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- 0:28S1: Delivering the truth daily.
- 0:30S4: All of my attempts to you know. Prop myself up
- 0:33S4: with achievement and good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that,
- 0:36S4: even if other people were.
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- 0:46S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios. This is Carl
- 0:50S1: and Crew. Does anyone else like the NFL draft? Come on.
- 0:55S2: I do like the NFL draft. I, uh, I was
- 0:59S2: less in it from the beginning this time, because usually
- 1:02S2: my team is picking in the top ten.
- 1:04S1: Because.
- 1:04S2: We've stunk us. Yeah, yeah. But this year we were 25,
- 1:08S2: so I got to wait a little while before I
- 1:10S2: tuned in.
- 1:10S6: Yeah. The fact that we, uh, we Chicago, we love
- 1:14S6: the bears. We is a funny thing, isn't it?
- 1:17S2: It's always we. I know people are like, you're not
- 1:20S2: on the team. Yes, I am. It's weird.
- 1:23S6: Yes, I am. Thank you very much.
- 1:27S7: We. Oh.
- 1:29S6: Oh my goodness. And you know, I gotta tell you,
- 1:32S6: I just flashback to when Lovie Smith had me come
- 1:36S6: in and do the chapel before a Monday Night Football game,
- 1:39S6: bears versus Detroit Lions. And I was I was praying, oh, God,
- 1:43S6: please let him win. Be a bummer to do a
- 1:46S6: chapel and lose. And they did. They won that Monday night.
- 1:49S6: We eked it out. I was I was with Pastor
- 1:52S6: Choco in the stands that night.
- 1:54S7: Oh, he went with me to pastor.
- 1:57S6: We gotta get Pastor Choco on here.
- 1:59S4: Oh, he's a Chicago favorite.
- 2:01S2: Yeah.
- 2:02S6: Oh my goodness. Where in the world is Pastor Choco?
- 2:06S2: Did he move? Yeah he.
- 2:07S6: Yeah. He's heading up a big, big ministry movement somewhere
- 2:12S6: outside of Chicagoland. Anyway, we were at that game and
- 2:15S6: it was a nail biter. But he goes, hey, we
- 2:17S6: got one. It was a great it was a great win.
- 2:20S6: But here's the thing that I noticed when I was
- 2:22S6: doing that chapel. First off, these are young guys and
- 2:27S6: we forget that little kids.
- 2:29S2: I mean.
- 2:29S6: Well, they.
- 2:30S7: Aren't little kids.
- 2:31S2: They are little. I mean, they're huge. They are. Yes.
- 2:34S2: They're gigantic. Uh, but like 21, 22 is where these
- 2:38S2: kids are at. They are kids.
- 2:40S4: Isn't it funny to hear young thunder?
- 2:41S7: Uh, yeah. It is. I wasn't gonna.
- 2:43S6: Say anything this time, but. Ali, thanks for noting that.
- 2:46S7: Well, I was gonna say thunder.
- 2:47S4: That's how you know you're getting. You're getting up.
- 2:49S7: There.
- 2:49S2: If I was in sports right now about me, they'd
- 2:52S2: be saying, I think we gotta get out of this contract.
- 2:54S2: He's on the wrong side of 30. So that's kind
- 2:57S2: of where I'm at if I was in sports. So yeah,
- 2:59S2: I can look at them and say, kids.
- 3:01S6: You know, it dawns on me too. One of the
- 3:03S6: tough things about that is because a lot of these
- 3:07S6: kids that got drafted last night, all they've known is
- 3:11S6: this from when they've been young.
- 3:13S7: Which.
- 3:13S6: By the way, is not a problem. No. Uh, I
- 3:16S6: think that's great to be focused like that. But when
- 3:19S6: your career ends, 3132 running backs are what, 3334 max
- 3:25S6: these days?
- 3:25S2: Yeah. Max. I mean, in all honesty, the average NFL
- 3:28S2: player spends two years in the NFL.
- 3:31S6: Is that what it is?
- 3:32S2: Yeah. Average NFL player spends two years. There's so many
- 3:34S2: of them. They they get cycled out fast and.
- 3:36S7: They.
- 3:36S6: Call them stat man. Everybody.
- 3:38S7: Yeah.
- 3:39S2: And, uh, and so thinking about that, you spend your
- 3:42S2: whole life training for something. Most of them only get
- 3:45S2: two years in it and then they're done. What are
- 3:48S2: you doing with the rest of your life?
- 3:50S7: Yeah.
- 3:52S6: But the stories last night were epic. Orville Reese was
- 3:56S6: one of the coolest. And I'm going to champion this
- 3:59S6: kid because not of Marvel, but because of his mentor,
- 4:03S6: Ted Ginn, senior head coach of Glenville High in Cleveland. Hey, Ohio,
- 4:09S6: you got a ball club there for high school.
- 4:12S2: Ted Ginn Senior is a great name for a football
- 4:14S2: head coach. I don't know what it feels like.
- 4:16S7: A.
- 4:16S4: Football name.
- 4:17S2: Yeah.
- 4:18S7: Oh yeah.
- 4:18S2: Good old coach Ginn.
- 4:20S7: Yeah.
- 4:21S6: Don't ever call him Ted or Teddy. No he's coach.
- 4:25S2: Coach again.
- 4:27S6: Yeah he was amazing. And Arvell Reese, I mean, Arvell
- 4:31S6: Reese went through some tough stuff. I don't know all
- 4:33S6: the backstory, but he was very forthright about how he's like, wow. Um,
- 4:40S6: I wouldn't have made it without coach. He literally saved
- 4:43S6: my life. I'm reading a direct quote here. He saved
- 4:46S6: my life. He literally saved my life. Yahoo sports is
- 4:50S6: Quoting him as saying, that's a big statement, isn't it?
- 4:54S6: When a coach reaches into you like that level.
- 4:56S4: Ali oh yeah. And you know, my husband, who's also
- 4:59S4: an athlete, he's a basketball player now, a basketball coach,
- 5:02S4: played professionally for just shy of 14 years. But he
- 5:06S4: looks at coaches who who had such a pivotal impact
- 5:10S4: in his life. You know, my husband lost his father
- 5:13S4: when he was young. And so it was coaches who
- 5:16S4: had really played that role of of helping speak life
- 5:20S4: into him and helping him learn habits of discipline. And,
- 5:24S4: you know, so he had a great high school coach,
- 5:27S4: a great yes, a great coach, Lindo coach Mark Lindo,
- 5:31S4: I'm going to shout him out because sometimes he listens
- 5:33S4: to the to he's part of the boom crew. He's
- 5:36S4: part of the boom crew. He listens sometimes. And he
- 5:38S4: was my husband's high school coach for a couple of
- 5:40S4: years and just he's just a great man.
- 5:42S6: And what did he do in particular to help Henry?
- 5:45S4: Just, you know, he pushed him. He believed in him.
- 5:47S4: And he just he modeled discipline. He helped instill some
- 5:51S4: of those habits, and he helped bring the best out
- 5:54S4: of him. And, you know, those great relationships, you don't
- 5:57S4: always see eye to eye. So, you know, my husband
- 5:59S4: had to wait to even though he probably had the
- 6:01S4: talent to like play a lot of minutes early, he
- 6:05S4: had to kind of, you know.
- 6:06S7: Wait it out.
- 6:07S4: He had to wait it out, you know, and so
- 6:09S4: he just, he had such a positive impact. And he,
- 6:11S4: he's still in his life today. And so the power
- 6:15S4: of a good coach. So thank you, coach Mark Lindo
- 6:18S4: for being that for my husband.
- 6:20S6: It's beautiful. You know what a coach does a coach
- 6:24S6: a good coach helps pry excuses from your cold hands
- 6:29S6: that are holding on to.
- 6:30S7: Oh yeah.
- 6:32S6: That's what a coach does. He's like, come on over here,
- 6:36S6: get over here. And he doesn't say it this way,
- 6:39S6: but this is what he's doing. Those excuses that you're
- 6:42S6: gripping on to, I'm going to pry them out of
- 6:45S6: your hands. That's what God does. And that's what we've
- 6:51S6: been tackling about all tackling all week long.
- 6:53S4: Yeah, I can't change because, I mean, think about all
- 6:57S4: of the things that we just going back to the
- 6:59S4: physical side. I mean you ever try to start running.
- 7:03S4: You're like, I can't. There is no way like I'm stopping.
- 7:06S4: I've already gone two blocks. My whole body hurts like
- 7:10S4: the I can't comes out so quickly. All of the limitations,
- 7:14S4: all of the things that scream, stop, don't do this.
- 7:19S4: Be comfortable. Let yourself rest. It's true physically and it's
- 7:23S4: true spiritually, I can't change.
- 7:27S7: Yeah.
- 7:29S6: So we've got a question or I should say, Ali's
- 7:32S6: got a question for you this morning.
- 7:34S4: You had some screaming excuses that kept you stuck spiritually.
- 7:39S4: I'm too addicted. I have too much of a dysfunctional family.
- 7:43S4: I'm too far gone. I'm too lost. I'm too. This.
- 7:46S4: What excuse did you finally open up that hand and say,
- 7:49S4: you know what? God is bigger than this excuse. What
- 7:53S4: was that for you? 800. 805. Five five, 78, 98.
- 7:58S4: God became bigger than that excuse that was holding you back.
- 8:02S4: Tell us your story. 800 555, 78, 98.
- 8:06S6: Yeah. Get him in here, guys. Get him in here.
- 8:09S6: 805 five, 578, 98.
- 8:13S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
- 8:17S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 8:20S6: I only thing that blows me away away today is
- 8:22S6: that these phone lines are jammed. Here's the thing, all right?
- 8:28S6: This is this is simple. This is low hanging fruit.
- 8:30S6: And it's we did this about, I don't know, a
- 8:33S6: month ago. No, an hour and a half ago. Um,
- 8:36S6: and it's fun question. What excuse did you finally give
- 8:40S6: up that ultimately led to freedom in Christ? Now, I
- 8:43S6: know this requires a little bit of humility, but let's
- 8:46S6: go 805, five, five, 78, 98. Just a quick sentence
- 8:51S6: on air. You gotta come on air 805 five, five, 78, 98.
- 8:56S6: And it's freeing, man, to be able to just fess
- 8:58S6: up to it. It's powerful. 805 557898. What do you say,
- 9:03S6: my man?
- 9:04S2: Yeah, my excuse was, but I prayed the prayers. But
- 9:09S2: I got baptized.
- 9:10S7: But whoa.
- 9:12S2: I believe that Jesus exists and that he died.
- 9:15S6: I hadn't thought about framing those out as excuses that
- 9:18S6: we make, but it's real.
- 9:19S2: Yeah. Well, I was going to say, you know, from
- 9:21S2: the part of my story is from the time I
- 9:23S2: was first convicted that I didn't have a real relationship
- 9:26S2: with Jesus to when I came to Christ was two
- 9:28S2: and a half years.
- 9:29S6: And so you were talking yourself into a pick and.
- 9:33S7: You.
- 9:33S6: You might as well have been a ballerina. You were
- 9:35S6: doing so many spins.
- 9:36S2: Absolutely, absolutely. I could have been the number one overall
- 9:39S2: pick for just my movement skills because I evaded that
- 9:44S2: like the plague man. I, I, uh, I very easily
- 9:49S2: not actually, I didn't easily talk myself out of it.
- 9:52S2: It got harder as time went on, but I would
- 9:54S2: I'd say it to myself just enough to convince myself
- 9:57S2: and then, you know, ignore the question for a little
- 9:59S2: while until the conviction came back. Uh, but but eventually,
- 10:04S2: I couldn't evade it anymore. The excuses had to drop.
- 10:07S2: I recognized that even though I did some religious things
- 10:11S2: in my life that I didn't know Jesus. And it
- 10:13S2: wasn't until I threw the excuses off that I found freedom.
- 10:19S6: Okay, I'm gonna do something here really quick. We've got
- 10:21S6: a question. What excuse did you finally give up that
- 10:24S6: ultimately led to freedom in Christ? And this isn't just salvation,
- 10:27S6: it's sanctification. It's this whole path. It could be the
- 10:30S6: event of salvation, but it could be sanctification. But I
- 10:33S6: just got to do this right now. So you came
- 10:36S6: here and when Jonathan says. I was making excuses. I've
- 10:40S6: been baptized. I've been boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You
- 10:43S6: go through all this list. But here's what the spirit
- 10:45S6: of God's telling you. You're like, Jonathan, you aren't really
- 10:49S6: born again, and you've been making excuses and you've been
- 10:52S6: appealing to all your religious activity. But if you've listened
- 10:56S6: here at all, I gotta, I gotta tell you. Can
- 10:59S6: I remind you Matthew seven says spiritually active people, God
- 11:04S6: will say, I don't know you and you don't know me.
- 11:07S6: Depart from me for eternity. And here's what's cool about
- 11:11S6: the Holy Spirit. What's really tremendous about the Holy Spirit
- 11:16S6: is he is working right now and somebody just got
- 11:19S6: a log jam. Just bam, broken loose. Like all of
- 11:22S6: a sudden, rivers of living water are flowing because you're like, shoot,
- 11:26S6: I've been excusing my deadness spiritually my whole life long.
- 11:30S6: And the issue is me and I've never been born again.
- 11:34S6: Today you can be. Let me explain very quickly the gospel.
- 11:38S6: If you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord. Uh,
- 11:42S6: there's there's no patent prayer. It's a cry of the soul.
- 11:46S6: It's just like the soul going, I'm done. You are
- 11:50S6: my highest authority. So in what this includes, when you say,
- 11:55S6: Jesus is my Lord, he's my Lord means me. He's
- 11:59S6: my highest authority. It means I realize I'm a sinner
- 12:04S6: and I can't, and my life is out of control.
- 12:07S6: I'm a sinner. And it's like, yeah. And saying that
- 12:10S6: is so freeing. I'm a sinner. No amount of my
- 12:13S6: spiritual activity can save me. Boom. Secondly, it's saying, you're
- 12:17S6: my highest authority. I am changing my mind, my direction
- 12:21S6: in everything that I am. And I'm turning and I'm
- 12:23S6: following Jesus today. And that might be you right now,
- 12:26S6: in this moment. So I just, I just want to
- 12:28S6: tell you, Allie's going to pray for you in a moment,
- 12:31S6: as soon as you can. If this is you today,
- 12:33S6: you're just saying, declaring boom, Jesus is my Savior. I
- 12:38S6: need one because I'm a sinner. It sounds brutal, but
- 12:43S6: it's so freeing. Friend, isn't it? And then you say,
- 12:46S6: because of this declaration that he is the ultimate authority
- 12:50S6: in my life, I'm turning around my mind, my heart,
- 12:53S6: my soul, my actions, everything. I'm turning them all over
- 12:56S6: to Jesus. You're born again. If that's the absolute cry
- 13:01S6: of your soul holding nothing back, you're born again. Ali,
- 13:04S6: quick prayer for these folks, would you?
- 13:06S7: Yeah.
- 13:07S4: Lord, thank you that you sent your son to seek
- 13:10S4: and to save the lost. To rescue lost sheep, to
- 13:14S4: save us from ourselves. God. So for the person today
- 13:17S4: who's humbling themselves under your mighty hand, declaring that you
- 13:22S4: are Lord, I just pray God that you would give
- 13:25S4: such joy to their heart. God, that you would break
- 13:27S4: off every excuse, God every perceived limitation, God, and that
- 13:34S4: there would be a radical taking hold of your truth
- 13:36S4: and your promises today, God, that there would be God.
- 13:40S4: Just that there's rivers of living water, as your word says,
- 13:42S4: that would flow. God, we just thank you that you
- 13:46S4: are powerful, that you are merciful. That today is a
- 13:48S4: brand new day. God, that you are making all things
- 13:51S4: new in the life of one, maybe many right now. God,
- 13:55S4: it's your work and your work alone and we're grateful.
- 13:58S4: In Jesus name. Amen.
- 14:00S6: Okay, really quick, we're going to help you. We're going
- 14:02S6: to go back to phone lines and answer this question.
- 14:04S6: By the way, what excuse did you finally give up
- 14:06S6: that ultimately led you to freedom in Christ? But for
- 14:09S6: those of you that are brand new today, you've broken
- 14:11S6: through through that funk excuse that young thunder had, and
- 14:14S6: you have received Jesus as Savior like never before. And
- 14:19S6: you know your new text, the word new one word
- 14:22S6: to us. And we're going to help you. We're going
- 14:24S6: to send you a brand new Bible. I don't care
- 14:25S6: if you got one. You need a new one. It's
- 14:27S6: a new day. And we're going to send you a
- 14:30S6: brand new Bible and get you in touch with someone
- 14:32S6: that's going to help you in your first steps and
- 14:35S6: just do it right now. Text the word new to
- 14:37S6: 805 557898. One word new to 805 557898. Isn't this great?
- 14:47S6: God caught you right where you were today. One word
- 14:50S6: new 805 557898.
- 14:56S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
- 14:58S5: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
- 15:02S5: to stay in your past. And I want you to
- 15:04S5: know and believe that today.
- 15:05S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
- 15:07S6: Man, it's so thrilling. Out of the blue, young Thunder
- 15:10S6: shared an excuse and his excuse lingered for a couple
- 15:13S6: of years, explaining, I've been baptized, I I'm Christian, don't
- 15:18S6: you know, only to find out no way. Excuse is
- 15:21S6: stripped away and they're saved. Look at this man. Several
- 15:24S6: of you texting in from all around the country. Maybe
- 15:27S6: the world. I want to do a quick welcome to
- 15:30S6: the family. Those of you that are saying, man, I gave.
- 15:33S6: I'm giving my life to Jesus. Total surrender. For the
- 15:36S6: first time, I recognize I'm a sinner. I'm turning around.
- 15:39S6: I'm leaving this broad path. I'm going on the new one.
- 15:43S6: I surrender all to Jesus. So cool. 2078, 76, ten, 29, 37, 83, 47.
- 15:52S6: Most of these first time texting ever in here. Boom
- 15:55S6: crew 547275045893 uh 076553008189 and another one just came in 4266.
- 16:15S6: Welcome to the family. How cool is this Ali just
- 16:18S6: like bang out of the blue.
- 16:20S4: Amazing, amazing. I want to quickly get back to the
- 16:23S4: phone lines as we celebrate with those of you just
- 16:25S4: surrendering to Christ, Alexis, you get to share your story
- 16:29S4: with our new listeners, our new believers, and with everyone
- 16:33S4: else listening. What was that excuse that you finally gave up?
- 16:37S8: Yes. Um, the excuse I finally gave up was that
- 16:42S8: I'm in control and that I can do this on
- 16:45S8: my own. I feel like I've come from a line
- 16:48S8: of strong women, and I've been married for 12 years,
- 16:52S8: and I have let go of trying to be in control. Like,
- 16:56S8: I don't have to handle it, you know? I don't
- 16:58S8: have to make it work because God is sovereign. And
- 17:03S8: even when I'm, you know, think I'm in control, like
- 17:05S8: he's doing all the work. And so I've given up
- 17:09S8: the excuse that I'm in control because at the end
- 17:11S8: of the day, it left me with a lot of
- 17:13S8: anger and resentment for things that I didn't, I didn't do. Right.
- 17:18S7: Alexis, you're.
- 17:19S8: Saying, God.
- 17:20S6: You're such a solid sister. I've obviously never met you,
- 17:23S6: but my goodness, I just want to give you a
- 17:26S6: big old hug because that is the gospel. Alexis.
- 17:29S4: Huge from Hobart, Indiana. Thank you so much, Alexis.
- 17:33S6: Oh my goodness. Let's get we got time for one more.
- 17:36S4: Uh, Larry first time caller from Ohio. We got 30s.
- 17:39S4: Squeeze it in.
- 17:41S9: Okay, I'll try to do this very quickly. When I
- 17:43S9: was in high school, I heard a very clear presentation
- 17:48S9: of the gospel by a guy from Young Life, and
- 17:51S9: I knew that I was asked to submit my life,
- 17:55S9: to surrender my life to Christ. And while in high school,
- 17:58S9: I said, there ain't no way in the world I'm
- 18:00S9: going to give Jesus control of my life. And I said,
- 18:04S9: I ain't going to do it. And I wanted to
- 18:06S9: continue to sin my excuse for not receiving Christ because
- 18:10S9: I wanted to continue to sin. Yeah, that's a big
- 18:12S9: one for another couple of years. Willfully sin. Yeah. And
- 18:15S9: I did for another couple of years until I said, okay, Jesus.
- 18:18S7: Right on.
- 18:19S9: With this.
- 18:20S6: Right on. Larry.
- 18:22S7: Whoo! Boom! We got him in and it's powerhouse. You
- 18:26S7: know what?
- 18:26S6: That's honesty.
- 18:27S2: That's so good.
- 18:28S4: I want to continue to sin.
- 18:29S2: Gotta be honest with yourself.
- 18:32S4: Freedom Friday here on Carl and crew.
- 18:35S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
- 18:38S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 18:41S6: Yeah. We got a question for you today. What excuse
- 18:44S6: did you finally give up that ultimately led to freedom
- 18:48S6: in Christ? 805, five, five, 78, 98. Looks like we
- 18:54S6: got Linda in. First time caller from Miami. What do
- 18:57S6: you say, Linda?
- 19:00S10: Hi. Good morning. Um, I gave up the the party life,
- 19:05S10: the feeling good, the promiscuity, the drugs. Um. And I'm
- 19:12S10: much happier now.
- 19:13S6: Oh, praise God. How long ago was that, Linda?
- 19:19S10: Well, I this is the second time around, but this
- 19:22S10: time I'm staying. This is the second time around. I
- 19:26S10: have been celibate now for four and a half years
- 19:30S10: and I'm very happy.
- 19:33S6: Way to go, Linda. God bless you, sister. On this
- 19:36S6: Freedom Friday. Just God bless you big time. It's cool,
- 19:39S6: isn't it, Ali, when we get stories like this.
- 19:41S4: Yeah. You know, you can make so you can have
- 19:43S4: so many excuses that keep you stuck. And we've all
- 19:45S4: made them. What was that excuse that you finally gave
- 19:48S4: up that ultimately led to freedom? Mike from Indiana. What
- 19:52S4: was the excuse that you were making? Mike from Indiana,
- 19:58S4: you're on with Carl and crew. Go ahead and tell us,
- 20:00S4: what was that excuse that you finally gave up?
- 20:04S11: Um, I finally gave up drinking, and the Lord basically
- 20:09S11: cut those chains from me. And I'm so ever grateful.
- 20:13S7: Yeah.
- 20:13S11: And it's a very trying time in my life. I
- 20:16S11: had to put my wife in hospice after a lengthy illness. And, um,
- 20:23S11: I'm just so grateful to him for all that he's
- 20:26S11: done for me.
- 20:26S7: Yeah.
- 20:27S6: That's beautiful. Mike. Man, I love you, Tenderheart. Dude. Way
- 20:30S6: to go. Tender hearted men love it. You know, when
- 20:33S6: you think about the power of Christ to transform and
- 20:38S6: then you think about the roadblocks. The funny thing is,
- 20:41S6: is that we stand in the way and often with
- 20:44S6: excuses in hand, maybe not conscious, but subconscious. Yeah. If
- 20:48S6: I just had this gone for my life, if I didn't,
- 20:52S6: if I wasn't born this way, if I wasn't in
- 20:56S6: this kind of an economic situation, if I didn't have
- 21:00S6: this hole in my heart that needed to be filled,
- 21:02S6: like Linda was saying with, with a man, if I
- 21:06S6: didn't have fill in the blank, my goodness, it can
- 21:09S6: go on and on, right?
- 21:10S4: Yeah. What was it for you? That excuse that you
- 21:12S4: finally gave up? I'm too far gone. I'm too addicted.
- 21:16S4: I'm too this. my family's to dysfunctional. What excuse did
- 21:20S4: you finally give up that ultimately led to you walking
- 21:22S4: free in Christ? 805 557898 (800) 555-7898.
- 21:31S1: Standing on the rock each and every day. You're listening
- 21:35S1: to cast and Crew.
- 21:37S7: I've got a.
- 21:37S6: Question for you today. We'll get a couple more calls
- 21:39S6: in here. What do you got?
- 21:40S12: What excuse did you.
- 21:41S4: Finally give up that ultimately led to you walking free
- 21:45S4: in Christ? 805. 557898. Earl from Kenosha, Wisconsin. What was
- 21:51S4: that excuse for you?
- 21:55S13: The excuse was I can't. I finally given up saying
- 22:00S13: those words out loud? If my precious wife of 42
- 22:05S13: years had a dollar for every time she heard me say, honey,
- 22:08S13: you know, I can't.
- 22:11S7: Um, she'd be a rich lady, man.
- 22:14S13: Income. Yeah. Um, and, and she would say, Earl, you
- 22:19S13: can rationalize anything. And before you're done, you'll quote some
- 22:23S13: scripture which convinces you you must be right in your opinion.
- 22:26S13: But the truth was that I was stuck in my buckets.
- 22:29S13: I've loved personality inventories ever since I encountered them, but
- 22:34S13: the enemy used used them to keep me trapped and
- 22:37S13: believing I can't. And the the key was in Romans eight,
- 22:41S13: where it talks about living according to the flesh or
- 22:43S13: according to the spirit, and it's rather easy to see.
- 22:46S13: That means I can't be letting my own natural desires
- 22:50S13: guide me, even the supposedly good ones. Uh, that's rather obvious.
- 22:55S13: But the key was realizing, yeah, but what am I
- 22:58S13: relying on? AM I relying on my natural bucket? Or
- 23:01S13: am I relying on the empowering presence of the Holy Spirit?
- 23:05S7: Brother boom.
- 23:07S6: Girl.
- 23:08S2: That's right.
- 23:08S6: On boom. That's the gospel.
- 23:13S4: Yeah. Earl, that's. Thank you so much for calling in
- 23:16S4: this morning that that that level of humility to be
- 23:18S4: able to admit that is huge. Huge.
- 23:24S6: Now Earl aims to get all the dollars he gave
- 23:27S6: for the I can'ts back $1 to call. Now, Earl
- 23:31S6: can say by the power of Christ in me. And
- 23:33S6: here comes a dollar back by the power of Jesus. Boom!
- 23:38S6: I can by the filling of the spirit. Boom! Another
- 23:41S6: buck back at you. Oh, he didn't have the time
- 23:45S6: this side of glory to get all that back. But
- 23:47S6: you know what? That is a powerful testimony. That is
- 23:51S6: the gospel. That's what we're doing here, guys. Andy and Cleveland,
- 23:55S6: real quick, let's get you in here. What do you say, Andy?
- 23:59S9: Hey, guys. How you doing, Andy? Yeah, we, uh, I
- 24:03S9: listened to you since November, and I got saved, uh,
- 24:06S9: through your ministry, man. And, uh, I told you this
- 24:10S9: story about, uh, elk skull falling off my shed and
- 24:14S9: how God used that.
- 24:15S6: Yes.
- 24:16S9: To awaken me up. Proverbs 291 whoever remains stiff necked
- 24:22S9: after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed without remedy. That
- 24:28S9: changed my attitude of I, I, I can't stop smoking dope.
- 24:33S9: You smell it everywhere. It's legal everywhere. And because of
- 24:37S9: this scenario, this proverb and your ministry and Doctor Joe's ministry.
- 24:45S9: Praise God.
- 24:46S6: God set you free, buddy. I love you, Andy. Thank
- 24:48S6: you so much for calling in today. Boom, brother. That's
- 24:51S6: why we call you the Boom crew are beautiful stories, guys.
- 24:55S4: Wow.
- 24:56S3: Stories.
- 24:57S4: Wow.
- 24:57S6: The tomb is empty. Our God is alive. Wow. Welcome
- 25:03S6: to Freedom Friday.
- 25:04S1: She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.
- 25:09S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
- 25:13S1: on Moody Radio.
- 25:15S6: If there's one thing I love, it's personality tests.
- 25:18S12: You do?
- 25:19S6: I love them. I don't care if it's the online,
- 25:21S6: even crazy one animal in you where you get an
- 25:24S6: animal assigned to you. But here's why I think it
- 25:28S6: gives us good buckets to think in. But if you're
- 25:32S6: not careful, it can give you buckets to get stuck in.
- 25:37S6: And pretty quick you're saying I can't change because I'm
- 25:41S6: wired that way. There ain't no way I'm going to change.
- 25:47S6: Maria Littauer. Our guest right now, your dad came up with.
- 25:51S6: And let me just give him to everyone listening right now.
- 25:54S6: Some of you will remember, some of you won't. Popular. Sanguine. Powerful, choleric, perfect.
- 25:59S6: Melancholy and peaceful. Phlegmatic. Wow. That was your daddy, sister.
- 26:05S14: He created the personality profile, not the system itself, because
- 26:10S14: the system itself is actually several thousand years old. It
- 26:14S14: was originally created by Hippocrates, but my father created a
- 26:18S14: personality profile back when I was nine years old, and
- 26:22S14: I'm 67. And so that was quite a while ago.
- 26:26S14: And that personality profile is still in use in schools, churches,
- 26:30S14: and businesses and individuals all over the country and even
- 26:34S14: the world today.
- 26:35S6: You know, one of the challenges that kind of sets
- 26:37S6: you up with this, we can look at these personality
- 26:40S6: profiles and they're powerful tools, but if we're not careful,
- 26:44S6: we can get stuck. And we say, I can't change
- 26:47S6: because I'm wired this way as an explanation for spiritual deficits.
- 26:52S6: Speak to that.
- 26:54S14: Yes. And that's definitely something that our program kind of
- 26:57S14: teaches against that mindset. In the book wired that way,
- 27:01S14: I have a whole chapter called Living in Strength. And
- 27:05S14: the idea is that once you're aware of what your
- 27:08S14: personality type is, you use this as a tool for
- 27:12S14: growth with the power of the Holy Spirit to help
- 27:15S14: you grow and mature beyond who you naturally are, and
- 27:19S14: work to live in your strengths while you eliminate your weaknesses.
- 27:24S14: Any personality type, any one of the four we're talking about.
- 27:28S14: If that person is living in their weaknesses, which is
- 27:32S14: someone who's kind of raw or unevolved, that's not a
- 27:36S14: person you want to be with, but any one of
- 27:38S14: them living in their strengths is someone we all want
- 27:42S14: to be with.
- 27:43S6: Love it. Okay, let's go through these. Let's take them
- 27:45S6: one at a time. Popular song. One. Give me a definition.
- 27:49S14: The popular sanguine is also represented by the color yellow.
- 27:52S14: Like the happy face. This is the person that as
- 27:55S14: a child, their mother says about him or her. Oh,
- 27:58S14: she never met a stranger. This is the person who's
- 28:01S14: loud and outgoing and fun loving, but also tends to
- 28:04S14: be disorganized and late.
- 28:07S6: Okay, there we go. All right. Powerful. Choleric. What is that?
- 28:11S14: The powerful color represented by the color red is the
- 28:14S14: natural boss of life. And they're the ones, even as children,
- 28:19S14: that you see them telling the other little children what
- 28:22S14: to do. And they are leaders, strong leaders. They are
- 28:25S14: goal oriented and they are driven. But of course, along
- 28:28S14: with that, they can tend to be judgmental and bossy.
- 28:32S6: Yeah. I mean, that's my bucket for sure. Okay, perfect.
- 28:35S6: I mean, yeah, I'm a poster boy for that. And
- 28:38S6: God's had to really work on some of those aspects
- 28:40S6: of me. My team would tell you that, and I'm
- 28:42S6: not going to let them turn their mics on right now.
- 28:45S6: Having a little fun here? What about perfect melancholy?
- 28:49S14: The perfect melancholy represented by the color blue is an introvert.
- 28:52S14: It's someone who's deep, thoughtful, introspective, and perfectionistic. However, they
- 28:59S14: tend to be moody and can be depressed more than
- 29:02S14: any of the other personality types.
- 29:04S6: Okay. Peaceful. Phlegmatic. What is that.
- 29:08S14: Represented by the color green? This is the easygoing person
- 29:12S14: that's relaxing that everybody enjoys being with. However, they tend
- 29:17S14: to be unmotivated and can have a snarky sense of humor.
- 29:22S6: Okay, I know my team well enough where I could
- 29:25S6: put them all in a bucket right now, but I'm
- 29:26S6: not going to do it.
- 29:27S3: Thank you.
- 29:29S6: So here's the interesting thing as you go through these,
- 29:32S6: and I'm so glad to get reacquainted with these, there
- 29:36S6: is an upside and a downside that you illustrated for
- 29:40S6: every one of them, isn't there?
- 29:42S14: There is, yes. Most definitely.
- 29:44S6: Another question I have is and pride in humility will
- 29:49S6: manifest itself differently in each of these, won't they?
- 29:53S14: Yes it will.
- 29:54S6: How does that manifest itself? And I'm not asking you
- 29:57S6: to take each one. But oftentimes we think, and I
- 30:01S6: guess I'm trying to cheer for the guys like me
- 30:04S6: out there. Oftentimes we look at the loud leader guys
- 30:06S6: and we go, man, that's pride. But you can be
- 30:09S6: melancholy or phlegmatic and still be very filled with arrogance.
- 30:14S6: It just doesn't manifest the same way.
- 30:17S14: That would be true because the perfect melancholy, for example,
- 30:20S14: does tend to be a perfectionist. And that was my father.
- 30:24S14: And they do everything right. And because they do everything right,
- 30:28S14: it's very easy to look down at the other people
- 30:31S14: and think that they are wrong, which was the case
- 30:33S14: in my parents marriage when they first became aware of
- 30:36S14: this general material.
- 30:38S6: What's the big aha? Your dad kind of he systematized
- 30:42S6: these four personality types. What's the biggest aha? You've had
- 30:47S6: the biggest one as you've been writing on this now
- 30:49S6: for years.
- 30:51S14: People consistently. It's not just one, but it's a concept.
- 30:54S14: It's an idea. The idea that. Understanding that just because
- 30:58S14: that person is different doesn't make them wrong. And in
- 31:03S14: my book wired that Way, I really focuses on understanding
- 31:06S14: others and improving your relationship with them. And that's the
- 31:12S14: idea that just because that person is different doesn't make
- 31:14S14: them wrong.
- 31:15S6: Give me a cool story. Give me a cool story.
- 31:18S6: You must have run into someone. It's like, oh my goodness,
- 31:20S6: because they discovered this and they just embraced how God
- 31:24S6: made them. And yet they didn't want to say, well,
- 31:27S6: that's the way I am and didn't want to change
- 31:30S6: because they flexed under the power of the Holy Spirit.
- 31:33S6: Something really cool came out of it. What do you say?
- 31:36S14: I went on a trip with some girlfriends last June,
- 31:39S14: a year ago, and I realized before I went on
- 31:42S14: this girlfriend trip that the five other girls that I
- 31:46S14: was going with were all at least 50% that perfect,
- 31:49S14: melancholy kind of personality. And I was the only sanguine
- 31:54S14: one in the whole group. and I had to. In
- 31:56S14: my mind, before I agreed to go on this trip,
- 32:00S14: I had to think to myself, am I going to
- 32:02S14: be okay if they all don't want to go do
- 32:06S14: fun things? If they don't want to go tour the island,
- 32:09S14: if they don't want to go snorkeling. And I really
- 32:12S14: had to process that. And you know what? It played
- 32:15S14: out exactly as the personalities would indicate because they wanted
- 32:20S14: to just lie around all the time. And I ended
- 32:22S14: up being the only one who went snorkeling. I ended
- 32:25S14: up being the only one who took a tour of
- 32:27S14: the island. ET cetera. You get the idea. Yeah, but
- 32:30S14: I had to have that conversation in my head because
- 32:33S14: it would have been so easy had I not understood
- 32:36S14: all this. It would have been so easy to be
- 32:38S14: really irritated with them that here we are on this
- 32:41S14: island vacation and you guys don't want to do anything.
- 32:45S6: Yeah, Marie de La Tour is with us right now,
- 32:47S6: and this is powerful stuff. Hey, how's this tool utilized best.
- 32:52S6: Does this form good teams. Does it sharpen teams? I mean,
- 32:57S6: most often we look at these personality types and we
- 33:02S6: kind of pigeonhole where we're at. We have fun with that,
- 33:04S6: but we never grow in it. So big open ended
- 33:08S6: question here. Do teams benefit from this and are teams
- 33:12S6: better when they have a good smattering of each of
- 33:15S6: these personality types in them?
- 33:17S14: Yes, teams definitely benefit. Helps them to understand their other teammates,
- 33:22S14: as it were. And then it also is beneficial when
- 33:26S14: you do have the people in the skills placed in
- 33:29S14: job roles that benefit them from their natural skill set.
- 33:34S14: People are happiest at work when they are doing something
- 33:38S14: that is natural to them, a skill that works with
- 33:41S14: them the best.
- 33:42S6: Yeah, and there's been a move afoot to change something
- 33:46S6: because I'm old enough to remember when everybody wanted to
- 33:50S6: get strong at what they're not strong at. And I
- 33:54S6: think what you're proposing here is identify your strengths. Don't
- 33:58S6: let the things that are your weaknesses turn into sin
- 34:02S6: and missing the mark. But I love plugging people into
- 34:06S6: their strengths. That's the stuff of life. That's how God
- 34:09S6: wired us. Right? Morita.
- 34:11S14: Exactly. And that's where they're going to be the very best. However,
- 34:15S14: if we look at the life of Christ, if we
- 34:17S14: were to do a profile on the life of Christ,
- 34:19S14: we would see that he has the weaknesses of none
- 34:21S14: and the strengths of all four. But as Christians, our
- 34:25S14: goal is to become more like Christ. So I propose
- 34:29S14: that we use your personality type as a starting place,
- 34:32S14: a launching pad, and now that you know what skills
- 34:35S14: you naturally have and that's your natural, that's where you're
- 34:38S14: always going to be the most comfortable. That's where you're
- 34:41S14: always going to have the best fit. But that doesn't
- 34:43S14: mean we can't learn to be more like Christ. That
- 34:47S14: doesn't mean we can't learn skills that are outside of
- 34:50S14: our natural comfort zone. And that.
- 34:52S6: Goes.
- 34:52S14: Back to what you started in the beginning about using
- 34:55S14: this as an excuse. No, this is not an excuse
- 34:58S14: that says I can't grow because no, you can grow,
- 35:01S14: especially with the power of the Holy Spirit.
- 35:04S6: Yeah, that's an incredible insight. I gotta tell you, that's
- 35:07S6: an incredible insight. Looking at the life of Jesus. And
- 35:09S6: I'm perusing the sanguine cleric, uh, melancholy, phlegmatic. That's fascinating.
- 35:16S6: I think you're spot on. You know, if we try, though,
- 35:19S6: to adopt this in our strength, we're toast. This has
- 35:21S6: got to be a spirit breathed thing, right?
- 35:24S14: Yes, definitely. Definitely.
- 35:26S6: Marita Littauer right now with me. And this has been awesome.
- 35:31S6: She's the author of the book Wired That Way. And
- 35:34S6: her daddy codified these four personality types, and she has
- 35:39S6: just taken off from there wired that way. This is
- 35:43S6: a powerful little tool. Text the word wired. Just one word.
- 35:48S6: Wired as in wired for sound wired. See, that shows
- 35:52S6: my personality right there. Wired to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 35:58S6: One word wired to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 36:04S1: Want to hear that again? Just download the Kernel and
- 36:07S1: Crew podcast wherever you like to stream.
- 36:10S6: So this whole week we've been tackling I can't change
- 36:14S6: because and we've talked about time, we've talked about family,
- 36:19S6: we've talked about lack and boundaries with people that are
- 36:22S6: always in our way emotionally, spiritually, in an unhealthy way.
- 36:26S6: But what about this one? I can't change because what
- 36:31S6: if we filled in the blank with Satan, demons and
- 36:34S6: all the attacks on our life that we have 24
- 36:38S6: over seven? I don't know that we've taken this seriously enough.
- 36:41S4: Maybe we haven't. We've got a special guest, Heather Otis Tayloe.
- 36:44S4: She's the daughter of evangelist and Bible teacher George Otis, senior.
- 36:48S4: Her new book is called The Saboteur. The title alone
- 36:52S4: and the book cover. I mean this it's a bright
- 36:55S4: red book. It's got this dark figure sort of hovering over.
- 36:59S4: I mean, this it's scary looking stuff. I mean, I'm
- 37:03S4: sure that this was an intentional choice in terms of
- 37:06S4: getting people interested in a topic that maybe we gloss
- 37:09S4: over from a Hollywood sort of standpoint, but don't really
- 37:12S4: fully understand. What do you say, Heather?
- 37:15S15: I say absolutely, and it was my intention, and I
- 37:18S15: think it was the Holy Spirit's intention to draw not
- 37:21S15: only believers, but non-believers to the book, because it's equally
- 37:25S15: as helpful and equally as a book that's drawing them
- 37:29S15: towards the Lord as the solution.
- 37:32S6: Love having you on here, Heather. I think there's two
- 37:35S6: ways that we fall off this high ridge of spiritual warfare.
- 37:38S6: One is, ah, you know, this demonization stuff. Uh, you know,
- 37:44S6: come on, just open your Bibles. I think that is
- 37:47S6: utterly foolish response. The other one is you find a
- 37:50S6: demon under un every proverbial rock. What is the high
- 37:56S6: ridge frame for us? How real and how dangerous the
- 38:01S6: enemy and demonic forces are. And yet we've got victory
- 38:05S6: in Christ, don't we, Heather?
- 38:07S15: We certainly do. And the book in no way elevates Satan,
- 38:12S15: but it also causes believers. It's intentionally causing believers to
- 38:18S15: see that he is real. When the when the word says,
- 38:21S15: be alert, be sober. Uh, the Lord was very, very
- 38:24S15: serious about that. For the Christian life. He is an
- 38:28S15: agent of subterfuge and he is a subversive agent that
- 38:33S15: that does have stratagems to trip us up.
- 38:36S4: So, Heather, what are some of the ways that maybe
- 38:39S4: we underestimate the power of the enemy, and that we
- 38:44S4: maybe don't know his character as we should.
- 38:49S15: I think the biggest thing you touched on, and that
- 38:52S15: is unbelief. If Satan can get us to believe he's
- 38:55S15: he's just a little red guy in a costume that
- 38:58S15: we might see at Halloween, then he can. He can
- 39:02S15: move freely in and out of our life at will.
- 39:05S15: But the Bible is very clear that he is real.
- 39:09S15: In Luke, we see that he even tempted Jesus in
- 39:12S15: the flesh. And Jesus warns us that we're. You know
- 39:16S15: how we're to behave around around his traps and. And
- 39:20S15: so I would say unbelief is huge. I would say
- 39:24S15: mixture is huge. We're mixing our faith with a lot
- 39:27S15: of other things. And. And the Lord says in his commandments,
- 39:30S15: I will have no other God before me. Nothing. There's
- 39:35S15: just so many ways he does it. But those are
- 39:37S15: the the top two.
- 39:39S6: Heather. Otis Tayloe is our guest right now, and she's
- 39:42S6: the author of a brand new book called The Saboteur
- 39:46S6: Agent of Subterfuge and Subversive Stratagems. And that's more than
- 39:51S6: just a bunch of s words. It's a reality. And
- 39:53S6: it's right here in Ephesians six. And I want you
- 39:55S6: to comment on this. This is the Apostle Paul. We
- 39:58S6: do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
- 40:02S6: against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness,
- 40:07S6: against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
- 40:13S6: I wonder if we take that seriously enough. Heather, what
- 40:16S6: do you say?
- 40:18S15: I say that I think the average Christian and, you know,
- 40:22S15: you might say, don't speak for them, but I encountered
- 40:26S15: it myself. The average Christian does not take it seriously enough.
- 40:30S15: And that is why the book was written, because if
- 40:33S15: we don't take it seriously enough, like I said, he's
- 40:37S15: able to move in and out of our lives in
- 40:40S15: ways we might not even suspect, because the enemy is
- 40:43S15: about getting us off course. Even if he can get
- 40:47S15: us off course a little, we don't hit the mark
- 40:50S15: that the Lord wants us to hit. So God wants
- 40:53S15: us to be successful as a believer and. And to
- 40:57S15: do that, we have to take his word seriously when
- 41:01S15: he says, you know, that we're supposed to pay attention
- 41:04S15: to that, then we need to.
- 41:06S6: Give us a story of someone who fell prey to
- 41:11S6: a stratagem that they maybe did not see coming their way,
- 41:16S6: a demonic attack on their life, and how real this
- 41:18S6: can be.
- 41:20S15: There are several people, but one in particular that brought
- 41:25S15: things into their home from overseas. You know the little
- 41:30S15: statue here a little, you know, piece of art there and, um,
- 41:34S15: you know, hanging crystals over their door. I heard a
- 41:38S15: story about that. And this woman who kept coming in
- 41:42S15: and out of her house. Said, every time I walked
- 41:45S15: across my threshold, I had headaches. And she, my friend said, well,
- 41:50S15: you need to pray about that. So she did. And she,
- 41:53S15: she was drawn to these crystals. She'd hung up when
- 41:56S15: she was really deeply into New Age things, and she'd
- 41:59S15: got it from a retreat. And so we have to
- 42:03S15: take these things seriously. We cannot bring them into the
- 42:06S15: place where God is to occupy. When we are believers
- 42:10S15: in Christ, we are not to mix other things in
- 42:15S15: with our Christianity. And God is a jealous God. The
- 42:19S15: Bible says, and that just means he loves us intensely
- 42:23S15: and he wants what's best for us. And he knows
- 42:25S15: that if there's, you know, if Satan is involved, there's
- 42:29S15: going to be lying, there's going to be fear. There's
- 42:32S15: going to be things that lead us off track in
- 42:35S15: our in our life with Christ. And I think this
- 42:39S15: is the saddest thing. I think people don't take into
- 42:42S15: account that their lives aren't as fruitful in bringing others
- 42:46S15: into the kingdom of God. If we are not acting
- 42:49S15: as children of light into the dark world, then what
- 42:54S15: are we doing? We're dimming our light.
- 42:56S4: Heather, you mentioned sometimes the objects that can have much
- 43:00S4: more significance than maybe we realize. What are some of
- 43:03S4: the other subtle strategies of Satan that often go unnoticed?
- 43:07S15: I think that there are a lot of people that
- 43:10S15: are have had trauma in their youth. And I think
- 43:14S15: we see a lot of adults that are grappling with that.
- 43:18S15: And I think that Prayerfulness is huge. We can't put
- 43:22S15: off the need to be a prayerful Christian or a Christian.
- 43:26S15: That really takes our Bible reading seriously. You know, the
- 43:30S15: Bible talks about how the word washes us. It washes in.
- 43:35S15: And I always say, you have to know what the
- 43:38S15: real is to be able to identify the counterfeit. And
- 43:43S15: there are a lot of Christians out there that are
- 43:45S15: taking their word intake from a teacher, from their pastor,
- 43:50S15: which is beautiful. I think that's wonderful. But we have
- 43:53S15: to take care of our spiritual health by getting into
- 43:57S15: the word and by prayer.
- 43:59S6: Our guest, Heather Otis Tayloe, is with us right now.
- 44:03S6: She's the author of a brand new book called The
- 44:05S6: Saboteur Agent of Subterfuge and Subversive Stratagems. Coming up here, Heather,
- 44:12S6: let's talk about some of these solutions. We've highlighted the
- 44:16S6: fact that Satan is real. Demons are real. There are
- 44:19S6: attempts to derail us, and they come in many forms.
- 44:22S6: But what is that weapon of war that even Paul
- 44:26S6: and Jesus speak of the Word of God, the rhema
- 44:29S6: word of God straight ahead with Heather Otis Tayloe.
- 44:33S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then
- 44:36S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl
- 44:40S1: and crew on Moody Radio.
- 44:42S6: Heather Otis Taylor, our guest right now, she's the author
- 44:45S6: of a brand new book called The Saboteur Agent of
- 44:48S6: Subterfuge and Subversive Stratagems. So we know Satan prowls. We
- 44:54S6: know that there are agents of Satan that want to steal, kill,
- 44:58S6: and destroy. And yet we are not to be afraid.
- 45:03S6: And one of the great things that we're given by
- 45:05S6: the Apostle Paul after he warns in Ephesians six, is
- 45:08S6: this armor of God. But one strikes me here, and
- 45:10S6: I'm wanting your take on this. He says, take up
- 45:14S6: the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
- 45:17S6: But that word there is the word rhema. It's the
- 45:20S6: spoken word of God. I have not had a chance
- 45:24S6: to read your whole book. I've seen excerpts, but have
- 45:26S6: you done any study on the offensive weapon of war.
- 45:30S6: The Word of God even speaking it out. What's your
- 45:33S6: take on that, Heather?
- 45:34S15: Oh, I absolutely believe that. In Ephesians, we're told that
- 45:37S15: we're to put on the full armor of God. And
- 45:41S15: it lists all the things that we need to put on.
- 45:44S15: And if you think about it, really think about it.
- 45:47S15: There's something going over your head, which is salvation and
- 45:50S15: that's your, your mind. There's something being placed over your heart.
- 45:54S15: And that is such a source of so many places
- 45:57S15: where we get into all kinds of traps. And, and
- 46:01S15: I could go on with all the pieces, but the
- 46:04S15: word is the offensive weapon. It is actually what Jesus
- 46:09S15: said to Satan himself. He said, it is written. And
- 46:12S15: then he would quote the word of God himself, even
- 46:15S15: though in John we're told he is the word. And
- 46:19S15: so he's really just saying, take me up, take me up,
- 46:24S15: take the person of who I am. Up. Take the
- 46:27S15: word straight into the battle zone. And yes, if you
- 46:31S15: don't have the word hidden in your heart, you could
- 46:34S15: find yourself in a conversation or in a situation where
- 46:38S15: you're completely without armor. And that's a problem. There's a
- 46:43S15: reason God tells us to get dressed, to take the
- 46:47S15: enemy's plans and stratagems against us seriously. And if we'll
- 46:52S15: do that, if we'll learn what his stratagems are, then
- 46:56S15: we can combat it open eyed. Not with fear, not
- 47:00S15: with any kind of trepidation. Not not in any wise.
- 47:04S15: Looking at Satan as something bigger than we are because
- 47:07S15: he's not. We have the authority of Christ. We have
- 47:10S15: the name of Christ written on us and the Holy Spirit.
- 47:15S15: But if we don't take our enemy seriously, we can
- 47:18S15: really get into some pickles. I can say that.
- 47:22S4: Heather, how important is it to be proactive in this?
- 47:25S4: I mean, because it can be it can be very
- 47:27S4: easy to kind of just want to stand back and
- 47:29S4: just do nothing. Sort of. I, you know, I don't
- 47:32S4: want to engage with anything that seems dark, but I
- 47:35S4: don't really like, I kind of want to opt out
- 47:37S4: of this war altogether, which obviously isn't an option. How,
- 47:42S4: how important is taking action?
- 47:46S15: I love that you asked that question. Um, I think
- 47:49S15: we are learning very swiftly here as the church, how
- 47:53S15: inaction has completely flustered the church through recent historical things
- 47:58S15: that have gone on with the church. And I really
- 48:01S15: believe that the Lord intentions for us to keep our
- 48:05S15: minds alert. It's it's deeply important that we understand the word,
- 48:10S15: that we use it, that we consider the word. Um,
- 48:14S15: it is our weaponry. And that's uncomfortable for some people.
- 48:18S15: They want to hide under a rock, as you said,
- 48:20S15: but that doesn't make the satanic world go away. It
- 48:25S15: makes them push in harder. And that's, again, not to
- 48:28S15: make somebody be afraid, but but to ignore it, like
- 48:32S15: so many other things, like problems, doesn't make that problem
- 48:35S15: go away. The problem still exists. And as we know
- 48:38S15: from John 1010, the enemy came to rob, kill and steal.
- 48:44S15: And he's always doing that. He's like a hungry lion.
- 48:49S15: The Bible also tells us that means he's never satisfied.
- 48:53S15: So his war against us is unrelenting. Um, and if
- 48:58S15: we have the word man, it makes him back up.
- 49:01S15: And I've had so many situations myself personally, where I
- 49:06S15: begin to praise the Lord. I use the word to praise.
- 49:10S15: I use the word to pray. I use the word to, um,
- 49:14S15: take me into a situation where I think that there's
- 49:17S15: going to be an issue or uh, or, or into
- 49:21S15: my day because we don't always know when we're going
- 49:24S15: to be facing an issue that has the demonic attached
- 49:28S15: to it. And I think maybe you've both noticed the
- 49:32S15: rise of the occult and the rise and the openness,
- 49:36S15: both overt and covert, going on right now in our culture,
- 49:41S15: as well as what I'd call the rise of the
- 49:44S15: ancient gods. People are mentioning gods we haven't heard about
- 49:49S15: in our lifetime. I'm I'm older. I'm probably decades older
- 49:52S15: than even you, but it's like, uh, we are watching
- 49:57S15: the rise of, of satanic things into public into public arena.
- 50:02S15: He's not hiding anymore. He's overt.
- 50:06S6: This is really good content. Okay. Boom. Crew, we got
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