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Do you tell someone their dog died while they’re on holiday? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
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  Speaker 3: Anele and the club on 947.
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  Speaker 4: If you just joined us, good morning. Just in time
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  Speaker 4: to hear me complain. And you know what? This will
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  Speaker 4: make me sound a little bit ungrateful. Please bear with me.
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  Speaker 4: I have so many lanyards in my house.
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  Speaker 1: From all the events.
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  Speaker 3: Please describe a lanyard to somebody who doesn't know what
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  Speaker 3: a lanyard is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a little piece of string. It's usually got
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  Speaker 1: a writing on it, some kind of ribbon, right? And
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  Speaker 1: then at the bottom, there's some kind of tag. That
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  Speaker 1: says what access you have at the event.
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  Speaker 3: Media, all access, backstage, crew, cast, all of that.
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  Speaker 5: I have two great ones, though. Which one? I've got
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  Speaker 5: a lot of lanyards, yeah. Went to the opening of
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  Speaker 5: the Wits Sports Complex. They had a viewing in July
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  Speaker 5: and they had a blue, because Wits is blue and white,
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  Speaker 5: like beaded... It was beautiful in a style. And then recently,
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  Speaker 5: when I worked at the F & B Stadium for
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  Speaker 5: the rugby, for the greatest rivalry, also orange and white,
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  Speaker 5: thick beaded lanyard.
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  Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: And then I said, what am I supposed to do
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  Speaker 5: with all these lanyards?
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  Speaker 3: This is the conversation, Cindy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm asking you this morning, what do you have a
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  Speaker 4: lot of in your house?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan's just bursting, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry to interrupt. I know we're doing this topic, but
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  Speaker 2: Tabile sent us a voice note.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's quite time sensitive.
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  Speaker 3: But I haven't told you what the conversation is.
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  Speaker 1: Is it about this?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: Time sensitive?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: I think rather just listen to it and then... Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Like the voice note just came in now?
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I've literally just received it and she needs a bit
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  Speaker 3: of help.
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  Speaker 5: Fine.
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  Speaker 8: Hi, Anneli in the club. I'm sorry to start Monday
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  Speaker 8: morning like this, but... I need your help. So I'm
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  Speaker 8: looking after a family's pet, right? So they're on holiday
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  Speaker 8: and their dog is about 17 years old and quite sickly.
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  Speaker 9: And I just woke up and she has passed away.
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  Speaker 8: So do I tell them that Lucy's gone or should
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  Speaker 8: I wait for them to come back from their holiday
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  Speaker 8: before I tell them?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like this might spoil their holiday.
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  Speaker 5: No, man.
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  Speaker 3: This is why it's time sensitive. This is why.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan, you've just triggered everyone in their cars, firstly, that
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  Speaker 1: have lost pets.
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  Speaker 2: Can't we just go back to lanyards?
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say, so lanyards.
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  Speaker 4: So, when I was at the Springbok game.
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  Speaker 1: So, she's saying the family's currently on holiday.
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  Speaker 3: So, she's like pet sitting, obviously.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The dog, Lucy, has died. She's dead again. I wasn't concentrating.
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  Speaker 8: Hi, I'm Ellie in the club. I'm sorry to start
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  Speaker 8: Monday morning like this, but I need your help. So
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  Speaker 8: I'm looking after a family's pet, right? So they're on
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  Speaker 8: holiday and their dog is about 17 years old and
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  Speaker 8: quite sickly. And I just woke up and she has
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  Speaker 8: passed away. So do I tell them that Lucy's gone
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  Speaker 8: or should I wait for them to come back from
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  Speaker 8: their holiday before I tell them?
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, man. I feel like this might spoil
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  Speaker 9: their holiday.
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  Speaker 4: I think I would call and assess with the couple
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  Speaker 4: who the stronger one is. Or who's the least attached
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  Speaker 4: one to the dog? Because you can always see it,
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  Speaker 4: especially if you're always looking after the dog.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You can always see there's.
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  Speaker 4: One that's going to stay with the dog and kiss
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  Speaker 4: them a thousand times before they leave. There's one that's
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  Speaker 4: already in the car. The one that got into the
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  Speaker 4: car first, that's the one you should call so that
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  Speaker 4: they can prepare the other one. But you definitely have
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  Speaker 4: to tell them now. You can't wait for them to
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  Speaker 4: get back from holiday. You have to tell them now.
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  Speaker 4: Because you need to give them the choice of whether
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  Speaker 4: or not they're going to carry on being on holiday
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  Speaker 4: or come back.
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  Speaker 3: To be here.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't say how long was left on the holiday, right?
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  Speaker 2: No, she didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's also in a state, as you can hear.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's better to tell them before because they
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  Speaker 5: have a level of expectation that when they get home,
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  Speaker 5: Lucy's going to be there. And I don't think there's one,
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe there's anybody in the family who maybe
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  Speaker 5: likes the dog or less because I know in our house,
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  Speaker 5: it's all equal. So I'm trying to think if I
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  Speaker 5: was in this situation, it was my family, we were
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  Speaker 5: on holiday.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I think you need to just phone them and break
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  Speaker 5: it to them very gently.
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  Speaker 3: But who would I call? Do I speak to you?
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  Speaker 3: Do I speak to Mark? Do I speak to the girls?
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  Speaker 5: You speak to whoever you've been dealing with who's set
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  Speaker 5: you up to house it. Because generally you're dealing with
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  Speaker 5: one person. You're not dealing with both people. And then
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  Speaker 5: you just break it gently because then... At least, I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to think, like, if my kids were away on holiday,
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  Speaker 5: they would be absolutely devastated. But one of the big
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  Speaker 5: things we always talk about when we go on holiday
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  Speaker 5: is coming home to see Eddie and Pepper. Like, we
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  Speaker 5: miss them so much.
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  Speaker 3: We can't, like, we wait for the reaction.
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  Speaker 5: As we're about to drive into the driveway, we put
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  Speaker 5: on the cameras so we can see them jump in.
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  Speaker 3: Or, you know, if a friend's bringing them, he'll bring them. Like, it's, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you should phone them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is terrible there. I don't think you have
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  Speaker 1: an option but to phone them. The question is, when
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  Speaker 1: do you phone them?
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  Speaker 3: Immediately.
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  Speaker 10: Today.
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  Speaker 11: Immediately.
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  Speaker 9: Today.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you have to tell them.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's all about, it comes down to the
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  Speaker 2: timing because at the end of the day, if they're
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  Speaker 2: away for a week... They would like to, maybe they'd
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  Speaker 2: like to say goodbye to Lucy.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Or decide what happens now.
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  Speaker 4: Give them the choice to decide whether the holiday continues
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  Speaker 4: or not. Because when you, when they leave you with
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  Speaker 4: their pet, they say, if anything happens, call us on
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  Speaker 4: this number.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know.
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  Speaker 3: This is it.
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  Speaker 4: This is the anything that has happened. You can't make
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  Speaker 4: the call to not want to interrupt their holiday.
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  Speaker 3: Call them. Unless they've told you. It doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 3: it is. Don't call us. Then don't call them. But
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  Speaker 3: this is their pet.
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  Speaker 1: No, you've got to call them.
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  Speaker 3: I'd call them immediately.
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  Speaker 5: Also, the person you call to tell will decide if
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  Speaker 5: they want to.
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  Speaker 3: Tell the family or not.
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  Speaker 5: They might say, actually, tomorrow's a better day. So you're
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  Speaker 5: just phoning to inform the person. Because otherwise, if you don't,
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  Speaker 5: and then what if you should have told us straight away?
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  Speaker 2: It's tricky.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to know where the family's on holiday. Because
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're overseas. So it's not as easy as getting
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  Speaker 1: on a plane to come back.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it is, guys. But that choice has to
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  Speaker 3: be theirs.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: They will decide the level of difficulty on coming back.
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  Speaker 4: But to Frankie's point, so what do you do now?
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  Speaker 4: Do you bury Lucy? It's a whole other thing. You
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  Speaker 4: see what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: For example, if you're in New York, how quickly can
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  Speaker 2: you get on a flight and how quickly can you
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  Speaker 2: get home? And what does she do in the interim?
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  Speaker 12: Oh, 1-1-88-38-9-4-7.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What's the name?
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  Speaker 1: This is your worst nightmare if you're a pet sitter.
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  Speaker 1: This is your worst nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: I think Ryan said Tabile. Tabile, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Tabile sent us a voice note. We're going to play
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  Speaker 4: it again for you in case you've just tuned in.
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  Speaker 4: And then she's pretty much asking, we are in the moment, hey?
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  Speaker 3: This is not a voice note that was sent yesterday
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  Speaker 3: or Friday.
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  Speaker 4: This has just, just, just happened. We're currently in this moment.
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  Speaker 4: And she just wants to know, like, you know, how
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  Speaker 4: should she be proceeding? How would you like the person
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  Speaker 4: who's looking after your pet to do in this moment
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  Speaker 4: if you were on holiday?
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  Speaker 3: You're sending us a voice note.
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  Speaker 8: 084-00-00-947. Hi, Anneli in the club. I'm sorry to start
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  Speaker 8: Monday morning like this, but... I need your help. So
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  Speaker 8: I'm looking after a family's pet, right? So they're on
• 7:29
  Speaker 8: holiday and their dog is about 17 years old and
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  Speaker 8: quite sickly.
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  Speaker 9: And I just woke up and she has passed away.
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  Speaker 8: So do I tell them that Lucy's gone or should
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  Speaker 8: I wait for them to come back from their holiday
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  Speaker 8: before I tell them?
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like this might spoil their holiday. Hi, Anneli
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  Speaker 8: in the club. I'm sorry to start Monday morning like this,
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  Speaker 8: but I need your help. So I'm looking after a
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  Speaker 8: family's pet, right? So they're on holiday and their dog
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  Speaker 8: is about 17 years old and quite sickly. And I
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  Speaker 8: just woke up and she has passed away. So do
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  Speaker 8: I tell them that Lucy's gone or should I wait
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  Speaker 8: for them to come back from their holiday before I
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  Speaker 8: tell them? I don't know man, I feel like this
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  Speaker 8: may spoil their holiday.
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  Speaker 4: I think they should tell them on the last day
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  Speaker 4: because they shouldn't wait for disasters.
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  Speaker 12: Absolutely you have to tell them that is a family
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  Speaker 12: member and it's important for them to know.
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  Speaker 13: Phone those people, I'm a big pet lover and if
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  Speaker 13: something happened to one of my pets I would want
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  Speaker 13: to know immediately. Because maybe they want to have the
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  Speaker 13: pet cremated.
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  Speaker 9: Just call them. You need to tell them. You can't
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  Speaker 9: hide this away from them.
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  Speaker 3: This is simple.
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  Speaker 13: They must just do what Mr. Bin did when he
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  Speaker 13: was pet sitting. He waited until the owner came back,
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  Speaker 13: made the pet pose as if they were alive, and
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  Speaker 13: they thought that dog was fine until they found out
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  Speaker 13: the hard way.
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  Speaker 5: There's always one of you no we're not doing Mr Bean.
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  Speaker 1: No no it's not a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for that though man the little spanner in
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  Speaker 4: the works do you know what I was thinking as
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  Speaker 4: I'm listening to the voice notes in the ideal world
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  Speaker 4: people with pets would go on holiday with their pets
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  Speaker 4: it's just that logistically it's a nightmare yeah it's tough
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  Speaker 4: sometimes it's tough sometimes the car the flights and all
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  Speaker 4: of that stuff but the one person said that pet
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  Speaker 4: is a family member so you need to tell them
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  Speaker 4: Dalton you and Alberton what do you think.
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  Speaker 6: Hi Nella and team, how are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 3: We are great, Dalton. How are you?
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  Speaker 11: I believe the pet is not just a pet, it's
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  Speaker 11: part of the family. I mean, when we book holidays,
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  Speaker 11: we try and find accommodation for our pets as well.
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  Speaker 11: In certain places we go, we can't take our pets
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  Speaker 11: with us. But she needs to phone the family immediately
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  Speaker 11: and let them know. this is what happened. You can't
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  Speaker 11: wait to go there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what she's... I think she just doesn't
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  Speaker 4: want to, you know, ruin their holiday.
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  Speaker 3: But the bad news is going to ruin something sooner
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  Speaker 3: or later. Do you know what I'm saying? If you
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  Speaker 3: don't tell them.
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  Speaker 6: It's either going to damage... Yeah, sorry.
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  Speaker 3: No, go for it.
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  Speaker 6: It's either going to damage the friendship. Because you need phone.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, imagine somebody in your family pass away. And
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  Speaker 6: you don't tell them while you're on holiday. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 6: the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Because the news is going to get to them either way, right?
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  Speaker 4: So whatever it is that you're wanting to ruin, something
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  Speaker 4: is going to get ruined. So rather now, so that
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  Speaker 4: they can come home having prepared themselves. No, 100%.
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  Speaker 11: They need to.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have pets, Dalton?
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  Speaker 11: I have a pet pool. That's my passenger princess.
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  Speaker 3: What's her name?
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  Speaker 6: Brownie.
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  Speaker 3: Brownie.
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  Speaker 4: And if anything happened to Brownie, you'd want to be
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  Speaker 4: told immediately.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you're in Thailand, China, or New York.
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  Speaker 11: Anyway, I'll cut my holiday slot for her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there we go.
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  Speaker 3: You see.
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  Speaker 2: But I also get, I understand where, is it Tabile?
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  Speaker 1: Tabile.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming from, because someone's pet dying on your watch.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Even if this was an old dog, you also do feel.
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  Speaker 3: Some type of way.
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  Speaker 2: A bit of guilt, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, responsible.
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  Speaker 2: Because, you know, I was looking, I was taking care
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  Speaker 2: of all your possessions and your pet. And now, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. But to have to be the
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  Speaker 2: one to say, look, while you were away and I
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  Speaker 2: was here taking care of everything for you. your dog died,
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  Speaker 2: it's quite a heavy thing to carry.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe a little bit of consolation there that the
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  Speaker 1: dog was old and sickly. So obviously the owners know that.
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  Speaker 4: They're also anticipating something. Kim, you're in the East Rand.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, Anelia and the club. So my dog actually
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  Speaker 10: passed away two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we're so sorry.
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  Speaker 10: And thankfully, oh, thank you. Thankfully, I was home. And
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  Speaker 10: it was the hardest thing because they are part of
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  Speaker 10: your everyday life. And my dog was 15 years old.
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  Speaker 10: So I think the best thing is to phone the family,
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  Speaker 10: let them know. They're going to be hurt regardless whether
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  Speaker 10: she was sick or not sick, you know. You have
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  Speaker 10: to let them know and let them decide what they
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  Speaker 10: want to do.
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  Speaker 12: Because maybe they do want to cremate.
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  Speaker 10: Her and then you have to organize with the vet
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  Speaker 10: to maybe come and collect the dog. And it's quite
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  Speaker 10: a thing, but... You have to be kind and just
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  Speaker 10: do the best you can. The holiday doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: There'll always be another holiday. You're right. There'll always be
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  Speaker 3: another holiday.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, the feelings come first, you know. And I've also,
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  Speaker 10: when I was younger, my cat passed away when I
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  Speaker 10: was on a cruise. And my mom didn't want to
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  Speaker 10: tell me. And I got back from the cruise and
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  Speaker 10: I was devastated.
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  Speaker 3: So the thing is, tell them as soon as possible.
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  Speaker 3: I was devastated.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, because they did know she was sick and she
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  Speaker 10: can just say, look, she passed away peacefully in the night.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I woke up and she was gone.
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  Speaker 4: And also the family may not have communicated this with
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  Speaker 4: Otabilia because, you know, you're the pet sitter. But they
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  Speaker 4: do have systems and processes in place of things that
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  Speaker 4: should happen at the back.
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  Speaker 3: Of their minds. around what happens on that day.
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  Speaker 4: They might not have voiced it to you, but to them,
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  Speaker 4: they know exactly what they would want to do on.
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  Speaker 3: That day or who must.
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  Speaker 4: Be called, an uncle, an aunt, somebody who takes the
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  Speaker 4: dog somewhere, somehow. So you need to give them information
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  Speaker 4: so that they can make the decisions. But they can't
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  Speaker 4: make any decisions if the information is being kept from them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to tell them.
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  Speaker 9: It's so tough.
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  Speaker 3: It's so tough.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Because they'll want to call, be like, okay, can you
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  Speaker 3: put us on a video call with Lucy?
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: 011-8838-947, has this ever happened to you?
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  Speaker 9: Hi, I'm Ellie in the club.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sorry to start Monday morning like this, but I
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  Speaker 8: need your help. So I'm looking after a family's pet, right?
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  Speaker 8: So they're on holiday and their dog is about 17
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  Speaker 8: years old and quite sickly.
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  Speaker 9: And I just woke up and she has passed away.
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  Speaker 8: So do I tell them that Lucy's gone or should
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  Speaker 8: I wait for them to come back from their holiday
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  Speaker 8: before I tell them?
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like this might spoil their holiday.
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  Speaker 2: What if the owners of the dog knew that any
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  Speaker 2: time is sea time and they just didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: be around to witness their dog dying?
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  Speaker 9: I've got five dogs. And if anything happened to any.
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  Speaker 8: Of my dolls while I was on holiday, I definitely
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  Speaker 8: would want to know.
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  Speaker 14: Maybe these people just left Saturday, you know, and today
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  Speaker 14: it's Monday. Like, I'm trying to say, maybe the holidays
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  Speaker 14: just started.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, you know, and now.
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  Speaker 14: She's thinking that, ah, if I tell them this now,
• 14:44
  Speaker 14: and they had just, maybe they're still even in transit
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  Speaker 14: to get to wherever they're going.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe she's thinking of all of that shame.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think the decision should be theirs to make,
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  Speaker 4: whether they want to stick it out on their holiday
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  Speaker 4: that they've just arrived on or to come back to
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: be with their Lucy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely understand why Tamila is asking this question,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously that's what she's thinking. But it's their choice.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to give them the choice to decide whether
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: they're coming back or they're staying.
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  Speaker 4: But for Tabile, babe, because you are listening, because you
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  Speaker 4: want to know what to do. This is absolute consideration
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  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very, very good.
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  Speaker 4: You are an in-tune human being because you're just now
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: weighing up all the options. But I think most of
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: the votes here today going towards you, just pick up
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the phone and give them a ring.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Michelle, you and Glenn Hazel, what do you think? Morning, morning.
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  Speaker 12: I'm Aimee in the club. Morning. So we were recently
• 15:39
  Speaker 12: in a similar situation where we were overseas and we
• 15:45
  Speaker 12: received a call from my daughter to say that my 17,
• 15:49
  Speaker 12: also 17-year-old dog was not doing well at all and
• 15:54
  Speaker 12: she had taken the dog to the vet and the
• 15:58
  Speaker 12: vet had said that she felt that she needed to
• 16:00
  Speaker 12: put the dog down.
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  Speaker 8: Oh.
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  Speaker 12: And we were walking around this most beautiful palace in
• 16:08
  Speaker 12: Seville and I walked away from my husband and I
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  Speaker 12: took the call and it was very heart-wrenching to make
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  Speaker 12: that decision when you're across the other side of the world.
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  Speaker 12: She was our baby and, you know, they're like your
• 16:22
  Speaker 12: children and.
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  Speaker 3: Very, very hard.
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  Speaker 12: Decision to make. But I think that when you know
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  Speaker 12: your dog's 17, somewhere in your heart you know that
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  Speaker 12: it's the end of their life.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 12: And I had to make the decision what was best
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  Speaker 12: for my dog. And it was very hard. And I
• 16:51
  Speaker 12: think part of me phoning in today is also just like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 12: It just brings back all the feelings and all the memories. And,
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  Speaker 12: you know, for me, it was almost like part of
• 17:05
  Speaker 12: my grieving process was to phone in today. And absolutely,
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  Speaker 12: I mean, there was no way we could come back.
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  Speaker 12: But they need to know. And it needs to be
• 17:16
  Speaker 12: their choice. And like other callers have said, their decisions
• 17:20
  Speaker 12: to make about what to do with the body and...
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  Speaker 12: You know, and I really think that people need to,
• 17:27
  Speaker 12: that they need to know. And the fact that she's
• 17:29
  Speaker 12: phoned in, I think it's fabulous that she's, you know,
• 17:33
  Speaker 12: considering that.
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  Speaker 4: When you walked away from your husband, did you make
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the call without your husband or did you turn around
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  Speaker 4: and say to your husband, hey, this is what's happening.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I'm thinking.
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  Speaker 12: I did tell him what was happening. He's extremely emotional
• 17:49
  Speaker 12: and was absolutely, totally attached to this. We called her out, Pappy,
• 17:56
  Speaker 12: even though she was an old, little old lady. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 12: I did make the decision without him because I knew
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  Speaker 12: that it would just be far too hard for him
• 18:05
  Speaker 12: to make that decision.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what?
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  Speaker 4: When you know your husband and you know your dog
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: and you know the situation, you, you, you. This is
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: what I was saying is that Tabile must figure out.
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  Speaker 3: Between the two, between the couple.
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  Speaker 1: Which one to phone.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like now, Michelle, she got the call. Because
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: even the vet knows, the husband... He's not the one
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to make this.
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  Speaker 4: In a couple, there's always the one that makes the,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the tough decisions.
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  Speaker 3: The ones where you.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Have to remove all emotion and you have to become practical.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: That's the one you call. Shirley, you are in mid-rand.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Wrap it up for us, madam.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, Annalyn the club.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Shirley.
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  Speaker 6: Come on, Shirley.
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  Speaker 7: First time on 947. Bow, bow, bow, bow. Bow, bow, bow, bow.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Thank you very much. First of all, if it's any
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: consolation to Tabby, the dog was already sick and the
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: family knew about it. So the best thing is for
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: her to let them know because it's not like she's
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: going to keep it in the fridge or the deep freezer.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: They need to know so that a decision can be made.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: So you would definitely say she must just call them immediately?
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: She must just call them immediately. I know people get
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: attached to their pets. My mom once came to... to
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: tell me that our cat has died like 80 kilometers.
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  Speaker 10: And I was called from.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: Class and like, your mother is outside. I was in class.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: in session and then I went outside and then she
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: burst into tears. So I know how important that is,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: but they need to know.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: There we go.
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  Speaker 4: Tabile, the city is, there is not a single person
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  Speaker 4: who has said, do not call them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way, there's no way you can't let
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: them know.
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  Speaker 4: The only person who was even close to saying don't
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: call them was the one who was like, but maybe
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: they just landed on holiday. So maybe that's the room
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that Tabile wants to give them. But everybody else, thousands
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: of calls, thousands of WhatsApp.
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  Speaker 3: Tabile, it's a tough thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: But this is something you take on when you say,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I will look after your house.
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  Speaker 3: I will look after your pet.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Assess between the two in the couple, who's the one
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: who will receive the news the easiest and be able
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: to tell the other one.
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  Speaker 3: But immediately, right now, call them.
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  Speaker 12: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Back to making your morning.
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  Speaker 1: And Nelly and the club.
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  Speaker 9: I love this show. On 947.