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What Was Goldfish Swallowing? A Dirt Nap City Dead End · Dirt Nap City - History's Most Interesting Dead People

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: Hey Alex.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're gonna do a dead end.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: What's a what's a dead end again?
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: These are things that used to be popular and maybe aren't so popular anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: Kind of things that maybe we grew up with, or maybe things that were even around before we were born.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the one I have today was way before we were born.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've actually talked about it in a couple of episodes, uh, but it's one of the stupider things that people used to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think our you've already had a couple of stupid things, you've already had flagpole sitting and pet rocks.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you definitely gravitate towards the the dumber things that uh we used to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and uh maybe it's a celebration of the fact that we don't do them anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because this one uh started in 1939, and if all places um it started on a college campus, I think it was actually Harvard.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why did why do these dumb things start on college campuses?
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's always the smartest people that do the dumbest things.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, this guy Lothrop Withington.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: Now, what a name is such a Harvard name, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_02: L-O-T-H-R-O-P, Lothrop Withington Jr.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, not only Lothrop Withington.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, in 1939, Lothrop Withington made a ten dollar bet with one of his classmates, and this got a lot of publicity in the school.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like people were talking about it.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh actually, like the the reporter from the college newspaper showed up, and the bet was whether or not he could uh gulp a goldfish.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: Did you know that was coming?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I did.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: I I had a feeling this is where you were going.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'm actually surprised that I never saw you do this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I've never I did swallow, uh I've swallowed a couple of crickets on a bet before, like live.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: But goldfish.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_03: I one time bet you a lottery ticket, and you had a dog drink milk out of your mouth.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have done that, and I did get a lottery ticket, which didn't win, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: But this guy, Lothrop uh Withington, he he took a goldfish out, he swallowed it, he won the bet, and you know, it was that's where goldfish gulping or or goldfish swallowing kind of started to started to become a fad.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: And not only did it become a fad, but uh Lothrop Withington Jr.
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  SPEAKER_02: actually got kind of famous for this and appeared on some game shows.
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  SPEAKER_02: He talked about it, he lived until he was 96 years old and and died in 2013.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and like that was kind of his main claim to fame was he was the first person to publicly swallow a goldfish.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, there was actually a ruse 10 years earlier by the actor Buster Keaton.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you know he is, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Physical, physical comedy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, he was at a Hollywood party and he uh pulled a got goldfish out of a pond that was at the party uh from a net, like kind of netted it, pulled it out, and swallowed it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And everybody just went ballistic.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, what are you doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: It was it was crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it turned out he had taken a carrot and he had carved it to look like a fish.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that that's a good, that's a good prank.
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  SPEAKER_03: I might use that one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Buster Keaton in 1929.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, Lothrop Whittington, Withington Jr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um did it in 39, and then all bets were off.
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  SPEAKER_02: People were doing this like crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: They were trying to set records.
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  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, a month after uh Lothrop did his one fish, someone did 25 like a month later, and then 37.
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  SPEAKER_03: Frat parties, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Frat parties.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, this was at MIT, actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: Again, the smart kids.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh 19 uh same year, 1989, nine, or sorry, 1939, um, a kid named uh Albert Hayes set a record of 42, and then um there was somebody who actually swallowed.
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  SPEAKER_02: Can you guess what the the kind of world record back then was?
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  SPEAKER_03: So are we talking about one swallow?
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  SPEAKER_02: We're talking about one fish per swallow.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how many fish?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh so I'm talking about how many fish they did.
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  SPEAKER_03: So not just a mouthful of fish.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm talking about like, you know, you take one, you take another one, you take another one, keep the eating contest.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I would think that's not as impressive as like sticking 200 fish in your mouth and swallowing them all in.
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  SPEAKER_01: All at once?
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not that's that's a feature.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's giving me the preach.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's fine.
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  SPEAKER_03: That should be the record.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just doing it one time, one fish a bunch of times, just sounds tedious.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um well 42.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: What if someone beat that record and guess what it how many it was?
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever they did, I could beat it by one.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_03: If it just I wouldn't want to, but it's I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Could you though?
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: Could you?
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, at some point would be a waste of my time, but it wouldn't be like dangerous.
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  SPEAKER_03: At some oh no, no, actually, actually, there's so I would think the dangerous part is the water that it's in ingesting the water, not the fish itself.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, this this um guy named Joseph uh Delaburno Delaborato uh from Clark University uh set the record at 89.
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  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Think about how much volume that is, even if they're small goldfish, 89 is just a lot of water to drink.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't think they drank them.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think they pluck them out by the I think they pluck them out by the tail and drop it in their mouth.
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  SPEAKER_03: I could probably do 90.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if I had to.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, anybody could.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's whether you want to or not.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it doesn't seem very hard.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's okay, so so so first of all, you know, this is so tell me somebody died doing this, aren't you?
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's got to be oh no, people have died from it.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: People have died from it.
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  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, there is a book called I Died Swallowing a Goldfish and Other Life Lessons from the Morgue by a guy named Kent Holloway.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this guy worked in a morgue and he saw someone who had come in because they died from swallowing a goldfish.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, how does why?
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  SPEAKER_03: How did how did it how would it kill you?
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, first of all, they carry parasites, um, like intestinal worms that can be transferred to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: They carry bacteria.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they taste like mud, right?
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it isn't it isn't sushi grade, is what you're saying.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever, whatever they ate.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, they're basically carp, right?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Cold goldfish um were were they they were big in Asia.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: We we talked uh a couple of weeks ago about um Marco Polo and Kubla Khan.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure Kubla Khan had goldfish back then.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: Had a koi pond.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Had had a koi pond, kubla con koi pond.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: But we're just talking.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: Is that your new miniature golf uh place?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the pleasure dome of Kubla Khan's Koi Pond.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I thought they were the little tiny kind though that you'd get in the bag.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so so let's let's talk for a minute about goldfish.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: Goldfish actually um are omnivores, so they eat anything.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they're they're they're not picky about what they eat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Typically, when they're in um captivity, they eat pellets, but you know, sometimes they're fed blood worms, sometimes they're fed uh they'll eat plants, they'll eat uh algae, all kinds of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: The oldest living uh goldfish live to an age of guess on record.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there may have been there may have been older living goldfish, but the the the one that we know about that lived the longest lived to how long?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the longest one I ever kept was about eight days.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_03: Eight days, okay.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, uh four years?
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  SPEAKER_03: 49 years.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_03: No, what a goldfish?
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: So they're actually actually if they are the reason they die after eight days is because people don't generally give them what they need.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're they're in a little bowl, and they're in too small of a container, they're they're only fed the pellets, and because they're an omnivore, they actually need a new, uh a more varied um uh diet than that.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: They the water isn't recirculating, it's just yeah, the water, the water gets stagnant.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, they're pretty dirty fish.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think they poop a lot.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, so 49 years there was a the goldfish, and and take a guess how big they can get.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I've seen some koi ponds where they they they can get pretty big.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, I'm I'm not even talking about I'm not even talking about koi koi or carp.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: So they are actually not goldfish technically.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: But they look like giant goldfish.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: They they do, they do, but they're two different types of fish.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: I guess a carp, uh maybe a goldfish is a type of carp, but it's not the same thing as a koi fish.
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  SPEAKER_02: So they don't get that big?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they can get 18 inches and 10 pounds.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's a goldfish, not a carp.
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  SPEAKER_02: And do they actually live in the like the sea?
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're they're typically freshwater.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Freshwater fish.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you actually have them in the wild?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, I think what happened is I think they were originally bred.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: They were they were they were wild fish that were much like dogs, you know, they were like wolves.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: There were wolves.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, there were fish that were bred to look a certain way.
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  SPEAKER_02: And actually in in China, this was where they were really big, they were bred to be that gold color and could be only only be owned by um uh wealthy people.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: We're not pictures of goldfish, they're not really gold, they're orange.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they vary, they can vary in color.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there actually is a type of goldfish called a ranchu, and uh they can cost like$150.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, you can get some of them at the at the fair, you can win it in a little bag.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, funny, funny story, uh, one of uh my daughter's friends actually gave her a koi fish for her birthday one time, and we're like, Who gives you a koi fish?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Then we had a koi fish we had to deal with.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: But I was gonna ask, have you ever had like an aquarium and bit all in on the whole thing?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, it wasn't a coi, it was a beta, a beta fish.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, those are the ones you can't put together.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right, they kill each other.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yep.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: We have we had we had that beta fish, and we ended up getting a tank for it, and then we had some frogs, two frogs.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: They were named sock uh Popper and Sucky were the two frogs.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of funny they would name the most aggressive fish a beta fish.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: Should be the alpha fish, wouldn't it?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: Shouldn't it?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess so.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: I hadn't thought about that.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, even if you put a mirror up, and then we actually had for a while, I I think we had this, we had this tank, you know.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, my daughter had gotten this beta fish for her birthday from one of her friends.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: So we had this tank that it was in, and we just kind of felt like since we had the tank, we always had to keep fish.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: So we had um several other, you know, small fish, little we never had goldfish in it, but we did end up with an eel, and the eel was actually pretty cool.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_03: We had an eel.
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  SPEAKER_03: We had a when I was little, we had a um fish tank with the we had an eel, and then it disappeared, and then um jumped out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh well, we didn't know, and then one time my parents found me on the uh stairs that were behind the goldfish eating a pretzel that I had found on the uh pretzel stick that I had found on the uh stairway, of course.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: And that was your eel?
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: That was the eel.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: So our eel was named Joe, Joe Ely.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: And nice he uh he jumped out and yeah, same kind of thing.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but they would also the eels would bury themselves in the little rocks down at the bottom sometimes.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if yours ever did that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But but we're talking about goldfish swallowing and and goldfish.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so actually, goldfish sleep with their eyes open, they don't have eyelids, so they can't close them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um they're often seen as a symbol of good luck, and there were sailors in the um, you know, back in the back in the day that would have a um they called it a uh uh they were Buddhists and they called these things mercy ponds.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: So when a sailor would catch a goldfish, the Buddhists would um take them in these mercy ponds, and if they were donated to the mercy ponds, it was supposed to bring good weather and good um good luck to the sailors.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the ones that these guys were eating though, or ingesting, they were swallowing, how big were they?
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: These were probably your little smaller, um, maybe the size of, you know, like like their main body was maybe a little bigger than a quarter, you know?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: And so then all in, like imagine a quarter with a tail and a and and a fin on top.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that would be what would prevent somebody that's eating twenty five from eating twenty-six?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, what stops uh Joey Chestnut from eating one more hot dog?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you think you got full?
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got full.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, 25 goldfish is a lot of goldfish.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, um they they also um don't have a three-second memory.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: They say that goldfish actually, if you if you own one, you'll know that they have a routine and they'll come to like the surface when they want to eat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like they know that you're gonna feed them at a certain time and they'll come.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, they've also been taught to do tricks like swimming through hoops.
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  SPEAKER_02: So goldfish aren't as stupid as people think.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'd never heard of the thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: What's the rumor that they have a three-second memory?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you've never heard that a goldfish has a memory of three seconds and that basically it forgets everything.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's kind of like only remembering what's right in front of it.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_03: No, I never heard that.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, it's not true.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: They have better memory.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: So now, of course, uh a group of goldfish is called a school.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're also called a shoal.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: Have you heard that one?
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's not the same thing as a school.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: And then language.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's just it's just another, it's it's usually applied to saltwater fish, you know, like any group of fish can be a school of fish.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, shoal of fish is more like saltwater fish.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but it's correct to call a group of goldfish the shoal.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: But there's also a more poetic name.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, have you ever heard of like a parliament of owls or a muster of peak?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, a murder of flamingos.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: We we did this on another episode, remember?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know what it's called with goldfish?
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  SPEAKER_02: A troubling of goldfish.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I like that.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: The troubling of goldfish.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you know, I mean, the reasons you might swallow them, impress your friends.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you like those little goldfish crackers, you know, those ones that are popular, uh, it's kind of cheese flavored.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, maybe it feels good going down.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you're really hungry.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm surprised you're coming down on the anti swallowing of goldfish.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: If if you had told me that there's somebody in my life that swallowed goldfish, you would be close to the top of that list.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm surprised that you're so anti-goldfish swallowing.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: As much as I appreciate it, I I do think it's probably a little bit cruel to the goldfish.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: And and then I do like animals.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: Those intestinal worms, you know, that really kind of has a turn off.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's yeah, that's uh deal breaker.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: So uh pretty much, you know, the tr the trend started in 1939.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can certainly still find people that will swallow goldfish, and there might be videos of them.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: I I did actually in my research find a couple of people who were um sent to court or you know, summoned or ticketed for swallowing goldfish for being cruel to animals.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: But um really I think that's the people that um swallow them incessantly and post it online.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's that was their mistake.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: And and I don't know, I mean, aren't there some like how do you how do you square that with like eating lobster?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: Where we literally Well you're not eating the lobster, you're not eating, I mean you're boiling the lobster alive, which is pretty, I guess, pretty bad.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how if lobsters, you know how they say like frogs, if you heat them up slowly enough, they don't feel it.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know how it is with lobsters, but um, but I mean you're swallowing the goldfish alive.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_03: It seems that's shaky ground though.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: Once you go that way, it seems like once you call that cruel, then it seems like you're opening the door for a lot of ways that we kill animals to eat them.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know, I don't know where the line should be drawn.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: But I certainly I like I said, um, I draw the line at crickets, live crickets, um, but I won't wait.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: You do that or don't do that?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: I've done that.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's been a while.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's where you draw the line.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: So the line is on the other side of that.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's it's crickets are the most um the the um only live animal I will actually swallow.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: Good to know.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: And and then finally, here's the last reason is that goldfish watching has been proven to decrease anxiety and blood pressure.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: So instead of swallowing your goldfish, just get in an ice tank and maybe it'll live to be 49 years old.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if you could have uh if you could have uh combined the goldfish watching with uh the goldfish eating, swallowing, with the uh X-ray shoe fitter.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: You could watch it go down your gullet, and you can watch them swim in your belly.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then you could also verify how many there were.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I would guess it would still be popular.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: Both would start so was that a thing in the fifth in the 30s, 40s, and 50s?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like I feel like they did that on happy days.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it was less of a thing then, uh, but but definitely kind of stopped in the 60s.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: Started started in the late 30s and stopped in the 60s.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think by the 60s, you know, the frivolous stuff like that, like flagpole sitting was was yeah, goldfish swallowing was done.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I think much like a lot of our dead ends, they aren't just things that used to be, they're things that never will be again, usually.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: The things that we talk about are things that happened and they're dead for a reason.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's a dead end.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: It is a dead they're not coming back, right?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: And and as I said, the book what the book uh that that was uh popped up was um uh I died swallowing a goldfish and other life lessons from the morgue.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: So uh, you know, don't don't die from swallow.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: There's better ways to go than that.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Slip and smooth down my throat, bobby glides like a no cold and quick they flow.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: But there's more to this coat, feeling good as it's like tiny fins just glide, caught up in the rice, but there's danger inside, all this goes I sing, feels good like a swing, but don't touch that ring, that's a fragile thing.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: Want to let it see choking and fee, can't feel that being breathing the dream.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Feels like a gentle breeze, just be aware of east, all the fee Hold them close to your heart, don't tell the heart, as the delicate art, the love from the start.