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Chuck & Buck 11-12 Hour 1: Today's Managers & Coaches, Battle of the McCoaches & CFP rankings week 2. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Some time. Good morning, class leads and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: Inducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high
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  Speaker 1: school basketball stand What the hell.
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  Speaker 3: Does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Don't jumped any conclusions. No, not a god, You've got
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  Speaker 2: to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
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  Speaker 3: openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's been a noticeable spike here your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champion.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan, brought to you by to Lada Casino Resort
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  Speaker 1: and quilsee the Creek Draftking sports book where the action
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  Speaker 1: never stopped there you go.
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  Speaker 5: Well, good Wednesday morning to you.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome into the radio show that people call Chuck and
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  Speaker 2: Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: KJR FM. The good people, the good people of Seattle
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  Speaker 2: and beyond. They call it Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
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  Speaker 2: so you can't stop them from doing it. Really, my
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  Speaker 2: name is Chuck Powell. Bucky Jacobson is here, Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 2: as well. Happy hump Day to you all. That's right,
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  Speaker 2: we've made it to Wednesday here of this week, and
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  Speaker 2: hump Day is the day worth celebrating, worth getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for the biggest Seahawks game of the year, which is
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  Speaker 2: coming up this Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, and
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  Speaker 2: we certainly will spend a lot of time on it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not to start the show, but we will spend
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  Speaker 2: a devote a lot of time to it. Here on
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  Speaker 2: today's program. Let's check the health and wealth of the
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  Speaker 2: members of the program. How's your knee better? Better?
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  Speaker 3: Still gimping around a little bit. I guess it's part
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  Speaker 3: of the process. Talk to the folks over there at
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  Speaker 3: Pinnacle yesterday and there, yep, yeah, we shot you with
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  Speaker 3: a little more ozone. I think it's different than the
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  Speaker 3: thing that keeps some of the sun's bad rays out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it is nailed yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's correct.
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  Speaker 3: They grabbed some of that and shot at my knee.
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  Speaker 6: Well because already so they're like, well, we don't need
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  Speaker 6: this anymore because we're going to make a fake ozone.
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  Speaker 4: So let's figure out a use for the one we've got,
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  Speaker 4: and you.
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  Speaker 2: Should probably not use hairspray anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You probably please not aerosol.
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  Speaker 2: It'll deteriorate the shot your knee.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good thing is it's been a minute since I've
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  Speaker 3: used hairspray, so yeah, it's been a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well you spend around cows with gas though, because
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  Speaker 6: that can also.
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  Speaker 2: Be oh oh yeah cows. Yeah. Uh well, at least
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  Speaker 2: it's the ozone layer that was put into your knee,
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  Speaker 2: not the marine layer. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 2: do anything very heavy.
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  Speaker 3: Everything would be would fall short.
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  Speaker 2: Everything would bog down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in your life, but then I'd be on par
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of other people. I'd have something to
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  Speaker 3: complain about when it comes to marine.
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  Speaker 6: There, you reached moments where you thought you were going
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  Speaker 6: to hit peak excitement, but then right before it nothing. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're down. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing with medicine these days. But man, if they
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  Speaker 2: shot the atmosphere into your knee, no under, it hurts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, there's a lot to shoot in there.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like they may be shot too much in there.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot for you to take on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know as yes, it's so what doesn't
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  Speaker 3: kill you makes you stronger, So I'm hoping it makes
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  Speaker 3: me stronger.
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  Speaker 2: You're not any normal person.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not exactly, not your run of the mill.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So keep it coming, keep on your
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  Speaker 2: keep it coming, ozone.
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  Speaker 4: Keep on keeping on.
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  Speaker 2: Can't bring our guy down no matter how hard you
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  Speaker 2: uh well, astulely. Both your knees are all right, feeling.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're both there. They're both ozone free. And I
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  Speaker 4: did not one.
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  Speaker 6: No. I double checked too, because when I hopped out
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  Speaker 6: of bed this morning and I was like, wait a minute, why.
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  Speaker 2: Did I put my pants on one leg at a time? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, are they both there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Few they are, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know about you, but I am one
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  Speaker 2: of those that refuses to put my pants on one
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  Speaker 2: leg at a time, So I jump into them just
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  Speaker 2: so people can't say.
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  Speaker 3: That I do. Yeah, yeah, that you're not like everyone exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm better than that.
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  Speaker 3: I right now barely put my pants on. That's another story.
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  Speaker 4: And are they shorts?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Now, I kind of want to know what that story.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have somebody else that puts your pants on
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's just right now. Because my knee doesn't bend, gotch,
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  Speaker 3: it's very hard to get them on. Okay, so I
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  Speaker 3: have to like lassle it around my left. You have
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  Speaker 3: a Belgian mallin wall. They're very smart. You're probably a
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  Speaker 3: good teacher how to put your pants on?
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  Speaker 2: Pants on?
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  Speaker 3: Great?
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  Speaker 4: I try to teach my dog.
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  Speaker 6: You'd just go stand on the pants and roll around
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  Speaker 6: and make me scratch his belly.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, good morning to you. Welcome into our silliness.
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  Speaker 2: It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you here on
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  Speaker 2: this Wednesday. And yes, I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: have Seahawks on the brain, and we're gonna talk a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Seahawks football today, get ready for the biggest
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  Speaker 2: game of the year on a hump day to date anyway,
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  Speaker 2: But I think we haven't talked. We haven't led with
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  Speaker 2: baseball in a while since you know what happened. And
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe this is worth leading with because there's
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  Speaker 2: a topic here that I've been trying to get into
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  Speaker 2: with Bucky and we just haven't had time to do it.
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  Speaker 2: We've rushed through it a couple of times. But I
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  Speaker 2: do believe that there's a topic here that yesterday's news
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  Speaker 2: will lead us into. But let us start with yesterday's news.
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  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson did not win American League Manager of the
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  Speaker 2: Year last night. He ended up finishing third in the voting.
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  Speaker 2: Steven Vote won the vote and for the second year
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  Speaker 2: in a row, and then second place went to John
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  Speaker 2: Schneider and Dan finished third. And I think that I
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  Speaker 2: think I think Dan, deep in his heart, kind of likes.
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  Speaker 5: That that's that's good.
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  Speaker 2: My first year as a manager, and I finished third
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  Speaker 2: manager of the year voting, So I think that that's
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  Speaker 2: an accomplishment in and of itself. I didn't expect him
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  Speaker 2: to win the award. I don't think any of us
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  Speaker 2: expected him to win the award, But not bad for
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  Speaker 2: your first time out third place finish. At least those
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  Speaker 2: nationally that write about baseball for a living are recognizing
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  Speaker 2: that you did some good things this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it was about where
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  Speaker 3: it probably should be. Where I think there was what
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  Speaker 3: five folks that ended up getting votes. Obviously there was
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  Speaker 3: only the three that were in the finals, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that Dan probably deserved to be third. Where I
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  Speaker 3: mean I was thinking more so Schneider. But I have
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  Speaker 3: a hard time not putting personal what I've seen, and
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  Speaker 3: I've seen more. I saw more of the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 3: It was in the postseason. I know that's after the fact,
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  Speaker 3: but the fact that they had more games. I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking that's where the voters would land, they had won
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  Speaker 3: more regular season games. But then you try to put
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  Speaker 3: all the other stuff into the mix that they're probably
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  Speaker 3: thinking about or should be thinking about, which what'd you
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  Speaker 3: do and what you go through and all of the
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  Speaker 3: stuff that vote went through from you know, losing your
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  Speaker 3: closer and they traded bieber away when he was getting
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  Speaker 3: ready to be healthy to the Toronto Blue Jays, and
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  Speaker 3: then the comeback that they had at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the year to come up and sniper their division I
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  Speaker 3: think was impressive and so I mean, very deserving. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have been mad if anybody had wonted, right, It's
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  Speaker 3: not like no, our guy was clear cut the guy
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  Speaker 3: that should have won, period, Like I think about another award,
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  Speaker 3: but I do think that it was kudos to him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: first year as a full time manager, and you did
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  Speaker 3: some good things and it was recognized.
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  Speaker 2: It really is, and I think it needs to be
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, it really is an exercise, and you brought
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  Speaker 2: this up yesterday. I think it's a great point is
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  Speaker 2: that I probably am holding. I mean, if anybody thought, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle's going to back Seattle, right. I didn't give Dan
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  Speaker 2: Wilson very high grades this year, not for his ex
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  Speaker 2: as and O's, but I think I went out of
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  Speaker 2: my way to say how valuable he is in many
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  Speaker 2: other areas as a manager to this baseball team, which
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into here in a moment. But
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't have him winning. I wouldn't even have
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  Speaker 2: named him Top three, frankly, but I did watch so
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  Speaker 2: much more on almost every decision that Dan Wilson made,
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  Speaker 2: and so maybe where Bucky saw the overexposure, saw all
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  Speaker 2: the good things in Dan and never got to see
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  Speaker 2: them in the other candidates, I might have saw more
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  Speaker 2: failures that Dan from Dan's perspective, and maybe I held
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  Speaker 2: that against him. So really it does come down to this.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it's it's baseball riders from across your league
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  Speaker 2: who see you for a handful of games, and what
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  Speaker 2: the award Manager of the Year comes down to is
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  Speaker 2: who they believe as a collective got the most out
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  Speaker 2: of their team based off of the talent that they
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  Speaker 2: were given by management and ownership, and then hurdles they
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  Speaker 2: overcame during the course of the year to achieve whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is that they achieved. And so I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people saw the Seattle Mariners as being a
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  Speaker 2: good team going into the year with a chance at
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  Speaker 2: winning the division. The fact that they won the division,
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  Speaker 2: I think nationally, Dan Wilson got some credit for that,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe a little bit of credit that he didn't
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  Speaker 2: quite deserve, because I don't think that they overachieved as
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  Speaker 2: a baseball team under his guidance this year, where I
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  Speaker 2: think maybe Toronto did. I think maybe Alex Cora and
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  Speaker 2: Steven Vote overcame a lot of hurdles that maybe Dan
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  Speaker 2: didn't have to overcome. And I think that that's why
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  Speaker 2: I would probably personally lean toward those guys, even though
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the manage nearly as much as what
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  Speaker 2: I did Dan Wilson this year. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: that's what the national collective is telling you is that
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  Speaker 2: here's Steven Vote, who operates with a much smaller payroll
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  Speaker 2: than the other winners in Major League Baseball. He overcame
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  Speaker 2: obstacles like a gambling scandal and everything else. This year,
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  Speaker 2: he dragged his team out of the depths of despair
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  Speaker 2: and rallied to chase down the Detroit Tigers and win
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  Speaker 2: the division. Again. He gets my vote. Now, there was
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  Speaker 2: also part of that is his team couldn't score a
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  Speaker 2: run for a month and a half. There's a reason
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  Speaker 2: why they dug a hole for themselves. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just because Emmanuel Classe likes to throw pitches, and I
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: mean throw pitches in another sense. And also the Tigers
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  Speaker 2: did all of them a lot of favors by crumbling
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  Speaker 2: and falling apart themselves, which Cleveland had nothing to do with.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't have a problem with him winning the award.
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  Speaker 2: I do recognize the hurdles that he overcame, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that he is an excellent young manager and he's
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  Speaker 2: only forty one and he's already won Ashley back to
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  Speaker 2: back Manager of the Year wars.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely is deserving.
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  Speaker 6: I did hear an argument though today that was like, well,
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  Speaker 6: could a manager or should somebody win Manager of the
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  Speaker 6: Year twice in a row, because when you think about that,
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  Speaker 6: you did enough to win it last year. That means
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  Speaker 6: you've got a pretty good situation going now right where
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  Speaker 6: your season's leaving on because you just went Manager of
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  Speaker 6: the Year. So you guys are in a good situation.
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  Speaker 6: Then you come back, well, now if you do it
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  Speaker 6: all over again, were you really worthy of Manager.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Year?
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  Speaker 6: Which I could understand that argument just looking at it,
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  Speaker 6: but looking at his situation and as you mentioned, the
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  Speaker 6: things he actually had to go through, it wasn't like
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  Speaker 6: he just started off with the same team he had
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  Speaker 6: last year and went through the season and had success.
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  Speaker 2: I actually like that about what the vote went. That
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  Speaker 2: voters didn't use that against Steven vote. I think that
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  Speaker 2: happens far too frequently. I don't think I mean, Phil
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  Speaker 2: Jackson hardly ever got recognized as in the postseason awards
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  Speaker 2: because you've got Michael Jordan. That's not now. Phil Jackson
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  Speaker 2: was masterful and should have won five, six, seven Coach
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  Speaker 2: of the Year awards. Joe Tory should have won Manager
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  Speaker 2: of the Year awards. I mean he had to manage
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  Speaker 2: a Rod and Jeter and all of these huge personalities
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  Speaker 2: in one year after year. I think I think that
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  Speaker 2: sometimes these voters put hurdles in front of them, like like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they have too much going for them, or he won
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  Speaker 2: it last year, we got to go with somebody else
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  Speaker 2: this year. I wish they wouldn't do that. So that
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  Speaker 2: was actually the one thing that I liked about the
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  Speaker 2: vote last night. Both American League and National League Managers
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  Speaker 2: of the Year repeated last night, and I like that
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  Speaker 2: the voters didn't let get in the way. I voted
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  Speaker 2: for him last year, I can't possibly vote for him
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  Speaker 2: this year. No, do you believe he was the best manager?
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe he got the most out of his team?
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  Speaker 2: And if you think it's the same damn guy, then
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  Speaker 2: vote for the same damn guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can see that. To me, it'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, I mean, the full extent of that where
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  Speaker 3: Ashley's talking about, would be like, what would you feel
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  Speaker 3: like if they gave Dave Roberts the Manager of the
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  Speaker 3: Year considering how stacked that team is, right, It'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: come on right? Yeah, So that's the full extent or
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  Speaker 3: the extreme on that side. On the other side, it's
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  Speaker 3: I think part of what goes into it when you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about what do they have and what did he do?
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  Speaker 3: What did he make with what he had? I think
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  Speaker 3: part of that goes into Okay, well, how much money
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  Speaker 3: do they spend?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Where are they at when it comes to that. That's
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  Speaker 3: where if I do think of the Mariners, where I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they overachieved necessarily. I don't necessarily think they
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  Speaker 3: underachieved simply because if you look at what achieved, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they achieved. They they did what I thought that they
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  Speaker 3: were going to do. I mean, maybe they were a
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  Speaker 3: few games short of whatever my prediction was, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty optimistic when it comes to picking. I think ninety
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  Speaker 3: four wins or something that I said for them, but
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  Speaker 3: they're right there and yet to me, it's like, when
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  Speaker 3: you look at this roster, I don't think of it
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  Speaker 3: as as low as what the actual pay is, simply
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  Speaker 3: because you have a bunch of guys pitching staff in particular,
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  Speaker 3: that are pitching like twenty million dollars a year, thirty
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  Speaker 3: forty million dollars a year pitchers, and yet they're not
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  Speaker 3: making that money yet, you know. So to me, that's
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  Speaker 3: us knowing the roster. Whereas you know when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to Cleveland, and Cleveland's down there, I mean, they're way
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  Speaker 3: towards the bottom of what they spend on their roster
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  Speaker 3: and yet to go out there and find a way
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  Speaker 3: after you dug yourself a hole, you dug yourself the hole.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you didn't play well, and Detroit played exceptionally well,
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  Speaker 3: but when they crumbled down the stretch, you did everything
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  Speaker 3: you needed to do at that point in time. And
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  Speaker 3: that's getting hot at the right time. Like we talked
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  Speaker 3: about a little bit yesterday in regards to the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's something that the manager has about that
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  Speaker 3: has to do with that. Like, hey, guys, look how
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  Speaker 3: far behind we are right now, fifteen games or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it was. We're fifteen games back of these guys. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Let's go win today and make it fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go win today and make it thirteen and just
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  Speaker 3: take care of your own business. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: he's I mean, to be two years into your managing
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  Speaker 3: career and you've been the manager year twice, there's something
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  Speaker 3: to that. I mean, he's good at what he does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I just to clarify that, Dave Roberts,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they overachieved. I think they underachieved during
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: the regular season. A roster that good and you didn't
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  Speaker 2: win one hundred and ten games.
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  Speaker 4: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they didn't even get a bye in the
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  Speaker 2: first round for goodness sake. So no Dave Roberts. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm my point about that is, I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: get eliminated just because people think you have the best talent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the year Phil Jackson and the Bulls went
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: what seventy three and nine or whatever, Yeah, maybe he
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: did some good things that and shouldn't be eliminated from
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  Speaker 2: the conversation. Well, we've done it to ourselves again. We've
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  Speaker 2: spent fifteen minutes on this topic. It ran out of
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: the times that I wanted to discuss this other topic
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: that I've been dying to talk about. And so I'll
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: just say briefly that I think what you are seeing
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: because we've had a really curious manager hiring cycle in
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. Some guys that weren't on the radar period.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: A college coach with zero professional coaching experience has been
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: hired a relief pitcher. I mean, there's not a manager
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball right now who was a major
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: league pitcher until Craig Stammon got hired by the Padres,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: and he wasn't even a start. Can you imagine as
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: weird as as relief pitchers are handing over the reins
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: to your team to a relief pitcher and recently retired
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: like played last year. Can you imagine thinking that a
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: relief pitcher, one year removed from the is ready to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: be a manager of a Major League Baseball team.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: He just has must be, must have been that leader
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: in the clubhouse, which usually it's not a relief pitcher.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Usually a relief pitcher.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's you know, you can come in
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: all different walks and shapes and sizes. It typically is
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: a guy like catcher. There's a reason why. Yeah, probably
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: five or six of the guys that were up for
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the Manager of the Year were former catchers, as they
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: just they tend to gravitate towards that the general I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: run this thing. Relief pitchers typically don't. They might be
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: the gesture over in the corner.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: What I thought of as the guys that play grab
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: ass in the bullpen the whole game and don't even
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: pay attention until it's their time to stretch, right, you know.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: And so for I mean, it's it's been a bizarre
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball managerial cycle and The only thing that
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I can take from it that tries to explain it
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: is I think. I mean, we see trends all the time,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: hiring trends, particularly owners, general managers. They see something that's
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: working and they want to copy that. And I think
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: what you are seeing right now in Major League Baseball,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and maybe we're seeing it and in the NFL, maybe
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: we're seeing it at the college level. Maybe it's the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: reason Brian Dayball and his old school I yell at
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: my quarterback tactics just expired this week in the middle
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: of the season. And I think it's not that today's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: young players. I don't want to call them soft. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: don't think they respond. And maybe this is the right
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: way to go. Maybe this is evolution. Maybe we were
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: silly for liking that Lou Holtz grabbed face masks or
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: ed chef made you box your your third baseman before practice.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe that was stupid and we've held on
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: to that stuff for way too long, thinking that's how
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you get the most out of young people. You've got
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to be authoritative. Maybe this is the right way to go.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And it's not that Dan Wilson or Steven vote coddle
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: players or are soft with players or are too gentle
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: with players. But I do believe today's young athlete does
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: respond to hard tactics, and so that's why Kevin cites
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: her and we always do his voice in that soft,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: loving way that he speaks to everyone. Probably worked really
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: well with this team. Maybe he didn't have revolutionary ideas
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: for hitting. Maybe he just had a way to approach
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: players that they responded well to, and so they absorbed
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: more of what he was teaching them. I think that's
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: where we're at right now. I don't think Brian Kelly
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: works right now in college football that hard disciplinarian that
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: yells at players on the field and then trashes them
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: in post game press conferences. Dan Wilson is a shining
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: example of you can be a little old school, but
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you better figure out how to communicate with young athletes today,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: young men today who really don't respond to that hard
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: hand tactic that you and I grew up with.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're essentially if you're a coach kind
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: of a doctor, and if any doctor goes out there
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and just treats every patient exactly the same, I go, oh,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: you have a cold, then here's something that cures cancer,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: you know, No, you have to treat them differently. And
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I think that that's one thing the old school. If
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: there was a mistake with old school, and I think
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: there's something about toughening people up, because then when the
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: pressure is the there's the most pressure, the toughness will
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: come up, it'll rise to the surface. That said, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: can't nowadays, you most certainly can't just be all old
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: school hard knows, you know. But at the same time,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's certain people that will respond better to
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: being coach hard. And there most certainly is a lot
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: of players now that want to be you know, delivered
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: to them in a soft way.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you got and you've got to play to the majority. Now, yeah, yeah,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you gant it just because you got one or two
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: guys that want to be coached hard. You can't get
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a coach who coaches hard. Hopefully he's able to do
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that too.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Coach most coach those that are soft softly you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and or you know, I mean, just give it to
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: him in a softer way. And then when there's somebody
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: that you know, they respond with the light of fire
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: under that's you should be able to do that as well.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'll say this about Dan Wilson. Even though I didn't
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: agree with a lot of his ex'es and o's this year,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I know that he excels in that area. I know
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that he excels in that area. And that's why you
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: get to the end of a season where everybody's bashing
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the manager for the decision that they feel cost them
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the World Series, and Jerry Depoto speaks to the press
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and says he's our guy, and you don't understand how
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: much he's loved in that locker room. He's not going anywhere.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: That's why, because Dan Wilson has that part of managing
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty five down cold. All right,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: let's find out what's on tap, Chuck and buy what's
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: on TEP.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: What's on tep?
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: All right, Sally?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: On award tonight, Derek Scouobel is expected to win it
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: on the American League side, maybe a little more interesting
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: on the n L side, And of course we're all
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: building up to Thursday to find out finally if cal
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Rawley's going to win the American League MVP over Aaron Judge. Also,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Andy McKay, by the way, left the organization for the Mariners.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: He's kind of their psychology development guy over there, assistant
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: general manager, and apparently Cleveland really liked what he was
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: doing with the Mariners and lured him away. I don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: know any more about this other than Andy McKay's not
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: going to be around anymore. Columbus two to one winners
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: over Cracking in a shootout, Crack and lose another shootout,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: another overtime game. Yeah, they're getting points regularly, but two
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: points are better. They will play Thursday at home against
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Winnipeg Alciniski'll join us today at nine to thirty. College
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: basketball Coogs Huskies will meet Friday night and Pullman. Last night,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the Zags a very impressive win, nineteenth ranked over number
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: twenty three Creighton. Ninety to sixty three was the final score.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: The Zags ran him out of the gym. College football
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Huskies will host Perdue this Saturday. Cam Cleveland will join
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: us as he does every Wednesday, at eight o'clock. We'll
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: get his thoughts on Jed Fish and many other things.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: College football playoff rankings came out last night. We'll discuss
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: it thoroughly coming up here at six forty five. No
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: time to get into the details right now, but yes,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: new rankings are out and there was some shakeup, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of course it is hump day, and so we start
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: really focusing on the next Seahawks opponent, the Rams, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, we will discuss, speaking
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: of coaches, this fascinating coaching matchup McDonald versus McVeigh. Oh,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be McGray. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Bet Man, this is a different cat right here. This
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: thing is huge. I mean for middle of the season
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and we're still in the middle portion of the season.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: To have this big of a game, this hyped of
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a game. We talked a little bit yesterday about I
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: hope that the Seahawks aren't peaking too soon in the season,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: but this is gonna be like heak regular season, you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: euphoria when it comes to getting ready for a game.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: This is a monster, a monster taking on the Rams
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: on Sunday.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, both are playing well, both have good records.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You have a tight division right where there's basically three
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: out of the four teams are still in it. For
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: the most part. You can't really count out anybody because
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: considering how many games are left. But I think you
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: can pretty much count Arizona out and so yeah, you're
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: sitting there like, okay, not very often in what are
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: we week eleven, week twelve, week eleven, I get it
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: mixed up because college whatever.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: But well as we're seven to twos and we had
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to buy so a week.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: So week eleven. Yeah, so it's uh, you know, at
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: this point in the season, you don't typically have a
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: game where you're like, boy, the difference between winning it
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: and losing it is so drastic, right, I mean now
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it's still is going to be You're still gonna be
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: within one game if you lose, and vice a versa.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: But it's it's not the end of the world. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it feels big. It feels like they're a whole heck
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: of a lot more hanging in the balance than just
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: your typical run of the mill regular season game, even
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the run of the mill regular season you know, divisional game.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the division is on the line
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this Sunday. It's just, man, you just in terms of
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a regular season matchup, a divisional matchup. I mean, these
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: feel like two runaway trains right now when it comes
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to momentum or in this case mcmentum with McDonald versus
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: McVeigh even. I mean to think about how good we're
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: going and they're going just as well. Yeah, think about
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: how good we're going right now here in Seattle and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the Rams are like, well, they're going just as well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So I don't know what you're bragging about. We got
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: same record. We're dominating teams as of late. So that's
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: even the MC quarterbacks. I mean, it's Stafford versus Donald.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, Stafford and Sam Darnald are getting MVP consideration
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: halfway through the year. Stafford's considered the favorite in a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: lot of circles, with Sam right there nipping at his heels.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: The mcdefense both top five. Both are top five, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the Rams defense is better than our defense. Statistically, we're fifth,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: their second. They allow only seventeen points per game. So
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: isn't it interesting that most people are expecting a high
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: scoring game on Sunday when you have two top five
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: defenses in the National Football League. But there's a reason
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: for it because both mcoffenses are both top five. That's right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: We're third thirty and a half points per game. Who
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: saw that coming? The Rams are fifth twenty eight points
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: per game. And I think it all comes down to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the mc coaches. I mean, this is McVeigh versus McDonald.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: This is the biggest storyline. I think this is the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: absolute headline topic heading into this week. And it goes
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: back to when Mike McDonald was hired, and Hugh Millen's
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: analysis immediately was, we are in a division with arguably
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: two of the best offensive minds, if not the best
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: offensive mines in the game right now, and Shanahan and McVeigh.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So if you're John Schneider and you're moving on from
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, what's your move? Do you try to get
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson or the next offensive mine that can hang
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: with these two Because by the way, they're both very
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: young still, especially McVeigh mcveigh's thirty nine, McDonald's thirty eight.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Think about how young Mike McDonald is and new to
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: this job, and Sean McVay feels like he's been around forever.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: He's only a year older. So they're not going anywhere
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: unless they just decide I have enough money and it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: too much stress, I'm gonna go raise children and have
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: an ant farm. I don't see that coming. And so
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere anytime soon. And so Hugh talked
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: about like this. Mike McDonald hire is John Schneider saying,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: if I got to go up against two offensive geniuses
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: four times every single season, then I want the ultimate
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: counter chess move. Give me the next defensive genius. And
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: he hired Mike McDonald, and here we go first year.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That year. You know, Mike McDonald's just getting used to
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: being a head coach. Now he's really sinking his teeth
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the end of the position. And believe me, Sean McVay
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and Kyle Shanahan know they've got their work cut out for.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Them when they face Mike McDonald. Yeah, the idea of
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: these two teams, you're right. I mean, I think beginning
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: of the season, right, if we didn't have we don't
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: have a crystal ball. If you just think about McVeigh,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: he's known for the offensive genius that he is, right,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: he's known for the fact that he does things that
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: seem really hard to figure out, and even though people
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: maybe start to figure out some of his tendencies, he
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: keeps coming up with ways to keep it new, keep
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: it fresh, keep being right there. As far as winning
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the division and doing some damage in the playoffs, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: yet to some degree, they're the stamp right now on
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: them is their defense, Like you said that, like, right now,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: we're happy about our defense. I think the give up
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: nineteen points a game or something like that. They give
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: up seventeen points of games. And some of that is okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: who have you played? But it were far enough into
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: the season that it's enough of a sample size. And
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: on the flip side of it, you think about, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks and McDonald you're like, pooh, this defense something.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: And yet the biggest surprise or the thing that is
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the most pleasant around here. Yeah, the defense is amazing,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: but boy, this offense. Look at how potent this offense
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: can be. And and they so. To me, it's there's storylines,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: the obvious storylines, and then really the further you dig
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: into it, there there's even more intriguing storylines.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Oh it's Mike fascinating.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And everybody is putting out you know, their NFL
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: power rankings, and we were number one last week.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Well now they've got the Rams number one and us
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: number two.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: There. Oh that's mc trash talk. That is y that
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: is and you know what I think is the most
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: encouraging thing about this when and trying to figure out
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: because this has been such a fun season. The team
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: seems to be on a roll. We're all convinced that
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: John Schneider just had a grand Slam, not just a
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: home run, but a grand slam with his head coaching
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: higher controversially as it was, I mean, because it didn't
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: look like Pete Carroll was ready to be fired, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: yet he made the move and brings in young Mike
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: McDonald And now it just doesn't it doesn't look like
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it could have made a better choice at this point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: But think about what you said about the Rams. Sean
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: mcvay's kind of become a full service head coach. Now
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: he's got enough skin in the game. He's won a
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: super Bowl championship. I mean, it really does feel like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: at age thirty nine, he's got it all figured out.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're going against a titan in this National
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Football League. We might be facing the best head coach
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: in the game right now in Sean McVay. If not
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Andy Reid, it's probably Sean McVay. But doesn't it make
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: sense that if you are an offensive genius, that you
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: really have to really understand defense too. Yeah, doesn't that
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: make sense? I Bill Belichick was a defensive genius. But
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: when the Patriots were going well, I mean he was
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: really hands on with the offense. He flipped over to
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the other side and kind of unlocked their offense as well.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: And So for Sean mcgay to get to the point
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: at age thirty nine, I mean, how many how many years?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Ten years already when was he hired? Fourteen Doogie howser basically,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So he's now to the point where it's like, there's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: really not a flaw in his game. I think that
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: he's more hands on with personnel decisions all of that stuff,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and he's really got it down. But Mike McDonald, here
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: he is in his second year and after John Schneider
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: fumbled around with a few of the personnel decisions that
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: he was finally midway through the season last year brave
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: enough to say this isn't working. Get me this kind
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of guy. And now here you are on the offensive
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: side of the ball one year with Ryan Grubb, he's
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: not working. Get me this kind of guy. For Mike
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: McDonald to already be aware enough on both both sides
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: of the ball of what he needs to have the
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: team that he wants, my goodness, I mean Sean McVay
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: got there within five six seven years, even though he'd
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, it took him like five six
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: seven years to be a full service head coach. Do
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: we really have a guy that's figured it out in
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a year and a half, like everything about the organization?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Do we have that advanced of a head coach? Oh,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: it's exciting, It is mic exciting, exciting, Yeah, exciting. Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: The I mean the idea of running a roster as
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: big as an NFL roster and all of the things
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: that go into it, right, I mean, the lights aren't
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: brighter for any type of person at the helm of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: any team. Right, we're just talking about the manager of
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the year. There's not even he pales in comparison to
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: what you have to do, the things you have to
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: have your fingerprints on. And yet I think that's a
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: perfect point that you just made of If you're going
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to be an offensive mastermind, you better damn well understand
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: everything about defenses. Now, you maybe don't wake up in
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: the middle of the night with some defensive play that
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: you scribble on a scratch pad on your night stand
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: like a defensive minded guy, and vice versa.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I bet you he does now, yeah, and yet that that's.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: One of those to think that Mike McDonald doesn't understand
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: exactly what offenses in today's game are trying to do.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: How are they're trying to, you know, pass, and then
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: when they're going to be what their tendencies are as
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: far as just across the board, not individual teams, but
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: across the board now is third and six. Of course
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: that's a passing, but does this team do that? Do
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: they pass short and then get yards after gets? All
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: of that stuff goes into making you somebody that could
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: be called a mastermind or a defensive gurus is being
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: able to understand the other side. So I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's only three coaches that have
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  Speaker 3: been in their spots longer than McVeigh has. Tomlin, Andy
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  Speaker 3: Reid and John Harbaugh are the only three I think
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  Speaker 3: that have been in their spots longer than he has.
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  Speaker 3: And he's thirty nine. Yeah, but I mean it's I
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  Speaker 3: think for sure that he figured it out and now
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's a well rounded guy that
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  Speaker 3: has his fingerprints all over that organization and has a
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl to show for it, And yet it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: feel like our coach is any different as far as
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  Speaker 3: the trajectory that he's possibly going to go on.
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  Speaker 2: Get your mc popcorn, McReady. I mean it's going down
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Coming up next College football Playoff Rankings, Week
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  Speaker 2: number two, there's been a shakeup. Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 2: point three kJ r f M all right, headlines coming
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  Speaker 2: up at the top of the hour. Greg Bell will
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  Speaker 2: join us as well. It is hum day as we
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: really sink our teeth into the Seahawks Rams game. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: think we've already done it. I got Rams stuck between
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  Speaker 2: my teeth right now. Anybody got a tooth pick? He
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: just did your rest run out. I usually have one
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  Speaker 2: on hand. College Football Playoff rankings came out last night
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  Speaker 2: week number two, and not a huge shakeup, but there was.
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  Speaker 2: There were our three new teams that are in the
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  Speaker 2: top twelve. Ohio States number one, Indiana and Texas A
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  Speaker 2: and M are two and three. Even though the committee
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  Speaker 2: chair said afterwards that was a really lengthy discussion as
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  Speaker 2: to whether or not Texas A and M should jump
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  Speaker 2: Indiana after Indiana's very very very narrow victory against Penn
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  Speaker 2: State on Saturday, number four Alabama, they remained there Manda.
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  Speaker 2: They have an impressive resume. Number five is Georgia. Texas
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  Speaker 2: Tech jumped up all the way to number six from
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  Speaker 2: number eight, so the win over BYU, the committee saw
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  Speaker 2: enough to move Texas Tech not only past BYU, who
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  Speaker 2: they obviously supplanted, but also passed ole Miss as well,
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  Speaker 2: and so the Red Raiders are sitting there at number six.
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss falls to seven. Oregon and Notre Dame both
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  Speaker 2: jump up one spot to eight and nine. Texas is
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  Speaker 2: newly in. They were eleventh last week, but we're on
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  Speaker 2: the outside looking in because you have to have an
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  Speaker 2: ACC representative and you had to have a best of
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  Speaker 2: five representative. So Texas now is in as the number
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  Speaker 2: ten seed and they have a huge game this weekend
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  Speaker 2: against Georgia, and then it rounds out with eleven and twelve,
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  Speaker 2: eleven being Miami, which is interesting. They are the ACC
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  Speaker 2: representative right now with USF University of South Florida getting
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  Speaker 2: that NOD as the mid Major at number twelve, they
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  Speaker 2: moved them ahead of James Madison even though James Madison
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  Speaker 2: outranks them and the A people, so interesting little shake
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  Speaker 2: up there. I think there are several different items that
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  Speaker 2: are worth noting, but anything stand out to you.
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  Speaker 3: The lengthy discussion about A and M in Indiana. I
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  Speaker 3: suppose because of the Notre Dame win that Texas A
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  Speaker 3: and M had early that there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people are thinking, well, why would we schedule something that
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: is non conference if they don't feel like they're getting
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  Speaker 3: the same reward. I think, until you have all the
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: ingredients that are going to go into this bad boy,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you need to get worried about
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  Speaker 3: whether or not they respect it, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when all you have all the information, if they then
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  Speaker 3: still don't, or if if you were behind in Indiana
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  Speaker 3: that drops a game somewhere along the way, then you
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  Speaker 3: would have something. But at this point, it's not like
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  Speaker 3: your It's not like you're behind some chumps. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Indiana barely got by Penn State, but I think Penn
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  Speaker 3: State is still a test. I think that you're not
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  Speaker 3: going to go in and just walk over those guys,
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  Speaker 3: even though they kind of floundered a little bit before
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  Speaker 3: the firing.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing truer that can be said about this entire process.
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  Speaker 2: Then this is really just an update of what the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: panel is thinking, and the only thing that matters is
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  Speaker 2: the final committee vote when all the resumes are in
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  Speaker 2: and they can look through it with a mostly unbiased lens,
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  Speaker 2: even though they do admit that eye test does come
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  Speaker 2: into play and certainly there are some biased individuals in
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  Speaker 2: that room that you hopefully weed out by the time
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  Speaker 2: you get to the end of the process. I think
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  Speaker 2: the two most fascinating results though, are ten and eleven
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  Speaker 2: Texas to jump up to number ten. Their resume is,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, their schedule is so strong and they still
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  Speaker 2: have two monster games. They still have to play Texas
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  Speaker 2: A and M and Georgia. Yeah, so not only are
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  Speaker 2: they number ten, but there is a feeling, according to
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Heather Dnich, that they can lose one of those two
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  Speaker 2: games and still get in as a three loss team
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  Speaker 2: because of how difficult their schedule has been this year.
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  Speaker 2: The other one is Miami Miami right now. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they have to put somebody'll in that ACC spot at
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  Speaker 2: number eleven. Miami right now is seventh in the conference. Really,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: they are seventh in the ACC right now, and yet
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: they are the highest ranked ACC team. So they didn't go.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't put temporarily in that place holding eleventh spot.
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  Speaker 2: The team that right now is technically winning the conference.
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  Speaker 2: They just decided to go So if this is, in
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  Speaker 2: our opinion, the most complete resume of any team in
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  Speaker 2: the ACC, so why are we messing around with it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and shove them up. It's just a
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: temporary position anyway, to number eleven right now. I also
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: think they caved a little bit to the huge criticism
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  Speaker 2: of how big the gap was between Notre Dame and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Miami last week when Miami beat Notre Dame head to
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  Speaker 2: head and they each have two losses this year. I
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: do think Notre Dame has the better resume and should
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: be ahead of Miami, but there was a lot of
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: criticism about how much Notre Dame was ahead of Miami,
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  Speaker 2: and they think they tried to rectify that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit this week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that whole where you're going to have
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: a representative from all the conferences, and so really it's
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: like a ten team playoff. Unless one of these other
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: teams jumps into the ten, then obviously you might you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you might find Oregon that squeaks in there as an
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  Speaker 3: eleven if they were to drop a game or something
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  Speaker 3: like that. So it's interest to me how that whole
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: thing works out. And yet to me, it's it's almost like, Okay,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you know where they started after the first week, you
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: know where their head was at of what they thought
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  Speaker 3: about teams. It's not just their record, it's not just
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: their strength to schedule, it's also the eye test everything
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  Speaker 3: that they're taking into their little meeting and coming up
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  Speaker 3: with these what number to put beside these teams? It's
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: that and then okay, what happens from week to week
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: where they just kind of shuffle those things around a
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: little bit. And yet there's a lot of big games
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: coming down here, coming down the wire that's going to
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: shake the whole thing up.
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  Speaker 2: Huge games this week in the SEC alone, al excuse me,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Georgia takes on Texas and Alabama takes on Oklahoma. That
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: could be a playoff elimination game for the Sooners. All right,
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  Speaker 2: headlines next, Greg Bell as Well Sports Radio ninety three
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