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Episode 323- Rick and Elaine Discuss the Book of Job- Episode 25- The Finale · The Burros of Berea Podcast

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  Woo! Welcome back to Rick and Elaine discuss
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  the Bible and in particular the book of Job.
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  Hello, Elaine Rae Clark. How are you today? I'm
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  fine. Thank you very much. It's a bit earlier
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  than usual because we're doing a two hour. So
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  I'm going to have our thinking caps on. We've
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  asked the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us
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  into what needs to be said. And hopefully Rick,
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  it's going to be something that's going to be
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  beneficial to you and myself and to others that
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  are listening. So together as a family, we can
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  really get the understanding of what God is trying
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  to say to all of us. Because like we said earlier
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  on, People don't change. People don't change.
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  Yeah, you're right. They don't. If you'll notice,
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  I'm still the trophy husband. I haven't changed.
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  I didn't notice that, but I'll tell you what,
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  I just was going to ignore it really. I just
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  wasn't even going to mention it. I was just going
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  to bypass it. I took no notice of that at all.
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  Yeah. Just, yeah. Just so you know, I am. Well,
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  I mean, the thing is though, who bought you that
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  mug? My wife. Did she? She bought it for me.
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  Everybody know I am the trophy husband Well,
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  it's better than the cup that I got from my children
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  for Father's Day that said world's greatest dad
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  semi -finalist My father in heaven so Right,
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  right. All right, so look, here's what I'm gonna
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  do. I've told everybody the whirlwind was coming,
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  that this is it. And before we get into the study,
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  I'm gonna read the comments, but I have a story.
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  There's something that I wanna share with you
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  guys. Those of you who have followed this from
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  the get -go, I gotta turn this down and make
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  sure it doesn't make any noise. But those who
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  have followed us from the start, know that I
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  was going through a lot of hardship with death
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  and grief in my family and that, you know, my
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  business was absolutely wrecked, you know, and
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  collapsing and the embarrassment of it and the
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  pride destruction, you know, all that stuff that
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  comes with it. But I had a really cool full circle
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  moment. And how interesting how these things
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  work as we're going through this study of Job.
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  Because when you get to the end of Job, you see
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  something really unique, right? You see that
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  he gets this double portion. But I want everybody
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  to notice that he doesn't get a double portion
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  of children. We're gonna talk about that too,
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  towards the end of this. He has a double portion
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  of livestock and stuff, but he only gains the
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  same amount of children that he had before because
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  those children before matter. they actually still
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  matter. And it's a beautiful picture, but coming
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  through all of this, here I am. And I wanna show
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  you, I just wanna show you guys something, okay?
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  So in this box, it says - Can you put it near
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  the camera, Rick? I sure can. It says RKK. I'm
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  sure you'll see a lion right there. Yeah. See
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  that lion? I do. So RKK stands for a company
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  called Randall King Knives. That's all it means,
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  okay? And - Right after blade show I went back
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  to my shop and I've been I've been getting a
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  ton of orders and I'm so thankful that I'm busy
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  I'm busier that I can handle actually and that's
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  really good but This man calls me out of nowhere
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  and he says my name is AJ. I'm with the company
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  called tactical elements I'm from Ontario, Canada,
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  and I'm a huge knife collector, but I also distribute
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  knives. I have something I want I would like
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  you to make and Could I swing by your shop and
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  I was like sure like when are you gonna be around
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  this area? He said I'll be there in an hour and
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  I was like, oh come on by so he did and he and
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  his wife Jocelyn stopped in and I got to talk
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  to them for about three and a half hours, which
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  was amazing We just had a nice little visit and
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  although I was really really busy. I was very
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  busy at the moment Normally i'm the kind of person
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  like i just i can't take that kind of time to
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  talk to anybody especially somebody i've never
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  met but something told me i needed to just stay
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  and talk to him just for a little while. When
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  karen rogers has been like rick it's seek first
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  the kingdom seek first the kingdom she's my prayer
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  partner me and you elaine we say the same things
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  like this comes up a lot. So as we're talking,
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  he's like, I've got a few of these knives in
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  my collection. I want to show you the one that
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  I want to remake. It's something from the 1940s.
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  He wants to bring it back. It's almost 100 years
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  old, this design of a knife. And I'm like, that's
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  cool, that's exciting. And he comes in with this
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  big crate and he opens it up. And as he's going
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  through all these knives, he pulls out this little
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  box, okay? And he says it's one of his prized
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  possessions. And he has two of these boxes. One
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  of them is not here for a reason. I'll get into
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  that in a minute. But he brings out these boxes,
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  and he pulls it out, and he shows me this knife,
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  okay? Now, I'm a knife maker, guys, so understand
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  this is a knife world thing, okay? And it's very
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  loud, so I'm getting ready to fire it. And it's
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  a very long, beautiful knife, as you can see.
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  You can't have bees in England. But anyway, no,
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  you can't. No, you can't. I mean, they frighten
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  me like guns frighten me. Yeah, they do. We don't
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  have knives. We don't have any. Can't carry a
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  knife. Can't even carry a pen knife. Can't carry
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  a knife like that. No, you can carry this. You
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  can. You can. We sell them in England. We sell
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  them in England. It doesn't matter. I mean, they
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  will. They sell great big machetes in England
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  as well. Oh, yeah. You just you can't carry them.
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  That's fine. That's fine. I understand why they
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  scare you. But anyway. All right. So he pulls
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  this out and he was like, you know, have you
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  ever heard of Randall King knives? And of course
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  I got super excited and I said, I have a funny
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  story for you if you'd like to hear it. And he
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  was like, okay. And I said, I made that knife.
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  The knife that he was showing me, I actually
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  made it. And I was like, and the other one was
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  a black one. And I ended up giving this other
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  knife to my father. But anyway, he says to me,
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  what? And I said, I made that knife. There's
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  a reason. It was in 2004. Randall King who made
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  these knives and got famous in the knife world
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  was from here from my area and he needed a production
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  outfit and I worked for a company called words
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  wire that actually built That constructed these
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  knives and made them for him. He actually embedded
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  in our shop and He was like you're kidding me
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  and I said no and I was like but I have something
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  I want to show you it's even better and I said
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  follow me and I took him out of my office and
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  I walked out on the floor and I said here where
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  I'm standing is where We made them. I said you've
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  come to the place where your little treasured
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  possession was made Wow, and he was floored by
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  that. He was so excited as a knife collector.
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  He said Rick I want you to have both of these
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  knives and I was like, no, I said no, it's your
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  coat your collection I was like, I don't want
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  the knife. I made them. It's okay But he said
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  but he said he said I I am so embedded in the
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  knife world and I love these kinds of stories.
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  And he said it would mean a lot to me that I
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  could give these back to the guy that made them.
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  And I was like, well, Randall King died last
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  year. And so I was like, it would have been awesome
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  if you could have just met him and be like, hey,
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  here's something you made, you know, 20, 22 years
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  ago or whatever. But he said, I really want you
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  to have it. And it was very lovely. And it was
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  full circle for me. and I've gotten this influx
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  like honestly and this isn't bragging listen
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  to me guys be careful what you pray for Rick
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  you listen that's right listen guys this isn't
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  bragging no this is how it works this isn't the
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  prosperity gospel because whatever I'm about
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  to get right now God can take away from me at
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  any moment I'm a steward of whatever it is that
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  he gives me But what I've learned in all of this
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  is that my relationship to him is what actually
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  matters. And that's what he's always wanted with
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  me and with you. Exactly. Well, I think what
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  we're going to study is pointing out to you,
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  basically, if you want to cover everything, God's
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  saying, well, where did you get this from? Who
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  gave it to you? Who can take it away? Who is
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  the one that gifts it? Who is the one? I mean,
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  this is what we're going to go into. You know,
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  God steps into the equation here, and he's the
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  only one that's talking sense. It is. And it's
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  in the way that this book was written. There's
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  so many things about it that just kind of blow
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  my mind. Like, I'll give you a short list. Like
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  the Satan character speaks in the first two chapters.
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  You never hear from him again. Well, he's the
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  prosecutor, isn't he? He's the prosecutor in
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  the whole scenario of the court case. He's prosecuting.
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  I mentioned that a lot of the words that were
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  coming from him were coming out of the mouths
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  of Jobe's friends along the way, right? And then
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  Elihu that shows up on the scene. And then he
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  just dissipates. He comes from nowhere and goes
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  into nowhere. It's the strangest story. I mean,
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  Jobe is such a unique story. There are things
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  about it that really piqued my interest, you
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  know, when he starts talking about... I suppose
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  it's like anything in life, though, Rick, isn't
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  it? I mean, what you really want is the basic
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  meat of the story, all the flouncy bits, you
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  know, like sometimes people say, well, I went
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  down the shop. Oh, yeah. And I took my and I
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  this really nice dress and I say, not really
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  interested in the nice dress you had on unless
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  it's part story, you know, otherwise you spend
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  five minutes on what you took down there before
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  you actually get to the real thing. And I think
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  that what God's done is he's taken here the important
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  information, the discussion, the heart condition.
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  how they've responded and, you know, gone backwards
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  and forwards, and how they've gone down different
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  paths. The more they've spoken, the more their
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  paths have widened. Job's gone off on one tangent,
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  and they've gone off on another tangent. And
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  I think that God's only giving us really what
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  we need to know in our own lives. You know, it's
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  the important things that really matter. You
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  know, like you said, what really matters in that
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  story, which was lovely, is that, wow, it shows
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  you that something can be made there. You never
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  know how many years later something's going to
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  turn up again. that you never even would happen,
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  you know, and, and you think to what's happened
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  in between all of those years, you know, so much
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  stuff and yet things do a full circle. It's very,
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  very strange to me things, you know, and again,
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  like I say, for me, the Pope, the poetry, the
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  love story, I, nobody could write that unless
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  it was God, nobody could inspired, you know,
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  all scriptures inspired. This is inspired. And
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  you can tell that because of the the poetic language
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  is so deep and beautiful and it moves you. And
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  you think, like I said before, I couldn't even
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  write two verses that sound as beautiful as the
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  two verses that I could forget any to. And it
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  would have such depth of meaning. And again,
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  to have 42 chapters with such depth of meaning,
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  I mean, that in itself is crazy. That in itself
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  is crazy. It really is. And that's what I've
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  enjoyed the most about this study, obviously,
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  is getting to know you more, Elaine. We've grown
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  very close. Yeah, likewise. And also all of the
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  people that have been on it. Stayed faithful
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  with us and wanted to encourage us whether they
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  might have only been here just because they wanted
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  to encourage us And that's a beautiful thing
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  to me 100 % but again Rick, I think to myself,
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  you know, I'm not saying this because I don't
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  want people to be here But I think even if nobody
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  was listening I've gained so much from it myself.
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  So one thing something from it and you have that's
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  two people and You know, thank God that other
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  people have found it useful for their lives or
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  that, you know, they've gone in a little bit
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  deeper that they never have done before and it's
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  helped them. So again, for me, it's just totally
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  opened up the idea of, you know, who am I in
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  all of this? And that's why I keep saying, you
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  know, at the end of the day, you know, I've stopped
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  saying, help me Lord to do this, because I mean,
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  as if I'm asking God to help me, you know, I'm
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  just saying Lord lead me, you know, it doesn't
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  say, lead us, it doesn't say help me not. to
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  be tempted, it never leads me not. Exactly, only
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  God can lead, only God can take us into the tree,
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  only God could take us that door that we pass
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  through. We can't find it on our own. And that's
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  the thing for me, it's lead me in to what you
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  want me to see and then how I can change because
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  of it. Because it's all about becoming more and
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  more like Christ, isn't it? It is. Yeah. Ultimately,
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  that's what all of this is about. Yeah. That's
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  what it's all about. That's the image you've
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  got, isn't it? It is. All right. I'm going to
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  read the comments from our last video. Everybody
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  knows this is the finale. It's going to be a
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  two hour special. I'm going to go ahead and warn
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  you now there are going to be bathroom breaks
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  and interruptions and things like that that happen.
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  This is just me in a lane during our normal day
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  of life. Exactly. Come and pull up a chair, put
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  your feet up, get yourself a coffee and talk
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  to your computer. Yeah, and it's like Elaine,
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  you know, Elaine always knows whenever I'm about
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  to close the study. It just means that I've got
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  to go to the bathroom. That's what I do. To pee
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  break. To pee break. That's right. All right.
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  So this comes from Tony Driver. Hi, Tony. Thank
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  you for always being here with us. Great study
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  today, Rick and Elaine. I've already made three
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  songs from today's study. Wow. Well, I would
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  like you to sing some of them, really, Tony.
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  I think that would be nice to hear you sing some
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  of them. Well, she's an incredible songwriter.
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  She writes all these lyrics and puts all this
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  music together Even if you're using AI technology,
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  it's still I promise you guys it takes a little
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  bit of effort And when I say a little bit I mean
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  like you got to really dig in and the fact that
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  she a lot of these when you listen to these songs
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  She's caught the nuggets of what we're talking
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  about here in our study and it shows up in her
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  songs. Yeah He says I continue to be amazed at
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  the connections and insights that come out of
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  job each week the discussion about a lie who's
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  suffering About a lie who comma suffering comma
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  the mediator comma the ransom comma and the coming
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  whirlwind Gave me a lot to think about and a
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  lot of songwriting inspiration. There you go
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  Thank you both for the time and effort you put
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  into these studies I have truly enjoyed learning
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  from your insights and walking through job with
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  y 'all until next time. Have a blessed week Oh
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  bless you that's so sweet Tony hug. She said
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  hugs from the driver family. So hug Hugs, hugs
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  back, and kisses. Again, we've said it before,
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  that's what it's all about. We're not two people
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  sitting here telling people, we think this, we
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  think that, and going backwards and forwards
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  with an argument sort of thing. We're literally
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  asking God to take us through these people's
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  lives, their thought processes. It literally
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  is getting down to the nitty gritty of what they're
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  thinking. and what we can glean from it. And
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  it's so lovely to see that other people can see
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  that that is all we're doing really. Not here
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  to tell you that I'm the be all and end all,
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  because I certainly am not. But I like to give
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  out what I think that God is giving to me. And
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  it's nice to hear what other people have. And
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  again, it's like I say, you know, I can't see
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  what's behind me. Well, I know it's behind me
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  since my house and I see it on the video. I don't
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  know exactly what's behind you because I see
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  it every week. I know, yeah. If I get in the
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  right place, I look like Carmen Miranda. Oh,
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  yeah. Well, I think if I'm in the right place,
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  I look like Carmen San Diego. And you don't even
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  know who that is. Just kidding. Carmen San Diego.
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  Where in the world is Carmen San Diego? I've
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  got garland around my head. I look like I'm crowned
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  with a garland. I don't know if anybody's ever
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  seen this painting that's behind me. This painting.
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  So. anybody that knows me knows that I've been
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  divorced and remarried. But my ex - Indicted
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  to wedding cake. Well, yeah. My ex -wife, Kelly,
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  is a very incredible artist and has been since
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  we were kids. I mean, she was an artist back
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  then when our kids were growing and everything.
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  And after her father died, she painted this image
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  and it's three. Raven or crows. These are more
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  actual Ravens, but Her father Jimmy Laning who
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  is my father -in -law was a very it meant a lot
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  to me Loved the crows around and he talked about
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  crows He knew a lot about them and anytime I'd
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  go camping with him or whatever. He'd always
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  tell me something about crows and She painted
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  that and I actually bought it when I saw it because
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  after he died She painted that and there's a
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  poem that he had written and it's on the back
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  of it Yeah, so I keep it in the office And I
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  told Holly, my wife, today, I was like, please
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  don't be mad at me, but I bought this really
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  expensive thing for my ex -wife, but it's meaningful
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  because of what it is. Well, the thing is, it
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  doesn't really matter whether it's for your ex
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  -wife, it's just a gift that she has, and it
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  means something to you. So when you look at it,
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  it's the picture, isn't it, rather than sort
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  of like, you know, the past life that you had
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  with her. And she wasn't upset at all. I mean,
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  she's also the mother, this woman is the mother
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  of my children, and so she knows. Oh, she knows.
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  Next quote. Next next comment pastor Alan Thompson.
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  Hey brother. Hi Rockstar. Yeah Another great
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  episode from our Rockstar family. Thanks for
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  the work that is the that the both of you put
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  into this It has been a blessing to me personally
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  and I love y 'all and we love you. I'm glad that
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  it was I'm so thankful that this was helpful
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  and Alan so are you to us and yeah, it means
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  a lot I love you and Dina very much and it was
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  immediate family Oh, that's wonderful. That's
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  wonderful. As I say, I've seen photographs of
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  you, which was really nice when Rick went down
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  there. So I have an idea of what you all look
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  like. What does your pin say? What does your
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  pin say? You put your pin right in front of the
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  camera. What does that pin say? Bring it over.
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  Jesus loves you. Wow. That's great. All right.
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  Here's the next one. My daughter bought me these
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  for Christmas. That was very kind of her. Ten
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  of them. Really? Yeah. Seven sons and three daughters.
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  Okay, here we go. Wow. What a great study. This
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  is Heather Lynn Ross. Hi, Heather. Hi, Heather.
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  Wow. What a great study today. Thanks for all
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  the hard work y 'all put into this study. I can't
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  wait for next week. Thank you, Heather. I've
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  got something funny to tell you, Elaine. I don't
• 19:21
  know if I told you this or not, but you need
• 19:22
  to know this. Okay. Are you ready? So when you,
• 19:25
  when you come here to stay with me in August
• 19:27
  and we're going to the Arkansas Eschatology Conference
• 19:30
  together. Yeah. Tony. Driver and her daughter
• 19:33
  Heather who I just quoted are gonna come up and
• 19:37
  they're gonna have Cameron and Jalen and their
• 19:40
  little baby three I call him They're gonna ride
• 19:45
  with us in the van out to Arkansas The baby as
• 19:50
  well. Yes. Oh my gosh. I mean is that gonna be
• 19:54
  sort of like a good thing? It's a great thing.
• 19:56
  Are you kidding me? All right, guys, remember
• 19:58
  what I said at the conference about how babies
• 20:00
  are allowed to cry because I'm an old school
• 20:02
  Baptist. And if Elaine doesn't like it, we'll
• 20:05
  strap her to the top of the van. That's exactly.
• 20:08
  I'll probably get out and hitchhike. The only
• 20:10
  thing is I've probably done a 15 hour flight,
• 20:12
  not really worked with the thing and I'll be
• 20:14
  like this in the car. Yes, I certainly hope so.
• 20:18
  So how many are going to get in that car then?
• 20:21
  Dude, this is a monster van. This is a monster
• 20:23
  van. How far back can they sit? Do you see how
• 20:28
  much Elaine loves you guys? She wants to get
• 20:30
  close and intimate and the minute she hears baby
• 20:33
  and other people she's like, I want them gone.
• 20:35
  I think I'm getting too old for that baby. She's
• 20:38
  so English. so English yes I'm afraid we sort
• 20:41
  of like you know once the babies once the babies
• 20:44
  are born they kick them to the curb we just put
• 20:48
  them out on their own you know like we give them
• 20:50
  to a wet nurse and we say bring them back when
• 20:52
  they're 15 the English are like the ostrich that
• 20:54
  we're gonna read about today all right here we
• 20:58
  go next next next all right this comes you're
• 21:03
  gonna love this youngin how youngin um He's probably
• 21:08
  getting close, I guess he's heading towards two.
• 21:11
  Oh, that's not, well, that's not too bad. They're
• 21:13
  quite sweet at two, aren't they? Mm -hmm. Has
• 21:15
  he done a long time? Or maybe he's going to be
• 21:18
  one. Actually, he's one going into two. That's
• 21:20
  even worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's better.
• 21:24
  Maybe if we get that many. Listen to me. Cameron
• 21:27
  and Jaylen and Heather and Tony, you listen to
• 21:30
  me. Elaine loves babies. She just doesn't want
• 21:34
  this baby all up in her business. Oh my gosh,
• 21:40
  15 hour flights. It's like in cases here, there
• 21:42
  and everywhere. And I'll be like, listen, there'll
• 21:44
  be a little baby in the back, kicking the back
• 21:46
  of my seat. I'll be going like this. No, no,
• 21:50
  no, there'll be plenty. I'm getting one of those
• 21:53
  that I'm renting a large van where there's several
• 21:57
  seats. They have like, you know, the screens
• 21:59
  that go up. I'm not renting. I'm not renting
• 22:01
  a limousine. I'm not doing that. All right, moving
• 22:06
  on. All right, here we go. That's old school
• 22:09
  Baptist. Yes, I'm just saying I find it very
• 22:12
  difficult to be close proximity to a two -year
• 22:14
  -old or one year old. Yeah You're gonna have
• 22:17
  to learn what it means Yes, yes, all right, so
• 22:24
  this comes from Fullmetal Preterist This is a
• 22:27
  first time he's quoted or not commented. It's
• 22:30
  Bobby and Cheryl huddle. They're out of Texas
• 22:32
  I know them. They're so dear to me. I love them
• 22:34
  very much. Hello darlings and their mother -in
• 22:37
  -law, Patricia, she teaches like a Sunday school
• 22:41
  thing for them down there in Texas, and she's
• 22:44
  brilliant. And you'll get to meet her, she's
• 22:46
  at Arkansas. And you'll get to meet Bobby and
• 22:48
  Sherrie Huddle too. All right. Hey Rick and Elaine,
• 22:51
  I just love your studies on Job, but I have a
• 22:53
  question about soon. This has something to do
• 22:59
  with our previous talk somewhere, right? Yeah,
• 23:01
  I know, I read that. wasn't most of the New Testament
• 23:05
  written between 55 and 66 AD so soon was within
• 23:08
  that time frame? This is in regard to my article.
• 23:11
  And then you and I did a recording which has
• 23:13
  not even released yet about not this, but other
• 23:16
  things, not just after the crucifixion 40 years
• 23:19
  later. Love you and Elaine studies. There's so
• 23:22
  many questions and things y 'all have brought
• 23:23
  to life about suffering and God revealing things
• 23:25
  to bring us to Himself. through our suffering,
• 23:28
  y 'all's insight has been amazing. I can't wait
• 23:30
  for your book on this podcast about Job. Oh,
• 23:33
  wow. So that's wonderful. Thank you for writing
• 23:36
  that. That means a lot. Thank you that you're
• 23:38
  on board here. So here's what I'm going to do,
• 23:40
  Bobby and Cheryl, Sherry. Sorry, guys. My brain's
• 23:46
  not working this morning. I'm not going to answer
• 23:49
  that about the soon and the 55 to 66 AD because
• 23:51
  it has nothing to do with our job. But we will
• 23:54
  tackle it later. All right. We talked about it
• 23:57
  later and it hasn't came out yet, but we did
• 23:59
  kind of get into this a little bit. But I'll
• 24:00
  talk to you guys about the late date versus the
• 24:02
  early date of a lot of these books. Because honestly,
• 24:06
  you can go either way you can. Some people will
• 24:09
  say, well, if you go too late, then it screws
• 24:10
  up being a full preterist. Some people say if
• 24:13
  it's early, then it's perfect for it. None of
• 24:16
  this works, just so you know. Church history
• 24:18
  doesn't work with full -priorism. Late -date
• 24:20
  doesn't work with full -priorism. Early -date
• 24:22
  can work technically with full -priorism. Guys,
• 24:24
  I don't have time to get into this. I think sometimes
• 24:28
  what we do is we get bogged down in, you know,
• 24:31
  was it this, was it that? Was it instead of just
• 24:33
  reading the scriptures and saying, well, actually,
• 24:35
  what is it saying to me? What am I gaining from
• 24:39
  it? Does it tell me that there's going to be
• 24:40
  something about me? Can I take this forward into
• 24:43
  my time or the future? Or do I have to read it?
• 24:46
  Like I say, you've only got to say, well, if
• 24:48
  I picked up this book and it said, you know,
• 24:50
  I'm writing to the Galatians that Christ is coming
• 24:52
  soon. I'm thinking, well, I'm not a Galatian.
• 24:55
  You know, I mean, and you've got to go with what
• 24:57
  is soon. I know that sometimes in prophecy, God
• 25:00
  might say soon, but he's talking in prophecy.
• 25:03
  Sometimes when he's given a prophecy, he says,
• 25:06
  like in Daniel, seal up the book, it's not for
• 25:08
  your time. So showing you that it is a late sign,
• 25:11
  but you've got to take it in context. And for
• 25:13
  me, when I read the New Testament, I see that
• 25:16
  Christ has fulfilled all of the scriptures because
• 25:18
  I can read them. I then have to say to myself,
• 25:22
  well, everything must have been written before
• 25:23
  70. Yeah. And again, there's tons of arguments
• 25:29
  in scholarship about When and where and why and
• 25:32
  how and all this stuff and so although it's important
• 25:35
  to me and I do take it into consideration I'm
• 25:39
  gonna leave that discussion for a different time
• 25:42
  Okay, and I will tackle that and I will say thank
• 25:45
  you that you've been with us this whole time.
• 25:47
  I appreciate your comment and Yeah Our insights
• 25:52
  I give all glory to God for these insights for
• 25:55
  both to me and to Elaine and the things that
• 25:57
  I've learned through this I am I'm just humbled
• 26:01
  by the fact that the Lord, the way that he does
• 26:04
  this with us and wants to be with us, right?
• 26:07
  This last comment... Again, this book that we're
• 26:10
  doing, it's not some sort of reference book that
• 26:13
  you can sort of go back to, oh, who said this
• 26:15
  and what quote was made here or... It literally
• 26:18
  is a discussion on the characters and their sort
• 26:23
  of unfolding during the whole 42 chapters. That's
• 26:28
  what it's about, really. And then applying what
• 26:30
  we're learning from what we're reading about
• 26:33
  the characters in there, and we're looking at
• 26:35
  ourselves. That's the whole thing. That's right.
• 26:38
  And that's what I said that was so shocking to
• 26:40
  me about this book. You and I have talked about
• 26:42
  this so many times behind the scenes, Elaine,
• 26:44
  is that I had no idea that this is what this
• 26:46
  book was about. I had this simplistic God of
• 26:48
  Sovereignty get over it, you know? And Job got
• 26:51
  double portion because he finally learned, you
• 26:53
  know, it's like... man it's so much bigger than
• 26:55
  that it's so much bigger than that and if i feel
• 26:57
  like when you dig into god's word and don't let
• 26:59
  me forget elaine that we're going to announce
• 27:01
  the next book at the end of this we're going
• 27:03
  to announce it um what we're going to be doing
• 27:04
  next um which i'm super excited about and something
• 27:09
  really isn't done is it it's never really Never
• 27:12
  seen it. And it's going to be a first here for
• 27:13
  me. So I'm super excited. Don't let me forget
• 27:16
  to say it at the end of late. But here's our
• 27:18
  last comment. And we're going to get into this
• 27:20
  and we're going to finish out this book. We're
• 27:22
  covering a lot today. But guys, you can read
• 27:24
  it for yourself. And you've been with us this
• 27:26
  whole time. You don't need me and Elaine to teach
• 27:29
  you anything. The Holy Spirit will teach you
• 27:31
  all that you need to know. You've got to call
• 27:33
  on him and have a relationship with him. If you
• 27:34
  haven't learned that throughout this, you probably
• 27:36
  knew it before. But I'm just going to say it
• 27:38
  again, unless you're going to him. This is meaningless
• 27:42
  to you You have to go to him in all honesty you
• 27:47
  have to lay all honesty everything you have to
• 27:50
  show your your ego your jealousy your envies
• 27:54
  your Unwillingness to forgive and pour out that
• 27:59
  and say why do I feel why have I got this thing?
• 28:01
  Why don't I like people when they tell me something?
• 28:03
  Why I really go to him and say these are the
• 28:07
  flaws in me that I don't want Right. Be honest,
• 28:11
  lay it bare. Nothing is missing. Exactly. And
• 28:15
  this is what we need to do. We need, I mean,
• 28:17
  I used to find it when I started going to Bible
• 28:19
  studies. I used to say, well, look, sometimes
• 28:21
  I swear and I don't want to swear. I mean, I'm
• 28:24
  not doing it every day in my life. Don't get
• 28:25
  me wrong. I might do it once every eight months,
• 28:27
  every year or something, but I do. And then you'll
• 28:30
  be surprised. I mean, if you go, Oh, actually
• 28:32
  I do sometimes. You know, I thought I was the
• 28:34
  only one. You know, but what I'm saying is I'm
• 28:37
  not saying it's good to do that, but what I'm
• 28:39
  saying is confess your sins to one another so
• 28:42
  that we can be healed. And that's the point.
• 28:44
  If you hold onto it and you're frightened to
• 28:46
  tell somebody, this is what I am. It's like I've
• 28:49
  said before, I think Rick, you know, I used to
• 28:51
  say to my children, all the time you pretend
• 28:53
  to be strong, you will remain weak. But as soon
• 28:56
  as you air your weaknesses, then you become strong
• 29:00
  because nobody can accuse you of anything because
• 29:02
  you can say, yes, I know I am. And they've lost
• 29:05
  their argument straight away. That's right. I
• 29:08
  know what I am. And I think that's what we all
• 29:10
  need to do. And once the church becomes more
• 29:12
  honest with itself, instead of thinking, oh,
• 29:15
  you know, if I air that to somebody, my halo
• 29:17
  might slip or my position in the church might
• 29:19
  fall and they won't think as much of me. Well,
• 29:21
  it doesn't matter. It's what God thinks of you
• 29:23
  that matters. That's what matters. I don't want
• 29:26
  to hide behind the garb of a Christian, but underneath
• 29:30
  have the works of a flesh. I don't want that.
• 29:35
  I don't want that. And I think this is something
• 29:37
  that Job is sort of bringing out here, you know,
• 29:40
  and he's taking it on board. He's taking it on
• 29:41
  the chin at the end, really. He really does.
• 29:45
  Yep. And what you find out that he wasn't necessarily
• 29:49
  wrong, but he was certainly not right. So, all
• 29:54
  right. Here's the last comment that we have today,
• 29:55
  Elaine, from Laurie Stone. Hey, Laurie. Glad
• 29:59
  to see you back. Yeah. Lots of love to you both.
• 30:02
  It has been a joy going through this study with
• 30:04
  you both. Looking forward to the finale, the
• 30:08
  book, and Q &A. Blessings. Well, here you are
• 30:10
  at the finale. So thank you for being along.
• 30:14
  We're getting ready to go. Yeah and so elaine
• 30:22
  let me ask you this question now we go and bring
• 30:23
  up the q &a all i have to figure out is how i
• 30:27
  can do a live between us and then when people
• 30:30
  can send in their questions or watch or whatever.
• 30:32
  Or we can just have a final talk you know about
• 30:34
  it but this thursday. At my let's see i can i
• 30:42
  need to talk to my wife but i think i think i
• 30:44
  have this thursday at six pm. is when I'd like
• 30:48
  to do it. No, I think you're five hours ahead
• 30:50
  of me. At your time, 6 p .m. Yeah, which means
• 30:52
  it would be 11 p .m. or. No, midnight. Yeah,
• 30:55
  that night is not going to work for you, is it?
• 30:57
  Yeah, it will. I'll stop up. Listen to that.
• 31:00
  You see how dedicated she is, guys? But the only
• 31:03
  reason I say that is because the all of us, you
• 31:06
  know, here have jobs and we have to work and
• 31:09
  I would like them to be able to engage. That
• 31:11
  doesn't that doesn't bother me at all you know
• 31:13
  it's like christ when they said lord you're tired
• 31:15
  you said well i have work to do that you don't
• 31:17
  know anything about so right i'm gonna i'm gonna
• 31:19
  appeal to that i'm gonna be you're gonna be like
• 31:22
  the lord jesus look at that uh you know what
• 31:25
  i want to say what did you do to your arm did
• 31:28
  you cut yourself oh i burned it oh my goodness
• 31:31
  were you making a spot of tea No, no, I was rather
• 31:36
  I was popping some jacket potatoes Oh my goodness,
• 31:43
  I'm sorry you burn it I'm a strong I'm a strong
• 31:47
  woman. I'm a strong actually I'm a strong human
• 31:50
  being Yes, you are. All right, so I'm gonna open
• 31:54
  this study up by saying this The opening thought
• 31:58
  of this entire book was does job fear God for
• 32:03
  nothing. That's the thing that really kicked
• 32:06
  me in the teeth at the very beginning because
• 32:09
  it's like huh you know like does Job fear God
• 32:12
  for nothing and he talks about how God just protects
• 32:15
  him and all this stuff and then God just lets
• 32:17
  him do what he wants to with his servant. So
• 32:22
  basically by proxy God is doing it to him. That's
• 32:25
  right. Now Funny enough. It's never Satan doing
• 32:28
  it. It's only because God allows it. So once
• 32:31
  again, we can see there that God does allow things.
• 32:34
  That's right. It's down to God. Even though when
• 32:36
  everything happens that you think is bad, God's
• 32:39
  hand is always over it. Right. You know, it's
• 32:42
  amazing. I want to point this out guys. And I
• 32:45
  don't know why I didn't catch this because Job
• 32:47
  actually gets the answer to this question in
• 32:50
  the end of this book. He does. He does. Okay.
• 32:53
  But Have you ever, now that you've been going
• 32:56
  through it with us so long, have you noticed
• 32:58
  that whenever God says, have you considered my
• 33:02
  servant Job, whenever Satan says, does Job fear
• 33:06
  God for nothing, he didn't talk about his wonderful
• 33:10
  relationship with him. He only talked about his
• 33:15
  possessions, what he had and the protection which
• 33:17
  he had. He didn't even talk about the relationship.
• 33:21
  And that's the thing that I think is so clear
• 33:23
  in humanity is that that's the difference in
• 33:28
  my opinion. When I meet people who are true believers
• 33:31
  in Jesus Christ, you can tell that they know
• 33:34
  him because I know him and they know him. And
• 33:38
  it's immediate. Like when I met Elaine, I was
• 33:40
  like, well, there's my sister. I knew it. I knew
• 33:44
  it when I saw, you know, we were talking and
• 33:45
  I was like, there you are. You're my sister.
• 33:47
  I know it because we know him. But see, the enemy
• 33:51
  of God, the Satan of God, the Pharisees of God,
• 33:54
  the Sadducees of God, the scribes of God, all
• 33:57
  of these people that claim to be with God, if
• 34:04
  they don't have that relationship, then all of
• 34:07
  it is for nothing. All of it is, and it follows
• 34:11
  exactly what's saying, does Job fear God for
• 34:13
  nothing? So like we talked about in the past,
• 34:15
  the Pharisee walks into the temple, the sinner
• 34:18
  walks into the, you know, the tax collector walks
• 34:19
  in there, and he beats on his chest, God have
• 34:22
  mercy upon me, a sinner. And the other one's
• 34:23
  like, look at me, I've given all my mint, dill,
• 34:25
  and cumin, and I'm glad I'm not like that sinner
• 34:27
  over there. Like there's a definite difference
• 34:30
  between someone who relates to God and understanding
• 34:32
  who they are, honestly, versus somebody who is
• 34:35
  representing God and doesn't. He's got all the
• 34:38
  clothes on that looks like it, but underneath
• 34:40
  you buy their actions and fruits, you can say
• 34:42
  that they're actually not that at all. That's
• 34:44
  how you, again, it's a bit like, I mean, again,
• 34:47
  you know, when he says, get away from me, you
• 34:49
  workers of iniquity, of lawlessness, of sin,
• 34:51
  get away, I never knew you. What he's saying
• 34:53
  there was, even when they appealed to him, well,
• 34:54
  didn't I do that? Didn't I do that? He says,
• 34:57
  I never knew, right even from the beginning,
• 34:58
  you were never mine. You were never mine. That's
• 35:00
  right. And I like how you put that, you know,
• 35:02
  our... our Savior, Jesus Christ, was stripped
• 35:05
  down to nakedness. And he was, you know, then
• 35:09
  had that one cloak put on him and then nailed
• 35:11
  to a cross. But he despised the shame. The scripture
• 35:14
  says he despised the shame of it. But he was
• 35:18
  taken down to the lowest of the low. But he wanted
• 35:21
  to do what his father in heaven commanded him.
• 35:23
  That's what mattered the most. And he had a relationship.
• 35:26
  Father, glorify your son as I had with you in
• 35:28
  the beginning. And how did he do it? Through
• 35:29
  the cross. So it's like Like this is the ultimate
• 35:33
  view of relationship. And I think that that's
• 35:38
  why the Satan character represents really the
• 35:42
  way that this world thinks, which is stuff and
• 35:47
  the fallacy of the way we project ourselves to
• 35:50
  the outside world. It's like you said earlier,
• 35:51
  Elaine, like the minute you tell somebody, I
• 35:54
  am weak, then that's when you really get. to
• 35:57
  the meat of life, whereas... But nobody can bring
• 35:59
  an accusation against you then, because you've
• 36:03
  already heard it. Yeah, and there's a lot of
• 36:05
  times... like parents will do this for the children
• 36:07
  like we want to protect our children right because
• 36:08
  they're smaller they don't understand adult things
• 36:11
  but a lot of times like we don't show emotion
• 36:13
  we want to be strong for them we want to show
• 36:15
  that and i i think that sometimes i think that's
• 36:17
  a mistake i think that you can relate with your
• 36:19
  children and cry sometimes and be like it is
• 36:21
  my heart hurts this is what it feels like when
• 36:23
  we're in pain but i still go to my heavenly father
• 36:26
  and i want you to know that that's what i do
• 36:28
  you know how we pass these things on so being
• 36:30
  honest but but again it's like we just said about
• 36:32
  five minutes ago the fact is That, you know,
• 36:35
  even in church, you know, people are, when I
• 36:37
  speak about church, I'm talking about the, you
• 36:39
  know, the community of Christ, us as his children.
• 36:44
  You know, is there this sort of this idea that
• 36:46
  you don't want to show who you are really, because
• 36:48
  there's this sort of, this idea that if people
• 36:52
  really know what you are, that you're going to
• 36:55
  go down in their estimations. but it's only then
• 36:58
  that you can, it's only by airing and exposing
• 37:00
  things you can have a heal. Like it says, it's,
• 37:02
  you know, express your sins to one another so
• 37:06
  that you may be healed. You know, he's not saying
• 37:08
  hide them so you can be healed. We've got to
• 37:11
  tell everybody, you know, those that we can trust.
• 37:13
  And again, in that telling, You'll be surprised
• 37:16
  at how many people say that they do the same
• 37:19
  thing, feel the same thing, think the same thing.
• 37:21
  And there's comfort in that. And I know it sounds
• 37:23
  weird to say, oh, I'm comforted by the fact that
• 37:25
  you sin, but there is, you know, otherwise sometimes,
• 37:29
  you know, you might get to the stage where you
• 37:30
  think, well, there's no one as bad a sinner as
• 37:33
  me, because you're the one that knows exactly
• 37:34
  what you do 24 hours a day. Yeah. When you express
• 37:37
  it and other people say, I do the same in that,
• 37:40
  there's a healing going on. You're healing one
• 37:43
  another just by exposing it. And B, hearing that
• 37:46
  other people suffer from the same things and
• 37:48
  together you can collectively go forward and
• 37:51
  mature in Christ. You've got to air it. That's
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  good. Amen. Amen. All right. Well, let's get
• 37:59
  into the meat of this. Elaine, I won't make you
• 38:01
  read the entire last five chapters of this book.
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  I will read some too, but I'm going to ask you
• 38:07
  to get into Job chapter 38. So the whirlwind
• 38:11
  is coming and it has now arrived. And Job, and
• 38:15
  we read a little bit of how it started in our
• 38:18
  last episode, but we're going to read that again.
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  And I want you to think about how he's been sitting
• 38:22
  in his dust and ashes, all of the complaints.
• 38:25
  He wants an advocate, a mediator. He wants to
• 38:28
  stand in the courtroom. He wants his day in court.
• 38:30
  He wants to be able to ask questions of the Almighty.
• 38:32
  This is what he's been asking for. His three
• 38:34
  friends have said all kinds of things. You've
• 38:36
  committed adultery. You're wicked. You've stolen,
• 38:38
  taken the spoils. Elihu comes in and says, you
• 38:41
  haven't justified God. You've only justified
• 38:42
  yourself in this matter. All of this is happening.
• 38:45
  And here he is. And God shows up. And that is
• 38:50
  so big. Job chapter 38. Right. Then Adonai answered
• 38:55
  Job out of the storm. Who is this darkening my
• 38:59
  plans with his ignorant words? Stand up like
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  a man, embrace yourself. I will ask questions
• 39:05
  and you give the answers. Where were you when
• 39:08
  I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much.
• 39:13
  Do you know who determined its dimensions? Or
• 39:15
  who stretched the measuring line across it? On
• 39:18
  what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone?
• 39:22
  When the morning stars sang together and all
• 39:24
  the sons of God shouted for joy? Who shut up
• 39:28
  the sea behind closed doors? When it gushed forth
• 39:30
  from the womb? When I made the clouds its blanket
• 39:33
  and dense fog its swaddling cloth? When I made
• 39:38
  the breakers its boundary, set its gates and
• 39:41
  bars, and said, You may come this far, but no
• 39:44
  farther. Here your proud ways must stop. Have
• 39:48
  you ever in your life called up the dawn and
• 39:50
  made the morning know its place, so that it could
• 39:53
  take hold of the edges of the earth and shake
• 39:56
  the wicked out of it? Then the earth is changed,
• 39:59
  like clay under a seal, until its colors are
• 40:02
  fixed like those of a garment. But from the wicked
• 40:05
  the light is withheld. and the arm raised to
• 40:08
  strike is broken. Have you gone down to the springs
• 40:11
  of the sea or explored the limits of the deep?
• 40:13
  Have the gates of death been revealed to you?
• 40:16
  The gates of death like darkness? Have you surveyed
• 40:19
  the full extent of the earth? Say so, if you
• 40:22
  know it all. Which way leads to where light has
• 40:25
  its hung? And darkness, where does it dwell?
• 40:28
  If you knew you could take each to its place
• 40:31
  and set it on its homeward path, you know, of
• 40:34
  course, because you were Born then? By now you
• 40:38
  must be very old. Have you gone into the storehouses
• 40:41
  for snow, or seen the storehouses for hail, for
• 40:45
  which I have saved for the times of trouble,
• 40:47
  for days of battle and war? By what path is light
• 40:51
  dispersed, or the east wind poured out on the
• 40:54
  land? Who cut a channel for the downpours, or
• 40:57
  a way for the lightning and the thunder, causing
• 41:00
  it to rain where no one is, in a desert without
• 41:03
  anyone there? drenching the wastes and the desolate
• 41:07
  ground to the tender grass sprouts. Does the
• 41:10
  rain have a father? Who is the father of dew
• 41:13
  drops? From whose womb does ice come? Who gives
• 41:17
  birth to the frost of heaven when water becomes
• 41:20
  as hard as stone and the surface of the deep
• 41:22
  freeze is solid? Can you tie up the clouds of
• 41:25
  cords of Pleiades or loosen the belt of Orion?
• 41:29
  Can you lead out of the constellations of the
• 41:31
  zodiac in their season? or guide the great bear
• 41:34
  and its cubs? Do you know the laws of the sky?
• 41:38
  Can you determine how they affect the earth?
• 41:40
  Can you raise your voice to the clouds and make
• 41:42
  them cover you with a flood of rain? Can you
• 41:44
  send lightning bolts on their way? Will they
• 41:47
  say to you, here we are? Who put wisdom in people's
• 41:51
  inner inner parts? Who gave wisdom and understanding
• 41:54
  to the mind? Who by wisdom can number the clouds?
• 41:58
  Who can tilt the water skins of heaven? so that
• 42:01
  the dust becomes a mass of mud and its clogs
• 42:04
  stick together. Can you hunt prey for a lioness
• 42:08
  or satisfy the appetite of the young lions when
• 42:11
  they crouch in their dens or lie in ambush in
• 42:14
  their lairs? Who provides food for the raven
• 42:17
  when his young cry out to God and wander about
• 42:20
  for lack of food? Wow. Sorry about that. No,
• 42:25
  it was wonderful. So that's that's a lot and
• 42:30
  if we go verse by verse, we'll be here for the
• 42:32
  rest of the week. Yeah, but I Thought it was
• 42:36
  I remember the first time I ever read the book
• 42:38
  of Job I thought what kind of answer is this
• 42:40
  like this doesn't make any sense to me at all
• 42:42
  and that's because I'm a selfish human being
• 42:45
  And because I think of myself higher than God
• 42:47
  sometimes that's what I do as a human It's so
• 42:50
  silliness, but it's it's what humans do humans
• 42:52
  be doing what humans do, right? Yeah, so God
• 42:57
  breaks out, first of all, who is this? This question
• 43:02
  that God asks is something that Job's gonna repeat
• 43:07
  in the last chapter of this book. Who is this
• 43:10
  that darkens the council, right? Let me go back
• 43:14
  to that verse again. So Job, he says, who is
• 43:18
  this that darkens council by words without knowledge?
• 43:22
  Now - I've met a lot of people like that. Yeah,
• 43:26
  well, I'm one of them. I am. I'm not lying. I've
• 43:29
  been like that. But the thing is like, God, God
• 43:34
  is really letting Job number number one. He's
• 43:37
  like, first of all, stand up and get ready. Gird
• 43:40
  your loins. You get ready. I'm going to show
• 43:42
  you something as a man. And so that image that
• 43:46
  I made the way it says brace yourself. Yes. Well,
• 43:48
  because in the fact is he's not sitting down
• 43:50
  in the dust anymore. I believe God's made him
• 43:52
  stand. Now you want your courtroom, you're in
• 43:55
  the courtroom. And here's the whirlwind, right?
• 43:58
  Here it comes. So as he's standing there, God
• 44:02
  begins like, who is this that darkens counsel
• 44:08
  by words without knowledge? So in other words,
• 44:12
  you're getting ready to talk to somebody where
• 44:14
  you don't know. There are things that you don't
• 44:16
  know. And I am way above this, like super far.
• 44:22
  I mean, saying he's way above it is doing him
• 44:25
  a disservice. Yeah, even saying it that way is
• 44:28
  that you want to be able to question me? Do you
• 44:32
  even know? You don't know anything. No. But what's
• 44:36
  amazing is that God actually does. And that's
• 44:38
  what I want to point out with grace and love
• 44:40
  and care. A loving father will do this even though
• 44:44
  he's the master of the universe. He also wants
• 44:47
  to be the master of your heart. And so he shows
• 44:51
  up, but he also wants to make it clear. When
• 44:54
  you come to me, you approach me as who I am.
• 44:58
  You know, you don't just call on me and I'm going
• 45:00
  to come and do, but see, Jesus will later say
• 45:02
  anything that you ask in my name, the father
• 45:05
  will do. The reason why is because the heart
• 45:08
  posture is what actually matters. Okay. Job was
• 45:12
  coming at him with this different kind of heart.
• 45:14
  I demand satisfaction, sir. I demand to know
• 45:17
  why I've been put through this. But that's not
• 45:20
  how it should be at all. Jesus doesn't demand
• 45:23
  anything of the Father. I suppose the thing is,
• 45:26
  first of all, before you can do that, I have
• 45:29
  an understanding of who God is. And I think without
• 45:33
  that understanding of who God is, you can't approach
• 45:35
  him, like we said before, about the Pharisee
• 45:38
  and the sinner. One's looking downwards, beating
• 45:40
  his chest, and the other one's looking upwards
• 45:41
  and thinking, wow, I'm so wonderful and amazing.
• 45:44
  But you have to have that kind of posture. And
• 45:46
  it's those people that have that kind of posture.
• 45:48
  that really understand who God is. And I tell
• 45:51
  you what, and a lot of the time you understand
• 45:53
  more who God is by trials, tribulations, things
• 45:56
  that have gone wrong in your life. If you have
• 45:59
  a charmed life, you haven't learned much at all,
• 46:01
  really. And that's the thing, I think, this is
• 46:04
  what God is teaching every single one of us,
• 46:07
  that, you know, a charmed life isn't going to
• 46:09
  be, I mean, Job had everything. They said, you
• 46:10
  had everything. You know, Satan said, you've
• 46:12
  got everything. No wonder it's all tickety -boo,
• 46:15
  hunky -dory, nothing. Take it away from him.
• 46:18
  Now bring a bit of hardship. Let's have a little
• 46:20
  look at what his character would do now. Has
• 46:22
  he ever experienced that before? You blessed
• 46:24
  everything. Everything. The work of his hands,
• 46:26
  you've done everything. But here we have somebody
• 46:28
  that is learning something through trial. That's
• 46:31
  why Paul says, consider it all joy when you go
• 46:34
  through various trials. It produces something.
• 46:38
  And that's the point. It produces patience. It
• 46:42
  produces long suffering. It produces a trusting
• 46:46
  God. it produces an awareness that this isn't
• 46:50
  all there is. We have to come here to get where
• 46:52
  our reality is supposed to be, where we were
• 46:55
  before we were even born. This means nothing,
• 47:00
  really. I mean, it does, obviously. But what
• 47:02
  I'm saying is ultimately, we have to be born
• 47:05
  here, to be born from above, to be able to go
• 47:08
  on to this heavenly Jerusalem, this new Jerusalem.
• 47:11
  That's the whole point. That's the whole point.
• 47:13
  I agree. I agree. I've had people say this is
• 47:16
  the testing ground, the proving ground, whatever
• 47:18
  you want to call it. This is, in my opinion,
• 47:20
  this is where you wrestle with good and evil
• 47:22
  and you come to know God and then understand
• 47:24
  what it means to be in relationship with him
• 47:26
  in order to be in the place where he's at. All
• 47:29
  right. So in Jobe's... My dog's wanting to get
• 47:32
  in. He's scratching the door. Absolutely. You
• 47:34
  go right ahead, Elaine. I had the, I actually
• 47:38
  took advantage of the fact when she's reading,
• 47:40
  when she reads the Bible, the screen comes up
• 47:44
  to just her. So I actually, no, it only comes
• 47:48
  up to you. And what's really funny, Elaine, I
• 47:51
  don't even know if you noticed this, but I actually,
• 47:53
  I had a pee break while you were reading. So
• 47:57
  I don't have to pay out of the period. So we
• 47:59
  can go on for hours. Okay. So, all right. So
• 48:02
  in Job chapter 38, verse four through seven,
• 48:05
  okay. I remember, I paused a lot on this particular
• 48:09
  place. He says, when the morning stars sing together
• 48:12
  and all the sons of God shatter for joy. Let's
• 48:14
  go back to those verses. So four through seven,
• 48:17
  he says, where were you when I laid the foundation
• 48:19
  of the earth? Tell me if you have understanding,
• 48:23
  who determined its measurements? Surely you know,
• 48:25
  or who stretched the line upon it? On what were
• 48:28
  its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone?
• 48:32
  When the morning stars sing together, and all
• 48:34
  the sons of God shouted for joy. Now, think about
• 48:38
  chapter one. Think about chapter one and chapter
• 48:41
  two. Remember, the sons of God were the ones
• 48:45
  who were in the heavenly throne room. Now, when
• 48:49
  he says, who are you, I've had some people try
• 48:51
  to tell me that God's talking about laying his
• 48:54
  cosmic temple. He's not talking about a globe
• 48:57
  and things like that. Let's not miss the point
• 49:00
  here. You can say he's laying the foundation
• 49:03
  of a temple, but I also think it's important
• 49:05
  that he brings about the cornerstone, because
• 49:08
  those of us who are Christians know who that
• 49:10
  is. Amen. That's correct. So he's saying from
• 49:14
  the very beginning. How many times have we said
• 49:17
  this, Elaine? From the very beginning, before
• 49:20
  the foundations of the world, there was a cornerstone
• 49:24
  that was going to be placed, and it is Christ.
• 49:27
  It's Christ, OK? That's right. and again going
• 49:31
  back to you know the first verse of chapter one
• 49:33
  it says in the beginning God created the heavens
• 49:35
  and the earth but in between in the beginning
• 49:39
  and God created the heavens and the earth there's
• 49:41
  two letters and they don't ever translate them
• 49:44
  because they're untranslatable and they are the
• 49:48
  Aleph and the Tav now if you go back to the pictograph
• 49:51
  the Aleph and the Tav it always represented strength
• 49:54
  or power and also the Tav represented a mark
• 49:58
  or a cross. So if you actually go back to Christ
• 50:03
  being that cornerstone of the heavens and the
• 50:05
  earth, breathing it into a being, it says in
• 50:10
  the beginning, the power of the cross created
• 50:15
  the heavens and the earth. Isn't that a beautiful
• 50:17
  thing? Elaine was telling me this yesterday.
• 50:19
  We've talked about it before, but yeah, it's
• 50:21
  just a beautiful thing. Again, and again, all
• 50:23
  the way back there, unless you know what these
• 50:25
  two letters mean, you're not going to get it.
• 50:27
  And he is the word. made flesh. He is the word
• 50:30
  placed inside this garment of flesh, if you like,
• 50:34
  become one of us. So the word back there was
• 50:38
  made flesh. And if you think about it, the word,
• 50:41
  everything we read, it's a letter that forms
• 50:44
  a word, and a word forms a sentence, and a sentence
• 50:49
  forms a thought. Well, no one's able to sing
• 50:52
  the song of redemption except Christians, because
• 50:54
  they're the only ones that put these letters
• 50:55
  and words and sentences together to show the
• 50:57
  gospel. That's right. So therefore, it's living
• 51:01
  within us. We are that light. The gospel is within
• 51:05
  people's midst because we are there and it's
• 51:07
  not only within us, it's without us. And we're
• 51:10
  the only ones that ever say, yes, it's the elephant
• 51:12
  at the top, right the way back there, this cornerstone.
• 51:15
  He was already laid. And the thing is, it's in
• 51:18
  the spiritual realm. We know chapter one and
• 51:20
  chapter two are in the spiritual realm. So Elaine
• 51:22
  has said many times in a lot of our talks, it's
• 51:24
  the spiritual, physical, spiritual, physical,
• 51:26
  spiritual. So Christ will be born in the flesh.
• 51:29
  Christ will be that rejected cornerstone. And
• 51:31
  then we are born in the flesh and we are building
• 51:33
  as a temple, but it is all about Him and being
• 51:36
  in the spirit. The Morning Star is saying, this
• 51:40
  is where I believe in the divine counsel, but
• 51:42
  I don't get into all the depth of it because
• 51:43
  I don't need to. It's pointing to the fact, he's
• 51:46
  saying, where were you when I started all of
• 51:47
  this, Jobe? I started all of this, okay? Now,
• 51:50
  if he's thinking purely in the physical realm,
• 51:53
  and he was like, the heavenly beings saw him
• 51:55
  make the earth on all these things, that's okay.
• 51:57
  He can think that way. He can even think that
• 52:00
  the earth is flat or it's square and that there's
• 52:02
  pillars sunk or whatever. He can think it, it
• 52:04
  doesn't matter. The point that matters is that
• 52:06
  God is the one who did it. And he's been wanting
• 52:08
  this moment with this God to talk to. And remember,
• 52:12
  he was offering sacrifices on behalf of his children,
• 52:14
  just in case their heart wasn't right with this.
• 52:16
  God's here now and he's like, where were you?
• 52:20
  So you want to come to me, you darken my counsel
• 52:23
  with these words without knowledge. Now, where
• 52:26
  were you? Absolutely, exactly. And that's the
• 52:29
  thing. And he does approach him, you know, and
• 52:31
  it's a question all the time. He's questioning
• 52:34
  him, questioning. And again, imagine if we were
• 52:37
  saying this is why have you allowed this? God,
• 52:38
  why have you? I've done this, I've done. And
• 52:40
  then God turns up and it's actually says, sit
• 52:41
  down, darling. I want to ask you, you're darkening
• 52:44
  my counsel because you really have no idea because
• 52:46
  you're speaking darkness here because I'm light.
• 52:49
  So you really need to sit down and find out.
• 52:51
  And I'm going to enlighten you here. I'm going
• 52:53
  to bring about some light on the subject. That's
• 52:55
  good. Dark and light. That's good. Yeah. Then
• 52:57
  he starts to question him. Right, where were
• 52:59
  you when this happened? And I love the way he
• 53:01
  says, you know, when it says there about, you
• 53:06
  know, does the rain have a father? Who is the
• 53:08
  father of the dew drops? From whose womb does
• 53:12
  ice come from? Who gives birth to them? I love
• 53:15
  the way that God says, who gives birth? From
• 53:17
  what womb does it come? Who's the father? And
• 53:20
  again, it conjures up these things that you can
• 53:23
  relate to in the flesh, you know, this birthing.
• 53:27
  Well, to have a birth, there must have been sort
• 53:29
  of something that placed that what you're going
• 53:32
  to give birth to, or you're going to give birth
• 53:34
  to. Well, who placed that there? You know, it's
• 53:37
  going back further and further and further. And
• 53:40
  it's basically saying to him, look, he's a father
• 53:43
  that's saying, look, darling, you got it all
• 53:46
  wrong here. That's right. I mean, again, if he
• 53:50
  was a wicked, evil, just god, he could have turned
• 53:52
  around and said, well, my justice says you've
• 53:54
  really sort of like dissed me a lot here, Job.
• 53:56
  I'll just go and squish you. Yeah. And that's
• 54:02
  what Job 38 is all about. That was a very technical.
• 54:05
  That's a very technical term. It is. Spell that.
• 54:10
  Yeah. So, yeah. So, Joe, I mean, we could go
• 54:14
  verse by verse, but I don't think I need to.
• 54:16
  I think you guys understand what God is doing
• 54:18
  right here. He's saying, like, can you? String
• 54:21
  the bows of Orion. Can you stretch out Pleiades
• 54:23
  across the sky? Can you can you make it rain?
• 54:26
  Can you make it snow who store who opens the
• 54:28
  womb of the snow? Like can you do any of these
• 54:29
  things like? Okay, you've got you came in here
• 54:32
  and I've given you my attention. Are you sure
• 54:33
  you want it? Because I think you know who you're
• 54:36
  dealing with and yeah I'm sorry for interrupting.
• 54:42
  No, it's okay. I'm used to it I'm just playing
• 54:49
  I'm just playing with you Well, I wasn't. That's
• 54:54
  good. I love you dearly. We've got to stay honest.
• 54:57
  We do. Yeah, we've got to be honest with each
• 54:59
  other too. I'm only playing with you. I know,
• 55:01
  me too. Again, bringing it down to us today,
• 55:07
  it's times when we are suffering and we go through
• 55:09
  that. We really have to sit there and say, where
• 55:11
  were you when I made this? What were you when
• 55:13
  I did this? I mean, we've got to remember that
• 55:15
  all of these things that God is talking about,
• 55:17
  they're just amazing. minimal part of what he
• 55:21
  is and does. He has to orchestrate everything.
• 55:25
  He's the creator before him, there was nothing.
• 55:28
  He brought everything out of nothingness, out
• 55:31
  of who he is. And so when he says about, you
• 55:34
  know, he's having to control everything, every
• 55:38
  single person, every single action, reaction,
• 55:40
  everything. And at the end of the day, we get
• 55:43
  so concerned over the fact that why has God allowed
• 55:46
  this? And again, and I mean, Like you said earlier
• 55:48
  on, we all do it. I do it sometimes. I think,
• 55:51
  you know, what have I done? What have I done
• 55:53
  to deserve this? You say, I've got to learn patience.
• 55:56
  I mean, how long is this going to go on for?
• 56:00
  You know, and like Paul, he says, well, my grace
• 56:01
  is sufficiently enough for you. And you just
• 56:03
  say, okay, Lord, you know, but yeah, I'll just
• 56:07
  swallow that one then and just, you know, endure
• 56:10
  it. But yes, it is times like this when things
• 56:15
  are so bad. that is when God draws your attention
• 56:19
  to it. And I think this is good. Anyone that's
• 56:22
  going through really bad times, read starting
• 56:25
  at 38 and says, right now, God, I'm going to
• 56:28
  ask you. And then read that. Just recognize actually,
• 56:32
  you know, that there is a reason to all of this.
• 56:35
  And I really believe that through our suffering,
• 56:38
  We are a benefit to other people. We are we are
• 56:41
  being honed and shaped by God and we are being
• 56:44
  brought forth to maturity. And without suffering,
• 56:46
  I don't think you can ever learn that. And in
• 56:48
  fact, the more you suffer, I think the more compassionate,
• 56:52
  kind, understanding, desirous to help to reach
• 56:56
  out, people become no suffering, selfish. That's
• 57:00
  right. That's exactly right. And something else,
• 57:02
  too. I don't want I don't want anybody to miss
• 57:04
  this. When he's when he's telling job this he's
• 57:09
  explaining to him like right now We're up in
• 57:11
  the heavenly realms up in the universal realms
• 57:13
  up in the sky cloud realms right and where the
• 57:15
  rain and all these things are and And that's
• 57:18
  something I want to point out to people when
• 57:19
  you start getting into ancient cosmology You
• 57:22
  know these these people Had a view of the world
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  and they believed that you know God was in the
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  clouds or or whatever Okay, but there's more
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  to it than just that when we're in our future
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  modern world and we look at our we have satellites
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  up in the sky or whatever we're doing how do
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  we see weather or whatever it is that we do don't
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  miss this please don't miss this it's not about
• 57:47
  flat earth or globe it's it's not about um cloud
• 57:51
  seeding and who manipulates the weather. It's
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  about who made it all to begin with. Who is the
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  originator, the creator of all of these things?
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  No matter where you fall in the story, no matter
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  where our brains are, we might find out 500 years
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  from now, our species might still be around and
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  they might be traveling to outside of this dome
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  perhaps. And some people were like, no, it's
• 58:14
  not possible, whatever. Guys. I don't know, I've
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  never been to outer space. I've never been on
• 58:20
  a rocket ship. I don't know anything. All I know
• 58:22
  is my own perspective. But what I do know is
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  that that same God that made all those things
• 58:27
  pierced my heart. And I know him, right? And
• 58:31
  so because I have that, when I look at the weather,
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  I know that he's in control. When I look at situations,
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  I know he's in control. And I think that's what
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  I want everybody to take away from this is to
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  always remember no matter where you are. He's
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  there. He's there. Whether it's by his ruling
• 58:51
  that he did it or he's with you going through
• 58:53
  you with it. That's why Jesus said, take my yoke
• 58:59
  upon you because my burden is easy. When you
• 59:02
  look at what he went through, that burden doesn't
• 59:05
  look easy at all to me. And he went through it
• 59:09
  hard, but his burden is easy because of his love
• 59:11
  for the Father. When you love the Father, the
• 59:13
  burden is easy. It's different. You encounter
• 59:18
  a different, right? So, Job right now in this
• 59:20
  argument, not argument, but in this state, God's
• 59:24
  like, where were you when I did? all of this
• 59:27
  out here. Well, now he's going to hone in. He's
• 59:30
  going to take you into the everyday life that's
• 59:32
  around him that he can observe. He can't observe
• 59:34
  Pleiades. He doesn't know where those bars are
• 59:37
  that hold up the ice, right? He doesn't know
• 59:40
  where that stuff is. Now he's going to let him
• 59:42
  see things that he can actually see. Exactly.
• 59:44
  And again, all of this has an impact on the internal.
• 59:47
  He's talking about external things, but it makes
• 59:50
  you think internally about why did I reason like
• 59:54
  that? Why did I see that picture myself? Why
• 59:57
  did I say to myself, who made this and who made
• 1:00:00
  that? Who did this? Who did that? You know, I
• 1:00:02
  know that God is just, so this must be something
• 1:00:04
  else happening here that I'm not particularly
• 1:00:06
  aware of. And I think this is the thing that
• 1:00:09
  we, again, taking it back to ourselves that we
• 1:00:12
  really need to see. Well, everything happens
• 1:00:14
  externally to us, Rick, but it has an internal
• 1:00:17
  impact. So God is asking us to adjust our internal
• 1:00:22
  impact. to the external things that impact us.
• 1:00:26
  Amen. That's good. Yeah, exactly. And that's
• 1:00:28
  the thing. You can either react one way or you
• 1:00:31
  can react another way. God is asking you to react
• 1:00:34
  the way that relies and trust on him. It has
• 1:00:37
  a purpose. There is an ending to this. And not
• 1:00:40
  only that, while you're here, he wants you to
• 1:00:41
  bless people. The only way you can bless people
• 1:00:43
  is if you've really understood what suffering
• 1:00:45
  is. What you've understood what suffering is.
• 1:00:48
  And again, you think about more the people that
• 1:00:50
  have undergone really harsh conditions. are the
• 1:00:53
  most kind, compassionate, patient, non -judgmental
• 1:01:04
  people. They'll listen and they'll give good
• 1:01:08
  counsel. They'll use their ears and their mouth
• 1:01:12
  in the degrees that they've been given, listen
• 1:01:15
  twice and speak once or thing. And I think that
• 1:01:19
  that's the thing here that we're learning that
• 1:01:20
  God is pointing out that. And again, The same
• 1:01:23
  for us. And I'm not saying it's easy. You know,
• 1:01:25
  we sit here, Rick, we say these things. And yet,
• 1:01:28
  you know, it's a bit like Paul when he says,
• 1:01:29
  you know, it's like a man who looks at himself
• 1:01:31
  in the mirror. He sees exactly who he is. And
• 1:01:33
  he goes away and forgets who he is. You know,
• 1:01:35
  the neat trick is - Yeah, I think that's in the
• 1:01:35
  book of James, actually. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, James,
• 1:01:39
  sorry. But the point being is that, you know,
• 1:01:44
  it's holding on to all the things that we're
• 1:01:46
  speaking about now. And we're realizing, yeah,
• 1:01:48
  we're saying, yeah, that's right. That's right.
• 1:01:50
  But the neat trick is to hold on to it. When
• 1:01:52
  something does come up, when we're not talking
• 1:01:55
  about it, when it's not on the forefront, that's
• 1:01:58
  the time to do it. And it's to have that at the
• 1:02:01
  forefront of your mind all the time. Just go
• 1:02:04
  back to, just say to yourself, remember Job.
• 1:02:07
  Not the suffering of Job, but what impact going
• 1:02:11
  through this had on us regards Job. External,
• 1:02:14
  what's he telling me internally, how I should
• 1:02:15
  react. And I think that's the thing. That's the
• 1:02:18
  one thing that I do now. I think, well, And don't
• 1:02:22
  be surprised if your friends don't understand
• 1:02:24
  what you're going through either Don't be surprised
• 1:02:26
  by that. Don't be surprised if some of them shy
• 1:02:28
  away from you I had many people that just went
• 1:02:30
  away I had some that really dug in deep and stayed
• 1:02:32
  with me and I had some that Accused me of things
• 1:02:36
  like something had I had done something wrong
• 1:02:37
  like all of those things that the friends said
• 1:02:39
  I've heard it through my own life and just so
• 1:02:41
  don't be surprised. But if you learn anything
• 1:02:45
  from me, if you hear anything from me, just remember
• 1:02:48
  cling to him because he's the one that's that's
• 1:02:51
  putting you through it. And he's also the one
• 1:02:53
  that's near you when he does it. Okay. Exactly.
• 1:02:57
  Exactly. You know, and that's the whole thing.
• 1:03:00
  You know, God doesn't stop things happening.
• 1:03:03
  But what he does, he says, I'll be there through
• 1:03:05
  it. Mm hmm. You know, and that's the thing. Otherwise,
• 1:03:07
  everybody be a Christian. If you only lived a
• 1:03:09
  charmed life and you just sort of like had God
• 1:03:11
  on the end of your key ring as rabbits for or
• 1:03:12
  a cheat genie in a bottle, you just rubbed it
• 1:03:14
  and said, right, what I want you to do now is
• 1:03:15
  this doesn't work like that. God says, this is
• 1:03:18
  what I want you to go through trials, but I am
• 1:03:20
  with you through it. I am with you through the
• 1:03:24
  trial. I will support you. I will teach you.
• 1:03:27
  I will ask you what you're learning. I will give
• 1:03:29
  you the patience, you know, so as more trials
• 1:03:33
  come along, you know, it's going to refine and
• 1:03:35
  hone you. I mean, you look at all the, you look
• 1:03:37
  at all the, you know, Hebrews 11 talks about
• 1:03:40
  all those people, you know, of faith, and it
• 1:03:42
  says the world wasn't worthy of them. Why? Because
• 1:03:44
  they were all rejected. Nobody wanted to know
• 1:03:47
  them. Their lives were filled with trauma. They
• 1:03:51
  never gave up right to the end. The world was
• 1:03:54
  not worthy. That's exactly right. That's it.
• 1:03:57
  Yeah. All right, so where we are here in chapter
• 1:03:59
  38, he just was talking about what I like to
• 1:04:03
  say, the universal things. Now we're going to
• 1:04:06
  get into the personal things like things that
• 1:04:08
  he could observe in his life, but not necessarily
• 1:04:11
  know about. So I'll read it. I'll read this chapter,
• 1:04:14
  Elaine. Yep. Excellent. Do you know when mountain
• 1:04:18
  goats give birth? Have you seen deer and labor?
• 1:04:22
  Can you tell how many months they carry their
• 1:04:25
  young? Do you know when they give birth, when
• 1:04:27
  they crouch down and bring forth their young,
• 1:04:29
  when they deliver their fawns? Their young become
• 1:04:33
  strong growing up in the open. They leave and
• 1:04:35
  never return. Who lets the wild donkey roam freely?
• 1:04:40
  Who sets the wild donkey loose from its shackles?
• 1:04:44
  I made the Arabah its home. The salty desert
• 1:04:48
  its place to live. Notice what he said. I made
• 1:04:50
  it. Okay. It scorns the noise of the city and
• 1:04:53
  hears no driver's shouts. It ranges over the
• 1:04:57
  hills for its pasture, searching for anything
• 1:04:59
  green. Would a wild ox be willing to serve you?
• 1:05:03
  Would it stay by your stall? Could you tie a
• 1:05:06
  rope around its neck and make it plow furrows
• 1:05:09
  for you? Would you trust its great strength enough
• 1:05:12
  to let it do your heavy work, or rely on it to
• 1:05:15
  bring home your seed and gather the grain from
• 1:05:18
  your threshing floor? An ostrich's wings beat
• 1:05:22
  wildly, although its pinions lack plumage. It
• 1:05:25
  leaves its eggs on the ground and lets them be
• 1:05:28
  warmed by the sand, forgetting that a foot may
• 1:05:31
  crush them or a wild animal trample on them.
• 1:05:34
  It treats its chicks heartlessly, as if they
• 1:05:37
  were not its own, even if her labor is in vain.
• 1:05:42
  It really doesn't care. Because God has deprived
• 1:05:46
  it of wisdom and given it. No share in understanding.
• 1:05:53
  When the time comes, it flats its wings, scorning
• 1:05:55
  both horse and rider. Did you give the horse
• 1:05:58
  its strength? Did you clothe its neck with a
• 1:06:01
  mane? Did you make him able to leap like a locust?
• 1:06:05
  Its majestic snorting is frightening. Its paws
• 1:06:09
  with force and exults with vigor, then charges
• 1:06:12
  into the battle, mocking it at fear, unafraid,
• 1:06:15
  it does not shy away from the sword. The rider's
• 1:06:19
  quiver rattles over it, gleaming his gleaming
• 1:06:22
  spear in javelin. Frenzied and eager, it devours
• 1:06:25
  the ground, scarcely believing the shofar has
• 1:06:28
  sounded. At the sound of the shofar, it whinnies,
• 1:06:32
  as from afar it sensed the battle. Since, as
• 1:06:37
  in the smell. The roar of the chiefs and the
• 1:06:41
  shouting. Is it your wisdom that sets the hawk
• 1:06:44
  soaring, spreading its wings toward the south?
• 1:06:48
  Does the eagle fly up when you say so, to build
• 1:06:51
  its nest in the heights? It lives and spends
• 1:06:55
  its nights on the cliffs. A rocky crag is its
• 1:06:58
  fortress. From there it spots its prey. Its eyes
• 1:07:02
  see it afar off. It's young ones suck up blood
• 1:07:06
  wherever the slain are. There it is. Guys, he
• 1:07:11
  doesn't even understand the wild animals is what
• 1:07:13
  he's saying. He's like, look, where are you when
• 1:07:16
  I stretch Pleiades or whenever the morning stars
• 1:07:19
  saying and the sons of God dance for joy when
• 1:07:22
  I made all this stuff and sunk this in the earth
• 1:07:24
  made all these things. You don't even know where
• 1:07:26
  a deer has its children. You know, when you look
• 1:07:32
  at an ostrich and you think that it's folly,
• 1:07:34
  I made it. For a purpose. Can you be like the
• 1:07:40
  hawk? Do you even know it? The fact is, Job doesn't
• 1:07:44
  know diddly squat. That's the point that God's
• 1:07:47
  making. Like, you've darkened the council. Here
• 1:07:51
  I am. Let's talk about what you actually do know.
• 1:07:54
  Let's do that. And so I want to ask you guys,
• 1:07:57
  as listeners of us, I want you to understand
• 1:07:59
  that that's where I came. Because I was like,
• 1:08:02
  God, why are you doing this to me? And I think
• 1:08:05
  we've all done that, right? Oh, yeah. But you
• 1:08:08
  know what? I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did,
• 1:08:13
  because he showed me things about the ostrich.
• 1:08:15
  He showed me that things that don't make sense
• 1:08:18
  are actually part of what he's doing. And I'm
• 1:08:21
  like, oh. Even when things seem wild and you're
• 1:08:27
  like, well, when he talks about the wild donkey,
• 1:08:31
  right? The wild donkey's out there. He's not,
• 1:08:33
  you're never gonna climb on that thing, put a
• 1:08:36
  saddle on it and throw some reins on it and leave.
• 1:08:38
  It's never gonna happen. He's a wild dog. You're
• 1:08:41
  never going to tame it. God made that. God made
• 1:08:45
  the thing that cannot be tamed. God made the
• 1:08:47
  thing that forgets its own eggs and walks off
• 1:08:49
  and leaves it. But yet he sits there and he shakes
• 1:08:52
  his feathers, even though he has no plumage.
• 1:08:56
  God's telling him, like, he acts like a bird,
• 1:08:58
  but he's not. He doesn't have all the things
• 1:09:01
  of it. Like, it's the craziest looking creature.
• 1:09:04
  And it's heartless with its young. Do you think
• 1:09:08
  when you see a mother out there who is heartless
• 1:09:10
  with its young, do you think that's out of God's
• 1:09:12
  control? Guys, when you're watching somebody
• 1:09:16
  who's on drugs and you see things that are going
• 1:09:19
  awry, do you think that's out of God's control?
• 1:09:22
  Do you think it's just the devil doing it? Here's
• 1:09:26
  my point. A lot of times we like to give the
• 1:09:28
  devil or the Satan character a lot of ground
• 1:09:32
  in these kinds of things. Wrong answer. Satan
• 1:09:37
  is used. To point out things so God can bring
• 1:09:41
  the fruition. He lets him squeeze it to get the
• 1:09:43
  oil as as Elaine always brilliant says the press
• 1:09:46
  of the oil, the press of the oil. Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:09:49
  Okay. So I don't want to, I don't want to get
• 1:09:50
  too far off topic here, but I just want to say
• 1:09:51
  when God is telling Job, you don't know any of
• 1:09:54
  this and you, you don't even know the things
• 1:09:56
  around you that you can see. But also what you
• 1:10:00
  don't realize is that even those things that
• 1:10:02
  seem whacked out and a little off to you. There
• 1:10:08
  I am. Absolutely. In other words, there are things
• 1:10:11
  going on as Leonard Skinner said, there's things
• 1:10:17
  going on that you don't know. I love that song.
• 1:10:20
  Never heard it. I don't know what it's called.
• 1:10:22
  Oh, of course. It's Southern Rock. When you come
• 1:10:25
  here, I'll play some for you. You need to hear
• 1:10:26
  it. It's Southern. It's delicious. It's wonderful.
• 1:10:29
  I like Southern. Can I eat some fried chicken
• 1:10:32
  at the same time? I'll make you some fried chicken
• 1:10:34
  and taters. As a matter of fact, what you need
• 1:10:38
  to do is go down to Pastor Allen's church on
• 1:10:41
  a Sunday. When they serve a meal, they have this
• 1:10:44
  barbecue down there. It's so good. I'm gonna
• 1:10:52
  have to try that because I think they have I
• 1:10:55
  love going down there when they're having food.
• 1:10:56
  Hey guys Don't forget about us. We're gonna have
• 1:10:59
  a little meal down there in Kannapolis Cook down
• 1:11:03
  there. I mean, it's good. Anyway, all right I'm
• 1:11:10
  going really sort of like on a limb here. What
• 1:11:14
  sort of gets to me is when he talks about the
• 1:11:18
  eagle. It says that the eagle fly up, when you
• 1:11:21
  say so, to build its nest in the heights. It
• 1:11:23
  lives and spends its nights on the cliffs. A
• 1:11:26
  rocky crag is its fortress. From there it spots
• 1:11:29
  its prey. Its eyes see it afar off. Its young
• 1:11:33
  ones suck up blood. Wherever the slain are, there
• 1:11:37
  it is. Or wherever the carcasses gather together,
• 1:11:41
  there the eagles will be. Yeah. Sounds like Jesus,
• 1:11:45
  huh? It sounds like Jesus talking about the Romans.
• 1:11:50
  He does. Where the eagles, where the vultures
• 1:11:52
  are, or where the dead lay, the vultures were
• 1:11:54
  gathered. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And that's,
• 1:11:57
  that's what I'm saying. I'm wondering whether
• 1:11:59
  there's a bit of a connection here. I haven't
• 1:12:01
  really gone into it, but I'm wondering whether,
• 1:12:03
  because he talks about the wild ox, the ostrich
• 1:12:06
  that beats its wings wildly. It's like thick
• 1:12:09
  and stupid. It's very big. It absolutely has
• 1:12:11
  something to do with this. It absolutely has
• 1:12:14
  something to do with this and I did look into
• 1:12:16
  it and the fact is it does, Elaine, because here's
• 1:12:18
  what's going on. When we talk about the wild
• 1:12:20
  animals, a lot of times we see those as Gentile
• 1:12:22
  nations or whatever's going on, right? Well,
• 1:12:24
  obviously the incense of the Roman army were
• 1:12:26
  the eagles. They surrounded the city. We know
• 1:12:29
  this, right? So where the dead lay, the eagles
• 1:12:31
  will gather. Jesus is saying, so yeah, absolutely.
• 1:12:35
  Because they said, take him away, Lord. And he
• 1:12:38
  didn't say, he didn't give a thing. He just said,
• 1:12:40
  wherever the carcass is. They will be gathered
• 1:12:43
  together Keep in mind when you're in the book
• 1:12:46
  of Daniel guys. He uses these the creatures He
• 1:12:49
  talks about statues and so but he also uses creatures
• 1:12:51
  and he shows that these nations which have a
• 1:12:54
  creature head Whether it's a bear or it's a goat
• 1:12:56
  or a ram. Yeah, right, right. So like he uses
• 1:13:00
  those things again They are under God's control
• 1:13:05
  They are God's the one that's behind the narrative.
• 1:13:07
  God's the one that's carrying his people through
• 1:13:10
  all of those nations, by the way, to bring the
• 1:13:13
  Christ into the world. Yeah, that's what I'm
• 1:13:14
  saying. The only thing is, I've not looked up
• 1:13:17
  why he would call a wild ox or an ostrich or
• 1:13:20
  a horse or a hawk or an eagle. I've not really
• 1:13:24
  gone in deeply into why that he would maybe call
• 1:13:29
  certain people, certain nations, those maybe
• 1:13:35
  with false gods. Again, I've not really gone
• 1:13:38
  into it, but there's definitely something here
• 1:13:41
  that is telling you something far deeper. It's
• 1:13:44
  telling you something spiritual, not just about
• 1:13:49
  the physical. There's something going on here.
• 1:13:52
  Well, definitely, I think that if we look at,
• 1:13:54
  like I said about the ostrich. All right, read
• 1:13:57
  verse 17 and 39. This is exactly what it is.
• 1:14:01
  Listen to what, I want you to notice how God
• 1:14:03
  speaks about himself in the third person here.
• 1:14:06
  Verse 17 in chapter 39. Oh, is that me, 17 and
• 1:14:12
  18? Yeah, would you read that? Yeah, 17, because
• 1:14:15
  God has deprived it of wisdom and given it no
• 1:14:18
  share in understanding. When the time comes,
• 1:14:22
  it flaps its wings, scorning both horse and rider.
• 1:14:25
  Okay, so. He speaks about himself in the third
• 1:14:28
  person, because before then, he's been like an
• 1:14:31
  eye, an eye, an eye, but here he suddenly shifts
• 1:14:34
  it, and he's like, because God has made her forget
• 1:14:36
  wisdom. Sorry? Because God has made her forget
• 1:14:43
  wisdom. God is saying, it's kind of like, you
• 1:14:46
  know how in the scriptures, whenever Paul says
• 1:14:48
  a man is given a measure of faith? Not all of
• 1:14:51
  us are given the same measure Paul will tell
• 1:14:53
  you like be careful for your weaker brother if
• 1:14:55
  you're eating meat sacrifice on the idols He's
• 1:14:57
  like, I don't I don't care because they're false.
• 1:14:59
  Anyway, I don't care. I can eat it But if it's
• 1:15:01
  gonna hurt my brother, I'm not gonna do it. Everybody
• 1:15:03
  has this measure, right? And so he's saying here
• 1:15:06
  like the ostrich Here's your spiritual understanding
• 1:15:09
  is that there are certain levels of things that
• 1:15:11
  i give for a purpose because i'm the one moving
• 1:15:14
  the story in the narrative forward and so we
• 1:15:16
  have to remember like remember this this book
• 1:15:18
  has been arguing about where is wisdom right
• 1:15:21
  has been arguing about all the time and god's
• 1:15:23
  telling you i've got another one that gives it
• 1:15:25
  measure. That's an important factor in this book
• 1:15:30
  too. That's why I always try to point out, like
• 1:15:32
  when I see, at the very beginning of the story,
• 1:15:35
  Alan asks the question, Pastor Alan Thompson
• 1:15:37
  asks the question about, do you believe that
• 1:15:38
  God's in charge of the weather still or do you
• 1:15:40
  think that now that we're farther advanced? And
• 1:15:42
  I said, yes, I believe he's in charge of the
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  weather. Like I believe God's in charge of every
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  atom. In all of the universe, I think he is aware
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  of it all. That's what I think. He's immense.
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  And I anything that looks crazy out there is
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  not crazy to him. No, I think I think again,
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  it's all in the plan, isn't it? Yes, it's all
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  everything is moving forward in his progression
• 1:16:05
  the way that God sees it to progress. And that
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  is an eternal thing. That is something that never
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  ends. It's it's who God is, right? Yeah. All
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  right. I'm just like, but she thrives this, this
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  remember this ostrich thrives exactly as God
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  has intended, even though what she does is bizarre.
• 1:16:26
  And then he talks about this, you know, the war
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  horse, you know, scent, the smell of battle and
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  what's amazing about this war horse. So In one
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  way, God makes the wild donkey that you can never
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  tame, but he also has this amazing creature that's
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  fully tamed, that smells battle and wants to
• 1:16:41
  fight with you. So God has like all of these
• 1:16:45
  things. He's showing you different aspects of
• 1:16:48
  his own character in the things that he made.
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  See, if you really want to know God, then you
• 1:16:53
  need to know that side about him too. I think
• 1:16:56
  I said this in our job study somewhere along
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  the way. I said, I think one of the mistakes
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  that I made as a parent is that I tried to teach
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  my kids fairness, rather than unfairness. And
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  I know that sounds weird, okay? But we had, when
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  I was growing up, I had a grandmother who would
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  always whisper in my ear, you're my favorite.
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  But you did to everybody else I spent. Oh, absolutely.
• 1:17:24
  And I hope my kids, if you ever watch this, I
• 1:17:27
  want you to know that's why I do it. I've been
• 1:17:30
  doing it to all my kids, too. I'll tell you I'll
• 1:17:33
  whisper and I'll say you're my favorite and they'll
• 1:17:34
  say, no. Samantha, my oldest stepdaughter was.
• 1:17:45
  I've always said she's the favorite, okay? And
• 1:17:49
  then I brought it out into the open for everybody.
• 1:17:52
  And I'm like, Samantha's the favorite, you know?
• 1:17:54
  And they're all mad at me and everything. But
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  the reason I started doing it is because I realized
• 1:18:00
  that when we teach our kids about fairness, whenever
• 1:18:02
  unfairness hits them, they feel like they've
• 1:18:04
  been dissed by God, and that's not true. Sometimes
• 1:18:08
  things come in life because God want us to have
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  that. And when I say sometimes, I mean all of
• 1:18:12
  it, all the time. All of it is happening. So
• 1:18:15
  whenever these things hit me, and we were asking
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  the question like, God, why did you take Brianna?
• 1:18:22
  God, why did you take my Aunt Sherry? Why now?
• 1:18:26
  Why did you take her at this amazing time of
• 1:18:30
  her life at 17, and then another woman that spent
• 1:18:33
  her entire life just wasting it? What's happening?
• 1:18:41
  I stopped asking that question now. God's taught
• 1:18:43
  me to stop asking that question. Well, the thing
• 1:18:45
  is, it's a never -ending circle. It just boils
• 1:18:48
  down to trust that God, if you really believe
• 1:18:50
  that God is who he is, then you are just going
• 1:18:52
  to accept that he knows exactly what he's doing.
• 1:18:55
  Yeah. And guys, I'm not like the ostrich burying
• 1:18:58
  my head in the sand. I'm accepting it. I'm looking
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  around and I'm like, you know what? And that's
• 1:19:04
  one of the beautiful things about this life is
• 1:19:07
  that you can look around at everything now, if
• 1:19:09
  you will. if you'll stop and just take a look
• 1:19:11
  around and realize God did it all. Absolutely.
• 1:19:15
  And he's there with you right now. If you want
• 1:19:18
  it to be with him, you can be. Yeah. And the
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  gospel is that God so loved the world and he
• 1:19:23
  gave his only begotten son that anyone that believeth
• 1:19:26
  in him should not perish but have eternal life.
• 1:19:29
  And that is the gospel. And I believe that it's
• 1:19:31
  to all men. And some people will be like, no,
• 1:19:33
  it's the Calvinist way. Well, yeah, I believe
• 1:19:36
  in Calvinism, too, but I think it has a purpose
• 1:19:38
  and a time frame. But I think that God didn't
• 1:19:41
  want anyone to perish, but all to come to repentance.
• 1:19:47
  I think that now understanding just Job 38 and
• 1:19:51
  39, just the immensity of God and how big he
• 1:19:55
  is in the universe, and even the things in which
• 1:19:57
  I can observe, like the crow and how crows, the
• 1:20:01
  way that they call whenever they have an enemy,
• 1:20:03
  like a hawk, the way that it works, they actually
• 1:20:05
  communicate to one another. And I've learned
• 1:20:07
  how that works with even and odd numbers and
• 1:20:10
  how to test distance. Crows are incredible creatures.
• 1:20:15
  But even I don't understand how it works, okay?
• 1:20:20
  Go ahead. Well, I just wanted to point out that
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  even, and so it's the same with the spiritual.
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  If you want, when you read the Bible, like we
• 1:20:30
  are, and you try to understand it with your knowledge,
• 1:20:34
  you're going to understand some of it. You are.
• 1:20:38
  But there's a lot of it that you will not understand
• 1:20:40
  it. Unless you're with him in the spirit it's
• 1:20:42
  revealed it's spiritually discern you know things
• 1:20:45
  happen to the spirit that's how you learn it.
• 1:20:48
  So a lot of the stuff you're talking about here
• 1:20:50
  a lot of you already know. This is just a refresher
• 1:20:53
  course for you and some of you may have never
• 1:20:56
  heard oh you mean. God made the wild ostrich
• 1:20:59
  that didn't care about its young and that's he
• 1:21:01
  took away its wisdom on purpose Like yeah, like
• 1:21:04
  there's that side of God too. That's one of his
• 1:21:06
  attributes And so you have to you know, you you
• 1:21:09
  take the good with the bad because this is all
• 1:21:10
  part of the story and so Yes, there's definitely
• 1:21:15
  some I'm gonna have to really look into this
• 1:21:17
  because I'm just getting feelings off There's
• 1:21:20
  definitely definitely something going on here
• 1:21:23
  about the end times Well guys, I'll say there
• 1:21:26
  there definitely is and I'll say guys if you
• 1:21:28
  will read along think about it And you see us
• 1:21:31
  as we're in the middle of this study Please get
• 1:21:34
  ready for the Q &A session and let's let's all
• 1:21:36
  talk about it Maybe you guys can make comments
• 1:21:38
  and help us out starts 38 when God starts talking
• 1:21:41
  and he says I will I will ask you brace yourself
• 1:21:44
  right knows where were you when I founded the
• 1:21:47
  earth and Yeah, and then I think when we get
• 1:21:52
  to the sort of end of it When he says that, you
• 1:21:55
  know, wherever the slain are, there it is. There's
• 1:22:00
  definitely something there from the start. Yes,
• 1:22:01
  there is. Yes, there. Absolutely. Because he's
• 1:22:06
  telling he's telling the whole story of Israel.
• 1:22:10
  Job is the whole story of Israel. The whole story
• 1:22:12
  of Israel. I don't even know whether it is that
• 1:22:15
  particularly or whether you have to go right
• 1:22:17
  the way back to. you know, Proverbs 8 and stuff
• 1:22:22
  like that, about wisdom, you know, I was there
• 1:22:24
  before this and before that. Yes. Where were
• 1:22:27
  we when I founded the, who laid the cornerstone?
• 1:22:30
  Right. Christ was laid far, far back there in
• 1:22:34
  Genesis chapter one, verse one. So, yes, you're
• 1:22:37
  not talking about that. But what I'm saying is
• 1:22:40
  there definitely is there's definitely something
• 1:22:42
  about the Jews at the end time here. And there's
• 1:22:45
  something about the horse. There's something
• 1:22:46
  about the eagle. There's something going on here.
• 1:22:50
  And I'm, you know, even going down to the, you
• 1:22:53
  know, to the tender grass and stuff like that.
• 1:22:56
  Yeah. It's, there's, there's definitely, it's
• 1:22:59
  definitely taken me back to, I would say going
• 1:23:02
  back to Genesis, Genesis chapter one, two and
• 1:23:05
  three, particularly Genesis one. Definitely going
• 1:23:07
  back here. It'd be interesting to, to have a
• 1:23:10
  look at that in, uh, in, you know, it's just
• 1:23:13
  coming to me as I'm looking at it more and more.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah. Anyway, yeah good stuff. All right. So
• 1:23:19
  Elaine if you're willing I would like for you
• 1:23:21
  to read chapter 40 Are you okay with that? Yeah,
• 1:23:26
  I mean it's like you when you start off all right
• 1:23:29
  and then the end you're going where were you
• 1:23:31
  when I and what did you and you think I've got
• 1:23:33
  to try and sort of say in a way that that would
• 1:23:35
  be sort of but you end up sort of stumbling and
• 1:23:38
  bumbling because you sort of Yeah. Anyway, I'm
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  just a mere mortal. Forgive me, brothers and
• 1:23:43
  sisters. Oh, my goodness gracious. You're a wonderful
• 1:23:45
  reader. Go for it. Here we go. Continuing to
• 1:23:50
  address Job, Adonai said, Does the critic still
• 1:23:53
  want to dispute Shaddai? Let him who wants to
• 1:23:56
  correct God give an answer. Then Job replied
• 1:24:00
  to Adonai, I am too ashamed. I have nothing to
• 1:24:04
  say. I lay my hand over my mouth. Yes, I spoke
• 1:24:08
  once, but I won't answer more. All right, twice,
• 1:24:12
  but I won't go on. Adonai answered Job out of
• 1:24:16
  the storm. Stand up like a man, embrace yourself.
• 1:24:20
  I will ask you, and you give the answers. Are
• 1:24:23
  you impugning my justice? Putting me in the wrong
• 1:24:26
  to prove yourself right? Do you have an arm like
• 1:24:30
  God's? Can you thunder with a voice like his?
• 1:24:33
  Come on, deck yourself with majesty. and dignity.
• 1:24:36
  Robe yourself in glory and splendor. Let loose
• 1:24:39
  your furious anger. Look at all who are proud
• 1:24:42
  and humble them. Look at all who are proud and
• 1:24:46
  bring them down. Tread down the wicked where
• 1:24:48
  they stand. Bury them in the ground together.
• 1:24:51
  Bind their faces in the hidden world. If you
• 1:24:54
  do this, then I will confess to you that your
• 1:24:57
  own power can save you. Now consider Behemoth,
• 1:25:01
  whom I made along with you. He eats grass like
• 1:25:04
  an ox. but what strength he has in his loins,
• 1:25:07
  what power in his stomach muscles. He can make
• 1:25:10
  his tail as stiff as a cedar. The muscles in
• 1:25:13
  his thighs are like cables, his bones are like
• 1:25:17
  bronze pipes, his limbs like iron bars. He ranks
• 1:25:21
  first among God's works. Only his maker can approach
• 1:25:25
  him with his sword. The mountains produce food
• 1:25:28
  for him there, where all the wild animals play.
• 1:25:31
  He lies down under the thorny lotus bushes, and
• 1:25:35
  is hidden by the reeds in the swamps. The lotus
• 1:25:37
  bushes cover him with their shade, and the willows
• 1:25:40
  by the stream surround him. If the river overflows,
• 1:25:44
  it doesn't worry him. He is confident even in
• 1:25:47
  the garden, as even in the Jordan rushes by his
• 1:25:51
  mouth. Can anyone catch him by his eyes, or pierce
• 1:25:54
  his nose with a hook? And Leviathan, can you
• 1:25:58
  catch him with a fishhook? or hold his tongue
• 1:26:00
  down with a rope? Can you put a ring around his
• 1:26:03
  nose or pierce his jaw with a barb? Will he entreat
• 1:26:05
  you at length? Will he speak softly to you? Will
• 1:26:09
  he agree with you to be your slave forever? Will
• 1:26:11
  you play with him as you would with a bird or
• 1:26:14
  keep him on a string to amuse yourself like little
• 1:26:17
  girls? Will a group of fishermen turn him into
• 1:26:20
  a banquet? Will they divide him among the merchants?
• 1:26:23
  Can you fill his skin with darts or his head
• 1:26:26
  with fish spears if you lay your hand on him?
• 1:26:29
  You won't forget the fight and you'll never do
• 1:26:32
  it again. Wow. I know. How far did you read?
• 1:26:39
  All the way down to 40. Yeah, all the 40 I read.
• 1:26:43
  Yep. Okay. So, because it sounded like you got
• 1:26:47
  into 41. No, no, no. Well, are you a complete
• 1:26:54
  Jewish Bible? Well, I'm looking at it through
• 1:26:57
  the ESV. 41? Let's see what you said. Yeah, it's
• 1:27:03
  the end of 40, it's fine. Yeah, you're good.
• 1:27:06
  All right, so let's just jump right off. Let's
• 1:27:08
  just jump right off at the beginning here, okay?
• 1:27:11
  So this is a moment where now God is questioning
• 1:27:14
  Job. He starts right off, shall the fault finder
• 1:27:17
  contend with the Almighty? And then he's like,
• 1:27:19
  he who argues with God, let him answer it. Well,
• 1:27:22
  who is that? Well, it was Job. This is a direct
• 1:27:25
  question to Job. He's asking him. Shall a fault
• 1:27:29
  finder contend with the Almighty? That's a huge
• 1:27:32
  question. Can a fault finder contend with the
• 1:27:35
  Almighty? He who questions, he who is arguing
• 1:27:37
  with God, let him answer it. So Job does. Job
• 1:27:41
  knows, okay, he's standing, I want you to imagine
• 1:27:43
  this man who's wrecked, standing in the middle
• 1:27:46
  of this whirlwind that's blowing all over him,
• 1:27:48
  and he's hearing the voice of God, and he's like,
• 1:27:50
  okay, time to answer. Shall a fault finder contend
• 1:27:54
  with me? And Job says, he says, I am of small
• 1:28:00
  account. That's good. What shall I answer you?
• 1:28:06
  Good for you. I lay my hand on my mouth. I've
• 1:28:11
  spoken once and I will not answer twice, but
• 1:28:14
  I will proceed no further. So Job is like, I
• 1:28:21
  need to withdraw my case now, but God's not going
• 1:28:26
  to let him. All right, so he's like I've already
• 1:28:29
  stepped it up. I've stepped. What did we call
• 1:28:31
  it? We've put our foot in her mouth All right.
• 1:28:34
  I've spoken too far. I don't have any I don't
• 1:28:36
  have any knowledge I don't even know anything
• 1:28:38
  about the universe I don't even know about I
• 1:28:39
  don't even know what the mountain goat has babies
• 1:28:41
  and yet I'm standing between the maker of all
• 1:28:43
  of it and demanding that he answers me I withdraw
• 1:28:46
  it so God gives him the opportunity to say that
• 1:28:49
  God gives him the opportunity engages with him
• 1:28:51
  I have I want to point out that this is what
• 1:28:53
  it felt like whenever I heard Christ for the
• 1:28:56
  first time in my heart. I suddenly realized I'm
• 1:29:01
  undone. Like, did you ever feel that way? I'm
• 1:29:04
  undone? I think when you, again, it's only through
• 1:29:08
  trials and tribulations that you ask those questions,
• 1:29:10
  isn't it? And this is the thing that Job through
• 1:29:14
  his, you know, his very lovely life that he had
• 1:29:17
  prior to what's going on that we're reading about.
• 1:29:21
  Nothing really sort of rattled him, did it? But
• 1:29:23
  now he's going through all of this. He is starting
• 1:29:26
  to question God, which is brilliant, because
• 1:29:30
  that's what God wants him to do. I mean, that's
• 1:29:33
  what he said, Joe spoke right, but you think,
• 1:29:34
  well, actually, Joe spoke wrong, but he didn't
• 1:29:36
  speak wrong simply because God said, well, you
• 1:29:38
  actually confronted me, which is really good.
• 1:29:41
  I want people to confront me so that I can answer
• 1:29:44
  them. And I think this is what you're saying
• 1:29:45
  now, right? You know, you've got to the stage
• 1:29:47
  now, Joe, where you're starting to wake up internally.
• 1:29:50
  You're starting to get it. It's not all about
• 1:29:52
  external. It's what's going on in here. Why is
• 1:29:55
  this going on with you? And like you say, this
• 1:29:57
  penny is starting to drop. It's starting to realize,
• 1:30:00
  well, actually, now you're bringing all these
• 1:30:03
  things up. It's making me look very like that.
• 1:30:05
  What did you say? Insignificant or of little
• 1:30:07
  stature? Yes. I mean, you know, it's like someone's
• 1:30:11
  really big and all pumped up and then you start
• 1:30:14
  to sort of tell them something about themselves.
• 1:30:16
  And instead of, you know, Job hasn't walked and
• 1:30:18
  songed off, Job's taken it. And all of a sudden
• 1:30:21
  this great inflated ego or whatever you want
• 1:30:24
  to call it, this man that's standing there with
• 1:30:26
  this great sort of like stature is like shrinking,
• 1:30:30
  shrinking and shrinking. And he realises that
• 1:30:33
  actually there's nothing left of him at all,
• 1:30:36
  nothing. But for the grace of God, he's there.
• 1:30:39
  Yes, he is. And I want you to notice something
• 1:30:42
  about this this point. Remember, when God first
• 1:30:46
  speaks to Job, what does he tell him? Gird up
• 1:30:48
  your loins like a man ready for action. Well,
• 1:30:52
  God says it again. And I always found that kind
• 1:30:55
  of interesting. And I think about whenever when
• 1:30:59
  Paul says we desire to be further clothed. Right.
• 1:31:04
  It's almost like God is saying further clothed,
• 1:31:06
  like gird up your loins again, because I've only
• 1:31:09
  told you a little bit about me. I've told you
• 1:31:12
  about the this and I've told you about this two
• 1:31:15
  chapters of my mouth talking to you and you're
• 1:31:17
  already undone. Who is this man that comes and
• 1:31:21
  asks me all these things? Well, you wanted it.
• 1:31:23
  Now you're going to get it. Job says, OK, I want
• 1:31:25
  to I want to retract my case from you. And God
• 1:31:28
  says, stand up. Exactly. Yeah. Now, I will take
• 1:31:32
  you further. We're not done. You learn more.
• 1:31:35
  I'm going to show you more. And then he's going
• 1:31:37
  to take us, he's going to show us what I think
• 1:31:39
  is amazing is I think he's describing physical
• 1:31:42
  creatures to define spiritual things already.
• 1:31:45
  But especially here, when he gets into the behemoth,
• 1:31:49
  I have read and read and read. I've looked at
• 1:31:51
  scholars. Some people think it's a hippopotamus
• 1:31:53
  or it's or it's an elephant or it's a brontosaurus,
• 1:31:58
  you know, that was alive during the time of like
• 1:32:01
  whatever. Or a rhino. I personally... Huh? Or
• 1:32:07
  a rhino. Yeah, rhino. I've heard rhino as well.
• 1:32:10
  The only weird thing about all these really super
• 1:32:12
  huge powerful creatures that you read about is
• 1:32:14
  that they don't have these like really large
• 1:32:17
  tails that swing and smack. The Brontosaurus
• 1:32:20
  would. It depends whether you're talking about
• 1:32:22
  Leviathan or Behemoth. Behemoth's the little
• 1:32:25
  tiny one. Little tiny tail. Well, it's like a
• 1:32:28
  cedar, stiff and strong. Exactly. And by the
• 1:32:31
  way, a sapling of a cedar Is very, very tough.
• 1:32:34
  Okay. But I don't think it's even about that.
• 1:32:35
  I think personally, it's the hippopotamus because
• 1:32:38
  that is an animal that lays around outside of
• 1:32:41
  the river, but then he can go into a torrent.
• 1:32:43
  And I like, did you notice how it brought up
• 1:32:45
  the river Jordan? Yes. Isn't that amazing? I
• 1:32:51
  was like, okay, so Job is from the land of us.
• 1:32:55
  Right. He's from the land of us. And we know
• 1:32:58
  that Elihu was the cousin. Buzz and us and like
• 1:33:01
  where they are in the Levant. How does this work
• 1:33:04
  and the Jordan is brought up and oh My goodness
• 1:33:08
  when it hit I was like, oh my goodness You know,
• 1:33:13
  he said he is confident though Jordan rushes
• 1:33:15
  against his mouth. Have you guys ever seen pictures
• 1:33:18
  of like hippopotamus? You know big they are right.
• 1:33:20
  You know how strong they are Yeah, and then like
• 1:33:23
  you notice like whenever a torrent comes down
• 1:33:26
  like imagine the river Jordan after a giant flood
• 1:33:28
  or us like with hurricane Helene Imagine us and
• 1:33:33
  hurricane Helene and how a hippo wouldn't give
• 1:33:35
  two craps about what was going on He thinks Russian
• 1:33:39
  and he'd be like it's taken in his mouth like
• 1:33:43
  sweet now the torrent that we had here with all
• 1:33:47
  the mountains and the woods and all that stuff,
• 1:33:49
  it just swept him down, but I don't think it
• 1:33:50
  killed him necessarily. But the point is, is
• 1:33:52
  that God's trying to say, that thing that you're
• 1:33:56
  talking about, like that guy that you're looking
• 1:33:57
  at, I made him. I made him. He can handle it.
• 1:34:05
  I made him. So all of this, even when you look
• 1:34:07
  at something so immense and with such power,
• 1:34:09
  I made that too. And can you snare him by the
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  nose? Right. Can you do this? His shade, the
• 1:34:17
  lotus trees cover him. The willows of the brooks
• 1:34:20
  surround him like he's in this people peaceful
• 1:34:23
  place. But even when the torrents come, he doesn't
• 1:34:24
  matter. He just swallows it out his mouth because
• 1:34:27
  that's who he is. That's what I made him. So
• 1:34:28
  I've given I've removed wisdom from the ostrich,
• 1:34:33
  but I've given him confidence in the storm. This
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  one. Right. It made me think of Jesus. And although
• 1:34:40
  this is probably a stretch, it's something that
• 1:34:42
  I wanted to point out. Jesus was asleep during
• 1:34:46
  the storm. Jesus was sleeping through the torrent.
• 1:34:52
  And the disciples were paling out the water and
• 1:34:54
  they're perishing and they're afraid. And they
• 1:34:57
  wake him up. And they're like, Lord, we're perishing.
• 1:35:03
  Yeah. Don't you get it? Did he get up and say,
• 1:35:08
  oh boy, I'm terrified? Or did he open his mouth
• 1:35:10
  and the storm stop? Which happened? So, you know,
• 1:35:14
  yeah, it's a stretch, but I think that's the
• 1:35:16
  point is that I think the very thing that Christ
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  is God in flesh form. Thank you. The winds and
• 1:35:22
  the waves obey him. I think this is once again,
• 1:35:24
  this is sort of like capitalizing on what we're
• 1:35:27
  reading here in Joe. And it goes all the way
• 1:35:29
  back to what he said when he started, which was
• 1:35:30
  the cornerstone. When he very first started,
• 1:35:33
  he's like, who set the cornerstone? Exactly.
• 1:35:36
  And he spoke everything to creation by the word
• 1:35:38
  of his mouth. And the word said, let there be
• 1:35:40
  light, and there was. That's right. Exactly.
• 1:35:43
  So again, this is all playing out to what we
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  see in the New Testament. Oh, guys, when we get
• 1:35:50
  to chapter 42, you'll see it. We're getting there.
• 1:35:52
  We're getting there when we get to chapter 42.
• 1:35:53
  So here's what I'm going to do. There's no sense
• 1:35:55
  in me going through it. I'm not going to tell
• 1:35:57
  you what the behemoth is. I personally think
• 1:35:58
  it's the hippopotamus. And I think that they
• 1:36:00
  were able to observe the hippopotamus that could
• 1:36:02
  do all of that. But I think there are spiritual
• 1:36:04
  meanings that go far above it. But God is showing
• 1:36:08
  him all of these things. That's who I am. And
• 1:36:12
  Job has just said, I want to retract my statement.
• 1:36:14
  God says, no. Stand up, gird yourself and take
• 1:36:19
  it. You're going to be further clothed. I'm going
• 1:36:21
  to show you who I am. Now, chapter 41. If my
• 1:36:27
  thing will work, wave my hand. Now, this is why
• 1:36:32
  I was asking how far you read because... It sort
• 1:36:37
  of sounded like chapter 41. That's where my brain
• 1:36:39
  is. It goes into this. There's 41. It starts
• 1:36:45
  with, look, any hope of capturing him. So it's
• 1:36:49
  continuing on with what it was saying right before,
• 1:36:53
  which in my book, it kind of ends. in ESV. This
• 1:36:58
  is verse 31 and 32 of the previous chapter. I'm
• 1:37:02
  just going to work my way in, Elaine, where you
• 1:37:04
  ended. Can you fill his skin with darts or his
• 1:37:06
  head with fish spears? If you lay your hand on
• 1:37:09
  him, you won't forget the fight and you'll never
• 1:37:11
  do it again. Look, any hope of capturing him
• 1:37:15
  is futile. One would fall prostrate at the very
• 1:37:19
  sight of him. No one is fierce enough to rouse
• 1:37:21
  him. So who can stand up to me? Yeah, and that's
• 1:37:26
  just something that got created. Who has given
• 1:37:30
  me anything and made me pay it back? Everything
• 1:37:33
  belongs to me under all of heaven. By the way,
• 1:37:36
  that's a great question, isn't it? Who has given
• 1:37:38
  me anything and made me pay it back? You realize
• 1:37:41
  God's never had that happen to him? No. Ever?
• 1:37:45
  No. We have. All right. I have more to say about
• 1:37:48
  his limbs, his strong talk and his matchless
• 1:37:51
  strength. Who can strip off his scaly garment?
• 1:37:54
  Who can enter his jaws? Who can pry open the
• 1:37:57
  doors of his face so close to his terrible teeth?
• 1:38:01
  His pride is his rows of scales, tightly sealed
• 1:38:04
  together. One is so close to the next that no
• 1:38:07
  air can come between them. They are stuck one
• 1:38:10
  to another, interlocked and impervious. When
• 1:38:12
  he sneezes, light flashes out. His eyes are like
• 1:38:16
  the shimmer of dawn. From his mouth go fiery
• 1:38:20
  torches, and sparks come flying out. His nostrils
• 1:38:24
  belch steam like a cauldron boiling on the fire.
• 1:38:28
  His breath sets coals ablaze, flames pour from
• 1:38:31
  his mouth. Strength resides in his neck and dismay
• 1:38:34
  dances ahead of him as he goes. The layers of
• 1:38:38
  his flesh stick together. They are firm on him,
• 1:38:42
  immovable. His heart is as hard as a stone, yet
• 1:38:46
  hard as a lower millstone. When he rears himself
• 1:38:52
  up the gods are afraid what? Do you hear that?
• 1:38:59
  When he rears himself up the gods are afraid
• 1:39:02
  beside themselves in despair You think we're
• 1:39:05
  talking about just a regular old animal anymore?
• 1:39:10
  If a sword touches him, it won't stick. Neither
• 1:39:12
  will a spear or a dart or a lance. He regards
• 1:39:15
  iron as straw and bronze as rotten wood. An arrow
• 1:39:18
  can't make him flee. For him, sling stones are
• 1:39:22
  so much chaff. Clubs count as hay, and he laughs
• 1:39:27
  at a quivering javelin. His belly is as sharp
• 1:39:29
  as fragments of pottery, so he moves across the
• 1:39:32
  mud like a threshing sledge. That's why we think
• 1:39:36
  it's a crocodile, but he's looking at it in the
• 1:39:39
  spirit like beyond Me and Elaine have been talking
• 1:39:42
  behind the scenes. He makes the depth seed like
• 1:39:45
  a pot He makes the sea like a perfume kettle
• 1:39:47
  He leaves a shining wake behind him making the
• 1:39:50
  deep seem to have white hair on earth There is
• 1:39:53
  nothing like him a creature without fear. He
• 1:39:56
  looks straight at all high things He is king
• 1:40:00
  over all proud beasts All right. I want to make
• 1:40:07
  mention of one thing real quick before we get
• 1:40:09
  too deep. I want you to notice number one, Satan
• 1:40:13
  is never mentioned again in this book. But I
• 1:40:17
  think what you're seeing here is the ultimate
• 1:40:21
  Satan on earth. Like I think what you're seeing
• 1:40:25
  here is what you will find later is the great
• 1:40:28
  sea beast and the land beast that we hear about
• 1:40:31
  in Revelation. Like this is a character. I think
• 1:40:35
  in the ancient Near East that they would talk
• 1:40:37
  about this kind of god or this kind of creature.
• 1:40:41
  It sounds like a dragon, doesn't it? Got the
• 1:40:43
  scales and then he blows fire out of his mouth.
• 1:40:45
  It sounds like a dragon and it terrifies the
• 1:40:47
  gods. Like what is he talking about here? And
• 1:40:50
  I started looking in history, the Ugaritic writings
• 1:40:53
  talked about this kind of a creature too. It's
• 1:40:54
  a chaos sea beast character, the Leviathan. Remember,
• 1:40:58
  Job mentions him earlier on, the Rahab or the
• 1:41:00
  Leviathan that's spoken about. So, this is the
• 1:41:03
  ultimate chaos monster. The ultimate chaos monster.
• 1:41:06
  Like, the biggest enemy you could ever think.
• 1:41:10
  God made him. And that's the point. God made
• 1:41:14
  him too. Even the worst... thing, the most powerful,
• 1:41:18
  fearsome thing that even the gods would shake
• 1:41:20
  and quake in their boots over. God made it too.
• 1:41:22
  That includes the Satan character in chapter
• 1:41:24
  one and chapter two. That includes the Satan
• 1:41:27
  character that Jesus faces in the wilderness.
• 1:41:29
  It includes the Satan character that stands in
• 1:41:32
  front of Balaam. It includes, which was the angel
• 1:41:35
  of the Lord, by the way, the Satan character.
• 1:41:37
  And then later on, the same old serpent that
• 1:41:41
  John mentions in Revelation. I think it's chapter
• 1:41:43
  15. That same old serpent the devil Yeah, I'm
• 1:41:52
  just I know you're I know where you're at you're
• 1:41:55
  There's something going on here that I can't
• 1:41:58
  put my finger on it's just coming to me just
• 1:42:01
  by reading it You know, it's just that there's
• 1:42:03
  something that's that's it's almost like the
• 1:42:07
  culmination in these beasts That's right right
• 1:42:12
  at the end God God is and we're getting ready
• 1:42:16
  to cross over the threshold When we get into
• 1:42:18
  chapter 42, okay Remember, he's asked him to
• 1:42:21
  get up the loins and he said God himself said
• 1:42:24
  I need to tell you more about this beast Do you
• 1:42:27
  notice? Yeah said that I need to tell you a little
• 1:42:30
  bit more about this piece. I'm not done talking
• 1:42:31
  about him yet Okay So you haven't heard about
• 1:42:35
  the Satan character and he hasn't been around
• 1:42:37
  He's been speaking through his friends in my
• 1:42:39
  opinion and then you get to the end and God starts
• 1:42:41
  talking about this Chaotic sea beast. In my opinion,
• 1:42:47
  guys, the same chaotic sea beast is the one that's
• 1:42:49
  represented as the Satan character in the Sons
• 1:42:51
  of God. He's the one that's up there saying,
• 1:42:54
  if you take all of these things away from him,
• 1:42:56
  he'll curse you. If you do this to him, he'll
• 1:42:58
  curse you. And God says, oh, I made him to do
• 1:43:02
  that. Have you ever thought of that? I made him
• 1:43:06
  to do that. I'm really sort of starting to see
• 1:43:12
  something sort of slightly different. On Earth,
• 1:43:16
  there is nothing like him, a creature without
• 1:43:18
  fear. He looks straight at all high things. He's
• 1:43:21
  king over all proud beasts. Right. Who is that?
• 1:43:26
  Who is that? I don't know. If you're king over
• 1:43:29
  all proud beasts, you could look at it two ways.
• 1:43:31
  You know, you could say that you're king over
• 1:43:33
  all of those that think that they are something,
• 1:43:35
  but they are not. or you could say that you are
• 1:43:38
  king over those because you are the epitome of
• 1:43:41
  that which is proud. I think it's kind of like
• 1:43:44
  whenever you read Ezekiel when he talks about
• 1:43:46
  the Prince of Tyre or he talks about you know
• 1:43:49
  you have these these different people oh how
• 1:43:52
  you tried to rise up you were in the garden of
• 1:43:54
  God you were in the stones and then you lifted
• 1:43:56
  yourself above me oh Lucifer son of the morning
• 1:43:59
  right. Well Thessalonians haven't you you've
• 1:44:01
  got him right you know sitting himself in that
• 1:44:03
  temple as if he is God. The man of lawlessness,
• 1:44:06
  yeah. So these things that keep showing up like
• 1:44:10
  this, this chaos beast, this Satan character,
• 1:44:14
  whoever it is, this Leviathan thing, in the Ugaritic
• 1:44:18
  it was a multiple, in the Greeks it was a multiple
• 1:44:20
  headed, like it's over and over. The Hydra is
• 1:44:23
  what it's really talking about. It's like this
• 1:44:25
  sea beast creature that can blow fire and nobody
• 1:44:28
  can catch it. I think it's talking about crocodiles
• 1:44:30
  and also talking about the ultimate. the ultimate
• 1:44:33
  chaos beast. And if you want Elaine, you can
• 1:44:37
  do, we can do a follow -up if you're really,
• 1:44:39
  really digging in and seeing something here.
• 1:44:42
  And we can talk about it in our Q &A and our
• 1:44:44
  Q &A will be as long as it needs to be. We'll
• 1:44:47
  keep Elaine up all night long, right? That'll
• 1:44:50
  give you till Thursday to get ready. Yeah, but
• 1:44:53
  as I say, I'd really like to, cause again, you
• 1:44:55
  know, he's talking about the Behemoth and Leviathan.
• 1:45:00
  I don't know. It's, Like he says there, now consider
• 1:45:03
  the behemoth whom I made along with you. And
• 1:45:06
  then you've got Leviathan. Can you catch him
• 1:45:09
  with a fishhook? Look, the behemoth is the land
• 1:45:15
  beast, and the Leviathan is the sea beast, and
• 1:45:17
  you're going to find them in Revelation. And
• 1:45:19
  it's a combination. It's the clay and the iron
• 1:45:22
  that mix together at the base of the statue.
• 1:45:25
  He's telling the story of Israel. And we are
• 1:45:28
  that Israel. It's not done, OK? We are the Israel
• 1:45:30
  beast. it's definitely it's definitely this is
• 1:45:33
  what I'm saying there's definitely the end again
• 1:45:36
  because you go back to Genesis you've got you
• 1:45:39
  know it says and and and land came dry land appeared
• 1:45:42
  in waters and he separated the waters and made
• 1:45:45
  them see so again so you've got these two separate
• 1:45:48
  sort of characters going on here that I made
• 1:45:50
  both of them And I believe that the behemoth
• 1:45:54
  is showing where Israel is apostate and I think
• 1:45:57
  that the sea beast is Rome That's coming in and
• 1:46:00
  they're working together at some point and then
• 1:46:02
  they're destroyed like it's telling the whole
• 1:46:04
  story of Israel Absolutely telling the whole
• 1:46:06
  story. It absolutely is and I mean from start
• 1:46:09
  to finish. I don't mean the whole story I mean
• 1:46:11
  like from its inception till Christ and the fulfillment
• 1:46:15
  of us That's right Author and finisher of the
• 1:46:22
  faith. I am the aid of the Z. I'm the beginning
• 1:46:24
  of the end. Exactly. And I mean, even going in
• 1:46:26
  39, like we said, you know, going into the animals
• 1:46:29
  here and talks about like the horse and going
• 1:46:31
  into battle and it looks like a locus. But there's
• 1:46:34
  things like that in Revelation. That's right.
• 1:46:36
  And they're not frightened of anything. No. I
• 1:46:39
  mean, they go, they're scales. I mean, when they,
• 1:46:41
  when you think about it as well, that, you know,
• 1:46:43
  they've got that, you know, when they put their
• 1:46:45
  shields, they're so close knit, aren't they?
• 1:46:48
  Nothing pierces it. That's right. And you know
• 1:46:50
  what? That's right. That's that's how Rome did
• 1:46:53
  it, didn't it? Right. That's exactly OK. So let's
• 1:46:57
  let's go ahead and read 42. And I think it's
• 1:47:01
  only right that Elaine reads the final chapter
• 1:47:03
  of the book. Are you OK with that? Why me? Pretty
• 1:47:08
  please because you have a beautiful voice, but
• 1:47:09
  you've been you've read most that you have and
• 1:47:11
  you've read most of this book Trying to say I
• 1:47:14
  don't want to do it. So no and actually I love
• 1:47:16
  reading out loud, but I want you to read this
• 1:47:19
  please And listen guys listen You've heard us
• 1:47:23
  just we've kind of like went all over the map
• 1:47:24
  here. We've been talking to you for almost two
• 1:47:26
  hours We're going to close up this study here
• 1:47:27
  in just a few minutes, but I want you to think
• 1:47:29
  about something God's told the whole of the story
• 1:47:32
  in my opinion and he's used job to do this and
• 1:47:35
  what's really unique is is that in order to create
• 1:47:38
  the greater Israel, you've got to have the chaos
• 1:47:40
  beast. In order to create the greater Israel
• 1:47:43
  in His Son, you have to have suffering. All of
• 1:47:46
  this is part of it. I don't know why. I'm not
• 1:47:49
  going to give you the answer why, other than
• 1:47:51
  that's what God wants from us. He wants us to
• 1:47:54
  endure and to be in relationship with Him. Do
• 1:47:56
  you know what, Rick? I think it is because at
• 1:47:58
  the end of the day, you know if they did they
• 1:48:00
  hadn't eaten of the tree of the knowledge of
• 1:48:01
  good and evil we wouldn't be in the situation
• 1:48:04
  that we are now but i think the situation that
• 1:48:06
  we're in now is beneficial for us simply because
• 1:48:10
  it it won't happen again because we've chosen
• 1:48:12
  to eat the fruit of christ yes and i think you're
• 1:48:16
  everything Yes, I think that the effect of good
• 1:48:19
  and evil, that tree is what it means to be an
• 1:48:21
  atom, that we're all born into this world. And
• 1:48:24
  that in order to know Christ, you must be born
• 1:48:25
  again. And then you go into the spirit realm.
• 1:48:27
  And then from there we shed our earthly tent
• 1:48:29
  and we're with him. But you don't understand
• 1:48:31
  all of that unless you have the chaos beast and
• 1:48:33
  you have the suffering. You go back to Genesis
• 1:48:35
  1 verse 3, verse 2. Now the earth was without
• 1:48:40
  form and chaos. Right. So who are we talking
• 1:48:43
  about? All of these beasts. these are nations,
• 1:48:46
  these are peoples, these are attitudes, these
• 1:48:48
  are conditions. So God is using all of those
• 1:48:51
  things to bring about a condition. This is the
• 1:48:53
  chaos that's been brought about by Adam, who
• 1:48:55
  was created from the dust of the ground. He produced
• 1:48:58
  it. Who sold us down the river, as you say. Who
• 1:49:02
  sold us down the river. Exactly, he did sell
• 1:49:05
  us down the river. Literally, I mean, the deep
• 1:49:07
  is the river that he sold us down, because everybody
• 1:49:09
  that came from his loins had the same defect.
• 1:49:12
  We are all born in darkness, but it was only
• 1:49:15
  those that he said, let there be light. And he
• 1:49:18
  drew like it's a flutter is over and it's lapping
• 1:49:21
  up the waters. And so therefore, yeah, once again,
• 1:49:24
  we're going back to this, this wonderful love
• 1:49:26
  story that was right there. And we just said
• 1:49:28
  about the, where was you when the earth was formed
• 1:49:30
  and I laid the cornerstone? Well, yeah, that's
• 1:49:34
  going right the way back to Genesis again. It's
• 1:49:35
  taken us right the way back, you know. and all
• 1:49:38
  the animals we've said that before the animals
• 1:49:40
  all the way through scriptures you know we've
• 1:49:42
  got animals depicting nations depicting individuals
• 1:49:45
  depicting whoever groups of people sheeps and
• 1:49:48
  goats and you know nations you know world powers
• 1:49:53
  and individuals so yeah it's all and it all goes
• 1:49:57
  back to genesis the first adam and it goes back
• 1:50:00
  to the reality which is christ which is the the
• 1:50:03
  last adam Yeah. The whole thing is just - I know.
• 1:50:07
  It's all - Elaine. He's so connected. Did you
• 1:50:10
  know - Did you know all of this was in the book
• 1:50:12
  of Job? Me? Did you - Yeah, did you know that
• 1:50:15
  all of - No! Had none of this happen would we
• 1:50:18
  have not like look all of this is in the book
• 1:50:20
  of job Did you guys know that's like are you
• 1:50:23
  kidding me? All right, so let's let's finish
• 1:50:25
  up Let's if you would read the last 16 verses
• 1:50:28
  of this book Let's close out our study and then
• 1:50:31
  guys will it will tell you that we're gonna do
• 1:50:33
  a Q &A I'm gonna say Thursday at 6 p .m. This
• 1:50:35
  Thursday at 6 p .m Elaine you and I will talk
• 1:50:38
  behind the scenes if anything changes look on
• 1:50:40
  patreon I'll put a notice out so that you guys
• 1:50:42
  can join us. Okay excellent prices Then, at last,
• 1:50:47
  Job gave Adonai this answer. I know that you
• 1:50:51
  can do everything, that no purpose of yours can
• 1:50:54
  be thwarted. You asked, who is this hiding council
• 1:50:57
  without having knowledge? Yes, I spoke without
• 1:51:01
  understanding of wonders far beyond me, which
• 1:51:04
  I didn't know. Please listen and I will speak,
• 1:51:07
  you said. I will question and you give me answers.
• 1:51:11
  I had heard about you with my ears. But now my
• 1:51:15
  eye sees you. Boom. I love it. Boom. Therefore,
• 1:51:21
  I detest myself. Yes, we do. And repent in dust
• 1:51:24
  and ashes. After Adonai had spoken these words
• 1:51:28
  to Joe, Adonai said to Eliphas, the Timmini.
• 1:51:32
  What? He's going to talk to Eliphas. Here we
• 1:51:35
  go. Yeah. My Adonai is blazing against you and
• 1:51:40
  your two friends because Unlike my servant, Job,
• 1:51:46
  you have not spoken rightly about me. So now
• 1:51:50
  get yourselves seven young bulls and seven rams
• 1:51:54
  and go to my servant Job and offer up yourselves
• 1:51:57
  a burnt offering. My servant Job will pray for
• 1:52:01
  you because him I will accept so that I won't
• 1:52:04
  punish you as your boorishness deserves because
• 1:52:08
  you have not spoken rightly about me. as my servant
• 1:52:12
  Job has. What? I know. So Eliphaz, the Temunai,
• 1:52:18
  Bildad, the Suki, and so far the Naamati went
• 1:52:23
  and did what Adonai had ordered them to do, and
• 1:52:26
  Adonai accepted Job's prayer. When Job prayed
• 1:52:30
  for his friends, Adonai restored his fortunes.
• 1:52:34
  Adonai gave him twice as much as he had before.
• 1:52:37
  Then all of his brothers and sisters came to
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  him. Also all who had known him before, and they
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  ate a meal with him in his house. They consoled
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  and comforted him for all the evils Adonai had
• 1:52:49
  inflicted on him. Each one gave him a piece of
• 1:52:51
  silver and a gold ring. Adonai blessed Job's
• 1:52:55
  later situation even more than his earlier one.
• 1:52:58
  He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand
• 1:53:01
  camels, a thousand pairs of oxen, and a thousand
• 1:53:05
  female donkeys. He also had seven sons and three
• 1:53:09
  daughters. The first he named Yamima, the second
• 1:53:13
  Kitsiya, and the third Keren Hapuka. Nowhere
• 1:53:18
  in the land could women be found as beautiful
• 1:53:21
  as Job's daughters, and their father gave them
• 1:53:23
  inheritances along with their brothers. After
• 1:53:26
  this, Job lived 140 years, long enough to see
• 1:53:30
  his sons and grandsons, four generations. Then,
• 1:53:34
  old and full of days, Job died. Mm. Listen. It
• 1:53:41
  brings tears to your eyes because it's so beautiful.
• 1:53:44
  It was 17 verses. I said 16. Listen, excellent
• 1:53:48
  job, Elaine, reading this whole time during the
• 1:53:50
  series. Bless you and you. But listen, listen,
• 1:53:53
  guys, this is this is such a wild part. I love
• 1:53:57
  this. So Joe comes right out and he's like, you
• 1:54:01
  asked, who is this hiding counsel without having
• 1:54:04
  knowledge? Yet I spoke without understanding
• 1:54:07
  so he's like when God finally comes to him He's
• 1:54:10
  like, okay Who is this that does this, you know,
• 1:54:12
  and he makes him stand and stand and deal with
• 1:54:14
  it He finally gets it. He says you know what?
• 1:54:17
  There were wonders far beyond me, which I didn't
• 1:54:19
  know I will speak You give me answers. You said
• 1:54:23
  give me answers God you said you speak now and
• 1:54:26
  you give me answers here and I love this I heard
• 1:54:29
  about you with my ears But now my eye sees you
• 1:54:33
  I know That's this inner person, isn't it? Let
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  me ask you guys a question. Do you think he could
• 1:54:39
  see a whirlwind? Do I think he could see a whirlwind?
• 1:54:43
  Do you think Job could actually see a whirlwind?
• 1:54:45
  I think he could see, I don't know whether he
• 1:54:47
  actually saw a whirlwind as, you know, dust blowing
• 1:54:50
  around. What did Jesus say? What did Jesus say
• 1:54:53
  to Nicodemus? He said, you see, being born from
• 1:54:58
  above is like this. The wind goes wherever it
• 1:55:01
  wants. And you can hear it. You can see its effect,
• 1:55:06
  right? But you don't know where it's coming from.
• 1:55:09
  You don't know where it's going. The same with
• 1:55:10
  those born of the Spirit. This whirlwind is representation
• 1:55:14
  of that, in my opinion, of the new covenant kingdom
• 1:55:17
  that's coming, and it's by the Spirit. And Job
• 1:55:20
  says, and now I see you. Look, what did Jesus
• 1:55:23
  always say? For those who have ears to hear,
• 1:55:25
  let them hear what the Spirit says. They have
• 1:55:28
  eyes but they cannot see because they're blind,
• 1:55:31
  right? Job is showing us what it means to be
• 1:55:33
  born again. You remember what it says in Corinthians
• 1:55:37
  where it says, when there is a turning to Christ,
• 1:55:39
  the veil is taken away. Yes. It's this understanding,
• 1:55:45
  it's this heart movement that you know this person
• 1:55:51
  who they are. So instead of just hearing about
• 1:55:53
  you or heard about you, Now you see it and that's
• 1:55:56
  what it says. The veil is taken away. You can
• 1:56:00
  see with the perception, with the understanding,
• 1:56:04
  with the trusting, it's internal. It's not with
• 1:56:07
  your eyes, it's not physically that you see.
• 1:56:10
  It's an internal seeing. It's a movement within.
• 1:56:14
  And this is what Job is saying, the thing, everything
• 1:56:16
  was external. It started externally. It's a bit
• 1:56:20
  like the Jews, they had the law, externally they
• 1:56:23
  saw it, they did this, they did that, they offered
• 1:56:24
  up this, blah, blah, blah, same as Job. But then
• 1:56:27
  when the veil is taken away in Christ, they see
• 1:56:31
  fully, they understand fully who God actually
• 1:56:34
  is. It's not about external, it's about internal.
• 1:56:39
  That's right. This is what I think that Job is
• 1:56:41
  now saying, he says, I heard, I heard about you,
• 1:56:45
  but now I see you. And then what's amazing, that
• 1:56:50
  he turns and he speaks to Eliphaz Eliphaz didn't
• 1:56:55
  ask for that did he? No. But because of what
• 1:57:00
  happens to Job Eliphaz does come to him Eliphaz
• 1:57:04
  does come to him like to be with him he eventually
• 1:57:06
  you know accuses him of things that he shouldn't
• 1:57:08
  be but he comes to him as a brother but what
• 1:57:11
  ends up happening is that you get this this effect
• 1:57:17
  As you draw closer to God, even your enemies
• 1:57:20
  or even your friends, whatever, can be spoken
• 1:57:22
  to by God as well. That's one part of it. There's
• 1:57:26
  another part of the big story, which is the Gentiles
• 1:57:28
  are coming in. Okay, so he then will speak to
• 1:57:32
  them and that's where he sends Paul to go after
• 1:57:35
  them. Okay, so Christ was first and then after
• 1:57:38
  Peter and Paul, that's where it starts to go
• 1:57:40
  to the Gentiles. This is that scene, right, where
• 1:57:43
  God is now speaking to the Eliphaz, but they
• 1:57:46
  still have to be, they have to come in, but they
• 1:57:48
  have to do it under Job's sacrifices. Exactly.
• 1:57:52
  Which is where the Gentiles come in, but it comes
• 1:57:54
  under Christ who is the Jew first. First for
• 1:57:58
  the Jew and then Okay, so that's the story that's
• 1:58:00
  being told here, but but then Because he says
• 1:58:05
  there I know that you can do everything that
• 1:58:07
  no purpose of yours Can be thwarted right? What
• 1:58:12
  is the purpose? What is the ultimate goal? It's
• 1:58:16
  to bring Christ into the world and for great
• 1:58:19
  for Christ to be that one that tears down the
• 1:58:21
  wall of separation and then brings together under
• 1:58:26
  Christ, under knowing God, under seeing Him,
• 1:58:28
  not just hearing about Him. It is the story of
• 1:58:31
  the gospel. It is. It's the whole story of Israel.
• 1:58:36
  I've been saying that. Yeah, absolutely. All
• 1:58:38
  right. So now he tells him to get seven young
• 1:58:40
  bulls and seven rams and to offer and then go
• 1:58:45
  to Job. So he's telling Elphi, you go bring the
• 1:58:47
  sacrifice to my servant Job. OK. And then he
• 1:58:50
  tells him, like, you guys didn't speak right
• 1:58:52
  of me. But he says, If he does it for you, I'll
• 1:58:58
  accept it on behalf of you, and I won't punish
• 1:59:02
  you as your boorishness deserves because you
• 1:59:08
  have not spoken rightly about me as my servant
• 1:59:09
  Job has. So as you've known, even though Elihu
• 1:59:13
  comes and jumps down Job's throat because he
• 1:59:16
  wasn't giving God the right, which he was right
• 1:59:19
  about, Job, he didn't misspeak. We know this
• 1:59:23
  now. God himself said it. You didn't speak rightly
• 1:59:26
  of me. See, you weren't representing me truthfully,
• 1:59:30
  whereas Job was, honestly. Yeah, he darkened
• 1:59:33
  my counsel without knowledge, but that doesn't
• 1:59:36
  mean that he's wrong. He just needs to know me
• 1:59:39
  further. This is the whole thing, isn't it, that
• 1:59:41
  you think because God is just, your reasoning
• 1:59:43
  is, well, you must have done something, because
• 1:59:45
  if God is just, he wouldn't be inflicting something
• 1:59:47
  like that upon you, because that's not, you consider,
• 1:59:50
  well, that's not justice. So therefore they reasoned
• 1:59:54
  wrongly about God. And that was the whole point.
• 1:59:57
  And they were taking that as gospel, if you like.
• 2:00:01
  That is what God is. But it was so far removed
• 2:00:04
  from what God was. It's a bit like the Jews coming
• 2:00:06
  up against the Christians. It's a bit like the
• 2:00:08
  Jews coming up against Christ, you know, thinking
• 2:00:11
  that they knew everything, thinking that this
• 2:00:12
  is the Lord, that's it. I give a tenth of this
• 2:00:14
  and I offer up that and blah, blah, blah. And
• 2:00:16
  I'm doing it all correctly, but they just totally
• 2:00:18
  miss seeing him. Yeah. That it's so, I mean,
• 2:00:23
  I never knew Job was about this, Elaine. But
• 2:00:26
  get ready. Get ready for this one. This is this
• 2:00:30
  is probably my most favorite part of this book.
• 2:00:32
  And I've been through this book the whole time.
• 2:00:34
  But listen to this. So after he prays. It says
• 2:00:39
  right here that his whole family comes back to
• 2:00:42
  him, so that means that his family were there
• 2:00:43
  the whole time, but they didn't come to him,
• 2:00:45
  did they? His friends did there was a purpose
• 2:00:48
  for this. Okay, but his family were there so
• 2:00:50
  now everything's back and his brothers and sisters
• 2:00:52
  come on or whatever and They consoled and comfort
• 2:00:55
  him for all the evils that Adonai had done It's
• 2:00:59
  acknowledging the fact that God had done this
• 2:01:00
  to him. He allowed it And each one gave him a
• 2:01:04
  piece of silver and a gold ring There's something
• 2:01:10
  there all right Ad and I bless Job's later situation
• 2:01:14
  even more than his earlier when he had 14 ,000
• 2:01:16
  camels remember earlier He had 7 ,000. He had
• 2:01:19
  sick or sheep. He had 6 ,000 camels. He had 3
• 2:01:21
  ,000 camels at the beginning He had 1 ,000 pairs
• 2:01:24
  of oxen yet He had 500 pairs of oxen at the beginning
• 2:01:27
  of the story and then 1 ,000 female donkeys He
• 2:01:29
  had 500 female donkeys at the beginning of the
• 2:01:32
  story. Okay, but I want you to listen to this
• 2:01:34
  He also had seven sons and three daughters Now
• 2:01:37
  I didn't say that he gave him a double amount
• 2:01:40
  of sons and daughters did it The reason why is
• 2:01:43
  because those first sons and daughters still
• 2:01:44
  matter in the posterity. They do. 100%. They
• 2:01:47
  still matter later in the story for Job as well.
• 2:01:50
  They do. Okay, they do. But I want you to notice
• 2:01:53
  something about the Book of Job. Do they ever
• 2:01:56
  name the sons? No. But they name the three daughters,
• 2:02:00
  don't they? They do. They're born after this.
• 2:02:04
  Don't you find that kind of interesting? I do.
• 2:02:06
  And then the fact it says there. that nowhere
• 2:02:08
  in the land could women be found as beautiful
• 2:02:11
  as Job's daughters. And again, it is this beauty.
• 2:02:15
  I don't think it was taught. It may have been
• 2:02:17
  physically as well, but I think that internally
• 2:02:20
  it's talking about this beauty that they see
• 2:02:23
  God. And yes, that is beautiful and I love it.
• 2:02:27
  But you know what I think the most important
• 2:02:29
  thing about those daughters? It's the next verse.
• 2:02:32
  Listen to what he says. And their father gave
• 2:02:36
  them inheritances along with their brothers.
• 2:02:39
  I knew you. That's the same thing as me. The
• 2:02:41
  same thing as me. Because in those times... That
• 2:02:45
  does not happen. No. That does not happen. No,
• 2:02:49
  but what do we know about men and women in the
• 2:02:53
  New Testament? What do we know about that? When
• 2:02:54
  Jesus comes out of the tomb, does he immediately
• 2:02:58
  run to Peter? No. Who does he go to? Mary. Yeah.
• 2:03:05
  Right. Or the women are there. Women are the
• 2:03:09
  well. Sitting down with Mary, Martha's faffing
• 2:03:13
  about doing dinners. It is women. And this is,
• 2:03:17
  and they have inherited, inherited, inherited.
• 2:03:21
  Oh. Inherited. Inherited. You got it. inheritances
• 2:03:26
  along with their brothers and again it's this
• 2:03:28
  equality being brought out isn't it because in
• 2:03:31
  you know when you look back there like you said
• 2:03:33
  there is neither male nor female uh -huh and
• 2:03:37
  that's the whole thing Jew nor Greek slave nor
• 2:03:40
  free it's the whole thing here they're all getting
• 2:03:44
  the same inheritance and we know what that inheritance
• 2:03:48
  is yes we have it Guys, Job is the total story
• 2:03:53
  of Israel and how to become a high priest and
• 2:03:55
  how Christ is the one that did it. That's what
• 2:03:57
  it's about. That's what it's about. And Elihu
• 2:04:01
  represents John the Baptist. By the way, guys,
• 2:04:04
  you don't hear another thing about Elihu before
• 2:04:07
  or after. In my opinion, he's the John the Baptist.
• 2:04:10
  And I think that he says he must decrease so
• 2:04:13
  that Christ can increase. I think that that's
• 2:04:14
  the whole point. He's the one that brings the
• 2:04:16
  whirlwind and it shows you that this is it. He's
• 2:04:18
  like the mediator between the two. He's the go
• 2:04:20
  -between, isn't it? You know, he's got this bit
• 2:04:23
  and then he hands it over. Yeah. Someone's trying
• 2:04:29
  to ring. Can somebody ring you? No, that's how
• 2:04:32
  do I deny? No, stop, stop. Message i ring you
• 2:04:36
  in a bit console right now that's it go oh dear
• 2:04:40
  sorry. That's it gone sorry about that yeah that's
• 2:04:46
  okay so so here all right so we're at the end
• 2:04:49
  of the story we're at the end of job and the
• 2:04:52
  link that says is that and after this job lived
• 2:04:54
  a hundred and forty years okay remember that
• 2:04:57
  means that it was prior to the time whenever
• 2:04:58
  god would not live let people live past one hundred
• 2:05:01
  and twenty years you can go back and see that
• 2:05:03
  okay. Long enough to see his sons and grandsons,
• 2:05:06
  four generations. Hang on a minute. Bye, darling.
• 2:05:09
  Here's going my husband. Bye, darling. See you
• 2:05:14
  later. Enjoy. See you, Chris. See you, Chris.
• 2:05:18
  See you. Now everybody on our job study has finally
• 2:05:22
  heard Chris. I get to talk to him. He's a lovely
• 2:05:24
  man. All right. So. And so I want you to remember
• 2:05:30
  that there's a time in the scriptures whenever
• 2:05:31
  God says, my men are flesh and I will not deal
• 2:05:34
  with it much longer. So 120 years is where I
• 2:05:36
  put the capstone. Job is in the patriarchal period.
• 2:05:39
  So we know this because right now it says that
• 2:05:42
  Job lived 140 years after all of that happened.
• 2:05:46
  So we don't know how old he really is. It doesn't
• 2:05:48
  really say, but what's more important is that
• 2:05:50
  he gets to see four generations beyond that.
• 2:05:52
  So he's incredibly blessed man. Yeah, and if
• 2:05:55
  you think a generation is 40 years, the man's
• 2:05:57
  160, isn't he? Yeah, plus the 140, that would
• 2:06:00
  make him 300 years, but he's already older than
• 2:06:03
  that. I think he's probably 490 years old. Well,
• 2:06:08
  to be honest... And I'll tell you why. If we
• 2:06:10
  go from Daniel... Because that's the 70 weeks.
• 2:06:14
  It's all there. It's all in here. I'm telling
• 2:06:18
  you. That would take a little bit of sort of,
• 2:06:20
  you know, I'm not, yeah. I'm not even going into
• 2:06:22
  the numbers. Okay. But listen, to all of you
• 2:06:25
  guys that have been with us from the start, if
• 2:06:28
  you're willing to comment, I want, I want to
• 2:06:30
  ask you a direct question. Did you think that
• 2:06:34
  this is what this book was about? Did you go
• 2:06:37
  through the study and suddenly think, uh -oh,
• 2:06:40
  I didn't know what this book was about. I did.
• 2:06:43
  I thought I knew what it was about. And I was
• 2:06:45
  going through hell on earth. And I was like,
• 2:06:47
  Elaine, I'm going to go through the book of Job.
• 2:06:49
  I got to see what all this is about. Oh, my goodness.
• 2:06:52
  Am I glad I did. And I hope that if anybody in
• 2:06:55
  your life is going through hardship that you
• 2:06:57
  know, point them to this study. Take them and
• 2:07:00
  say, go through it with them, guys. It's only
• 2:07:03
  20 -something episodes, but go through it with
• 2:07:05
  them and listen to it because there's something
• 2:07:07
  more that you need to see. This is the story
• 2:07:09
  of Israel. It's about the high priest and how
• 2:07:11
  Christ is a high priest It's about all of what
• 2:07:14
  God had in store for his people and he told it
• 2:07:17
  long before it ever happened He did and guess
• 2:07:20
  what? He knew it before he even laid the first
• 2:07:23
  cornerstone He did and and that's the whole thing
• 2:07:26
  isn't it in the beginning Aleph Tav Yes, yes,
• 2:07:30
  and that's it It's the power of the cross the
• 2:07:32
  Aleph is the power the strength the Tav is the
• 2:07:35
  mark the sign the cross, so he is the power of
• 2:07:39
  the cross that created the heavens and the earth.
• 2:07:41
  It's the word all the time, all the time. It's
• 2:07:46
  incredibly amazing. It's a love story. It's the
• 2:07:49
  most gorgeous, beautiful, tender love story in
• 2:07:54
  the whole of eternity. It is. It's beautiful,
• 2:07:58
  beautiful. You know, the template of the creation
• 2:08:01
  laying over the top of it, this wonderful sort
• 2:08:04
  of journey that we're on spiritually. and where
• 2:08:06
  we're going to end up. It's crazy. And I mean
• 2:08:10
  that in the most, it's amazing. It's awe -inspiring.
• 2:08:13
  It's beyond your wildest dreams. It's just too
• 2:08:17
  beautiful to even, I can't even think of words
• 2:08:20
  that would describe it. Can't. It just is touching
• 2:08:24
  you sort of in the, do you want to go out, Billy?
• 2:08:28
  Come on. My dog, Billy. Yeah. You need to put
• 2:08:33
  your dog out? No, he just wants a tickle. Okay,
• 2:08:37
  well you've been on I'm having a tickle. I just
• 2:08:39
  my hand. I think tickles tickles. I'm having
• 2:08:41
  a tickle right I Have dogs I used to have dogs.
• 2:08:47
  I haven't had a dog in quite some time and I
• 2:08:48
  miss it Sometimes I wish I had a dog. I love
• 2:08:51
  dogs. Oh, it's three So does job fear God for
• 2:08:54
  nothing? That's the question The final thing
• 2:09:02
  that Joe said is now my eyes, my eyes see you.
• 2:09:05
  You got it. And that's the thing, you know, does
• 2:09:08
  fear you for nothing? Well, he didn't even really
• 2:09:10
  know what fear was until he had it all taken
• 2:09:12
  away. And that was that. And that's the point
• 2:09:15
  that Satan once again thought he was doing a
• 2:09:17
  disservice, like when he put Christ on the cross,
• 2:09:19
  thought he was doing a disservice. But actually,
• 2:09:22
  he brought about the prophecies that were going
• 2:09:26
  to set the ball rolling, which includes us where
• 2:09:30
  we are now. Mm hmm. You know, saying back there,
• 2:09:33
  set the ball rolling. I mean, you know, he's
• 2:09:35
  again, you know, I'm not dissing anyone because
• 2:09:37
  even Moses didn't even the angels when they had
• 2:09:40
  to speak of Moses body didn't charge anything
• 2:09:42
  like that. But you got to think to yourself,
• 2:09:44
  you know, haven't you woken up yet? I mean, he's
• 2:09:48
  gone. I mean, I think he's gone anyway. Now he's
• 2:09:50
  at lake of fire back there in, you know, 2000
• 2:09:53
  years ago. But yeah, you just think where he
• 2:09:56
  just, you know, it's just that you This is how
• 2:09:59
  arrogant and how haughty and proud he was that
• 2:10:04
  he thought that he could actually outdo God.
• 2:10:06
  Personally, this is my own personal thought process.
• 2:10:09
  I think that he was the first angel that God
• 2:10:12
  ever created. That's who I think this Satan is,
• 2:10:17
  the one there that went before the one who sort
• 2:10:19
  of challenged those in the Garden of Eden. I
• 2:10:22
  think he was the first one. I think that everything
• 2:10:24
  after that he saw how he brought it about and
• 2:10:29
  I think that that's why he thought he could challenge
• 2:10:31
  him because he thought well I know an awful lot
• 2:10:34
  you've taught me an awful lot but at the end
• 2:10:38
  of the day yeah because I think he was the first
• 2:10:40
  born angel created angel the first created I
• 2:10:44
  think God made him to be that way I think God
• 2:10:47
  designed him to be exactly what he was yeah this
• 2:10:49
  is what God wanted this yeah while she's putting
• 2:10:54
  bill out i'll say it out loud again and i'll
• 2:10:56
  say it when she comes back like i believe that
• 2:10:59
  the satan that was created was created because
• 2:11:03
  god wanted it this way god made the satan the
• 2:11:06
  way that he determined to do so that satan will
• 2:11:09
  always function in the way in which god designed
• 2:11:11
  him to do so yeah And this is it. And I think
• 2:11:13
  this is where you got the duality of the physical
• 2:11:16
  and the spiritual. You know, you got the first
• 2:11:17
  Adam physical and the last Adam, who's Christ
• 2:11:20
  physical, he came to the earth as a god in flesh.
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  But you also had the first born angel or the
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  first created angel. And then you had the first
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  son that came from heaven. So I think then you
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  got the spiritual, the spiritual, the one that
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  thought he could do everything, but the one Christ
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  that actually obeyed, submitted to the father.
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  and did everything, didn't challenge him, just
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  pleased him all the time. This is my son who
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  pleases me. And then you got Adam, he brought
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  about chaos. And then you got Christ who brought
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  about peace and tranquility and all that is good
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  through the spirit. There's the duality in the
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  heavens. And there's the one, you know, because
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  again, you know, the firstborn overall creation.
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  And again, you're talking about Christ over the
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  creation of all that is back there physically.
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  but also spiritually he was. But again, but he
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  was always there as God. So yeah, we have to
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  look at the physical aspects of him. But yeah,
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  that's what I think that's what I think it goes
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  back to. But yeah, Satan thought that he could
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  challenge God. And instead of recognizing that
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  he was in that wonderful position, that was a
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  great honor to be that first one. I think that
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  he thought that's why he could challenge. That's
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  why I get that's what I think. That's my own
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  personal thought process on the thing. You know,
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  but then you had the only begotten, unique one,
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  one of a kind, Christ, you know, that came down,
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  that was the son that was obedient and, you know,
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  bowed to his father. Yeah. And I think you should
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  recognize this, you know, when Jesus talks about
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  the binding of the strong man, he must first
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  go in and bind him before he plunders his house.
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  I mean, that's talking about that, that satan
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  character. It's talking about the envy of God.
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  The binding is everyone that is in opposition.
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  You know, the adversary is the one that's, you
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  know, and that could be anybody. It could be
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  Satan, the demonic forces. But it shows it again,
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  like at the end of the scriptures, when you get
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  to the millennial reign, where is he at? He's
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  in the abyss. He's bound him in the abyss, right?
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  But what happens? He lets him out. He lets him
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  out for a little season. God's always in control.
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  The thing is, again, you've got to say to yourself,
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  will he let him out in the last three and a half
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  years? Then if he was bound, well, he was on
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  the earth still doing an awful lot. But the only
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  thing is that he was bound in was that he could
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  not now thwart the plans of God. You have to
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  bind someone. And I think that the binding of
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  him was the fact that the gospel went out to
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  all the world. a million percent but my point
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  is is that he bound him and then he let him loose
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  like god is always in control and that is like
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  a dog that he lets off a chain it is designed
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  to do something and god used it in order to have
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  what what he wanted and that was us we were part
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  of what he wanted yeah who are you darkening
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  my plans you know i i know everything you know
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  my plans you consider to be dark are actually
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  totally out of light That's right. I designed
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  them. I was the one that I was the architect.
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  I was the one that orchestrated it. You know,
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  and this is the whole thing. You know, we have
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  to understand that no matter what happens in
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  our lives, that this is fleeting. We have an
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  eternity that Christ died to give us. And as
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  we're passing through, we've died to self, we're
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  passing through, we've been made. And all we
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  just need to do is to dispense the gospel, is
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  to speak to everybody, any opportunity that we
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  can. Because, you know, I want to hear, well
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  done. Yeah, so do I. And that's it. But again,
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  the whole thing is, you know, again, you could
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  spend another couple of sessions discussing the
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  whole thing in its entirety, trying to bring
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  it together. Well, I mean, I think that's what
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  the Q &A can be about. I think that that's where
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  we follow up. But anybody that wants to join
• 2:15:03
  us. I'm gonna work on, I'll put out an announcement
• 2:15:05
  and give you guys a link to come to it, whether
• 2:15:07
  it's gonna be on a Zoom call if you wanna join
• 2:15:09
  us or if it's a live on YouTube or whatever.
• 2:15:11
  I've never done it, so I'm gonna have to learn
• 2:15:13
  it. But I'll put it out on Patreon for you guys
• 2:15:15
  to see. And then if you guys wanna join us, you
• 2:15:18
  can and we can talk about it. We'll have a little
• 2:15:20
  bit of a follow -up. We're gonna try it for this
• 2:15:22
  Thursday at 6 p .m. So if you guys are, if it's
• 2:15:24
  after work and you can join us, please do and
• 2:15:27
  please get involved in the communication. And
• 2:15:29
  we hope you enjoyed it and I'll announce along
• 2:15:32
  with Elaine today that our next book of study
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  is going to be the Song of Songs, the Song of
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  Solomon. And I've, I had Cherry Lewis actually.
• 2:15:44
  Yeah, Cherry Lewis came down. She's down from
• 2:15:48
  Maine visiting family. And she came to my house
• 2:15:50
  last night and we were visiting with her and
• 2:15:53
  her husband Rodney. She said that she was so
• 2:15:58
  disappointed whenever we extended it a week before
• 2:16:00
  we were going to release it because she's all
• 2:16:02
  caught up and she wanted to watch it. And so
• 2:16:04
  I told her I told her last night what we were
• 2:16:06
  going to do. She got the early edition because
• 2:16:08
  she came to the house. But she said that this
• 2:16:12
  study meant so much to her during this whole
• 2:16:14
  time that she's been up there in Maine doing
• 2:16:15
  her thing. Right. And so I just I believe that
• 2:16:19
  the Lord put this study together for a purpose
• 2:16:21
  that he had in mind. I benefited from it, I hope
• 2:16:25
  all of you have. We both have, haven't we? I
• 2:16:27
  mean, just discuss. It literally is, you forget
• 2:16:30
  people are listening. Yeah, that happens all
• 2:16:32
  the time, yeah. It's like parents are listening
• 2:16:33
  and a good talk about the scriptures. Yeah, sometimes
• 2:16:36
  whenever Elaine and I get on the phone, like
• 2:16:38
  we talk outside of these recordings and we'll
• 2:16:40
  talk for an hour. Yeah, we do, yeah. It goes
• 2:16:42
  by so quick. It could go on, but there's only,
• 2:16:45
  there's other things that need to be done. And
• 2:16:47
  that's why. And I'm so glad that you said that.
• 2:16:50
  Cause I have to go because it is eight 19 here.
• 2:16:52
  I'm already late. I've got to get to work. Um,
• 2:16:55
  but guys, thanks for watching and being with
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  us all this time. I hope that this study has,
• 2:17:00
  has brought up even more questions for you or
• 2:17:02
  made you dig in deeper. Yeah. And that's what
• 2:17:05
  it's, that's what it's designed to do, isn't
• 2:17:06
  it? To make you think more and go and do your
• 2:17:08
  own thing and have a little look and, and let
• 2:17:10
  you say on six o 'clock. on Thursday hopefully
• 2:17:13
  people will join and bring out their thoughts
• 2:17:17
  maybe that they've seen or you know what do you
• 2:17:18
  think about that have you got any thoughts about
• 2:17:20
  this because that's what it's about really it's
• 2:17:22
  again it's a collective you know it's we're not
• 2:17:25
  a corporate we're not corporate we're collective
• 2:17:28
  we are the church of god we are children and
• 2:17:33
  that's what we do we discuss spiritual things
• 2:17:36
  and get a huge amount of enjoyment from them
• 2:17:38
  that's it thank you guys so much for being with
• 2:17:41
  us all this time and yeah thank you tony there's
• 2:17:45
  two hours yeah tony there's two hours and 20
• 2:17:47
  minutes of stuff that we talked about i don't
• 2:17:49
  know how many songs you're gonna get out of that
• 2:17:51
  but thank you there'll be a big book won't there
• 2:17:55
  yeah Absolutely. Thanks to everybody who's who's
• 2:17:58
  been here with us. We love you very much. God
• 2:18:00
  bless you. Grace and peace to all of you. And
• 2:18:04
  if you can join us Thursday, keep an eye on Patreon.
• 2:18:07
  I'll give you guys some notifications tomorrow
• 2:18:10
  or Tuesday or Wednesday. I'll give you something.
• 2:18:13
  OK, so that we can all get together and we can
• 2:18:16
  talk about it. All right. So lots of love. I
• 2:18:18
  can't do it to about seven or something. You
• 2:18:20
  know, seven's easier. I'll see up to one in the
• 2:18:23
  morning. I wouldn't mind. She's such a she's
• 2:18:25
  such a trooper. I am, yes. All right. Well, God
• 2:18:28
  bless everybody. Peace be to you. See you later.
• 2:18:30
  Bye. God bless. Speak soon. Bye, y 'all. Bye,
• 2:18:34
  y 'all. You come back now here. Please. Yeah,
• 2:18:39
  please, please, please.