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From Dance Class to Storytelling: The Evolution of Sunny Steps · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 3:23
  Alison
• 3:23
  Thompson,
• 3:24
  Sunny
• 3:24
  Steps
• 3:25
  Loves
• 3:25
  to
• 3:25
  Dance.
• 3:27
  Thanks,
• 3:27
  Allie
• 3:28
  or
• 3:28
  Alison.
• 3:29
  The
• 3:29
  listening
• 3:30
  audience
• 3:30
  is
• 3:31
  wondering
• 3:31
  why
• 3:31
  I'm
• 3:31
  going
• 3:32
  back.
• 3:32
  There
• 3:32
  isn't
• 3:33
  two
• 3:33
  people
• 3:33
  and
• 3:34
  Allie
• 3:34
  doesn't
• 3:35
  have
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  split
• 3:35
  personality.
• 3:37
  She
• 3:37
  goes
• 3:37
  between
• 3:37
  Allison
• 3:38
  and
• 3:38
  Allie.
• 3:39
  So
• 3:39
  we're
• 3:39
  going
• 3:39
  to
• 3:39
  have
• 3:39
  some
• 3:40
  fun
• 3:40
  with
• 3:40
  that.
• 3:41
  And
• 3:41
  thanks
• 3:41
  for
• 3:42
  appearing
• 3:42
  on
• 3:42
  the
• 3:43
  Adventures
• 3:43
  in
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  Heart
• 3:44
  of
• 3:45
  Children's
• 3:45
  Book
• 3:45
  Authors
• 3:46
  podcast.
• 3:47
  Thanks
• 3:47
  for
• 3:48
  having
• 3:48
  me.
• 3:48
  Oh,
• 3:49
  my
• 3:49
  pleasure.
• 3:49
  Allie
• 3:50
  has
• 3:50
  written
• 3:51
  a
• 3:51
  children's
• 3:51
  book.
• 3:52
  As
• 3:52
  you
• 3:52
  heard,
• 3:53
  Sunny
• 3:54
  Steps
• 3:54
  loves
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  dance.
• 3:55
  And
• 3:56
  for
• 3:56
  me
• 3:57
  it
• 3:57
  has
• 3:57
  a
• 3:58
  couple
• 3:58
  of
• 3:58
  unique
• 3:58
  twists.
• 3:59
  And
• 4:00
  I'm
• 4:00
  not
• 4:00
  just
• 4:01
  talking
• 4:01
  about
• 4:01
  dance.
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  really
• 4:03
  look
• 4:03
  forward
• 4:03
  to
• 4:03
  this
• 4:03
  conversation.
• 4:04
  Alison,
• 4:06
  before
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  we
• 4:07
  get
• 4:07
  into
• 4:07
  the
• 4:07
  details
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  your
• 4:08
  book
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  your
• 4:11
  children's
• 4:11
  book
• 4:11
  authorship,
• 4:12
  can
• 4:13
  you
• 4:13
  tell
• 4:13
  us
• 4:13
  what
• 4:14
  being
• 4:14
  a
• 4:14
  children's
• 4:15
  book
• 4:15
  author
• 4:16
  means
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  you?
• 4:19
  For
• 4:19
  me,
• 4:20
  it's
• 4:20
  taking
• 4:21
  my
• 4:21
  sort
• 4:21
  of
• 4:22
  creative
• 4:22
  spirit,
• 4:22
  if
• 4:22
  you
• 4:23
  like,
• 4:23
  to
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  whole
• 4:23
  new
• 4:24
  direction.
• 4:24
  I
• 4:25
  have
• 4:25
  been
• 4:25
  a
• 4:26
  dancer
• 4:26
  all
• 4:26
  my
• 4:27
  life.
• 4:27
  I
• 4:27
  have
• 4:28
  then
• 4:28
  gone
• 4:28
  into
• 4:28
  teaching
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  choreography
• 4:30
  and
• 4:31
  this
• 4:31
  was
• 4:31
  just
• 4:31
  another
• 4:32
  sort
• 4:32
  of
• 4:32
  string
• 4:33
  to
• 4:33
  my
• 4:33
  bow,
• 4:33
  if
• 4:34
  you
• 4:34
  like.
• 4:34
  So
• 4:34
  it
• 4:34
  just
• 4:35
  took
• 4:35
  me
• 4:35
  off
• 4:36
  into
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  new
• 4:36
  direction.
• 4:37
  I'm
• 4:37
  still
• 4:37
  being
• 4:38
  creative.
• 4:38
  It's
• 4:38
  still
• 4:38
  ticking
• 4:39
  all
• 4:39
  those
• 4:39
  boxes
• 4:40
  for
• 4:40
  me.
• 4:40
  And
• 4:41
  it's
• 4:41
  about
• 4:41
  expressing
• 4:42
  dance,
• 4:42
  but
• 4:42
  now
• 4:43
  in
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  different
• 4:43
  form,
• 4:43
  but
• 4:44
  through
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  the
• 4:45
  story
• 4:45
  of
• 4:45
  Sonny
• 4:45
  Steps
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  his
• 4:46
  daddy.
• 4:47
  So
• 4:47
  it
• 4:47
  just
• 4:47
  leads
• 4:48
  me
• 4:48
  into
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  whole
• 4:49
  new
• 4:49
  area.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:50
  I'm
• 4:50
  very
• 4:50
  new
• 4:51
  at
• 4:51
  this.
• 4:51
  I'm
• 4:51
  very
• 4:52
  this
• 4:52
  is
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  first
• 4:52
  time
• 4:52
  author
• 4:53
  moment
• 4:53
  for
• 4:53
  me,
• 4:54
  but
• 4:54
  it's
• 4:54
  really
• 4:55
  exciting.
• 4:56
  Fantastic.
• 4:57
  Tell
• 4:57
  us
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  little
• 4:58
  bit
• 4:58
  about
• 4:59
  the
• 5:00
  inspiration
• 5:01
  and
• 5:01
  the
• 5:02
  origin
• 5:02
  story
• 5:03
  about
• 5:04
  Sunny
• 5:04
  Steps
• 5:04
  Loves
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  Dance.
• 5:05
  What
• 5:05
  was
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  inspiration
• 5:06
  behind
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  book
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  how
• 5:08
  did
• 5:08
  it
• 5:08
  all
• 5:08
  get
• 5:08
  started
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  why?
• 5:11
  So
• 5:11
  it
• 5:11
  came
• 5:12
  about
• 5:12
  during
• 5:13
  lockdown
• 5:14
  when
• 5:14
  we
• 5:14
  were
• 5:14
  all
• 5:15
  shut
• 5:15
  up
• 5:15
  at
• 5:15
  home
• 5:16
  and
• 5:17
  not
• 5:17
  really
• 5:17
  being
• 5:18
  able
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  do
• 5:18
  a
• 5:19
  lot.
• 5:19
  As
• 5:19
  I
• 5:20
  said
• 5:20
  before,
• 5:20
  I've
• 5:21
  danced
• 5:21
  all
• 5:22
  my
• 5:22
  life
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  I
• 5:22
  have
• 5:23
  taught.
• 5:23
  And
• 5:24
  over
• 5:24
  20
• 5:24
  years
• 5:25
  ago
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  started
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  dance
• 5:26
  class
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  called
• 5:27
  it
• 5:27
  Sunny
• 5:28
  Steps
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  it
• 5:29
  was
• 5:29
  for
• 5:29
  two
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  four
• 5:29
  year
• 5:30
  olds.
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  still
• 5:31
  run
• 5:31
  it
• 5:31
  now.
• 5:32
  It's
• 5:32
  a
• 5:32
  creative
• 5:32
  dance
• 5:33
  and
• 5:33
  movement
• 5:33
  class
• 5:33
  where
• 5:34
  we
• 5:34
  go
• 5:34
  on
• 5:34
  different
• 5:34
  adventures
• 5:35
  each
• 5:35
  week
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  we
• 5:36
  do
• 5:36
  different
• 5:36
  types
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  movement
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  dance.
• 5:38
  But
• 5:38
  if
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  take
• 5:39
  it
• 5:39
  back
• 5:39
  even
• 5:40
  further,
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  started
• 5:41
  doing
• 5:41
  it
• 5:41
  with
• 5:41
  my
• 5:42
  own
• 5:42
  children
• 5:42
  in
• 5:43
  our
• 5:43
  playroom,
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  way
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  would
• 5:45
  play
• 5:45
  with
• 5:45
  them.
• 5:45
  We
• 5:46
  would
• 5:46
  read
• 5:46
  books,
• 5:47
  we
• 5:47
  would
• 5:47
  play,
• 5:47
  but
• 5:47
  we'd
• 5:48
  also
• 5:48
  go
• 5:48
  on
• 5:48
  adventures
• 5:49
  through
• 5:49
  movement
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  pretend
• 5:50
  we
• 5:51
  were
• 5:51
  tigers
• 5:51
  or
• 5:52
  elephants
• 5:52
  or
• 5:53
  flying
• 5:53
  around
• 5:54
  the
• 5:54
  kitchen
• 5:55
  or
• 5:55
  holding
• 5:55
  onto
• 5:55
  a
• 5:55
  kite
• 5:56
  and
• 5:56
  pretending
• 5:56
  that
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  wind
• 5:57
  was
• 5:57
  blowing,
• 5:58
  doing
• 5:58
  all
• 5:58
  these
• 5:59
  kind
• 5:59
  of
• 5:59
  things.
• 5:59
  And
• 6:00
  it
• 6:00
  was
• 6:00
  then
• 6:00
  that
• 6:00
  some
• 6:01
  friends
• 6:01
  of
• 6:01
  mine
• 6:01
  said,
• 6:02
  well,
• 6:02
  we
• 6:02
  don't
• 6:03
  play
• 6:03
  with
• 6:03
  our
• 6:03
  Kids
• 6:03
  like
• 6:04
  that.
• 6:05
  Will
• 6:05
  you
• 6:05
  do
• 6:05
  a
• 6:05
  class?
• 6:06
  So
• 6:06
  I
• 6:06
  put
• 6:07
  a
• 6:07
  few
• 6:07
  ideas
• 6:07
  together,
• 6:08
  and
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  suddenly
• 6:08
  realized
• 6:08
  I
• 6:09
  had
• 6:09
  about
• 6:09
  two
• 6:10
  pages
• 6:10
  worth
• 6:10
  of
• 6:11
  ideas
• 6:11
  that
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  could
• 6:12
  put
• 6:12
  into
• 6:12
  a
• 6:12
  class.
• 6:13
  So
• 6:14
  Sunny
• 6:14
  Steps,
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  class
• 6:15
  was
• 6:16
  born,
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  it
• 6:17
  was
• 6:17
  just
• 6:17
  my
• 6:17
  friends
• 6:18
  who
• 6:18
  would
• 6:18
  come,
• 6:19
  so
• 6:19
  it
• 6:19
  didn't
• 6:19
  really
• 6:19
  feel
• 6:20
  like
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  real
• 6:20
  class.
• 6:20
  And
• 6:21
  then
• 6:21
  suddenly
• 6:21
  real
• 6:21
  customers
• 6:22
  came
• 6:22
  in,
• 6:22
  and
• 6:22
  it
• 6:22
  was
• 6:23
  suddenly
• 6:23
  like,
• 6:23
  oh,
• 6:24
  goodness,
• 6:24
  this
• 6:24
  is
• 6:24
  a
• 6:24
  real
• 6:24
  thing.
• 6:25
  But
• 6:25
  I
• 6:25
  continued
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  play
• 6:26
  with
• 6:26
  my
• 6:26
  children
• 6:27
  in
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  same
• 6:27
  way,
• 6:28
  and
• 6:29
  as
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  say,
• 6:30
  in
• 6:30
  lockdown,
• 6:31
  when
• 6:31
  everything
• 6:31
  stopped
• 6:32
  and
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  tried
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  do
• 6:33
  my
• 6:33
  classes
• 6:34
  over
• 6:34
  Zoom,
• 6:35
  which
• 6:35
  was
• 6:35
  quite
• 6:36
  hilarious,
• 6:36
  really,
• 6:36
  because
• 6:37
  obviously
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  couldn't
• 6:38
  be
• 6:38
  with
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  children,
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  could
• 6:40
  see
• 6:40
  them
• 6:40
  in
• 6:40
  their
• 6:40
  living
• 6:40
  rooms
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  children
• 6:41
  would
• 6:41
  be
• 6:41
  jumping
• 6:42
  off
• 6:42
  sofas,
• 6:42
  and
• 6:43
  I'd
• 6:43
  be
• 6:43
  thinking,
• 6:43
  is
• 6:43
  Mummy
• 6:44
  there?
• 6:44
  She
• 6:44
  there?
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  don't
• 6:45
  want
• 6:45
  to.
• 6:48
  Yeah,
• 6:48
  it
• 6:48
  was
• 6:48
  a
• 6:48
  really
• 6:49
  interesting
• 6:49
  time,
• 6:50
  but
• 6:50
  it
• 6:50
  really
• 6:51
  still,
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  think
• 6:51
  it
• 6:52
  just
• 6:52
  brought
• 6:52
  us
• 6:52
  all
• 6:53
  together.
• 6:53
  Just
• 6:53
  doing
• 6:53
  anything
• 6:54
  on
• 6:54
  Zoom
• 6:54
  was
• 6:54
  just
• 6:55
  so
• 6:55
  lovely.
• 6:56
  And
• 6:56
  then
• 6:58
  I.
• 6:58
  I
• 6:58
  had
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  idea
• 6:59
  of
• 7:00
  doing
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  book
• 7:00
  and
• 7:01
  writing
• 7:01
  about
• 7:01
  it,
• 7:02
  and
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  went
• 7:02
  through
• 7:02
  lots
• 7:02
  of
• 7:03
  ideas
• 7:04
  of
• 7:05
  how
• 7:05
  Sunny
• 7:06
  Sets
• 7:06
  would
• 7:06
  be,
• 7:06
  whether
• 7:06
  it
• 7:06
  was
• 7:07
  children
• 7:07
  going
• 7:07
  to
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  class,
• 7:08
  whether
• 7:08
  it
• 7:08
  was
• 7:08
  animals,
• 7:09
  whether
• 7:09
  it
• 7:09
  was
• 7:10
  just
• 7:10
  something.
• 7:11
  And
• 7:11
  then
• 7:12
  my
• 7:12
  husband
• 7:12
  just
• 7:12
  said
• 7:12
  to
• 7:13
  me,
• 7:13
  why
• 7:13
  don't
• 7:14
  you
• 7:14
  make
• 7:14
  Sunny
• 7:14
  Steps
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  character?
• 7:16
  I
• 7:17
  literally
• 7:17
  had
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  whole
• 7:17
  light
• 7:18
  bulb
• 7:18
  moment.
• 7:18
  It
• 7:18
  was
• 7:19
  like,
• 7:19
  oh,
• 7:19
  my
• 7:19
  goodness,
• 7:20
  he's
• 7:20
  a
• 7:20
  little
• 7:20
  boy
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  he's
• 7:21
  going
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  be
• 7:22
  with
• 7:22
  his
• 7:22
  daddy.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  it
• 7:23
  took
• 7:23
  us,
• 7:24
  but
• 7:24
  it
• 7:24
  took
• 7:24
  me
• 7:24
  back
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  how
• 7:25
  I
• 7:26
  had
• 7:26
  started
• 7:26
  it
• 7:27
  with
• 7:27
  my
• 7:27
  children
• 7:27
  in
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  playroom.
• 7:28
  And
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  reason
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  made
• 7:29
  him
• 7:30
  a
• 7:30
  boy
• 7:30
  was
• 7:31
  because
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  just
• 7:31
  feel
• 7:32
  like
• 7:32
  even
• 7:32
  today,
• 7:32
  we
• 7:33
  need
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  break
• 7:33
  through
• 7:34
  those
• 7:34
  sort
• 7:34
  of
• 7:34
  gender
• 7:34
  barriers
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  bit
• 7:35
  and
• 7:36
  stop
• 7:36
  the
• 7:37
  kind
• 7:37
  of.
• 7:37
  Boys
• 7:38
  are
• 7:38
  tough
• 7:38
  and
• 7:38
  boys
• 7:39
  play
• 7:39
  football
• 7:39
  and
• 7:40
  boys
• 7:40
  do
• 7:40
  this,
• 7:40
  and
• 7:41
  boys
• 7:41
  can
• 7:41
  draw
• 7:42
  and
• 7:42
  boys
• 7:42
  can
• 7:42
  sing
• 7:42
  and
• 7:43
  boys
• 7:43
  can
• 7:43
  dance
• 7:43
  and
• 7:43
  boys
• 7:44
  can
• 7:44
  do
• 7:44
  all
• 7:44
  sorts
• 7:44
  of
• 7:45
  things,
• 7:45
  as
• 7:45
  can
• 7:45
  girls.
• 7:46
  But
• 7:46
  that's
• 7:47
  how
• 7:47
  it
• 7:47
  came
• 7:47
  to
• 7:48
  be.
• 7:49
  So
• 7:49
  suddenly.
• 7:50
  I
• 7:51
  have
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  book
• 7:51
  with
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  second
• 7:52
  one,
• 7:52
  hopefully
• 7:53
  next
• 7:53
  year.
• 7:54
  Terrific.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:55
  it's
• 7:55
  interesting
• 7:55
  because
• 7:56
  I'm
• 7:56
  always
• 7:56
  looking
• 7:57
  for
• 7:57
  a
• 7:57
  point
• 7:58
  of
• 7:58
  difference.
• 7:58
  It's
• 7:59
  sharing
• 7:59
  ideas
• 8:00
  with
• 8:01
  aspiring
• 8:02
  children's
• 8:02
  book
• 8:03
  authors
• 8:03
  also,
• 8:04
  and
• 8:05
  people
• 8:05
  thinking,
• 8:06
  how
• 8:06
  do
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  get
• 8:08
  outside
• 8:08
  the
• 8:09
  box
• 8:09
  or
• 8:09
  outside
• 8:09
  the
• 8:10
  book
• 8:10
  cover
• 8:10
  and
• 8:11
  do
• 8:11
  something
• 8:12
  different?
• 8:13
  And
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  thought,
• 8:14
  wow,
• 8:14
  this
• 8:15
  is
• 8:15
  incredible
• 8:15
  what
• 8:16
  you've
• 8:16
  done.
• 8:17
  And.
• 8:18
  Oh,
• 8:18
  you're
• 8:18
  welcome
• 8:19
  for
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  audience.
• 8:21
  Is
• 8:21
  that.
• 8:22
  Allison,
• 8:23
  of
• 8:23
  course,
• 8:23
  just
• 8:23
  told
• 8:24
  us
• 8:24
  her
• 8:24
  story
• 8:24
  about
• 8:24
  how
• 8:25
  she
• 8:25
  started
• 8:25
  her.
• 8:26
  It's
• 8:26
  called
• 8:27
  Sunny
• 8:27
  Steps,
• 8:28
  and
• 8:28
  it's
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  dance
• 8:28
  school
• 8:29
  for
• 8:29
  toddlers.
• 8:30
  You
• 8:30
  have
• 8:30
  a
• 8:30
  toddlers
• 8:31
  dance
• 8:31
  school
• 8:32
  business,
• 8:32
  and
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  love
• 8:33
  how
• 8:34
  you
• 8:34
  tied
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  name
• 8:35
  And
• 8:35
  I'll
• 8:36
  get.
• 8:36
  Give
• 8:36
  your
• 8:37
  husband
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  big
• 8:38
  hug
• 8:38
  for
• 8:39
  suggesting
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  because
• 8:40
  it's
• 8:40
  brilliant
• 8:41
  and
• 8:41
  maybe
• 8:41
  you
• 8:42
  should
• 8:42
  be
• 8:42
  in
• 8:42
  marketing.
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  have
• 8:45
  asked
• 8:45
  him
• 8:46
  several
• 8:46
  times
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  quit
• 8:47
  his
• 8:47
  job
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  just
• 8:47
  come
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  help
• 8:48
  me.
• 8:49
  That's
• 8:49
  such
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  great
• 8:50
  idea,
• 8:50
  tying
• 8:51
  it
• 8:51
  into
• 8:51
  your
• 8:51
  business's
• 8:52
  name.
• 8:53
  I'd
• 8:53
  like
• 8:53
  to
• 8:53
  delve
• 8:54
  into
• 8:54
  that
• 8:54
  just
• 8:54
  a
• 8:55
  bit
• 8:55
  more
• 8:55
  because
• 8:56
  this
• 8:56
  is.
• 8:57
  I've
• 8:57
  never
• 8:58
  run
• 8:58
  into
• 8:58
  someone
• 8:58
  who's
• 8:59
  actually
• 9:00
  taken
• 9:00
  this
• 9:01
  approach
• 9:01
  and
• 9:01
  I
• 9:02
  thought,
• 9:02
  wow,
• 9:02
  this
• 9:02
  is
• 9:03
  such
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  neat
• 9:03
  idea
• 9:04
  to
• 9:04
  share
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  then
• 9:06
  for
• 9:06
  other
• 9:06
  people
• 9:06
  to
• 9:07
  think
• 9:07
  about.
• 9:08
  So,
• 9:08
  based
• 9:08
  on
• 9:08
  your
• 9:09
  establishment
• 9:10
  business,
• 9:11
  how
• 9:11
  are
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  developing
• 9:13
  your
• 9:13
  children's
• 9:14
  book
• 9:14
  business?
• 9:17
  So
• 9:17
  it
• 9:18
  started,
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  think
• 9:19
  it
• 9:19
  felt
• 9:19
  very
• 9:19
  much
• 9:19
  hand
• 9:20
  in
• 9:20
  hand
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  start
• 9:20
  with.
• 9:21
  I
• 9:22
  felt
• 9:22
  like
• 9:22
  I
• 9:23
  couldn't
• 9:23
  have
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  book
• 9:24
  without
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  class.
• 9:25
  And
• 9:25
  it
• 9:25
  was.
• 9:26
  They
• 9:26
  were
• 9:26
  just
• 9:26
  tied
• 9:26
  together.
• 9:28
  But
• 9:28
  it's
• 9:29
  now
• 9:29
  been
• 9:29
  out
• 9:30
  just
• 9:30
  over
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  year
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  I
• 9:32
  realized
• 9:32
  that
• 9:32
  actually
• 9:32
  the
• 9:33
  book
• 9:33
  is
• 9:33
  standing
• 9:34
  on
• 9:34
  its
• 9:34
  own,
• 9:35
  which
• 9:35
  for
• 9:35
  me
• 9:35
  is
• 9:36
  what
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  wanted
• 9:36
  anyway,
• 9:37
  because
• 9:37
  at
• 9:37
  some
• 9:37
  point
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  will
• 9:38
  stop
• 9:39
  teaching
• 9:40
  or
• 9:40
  start
• 9:40
  doing
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  class.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  I
• 9:41
  wanted
• 9:42
  then
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  lean
• 9:42
  more
• 9:43
  into
• 9:43
  the
• 9:43
  book
• 9:43
  side
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  it.
• 9:44
  Okay.
• 9:45
  So
• 9:45
  it's
• 9:46
  quite
• 9:46
  nice
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  I've
• 9:46
  got
• 9:47
  that
• 9:47
  base.
• 9:48
  And
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  feel
• 9:48
  like
• 9:48
  it's
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  really
• 9:49
  strong
• 9:49
  base
• 9:50
  for
• 9:50
  the.
• 9:50
  For
• 9:51
  where
• 9:51
  the
• 9:51
  book
• 9:51
  has
• 9:51
  come
• 9:51
  from.
• 9:52
  It
• 9:52
  didn't
• 9:52
  just
• 9:52
  drop
• 9:52
  out
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  nowhere.
• 9:53
  It's
• 9:53
  actually
• 9:54
  formed
• 9:54
  from
• 9:55
  my
• 9:55
  own
• 9:55
  personal
• 9:56
  experience
• 9:56
  with
• 9:57
  my
• 9:57
  children
• 9:57
  and
• 9:58
  then
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  class
• 9:58
  and
• 9:59
  now
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  have
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  book.
• 10:00
  So
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  feel
• 10:00
  like
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  book
• 10:01
  is
• 10:02
  taking
• 10:02
  its
• 10:02
  own
• 10:03
  life,
• 10:03
  as
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  think
• 10:04
  any
• 10:04
  author
• 10:05
  would
• 10:05
  say.
• 10:05
  It's.
• 10:05
  It's
• 10:06
  an
• 10:06
  absolute
• 10:06
  huge
• 10:07
  learning
• 10:07
  curve
• 10:07
  for
• 10:07
  me.
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  naively
• 10:09
  thought,
• 10:09
  I've
• 10:09
  done
• 10:09
  a
• 10:10
  book
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  everyone
• 10:11
  likes
• 10:11
  it,
• 10:11
  and
• 10:12
  here
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  am,
• 10:12
  world.
• 10:14
  The
• 10:14
  sales.
• 10:15
  Absolutely.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  it
• 10:16
  was
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  bit
• 10:16
  like
• 10:16
  me
• 10:16
  sat
• 10:17
  there
• 10:17
  going,
• 10:18
  where
• 10:18
  are
• 10:18
  they?
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  don't
• 10:19
  know,
• 10:20
  realizing,
• 10:20
  oh,
• 10:21
  my
• 10:21
  goodness,
• 10:21
  you've
• 10:21
  got
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  hustle.
• 10:22
  You
• 10:22
  got
• 10:22
  to
• 10:22
  really
• 10:23
  network
• 10:23
  and
• 10:24
  talk
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  people
• 10:24
  and
• 10:25
  get
• 10:25
  on
• 10:25
  Instagram
• 10:26
  and.
• 10:27
  Which
• 10:27
  is,
• 10:28
  in
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  way,
• 10:28
  I'll
• 10:28
  admit,
• 10:29
  my
• 10:29
  biggest
• 10:29
  nightmare.
• 10:30
  I'm
• 10:30
  so
• 10:30
  not
• 10:30
  a
• 10:30
  social
• 10:31
  media
• 10:31
  person,
• 10:32
  so
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  has
• 10:32
  been
• 10:33
  really
• 10:33
  hard.
• 10:34
  Tell
• 10:34
  us
• 10:34
  a
• 10:35
  little
• 10:35
  about.
• 10:35
  Do
• 10:35
  you
• 10:36
  sell
• 10:36
  your
• 10:36
  book
• 10:37
  at
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  dance
• 10:37
  school?
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  do.
• 10:39
  If
• 10:39
  people.
• 10:40
  I'm
• 10:40
  a
• 10:41
  very
• 10:41
  sort
• 10:41
  of
• 10:41
  soft
• 10:41
  sell.
• 10:42
  I
• 10:42
  don't
• 10:42
  push
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  on
• 10:43
  them.
• 10:43
  It's
• 10:44
  very
• 10:44
  much.
• 10:44
  It's
• 10:44
  there
• 10:44
  if
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  want
• 10:45
  it.
• 10:46
  It's
• 10:46
  obviously
• 10:47
  on
• 10:47
  Amazon.
• 10:48
  It's
• 10:49
  online
• 10:49
  on
• 10:49
  a
• 10:49
  couple
• 10:50
  of
• 10:50
  bookstores
• 10:50
  here
• 10:50
  in
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  UK
• 10:51
  on
• 10:52
  Waterstones
• 10:52
  and
• 10:53
  Blackwells,
• 10:54
  and
• 10:54
  I've
• 10:54
  got
• 10:54
  a
• 10:55
  few
• 10:55
  sort
• 10:55
  of
• 10:55
  independent
• 10:56
  shops
• 10:57
  near
• 10:57
  where
• 10:57
  I
• 10:57
  live
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  are
• 10:58
  selling
• 10:59
  it
• 10:59
  really
• 10:59
  nicely.
• 10:59
  And
• 11:00
  I've
• 11:00
  done
• 11:00
  a
• 11:00
  few
• 11:00
  kind
• 11:00
  of
• 11:01
  Book
• 11:01
  fair
• 11:02
  type
• 11:02
  things
• 11:03
  where
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  meet
• 11:03
  and
• 11:04
  greet
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  everyone
• 11:04
  says,
• 11:04
  oh,
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  love
• 11:05
  your
• 11:05
  book,
• 11:05
  it's
• 11:06
  so
• 11:06
  nice.
• 11:06
  And
• 11:06
  then
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  go
• 11:07
  away
• 11:07
  having
• 11:07
  sold
• 11:07
  maybe
• 11:08
  three.
• 11:09
  It's
• 11:09
  an
• 11:10
  ongoing
• 11:10
  hard
• 11:11
  thing.
• 11:12
  So
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  think,
• 11:13
  like
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  said
• 11:13
  at
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  beginning,
• 11:14
  it's
• 11:14
  about
• 11:14
  getting
• 11:15
  people
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  know
• 11:16
  me,
• 11:17
  getting
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  know
• 11:17
  my
• 11:18
  book.
• 11:18
  Why
• 11:18
  would
• 11:18
  they
• 11:19
  pick
• 11:19
  my
• 11:19
  book
• 11:19
  on
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  shelf?
• 11:20
  What
• 11:20
  are
• 11:20
  they
• 11:21
  going
• 11:21
  to
• 11:21
  get
• 11:21
  for
• 11:21
  my
• 11:21
  book?
• 11:22
  As
• 11:22
  opposed
• 11:22
  to
• 11:23
  Y
• 11:23
  and
• 11:23
  Z?
• 11:23
  Said
• 11:24
  you
• 11:24
  sell
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  at
• 11:24
  some
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  your
• 11:25
  local
• 11:25
  bookstores,
• 11:26
  which
• 11:26
  is
• 11:26
  awesome.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:28
  we've
• 11:28
  been
• 11:29
  fortunate
• 11:29
  too,
• 11:29
  because
• 11:30
  ours
• 11:30
  takes
• 11:31
  place
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  Rocky
• 11:32
  Mountains.
• 11:32
  We're
• 11:33
  getting
• 11:33
  support
• 11:34
  from
• 11:34
  bookstores
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  stores
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  Rocky
• 11:37
  Mountains
• 11:37
  because
• 11:39
  we
• 11:39
  get
• 11:39
  tourists
• 11:40
  coming
• 11:40
  in
• 11:40
  and
• 11:40
  they
• 11:41
  want
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  momento.
• 11:42
  They,
• 11:42
  they
• 11:43
  bring
• 11:43
  their
• 11:43
  family
• 11:43
  and
• 11:44
  then
• 11:44
  all
• 11:44
  of
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  sudden
• 11:45
  have
• 11:45
  something
• 11:45
  they
• 11:46
  can
• 11:46
  take
• 11:46
  home
• 11:46
  with
• 11:47
  them.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:48
  yeah,
• 11:48
  so
• 11:48
  I
• 11:48
  know
• 11:49
  exactly
• 11:49
  what
• 11:49
  you're
• 11:49
  saying.
• 11:50
  So
• 11:50
  are
• 11:50
  you
• 11:50
  getting
• 11:51
  any?
• 11:52
  So
• 11:52
  I'm
• 11:52
  going
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  do
• 11:52
  this
• 11:53
  kind
• 11:53
  of
• 11:53
  in
• 11:53
  reverse
• 11:54
  because
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  said,
• 11:54
  okay,
• 11:55
  from
• 11:55
  your
• 11:55
  dance
• 11:55
  school,
• 11:55
  do
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  sell
• 11:56
  any
• 11:56
  books?
• 11:57
  So
• 11:57
  from
• 11:57
  your
• 11:58
  sales
• 11:59
  in
• 11:59
  those
• 11:59
  local
• 12:00
  bookstores,
• 12:00
  are
• 12:01
  you
• 12:01
  getting
• 12:01
  any
• 12:02
  dance
• 12:02
  clients?
• 12:04
  Interestingly,
• 12:05
  no.
• 12:05
  It
• 12:05
  feels
• 12:06
  like
• 12:06
  they're
• 12:06
  in
• 12:06
  two
• 12:07
  very
• 12:07
  separate
• 12:08
  lanes
• 12:08
  now,
• 12:09
  which
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  always
• 12:10
  thought
• 12:10
  it
• 12:10
  would,
• 12:10
  it
• 12:11
  would
• 12:11
  blend
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  bit
• 12:11
  more.
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  thought
• 12:12
  it
• 12:12
  would
• 12:13
  be
• 12:13
  hand
• 12:13
  in
• 12:14
  hand.
• 12:14
  The
• 12:14
  class
• 12:15
  is
• 12:15
  a
• 12:15
  great
• 12:16
  platform
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  sell
• 12:17
  the
• 12:17
  books,
• 12:17
  but
• 12:18
  there's,
• 12:19
  I
• 12:19
  think
• 12:19
  there's
• 12:20
  been
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  big
• 12:20
  shift
• 12:21
  in
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  way
• 12:21
  that
• 12:22
  Pence
• 12:23
  are
• 12:23
  either
• 12:23
  looking
• 12:24
  to
• 12:24
  buy
• 12:24
  something
• 12:25
  or
• 12:25
  how
• 12:26
  they
• 12:26
  want
• 12:26
  their
• 12:26
  children
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  interact
• 12:28
  and
• 12:28
  have
• 12:28
  different
• 12:29
  sort
• 12:29
  of
• 12:29
  resources.
• 12:30
  They'll
• 12:31
  all
• 12:31
  say,
• 12:31
  how
• 12:31
  wonderful,
• 12:32
  how
• 12:32
  lovely.
• 12:32
  Oh,
• 12:33
  it's
• 12:33
  gorgeous.
• 12:33
  Well
• 12:34
  done,
• 12:34
  you.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  then
• 12:36
  they
• 12:36
  won't
• 12:36
  necessarily
• 12:37
  buy
• 12:37
  it.
• 12:38
  And
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  don't
• 12:38
  know
• 12:38
  if
• 12:38
  it's
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  financial
• 12:40
  thing.
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  don't
• 12:40
  know
• 12:41
  if
• 12:41
  it's
• 12:41
  a
• 12:42
  just.
• 12:43
  I
• 12:44
  don't
• 12:44
  know.
• 12:44
  Parents
• 12:45
  now
• 12:45
  just
• 12:45
  seem
• 12:46
  so
• 12:47
  busy.
• 12:48
  Not
• 12:49
  enough
• 12:49
  time
• 12:49
  to
• 12:49
  start.
• 12:50
  My
• 12:50
  class
• 12:50
  is
• 12:51
  very
• 12:51
  much
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  parent
• 12:51
  join
• 12:52
  in
• 12:52
  participation
• 12:53
  class.
• 12:54
  I
• 12:54
  encourage
• 12:55
  them.
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  say,
• 12:56
  you
• 12:56
  know
• 12:56
  what?
• 12:56
  We've
• 12:56
  got
• 12:57
  so
• 12:58
  much
• 12:58
  to
• 12:58
  do.
• 12:58
  There's
• 12:58
  always
• 12:58
  the
• 12:59
  washing
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  put
• 12:59
  on,
• 12:59
  there's
• 13:00
  always
• 13:00
  jobs
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  do,
• 13:01
  emails,
• 13:01
  banking,
• 13:02
  you
• 13:02
  name
• 13:02
  it.
• 13:03
  Whatever
• 13:03
  we're
• 13:03
  doing,
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  bet.
• 13:04
  Just
• 13:05
  45
• 13:05
  minutes
• 13:05
  to
• 13:06
  be
• 13:06
  with
• 13:06
  your
• 13:06
  child
• 13:06
  and
• 13:07
  just
• 13:07
  pretend
• 13:07
  you're
• 13:07
  an
• 13:07
  elephant.
• 13:08
  Or
• 13:08
  pretend
• 13:09
  and
• 13:09
  you're
• 13:09
  melting
• 13:10
  like
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  block
• 13:10
  of
• 13:11
  ice.
• 13:11
  It's
• 13:11
  fun,
• 13:12
  it's
• 13:12
  silly.
• 13:12
  It's
• 13:12
  only
• 13:13
  us
• 13:13
  in
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  room,
• 13:13
  no
• 13:13
  one's
• 13:14
  looking.
• 13:14
  Let's
• 13:14
  all
• 13:14
  be
• 13:14
  daft.
• 13:15
  Let's
• 13:15
  just
• 13:16
  do
• 13:16
  it
• 13:16
  because
• 13:16
  it's
• 13:17
  fun.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:17
  if
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  children
• 13:17
  see
• 13:18
  us
• 13:18
  doing,
• 13:19
  just
• 13:19
  create
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  imagination,
• 13:21
  that
• 13:22
  bonding,
• 13:22
  that
• 13:23
  time
• 13:23
  together,
• 13:24
  saying,
• 13:24
  I'm
• 13:25
  going
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  Put
• 13:25
  my
• 13:25
  phone
• 13:25
  down.
• 13:26
  Because
• 13:26
  that's
• 13:26
  one
• 13:26
  thing
• 13:26
  I
• 13:27
  would
• 13:27
  say.
• 13:28
  I'm
• 13:28
  all
• 13:28
  guilty
• 13:29
  of
• 13:29
  it.
• 13:29
  Phones
• 13:30
  are
• 13:31
  wonderful
• 13:31
  because
• 13:32
  they
• 13:32
  connect
• 13:32
  us,
• 13:32
  but
• 13:32
  they
• 13:32
  are.
• 13:33
  We
• 13:33
  should
• 13:33
  all
• 13:33
  go
• 13:33
  down
• 13:33
  the
• 13:34
  rabbit
• 13:34
  hole,
• 13:34
  can't
• 13:34
  we?
• 13:34
  With
• 13:35
  social
• 13:35
  media?
• 13:35
  Easily.
• 13:36
  And
• 13:36
  all
• 13:36
  of
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  sudden,
• 13:37
  an
• 13:38
  hour's
• 13:38
  gone.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  don't
• 13:40
  even
• 13:40
  know
• 13:40
  what
• 13:41
  young
• 13:41
  parents
• 13:41
  do
• 13:42
  now,
• 13:42
  because
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  just
• 13:42
  think.
• 13:44
  That'S
• 13:44
  why
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  loved
• 13:44
  your
• 13:45
  book.
• 13:45
  And
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  was
• 13:45
  thinking,
• 13:46
  now
• 13:47
  when
• 13:47
  I
• 13:47
  asked
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  that
• 13:48
  question,
• 13:48
  have
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  done
• 13:49
  any
• 13:49
  actual
• 13:50
  book
• 13:50
  signings
• 13:51
  at
• 13:52
  those
• 13:52
  bookstores
• 13:53
  encouraging
• 13:54
  people
• 13:54
  to
• 13:55
  then
• 13:56
  go
• 13:56
  to
• 13:56
  your
• 13:57
  studio
• 13:57
  and
• 13:57
  join
• 13:58
  your
• 13:58
  classes?
• 13:59
  Of
• 14:00
  course.
• 14:00
  Yeah.
• 14:00
  No,
• 14:01
  I
• 14:01
  have
• 14:01
  done.
• 14:01
  And
• 14:01
  I've
• 14:02
  done
• 14:02
  school
• 14:02
  visits
• 14:02
  and
• 14:03
  preschool
• 14:03
  visits
• 14:04
  as
• 14:04
  well,
• 14:04
  where
• 14:05
  I've
• 14:05
  gone.
• 14:06
  And
• 14:06
  we've
• 14:06
  all
• 14:06
  got
• 14:06
  up
• 14:07
  and
• 14:07
  we've
• 14:07
  done
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  book.
• 14:07
  We've
• 14:08
  actually
• 14:09
  done
• 14:09
  it.
• 14:09
  We've
• 14:09
  stood
• 14:10
  up,
• 14:10
  parents
• 14:10
  included.
• 14:11
  Let's
• 14:11
  get
• 14:12
  up.
• 14:12
  Let's
• 14:12
  do
• 14:12
  it.
• 14:12
  So
• 14:12
  much
• 14:13
  fun.
• 14:14
  Yeah.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  think
• 14:14
  they're
• 14:15
  always
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  bit
• 14:15
  surprised.
• 14:16
  They
• 14:16
  feel
• 14:16
  like
• 14:16
  they're
• 14:16
  there
• 14:16
  for
• 14:17
  a
• 14:17
  reading
• 14:17
  and
• 14:17
  they're
• 14:18
  just
• 14:18
  going
• 14:18
  to
• 14:18
  sit
• 14:18
  and
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  children
• 14:19
  are
• 14:19
  going
• 14:19
  to
• 14:19
  partake.
• 14:19
  And
• 14:20
  I'm
• 14:20
  thinking,
• 14:20
  nope,
• 14:20
  come
• 14:21
  on,
• 14:21
  everyone,
• 14:21
  up
• 14:22
  we
• 14:22
  get.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:23
  we'll
• 14:23
  do
• 14:23
  all
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  movements
• 14:24
  and
• 14:24
  do
• 14:24
  all
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  actions.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:25
  then
• 14:25
  they
• 14:25
  can
• 14:25
  see.
• 14:25
  It's
• 14:26
  like
• 14:26
  we're
• 14:26
  jumping
• 14:26
  into
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  book.
• 14:27
  You're
• 14:27
  doing
• 14:28
  it.
• 14:28
  Yeah.
• 14:29
  So,
• 14:29
  yeah,
• 14:30
  it's
• 14:30
  a
• 14:30
  mixture,
• 14:30
  I
• 14:30
  think
• 14:31
  anyone
• 14:31
  would
• 14:31
  say.
• 14:31
  You
• 14:31
  go
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  these
• 14:32
  things
• 14:32
  and
• 14:33
  yeah,
• 14:34
  it's
• 14:34
  like,
• 14:34
  half
• 14:35
  will
• 14:35
  buy
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  book,
• 14:36
  half
• 14:36
  will
• 14:36
  go,
• 14:36
  well,
• 14:36
  that's
• 14:37
  great.
• 14:37
  Thanks,
• 14:37
  but
• 14:37
  no
• 14:38
  thanks.
• 14:38
  Yes.
• 14:39
  And
• 14:39
  it's
• 14:40
  interesting
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  should
• 14:40
  say
• 14:41
  that,
• 14:41
  Alison,
• 14:42
  because
• 14:42
  we're
• 14:43
  about
• 14:43
  to
• 14:43
  launch
• 14:44
  our
• 14:44
  second
• 14:45
  book
• 14:45
  in
• 14:46
  our
• 14:46
  book
• 14:46
  series.
• 14:48
  Thank
• 14:48
  you.
• 14:48
  It's
• 14:48
  called
• 14:48
  hi
• 14:49
  Jinx
• 14:49
  from
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  Big
• 14:49
  Head
• 14:50
  Folk
• 14:50
  Music
• 14:50
  Festival.
• 14:51
  Oh,
• 14:51
  fun.
• 14:52
  It's
• 14:53
  actually
• 14:53
  based
• 14:53
  on
• 14:53
  a
• 14:54
  true
• 14:54
  story
• 14:54
  with
• 14:55
  my
• 14:55
  three
• 14:55
  of
• 14:55
  my
• 14:55
  grandchildren,
• 14:56
  where
• 14:57
  we
• 14:57
  went
• 14:57
  to
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  oldest
• 14:59
  folk
• 14:59
  festival
• 15:00
  in
• 15:00
  Alberta,
• 15:01
  and
• 15:03
  it
• 15:03
  was
• 15:03
  such
• 15:03
  a
• 15:04
  wonderful
• 15:04
  time.
• 15:05
  Three
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  my
• 15:05
  grandchildren
• 15:06
  encouraged
• 15:07
  me
• 15:07
  to
• 15:08
  help
• 15:08
  them
• 15:08
  write
• 15:08
  a
• 15:08
  book,
• 15:09
  which
• 15:09
  we
• 15:09
  did.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  we're
• 15:10
  actually
• 15:11
  launching
• 15:11
  the
• 15:12
  book
• 15:13
  at
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  folk
• 15:14
  Festival
• 15:15
  on
• 15:15
  Sunday,
• 15:15
  August
• 15:16
  3rd.
• 15:17
  Congratulations.
• 15:19
  Thank
• 15:19
  you.
• 15:19
  Yeah.
• 15:20
  So
• 15:20
  it's
• 15:20
  going
• 15:20
  to
• 15:20
  be
• 15:20
  so
• 15:21
  much
• 15:21
  fun.
• 15:21
  But
• 15:21
  to
• 15:22
  your
• 15:22
  point,
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  reason
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  bring
• 15:23
  this
• 15:23
  up
• 15:24
  is
• 15:24
  that
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  folk
• 15:25
  festival
• 15:26
  just
• 15:26
  reached
• 15:26
  out
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  me
• 15:27
  and
• 15:27
  said,
• 15:28
  can
• 15:28
  you
• 15:28
  give
• 15:28
  us
• 15:29
  a
• 15:29
  couple
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  sentences?
• 15:30
  Because
• 15:30
  we
• 15:30
  want
• 15:30
  to
• 15:31
  put
• 15:31
  in
• 15:31
  our
• 15:31
  program,
• 15:32
  what
• 15:33
  exactly
• 15:33
  are
• 15:33
  you
• 15:34
  going
• 15:34
  to
• 15:34
  do
• 15:35
  besides
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  book
• 15:36
  reading?
• 15:36
  And
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  do
• 15:37
  have
• 15:38
  several
• 15:38
  ideas,
• 15:39
  but
• 15:40
  during
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  book
• 15:41
  reading,
• 15:41
  there's
• 15:41
  a
• 15:42
  couple
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  instances
• 15:43
  where
• 15:44
  we
• 15:45
  want
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  children
• 15:46
  to
• 15:46
  actually
• 15:46
  participate
• 15:47
  as
• 15:47
  I'm
• 15:47
  reading
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  book,
• 15:49
  but
• 15:49
  I've
• 15:49
  never
• 15:49
  done
• 15:50
  this
• 15:50
  before.
• 15:51
  So
• 15:51
  it's
• 15:51
  going
• 15:51
  to
• 15:51
  be
• 15:51
  fun
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  actually,
• 15:53
  at
• 15:53
  that
• 15:54
  certain
• 15:54
  moment
• 15:55
  on
• 15:55
  that
• 15:55
  certain
• 15:56
  page
• 15:56
  is
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  get
• 15:57
  them
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  get
• 15:58
  up.
• 15:58
  Because
• 15:58
  one
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  them
• 15:59
  is
• 15:59
  actually
• 16:00
  getting
• 16:00
  them
• 16:00
  up
• 16:01
  and
• 16:01
  wiggling
• 16:01
  their
• 16:01
  butt
• 16:02
  and.
• 16:03
  Great.
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  love
• 16:05
  that.
• 16:05
  And
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  other
• 16:05
  one
• 16:06
  is
• 16:06
  to
• 16:06
  actually
• 16:06
  get
• 16:06
  them
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  do
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  big
• 16:07
  drum
• 16:08
  roll.
• 16:09
  Just
• 16:09
  seeing
• 16:10
  how
• 16:10
  to
• 16:11
  get
• 16:11
  that
• 16:12
  as
• 16:12
  you're
• 16:12
  reading.
• 16:13
  Get
• 16:13
  that
• 16:13
  incorporated
• 16:14
  and
• 16:14
  happen.
• 16:15
  Yeah.
• 16:16
  Very
• 16:16
  excited
• 16:16
  about
• 16:17
  that.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  think
• 16:17
  that's
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  thing,
• 16:18
  because
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  think
• 16:18
  for
• 16:19
  me,
• 16:19
  movement,
• 16:20
  I
• 16:20
  think
• 16:20
  it's
• 16:21
  just
• 16:21
  innate
• 16:21
  in
• 16:21
  me,
• 16:21
  that
• 16:22
  whole
• 16:22
  sense
• 16:22
  of
• 16:23
  rhythm
• 16:23
  and
• 16:23
  movement
• 16:24
  and
• 16:24
  finding
• 16:24
  the
• 16:25
  neurotism
• 16:26
  in
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  way
• 16:27
  that
• 16:27
  you
• 16:27
  go
• 16:27
  through
• 16:28
  your
• 16:28
  day.
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  think
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  am
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  dancer
• 16:30
  through
• 16:30
  and
• 16:30
  through.
• 16:30
  And
• 16:30
  I
• 16:31
  feel
• 16:31
  like
• 16:31
  that
• 16:31
  has
• 16:31
  just.
• 16:32
  It's
• 16:32
  just
• 16:32
  still
• 16:33
  there.
• 16:33
  So
• 16:34
  for
• 16:34
  me,
• 16:34
  a
• 16:35
  book
• 16:35
  like
• 16:36
  this,
• 16:36
  My
• 16:36
  Sunny
• 16:37
  Steps
• 16:37
  Us
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  Dance.
• 16:38
  Yours
• 16:38
  sounds
• 16:39
  fantastic.
• 16:39
  The
• 16:39
  whole
• 16:40
  thing
• 16:40
  of
• 16:40
  getting
• 16:40
  up,
• 16:41
  moving.
• 16:42
  Because
• 16:42
  also,
• 16:42
  not
• 16:43
  all
• 16:43
  children
• 16:43
  like
• 16:43
  to
• 16:44
  sit
• 16:44
  still
• 16:44
  when
• 16:45
  they
• 16:45
  jump
• 16:45
  around.
• 16:46
  They
• 16:46
  always
• 16:46
  do
• 16:47
  that.
• 16:47
  Exactly.
• 16:47
  So
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  say
• 16:48
  right
• 16:48
  now
• 16:49
  we're
• 16:49
  going
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  sit
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  read.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:50
  there
• 16:50
  are
• 16:50
  some
• 16:50
  books
• 16:50
  that
• 16:51
  are
• 16:51
  perfect
• 16:51
  for
• 16:51
  that.
• 16:51
  You
• 16:52
  need
• 16:52
  that
• 16:52
  quiet
• 16:52
  time.
• 16:52
  You
• 16:53
  need
• 16:53
  that
• 16:54
  sitting,
• 16:54
  sit
• 16:55
  still.
• 16:55
  Gonna
• 16:55
  read
• 16:56
  it
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  really
• 16:56
  follow
• 16:56
  the
• 16:57
  words
• 16:57
  and
• 16:57
  follow
• 16:57
  the
• 16:58
  pictures
• 16:58
  and
• 16:58
  all
• 16:58
  that.
• 16:58
  And
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  get
• 16:59
  that.
• 17:00
  For
• 17:00
  me,
• 17:00
  it
• 17:00
  was
• 17:01
  just.
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  wanted
• 17:01
  to
• 17:02
  get
• 17:02
  movement
• 17:03
  into
• 17:03
  my
• 17:04
  book
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  see
• 17:05
  how
• 17:05
  a
• 17:06
  father
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  son
• 17:06
  can
• 17:07
  have
• 17:07
  so
• 17:07
  much
• 17:07
  fun
• 17:07
  together.
• 17:08
  And
• 17:08
  they
• 17:08
  literally
• 17:08
  go
• 17:09
  out
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  their
• 17:09
  playroom
• 17:10
  and
• 17:10
  into
• 17:11
  this
• 17:11
  wonderful
• 17:11
  world
• 17:12
  because
• 17:12
  they're
• 17:12
  suddenly
• 17:12
  not
• 17:12
  in
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  playroom,
• 17:13
  they're
• 17:13
  in
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  jungle
• 17:14
  or
• 17:14
  they're
• 17:14
  on
• 17:14
  earth
• 17:15
  in
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  sky
• 17:15
  with
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  clouds.
• 17:16
  And
• 17:17
  like
• 17:17
  you
• 17:17
  said,
• 17:17
  creating
• 17:18
  that
• 17:18
  interactiveness.
• 17:19
  Because
• 17:20
  like
• 17:20
  you
• 17:21
  were
• 17:21
  saying,
• 17:21
  the
• 17:22
  parents
• 17:22
  come
• 17:23
  to
• 17:23
  your
• 17:24
  studio
• 17:24
  and
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  get
• 17:25
  them
• 17:25
  involved
• 17:26
  also.
• 17:27
  Which.
• 17:27
  Yes.
• 17:28
  Which
• 17:28
  is
• 17:28
  fun.
• 17:29
  Because
• 17:29
  then
• 17:29
  you
• 17:30
  know
• 17:30
  what?
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  that's
• 17:31
  what
• 17:31
  I'm
• 17:31
  hoping
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  do
• 17:32
  here.
• 17:32
  Because
• 17:32
  we're
• 17:33
  going
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  be
• 17:33
  in
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  kids
• 17:34
  section
• 17:34
  at
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  folk
• 17:35
  music
• 17:35
  festival
• 17:36
  and
• 17:37
  a
• 17:37
  lot
• 17:37
  of
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  parents
• 17:38
  or
• 17:38
  grandparents
• 17:39
  will
• 17:39
  be
• 17:40
  with
• 17:40
  these
• 17:40
  young
• 17:40
  children.
• 17:41
  So
• 17:42
  now
• 17:42
  I'm
• 17:42
  gonna
• 17:43
  also
• 17:43
  have
• 17:43
  to
• 17:43
  think
• 17:44
  about.
• 17:44
  Okay,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  want
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  parents
• 17:47
  or
• 17:47
  grandparents
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  get
• 17:48
  up
• 17:48
  and
• 17:48
  wiggle.
• 17:49
  I
• 17:49
  want
• 17:49
  them
• 17:49
  to
• 17:50
  help
• 17:50
  do
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  drum
• 17:50
  roll.
• 17:51
  Yes.
• 17:52
  So
• 17:52
  we'll
• 17:52
  see
• 17:52
  what
• 17:53
  happens.
• 17:53
  But
• 17:53
  I'm
• 17:54
  excited.
• 17:54
  That's
• 17:54
  how
• 17:54
  it
• 17:54
  goes.
• 17:54
  You
• 17:55
  could.
• 17:55
  You
• 17:55
  could
• 17:55
  do
• 17:55
  it
• 17:56
  like,
• 17:56
  right,
• 17:56
  kids,
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  want
• 17:57
  to
• 17:57
  hear
• 17:57
  your
• 17:57
  drum
• 17:57
  roll.
• 17:58
  Grown
• 17:58
  ups,
• 17:58
  let
• 17:58
  me
• 17:58
  hear
• 17:59
  your
• 17:59
  drum
• 17:59
  roll.
• 17:59
  Let's
• 18:00
  put
• 18:00
  it
• 18:00
  all
• 18:00
  together.
• 18:00
  That.
• 18:01
  Oh,
• 18:01
  yeah,
• 18:02
  great
• 18:02
  idea.
• 18:03
  I'm
• 18:04
  gonna.
• 18:04
  I'm
• 18:04
  gonna
• 18:04
  steal
• 18:05
  that.
• 18:05
  Is
• 18:05
  that
• 18:05
  okay?
• 18:06
  No.
• 18:06
  Okay,
• 18:07
  then
• 18:07
  it
• 18:08
  stretches
• 18:08
  it
• 18:08
  out
• 18:08
  a
• 18:09
  bit
• 18:09
  more.
• 18:09
  Then
• 18:09
  it's
• 18:10
  just.
• 18:10
  Now
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  can
• 18:11
  hear
• 18:11
  you
• 18:11
  get
• 18:11
  louder
• 18:11
  can
• 18:11
  you
• 18:11
  do
• 18:11
  it
• 18:12
  quieter?
• 18:12
  Can
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  do
• 18:12
  it
• 18:13
  faster?
• 18:13
  Can
• 18:13
  you
• 18:13
  do
• 18:13
  it
• 18:13
  slower?
• 18:14
  Oh,
• 18:14
  terrific.
• 18:16
  Play
• 18:16
  around
• 18:16
  with
• 18:16
  it.
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  think
• 18:17
  it'll
• 18:17
  be
• 18:17
  fun.
• 18:19
  Oh.
• 18:19
  So
• 18:20
  I
• 18:20
  wanted
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  talk
• 18:20
  to
• 18:21
  you
• 18:21
  about
• 18:21
  your
• 18:21
  publishing
• 18:22
  approach.
• 18:23
  So
• 18:23
  each
• 18:23
  of
• 18:23
  us
• 18:24
  has
• 18:24
  a
• 18:24
  unique
• 18:24
  publishing
• 18:25
  approach
• 18:25
  because
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  talk
• 18:26
  to
• 18:26
  people.
• 18:26
  You're
• 18:27
  either
• 18:27
  an
• 18:28
  indie
• 18:28
  publisher,
• 18:29
  which
• 18:29
  is
• 18:30
  someone
• 18:30
  who
• 18:30
  publishes
• 18:31
  under
• 18:31
  their
• 18:32
  own
• 18:32
  company
• 18:33
  name
• 18:33
  or
• 18:34
  whatever
• 18:35
  name
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  come
• 18:35
  up
• 18:35
  with.
• 18:36
  A
• 18:36
  self
• 18:37
  publishing
• 18:38
  generally
• 18:38
  is
• 18:39
  where
• 18:39
  you're
• 18:39
  still
• 18:40
  like
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  general
• 18:40
  manager
• 18:41
  of
• 18:41
  your
• 18:42
  book,
• 18:42
  but
• 18:43
  you
• 18:43
  actually
• 18:43
  hire
• 18:44
  someone
• 18:44
  to
• 18:44
  publish
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  book.
• 18:46
  And
• 18:46
  a
• 18:46
  lot
• 18:46
  of
• 18:46
  people
• 18:47
  call
• 18:47
  that
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  hybrid
• 18:48
  publisher.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  then
• 18:49
  we
• 18:49
  have
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  traditional
• 18:50
  publisher
• 18:51
  where
• 18:51
  you
• 18:51
  get
• 18:51
  a
• 18:51
  literary
• 18:52
  agent
• 18:52
  and
• 18:52
  you
• 18:53
  try
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  find
• 18:53
  a
• 18:54
  publisher
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  publish
• 18:55
  your
• 18:55
  book.
• 18:55
  So
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  noticed
• 18:56
  you
• 18:57
  use
• 18:57
  Cran
• 18:57
  Thorpe
• 18:58
  Milner
• 18:59
  Publishing.
• 19:00
  So
• 19:00
  could
• 19:00
  you
• 19:01
  tell
• 19:01
  us
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  bit
• 19:01
  about
• 19:01
  the
• 19:02
  publisher?
• 19:03
  Are
• 19:03
  they
• 19:03
  a
• 19:04
  hybrid
• 19:04
  publisher?
• 19:05
  Oh
• 19:05
  yeah.
• 19:05
  So
• 19:06
  in
• 19:06
  this
• 19:06
  instance,
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  way
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  started
• 19:08
  it,
• 19:08
  because
• 19:08
  again,
• 19:08
  it
• 19:08
  was
• 19:09
  that
• 19:09
  whole
• 19:09
  thing
• 19:09
  as
• 19:09
  a
• 19:10
  first
• 19:10
  time
• 19:10
  author,
• 19:10
  it
• 19:10
  was
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  sort
• 19:11
  of
• 19:12
  do
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  need
• 19:13
  an
• 19:13
  agent?
• 19:13
  Do
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  go
• 19:14
  straight
• 19:14
  to
• 19:15
  a
• 19:15
  publisher?
• 19:15
  What
• 19:16
  do
• 19:16
  you
• 19:16
  do?
• 19:16
  There
• 19:16
  was
• 19:17
  no
• 19:17
  sort
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  manual
• 19:17
  on
• 19:18
  it.
• 19:18
  You
• 19:18
  kept
• 19:18
  asking
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  Google
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  you
• 19:20
  try
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  find
• 19:21
  out
• 19:21
  here
• 19:21
  and
• 19:21
  then
• 19:21
  you
• 19:22
  ask
• 19:22
  people,
• 19:22
  do
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  know
• 19:23
  you're
• 19:23
  in
• 19:23
  publishing?
• 19:23
  Kind
• 19:24
  of
• 19:24
  do
• 19:24
  you
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  just
• 19:25
  all
• 19:25
  this
• 19:25
  kind
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  thing.
• 19:26
  So
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  tried
• 19:26
  to
• 19:27
  start
• 19:27
  with
• 19:27
  a
• 19:28
  few
• 19:28
  agents,
• 19:28
  didn't
• 19:29
  get
• 19:29
  anywhere.
• 19:30
  Then
• 19:31
  there
• 19:31
  were
• 19:31
  a
• 19:31
  few
• 19:31
  publishing
• 19:32
  houses,
• 19:32
  I
• 19:33
  just
• 19:33
  tried,
• 19:33
  I
• 19:33
  thought
• 19:34
  I'm
• 19:34
  just
• 19:34
  going
• 19:34
  to
• 19:34
  see.
• 19:36
  And
• 19:37
  two
• 19:37
  of
• 19:38
  them
• 19:38
  wrote
• 19:38
  that
• 19:39
  and
• 19:40
  they
• 19:40
  said,
• 19:41
  it's
• 19:42
  really
• 19:42
  lovely
• 19:43
  book,
• 19:43
  it's
• 19:44
  just
• 19:44
  not
• 19:44
  right
• 19:44
  for
• 19:44
  us.
• 19:45
  But
• 19:45
  we
• 19:46
  really
• 19:46
  liked
• 19:46
  your
• 19:46
  book.
• 19:47
  And
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  just
• 19:48
  thought
• 19:48
  I'm
• 19:48
  going
• 19:48
  to
• 19:48
  hold
• 19:49
  onto
• 19:49
  that
• 19:49
  thread
• 19:49
  because
• 19:50
  I.
• 19:50
  They've
• 19:51
  said
• 19:51
  that
• 19:51
  it
• 19:51
  was
• 19:52
  good.
• 19:52
  So
• 19:52
  that's
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  real
• 19:53
  excellent.
• 19:54
  I'm
• 19:54
  gonna
• 19:54
  go
• 19:54
  with
• 19:54
  that.
• 19:55
  And
• 19:56
  then
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  sat
• 19:56
  on
• 19:56
  it
• 19:56
  for
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  while.
• 19:57
  Cause
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  thought
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  don't
• 19:57
  know
• 19:58
  what
• 19:58
  to
• 19:58
  do
• 19:58
  with
• 19:58
  it
• 19:58
  because
• 19:58
  again,
• 19:58
  you're
• 19:59
  stuck
• 19:59
  with
• 19:59
  it.
• 19:59
  And
• 20:00
  then
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  came
• 20:00
  across
• 20:00
  Cranthorpe
• 20:01
  Milner
• 20:02
  and
• 20:02
  I
• 20:03
  started
• 20:03
  looking
• 20:03
  into
• 20:03
  what
• 20:04
  they
• 20:04
  did.
• 20:04
  And
• 20:04
  then
• 20:04
  this
• 20:05
  hybrid
• 20:06
  kind
• 20:06
  of
• 20:06
  publishing
• 20:07
  kept
• 20:07
  coming
• 20:08
  back.
• 20:08
  There
• 20:08
  were
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  few
• 20:08
  of
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  publishing
• 20:09
  houses
• 20:10
  that
• 20:10
  were
• 20:10
  doing
• 20:10
  that.
• 20:11
  So
• 20:12
  basically
• 20:12
  it
• 20:12
  is
• 20:12
  self
• 20:13
  publishing
• 20:13
  as
• 20:13
  you
• 20:14
  said,
• 20:14
  but
• 20:15
  it's
• 20:15
  having
• 20:15
  them
• 20:15
  hold
• 20:16
  my
• 20:16
  hand
• 20:16
  through
• 20:17
  it.
• 20:17
  So
• 20:18
  as
• 20:19
  an
• 20:19
  unknown,
• 20:19
  I'm
• 20:20
  not
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  famous
• 20:20
  person.
• 20:21
  So
• 20:22
  they're
• 20:22
  not
• 20:22
  going
• 20:22
  to
• 20:22
  go,
• 20:22
  absolutely,
• 20:23
  come
• 20:23
  on
• 20:23
  in,
• 20:23
  we're
• 20:23
  going
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  take
• 20:24
  you
• 20:24
  out
• 20:24
  for
• 20:24
  dinner
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  sign
• 20:25
  a
• 20:25
  deal.
• 20:26
  And
• 20:26
  that's
• 20:26
  good.
• 20:27
  It's
• 20:27
  just
• 20:28
  little
• 20:28
  old
• 20:28
  me.
• 20:29
  But
• 20:29
  equally
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  look
• 20:30
  at
• 20:30
  it
• 20:31
  that
• 20:31
  at
• 20:31
  this
• 20:31
  end
• 20:31
  you've
• 20:32
  got
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  kind
• 20:32
  of
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  indie
• 20:33
  publishers
• 20:33
  that
• 20:33
  are
• 20:33
  doing
• 20:34
  it
• 20:34
  all
• 20:34
  themselves.
• 20:35
  And
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  thought,
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  don't
• 20:37
  know
• 20:37
  what
• 20:37
  I'm
• 20:37
  doing,
• 20:37
  I
• 20:38
  wouldn't
• 20:38
  know
• 20:38
  where
• 20:38
  to
• 20:38
  begin.
• 20:39
  Over
• 20:39
  here,
• 20:39
  the
• 20:40
  famous
• 20:40
  people,
• 20:40
  that's
• 20:41
  not
• 20:41
  me.
• 20:41
  So
• 20:41
  I'm
• 20:42
  in
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  middle.
• 20:43
  So
• 20:43
  it's
• 20:43
  basically
• 20:44
  having
• 20:45
  them
• 20:45
  hold
• 20:45
  my
• 20:46
  hand,
• 20:46
  set
• 20:47
  things
• 20:47
  up.
• 20:47
  They've
• 20:47
  put
• 20:47
  the
• 20:48
  whole
• 20:48
  template,
• 20:48
  getting
• 20:49
  it
• 20:49
  into
• 20:49
  Waterstones,
• 20:50
  onto
• 20:50
  Amazon,
• 20:51
  getting
• 20:51
  it
• 20:52
  at
• 20:52
  Blackwell's.
• 20:54
  I've
• 20:54
  obviously
• 20:55
  done
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  legwork
• 20:55
  in
• 20:55
  terms
• 20:55
  of
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  little
• 20:57
  shops
• 20:57
  in
• 20:57
  between,
• 20:58
  a
• 20:58
  little
• 20:59
  independent
• 20:59
  shops.
• 21:00
  Absolutely,
• 21:01
  all
• 21:01
  that
• 21:01
  kind
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  thing.
• 21:02
  Or
• 21:02
  book
• 21:02
  fairs
• 21:03
  or
• 21:03
  preschools
• 21:04
  and
• 21:04
  posting
• 21:05
  on
• 21:05
  Instagram.
• 21:05
  That's
• 21:06
  all
• 21:06
  on
• 21:06
  me.
• 21:07
  So
• 21:07
  it's
• 21:07
  yes,
• 21:07
  they've
• 21:08
  published
• 21:08
  my
• 21:08
  books
• 21:10
  but
• 21:10
  then
• 21:11
  it's
• 21:11
  almost
• 21:11
  like
• 21:11
  they
• 21:11
  hand
• 21:11
  the
• 21:12
  bat
• 21:12
  on
• 21:12
  over
• 21:13
  and
• 21:13
  then
• 21:13
  it's
• 21:13
  up
• 21:13
  to
• 21:14
  me
• 21:14
  to
• 21:14
  promote.
• 21:15
  They
• 21:15
  can
• 21:15
  try
• 21:16
  this
• 21:16
  or
• 21:16
  that,
• 21:17
  but
• 21:17
  it's
• 21:18
  very
• 21:18
  much.
• 21:19
  You
• 21:19
  are
• 21:19
  still
• 21:19
  doing
• 21:20
  it
• 21:20
  a
• 21:20
  lot
• 21:20
  yourself.
• 21:20
  Which
• 21:21
  I
• 21:21
  think
• 21:21
  for
• 21:21
  me
• 21:22
  going
• 21:22
  into
• 21:22
  it
• 21:22
  now
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  second
• 21:23
  time,
• 21:23
  I'm
• 21:24
  a
• 21:24
  lot
• 21:24
  more
• 21:24
  aware
• 21:25
  of
• 21:25
  what's
• 21:25
  expected
• 21:26
  of
• 21:26
  me,
• 21:26
  what
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  expect
• 21:27
  from
• 21:27
  them.
• 21:28
  Again,
• 21:28
  naively
• 21:29
  I
• 21:29
  thought,
• 21:30
  oh,
• 21:30
  they've
• 21:31
  published
• 21:31
  it
• 21:31
  and
• 21:32
  I'm
• 21:32
  going
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  sit
• 21:32
  back
• 21:33
  and
• 21:33
  they
• 21:33
  can
• 21:33
  and
• 21:34
  the
• 21:34
  checks
• 21:34
  are.
• 21:34
  Going
• 21:34
  to
• 21:35
  roll
• 21:35
  in.
• 21:37
  Like
• 21:38
  how
• 21:39
  much?
• 21:39
  It's
• 21:39
  like
• 21:40
  pennies
• 21:40
  coming.
• 21:41
  But
• 21:42
  it's,
• 21:42
  but
• 21:42
  it's
• 21:43
  fine
• 21:43
  because
• 21:43
  I,
• 21:44
  my
• 21:44
  aim
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  start
• 21:45
  with
• 21:45
  was
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  just
• 21:47
  get
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  book
• 21:48
  out
• 21:48
  there.
• 21:49
  Like
• 21:49
  I
• 21:49
  said,
• 21:49
  I've
• 21:49
  done
• 21:50
  so
• 21:50
  many
• 21:50
  steps
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  class
• 21:51
  for
• 21:51
  over
• 21:51
  20
• 21:52
  years.
• 21:53
  So
• 21:53
  when
• 21:54
  you've
• 21:54
  done
• 21:54
  something
• 21:54
  for
• 21:54
  that
• 21:55
  long,
• 21:55
  you
• 21:55
  want
• 21:56
  something
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  show.
• 21:56
  Because
• 21:57
  if
• 21:57
  I
• 21:57
  stopped
• 21:57
  it
• 21:58
  tomorrow,
• 21:58
  yes,
• 21:59
  other
• 22:00
  than
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  bag
• 22:00
  full
• 22:01
  of
• 22:01
  props
• 22:01
  and
• 22:02
  various
• 22:02
  other
• 22:03
  things
• 22:04
  that
• 22:04
  I
• 22:04
  use
• 22:04
  in
• 22:04
  class,
• 22:05
  I've
• 22:05
  got
• 22:05
  nothing
• 22:06
  to
• 22:07
  say.
• 22:07
  This
• 22:07
  is
• 22:07
  what
• 22:07
  I've
• 22:07
  done.
• 22:08
  So
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  wanted
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  go
• 22:09
  physically
• 22:09
  I've
• 22:10
  got
• 22:10
  this
• 22:10
  book,
• 22:10
  here
• 22:11
  it
• 22:11
  is,
• 22:11
  here
• 22:12
  it
• 22:12
  is.
• 22:13
  And
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  second
• 22:14
  one
• 22:14
  coming
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  there's
• 22:14
  hopefully
• 22:15
  going
• 22:15
  to
• 22:15
  be
• 22:15
  a
• 22:15
  third
• 22:15
  one
• 22:16
  and
• 22:16
  that
• 22:16
  will
• 22:16
  complete
• 22:17
  my
• 22:18
  sort
• 22:18
  of
• 22:19
  sunny
• 22:19
  steps,
• 22:20
  ideas
• 22:20
  and
• 22:21
  things
• 22:21
  like
• 22:21
  that.
• 22:21
  So
• 22:22
  as
• 22:22
  a
• 22:22
  self
• 22:22
  published
• 22:23
  author,
• 22:23
  I'm
• 22:24
  curious,
• 22:24
  I'm
• 22:24
  not
• 22:25
  familiar
• 22:25
  with
• 22:26
  Cran,
• 22:26
  Thorpe
• 22:27
  Milner,
• 22:27
  but
• 22:27
  can
• 22:28
  you
• 22:28
  tell
• 22:28
  us
• 22:29
  you're
• 22:29
  printing
• 22:30
  on
• 22:30
  demand
• 22:31
  so
• 22:31
  you
• 22:32
  just
• 22:32
  get
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  hold
• 22:32
  of
• 22:32
  them,
• 22:33
  they
• 22:33
  print
• 22:34
  some
• 22:34
  books
• 22:34
  for
• 22:34
  you,
• 22:35
  depending
• 22:35
  on
• 22:35
  how
• 22:35
  many
• 22:36
  you
• 22:36
  want
• 22:36
  and
• 22:37
  then
• 22:37
  you
• 22:37
  have
• 22:37
  get
• 22:38
  your
• 22:38
  pricing
• 22:38
  from
• 22:38
  them,
• 22:39
  then
• 22:39
  you
• 22:39
  create
• 22:40
  a
• 22:40
  wholesale
• 22:40
  price
• 22:40
  and
• 22:41
  you
• 22:41
  go
• 22:41
  to
• 22:41
  your,
• 22:41
  the
• 22:42
  local
• 22:42
  bookstores
• 22:43
  that
• 22:43
  you're
• 22:44
  selling
• 22:44
  in
• 22:44
  and
• 22:44
  then
• 22:45
  you
• 22:45
  have
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  price
• 22:46
  for
• 22:46
  them,
• 22:46
  is
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  correct?
• 22:47
  Yes,
• 22:47
  exactly.
• 22:48
  So
• 22:48
  I
• 22:48
  basically
• 22:49
  I
• 22:50
  got
• 22:50
  like
• 22:50
  my
• 22:51
  stack
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  books
• 22:52
  so
• 22:52
  that
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  had
• 22:52
  my
• 22:53
  stack
• 22:53
  so
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  could
• 22:53
  say
• 22:54
  what
• 22:54
  if
• 22:54
  I'm
• 22:54
  in
• 22:54
  class
• 22:54
  I
• 22:55
  can
• 22:55
  sell
• 22:55
  them.
• 22:55
  If
• 22:56
  I'm
• 22:56
  at
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  preschool,
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  can
• 22:57
  sell
• 22:58
  them.
• 22:58
  If
• 22:58
  I'm
• 22:58
  at
• 22:58
  a
• 22:58
  book
• 22:58
  fair,
• 22:59
  I
• 22:59
  could
• 22:59
  sell
• 22:59
  them
• 23:00
  to
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  shops.
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  could
• 23:01
  say,
• 23:01
  look,
• 23:01
  this
• 23:01
  is
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  price,
• 23:02
  we
• 23:02
  can
• 23:03
  discuss
• 23:04
  that,
• 23:04
  negotiate
• 23:04
  it
• 23:05
  and
• 23:05
  then
• 23:05
  they
• 23:06
  can
• 23:06
  sell
• 23:06
  it
• 23:06
  on
• 23:06
  and
• 23:07
  so
• 23:07
  forth.
• 23:07
  So
• 23:07
  I've
• 23:07
  done
• 23:07
  that
• 23:08
  in
• 23:08
  a
• 23:08
  few
• 23:08
  places
• 23:09
  and.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:10
  equally
• 23:10
  sent
• 23:10
  a
• 23:10
  lot
• 23:11
  of
• 23:11
  free
• 23:11
  ones,
• 23:12
  asking
• 23:12
  people
• 23:12
  to
• 23:13
  review
• 23:13
  it
• 23:13
  and.
• 23:14
  And
• 23:14
  they
• 23:14
  kindly
• 23:15
  have,
• 23:15
  and
• 23:15
  vice
• 23:16
  versa.
• 23:16
  I've
• 23:16
  had
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  few
• 23:17
  books
• 23:17
  back
• 23:17
  myself
• 23:17
  to
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  can.
• 23:18
  It's
• 23:19
  just,
• 23:19
  I've
• 23:19
  noticed
• 23:20
  with
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  author
• 23:20
  community
• 23:21
  on
• 23:21
  Instagram
• 23:22
  is
• 23:22
  actually
• 23:23
  really
• 23:24
  supportive
• 23:24
  and
• 23:25
  everyone
• 23:25
  shouts
• 23:25
  everyone
• 23:26
  else
• 23:26
  out
• 23:26
  and
• 23:26
  really
• 23:27
  bigs
• 23:27
  them
• 23:28
  up
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  it's
• 23:28
  really
• 23:28
  lovely.
• 23:29
  I
• 23:30
  think
• 23:30
  I've
• 23:30
  been
• 23:30
  opened
• 23:31
  up
• 23:31
  and
• 23:31
  it's
• 23:31
  wonderful
• 23:32
  because
• 23:32
  it's
• 23:32
  people
• 23:33
  all
• 23:33
  across
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  world,
• 23:34
  you
• 23:34
  never
• 23:35
  get
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  meet
• 23:35
  them.
• 23:36
  You
• 23:36
  see
• 23:36
  them
• 23:36
  on
• 23:36
  their
• 23:36
  little
• 23:37
  Instagram
• 23:38
  for
• 23:39
  sure
• 23:39
  logo
• 23:39
  or
• 23:40
  whatever.
• 23:40
  Yes,
• 23:41
  you
• 23:41
  get
• 23:41
  to
• 23:41
  follow
• 23:42
  them
• 23:42
  and
• 23:42
  they
• 23:42
  follow
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  then
• 23:43
  other
• 23:44
  people
• 23:44
  come
• 23:44
  into
• 23:45
  it
• 23:45
  and
• 23:45
  yeah,
• 23:46
  it's
• 23:46
  such
• 23:46
  a
• 23:46
  great
• 23:47
  community.
• 23:47
  So,
• 23:48
  yes,
• 23:49
  I
• 23:49
  want
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  pick
• 23:49
  up
• 23:49
  on
• 23:49
  what
• 23:50
  you
• 23:50
  said
• 23:50
  about.
• 23:51
  Now
• 23:51
  that
• 23:51
  you've
• 23:52
  got
• 23:52
  some
• 23:52
  experience
• 23:53
  at
• 23:54
  being
• 23:55
  self
• 23:55
  published
• 23:55
  through
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  hybrid
• 23:57
  publisher,
• 23:58
  I'm
• 23:58
  curious,
• 23:59
  what
• 24:00
  are
• 24:00
  you
• 24:00
  going
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  change
• 24:01
  differently
• 24:02
  for
• 24:02
  the
• 24:03
  second
• 24:03
  book?
• 24:04
  What
• 24:04
  are
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  going
• 24:04
  to
• 24:05
  take
• 24:05
  on
• 24:05
  more
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  role,
• 24:07
  some
• 24:07
  of
• 24:07
  the
• 24:08
  things
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  they
• 24:08
  did
• 24:08
  for
• 24:09
  you?
• 24:10
  I
• 24:10
  think
• 24:10
  if
• 24:11
  anything
• 24:11
  is
• 24:12
  about
• 24:12
  managing
• 24:12
  my
• 24:12
  expectations,
• 24:14
  like
• 24:14
  having
• 24:15
  a
• 24:15
  really
• 24:15
  good
• 24:16
  grip
• 24:16
  on
• 24:17
  really
• 24:18
  how
• 24:18
  this
• 24:18
  is
• 24:18
  going
• 24:19
  to
• 24:19
  go
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  it's
• 24:20
  not
• 24:20
  going
• 24:20
  to
• 24:20
  rock
• 24:21
  to
• 24:21
  number
• 24:21
  one
• 24:22
  overnight
• 24:22
  and
• 24:22
  it's
• 24:23
  not,
• 24:23
  you
• 24:23
  know
• 24:23
  what
• 24:23
  I
• 24:23
  mean?
• 24:24
  And
• 24:24
  just
• 24:24
  who
• 24:25
  I
• 24:26
  need
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  be
• 24:27
  promoting
• 24:28
  it
• 24:28
  to.
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  think
• 24:29
  I
• 24:30
  just
• 24:30
  suddenly
• 24:30
  assumed,
• 24:31
  oh,
• 24:31
  we
• 24:31
  could
• 24:31
  ask
• 24:33
  this
• 24:33
  celebrity
• 24:33
  or
• 24:34
  that
• 24:34
  celebrity
• 24:34
  to
• 24:34
  try
• 24:34
  and
• 24:35
  endorse
• 24:35
  it
• 24:35
  all
• 24:35
  because
• 24:35
  they've
• 24:36
  got
• 24:36
  children,
• 24:36
  they
• 24:37
  would
• 24:37
  love
• 24:37
  it,
• 24:37
  this,
• 24:38
  that
• 24:38
  and
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  other
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  just
• 24:40
  being
• 24:40
  a
• 24:40
  little
• 24:40
  bit
• 24:40
  more
• 24:41
  realistic.
• 24:41
  And
• 24:42
  with
• 24:42
  that
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  feel
• 24:43
  like
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  can
• 24:44
  do
• 24:44
  more.
• 24:44
  Whereas
• 24:45
  it's
• 24:45
  taken
• 24:45
  me,
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  think,
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  past
• 24:47
  sort
• 24:47
  of
• 24:49
  six
• 24:49
  months
• 24:49
  or
• 24:50
  so
• 24:50
  to
• 24:50
  really
• 24:51
  get
• 24:51
  to
• 24:51
  grips
• 24:52
  and
• 24:53
  realize
• 24:53
  the
• 24:54
  avenues
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  can
• 24:55
  go
• 24:56
  myself.
• 24:57
  So
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  would
• 24:57
  take
• 24:58
  that
• 24:58
  on.
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  wouldn't
• 24:58
  be
• 24:59
  waiting
• 24:59
  for
• 24:59
  them
• 24:59
  to
• 25:00
  do
• 25:00
  it.
• 25:00
  And
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  feel
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  bit
• 25:01
  silly
• 25:01
  in
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  way,
• 25:02
  thinking
• 25:02
  that's
• 25:02
  what
• 25:03
  would
• 25:03
  happen.
• 25:03
  But
• 25:04
  when
• 25:04
  you've
• 25:04
  got
• 25:04
  nobody
• 25:05
  telling
• 25:05
  you
• 25:05
  otherwise
• 25:05
  or
• 25:06
  whatever,
• 25:06
  and
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  guess
• 25:08
  I.
• 25:08
  Had
• 25:08
  an
• 25:08
  author
• 25:08
  tell
• 25:09
  me,
• 25:10
  she
• 25:10
  said,
• 25:10
  you
• 25:10
  know
• 25:10
  what?
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  put
• 25:11
  together
• 25:11
  this
• 25:12
  great
• 25:12
  promotional
• 25:13
  book
• 25:13
  package.
• 25:14
  I
• 25:15
  sent
• 25:15
  it
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  Oprah
• 25:16
  and
• 25:17
  I
• 25:18
  was
• 25:18
  waiting
• 25:18
  for
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  phone
• 25:19
  call.
• 25:20
  Guess
• 25:21
  what?
• 25:21
  The
• 25:21
  phone
• 25:21
  call
• 25:22
  from
• 25:22
  Oprah
• 25:22
  never
• 25:23
  came.
• 25:24
  She
• 25:24
  didn't
• 25:25
  get
• 25:25
  that.
• 25:28
  And
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  other
• 25:28
  thing
• 25:28
  that
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  always
• 25:29
  say
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  people,
• 25:30
  because
• 25:30
  I'm
• 25:30
  learning
• 25:31
  all
• 25:31
  about
• 25:31
  this.
• 25:32
  Being
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  children's
• 25:33
  book
• 25:33
  author
• 25:33
  also,
• 25:34
  is
• 25:35
  that
• 25:36
  you
• 25:37
  become
• 25:37
  an
• 25:37
  overnight
• 25:38
  success,
• 25:38
  but
• 25:39
  it
• 25:39
  takes
• 25:39
  20
• 25:39
  years.
• 25:40
  Oh,
• 25:41
  yes.
• 25:41
  So
• 25:42
  definitely.
• 25:43
  And
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  your
• 25:43
  point,
• 25:44
  you're
• 25:44
  learning.
• 25:45
  It's
• 25:45
  not
• 25:46
  instant
• 25:46
  fame
• 25:47
  and
• 25:47
  fortune.
• 25:48
  It
• 25:48
  definitely
• 25:49
  takes
• 25:49
  a
• 25:49
  lot
• 25:50
  of
• 25:50
  blood,
• 25:50
  sweat
• 25:50
  and
• 25:51
  tears.
• 25:51
  It's
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  lot
• 25:52
  of
• 25:52
  efforts.
• 25:53
  There
• 25:53
  were
• 25:53
  certain
• 25:53
  people
• 25:54
  that
• 25:54
  I'm
• 25:54
  following,
• 25:54
  and
• 25:54
  I
• 25:55
  see
• 25:55
  their
• 25:55
  posts
• 25:55
  and
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  think,
• 25:56
  my
• 25:56
  goodness,
• 25:56
  they
• 25:57
  must
• 25:57
  be.
• 25:57
  They're
• 25:57
  posting
• 25:58
  like
• 25:58
  mad
• 25:58
  and
• 25:59
  promoting
• 25:59
  and
• 26:00
  there
• 26:00
  really
• 26:00
  isn't
• 26:00
  a
• 26:00
  sort
• 26:01
  of
• 26:01
  a
• 26:01
  day
• 26:01
  off
• 26:01
  from
• 26:01
  it.
• 26:02
  And.
• 26:02
  Yeah,
• 26:02
  and
• 26:03
  it's
• 26:03
  at
• 26:03
  the
• 26:03
  big
• 26:03
  thing,
• 26:03
  I
• 26:04
  find.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  don't
• 26:05
  know
• 26:05
  about
• 26:05
  you,
• 26:05
  Allison,
• 26:05
  but
• 26:06
  I
• 26:06
  am
• 26:06
  finding
• 26:07
  that
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  lot
• 26:08
  of
• 26:08
  us
• 26:08
  belong
• 26:09
  to
• 26:09
  the
• 26:10
  children's
• 26:10
  book
• 26:11
  authors
• 26:12
  community.
• 26:13
  But
• 26:13
  we're
• 26:13
  all
• 26:14
  talking
• 26:14
  to
• 26:14
  each
• 26:14
  other,
• 26:16
  which
• 26:16
  is
• 26:16
  nice
• 26:17
  to
• 26:17
  have
• 26:17
  the
• 26:17
  support,
• 26:18
  but
• 26:18
  at
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  end
• 26:18
  of
• 26:19
  the
• 26:19
  day,
• 26:19
  yeah,
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  need
• 26:20
  to
• 26:20
  take
• 26:21
  it
• 26:21
  deeper.
• 26:21
  You
• 26:22
  need
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  actually
• 26:22
  get
• 26:22
  a
• 26:23
  reader,
• 26:23
  the
• 26:24
  children's
• 26:24
  reader
• 26:25
  and
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  parents,
• 26:26
  great
• 26:26
  grandparents,
• 26:27
  and.
• 26:28
  Absolutely.
• 26:28
  That's
• 26:29
  not
• 26:30
  as
• 26:30
  easy
• 26:30
  as
• 26:30
  people
• 26:31
  think.
• 26:31
  It's
• 26:31
  not.
• 26:32
  Because
• 26:32
  you
• 26:32
  feel
• 26:32
  like
• 26:32
  you're
• 26:33
  slightly
• 26:33
  preaching
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  converted,
• 26:34
  because
• 26:35
  everyone
• 26:35
  will
• 26:35
  go,
• 26:35
  absolutely.
• 26:36
  I
• 26:36
  feel
• 26:36
  your
• 26:36
  pain.
• 26:37
  I'm
• 26:37
  doing
• 26:37
  the
• 26:37
  same.
• 26:38
  Well
• 26:38
  done.
• 26:38
  You
• 26:38
  keep
• 26:39
  going
• 26:39
  and
• 26:39
  it's
• 26:40
  great,
• 26:40
  and
• 26:40
  it
• 26:40
  does
• 26:40
  keep
• 26:41
  you
• 26:41
  going.
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  want
• 26:42
  to
• 26:42
  talk
• 26:42
  to
• 26:42
  you
• 26:42
  a
• 26:43
  little
• 26:43
  bit
• 26:43
  about
• 26:43
  your
• 26:43
  illustrator
• 26:45
  because
• 26:45
  your
• 26:45
  book
• 26:46
  is
• 26:46
  so
• 26:46
  fun
• 26:47
  and
• 26:47
  it's
• 26:47
  got
• 26:48
  all
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  these
• 26:48
  different
• 26:49
  adventures
• 26:49
  of
• 26:51
  dad
• 26:51
  and
• 26:51
  Sonny
• 26:52
  dancing.
• 26:52
  Yeah,
• 26:53
  yeah.
• 26:53
  Tell
• 26:53
  us
• 26:53
  about
• 26:54
  your
• 26:54
  illustrator
• 26:56
  and
• 26:56
  could
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  provide
• 26:57
  some
• 26:57
  insight
• 26:58
  into
• 26:59
  why
• 26:59
  did
• 26:59
  you
• 26:59
  choose
• 27:00
  this
• 27:00
  illustrator?
• 27:02
  This
• 27:02
  is
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  thing
• 27:02
  with
• 27:03
  Cranport
• 27:03
  Milner.
• 27:03
  I
• 27:04
  think
• 27:04
  that
• 27:05
  they
• 27:06
  asked
• 27:06
  me
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  show
• 27:07
  them
• 27:07
  which
• 27:07
  kind
• 27:07
  of
• 27:07
  illustrations
• 27:08
  do
• 27:08
  I
• 27:08
  like.
• 27:09
  So
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  looked
• 27:10
  in
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  few
• 27:10
  books
• 27:11
  and
• 27:11
  I
• 27:11
  had
• 27:11
  a
• 27:12
  look
• 27:12
  and
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  saw
• 27:12
  this
• 27:12
  style.
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  like
• 27:13
  this
• 27:13
  style.
• 27:14
  I
• 27:14
  gave
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  whole
• 27:15
  brief
• 27:15
  of
• 27:15
  how
• 27:15
  I
• 27:17
  wanted
• 27:17
  Sunny
• 27:18
  to
• 27:18
  look
• 27:18
  and
• 27:18
  how
• 27:18
  I
• 27:19
  wanted
• 27:19
  Daddy
• 27:19
  to
• 27:19
  look,
• 27:20
  which,
• 27:20
  on
• 27:20
  a
• 27:20
  side
• 27:20
  note,
• 27:21
  interestingly,
• 27:21
  and
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  hadn't
• 27:22
  realized
• 27:23
  it,
• 27:23
  but
• 27:23
  Sunny
• 27:24
  is.
• 27:24
  Looks
• 27:24
  very
• 27:24
  much
• 27:25
  like
• 27:25
  my
• 27:25
  son
• 27:25
  when
• 27:25
  he
• 27:26
  was
• 27:26
  2.
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  hadn't
• 27:27
  put
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  two
• 27:28
  together.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  then
• 27:29
  another
• 27:29
  friend,
• 27:29
  she
• 27:29
  said
• 27:30
  to
• 27:30
  me,
• 27:30
  that
• 27:30
  looks
• 27:30
  like
• 27:31
  your
• 27:31
  dad
• 27:31
  in
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  70s.
• 27:32
  And
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  looked
• 27:33
  at
• 27:33
  that.
• 27:33
  Oh,
• 27:33
  my
• 27:33
  gosh.
• 27:34
  There's
• 27:34
  some
• 27:34
  weird
• 27:34
  subliminal
• 27:35
  thing
• 27:35
  going
• 27:36
  on
• 27:36
  there.
• 27:36
  I
• 27:36
  love
• 27:37
  it.
• 27:37
  But
• 27:37
  I
• 27:38
  suppose
• 27:38
  you
• 27:38
  pull
• 27:38
  these
• 27:38
  ideas
• 27:39
  because
• 27:39
  this
• 27:39
  is
• 27:39
  how
• 27:39
  I
• 27:39
  pictured
• 27:40
  them
• 27:41
  to
• 27:41
  be
• 27:41
  and
• 27:41
  everything
• 27:41
  else.
• 27:42
  And
• 27:42
  so
• 27:43
  Canthorpe
• 27:44
  paired
• 27:44
  me
• 27:45
  with
• 27:45
  Greg,
• 27:46
  who,
• 27:46
  actually,
• 27:47
  I've
• 27:47
  completely
• 27:48
  forgotten
• 27:48
  his
• 27:48
  last
• 27:48
  name
• 27:49
  is.
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  do
• 27:49
  apologize.
• 27:50
  But
• 27:51
  our
• 27:51
  correspondence
• 27:52
  was
• 27:52
  all
• 27:53
  through
• 27:53
  email,
• 27:54
  so
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  would
• 27:54
  give
• 27:55
  a
• 27:55
  brief,
• 27:55
  he
• 27:55
  would
• 27:56
  write
• 27:56
  back,
• 27:56
  he
• 27:56
  would
• 27:56
  do
• 27:56
  sketches,
• 27:57
  send
• 27:57
  them
• 27:57
  to
• 27:58
  me,
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  would
• 27:58
  say,
• 27:59
  oh,
• 27:59
  I
• 27:59
  need
• 27:59
  that
• 28:00
  to
• 28:00
  be
• 28:00
  bigger.
• 28:00
  That
• 28:00
  could
• 28:00
  be
• 28:01
  smaller.
• 28:01
  Can
• 28:01
  we
• 28:02
  have
• 28:02
  that?
• 28:02
  This
• 28:03
  darker?
• 28:04
  Can
• 28:04
  we
• 28:04
  move
• 28:05
  that
• 28:05
  over
• 28:05
  there?
• 28:05
  Blah,
• 28:06
  blah,
• 28:06
  blah.
• 28:07
  It
• 28:07
  just
• 28:07
  was
• 28:07
  literally
• 28:08
  that,
• 28:08
  the
• 28:09
  final
• 28:09
  moment
• 28:10
  where
• 28:10
  it
• 28:10
  was,
• 28:11
  oh,
• 28:11
  should
• 28:11
  we
• 28:11
  have
• 28:11
  them
• 28:13
  looking
• 28:13
  this
• 28:13
  way,
• 28:14
  that
• 28:14
  way?
• 28:14
  Should
• 28:14
  we
• 28:15
  have
• 28:15
  them
• 28:15
  piggybacking?
• 28:16
  Should
• 28:16
  we
• 28:16
  have
• 28:17
  this.
• 28:17
  Just
• 28:17
  all
• 28:17
  the
• 28:18
  final
• 28:18
  details.
• 28:19
  Did
• 28:19
  you
• 28:19
  send
• 28:19
  them
• 28:19
  any
• 28:20
  photos
• 28:20
  of
• 28:21
  certain
• 28:21
  circumstances?
• 28:22
  You
• 28:23
  said
• 28:23
  reminded
• 28:24
  of
• 28:24
  you,
• 28:24
  of
• 28:25
  what
• 28:25
  your
• 28:25
  dad
• 28:26
  might
• 28:26
  have
• 28:26
  looked
• 28:26
  like
• 28:26
  in
• 28:27
  the
• 28:27
  70s?
• 28:27
  Yeah.
• 28:27
  Was
• 28:28
  there
• 28:28
  any
• 28:28
  pictures
• 28:29
  of
• 28:29
  your
• 28:29
  dad
• 28:29
  from
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  70s?
• 28:30
  No.
• 28:31
  It
• 28:32
  was
• 28:32
  only
• 28:32
  when
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  book
• 28:33
  came
• 28:33
  out
• 28:33
  and
• 28:33
  I
• 28:34
  was
• 28:34
  like,
• 28:34
  oh,
• 28:34
  my
• 28:35
  word.
• 28:36
  I
• 28:36
  had
• 28:37
  two
• 28:37
  lots
• 28:37
  of
• 28:38
  friends.
• 28:40
  I
• 28:40
  love
• 28:41
  it.
• 28:41
  That's
• 28:41
  your
• 28:42
  son.
• 28:43
  But
• 28:43
  it's.
• 28:43
  But
• 28:43
  yeah,
• 28:44
  I
• 28:44
  wanted
• 28:44
  them
• 28:44
  to
• 28:44
  be
• 28:45
  barefoot
• 28:45
  because
• 28:45
  if
• 28:46
  you're
• 28:46
  at
• 28:46
  the
• 28:46
  home,
• 28:46
  in
• 28:46
  the
• 28:47
  playroom,
• 28:47
  you
• 28:47
  often
• 28:47
  are
• 28:48
  just
• 28:48
  barefoot,
• 28:49
  looking
• 28:49
  a
• 28:49
  little
• 28:49
  bit
• 28:49
  scraggly.
• 28:50
  You're
• 28:50
  at
• 28:50
  home,
• 28:51
  it's
• 28:51
  fine.
• 28:52
  You're
• 28:52
  just
• 28:53
  playing.
• 28:53
  And
• 28:53
  it's
• 28:53
  about
• 28:54
  getting
• 28:54
  down
• 28:54
  with
• 28:55
  your
• 28:55
  child
• 28:56
  and
• 28:56
  not
• 28:56
  worrying
• 28:56
  about
• 28:57
  looking
• 28:57
  perfect
• 28:58
  and
• 28:58
  Right.
• 28:59
  Just.
• 28:59
  It's
• 29:00
  just
• 29:00
  about
• 29:00
  having
• 29:01
  fun
• 29:02
  and
• 29:02
  being
• 29:02
  that
• 29:02
  child
• 29:03
  yourself.
• 29:04
  Because
• 29:04
  if
• 29:05
  it's
• 29:05
  fun,
• 29:05
  it
• 29:05
  just
• 29:06
  is
• 29:06
  fun.
• 29:06
  And
• 29:07
  if
• 29:07
  you
• 29:07
  can
• 29:07
  get
• 29:07
  over
• 29:07
  the
• 29:08
  embarrassment,
• 29:09
  because
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  see
• 29:09
  parents
• 29:10
  in
• 29:10
  my
• 29:10
  classes
• 29:11
  who.
• 29:11
  You
• 29:12
  can
• 29:12
  see
• 29:12
  this
• 29:12
  sort
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  embarrassment
• 29:13
  of
• 29:14
  what
• 29:14
  I'm
• 29:15
  asking
• 29:15
  them
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  do,
• 29:15
  whether
• 29:16
  it's
• 29:16
  being
• 29:16
  thunder
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  lightning
• 29:17
  or
• 29:18
  it's.
• 29:18
  It's.
• 29:18
  Come
• 29:19
  on,
• 29:19
  it's
• 29:19
  just
• 29:19
  us.
• 29:20
  No
• 29:20
  one's
• 29:21
  looking.
• 29:21
  Well,
• 29:21
  you
• 29:21
  know
• 29:22
  what
• 29:22
  they
• 29:22
  say,
• 29:22
  one
• 29:23
  of
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  ways
• 29:23
  to
• 29:24
  live
• 29:25
  a
• 29:25
  long
• 29:25
  life
• 29:26
  is
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  have
• 29:26
  younger
• 29:27
  friends.
• 29:29
  That's
• 29:29
  how
• 29:29
  I
• 29:30
  see
• 29:30
  my
• 29:30
  grandchildren,
• 29:31
  as
• 29:32
  my
• 29:32
  younger
• 29:32
  friends,
• 29:33
  because
• 29:33
  we
• 29:33
  ski
• 29:33
  together,
• 29:34
  we
• 29:34
  bike
• 29:34
  together,
• 29:35
  we.
• 29:35
  Oh,
• 29:36
  fantastic
• 29:36
  stories
• 29:37
  together.
• 29:37
  Yeah.
• 29:38
  So
• 29:38
  they
• 29:38
  keep
• 29:38
  me
• 29:38
  young
• 29:39
  at
• 29:39
  heart.
• 29:39
  And
• 29:40
  that's
• 29:40
  exactly.
• 29:41
  That's
• 29:41
  a
• 29:41
  lot.
• 29:41
  And
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  then
• 29:42
  don't
• 29:42
  lose
• 29:42
  that
• 29:42
  in
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  chart
• 29:43
  because
• 29:43
  you
• 29:44
  see
• 29:44
  how
• 29:44
  much
• 29:44
  fun
• 29:44
  it
• 29:44
  is
• 29:45
  to
• 29:45
  be
• 29:45
  with
• 29:45
  them
• 29:45
  and
• 29:45
  to
• 29:46
  hang
• 29:46
  out
• 29:46
  with
• 29:46
  them
• 29:46
  and
• 29:46
  to
• 29:47
  share
• 29:47
  their
• 29:47
  interests.
• 29:48
  It's
• 29:48
  really
• 29:48
  about
• 29:49
  sharing
• 29:50
  an
• 29:50
  interest,
• 29:50
  which
• 29:50
  is
• 29:51
  exactly
• 29:51
  what
• 29:51
  Daddy
• 29:52
  and
• 29:52
  Sonny
• 29:52
  are
• 29:52
  doing.
• 29:53
  Yeah.
• 29:54
  Animated
• 29:55
  movies
• 29:55
  with
• 29:56
  them.
• 29:56
  And
• 29:57
  people
• 29:57
  say,
• 29:57
  how
• 29:58
  could
• 29:58
  you
• 29:58
  sit
• 29:58
  through
• 29:58
  an
• 29:59
  animated
• 29:59
  movie?
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  am
• 30:00
  really
• 30:01
  as
• 30:01
  much
• 30:02
  involved
• 30:02
  in
• 30:02
  the
• 30:02
  movie
• 30:03
  as
• 30:03
  my
• 30:03
  grandkids.
• 30:05
  Absolutely.
• 30:06
  Yeah,
• 30:06
  for
• 30:06
  sure.
• 30:07
  I
• 30:07
  used
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  love.
• 30:08
  I
• 30:08
  loved
• 30:08
  watching
• 30:09
  all
• 30:09
  the
• 30:10
  kind
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  animations
• 30:11
  and
• 30:11
  all
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  cartoons
• 30:12
  and
• 30:12
  everything.
• 30:13
  And
• 30:13
  I
• 30:14
  don't
• 30:14
  think
• 30:14
  it
• 30:14
  ever
• 30:14
  really
• 30:15
  leaves
• 30:16
  you.
• 30:16
  My
• 30:16
  children
• 30:17
  in
• 30:17
  their
• 30:17
  20s
• 30:18
  and
• 30:18
  they
• 30:19
  still
• 30:19
  will
• 30:19
  revisit.
• 30:20
  Oh,
• 30:20
  we
• 30:20
  watch
• 30:21
  Moana
• 30:21
  at
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  weekend
• 30:22
  or
• 30:22
  we
• 30:22
  want
• 30:23
  anything.
• 30:24
  Just
• 30:25
  enjoy.
• 30:26
  Being
• 30:26
  a
• 30:26
  grown
• 30:27
  up
• 30:27
  is
• 30:28
  hard
• 30:28
  and
• 30:28
  it's.
• 30:29
  There's
• 30:29
  enough
• 30:29
  responsibility,
• 30:30
  isn't
• 30:30
  there?
• 30:31
  You
• 30:31
  want
• 30:31
  to
• 30:31
  Just
• 30:31
  keep
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  inner
• 30:32
  child,
• 30:32
  keep
• 30:33
  that
• 30:33
  youthful
• 30:34
  approach
• 30:34
  to
• 30:34
  life.
• 30:35
  No
• 30:35
  doubt
• 30:35
  about
• 30:35
  it.
• 30:35
  It
• 30:36
  keeps
• 30:36
  us
• 30:36
  going
• 30:37
  for
• 30:37
  sure.
• 30:38
  So
• 30:38
  I
• 30:38
  want
• 30:38
  to
• 30:38
  talk
• 30:39
  to
• 30:39
  you
• 30:39
  about
• 30:39
  your
• 30:39
  website
• 30:40
  because
• 30:40
  I
• 30:40
  looked
• 30:41
  at
• 30:41
  your
• 30:41
  website,
• 30:41
  of
• 30:42
  course,
• 30:42
  it's
• 30:42
  your
• 30:42
  dance
• 30:43
  studio,
• 30:43
  but
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  want
• 30:44
  to
• 30:44
  talk
• 30:45
  about
• 30:45
  the
• 30:45
  evolution
• 30:46
  of
• 30:46
  your
• 30:47
  website
• 30:48
  since
• 30:48
  you
• 30:49
  became
• 30:50
  a
• 30:50
  children's
• 30:50
  book
• 30:50
  author.
• 30:51
  So
• 30:51
  tell
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  audience
• 30:52
  how
• 30:53
  you.
• 30:53
  How
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  all
• 30:54
  came
• 30:54
  together
• 30:55
  and
• 30:55
  how
• 30:55
  you've
• 30:56
  expanded
• 30:57
  it
• 30:57
  and
• 30:58
  incorporated
• 30:59
  sunny
• 30:59
  steps
• 31:00
  into
• 31:00
  it.
• 31:01
  The
• 31:01
  website
• 31:01
  came
• 31:01
  about
• 31:02
  obviously,
• 31:02
  because
• 31:02
  I
• 31:02
  was
• 31:02
  doing
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  class
• 31:03
  and
• 31:03
  I
• 31:04
  wanted
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  promote
• 31:04
  it
• 31:05
  in,
• 31:05
  you
• 31:06
  know,
• 31:06
  another
• 31:06
  way
• 31:07
  so
• 31:07
  that
• 31:07
  people
• 31:07
  could
• 31:08
  find
• 31:08
  me,
• 31:08
  find
• 31:09
  out
• 31:09
  more
• 31:09
  about
• 31:10
  me
• 31:10
  a
• 31:10
  little
• 31:10
  bit,
• 31:11
  find
• 31:11
  out
• 31:11
  about
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  class,
• 31:12
  see
• 31:12
  where
• 31:12
  the
• 31:12
  venues
• 31:13
  and
• 31:13
  so
• 31:13
  forth
• 31:13
  are.
• 31:14
  And
• 31:14
  then
• 31:14
  with
• 31:14
  the
• 31:15
  children's
• 31:15
  book,
• 31:15
  we've
• 31:16
  added
• 31:16
  it
• 31:16
  on
• 31:17
  as
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  kind
• 31:18
  of.
• 31:18
  It
• 31:18
  is
• 31:18
  an
• 31:19
  add
• 31:19
  on.
• 31:19
  You
• 31:19
  can
• 31:19
  go
• 31:19
  to
• 31:19
  it
• 31:20
  and
• 31:20
  it
• 31:20
  links
• 31:20
  you
• 31:20
  straight
• 31:21
  to
• 31:21
  Waterstones,
• 31:22
  it
• 31:22
  links
• 31:22
  you
• 31:23
  straight
• 31:23
  to
• 31:23
  the
• 31:23
  bookshop
• 31:24
  and
• 31:24
  you
• 31:25
  can
• 31:25
  actually,
• 31:25
  that's
• 31:26
  it,
• 31:26
  put
• 31:26
  it
• 31:26
  in
• 31:26
  basket
• 31:27
  buy,
• 31:27
  boom,
• 31:28
  off
• 31:28
  we
• 31:28
  go.
• 31:29
  So
• 31:29
  it
• 31:29
  becomes
• 31:30
  part
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  the
• 31:30
  whole
• 31:31
  package
• 31:31
  at
• 31:31
  the
• 31:31
  moment
• 31:32
  of
• 31:32
  the
• 31:33
  class
• 31:33
  and
• 31:33
  the
• 31:33
  book.
• 31:34
  They're
• 31:34
  very
• 31:34
  much
• 31:34
  in
• 31:35
  line
• 31:35
  and
• 31:36
  it's
• 31:36
  just
• 31:36
  another
• 31:36
  avenue
• 31:37
  for
• 31:37
  potential
• 31:38
  sales.
• 31:39
  But
• 31:39
  potentially
• 31:40
  just
• 31:41
  showing
• 31:41
  people
• 31:41
  that
• 31:43
  there
• 31:43
  is
• 31:43
  that
• 31:44
  opportunity
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  buy
• 31:45
  a
• 31:45
  book
• 31:45
  for
• 31:45
  your
• 31:46
  child,
• 31:46
  that's
• 31:46
  just
• 31:46
  a
• 31:47
  bit
• 31:47
  different
• 31:48
  out
• 31:48
  there.
• 31:49
  I
• 31:49
  guess
• 31:49
  my
• 31:49
  big
• 31:50
  concern
• 31:50
  was
• 31:50
  always
• 31:50
  that
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  didn't
• 31:51
  want
• 31:51
  people
• 31:51
  to
• 31:52
  feel
• 31:52
  like
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  couldn't
• 31:53
  look
• 31:53
  at
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  book
• 31:53
  or
• 31:53
  you
• 31:53
  couldn't
• 31:54
  do
• 31:54
  the
• 31:54
  book
• 31:54
  if
• 31:54
  you
• 31:54
  didn't
• 31:55
  know
• 31:55
  anything
• 31:55
  about
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  class.
• 31:56
  So
• 31:57
  I
• 31:57
  think
• 31:57
  in
• 31:57
  that
• 31:57
  sense
• 31:58
  I'm
• 31:58
  not
• 31:59
  too
• 31:59
  worried
• 31:59
  that
• 31:59
  the
• 32:00
  book
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  class
• 32:00
  are
• 32:01
  going
• 32:01
  in
• 32:01
  separate
• 32:02
  pathways.
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  think
• 32:04
  it
• 32:04
  started
• 32:04
  off
• 32:05
  it's
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  do
• 32:05
  with
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  class,
• 32:06
  but
• 32:06
  actually
• 32:07
  I
• 32:07
  do
• 32:08
  need
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  book
• 32:08
  to
• 32:09
  stand
• 32:09
  on
• 32:09
  its
• 32:09
  own
• 32:10
  because
• 32:10
  otherwise
• 32:10
  if
• 32:11
  people
• 32:11
  think
• 32:11
  we
• 32:11
  don't
• 32:11
  do
• 32:11
  the
• 32:12
  class,
• 32:12
  we
• 32:12
  don't
• 32:12
  really
• 32:12
  know
• 32:12
  what
• 32:12
  you're
• 32:13
  on
• 32:13
  about.
• 32:13
  We
• 32:13
  don't
• 32:13
  really
• 32:13
  know
• 32:14
  that.
• 32:14
  But
• 32:14
  I
• 32:14
  think
• 32:15
  it
• 32:15
  is
• 32:15
  a
• 32:15
  standalone
• 32:16
  book.
• 32:17
  I
• 32:17
  think
• 32:17
  you
• 32:18
  can
• 32:18
  relate
• 32:18
  to
• 32:19
  it.
• 32:19
  You
• 32:19
  can
• 32:19
  appreciate
• 32:20
  it
• 32:20
  and
• 32:20
  get
• 32:21
  involved
• 32:21
  with
• 32:21
  it
• 32:22
  without
• 32:22
  having
• 32:22
  been
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  my
• 32:23
  dance
• 32:23
  class
• 32:24
  or
• 32:24
  seeing
• 32:24
  what
• 32:24
  we
• 32:24
  do
• 32:25
  in
• 32:25
  that.
• 32:25
  It's
• 32:25
  just
• 32:26
  there
• 32:26
  are
• 32:26
  overlaps.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  love
• 32:27
  the
• 32:28
  connection.
• 32:28
  It's
• 32:28
  a.
• 32:29
  It's
• 32:29
  just
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  great
• 32:30
  way
• 32:30
  to
• 32:30
  do
• 32:30
  that.
• 32:31
  And
• 32:31
  if
• 32:32
  it
• 32:32
  turns
• 32:32
  into
• 32:33
  standalone
• 32:34
  or
• 32:35
  not,
• 32:35
  it
• 32:36
  doesn't
• 32:36
  really
• 32:36
  matter
• 32:36
  one
• 32:37
  way
• 32:37
  or
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  other
• 32:37
  because
• 32:38
  it
• 32:38
  tends
• 32:38
  to
• 32:38
  support
• 32:39
  your
• 32:39
  business
• 32:40
  one
• 32:41
  way
• 32:41
  or
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  other.
• 32:42
  Exactly.
• 32:43
  And
• 32:44
  social
• 32:45
  media,
• 32:45
  you
• 32:45
  talked
• 32:46
  a
• 32:46
  little
• 32:46
  bit
• 32:46
  about
• 32:47
  your
• 32:47
  getting
• 32:48
  comfortable
• 32:48
  with
• 32:48
  social
• 32:49
  media.
• 32:49
  So
• 32:50
  tell
• 32:50
  us
• 32:50
  a
• 32:50
  little
• 32:50
  bit
• 32:51
  about
• 32:51
  your
• 32:51
  Instagram
• 32:52
  and
• 32:52
  Facebook
• 32:54
  and
• 32:55
  how
• 32:55
  are
• 32:55
  you
• 32:56
  using
• 32:56
  that
• 32:57
  to
• 32:57
  introduce
• 32:57
  your
• 32:58
  book
• 32:58
  and
• 32:59
  sell
• 32:59
  books.
• 33:00
  I've
• 33:01
  struggled
• 33:01
  with
• 33:01
  social
• 33:02
  media,
• 33:02
  I
• 33:02
  think,
• 33:02
  because
• 33:02
  I
• 33:03
  grew
• 33:03
  up
• 33:03
  in
• 33:03
  a
• 33:03
  time
• 33:03
  where
• 33:03
  it
• 33:04
  was
• 33:04
  probably
• 33:04
  called
• 33:04
  showing
• 33:05
  off.
• 33:05
  And
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  me,
• 33:07
  in
• 33:07
  lots
• 33:07
  of
• 33:07
  ways,
• 33:07
  you're
• 33:08
  going,
• 33:08
  look
• 33:08
  at
• 33:08
  me
• 33:08
  again,
• 33:09
  look
• 33:09
  at
• 33:09
  me
• 33:09
  now
• 33:09
  I'm
• 33:10
  over
• 33:10
  here.
• 33:11
  And
• 33:11
  it
• 33:12
  doesn't
• 33:12
  sit
• 33:12
  a
• 33:13
  hundred
• 33:13
  percent
• 33:13
  comfortably
• 33:14
  with
• 33:14
  me.
• 33:14
  And
• 33:14
  I've
• 33:14
  had
• 33:14
  to
• 33:14
  get
• 33:15
  over
• 33:15
  myself
• 33:15
  a
• 33:15
  little
• 33:16
  bit
• 33:16
  to
• 33:16
  go,
• 33:16
  no,
• 33:17
  it's
• 33:17
  important.
• 33:17
  It's
• 33:18
  all
• 33:18
  about
• 33:19
  media
• 33:19
  and
• 33:20
  production
• 33:21
  and
• 33:21
  that's
• 33:22
  how
• 33:22
  you're
• 33:22
  going
• 33:22
  to
• 33:22
  sell
• 33:22
  books.
• 33:23
  In
• 33:23
  this
• 33:23
  day
• 33:23
  and
• 33:23
  age,
• 33:24
  I'm
• 33:24
  much
• 33:24
  more
• 33:24
  kind
• 33:25
  of
• 33:25
  face
• 33:25
  to
• 33:25
  face
• 33:25
  person.
• 33:26
  I'd
• 33:26
  love
• 33:26
  to
• 33:26
  talk
• 33:26
  to
• 33:27
  you
• 33:27
  about
• 33:27
  the
• 33:27
  book
• 33:27
  and
• 33:27
  then
• 33:28
  hopefully
• 33:28
  buy
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  book.
• 33:29
  But
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  reach
• 33:30
  people,
• 33:30
  social
• 33:31
  media
• 33:31
  is
• 33:31
  the
• 33:32
  tool.
• 33:32
  So
• 33:33
  I
• 33:33
  started
• 33:33
  off
• 33:34
  and
• 33:35
  Facebook
• 33:35
  and
• 33:36
  Instagram
• 33:36
  were
• 33:36
  both
• 33:37
  kind
• 33:37
  of
• 33:37
  my
• 33:38
  class
• 33:38
  and
• 33:38
  the
• 33:38
  book.
• 33:38
  My
• 33:39
  class
• 33:39
  and
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  book.
• 33:40
  And
• 33:40
  then
• 33:41
  it
• 33:41
  was
• 33:41
  my
• 33:42
  niece,
• 33:42
  actually,
• 33:42
  who
• 33:43
  is
• 33:43
  very
• 33:43
  much
• 33:44
  on
• 33:44
  social
• 33:44
  media
• 33:44
  and
• 33:45
  is
• 33:45
  with
• 33:45
  her
• 33:46
  thousands
• 33:46
  of
• 33:46
  followers.
• 33:47
  She
• 33:48
  said,
• 33:48
  auntie,
• 33:48
  I
• 33:49
  don't
• 33:49
  really
• 33:49
  know
• 33:50
  what
• 33:51
  it
• 33:51
  is
• 33:51
  you're
• 33:51
  doing
• 33:51
  on
• 33:52
  there.
• 33:52
  If
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  was
• 33:52
  to
• 33:52
  look
• 33:52
  at
• 33:53
  you
• 33:53
  and
• 33:53
  your
• 33:53
  Instagram,
• 33:54
  I
• 33:54
  don't
• 33:55
  know
• 33:55
  what
• 33:55
  it
• 33:55
  is
• 33:55
  you're
• 33:56
  doing.
• 33:56
  You
• 33:56
  have
• 33:57
  children
• 33:57
  in
• 33:57
  your
• 33:57
  class
• 33:58
  and
• 33:58
  looking
• 33:59
  all
• 33:59
  happy
• 33:59
  and
• 33:59
  they're
• 34:00
  waving
• 34:00
  scarves
• 34:00
  around
• 34:01
  and
• 34:01
  looking
• 34:01
  very
• 34:01
  jolly.
• 34:02
  And
• 34:02
  then
• 34:02
  there's
• 34:03
  a
• 34:03
  book
• 34:03
  and
• 34:03
  I
• 34:03
  don't
• 34:04
  really
• 34:04
  know,
• 34:05
  so
• 34:05
  you
• 34:05
  need
• 34:06
  to
• 34:06
  put
• 34:06
  more
• 34:06
  of
• 34:06
  you
• 34:06
  on
• 34:07
  there.
• 34:07
  Which
• 34:08
  I
• 34:08
  was
• 34:08
  like,
• 34:08
  oh,
• 34:08
  no.
• 34:12
  But
• 34:12
  I
• 34:12
  love
• 34:13
  it.
• 34:13
  I've
• 34:13
  started
• 34:14
  a
• 34:14
  few
• 34:14
  kind
• 34:14
  of,
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  can't
• 34:15
  do
• 34:15
  a
• 34:15
  live.
• 34:15
  I'm
• 34:15
  yet
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  do
• 34:16
  a
• 34:16
  live.
• 34:16
  I've
• 34:17
  got
• 34:17
  to
• 34:17
  really
• 34:17
  build
• 34:18
  myself
• 34:18
  up
• 34:18
  to
• 34:18
  that.
• 34:18
  But
• 34:19
  I've
• 34:19
  done
• 34:19
  videos
• 34:20
  where
• 34:20
  it's
• 34:20
  like
• 34:20
  me
• 34:21
  and
• 34:21
  it
• 34:21
  takes
• 34:21
  about
• 34:21
  a
• 34:21
  thousand
• 34:22
  takes
• 34:22
  to
• 34:22
  get,
• 34:23
  oh,
• 34:23
  gosh,
• 34:23
  what
• 34:24
  am
• 34:24
  I
• 34:24
  doing?
• 34:25
  So
• 34:25
  I
• 34:26
  got
• 34:26
  what
• 34:26
  she
• 34:26
  said
• 34:27
  because
• 34:27
  it
• 34:27
  was
• 34:27
  something.
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  looked
• 34:28
  at
• 34:28
  it
• 34:28
  and
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  thought
• 34:29
  if
• 34:29
  somebody
• 34:29
  came
• 34:29
  across
• 34:30
  this
• 34:30
  page,
• 34:32
  would
• 34:32
  they
• 34:32
  know
• 34:33
  what
• 34:33
  it
• 34:33
  is?
• 34:33
  You've
• 34:34
  got
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  go,
• 34:34
  that's
• 34:35
  what
• 34:35
  it
• 34:35
  is.
• 34:35
  This
• 34:35
  person
• 34:36
  is
• 34:36
  selling
• 34:36
  this.
• 34:37
  Easy
• 34:38
  peasy.
• 34:38
  It's
• 34:38
  simple.
• 34:39
  I
• 34:39
  think
• 34:39
  I
• 34:39
  was
• 34:40
  making
• 34:40
  it
• 34:40
  too
• 34:40
  complicated.
• 34:41
  So
• 34:41
  I've
• 34:41
  made
• 34:41
  the
• 34:42
  decision
• 34:42
  that
• 34:43
  Instagram
• 34:44
  will
• 34:44
  be
• 34:45
  the
• 34:45
  but
• 34:46
  and
• 34:46
  my
• 34:47
  Facebook
• 34:47
  sunnyset's
• 34:48
  Facebook
• 34:48
  will
• 34:49
  be
• 34:49
  more
• 34:49
  about
• 34:49
  the
• 34:49
  class
• 34:50
  plus
• 34:50
  the
• 34:50
  book,
• 34:50
  but
• 34:51
  more
• 34:51
  the
• 34:51
  class
• 34:51
  as
• 34:52
  well,
• 34:52
  just
• 34:53
  so
• 34:53
  that
• 34:53
  it's
• 34:53
  easy
• 34:54
  for
• 34:54
  people
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  see
• 34:55
  what's
• 34:55
  what.
• 34:55
  Because
• 34:55
  on
• 34:56
  Instagram,
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  think
• 34:57
  it
• 34:57
  is
• 34:57
  more
• 34:57
  interest
• 34:58
  about
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  book.
• 34:58
  I
• 34:59
  don't
• 34:59
  get
• 35:00
  people
• 35:00
  asking
• 35:00
  me
• 35:01
  about
• 35:01
  my
• 35:01
  class
• 35:01
  on
• 35:02
  Instagram.
• 35:02
  And
• 35:02
  to
• 35:02
  your
• 35:03
  point,
• 35:03
  the
• 35:03
  thing
• 35:03
  about
• 35:04
  social
• 35:04
  media,
• 35:05
  it
• 35:05
  tends
• 35:05
  to
• 35:05
  be
• 35:06
  global.
• 35:07
  Exactly.
• 35:08
  Yeah.
• 35:08
  So
• 35:08
  if
• 35:08
  I'M
• 35:09
  staying
• 35:09
  in
• 35:10
  Alberta.
• 35:11
  You're
• 35:11
  not
• 35:11
  going
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  want
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  come
• 35:12
  to
• 35:13
  my
• 35:13
  job?
• 35:14
  I
• 35:14
  might
• 35:14
  like
• 35:14
  to,
• 35:15
  but.
• 35:15
  Yeah.
• 35:16
  I
• 35:16
  don't
• 35:16
  have
• 35:16
  a
• 35:17
  corporate
• 35:17
  jet.
• 35:18
  No.
• 35:18
  I
• 35:18
  was
• 35:18
  going
• 35:19
  to
• 35:19
  say,
• 35:19
  what
• 35:19
  an
• 35:19
  expensive
• 35:20
  way
• 35:20
  to
• 35:20
  travel.
• 35:21
  Yeah,
• 35:21
  it's
• 35:22
  exactly.
• 35:22
  So
• 35:23
  I
• 35:23
  think
• 35:23
  it
• 35:23
  was.
• 35:23
  Right,
• 35:24
  noted.
• 35:25
  I
• 35:25
  need.
• 35:25
  This
• 35:26
  is
• 35:26
  about
• 35:26
  the
• 35:26
  book.
• 35:27
  This
• 35:27
  is
• 35:27
  about
• 35:27
  promoting
• 35:28
  the
• 35:28
  book,
• 35:29
  because
• 35:29
  that
• 35:29
  is
• 35:29
  the
• 35:30
  global
• 35:30
  bit.
• 35:30
  That
• 35:30
  is
• 35:31
  hopefully
• 35:31
  somebody
• 35:32
  in
• 35:32
  Albuquerque
• 35:33
  or
• 35:34
  in
• 35:35
  Scotland
• 35:36
  or
• 35:36
  Wales
• 35:36
  or
• 35:37
  wherever
• 35:37
  the
• 35:37
  person
• 35:37
  is.
• 35:38
  Oh,
• 35:38
  but
• 35:38
  the
• 35:39
  book,
• 35:39
  I
• 35:39
  can
• 35:39
  get
• 35:39
  that
• 35:40
  because
• 35:40
  I
• 35:40
  can
• 35:40
  go
• 35:40
  online
• 35:41
  for
• 35:41
  sure.
• 35:42
  But
• 35:42
  I
• 35:42
  think
• 35:42
  just
• 35:43
  to
• 35:44
  the
• 35:44
  way.
• 35:44
  I
• 35:44
  think
• 35:45
  that
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  lot
• 35:46
  of
• 35:46
  parents
• 35:46
  shop
• 35:47
  now.
• 35:47
  I
• 35:47
  think
• 35:47
  there's
• 35:48
  this.
• 35:48
  And
• 35:48
  maybe
• 35:48
  it's
• 35:49
  just
• 35:49
  with
• 35:49
  social
• 35:50
  media,
• 35:50
  we're
• 35:50
  so
• 35:51
  impatient.
• 35:52
  Yes.
• 35:53
  So
• 35:53
  they
• 35:53
  need
• 35:53
  to
• 35:54
  just
• 35:54
  see
• 35:55
  it.
• 35:55
  Quiet
• 35:55
  click,
• 35:56
  one
• 35:56
  click,
• 35:56
  boom.
• 35:57
  It's.
• 35:57
  Do
• 35:57
  you
• 35:57
  know
• 35:57
  what
• 35:58
  I
• 35:58
  mean?
• 35:58
  I
• 35:58
  am
• 35:58
  ever
• 35:59
  going
• 35:59
  to
• 35:59
  a
• 35:59
  bookshelf.
• 36:01
  If
• 36:01
  you
• 36:01
  look
• 36:01
  at
• 36:01
  Amazon,
• 36:02
  for
• 36:02
  example,
• 36:03
  now
• 36:04
  it's
• 36:04
  one
• 36:04
  click
• 36:05
  and
• 36:05
  boom,
• 36:06
  it's
• 36:06
  done.
• 36:07
  We're
• 36:07
  so
• 36:08
  impatient.
• 36:08
  Yeah.
• 36:09
  We're
• 36:09
  so
• 36:09
  impatient
• 36:10
  to
• 36:10
  do
• 36:10
  anything
• 36:11
  for
• 36:11
  sure.
• 36:11
  So
• 36:12
  you've
• 36:12
  got
• 36:12
  to
• 36:12
  get
• 36:12
  that
• 36:13
  kind
• 36:13
  of.
• 36:13
  This
• 36:13
  is
• 36:13
  a
• 36:14
  book
• 36:14
  and
• 36:14
  this
• 36:14
  is.
• 36:14
  It
• 36:15
  could
• 36:15
  be
• 36:15
  fun.
• 36:15
  You've
• 36:16
  got
• 36:16
  to
• 36:16
  do
• 36:16
  this.
• 36:16
  So
• 36:17
  Instagram.
• 36:17
  I'm
• 36:18
  concentrating
• 36:18
  more
• 36:19
  on
• 36:19
  that
• 36:19
  because.
• 36:21
  Yeah,
• 36:21
  I
• 36:21
  want
• 36:22
  to
• 36:22
  spend
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  little
• 36:22
  more
• 36:23
  time
• 36:23
  on
• 36:23
  your
• 36:23
  book
• 36:23
  and
• 36:23
  I
• 36:24
  want
• 36:24
  to
• 36:24
  talk
• 36:24
  about
• 36:25
  character
• 36:26
  development
• 36:27
  because
• 36:27
  you've
• 36:27
  really
• 36:27
  got
• 36:28
  two
• 36:28
  main
• 36:28
  characters
• 36:29
  in
• 36:30
  your
• 36:30
  book.
• 36:30
  So
• 36:30
  you've
• 36:31
  got
• 36:31
  Sonny
• 36:31
  and
• 36:32
  his
• 36:32
  dad.
• 36:33
  And
• 36:33
  I
• 36:34
  know
• 36:34
  you
• 36:34
  mentioned,
• 36:35
  and
• 36:35
  I
• 36:36
  love
• 36:36
  what
• 36:36
  you've
• 36:36
  done
• 36:36
  here,
• 36:37
  you
• 36:37
  want
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  encourage
• 36:38
  young
• 36:39
  boys
• 36:39
  and
• 36:40
  their
• 36:40
  parents
• 36:40
  to
• 36:41
  not
• 36:41
  be
• 36:42
  afraid
• 36:42
  of,
• 36:43
  you
• 36:43
  know,
• 36:43
  getting
• 36:44
  up
• 36:44
  and
• 36:44
  dancing
• 36:45
  and
• 36:45
  having
• 36:45
  fun
• 36:46
  and
• 36:46
  being
• 36:47
  an
• 36:47
  entertainer.
• 36:48
  Take
• 36:48
  us
• 36:49
  a
• 36:49
  little
• 36:49
  bit
• 36:49
  deeper
• 36:49
  into
• 36:50
  your
• 36:50
  approach
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  that
• 36:51
  character
• 36:52
  development.
• 36:54
  I
• 36:54
  think
• 36:54
  the
• 36:55
  moment
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  saw
• 36:56
  Sonny
• 36:57
  steps
• 36:57
  was
• 36:57
  going
• 36:57
  to
• 36:57
  be
• 36:58
  a
• 36:58
  character.
• 36:58
  I
• 36:58
  just
• 36:59
  knew
• 36:59
  it
• 36:59
  was
• 36:59
  actually.
• 37:00
  It
• 37:00
  was
• 37:00
  just
• 37:00
  instantaneous.
• 37:01
  It
• 37:01
  was
• 37:01
  like,
• 37:02
  he's
• 37:02
  a
• 37:02
  boy
• 37:03
  and
• 37:04
  he's
• 37:04
  going
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  be
• 37:04
  a
• 37:04
  boy
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  he's
• 37:05
  going
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  be
• 37:05
  with
• 37:05
  his
• 37:05
  daddy.
• 37:07
  Because
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  get
• 37:07
  majority,
• 37:08
  I
• 37:08
  would
• 37:08
  say
• 37:08
  90%
• 37:10
  of
• 37:10
  people
• 37:11
  who
• 37:11
  come
• 37:11
  into
• 37:11
  my
• 37:11
  class
• 37:12
  are
• 37:12
  girls
• 37:13
  with
• 37:13
  the
• 37:14
  mum
• 37:14
  or
• 37:14
  the
• 37:14
  grandma
• 37:15
  or
• 37:15
  the
• 37:15
  nanny.
• 37:17
  And
• 37:17
  then
• 37:17
  I'll
• 37:17
  get
• 37:17
  every
• 37:18
  now
• 37:18
  and
• 37:18
  again
• 37:18
  a
• 37:18
  dad.
• 37:19
  And
• 37:20
  I've
• 37:20
  never
• 37:20
  seen
• 37:20
  people
• 37:21
  look
• 37:21
  more
• 37:21
  awkward
• 37:22
  in
• 37:22
  their
• 37:22
  lives.
• 37:23
  They
• 37:23
  come
• 37:23
  in
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  they're
• 37:24
  just
• 37:25
  like,
• 37:25
  oh,
• 37:25
  my
• 37:25
  gosh.
• 37:28
  And
• 37:28
  it's
• 37:28
  so
• 37:28
  awkward.
• 37:29
  And
• 37:29
  I
• 37:29
  try
• 37:30
  with
• 37:30
  all
• 37:30
  my
• 37:31
  everything,
• 37:32
  all
• 37:32
  my
• 37:32
  being,
• 37:32
  to
• 37:32
  just
• 37:33
  make
• 37:33
  them
• 37:33
  feel
• 37:33
  so
• 37:34
  welcome,
• 37:34
  so
• 37:35
  comfortable,
• 37:36
  because
• 37:36
  it's
• 37:36
  like,
• 37:37
  you
• 37:37
  know
• 37:37
  what?
• 37:37
  We're
• 37:37
  just.
• 37:38
  It's
• 37:38
  just
• 37:39
  dance.
• 37:39
  It's
• 37:40
  just
• 37:40
  movement.
• 37:41
  Right.
• 37:41
  It's
• 37:42
  whether
• 37:42
  we're
• 37:42
  skipping
• 37:43
  or
• 37:43
  whether
• 37:44
  we're
• 37:44
  stomping
• 37:45
  or
• 37:45
  whether
• 37:45
  we're
• 37:46
  turning
• 37:46
  to
• 37:47
  feed
• 37:47
  the
• 37:47
  birds.
• 37:47
  And
• 37:47
  we're
• 37:48
  just
• 37:48
  doing
• 37:48
  beautiful
• 37:49
  soft,
• 37:49
  gentle
• 37:49
  arms
• 37:50
  which
• 37:50
  are
• 37:50
  quite
• 37:50
  balletic
• 37:51
  in
• 37:51
  movement.
• 37:52
  Right.
• 37:52
  It's
• 37:53
  movement.
• 37:53
  It's,
• 37:54
  it's.
• 37:54
  That's
• 37:54
  all
• 37:54
  it
• 37:55
  is.
• 37:55
  But
• 37:56
  yeah,
• 37:56
  the
• 37:56
  dads,
• 37:57
  I
• 37:57
  think
• 37:58
  I've
• 37:58
  had
• 37:58
  one
• 37:58
  dad
• 37:58
  in
• 37:59
  all
• 37:59
  the
• 37:59
  20
• 37:59
  years
• 37:59
  is
• 38:00
  that
• 38:00
  he
• 38:00
  came
• 38:00
  in
• 38:00
  and
• 38:00
  my
• 38:01
  goodness,
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  man
• 38:01
  was
• 38:02
  gung
• 38:02
  ho.
• 38:02
  He
• 38:02
  was
• 38:03
  front
• 38:03
  and
• 38:03
  center
• 38:04
  and
• 38:04
  just.
• 38:05
  I
• 38:05
  love
• 38:05
  this.
• 38:05
  This
• 38:06
  is
• 38:06
  so
• 38:06
  good.
• 38:07
  Oh
• 38:07
  my
• 38:07
  gosh.
• 38:08
  Yes.
• 38:08
  You
• 38:08
  get
• 38:09
  it.
• 38:09
  But
• 38:09
  for
• 38:10
  the
• 38:10
  most
• 38:10
  night
• 38:10
  dads
• 38:11
  can
• 38:11
  be
• 38:11
  a
• 38:11
  bit
• 38:11
  awkward
• 38:12
  and
• 38:12
  a
• 38:12
  bit.
• 38:12
  I've
• 38:12
  had
• 38:13
  them
• 38:13
  sit
• 38:13
  at
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  side
• 38:13
  going,
• 38:14
  they'll
• 38:14
  do
• 38:14
  it
• 38:14
  on
• 38:14
  their
• 38:15
  own.
• 38:15
  And
• 38:15
  I'm
• 38:15
  thinking,
• 38:16
  come
• 38:17
  join.
• 38:17
  So
• 38:18
  waiting
• 38:18
  for
• 38:18
  me.
• 38:21
  It
• 38:21
  sounds
• 38:21
  silly
• 38:21
  because
• 38:22
  there
• 38:22
  was
• 38:22
  no
• 38:22
  sort
• 38:22
  of
• 38:22
  in
• 38:23
  depth
• 38:23
  thing
• 38:23
  about
• 38:23
  it.
• 38:23
  It
• 38:24
  was,
• 38:24
  oh
• 38:24
  my
• 38:24
  gosh,
• 38:25
  he
• 38:25
  is
• 38:25
  the
• 38:25
  boy
• 38:26
  and
• 38:26
  he's
• 38:26
  with
• 38:26
  his
• 38:26
  daddy.
• 38:27
  So
• 38:27
  that
• 38:27
  was,
• 38:27
  it
• 38:28
  was
• 38:28
  just
• 38:28
  cemented.
• 38:29
  It
• 38:29
  was
• 38:29
  like.
• 38:30
  Let's
• 38:30
  jump
• 38:31
  into
• 38:31
  the
• 38:31
  theme
• 38:31
  of
• 38:31
  your
• 38:32
  book
• 38:32
  a
• 38:32
  bit
• 38:32
  more.
• 38:33
  So
• 38:33
  let's
• 38:33
  discuss
• 38:34
  your
• 38:34
  theme.
• 38:35
  And
• 38:35
  how
• 38:36
  would
• 38:36
  you
• 38:36
  describe
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  theme
• 38:38
  as
• 38:38
  even
• 38:39
  an
• 38:39
  extension
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  your
• 38:41
  life?
• 38:43
  Well,
• 38:43
  I
• 38:43
  suppose
• 38:44
  because
• 38:44
  it's
• 38:44
  been
• 38:44
  born
• 38:45
  out
• 38:45
  of
• 38:47
  my
• 38:47
  own
• 38:47
  experience
• 38:48
  with
• 38:48
  my
• 38:48
  children
• 38:49
  which
• 38:49
  felt
• 38:50
  totally
• 38:50
  normal.
• 38:51
  My
• 38:52
  husband
• 38:52
  would
• 38:52
  come
• 38:52
  home
• 38:52
  from
• 38:53
  work
• 38:53
  and
• 38:54
  be
• 38:54
  like,
• 38:54
  oh,
• 38:54
  what
• 38:54
  are
• 38:54
  we
• 38:54
  today?
• 38:55
  And
• 38:55
  I'd
• 38:55
  be
• 38:55
  like,
• 38:55
  today
• 38:56
  we're,
• 38:56
  we're
• 38:56
  doing
• 38:57
  this,
• 38:57
  did
• 38:57
  this.
• 38:57
  And
• 38:57
  it
• 38:58
  just
• 38:58
  was.
• 38:58
  Yeah,
• 38:59
  it's
• 38:59
  just
• 38:59
  been
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  way
• 39:00
  we
• 39:00
  raised
• 39:00
  the
• 39:01
  children.
• 39:01
  It's
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  way
• 39:02
  we
• 39:02
  were
• 39:02
  with
• 39:02
  the
• 39:02
  children.
• 39:03
  Our
• 39:03
  house
• 39:03
  has
• 39:04
  always
• 39:04
  been
• 39:04
  filled
• 39:04
  with
• 39:04
  music
• 39:05
  and
• 39:05
  dance
• 39:06
  and
• 39:07
  creativity
• 39:08
  in
• 39:08
  that
• 39:09
  way.
• 39:09
  So
• 39:09
  it's
• 39:10
  just.
• 39:11
  To
• 39:11
  me,
• 39:12
  it's
• 39:12
  a
• 39:12
  really
• 39:13
  natural
• 39:13
  next
• 39:14
  step
• 39:15
  and
• 39:16
  I
• 39:16
  would
• 39:17
  love
• 39:17
  to
• 39:17
  think
• 39:17
  I
• 39:17
  can
• 39:18
  still
• 39:18
  keep
• 39:18
  teaching
• 39:19
  for
• 39:20
  a
• 39:20
  while
• 39:20
  yet
• 39:20
  and
• 39:21
  still
• 39:21
  enjoy
• 39:22
  it
• 39:22
  and.
• 39:23
  But
• 39:23
  that's
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  thing.
• 39:25
  Yeah.
• 39:26
  Movement
• 39:26
  is
• 39:26
  so
• 39:26
  important
• 39:27
  to
• 39:27
  you.
• 39:27
  It
• 39:28
  is
• 39:28
  so
• 39:28
  important.
• 39:28
  Not
• 39:28
  only
• 39:29
  your
• 39:29
  physical
• 39:29
  well
• 39:30
  being
• 39:30
  but
• 39:30
  your
• 39:30
  mental
• 39:31
  well
• 39:31
  being.
• 39:31
  This
• 39:32
  is
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  other
• 39:32
  thing
• 39:32
  is
• 39:33
  that
• 39:33
  I
• 39:33
  think
• 39:33
  it's.
• 39:34
  It
• 39:35
  is
• 39:35
  so
• 39:35
  important.
• 39:35
  It's
• 39:36
  so
• 39:36
  good
• 39:36
  for
• 39:36
  us.
• 39:37
  It's
• 39:37
  good
• 39:37
  for
• 39:38
  mental
• 39:38
  health.
• 39:40
  Ten
• 39:40
  years
• 39:40
  from
• 39:40
  now
• 39:41
  you'll
• 39:41
  be
• 39:41
  teaching
• 39:41
  at
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  old
• 39:42
  folks
• 39:42
  home.
• 39:46
  I
• 39:47
  am
• 39:47
  already.
• 39:49
  It's
• 39:50
  one
• 39:50
  of
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  things
• 39:51
  I
• 39:51
  do.
• 39:51
  I
• 39:51
  already
• 39:52
  do
• 39:52
  that.
• 39:54
  Yeah.
• 39:55
  Do
• 39:55
  our
• 39:55
  exercises.
• 39:56
  So
• 39:57
  I
• 39:57
  want
• 39:57
  to
• 39:57
  pick
• 39:57
  up
• 39:57
  on
• 39:58
  that.
• 39:58
  On
• 39:58
  the
• 39:58
  teaching
• 39:59
  theme.
• 39:59
  Talk
• 40:00
  to
• 40:00
  us
• 40:00
  a
• 40:00
  bit
• 40:00
  more
• 40:01
  about
• 40:01
  the
• 40:01
  central
• 40:01
  teaching.
• 40:03
  What's
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  lesson
• 40:03
  that
• 40:04
  you're
• 40:04
  trying
• 40:04
  to
• 40:05
  convey
• 40:05
  through
• 40:06
  your
• 40:06
  book?
• 40:08
  I
• 40:08
  think
• 40:08
  it's
• 40:09
  about
• 40:10
  anything
• 40:10
  is
• 40:10
  possible.
• 40:11
  Like
• 40:11
  you
• 40:11
  can
• 40:12
  just
• 40:12
  believe.
• 40:13
  Just
• 40:13
  go
• 40:13
  for
• 40:13
  it.
• 40:14
  If
• 40:14
  you
• 40:15
  my.
• 40:15
  When
• 40:15
  My
• 40:15
  son
• 40:15
  was
• 40:15
  little,
• 40:16
  he
• 40:16
  kept
• 40:16
  telling
• 40:16
  us,
• 40:17
  I
• 40:17
  want
• 40:17
  to
• 40:17
  be
• 40:17
  a
• 40:17
  cheater
• 40:17
  when
• 40:18
  I
• 40:18
  grow
• 40:18
  up.
• 40:18
  Because
• 40:19
  he
• 40:19
  could
• 40:19
  run.
• 40:19
  He
• 40:19
  ran
• 40:20
  really
• 40:20
  fast.
• 40:20
  He
• 40:20
  was
• 40:21
  really
• 40:21
  good
• 40:21
  at
• 40:21
  running.
• 40:22
  And
• 40:22
  he
• 40:22
  said,
• 40:22
  I'm
• 40:22
  going
• 40:23
  to
• 40:23
  be
• 40:23
  a
• 40:23
  cheater.
• 40:23
  I
• 40:24
  was
• 40:24
  like,
• 40:24
  fantastic,
• 40:25
  fantastic.
• 40:26
  I
• 40:27
  love
• 40:27
  that
• 40:27
  you
• 40:27
  be
• 40:28
  a
• 40:28
  cheater.
• 40:28
  If
• 40:28
  you
• 40:28
  want
• 40:29
  to
• 40:29
  be
• 40:29
  a
• 40:29
  cheater,
• 40:29
  you
• 40:29
  know,
• 40:30
  you
• 40:30
  run
• 40:30
  fast
• 40:30
  like
• 40:30
  a
• 40:31
  cheater.
• 40:32
  It's
• 40:32
  just
• 40:33
  indulging.
• 40:34
  It's
• 40:35
  just
• 40:35
  saying
• 40:35
  you.
• 40:36
  It's
• 40:36
  acceptable.
• 40:37
  I
• 40:37
  love
• 40:37
  what
• 40:38
  you're
• 40:38
  doing.
• 40:38
  If
• 40:39
  this
• 40:39
  is
• 40:39
  how
• 40:39
  you
• 40:39
  express
• 40:39
  yourself,
• 40:40
  if
• 40:40
  this
• 40:40
  is
• 40:41
  the
• 40:41
  way
• 40:41
  you
• 40:42
  see
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  world,
• 40:43
  way
• 40:43
  that
• 40:44
  you
• 40:44
  hear
• 40:44
  rhythms.
• 40:45
  Yes.
• 40:46
  I
• 40:46
  think
• 40:47
  it's
• 40:47
  just
• 40:47
  that,
• 40:48
  isn't
• 40:48
  it?
• 40:48
  It's
• 40:48
  just
• 40:49
  that
• 40:49
  kind
• 40:49
  of
• 40:49
  that
• 40:49
  heartbeat
• 40:50
  within
• 40:50
  us.
• 40:50
  That's
• 40:50
  what
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  love
• 40:51
  about
• 40:51
  children's
• 40:52
  book
• 40:52
  authors,
• 40:52
  is
• 40:53
  so
• 40:53
  many
• 40:54
  positive
• 40:54
  messages.
• 40:55
  And
• 40:55
  your.
• 40:55
  Your
• 40:56
  message
• 40:56
  there
• 40:57
  is
• 40:58
  right
• 40:58
  on
• 40:58
  the
• 40:58
  button.
• 40:59
  Oh,
• 40:59
  thanks.
• 41:00
  Appreciate
• 41:00
  that.
• 41:01
  I
• 41:01
  know
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  talked
• 41:02
  to
• 41:02
  us
• 41:02
  about
• 41:03
  one,
• 41:04
  possibly
• 41:05
  two
• 41:05
  more
• 41:05
  books
• 41:06
  in
• 41:06
  the
• 41:07
  Sunny
• 41:07
  Steps
• 41:07
  book
• 41:08
  series.
• 41:09
  Yeah.
• 41:09
  I'd
• 41:09
  like
• 41:09
  you
• 41:10
  to
• 41:10
  talk
• 41:10
  about
• 41:11
  in
• 41:11
  the
• 41:11
  beginning
• 41:11
  and
• 41:12
  how
• 41:12
  you've
• 41:12
  developed.
• 41:13
  So
• 41:13
  I'm
• 41:13
  interested
• 41:13
  in.
• 41:14
  Could
• 41:14
  you
• 41:14
  share
• 41:14
  your
• 41:15
  insights
• 41:15
  into
• 41:16
  your
• 41:16
  development
• 41:17
  and
• 41:17
  your
• 41:18
  writing
• 41:18
  process
• 41:18
  for
• 41:19
  your
• 41:19
  children's
• 41:19
  books?
• 41:20
  Tell
• 41:21
  us
• 41:21
  a
• 41:21
  little
• 41:21
  bit
• 41:21
  about
• 41:21
  that.
• 41:22
  So
• 41:23
  with
• 41:23
  this
• 41:23
  one
• 41:23
  here,
• 41:23
  Sunny
• 41:24
  Steps,
• 41:24
  Luster
• 41:24
  Dance,
• 41:25
  I
• 41:25
  had
• 41:25
  all
• 41:26
  the
• 41:26
  ideas
• 41:26
  that
• 41:26
  I
• 41:26
  wanted
• 41:27
  to
• 41:27
  potentially
• 41:27
  use.
• 41:28
  And
• 41:29
  obviously,
• 41:29
  you
• 41:29
  can
• 41:29
  only
• 41:30
  fit
• 41:30
  a
• 41:31
  certain
• 41:31
  amount
• 41:31
  within
• 41:32
  a
• 41:32
  book,
• 41:32
  so
• 41:33
  you're
• 41:33
  limited.
• 41:34
  You
• 41:34
  have
• 41:34
  to
• 41:34
  cut
• 41:34
  this
• 41:34
  bit
• 41:35
  out.
• 41:35
  Yeah.
• 41:35
  Because
• 41:35
  generally
• 41:36
  a
• 41:36
  children's
• 41:36
  book
• 41:36
  is
• 41:37
  five
• 41:37
  hundred
• 41:37
  to
• 41:37
  a
• 41:37
  thousand
• 41:38
  words.
• 41:38
  Exactly.
• 41:39
  And
• 41:39
  also
• 41:39
  a
• 41:40
  certain
• 41:40
  amount
• 41:40
  of
• 41:40
  pages
• 41:41
  and
• 41:41
  you've
• 41:42
  got
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  try
• 41:42
  and
• 41:42
  convey
• 41:43
  beginning,
• 41:44
  middle,
• 41:44
  end
• 41:45
  within
• 41:46
  that.
• 41:46
  Yes.
• 41:47
  So
• 41:47
  I
• 41:47
  literally
• 41:48
  looked
• 41:48
  at
• 41:49
  the
• 41:49
  certain
• 41:49
  ideas
• 41:50
  that
• 41:50
  I
• 41:50
  wanted
• 41:50
  that
• 41:51
  I
• 41:51
  felt
• 41:51
  went
• 41:51
  well
• 41:52
  together
• 41:52
  and
• 41:53
  that
• 41:53
  would
• 41:53
  link
• 41:54
  really
• 41:54
  nicely
• 41:55
  together.
• 41:55
  But
• 41:56
  equally,
• 41:56
  with
• 41:56
  each
• 41:56
  page
• 41:57
  turn,
• 41:57
  I
• 41:57
  wanted
• 41:58
  it
• 41:58
  just
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  be
• 41:58
  a.
• 41:59
  And
• 41:59
  then
• 41:59
  they're.
• 42:00
  Oh,
• 42:00
  they're
• 42:00
  here.
• 42:00
  So
• 42:01
  there's
• 42:01
  that.
• 42:01
  It's
• 42:02
  like
• 42:02
  a
• 42:02
  whole
• 42:02
  different
• 42:03
  thing.
• 42:03
  And
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  think
• 42:03
  the
• 42:03
  best
• 42:04
  one
• 42:04
  for
• 42:04
  me
• 42:04
  is
• 42:04
  when
• 42:04
  you
• 42:04
  turn
• 42:05
  the
• 42:05
  page
• 42:05
  and
• 42:05
  you're
• 42:05
  suddenly
• 42:06
  like
• 42:06
  autumn
• 42:06
  leaves.
• 42:07
  It's.
• 42:07
  No
• 42:07
  one
• 42:07
  would
• 42:07
  have
• 42:07
  thought
• 42:07
  that.
• 42:08
  No
• 42:08
  one
• 42:08
  said,
• 42:08
  oh,
• 42:09
  my
• 42:09
  goodness,
• 42:09
  autumn
• 42:10
  leaves.
• 42:10
  Here
• 42:10
  they
• 42:10
  go.
• 42:13
  So
• 42:13
  it.
• 42:13
  For
• 42:13
  me,
• 42:14
  I've
• 42:14
  put
• 42:14
  those
• 42:15
  ideas
• 42:15
  together,
• 42:15
  they
• 42:16
  felt
• 42:16
  cohesive,
• 42:17
  they
• 42:17
  felt
• 42:18
  fun
• 42:19
  with
• 42:19
  a
• 42:19
  little
• 42:19
  bit
• 42:19
  of
• 42:19
  a
• 42:19
  twist
• 42:20
  here
• 42:20
  and
• 42:20
  there
• 42:20
  that
• 42:20
  you
• 42:21
  didn't
• 42:21
  expect.
• 42:22
  And
• 42:22
  then
• 42:22
  on
• 42:23
  the
• 42:23
  final
• 42:23
  page,
• 42:24
  if
• 42:24
  you
• 42:24
  notice
• 42:25
  that
• 42:25
  when
• 42:25
  they
• 42:25
  look
• 42:25
  out
• 42:26
  of
• 42:26
  the
• 42:26
  playroom
• 42:26
  window,
• 42:27
  they're
• 42:28
  looking
• 42:28
  at,
• 42:28
  like,
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  ocean
• 42:29
  and
• 42:29
  then
• 42:29
  there's
• 42:30
  a
• 42:30
  sailing
• 42:30
  ship.
• 42:31
  So
• 42:31
  to
• 42:31
  me,
• 42:32
  that's
• 42:32
  where
• 42:32
  the
• 42:32
  next
• 42:33
  story
• 42:33
  will
• 42:34
  pick
• 42:34
  up.
• 42:34
  Good
• 42:35
  for
• 42:35
  you,
• 42:35
  besides
• 42:36
  your
• 42:36
  own
• 42:36
  personal
• 42:37
  experience,
• 42:38
  like
• 42:38
  drawing
• 42:39
  on
• 42:39
  your
• 42:39
  own
• 42:39
  personal
• 42:40
  experience
• 42:41
  with
• 42:41
  your
• 42:42
  current
• 42:42
  book
• 42:42
  and
• 42:42
  the
• 42:43
  next
• 42:43
  couple
• 42:43
  of
• 42:43
  books
• 42:44
  that
• 42:44
  are
• 42:44
  coming.
• 42:44
  Are
• 42:45
  you
• 42:45
  going
• 42:45
  to
• 42:45
  conduct
• 42:46
  any
• 42:46
  other
• 42:47
  research
• 42:48
  into
• 42:49
  the
• 42:50
  subject
• 42:50
  matter
• 42:50
  or
• 42:51
  how
• 42:51
  are
• 42:51
  you
• 42:51
  coming
• 42:51
  up
• 42:52
  with
• 42:52
  the
• 42:52
  content
• 42:53
  for
• 42:53
  the
• 42:53
  books?
• 42:54
  So
• 42:55
  the
• 42:55
  contents
• 42:55
  are
• 42:56
  based
• 42:56
  on
• 42:56
  what
• 42:57
  I
• 42:57
  have
• 42:57
  done
• 42:58
  in
• 42:58
  my
• 42:59
  classes.
• 43:00
  It's
• 43:00
  not
• 43:01
  all
• 43:01
  of
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  ideas
• 43:02
  because
• 43:02
  I
• 43:02
  think
• 43:02
  I.
• 43:03
  I
• 43:03
  don't
• 43:03
  know,
• 43:04
  we'll
• 43:04
  see
• 43:04
  if
• 43:05
  I
• 43:05
  can
• 43:05
  do
• 43:05
  more,
• 43:05
  but
• 43:06
  I've
• 43:06
  thought
• 43:07
  three
• 43:07
  books
• 43:07
  is
• 43:07
  a
• 43:08
  good
• 43:09
  amount.
• 43:10
  So
• 43:10
  these
• 43:10
  are
• 43:10
  the
• 43:10
  things
• 43:11
  that
• 43:11
  I
• 43:11
  would
• 43:11
  use
• 43:12
  themes
• 43:12
  and
• 43:12
  ideas
• 43:12
  I
• 43:13
  use
• 43:13
  in
• 43:13
  my
• 43:13
  classes
• 43:15
  and
• 43:15
  I've
• 43:15
  just
• 43:15
  translated
• 43:16
  them
• 43:16
  into
• 43:17
  Sunny.
• 43:17
  Not
• 43:18
  all
• 43:18
  of
• 43:18
  the
• 43:18
  ideas
• 43:18
  would
• 43:18
  translate
• 43:19
  as
• 43:19
  well,
• 43:20
  I
• 43:20
  feel,
• 43:20
  because
• 43:21
  that's
• 43:21
  why
• 43:21
  it's.
• 43:21
  I
• 43:21
  looked
• 43:22
  at
• 43:22
  all
• 43:22
  the
• 43:22
  different
• 43:22
  things
• 43:23
  I
• 43:23
  do,
• 43:24
  from
• 43:24
  elephants
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  autumn
• 43:25
  leaves
• 43:26
  to
• 43:26
  feeding
• 43:26
  the
• 43:26
  birds
• 43:27
  to
• 43:28
  going
• 43:28
  under
• 43:28
  the
• 43:28
  sea,
• 43:29
  which
• 43:29
  is
• 43:29
  essentially
• 43:30
  what
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  next
• 43:30
  one
• 43:31
  will.
• 43:31
  But
• 43:31
  it's
• 43:32
  about
• 43:32
  going
• 43:32
  under
• 43:32
  the
• 43:32
  sea
• 43:33
  and
• 43:33
  all
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  sea
• 43:33
  creatures
• 43:34
  that
• 43:34
  they
• 43:34
  find,
• 43:34
  all
• 43:35
  the
• 43:35
  different
• 43:35
  ways
• 43:35
  to
• 43:36
  move
• 43:36
  and
• 43:36
  all
• 43:36
  the
• 43:37
  different
• 43:37
  things
• 43:37
  you
• 43:37
  can
• 43:37
  find.
• 43:38
  So
• 43:38
  it's.
• 43:39
  Yeah.
• 43:39
  Slightly
• 43:40
  different
• 43:40
  take.
• 43:41
  I'm
• 43:41
  interested.
• 43:42
  You
• 43:42
  talked
• 43:42
  about
• 43:42
  this
• 43:43
  earlier
• 43:43
  about
• 43:44
  your.
• 43:45
  When
• 43:45
  you
• 43:45
  started
• 43:45
  on
• 43:45
  this
• 43:46
  journey
• 43:47
  and
• 43:48
  how
• 43:49
  you
• 43:49
  measured
• 43:50
  success.
• 43:50
  Because
• 43:51
  when
• 43:51
  you
• 43:51
  look
• 43:51
  at
• 43:52
  a
• 43:52
  business
• 43:52
  book
• 43:52
  plan
• 43:53
  and
• 43:53
  we
• 43:53
  talked
• 43:53
  about
• 43:54
  that
• 43:54
  and
• 43:54
  how
• 43:54
  you
• 43:54
  tied
• 43:55
  it
• 43:55
  into
• 43:55
  your
• 43:56
  toddler
• 43:56
  dance
• 43:57
  school,
• 43:57
  which
• 43:58
  is
• 43:58
  cool,
• 43:58
  but
• 43:58
  let's
• 43:59
  delve
• 44:00
  a
• 44:00
  little
• 44:00
  deeper.
• 44:00
  Let's
• 44:01
  take
• 44:01
  a
• 44:01
  step
• 44:01
  back
• 44:02
  from
• 44:02
  that.
• 44:02
  And
• 44:03
  what
• 44:03
  was
• 44:03
  your
• 44:03
  original
• 44:04
  goal?
• 44:05
  And
• 44:07
  after
• 44:07
  you
• 44:07
  did
• 44:08
  the
• 44:08
  book
• 44:08
  launch,
• 44:08
  you
• 44:09
  went,
• 44:09
  oh,
• 44:10
  okay,
• 44:10
  this
• 44:10
  isn't
• 44:11
  exactly
• 44:11
  what
• 44:12
  I
• 44:13
  had
• 44:13
  envisioned
• 44:14
  success.
• 44:14
  Talk
• 44:15
  to
• 44:15
  us
• 44:15
  about
• 44:15
  that.
• 44:15
  Yeah,
• 44:16
  that's
• 44:16
  an
• 44:16
  interesting
• 44:17
  point
• 44:17
  because
• 44:17
  I
• 44:18
  think
• 44:18
  I
• 44:18
  had
• 44:18
  to
• 44:19
  really
• 44:19
  look
• 44:19
  at
• 44:19
  what
• 44:20
  do
• 44:20
  I
• 44:20
  think
• 44:20
  is
• 44:20
  successful,
• 44:21
  what
• 44:21
  is
• 44:22
  the
• 44:22
  success
• 44:22
  that
• 44:22
  I
• 44:23
  was
• 44:24
  wanting?
• 44:25
  And
• 44:25
  I
• 44:26
  had
• 44:26
  to
• 44:26
  remind
• 44:26
  myself
• 44:26
  that
• 44:27
  my
• 44:27
  first
• 44:27
  step
• 44:28
  with
• 44:28
  this
• 44:28
  was
• 44:29
  I
• 44:30
  just
• 44:30
  want
• 44:30
  to.
• 44:30
  I
• 44:31
  just
• 44:31
  want
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  get
• 44:31
  a
• 44:32
  book
• 44:32
  published.
• 44:32
  To
• 44:33
  me
• 44:33
  that
• 44:33
  was,
• 44:35
  we've
• 44:35
  done
• 44:35
  it,
• 44:35
  we've
• 44:36
  got
• 44:36
  the
• 44:36
  book
• 44:36
  published.
• 44:38
  But
• 44:38
  then
• 44:38
  of
• 44:38
  course
• 44:39
  you
• 44:39
  go,
• 44:39
  oh,
• 44:39
  but
• 44:40
  hang
• 44:40
  on,
• 44:41
  there's
• 44:41
  more
• 44:42
  to
• 44:42
  this.
• 44:43
  And
• 44:43
  then
• 44:44
  you
• 44:44
  realize,
• 44:44
  is
• 44:44
  it
• 44:45
  the
• 44:45
  sales?
• 44:45
  Is
• 44:46
  it
• 44:46
  the
• 44:46
  kind
• 44:47
  of
• 44:47
  notoriety,
• 44:48
  Is
• 44:48
  it
• 44:49
  the,
• 44:49
  oh,
• 44:50
  that's
• 44:50
  her,
• 44:50
  that's
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  author.
• 44:51
  It's
• 44:51
  all
• 44:51
  this
• 44:52
  business,
• 44:52
  you
• 44:52
  think,
• 44:53
  no,
• 44:53
  it
• 44:53
  wasn't
• 44:53
  any
• 44:53
  of
• 44:54
  that.
• 44:54
  I
• 44:54
  wanted
• 44:55
  just
• 44:55
  to
• 44:55
  get
• 44:55
  my
• 44:55
  book
• 44:56
  published
• 44:56
  because
• 44:56
  I
• 44:56
  want
• 44:57
  to
• 44:57
  have
• 44:57
  this
• 44:57
  physical
• 44:58
  hard
• 44:59
  copy
• 44:59
  to
• 44:59
  say
• 45:00
  in
• 45:00
  20
• 45:00
  odd
• 45:00
  years
• 45:01
  that
• 45:01
  I've
• 45:01
  done
• 45:01
  this
• 45:01
  class,
• 45:02
  this
• 45:02
  is
• 45:02
  what
• 45:02
  I've
• 45:02
  got
• 45:02
  to
• 45:03
  show
• 45:03
  for
• 45:03
  it.
• 45:03
  This
• 45:03
  is
• 45:03
  it.
• 45:04
  And
• 45:04
  this
• 45:04
  is.
• 45:04
  And
• 45:05
  this
• 45:05
  will
• 45:05
  last
• 45:05
  forever.
• 45:06
  Absolutely.
• 45:07
  Long
• 45:07
  after
• 45:07
  me.
• 45:08
  This
• 45:08
  will
• 45:08
  be
• 45:08
  there
• 45:09
  forever
• 45:09
  for
• 45:09
  my
• 45:10
  children,
• 45:10
  for
• 45:11
  it's
• 45:11
  out
• 45:11
  there,
• 45:11
  it's
• 45:12
  just
• 45:12
  the
• 45:12
  rest
• 45:12
  of
• 45:13
  it.
• 45:13
  So
• 45:14
  I
• 45:14
  think
• 45:14
  now
• 45:14
  I've
• 45:14
  realized
• 45:15
  that
• 45:15
  success
• 45:16
  is.
• 45:17
  It's
• 45:17
  those
• 45:18
  small
• 45:18
  moments.
• 45:18
  It's
• 45:19
  the
• 45:19
  small
• 45:19
  moments
• 45:20
  where
• 45:20
  you
• 45:20
  get
• 45:20
  a
• 45:20
  really
• 45:21
  lovely
• 45:21
  review,
• 45:22
  where
• 45:22
  you
• 45:22
  get
• 45:22
  that
• 45:23
  validation
• 45:24
  from
• 45:24
  whether
• 45:24
  it's
• 45:24
  another
• 45:25
  author
• 45:26
  or
• 45:26
  it's
• 45:26
  a
• 45:27
  family
• 45:27
  that
• 45:27
  say,
• 45:27
  oh,
• 45:28
  we
• 45:28
  read
• 45:28
  your
• 45:28
  book
• 45:28
  every
• 45:29
  night
• 45:29
  and
• 45:29
  it's
• 45:29
  so
• 45:29
  much
• 45:30
  fun
• 45:30
  and
• 45:31
  we're
• 45:31
  loving
• 45:31
  it.
• 45:31
  And
• 45:32
  it's
• 45:32
  those
• 45:33
  moments
• 45:34
  which
• 45:34
  are
• 45:34
  a
• 45:34
  lot
• 45:34
  smaller,
• 45:35
  if
• 45:35
  you
• 45:35
  think
• 45:35
  about
• 45:36
  it,
• 45:36
  than
• 45:36
  the.
• 45:36
  Here
• 45:37
  I
• 45:37
  am
• 45:37
  on
• 45:37
  a
• 45:37
  red
• 45:37
  carpet.
• 45:38
  Doing
• 45:38
  something
• 45:39
  and
• 45:39
  generally
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  feel
• 45:40
  a
• 45:40
  lot
• 45:40
  better.
• 45:41
  You
• 45:42
  do.
• 45:42
  I
• 45:42
  think
• 45:43
  that's
• 45:43
  it.
• 45:43
  And
• 45:43
  I
• 45:43
  said,
• 45:43
  like
• 45:44
  I
• 45:44
  said
• 45:44
  to
• 45:44
  you
• 45:44
  before,
• 45:44
  it's
• 45:44
  about
• 45:45
  managing
• 45:45
  your
• 45:45
  expectations.
• 45:47
  Because
• 45:47
  I
• 45:47
  remember
• 45:48
  on
• 45:48
  the
• 45:48
  day
• 45:48
  it
• 45:49
  was.
• 45:49
  It
• 45:49
  came
• 45:49
  out,
• 45:50
  publishing
• 45:51
  day,
• 45:52
  you
• 45:52
  think
• 45:53
  it
• 45:53
  was
• 45:53
  going
• 45:53
  to
• 45:53
  be
• 45:54
  fanfares
• 45:54
  or
• 45:54
  something
• 45:55
  throughout
• 45:55
  the
• 45:55
  land.
• 45:57
  You
• 45:57
  thought
• 45:57
  you
• 45:57
  were
• 45:58
  going
• 45:58
  to
• 45:58
  get
• 45:58
  a
• 45:58
  parade
• 45:58
  or
• 45:59
  something.
• 45:59
  Yes.
• 46:00
  As
• 46:00
  well.
• 46:00
  Yeah,
• 46:02
  okay,
• 46:02
  we've
• 46:03
  just
• 46:03
  goo
• 46:03
  about
• 46:03
  my
• 46:04
  day.
• 46:05
  Do
• 46:05
  you
• 46:05
  know
• 46:05
  who
• 46:05
  we'll
• 46:05
  have
• 46:05
  anymore?
• 46:06
  It's
• 46:06
  that
• 46:06
  kind
• 46:06
  of
• 46:07
  thing.
• 46:07
  But
• 46:07
  it's
• 46:07
  been.
• 46:07
  But
• 46:08
  actually
• 46:08
  now
• 46:09
  it's
• 46:09
  fine
• 46:10
  that
• 46:10
  it
• 46:11
  is
• 46:11
  fine
• 46:11
  because
• 46:11
  it's
• 46:12
  just.
• 46:12
  It's
• 46:13
  that
• 46:13
  slow
• 46:13
  burn.
• 46:14
  I
• 46:14
  think
• 46:14
  it's
• 46:15
  when
• 46:15
  you
• 46:15
  was
• 46:15
  on
• 46:15
  various
• 46:16
  chat
• 46:16
  shows
• 46:17
  and
• 46:17
  someone
• 46:17
  goes,
• 46:17
  oh,
• 46:17
  I've
• 46:18
  just
• 46:18
  written
• 46:18
  a
• 46:18
  children's
• 46:18
  book.
• 46:19
  And
• 46:19
  you
• 46:19
  think,
• 46:19
  oh,
• 46:19
  goodness.
• 46:20
  But
• 46:21
  right,
• 46:21
  good
• 46:21
  for
• 46:21
  them.
• 46:22
  They've
• 46:22
  done
• 46:22
  that.
• 46:22
  They're
• 46:23
  a
• 46:23
  celebrity,
• 46:23
  they've
• 46:24
  done
• 46:24
  it.
• 46:24
  I
• 46:25
  think
• 46:25
  for
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  most
• 46:25
  part
• 46:26
  I'm
• 46:26
  happy
• 46:27
  to
• 46:27
  be
• 46:27
  in
• 46:27
  this
• 46:27
  pool
• 46:28
  with
• 46:28
  everyone
• 46:28
  else
• 46:28
  going,
• 46:29
  you
• 46:29
  know
• 46:29
  what?
• 46:30
  This
• 46:30
  is
• 46:30
  my
• 46:30
  little
• 46:31
  corner,
• 46:31
  this
• 46:31
  is
• 46:31
  my
• 46:32
  book.
• 46:32
  And
• 46:32
  I'll
• 46:33
  cheer
• 46:33
  you
• 46:33
  on.
• 46:33
  You
• 46:34
  can
• 46:34
  cheer
• 46:34
  me
• 46:34
  on.
• 46:34
  And
• 46:35
  we're
• 46:35
  just
• 46:36
  ride
• 46:36
  this
• 46:36
  roller
• 46:37
  coaster
• 46:37
  together.
• 46:38
  And
• 46:38
  that
• 46:38
  leads
• 46:38
  me
• 46:39
  to
• 46:39
  my
• 46:39
  next
• 46:39
  question
• 46:40
  because
• 46:40
  you
• 46:40
  had
• 46:40
  to
• 46:41
  already
• 46:41
  alluded
• 46:42
  to
• 46:42
  it
• 46:42
  a
• 46:42
  bit
• 46:42
  about
• 46:43
  how
• 46:43
  long
• 46:43
  you're
• 46:44
  going
• 46:44
  to
• 46:44
  keep
• 46:44
  doing
• 46:44
  your
• 46:45
  toddler's
• 46:45
  dance
• 46:46
  school.
• 46:46
  So
• 46:47
  I
• 46:47
  want
• 46:47
  to
• 46:47
  talk
• 46:47
  to
• 46:47
  you
• 46:48
  about
• 46:48
  the
• 46:48
  role
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  writing.
• 46:49
  Tell
• 46:49
  us
• 46:50
  what
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  role
• 46:51
  of
• 46:51
  writing,
• 46:52
  being
• 46:52
  a
• 46:53
  children's
• 46:53
  book
• 46:53
  author
• 46:53
  means
• 46:54
  to
• 46:54
  you
• 46:54
  in
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  grand
• 46:55
  scheme
• 46:56
  of
• 46:56
  your
• 46:56
  professional
• 46:57
  life.
• 46:57
  Now.
• 47:00
  It
• 47:00
  really
• 47:00
  is
• 47:01
  a
• 47:01
  kind
• 47:01
  of
• 47:01
  a
• 47:01
  total
• 47:02
  kind
• 47:02
  of
• 47:02
  diversion
• 47:03
  of.
• 47:04
  Because
• 47:04
  I
• 47:04
  think
• 47:04
  I've
• 47:05
  always,
• 47:05
  I
• 47:05
  think
• 47:06
  with
• 47:06
  a
• 47:06
  bit
• 47:06
  of
• 47:06
  luck
• 47:06
  and
• 47:06
  charisma
• 47:07
  really,
• 47:07
  my
• 47:07
  career
• 47:08
  has
• 47:08
  went
• 47:09
  from
• 47:09
  performing
• 47:10
  to
• 47:10
  teaching.
• 47:11
  And
• 47:11
  then
• 47:12
  this
• 47:12
  job
• 47:12
  came
• 47:12
  this
• 47:13
  job
• 47:13
  and
• 47:13
  it
• 47:13
  just
• 47:13
  rolled
• 47:14
  on
• 47:14
  so
• 47:15
  to
• 47:15
  suddenly
• 47:15
  take
• 47:16
  this
• 47:16
  sort
• 47:16
  of
• 47:16
  sharp
• 47:16
  right
• 47:17
  turn
• 47:17
  towards
• 47:17
  writing.
• 47:19
  But
• 47:19
  it
• 47:19
  gave
• 47:20
  me.
• 47:20
  When
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  was
• 47:21
  doing
• 47:22
  the
• 47:22
  first
• 47:22
  book,
• 47:22
  I
• 47:22
  did
• 47:23
  started
• 47:23
  it
• 47:23
  and
• 47:24
  then
• 47:24
  I
• 47:24
  kept
• 47:24
  jotting
• 47:25
  ideas
• 47:25
  down
• 47:25
  with
• 47:26
  the
• 47:26
  second
• 47:26
  book
• 47:26
  in
• 47:26
  mind
• 47:26
  because
• 47:27
  I
• 47:27
  kept
• 47:27
  thinking
• 47:27
  I
• 47:27
  can't
• 47:27
  put
• 47:27
  that
• 47:28
  in
• 47:28
  that
• 47:28
  one,
• 47:28
  but
• 47:28
  I
• 47:28
  could
• 47:29
  do
• 47:29
  it
• 47:29
  in
• 47:29
  the
• 47:29
  second
• 47:29
  book.
• 47:30
  It
• 47:31
  just
• 47:31
  gave
• 47:31
  me
• 47:31
  such
• 47:32
  kind
• 47:32
  of
• 47:34
  calmness
• 47:35
  and
• 47:36
  quiet
• 47:37
  that
• 47:37
  I
• 47:37
  just
• 47:37
  think
• 47:38
  I
• 47:38
  hadn't
• 47:38
  ever
• 47:38
  had.
• 47:39
  And
• 47:39
  I
• 47:39
  don't
• 47:40
  really
• 47:40
  have
• 47:40
  this
• 47:40
  with
• 47:40
  lesson
• 47:41
  planning
• 47:41
  or
• 47:41
  thinking
• 47:42
  up
• 47:42
  ideas
• 47:42
  for
• 47:42
  the
• 47:42
  things
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  do
• 47:44
  because
• 47:44
  as
• 47:44
  well
• 47:44
  as
• 47:44
  my
• 47:44
  toddler
• 47:45
  class,
• 47:45
  I
• 47:45
  also
• 47:45
  work
• 47:46
  in
• 47:46
  a
• 47:46
  care
• 47:46
  home
• 47:47
  and
• 47:47
  care
• 47:47
  based
• 47:48
  exercises
• 47:48
  and
• 47:49
  I
• 47:49
  work
• 47:49
  in
• 47:49
  a
• 47:49
  cancer
• 47:50
  help
• 47:50
  center
• 47:51
  and
• 47:51
  I
• 47:51
  do
• 47:51
  exercise
• 47:52
  and
• 47:52
  dance
• 47:53
  with
• 47:53
  the
• 47:54
  people
• 47:54
  who've
• 47:54
  either
• 47:55
  got
• 47:55
  cancer,
• 47:55
  had
• 47:56
  cancer,
• 47:56
  are
• 47:56
  going
• 47:57
  through
• 47:57
  treatment.
• 47:57
  It's
• 47:58
  again,
• 47:58
  it's
• 47:58
  a
• 47:58
  different
• 47:58
  way
• 47:59
  of
• 47:59
  moving
• 48:00
  for
• 48:00
  sure.
• 48:00
  And
• 48:01
  having
• 48:01
  done
• 48:02
  previously
• 48:03
  worked
• 48:03
  in
• 48:03
  schools
• 48:04
  and
• 48:04
  done
• 48:05
  from
• 48:05
  age
• 48:06
  4
• 48:06
  to
• 48:06
  11
• 48:07
  year
• 48:07
  olds
• 48:08
  who've
• 48:08
  done
• 48:08
  sort
• 48:08
  of
• 48:09
  adult
• 48:09
  dance
• 48:09
  classes,
• 48:10
  that
• 48:10
  sort
• 48:10
  of,
• 48:11
  that's
• 48:11
  been
• 48:11
  my
• 48:11
  sort
• 48:11
  of
• 48:11
  career
• 48:12
  throughout.
• 48:12
  So
• 48:13
  this
• 48:13
  was.
• 48:13
  Suddenly
• 48:15
  my
• 48:16
  words
• 48:16
  were
• 48:17
  giving
• 48:17
  me
• 48:17
  the.
• 48:17
  Movement
• 48:18
  and
• 48:18
  are
• 48:18
  you
• 48:19
  devoting
• 48:19
  a
• 48:19
  specific
• 48:20
  amount
• 48:20
  of
• 48:21
  time
• 48:21
  to
• 48:22
  writing
• 48:22
  or
• 48:22
  how
• 48:22
  like
• 48:23
  what's
• 48:23
  your.
• 48:23
  What's.
• 48:23
  How
• 48:24
  do
• 48:24
  you
• 48:24
  do,
• 48:24
  how
• 48:24
  do
• 48:25
  you
• 48:25
  get
• 48:25
  your
• 48:25
  creative
• 48:25
  juices
• 48:26
  down
• 48:26
  on
• 48:26
  paper?
• 48:27
  I
• 48:27
  was
• 48:28
  almost
• 48:28
  do
• 48:28
  it
• 48:28
  in
• 48:28
  blocks
• 48:29
  and
• 48:29
  it
• 48:30
  was
• 48:30
  literally
• 48:30
  as
• 48:31
  if
• 48:31
  like
• 48:31
  I
• 48:31
  could
• 48:31
  spend
• 48:32
  the
• 48:32
  whole
• 48:32
  afternoon
• 48:32
  one
• 48:32
  day
• 48:33
  going,
• 48:33
  oh
• 48:33
  my
• 48:33
  goodness,
• 48:34
  I've
• 48:34
  rewritten
• 48:35
  that
• 48:35
  page
• 48:35
  20
• 48:36
  times.
• 48:36
  But
• 48:36
  it
• 48:36
  still
• 48:37
  feels
• 48:37
  really
• 48:37
  good
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  do
• 48:38
  it
• 48:38
  because
• 48:38
  I
• 48:38
  like
• 48:38
  every
• 48:38
  version.
• 48:39
  I've
• 48:39
  just
• 48:39
  got
• 48:39
  to
• 48:39
  figure
• 48:40
  out
• 48:40
  which
• 48:40
  version
• 48:41
  is
• 48:41
  going
• 48:41
  to
• 48:41
  go.
• 48:42
  And
• 48:42
  then
• 48:42
  other
• 48:43
  times
• 48:43
  I
• 48:43
  would
• 48:43
  sit
• 48:43
  there
• 48:44
  and
• 48:44
  like
• 48:44
  anyone,
• 48:44
  you
• 48:45
  go,
• 48:45
  okay,
• 48:46
  I've
• 48:47
  pressed
• 48:47
  the
• 48:47
  space
• 48:47
  bar
• 48:48
  about
• 48:49
  100
• 48:49
  times
• 48:49
  and
• 48:50
  nothing,
• 48:50
  nothing's
• 48:51
  coming.
• 48:51
  Or
• 48:51
  I
• 48:51
  can't
• 48:52
  quite
• 48:52
  feel
• 48:52
  the
• 48:52
  flow.
• 48:54
  I
• 48:54
  think
• 48:54
  for
• 48:54
  me
• 48:55
  with
• 48:55
  most
• 48:56
  things
• 48:56
  I
• 48:57
  approach
• 48:57
  it
• 48:57
  that,
• 48:58
  you
• 48:58
  know,
• 48:58
  what
• 48:58
  if
• 48:58
  it's
• 48:58
  not
• 48:59
  happening,
• 48:59
  we're
• 49:00
  just
• 49:00
  going
• 49:00
  to
• 49:00
  leave
• 49:00
  it,
• 49:00
  we're
• 49:01
  just
• 49:01
  going
• 49:01
  to.
• 49:02
  There's
• 49:02
  a
• 49:02
  sense
• 49:02
  of
• 49:02
  pushing
• 49:03
  through
• 49:03
  which
• 49:04
  I
• 49:04
  get,
• 49:04
  but
• 49:05
  if
• 49:05
  it's
• 49:05
  not
• 49:05
  happening,
• 49:06
  let's
• 49:06
  just
• 49:06
  leave
• 49:06
  it
• 49:07
  and
• 49:07
  we'll
• 49:07
  come
• 49:07
  back
• 49:07
  to
• 49:08
  it.
• 49:08
  And
• 49:09
  so
• 49:09
  with
• 49:09
  the
• 49:09
  first
• 49:09
  book
• 49:10
  I
• 49:10
  had
• 49:10
  a
• 49:10
  lot
• 49:10
  of
• 49:10
  gaps
• 49:11
  because
• 49:12
  I
• 49:12
  would
• 49:12
  just
• 49:12
  sit
• 49:12
  there
• 49:12
  and
• 49:13
  it
• 49:13
  was
• 49:13
  like,
• 49:13
  you
• 49:13
  know
• 49:13
  what,
• 49:14
  am
• 49:14
  I
• 49:14
  going
• 49:14
  to
• 49:14
  get
• 49:14
  this
• 49:15
  published
• 49:15
  or
• 49:15
  am
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  just
• 49:16
  doing
• 49:16
  it
• 49:16
  just
• 49:16
  as
• 49:16
  an
• 49:17
  exercise
• 49:17
  for
• 49:17
  myself?
• 49:18
  Because
• 49:18
  I'm
• 49:18
  enjoying
• 49:19
  it.
• 49:19
  Whether
• 49:19
  it
• 49:20
  gets
• 49:20
  published
• 49:20
  or
• 49:20
  not,
• 49:21
  I'm
• 49:21
  enjoying
• 49:21
  it.
• 49:22
  It's
• 49:22
  really
• 49:22
  great,
• 49:23
  it's
• 49:23
  therapeutic.
• 49:24
  I
• 49:24
  feel
• 49:25
  quite
• 49:26
  nostalgic
• 49:27
  talking
• 49:28
  about
• 49:28
  Sonny
• 49:28
  and
• 49:29
  Daddy.
• 49:29
  It
• 49:29
  reminds
• 49:30
  me
• 49:30
  of
• 49:30
  when
• 49:30
  the
• 49:30
  children
• 49:30
  were
• 49:31
  little.
• 49:31
  It
• 49:31
  reminds
• 49:32
  me
• 49:32
  of
• 49:32
  that
• 49:33
  time.
• 49:33
  And
• 49:33
  I
• 49:34
  would
• 49:34
  then
• 49:34
  go
• 49:34
  off
• 49:34
  on
• 49:34
  a
• 49:34
  little
• 49:35
  tangent
• 49:35
  in
• 49:35
  my
• 49:35
  own
• 49:36
  head
• 49:36
  and
• 49:36
  remember
• 49:36
  those
• 49:37
  days
• 49:37
  in
• 49:37
  the
• 49:37
  playroom.
• 49:38
  And
• 49:39
  so
• 49:39
  that
• 49:40
  was
• 49:40
  quite
• 49:41
  fulfilling
• 49:41
  in
• 49:41
  itself.
• 49:42
  But
• 49:43
  then
• 49:43
  you
• 49:43
  go,
• 49:43
  no,
• 49:44
  this
• 49:44
  could
• 49:44
  be
• 49:44
  more
• 49:45
  And
• 49:45
  I
• 49:45
  think
• 49:45
  it
• 49:45
  was
• 49:45
  that
• 49:46
  thread
• 49:46
  that
• 49:46
  I
• 49:46
  said
• 49:47
  that
• 49:47
  those
• 49:47
  two
• 49:47
  publishers
• 49:48
  wrote
• 49:48
  back
• 49:48
  saying,
• 49:48
  it's
• 49:49
  not
• 49:49
  for
• 49:49
  us,
• 49:50
  but
• 49:50
  we
• 49:50
  really
• 49:50
  like
• 49:51
  it.
• 49:51
  And
• 49:51
  you
• 49:51
  know
• 49:52
  what?
• 49:52
  I
• 49:53
  love
• 49:53
  that
• 49:53
  they
• 49:53
  did
• 49:54
  that.
• 49:54
  Because
• 49:54
  you
• 49:54
  know
• 49:54
  what?
• 49:55
  A
• 49:55
  lot.
• 49:55
  Yeah,
• 49:55
  it
• 49:56
  meant
• 49:56
  a
• 49:56
  lot.
• 49:57
  Yeah.
• 49:57
  Because
• 49:57
  a
• 49:58
  lot
• 49:58
  of
• 49:58
  companies,
• 49:59
  they
• 49:59
  wouldn't
• 50:00
  do
• 50:00
  that.
• 50:00
  And
• 50:01
  no,
• 50:01
  I
• 50:01
  had
• 50:01
  lots
• 50:02
  who.
• 50:02
  Literally,
• 50:03
  it
• 50:03
  was
• 50:03
  a
• 50:03
  case
• 50:03
  of,
• 50:04
  if
• 50:04
  you
• 50:04
  don't
• 50:04
  hear
• 50:04
  from
• 50:04
  us.
• 50:05
  Yeah.
• 50:06
  And
• 50:06
  you
• 50:06
  go,
• 50:07
  how
• 50:07
  long
• 50:07
  do
• 50:08
  I
• 50:08
  give
• 50:08
  that?
• 50:08
  Do
• 50:08
  I
• 50:09
  wait?
• 50:10
  Months?
• 50:10
  Is
• 50:10
  it
• 50:11
  three
• 50:11
  weeks?
• 50:11
  Is
• 50:11
  it.
• 50:12
  I
• 50:12
  don't
• 50:12
  know,
• 50:13
  what
• 50:13
  is
• 50:13
  it?
• 50:13
  And
• 50:14
  it's
• 50:14
  quite
• 50:14
  disheartening
• 50:15
  when
• 50:15
  you've
• 50:15
  gone,
• 50:16
  I've
• 50:16
  done
• 50:16
  this
• 50:16
  for
• 50:16
  you,
• 50:17
  and
• 50:17
  hand
• 50:17
  over
• 50:18
  this
• 50:18
  thing.
• 50:18
  And
• 50:18
  then
• 50:18
  they
• 50:18
  just.
• 50:19
  Yeah,
• 50:19
  whatever.
• 50:20
  For
• 50:20
  them
• 50:20
  to
• 50:21
  actually
• 50:21
  say,
• 50:22
  I
• 50:23
  like
• 50:23
  it.
• 50:23
  Oh,
• 50:23
  it's
• 50:24
  good.
• 50:24
  It
• 50:24
  was
• 50:24
  like,
• 50:25
  ah,
• 50:25
  that's
• 50:26
  fantastic,
• 50:27
  for
• 50:27
  sure.
• 50:27
  And
• 50:28
  that
• 50:28
  leads
• 50:28
  me
• 50:28
  to.
• 50:29
  Because
• 50:30
  you've
• 50:30
  shared
• 50:30
  so
• 50:31
  much
• 50:31
  and
• 50:31
  you've
• 50:31
  shared
• 50:32
  about
• 50:32
  your.
• 50:32
  The
• 50:33
  role
• 50:33
  of
• 50:33
  writing
• 50:34
  in
• 50:34
  your
• 50:34
  life
• 50:34
  and
• 50:35
  how
• 50:35
  it'll
• 50:35
  end
• 50:35
  up
• 50:36
  being
• 50:36
  more
• 50:36
  of
• 50:36
  a
• 50:36
  role
• 50:37
  in
• 50:37
  your
• 50:37
  life.
• 50:37
  So
• 50:38
  what
• 50:38
  advice
• 50:39
  would
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  give
• 50:40
  aspiring
• 50:41
  children's
• 50:41
  book
• 50:42
  authors?
• 50:44
  If
• 50:44
  you
• 50:45
  have
• 50:45
  an
• 50:45
  idea,
• 50:46
  Absolutely
• 50:47
  explore
• 50:47
  it.
• 50:48
  Absolutely
• 50:49
  explore
• 50:49
  it.
• 50:49
  You're
• 50:49
  not
• 50:50
  going
• 50:50
  to
• 50:50
  get
• 50:50
  the
• 50:50
  first
• 50:50
  version
• 50:51
  or
• 50:51
  the
• 50:51
  final
• 50:51
  version
• 50:52
  the
• 50:52
  first
• 50:52
  time.
• 50:53
  It's
• 50:53
  going
• 50:54
  to
• 50:54
  grow.
• 50:54
  It's
• 50:54
  going
• 50:55
  to.
• 50:55
  You're
• 50:55
  going
• 50:55
  to
• 50:55
  take
• 50:55
  10
• 50:55
  steps
• 50:56
  forward
• 50:56
  and
• 50:57
  then
• 50:57
  you're
• 50:57
  going
• 50:57
  to
• 50:57
  take
• 50:57
  about
• 50:57
  50
• 50:58
  back,
• 50:58
  but
• 50:59
  you're
• 50:59
  going
• 50:59
  to.
• 51:00
  You
• 51:00
  just.
• 51:01
  It
• 51:01
  is
• 51:02
  a
• 51:02
  case
• 51:02
  of
• 51:02
  just
• 51:03
  keep
• 51:03
  writing.
• 51:04
  Because
• 51:04
  even
• 51:05
  when
• 51:05
  I
• 51:05
  was
• 51:05
  writing
• 51:05
  and
• 51:06
  sometimes
• 51:06
  I
• 51:06
  was
• 51:06
  like,
• 51:07
  what
• 51:07
  is
• 51:07
  that?
• 51:08
  Oh,
• 51:08
  my
• 51:09
  goodness,
• 51:09
  that
• 51:09
  is
• 51:10
  just
• 51:11
  not
• 51:11
  making
• 51:11
  any
• 51:11
  sense.
• 51:12
  But
• 51:12
  I
• 51:12
  would
• 51:12
  go,
• 51:12
  actually,
• 51:13
  now,
• 51:13
  let
• 51:13
  me.
• 51:14
  That
• 51:14
  bit
• 51:14
  could
• 51:15
  work.
• 51:15
  And
• 51:16
  it's
• 51:16
  almost
• 51:16
  like
• 51:16
  having
• 51:17
  fajigs
• 51:17
  or
• 51:17
  laid
• 51:18
  out
• 51:18
  in
• 51:18
  front
• 51:18
  of
• 51:18
  you
• 51:18
  and
• 51:18
  you've
• 51:19
  just
• 51:19
  got
• 51:19
  to
• 51:19
  figure
• 51:19
  out
• 51:20
  how
• 51:20
  the
• 51:20
  pieces
• 51:20
  go
• 51:21
  together.
• 51:21
  And
• 51:22
  you
• 51:22
  may.
• 51:22
  You
• 51:23
  realize
• 51:23
  that
• 51:23
  you
• 51:24
  couldn't
• 51:24
  jam
• 51:24
  everything
• 51:25
  into
• 51:25
  one
• 51:25
  book.
• 51:26
  No,
• 51:26
  you
• 51:27
  started
• 51:27
  separating
• 51:28
  it
• 51:28
  out.
• 51:28
  And
• 51:29
  no
• 51:29
  one's
• 51:30
  ever
• 51:30
  said
• 51:30
  that
• 51:30
  to
• 51:31
  me
• 51:31
  before
• 51:32
  on.
• 51:32
  On
• 51:32
  this
• 51:33
  podcast
• 51:33
  show.
• 51:33
  It's
• 51:34
  neat
• 51:34
  to
• 51:34
  hear
• 51:34
  that
• 51:35
  and
• 51:35
  say,
• 51:35
  well,
• 51:36
  look
• 51:36
  it,
• 51:37
  you
• 51:37
  only
• 51:37
  have
• 51:37
  five
• 51:38
  hundred
• 51:38
  to
• 51:38
  a
• 51:38
  thousand
• 51:39
  words.
• 51:39
  And
• 51:39
  if
• 51:40
  you're
• 51:40
  over
• 51:40
  that,
• 51:41
  then
• 51:41
  you
• 51:41
  know
• 51:42
  what,
• 51:43
  it
• 51:43
  could
• 51:43
  develop
• 51:44
  into
• 51:44
  a
• 51:45
  second
• 51:45
  or
• 51:45
  a
• 51:45
  third
• 51:46
  book,
• 51:46
  like
• 51:46
  Alice's
• 51:46
  book.
• 51:47
  Well,
• 51:47
  I
• 51:47
  think
• 51:47
  that's
• 51:48
  basically
• 51:48
  why
• 51:49
  I
• 51:49
  suddenly
• 51:49
  realized
• 51:50
  I
• 51:50
  could
• 51:50
  potentially
• 51:51
  do
• 51:51
  more.
• 51:53
  Because
• 51:53
  the
• 51:53
  first
• 51:53
  one,
• 51:53
  I
• 51:54
  think,
• 51:54
  was.
• 51:54
  It
• 51:54
  was
• 51:55
  so
• 51:55
  full.
• 51:56
  It
• 51:56
  was
• 51:56
  so
• 51:56
  full.
• 51:56
  And
• 51:57
  it
• 51:57
  was
• 51:57
  almost
• 51:57
  like,
• 51:57
  this
• 51:57
  isn't
• 51:58
  a
• 51:58
  picture
• 51:58
  book.
• 51:58
  This
• 51:58
  is
• 51:58
  not.
• 51:59
  No,
• 51:59
  we're
• 51:59
  not.
• 51:59
  This
• 51:59
  isn't.
• 52:00
  This
• 52:00
  is
• 52:00
  just
• 52:01
  too
• 52:01
  much.
• 52:01
  And
• 52:02
  then
• 52:02
  you
• 52:02
  whittle
• 52:02
  it
• 52:02
  down
• 52:03
  and
• 52:03
  you
• 52:03
  whittle
• 52:03
  it
• 52:04
  down.
• 52:04
  And
• 52:04
  then
• 52:05
  when
• 52:05
  you
• 52:05
  are
• 52:05
  wary
• 52:06
  of
• 52:06
  the
• 52:06
  number
• 52:06
  of
• 52:06
  words
• 52:07
  and
• 52:07
  you're
• 52:07
  wary
• 52:08
  of.
• 52:08
  But
• 52:08
  you
• 52:09
  still
• 52:09
  need
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  express
• 52:09
  what
• 52:10
  you
• 52:10
  want
• 52:10
  to
• 52:10
  say,
• 52:11
  but
• 52:11
  within
• 52:11
  those
• 52:12
  constraints.
• 52:12
  Yes,
• 52:13
  but
• 52:13
  it
• 52:13
  is
• 52:13
  doable.
• 52:14
  It
• 52:14
  means
• 52:14
  that
• 52:15
  you
• 52:15
  get
• 52:15
  to
• 52:15
  be
• 52:15
  more
• 52:15
  creative
• 52:16
  because
• 52:16
  you've
• 52:17
  got
• 52:17
  to
• 52:17
  then
• 52:17
  think,
• 52:17
  I
• 52:18
  can
• 52:18
  only
• 52:18
  express
• 52:18
  it
• 52:19
  in
• 52:19
  this
• 52:19
  much
• 52:20
  space
• 52:20
  for
• 52:21
  sure.
• 52:21
  But
• 52:21
  to
• 52:21
  just
• 52:21
  keep.
• 52:22
  I
• 52:22
  would
• 52:22
  say
• 52:22
  to
• 52:22
  someone,
• 52:23
  just
• 52:23
  keep
• 52:23
  going.
• 52:24
  Because
• 52:24
  it's,
• 52:24
  it's
• 52:25
  an.
• 52:25
  Even
• 52:25
  if
• 52:26
  the
• 52:26
  long
• 52:26
  game,
• 52:26
  it's
• 52:27
  not
• 52:27
  an
• 52:27
  overnight
• 52:28
  thing.
• 52:28
  It's
• 52:28
  not
• 52:28
  something
• 52:29
  that's
• 52:29
  just
• 52:29
  going
• 52:29
  to
• 52:29
  be
• 52:29
  produced
• 52:30
  amazingly
• 52:31
  in
• 52:31
  one
• 52:32
  go.
• 52:32
  I,
• 52:33
  I
• 52:33
  think
• 52:33
  I
• 52:33
  lost
• 52:34
  track
• 52:34
  of
• 52:34
  how
• 52:34
  many
• 52:34
  drafts
• 52:35
  I
• 52:35
  did
• 52:35
  of
• 52:35
  it.
• 52:36
  Because
• 52:37
  yourself.
• 52:38
  It
• 52:39
  reads
• 52:39
  well,
• 52:40
  you
• 52:40
  think,
• 52:40
  but
• 52:40
  it's
• 52:41
  like
• 52:41
  there's
• 52:41
  something.
• 52:42
  I
• 52:42
  just
• 52:43
  don't
• 52:43
  know
• 52:43
  what
• 52:43
  it
• 52:43
  is.
• 52:43
  I
• 52:43
  don't
• 52:43
  want
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  submit
• 52:44
  that
• 52:44
  yet
• 52:44
  because
• 52:44
  I
• 52:45
  don't
• 52:45
  feel
• 52:45
  in
• 52:45
  myself.
• 52:46
  That's
• 52:46
  the
• 52:46
  one.
• 52:47
  Okay.
• 52:48
  I
• 52:48
  always
• 52:48
  save
• 52:49
  this
• 52:49
  towards
• 52:50
  the
• 52:50
  end.
• 52:51
  But
• 52:51
  the
• 52:52
  most
• 52:52
  important,
• 52:53
  we
• 52:53
  talked
• 52:53
  about
• 52:53
  it
• 52:54
  earlier.
• 52:54
  The
• 52:54
  most
• 52:54
  important
• 52:55
  person
• 52:55
  at
• 52:56
  the
• 52:56
  end
• 52:56
  of
• 52:56
  the
• 52:56
  day
• 52:57
  with
• 52:57
  your
• 52:57
  children's
• 52:58
  book,
• 52:58
  besides
• 52:59
  yourself,
• 52:59
  is
• 53:00
  your
• 53:00
  readers.
• 53:01
  So
• 53:01
  what
• 53:02
  encouragement
• 53:02
  do
• 53:03
  you
• 53:03
  have
• 53:03
  for
• 53:03
  your
• 53:03
  readers?
• 53:04
  Why
• 53:04
  should
• 53:04
  they
• 53:04
  purchase
• 53:05
  your
• 53:05
  book?
• 53:07
  Because
• 53:07
  I
• 53:08
  think
• 53:08
  they
• 53:08
  should
• 53:08
  purchase
• 53:09
  it
• 53:09
  because
• 53:09
  it's.
• 53:10
  It's
• 53:11
  just
• 53:11
  fun.
• 53:12
  It's
• 53:12
  just
• 53:13
  fun.
• 53:13
  And
• 53:13
  it's
• 53:14
  a
• 53:14
  book
• 53:14
  that
• 53:14
  a
• 53:15
  child
• 53:15
  could
• 53:15
  be
• 53:15
  read
• 53:16
  to.
• 53:16
  And
• 53:17
  by
• 53:17
  having
• 53:17
  your
• 53:18
  parent
• 53:18
  or
• 53:18
  carer
• 53:20
  reading
• 53:20
  it
• 53:20
  to
• 53:20
  you,
• 53:22
  it
• 53:23
  means
• 53:23
  that
• 53:23
  you
• 53:23
  already
• 53:23
  having
• 53:24
  that
• 53:24
  connection,
• 53:24
  that
• 53:25
  bond,
• 53:25
  and
• 53:25
  then
• 53:25
  that
• 53:25
  could
• 53:26
  hopefully
• 53:26
  lead
• 53:26
  onto
• 53:27
  showing
• 53:28
  parents
• 53:28
  and
• 53:28
  carers,
• 53:29
  hey,
• 53:29
  maybe
• 53:29
  I
• 53:30
  could
• 53:30
  do
• 53:30
  that
• 53:30
  with
• 53:30
  my
• 53:30
  child.
• 53:31
  Maybe
• 53:31
  we
• 53:31
  could
• 53:31
  do
• 53:32
  that
• 53:32
  together.
• 53:33
  Just
• 53:33
  exploring
• 53:34
  also
• 53:35
  the
• 53:35
  wonderful
• 53:36
  world
• 53:36
  of
• 53:36
  dance.
• 53:36
  I
• 53:37
  think
• 53:37
  for
• 53:37
  me,
• 53:37
  that's
• 53:38
  something
• 53:38
  I
• 53:38
  would
• 53:39
  love
• 53:39
  more
• 53:39
  people
• 53:39
  to
• 53:40
  take
• 53:40
  part
• 53:40
  in.
• 53:41
  So
• 53:41
  I
• 53:41
  think
• 53:42
  it
• 53:42
  just
• 53:42
  shows
• 53:43
  them
• 53:43
  that
• 53:43
  you
• 53:44
  don't
• 53:44
  have
• 53:44
  to
• 53:44
  be
• 53:44
  a
• 53:45
  professional
• 53:45
  dancer.
• 53:46
  You
• 53:46
  don't
• 53:46
  have
• 53:46
  to
• 53:46
  have
• 53:47
  it
• 53:47
  perfectly.
• 53:47
  You
• 53:47
  can
• 53:48
  just
• 53:48
  stomp
• 53:48
  and
• 53:49
  charge
• 53:49
  about
• 53:50
  and
• 53:50
  do
• 53:50
  twist
• 53:51
  around
• 53:51
  and
• 53:51
  do
• 53:52
  your
• 53:52
  own
• 53:52
  thing.
• 53:53
  It's
• 53:53
  your
• 53:53
  own
• 53:53
  expression,
• 53:54
  isn't
• 53:54
  it?
• 53:54
  Put
• 53:54
  your
• 53:54
  favorite
• 53:55
  piece
• 53:55
  of
• 53:55
  music
• 53:55
  on
• 53:56
  and
• 53:56
  just
• 53:56
  have
• 53:56
  a
• 53:56
  boogie.
• 53:57
  Absolutely.
• 53:57
  And
• 53:57
  just
• 53:58
  have
• 53:58
  some
• 53:58
  fun
• 53:59
  with
• 53:59
  it
• 53:59
  because
• 53:59
  that's
• 54:00
  what
• 54:00
  you're
• 54:00
  going
• 54:00
  to
• 54:00
  get
• 54:00
  from
• 54:00
  Sunny
• 54:01
  Steps
• 54:01
  loves
• 54:01
  to
• 54:01
  dance.
• 54:02
  And
• 54:02
  it's
• 54:02
  a
• 54:02
  great
• 54:03
  connecting
• 54:03
  point
• 54:04
  for
• 54:05
  young
• 54:05
  and
• 54:05
  old.
• 54:07
  Final
• 54:07
  thoughts?
• 54:08
  Alison,
• 54:08
  is
• 54:08
  there
• 54:08
  a
• 54:09
  question
• 54:09
  I
• 54:09
  didn't
• 54:09
  ask
• 54:10
  you?
• 54:10
  You
• 54:10
  thought,
• 54:10
  I
• 54:11
  really
• 54:11
  want
• 54:11
  to
• 54:11
  share
• 54:11
  this
• 54:12
  with
• 54:12
  the
• 54:12
  audience.
• 54:12
  Is
• 54:13
  there
• 54:13
  something
• 54:13
  that
• 54:13
  you'd
• 54:14
  like
• 54:14
  to
• 54:14
  share
• 54:14
  that
• 54:15
  I
• 54:15
  didn't
• 54:15
  ask
• 54:16
  you?
• 54:17
  Oh,
• 54:17
  goodness,
• 54:18
  no.
• 54:18
  I
• 54:19
  just.
• 54:19
  I
• 54:19
  think,
• 54:19
  to
• 54:19
  be
• 54:19
  honest,
• 54:20
  we've
• 54:20
  covered
• 54:20
  everything.
• 54:21
  I
• 54:22
  think
• 54:22
  Sunny
• 54:22
  Steps
• 54:23
  loves
• 54:23
  to
• 54:23
  Dance
• 54:23
  is.
• 54:24
  Is
• 54:24
  an
• 54:24
  extension
• 54:25
  of
• 54:25
  me.
• 54:25
  I
• 54:25
  am,
• 54:26
  in
• 54:26
  a
• 54:26
  way,
• 54:26
  Sunny
• 54:27
  Steps,
• 54:27
  because
• 54:28
  the
• 54:28
  class,
• 54:29
  I've
• 54:29
  never
• 54:29
  franchised
• 54:30
  it.
• 54:30
  It's
• 54:30
  not
• 54:31
  a
• 54:31
  big
• 54:32
  conglomerate
• 54:33
  thing.
• 54:33
  It's
• 54:33
  me.
• 54:34
  I'm
• 54:34
  not
• 54:34
  like,
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  don't
• 54:35
  know
• 54:35
  if
• 54:35
  you
• 54:35
  have
• 54:35
  things
• 54:35
  like
• 54:35
  Tumble
• 54:36
  Tots
• 54:36
  or
• 54:36
  monkey
• 54:37
  music,
• 54:37
  those
• 54:37
  sorts
• 54:37
  of
• 54:37
  big
• 54:38
  franchises,
• 54:38
  that
• 54:38
  kind
• 54:38
  of
• 54:39
  children's
• 54:39
  classes.
• 54:40
  Absolutely.
• 54:41
  Sunny
• 54:41
  Steps
• 54:41
  is
• 54:41
  me,
• 54:42
  and
• 54:42
  it
• 54:43
  always
• 54:43
  has
• 54:43
  been
• 54:43
  me.
• 54:43
  If
• 54:44
  you
• 54:44
  come
• 54:44
  to
• 54:44
  Sunny
• 54:44
  Steps,
• 54:45
  it's
• 54:46
  I
• 54:46
  am
• 54:46
  it.
• 54:47
  That's
• 54:47
  the
• 54:47
  class.
• 54:47
  I
• 54:48
  haven't
• 54:48
  got
• 54:48
  any
• 54:48
  other
• 54:48
  teachers.
• 54:49
  It's
• 54:49
  just
• 54:49
  me.
• 54:50
  So
• 54:50
  I
• 54:50
  think
• 54:51
  Sunny
• 54:51
  Steps,
• 54:52
  the
• 54:53
  book
• 54:53
  is
• 54:53
  me.
• 54:54
  You're
• 54:54
  getting
• 54:54
  a
• 54:54
  little
• 54:54
  piece
• 54:55
  of
• 54:55
  me
• 54:55
  and
• 54:56
  my
• 54:56
  love
• 54:56
  of
• 54:57
  dance
• 54:57
  and
• 54:57
  movement
• 54:58
  and
• 54:58
  the
• 54:59
  joy,
• 54:59
  the
• 54:59
  absolute
• 55:00
  joy
• 55:00
  I
• 55:00
  had
• 55:01
  playing
• 55:02
  with
• 55:02
  my
• 55:02
  children
• 55:03
  in
• 55:03
  this
• 55:04
  way.
• 55:04
  That's
• 55:04
  very
• 55:05
  inspiring,
• 55:05
  how
• 55:05
  we
• 55:05
  fueled
• 55:06
  our
• 55:06
  time
• 55:07
  when
• 55:07
  they
• 55:07
  were
• 55:07
  little.
• 55:08
  Well,
• 55:09
  thank
• 55:09
  you
• 55:09
  so
• 55:09
  much
• 55:09
  for
• 55:10
  being
• 55:10
  a
• 55:10
  guest
• 55:10
  on
• 55:11
  the
• 55:11
  Adventures
• 55:11
  in
• 55:12
  the
• 55:12
  Heart
• 55:12
  of
• 55:12
  Children's
• 55:12
  Book
• 55:13
  Authors
• 55:13
  podcast.
• 55:14
  Your
• 55:14
  generosity
• 55:15
  of
• 55:15
  time
• 55:16
  and
• 55:16
  your
• 55:17
  insights
• 55:17
  are
• 55:18
  going
• 55:18
  to
• 55:18
  benefit
• 55:18
  aspiring
• 55:19
  children's
• 55:20
  book
• 55:20
  authors
• 55:20
  and
• 55:21
  readers.
• 55:22
  Oh,
• 55:22
  thanks.
• 55:22
  New.
• 55:23
  Oh,
• 55:23
  you're
• 55:23
  more
• 55:24
  than
• 55:24
  welcome.
• 55:24
  And
• 55:24
  we
• 55:25
  promise
• 55:25
  to
• 55:25
  provide
• 55:26
  the
• 55:26
  audience
• 55:26
  with
• 55:27
  links
• 55:27
  to
• 55:28
  Alison's
• 55:29
  website.
• 55:29
  Your
• 55:30
  website
• 55:30
  is
• 55:30
  so
• 55:30
  fun
• 55:31
  because
• 55:31
  you've
• 55:32
  got
• 55:32
  pictures
• 55:33
  of
• 55:33
  children,
• 55:34
  toddlers
• 55:35
  in
• 55:35
  action.
• 55:36
  So
• 55:36
  I
• 55:36
  really
• 55:37
  believe
• 55:37
  that
• 55:37
  people
• 55:37
  will
• 55:38
  go
• 55:38
  to
• 55:38
  your
• 55:38
  website.
• 55:38
  They'll
• 55:39
  get
• 55:39
  a
• 55:39
  sense
• 55:39
  of
• 55:40
  who
• 55:40
  you
• 55:40
  are,
• 55:40
  and
• 55:40
  like
• 55:41
  you
• 55:41
  said,
• 55:41
  it's
• 55:42
  your
• 55:42
  personality
• 55:42
  coming
• 55:43
  through
• 55:43
  the
• 55:44
  website.
• 55:44
  And
• 55:45
  we'll
• 55:45
  also
• 55:45
  provide
• 55:46
  links
• 55:46
  to
• 55:46
  your
• 55:46
  social
• 55:47
  media
• 55:48
  and
• 55:48
  lovely.
• 55:49
  The
• 55:50
  other
• 55:50
  thing
• 55:50
  I'd
• 55:50
  like
• 55:50
  to
• 55:50
  say
• 55:50
  to
• 55:51
  people,
• 55:51
  if
• 55:51
  you
• 55:51
  enjoyed
• 55:52
  this
• 55:52
  episode,
• 55:52
  please
• 55:53
  hit
• 55:53
  the
• 55:54
  subscribe
• 55:54
  button
• 55:55
  to
• 55:55
  listen
• 55:55
  to
• 55:55
  future
• 55:56
  episodes.
• 55:57
  And
• 55:57
  feel
• 55:57
  free
• 55:58
  to
• 55:58
  share
• 55:58
  this
• 55:58
  episode
• 55:59
  with
• 55:59
  anyone
• 56:00
  inspired
• 56:02
  or
• 56:02
  who
• 56:02
  enjoys
• 56:03
  hearing
• 56:03
  about
• 56:04
  Allison
• 56:05
  and
• 56:05
  her
• 56:05
  book,
• 56:06
  Sunny
• 56:06
  Steps,
• 56:07
  loves
• 56:07
  to
• 56:07
  dance,
• 56:08
  and
• 56:09
  just
• 56:09
  you
• 56:09
  can
• 56:10
  feel
• 56:10
  Allison's
• 56:11
  enthusiasm.
• 56:12
  We
• 56:13
  hope
• 56:13
  you
• 56:13
  enjoy
• 56:13
  the
• 56:13
  listen.
• 56:14
  Thank
• 56:14
  you,
• 56:14
  Allison.
• 56:15
  Well,
• 56:15
  thank
• 56:15
  you
• 56:15
  for
• 56:15
  having
• 56:16
  me.
• 56:16
  It's
• 56:16
  been
• 56:16
  a
• 56:17
  pleasure.