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- 0:02Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia.
- 0:05Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panale Show.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rida Panahe Show. I'm
- 0:10Speaker 3: Caroline Druso, filling in for readA tonight and coming up
- 0:14Speaker 3: on the show alarming news from the A and Z
- 0:16Speaker 3: Bank as it raises concerns about supply chain vulnerabilities. I'll
- 0:20Speaker 3: get Adam Crichton on that shortly. Another blow to Labour's
- 0:24Speaker 3: green energy dream with a twelve point five billion dollar
- 0:27Speaker 3: hydrogen project acted in central Queensland. We'll speak with Liberal
- 0:31Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antick to get his reaction. Plus Senate Republicans
- 0:35Speaker 3: vote to advance Trump's big Beautiful bill.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Josh Hammer will.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Join me from the US with his analysis, and Kinsey
- 0:42Speaker 3: Schofield will join us to break down all the big
- 0:44Speaker 3: news from Jeff Bezos and Laurence Sanchez's luxury wedding in Venice.
- 0:50Speaker 3: But first joining me now is IPA Senior Fellow and
- 0:53Speaker 3: chief economist Adam Crichton. Adam, let's start with some pretty
- 0:57Speaker 3: alarming news here. The A and zaders raised concerns about
- 1:00Speaker 3: supply chain vulnerabilities, saying we can't bank.
- 1:03Speaker 2: On food security of all the things. So is this
- 1:07Speaker 2: actually a.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Problem, and if so, how did we get here and
- 1:10Speaker 3: how do we fix it?
- 1:13Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:13Speaker 5: Well, certainly it might not seem like a problem. This
- 1:16Speaker 5: Australia does, I think, export roughly three times as much
- 1:19Speaker 5: food as it actually consumes itself.
- 1:21Speaker 4: But there are some key.
- 1:22Speaker 5: Vulnerabilities that that report rightly pointed out.
- 1:24Speaker 4: You know, the big one actually being fuel stocks.
- 1:27Speaker 5: We only keep about fixed about fifty six days worth
- 1:31Speaker 5: of fuel in Australia. If there was some sort of
- 1:33Speaker 5: trade war or or heaven forbid, an actual war, we're
- 1:36Speaker 5: supposed to keep ninety days, so that's obviously a big
- 1:39Speaker 5: gap there. And critical ingredients to the farming process, such
- 1:43Speaker 5: as fertilizer, they come from the Middle East and China.
- 1:45Speaker 5: We don't actually make those ourselves. So I think the
- 1:47Speaker 5: AZD is right to point these things out. But I
- 1:50Speaker 5: must say I was a bit surprised that the an
- 1:52Speaker 5: Z was saying this because as far as I understand it,
- 1:54Speaker 5: they are big supporters of net zero, and one of
- 1:57Speaker 5: the biggest threats to our food security going forward is
- 2:00Speaker 5: actually net zero, because that would mean if we're going
- 2:02Speaker 5: to achieve our solar and wind targets by twenty fifty
- 2:05Speaker 5: some thirty percent of Australian prime agricultural laran would actually
- 2:09Speaker 5: be covered in solar panels and wind turbines. So that is,
- 2:12Speaker 5: you know, the number one problem I would say for
- 2:14Speaker 5: our food security, apart from that.
- 2:16Speaker 4: Fuel issue that I just mentioned before.
- 2:18Speaker 5: But certainly we have to scrap the net zero fantasy
- 2:21Speaker 5: if we do want to maintain our food security and
- 2:23Speaker 5: of course also energy security for that matter as well.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Absolutely, and plenty of the big banks are very much
- 2:32Speaker 3: opposed to funding what they fossil fuel related projects, so
- 2:37Speaker 3: that there just makes a big issue even bigger than
- 2:40Speaker 3: it already is onto the alban Easy labor government, and
- 2:43Speaker 3: it's said that a priority for them is big tech
- 2:46Speaker 3: paying for news. Now, look, we saw legislation of this
- 2:49Speaker 3: nature under the Morrison government. So what's the catalyst for
- 2:53Speaker 3: this for labor and how does it differ from what
- 2:55Speaker 3: we've seen before.
- 2:58Speaker 5: Well, certainly I'm very sympathetic to this legislation. I think
- 3:01Speaker 5: those payments from Facebook and Google to Australia's major media
- 3:05Speaker 5: companies have been very important in keeping journalists employed. But
- 3:09Speaker 5: it's going to be a very very tricky few months,
- 3:12Speaker 5: I would say for the Albanese government on this issue.
- 3:14Speaker 5: They are supposedly committed to it, but the tech giants
- 3:18Speaker 5: themselves obviously hate it. They don't want to pay this money.
- 3:21Speaker 5: And we've seen in other countries such as Canada. Actually
- 3:24Speaker 5: just a few hours ago, we've seen the government there
- 3:26Speaker 5: dump a similar piece of legislation to Australia. It's not
- 3:29Speaker 5: exactly the same they called it a digital services tax,
- 3:32Speaker 5: but it had largely the same effect. And this is
- 3:34Speaker 5: something that Donald Trump himself has been railing against. And
- 3:37Speaker 5: so the Canadian government has had to dump it to
- 3:39Speaker 5: start their trade negotiation.
- 3:41Speaker 4: So who knows what's.
- 3:42Speaker 5: Going to happen in the Australian case, but I must
- 3:44Speaker 5: say it's probably something the US is going to balk
- 3:47Speaker 5: at when we start our trade negotiations with the US
- 3:51Speaker 5: as well.
- 3:52Speaker 4: So that's just what this watched this space.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I mean.
- 3:55Speaker 5: The other issue I think worth mentioning on this is
- 3:57Speaker 5: is the Australian publishers have to be careful they wish
- 4:00Speaker 5: for is if they do insist on this that if
- 4:02Speaker 5: the government, of course insists on this, it may well
- 4:04Speaker 5: be the case that Facebook and Google just decided to
- 4:06Speaker 5: block to block Australian news entirely which of course they
- 4:10Speaker 5: could technically do.
- 4:11Speaker 4: So it's a very fraught area. So you know, I
- 4:14Speaker 4: think I think.
- 4:14Speaker 5: We're all for good quality journalism, and like I said,
- 4:18Speaker 5: I'm very sympathetic to those payments.
- 4:19Speaker 4: It's just going to be you know, I.
- 4:20Speaker 5: Would say, probably hard to keep them.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, And it will be interesting to see
- 4:27Speaker 3: that in those trade negotiations, what makes it through and
- 4:30Speaker 3: what goes out in the wash Chalmers and albin Esi,
- 4:33Speaker 3: they've already kicked off a conversation about tax reform.
- 4:36Speaker 2: More broadly, I'm not sure.
- 4:38Speaker 3: They can put that genie back in the bottle, and
- 4:40Speaker 3: there's conversations about a number of things, including potential changes
- 4:44Speaker 3: to the GST.
- 4:46Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this.
- 4:49Speaker 5: Well, just more broadlyyond tax reform. You think that a
- 4:51Speaker 5: second term government would have some idea what it's doing,
- 4:53Speaker 5: but they don't really seem to in this regard. They
- 4:55Speaker 5: don't seem to have a clear path. I know that
- 4:57Speaker 5: there's this so called activity round table coming up. You
- 5:01Speaker 5: know we've had you know, we've had dozens of those
- 5:03Speaker 5: over the years. Look, the GST has always talked about
- 5:07Speaker 5: you know, most economists say we should increase the rate
- 5:10Speaker 5: I'm you know, I'm firmly against that, because once you
- 5:12Speaker 5: increase the rate of the GST, it just has a
- 5:14Speaker 5: tendency to go up and up again.
- 5:16Speaker 4: I mean, these these gsts, these.
- 5:18Speaker 5: Vats were introduced in Europe in the fifties and sixties,
- 5:21Speaker 5: and they started out at low rates, and of course
- 5:23Speaker 5: you know now they are at twenty percent in some cases,
- 5:25Speaker 5: or even more I think in some countries, and I
- 5:27Speaker 5: fear that's what would happen here.
- 5:28Speaker 4: They are a very efficient way to raise money GST gsts.
- 5:32Speaker 5: They're very sneaky, if you like, because you don't know
- 5:34Speaker 5: you're paying tax when you go shopping. Of course you know,
- 5:36Speaker 5: you theoretically know you are, but you don't actually feel
- 5:39Speaker 5: like you're paying tax. And that's why they are such
- 5:41Speaker 5: a clever way to raise money. And I worry about it,
- 5:44Speaker 5: you know, as someone who supports a smaller government, I
- 5:46Speaker 5: don't like highly efficient ways necessarily or sneaky ways to
- 5:49Speaker 5: raise money. I mean, I am more partial if they
- 5:52Speaker 5: actually change it to broadening the base and not changing
- 5:55Speaker 5: the rate, But I would only support that if every
- 5:57Speaker 5: single extra dollar was used to cut income tax. And sadly,
- 6:01Speaker 5: I don't think that this sort of government would do that.
- 6:03Speaker 5: You know, they have a spending problem ultimately, and they
- 6:05Speaker 5: need more revenue. That's you know, that's the big problem.
- 6:08Speaker 5: I mean, I think, as Peter Costello said just recently,
- 6:10Speaker 5: we don't really have a taxation problem. We have a
- 6:12Speaker 5: spending problem. It's growing far too fast and even faster.
- 6:15Speaker 4: Than braphit creep. So they need to get hold of
- 6:17Speaker 4: that first.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Look.
- 6:20Speaker 3: And I have some sympathy for broadening the base run
- 6:24Speaker 3: my own business and you know those conversations about what
- 6:26Speaker 3: does and doesn't attract GST and whatever. I like the
- 6:29Speaker 3: idea of broadening the base from the point that it
- 6:31Speaker 3: would simplify it. But your exit point, right, if the
- 6:36Speaker 3: money is not going to be spent, well, then you
- 6:39Speaker 3: know we need to have another conversation, which is the
- 6:42Speaker 3: spending conversation. Now over to the UK and this from
- 6:45Speaker 3: the glaston Brief Music Festival over the.
- 6:48Speaker 6: Weekend, theft to the id F, to the i F
- 6:54Speaker 6: to the id F.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Now UK political commentator Samara Girl I think she summed
- 7:00Speaker 3: it up perfectly with this post on X Nothing says
- 7:03Speaker 3: revolution like chanting death to the IDF. Between Tofu wraps
- 7:07Speaker 3: and mindfulness sessions no, don't jail the Glastow lot.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Just swap the.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Pyramid stage for Gaza and see how long the moral
- 7:15Speaker 3: clarity lasts. Now, the organizers of the festival have condemned
- 7:18Speaker 3: the chant, but Adam, it's pretty horrifying. I'm horrified, but
- 7:23Speaker 3: not entirely surprised given what we've seen. Do you remember
- 7:26Speaker 3: when people at music festivals used to call for peace?
- 7:29Speaker 4: Yes, yes, certainly.
- 7:32Speaker 5: Look, these festivals have just become a forum for you know,
- 7:35Speaker 5: whatever the latest elite fat is, and in this case,
- 7:38Speaker 5: it's you know, chanting your stupid idiotic slogans like that.
- 7:42Speaker 5: You know, I think basically going to reach the point.
- 7:44Speaker 5: I know that BBC copped a lot of flak for
- 7:47Speaker 5: broadcasting that nonsense. They're going to have to have a
- 7:49Speaker 5: ten to fifteen second delay I think on their on
- 7:52Speaker 5: their transmission so they can simply block it because that
- 7:54Speaker 5: is a form of incitement. Obviously, you know, it has
- 7:56Speaker 5: no place at a music festival. It's it's pathetic and
- 7:59Speaker 5: Charlie and let's hope we don't see much more of it,
- 8:02Speaker 5: but I'm sure, but I'm sure we will.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I think we will too. Very unfortunately.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Still on the Middle East, conflict in the idea of
- 8:10Speaker 3: US claim that it's eliminated one of the Hamas honchos
- 8:13Speaker 3: Ha kar Mahammad Issa Alissa.
- 8:15Speaker 2: How big a.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Deal is this, Well, look, I think a reasonably big deal.
- 8:20Speaker 5: I mean the first point I thought here, it's just,
- 8:22Speaker 5: you know, the skill of the Israeli defense forces to
- 8:24Speaker 5: you just snipe off all of these terrorist leaders has
- 8:27Speaker 5: been very impressive, whether it's in Gaza or e Lebanon
- 8:30Speaker 5: or in Iran more recently. So you know, full credit
- 8:33Speaker 5: to them for doing that. And look, if it brings
- 8:35Speaker 5: us closer to peace in the Middle East, that's a
- 8:37Speaker 5: good thing.
- 8:38Speaker 4: You know. One less terrorist, I think is a very
- 8:40Speaker 4: good thing. You know.
- 8:41Speaker 5: My fear is that they'll just promote someone else into
- 8:43Speaker 5: these positions, because you know, there are a lot of crazy,
- 8:47Speaker 5: impassioned people on you know, especially on that side. So
- 8:51Speaker 5: let's hope that it does bring the region to peace.
- 8:53Speaker 4: But I am skeptical about that as well.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Adam.
- 8:58Speaker 3: I think, you know, you can always put another person
- 9:00Speaker 3: into that position. But I think corporate knowledge is just
- 9:03Speaker 3: as important for terrorist organizations as it is for any
- 9:06Speaker 3: other business or organization.
- 9:08Speaker 2: So let's hope it at the very least slows them
- 9:11Speaker 2: down a little bit.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Now, on Friday, the sm P five hundred hit a
- 9:14Speaker 3: record high. What's driving this and is this sustainable or
- 9:18Speaker 3: are we getting towards the top?
- 9:22Speaker 5: Well, look, I would say it's not entirely sustainable. You
- 9:24Speaker 5: always have to be very wary when the stock markets
- 9:26Speaker 5: are at record pigs. I'm old enough to remember back
- 9:28Speaker 5: in the early two thousands the dot com boom and
- 9:31Speaker 5: then of course the dot com bust where markets fell
- 9:33Speaker 5: a good twenty five twenty five percent in a few months.
- 9:37Speaker 4: In most economists and.
- 9:38Speaker 5: Financial experts would say that these these levels in the
- 9:41Speaker 5: markets are not sustained by fundamentals. It's all driven ultimately
- 9:45Speaker 5: by the so called fang stocks, the tech stocks, you know,
- 9:48Speaker 5: and the chip stocks, I might add in video they're
- 9:51Speaker 5: training at extraordinary multiples. There is a lot of optimism now.
- 9:54Speaker 5: And look full credit to Trumpet. You know, he was
- 9:56Speaker 5: criticized for his you know, his tariffs. Everyone was saying
- 9:59Speaker 5: there's to be high inflation, there was going to be recession.
- 10:01Speaker 4: That has not happened at all yet.
- 10:03Speaker 5: Look at good still, but certainly the forecast from earlier
- 10:06Speaker 5: this year about high rates of inflation.
- 10:08Speaker 4: Now falling stock markets. They have not come true at all.
- 10:10Speaker 5: So so Trump has been proved right once again, I
- 10:14Speaker 5: would say on this. So let's hope, you know, he
- 10:17Speaker 5: continues to be right, because of course it's much better
- 10:19Speaker 5: to have a high market than.
- 10:20Speaker 4: A low market.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Yeah, just yesterday Australia received a shot over the bow
- 10:26Speaker 3: from the Chinese ambassador to Australia arguing against us increasing
- 10:29Speaker 3: our defense spending.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Well isn't that just enough in itself to encourage us
- 10:34Speaker 2: to do it?
- 10:37Speaker 5: Well, look, clearly, of course, you know, China does not
- 10:39Speaker 5: want us to increase our defense spending, and that's the
- 10:42Speaker 5: aim I think of the Chinese ambassador's letter in the
- 10:44Speaker 5: Australian his remarks there, because if we increase our defense
- 10:48Speaker 5: spending then they're probably going to have to spend more
- 10:50Speaker 5: on their as well, and they don't really want to
- 10:51Speaker 5: do that. So there's a bit of brinkmanship on both sides.
- 10:54Speaker 5: I do feel sorry for Albo here, the Prime Minister,
- 10:57Speaker 5: I should say, anth the Alberinezi, because you know he's
- 11:00Speaker 5: yet to have his meeting with Trump. He still hasn't
- 11:02Speaker 5: got that meeting, which is rather embarrassing. But of course
- 11:05Speaker 5: the Chinese are our biggest customer. You know, without them,
- 11:07Speaker 5: you know, we'd have probably.
- 11:09Speaker 4: A dollar in the worth forty cents.
- 11:11Speaker 5: So so it's a difficult position for Australia. Certainly, I
- 11:14Speaker 5: think that they should lift defense spending here.
- 11:17Speaker 4: We don't spend enough.
- 11:18Speaker 5: And you know, regardless of whether you agree with US
- 11:22Speaker 5: calls to for Australia to increase their defense spending, we
- 11:25Speaker 5: simply don't don't spend enough. We have a small population,
- 11:27Speaker 5: a huge continent, and you know, we barely have two
- 11:29Speaker 5: or three submarines that actually function, let alone an air force.
- 11:34Speaker 5: So we need to spend a lot more. The IPA
- 11:36Speaker 5: has come out with figure I think three percent. You know,
- 11:40Speaker 5: the exact the exact financial figure is of course hard
- 11:42Speaker 5: to pick, but we certainly needed.
- 11:44Speaker 4: We need a lot more capability than we currently have.
- 11:48Speaker 3: And I think that's the issue. It's what's the value
- 11:50Speaker 3: for the spend. Right, you can spend three percent, but
- 11:53Speaker 3: if you're not building what you absolutely need, then it
- 11:56Speaker 3: actually really doesn't matter.
- 11:58Speaker 2: And just last, oh, yes, problem I finish.
- 12:00Speaker 5: Sorry, Sorry, no, I was just going to say the
- 12:03Speaker 5: problem is when you specify a figure. Of course, the
- 12:05Speaker 5: defense contractors can just with their prices per unit, so
- 12:08Speaker 5: you don't actually get much more, you just sped more.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exactly the point.
- 12:13Speaker 3: And just lastly, and our peding the AFR about malaise
- 12:17Speaker 3: approaching economic approach in Argentina label him as.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Going for broke.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Now, look, he's pretty unconventional, but is going for broke working?
- 12:28Speaker 5: Well, yes, I think it is so far. I mean,
- 12:29Speaker 5: of course, there are some teething problems. It's been a
- 12:32Speaker 5: a huge bang set of reforms over there, but I
- 12:34Speaker 5: think the signs are very good so far. I mean
- 12:36Speaker 5: the rental market for incis, there's been big falls in rents,
- 12:38Speaker 5: big creases in housing supply because he's got rid of
- 12:41Speaker 5: a lot of regulations. I mean, the whole point there
- 12:43Speaker 5: is to tear up red tape, to tear up green tape,
- 12:46Speaker 5: and that's what he's been doing. I mean, of course,
- 12:47Speaker 5: there's the famous picture of him with the chainsaw that
- 12:50Speaker 5: pretty much sums up his attitude to changes in regulations,
- 12:54Speaker 5: and that's what that country needed. I mean, remember, at
- 12:56Speaker 5: the turn of the century, last century, say nineteen hundred,
- 12:58Speaker 5: Argentina and Australia the two richest countries in the world.
- 13:01Speaker 5: And of course Argentina got very very poor, and it's
- 13:05Speaker 5: still very very poor now, but that it is turning
- 13:07Speaker 5: the corner and if anything, we should be inspired by him.
- 13:11Speaker 4: And you know, we need our own Mille here in Australia.
- 13:13Speaker 5: I think otherwise we risk the same fate that befell
- 13:17Speaker 5: Argentina last century.
- 13:20Speaker 3: Well, there's definitely a world of warning that maybe a
- 13:22Speaker 3: little less regulation can go an awful long way. Thank
- 13:25Speaker 3: you so much, Adam Crichton for your insights.
- 13:27Speaker 4: Thanks very much for having me.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Joining me now is Liberal Senator Alex Antique. Alex, I
- 13:33Speaker 3: feel like we've come off peak. Welcome to country. Even
- 13:37Speaker 3: Quantus is subjecting us to a more truncated version in
- 13:40Speaker 3: recent months. You were one of the early objectives to
- 13:43Speaker 3: the practice. But gosh, we've seen a few recent examples
- 13:46Speaker 3: of some pushback.
- 13:47Speaker 7: Haven We Yeah, look, Carolyn, we have, and I mean
- 13:51Speaker 7: it's not particularly surprising. I think the only thing that's
- 13:53Speaker 7: surprising is that politics in our institutions take so long
- 13:57Speaker 7: catch up to what real Australians are thinking. Been the
- 14:00Speaker 7: thing that's been most stark for me. I mean, we
- 14:03Speaker 7: had a bit a noise about this in the Senate
- 14:04Speaker 7: chamber two years ago, and I've never seen anything explode
- 14:07Speaker 7: in the world of social media more to be quite honest,
- 14:10Speaker 7: I mean, it was clearly touching a nerve to suggest
- 14:12Speaker 7: that we don't need to be welcome to our own country.
- 14:15Speaker 1: And I think he's a sick of it, you know.
- 14:16Speaker 7: I think whatever the original intent of this was, you know,
- 14:21Speaker 7: it's been lost and it now feels quite performative and
- 14:24Speaker 7: almost quite forced.
- 14:26Speaker 8: You know.
- 14:26Speaker 1: It feels almost like it's being used.
- 14:27Speaker 7: Now as a way of telling people that they're not
- 14:30Speaker 7: on their own land, that they are effectively guests on
- 14:34Speaker 7: their own land. And I mean it's not hard to
- 14:36Speaker 7: imagine why that would rile people up, you know. I
- 14:40Speaker 7: think unfortunately politics doesn't always see these things quickly. We
- 14:45Speaker 7: saw that with the Voice. It was very clear Australians
- 14:47Speaker 7: didn't want the Voice. It was very clear it was
- 14:49Speaker 7: another form of division, and yet it took until the
- 14:54Speaker 7: October period where we actually learned that that was the
- 14:56Speaker 7: case in a secret ballot. So I think we're seeing
- 14:59Speaker 7: this with Welcome the Country. I was actually on an
- 15:02Speaker 7: airline the other day. They didn't do it at all,
- 15:04Speaker 7: and it sort of stuck out because I was so
- 15:06Speaker 7: used to hearing it. When the plane lands. You know,
- 15:08Speaker 7: we thank the traditional owners and so forth, and they
- 15:11Speaker 7: didn't do it. So look, I think we are. My
- 15:13Speaker 7: point about this, though, would be that the activist left
- 15:17Speaker 7: who push this, and they push it into our boardrooms,
- 15:19Speaker 7: into our schools, they will come up with something else.
- 15:22Speaker 7: So the interest for me now is understanding what it is,
- 15:25Speaker 7: which vehicle they'll hijack next in order to properly push
- 15:29Speaker 7: the grievance industry. And if so, let's find out what
- 15:33Speaker 7: it is earlily so that we can call it out.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Early and not have to endure years and years of
- 15:36Speaker 1: it like we have we Welcome the Country ceremonies.
- 15:40Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Senator Pauline Hanson, she's also long objected
- 15:44Speaker 3: to Welcome to Country. She criticized Opposition leader Susan lay
- 15:48Speaker 3: for her acknowledgment at Press Club.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Have Listened.
- 15:50Speaker 9: I was disgusted, absolutely disgusted with it because the Liberals,
- 15:54Speaker 9: you know they're getting, they're getting acknowledgments. They are the
- 15:57Speaker 9: ones that actually opposed to Parliament.
- 16:01Speaker 2: What a load of rubbish that is. Australians.
- 16:03Speaker 9: I'll tell you out there, you are the ones. You
- 16:06Speaker 9: are deciding your future and the future of this nation.
- 16:09Speaker 9: If you want to put up with this rubbish, this crap, Well,
- 16:11Speaker 9: then you are.
- 16:12Speaker 2: To blame for it, Pauline Shai.
- 16:15Speaker 3: As always, I suspect there will be varying views within
- 16:18Speaker 3: the party room and that's pretty standard fair for the
- 16:21Speaker 3: Liberal Party.
- 16:22Speaker 2: But what's your view on how the Liberal should approach.
- 16:24Speaker 7: These Well, I'm not sure there really is a position
- 16:28Speaker 7: for the party per se. I mean, this is something
- 16:31Speaker 7: that's done in the private sector and elsewhere. I mean
- 16:34Speaker 7: I'm not comfortable with it appearing as often as it
- 16:36Speaker 7: does in government ranks through the bureaucracy. I think that's
- 16:38Speaker 7: something that could could be discussed as being removed.
- 16:42Speaker 1: But I mean it's up to each individual person.
- 16:44Speaker 7: Of course, there are divergence of views on the issue
- 16:47Speaker 7: inside the party and that's completely fine. My own personal
- 16:50Speaker 7: view is that I don't like it and I don't
- 16:54Speaker 7: like seeing it as often as we do, and also
- 16:56Speaker 7: I don't understand what it's actually doing for Aboriginal people.
- 16:59Speaker 7: I want someone who blame to me how this helps
- 17:01Speaker 7: and if it doesn't, then it's performative. And we always
- 17:04Speaker 7: hear from the left how the right of politics only
- 17:06Speaker 7: talks about the culture wars. Well, you know, you can't
- 17:09Speaker 7: have it both ways. So you know this is really
- 17:12Speaker 7: doing some good for Aboriginal people, then let's hear it.
- 17:14Speaker 7: Let's find out how otherwise my preference is to stay
- 17:17Speaker 7: away from it.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.
- 17:20Speaker 3: And an interesting story in the e is about the
- 17:22Speaker 3: king Makers in the Senate during the last parliament, how
- 17:25Speaker 3: they plan to take on Labor this time around. You
- 17:28Speaker 3: obviously sit in that chamber. What's their strategy and will
- 17:31Speaker 3: it work well?
- 17:33Speaker 7: I read the article that I read the comments, and
- 17:35Speaker 7: I think that's just the real politic of it, in
- 17:38Speaker 7: the sense that the last term, I think all of
- 17:40Speaker 7: them were involved in pretty serious discussions with the government
- 17:45Speaker 7: about the passage of legislation throughout the Senate chamber, and
- 17:49Speaker 7: at one time or another may have held the balance
- 17:51Speaker 7: of power.
- 17:52Speaker 1: I think.
- 17:52Speaker 7: So it's going to be a very difficult landscape or
- 17:56Speaker 7: different landscape for these cross bench senators. The wash up
- 18:00Speaker 7: of it is that Labor really just need the Greens
- 18:03Speaker 7: in order to pass legislation, which is in.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Itself a worry.
- 18:05Speaker 7: I mean, you know, in many respects we might have
- 18:07Speaker 7: to look back to the good hotels of having the
- 18:10Speaker 7: last parliament, of having the cross bench control in the
- 18:12Speaker 7: show they did a very good job, I might say,
- 18:14Speaker 7: by shooting down the misinformation laws, and we're very sensible
- 18:18Speaker 7: on that and probably many other things as well. But
- 18:21Speaker 7: now in this case they're going to have to find
- 18:22Speaker 7: another way through for relevance. They have said, and David
- 18:24Speaker 7: Pocock has said that using the media and using their
- 18:27Speaker 7: voice that way is the way to do it.
- 18:29Speaker 1: And I think that's what we'll see. I think we'll
- 18:30Speaker 1: see more and more.
- 18:32Speaker 7: Statements in the Chamber, more and more statements in the media,
- 18:35Speaker 7: and that is there absolute right and that's what our
- 18:38Speaker 7: democracy is all about.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Yeah, O one hundred percent agree with that, and it'll
- 18:43Speaker 3: be very interesting to.
- 18:43Speaker 2: See what that looks like over the course of the term.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Now Tony Burke, he appears to be walking both sides
- 18:49Speaker 3: of the street again, this time is blaming the High
- 18:51Speaker 3: Court for making it too hard to debat some immigrant criminals.
- 18:55Speaker 2: How much is it the High Court and how much
- 18:57Speaker 2: is it just a lack of political will to deal
- 19:00Speaker 2: that well, Like, I.
- 19:02Speaker 7: Think this is always a point of interest where you
- 19:05Speaker 7: have politicians who are in government, by the way, just
- 19:07Speaker 7: for the sake of the argument, we should just really
- 19:10Speaker 7: who have the ability the legislative ability to do pretty
- 19:13Speaker 7: much what they like now and to sort of lean
- 19:15Speaker 7: into the argument that somehow this is the High Court's
- 19:17Speaker 7: fault is utterly ludicrous. Frankly, I mean, it just doesn't
- 19:21Speaker 7: make sense.
- 19:22Speaker 1: The only thing you.
- 19:22Speaker 7: Could say is that we're in a hiatus with Parliament
- 19:24Speaker 7: at the moment. There's not the ability to pass laws now.
- 19:26Speaker 7: But look, we've heard this before with the arguments about
- 19:29Speaker 7: the courts do this and the courts do that. The
- 19:31Speaker 7: reality is is the government's job, one of its primary jobs,
- 19:34Speaker 7: to keep Australian safe in their own country and we
- 19:37Speaker 7: expect that out of our Immigration minister. Any finger pointing,
- 19:40Speaker 7: any blame is simply not acceptable. So I don't accept
- 19:45Speaker 7: that at all. If the Government thinks there's something that
- 19:47Speaker 7: should be done, they should be doing it themselves, not
- 19:49Speaker 7: blaming the High Court.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Now onto the least surprising story of the day, and
- 19:55Speaker 3: a twelve point five billion dollar Central Queensline hydrogen project
- 19:59Speaker 3: has been acted. The boondoggles abiding the dust pretty hard,
- 20:03Speaker 3: aren't they at the moment?
- 20:05Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's look, I mean it's it's sort of,
- 20:07Speaker 7: as you say, the least surprising thing you could hear,
- 20:09Speaker 7: and it's reassuring in one sense, except that you know,
- 20:12Speaker 7: we're still, of course through through the political spectrum making
- 20:15Speaker 7: the same mistakes every single day with intermittent power, green
- 20:18Speaker 7: and you know so called green power, solar and wind.
- 20:21Speaker 1: But yes, this is the first one. And of course
- 20:23Speaker 1: those of us.
- 20:23Speaker 7: That have always said let's let the market decide what's
- 20:26Speaker 7: good power and what's bad power just shake our heads
- 20:29Speaker 7: at this.
- 20:29Speaker 1: This was never going to work.
- 20:31Speaker 7: And in fact these things have a habit of these
- 20:33Speaker 7: green hydrogen so called green hydrogen propositions seem to get
- 20:37Speaker 7: no further past than feasibility studies, and the private sector
- 20:40Speaker 7: drops them. So I mean this is the this is
- 20:42Speaker 7: the issue with this so called intermittent renewable power is
- 20:46Speaker 7: it really doesn't stand on its own two feet without
- 20:49Speaker 7: government intervention. Here in South Australia, we've seen at least
- 20:53Speaker 7: two projects that have been that have been dropped I think,
- 20:56Speaker 7: in recent times, and yet we keep getting told that
- 20:59Speaker 7: by the male Ouskislav government here that we're going to
- 21:01Speaker 7: be a green energy superpowder. Quite how you export enough
- 21:05Speaker 7: through wind and solar is anyone's guest. But putting that
- 21:08Speaker 7: little anomaly aside, I think this is where we're going
- 21:11Speaker 7: with this. The tragedy of at all, Karen is that
- 21:14Speaker 7: before the penny drops that the entire grieb is going
- 21:17Speaker 7: to be in a catastrophe. It is not already, and
- 21:20Speaker 7: so we're actually learning this liston on the run.
- 21:22Speaker 1: And where we shouldn't be.
- 21:23Speaker 7: I mean, this is one of the many arguments for
- 21:25Speaker 7: why net zero needs to be dropped immediately, and we
- 21:27Speaker 7: need to get on with getting the cheapest power we
- 21:29Speaker 7: can by any means.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Yeah, cheap and reliable.
- 21:35Speaker 3: That is absolutely what our country needs for its future prosperity.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Thank you as always, Alexantik still it to Kam and
- 21:42Speaker 3: Josh Hammer joins me to break down Donald Trump's big
- 21:45Speaker 3: beautiful bill. Plus, everyone's favorite left is losing it. Now
- 21:54Speaker 3: it's time for lefties losing it. And the lefties in
- 21:57Speaker 3: the US are absolutely feral about a recent Supreme Court
- 22:00Speaker 3: ruling in the birthright citizenship case. This explicive, ridden red
- 22:05Speaker 3: sums up the compassionate left perfectly. Please excuse all the bleeping.
- 22:12Speaker 10: All I gotta say is we're so constitution we don't
- 22:16Speaker 10: have a constitution anymore. Nope, I mean, what the Supreme
- 22:22Speaker 10: Court trump all this States of America seventeen seventy six,
- 22:29Speaker 10: fourth of July.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Goll of it.
- 22:32Speaker 11: Whatever we even fought for all of this.
- 22:38Speaker 3: And Marga, what a compelling argument. But at least that
- 22:43Speaker 3: lady is just an ordinary citizen. This next video is
- 22:46Speaker 3: a Democrat congresswoman who's holding a series of shadow hearings
- 22:51Speaker 3: while on the Immigration Subcommittee.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Check this out.
- 22:54Speaker 12: We have been trying to shine a light on the
- 22:56Speaker 12: Immigration Subcommittee. We're in the minority, obviously, so we can't
- 22:59Speaker 12: do it for but I've started doing a series of
- 23:02Speaker 12: shadow hearings to shine a light on all of the
- 23:05Speaker 12: ways that the government is attacking immigrants and the legal
- 23:08Speaker 12: immigration system. The first one was on third country deportations.
- 23:13Speaker 12: The whole series is called kidnapped and disappeared.
- 23:16Speaker 3: What a shocker, But I think a lot of these
- 23:18Speaker 3: could be sorted out with better education and information.
- 23:21Speaker 2: But the polar opposite of.
- 23:23Speaker 13: This, did you know that the term good morning was
- 23:27Speaker 13: originated when our ancestors were being held as captives during
- 23:31Speaker 13: so called slavery. Slave owners, after spending all night torturing, murdering,
- 23:36Speaker 13: and kidnapping their loved ones would greet them at sunrise
- 23:40Speaker 13: with did you have a good morning? That was their
- 23:42Speaker 13: way of mocking us because they knew that we had
- 23:44Speaker 13: just spent all night crying and mourning the loss of
- 23:47Speaker 13: our loved ones.
- 23:48Speaker 3: And as time goes by and the world becomes increasingly bunkers,
- 23:53Speaker 3: I really understand people who choose to homeschool their.
- 23:56Speaker 14: Kids so parents can now pull their kids from lessons
- 24:01Speaker 14: that have LGBTQ components. All right, you know, as a teacher,
- 24:08Speaker 14: I don't give a shit because I'll just give them
- 24:10Speaker 14: an assignment that basically covers like America descending into fascism
- 24:16Speaker 14: or hypocrisy, and I'll use Trump and the Republicans for that.
- 24:21Speaker 14: Like I don't care, I'll go after them anyway. I'll
- 24:25Speaker 14: just give them a lesson that hits even harder.
- 24:28Speaker 2: But don't worry. There's apparently a coup coming.
- 24:31Speaker 8: Our base has a lot of activity.
- 24:33Speaker 10: There have been four black Hawk helicopters, several jets, and
- 24:38Speaker 10: several sea force full of equipment taking off today.
- 24:41Speaker 2: I'm hoping that today is the day.
- 24:45Speaker 10: However, it may be tomorrow, but it looks like they're
- 24:49Speaker 10: moving very quickly and they're taking this seriously.
- 24:51Speaker 8: So be on the lookout.
- 24:53Speaker 2: I will update you as soon as I can. Insider said,
- 24:57Speaker 2: it is time for us to an issue. Okay, so
- 25:01Speaker 2: let's do this, guys, Let's do it.
- 25:03Speaker 3: For the love of Baby Jesus send the asteroid. Joining
- 25:07Speaker 3: me now is Newsweek saying your editor at large and
- 25:09Speaker 3: article three Senior project counts with Josh Hammer Josh Plenty
- 25:13Speaker 3: of commentary in theater around the passing of Trump's big
- 25:16Speaker 3: beautiful bill in the US Senate.
- 25:18Speaker 8: What's the bill about and why all the fuss?
- 25:22Speaker 6: Well, this is the one major budget bill that has
- 25:25Speaker 6: set to be passed in the US Congress this year,
- 25:28Speaker 6: so it's one more complicated than that. It goes back
- 25:30Speaker 6: to my nineteen seventy four statute here called the Budget
- 25:33Speaker 6: Control Act, which introduced this process that on Capitol Hill
- 25:38Speaker 6: they referred to as reconciliation. It's kind of in the
- 25:40Speaker 6: weeds parliamentary terms. What it basically means is that you
- 25:44Speaker 6: have one shot. You basically have one shot to pass
- 25:47Speaker 6: a budgetary fiscal revenue related bill, not necessarily with a
- 25:52Speaker 6: sixty vote veto or filibuster proof majority, but where they
- 25:56Speaker 6: bear fifty one vote majority, because actually get one bite
- 25:59Speaker 6: at the apple to pass a clean fifty one vote
- 26:02Speaker 6: bill that happens to be the so called one big
- 26:04Speaker 6: beautiful bill. Now, the problem is that because of the
- 26:09Speaker 6: arcade nature of this reconciliation procedure, there was an individual
- 26:12Speaker 6: called the Senate parliamentarian who who can essentially strip certain
- 26:16Speaker 6: parts of the bill to make sure that it accords
- 26:19Speaker 6: with the ultimate goal, which is to reduce the budget deficits.
- 26:21Speaker 6: That's a very fans way of saying. That's been very
- 26:23Speaker 6: contentious because a lot of people are trying to add
- 26:25Speaker 6: provisions that are not necessarily going to pass the Senate
- 26:28Speaker 6: Parliament Senate parlamentarians, excuse me his or his muster, but
- 26:33Speaker 6: this is important President Trump for the following reason, and
- 26:35Speaker 6: I'll be brief here, which is that this is Donald
- 26:38Speaker 6: Trump's national most popularist sentiment in action. Once upon a time,
- 26:41Speaker 6: the Republican Party, when it was ruled by a tea party,
- 26:44Speaker 6: more libertarian strength the government, it all costed flavor. This
- 26:47Speaker 6: sort of thing would have been anathema. I mean, the
- 26:49Speaker 6: party that folks like Mike Lee and Ran Paul came
- 26:52Speaker 6: of agent in twenty ten around then was all about
- 26:55Speaker 6: trying to kind of get back to the traditional congressional
- 26:57Speaker 6: appropriations process. The notion that you would actually just get
- 27:00Speaker 6: it all into what Trump calls in one big beautiful
- 27:02Speaker 6: bill is actually very different, and that speaks about the
- 27:05Speaker 6: national's populist maga dominance of today's Republican Party. So the
- 27:08Speaker 6: fact that that it looks like that there are going
- 27:10Speaker 6: to be fifty one Republican Senators at least on board
- 27:13Speaker 6: to get this thing through, my big takeaway, Caroline, is
- 27:16Speaker 6: that this is Donald Trump's Republican Party, period, full stop,
- 27:18Speaker 6: end of story.
- 27:20Speaker 2: It would be very interesting to say, that's for sure.
- 27:23Speaker 3: And speaking of us, the Democrat primary for the New
- 27:25Speaker 3: York mayoral candidsy last week, well that had us all enthralled.
- 27:30Speaker 3: And look, I understand there's some concern around Mandami's budgetary
- 27:34Speaker 3: views and whether that will take New.
- 27:36Speaker 2: York back to the bad old days.
- 27:38Speaker 3: The front page of the New York Post was in
- 27:40Speaker 3: blazon with the headline the price is White.
- 27:45Speaker 2: That is quite the headline.
- 27:46Speaker 6: What's the concern, Well, the concern is that he's literally
- 27:49Speaker 6: talking about punitive taxation on white people, on white people,
- 27:54Speaker 6: or essentially anyone on the intersectional identity politics scale of
- 28:00Speaker 6: aggrieved interests or victimhoods who do not necessarily meet hishire.
- 28:03Speaker 6: I mean, Caroline, this guy is a full fledged democratic
- 28:06Speaker 6: socialist at best. Would I would call him a communist frankly,
- 28:09Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I mean, this is someone who
- 28:11Speaker 6: says literally every crazy far left left wing platitude imaginable.
- 28:17Speaker 6: I mean, if Black Lives Matter has said it, if
- 28:19Speaker 6: defund the Police, defund Ice has said it there, if
- 28:22Speaker 6: the Hamas crazies post October seven has said it. If
- 28:25Speaker 6: they've said it, then this guy believes it. He believes
- 28:28Speaker 6: in anything and everything that the furthest left members of
- 28:31Speaker 6: the United States Democratic Party believe there. This is someone
- 28:34Speaker 6: who was who was who was condemning Israel within minutes
- 28:37Speaker 6: of the October seventh Pagram that that slaughter more Jews
- 28:41Speaker 6: any than any days in Zadolf Tayler and the Nazis.
- 28:43Speaker 6: I mean, this is someone who who literally everything that
- 28:46Speaker 6: comes out of his mouth is basically right for a
- 28:48Speaker 6: Republican National Committee opposition and research out because you can't,
- 28:52Speaker 6: you just can't make this stuff up. I mean, it's
- 28:53Speaker 6: almost too good to be true. The think is why
- 28:56Speaker 6: a lot of National Republicans are actually wetting their chops
- 28:58Speaker 6: in preparation for trying to run against Mam Donnie and
- 29:01Speaker 6: trying to project him as the Baseball Democrats come Fall
- 29:04Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. The obvious problem is that you live
- 29:06Speaker 6: in New York City, you have to suffer under this
- 29:09Speaker 6: guy who's likely to become the next mayor. Unless Eric
- 29:11Speaker 6: Adams the incoming can pull off a major upset. He's
- 29:13Speaker 6: now running as an independent, probably not going to happen.
- 29:16Speaker 6: His approval ratings are very very low at the moment.
- 29:18Speaker 6: I certainly hope that it does happen there, but I
- 29:21Speaker 6: will I guess I would just say this. There's this
- 29:23Speaker 6: old quote from a brilliant twentieth century American newspaper columnists
- 29:27Speaker 6: and social critic named hl Mankin. Hl Mankin famously said
- 29:30Speaker 6: that democracy is the theory that the common man knows
- 29:33Speaker 6: what he wants and he deserves to get it good
- 29:35Speaker 6: and hard. So part of me, Caroline looks at the
- 29:37Speaker 6: plights of New York City under a prospective mayor, Zora Mamdanni,
- 29:42Speaker 6: and says, you know what, if this is what the
- 29:43Speaker 6: people want, then they're about to get it very good
- 29:45Speaker 6: and very hard.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's exactly right. You get what you vote for.
- 29:50Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more and look at it, and as if
- 29:53Speaker 3: then that's not even the end of it. It really
- 29:55Speaker 3: has been a very event for waking the US with
- 29:57Speaker 3: the US Supreme Court handing down ruling.
- 30:00Speaker 2: On birthright citizenship.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Can you explain this decision to us and what does
- 30:04Speaker 3: that mean for the future of the US immigration policy.
- 30:07Speaker 6: Sure, so, this case was litigated as the so called
- 30:10Speaker 6: birthright Sitienshove case, but the actual ruling on Friday Caroline
- 30:14Speaker 6: did not address the Fourteenth Amendment birthright stationship question. And
- 30:19Speaker 6: I know that's going to sounds a little peculiar and
- 30:20Speaker 6: odd there, but it's because of the way that this
- 30:23Speaker 6: was litigated. So the Trump Department of Justice and these
- 30:26Speaker 6: Slster General John Sower tried to make an appeal to
- 30:29Speaker 6: the Supreme Court, not necessarily on the underlying substance of
- 30:32Speaker 6: question as to whether the Fourteenth Amendment requires that the
- 30:35Speaker 6: children of legal aliens be granted US sitizenship. Rather, he
- 30:38Speaker 6: was trying to make an appeal to the Justice that
- 30:41Speaker 6: the scope of lower court relief should not include the
- 30:44Speaker 6: so called and nationwide injunctions that have hamstrung the Trump
- 30:47Speaker 6: presidency ever since January there So that was actually all
- 30:50Speaker 6: that the Justice ruled on. Now, having said that, with
- 30:53Speaker 6: that large caveat. I'm pleased to report that it was
- 30:55Speaker 6: a fantastic ruling. It was a fantastic six fee ruling
- 30:58Speaker 6: written by Justice Amy Coney, one of the more moderate
- 31:01Speaker 6: Republican nominated justice on the Court of Justice, who I
- 31:04Speaker 6: was certainly having critical of at times myself. But I
- 31:06Speaker 6: was just deeply pleased reading this because Ammy Cone Barra
- 31:09Speaker 6: was really bringing the fire there, and she was adamant
- 31:12Speaker 6: and insistent that the judicial power of which the United
- 31:15Speaker 6: States Constitutions speaks simply cannot countenance these sort of nation
- 31:18Speaker 6: wane injunctions by which a rogue lower court district court
- 31:22Speaker 6: judge out in Hawaii or Florida or Maine or New Hampshire, whatever,
- 31:25Speaker 6: can just bring the entirety of the nation to a
- 31:27Speaker 6: halt there. This is completely anathematic to the American constitutional design. Really,
- 31:31Speaker 6: the craziest part of this was the fact that it
- 31:33Speaker 6: has to be litigated this far at all, and that
- 31:35Speaker 6: you had the three liberal justices who nonetheless found themselves
- 31:38Speaker 6: in the descent. Katanji Brown Jackson in particular, who was
- 31:41Speaker 6: the lead dissenter, was absolutely torn to shreds by Amy
- 31:43Speaker 6: Cone Barrett. It was really beautiful victory. I would say
- 31:46Speaker 6: for the United States Constitution in our elaborate constitutional structure.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting.
- 31:52Speaker 3: And look, we have a not dissimilar structure here in Australia.
- 31:56Speaker 3: But obviously some of those technical diffaut technical differences really
- 32:02Speaker 3: do make a substantive difference. Now, some pretty extraordinary scenes
- 32:06Speaker 3: in the Middle East this week or in recent weeks,
- 32:09Speaker 3: I should say, It's been going on for some time,
- 32:10Speaker 3: and obviously the US administration working closely with the Israelis
- 32:15Speaker 3: on those Iran strikes. But following that, Trump has slammed
- 32:20Speaker 3: Israeli prosecutors of Vernettyaho's corruption trial.
- 32:23Speaker 8: Now, what's this all about?
- 32:24Speaker 2: And are there any potential impacts?
- 32:27Speaker 6: So I was really happy to see Donald Trump do
- 32:29Speaker 6: this because I've been saying for years, Caroline, and that
- 32:32Speaker 6: the plate of Donald Trump here in the United States
- 32:35Speaker 6: when it comes to what I've referred to as the
- 32:36Speaker 6: Democrat lawfare complex, Jack Smith and all the various moving
- 32:41Speaker 6: parts there, Fannie Wills, Alvin Bragg, all the various Democrat
- 32:44Speaker 6: prosecutors that are trying to throw him in jail on
- 32:45Speaker 6: invariably bogus and ridiculous charges. It's actually shockingly similar to
- 32:51Speaker 6: being Netta, who have been feazing over in Israel for
- 32:53Speaker 6: at least four or five years now. I mean, a
- 32:55Speaker 6: lot of these prosecutions go back even further there than
- 32:58Speaker 6: they have for Donald Trump here in the United States.
- 33:00Speaker 6: And you know, I don't live in Israel, not an
- 33:03Speaker 6: expert on each and every case there, but broadly speaking
- 33:05Speaker 6: there based on what I reviewed, and this is just
- 33:07Speaker 6: extraordinarily silly stuff. I mean, the ntsan Yah who's accept
- 33:10Speaker 6: cigars from a donor and that therefore he's the most
- 33:14Speaker 6: corrupt person in the world. There, it's patently silly, and
- 33:17Speaker 6: it's it's made even more silly by the fact that
- 33:19Speaker 6: during the Twelve Day War, the war against Iran that
- 33:22Speaker 6: was just extraordinarily successful for both Israel and the United States.
- 33:24Speaker 6: There they were literally trying to drag Ntiniaku to depose
- 33:28Speaker 6: him during the midst of this conflict. The day after
- 33:30Speaker 6: the war ended, if not mistake, and the judge in
- 33:32Speaker 6: Tel Aviv put outing Rich to say, Okay, mister Prime Minister,
- 33:36Speaker 6: now come back to our court there. It's just totally ridiculous,
- 33:38Speaker 6: and it speaks of a far left deep state rot
- 33:42Speaker 6: not just the United States, not just in Israel. Frankly,
- 33:44Speaker 6: a lot of first Rold democracies face a very similar
- 33:47Speaker 6: problem here, where you have a judiciary and a deep
- 33:50Speaker 6: state prosecutorial apparatus working hand in love. There So for
- 33:54Speaker 6: all those reasons, I was very happy to see Donald
- 33:55Speaker 6: Trump speak out in favor of his friend and ally
- 33:58Speaker 6: Beeping Natanyahu, because they're actually in a shockingly similar predicaments.
- 34:01Speaker 6: The good news is very happy ending for now to
- 34:04Speaker 6: the story is that the Court. The Court actually immediately
- 34:08Speaker 6: moved after Donald Trump posted his second of his two
- 34:10Speaker 6: true social posts to try to expedite some sort of
- 34:13Speaker 6: rapid swift conclusion to at least one of the corruption trials.
- 34:16Speaker 6: So already Trump is getting results.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Very interesting observation there.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Now, another thing about the US involvement in this conflict
- 34:24Speaker 3: in the Middle Ace is the apparently this split amongst
- 34:27Speaker 3: conservatives about the extent and for how long.
- 34:30Speaker 2: The US is involved.
- 34:31Speaker 3: So there was a pace in the Australia media this
- 34:34Speaker 3: week titled Trump's base backs his war as long as
- 34:38Speaker 3: he keeps the pace?
- 34:39Speaker 2: Does this sum up the sentiment?
- 34:42Speaker 6: So, Carol, I have to be caned that I fight.
- 34:44Speaker 6: This is a very common sentiment. By the way, this
- 34:46Speaker 6: is not just Australia and the American media has been
- 34:49Speaker 6: reporting much the same thing over and over over and
- 34:51Speaker 6: over over again. We hear about this alleged there's a rift,
- 34:55Speaker 6: they say in Maga, there's a crushing divide within Maga.
- 34:58Speaker 6: I'm not buying yet because the frankly does not necessarily
- 35:01Speaker 6: hold it up there. So, for instance, there was a
- 35:03Speaker 6: CBS News poll CBS News about his major upholster here
- 35:06Speaker 6: in the US. As a guest, there was a CBS
- 35:08Speaker 6: News poll maybe about a week ago, just after the
- 35:11Speaker 6: Operation mid Night hammer Strikes inside Iran showed that ninety
- 35:15Speaker 6: four percent, ninety four percent of self identified mac Republicans
- 35:20Speaker 6: support President Trump strikes. Literally only six percent object there. Now,
- 35:24Speaker 6: it's very loud six percent, it's very vocal six percent.
- 35:27Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson is probably the most prominent member of the
- 35:29Speaker 6: six percent there, but it's still, ultimately, at the end
- 35:32Speaker 6: of the day, only six percent. And this kind of
- 35:34Speaker 6: gets to what I referred to as the Trump doctrine
- 35:37Speaker 6: of foreign policy. I think a lot of people here
- 35:39Speaker 6: America first, and they immediately think that we're talking here
- 35:42Speaker 6: about a hardcore isolationist mentality where America simply does not
- 35:45Speaker 6: get involved in foreign affairs, but Anyone who was paying
- 35:48Speaker 6: any attention to Donald Trump's first term in office knows
- 35:51Speaker 6: that's not his foreign policy there. Donald Trump is still
- 35:53Speaker 6: the same guy who took out Kasaim Sulimani, the Iranian
- 35:56Speaker 6: arch terrorists in twenty twenty. He took out the founder
- 35:59Speaker 6: of ISIS, Abubakar al Baghdadi the year prior. He was
- 36:02Speaker 6: very tough on Russia when it comes to missile defense,
- 36:05Speaker 6: and on and on we go there. So Donald Trump
- 36:07Speaker 6: is non isolation is. He's also not a moralistic George W.
- 36:11Speaker 6: Bush era neo conservative. He is a nationalist and a realist,
- 36:14Speaker 6: but he's not afraid to strike out in overwhelming powerful
- 36:18Speaker 6: fashion to defend the concrete core American national interest with
- 36:21Speaker 6: the big caveat that. After that, he wants to get
- 36:24Speaker 6: the heck out and not send in the nation building
- 36:26Speaker 6: crusades there. That's exactly what happened in Iran. It was
- 36:29Speaker 6: a smashing success, and that's why ninety four percent of
- 36:31Speaker 6: Magropublicans support it.
- 36:34Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent, thank you, Thank you for that. Definitely improve
- 36:38Speaker 3: my understanding on that point. Now we understand Florida is
- 36:41Speaker 3: building a detention center for undocumented migrants.
- 36:44Speaker 2: It's been dubbed Alligator Alcatraz.
- 36:47Speaker 3: It appears to be working politically very well for DeSantis.
- 36:50Speaker 2: There is some blowback.
- 36:51Speaker 8: Take a look at this, or have your spiritual places.
- 36:57Speaker 1: In your horse to pray for these people who are lost.
- 36:59Speaker 9: They can become human beings.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Cosewen if they're human beings. Again, stop there's always a protest.
- 37:09Speaker 2: But you know this is what this is what people
- 37:12Speaker 2: in the US voted for.
- 37:13Speaker 3: What is the broader sentiment in Florida around the construction
- 37:16Speaker 3: of this detention center.
- 37:19Speaker 6: Well, I do live in Florida. I live not too
- 37:21Speaker 6: terribly far from the Everglades, which is where Alligator Alcatraz
- 37:25Speaker 6: is going to be constructed. There. Look, this is this
- 37:27Speaker 6: is a brilliant move by our amazing governor. On the
- 37:29Speaker 6: sentis our amazing young Attorney General James uth Meyer, who
- 37:33Speaker 6: was formerly the governor's chief of staff now he's our
- 37:35Speaker 6: attorney general. There they're working hand in glove to get
- 37:38Speaker 6: this thing up and running there. They're trying to do
- 37:40Speaker 6: a number of things, but the number one thing that
- 37:41Speaker 6: the try and do, Caroline, is to establish Florida as
- 37:44Speaker 6: the red state that is most willing able and eager
- 37:48Speaker 6: to assist President Donald Trump to assist DHS Secretary Christynome
- 37:52Speaker 6: to assist our so called borders are Tom Homan, in
- 37:55Speaker 6: effectuating what Tom Holman has referred to as the largest
- 37:58Speaker 6: mass deportation of ration in the history of the United States. There,
- 38:01Speaker 6: once upon a time, Florida was a swing state. This
- 38:04Speaker 6: is the state that decided the two thousand presidential election.
- 38:06Speaker 6: Once upon a time, Florida was a state actually that
- 38:09Speaker 6: although people here didn't want to talk about it, there
- 38:11Speaker 6: are a lot of corporations that benefited from illegal alien labor.
- 38:14Speaker 6: All of that has changed under Governor Sandis. Governor Santis
- 38:17Speaker 6: is many things. He's a brilliant leader, brilliant statesman. He's
- 38:20Speaker 6: also very very tough on the illegal immigration issue there
- 38:24Speaker 6: and he leads by example, because the sentiment in this
- 38:26Speaker 6: state has followed run the Sandis there. Again, this is
- 38:28Speaker 6: stated that once upon a time was pretty split down
- 38:31Speaker 6: the middle on the illegal immigration issue. But as as
- 38:33Speaker 6: the Santis has just led through his rhetoric and his
- 38:36Speaker 6: policies and just the way that he says an example there,
- 38:38Speaker 6: the people of Florida have followed. But again, I think
- 38:41Speaker 6: the goal is really to establish Florida as the nation's
- 38:44Speaker 6: leading red state. Dare I say, perhaps even more so
- 38:47Speaker 6: than Texas, which once upon a time was the nation's
- 38:49Speaker 6: most iconic red state. But regardless of how you split it,
- 38:52Speaker 6: whether it's Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Arizona, whatever it is there,
- 38:55Speaker 6: this is very healthy red state competition. Basically red states
- 38:59Speaker 6: essentially trying to out conservative each other, all trying to
- 39:02Speaker 6: kind of win, you know, the ultimate, the ultimate favorable
- 39:05Speaker 6: glance of President Donald Trump. It's a very healthy competition.
- 39:08Speaker 15: I think.
- 39:10Speaker 2: Perfect. Thank you so much for your insights, Josh Hammer,
- 39:14Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Still to come.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Lauren Sanchez's Vogue cover turns heads, plus all the big
- 39:21Speaker 3: storylines from the Jeff Bezos wedding with Kinsey Schofield next
- 39:31Speaker 3: welcome back to the show and joining me now is
- 39:33Speaker 3: to Die For podcast host Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, there has
- 39:37Speaker 3: been so much media coverage of the Bezos wedding over
- 39:39Speaker 3: the weekend, but Katie Courage said Lauren Sanchez's Vogue cover
- 39:44Speaker 3: was tacky, harsh or fair.
- 39:47Speaker 8: Oh my gosh.
- 39:48Speaker 15: Look, I when I think of high fashion, Katie Kirk
- 39:51Speaker 15: as the last person that comes to mind. I think
- 39:54Speaker 15: in this particular instance, she sounds bitter that she wasn't invaded.
- 39:58Speaker 15: She would show up to the open of an envelope.
- 40:01Speaker 15: He's actually, I'm sure you know this, but Kitty's actually
- 40:04Speaker 15: admitted to attending a party held in honor of Prince Andrew,
- 40:08Speaker 15: hosted by Jeffrey Epstein.
- 40:10Speaker 8: So she will literally show up anywhere.
- 40:13Speaker 15: She would sell a kidney to secure the Bezos' first
- 40:17Speaker 15: married interview, but knows she's not relevant enough to score,
- 40:20Speaker 15: you know, a good gat like that today.
- 40:22Speaker 8: So I think she just sounds unhappy. I don't think
- 40:25Speaker 8: that was a necessary comment.
- 40:28Speaker 2: No, probably not in a necessary comment.
- 40:30Speaker 3: And I will say, Kinsey, I was so pleasantly surprised
- 40:33Speaker 3: that Laurence boobs were in her dress. Now a query
- 40:37Speaker 3: sometimes right, A query sometimes? How much this wedding was
- 40:41Speaker 3: a wedding or a big performance? A big it's almost
- 40:44Speaker 3: like a business deal. A few people have commented that
- 40:47Speaker 3: the couple didn't seem to have much in the way
- 40:49Speaker 3: of family there, but it's been reported that Chris Jenna
- 40:53Speaker 3: pushed really hard for Chloe Kendall and Kylie to be invited.
- 40:57Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's a wedding. What's your thoughts?
- 41:00Speaker 15: Well, the presence of so many Kardashians guarantees this a
- 41:04Speaker 15: big pop culture event. It expanded generations thanks to the
- 41:09Speaker 15: younger siblings like Kendall and Kylie. The only wedding that
- 41:12Speaker 15: would outdo this guest list is Taylor Swift in Travis
- 41:16Speaker 15: Kelsey's wedding. But realistically, we understand that the Bezoses were
- 41:19Speaker 15: secretly married in the United States weeks ago, and while
- 41:23Speaker 15: there was a formal ceremony, it was just a big,
- 41:26Speaker 15: expensive excuse to party.
- 41:30Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 41:30Speaker 3: I suppose sometimes a big expensive excuse to party can
- 41:34Speaker 3: be very good fun. But there was some controversy over
- 41:38Speaker 3: Kylie Jenni's choice of frock.
- 41:40Speaker 2: What was the issue here?
- 41:42Speaker 15: Okay, Kylie's dress was technically a pale silver, but let's
- 41:45Speaker 15: be honest, under certain light it looked white.
- 41:48Speaker 8: And wearing white to someone else's wedding that's a big
- 41:51Speaker 8: no no.
- 41:51Speaker 15: It's considered a major faux pas because the white dress
- 41:54Speaker 15: is supposed to be reserved for the bride.
- 41:56Speaker 8: It's her moment, her spotlight.
- 41:59Speaker 15: Fun fact, we can actually thank Queen Victoria for the
- 42:02Speaker 15: white wedding dress trend before her eighteen forty wedding to
- 42:06Speaker 15: Prince Albert. Brides just wore like their nicest dress in
- 42:09Speaker 15: their closet, often something dark or colorful, but Victoria chose
- 42:13Speaker 15: white lace and satin, and it sparked a fashion revolution
- 42:16Speaker 15: that's still going strong today.
- 42:19Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's definitely part of wedding etiquette, I suppose,
- 42:21Speaker 3: regardless of who the wedding is.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Moving from Besos to Beyonce.
- 42:26Speaker 3: And check out this footage from her concert in Texas
- 42:29Speaker 3: on Saturday.
- 42:40Speaker 8: To stuff stop stop stop stuff the far nothing, Oh my.
- 42:49Speaker 2: God, Kinsey, what happened here?
- 42:53Speaker 15: Over the weekend, Beyonce's team, Parkwood Entertainment released a statement
- 42:56Speaker 15: addressing this incident, explaining that Saturday Night and huston Texas,
- 43:00Speaker 15: a technical mishap caused her flying car to tilt. She
- 43:04Speaker 15: was quickly lowered and no one was injured. The show
- 43:06Speaker 15: continued without incident. I mean, it was whether you like
- 43:10Speaker 15: Beyonce or not, it was a pretty decent display of
- 43:12Speaker 15: Beyonce's professionalism because she returned to the mean stage and
- 43:16Speaker 15: finished the performance without skipping a bit.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Yeah, good on her.
- 43:21Speaker 3: And I suppose the more that these sorts of music
- 43:24Speaker 3: performances become almost acrobatic performances, the more that these sorts
- 43:28Speaker 3: of things can potentially go wrong, but I totally agree
- 43:32Speaker 3: with the top marks for her for you know, getting
- 43:35Speaker 3: back on stage and continuing with the show. Now, the
- 43:38Speaker 3: Beckham family rift, well that's something that's been very well documented.
- 43:42Speaker 3: And we know that Brooklyn missed David's fiftieth birthday, but
- 43:46Speaker 3: apparently he was celebrating his father in law's birthday.
- 43:50Speaker 2: It doesn't look like things have softened, Kinsey, I.
- 43:53Speaker 15: Know, and this does not look great because David Beckham
- 43:56Speaker 15: has been in the hospital after he underwent a surgery
- 43:59Speaker 15: on hit wrist. So Victoria's posting pictures of David in
- 44:04Speaker 15: the hospital and Brooklyn's posting birthday wishes to his father
- 44:08Speaker 15: in law after ignoring his dad, Brooklyn and Nicola act
- 44:12Speaker 15: like they were raised by wolves and not one of
- 44:15Speaker 15: the most famous power couples in the world. I'm sorry,
- 44:17Speaker 15: but if your dad is David Beckham and your mom
- 44:20Speaker 15: is Posh Spice, maybe show a little gratitude instead of
- 44:24Speaker 15: throwing Braddy shade.
- 44:25Speaker 8: The entitlement is exhausting.
- 44:29Speaker 3: The entitlement is exhausting, and I suppose kinsin you know,
- 44:32Speaker 3: we've seen the kind of parallel with Harry and the
- 44:36Speaker 3: Royal family, but where do you think that this family
- 44:40Speaker 3: rift will end up going. Do you think it's something
- 44:42Speaker 3: that's going to sort itself out.
- 44:45Speaker 15: I think I do think it's something that will sort
- 44:47Speaker 15: itself out because Nichola's family is likely not going to
- 44:51Speaker 15: continue to bake, to debate roll these people. I mean,
- 44:54Speaker 15: Brooklyn goes on TV in the United States and makes
- 44:56Speaker 15: grilled cheese sandwiches. They realistically have to find careers for themselves.
- 45:01Speaker 15: I don't think nicholas family will continue to be their
- 45:04Speaker 15: piggy bank, and Brooklyn's going to have to go crawling
- 45:07Speaker 15: back to mommy and daddy.
- 45:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 45:11Speaker 3: Well, again, the parallels are stark, there, aren't they.
- 45:17Speaker 2: On to Prince Harry, speaking of he made some comments
- 45:20Speaker 2: this way that in twenty eighteen, Megan was the most
- 45:23Speaker 2: troll person in the world.
- 45:26Speaker 15: The digital world was so important to us because my
- 45:29Speaker 15: wife in twenty eighteen was the most true person in
- 45:32Speaker 15: the world.
- 45:34Speaker 4: So there was a lived experience in that.
- 45:38Speaker 3: Now, this conference was meant to focus on the mental
- 45:41Speaker 3: health impacts of social media on children, a very worthy cause,
- 45:44Speaker 3: absolutely no objection from me.
- 45:46Speaker 2: Couldn't he just have focused.
- 45:48Speaker 8: On the kids right?
- 45:52Speaker 15: Meanwhile, his wife is posting his children on social media,
- 45:56Speaker 15: Like you know, the contradictions continue to astound, but fantasy timeline, Megan's.
- 46:01Speaker 8: Favorability rating was high.
- 46:03Speaker 15: In twenty eighteen, she had a twenty five percent net
- 46:05Speaker 15: favorability rating. In the US, her favorability was even higher
- 46:09Speaker 15: at thirty nine percent.
- 46:11Speaker 8: Today, a majority of.
- 46:13Speaker 15: UK adults sixty five percent, have a negative view of her.
- 46:16Speaker 15: She has relentlessly spent twenty twenty five trying to improve
- 46:19Speaker 15: her public image, but between podcasts Loose Fruit, Spread and
- 46:23Speaker 15: a Netflix series, there's been no significant impact positively on
- 46:27Speaker 15: her standing. So you know, get your dates right, get
- 46:32Speaker 15: your receipts. I think we're dealing with victim fatigue here.
- 46:35Speaker 15: We're so over him trying to convince us that they
- 46:39Speaker 15: are living a hard life from their Montecito mansion.
- 46:44Speaker 3: And I don't think he's helping himself from the point
- 46:46Speaker 3: of view that we all remember the great failure that
- 46:50Speaker 3: was the World Privacy Tour, and now all of a sudden,
- 46:53Speaker 3: Megan is everywhere like pick the pony that you're going
- 46:56Speaker 3: to ride and get on with it.
- 46:58Speaker 2: Does this just, you know, damage the credibility more?
- 47:03Speaker 15: I do think it damages their credibility more because it
- 47:05Speaker 15: completely contradicts what we have seen and what we know
- 47:10Speaker 15: to be true.
- 47:11Speaker 8: But this is just what we've come to expect from them.
- 47:14Speaker 15: I think that there is such an oversaturation right now
- 47:18Speaker 15: that the normal people are tuning them out and that's
- 47:22Speaker 15: not going to be beneficial to Megan's as ever brand.
- 47:25Speaker 8: But she's done it to herself.
- 47:26Speaker 15: One day, she's saying she's going to hit pause so
- 47:28Speaker 15: she can reevaluate the brand. Forty eight hours later, she's
- 47:32Speaker 15: announcing a restock. This yo yo mentality is not a
- 47:35Speaker 15: way to run a business.
- 47:38Speaker 3: No, and the whiplash definitely does not give you your
- 47:42Speaker 3: investors or people wanting to support your business that much
- 47:46Speaker 3: confidence that your full.
- 47:48Speaker 2: Throttle on doing that now.
- 47:50Speaker 3: Back still on the Royal Family, but over in the
- 47:52Speaker 3: UK and a reception of Buckingham Palace This Way for
- 47:54Speaker 3: the King's Trust and reality TV star Jamie lang Andy's
- 47:58Speaker 3: wife Sophie filmed a video appearing appearing to mock Harry
- 48:02Speaker 3: and Meghan's twerking video.
- 48:04Speaker 2: They then posted it on social media, Let's.
- 48:06Speaker 11: Have a look pregnant a way too lung, and it.
- 48:18Speaker 3: Received this cheeky response from the official Royal Family Instagram account.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Kinsey obviously a bit cheeky filming in the palace when
- 48:26Speaker 3: you're not supposed to. But I think most people would
- 48:29Speaker 3: say the funny side to this, wouldn't they.
- 48:32Speaker 8: No, I thought it was so cute. I thought it
- 48:34Speaker 8: was funny.
- 48:34Speaker 15: It got a lot of great press for the King's Foundation,
- 48:37Speaker 15: which does incredible work.
- 48:38Speaker 8: I could just see and.
- 48:39Speaker 15: I know I'm making this up, but I love to
- 48:43Speaker 15: imagine Queen Camella behind the keyboard typing the winking emogioing exactly.
- 48:50Speaker 8: I mean, they've got a social media team.
- 48:52Speaker 15: A social media team member did that, but it's so
- 48:54Speaker 15: much more fun to imagine Queen Camella behind the keyboard.
- 48:58Speaker 3: Having a little giggle to herself as she posted that comment.
- 49:03Speaker 3: We can only wish that is actually how it happened.
- 49:06Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Kinsey Schofield. That's it from me,
- 49:09Speaker 3: and up next to his newsnight, Good night,