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Championship Edition - R.E.M. FINALS · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  Oh my, Oh my. It is time.
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  It is the finals. It's all been leading up to
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  this. We're recording this in March
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  when it comes out after March. How about that?
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  It's it's big time here, John. It's the the R.E.M.
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  Championship edition finals. Talk to me about, you know, the
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  whole, the whole thing so far. Like how do you feel like
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  getting to the finals here? How do you feel like that's
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  gone? Yeah, it, it didn't go how I
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  thought. I think like we've got a, a good
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  like diverse group of fans, like everybody here and you guys are
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  like you guys see them and listen to them differently than
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  I do. So with, with the other two that
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  we did Pearl Jam and Radiohead, I think I had a better grasp on
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  who I was dealing with. So I was able to kind of like
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  gauge that a little better. But this one has been like all
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  over the place. And I'm, you know, I'm not
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  saying that's a bad thing. Like we've we've gotten like a
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  little bit of everyone's like strengths and like everyone's
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  take on like what they like and why they like love this band.
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  And like this one's been been tougher, I think than the other
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  two championship editions for me.
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  Like a like there's just more music.
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  They're more, they were more consistent from, from top to
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  bottom, like making the making each individual list of the four
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  that we did was pretty easy because like, like I said, you
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  could break it up and like you have these distinct like eras of
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  their career. But when you put that all
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  together, you see just kind of how strong it all is together.
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  And I still don't feel great about the the 15 that I have.
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  I know they're like, there's more than 15 classic great
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  R.E.M. Songs that I love and like I it
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  was a little bit surprising. I think there were there were
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  some definitely that if if I looked at on paper, the being
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  able to oh, that that's a shoe and and and some of those songs
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  didn't make it. What do you think, Peter?
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  I mean, when you, when you look at this 40 and you and you think
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  back to how we got to this 40, do you feel like it played out
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  how you thought or, or are we looking at a very different list
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  than you thought? Definitely a very different list
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  than I thought. Like to just to echo like there
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  is a bunch of songs that I thought were just shoe insurance
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  that just kind of just got tossed aside.
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  And then there are songs that I was that got in and I was like,
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  really that one. All right, I'm I'm not mad about
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  it, but all right. But cutting that 40 down to 15
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  was painful. I do not feel fine, especially
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  in the in the 40s. Like there were at least a
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  handful of songs were like, I was kind of the odd one out and
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  I was just kind of like, well, I'll allow it whenever I don't
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  want to fight. But still, cutting this down to
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  15 was painful because, I mean, they have, I mean, at least more
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  than 40 great songs. Like it was just tough.
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  It was tough, tough, tougher than Radiohead.
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  Gavin, this is your, your first championship edition.
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  I mean, you had no problem being the wrench.
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  You know, a lot of times of, of what people thought were the
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  Shuans. Like, first of all, I guess I, I
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  guess I would ask, you know, you're very diplomatic about it.
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  I, I feel like you had your reasons.
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  Do you feel still strongly about, you know, getting in the
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  way of those songs? And then when you look at the 40
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  that came in, do you still feel feel that way?
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  Yeah, I think, I think, well, for one thing, I've had a blast.
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  Thank you for having me. This has been super fun, even
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  though, you know, it's painful. I think I tried to balance that
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  by really being a compromiser too.
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  You know, like I, I didn't like die on any hill really or
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  anything. I kind of, I think, you know,
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  like, kind of like we've talked about and John was talking about
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  with their, with the, with the length of their career and all
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  the guys on the panel have talked about their, their, their
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  affection for a certain album and an album that they kind of
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  came in on, you know, and like, you know, I'm old, you know,
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  like, I was like listening to R.E.M. in 84.
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  I saw them in, I saw them in 858687 like when you're young
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  and music gets you in the heart, you know, And so I, I can't
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  apologize for being on team IRS, you know, like the IRS here is
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  like my R.E.M. And, and I think that I'm not
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  alone in, I think there's a large segment of IR of, of
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  R.E.M. Fans who really Revere that
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  period for them. And so I'm not, I don't
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  apologize for it, but I do you'll.
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  I've felt the pain of people on the panel like loving songs that
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  just weren't my songs. You know, I think that, like, I
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  think that the tendency maybe to just kind of double down and
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  fall back into your albums right now and like, walk away with an
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  unsatisfying compromise. Like I was like, I hope that we
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  just don't wind up with the greatest hits.
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  Like, it was like the greatest hits album, you know?
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  But we'll see how it goes. Now, Chris, I I know you've
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  basically lost your voice, so, you know, you know, keep this as
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  succinct as you need to, but like speaking to Gavin's point
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  on on Pain, you very vocally very disturbed by one of your
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  songs not getting in. Now we're here at the 40.
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  Like, are you looking at it as, yeah, my song maybe didn't stand
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  a chance or, or does that change like your gameplay at all going
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  here into the finals? No, I mean, everyone seemed to
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  have a hard time with this final one.
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  And for me this was the easiest one.
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  I I, I didn't even, I didn't listen to the whole thing.
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  I went through. I picked out the songs where I'm
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  like, these are my tops. Yeah, these are all my tops.
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  Yeah, I've made a couple changes here and there, but I didn't
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  anguish over it. I had my anguish already.
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  I didn't want anymore during this thing.
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  So I was just like, you know what, I'm going to pick out
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  these 15 songs that I really, really love that I really think.
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  And it might end up as sort of a greatest hits list.
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  I don't know. But there might be a couple on
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  here that people are disagreeing, but I didn't have a
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  hard time. I'm curious, Gavin, how old are
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  you? Because I always feel like I'm
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  the oldest guy on the panel unless I'm afraid of I'm. 55.
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  Oh, shit, you got me beat. OK, all right, all right, That's
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  that's good to know. That's good to know.
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  Because I I always feel like I'm the old man.
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  So it's good to know that I'm only the second oldest man.
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  Yeah, and I'm probably the most immature.
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  So I'm pushing 54 so. There you go.
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  So Brian, you know, now we're here, you've been through the
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  brutality of, you know, the pre rounds, you're here on the at
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  the finals. I mean, are you still glad you
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  signed up? Like, I mean, is it what you
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  thought it was going to be? And when you're looking at this
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  40 like how, how are you plucking out your 15 for this?
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  No, this was this was way more difficult than I thought it
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  would be. It was it was brutal.
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  Like, like I said, you could I could have made a case for so
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  many of these songs. And when I'm so first of all, I
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  don't know, spoiler whatever. You know, there were many times
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  during the other episodes where like where I made where I made
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  concessions and you know, I put a vote in for a song that I
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  hadn't picked that is not reflected on my list.
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  Basically any any any song that all the songs that are on my
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  list have been on my other lists.
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  Nice. Nothing that I conceded to made
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  it so like, I I started with that and I'm just like, you know
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  what, like, you know, was I convinced that some of these
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  songs are better than the ones that I picked or whatever.
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  I was like, no, I wasn't. So yeah, So I and yeah.
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  And, and you know, you know, like, well, like, like John said
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  about, you know, like we're all coming in with different,
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  different points of view and different, like, you know,
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  different ways of seeing it, you know, you know, you know, and
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  like Gavin said, like, you know, we have two older generation X
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  and three younger generation X people here, you know, you know,
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  borderline on, on, but but the next generation, you know, you
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  know, where they were coming into R.E.M. in 84 or 85, like,
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  you know, we were only, you know, 4-5, six years old, you
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  know, so we're coming in like in the 90s.
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  Yeah. You know, so it's, it's that's
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  the balance. I, I, I, I, I did try to work
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  with, you know, because, you know, we're, we are very, I
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  can't even think of the word. We are, we are very ridiculously
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  speaking here for all R.E.M. fans and you know, because
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  because we're, we're five guys who are in their demographic.
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  We are 5 white men in our mid 40s to mid 50s and that's the
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  demographic R.E.M. fan and we're going to, I don't know, we're
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  going to speak for all of them. Was that?
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  We're highly qualified, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
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  We're, I mean, we are highly qualified, I mean.
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  I'm I'm I. Mean, I'm pretty sure you, you
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  know, you know, they don't tour anymore, but you know, you go to
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  an R.E.M. Show right now you're going to
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  see, you know, you know, 5000 people who look just like us.
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  All right, I mean, there's there's no need to beat around
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  the Bush here like and and go go around the table again because
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  we might as well get to the bloodshed I feel.
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  John, where do you want to start?
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  I've, I've thought about this all day and like, I've thought
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  about, you know, some for some of the, the first round
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  episodes, it was like, oh, I'm going to kind of go pick one to
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  kind of gauge and see, you know, let me, let me pick like a
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  little out of left field one to see where everybody's at.
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  But I think for this one, I, I can't, I can't deal with put
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  throwing out something like a, a top one on my list and, and
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  having it not go through right away.
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  That would just, I, I just can't.
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  So I'm going to go, I'm going to start the very beginning
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  chronologically and let's just do radio free Europe.
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  I I tried the this one was not high on my list originally and I
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  had thought about removing it for another song but in the end
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  I I couldn't do it. So Radio Free Europe all.
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  Right, Peter? Yeah, I've got it, Gavin.
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  Yes. Chris.
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  Indeed. And Brian?
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  I do let's. Go.
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  All right. Now that one was on our original
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  list if I'm not mistaken. No, it was not.
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  Oh really? Wow.
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  I remember having it so maybe that's why I thought it was.
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  I will save. You when it was bad.
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  The the ones from the original list that are still in or South
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  Central rain don't go back to Rockville, Man on the moon, fall
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  on me in perfect circle. Those are the five that you had
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  originally. They're still in the the
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  running. OK, I must have, I must have
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  went to bat for Radio Free Europe.
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  And, you know, I didn't know how to really do it yet that early
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  in the show. OK, all right.
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  But it gets through. Unanimous.
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  Didn't think we'd be getting many of those.
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  I'll, I'll say that. So to have one right off the
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  bats, you know, that's a good start.
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  Peter, where you want to go? I'm going to zag a little bit
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  from Ray from Radio Free Europe and I'm going to go with night
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  swimming all. Right, Gavin?
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  No. Chris.
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  I got it. Brian.
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  Yeah, absolutely. And John?
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  Yes. All right, fours are fours.
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  Got a good shot. I mean, again, we skipped all
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  the hullabaloo because there could be lots of arguments even
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  on the fours. So, all right, Gavin, I'm.
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  I took B mine from New adventures.
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  All right, Brian. No, I miss Chris.
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  Oh, yeah, sorry, Chris, I'm. I'm sorry, what was it again?
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  I'm. Sorry B mine.
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  Oh, no, I'm sorry. No, I don't have it.
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  And then, Brian, you already said you didn't, John, no.
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  No, there was, there was 4 songs that I had two spots for and
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  that was one of them and it did not make the cut.
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  And I hate myself because I love that song so much and I but I I
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  can't save you. And one last go edit.
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  Not going in the bin, Peter. I feel so bad because I was the
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  one pushing the hardest for it in that in that episode, but it
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  didn't make my it didn't make my 15.
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  I'm so sorry. Oh.
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  Originally I had all of the new adventures and hi-fi ones, but I
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  did not end up taking them all. Isn't that wild, though, when
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  you think about it, like how hard you you push for it and
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  then, then you get to the to the big boys and it's like, man,
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  shoot, all right, Chris got to go.
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  Yeah, something's got to go. You only get 15.
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  So Chris, where you want to start?
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  Let's go with the ones I don't think anyone's going to have.
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  I I had to stick with my My girl, Kate Pearson, me and
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  Honey. Right, Brian.
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  No, I don't, and I'm not happy about that.
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  John. No, I, I, I gave it an an honest
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  shot, but in the end I just, I just don't think it's in the top
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  15 all. Right, Peter?
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  I'm so sorry, so sorry. And Gavin I.
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  Don't have it either. Hey.
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  Oh see, you're not alone. No, that's right.
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  All right, Brian, all. Right.
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  I'm not. I'm not doing anything.
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  I'm not doing anything ridiculous.
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  I'm going to go for what we're doing here, talking about our
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  passion. All right.
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  Oh, my God. Computer, please keep up with
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  me. Or don't, whatever.
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  There it is. There it is.
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  All right, John. Yes.
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  All right, Peter. I've got it.
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  Gavin, no and Chris? No.
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  Three's not bad after 2-2 ones. All right.
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  Back to you, John. All right, I'm going to go with
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  I talked this song up a lot when we did the the first round, so
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  I'm hoping that that we can we can hit on it again.
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  How about perfect circle? Peter.
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  I don't. Gavin.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Chris.
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  No. And Brian?
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  I really wanted to, but I didn't.
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  This was another one that I was big on when we did the original
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  list. Sorry. 2 is rough for that.
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  That hurts. That's how you know we're in the
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  finals, baby. When when you read off the ones
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  off the original list that are still on the running, that's
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  actually the one where I was like, you know what?
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  I don't think that was going to make it.
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  I'm sad that I was right, but yeah.
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  Hey, we don't know yet. See how it goes.
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  Still wiggle room. I hate it here.
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  Here. All right, Peter.
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  How about fall on me? I should just start typing it in
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  because my computer reacts faster.
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  There we go, Gavin. Yeah, I had to.
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  Oh, I like that, Chris. No, sorry.
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  Brian. Yep.
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  And John? Yes.
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  Hey, those fours can dislodge twos, you know.
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  Again, we'll see when we get there.
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  But Gavin? I couldn't leave Rockville off,
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  you know, as legendary as it is, I had to take it.
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  All right, Rockville, Chris. Yes.
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  All right, Brian. I don't.
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  John. No.
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  And Peter? I forgot it.
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  So 3. Shocker.
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  The shocker from John. Yeah, yeah.
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  That's a three though. 3 is all right, Chris.
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  Oh shit, I feel like I should just keep going with ones that I
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  think are going to be a one. How about how about disturbance
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  and hair in house? Right, Brian.
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  Going to get all my disappointment out of the way.
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  Well. To to keep you to keep you
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  disappointed. I do not have it.
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  All right, John. Yes, that was one of the last
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  ones to make it in. Well, it's nice, Peter.
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  I don't have it. And Gavin?
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  Yeah, I think it's one of their best.
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  Hey all. Right.
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  See, we'll take that 3 and Brian.
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  All right, I'm going to go with the song that Gavin's going to
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  say no to, the one I love. Oh, that's right, yeah.
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  He hates it. All right, John.
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  No, that's the one, that disturbance that the Heron has
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  kicked out. Peters.
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  I've got it. Gavin.
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  I don't, I don't hate it, but I really love the lyrics.
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  But I don't have. It Chris.
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  No, I can't. I almost got rid of it but I
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  can't. That's a three respectable very.
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  Shaky 3. All right, back to John.
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  All right, strange currencies. Oh, Peter.
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  Fuck yeah. Gavin.
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  It could in the end, but I really wish I really loved that
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  song. All right, Chris.
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  No, I'm. Sorry.
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  I just speak, sorry. And Brian?
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  I do have it. So 3.
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  Threes are going to be tough. Yeah, yeah.
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  That's a stronger three than the one I love.
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  I feel like for some reason I don't know why.
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  I totally fell in love with Monster again.
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  Like I know that's record's got a complicated history.
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  That's your record, right Justin?
• 22:06
  Yeah, absolutely. Yep.
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  Yeah, that's a fucking great. Record again, you know, I don't
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  know if I said this in the run of Championship stuff, but I did
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  say this on like the original R.E.M. episode.
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  Monster wasn't my introduction, but it was when they became my
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  band. Even though it was only for one
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  record, it was like I chose that one and that was the one for me.
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  So, all right, let's see. Strange currencies.
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  Was John me. So, Peter, you're up.
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  Let's get this out of the way. Losing my religion all.
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  Right. Oh my God, my dog is snoring.
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  I don't know if you guys can hear me, but he's like right
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  behind me. Gavin.
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  I did not take it, but I can't even really.
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  I mean, I knew everyone else would have it like so I.
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  It's dangerous. That's a dangerous game.
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  Yeah, yeah, I know. Don't mess with me, Gavin, I
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  swear. It's.
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  It's it's fire. It's a that that song is like,
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  so it's supernaturally great. I just it'd take it.
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  Yeah, Chris. I almost cut it for the same
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  reasons, but I ended up keeping it for the reasons everyone else
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  is like, yeah, don't play that game, don't play that game.
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  So yeah, I kept it. I got it.
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  All right, Brian. Oh yeah, we're on top.
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  Favorite songs of all time. It's got to be there for me.
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  And John? Yes.
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  So he ended up being right. Yep.
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  So that's good and. Poker.
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  Yeah, that gives you some wiggle room for some play later.
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  Yeah. All right, Gavin.
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  And I tried to shake driver 8 off my list and I I couldn't get
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  rid. Of it.
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  All right, Chris. I feel genuinely bad about that
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  one, but no I don't, sorry. Brian.
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  No, I don't have it. Shit, that's such a great song.
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  I know. I don't feel bad.
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  No, in the end it it I think it's just two one-dimensional.
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  No, not that that's a bad thing. It does what it does very well.
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  It up against some of these other songs that didn't stand
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  up. Yeah, it's the, it's the part,
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  the chorus is not the part for me.
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  It's all the other shit they do in that song that like, keeps it
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  alive for me, you know? And Peter if?
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  This were top 20 it'd be on my list, but it's not.
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  Driver eight in the trash. In the bin again, the brutality
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  of of a championship edition. And the, the that's the problem
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  with this. It's, you know, a lot of these,
• 25:16
  it's like somebody's one of their favorites.
• 25:19
  But then for four other guys, it's like, Nah, yeah, no, it's
• 25:22
  like #17 so. Yeah.
• 25:27
  All right, Chris. Let's see, how about I've been
• 25:32
  doing all these other ones? Let's try something that's got a
• 25:35
  better shot. What's the frequency, Kenneth?
• 25:42
  Brian No. That's one of the songs that I
• 25:45
  make in sessions for during the first time, and I did not put it
• 25:49
  this time. All right.
• 25:51
  John no Peter. No.
• 25:59
  And Gavin? No, that was a hard cut.
• 26:02
  Man I love that song. Shit.
• 26:05
  I didn't expect. You.
• 26:07
  No, no, no. Hold on, hold on.
• 26:09
  I didn't. Expect.
• 26:10
  Hold on that. Hold on.
• 26:11
  What's the frequency? Kenneth only had four votes in
• 26:14
  the original episode, and then I got pressure to put another vote
• 26:18
  on it and you all didn't take it.
• 26:24
  That's how it goes, man. It's a different.
• 26:26
  This is a different animal. Yeah.
• 26:28
  Yeah, we planned this. Yeah, totally different.
• 26:33
  All right, Brian. Sorry.
• 26:38
  Yeah. All right, so I made fun of your
• 26:43
  original list for having this song on it.
• 26:45
  Ended up taking it anyway. Orange Crush.
• 26:48
  Hey, all right, John. No, Peter.
• 26:55
  Interesting. Whoa.
• 26:58
  Gavin. I do not.
• 27:01
  And Chris? That's that's the one I brought
• 27:04
  back just a few minutes ago before we started and I was
• 27:08
  like, why isn't this dog on it? And this other song is so yeah,
• 27:12
  I have it. It's a two.
• 27:14
  It's. A great song.
• 27:19
  All right, it doesn't sound like has much of a shot, but it's got
• 27:22
  two. It doesn't go right to the bend
• 27:24
  at least. All right, we're back around to
• 27:26
  you, John. We're getting.
• 27:26
  Let's see, we're about halfway, I think.
• 27:31
  Yeah, still got 7. Yeah.
• 27:34
  So I mentioned I originally had taken everything off of New
• 27:37
  Adventures that was available and I did not end up with that,
• 27:42
  but I did take this one electrolyte.
• 27:46
  Peter. Yeah, I've got it.
• 27:49
  All right, Gavin. How's a tough cut all right?
• 27:54
  Chris. No.
• 27:57
  And Brian? I do not.
• 28:00
  Feel like there's a lot. Yeah.
• 28:02
  I was going to say, I feel like there's a lot more harder lines
• 28:04
  with with this. Like I feel like there was a ton
• 28:08
  of threes, fours, more, more threes I've or I mean fours in
• 28:14
  the the prior rounds. I feel like there's going to be
• 28:16
  a lot of twos here and ones here because people drew lines.
• 28:22
  All right, Peter. How about drive?
• 28:34
  Gavin. I don't have it, but I but you
• 28:39
  guys inspired me on a number of songs like dry.
• 28:42
  I went back and listened to it and I like, I really appreciate
• 28:46
  that song a lot more than I did before this panel.
• 28:48
  And also country feedback and low.
• 28:54
  I think I think they're too long, but I totally got into
• 28:59
  those two. Drive, Chris.
• 29:05
  No alert. I know, right?
• 29:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm sorry.
• 29:08
  I don't have that. Brian I.
• 29:12
  Feel it. This is one that I fought for
• 29:15
  because I wanted 5 songs from Automatic.
• 29:18
  Yeah. And I didn't make it because I
• 29:20
  thought I had too many songs from Automatic so.
• 29:25
  See. All right.
• 29:28
  I just, I just yelled at all of you and then I did the same
• 29:30
  thing. Yeah, John.
• 29:35
  I can't save you. There's going to be a lot of
• 29:38
  that. I feel a lot of that down to the
• 29:41
  wire bin. All right, Gavin.
• 29:49
  OK, the song that no one will have.
• 29:52
  Did anybody take exhuming McCarthy from document?
• 29:56
  Chris. No, sorry.
• 29:59
  That was that was a tough cut. Brian.
• 30:04
  I I didn't, but I totally respect that pick.
• 30:10
  It's one of my favorite songs on document.
• 30:13
  John No. And Peter?
• 30:19
  Sorry. Boom boom boom.
• 30:25
  Good Lord computer, Chris. Some of these tubes might have a
• 30:31
  chance. I know, right?
• 30:36
  Perfect circle, just saying. You know.
• 30:39
  Yeah. All right, Chris, where you want
• 30:41
  to go? Am I?
• 30:42
  Yep. Let's see, how about gardening
• 30:47
  at night? G Yeah.
• 30:51
  Oh, sorry. No, you're fine.
• 30:55
  That was a yes from you. Yeah, yeah, I had a.
• 30:59
  Pre. Whatever I want to say it.
• 31:04
  All right, John. No, Peter.
• 31:10
  I've got it. And Gavin?
• 31:14
  Yeah, I've got it. Nice.
• 31:16
  All right, there we go. You take that 4.
• 31:19
  Oh yeah. Brian All right, I'm going to go
• 31:30
  to a different automatic long since I didn't take drive Man on
• 31:37
  the moon. John no Peter.
• 31:49
  I've got it. Gavin.
• 31:53
  I don't. And Chris?
• 31:56
  I got it. That's one of my favorites. 3
• 32:04
  hanging on to life. My favorite song that has my
• 32:07
  name in it. Elvis.
• 32:12
  Yeah, All right. We're back around to you, John.
• 32:20
  All right. Oh man, I'm so scared to begin
• 32:25
  any of these. Let's just go with South Central
• 32:29
  rain. Yeah.
• 32:31
  All right. Peter, sorry, getting out of
• 32:33
  myself. I got it.
• 32:35
  Gavin. Yes.
• 32:38
  Chris. Hell yeah.
• 32:41
  And. Sorry.
• 32:42
  Of course, yeah. Of course, 100 and million
• 32:47
  percent. Hey, wow, that means we did
• 32:50
  something right on that first list.
• 32:52
  Let me queue that up or don't whatever, computer man, like,
• 33:02
  make me feel like a fool. It's cool.
• 33:06
  I just rhymed right on time. Look, I mean, considering where
• 33:12
  this has been, the fact that there's two that got through
• 33:15
  unanimously, that's I feel like that's big.
• 33:20
  I mean, it also says a lot about those songs.
• 33:23
  Yeah. All right.
• 33:26
  Boom boom boom and Peter. I've only got 2 left and I know
• 33:34
  Gavin's not going to have this country feedback.
• 33:40
  Spoilers. I don't but but but respect.
• 33:44
  Really cool song. Yeah, Chris.
• 33:47
  I wanted to keep all of all that time, but that's the one I cut.
• 33:50
  I'm sorry. And Brian?
• 33:54
  No. And John?
• 33:58
  Yeah, I I still think that's the best R.E.M.
• 34:00
  Song Well, OK, well, you take the two, then maybe it can fight
• 34:05
  its way in. That's a two that I'd fight back
• 34:08
  for. That's a great song.
• 34:10
  I I yeah, like I said, I wanted to keep it.
• 34:16
  All right, Gavin. Another one I'll probably be all
• 34:24
  alone on. I took finest work song from
• 34:27
  document. Chris.
• 34:31
  No, sorry. Brian.
• 34:35
  I got it. Nice.
• 34:37
  John. No.
• 34:41
  And Peter? No.
• 34:44
  Gavin and I were hand in hand on a lot of these through the 1st
• 34:48
  bunch of rounds. I feel bad this time, yeah.
• 34:50
  Yeah. All right, Chris.
• 34:57
  All right, let's see, how about Sidewinder sleeps tonight?
• 35:03
  Brian. No.
• 35:06
  The annoyance of John. No.
• 35:12
  Peter. No and.
• 35:16
  And Gavin? I got you.
• 35:18
  I love that song. Thank.
• 35:19
  Thank you. I thought Automatic for the
• 35:21
  People was your record. Peter, come on.
• 35:24
  It is if it, if it, if it were up to me, like that whole record
• 35:31
  would be the fucking top 10. Oh boy.
• 35:37
  All right, Brian, it's your pick.
• 35:49
  Oh, sorry, yeah, maps and legends.
• 35:58
  John. Yes, added it back on today.
• 36:04
  Wow, you don't hear that from John a lot, Peter.
• 36:11
  No. Gavin I don't, but it's a great
• 36:16
  song. And Chris?
• 36:18
  It is a great song. That's the one where I was like
• 36:22
  why is this on my list and not Orange Crush?
• 36:24
  So I got it. Both of those with Brian,
• 36:29
  interestingly enough. All right, if Peter's got 1, you
• 36:36
  got to be getting down to the nitty gritty here too, John,
• 36:38
  right? I've still got 3.
• 36:41
  OK, so we'll just keep going. Where do you want to go now?
• 36:53
  World leader pretend. Peter.
• 36:58
  Nope. Gavin I.
• 37:02
  Was wondering if that was going to make your final list.
• 37:04
  I didn't take it, but you had a good argument for it.
• 37:08
  All right, Chris. I'd I'd asked you guys to give
• 37:10
  it a second chance, yes. And you were predicting your
• 37:14
  last show up in the final list. It's going to sound like no one
• 37:19
  did. We'll see.
• 37:22
  Chris. No I'm sorry, I wanted one off
• 37:26
  of green and I like orange brush better.
• 37:29
  And Brian? Wow, I was with John on this in
• 37:33
  the episode and but I didn't take it this time.
• 37:37
  That's brutal. Yeah, it is.
• 37:39
  It's it's tough because I don't know.
• 37:42
  I I can't even tell you why I cut it.
• 37:45
  Yeah, because you only have 15. Yeah, because you only have 15,
• 37:48
  that's why. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:52
  All right, Peter. This is my last one, I'm pretty
• 37:56
  sure it's going to go straight to the bend, but I still love
• 37:59
  it. It's the great beyond.
• 38:03
  Gavin I. Don't.
• 38:07
  Chris. No.
• 38:10
  Brian. This is another song that I
• 38:12
  fought for to make the list, but I didn't take it.
• 38:18
  And John? No.
• 38:21
  See, I mean, it does make you think about, like, when you're
• 38:23
  fighting for these songs to get on those initial 10s, how do
• 38:29
  they stand up against the big boys?
• 38:31
  I mean, it's obvious Peter would have had it no matter what.
• 38:35
  But, you know, makes you think, all right, great.
• 38:40
  Beyond was Peter's last one. So, Gavin.
• 38:44
  All right, guys, this one's going to hurt.
• 38:48
  I need to see I believe make the list off pageant all.
• 38:57
  Right. I thought Chris was laughing for
• 38:59
  a second, but you know, he was he.
• 39:01
  Was just not acting up along that was just a that was just a
• 39:04
  cough. I, I can't, I can't help you
• 39:06
  though. I haven't got it.
• 39:07
  All right, Brian. No, I don't.
• 39:11
  No, John. No.
• 39:15
  Oh, you know, Peter's already. I believe in the crash.
• 39:19
  Unbelievable. Just crazy.
• 39:22
  It's just crazy. I don't.
• 39:26
  That's crazy. I don't see it on the list.
• 39:30
  The finals list. Oh wait, there it is.
• 39:33
  Never mind, My bad, my bad. That was a hard one, that banjo.
• 39:40
  Oh, if it was 20 I'd have it for sure.
• 39:45
  All right, Chris. I got 2 left.
• 39:49
  I don't know which one to pick. I got to go without a time
• 39:52
  because that's my favorite record low.
• 39:56
  Brian. No, I don't have low, and that's
• 40:01
  another song that I fought for. John.
• 40:07
  No. You know, Peters out and Gavin.
• 40:11
  I don't have it. That's a cool song.
• 40:13
  Into the bin, Brian. When we were doing that list,
• 40:22
  Low is one of the songs going up against radio song.
• 40:28
  Yeah. Everyone was picking low over
• 40:33
  radio song. Yeah.
• 40:37
  Yeah, all right, I got. Gavin's the only one that had my
• 40:39
  back on radio song. He put up a strong argument for
• 40:42
  that song. Never had one.
• 40:44
  Everyone was like Nope. All right, I got, I got 2 left.
• 40:56
  Everybody hurts. Sometimes.
• 40:59
  Sometimes. Right now.
• 41:01
  Yeah, John. No.
• 41:06
  You know, Peter's out, Gavin. No.
• 41:10
  And Chris? No.
• 41:13
  Wow. That was for.
• 41:15
  Well, and that was the one. The argument was, you know, we
• 41:18
  could hear any bands sing that song.
• 41:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:22
  And and that that kept it off my my top 15 because I do love that
• 41:27
  song a lot. But your earlier arguments,
• 41:32
  yeah, killed it for me. All right, we are getting down
• 41:38
  to it, John. All right, let's throw out
• 41:45
  Cuyahoga. All right, Gavin, you.
• 41:50
  Don't have it. I love this song.
• 41:52
  Chris. No.
• 41:54
  I almost brought that one back, but no.
• 41:58
  And Brian? I don't.
• 42:01
  Cuyahoga in the bin. All right, Gavin.
• 42:09
  Clearly this is probably going to make the number one with a
• 42:11
  bullet. Yeah.
• 42:14
  I chose pilgrimage off Murmur. Chris.
• 42:20
  No, it's a good song, you know. Sorry.
• 42:23
  And Brian? Don't have it?
• 42:26
  And John? Nope, the one that I have left
• 42:30
  is from Murmur, but it's not that one.
• 42:34
  Boy, so we're down to like basically everybody's last 1, I
• 42:37
  think. Yeah.
• 42:39
  All right, Chris. This is my last one and off
• 42:45
  Chronic Town. I love that little record bridge
• 42:48
  lower. Wow.
• 42:52
  Boy. I love that song so much.
• 42:56
  Who was it? I missed it.
• 42:57
  Wolves lower. Wolves lower.
• 42:59
  Oh no, I don't have it. John, we know.
• 43:02
  Actually, we know. John doesn't have it.
• 43:05
  Yeah, that that's one that I agonized about all week.
• 43:07
  But in the end, it was not. It's not.
• 43:10
  Didn't make it feel great about it.
• 43:14
  And then Gavin. No, but I love that that made
• 43:17
  your final list. That's.
• 43:18
  Awesome. Yeah, all.
• 43:20
  Right. So we know that Chris and Peter
• 43:23
  are out now and you're down to your last one, right, Ryan?
• 43:26
  Yes, these days. We know that John doesn't have
• 43:34
  it because he's already given us the spoiler and Gavin.
• 43:40
  I don't, but that's a great pig. Love that song.
• 43:42
  All right, so Brian is out. And John, what's your last one?
• 43:50
  Sitting still. Gavin.
• 43:54
  You know it. Hey.
• 43:57
  Well, you know what? I'm really glad.
• 43:59
  Glad we kept that stupid all the way to Rido song over radio
• 44:04
  song. I'm really glad we we, we landed
• 44:06
  on that, that song that nobody fucking nobody fucking picked.
• 44:12
  I I wouldn't have picked radio song for the.
• 44:15
  For this either. Yeah, to be fair, yeah, I
• 44:19
  wouldn't pick radio song for this either.
• 44:20
  Wasn't wasn't really unanimous. Yeah, I think so.
• 44:25
  No, it had. It only had four.
• 44:27
  Wow. All right.
• 44:29
  Just for clerical reasons. Are you all out, Gavin?
• 44:34
  Yes. OK, so we covered everything but
• 44:37
  bittersweet Me Harbor code all the way to Reno.
• 44:39
  What if we gave it away and walk on?
• 44:40
  Afraid those are the only ones that nobody went to bat for.
• 44:45
  All right, so 2 are in Radio Free Europe and South Central
• 44:48
  Rain. That's a hot start.
• 44:53
  We've got 1234 fours. Do we take all the fours and
• 45:00
  then start working on the threes and twos?
• 45:04
  Let's look at these four. Let's look at these fours.
• 45:07
  Night swimming, fall on me, losing my religion, gardening at
• 45:10
  night. Those are the, the, I mean, what
• 45:17
  do you think, John? Like, do we?
• 45:19
  I mean, considering how this went, you know, Fours 4 seems
• 45:25
  like a really, really good shot. Yeah, I mean, I was, I was in on
• 45:34
  all of them except gardening at night.
• 45:39
  I mean, if you take all four, you still have four more songs
• 45:43
  that you can add. I would say I'm not saying no to
• 45:51
  all four, but I would say at least 3.
• 45:54
  OK. Peter, you're in on all four of
• 45:57
  these. Do you do you feel like still
• 46:00
  all four of them should go in at this point?
• 46:03
  Oh yeah, absolutely. OK, and then I see Gavin, you're
• 46:07
  out on night swimming and losing my religion.
• 46:13
  Do you think because looking at these these fours, do you think
• 46:18
  this is a a place to concede and just allow or do you think some
• 46:23
  of these fours just kind of got fours by proxy?
• 46:27
  Well, I'd say you take the 2 interesting songs and you leave
• 46:32
  off the 2 greatest hits. But having said that, the
• 46:37
  greatest hits are great for a reason.
• 46:40
  Yeah, yeah, there. You know something to that.
• 46:44
  The only one you weren't in on Chris was Fall on me.
• 46:50
  Is is that a sword you would die on?
• 46:52
  Like you'd fall on this one? Fall on it.
• 46:55
  Hey, yo. No, no, I wouldn't.
• 46:57
  I wouldn't fall on that. I that's that's fine with me.
• 47:02
  And then I'm looking at Brian, you had all four of these as
• 47:04
  well. I and you almost immediately
• 47:07
  said yeah, we should take all four.
• 47:09
  Yeah, they all belong there. OK, So Gavin is is putting
• 47:17
  forward essentially saying fall on me guarding at night and then
• 47:22
  we we come back. John, you were saying at least
• 47:25
  three, right? I'm assuming we meant were the
• 47:28
  three that you were on. Yeah, I, I really just want to
• 47:33
  leave. I mean, honestly my my thought
• 47:37
  is I, I want perfect circle and country feedback.
• 47:39
  So my thought is let's leave space so that I can fight for
• 47:43
  those later. All right, so well then, So what
• 47:50
  if we All right, let's look at these threes next.
• 47:53
  What do we got here, 123456 Let's look at these threes and
• 47:58
  see which one of these threes belong, you know, with the
• 48:01
  fours, not putting them in, just adding them into that four
• 48:05
  conversation. So we got talk about the passion
• 48:07
  Rockville disturbance at the Heron House, the one I love,
• 48:12
  strange currencies and man on the moon.
• 48:15
  Now, when you look at like Peter, like a, you know, the,
• 48:18
  the big hits, the the one I love man on the moon, you know, when
• 48:22
  we're looking at these as threes, does that kind of sway
• 48:25
  you against, you know, pushing them in or does that give you
• 48:29
  more of a reason to want to kind of fight to get them in?
• 48:36
  I mean, there's part of me that doesn't want it to be a greatest
• 48:42
  hits list, but Man on the Moon is a fucking good song.
• 48:47
  And I don't know, like, I can see a place for that.
• 48:54
  I can see a place for South Central rain.
• 48:57
  I can see a place for wait. South Central rain is in.
• 49:00
  Yes. You mean Rockville?
• 49:02
  Rockville. Rockville and I could also make
• 49:05
  a case for strange currencies. Yeah.
• 49:08
  Talk about the passion too, is there.
• 49:12
  What do you think, Kevin, when, when, when you're looking at
• 49:14
  these threes, like is it again like you're looking at, you
• 49:19
  know, hits versus versus, you know, deep cut?
• 49:23
  For me it is, yeah. Peter or I'm sorry, Chris, I I
• 49:30
  was reading backwards. Chris, when you're when you're
• 49:32
  looking at these threes, is there ones that you really feel
• 49:35
  like belong at least in this next level of conversation?
• 49:39
  Yeah, don't go back to Rockville.
• 49:41
  Absolutely. OK, All right.
• 49:44
  I like that definitive station statement.
• 49:46
  So let's work on Rockville. Brian, you were out on
• 49:50
  Rockville. Is that just that you didn't
• 49:53
  have enough room or is that just a no?
• 49:55
  It really doesn't belong it. Was kind of more I didn't have
• 50:00
  enough room. OK, like the only it's tough
• 50:08
  because these other threes I would, I would like fight for.
• 50:14
  I fight for. I mean, talk about the passion.
• 50:17
  I felt like, I don't know. It's tough too, because these
• 50:21
  other threes are all like radio single, like man on the moon,
• 50:25
  the one I love, strange currencies.
• 50:27
  Talk about the passion. Those four are all like radio
• 50:31
  hits. I don't think Strange Currencies
• 50:35
  was a radio. No.
• 50:38
  No, I don't think so. It.
• 50:41
  It got some play. Yeah, it.
• 50:43
  Was like the fourth or fifth single off of that thing.
• 50:46
  It was Kenneth Crusher, the eyeliner.
• 50:47
  Bang and blame. Yeah.
• 50:51
  Then they brought it back a little bit with the bear.
• 50:54
  Yeah, but that was like 2 years ago.
• 50:56
  Yeah, I. Don't know, man.
• 51:01
  See, this is, this is, this is. Yeah, yeah, I already went
• 51:06
  through this. I make my list.
• 51:07
  Yeah. We did like.
• 51:10
  That's why I chose those four over like Rockville.
• 51:14
  So like so it's so now I'm like, would I do it again?
• 51:19
  And it's and pardon me, is like saying like, yeah, I would like
• 51:22
  I would take those four Rockville again and
• 51:28
  disappearance because I was I was out on that one too.
• 51:31
  So it's then I do the thing like, oh, should I just toss on
• 51:41
  an earbud and listen to it? But that that never helps.
• 51:45
  I can I can pass the buck on Rockville for now to to John
• 51:48
  because John was out on it as well.
• 51:50
  It does Rockville scratch the the radio hit itch.
• 51:55
  And I mean, does that make, you know, religion?
• 51:58
  And what's the other four? What was the other 4?
• 52:05
  Follow me. Yeah, follow me.
• 52:07
  Like, does it, does it, does it kind of make those hits a little
• 52:12
  bit more expendable? No, I don't think.
• 52:16
  I don't think Rockville, I don't want to say deserves as pop, but
• 52:21
  I don't think it's I don't think it's needed on this list.
• 52:24
  I think there's other songs that that represent them better.
• 52:30
  I think of the threes I would say Talk About the Passion and
• 52:33
  Strange Currencies were the 1 would be the ones I would fight
• 52:36
  for. All right, so passions getting a
• 52:40
  a lot of play here. So let's look at that next.
• 52:44
  Gavin, you didn't have talk about the passion.
• 52:47
  So it's not my favorite song on Murmur and and I I would flip
• 52:52
  perfect Circle and talk about the passion like they're they're
• 52:56
  perfect Circles are their first beautiful song.
• 52:59
  Yeah, I agree. I'd swap those for sure and try
• 53:05
  to and try to fight for perfect circle.
• 53:09
  All right, so I mean, do do we So you know, Brian, you, you
• 53:16
  talked about talk about the passion a lot.
• 53:18
  Is that something that we'd be willing to do here?
• 53:21
  Drop passion out of conversation here and and again not putting
• 53:26
  in the list but bring perfect circle into the conversation.
• 53:33
  Not for that song. I I never had perfect circle.
• 53:41
  I did have talk about the passion.
• 53:43
  So, yeah, yeah. I'm going to, I wouldn't put it
• 53:46
  above talk about the passion. I mean, I know we're talking
• 53:49
  like a three versus 2. It's very, you know, these are
• 53:54
  all on a, these are all like, like on a wire, like all of.
• 53:58
  Yeah. I I don't like it here.
• 54:03
  Right. Yeah, if.
• 54:04
  I conceded on fall on me. I never had that on either of
• 54:07
  the Steelers, so yeah. Yeah.
• 54:09
  So we're really not making any progress, right?
• 54:13
  Nailed down a four. If we.
• 54:16
  Just toss those. Toss those fours right in there.
• 54:19
  See. The let's let's put night
• 54:21
  swimming in. At least night swimming is
• 54:22
  great. Do you have any hesitation on
• 54:24
  night swimming Gavin? At this point I would.
• 54:28
  Flip I would flip Perfect circle for night swimming again.
• 54:31
  It's a beautiful song and Perfect Circles a better
• 54:34
  beautiful song. See, I disagree.
• 54:38
  See, you know, you know, I, I feel like, I feel like we can't,
• 54:44
  you know, everybody with this, everybody has to agree.
• 54:47
  I feel like sure concessions will be made, but like it has to
• 54:51
  be convincing concessions. My is like I'm worried that like
• 54:58
  this top ten would end up just being all IRS songs and like
• 55:03
  we're pushing out like all like the 90s and 2000 stuff.
• 55:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:10
  Again, I mean I I would get rid of passion for our fucking
• 55:15
  country feedback. Yeah, see.
• 55:20
  Yeah, I'm all in on perfect circle and country feedback.
• 55:25
  All right, so let. Well, OK, we need to find the we
• 55:29
  need to find things that don't belong here.
• 55:31
  OK, so let's look at these twos and see which one of these
• 55:35
  actually have a chance here. Perfect circles come up a lot.
• 55:38
  Country feedback has come up a lot.
• 55:40
  What are these other twos we got?
• 55:42
  Orange Crush, Electrolyte, Finest Work Song, Sidewinder
• 55:45
  Sleeps Tonight, Maps and Legends and Sitting Still of those are
• 55:52
  the only ones that really stand a chance at this point.
• 55:55
  Perfect Circle and country feedback.
• 55:57
  I'm going to go to you, Gavin. Yeah.
• 56:00
  Can you read that one more time? I think there was one that stood
• 56:02
  out to me. OK, sure.
• 56:04
  Perfect circle. Orange Crush, electrolyte,
• 56:07
  Country feedback, Finest work song, Sidewinder Sleeps Tonight,
• 56:11
  Maps and Legends and Sitting Still.
• 56:14
  I'm fine with that. So doing perfect circle and
• 56:20
  country feedback is the only ones.
• 56:21
  Again, not pushing anything in, just the only ones still in the
• 56:26
  conversation. OK.
• 56:27
  Just clarifying, Chris. So we're talking just twos,
• 56:33
  right? The only, the only two that I
• 56:35
  really like would fight for, I have no energy to fight is
• 56:41
  Sidewalk. I love that song so fucking
• 56:43
  much. OK.
• 56:44
  All right. So you know, Brian, that opens
• 56:49
  up a third two that would just continue in the conversation.
• 56:53
  At this point when you're looking at those twos, would you
• 56:56
  be ready, ready and willing to just lie all those twos down
• 57:00
  other than the three that have come up?
• 57:05
  Yeah, I mean, I, I would see, he said.
• 57:17
  He said sidewalk. Yes.
• 57:18
  No, you're you know, you're going to like push my buttons
• 57:23
  when you say an automatic song. And then we got, I mean, if
• 57:30
  we're talking about about just dropping the other twos and just
• 57:33
  letting them, letting them be, you know, dead into the bin,
• 57:37
  yes, that would be finest work song, right?
• 57:40
  Maps and legends Orange crush. Electrolyte.
• 57:44
  Electrolyte. And sitting still.
• 57:46
  Sitting still. Yeah, I'd be fine.
• 57:49
  I mean, I'm, I'm a little surprised by Finest Work Song,
• 57:53
  but I mean, I'm not going to drag another song into this.
• 57:56
  So yeah, I'm fine just cutting all those off.
• 58:01
  What do you think, John, When? I'm dead.
• 58:04
  See, to me, like Sidewinder does not belong.
• 58:08
  Like that's a fun song, but I do not think it's one of their
• 58:11
  best. Like it was put on automatic
• 58:13
  just to balance out the the heaviness of of the other stuff.
• 58:17
  Like I consider that like one of those like happy to be here
• 58:21
  songs. I I would not put that anywhere
• 58:23
  near the top 10. All right, but would you be
• 58:26
  willing to just, you know, let everything else, you know,
• 58:30
  perfect circle country feedback, those, you know, those be the
• 58:33
  ones that are still alive, OK. Yeah, Peter.
• 58:39
  I hate to throw a wrench into this, but I would make a case
• 58:44
  for electrolyte all. Right all right so let's get
• 58:52
  orange Crush finest work song maps and legends sitting still
• 58:55
  out all right we'll start there. The the two that have already
• 59:02
  been vocalized against or sidewinder sleeps tonight.
• 59:07
  Chris went, you know, threw that out there as you know, 1.
• 59:10
  He wanted to bring to this next level.
• 59:13
  Brian said automatic for the people.
• 59:15
  I'm you know, I'm willing to go to bat for it.
• 59:17
  John said it's it feels good to be here, but it should be out.
• 59:22
  Peter, where? Where do you feel on Sidewinder
• 59:24
  sleeps tonight? Had a good run.
• 59:29
  I love the song, but I mean there's better songs here I
• 59:33
  think. OK.
• 59:35
  And Gavin Sidewinder sleeps the night.
• 59:40
  I'm fine with it going. It made my list.
• 59:43
  It made my top list. I think it's I think it's better
• 59:45
  than just a fun like Yogi song. I think it's I think it's a
• 59:49
  really weird song and interesting only they could have
• 59:54
  written, but I'm cool with it. I didn't have.
• 59:58
  I could feel it didn't have the. Doesn't have the votes.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah. So before I give you, you know,
• 1:00:04
  your final push here, Chris, I know you said you don't you
• 1:00:06
  don't have any fight left. You know, I feel like at this
• 1:00:12
  point, at this point, it got more fight than the four that
• 1:00:16
  already just ducked out. Is do you think at this point,
• 1:00:19
  now that it's gotten a little bit more play, you know, it's
• 1:00:23
  it's happy to be here, or do you think there's more you can say
• 1:00:25
  that you can kind of sway the other guys?
• 1:00:28
  No, I'm I already tried swaying guys on other songs and lost.
• 1:00:33
  I'm I'm not going to try. OK.
• 1:00:36
  Because I, I, I I don't have the.
• 1:00:39
  I don't have the umph to make a case.
• 1:00:43
  All right, so then not. Not for this song anymore.
• 1:00:45
  Right, I'll give you this. The first crack at electrolyte
• 1:00:48
  here. Peter threw the wrench.
• 1:00:49
  You know, last go around it, it came up at the last minute.
• 1:00:54
  I mean, something going for it. It's new adventures, you know,
• 1:00:57
  keep that in mind. Is electrolyte something that we
• 1:01:01
  should be looking at here? You got first crack, Chris.
• 1:01:09
  Oh, me, yeah. No, no, I don't.
• 1:01:12
  I don't give a shit about electrolyte.
• 1:01:14
  Oh. Damn.
• 1:01:16
  No, I honestly, I mean, oh. That's how you really do.
• 1:01:18
  I I don't, I don't hate it. It's a good song, but didn't
• 1:01:23
  make my list. So, you know, yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Heavy words there from Chris Brian like.
• 1:01:31
  Yeah, I mean, no hate against it, I'm fine song.
• 1:01:36
  But, but Brian, do you think, do you think electrolyte belongs
• 1:01:40
  amongst, you know, again, this is really just bumping it up to
• 1:01:43
  a three like it's it's fighting for it's like that to hang out.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah, Nah. So I mean, I, you know, I, sorry
• 1:01:55
  to be blunt, but no. All right, we'll go to Gavin
• 1:01:59
  because Gavin didn't have electrolyte on his initial list.
• 1:02:03
  Electrolyte does. Does it belong in the in these,
• 1:02:05
  at least in the threes level of the conversation?
• 1:02:08
  No, I'm good for it to go. I think it's a really cool song.
• 1:02:11
  I have the seven inch of it. I really like it a lot.
• 1:02:13
  I don't think it's a top tier R.E.M. song, but it's a really
• 1:02:18
  cool song. But I'm good for it to sit down.
• 1:02:23
  All right. And John, I mean you, you had it
• 1:02:26
  on your initial list is you know, is it happy to be here?
• 1:02:31
  Yeah, I mean, I, I, I love new adventures, but the way this
• 1:02:36
  played out, I think it's it's third behind perfect circle and
• 1:02:42
  country feedback with it, which is nothing to to sneeze at that
• 1:02:45
  that's that's high quality company.
• 1:02:47
  But in in this case, I, I, I wouldn't I wouldn't fight for it
• 1:02:52
  with the other stuff that we have all.
• 1:02:54
  Right. You have a last gasp here,
• 1:02:57
  Peter, or you can you can hear the momentum sway.
• 1:03:00
  It's the it's up to you. But I, I think John just made a
• 1:03:05
  great point. You know, it, it got run here,
• 1:03:09
  you know, it's not like it got ran out of town with little to
• 1:03:12
  no talk. You know, people were forced to
• 1:03:14
  give reasons why they would or wouldn't get behind it.
• 1:03:17
  So I'll leave it to you. Do you do you lay down or or do
• 1:03:21
  you still feel like it's got more legs?
• 1:03:24
  I mean, I personally do, but I'll lay down because it's four
• 1:03:29
  against one at this point. All right, so now let's start
• 1:03:35
  tackling these threes. We're moving perfect circle and
• 1:03:39
  country feedback into the threes, right?
• 1:03:45
  Yeah. You know, I'm going to put an X
• 1:03:48
  instead of a one just to show that it wasn't one that got
• 1:03:52
  voted for. It was.
• 1:03:54
  We're getting rid of the rest of the twos.
• 1:03:56
  Yes, all the twos are officially out, so I can shift these threes
• 1:04:03
  and we got to do kind of the same thing with the threes.
• 1:04:06
  We need to, we need to look at what really stands a chance in
• 1:04:09
  the conversation. Or do we cut a four?
• 1:04:12
  Or are all fours still alive? All.
• 1:04:15
  Right, let's see, this is where I'm at with fours and threes
• 1:04:18
  because not to beat a dead horse radio song was a four.
• 1:04:23
  It got bumped for a three. So I'm going to go.
• 1:04:27
  If a four is going to get cut, it should be fall on me and
• 1:04:31
  bring back country feedback or Rockville.
• 1:04:34
  OK, All right. Chris has posited dropping
• 1:04:39
  following me as a four Brian for country feedback.
• 1:04:46
  What was the other one Rockville?
• 1:04:50
  Now you've, you've kind of already said your piece on
• 1:04:51
  Rockville, Brian, You know, would would country feedback
• 1:04:58
  stand a better chance as a four? Yeah, but I wouldn't fall on me
• 1:05:06
  for it. They fall on me.
• 1:05:10
  It's it's like it's got that good classic poppy bouncy R.E.M.
• 1:05:19
  It's like, I think it's like our only like upbeat we have we have
• 1:05:24
  going here like those are gonna count like Radio Free Europe,
• 1:05:30
  like just like the bounciness and like, I don't know, fall on
• 1:05:36
  me is is. Rockville is definitely bouncier
• 1:05:40
  than Fall on me. Yeah, gardening at night is
• 1:05:43
  bouncy. I mean, you could say losing my
• 1:05:44
  religion too. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Oh shit, I forgot about gardening at night.
• 1:05:49
  Was that a four? Yeah, yeah, that was a four,
• 1:05:50
  yeah. Yeah, that's a four.
• 1:05:54
  That's a great song. Man, well, now I want country.
• 1:06:00
  Well, now I want, I don't know now.
• 1:06:03
  Now I'm back on like country feedback in Rockville.
• 1:06:06
  But I don't want to. Lose.
• 1:06:12
  You don't want to lose Fall on me yet.
• 1:06:14
  I don't want to fall on me yet I I really don't want to lose.
• 1:06:18
  I'm looking at the other three like I really don't want to lose
• 1:06:20
  man on. But then part of me thinks like,
• 1:06:26
  and yeah, man, the moon's kind of a fun song.
• 1:06:28
  I mean, it's, it's got an Elvis impression in it.
• 1:06:35
  I don't know. I still want to lose.
• 1:06:36
  I just don't want to lose the, that's all.
• 1:06:39
  That's. What I was, you know, let's
• 1:06:42
  leave the fours alone. Let's see which of these threes
• 1:06:44
  belong with those fours. And you know, just for a record,
• 1:06:48
  there's four fours, 12345678 threes.
• 1:06:55
  So all right, what do we got? Talk about the passion.
• 1:06:59
  Don't go back to Rockville. Disturbance at the Heron house,
• 1:07:02
  the one I love. Strange currencies, man on the
• 1:07:04
  moon, perfect circle and country feedback.
• 1:07:08
  Is there a three that you're looking at here, John?
• 1:07:09
  That's like, man, like, you know, you look at the twos that
• 1:07:14
  we just dumped out, right? And and you think about the the
• 1:07:17
  twos that just got bumped up the threes, like talk about being in
• 1:07:20
  good company. Is is there places there are, is
• 1:07:24
  there a song of out of those threes where they're kind of
• 1:07:27
  looking at, you know, who's around them and they're going,
• 1:07:30
  you know what? I think I'm going to back out
• 1:07:32
  here. Oh, like ones that we ones that
• 1:07:36
  we can drop, right. I think I mean disturbance at
• 1:07:41
  the Heron house was one that I added late on.
• 1:07:44
  I, I think it's super cool, but again, seeing how this played
• 1:07:49
  out, I, I don't think it really has a shot like I would again,
• 1:07:56
  I'm all in on perfect circle and country feedback.
• 1:07:59
  I would put those in even over the fours at at this point.
• 1:08:03
  So I would say disturbance at the Heron House and probably
• 1:08:09
  don't go back to Rockville, even though I I do love that song.
• 1:08:12
  Nothing against it, but looking at what else is out there, I
• 1:08:16
  don't think it stands up with with what's what's left.
• 1:08:21
  All right, so we know where Chris stands on Rockville.
• 1:08:23
  So I'm I'm going to leave that one alone for a moment.
• 1:08:25
  Let's focus in on Heronhaus. Gavin, you had Heronhaus.
• 1:08:30
  John is posited at this point. It's a strong three.
• 1:08:34
  Very happy to be here, but probably doesn't stand a chance
• 1:08:37
  at the 10. Do you agree with him?
• 1:08:39
  That's a tough. One, it's a tough one because
• 1:08:41
  you're looking at like a a song that wouldn't be on the greatest
• 1:08:44
  hits. You know, it's like a really
• 1:08:45
  interesting, I mean, when we like, I'm looking at this list
• 1:08:50
  and it's swimming around on the page like I'm sure it is for
• 1:08:52
  some of you guys too. So I'm just going to pause at
• 1:08:55
  this. Let's throw this out there.
• 1:08:57
  I mean, the way that this is shaking out, you could, we could
• 1:09:00
  split it and try to do 5 from the 80s and five for the 90s,
• 1:09:07
  like do 5 from the early half and five from the later half or
• 1:09:12
  five from IRS and five from Warner.
• 1:09:14
  However, you want to think about that because.
• 1:09:16
  I like that idea. Then that makes me feel better
• 1:09:20
  about cutting something like Disturbance because I'm like,
• 1:09:23
  oh, we've still got three slots for the early songs, you know?
• 1:09:28
  So you're so you're 5 from Warner would be night swimming,
• 1:09:33
  strange currencies, losing my religion man on the moon and
• 1:09:37
  country feedback right? Is that right?
• 1:09:41
  Are you That wouldn't be mine, but yes, I think that's.
• 1:09:44
  What I think those are the only those are the.
• 1:09:45
  Those would be the only 5. Oh, I see what you're saying.
• 1:09:48
  From Warner. Because we cut the one I love,
• 1:09:51
  right? Because it's a three and we.
• 1:09:54
  You know, we're working on threes right now.
• 1:09:55
  The. One I love.
• 1:09:58
  Right. So then like country feedback,
• 1:10:00
  strange currencies, man on the moon, losing my religion, the
• 1:10:03
  one I love, Night swimming. Yeah, that's a lot.
• 1:10:08
  That's a big list. Yeah.
• 1:10:15
  So yeah, OK, well, I didn't. Need to make it more confusing.
• 1:10:23
  No, no, no. I just I, I brain.
• 1:10:25
  I like your. I Go ahead, Brian.
• 1:10:27
  Yeah, I get what you're saying. I I get what you're saying.
• 1:10:30
  Like, you know, because there's two eras of R.E.M, like, should
• 1:10:36
  we just split it and go 5:00 and 5:00?
• 1:10:41
  You know, that's like, the one thing like, like I noticed,
• 1:10:44
  like, when they did like, the Pearl Jam, you know, nothing
• 1:10:49
  past, nothing past The Yield was there.
• 1:10:51
  Like, it was all just look from the five 90s albums.
• 1:10:54
  That was it. And then I was like, like, oh,
• 1:10:56
  man. Like, I was like, it's tough.
• 1:11:01
  Yeah. Like I said.
• 1:11:02
  And you know, here's where it comes to, like I said earlier,
• 1:11:05
  where we have, you know, you know, like we're, you know, we
• 1:11:09
  have a couple guys who were like the older generation accent as
• 1:11:12
  they're the younger generation act now like, you know,
• 1:11:15
  somewhere fighting harder for 80s and somewhere fighting
• 1:11:17
  harder for 90s. All that to say, I have no
• 1:11:28
  answers for you man. Let's go back to disturbance
• 1:11:33
  that they aren't house. Right, right.
• 1:11:34
  So let's. Go as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:11:36
  OK, well let's leave that to because Chrissy had both
• 1:11:39
  Rockville and Heron House. We know your opinions on
• 1:11:43
  Rockville. Would you be at this point
• 1:11:46
  willing to lay down on on Heron House?
• 1:11:50
  Depends on what we're doing with document.
• 1:11:53
  Are we keeping the one I love or are we keeping disturbance?
• 1:11:57
  I would vote disturbance over the one I love.
• 1:12:00
  Right, let's see. But of Heron House in Rockville,
• 1:12:07
  I'm going to choose Rockville. Right.
• 1:12:11
  So we've murmur, we've got So what?
• 1:12:14
  We've got 2 the two unanimous. We're both 80s, right?
• 1:12:17
  Yeah. Murmur.
• 1:12:18
  Yeah, yeah. So if if we're if we're going
• 1:12:21
  with Gavin's idea of five and five, two of the 80 spots are
• 1:12:25
  already in. So you've got three spots.
• 1:12:31
  Well, let's, let's do that then. OK, let's, let's, if we, if we
• 1:12:37
  take Gavin's idea, we'll, we'll start with you, John.
• 1:12:40
  If we take Gavin's idea of five and five, two of the 80 spots
• 1:12:44
  are taken. What would your 380 spots
• 1:12:47
  remaining 80 spots be? So I would take.
• 1:13:07
  I would take gardening at night. I think I would probably I'm
• 1:13:28
  looking at like like Rockville Heron House and the one I love
• 1:13:32
  are and thinks thinking about like ranking those.
• 1:13:38
  I know. I just said that like
• 1:13:40
  disturbance at the Heron house could maybe go.
• 1:13:44
  But if we're doing it this way, I think it's maybe gardening at
• 1:13:51
  night, perfect circle and maybe Heron house just to throw
• 1:13:56
  something in there that's a little underrated.
• 1:13:59
  That might be a little like a little bonus for people like
• 1:14:04
  maybe that one would be unexpected and like maybe turn
• 1:14:09
  somebody's ear to be like, oh, they really like they they
• 1:14:13
  really went deep on that thing and really tried to pick the
• 1:14:15
  Best Song. So those I think would be the
• 1:14:17
  three. That would be my exact 3 all.
• 1:14:20
  Right. So, you know, before I go to
• 1:14:22
  Peter, then I'll just mark AG next to J just so we can keep
• 1:14:30
  that tabulated. All right, same question to you,
• 1:14:34
  Peter, like 3 of the 80 songs. How would you round out the 80
• 1:14:39
  songs? Gardening at night, fall on me
• 1:14:51
  and perfect circle. Yeah, Peter and Perfect circle.
• 1:15:03
  All right, Chris. Guarding a night obviously Harry
• 1:15:10
  House and was talking about the passion was that dropped?
• 1:15:15
  No, it's still it's. Still, I'd take that over
• 1:15:19
  perfect circle. I'm sorry all.
• 1:15:22
  Right, so disturbance talk about the passion in here and
• 1:15:27
  gardening a night. No Rockville.
• 1:15:30
  Rockville. Talk about the passion, Aaron
• 1:15:34
  House. Oh, OK.
• 1:15:37
  I'm sorry. Disturbance is Heron House.
• 1:15:38
  My bad. Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  Disturbance at the Heron House. Don't go back to Rockville,
• 1:15:43
  obviously. Talk about the passion.
• 1:15:44
  I'd like better than perfect. OK, so Perfect Circle.
• 1:15:47
  It's a good song, but nobody maybe.
• 1:15:50
  So not. No, no gardening at night.
• 1:15:53
  No. Did I say gardening at night?
• 1:15:55
  Gardening at night, God damn it. One thing at night, talk about
• 1:16:00
  the Passion and God, where's the other disturbance?
• 1:16:06
  Disturbance at Heron House. Those are Mike.
• 1:16:09
  OK, so. No, Rockville.
• 1:16:10
  OK, All right. No, wait.
• 1:16:14
  Shit, fuck. God damn it.
• 1:16:19
  All right, all right, all right. Gardening at night.
• 1:16:23
  Fuck, don't go back to Rockville and God damn it here in the
• 1:16:29
  house I guess. All right.
• 1:16:30
  So no talk. Talk about the passion, OK.
• 1:16:33
  Yeah, that's my bad. My bad.
• 1:16:35
  Sorry. All right, all right.
• 1:16:36
  And Brian? Well, I got to have something
• 1:16:44
  from we. We got to have something from
• 1:16:47
  document. Right.
• 1:16:51
  In my in my in my top five favorite R.E.M. albums like
• 1:16:55
  document is on there twice like like document and like probably
• 1:17:03
  we'll definitely. Well, we're not on 90s right
• 1:17:06
  now. We're on 80s, but document is my
• 1:17:08
  favorite of the 80s out It's it's see but so if I were going
• 1:17:16
  to. So.
• 1:17:17
  Are we counting gardening at night or we just giving it a
• 1:17:20
  pass because it's a four? No, you got a counter.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah, you pick pick your 3. Well, I'm still going to fight a
• 1:17:32
  very weak fight for the one I love.
• 1:17:38
  And then man, talk about the passion.
• 1:17:46
  And then for me it's between Disturbance and Rockville.
• 1:17:53
  I like Rockville, but I already made this whole argument against
• 1:17:57
  Rockville and I already professed my love for for
• 1:18:01
  Document as the best 80s R.E.M. album.
• 1:18:05
  So am I going to take 2 two from Document?
• 1:18:12
  I am. There you go.
• 1:18:15
  Hey man, it's your songs. Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  All right, so by the numbers guarding it, gardening at night
• 1:18:20
  and disturbance are two of the two are in.
• 1:18:27
  And I mean speak now or forever hold your peace.
• 1:18:30
  I'm going to push those through. Good.
• 1:18:34
  Right, boom and boom because those got four out of five
• 1:18:37
  people said that that would be one of their three songs.
• 1:18:43
  So gardening at night, disturbance at the Heron House
• 1:18:46
  are in. Oh wait, weapons to fall on me
• 1:18:50
  then. Nothing yet.
• 1:18:54
  Nothing yet. Nothing.
• 1:18:55
  Yet still still got to make one more.
• 1:18:57
  Yeah, we still need, we still need one more 80s song.
• 1:19:02
  So I mean, if we're going by just votes, Perfect Circle got
• 1:19:06
  3, Rockville one. I love Talk About the Passion
• 1:19:13
  and Fall on Me each got one. Yeah.
• 1:19:18
  So if we're going on just votes, then it's Perfect Circle.
• 1:19:21
  But we also have to keep, you know, keep into account.
• 1:19:25
  That's well, I guess really the only four that kind of got
• 1:19:30
  pushed forward at this point is Following me.
• 1:19:32
  So I mean, if you want to do the fair thing, Following me got 4
• 1:19:39
  on the original votes and in perfect Circle got three, got 2
• 1:19:46
  on the original votes, got considered to get bumped into
• 1:19:50
  the three, but then got three votes for.
• 1:19:54
  So I mean, really it's it's a four versus technically A2.
• 1:19:59
  I don't know how much weight you put on that.
• 1:20:02
  And like how you feel about gardening at night and
• 1:20:05
  disturbance at the Heron Heron house.
• 1:20:07
  Already getting in, John. Like you mean you've been
• 1:20:11
  pounding the perfect circle drum?
• 1:20:15
  But you also had fallen. I mean, Perfect Circle to me is
• 1:20:20
  a clad just a timeless song. Like I think I said before, it's
• 1:20:24
  the only R.E.M. song I think that would fit on all of their
• 1:20:27
  records and it would be the Best Song on a lot of them.
• 1:20:31
  And I I just think it's I've been, I don't know, you know, I
• 1:20:36
  don't know how the 90s thing is going to play out.
• 1:20:39
  We might not have anything else that sounds like it.
• 1:20:42
  I think it's it's an amazing like vocal performance by Stipe
• 1:20:46
  that that's the one that I would would really fight for.
• 1:20:49
  I would love to get it on this list.
• 1:20:52
  Chris, were you about to say something?
• 1:20:54
  Well, because we're talking about A2 coming back, but we
• 1:20:58
  still got like don't go back to Rockville was a three and a
• 1:21:03
  couple other threes that, you know, I don't know.
• 1:21:07
  I'm still trying to fight for Don't Go Back to Rock, so I
• 1:21:11
  don't have much fight me, but that's it's it might be one of
• 1:21:17
  my top five. Well, if we're, we're looking
• 1:21:21
  at, we're still looking at kind of a, a, a tide, a hung jury, as
• 1:21:26
  it were. So what do we got here for the
• 1:21:29
  90s? Country feedback, man on the
• 1:21:32
  moon, strange currencies. Was that 1/2 3/4?
• 1:21:44
  Is that 5 exactly? Yep.
• 1:21:48
  I mean. Lock it in.
• 1:21:50
  Is if that's what we're doing, If that's what we're doing, we
• 1:21:54
  got to lock it in, right? Does anybody disagree?
• 1:21:58
  Lock it in Champa? Or do we?
• 1:22:03
  Do we just do that? I mean, it seems like we all
• 1:22:05
  agreed that it was the 580's, 590's.
• 1:22:09
  If anybody disagrees at this point, make your case.
• 1:22:14
  I'm sitting here listening to Perfect Circle and God damn it,
• 1:22:17
  why did I do that? All right.
• 1:22:21
  And I'm thinking about what John said and like, yeah, you could
• 1:22:24
  put this song on like New Adventures of and it would fit
• 1:22:27
  right in, like next to like E boat letter.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah. Also I thought EBO should have
• 1:22:33
  been here but. Yeah, focus up, focus up.
• 1:22:41
  Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I mean, you know, I'm a 90s kid.
• 1:22:44
  I'm, I'm, I'm very happy just to push all those 90s all.
• 1:22:49
  Right, let's see. Country feedback, Man on the
• 1:22:55
  moon. Strange currencies.
• 1:23:01
  I'm just happy to see country feedback make it to the final.
• 1:23:05
  Yeah, totally. Yeah, that makes me very happy
• 1:23:07
  all. Right.
• 1:23:10
  What does that get us to 9? Should my computer's being
• 1:23:15
  really slow? I missed one.
• 1:23:18
  The live performances of that song are so much better than the
• 1:23:21
  studio earlier. Yeah, that's what I forgot,
• 1:23:24
  strange currencies. OK, so now we can really close
• 1:23:29
  out the 80s conversation here. I want to run down the 9 real
• 1:23:34
  quick and see if that kind of changes everybody's thoughts.
• 1:23:39
  The Nines 9 that are already in Radio Free Europe, South Central
• 1:23:43
  rain, gardening at night, disturbance on the Heron House,
• 1:23:45
  night swimming, losing my religion, Man on the moon,
• 1:23:47
  country feedback, strange currencies.
• 1:23:51
  All right, now we go back and I mean. 5 Right, Justin?
• 1:23:57
  There's like there's five in contention for the last four. 5
• 1:24:00
  Yep, it's following me. Talk about the passion.
• 1:24:03
  Don't go back to Rockville. The one I love Perfect circle.
• 1:24:07
  I mean, again, you know, following me has four.
• 1:24:10
  But at this point, Peter, looking at everything that has
• 1:24:13
  gone in, is that still top of your list to be the last one?
• 1:24:18
  I mean, again, it it took the four, but perfect circle has
• 1:24:24
  three, you know, in the the that that second round to to get this
• 1:24:29
  far. Like where is following me #10
• 1:24:32
  for you I guess is what I'm getting at.
• 1:24:35
  I mean, it's it's got everything that makes R.E.M. great.
• 1:24:40
  It's got Peter Bucks jangly guitars, got Mike Mills doing
• 1:24:45
  great backing vocals and doing a beautiful job with the bridge.
• 1:24:50
  And the lyrics are great. Stipe gives a great performance.
• 1:24:54
  It's I don't know. For me, it's just one of their
• 1:24:56
  quintessential songs. Gavin, at this point, you know,
• 1:25:01
  I know, I know you went to bat pretty hard for Perfect Circle
• 1:25:04
  last go. I mean, if we've got just the
• 1:25:07
  180 song at this point, I mean, is it is it following me because
• 1:25:13
  it got 4? Is it perfect Circle because it
• 1:25:15
  got the three or is it one of those other ones?
• 1:25:18
  I mean, it's this is a crazy decision.
• 1:25:21
  I, I totally agree with everything Peter just said.
• 1:25:23
  I mean, fall on Me is incredible.
• 1:25:25
  And I just want to say, just for the record, it's fucking crazy
• 1:25:31
  that we don't have anything off life's life's versus Pageant.
• 1:25:35
  You know, that's my second favorite R.E.M. song record.
• 1:25:38
  That's like an incredible album. It's wild to cut Rockville.
• 1:25:43
  I I do understand John's argument about that.
• 1:25:46
  It, it's a sentimental favorite for me and it feels like just
• 1:25:52
  so, it just feels like the way that I imagined Athens.
• 1:25:56
  I don't know. Anyway, I, I always forget that
• 1:26:01
  the one I love is a part of the 80s crew.
• 1:26:03
  I always think about it as a part of the 90s crew.
• 1:26:08
  I. For for sentimental reasons, out
• 1:26:11
  of those five I would choose perfect circle over fall on me.
• 1:26:15
  You know, right? But it's a painful vision.
• 1:26:19
  Chris, you've got and I'm not even.
• 1:26:20
  Saying it's a better song like Fall on Me is a perfect song
• 1:26:23
  there. You go, Chris, you've gone
• 1:26:26
  pretty hard on on Rockville. But I mean, you look at these
• 1:26:29
  other 9, is, is the fight still in you or is it one of these
• 1:26:33
  other songs? No.
• 1:26:35
  I mean, no, I'm, I love Rockville.
• 1:26:43
  I, I don't really. I mean, Following Me is a fine
• 1:26:46
  song. I had never picked it on my
• 1:26:48
  first list. Yeah.
• 1:26:52
  Obviously didn't pick it on this list.
• 1:26:54
  You know, none of the songs that I really liked on Life's Risk
• 1:27:02
  Pageant made it so, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:27:07
  I I'm, I'm sticking to Rockville, but you know, Que
• 1:27:12
  Sarasara. What, what will be will be, you
• 1:27:14
  know, I got, I got nothing left. Brian, I mean you split yourself
• 1:27:22
  here with the one I love and talk about the passion.
• 1:27:25
  Is it one of those or are you willing to kind of, you know,
• 1:27:30
  because you were in on the original voting on fall on me as
• 1:27:33
  well? Yeah, yeah, and vice versa.
• 1:27:37
  Pageant is like my second favorite 80s album.
• 1:27:41
  So like what E R.E.M. album? So having like I said, when I
• 1:27:49
  when I put up the one I love, like it sounded like week 3,
• 1:27:53
  like it, it didn't sound, it didn't get a feel of a strong
• 1:27:58
  three like like Disturbance kind of did.
• 1:28:02
  And like strange Currencies felt a very strong three.
• 1:28:07
  So if like if I had to concede on one, I guess it would be the
• 1:28:13
  one I love. But it it just, you know, that
• 1:28:19
  that and then that for me that puts like fall on me versus
• 1:28:25
  passion is still in there, right.
• 1:28:26
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:28:31
  I think it would be fall on me if if, if it were, then fall on
• 1:28:34
  me, talk about the passion and befall on me.
• 1:28:38
  I had them both. I had them both when we did the
• 1:28:41
  first episodes. I had them both today.
• 1:28:47
  Yeah, I would, I would take and then and then now.
• 1:28:50
  Now the other conundrum is I put perfect circle in my head.
• 1:28:54
  So I sat here listening. So then I do like fall on me
• 1:28:57
  versus perfect circle and and yeah, perfect circle, like it
• 1:29:01
  shows so much. It shows so much like depth from
• 1:29:06
  the band, from from like from the beginning, like, you know,
• 1:29:10
  like they wouldn't really, you feel like, Oh well, they're not
• 1:29:14
  going to perfect that sound until until like automatic, but
• 1:29:18
  like they did perfect that sound early.
• 1:29:25
  Like that? You know, like it's crazy.
• 1:29:29
  It's it's crazy how how talented they were right at the bat.
• 1:29:35
  Even even murmur isn't like one of my I don't know, I don't know
• 1:29:38
  what I'm doing. I'm I'm going to stick with I'm
• 1:29:41
  I'm just going to stick with fall on me because all.
• 1:29:44
  Right, so. I don't.
• 1:29:47
  Know a strong second vote for Perfect Circle.
• 1:29:50
  Here's what I'm hearing and you have withdrawn on the one.
• 1:29:56
  I love the the way this conversation's going anyway it
• 1:29:59
  it doesn't sound like it stands at a chance anyway, so let's
• 1:30:04
  remove that from the conversation and bring it down
• 1:30:06
  to four. Everyone's kind of made a case
• 1:30:10
  about following me talk about the passion Rockville and
• 1:30:13
  perfect circle. Chris said he's kind of out of
• 1:30:17
  the energy to to continue pushing for Rockville.
• 1:30:22
  John, you've, you've been out on Rockville.
• 1:30:26
  Gavin's kind of can be seems like he can be swayed on
• 1:30:29
  Rockville. Peter seems set on Fall on Me
• 1:30:34
  and John seems set on Perfect Circle, so basically nowhere.
• 1:30:42
  I mean, so we had one vote for Rockville, right?
• 1:30:45
  Right to vote for fall on me. I'm voting for Perfect Circle.
• 1:30:52
  Me too. And John's voting for Perfect
• 1:30:54
  Circle. So we have a.
• 1:30:56
  So we have a tie between Paul and me and Perfect Circle.
• 1:31:00
  Right, that's what it sounds like.
• 1:31:02
  It's it's our it's our Rockville friend that picks one of those
• 1:31:06
  two there. You go.
• 1:31:09
  I didn't have either of them ever, so I'm going to vote for
• 1:31:12
  Rockville. Fuck y'all, I abstain.
• 1:31:23
  Does anybody have a dart board? Yeah.
• 1:31:27
  A coin flip. 3 sided coin. Again, it's just, it's, it's
• 1:31:34
  brutal, like. I mean, if you want to throw
• 1:31:36
  wrenches and things perfect circle what fall on me, I'd
• 1:31:41
  bring back. Talk about the passion.
• 1:31:42
  Since everyone's Pooh poohing Rockville, I'd bring back, I
• 1:31:47
  bring back. Talk about the passion just to
• 1:31:49
  just to fuck things up. Chris is going to bring back
• 1:31:52
  radio song just to fuck things up.
• 1:31:53
  Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:57
  Don't push. That button don't push that
• 1:31:59
  button. So I'm so I'm looking at some of
• 1:32:04
  these songs that we have through already.
• 1:32:05
  OK, and I'm picturing like I I I know, I know, I know John's
• 1:32:11
  going to say, Oh, that's not three song run to me, but like
• 1:32:16
  you're listening to the playlist and you have night swimming and
• 1:32:20
  then perfect circle and then strange currencies like all play
• 1:32:23
  in a row. Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:32:26
  Like they all kind of there's kind.
• 1:32:28
  Of I mean, but here we're just, we're picking the best songs.
• 1:32:31
  We're not going for representation, we're not going
• 1:32:34
  for a starter kit. You're just picking the best
• 1:32:36
  songs. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:39
  Best of the best. The best of the best.
• 1:32:44
  Like normally I would be with you, but like here, yeah.
• 1:32:47
  I you just pick the Best Song 3 very like down songs in a row
• 1:32:53
  you'd have there. But yeah, I mean.
• 1:32:57
  But you've also got radio for Europe, you've got gardening at
• 1:33:00
  night, you've got man on the moon.
• 1:33:01
  Like it. We've got the balance.
• 1:33:05
  Yeah, but I've teachers. I mean, to me you just pick the
• 1:33:08
  best. 1A Perfect circle is the best one.
• 1:33:13
  Do you think we're at a? We need, we need Justin to make
• 1:33:16
  a vote. Very.
• 1:33:21
  President. Very happy we are.
• 1:33:23
  We are deadlocked. On fall on me in perfect circle
• 1:33:26
  right now but. Well, Chris is abstained because
• 1:33:34
  because Rockville. So.
• 1:33:37
  You're right. Rockville and Talk about the
• 1:33:39
  best show. I think both of those songs are
• 1:33:41
  better than the other two. Yeah.
• 1:33:44
  Yeah, talk about the passion we just kind of tossed aside.
• 1:33:47
  Yeah. Well, it it just sounded like
• 1:33:50
  that's the way the conversation was going.
• 1:33:51
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only reason I I
• 1:33:55
  pushed it aside. I mean, I can happen.
• 1:34:01
  You guys are the ones, you know, duking it out here.
• 1:34:03
  I'll happily bring it back to life, but.
• 1:34:06
  Yeah, I mean, those are the ones, the ones that were on my
• 1:34:09
  list at the beginning and on this, well, not on this one, but
• 1:34:13
  was was talk about the passion of Rockville.
• 1:34:16
  Talk about passion. Didn't make my final 15, but I
• 1:34:19
  still like it better than those other two.
• 1:34:21
  And that's where I stand. If I get voted out, that's fine.
• 1:34:25
  My hurt feelings have come and gone.
• 1:34:30
  I mean, Peter, again, we're looking at like Best Song as
• 1:34:33
  opposed to, you know, rounding, you know, rounding out your
• 1:34:36
  playlist, you're, you know, introducing somebody like it's
• 1:34:40
  just they're the the 10th Best Song of these ones remaining.
• 1:34:45
  Like which one's the best? Is it still following me for
• 1:34:47
  you? Yeah, I mean, that's just my
• 1:34:50
  opinion. All right.
• 1:34:57
  I mean, I'm, I'm not the the the problem is I can't, I can't move
• 1:35:01
  the conversation because I'm not hearing anything definitive like
• 1:35:04
  that. I can kind of sing my teeth.
• 1:35:06
  I mean, we that this may be unpopular, but we we could, we
• 1:35:10
  could kick out Man on the Moon and put both of them in.
• 1:35:14
  No. No.
• 1:35:15
  Oh. I'm just, I'm again, I'm just,
• 1:35:19
  I'm throwing wrenches at this point.
• 1:35:23
  Well, you know, same I'll. Say that because I'm not.
• 1:35:26
  Because. Because now I'm going to think
• 1:35:27
  about that. Well, same concept, you can boot
• 1:35:30
  out one of the 80s songs that's already in to make room for
• 1:35:33
  both. Oh.
• 1:35:34
  Man. Yeah, I mean, if we like I said
• 1:35:40
  if we if we like, I love the disturbance at the Heron house
• 1:35:43
  is is on this list, but is if we, if we take that out, then we
• 1:35:50
  get both perfect circle and fall on me.
• 1:35:59
  I know, I know. I I know, I know.
• 1:36:01
  That's just me making more concessions, but whatever.
• 1:36:05
  I'm for it. Let's see you, Gavin.
• 1:36:11
  It sounded like you. You had something.
• 1:36:14
  I mean, if there was another, there's another Die hard for it.
• 1:36:19
  So yeah, I don't like that idea. All right, All right.
• 1:36:27
  So it sounds like we're, we're we're settled on the 9 that are
• 1:36:29
  in then like. Yeah.
• 1:36:32
  Shake that idea completely. OK, all right, so let's look at
• 1:36:37
  the the three. I would, I would, I would shake
• 1:36:41
  country feedback from both of those.
• 1:36:44
  No. Careful, careful.
• 1:36:48
  See. No, no, we're going to.
• 1:36:49
  We're going to lock those in. At the end of the 90s.
• 1:36:53
  Yeah. We're going to lock those in and
• 1:36:54
  then or fall on me versus perfect circle.
• 1:36:59
  Well here, let's do this. You know we're going to we're
• 1:37:05
  going to rank from the what you think considered the one I love
• 1:37:12
  is out. We're leaving the other four in
• 1:37:16
  fall on me talk about the passion Rockville perfect
• 1:37:19
  circle. Which ones the 4th song?
• 1:37:25
  John the. 4th out of those is Rockville All.
• 1:37:31
  Right 4th song, Peter. Worst song of those 4.
• 1:37:41
  Don't say worst they're they're all good.
• 1:37:45
  Yeah, 4th song out of those 4. At least, yeah.
• 1:37:56
  Follow me Passion, Rockville. Perfect Circle, Peter.
• 1:38:02
  Passed out. I said Rockville.
• 1:38:05
  Oh, OK. Sorry I didn't hear you.
• 1:38:08
  All right. Same question to you, Gavin.
• 1:38:12
  Talk about the passion all. Right.
• 1:38:16
  Which I love. Oh yeah.
• 1:38:19
  I mean, you're dealing with, if you're on a ranking scale,
• 1:38:21
  you're dealing with like 9.99 versus 9.98 at this point.
• 1:38:26
  Right, right. You think about this
• 1:38:28
  conversation. Yeah, that's what that's what
• 1:38:30
  you're dealing with, Chris. Yeah, what were they?
• 1:38:34
  Perfect circle. Passion following me in
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  Rockville. Yeah, Perfect circle.
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  All right. And Brian?
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  Rockville. Well, well, I thought, I
• 1:38:51
  thought, I thought Rockville was already out.
• 1:38:54
  No, I, I. Left out.
• 1:38:58
  It's out now. We're doing rank choice buddy.
• 1:39:05
  None of this is fun, but it's fun for us, by the way.
• 1:39:09
  Why do you think I won't do a Championship edition?
• 1:39:12
  We're we're going to get you in on pumpkins.
• 1:39:14
  You just watch. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it'll be
• 1:39:17
  whenever whenever Machina 2, whenever Zeitgeist and Tear
• 1:39:25
  Garden actually come back to, Yeah, whenever they come back to
• 1:39:28
  streaming, I'll consider it. All right.
• 1:39:33
  So unfortunately for again, when you look at this, really you're
• 1:39:39
  looking at like the the 13th ranked R.E.M.
• 1:39:44
  Song, I mean. Yeah, that's nothing to nothing
• 1:39:47
  to be sad. About right, right.
• 1:39:51
  I, I mean, I guess this is the way we're going to have to do it
• 1:39:54
  because we've made zero concessions.
• 1:39:56
  So we're going to just do ranked again.
• 1:40:00
  Third. Follow me.
• 1:40:01
  Talk about the passion and perfect circle, John.
• 1:40:08
  This is like cutting out a piece of your heart, Jesus. 3rd is
• 1:40:13
  talk about the passion and then I'm going to go hide in the
• 1:40:16
  corner. All right, Peter.
• 1:40:27
  Perfect circle all. Right, Gavin?
• 1:40:33
  Fall on me. This one's a little bit more
• 1:40:37
  split of those feet. 3 Chris, Which one?
• 1:40:42
  I gotta go fall on me. All right.
• 1:40:50
  And Brian? Talk about passion.
• 1:40:58
  All right, so there's two ways to look at this.
• 1:41:03
  Two of the three songs got 2 votes and one of them only got
• 1:41:07
  1. We can suffer through another
• 1:41:12
  round of that or. I'll bow out, yeah.
• 1:41:17
  Yeah, I was going to say except that Perfect Circle is the 10th
• 1:41:21
  song because I mean, I, if you, yeah, again, following me, you
• 1:41:29
  got 2 votes. Talk about the passion.
• 1:41:30
  You've got 2 votes. So I, I it's not exactly
• 1:41:36
  definitive, it's not exactly scientific, but.
• 1:41:39
  But boy, did we do the work. Yeah.
• 1:41:42
  All right, so let's. Yeah, I mean I, I.
• 1:41:45
  Mean I'd be happy either way, but I think yeah, that's fine.
• 1:41:49
  So we're going Perfect Circle. We're going to accept Perfect
• 1:41:52
  Circle as our 10th song and let's.
• 1:41:55
  Wow, John brought that back from the two.
• 1:41:58
  That's incredible. This is what he does.
• 1:42:02
  He's a professional. He said at the beginning he's
• 1:42:05
  like don't, don't count it. Out country feedback was a two
• 1:42:09
  also, yeah. Yeah, goddamn right it was all.
• 1:42:16
  Right, hold on, I'll run down this list.
• 1:42:18
  There's all these XS everywhere because we did this very, very
• 1:42:22
  different than usual. All right.
• 1:42:24
  Radio Free Europe. South Central.
• 1:42:26
  Rain, gardening at night, disturbance at the Heron House,
• 1:42:28
  night swimming, Losing my religion, Man on the moon.
• 1:42:30
  Country feedback, strange currencies.
• 1:42:31
  Perfect circle. A little bloody John, but we got
• 1:42:33
  there. Yeah, that's that's a really
• 1:42:39
  good list like that is I I can't find, I can't find out something
• 1:42:47
  wrong with it. You get some hits here, here,
• 1:42:50
  Peter, you get your man on the moon.
• 1:42:51
  You get you're losing my religion.
• 1:42:53
  But like, it's not like they were concessions.
• 1:42:56
  They had to fight to get in. But also it makes sense, right?
• 1:43:01
  I mean, like losing my religion, like it's their biggest song,
• 1:43:07
  but like, it, it, it is for a reason.
• 1:43:10
  It's it's transcendent. It's it's just great.
• 1:43:15
  Like to me, it doesn't matter that it was the huge hit.
• 1:43:18
  Yeah, ultimately, Gavin, you're you, you have some greatest hits
• 1:43:23
  here. And you know, as as Peter just
• 1:43:25
  pointed out, probably the greatest hit, but you also, you
• 1:43:28
  kind of dip in, dip your toes into a lot of everything.
• 1:43:30
  I mean, how's it look for you? Yeah, we got some, we got some
• 1:43:34
  unexpected ones in there. I, I and I would count strange
• 1:43:37
  currencies and there is an unexpected one for.
• 1:43:42
  I didn't see that coming and that's cool.
• 1:43:45
  Yeah. So I'm happy with it.
• 1:43:46
  It's great. I I liked it, helped my brain
• 1:43:49
  figured out to split it like that.
• 1:43:52
  I think it was good. It's fair, you know what I mean?
• 1:43:55
  It keeps everybody like, reasonably miserable, so that's
• 1:43:59
  good. So yeah, Speaking of reasonably
• 1:44:02
  miserable Chris, I mean, unfortunately you went through
• 1:44:05
  it again with Rockville. But, I mean, again, you look at
• 1:44:07
  these 10 songs, like, ultimately, we still did good
• 1:44:10
  work, Yeah. What were the 10?
• 1:44:12
  Did disturbances at her house? Did that make it?
• 1:44:15
  Yes, yes. All right, yeah, no, I'm cool
• 1:44:18
  then. I'm cool.
• 1:44:21
  I'll take that as a win. I'll take, I'll take bringing
• 1:44:23
  that back as a free. I'll, I'll take that, I'll take
• 1:44:29
  that. Because that's a great fucking
• 1:44:30
  song. Yeah.
• 1:44:32
  I wouldn't have seen that coming at the beginning of this, Brian.
• 1:44:34
  I mean, you, you look at this 10 like again, we had to put in
• 1:44:38
  work to get there. But but it's that's a list.
• 1:44:42
  Yeah, yeah. No, this is no, I'm going to I'm
• 1:44:46
  going to listen to this list like like immediately, This is
• 1:44:51
  this is a great list. Like I'm the I'm I'm happy with
• 1:44:55
  this. Like I was surprised that, you
• 1:44:58
  know, songs like, you know, talk about the passion crush or
• 1:45:04
  things like that, kind of like went to the wayside, but like,
• 1:45:07
  you know, you know, fall on me losing to A2 at the end there.
• 1:45:12
  That was yeah, but yeah, no, but I mean this.
• 1:45:19
  This hits. Me with like my favorite 80s
• 1:45:22
  songs and 90s songs and yeah, I would have liked to see a little
• 1:45:28
  more from document, you know, we got.
• 1:45:30
  One there at least so. But like look at the look at the
• 1:45:35
  stuff that got thrown in the bin, like.
• 1:45:38
  The stuff only got ones be mine driver 8 drive with frequency
• 1:45:42
  Kenneth world leader pretend everybody hurts Cuyahoga wolves
• 1:45:46
  lower pilgrimage like these are the like these are the the best
• 1:45:51
  40 R.E.M. Songs is nothing to shake at,
• 1:45:53
  like they have more than 40 great songs we just had to like.
• 1:45:59
  You just have to. Suffer to get down to it but
• 1:46:02
  like you can make a great 10 out of out of the ones and only got
• 1:46:05
  1 vote on this. Like just shows how how deep and
• 1:46:09
  how strong their catalog is top to bottom.
• 1:46:12
  Yeah, my only regret is I couldn't get Kate Pearson on the
• 1:46:16
  list. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:46:19
  We'll do the we'll do the B50 twos someday.
• 1:46:21
  I mean, Oh. Jesus Christ, don't talk.
• 1:46:24
  Don't do that to me. I know if you guys ever, if you
• 1:46:29
  ever come to Athens, hit me up. We'll do the R.E.M.
• 1:46:31
  Tour, absolutely. So let's get some final
• 1:46:35
  thoughts, show you all the spots.
• 1:46:36
  Let's let's do. Some final thoughts here, John
• 1:46:38
  on on. R.E.M.
• 1:46:39
  Championship. Edition just in.
• 1:46:41
  In total, I mean like all of it considering the four rounds
• 1:46:46
  leading here and then and then this like ultimately how do you,
• 1:46:48
  I mean again, we came out with a great list.
• 1:46:50
  Ultimately, how do you feel about the process?
• 1:46:55
  It was excruciatingly painful and like.
• 1:46:58
  I, you know, and I think I might have mentioned this in the
• 1:47:01
  beginning, if not like R.E.M. in the last few years has worked
• 1:47:06
  their way up into being one of my top five, you know, favorite
• 1:47:11
  bands of all time. And I probably couldn't say that
• 1:47:15
  10 years ago, but the more you like, the more you listen to
• 1:47:19
  them, the, the more you get rewarded, the more stuff there
• 1:47:23
  is to always be digging. Like, like I'm, I'm maybe 47
• 1:47:27
  this year. I'm still getting stuff out of
• 1:47:29
  their catalog. And like, I can't say that for
• 1:47:32
  for every band that I that I listen to and it I mean, we had
• 1:47:39
  again, I'm looking at the 10. Like I would not have predicted
• 1:47:41
  some of these songs would have been on the beginning.
• 1:47:44
  But I mean, that's why you do it.
• 1:47:46
  I mean, that's why you get, you know, the Super fans that that
• 1:47:51
  we are and you, you have to get through.
• 1:47:56
  And, like, I'm just hoping they don't reunite and put out
• 1:47:59
  another album because we'll have to do it again.
• 1:48:04
  Help me out, yeah. Peter, this is the second
• 1:48:08
  Championship edition you've done.
• 1:48:09
  And we kind of were bandying. About, you know, doing more and
• 1:48:13
  you, you were like, yeah, man, I'm, I'm in like now that you've
• 1:48:17
  gone through the second one, are you still of that mindset?
• 1:48:20
  Do you still, do you still have the fight for, for something
• 1:48:23
  like this? And how did, how did you feel
• 1:48:24
  about this, this whole thing? It's a good kind of pain.
• 1:48:32
  I I like the. Discussion.
• 1:48:35
  I like the the focus on filling out like what other people's
• 1:48:43
  favorite songs are by them and what they consider their best.
• 1:48:46
  And yeah, I mean, I'm totally down to do this for another
• 1:48:51
  band. It's fun.
• 1:48:53
  Just as fun as the regular to programmed episode Gavin your
• 1:48:59
  first Championship edition you you get through.
• 1:49:01
  It it it felt like you didn't you didn't mind putting up a
• 1:49:04
  wall on on some of the songs sometimes.
• 1:49:07
  I mean, did that help you in the overall scheme again, like
• 1:49:12
  looking at the entire R.E.M. Championship edition, like, how
• 1:49:16
  do you feel like it went for you?
• 1:49:19
  Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because you know when
• 1:49:22
  you put. Up a wall in the championship.
• 1:49:24
  Edition You're really like you're, I mean, you're basically
• 1:49:28
  saying like, I don't care about this song that means everything
• 1:49:32
  to you. You know what I mean?
• 1:49:33
  That like you listen to with your first girlfriend or
• 1:49:38
  whatever, you know what I mean? Like you have some history and
• 1:49:43
  you're discounting someone's history when you're when you're
• 1:49:48
  blocking these songs. You know I.
• 1:49:51
  I I liked it because. It was so immersive and because
• 1:49:54
  of what Peter said, like listening to other people talk
• 1:49:59
  about why the songs are their. Favorites and and.
• 1:50:03
  This was a fighting crew, man. Nobody really went down easy.
• 1:50:06
  And yeah, it was really fun. I liked, I like just doing a
• 1:50:11
  total deep dive and, and surprising myself, you know, and
• 1:50:15
  like and surprising myself with things that moved me that I
• 1:50:20
  forgot about or didn't think moving the first time around.
• 1:50:23
  You know, Chris, you are inarguably had the most
• 1:50:27
  heartbreak here. Through the the entire thing,
• 1:50:31
  does that shake you off doing another Championship edition or
• 1:50:34
  depending on depending on the band, I can absolutely do.
• 1:50:38
  Sparks. Yeah.
• 1:50:40
  I would do sparks in a fucking heartbeat.
• 1:50:45
  I would do sparks in a heartbeat.
• 1:50:46
  That would be a long. Yeah, they have so.
• 1:50:49
  Much music you guys? No idea?
• 1:50:51
  Well, some of you might have an idea.
• 1:50:53
  They have so many records that would take like a year to do.
• 1:50:57
  Sparks. They have so much music and they
• 1:51:01
  keep putting out more they're coming out with.
• 1:51:02
  A new record it's. Ridiculous summer.
• 1:51:05
  It's ridiculous. They're like in there, they're
• 1:51:08
  pushing 80 and they're putting. Out a new fucking record and
• 1:51:11
  going on. Tour don't don't get me started
• 1:51:15
  on sparks. We need to do like that would be
• 1:51:17
  like an after the fact. But anyways, yeah, I mean, I you
• 1:51:22
  guys have no idea. I almost quit.
• 1:51:25
  I almost quit after radio song. I texted with Jenny.
• 1:51:29
  I talked to her about. It I talked to my wife about it.
• 1:51:31
  I almost quit over that fucking song.
• 1:51:35
  That's how painful that was. But you know what?
• 1:51:38
  I pushed through. I got through it so I almost
• 1:51:42
  fucking quit though I was. I lost sleep.
• 1:51:45
  Over that shit you guys have no. Fucking Oh my God that hurt.
• 1:51:51
  That hurt so much. Probably more than any.
• 1:51:54
  Almost any. Deprogrammed.
• 1:51:56
  That hurts so much. I mean, it's, it's energy, it's
• 1:52:01
  it's passion, Brian, like. Again, when you're when you're
• 1:52:05
  looking at this, this whole thing, the whole championship
• 1:52:07
  edition, you know, picture, you know, is it firstly, I guess, is
• 1:52:14
  that something you'd be willing to go through again?
• 1:52:16
  And secondly, like, you know, how did it feel like going
• 1:52:21
  through it and and getting here and, you know, the entire
• 1:52:24
  process? Yeah, I would definitely go
• 1:52:28
  through it again. I mean, it was.
• 1:52:31
  It was. Painful, but at the same time,
• 1:52:33
  like, you know, kind of like kind of what drama saying like
• 1:52:37
  over the past, like, you know, probably probably since their
• 1:52:41
  music became more accessible to me because there's like
• 1:52:44
  streaming and sucks. I don't I don't have like all
• 1:52:46
  their physical C DS like I only had a handful easement when I
• 1:52:52
  was a kid. So like over the past couple
• 1:52:54
  years, like R.E.M. has become one of my most listened to
• 1:52:58
  bands. Like I'm, I'm looking at my
• 1:53:00
  like, spot of stats right now and they're like strangely right
• 1:53:03
  in between Megadeth and Soundgarden.
• 1:53:09
  But like, I would, I would definitely do it, you know, do
• 1:53:14
  it again. It was like a good, like a good
• 1:53:17
  hurt. It was, it was, it was rough.
• 1:53:20
  It was a slog, especially at the end and during, during the
• 1:53:23
  stalemate. Yeah.
• 1:53:27
  And, you know, it was good to do, you know, one of those like,
• 1:53:31
  you know, top 10 bands that I missed out doing during like on
• 1:53:37
  the regular show because I wasn't I wasn't around back when
• 1:53:40
  a lot of these 90s bands, you know, I'm I'm calling Ari, I'm a
• 1:53:43
  90s band, but because yeah, that's why I grew up with them.
• 1:53:48
  But like I missed out. I'm doing a lot of those bands.
• 1:53:51
  So I felt good to, you know, be able to like, you know, talk to
• 1:53:54
  our, you know, talk about R.E.M., you know, you know,
• 1:53:57
  with, you know, guys who I've done, you know, I've done but a
• 1:54:00
  lot of shows with Peter and Chris and I only did one other
• 1:54:03
  one with John. This my Gavin, you know, it's
• 1:54:06
  good to, you know. Yeah, it's been a couple days,
• 1:54:11
  you know, talking about, talking about music.
• 1:54:14
  Yeah. Well, look, one of these days
• 1:54:18
  I'll do it. But in the meantime, I won't I,
• 1:54:23
  I, I don't see the, you know, as as mentioned earlier, I don't
• 1:54:28
  see the pumpkins 1 coming up anytime soon.
• 1:54:31
  But let me know how you guys feel about Championship edition.
• 1:54:34
  Everybody here kind of got involved because they've they
• 1:54:37
  heard some of the old ones. Let me know if you're listening
• 1:54:40
  to this, how you feel about the Championship edition format, if
• 1:54:43
  that's something you'd like to hear more of.
• 1:54:44
  My goal, my goal, my hope is to do 3 year.
• 1:54:48
  I also know that's not at this point attainable, but if if
• 1:54:54
  everybody likes it enough, we might be able to squeeze another
• 1:54:56
  one in this year later in the year.
• 1:54:58
  So let me know how you feel about it.
• 1:55:00
  In the meantime, hit that subscribe button, would
• 1:55:02
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• 1:55:04
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• 1:55:07
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