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Furness Show 4-9: Bobby Casper, Eno Sarris, Steve Palazzolo · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go along the way. We have a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on. We're gonna check in. Guess why is today?
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Casper from Augusta National. In just a couple of seconds,
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  Speaker 1: he's in the media center so he can have his
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  Speaker 1: phone on him. And if you haven't heard the story
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  Speaker 1: about what happens if you get caught with a phone
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  Speaker 1: at Augusta National, We'll get him to tell that. It's sensational,
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  Speaker 1: like it is a no phone zone. I think it
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  Speaker 1: would it be liberating or it would be stressful? That's
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  Speaker 1: a good question to ask little a nonsports question today.
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  Speaker 1: Four nine, four or five to one. If you had
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  Speaker 1: no phone for three or four hours, you were prevented
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  Speaker 1: and prohibited from using your phone for a few hours,
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  Speaker 1: would it be liberating or would you just be stressed
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  Speaker 1: out beyond belief? Four nine, four or five one.
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  Speaker 2: I've been to comedy shows where they do that. They
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  Speaker 2: give you a little like prison purse for your phone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is it good or bad?
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  Speaker 3: It's great because you immerse yourself in the event.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you don't stress out? No, I definitely stress out. Andrews,
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  Speaker 1: would you stress out without a phone for four hours?
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  Speaker 4: If I knew where it was, Like, as long as
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  Speaker 4: I know where it was, no, I would not.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think you yeah, it would be I
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  Speaker 1: used to term liberate it. Would it be kind of
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  Speaker 1: like hey, yeah, kind of nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like if I know I'm not allowed to, I
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  Speaker 4: know it's there for an emergency for whatever reason or
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  Speaker 4: anything like that.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I like it all right, So I mean now you
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  Speaker 1: can't do that anymore as of about a month and
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  Speaker 1: a half ago. Ye, your no phone zone is not
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  Speaker 1: going to happen anymore. I Am just used to work
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  Speaker 1: on a show called the Phone Zone or something.
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  Speaker 3: I did, and it was spelled with an F.
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  Speaker 1: Of course it was all right anyway four four or
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  Speaker 1: five one, because I think it's a cool story we'll have.
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  Speaker 1: We'll let Bobby tell you about that. Of the masters.
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  Speaker 1: If they somebody just took your phone once you can't
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  Speaker 1: use this, I think i'd stress out a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, but I think.
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  Speaker 3: You need to like kind of like d Mountain dense
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 1: I got a new phone recently, Oh yeah you did,
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  Speaker 1: and it got They didn't transfer stuff over, so there
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  Speaker 1: was like forty eight hours where I just had a phone,
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  Speaker 1: like nothing, no app saw on it. Nothing nice. It
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  Speaker 1: was calls, calls and text.
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  Speaker 6: Was that's it. That was it.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And it was social. I'll be honest with you, that
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  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. That was really cool. Now I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm like yesterday, I like not having a phone,
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  Speaker 1: and I would have missed stuff Like Ron Francis. We
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  Speaker 1: found out like an hour after we went off the
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  Speaker 1: air he got he's out mutual decision. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: in that in second.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Sarah's bought um of the hour. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to him about what's going on with the baseball
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  Speaker 1: team here. Should we be worried or not. Last week
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  Speaker 1: he told us about swin bat speed and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if that's still a thing.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then coming up to two o'clock today, we'll check in
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  Speaker 1: Steve Palozolo little NFL Draft talk conversation. We'll talk like
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  Speaker 1: we did yesterday with Cosell about edge rushers. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: that with Steve because I think that's a big part
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  Speaker 1: of what we're doing. Okay four nine four five one
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  Speaker 1: four five four five one. Where are we get to? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: I want to get to this before we get to
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  Speaker 1: to Bobby Casper just a couple of minutes. So yesterday
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  Speaker 1: find out I'm out literally on a golf course, first
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  Speaker 1: time of the year. He got to play league play.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go, We're gonna do this, be on a course,
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  Speaker 1: play some golf. All of a sudden, somebody comes up
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  Speaker 1: and goes, hey, Ron francisc got fired. I'm like, what,
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  Speaker 1: Ron frances got fired? Yeah, Ron Francis got fired.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, he will step down?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but it was That's what I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea going to find out. That was the announcement. Toddlight
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  Speaker 1: Wickie met with the media this morning. One of the
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  Speaker 1: things they talked about, and we'll play more of this
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  Speaker 1: coming up at one forty five in the Daily Power
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  Speaker 1: Play this independent review thing, which I'm trying to wrap
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  Speaker 1: my arms around. We're gonna have Todd on our pregame
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  Speaker 1: show on TV tonight at six thirty if you want
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  Speaker 1: to tune in for that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's an independent review, but it's done by the current
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  Speaker 1: GM so I'm a little confused by that. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: hear some sound I think Aaron Levine kind of asked
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  Speaker 1: that question today from Fox thirteen. But let's just be honest.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? If and I and Todd I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you this in a second, and Andrews, you and I
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  Speaker 1: go round around, and everyone else on our little hockey
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  Speaker 1: chackle round around. I think we all agree upon one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Where this team is right now through five years is
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  Speaker 1: just not acceptable. Fans deserve better. It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 1: They deserve a better product, a more competitive product. They
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  Speaker 1: deserve to see something better at Climate Plagerina than they
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  Speaker 1: have seen now. They were in it going into the
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  Speaker 1: Olympic break, and they just a death spiral after that
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason. And that's a Lane Lambert question end
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  Speaker 1: of the year. But it just has gone south in
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  Speaker 1: a hurry. Here's Todd Lwiki today talking about where this
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  Speaker 1: franchise is and where it needs to go.
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  Speaker 9: Todd, you mentioned the independent audit this one.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get this later. We get this later. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get that the one you cut Andrews
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  Speaker 1: if I could, Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have that cut from him? Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 10: We have a hell of a lot of work to
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  Speaker 10: do here. We want this to be a prolific off season.
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  Speaker 10: I think we change. You can do things differently that
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  Speaker 10: you perhaps otherwise wouldn't have done differently. And I think
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  Speaker 10: there's things that we can do differently to improve our
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  Speaker 10: hand here do it with him. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 10: of smart people with us on this journey, and we're
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  Speaker 10: going to cut measure twice and cut once there. But
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  Speaker 10: we are going to improve things, and we are going
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  Speaker 10: to push and we're going to make this a better
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  Speaker 10: place for players to play and for families to live.
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  Speaker 10: And we've got a lot of ambition.
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  Speaker 1: Save that for me for offseason, for next year, save
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  Speaker 1: that archive that have that at they're ready. One hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent what Todd said is true. One hundred percent what
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  Speaker 1: he said is true. I like the fact that there
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  Speaker 1: are fans that are pissed off. I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. Now there's different levels of being mad. There's
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  Speaker 1: Vancouver Canuck fan mad, there's Toronto Maple Lee fan mad,
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  Speaker 1: There's Mariner fan mad, and there's krack and fan mad.
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  Speaker 1: Crack and fans I think are just kind of on
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  Speaker 1: the verge of like, why why are we bothering? The
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  Speaker 1: team is not exciting, they don't have a star and
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  Speaker 1: just said about the off season's got to be aggressive. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they kind of said that last year, so now you've
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  Speaker 1: got to prove it this offseason. You can't blame Ron Francis,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do anything else. This is this is an
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  Speaker 1: incredibly important offseason and being aggressive and getting after it.
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  Speaker 1: What we demand that the Mariners do and have frankly
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  Speaker 1: done the last couple of years, what we expect from
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  Speaker 1: We don't have to demand that, what we expect the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks to do, and they do. That's what the hockey
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  Speaker 1: team has to do next as well. It's as simple
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  Speaker 1: as that. We'll get more of that coming up at
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  Speaker 1: one forty five. We have a little Master's music. Ohlet
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  Speaker 1: me some Master's music, baby, Oh, the greatest sound in
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  Speaker 1: the world.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: It is a tradition. It's kind of like anything, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's the good thing about the Master's music. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like we go from March madness music and what
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  Speaker 1: perish on tomorrow. I believe for our final visits, we
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  Speaker 1: go from that little rift of the of that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then you go from March madness like to this
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  Speaker 1: one week later.
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  Speaker 3: It just sounds like it sounds like our.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, Bobby Casper. He is at Augusta National. His dad
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  Speaker 1: was the Masters champion, Billy Casper, in nineteen seventy, so
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  Speaker 1: Bobby goes back every year. He knows the course well
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  Speaker 1: and knows the terment well. Real Golf Radio. You can
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  Speaker 1: hear it on the iHeartRadio app. He's part of the
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  Speaker 1: iHeart family and he joins us right now from Augusta National.
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  Speaker 1: Gorgeous Augusta National. Bobby, how you doing.
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  Speaker 11: I'm doing great, Ian Good to be on with.
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  Speaker 1: You, but it's great to hear your voice again. It
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  Speaker 1: must be a golf season and major season. We have
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Casper hunt from Real Golf Radio, and this is
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  Speaker 1: your favorite place, I do believe, correct.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt about it. With a father that won
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  Speaker 11: here in nineteen seventy and the opportunity to come back
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  Speaker 11: every year after year and be in the media building,
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  Speaker 11: it's pretty amazing. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Just for golf fans watching this week all the way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the scores are changing by the second, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll touch in on a couple guys, but by the
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  Speaker 1: time we talk about it, it might even be changed again.
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  Speaker 1: But let's just talk in general terms. Conditions, course conditions,
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  Speaker 1: weather for the next few days. It sounds like it
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  Speaker 1: is not just ideal but near perfect, is that right?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, we haven't had any weather as far
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  Speaker 11: as rain or any heavy rain since probably Saturday, kind
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  Speaker 11: of later in the day, and then Sunday a little
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  Speaker 11: bit of missed and that kind of thing. But it's
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  Speaker 11: been perfect every day since then, about about low to
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  Speaker 11: mid seventies today, expected to be mid to high seventies tomorrow,
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  Speaker 11: and then on Saturday and Sunday it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 11: like eighty three eighty four degrees. And so this is
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  Speaker 11: the first time in fifteen years that we haven't had
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  Speaker 11: any weather in the forecast during the Master's tournament tournament days,
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  Speaker 11: and so it's going to be pretty interesting to see
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  Speaker 11: how it all comes about.
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  Speaker 1: What is this course we've watched over the years, It
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  Speaker 1: feels like lately the last few years, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: there's been some rain, there's been some you know, some moisture,
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  Speaker 1: so it does soften up. So this thing is going
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  Speaker 1: to be about as as dry and crispy and fast
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  Speaker 1: as we've seen it. What does that mean for the
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  Speaker 1: players of the next four days?
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  Speaker 11: See, and I loved you said crispy because that's the
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  Speaker 11: word I was thinking. Yeah, it's you know, the golf
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  Speaker 11: course is going to get faster as far as off
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  Speaker 11: the tee and being able to hit the ball down
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  Speaker 11: the fairway. It's also going to get firmer on the greens.
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  Speaker 11: And if you want to keep scores in check, fast,
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  Speaker 11: firm greens is the biggest determining factor to keeping scores
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  Speaker 11: in checks. So I expect by you know, the middle
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  Speaker 11: two rounds, you're going to see scores really really kind
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  Speaker 11: of tighten up, and you know, sixty nine sixty eight
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  Speaker 11: is going to be a really really good score. And
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  Speaker 11: then by the time we get to Sunday, they'll they'll
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  Speaker 11: and the back nine they'll they'll let the stoppers out
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  Speaker 11: a little bit and let the guys shoot at it
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  Speaker 11: to see who comes out the winner. So that that's
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  Speaker 11: the way the golf course plays, that's the way they
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  Speaker 11: like it, and it it all depends on where the
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  Speaker 11: flag and pin placements are as to whether guys can
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  Speaker 11: get the ball close to the hole and can make
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  Speaker 11: making up birdies.
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  Speaker 1: We were seeing a lot of red numbers early, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys under par. Sam Burns was the early
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  Speaker 1: clubhouse leader at five under. We went one of the
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  Speaker 1: first guys out this morning. Rory's out to a four
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  Speaker 1: hunder start early role Sheingston said. Early, he's on the
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  Speaker 1: back nine. He's on I think fifteen is we you
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  Speaker 1: and I talk right now, so that'll change in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Rory's having a good start. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler comes out. He's three under through three and
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  Speaker 1: he's still on the golf golf course as we speak
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  Speaker 1: right now. Looks like he's humming along as well. You
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  Speaker 1: kind of touched on. Let me go back to that.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of scores are you expecting?
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  Speaker 11: Well, I expect, you know, I don't expect anybody to
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  Speaker 11: get much lowered in about five or six under par today.
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  Speaker 11: You know, Patrick Reid, he was the guy. He was
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  Speaker 11: the guy that kind of set the tone. He birdied
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  Speaker 11: the first hole and then eagled the third hole or
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  Speaker 11: the second hole, and eagled the eighth hole, both the
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  Speaker 11: par fives on the front nine, and he ended up
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  Speaker 11: you know, he's ending, he's as we speak, he's about
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  Speaker 11: three under part with two holes to play. So but
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  Speaker 11: there are some good scores out there. Guys are figuring
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  Speaker 11: it out. It seems like the guys in the afternoon
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  Speaker 11: have have watched these guys in the morning and have
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  Speaker 11: settled down a little bit because the scores are looking
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  Speaker 11: a little better in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: It is Bobby Casper Real Golf Radio joining us here
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  Speaker 1: on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. When this course is as dry,
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  Speaker 1: I guess as it's gonna be, How does it make
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  Speaker 1: it easier or is it harder for these players? Because
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  Speaker 1: I've heard guys say I think it was. I think
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  Speaker 1: I even heard Rory talking about it yesterday and some
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  Speaker 1: others saying, hey, that we want it that way, we
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  Speaker 1: want it fast. It feels like this is a kind
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  Speaker 1: of course man if it's if the ball's roll, and
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  Speaker 1: that would be terrifying.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, you know the thing they can They can
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  Speaker 11: pretty much play everything from the front of the green
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  Speaker 11: back to the flag because you what you do when
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  Speaker 11: when conditions get firm, is you allowed the ball to bounce.
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  Speaker 11: You know, with your wedges you're going to be able
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  Speaker 11: to spin it a little bit more. But any longer
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  Speaker 11: middle iron shots into greens, the ball is going to
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  Speaker 11: bounce a little bit before it starts to grip. So guys,
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  Speaker 11: guys are really really good about figuring that out and
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  Speaker 11: getting that bounce correct. Now, when you get really low scores,
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  Speaker 11: it's when there's a lot of moisture in the grass,
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  Speaker 11: especially on the greens, and guys are able to just
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  Speaker 11: fire away and hit it right at the flag. So
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  Speaker 11: I expect it to be, you know, somewhere around you
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  Speaker 11: look at five under par leading currently with Sam Burns.
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  Speaker 11: I expect it to be when it's all said and done,
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  Speaker 11: somewhere between that five under par and ten under par
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  Speaker 11: score that's probably going to win this golf tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Casper joining us. Bobby, just the the interesting trinket
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  Speaker 1: that we have here in our in our world with
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  Speaker 1: with the masters, the no cell phone policy. I think
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  Speaker 1: as somebody got kicked off of course today it might
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  Speaker 1: have been like Mark hel Koveci, a former made yesterday, Yeah, yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Tell people how how unique this is and
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  Speaker 1: how that phone policy works. We live in a world
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  Speaker 1: now nobody wants to put their phone down ever, So
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  Speaker 1: tell people how this actually works.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 11: Well, you know, the interesting thing about it, and a
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  Speaker 11: lot of the players even comment about it, is that
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  Speaker 11: when the phones are out of play and people can't
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  Speaker 11: look at them all of a sudden, their eyes are
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  Speaker 11: up and they're looking and they're seeing this beautiful golf course.
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  Speaker 11: They're they're creating relationships, talking to people all that kind
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  Speaker 11: of thing, which is which is really really cool in
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  Speaker 11: today's world. You know, if you show up here at
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  Speaker 11: Augusta and you've got a phone on you and it
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  Speaker 11: comes out of your pocket, or you know, the security
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  Speaker 11: sees you, or or the you know, the volunteers, somebody
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  Speaker 11: sees you, they're they're going to take take you and
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  Speaker 11: boot you right off the golf course because they do
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  Speaker 11: not want that out and about at all. And that's
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  Speaker 11: what happened to Mark cal Qubec. Yeah, he's an honorary
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  Speaker 11: invite when the British Open, and being an honorary invitee,
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  Speaker 11: you get to come to the Masters. Anybody that's won
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  Speaker 11: any of the major championships, any of the big national
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  Speaker 11: amateur championships, become honorary invitees. And and unfortunately he had
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  Speaker 11: his phone with him and you know, a Pinkerton or
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  Speaker 11: you know somebody security person saw and they ushered him
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  Speaker 11: off the course and it's unfortunate. Yeah, do you.
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  Speaker 1: Check your phone when you get to the course, or
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  Speaker 1: you just I mean, because maybe not having a phone
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  Speaker 1: is a challenge for people. I mean, you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 11: It is, so yeah, how does that work?
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  Speaker 8: Well?
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  Speaker 11: A lot of people leave it in their leave it
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  Speaker 11: in their car or their vehicle when they when they park.
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  Speaker 11: There is an area where you can check it. You
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  Speaker 11: can check stuff and if for some reason you forget
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  Speaker 11: and you walk in before you go through the gates
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  Speaker 11: and you remember you have it, you can check it.
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  Speaker 11: As far as the media is concerned, we can have
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  Speaker 11: it here in the media building, but we we can't
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  Speaker 11: take it outside of the media building when we go
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  Speaker 11: out on the golf course. So people understand it. People
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  Speaker 11: understand it. They can't run on the golf course. People
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  Speaker 11: understand that they can't have the you know, the phones
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  Speaker 11: on the golf course. There are specific rules here at Augusta,
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  Speaker 11: and and because of the event and a lot of
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  Speaker 11: people not having an opportunity to come year after year
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  Speaker 11: after year, they respect everything about the rules and that
• 15:28
  Speaker 11: kind of thing and they bite by him.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I love it. I absolutely love it. Before they go, Bobby,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: we talk about this every year. This is one of
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: those this tournament, maybe more so even than the other
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: three majors, even maybe more so than the so called
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: fifth in the players. This is where the kind of
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the cream rises to the top. Yes, Scotty obviously is
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: a guy. I mean he is wild with Scotty right,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: wins a tournament to start the season, has a couple
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: of finishes in the twenties as a kid, kind of
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: away for a little bit and he comes out just
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: flying out of the gate today and away we go.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: But I assume, like always with this tournament, Bobby Casper,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Real golf Rado, you assume it to be probably the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: big names at the top of the leader board. Will
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: we get to Sunday.
• 16:08
  Speaker 11: You know, it's interesting. I think I can't remember how
• 16:13
  Speaker 11: many in a row, but you know you've got to
• 16:16
  Speaker 11: be in the top twenty after the first round to
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: that's where the winners come from, top ten after the
• 16:22
  Speaker 11: first round, something like that. And so you know, guys
• 16:25
  Speaker 11: are getting themselves into position, Guys that are first timers,
• 16:30
  Speaker 11: guys that are that have won but aren't known real well.
• 16:35
  Speaker 11: They have a tough time as it gets to later
• 16:38
  Speaker 11: on in the event. A guy like Scotti Scheffler, he's
• 16:41
  Speaker 11: won twice in what six starts. This could be three
• 16:48
  Speaker 11: times in seven starts, which beats Jack Nicholas and Arnold
• 16:51
  Speaker 11: Palmer and Tiger Woods, who won their third in their
• 16:54
  Speaker 11: eighth start. So yeah, the guys that are the best
• 17:00
  Speaker 11: players in the world, the elite players in the world,
• 17:03
  Speaker 11: the top top ten, top twenty players in the world,
• 17:06
  Speaker 11: top twenty five players in the world, all have a
• 17:08
  Speaker 11: really really good go at this if they get off
• 17:11
  Speaker 11: to a good start.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Bobby, great stuff, best best podcast golf show out there
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: in my bund You guys, You and Brian Taylor have
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: been at it forever.
• 17:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I want to say twenty two years now twenty.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say twenty it would be twenty seven, yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: cause me it was twenty two thousand, right, twenty nineteen
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: ninety nine somewhere in there.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: For Bobby and I knew each other back in the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake days years ago. And congratulate to have that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: kind of success. You guys are at the forefront of
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: these types of things, and I love seeing the success
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you're having. Tell people how they can listen to you guys.
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Real golfradio dot com. You can hear us on
• 17:43
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• 17:46
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• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Part of the iheartsht work, part of the iHeart network.
• 17:52
  Speaker 11: I believe you're exactly right.
• 17:54
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• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Folks here as well. Bobby will check in again. We'll maybe, hey,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: try to squeeze in tomorrow. We'll see how it's going.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Your schedule, our schedule. If not, we'll talk the next
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: major coming up, which think is the PGA Championship. My friend,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: great stuff, Thank.
• 18:07
  Speaker 11: You, thanks Ian, good to be on with you.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Great to hear your voice. That's Bobby Casper. We'll get
• 18:12
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• 18:14
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• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of story. Not even here for an argument. You know
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: sarahs joins us right now. Once he tries it, he'll
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: agree with me. How are you, sir?
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Doing great? Doing great?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You did a podcast that Mariner fans may or may
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: not want to listen to. Oh, the greatest defense or
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the best defensive game ever?
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: You don't.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I don't even have to tell anders just slumped in.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I don't have to tell people who it was or
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: when it was andw just guess anyway.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: And it's probably the guy who had I think minus
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: twelve outs above average last year.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: In Joe Adele you know you're our guy, explained how
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the hell that happened?
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: I mean the first two and I'm not just saying
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: this to make y'all feel better, but the first two
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: were not as impressive as the last and the first two.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: There's this sect of statistics where people say, well, those
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: two actually had like an eighty percent catch probability. He
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: just happened to be It just happened to look better
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: because he was next to the wall and he jumped
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: up and got it, and so it looked like he
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: robbed it. But in terms of how far he ran
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: and how hard the ball was hit, those two were
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: not as impressive. So at least I can pooh pooh
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: the first two catches.
• 20:23
  Speaker 13: But the last line, I don't know. Man, he left
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: his seat, he landed because by there was one nothing game,
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: and oh man, I just felt so bad for JP
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: Crawford just looking down and being like I tied this.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: No, I didn't.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been that kind of year early on offensively
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: for Seattle, there's no doubt about that. I mean, they
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: sit there at four and nine, and you know it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the proverbial it's early in baseball talk is.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Going to go on.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: We talked the last week, you talked about, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: some swing speeds and batspeeding, stuff like that. I don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: know if you have in front of you, But has
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that improved it all for Seattle? Because it is certainly
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the offensive results of not.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not as it's not as drastic as it
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: once was. And you know, I did do some some
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: asking around. I asked Tom Tango, who's the head data
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: scientist for MLB, you know, if there is a weather
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: component to bat speed, and you know, there was some
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: back and forth, some different researchers talked about it. It
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: looks like there is a little bit of a weather component,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: but it's only a really small one. It only affects
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: backbeat on the level of like twenty two miles an hour,
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: which is not usually what we care about. We care
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: about sort of single digits, you know. So that being said,
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: now most of the guys are close to their league averages,
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: and if there was a weather component, you know that's
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: going to go away over time. I would just say that,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: like when you look at players across the league, you say, well,
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: it's not predictive that you know, first half a second
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: half splits. You know that that's that's not something we
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: use when we analyze players in terms of being predicted.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: But I think at this point with Hulu Rodrigoz, it
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: just looks like he's the kind of player that needs
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: to lock in and in early seasons. One thing that
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: is true is that baseball players hitters swing less than
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: usual in the first month of the season, and they
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: swing more as they start identify pitches. So I think
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: the first couple of weeks, three weeks, it's getting your timing.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: It's uh, seeing pitches, seeing pitches, seeing what they're trying
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: to do to you, and so, and also trying to
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: be good soldiers and like you know, you know, get
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: on base and and and manufacture runs, and so you
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: swing less. But I think Julios at his best when
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: he's being aggressive, he's getting the ball out in front,
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: he's not necessarily trying to go to the right field
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: on everything, and you know that usually takes some time
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: where he can be selectively aggressive in the right way.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: And so I could I could see that maybe.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: Julio is just a cold weather.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: He's not that good in the early season, and he's
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: just gonna be a guy who's going to be white
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: hot in July and August and September.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Damn good thing they signed him to the long term
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: deal when they did, then, because that guy be like,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm getting the hell out of here. It's not you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: send me to California or Texas or Florida or someplace
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: where I don't have to deal with the cold weathers
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: start the season. Ino Sarah's joining us from the Athletic
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the Athletic dot comrat to by Georgetown Brewing. Yeah, I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of all these guys, and I'm just I'm gonna ask
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you this until stuff turns around. But whether it be
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Naylor seems to be the guy that let
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: me us ask you about because you just explained who
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: heal and and Cal has shown a little bit here
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: or there. But maybe Cal Naylor is there one of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: those guys we should be worried about, or both those
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: guys like, hey man, it is early, just relaxed. It's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: all good. Either one of those guys caused for concern
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: or we good at thirteen games in.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: You know, I just think that Cal's game is a
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: little bit of a high wire act because he gets
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: the ball out in front, further in front of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: plate than anybody else in baseball. And you know, right
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: now he's getting the ball thirty nine inches out in
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: front of the plate. The average is thirty, So you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: he's the guy who's getting the ball way out in front,
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: and that's going to lead the whiffs when he does connect.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: That's how you hit sixty homers, by the way, because
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: the average the ideal place to make contact for powers
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: thirty six inches. So he's right next to that right.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: So I would just say that, you know, from the
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: left side, he's not quite where it was last year.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: From the right side, he might be a little bit
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: far out in front. I'd say he's a kind of
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: a high wire act. In general. Naylor should be the
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: opposite though, because Naylor is a guy who makes a
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: lot of contact and he doesn't, you know, get the
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: ball super out in front. And you know, as we
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: look at his strikeout right as well within norms, we
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: look at his walk right within norms, and he's in
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: fact being pretty aggressive and swinging a lot. So I
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: would I would counsel him to kind of bring that in.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: But otherwise I don't see anything big to be worried
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: about other than yeah, he's the one who other than
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: Reindeer ros Arena, those are the two that are down
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: most in bat speed.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: And as what's a stat again that we got earlier, Yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: our good friend Nathan Bishop told us that the Mariners
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: are zero to nine when they give up more than
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: one run, which.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: That seems problematic.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: I'm not.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: I'm not as guy is falling as because maybe because
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: I don't have to watch every single game and liven't
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: die with them. But I see some positives man, Like
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: you know, uh, Donic Canzone's bat speed is up again,
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: So that's three years in a row that bat speed
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: is up. He looks like a legitimate slugger to me,
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: m hm. Cole Young played approach is great. I think
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: he I think he'll walk more going forward. And the
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: power has been there and that was always was kind
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: of one of the questions was was the power there?
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: So I think in developing Cole Young and Dominic Canzone,
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: you're saying, okay, the two timelines thing that're like, you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: developed the young guys while also signing older guys, Like
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: it looks like it's working. It should be one of
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: the best lineups, and you're waiting on the studs to
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: get going, and it's the studs have a long track record.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: It's not the studs are going and we don't know
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: what we're doing five through nine in the lineup anymore.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: That's old Mariners teams. Am I right, like this is
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: a different thing where the bottom looks fine and it's
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: the top that's missing. And the top they you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: those names across the back of the jerseys. On some level, yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: I'm a little worried that Naylor's bats speed is down
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: and you're one of the deal. But you know last year,
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: for example, last year, Wan Soto's batspeed was down more
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: than anybody other than like two guys in the game.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: I went on some stupid podcasts and I said, oh,
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: you know, once so is not going to hit forty
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: homers this year. His bat speed is down. And then well,
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: of course he hit forty homers and they broadcast that
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: clip and I had to I had to wear it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: So my way of my new way of analyzing early
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: season bad speed is it's nice if you got it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: It's good if you're a young player and you're showing
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: me that you've got it, like can Zone. But I'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: not going to get overly heated that Naylor hasn't got
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: his bat up to speed yet. I'm going to give
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: him a couple more weeks because he's just a veteran.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: He's done it before you can figure it out.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I love the Gonzone stuff Canzone is seeing him develop
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And I thought we saw glimpses of Cole Young with
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: some pop last year, and now we're seeing I'll wrap
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: it up with this, I don't think is the Houston
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Astros come to town tomorrow? Is yourd on Alvarez? How's
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: his bat speed? Is it okay?
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: This year?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: It seems just by looking at some row numbers they
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: might be okay.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: I don't think we need to look at it. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: think right now he's the best hitter in the league.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: But super is is they lost Hunter Brown. So this
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: is this is when the Mariners need to score some runs.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: Like this, this Astros team, they're not bringing their best
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: starters to this, so they need to score some runs
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: a series. That'll be the big difference.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: And as you can fact check me for our final
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: segment of two thirty, I believe the Murners used to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: have or have had success against Hunter Brown. I think
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: they almost want to see him. Maybe I'm way wrong
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: on that. I don't know why that comes into my
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: mind a little bit right, But yeah, you'd rather not
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, it's too bad. All of us can't.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Can't too bad, Old Yard and can't get a little
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: out of shoulder something or something along the way because
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I last year. Yeah, no, I know exactly.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: I mean the rest of the lineups not as scary anymore,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: and just walk him. And then you're going up against
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: Arraghetti and Burrows and like they got to score some runs. Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: he's got This is where they got to wake up.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He's got thirteen run walks already in a five hundred OVP.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: That seems seems that seems that seems good. It could
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: be I'm not the baseball expert here, you know you are,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: but that seems good. He gets on one way or
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the other. The walk seems to be the less of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the lesser of the two evils. Tell people about the podcast.
• 28:58
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• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it's actually an intelligent one. But tell me about it.
• 29:03
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• 29:10
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• 29:13
  Speaker 7: with Trevor May today about tunneling. We had a whole
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: big thing about tunneling, and one of the fun things
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: was where a pitcher stands on the mound and how
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: they can change how hit or see what they do,
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: like what they're pitching, and like how they can best
• 29:29
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• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That is awesome, fantastic stuff. You know, we'll talk to
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  Speaker 9: You mentioned the independent audit. Well, Jason brings a different voice.
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  Speaker 10: we're quite competent in most of the things we do.
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  Speaker 10: We have excellent prospects in our system. Our team in
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: the American Hockey League has succeeded. We've had great runs
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: this year. We played some rough hockey there at the
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: end of the year, but we're covered nicely and it
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: showed that the team had fire. But to tell you
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: the truth, and maybe this is just my way of rationalizing,
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: this adversity does bring us opportunity to ask hard questions
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: and to do things we otherwise wouldn't have done. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: if we just snuck into the playoffs, we'd have probably
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: played Colorado. Now we beat them once and that was
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: one of the most thrilling times in my career. But
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: what we want to build is not a team that
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: just sneaks into the playoffs. We think that what we
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: should be building here is a team that is a
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: perennial playoff team, and there's examples. We're playing a fine
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: team tonight that's had great success. George McPhee is an
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: old friend of mine and is a friend of Victor's,
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: and so there's role model organizations, and part of what
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: we're going to do is also look at those organizations.
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: We have a hell of a lot of work coming
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: up here. Trips are being canceled, vacations are being put off.
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: We have a hell of a lot of work to do.
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: And at this point, do you anticipate Leane to be
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: head coach next year?
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and I don't want to get into that, but
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: I think Lane is coached his ass off this year,
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: and I think that we owe a lot of people
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: better and we're going to try and provide better things
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: for him, better facilities, better systems. We're going to look
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: at travel, We're going to look at how we take
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: care of players families. So we're going to look at
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: how we take care of our players. We're looking at
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: our medical system. There's a lot that goes into winning
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: and building culture, and a little smelling salt has been
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: popped here.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get this right Tyler WICKI listen. I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like what he's saying. Let's see what happens in the summer.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think the thing that just we talk about often
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: amongst us. I'm looking at Andrew's like a little our
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: little hockey group and others and I have a couple
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: of those ethos that jump in all the time. You
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: need better players.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah they mentioned everything, but players there.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just you need better hockey players. And not
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to say that. I think this is where a GM
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: can show how good they are or how good he is.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: You have draft capital, and you have salary cap space
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to work with, assuming you're not gonna You're gonna let
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of the over the older guys walk. So
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: now this is this is where you great gms or
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: even really good gms build great teams. And they do
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it in off seasons, which will begin a week from today,
• 34:29
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• 34:33
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  Speaker 1: All right, two o'clock hour. Here we go rolling along
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  Speaker 1: and uh yes, our week we visit heading into the draft,
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  Speaker 1: they do right now, just four picks, as we've been
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: talking about, but we kind of feel like they'll do
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: more than that. Steve Palosolo joined us thirty thirteen. Check
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the mic podcast. Let's talk some ed rushers today, Steve,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: how are you doing great?
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Appreciate you having me back as allways.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I love I love this time of the year. Let's talk.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the edge rushers. I'm gonna do something
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I've done with a couple guys. We've been talking about
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the draft with because it feels like when I say
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: edge rushers, it used to be we talked about, you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: defensive ends, right like, you know, in a four to three,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the two outside guys, those are your rushing guys. Maybe
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you blitz a linebacker. But now guys are called edge rushers.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: It could be technically an outside linebacker, it could be
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a five to two depending on what the fronts look
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: like and all those types of things. When you and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Sam and the guys thirty thirteen are talking about edge rushers,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: how how do you actually define what an edge rusher
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: is in today's NFL?
• 37:35
  Speaker 15: Yeah, you're right, things have changed, especially the last ten
• 37:37
  Speaker 15: years or so. It used to be, you know, if
• 37:39
  Speaker 15: teams ran a four to three, they had two defensive ends.
• 37:42
  Speaker 15: If teams ran a three to four, you know, three
• 37:44
  Speaker 15: down linemen, four linebackers, it was their two outside linebackers
• 37:49
  Speaker 15: who are really like defensive ends.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: They were like pass rushers, and you'd.
• 37:52
  Speaker 15: Always have to specify this guy's a three four outside
• 37:55
  Speaker 15: linebacker or this guy's a four to three defensive end.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: But now today's defense is because.
• 38:00
  Speaker 15: They play so much, you know, nickel and dime and
• 38:04
  Speaker 15: sub package, there's far fewer of those you know bas looks,
• 38:08
  Speaker 15: and it's really the same job description. So edge rushers
• 38:10
  Speaker 15: are guys who are setting the edge in the run
• 38:13
  Speaker 15: game and rushing the passer more often than not. They're
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: they're not they're not dropping the coverage all that often.
• 38:20
  Speaker 15: They still will, but they're they're pass rushers first in
• 38:23
  Speaker 15: their you know, edge setting run defenders. And I think
• 38:25
  Speaker 15: you just had to lump in the old school three
• 38:28
  Speaker 15: four outside linebacker, the old school four to three defensive end,
• 38:31
  Speaker 15: and you have to put them all into one group.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: It's really one position.
• 38:33
  Speaker 15: Some players might fit a little better in one scheme
• 38:35
  Speaker 15: than the other, but for the most part, they've got
• 38:38
  Speaker 15: the same role. And I think it got confusing back
• 38:40
  Speaker 15: in the day when you'd say, like if you said TJ.
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: Watt's a linebacker, because he's not a linebacker the same
• 38:46
  Speaker 15: way Ernest Jones is a linebacker. You know, Ernest Jones
• 38:50
  Speaker 15: is an inside linebacker.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: TJ. Watt is a pass rusher. So they're different.
• 38:54
  Speaker 15: So when you lump them in as edge rushers, I
• 38:55
  Speaker 15: think it's a lot easier and more descriptive of what
• 38:57
  Speaker 15: they're doing.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Safe to say, it's also kind of you're kind of
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: describing like scheme specific and teams specific and what what
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: they're looking for. I you know, it's funny like last
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: season with the Seahawks, they didn't have anybody that had
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: ten sacks. Their leading sacks guys were NUOSU who I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: guess you would consider an edge rusher kind of what
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you described set the edge, but it could be an
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: edge rusher. Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy are both guys
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that play inside. D law DeMarcus Lawrence had six he's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: on the outside, and then they had a bunch of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: guys with two to two and a half that came
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: from all over the place. Like for Seattle specifically, when
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: they're looking at this particular draft class and edge rushers,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I would assume what they're looking for in a lot
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: of ways is scheme specific. Right, what they might be
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: looking for might be different than what some other teams
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: are looking for in terms of what they're doing. I'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: specifically even talking right now about Hey, they're trying to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: replace boy A Mafe.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and look.
• 39:48
  Speaker 15: There's there's schemes specific, and I think that can be
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: overblown sometimes. I think if if you tell me, hey,
• 39:53
  Speaker 15: this guy can win one on one and get to
• 39:55
  Speaker 15: the quarterback. There's no team that's saying, hey, I don't
• 39:57
  Speaker 15: need that guy doesn't fit my system. But there's definitely
• 40:00
  Speaker 15: some you know, certain non negotiables that teams have, like
• 40:03
  Speaker 15: this guy has to have certain length or certain size,
• 40:06
  Speaker 15: or certain bulk or certain ability to win a certain
• 40:10
  Speaker 15: way or hold up against the run. I mean, that's
• 40:13
  Speaker 15: what you're that's what you're looking at. But yeah, Seattle
• 40:15
  Speaker 15: specifically trying to replace some guy like boy A Mafe.
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: You might say, hey, there are specific things that Mike
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: McDonald wants, but he's got you know, power players like
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: Derek Hall. He's had more of a you know, burst
• 40:28
  Speaker 15: off the edge type of player like boy A Mafe.
• 40:30
  Speaker 15: We've seen the veteran DeMarcus Lawrence, who can kind of
• 40:32
  Speaker 15: do it all, and Wozu who's more of a hybrid
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: old school three four outside linebacker. So I don't know
• 40:37
  Speaker 15: if there's an exact prototype that he's looking for, but
• 40:39
  Speaker 15: you know, somebody that can hold up against the run.
• 40:41
  Speaker 15: But like any team, you know, you want somebody that
• 40:43
  Speaker 15: can get after the q QB and win. They're one
• 40:45
  Speaker 15: on ones.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Steve Pelozola Check to Mike podcast a thirty third team
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• 40:51
  Speaker 1: worry about r Vel Reez and David Bailey. Those guys
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: be long gone by Seattle. By the time Seattle picks
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Rubin Bain will be long gone as well Junior from Miami.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about him because I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: think he's interesting. Is you look through here, like arm length,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the measurements of these guys, and you have to go
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: all the way down to like Cayden Curry, who's thirty
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and five eighths in terms of his length of his arms.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Ruben Bain thirty and seven eight. So we keep hearing
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: about how how explosive he can be and how different,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: but he's got short arms. How much do you think
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: that's going to hurt ruben Bain.
• 41:20
  Speaker 15: I think it's enough. I mean every building's going to
• 41:22
  Speaker 15: be talking about it. When you deal with outliers and
• 41:25
  Speaker 15: look outliers can be anything, right, it's anything that's extreme.
• 41:28
  Speaker 15: It could be like Arvel Reese is an outlier because
• 41:30
  Speaker 15: he's only played you know, about two hundred snaps or
• 41:33
  Speaker 15: three hundred snaps on the edge. If you're trying to
• 41:34
  Speaker 15: project him that's an outlier. That's not a lot of experience.
• 41:37
  Speaker 15: So you have to have those discussions.
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: Baine.
• 41:39
  Speaker 15: You have to have that discussion because most edge rushers
• 41:42
  Speaker 15: in the NFL have thirty three plus inch arms. This
• 41:46
  Speaker 15: is how you stay clean, keep you know, this is
• 41:48
  Speaker 15: how you set a hard edge, this is how you
• 41:52
  Speaker 15: it's just how you operate. And most players hit that threshold.
• 41:56
  Speaker 15: And once you're under thirty three inch arms, you're in
• 41:58
  Speaker 15: the thirty two category. You start to say, okay, is
• 42:00
  Speaker 15: that okay? And you know there are plenty of successful
• 42:03
  Speaker 15: players at thirty two and a half and what have you.
• 42:05
  Speaker 15: But Bain is thirty one or under. They did have
• 42:10
  Speaker 15: the combine measurement where most of the combine measurements have
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: been believed or not shorter than the pro day measurements
• 42:16
  Speaker 15: in the last two years.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: So figure out what that is. I don't know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 15: But let's say he's even got thirty one inch arms.
• 42:22
  Speaker 15: It's an outlier. So it has to be discussed and
• 42:24
  Speaker 15: you say, okay, does this show up on film. He's
• 42:26
  Speaker 15: got a lot of power, he's got a good bend,
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: he's got pretty good get off.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: He wins as a pass rusher.
• 42:32
  Speaker 15: But maybe against more experienced offensive tackles they can use,
• 42:36
  Speaker 15: you know, they can get their hands on him, lock
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: him up a little bit easier because he's got the
• 42:41
  Speaker 15: shorter arm. So that's why that discussion has to be
• 42:44
  Speaker 15: had in buildings, just because it's so different than what
• 42:46
  Speaker 15: almost every other players bring into the table.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some guys that could fit Seattle,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: not just in terms of what maybe they may or
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: may not fit what Mike McDonald's looking for. I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you're right, Steve, we're not really sure what he might
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: be looking for, and alam with John Schneider for Mike
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: McDonald the draft, but just in terms of worse Seattle's
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: picking thirty second overall, maybe they'll trade down so you'd
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: get past Bayne. I think everyone else seems to be
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: maybe a tweet or a first or a second rounder.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of those guys. Let's start
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: with Keldrick Falk from Auburn. Big dude, got some no
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: worries about his arm length. I don't think at thirty
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: five inches. So what about Kendrick Falk from Auburn.
• 43:23
  Speaker 15: No, I mean he's close to the built in a
• 43:25
  Speaker 15: lab size, but built in a lab for like the
• 43:29
  Speaker 15: old school three four defensive end where he's really long,
• 43:33
  Speaker 15: bigger player, the guys that used to the Red Bryant's role,
• 43:37
  Speaker 15: you know, the five tech role that he used to
• 43:38
  Speaker 15: play in Seattle. That's what Falk's body type is. So
• 43:41
  Speaker 15: the big question for him. He's also pretty young. He's
• 43:44
  Speaker 15: only twenty one, and he's been an excellent run defender.
• 43:47
  Speaker 15: He uses that length and the size extremely well in
• 43:50
  Speaker 15: the run game. Auburn did actually move him up and
• 43:52
  Speaker 15: down the line of scrimmagell he'd line up on the edge,
• 43:54
  Speaker 15: he'd line up over guards on the interior or straight
• 43:57
  Speaker 15: up head up over tackles at times, and he was
• 44:00
  Speaker 15: successful and productive in the run game.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: He just wasn't a productive pass rusher.
• 44:03
  Speaker 15: He was a more productive pass rusher in twenty twenty
• 44:06
  Speaker 15: four than he was last season. So anytime you're talking
• 44:08
  Speaker 15: about a first round edge defender, if the first thing
• 44:11
  Speaker 15: you ask is how well does you rush the passer?
• 44:12
  Speaker 15: And with Fulk it's it's a bit of a question mark.
• 44:14
  Speaker 15: It's underwhelming relative to other first round edge rushers, but
• 44:18
  Speaker 15: good football player, young, and he's a pretty good athlete
• 44:22
  Speaker 15: with good size to work with. So I think he's
• 44:24
  Speaker 15: a bit of a pass rush projection, but I think
• 44:26
  Speaker 15: a guy that you could get pretty good, you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 15: two down run defense from so that that smells like
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: a late first early second round type of player. We'll
• 44:34
  Speaker 15: see where he goes in the first if a team
• 44:35
  Speaker 15: really wants to take a chance there. But I think
• 44:37
  Speaker 15: he's a good football player that has to develop better
• 44:40
  Speaker 15: from a pass rushing perspective because he's just not there.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Yet and a true, a true young guy through year.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Junior did red shirt. So yeah, like you said, he's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: a young guy, Let's go to the other end of
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the spectrum, and that was Ruby Bainen. Junior's a Miami teammate,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a key Messidor is a six year senior. He's been
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: around for a long time, so you should you should
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: have plenty of tape on Mesador.
• 45:01
  Speaker 15: What are we seeing on him? It's one of my
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: favorite things is Mezzador. I feel like Mezzador and Fulk
• 45:06
  Speaker 15: they have to get drafted back to back for the
• 45:08
  Speaker 15: differences of the youth of Falk. I mean, the reason
• 45:11
  Speaker 15: why people bring up youth is they say, well, what
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: will Keldrick Falk be in four years? And it's like, well,
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: what was a key Messador four years ago when he
• 45:18
  Speaker 15: was Falk's age or five years ago. So that's what's interesting.
• 45:21
  Speaker 15: Mezzador at twenty five years old, he'll be twenty six.
• 45:24
  Speaker 15: I think during the season he's he's really polished. He
• 45:28
  Speaker 15: can win inside outside, he was. I mean, if you
• 45:31
  Speaker 15: just watched Miami last year, it was number three, Mezzador,
• 45:33
  Speaker 15: number four, Ruben Bain and others creating havoc all over
• 45:36
  Speaker 15: the line of scrimmage, you know, both sides of the
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: line into inside outside. Mesador is just a really good
• 45:41
  Speaker 15: football player, but he peaked late. He did it at
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: twenty five. And then the age question, it comes up
• 45:46
  Speaker 15: a lot, and I think it's twofolds. The first thing is, yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 15: he might be, you know, thirty years old when you're
• 45:51
  Speaker 15: you know, figuring out a second contract. That's not the
• 45:53
  Speaker 15: biggest deal in the world, but it's not ideal. And
• 45:55
  Speaker 15: then the other part is you say, when you're watching
• 45:57
  Speaker 15: a twenty five year old play college football, how much
• 46:00
  Speaker 15: is he taking advantage of players who are younger.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: It's like when I go to when I'm.
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: In rookie ball at twenty four ian and I'm dominating
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: a twenty four year old. The Brewers said, hey, you're
• 46:09
  Speaker 15: twenty four, you're facing nineteen year olds.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: That's not as impressive. We have to adjust for age.
• 46:14
  Speaker 15: Baseball does that really well because of the minor league system,
• 46:17
  Speaker 15: and in football sometimes you have to do that when
• 46:18
  Speaker 15: a guy is dominating at an older age, you have
• 46:22
  Speaker 15: to factor that in. What did you see last year
• 46:25
  Speaker 15: on film? Wasn't a man amongst boys taking advantage of them?
• 46:28
  Speaker 15: And I think there's elements of that with Mezador. But
• 46:30
  Speaker 15: I think he's a really good football player. He'll step
• 46:32
  Speaker 15: in and be a good football player. He's a first
• 46:34
  Speaker 15: round player. But not every team wants to deal with
• 46:37
  Speaker 15: the twenty five year old question and in that second
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: contract deal, so it'll be interesting how teams handle that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: It is T Palozzolo joining us here from the thirty
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: third team talking about edge rushers today for the Seattle
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Seahawks and the draft coming up. A guy that I've
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: heard a lot about and I can't wait to hear
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: what your assessment is, what your thoughts are on this.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: What you're hearing about this guy, Zion Young from Missouri
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: is it feels like one of those one of those
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: guys we have him every year in the draft. That
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: might be somewhat polarizing. Probably some will love him, some
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: may not even have him on the draft. But who
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: knows where this guy's going to be. But what do
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: you see from the edge rusher out of Missouri.
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: He's getting a lot of hype right now. He had
• 47:15
  Speaker 15: a nice Senior Bowl. He's up to thirty eight on
• 47:17
  Speaker 15: the consensus board.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Zion Young.
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: My guest this morning on our check the Mic show
• 47:22
  Speaker 15: was John Ledyard and we went through edge rush rankings
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: this morning. He was not a big fan or has
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: not been a big fan of Zion Young, but I
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: know a lot of people are. He's got good size,
• 47:31
  Speaker 15: good length. You could see him use that length and
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: size in the run game. Doesn't always take on pollers
• 47:36
  Speaker 15: the way I would like to see, but he's got
• 47:37
  Speaker 15: all the tools to play the run.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: He is a pretty good pass rusher.
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: He's another guy where you say, okay, he's had a
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: pretty good success rushing the passer. And again, when I
• 47:46
  Speaker 15: look at success rushing the passer, I'm not looking at
• 47:49
  Speaker 15: sack totals.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at how often do you win one on? Once?
• 47:51
  Speaker 15: You know, how do you what type of move set
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: do you have, how do you win? I think he's
• 47:55
  Speaker 15: okay across the board. Would love to see a little
• 47:58
  Speaker 15: bit more power from youngest, especially given the length. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 15: think you see more of his power in the run game,
• 48:04
  Speaker 15: which is always interesting to me. So I think he
• 48:06
  Speaker 15: looks like a fringe first you know, first second round
• 48:08
  Speaker 15: type of player. But to your point, it'll be a
• 48:10
  Speaker 15: little bit of I have the beholder for him if
• 48:14
  Speaker 15: teams like him enough in the first round, and you
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: know what happens with the second round, The players will
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: fall of the second round. It's like this guy doesn't
• 48:21
  Speaker 15: have enough first or enough length, or enough whatever it
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: may be. A lot of these edge rushers have that,
• 48:26
  Speaker 15: like I'd rather take them in the second round because
• 48:28
  Speaker 15: of some questions. And I think that's where I land
• 48:31
  Speaker 15: on Zion Young. I like him more as a second round.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: Type of player.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these are all guys I'm talking about are probably
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: late first or second round guys, which is perfect because's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: where Seattle's going to be. I don't think we'll see
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: them moving up in the draft. TJ. Parker from Clemson
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: kind of falls in that as well, probably what late
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: first second somewhere in there.
• 48:48
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I originally I was talking to people around the
• 48:51
  Speaker 15: Senior Bowl and the suggestion was maybe twenty to forty,
• 48:54
  Speaker 15: and I think it might go a little bit lower.
• 48:56
  Speaker 15: And Parker's like every Clemson Tiger last year little annoying
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: to me because they were I mean, Parker was projected
• 49:04
  Speaker 15: as a top ten pick. His teammate Peter Woods was
• 49:06
  Speaker 15: projected as a top ten pick. They had their entire
• 49:08
  Speaker 15: offensive lineback, their top three receivers, a four year starter,
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: a quarterback, and.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: They all underachieved. Yeah, and I'm mad at all of
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: them for underachieved.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: So basically, is he the Kate Klubnick of DNS then
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: ed rushers might be.
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they all.
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: Peaked in twenty twenty four. They just all underwhelmed.
• 49:25
  Speaker 15: They should have been the perfect CFP playoff, not even participant,
• 49:29
  Speaker 15: but they had a chance to win and they all underachieved.
• 49:32
  Speaker 15: So I think that's the question with Parker. He's not
• 49:33
  Speaker 15: really a dynamic athlete. I think he really wins well
• 49:36
  Speaker 15: with leverage and low pads, and he can use his length.
• 49:39
  Speaker 15: It just doesn't show up enough.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 49:41
  Speaker 15: It's there's a difference when you're scouting, you're looking at
• 49:44
  Speaker 15: what can of guy do and you know PFF and
• 49:48
  Speaker 15: other production based analytical sites. They say how often do
• 49:51
  Speaker 15: you do it? And you want both right, you want
• 49:53
  Speaker 15: a little bit of Hey, this guy shows the ability
• 49:56
  Speaker 15: to do all the things you're looking for, and then
• 49:58
  Speaker 15: you ask, Okay, how often does he actually do it?
• 50:00
  Speaker 15: And how often just did not show up enough this
• 50:04
  Speaker 15: year for TJ.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: Parker.
• 50:05
  Speaker 15: I think that's why he's now all of a sudden
• 50:06
  Speaker 15: in the late first early second round conversation rather than
• 50:09
  Speaker 15: in the top ten where people thought he might be
• 50:11
  Speaker 15: going last summer.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: What do you like about his game when he is
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: playing well.
• 50:15
  Speaker 15: Pad level, in length, I think he's he wins with leverage,
• 50:18
  Speaker 15: so you see, you know, the guys at the top,
• 50:20
  Speaker 15: like the David Baileies of the world, are gonna win
• 50:22
  Speaker 15: with burst and speed and quicks and I think Parker
• 50:25
  Speaker 15: just wins with leverage and pad level and just he's
• 50:28
  Speaker 15: overall a solid football player, but there's a there's some
• 50:31
  Speaker 15: dynamism missing there that you hope that if he just
• 50:34
  Speaker 15: had a little bit more there, then he could be
• 50:36
  Speaker 15: a really good player.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about Steve Steve Balozola joining us
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: for thirty thirteen. Check the Mike Podcast I've heard a
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: lot of talk about Malachi Lawrence from UCF. Again, you know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: not at power five school necessarily, or at least in
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: one of the bigger programs, but it feels like he's
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: getting some traction. What do you see from Malachi Lawrence?
• 50:55
  Speaker 15: He is he's now favored to go in the first round,
• 50:57
  Speaker 15: and he would be from a media perspective, more of
• 50:59
  Speaker 15: a I think the name showed up a little bit later.
• 51:02
  Speaker 15: He didn't go to the Senior Bowl. He went to
• 51:04
  Speaker 15: the Shrine Bowl. But you know what I was just
• 51:06
  Speaker 15: talking about with what was TJ. Parker missing? What was Keldric?
• 51:10
  Speaker 15: Malachi Lawrence has that the athleticism the first the bend.
• 51:14
  Speaker 15: It just looks twitchy and quick and explosive off the edge.
• 51:18
  Speaker 15: The question for Lawrence is, Okay, he did it the UCF.
• 51:21
  Speaker 15: It's still the Big twelve right now. But he's got
• 51:22
  Speaker 15: about thirteen hundred snaps in his career. He's never played
• 51:25
  Speaker 15: more than four hundred and twenty snaps in a season.
• 51:27
  Speaker 15: He has one season of elite production. And when I
• 51:30
  Speaker 15: like to look at edge rushers, I think I think
• 51:32
  Speaker 15: college production does matter, especially for certain positions, but especially
• 51:37
  Speaker 15: for college pass rushers. I think if you can get
• 51:40
  Speaker 15: after the quarterback in college across your career in you're
• 51:43
  Speaker 15: athletic enough, those are the guys that generally translate at
• 51:46
  Speaker 15: the next level. So Lawrence, the question is going to
• 51:48
  Speaker 15: be one year of production, a little bit inexperienced, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 15: he's got all the tool set and that's why I
• 51:54
  Speaker 15: think teams are looking at him at him in the
• 51:56
  Speaker 15: first round. John Lanyard, my guest earlier today, has him
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: as edge one. He's got him in the top tier.
• 52:01
  Speaker 15: He loves him just because of the tools. So I
• 52:03
  Speaker 15: think that he looks like a top ten caliber player.
• 52:06
  Speaker 15: But it's not like he went out there and dominated
• 52:08
  Speaker 15: top competition over a three year period, because if he
• 52:10
  Speaker 15: did that, he'd be going top five. So he's got
• 52:13
  Speaker 15: the tools to look the feel. He's done it to
• 52:15
  Speaker 15: a point, but maybe not enough. But I think he
• 52:18
  Speaker 15: ends up going in the first round.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Malachai Long so he could slip second round, but you
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: think he still goes first round.
• 52:24
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean the betting markets have him going in
• 52:26
  Speaker 15: the first right now. Not that that's you know, set
• 52:28
  Speaker 15: in stone or anything like that, but I think when
• 52:31
  Speaker 15: teams are sitting there stacking their edge board and they're
• 52:34
  Speaker 15: saying Mesador is old, and Falk can't get after the
• 52:36
  Speaker 15: quarterback and Parker underwhelmed. Well, what about Lawrence because he's
• 52:39
  Speaker 15: got all the tools in the toolbox and he already
• 52:42
  Speaker 15: started the development curve last year at UCF. If we
• 52:45
  Speaker 15: continue the development curve, he could look like, you know,
• 52:48
  Speaker 15: a top ten player in this draft if it continues
• 52:50
  Speaker 15: on that trajectory. So I think those are the conversations
• 52:52
  Speaker 15: happening in the draft room right now with Malachai Lawrence
• 52:54
  Speaker 15: and teams are going to say, in this wide open draft,
• 52:57
  Speaker 15: I think he's probably worth the first rounder.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: All right, let me get a we're we're kind of
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want to run out of time, but maybe
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: just kind of almost Paolozzolo's choice, someone that could go
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: second round like day two, that you like and you
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: kind of know what Mike McDonald wants to do. And
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I'll just throw names out there. You pick one, Cashus
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Howell from a and m R. Mason Thomas from Oklahoma,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Gabe Jacks from Illinois. Any of those guys jump out
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: at you as a potential Seahawk fit.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: Definitely Cashius Howell.
• 53:26
  Speaker 15: I mean, if you're trying to lose if you're trying
• 53:27
  Speaker 15: to replace the pass rush specialist that a boy A
• 53:30
  Speaker 15: Mafe was. I think Howell has the chance to do that,
• 53:32
  Speaker 15: especially because Seattle has a deep defensive line and they
• 53:36
  Speaker 15: can rotate players and they're not necessarily looking for an
• 53:39
  Speaker 15: eight hundred snaps starter.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: On the edge.
• 53:41
  Speaker 15: I think Cashus Howell at worst is a very good
• 53:43
  Speaker 15: designated pass rusher. He's got the same arm length questions
• 53:46
  Speaker 15: that ruben Bain has, but his burst off the edge
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: is outstanding. Last year, Texas A and M first rounder
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: Shamar Stewart you're watching. If you're watching Stewart or Nick
• 53:54
  Speaker 15: s Gorton last year who went in the second round,
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: it was Casius Howell, number eighteen, who popped every single
• 53:59
  Speaker 15: time I was watching the other Texas A and M
• 54:01
  Speaker 15: pass rushers last year.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: So Howell can play. He can also drop into coverage.
• 54:05
  Speaker 15: He's got some reps where he's running down the field
• 54:07
  Speaker 15: with tight ends and making pass breakups in the whole thing.
• 54:09
  Speaker 15: So love his versatility in coverage. I think he can
• 54:12
  Speaker 15: get after the QB. Great athlete. He's not a hard
• 54:16
  Speaker 15: edgectter in the run game, and he's got the short arms,
• 54:18
  Speaker 15: so those are gonna be the questions. But if you
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: put him in the right role, five hundred snaps, six
• 54:22
  Speaker 15: hundred snaps, get after the quarterback and they cashes, Howell.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: Can do some damage.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I do laugh because his arms are basically almost identical
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: length wise to his arm length to Reuben Bayn Junior.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's really close. One guy I want to
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: ask you about just because we watched him. I don't
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: know if you know this, Steve. You're out there in
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the Midwest, in a little state called Ohio, but you
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: might know this. The world has evolved around Michigan the
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: last few years in Michigan athletics, whether it be football
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: or this year basketball. Guy we've watched play a lot
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: of football. Derek Moore looks like probably a Day two,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: maybe even a third round pick. Always thought he's a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: really good football player. Maybe he's not spectacular. But what
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: do you think about Derek Moore?
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: I think you gave the generic description that's correct about
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: Derek Moore. Good.
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: You just him.
• 55:08
  Speaker 15: He's a good He's a good football player, and I
• 55:11
  Speaker 15: don't think he's terribly explosive or athletic. I think he
• 55:15
  Speaker 15: uses his hands pretty well. He likes to engage rushers,
• 55:18
  Speaker 15: win with win with technique. But he's been dependable. He's
• 55:21
  Speaker 15: been he's been just good on the edge in the
• 55:24
  Speaker 15: run game. He's rushed the passer fairly well. And then ironically,
• 55:28
  Speaker 15: his teammate Jayshawn Barram, who converted from linebacker to edge,
• 55:32
  Speaker 15: might be the more explosive, exciting player, and I think
• 55:35
  Speaker 15: some teams are gonna like.
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: Him as well.
• 55:36
  Speaker 15: But Moore has been the more consistently dependable player. And
• 55:39
  Speaker 15: that's the type of player who goes, you know, mid
• 55:41
  Speaker 15: second into the third round and plays in the league
• 55:43
  Speaker 15: a long time.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what Derek Moore looks like. Ah Man,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: great stuff, Steve. I really I enjoy our conversations during
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the season, I got admit, but this is always fun
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: because again for people to know we've had Steve on
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: for well and kind of roster building and the draft
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff is you're kind of I know
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: what you really enjoy as well. This is great stuff.
• 56:01
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• 56:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, cranking it up.
• 56:08
  Speaker 15: During draft season, we try to cover every team equally,
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• 56:13
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• 56:24
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• 56:27
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  Speaker 1: By the way, people asked some of you asked about
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• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: The number for me?
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  Speaker 1: I I yeah, I was just gonna say the funny thing.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the twist. If it really is him, he's funny
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  Speaker 1: because he mentioned it yesterday. He's a three to six guy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he but I like or two five three anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: if I want to know about a prospect, this was
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  Speaker 1: I'll have Chris Crawford on absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The year we did that, it was either refused to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: talk year or they were so bad year that we
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: just focused the entire summer on a weekly We basically
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: rotated the play by play guys through for the four
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  Speaker 1: for Modesto, Arkansas, Colonel and and others. One now it's Riley.
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  Speaker 1: Riley's intersecond year, right.
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  Speaker 4: Forty five says trade Randy, bring up Wisdom and Emerson.
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  Speaker 4: You want to trade one of the few guys that's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: actually hitting for you right now? Interesting that weird moves.
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  Speaker 1: There's just panic in the streets.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we haven't even said the words that we
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: don't say.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. I'm not sure who it's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: better for right now because I'm looking at the text line.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Is this better for Todd and the Kraken that the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Mariners suck? Or is it better for John Jerry and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Justin that the Kraken aren't doing well? Because I look
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: at the text line and all it is is just
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: absolute bitterness.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Now it's to the point where they're not helping each
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: other because they're being looped into the same category.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: Both suck right.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Now, football, see he's in.
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  Speaker 8: When's the draft?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: Two weeks today?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: By the way, two weeks from today is the draft? Yes,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: two weeks a day. One week from today. Hockey seasons
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: officially over, but two weeks from day the cracket or
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the NFL draft takes place. Listen, what if what if
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I told you? What if I told you? What if
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: you told me that the Mariner is going to come
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: home and put up two crooked numbers in the three
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: games and win two of the three games against Houston.
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  Speaker 4: It's four games, by the way, Oh god, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: They played Mondaday weirdest. Okay, went four.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say they win three out of four and put
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: up crookeet numbers and at least two of those games.
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  Speaker 5: I think there would be less panic would.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Be would we be?
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  Speaker 8: Okay?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: Oh god?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Freddy, oh ye double double. I was saying my card yesterday,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: what minus minus the birdies that he had? Freddy was
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: like under part when we made the turn. I know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and now he's plus six, went south quick, He's plus six.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: Called a corner for you.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: That's seen at the back night. It drew it yesterday. Hey,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: you were having fun to over through five and that's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: not how it finished. All right, we're good, We are good,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: all right. David Maler joins us from Husky Spring Practice Motlake.
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  Speaker 6: Next.
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  Speaker 1: So, I I did this last segment and I said
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: this last segment.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: I heard it.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Oh you did.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: That's terrible, terrible segment.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Oh really, you should be a shame you didn't hear
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: it because it was about you.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: I'm going to talk to the boss.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: It was about you. And it was a compliment.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: Dig you dig your contract man.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I said, compliment terrible.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: I don't like compliments.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I know you don't. You hate those.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: They're so dumb.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: So here's what I'm gonna say instead, Hugh.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: That compliment themselves on the air.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, oh my god. But here's what I'll say
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you you weren't very good. But he was really good
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: in that interview with my dream.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: I stunk. Here was fantastic guy stunk.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: I had.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I had a couple of that. I had a couple
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of people. I was playing golf yesterday and afterwards I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: might have been founding found in the nineteenth hole and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I had. I had a couple of people come up
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: and say that one of them was one of them
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: was kind of hysterical. I said, hey, you should really
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: listen to your station did a really good interview with
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. You should go back and listen to it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: Don't you hate when people say that?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I said, I said, trust me, I was in the car.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I listened to the whole thing.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I listened to the whole thing. And then somebody else said, hey,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: that was a great interview those guys, And honestly it
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: was Mike McDonald. Do you remember like when he first
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: got here, it was like six word answers, very subdued. Now,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I know we won a Super Bowl this year, but
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: just always loosened up, loosened up a lot. Yeah, no
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: doubt you said when you said, I'm not really going
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: to I don't want to ask this, I don't want
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: to go down there, and he goes, no, go ahead
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: and ask it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 18: When we were talking about the offense, ye, how they yeah,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 18: and he's like, well what do you think? I was like, well,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 18: how about you score more points in the red zone?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 18: I agree, whatever, blah blah blah. And it wasn't just
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 18: the points. I mean, Mike Hogrin told me a while
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 18: back that when you get to the twenty, every pass
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 18: should be to the end zone, right like, You've got
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 18: thirty yards to work with, and if you if you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 18: include the end zone, then you're loosening things up even
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 18: more so than you You know, things are tightening up, obviously.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 8: I don't know why more teams don't do that.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 18: And you know what with the with the personnel, the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 18: Hawks are going to be able to field next year
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 18: that pass catcher, I would say, yeah.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Why not, Well, let's be more of a strength in
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: your running back room for sure for it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, but I agree, I was a
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: terrible in person.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Who's this homegrown person you're talking about?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: Why is this old doddery and gold guy lives in Kirkland.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 18: You know, every now and then you see him stumbling
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 18: down the street on his way to the bar and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 18: Anthony's you know, making the turn to the Boss Bay Hall.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 18: If you can make it that far, David down the road, listen.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 18: You know Sun tanning on the beach of Lake Washington
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 18: for an early morning swim.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Did you uh when you you guys asked him a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: couple of different times, about the running backs right right?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think that you think you're just gonna
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: hope to find a rookie in uh in camp? Or
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: do you think they believe one of these guys?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: Actually?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 18: I think, Well, the funny thing is is I actually
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 18: asked Mike about that yesterday. And this is the great
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 18: part about these interviews is that we get to you know,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 18: read into it.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: You know, what do you mean, what does he mean?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: Let's translate exactly.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 18: Now we get to spend probably five more months thinking
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 18: about it, right, I asked him, I said, is there
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 18: a guy in that locker room, in the running back room,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 18: whether Halani or Acres or the new kid from Green
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 18: Bay uh is Vellis Jones still here by the way,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 18: I think, yeah, right, like any of those dudes. Is
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 18: there anybody that you think we are like missing the
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 18: boat on?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: Are we are we under selling?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 18: Because Millan said JACCARTI are right, And so I asked
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 18: Mike on the air, you know, is there a guy
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 18: that we're kind of maybe you.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: Know, missing the boat? And he he would name one guy.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 18: Yeah, So I don't know, maybe that's just his style
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 18: that he's not gonna you know, single one guy out,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 18: whether positively or negatively. Maybe he doesn't want to rock
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 18: the boat with the other guys on that football team.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: Or maybe it means maybe that he doesn't like anybody either.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be that.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 18: I well, yeah, I don't know, man, I mean they
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 18: got obviously the Monday after the draft is the day,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 18: but we could really get a kind of a real
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 18: feel for what this is going to look like. And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 18: it's not just the draft, it's the trades, right that
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 18: will take part over that weekend too, right.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean they've done they've certainly been active
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: and not just drafting but trades over the years on
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: draft days. So I would say, you know what, if
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: there is a guy I think you're right, Like maybe
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: it is JAKARTI right, maybe one of those guys, right,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: but he's not going to give a guy that has
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: done nothing in this league that kind of pump on radio.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I go, oh, yeah, like he's probably gonna get hearn it, right,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: It probably throws all those guys that are the same bucket.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: The thing is is that the two guys that are
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the the two guys that probably have the highest upside
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: of that room because we know what Halani is. Of
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: those guys, what it is is I think that of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: those guys right now, right and Macintosh, they're both coming
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: off major injuries. Yes, right so and Charbony.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 18: I mean it's not a great how about this for
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 18: breaking news. It's not a good position to be in.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 18: People seek running back room. I mean, you know again,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 18: I just wonder if we're gonna be sitting around in
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 18: October thinking, God, they should have just given.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: Canine the money? Why not just give the money? Are
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: we gonna be asking that question?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 13: Uh?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: The is button stuck? He can't turn his mic on.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: No, I got you, I got you, you got me?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: It is lit up? Yeah, No, it's so, this is
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: this is an thing here.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: Here you go.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 16: Hang on.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Well, we haven't broken studio softy. I don't know if
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: you know that. Headsets got hey, the headsets got everything.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: No, it is what I'm on remote is a good No, No,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: it's me.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: It's I pushed the talk back button to tell Andrews
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: it sticks.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: I stick.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just found that out. Thanks to be careful. Got
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: that figured out. This is I pushed the talkback button
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: because every time Anders was talking to Jess all I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: heard was them in the whole studio.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 18: So it's another another thing to add to Jeff White
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 18: and Terry Ryan's to do list.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Jackson, you need to get on that real quick. I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing right now, worrying about your
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: sounders getting there getting smoked by t Gris or Tigris
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: or Tony the Tiger told.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 18: Jackson yesterday on the show, I said, the talkback button
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 18: is sticking.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: It's stuck, Jackson. Jackson told me. He said, don't say anything.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: Let's see if it affects Ian.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jackson, come here, come in, see come in the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: studio so I can kick your ass. Well, how did
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: it not work?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: See, Mark must not talk to Kid, and apparently Chuck
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't talk to Ashley.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: No, he doesn't even know who Kid is. For God's sake, No, Mark,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: what's the name of your producer? I got a producer.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: What I don't know?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: The problem is.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: One and a half.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: Huh.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 18: You ever noticed that Kid does the show with the dark?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 18: You ever walk into the control room but he's in there.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: It's because he's sleeping the whole time.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 18: I can't see anything, so I think in his defense.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 18: He looks into that mirror, that window, sorry, and he
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 18: can't even see anybody sitting there because black well, I'm
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 18: just gonna leave that talk back button and if if
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 18: it doesn't get fixed, and good luck Chuck tomorrow morning.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Although he's not in. Actually I think it's Ashley. Somebody
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: fixed it. We like Ashley, fix it for Ashley.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 13: All Right?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Is Petro Sount today? He Hello, shut up, shut up,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: all right. Softy's coming up. He's at at Husky practice.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: We think we're all gonna be on the air in
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: a minute. See by