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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and the NBA, Jazz upsetting the Cavs last night, James Harden top 10 all time scorer, When is good the ene... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: As you were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Shaw on ESPN seven hundred ninety two on FM.
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  Speaker 2: We welcome in our resident NBA Guru, Gordy Chiasa.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy welcome.
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  Speaker 4: How are you, Sean? I'm doing fine? Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Conversation with Gordy Chiasa brought to you by our friends
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  Speaker 2: over at Aladdin Industries. Your Utah v Lux Steeler, Uh, Gordy,
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  Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz just a couple of games ago, a
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  Speaker 2: few nights ago, forgot to show up, didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: shoes on, didn't know what was going like? Maybe did
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  Speaker 2: someone call them all half an hour before the game
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  Speaker 2: started and remind them they needed to play?
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  Speaker 3: How does it happen?
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  Speaker 2: Because it does happen to teams on odd occasions. How
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  Speaker 2: does it happen that a game can go so bad
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  Speaker 2: that you're setting franchise records for poor performance and poor scoring?
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  Speaker 4: What happened because you're not ready to play mentally and physically?
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  Speaker 4: And the game you alluding to that was Saturday night
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  Speaker 4: where the where the opposing team came along and they
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  Speaker 4: were ready to play from the dead go. And then
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  Speaker 4: last night's game, it was the opposite, where the Jazz
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  Speaker 4: were determined to win. They came out and played a
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  Speaker 4: great game the whole time in the second half, especially
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  Speaker 4: the outscore the Cavaliers sixty nine to fifty, so it's
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  Speaker 4: plus nineteen points in the second half. But it's how
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  Speaker 4: they did it and showing. The biggest factor in the
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  Speaker 4: game was that the Jazz rebounding was sensational. That you said,
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  Speaker 4: Nurkice and Larry Market and Kevin Love and Philipowski. They
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  Speaker 4: got thirty two rebounds themselves and the front court of
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  Speaker 4: the Cavolers only got thirteen, So thirty two to thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: That was Jared Allen, Evan Moberley, and DeAndre Hutton were hunting.
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  Speaker 4: We're absolutely outplayed badly by the front court of the Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: Good for them, So.
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  Speaker 2: What is a bounce back like that after a poor
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  Speaker 2: performance on Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: Tell you about this Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: Team that they have heart and that they can do it.
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  Speaker 4: And let's not forget the Jazz also had some really
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  Speaker 4: tough losses, like last week they lost to the thunder
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  Speaker 4: the best team in basketball by record. They lost by
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  Speaker 4: two points. So the Jazz are focused. They have a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of people that can play. Last night game also
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  Speaker 4: is that Kante George outplayed outfought outduels Donvin Mitchell and
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  Speaker 4: Cayante thirty two points, nine assistance, five rebounds. And again
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  Speaker 4: Larry Markins having a career year where he's averaging twenty
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  Speaker 4: seven point nine points per game. Last night he gets
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  Speaker 4: twenty eight to twelve. So with tells us that the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz do have talent and when they're focus and everybody's
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  Speaker 4: ready to roll, that they've been successful. But the biggest
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  Speaker 4: factor in the Jazz as far as just the last
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  Speaker 4: we'll say ten days mine if they're giving us to
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  Speaker 4: Charlotte Hornets, has been use of Nurkice. So Nurkice, I
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  Speaker 4: call him showing, I call him sir, Sir mix it
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  Speaker 4: up a lot in the length. I love it, Yeah, sir,
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  Speaker 4: mix it up a lot. It's a hammering soul. That
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  Speaker 4: guy starts hammering people. But he gets off the bus
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  Speaker 4: all right. And so in the last in the last
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  Speaker 4: seven games use of Nurkage, he's averaging sixteen point three
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  Speaker 4: points per game and twelve rebounds and it's all muscle
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  Speaker 4: and hustle, and he's been a big factor for the Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: Jazz right now they have fourteen wins, fourteen and twenty
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  Speaker 4: six And I know it sounds bizarre saying it, but
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  Speaker 4: the playing tournament, the Grizzlies or the ten seed right
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  Speaker 4: now they have seventeen wins. So the Jazz mathematically are
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  Speaker 4: three three wins away from being in the play in tournament.
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  Speaker 4: So they're right there. If they're right there, they choose
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  Speaker 4: to And that's the question. Will they Jazz choose to
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  Speaker 4: keep this lineup together or they make some changes? That's
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  Speaker 4: the question.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what does your gut tell you about the answer
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  Speaker 3: to that question.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to make sure that they pick they pick
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  Speaker 4: this year in the draft, which means that once the
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  Speaker 4: rate they're protected, they they'll make some changes or not
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  Speaker 4: play people. That's what manstinks tell me that Jazz point
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  Speaker 4: of view, that's better long term for them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for the listeners. Right now, the Jazz first round pick
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  Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty sixth strip is protected one through eight.
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  Speaker 4: If the Jazz pick number nine, that pick goes to
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  Speaker 4: the of all people. Okay, see Thunder.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody wants to see the Thunder get more young assets.
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  Speaker 2: They're already young and talented enough. You don't want to
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  Speaker 2: see that happen. Going back to this Cavs game, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned Kiante George out playing Donovan Mitchell in the
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  Speaker 2: locker room or in practice or at shoot around or
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  Speaker 2: what is the conversation like, when you've got a young
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  Speaker 2: player with the capabilities that Kante George is showing going
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  Speaker 2: up against the guy of Donovan Mitchell's caliber, going up
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  Speaker 2: against the team who has that type of guy, do
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  Speaker 2: you say, hey, look, we're going to cut you loose
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  Speaker 2: this game. We want to see how you can do it, Like,
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  Speaker 2: don't let Donovan out play you. I mean, how do
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  Speaker 2: you talk to these guys when they know they're going
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  Speaker 2: up against someone that is in some ways their equivalents,
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  Speaker 2: even with the same franchise in the past.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure the Kochi sta have made that point
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  Speaker 4: to him that be in a strike mode, be an attacker.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what he did the whole game. He went after,
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  Speaker 4: he went after the front the back court of Donvin
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  Speaker 4: Mitchell and Darius Carlin and Sam Merrill, and they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: stay in front of him, and he lived. He lived
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  Speaker 4: in the lank Also, Donvin Mitchell helped him by playing
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  Speaker 4: literally the whole game. Do you realize last night's game
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  Speaker 4: that cant de George didn't commit a foul, Larry Markining
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  Speaker 4: didn't commit a foul defensively, and most of all this
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  Speaker 4: guy fouls all the time in a good way, you said,
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  Speaker 4: Nurkrig committed only one foul. So that illustrates the point
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  Speaker 4: about where the Cabs were passive and the Jazz were
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  Speaker 4: absolutely aggressive, taking a ball to the basket and hammering
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  Speaker 4: the caves on the board. So Chiant de George he
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  Speaker 4: was ready to play from the beginning to being a
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  Speaker 4: strike mud with the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Gordon Chase is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 2: Lebron James has a special twenty three seasons patch on
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  Speaker 2: his jersey now, and I was listening to a conversation
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  Speaker 2: this morning talking about you know what that means for him,
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  Speaker 2: what that means for the game, how you keep him
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  Speaker 2: in the game if this is his last year or
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  Speaker 2: for next year is his last year, no one's ever
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  Speaker 2: done it. As long as he has, no one's ever
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  Speaker 2: done it, certainly at this level for as long as
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  Speaker 2: he has. I don't know if we need a commemorative
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  Speaker 2: patch on his jersey, but just it does highlight his
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  Speaker 2: contribution to the game over two plus decades.
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  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, very much. Yeah, So the NBA is honoring
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  Speaker 4: him as far as almost like an appreciation award as
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  Speaker 4: far as having that patch. Now, the players, many of
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  Speaker 4: the players really respect Lebron to the ultimate to play
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  Speaker 4: that long. Think about it, for twenty three years, he's
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  Speaker 4: been top of his game, and every scouting report, everyone
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  Speaker 4: has tried to slow him down, and no one really has.
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  Speaker 4: And so now he's still really a top twenty five
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  Speaker 4: player in the NBA. And we'll find out this is
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  Speaker 4: last year or not. But it is a well deserved
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  Speaker 4: award that he minus so long time ago when he
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  Speaker 4: said I'm taking my talents to Miami, and that was
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  Speaker 4: like a big thing. When he did that. That was
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  Speaker 4: the only I would say thing he did at a character.
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  Speaker 4: Rest of the time he's played well, he's stayed straight
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  Speaker 4: in a straight path as far as the NBA, and
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  Speaker 4: he's been an absolutely model citizen. Boar.
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  Speaker 2: Do you you told James you feel like that maybe
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  Speaker 2: the Bulls and the Suns are underrated.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, right, now, let's collect the Suns. The Sun's
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  Speaker 4: really having a great year that people realize the Suns
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  Speaker 4: right now they are sixteed, they're twenty four and fifteen,
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  Speaker 4: and so if the playoffs started today, they've beat in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs. They've been playing, ironically, the Nuggets, who are
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  Speaker 4: overachieved also with so many injuries they have this year.
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  Speaker 4: So let's go quick. Quick with the Suns is that
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  Speaker 4: they have the best record since Christmas Day. They're none
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  Speaker 4: in two since then, so as we speak right now,
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  Speaker 4: they're none in two. Their rookie head coach Jordan Ott
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  Speaker 4: has done a good job with their team as far
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  Speaker 4: as getting focused. So with that said, Devin Bookers, we
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  Speaker 4: all like Trement, this scorer averaging twenty five points a
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  Speaker 4: game and six point four assists, the record canadian's under
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  Speaker 4: your team. You really like him. So the Phoenix Suns
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  Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks, whose reno is very ultra aggressive. He's avaging
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  Speaker 4: twenty one point two points per game and one point
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  Speaker 4: two steals. And speaking of steals, how do you turn
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  Speaker 4: around a team is that you steal the ball and
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  Speaker 4: you're aggressive. So the Sons are first in the NBA
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  Speaker 4: in most steels per game at ten point four, so
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  Speaker 4: they steal the ball getting transition. And then this guy
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  Speaker 4: was in the Chier League for the last two years.
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  Speaker 4: He was undrafted. He's played in every game this year.
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  Speaker 4: Now he starts with them. His name is Colin Gillespie.
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  Speaker 4: He was undrafted in twenty twenty two out of Villain
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  Speaker 4: Over and he's given them tremendous play by him playing
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  Speaker 4: starting at point guard. Now that allows Devin Brooker to play.
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  Speaker 4: Its not your position as far as being a scorer
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  Speaker 4: and a passer also would score first. He's averaging thirteen
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  Speaker 4: point two points per game, five assists, one point four steals,
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  Speaker 4: and shooting from three point range forty percent. And so
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  Speaker 4: that's why they've done a tremendous job the Suns at
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  Speaker 4: twenty four and fifteen. And it just shows you very
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  Speaker 4: similar to the Jazz with cant de George. When the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz play him off the ball, he's an absolute dynamic scorer.
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  Speaker 4: And when the Jefs put in the game Isaiya Kalia.
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  Speaker 4: He's a willing pass happy player. So last night he
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  Speaker 4: gets eight assists in the game. The Jazz win and
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  Speaker 4: count de George gets what thirty two points. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: not one thing, it's everything. White teams win, the pieces
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  Speaker 4: fit on the floor and they play in harmony.
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  Speaker 3: Wonderful, Cody, what's your list today?
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  Speaker 4: All right? List today? Hey Sean? How about the NFL
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  Speaker 4: playoffs with those with the Bears. So with that said,
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  Speaker 4: the Bears are having having a wonderful season, is not
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  Speaker 4: over yet. With that said, the Jazz play tomorrow night
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  Speaker 4: in Chicago. Tonight, the Bulls played tonight in Houston. So
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz going to be in Chicago watching the Bulls
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  Speaker 4: play in Houston, and then later on the Jets back
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  Speaker 4: to back Wednesday night with the Bulls and they go
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  Speaker 4: to Jazz play Thursday in Dallas. So it's both teams
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  Speaker 4: that were going to play shorthanded as far as what
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  Speaker 4: being no rest of between. But that's part of the
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  Speaker 4: NBA list today. A dozen of the greatest Chicago Bulls
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  Speaker 4: players remember now a long time ago. The Bulls started
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  Speaker 4: as an expansion team. Their first year was nineteen sixty
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  Speaker 4: six sixty seven. They're the only team in NBA history
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  Speaker 4: to qualify for the playoffs in their first season as
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  Speaker 4: an expansion team, and Let's talk about expansion, because you
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  Speaker 4: know Sean, they might expand the NBA, which they roll with,
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  Speaker 4: possibly a team from Seattle and a team that added
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  Speaker 4: from Vegas. When the Bulls entered the NBA, the expansion
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  Speaker 4: fee was one point six million. Let's fast forward it
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  Speaker 4: to two new teams coming to the NBA, Seattle and Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: I'm assuming the expansion fee will be roughly shown nine
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million to one billion dollars for the
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  Speaker 4: privilege to join the NBA. That so much the NBA
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  Speaker 4: has grown. Here we go. Here's the quick list. The
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  Speaker 4: twelfth greatest average Bulls players. Number twelve Bob Booza he
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  Speaker 4: played back in the sixties and seventy the average twenty
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  Speaker 4: points per game. Number eleven Horace Grant, he had those goggles.
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  Speaker 4: Three NBA titles, All Star, All NBA Defensive Team number ten.
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  Speaker 4: Reggie Fais, two time All Star, nineteen points a game average,
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  Speaker 4: Number nine all time Bulls. His nickname was Storman Norman,
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  Speaker 4: Norm Van a Leer, All NBA defensive player, tremendous playmaker.
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  Speaker 4: Number eight. Nickname was the jet Jet, The jet Walker,
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  Speaker 4: All Star player, sweet shooter, eighteen points per game average,
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  Speaker 4: first Korea. Number seven. Nickname was the A Train Artist.
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  Speaker 4: Gilmore is in a Basketball Hall of Fame. Six time
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  Speaker 4: All Star, number five nickname was Butterbean. Bob Love three
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  Speaker 4: time All Star, tremendous all round player, Number five, greatest
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  Speaker 4: average Chicago Bulls player. Nickname was the Worm. Dennis Rodman
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  Speaker 4: three titles with the Bulls, two time Defensive Player of
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  Speaker 4: the Year with the Bulls. Number four, he was my
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  Speaker 4: friend and colleague. His nickname is Mister Bull. Jerry Sloan,
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  Speaker 4: two time All Star, eight time All NBA Defensive Team
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  Speaker 4: number three, Chicago born and rased Derek Ross, three time
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  Speaker 4: All Star with the Bulls and twenty eleven he was
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  Speaker 4: the league MVP. The second greatest bull Player of all time.
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  Speaker 4: We all know he is. He was voted what is
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  Speaker 4: one of the fifty greatest players of all time NBA
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  Speaker 4: with a tremendous all around game. Scottie Pippen six titles,
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  Speaker 4: incredible two way player and the number one player of
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  Speaker 4: all time. You can make a discussion is the greatest
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  Speaker 4: player of all time? Either one or two. Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 4: six titles, six MVPs in the finals, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: make the discussion again, nobody could stop him as far
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  Speaker 4: as one on one. Thus that's my list of the day.
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  Speaker 4: That Jazz play the Bulls tomorrow at United Senate. But
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  Speaker 4: you're just as important the best play also this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Gordy, before we let you go, I have to ask
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  Speaker 2: you one last question pertending to what we got into
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  Speaker 2: at the start of the show today, because you brought
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  Speaker 2: up the NFL playoffs. The Steelers to me are an
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  Speaker 2: example of a franchise there right now has to decide
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  Speaker 2: between staying with what they know is good or taking
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  Speaker 2: a risk to try to be great, because right now
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  Speaker 2: it looks like maybe good is the enemy of great
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  Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They've got this consistency where they
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  Speaker 2: can make the playoffs but not advance in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin, a lot of people think, is the
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  Speaker 2: one responsible for that.
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  Speaker 3: So when you're.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about, you know, your experience with the Jazz, when
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about basketball, football, whatever is good the enemy
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  Speaker 2: of great in your mind? Can you get complacent with
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  Speaker 2: being good or even really good.
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  Speaker 3: And because of that failed to be great?
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  Speaker 1: Ever?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, oh absolutely, And you're judged by the playoffs. So
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  Speaker 4: with that said, the Steels and now have lost seven
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  Speaker 4: straight playoff games in a row, seven in a row,
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  Speaker 4: So that tells us that one the ross is not
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  Speaker 4: good enough, and two they have to make some sort
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  Speaker 4: of change at the top because they're too complacent right now.
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  Speaker 4: And at your point is absolutely well taken, and franchise
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  Speaker 4: is a judge by playoffs success, and that so right
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  Speaker 4: now that I was counseling the Steelers, even though you
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  Speaker 4: love their greediness for a less fit the years, they
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  Speaker 4: need to change as far as their roster and be
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  Speaker 4: at the top. So that's the enemy. As far as
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  Speaker 4: being what good but not great, I agree, Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: I always appreciate your time and your insight, and.
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  Speaker 4: You're great showing the forty nine ers those guys should be.
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  Speaker 4: They showed their heart and courage the other day on
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  Speaker 4: the road trying to just win. And also the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: showed their talent also recently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gordy, I don't know if with my Niners, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it's great, but it is grit for sure.
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  Speaker 2: That's a team that has no business winning playoff games
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  Speaker 2: with all the injuries they've experienced, including in that game.
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  Speaker 3: But we keep going bang bang, Niner gang right, Cordy.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely very much, and that's the that's their coach also,
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  Speaker 4: and that's the whole resilience as far as their team
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  Speaker 4: love it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk again on Thursday. Thanks Gordy, Yes, peace out
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  Speaker 3: showing stay well.
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