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The Kenny Report | 15 April · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 3: We've reached the midway point of the campaign and I'll
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  Speaker 3: give you an exclusive revelation about how Labor MPs enjoy
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  Speaker 3: pretty much the same tax advantage they want to deny
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  Speaker 3: first home buyers under the Coalition's housing plan. And I'll
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  Speaker 3: show you how the ABC has attacked Senator Jacenter navajimpa Price,
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  Speaker 3: suggesting that as an indigenous politician, she needs to get
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  Speaker 3: permission wherever she goes. National's leader David littl prab will
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  Speaker 3: joined me as Russian military plans to move into our
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  Speaker 3: neighborhood have been revealed. Also Kristen Tate on Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: and Ukraine, as well as a cracking panel with Stephen
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  Speaker 3: Senna Tiempi on Christy McSweeney where I'll show you how
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  Speaker 3: the tills pump out unnecessary carbon emissions during their electioneering.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Let me share with you.
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  Speaker 3: Exclusive revelation that exposes the stunning hypocrisy of the federal
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  Speaker 3: Labor government when it comes to housing policy and the
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  Speaker 3: coalition's tax deduction plan. As you know, Peter Dutton's game
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  Speaker 3: changing policy is to allow first home buyers, if they're
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  Speaker 3: buying or building a new house rather than an established one,
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  Speaker 3: to claim the interest on the first sex six hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars of their mortgage as a tax
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  Speaker 3: deduction for five years. This means potential savings of more
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  Speaker 3: than ten thousand dollars a year in mortgage payments for
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  Speaker 3: first home buyers, and Labor opposes it. The alb and
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  Speaker 3: Easy Labor government's preferred alternative is to spend taxpayers money
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  Speaker 3: building low cost homes, even if they haven't actually got
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  Speaker 3: around to finishing any just yet.
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  Speaker 4: Is a single person living in one of these houses from.
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  Speaker 2: This program we've built a couple of as a.
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  Speaker 4: Single person actually moved into one of.
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  Speaker 5: These, We've built a couple of thousand houses, twenty eight
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  Speaker 5: thousand more in Heaven Upeline right now, and there'll be
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  Speaker 5: fewer a your supposal because you want to cut the
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  Speaker 5: Housing Australia Future Fund so that free fewer homes.
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  Speaker 4: Not a single person who's living in one of these houses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Labour's approach.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, its funding promise equates to about
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  Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars per home. So Lord, Lord, knows
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  Speaker 3: what's going to get built or when. But when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to the coalition's groundbreaking plan to make home loan
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  Speaker 3: interest costs tax deductible for first home buyers, Labor says no,
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  Speaker 3: it rejects it outright.
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  Speaker 6: This is a policy that has never been supported, wasn't
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  Speaker 6: supported by then the entire time that they are in government,
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  Speaker 6: they did nothing about housing.
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  Speaker 7: That policy that the coalition cooked up in twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 7: it's not going to build a single new home around
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  Speaker 7: our country, and it is not going to get a
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  Speaker 7: single person into home ownership who wasn't already going to
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  Speaker 7: get into home ownership. Like what a waste of money.
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  Speaker 2: So you have it.
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  Speaker 3: Labor is stridently opposed to interest rate tax deductibility for
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  Speaker 3: first home buyers.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the kicker.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes to Labour's stand, you won't believe the hypocrisy.
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  Speaker 3: Labor MPs are opposing a taxation benefit for first home
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  Speaker 3: buyers that they actually get themselves. Under Taxation Ruling ten
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  Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety nine, it's made clear that under the
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  Speaker 3: heading for additional property purchased or rented by members and
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  Speaker 3: used as accommodation for work related travel, there is provision
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  Speaker 3: for politicians to ensure deductions are allowable for expenses including
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  Speaker 3: in financing, holding, and maintaining that property.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, federal.
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  Speaker 3: Politicians can claim the interest payments on the mortgages for
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  Speaker 3: their second homes as a tax deduction a range of conditions,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but I understand many polies have done this,
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  Speaker 3: some for places in canber and others for second homes
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  Speaker 3: in their state capitals. In fact, the Treasurer Jim Chalmers
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  Speaker 3: is one of many politicians with a second home in Canbra.
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  Speaker 3: It is appropriately listed in his Register of members' interests,
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  Speaker 3: along with a mortgage on that same property. Now, I
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  Speaker 3: asked the Treasurer's office whether he claims the interest on
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  Speaker 3: that mortgage as a tax deduction, and we're yet to
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  Speaker 3: receive a response, but the point remains clear. Regardless, however,
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  Speaker 3: many politicians use this provision. It is a tax deduction
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  Speaker 3: they are entitled to. So it's a shocking double standard
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  Speaker 3: right now for labor, the alban Easy Labor government is
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  Speaker 3: opposing a first home buyer's interest rate tax deduction when
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  Speaker 3: a similar tax deduction is now available to all.
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  Speaker 2: MPs for a second home.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Labor MPs have it for themselves now for their
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  Speaker 3: second homes, but they want to deny it to young
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  Speaker 3: people trying to buy their first homes. Seems just a
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  Speaker 3: little unfair, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Let me show you.
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  Speaker 3: A shocking case of racial double standards in this country,
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  Speaker 3: racial discrimination promulgated.
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  Speaker 2: By the ABC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the ABC that you pay for, the taxpayer funded,
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  Speaker 3: supposedly objective national broadcaster, pushing racial division. And it's done
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  Speaker 3: this by targeting the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians, senator
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  Speaker 3: just sent to Namberjimper Price. It came to a head
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  Speaker 3: in Bunbury in southwest Western Australia last week where Naberjimber
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  Speaker 3: Price and other Liberals were fronting a campaign town hall meeting.
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  Speaker 2: But it was the Senator from the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 3: Who wore the brunt of an ugly protest to.
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  Speaker 8: Go to seek the pross, to go to see to
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  Speaker 8: go ho ho.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the use of ho ho there is pretty offensive,
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  Speaker 3: but this is typical of the abuse thrown at Namba
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  Speaker 3: Jimper Prize over many years. But of course in its
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  Speaker 3: reports the local ABC, apart from incorrectly portraying the event
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  Speaker 3: as one related to the Indigenous Voice also, predictably, just
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  Speaker 3: gave the protesters a platform. Instead of criticizing the intimidating
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  Speaker 3: and abusive protesters, the local ABC radio station.
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  Speaker 2: Ran their attacks and took up their arguments.
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  Speaker 6: We never That's why all of us is sating here
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  Speaker 6: today are pretty upset about it, because she didn't come
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  Speaker 6: through the.
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  Speaker 2: Proper procedures or law and culture.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mind that she would come, but I wish
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  Speaker 4: she had the decency to go and talk to our
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  Speaker 4: elders first. That's the way this meant to be. You
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  Speaker 4: don't come into somebody's other that's another Buda Land country
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  Speaker 4: per se without permission.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you heard it right.
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  Speaker 3: These anti coalition anti Senator Naberjebber Price protesters main gripe
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  Speaker 3: was that the senator had not come to them, had
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  Speaker 3: not sought permission to visit the town of Bunbury, and extraordinarily.
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  Speaker 3: The ABC presenter Andrew Collins put this to Naberjebba Price
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  Speaker 3: as though it was a reasonable complaint.
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  Speaker 9: Firstly, I don't know any other person who is subjected
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  Speaker 9: to this sort of conduct or the expectation that your
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  Speaker 9: freedom of movement might be restricted because some individuals feel
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  Speaker 9: that I should be living by protocols that they have set.
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  Speaker 3: It's a pretty simple point, isn't it a fairly basic
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  Speaker 3: right that a person, any Australian should be allowed to
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  Speaker 3: move around their own country without deferring to anybody else
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  Speaker 3: for permission. But the ABC didn't seem to get it.
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  Speaker 3: They seem to think that because Nampi jipper Price is Indigenous,
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  Speaker 3: or perhaps because she's a politician, or because she's a
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  Speaker 3: woman or a conservative, who knows, maybe for all those reasons,
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  Speaker 3: they seem to think she needs to ask permission to
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  Speaker 3: travel the country.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this blog.
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  Speaker 10: Even if the Coalition or elected and you become the
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  Speaker 10: Minister for Indigenous Australians, is this people just need to
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  Speaker 10: put up with this.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't like it, put up.
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  Speaker 9: With what would you go anywhere in this country and
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  Speaker 9: seek out who you believe the traditional owner is in
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  Speaker 9: order to then therefore have the permission to enter onto
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  Speaker 9: Is that something that all Australians you think should be
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  Speaker 9: subjected to? Because I don't believe that that should be
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  Speaker 9: the case.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. His name is Andrew Collins, the ABC host.
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  Speaker 3: He's paid by you to host radio at the ABC,
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  Speaker 3: and after all all that, he still didn't seem to
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  Speaker 3: grasp that he was advocating for basic rights.
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  Speaker 2: To be stripped away from Nampa jimp for price.
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  Speaker 10: Do you think you'll still be able to earn the
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  Speaker 10: respect of people like we just heard from.
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  Speaker 9: Well, what I will say is I'm not going to
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  Speaker 9: bow down to the demands of people who wish to
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  Speaker 9: control my movement. So yeah, that will be the way
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  Speaker 9: that it is basically for anybody in Australia in twenty
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  Speaker 9: twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Just extraordinary, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait until the next labor politician or labor
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  Speaker 3: woman or labor indigenous person turns up in Bunbury or
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  Speaker 3: Albany or anywhere else in the country and we see
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  Speaker 3: the ABC journalists grill them about whether or not they
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  Speaker 3: got permission to turn up. Yeah, I'm sure that'll happen.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely gobsmacking stuff and an insight into the virtue signaling
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  Speaker 3: mindset and the ideological buyer us at the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: While we're on the ABC, remember that reporter Mark.
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  Speaker 3: Willisey who was caught out over a report that edited
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  Speaker 3: vision and audio to put in extra gunshots and change
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  Speaker 3: the order of events to give the false impression that
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  Speaker 3: rather than fighting suspected terrorists. Our soldiers were murdering unarmed civilians.
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  Speaker 11: Revealing an astonishing difference between the source vision and the
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  Speaker 11: version of events told by the ABC's Mark Willisey, which
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  Speaker 11: starts with six rounds of firing, then a single warning
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  Speaker 11: shot becomes six.
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  Speaker 12: To me, it appears they.
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  Speaker 13: Literally added x gunshots.
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  Speaker 1: That's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 14: So I fell off my chair when I saw this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the ABC ended up saying that that was all
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  Speaker 3: an unfortunate accident.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody was really at fault.
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  Speaker 3: But now Willisi is facing a complaint from the Australian
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  Speaker 3: War Memorial over a four corners report about its expansion.
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  Speaker 3: The story apparently created the false impression that construction work
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  Speaker 3: was going on while the last post was being played.
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  Speaker 3: The War Memorial says that has never happened and would
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  Speaker 3: never happen. The ABC just cannot help themselves, can they?
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  Speaker 3: While we're on the media, I thought you might want
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  Speaker 3: to see some of the heavy shoes that were put
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  Speaker 3: to the Prime Minister on the campaign trail today.
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  Speaker 2: One of them related to his rugby league team.
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  Speaker 10: Prime Minister, have you spoken to Premier Men's about getting
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  Speaker 10: the Rabbit O's Italian stadium?
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  Speaker 6: I think Premier mint is very aware of my view.
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  Speaker 6: You have this stadium there that half the time is
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  Speaker 6: left empty.
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  Speaker 2: It should be.
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  Speaker 6: Used and taxpayers deserve to get maximum used for the
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  Speaker 6: taxes that they're paid.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then in the middle of this election campaign, can
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  Speaker 3: you believe it, we heard about his local golf course
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  Speaker 3: considering new stepped in to help save Marrickville golf Course
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  Speaker 3: to keep that eighteen holes.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that more park of course ship may.
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  Speaker 6: At a royal Marrickville golf course past sixty two eighteen
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  Speaker 6: holes will be there for as long as I'm the
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  Speaker 6: local member and as long as theas a labor controlled
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  Speaker 6: local council. It is a multipurpose facility. And not only
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  Speaker 6: do people play golf. There's yeah, at the risk here
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  Speaker 6: of really going down a cavertle hole. Lewis the cavertle holes.
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  Speaker 6: His birthday parties there every year on the first green
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  Speaker 6: and fair Way.
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  Speaker 3: I remind you this bloke is the prime minister of
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  Speaker 3: a significant nation. He was also asked about a Vegemite
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  Speaker 3: band for an Ossie Cafe in Canada.
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  Speaker 2: What's your message to Canada and this Ossie Cafe owner.
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  Speaker 6: I stand with the Ossie Cafe owner. I can confirm
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  Speaker 6: here today that I am pro veggiemite, and indeed I
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  Speaker 6: actually put a lot of veggiemite on my toast when
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  Speaker 6: I ate bread.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's news you can use, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: But even when there was a serious question put to him,
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  Speaker 3: this was about his apparent hubris, because he said in
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  Speaker 3: the podcast that he's talking.
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  Speaker 2: About a third third term.
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  Speaker 3: He's talking about campaigning for a third term when he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't even won a second term yet. Well, even when
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  Speaker 3: he was asked about this, he diverted again just to
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  Speaker 3: froth and bubble.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I'll just commit to four or five beepwks record.
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  Speaker 6: I have a bit of a tradition of watching a
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  Speaker 6: Star Wars movie. I made the fourth because I quite
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  Speaker 6: appreciate the sense of history there, and I'm an old
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: Star Wars guy. To get that out of the way,
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  Speaker 6: the first three movies are the best.
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  Speaker 2: What a rioting time it must be at the lodge.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister even waxed lyrical about how he apparently
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  Speaker 3: uses a gender quota system at these media conferences.
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  Speaker 6: I give a gender thing. Okay, I've been doing it
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  Speaker 6: for three years. I go boy, girl, boy, girl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: have you just everyone else has noticed in the gallery
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  Speaker 6: because otherwise what happens, what happens you might have noticed,
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  Speaker 6: is blokes that yell out first. So I as a
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  Speaker 6: commitment to equity, something that has been noticed by many
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  Speaker 6: of your colleagues. I've done that for three years and
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  Speaker 6: I'll continue.
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  Speaker 2: To do it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, those poor little shrinking violets like I don't know
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  Speaker 3: Lease Sales and Sam Bade and they really need some
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  Speaker 3: help from their Prime minister, don't they. How condescending and
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  Speaker 3: a little presumptuous for a member of the socialist left,
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  Speaker 3: I would suggest judging who is male or female without
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  Speaker 3: even asking first how they.
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  Speaker 2: Choose to identify.
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  Speaker 3: Now, it would be happy to have the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 3: back here anytime for an interview about none of that.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, Let's go to David little Proud, the Nationals
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  Speaker 3: leader leader, joining us live from Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Good to speak to you again, David.
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  Speaker 3: I want to start off on the housing policy, because
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  Speaker 3: it's a big policy announced by Peter Dutton on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: It's a huge issue in this country housing affordability. Interest
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  Speaker 3: rate deductions on mortgages are a common practice in some
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  Speaker 3: European countries.
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  Speaker 2: And in the US, but it's a big policy move here.
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  Speaker 3: I find it extraordinary now that labor's opposing this, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that today that they get access as
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  Speaker 3: all MP's do to making that same tax deduction on
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  Speaker 3: their second homes in Canberra and elsewhere.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, and Chris, I'll declare I'm one of those. I
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  Speaker 16: claim a deduction on the property they own in Canberra.
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  Speaker 16: I'm not going to be a hypocrite, but i want
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  Speaker 16: to see young people get into a home and this
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  Speaker 16: is an opportunity to give them a tax deduction.
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  Speaker 1: This is what it's targeted at.
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  Speaker 16: But what we've done is make sure it's about increasing supply.
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  Speaker 16: We haven't said this is about an existing dwelling. We've
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  Speaker 16: said it has to be one that's going to be
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  Speaker 16: built because we've got a supply issue. And we're the
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  Speaker 16: only ones that are saying the policies that we're putting
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  Speaker 16: forward is about supply.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is why it's important.
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  Speaker 16: To get a differentiation about what Anthony Albanese is talking about.
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  Speaker 16: But we're simply saying to young people there is hope,
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  Speaker 16: and it might be that you have to start off
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  Speaker 16: in a townhouse in the middle of town or in
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  Speaker 16: one of the suburbs, not necessarily with a full bedroom,
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  Speaker 16: double lock up garage home, but it's what you can afford.
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  Speaker 1: As my mum and dad did in Chinchilla.
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  Speaker 16: They bought they built a three bedroom home with one
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  Speaker 16: bathroom and a garage on the side because that's all
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  Speaker 16: they could afford. So what we're saying to these young
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  Speaker 16: people of Australia, we're going to give you hope that
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  Speaker 16: if you want to go out and have a start
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  Speaker 16: in life, do what you can afford, and we're going
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  Speaker 16: to support you. We're going to support you because we've
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  Speaker 16: got an issue around supply and that's just one of
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  Speaker 16: the sweets but of measures that we're going.
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  Speaker 1: To put in place.
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  Speaker 16: But the biggest one too, mate, is immigration. Until we
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  Speaker 16: get immigration under control, we are tinkering at the edges
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  Speaker 16: and we are going to be the ones that have
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  Speaker 16: the courage to face into immigration. We can't bring in
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  Speaker 16: one point eight million people, and the people we do
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  Speaker 16: bring in this country, we are giving the biggest prize
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  Speaker 16: we can give to any person on this planet, a
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  Speaker 16: ticket to Australia. So why wouldn't we bring in some plumbers,
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  Speaker 16: some electricians, some tilers and some roofers to build supply
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  Speaker 16: rather than dog groomers and martial.
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  Speaker 1: Arts and structures. Yes, Dowd has prioritized.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, we're just going to get back to common
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  Speaker 16: sense and it doesn't necessarily have to cost you a
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  Speaker 16: lot of money. But we've got to give young people
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  Speaker 16: some hope.
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  Speaker 2: We sure do.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to focus on this hypocrisy because there
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  Speaker 3: will be plenty of labor politicians who enjoy that deductibility
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  Speaker 3: of interest payments on their second homes in Camera and
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  Speaker 3: they pretend that sort of deductibility is aren't affordable and
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  Speaker 3: unworkable to give that to first home buyers to give
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  Speaker 3: them a head start.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, and literally we're no different to anyone else in
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  Speaker 16: this country. And yes we have different circumstances of having
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  Speaker 16: to go to Canberra, but so too to young people.
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  Speaker 16: And so what we're saying to young people is that
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  Speaker 16: if you take that big step, particularly in terms of
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  Speaker 16: trying to increase supply, this is a supply measure. It's
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  Speaker 16: not about increasing demand, it's about a supply measure. Why
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  Speaker 16: wouldn't we do that but for us to sit in
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  Speaker 16: Canberra the two hundred and twenty seven politicians that are
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  Speaker 16: given a very privileged position to go to Canberra and
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  Speaker 16: to shape this nation's future. Why wouldn't we shape it
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  Speaker 16: thinking about young people in our minds, about how we
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  Speaker 16: can give them the start to be able to take
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  Speaker 16: an opportunity that we get to take, an opportunity to
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  Speaker 16: have every year in our tax return. I just think
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  Speaker 16: that this is a unique opportunity to think outside the
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  Speaker 16: square and do what we can in increasing supply and
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  Speaker 16: making sure it's targeted about new dwellings, because you know,
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  Speaker 16: if we're building new dwellings and they're taking those up,
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  Speaker 16: that builds supply behind them, where other Australians who aren't
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  Speaker 16: first aime owned buyers can actually take up that supply.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: That's common sense.
• 19:47
  Speaker 16: That's what Peter and I are just trying to bring
• 19:49
  Speaker 16: back to this conversation, just some decent common sense.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Well, we do have out of control immigration. It's far
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: higher than what Labor said it would be. They don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: seem to be able to get it down. You do
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: have a cost of living crisis, it's an electricity pricing
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and supply crising, the housing crisis, and you're putting up
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: clear policies to deal with some of these issues, yet
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the polls are not shifting for you. They're favoring labor increasingly.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: What's going wrong for you at the halfway point of
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: this election campaign?
• 20:18
  Speaker 16: Yeah, Chris, I think this is actually more a twenty
• 20:21
  Speaker 16: nineteen election than it is a twenty twenty two election.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think the national.
• 20:25
  Speaker 16: Polls are reflective of the hyper local campaigns that are
• 20:29
  Speaker 16: taking place there. And I think to your point, it's
• 20:32
  Speaker 16: exactly about cost of living about in particularly as you
• 20:35
  Speaker 16: get out of the inner suburbs where there is not
• 20:39
  Speaker 16: necessarily a bigger cost of living crisis as it is
• 20:41
  Speaker 16: you get at further out, they're not feeling it as much.
• 20:44
  Speaker 16: And I think what's important is that what we're not
• 20:47
  Speaker 16: walking away from the national polls and what they reflect,
• 20:50
  Speaker 16: what we're seeing now we're internal polling, is that as
• 20:53
  Speaker 16: you get out where Australians are struggling, and we're saying
• 20:55
  Speaker 16: to them, we're going to give you a tax cut
• 20:57
  Speaker 16: of twelve hundred dollars an individual, ty four hundred family
• 21:01
  Speaker 16: who are struggling to pay their mortgage, struggling to fill
• 21:04
  Speaker 16: the car up, struggling to put food on the table,
• 21:06
  Speaker 16: We're going to give them a tax cut.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: But we're also going to.
• 21:09
  Speaker 16: Say to every Australian that drives a car, every time
• 21:12
  Speaker 16: you fill it up, you're going to fill up and
• 21:14
  Speaker 16: save on average fourteen dollars every time you do that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 16: That goes back into your pockets. But that's before you
• 21:20
  Speaker 16: talk about business business being able to save out of
• 21:22
  Speaker 16: their wallets and be able to drive in your cost
• 21:25
  Speaker 16: of living. We've just simply got to talk about the
• 21:28
  Speaker 16: here and now and our legacy about saying we're going
• 21:31
  Speaker 16: to face into the economy's problem. Energy is the economy
• 21:35
  Speaker 16: and unless you're prepared to fix that with taking Australian
• 21:38
  Speaker 16: gas and an Australians use it first, because Anthony Albanezi
• 21:41
  Speaker 16: was part of the government that sold it all out
• 21:43
  Speaker 16: of this country and didn't let us to use it
• 21:45
  Speaker 16: first and then have nuclear energy come in. We are
• 21:48
  Speaker 16: kicking this product out of the road that costs you
• 21:50
  Speaker 16: seven billion dollars.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Already, David Little Proud, thanks so much for joining us.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: We are out of time, David Little Proud. They're the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Nationals leader.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: They're going to get cracking on that message.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Because there's only eighteen days to go to a polling
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: day and early voting starts in seven days, that's next Tuesday.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Let's got Todnita warn Now, who's with the Master Builders Australia.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: She's the chief executive, joining us live from Canberra. The
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: need to tell us about the housing policies. You've got
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: a big focus from both sides of politics at their
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: launchers and their campaigning so far this week.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Which is your preference?
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: Well, it's interesting, Chris, I think the Coalition is a
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: tad in front. They've got their tax deductibility on the
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: flip side, the ALP talking about ten billion dollars for
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: one hundred thousand new homes utilizing government owned land. That's
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: not a huge amount of detail there, and they've both
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: committed to an expansion in different ways of the deposit
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: scheme five percent deposit scheme for first homeowners. What's disappointing
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: us though, for really both sides of politics, is that
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: we need the capacity to deliver and if we're going
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: to build these homes for all Australians, as you quite
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: rightly point out, we've got a housing crisis, we do
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: not have enough homes, then we also need people to
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: do it. We also need to get rid of the
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: quagmire of planning and building a patroble delays that is
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: just costing us money.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Let me jump in there.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: We've got plenty of people coming into this country, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: obviously we need to improve the mix. We need to
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: get prioritize construction tradees coming into the country rather than
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: all the other categories that are there. And also, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: hear what you're saying about planning. Federal government can't do
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: much about that. State and local governments have to make
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: it easier to get.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Planning approval for construction.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: But don't we need the state governments to free up
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: more land as well.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: To develop.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, Chris, we know that there is greater capacity in
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: this country where a large, large country graphically with not
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: a huge amount of people in it, And we know
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: it takes forever for suburbs to be approved. We know
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: it takes forever to then get the critical infrastructure in
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: to actually ensure we can then subsequently build homes. Now,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: both parties have got some policies in relation to those things,
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: but not a huge amount. They're not holding state governments
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: to account. The federal government gives billions and billions of
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: dollars to state governments every year. Through a variety of
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: partnership agreements, and they do not hold them to account.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: I'm old enough to remember the Hilna reforms where we
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: got huge changes in the nineteen nineties under regulation change
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: because of a carrot and stick approach that was provided
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: by the federal government. More needs to be done, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: we're asking both these major parties to really stump up,
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: stop tinkling around the edges, and let's get real on planning.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: Let's get real on people and to ensure that we
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: can build because at the moment construction costs gone up
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: forty percent. A lot of us to do with people
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: and planning.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Anita, I appreciate it, Anita, warn
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: their master builders Australia.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It's a good point.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: In fact, one of the first things a new prime
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: minister should do is convene a national meeting on all this,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: get all the premiers and local government leaders together and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: just cut their way through this, because you've got to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: be able to do this stuff faster and cheaper so
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that we can get housing available and affordable.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break on the other
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: side of catch up with Tim Blair.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: You won't believe the latest bit of alarmism from the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Climate Council. Let's check in with Tim Blair from Daily Telegraph.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: He joins us from the Wimmera in Victoria. I love
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: to get his take on campaign. He good to talk
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: to you again, mate. I noticed you you're intrigued by
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the Tanya plipasek Anthony Albanezi non exchange of pleasantries on Sunday.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: What's your take on this? Tanya says, you just didn't
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: want to get any germs.
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: Yeah, the miskiss. But labor do have a bit of
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: a problem with girl germs going quite a ways back.
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: I mean, we all remember, and I mentioned it in
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: the column that we all remember the strategies that labor
• 26:12
  Speaker 13: state governments would use when they were totally on the
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: way out. Put a girl in you know, Joe Kernery
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: or nearly New South Wales come a Lawrence in wa.
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: It was like a last ditch thing and it got
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: them to sort of you know, the tick of approval
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: that they put a woman in charge but also got
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: them out of the way at the same time was
• 26:31
  Speaker 13: kind of cynical. And we also had, of course my
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: favorite moment, and this kind of got swept away in
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: all the heat of the moment in twenty thirteen when
• 26:39
  Speaker 13: Kevin Rudd took over from Julia Gillard and immediately changed
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: that year's election date from September fourteen to September seven,
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: just because he wanted to have no girl germs on
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: the date. It was so petty and so fantastic, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: it just got raised because you know, the love media
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: do do help that labor from time to time.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: They sure do, the love media, and I thought it
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: was extraordinary today as I showed at the top of
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the program this little insight from Anthony Albanezi saying that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: he's been going boy girl, boy girl at his press
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: conferences for three years and this is because the blokes
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: yell out first and get the questions first.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Now he's trying.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I just find that so condescending towards the female journalists.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know some of these characters, I mean,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of Samantha Maiden or lead Sales they turn out.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Do you think they're shy about getting their question in there?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Though they need some special help from the prime minister?
• 27:32
  Speaker 15: Yeah?
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a prime minister or
• 27:34
  Speaker 13: a press conference. It's not a nine year old's birthday party.
• 27:37
  Speaker 13: You know, it's a slightly different level of importance in
• 27:40
  Speaker 13: terms of the boy girl boy girl scheduling. But yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: that's that's that's probably the most simple minded quota structure
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: we've heard of from this government, and that's saying something.
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: They've gone a fair way down the path on those
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: sort of things. But that's just great. Need to change
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: of interviewees just getting rather Yeah, that's terrific.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I think Labour did it for a while while in
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: the Rudd Gillard years they went boy girl back.
• 28:03
  Speaker 13: To boy, teaching us from a top down way.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Yet let's check you in on the Climate Council, because
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: they've been telling us for the last decade or so
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: that we're all doomed. I wonder if they're getting any
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: more positive in their election campaigning.
• 28:20
  Speaker 14: Since the day you were born, all I've ever wanted
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: was to.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Keep you safe.
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: But the world's changing so fast and I worry about
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: protecting you from climate.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Change all of breaking.
• 28:34
  Speaker 14: Having this election, Let's vote like our kid's future depends
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: on it, because.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Cheap as there's been people voting Greens and teals and
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: labor for years and they still haven't stopped natural disasters.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It's incredible, isn't it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: I Mean, this is the the sort of the bottom
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: line of all greens and the climate activist propaganda is
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: that if we do the right thing, everything will be stabilized,
• 29:05
  Speaker 13: There'll be no more problems, everything will be sweet, because
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: it's basically a religious plea. What I love though about
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: this aid in particular in this campaign, is that shouldn't
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: if they're worried about the climate, shouldn't they be telling
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: people don't have kids, don't populate, because you know, human
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: beings are the enemy in this equation, we'll always you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: be consuming things and being bad for the environment. Why
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: are they watching televisions instead of destroying the televisions or
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: not buying the televisions. Why are they in what looked
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: like very nice houses instead of caves. Why isn't this camp?
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: Why is this campaign on television? Why is it being
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: broadcast nothing but sense at all?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Why are they flying around the world to cop conferences. Well,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: i'll show you later on in the program I go.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I'll save it for the panel, But I've got some
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: pictures that demonstrate the teals just unnecessarily adding two emissions
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: for the sake of their election campaigns.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The hypocrisy is always there.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I want to go to something you've brought to our attension,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and it's an independent campaigning in the seat of.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Claire Kate Hook and she's at the top there. So
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: say no to the men in hats, sirac.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It's the men in hats that are the problem in Kolaire.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: What she's not into protection from skin cancer and the sunlight?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: What what's her problem with hats.
• 30:23
  Speaker 13: I've got no idea. A maid of mine sent me this.
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: I think he lives in the electorate. And there's an
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: anti hat kind of thing. I mean maybe when you're
• 30:33
  Speaker 13: when you're totally politically correct and you can't risk offending
• 30:36
  Speaker 13: people on any other basis. It comes down to headwear
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: and that's the only thing you can raise as a
• 30:42
  Speaker 13: point of difference. But yeah, to men without hats is
• 30:47
  Speaker 13: the way to go. And if you're wearing a hat,
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: well you know you're starre to be condemned. And no
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: voting for a hat person. I don't know what it means.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Someone suggested there's a song here of men without hats.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know any thing about it. Let's have a
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: look at it. We can leave behind round around to mine. Yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: men without hats. If you have a hat on, you're
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: no friend of mine. Many are around there. It's a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: country electorate.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: There'll we stay all sensible men will be wearing hats
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: and women. Now, let's have a look at some other
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: politicians here, some of them famous for their hats. Bob
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Katter's hat used to have its own Twitter handle. I
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: mean he's two sensible to get it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Even Albo Dom's hat when he goes out bush. But
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: wait for this.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Look a woman, a female politician in a hat.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: She's apparently not good enough for Calaire either.
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: It's it's a terrible situation, is it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 13: I've always loved Albow's magical indigenous hat that he used
• 31:46
  Speaker 13: to put on whenever he was in Aboriginal communities, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: then it would just vanish when he was working towns again.
• 31:52
  Speaker 13: And it was like how in twenty twenty two he
• 31:55
  Speaker 13: would have very different messages when he was in the bush,
• 31:57
  Speaker 13: and then then we went to an urban environment, very
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: geographically specific policies.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it disappeared with these yes T shirt see you later, Tim,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Tim Blair there in the way, and.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a yes T shirt. Too.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I even wore it the Sharry Markson's fortieth. Now I've
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: got to get to a break. After that, I'm going
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to catch up with Kristen Tate as Donald Trump doubles
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: down on his criticism of Vladimir's Lensky. With the bloodshed
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and fighting continuing in Ukraine, Donald Trump has doubled down
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: on his criticism of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: When you start a war, you're going to know that
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: you can win the war.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: You don't start to war against somebody that's twenty times
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: you says, and then hope that people give you some missiles.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Now, as I put to Kristen Tates, it's pretty insulting
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: for Donald Trump to still be suggesting suggesting that it
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: was Vladimir Lensky who started that war.
• 32:56
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, look, Zolensky has though, been acting very
• 33:00
  Speaker 17: foolishly and has made things a lot more difficult for
• 33:03
  Speaker 17: Trump trying to negotiate a peace deal between Putin and Zelensky.
• 33:07
  Speaker 18: And meanwhile Putin kind of.
• 33:09
  Speaker 17: Sees the fractured relationship between Trump and Zelensky, and he's
• 33:15
  Speaker 17: then in bolden to keep advancing and fighting But you know, Chris,
• 33:19
  Speaker 17: what I think is that Trump may be realizing that
• 33:23
  Speaker 17: coming to a deal is going to be much harder
• 33:25
  Speaker 17: than he initially thought, and by making unrealistic promises on
• 33:29
  Speaker 17: the campaign trail, he may have boxed himself in by
• 33:33
  Speaker 17: creating these sort of unrealistic expectations for timelines here, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 17: that also embolden's Putin.
• 33:39
  Speaker 18: But at the same.
• 33:40
  Speaker 17: Time, having said all of that, Trump is a fantastic
• 33:43
  Speaker 17: deal maker and he's dealing with this problem that was
• 33:46
  Speaker 17: created by the previous administration largely although you know this,
• 33:51
  Speaker 17: this goes back decades, and if someone can get it done.
• 33:55
  Speaker 18: It is him. So there are lots of moving pieces here.
• 33:58
  Speaker 18: And you know, argument there.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I've got no argument there. There's no doubt that Putin
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: was in boldened.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Under Obama to march into Crimea, and he marched into
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Ukraine when.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: The Democrats were back in the White House. It may
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: not have happened.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: If Donald Trump had had a second.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Term back then. But and you've got to judge Trump
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: on his outcomes now.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: But if America is to be this beacon of freedom
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: around the world, which it traditionally has been, and which
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: what we will want it to be to have Trump
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: demonizing Vladimir Zelenski and not condemning Vladimir Putin is a
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: bit rich.
• 34:36
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I agree with you.
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: I will say here in America, many people are furious
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: at the behavior of Zelnski when he came to the
• 34:46
  Speaker 17: White House. I mean, we have given his country so
• 34:50
  Speaker 17: much of our hard earned money. You know, this has
• 34:53
  Speaker 17: been going on for years now, basically blank checks. We're
• 34:56
  Speaker 17: funding pensions over there, We're funding small businesses over there
• 35:00
  Speaker 17: while our smart small businesses have crumbled, And it was
• 35:03
  Speaker 17: insulting to many to see his behavior in the Oval office,
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: with Trump kind of rolling his eyes and scoffing at
• 35:09
  Speaker 17: the president and the Vice president.
• 35:11
  Speaker 18: However, I agree with you.
• 35:12
  Speaker 17: Strategically, I'm not sure what Trump's angle is here. I
• 35:16
  Speaker 17: will also say that while many Americans, of course want
• 35:19
  Speaker 17: this war to end, I mean all Americans want this
• 35:21
  Speaker 17: war to end, most people here right now are much
• 35:24
  Speaker 17: more focused on their healthcare, the economy, and immigration. That
• 35:27
  Speaker 17: seems to be where Trump is focused as well. But yes,
• 35:31
  Speaker 17: most people want this war to end. And I'm not
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: sure if Trump's strategy with blasting Zelenski publicly.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's shift to the economy, because that's whey.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump has been incredibly active of light two. He's
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: announced this pouse on tariffs, although he's got a ten
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: percent tariff on everyone and extremely high tariffs on China,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: but he says he's not backing down.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: He's the lightest from the president.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt anybody.
• 35:56
  Speaker 19: But the end result is we're going to get to
• 35:59
  Speaker 19: the position of great news for our country.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: We're the greatest economic power in the world if we're smart.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: If we're not smart, we're going to hurt our country
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: very badly.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Christ In the stock markets have re cavity. Of course,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: there is a pause.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: We'll see what deals can be done in these ninety
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: day pause. What's the expectations in the US at the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: moment as to whether tariffs are a good thing or
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: a bad thing, whether they're going to be there to stay,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and whether the US economy is going to recover or
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: we'll see more uncertainty in the weeks and months to come.
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: We look, if you talk to average Americans, they are
• 36:34
  Speaker 17: pretty much split between party lines. If you talk to Democrats,
• 36:38
  Speaker 17: they say the tariffs are all full and the economy
• 36:40
  Speaker 17: is imploding. If you talk to Republicans, people who voted
• 36:43
  Speaker 17: for Trump. They think this is great. Do I think
• 36:46
  Speaker 17: they will be long lasting? Not for most countries. No,
• 36:50
  Speaker 17: the administration has been in talks with many of our allies.
• 36:53
  Speaker 17: They have said that they're very close to deals with
• 36:57
  Speaker 17: many of our allied nation and so we'll see what
• 37:01
  Speaker 17: happens in the coming days. But look, the fundamentals here
• 37:06
  Speaker 17: are that for years, for.
• 37:08
  Speaker 18: Decades, this country, America, has.
• 37:10
  Speaker 17: Been taken advantage of by the world. We have given
• 37:13
  Speaker 17: endless foreign aid to countries around the world, and we've
• 37:17
  Speaker 17: been taken advantage of, and many of these countries that
• 37:20
  Speaker 17: we've been helping have closed their markets to us.
• 37:22
  Speaker 18: It hurts American national.
• 37:24
  Speaker 17: Security, and it's hurt American cities that have been absolutely
• 37:29
  Speaker 17: hollowed out by the dying of American industrialization. So stainly
• 37:35
  Speaker 17: they had to change, and hopefully this is a short
• 37:38
  Speaker 17: term tool for that change.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: You certainly haven't been hurt by Australia. You have a
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: tried surplus with us, yet we're still copying tariffs from
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 37:46
  Speaker 18: Think we'll come to a deal with Australia.
• 37:48
  Speaker 17: I think we'll come to a deal with Australia fairly quickly.
• 37:50
  Speaker 18: That would be my hope.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be the hype here as well. I've got
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to get you.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I've got to get your thoughts on the previous incumbent,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: because I think this is laughable news.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I laughed out loud when I read it this morning.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And that is the president.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden apparently is going to write a book about
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: his presidency. Now, this is going to be a real
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: page turn or is it like a day five? This
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: job is hotter than I thought. I'm going to the
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: beach day six.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting on the beach again. I mean, there wasn't
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of action.
• 38:24
  Speaker 18: Well that's not what the book is going to say.
• 38:26
  Speaker 18: I mean, this is Joe Biden's presidency. I mean it
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: was a total embarrassment.
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: But Biden and his family want to publish these memoirs
• 38:35
  Speaker 17: to kind of spin what actually happened and give his
• 38:39
  Speaker 17: account of his presidency and explain why he stepped.
• 38:42
  Speaker 18: Aside to let Kamla run. But you know, everyone.
• 38:46
  Speaker 17: Realizes Biden is an embarrassing footnote in American presidential history.
• 38:51
  Speaker 18: But this is his opportunity to spin it and to
• 38:54
  Speaker 18: try to reshape the narrative and what will be written
• 38:56
  Speaker 18: in the history books. Do I think this book will
• 39:00
  Speaker 18: sell many copies? Of course not.
• 39:02
  Speaker 17: But there are some hardcore Biden voters out there who
• 39:04
  Speaker 17: will buy it. They won't read it, that it will
• 39:06
  Speaker 17: sit on their shelf, you know, collect the dust and hey,
• 39:09
  Speaker 17: Biden family, they love cash grabs, so Biden will get.
• 39:12
  Speaker 18: To pok a little pocket a little bit of cash
• 39:14
  Speaker 18: here too.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: But the other point here, Christien, of course, is that
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden won't write this.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Someone will write it for him.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Someone might read it to him in some steps to
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: get his approval. But my strong advice if you want
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: to read a book on the Bidens, don't wait for
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: this one. Just get out and buy Miranda Devine's books
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: on Hunter Biden exactly.
• 39:35
  Speaker 18: That's exactly right.
• 39:36
  Speaker 17: Yes, he didn't run his own presidency, he won't write
• 39:39
  Speaker 17: his own book, and yeah, you're right, you probably won't
• 39:41
  Speaker 17: even read his own book that he wrote.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Kristen, Thank you, Chris.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Can't wait for that to Biden book's copy fantastic. Now
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: on the other side of the brank, you're going to
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: catch up with Christy McSweeney and Steven Sana t Empire
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about how the Grains were planning
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: to have a party fundraiser, a big dance party on
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Anzac Day into our Tuesday night panel now with Chrisy
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: McSweeney who's with the pr Council.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: She's the managing director.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: There also Steven sena Tiempo Radio two Double See Breakfast
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: host live from Canberra.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And guys, I want to talk to you about the Greens. Right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: The Greens had planned in Western Australia are big parties
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: a big dance party to raise money for their political campaigns.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Have a look at the ad here. They're going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: be running it in Perth. They're going to be running
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: it on Anzac Day.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Can you believe if we can just see the ad
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: for this dance there, it is the Greens party party
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: on Anzac Day and it was going to be a
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: big deal and unsurprisingly a few political leaders, including Opposition
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: leader Peter Dutton, slammed them over and have a look.
• 40:54
  Speaker 19: I think it's completely inappropriate and I think it reflects
• 40:57
  Speaker 19: the poor values that the.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Greens stand for.
• 41:00
  Speaker 19: Just say to every young Australian who's proud of their
• 41:02
  Speaker 19: grandfather who fought in the war, proud of a cousin
• 41:06
  Speaker 19: who's serving in the Australian Defense Force. Now understand that
• 41:09
  Speaker 19: the Greens have complete contempt for our Defense Force personnel.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: The Greens, of course would be the partners.
• 41:15
  Speaker 19: In government with Anthony Alberzi and mister Albanezi should condemn
• 41:19
  Speaker 19: these actions.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well Albernezi didn't a strong effort there by Peter Dutton.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Though Stephen and the Greens back down. They'ven't canceled this event.
• 41:31
  Speaker 12: Well, and so they should too. But does a surprise
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: anybody that the Greens would do this? I mean, the
• 41:35
  Speaker 12: most UnAustralian political party in Australia denigrating our most sacred day.
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: It doesn't surprise me. It disgusts me. I think it's disgraceful.
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: But I just roll my eyes and shake my head
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: these days with anything the Greens do.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was disgusting, but I thought Christie it
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: really highlighted the difference too, But between strength and weakness
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: when it comes to Dutton and alber and EZI because
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Alberzi was asked about this instead of aiming the Greens,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: you know his friends really of course he loves the Greens.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: He doesn't get into parliament without the Greens. He just
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: said something general about ANZAC day, whereas Peter Dutton called
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: them out for their Australia hating attitudes.
• 42:15
  Speaker 15: Of course, there's a twelve percent national vote. At the
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: last twenty twenty two election, Greens were at twelve percent.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: All of those preferences go to labor.
• 42:23
  Speaker 15: Young people don't understand that if they vote Green, it
• 42:26
  Speaker 15: goes to labor. They genuinely do not understand that, which
• 42:30
  Speaker 15: is another discussion we have to have about Civics education
• 42:33
  Speaker 15: in our schools, perhaps replacing some of the other things
• 42:36
  Speaker 15: that are taught in our schools. But what is actually
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: extraordinary about this is how tone death the Greens are
• 42:42
  Speaker 15: to the community of Western Australia. I'm a proud West Australian.
• 42:46
  Speaker 15: It's an sas town, it's a defense town. It's almost
• 42:50
  Speaker 15: as bad as going to Townsville or to Tamworth and
• 42:53
  Speaker 15: talking down the service of men and women in our
• 42:57
  Speaker 15: defense forces.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah here here now.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: The other thing Elbow's done is a podcast where he's
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: happily talked about how after he wins this election, this
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: one's in the bank, he'll then be campaigning again for
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: a third term in three years time.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 43:13
  Speaker 14: You're telling me. If the Nightly rings me up and
• 43:15
  Speaker 14: says Latika, will you come out and cover the campaign
• 43:18
  Speaker 14: in twenty twenty eight, it's you that I'll be shadowing.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: If I'm successful on the third of May, then yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: You've be very welcome. I look forward and I'll guarantee
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: you another podcast during that campaign.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for that one either. Christy's getting a bit
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: ahead of himself, isn't.
• 43:36
  Speaker 15: He well for a man who went into his first
• 43:40
  Speaker 15: election campaign with no policies and then you know, barely
• 43:44
  Speaker 15: has any of these times. I don't know what he's
• 43:46
  Speaker 15: going to come up with with another three years, Chris.
• 43:49
  Speaker 15: I don't know how much more debt we're going to
• 43:51
  Speaker 15: be and by the time we get to that point.
• 43:53
  Speaker 15: But I think politicians when they talk to podcasts or
• 43:56
  Speaker 15: they talk to FM radio, they put on there it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 15: not the Canberra Press Gallery Voice. No, try and be
• 44:02
  Speaker 15: a bit jovial, but that's a slip up and you
• 44:05
  Speaker 15: would expect better from the Prime Minister and someone who's
• 44:08
  Speaker 15: spent a long time in Parliament battling journalist and this
• 44:12
  Speaker 15: is a professional press gallery journalist, Letika Burke. She's been
• 44:15
  Speaker 15: at it, you know, for a long long time. She's
• 44:17
  Speaker 15: very experienced. It's not an FM radio host who was
• 44:20
  Speaker 15: chatting away to there.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: The Hubris is extraordinary though, isn't it, Stephen. And the
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: point is he's been trying to bag Peter Dutton for
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: him talking about which house he would live in if
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: he won, which wasn't a good look for Dutton.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Sure, well this is Albo just as bad.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: He's talking about living in Kiribilly and the Lodge for
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: twelve years.
• 44:41
  Speaker 12: But Chris, as I've said for a long time, this
• 44:44
  Speaker 12: is a bloke who never expected that he was ever
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: going to be Prime minister. Now that he's on the
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: gravy train, he doesn't want to get offered. Let's hope
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: that the place he is living in is on the
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: cliff top in Capa Kabana come the fourth of May
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: when he's having his Star Wars parting and eating his
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: vegemite or whatever it is that he's going to be doing.
• 44:59
  Speaker 12: But I'm just that the arrogance, it's it's almost like
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: there's an expectation that well we kind of just stuck
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: across the line last time. Well let's just keep going. Hey,
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: I mean this gravy train has been fantastic.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Look.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I checked in on the main press conference today and honestly,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: some of the questions and more importantly some of the
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: answers from Albow, it sounded like he was addressing, you know,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: a kid of a classroom of primary school kids, have
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: a listen.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: I have a bit of a tradition of watching a
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: Star Wars movie. I made the fourth. I actually put
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of veggiemte on my taste when I ate bread.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: Lewis the covertle Holes his birthday parties there every year
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: on the first Green and fair Way.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Christy, did you need to know any of this? And
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: does it help?
• 45:49
  Speaker 17: No?
• 45:49
  Speaker 15: I didn't either, and we didn't show that clip there.
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: But the Prime Minister made a thing about his gender
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: even nurse. In choosing journalists for press conference, he made
• 45:59
  Speaker 15: a point saying he always chooses boy girl, boy girl.
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: I mean, isn't that sort of against the non binary
• 46:07
  Speaker 15: you know, gender non pacific viewpoint?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: And everybody laughed, and.
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: I think it is.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: You know, if that was a.
• 46:13
  Speaker 15: Coalition MP that said that, I don't know what we
• 46:17
  Speaker 15: would have seen.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Well, let's stay with you, Christie, because I made that
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: point at the top of the program that he's making
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: presumptions about what gender people are.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: But I want to get your view as a woman
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: obviously on.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: This, because he also said the reason he does this
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: is because the men yell out quicker and the women
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: don't get to ask a question. Now, how insulting is
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: that to Sam Maiden, Lee Sales, Latika Burke and the Light.
• 46:41
  Speaker 15: Look, there is a lot of research that says in
• 46:44
  Speaker 15: corporate Australia women tend to not speak up and not
• 46:46
  Speaker 15: use their voice. But Chris, you and I we've worked
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: in politics and news for front of twenty five years
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: and no woman goes to camera without using her voice
• 46:58
  Speaker 15: in the press gallery myself and myself included.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: You know, people at one time used to say I
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: was an aggressive journalist, but I've got nothing on those
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: and no one's going to stop them asking a question
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: when they want to and as as they should be.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: But I just find it quite condescending. Exactly.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: It's not the wallflowers where you reckon Stephen You're happy
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: to hear about kvoodles and whatnot.
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: Well, I was just going to say, clearly he's never
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: met the women in my life. But anyway, moving right along.
• 47:30
  Speaker 20: Look, the thing that really annoyed me about that is
• 47:32
  Speaker 20: that there are people out there who are canceling their
• 47:34
  Speaker 20: Netflix subscriptions so they won't be able to watch Star Wars.
• 47:37
  Speaker 20: They're deciding whether or not to buy veg you might
• 47:39
  Speaker 20: on the shelves. This bloke has done nothing about the
• 47:41
  Speaker 20: cost of living crisis, and he's this is the flippant
• 47:44
  Speaker 20: approach he's taking to a job that he thinks he's
• 47:46
  Speaker 20: now going to hold for twelve or fifteen or twenty years.
• 47:50
  Speaker 12: I mean, it's just.
• 47:52
  Speaker 20: Look, it frustrated me.
• 47:53
  Speaker 12: It frustrates me more than anything that this has been
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: the most luck lackluster election campaign I've seen in my
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: time following politics, and it's a long time and this
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: bloke is just a Look, I'm not going to say
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: what I think it might be defametory.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the reason I highlight this is
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: not just for the giggles.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: It's like, this is a consequential election.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: This country is in strife and this is the garbage
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: we're being fed, and he's being allowed to feed the country.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: It is outrageous. I want to show you some more
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: hypocrisy too that I noticed on the weekend. I was
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: riding my bike around Sydney's Centennial Park a couple of
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: times on the weekend with my son and.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I noticed this. Look.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: This is a big Allegra Spender poster on a big
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: diesel powered truck driving around the streets. Christie completely unnecessarily
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: churning out all these diesel fumes and carbon emissions to
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: get her elected. I thought she was in the EV's
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: and renewable energy.
• 48:49
  Speaker 15: Wow, Chris, It's such a paradox, isn't it. People spooking
• 48:54
  Speaker 15: the next zero agender and climate change being the greatest
• 48:58
  Speaker 15: concerned using an aircraft. I'm not accusing her of doing
• 49:02
  Speaker 15: so many people in corporate life like to travel that way,
• 49:06
  Speaker 15: and now we have the trucks, and all that says
• 49:08
  Speaker 15: to me is that she is making a lot of
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: money from a lot of donors if she can afford
• 49:16
  Speaker 15: one the fuel to drive the trucks around and two
• 49:19
  Speaker 15: billboards that size, and.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: She's got a plenty.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: She's got an army of little billboards running around the area,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: as have the tills around the country.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, guys. Good to catch up with you.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Stephen Senta Tiempo from two Double CE and Christy McSweeney
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: from pr Council. We are just about out of time.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: As I look to the clock, we are very much
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: out of time. We'll be going to Peter Kredlin in
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: just a second. I'll be back tomorrow night at five. Also,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I'll be joining Paul Murray tomorrow night as we pick
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: apart Tomorrow Night's Leaders debate as well on the ABC.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I'll see tomorrow at five. Here's Peter