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- 0:51This is HBr News number four h six Nashville Convenants school shooting update, Are
- 0:57Women more Depressed than Men? Where we discussed the news of the week and
- 1:00give it the badger treatment. Hello, everybody, Welcome on Honey Badge Radio.
- 1:08My name is Brian. I am joined by as always, my austere
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- 1:15Today on the HPR News show, we're gonna be discussing more hose Man of
- 1:21the Week or host sad of the week because we're talking about depression. We're
- 1:26gonna be talking about the new sort of like the most recent news regarding the
- 1:32trans Nashville shooter. Some updates regarding the cash app founder Bob Lee who was
- 1:38murdered. We covered that a couple of weeks ago. Depression rates apparently are
- 1:44spiking amongst women and more so, please stick around because it's gonna be a
- 1:49good time. If we have time. I have a bonus story that I
- 1:53learned about. It's not anything big, but if we if we have time,
- 1:57and the and the sausages and law isn't too long, I'll mention it
- 2:01at the very end. So hopefully we'll get to that point. So anyways,
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- 2:37called the gamer dot com, which essentially asked the question, what does it
- 2:43even mean for GTA to go woke? So you real brief You guys might
- 2:49know rock Star and they have a very successful franchise of video games called Grand
- 2:53Theft Auto, and they're working on the sixth installment, and we don't know
- 2:59much about it. At least I don't know much about it except that the
- 3:00protagonist is a woman this time, which has not been done in previous GTA
- 3:07games. Not entirely true, right if you count me online? No,
- 3:12But I mean, unless there's something else I don't know about. They're there
- 3:15are two intact are there are two protagonists in the new game you switch off.
- 3:17They're like a Bonnie and Clyde duel woman. Okay, well, okay,
- 3:23that that makes sense. But so they're one of the protagonists is female
- 3:29and like a spicy Latina character. And I guess, and again I don't
- 3:31know much about GTA six, um, but I guess people are are complaining
- 3:38or something right that it might be going the way of Saints Row and uh,
- 3:42well, we'll see what the gamer dot com has to say about it.
- 3:45They seem to be generally um against people having opinions on these on whatever's
- 3:52happening with GTA. But I would actually make the argument, and we can
- 3:57do this in the after show when we talk about this story that Rockstar has
- 4:01been like into some degree kind of woke from the beginning since all of their
- 4:06games are satirizing America. And I think that um Red Dead Redemption two is
- 4:14especially so in that way. But it depends on I guess, you know,
- 4:18how you would define it. Not that that bothers me. I frankly
- 4:21don't care. You know, UM, I have my own other issues with
- 4:26the GTA franchise that are that that it's just kind of repetitive and hasn't really,
- 4:31in my opinion, grown that much over over time. So on Brian,
- 4:35wasn't the seventh the rerelease of GTA five the universally agreed to be the
- 4:41best. See I mean I never played five, Like maybe this is unfair,
- 4:46but the only GTA game I got into that I bought was four,
- 4:50and I know a lot of people say it was like the most very polarizing.
- 4:56It was because it wasn't as like over the top as San Andreas or
- 5:00Vice City or even the you know three, but and I did you know?
- 5:03Four was fine? But again like um uh, just unremarkable unless you
- 5:10like bowling with Roman a lot. You know, I'm going to the or
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- 7:36let's get into today's stories and we're gonna start with the Nashville shooting. So
- 7:43I think, Mike J you did that one right. I indeedly dink yes
- 7:46you did. So lawyers are representing the families of children attending Nashville's Covenant School
- 7:58want to block the lease of the manifesto of the shooter who attacked them last
- 8:03March. The attorney Eric Osborne argues that quote writings like this tend to inspire
- 8:11additional school shootings. Joining the parents are representatives for the Covenant School and church
- 8:20who also wish to block the release of the manifesto, claiming it could further
- 8:24endanger the students and faculty. On the other side of the case, attorney
- 8:31Rob Harvey, who is representing a local media outlet, calls the blocking of
- 8:35the manifesto unprecedented, stating what happened that day, it's a tragedy, but
- 8:41it doesn't mean that everyone at the school is a victim. Quote to expand
- 8:48on that a little more. What he's trying to say is the parents of
- 8:52the children who were there aren't, as set, aren't necessarily victims, and
- 8:56as again, according to the law, weren't victims and therefore don't have any
- 9:03real grounds to try to attempt to block this. Well, it sort of
- 9:07depends on what the manifesto says and who the murderer was attempting to victimize on
- 9:13a collective basis, But I guess we'll never know. Another attorney on the
- 9:18same side, Doug Pierce, who is representing the National Police Association, agrees
- 9:26with Harvey and states that the parents need to know what is in the manifesto
- 9:31if they wish to block it. Court Judge Latia Miles will be given her
- 9:37decision by Wednesday, so that's tomorrow on whether she believes the parents in Church's
- 9:43motion to intervene can go forward. I know I'm probably among the last people
- 9:48to point this out in the last couple of months of news cycles, but
- 9:54yeah, as and when there is the slightest hint of a mass murderer having
- 10:00any recorded inclinations, even fabricated inclinations towards being a white supremacist or an in
- 10:07cell or anything vaguely right wing, this information somehow makes its way past the
- 10:13courts, past any of the wishes or preferences of the families of the victims,
- 10:18and it's plastered across the mainstream media before the bodies are even cold,
- 10:24especially the very same mainstream media outlets who would ostensibly claim that the last thing
- 10:28in the world they want to do is encourage right wing violence, but by
- 10:33the logic outlined there, it's exactly what they do. It's especially given that
- 10:39the world is already as overrun with white supremacists in cells as they say it
- 10:45is, but it obviously isn't. They're lying, and they know they're lying
- 10:48about that, but they need to take every hand rubbing, mouthwatering opportunity they
- 10:54can to demonize everything to the right of Stalin because that's the only way to
- 11:01normalize where they are. I eat somewhere so far to the left of style
- 11:05and that it's off the fucking chart. So this is bullshit. It's not
- 11:09about avoiding copycat killers or avoiding any potential in endangering of the students or faculty.
- 11:16What they don't want to endanger is the ideology in question, the activist
- 11:24movement that drove this person to these murders, as outlined in their manifesto,
- 11:28as we can pretty much take us red at this point. So by burying
- 11:33this manifesto, the only people they're protecting are the copycat killers themselves, who
- 11:39most definitely do exist because they know, of course, they know as much
- 11:45as everyone else knows. If the motives of the murderer in question were pro
- 11:50white or pro male, or pro Christian or prosist gendered, we would all
- 11:56have heard about them by now. We've heard about them eight weeks cope.
- 12:01So not only are they protecting the copycat killers, they are actively encouraging them
- 12:07in exactly the way they claim not to be so. Any other broken brainwash
- 12:13suicidal cultists who fancy contributing to a susgendered genocide can go ahead and do so
- 12:20while committing suicide by cop just to kill two birds with one stone, along
- 12:26with several children, and they can put the crippling fear of God into everyone
- 12:33who believes in him, while their precious woke community will never be blamed for
- 12:39it. As a matter of fact, they will only be protected and celebrated
- 12:43for it, as they were in Tennessee within a few days, even though
- 12:46everyone knows it is the fault of this woke community for want of a much
- 12:52better word, So every time it gets worse, the response is to make
- 12:58it even worse. It's not just accelerationism, it's it's accelerated accelerationism exponentialism,
- 13:07Like at what fucking speed? If we actually want to discourage violence, the
- 13:15message should be accelerationism doesn't work. Yeah, but the but the message we're
- 13:20getting from the woke media and the icophobic legal system is leftist. Accelerationism absolutely
- 13:28does work because we will do everything in our power to make it work.
- 13:35And I don't know how much long we they can get away with it,
- 13:37possibly forever. It depends until everyone's dead. It's a murder suicide cult that
- 13:43won't stop until everyone is in a threaded pile of bodies on the floor with
- 13:48a belly full of poison. Kool aid. Save yourselves, folks, get
- 13:52some guns, get some chickens, and get off the grid. I'll see
- 13:56you in Hell Heaven's Gate, whichever comes first. It really depends I guess
- 14:01on UM how the how the the families approached this, and how the UM
- 14:07defense in this case if there is a if there's a legal battle, UM,
- 14:15I guess there would have to be some media outlet that wants the the
- 14:20manifesto going up against those parents. If they're just seeking to block this and
- 14:26the only entity that would be defending it is the local department or the local
- 14:33government, there may not even be a fight. So then in that case,
- 14:37then yeah, they'll they'll block it from UM being released because they'll they'll
- 14:41collaborate unless they want something about the school to be released, and I kind
- 14:48of suspect that's part of the problem. There's probably something you know, that
- 14:54has gone on at that school either uh, some some degree of dysfunction,
- 15:01Like there's been allegations of the school failing to deal with some problems that the
- 15:09student had. Um, I've seen a couple of different allegations of bullying.
- 15:13I've seen a few different allegations of sexual misconduct, and so there's there's that
- 15:20they may be trying to protect the school against public allegations of sexual misconduct.
- 15:26But in the meantime, if there are media outlets that are trying to get
- 15:33this manifesto and there is actually a legal battle, they're going to have to
- 15:37prove that it's not a First Amendment violation to keep you know, the media
- 15:43from having that information and disseminating that information. UM, that it's it's not
- 15:50an attack on the press. That's that seems like something that would be kind
- 15:56of hinky. They would have to they have to prove that they were not
- 16:00denying the press information that is in the public interest, and they'd have to
- 16:04prove that it's not in the public interest to know why this attack happened.
- 16:08And I don't. I don't think anybody can prove that that it's not in
- 16:12the public interest. So that's going to be a difficult one. The other
- 16:15thing is how far it goes, you know, like if there is a
- 16:18legal battle and not just rubber stamping, and whoever wants to publish that manifesto
- 16:27or report on the manifesto is willing to they can take it because they can
- 16:34sue as a First Amendment freedom of the press issue, they could take that
- 16:41all the way to Supreme Court. So we may see a result on this
- 16:44very quickly, or we may see this may take a couple of years to
- 16:48play out, and the ruling may may determine whether or not the government has
- 16:57allowed local or federal to withhold information about the causes behind a major event that
- 17:07you know, might be in the public interest to know and and withhold that
- 17:12from the media. Um. So that's this could be a big story.
- 17:17This could be something where it's we're hearing about it like it's a legal battle,
- 17:22but actually it's already said and done. Possibly I was thinking that,
- 17:29like from what I heard from some accounts is that their their their concern is
- 17:37for you know, personal information um related to the families and you know of
- 17:42the of the victims because some of the victims were miners. And I was
- 17:48thinking, well, I mean, and they could block just released react personal
- 17:53information. It can redact. Yeah, they could. But at the same
- 17:56time, that's from saying like the it's it's not the family that are against
- 18:00it, it's the lawyers, so um that And I don't like their Their
- 18:04claim is that if they put it out there, it's going to inspire more
- 18:07school shootings. And I think that's not that's not a an issue that should
- 18:15be used to silence any kind of media. Like if if somebody's behaving behaving
- 18:22badly, somebody else behaving badly is a reason to take away your rights,
- 18:26well we could just say goodbye to all of our rights. Like there's people
- 18:30are going to behave badly all the time. No, I get it,
- 18:33I get it. I guess what I'm saying is is that, like I
- 18:37don't know that what they're trying to do is cover their ass from some kind
- 18:42of like malfeasance or misbehavior. I think this is about, uh, you
- 18:48know, preventing this happening in the future. But but but here's the thing.
- 18:53Doesn't it suggest just by the desire to block the release that there is
- 19:00something damning in it that like sort of like um that it sort of like
- 19:08confirms or at least like makes it look like this shooting was not random.
- 19:14It wasn't just some emotional outburst. It was, you know, premeditated.
- 19:18It was directed at a specific group of people for a specific reason, and
- 19:22likely because they're Christians, like but likely that's what it is, and that's
- 19:27what I'm guessing one of the reasons for this. And I don't know if
- 19:30this has been Like I read this article that was it was like a piece
- 19:37that was written by the husband of one of the victims, one of the
- 19:40women that was killed in the shooting, and he said that, So there's
- 19:45the school, and connected to the school is a cathedral, and supposedly the
- 19:49shooter shot out it's seven times this stain glass window that had Adam from Adam
- 19:57and Eve on it. So she shoots, she blew out a stained glass
- 20:03window that pictures the first man and that was the thing that got my attention
- 20:07before she went in to shoot at the students. So there is something symbolic
- 20:14that appears to have happened. Again, I can't confirm it because maybe the
- 20:17manifesto would tell us more. But I don't think that you would do that,
- 20:22like as an accident, especially the same window seven times according to husband
- 20:27of the woman who was killed. You know, I would I want to
- 20:30know. I want to know more about the student's record at the school herself,
- 20:37because she was a student. She she obviously was an adult at the
- 20:41time of the shooting, but she had been a student at that school.
- 20:45Yeah years ago though, like she was like eighty or something. Yeah,
- 20:49I think that would be relevant. You know, maybe if they don't release
- 20:55her manifesto, maybe the media should start digging into, you know, what
- 21:02was what what was her experience as a student at that school, like,
- 21:07because that's something that they should they should be wondering about. Like if I
- 21:11was a reporter covering this story, if I was a local reporter covering this
- 21:15story, I would be asking questions about that, especially after the community was
- 21:22publishing allegations, you know, the community. Um, I'll say the rainbow
- 21:30cultum as opposed to the LGBT community, because they're not the same. But
- 21:36the Rainbow calls posting allegations, and I think if a reporter is honestly covering
- 21:44this story. They would have to investigate those allegations. You'd want to be
- 21:48able to report whether that was absolute bullshit or whether there was something to that.
- 21:55And you know, like with students, we know, for instance,
- 22:00that it can really fuck up a boy if a teacher does something like that.
- 22:06Um, so you know, it's reasonable to assume it would also fuck
- 22:11up a girl. And with the current political situation and the politics the politicization
- 22:19of trans issues and gender identity issues and stuff, it's very possible that you
- 22:30know, some somebody did fuck up this girl as a kid, and um,
- 22:36that is why she ended up like this. Yeah, so I like
- 22:41it's it's I don't want to put all the eggs in the idea that that
- 22:45the Manifesto is gonna be specifically condemning of one group of people. Um,
- 22:51not that I haven't got my suspicions, I do. You know, it's
- 22:55quite likely that it is. But there may be more going on to this
- 23:02than just one thing, and there may be more being protected than just one
- 23:11thing. Maybe, And it's it's worth it's worth going back to first principles.
- 23:19To some degree, they're kind of right in principle. This is what
- 23:23people have been warning us about ever since Columbine, ever since before Columbine,
- 23:29Like whenever a mass shooting or any sort of massively heinous crime like this happens,
- 23:36the best advice you can give the media is don't make these people famous
- 23:41because then you because because then you're showing everyone else Here is a perfect avenue
- 23:47to become famous even after death. The people. You know, a lot
- 23:52of people really really like the idea of being famous even after the death.
- 23:56That's why those massive pyramids exist and and so yeah, that's this is a
- 24:00generally good principle. But people on holding to it. Yeah, well,
- 24:07and I mean not everybody who's who wants to be famous goes out and shoots
- 24:11up a school. You have to have other factors in place too. This
- 24:15is not the route to becoming famous. It is a disturbed person's consideration of
- 24:22a route to become famous. Like they they they're going to assume they'll become
- 24:26famous this way, and they don't mind dying for it, and it might
- 24:29not even beat the goal most of the time. You know. Um So
- 24:33like I don't. I don't believe in the idea of just um withholding information
- 24:38to avoid copycats because I think it protects um the people who really should have
- 24:48seen something like this coming or really should have done better for that kid before
- 24:55before they grew up to do something like this against criticism for failing to properly
- 25:03mentor the kid. And in this day and age, it's it's pretty difficult
- 25:07to keep that cat in the bag. Now, in the age of social
- 25:11media, where even you know, the closest friends of of whoever the killer
- 25:17was, know who that person was. They have social media, all their
- 25:21friends had social media, all their enemies had social media. And there were
- 25:25some conversations posted online shortly afterwards. I'm not sure how reliable they were,
- 25:33but she posts. He posted something on the lines of I'm going to die
- 25:37tonight. I'm probably going to be on the news tomorrow again. I don't
- 25:40know if it was real, but you know, whoever they, whoever they
- 25:44are, they certainly must have had a social media. It would be unusual
- 25:48if they didn't, because almost everyone has social media these days, and even
- 25:55without social media, like you look at um the the histories of school shooters
- 26:02and mass shooters, a lot of times you can look back at their interactions
- 26:07with people, their um, their lack of socialization. You know, things
- 26:15like that, where they had disturbing behaviors before they got to the point of
- 26:21mass violence. Yeah, so like some somewhere along line, somebody failed to
- 26:27identify that, hey, this this person is demonstrating tendencies toward violence. They're
- 26:33demonstrating tendencies toward maybe inappropriate anger or something like that, and didn't do anything
- 26:40about it. And and that's a big problem in schools to begin with,
- 26:42Like they they kind of shuffle kids off to you know, pass it on
- 26:51to another teacher, passed them on to the next class, put them in
- 26:56in detention, expel them, but they don't they don't do anything about the
- 27:02behavior. And when it comes to like a demonstration of a mental health condition
- 27:08or demonstration of a way of thinking and a way of engaging with other people
- 27:15that implies a tendency to word violence, like they don't. There doesn't seem
- 27:21to be a sufficient response to that. And I think parents a lot of
- 27:27times don't want to believe there's anything wrong with their kid, so they don't
- 27:32get meant, they don't get the mental health help they need. And like,
- 27:34we don't know exactly what happened in this case, but like I said,
- 27:38I think there's probably a lot more nuance to this than just parents not
- 27:42wanting the manifesto released because you know, Rainbow cult. I think there's I
- 27:49think there's probably some people who failed this person when she was a kid that
- 27:56don't want it to come out that they failed to do what the adults in
- 28:00her life should have done for her. I go ahead, Mike, I've
- 28:07got some interesting thoughts here. Um, the most charitable take I have on
- 28:15the on them trying to get the whole thing redacted. Maybe it's a big
- 28:18ask and they'll settle for Okay, we don't want the entire thing block.
- 28:26We just want to be able to, you know, apply some zebra pain,
- 28:30if you know what I mean, and remove some things so that that
- 28:33that that's what they're gonna settle for. But that's what they wanted in the
- 28:37beginning, possibly now bumping it out a little bit to the macro. I
- 28:41still find it very funny that we still don't have access to this manifesto and
- 28:47it keeps bouncing between I guess, depending on what official you're talking to,
- 28:51either this is just the ramblings of a mad person or possibly the most dangerous
- 28:57document we we've seen since uh since mind camp, which I guess is also
- 29:03technically the ramblings of a mad person, depending on who you ask. Yeah,
- 29:10I mean, like the Mexican Nazis manifesto came out right away, right,
- 29:15let's see that that. That's the other thing I wanted to like kind
- 29:17of circle back to a point that Mike made earlier, which was, yeah,
- 29:21when it's when it's in one direction. We seem to have all of
- 29:23the information overnight. Yeah, you know, we we have. We know
- 29:30exactly their ideology. We we've tracked down every social media post they made to
- 29:34this very obscure Russian blog with zero views. But on these ones, you
- 29:42know, it's just I don't I don't know, it's all yeah, who
- 29:45knows? Uh. And and if in case you haven't heard, apparently we're
- 29:48also getting a bunch of information. I don't know if you guys heard about
- 29:52this last night. Uh, they're saying that someone rented a U haul and
- 29:57crashed it into the White House skates yeah, the Indians, Yeah, yeah,
- 30:03yeah, and oh he had a he had a he had a Nazi
- 30:06flag in there too. Because you know, when I like to go commit
- 30:08my hate crimes, you know, I make sure to carry all of my
- 30:11hate crime paraphernalia with me, just so the arresting officers know exactly what I
- 30:15was doing and why. And yeah, fucking si Varshath Kandula, I promise
- 30:22I'm not casting a spell. That was the guy's name, very white supremacists,
- 30:26very airying sounding name. Yeah, and I'm sure we're going to have
- 30:30all of the information by by by twenty four hours from now, I'm this
- 30:36guy, But we're still not going to have any idea what was in that
- 30:40manifesto. Yeah, we're still not going to have any fucking motivation for the
- 30:44Vegas shooter. Yep, we still don't. And that's the thing, Like,
- 30:48look, I get it like people are worried about copycats. I'm personally
- 30:53not. But what I am annoyed by is this selective approach to what we
- 30:59release him, what we don't um. I don't think that there's anything in
- 31:03that person's manifesto for the for this Tennessee shooting that could possibly justify what she
- 31:11did. There's there's nothing in there, so we may as well know what,
- 31:18you know, like what her reasoning was. I mean, I don't
- 31:21care if she was bullied in school ten years ago or whatever it was or
- 31:25five years ago, like that doesn't justify this. So um, clearly she
- 31:30had problems probably before school, Like I would you know, I think that
- 31:36journalists should look into what her home life was like if they could. Maybe
- 31:40it's in the manifesto, maybe, you know, like who knows so well,
- 31:45not every detail counts as a justification either. Yeah, you talk about
- 31:49the reasons why something happened. It's this is one of the things that pisses
- 31:55me off about feminist You talk about how crime happens, and like, one
- 32:00of the things that we've had to talk about is with rape perpetration. For
- 32:05instance, the UM data shows that there is a high rate of victimization as
- 32:13kids in the histories of perpetrators of sexual misconduct, sexual assault, UM,
- 32:21sexual imposition and uh, you know, sexual harassment, stalking, stuff like
- 32:24that. There's a there's a high rate of having been victims as as kids,
- 32:30and there's a high rate of female perpetration in that history against those kids.
- 32:38So feminists immediately get all up in arms and are like, here,
- 32:43you're blaming women for for getting rape. No, nobody said the victim was
- 32:47the perpetrator of that. What we're saying is Obviously, when this happens to
- 32:54a kid, you have to take into consideration that there's been some psychological damage
- 33:00that needs to be treated, and one of the many ways it can go
- 33:07is for the kid to stop recognizing other people's boundaries. You know, you
- 33:12also have people that become poly victims, and there's a there's a tendency among
- 33:21childhood victims that that don't become perpetrators and don't necessarily get the best treatment after
- 33:28having been victimized to become poly victims, where they don't learn to to communicate
- 33:34and enforce their own boundaries. And so these are things that you talk about
- 33:38where you're not saying, all right, well, that means that the person
- 33:44is at fault for their own victimization. I mean like that, that doesn't
- 33:49mean that. It means that when we know something bad like that has happened
- 33:52to a child, that as adults, if we want to prevent either of
- 33:59those two tear outcomes from happening, our best chance at doing that is to
- 34:05take every major we can to help the child rebuild what the perpetrator tore down
- 34:12in the process of grooming or physically assaulting. And that's tough. It's tough
- 34:19to have those conversations. And it's the same thing with this shooter. If
- 34:23you have somebody that was bullied, or if you have somebody that was sexually
- 34:30exploited by an educator or an administrator or somebody else in authority when when she
- 34:36was a student, if either of those allegations were true, and we don't
- 34:40know if they were or not, you know, like if that's true and
- 34:45adults knew about it and there were complaints and there must have been because otherwise,
- 34:50like the their rainbow cult would not know about it, then there should
- 34:58have been an effort to help, you know, redevelop the student's mental health
- 35:06and you know, the the tools that normally you use for socialization that get
- 35:14broken down when it doesn't go well when somebody does something awful to you,
- 35:19or when you don't connect with your fellow students and you get bullied. Like
- 35:22that's it's the responsibility of the adults in the situation to help that young person
- 35:30through that situation and help them develop the social tools that they're going to need
- 35:36to process that and move on and to uh, you know, socialize as
- 35:43an adult and not become violent or a serial victim. Yeah, there is
- 35:52another challenge here too. Um, let's say that in the manifesto she goes
- 35:58into detail of like you know, or she expresses that she was bullied,
- 36:04assaulted or even like molested and raped. There is there is a problem with
- 36:09that. First of all, we'd have to prove it, but but more
- 36:13than that, we'd also have to consider, like what do people of her
- 36:16generation consider to be violence and an assault and all that. Is it just
- 36:22discomfort? Is it people disagreeing with her? Is it being dead named?
- 36:27Is it using the wrong pronouns? Because that's the stuff that really upsets people
- 36:31of that generation that are a part of that like tumbler cult. And so
- 36:38I to them, or at least they'll say that, you know, you're
- 36:43basically killing me by not using by dead naming me or not using my preferred
- 36:46pronouns. And so this is justification for what I'm doing. And the problem
- 36:51is is that it might not be worded in a way that allows us to
- 36:53really be able to parse that, and so it might just get reported as,
- 36:59oh, yeah, she was assaulted, this school was totally like awful
- 37:01to her and that's why she did that. And now and so we have
- 37:06to like understand that they're the language of the progressive okay, is completely different
- 37:14from ours, and so like they use words that that mean that to us
- 37:19means something very extreme, and they use it every day. And this person,
- 37:23because young people are very prone to this um, could have just swallowed
- 37:28all of it. So like the manifesto might even might not even be very
- 37:31useful to understand, like what like how they got to this point. Well,
- 37:36actually that would be useful in one way. It would it would prove
- 37:42that the language of the woke and the manner of thinking of the woke,
- 37:47the victimy thinking of the woke are causes of violence and need to be restrained
- 37:53and reformed. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah you can. You
- 37:57can see that. Well that's what I'm saying. Though. The problem is
- 37:59is that how are we going to know? That's why even if she had
- 38:02said or made a bunch of claims, they would have the school is terrible.
- 38:09You know, there's two ways to describe a thing. One of one
- 38:13of them is to just use buzzwords, and the other one is to actually
- 38:17go in depth and describing what happened. Ye, and if the if I
- 38:22was really going off the deep end and was gonna you know, write a
- 38:28write a suicide note, because that's what it would be if I wouldn't go
- 38:31and hurt other people under any circumstance. But when I was suicidal, um,
- 38:37you know I was. I was not I would have been uh not
- 38:43using bud buzzwords, I was. I was describing um in in my journal
- 38:50exactly detail by detail the things that I felt had affected my mind and even
- 38:59I mean, this is the other thing, all right. When you've been
- 39:02through an experience of sexual victimization as a kid, you know that you have
- 39:09been screwed up. Um, you don't understand it, you don't have a
- 39:15way of articulating it exactly, but you know that you've been you've been stirred
- 39:22up wrong. I guess would it be a you've been scrambled like scrambled eggs
- 39:27in ways in your head and you know it and you don't have you don't
- 39:31have buzzwords for that. You have you know, I'm I'm all mixed up
- 39:37because I always thought this, and then I was convinced of this, and
- 39:42then this happened and and so on, and you can give a whole whole
- 39:45lass description of being groomed. Um. So there's I don't. I don't
- 39:51expect that. Um, it would be that difficult to to tell. Like
- 39:57if you just see a bunch of buzzwords, then you know that what she's
- 40:01she's talking about, what she's been dealing with, is having the way that
- 40:06she thinks changed by this woke ideology. But if you have a description of
- 40:10actions, physical actions that were taken against her, that's not woke ideology.
- 40:16That's abuse. Maybe, I mean, if she was a kid, yeah,
- 40:22it's it's absolutely there's no there's no justification for that either, No,
- 40:28of course not. But um, ahead, one last thing, I just
- 40:34I think it was this shooting. I'm pretty darn sure it was this shooting.
- 40:38They did kind of let one thing slip from either the planning or the
- 40:45manifesto or whatever very early, and I think that kind of gets rid of
- 40:50the Oh it was something to do with the school narrative that they made a
- 40:55point to say that that this individual really did a lot of research trying to
- 41:01find the perfect place to hit and actually canceled I don't know if it was
- 41:08an attempt or at the planning stages at that point, but actually canceled one
- 41:15of the shootings because they said oh, they saw armed security at a place,
- 41:20and so this school wasn't even a first choice. It was possibly a
- 41:25second or third because again that what they said was they wanted to go after
- 41:31a place where they knew no one was going to fight back, where they
- 41:36knew they weren't going to face any resistance, and that they can get in
- 41:38and out easily, and that they were familiar with. Well, that is
- 41:42one reason why they would target nine year olds. Exactly what we were talking
- 41:46about the other the other week, Like assigning an area of a parking lot
- 41:52for women only is like holding up a sign saying come on in rapists,
- 41:58like a sign up side can fight bank zone, a gun free zone outside
- 42:04of school, as I say, come on in my shooters. M that's
- 42:08true, and of course that would be a church, right, Um,
- 42:15thanks for that. I didn't know that. I guess we'll see tomorrow when
- 42:19the judge makes a ruling on whether or not they're going to release the manifesto
- 42:22and in what condition, like how much of it it will be redacted or
- 42:27what have you. So we have to say. I'll end this on a
- 42:30semi humorous note. If this is in the interests of the parents, I
- 42:34have to say. If you let the manifesto go public and it reveals all
- 42:37the incriminating things that the work media doesn't want the public to know about,
- 42:43then go ahead and do it and wait for the pundits at CNN and MSNBC
- 42:46like Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper to start screeching about how none of this is
- 42:52true, It's all a collusion and new Parents are all a bunch of crisis
- 42:57actors working for your own interest. Do you have any idea how much you
- 43:01can sue them for? According to precedent, and unlike Alex Jones, these
- 43:07counts and the companies they work for can actually afford several billion dollars, and
- 43:12then when George Soros shoots them another ten billion dollars, you can rinse him
- 43:15for all his money as well. You could do so much good for the
- 43:20world, especially for the very American Christians you theoretically would like to protect.
- 43:25How much money are they paying you to bury this information, because in theory
- 43:30you could get so much more for unearthing it. That is, of course,
- 43:35assuming that the Rachel Meadows and Anderson Coopers of the world face the same
- 43:39legal consequences as the Alex Joneses of the world. You may say I'm a
- 43:45dreamer, but I'm not the only one. Maybe I am. All right,
- 43:50let's move on to the next story. Let us know you guys think
- 43:52about this one in the comments, and I look forward to seeing your thoughts
- 43:55because it is an interesting story and we and we shouldn't forget it because the
- 44:00media would like us to. All right, Well, anyway, speaking of
- 44:05the media, I'm gonna mention this thing about January sixth, So the US
- 44:09Department of Justice says that they have arrested over one thousand Trump supporters. That's
- 44:15how That's how CNBC dot com is framing it. For the January six Capital
- 44:21protest. As cited by CNBC, about one third of Capital riot defendants have
- 44:25been charged with assault, resisting arrest, impeding police, or something like that
- 44:30during the attack, and about four hundred and twenty defendants have already been adjudicated
- 44:35and sentenced for their criminal activity, including like some people who are very old,
- 44:39like like old old women, for example. The Department of Justice is
- 44:45resolved to hold accountable those who committed crimes on January six, twenty twenty one,
- 44:50has not and will not wane. The DOJ updates dead FBI officials were
- 44:53concerned that footage from inside the US capital on January six, twenty twenty one,
- 44:58would show undercover agents and confidential informants, a whistleblower said in testimony revealed
- 45:05on May eighteenth. He said Boston officials questioned why they couldn't get access to
- 45:09the tranch of some eleven thousand hours of footage because they have cameras everywhere,
- 45:15because it's the goddamn capital. From inside the capital, because there may be
- 45:21maybe UC's which is undercover you know, officers or confidential human sources on those
- 45:28videos whose identity we need to protect, according to Washington based officials. And
- 45:34I bring this up because, um, well, first of all, we
- 45:37should not forget that there are people who are essentially just guilty of misdemeanors like
- 45:42trespassing that are being held for years, okay like years, and they're not
- 45:49nobody's hearing anything about it. Some of them are in solitary confinement, and
- 45:54you know it's it's not being reported, it's not being discussed, but are
- 46:00being punished disproportionately. And I you know, you guys remember as ashcow the
- 46:07journalists that she used to write about college rape cases as false allegations mostly right.
- 46:13And since those days, and she was also involved with gamer Gate.
- 46:17And since those days, Ash has you know, gotten married, had kids,
- 46:22and she's moved to North Carolina. And I spoke to her on Facebook
- 46:27because she and I are still friends, and I chat with her sometimes because
- 46:30I like to, you know, see what's going on. And she currently
- 46:32writes for the Washington Examiner, the Daily Wire, and probably some other stuff.
- 46:37And I asked her about this and she told me that, uh,
- 46:43from what she knows, like none of this stuff that's happening. She thinks
- 46:46it's absolutely absurd that people are being treated this way for trespassing and they're being
- 46:52called or labeled as enemies of the state. And so I think that,
- 46:55Um, I just wanted to mention this story briefly. I know, the
- 47:00photograph that I have here displayed UH is kind of um, well, how
- 47:06do I put it, It's intended to make UH bias your view on this.
- 47:13But remember there were FEDS there and there was only one death, and
- 47:16the person who was killed was one of the protesters that was unfortunately climbing in
- 47:22through a window that, like Apps, I think broke UH. So everybody,
- 47:28what's what you know, like the scale of this, there was only
- 47:30one death that was actually at the site. There was actual death in the
- 47:35periphery. Yeah, there was only one murder, Shelby said, Yeah,
- 47:39there was one killed by another person. Yeah, and there was only one.
- 47:45There was only one death that was caused by the event. Yeah.
- 47:51Everything that they labeled caused by the event. Um, like they claimed the
- 47:57protesters killed people that was proved. Well, yeah, right, they might
- 48:06be able to say, yeah, they might be able to say that suicides
- 48:08were caused by the event, But but I wouldn't say that's on the protesters,
- 48:14Yeah, because those were officers that might feel guilty about how they handled
- 48:17the situation. Yeah. And the cop that killed Ashley Babbitt was not charged,
- 48:22was not prosecuted. He wasn't a cop. He was he was he
- 48:24was super service Yeah whoever the guy, and he was also he was also
- 48:30a tremendous fuck up. Yeah. He had to be disciplined I think more
- 48:34than once for leaving his service weapon in a public bathroom. So anyway,
- 48:45on this, but I just wanted to, like, you know, remind
- 48:47him, I mean about this. If you want people to really take you
- 48:53seriously, if you really want to bolster your credibility with the public, that
- 49:01the most important thing for you to do is too heavy handedly, and I
- 49:07mean like absolutely heavy handedly punish anybody that doesn't believe you, because that just
- 49:14totally makes people trust you. Know they've obviously, if they're going to get
- 49:21severely punished for demonstrating a lack of trust in you and communicating them their dissatisfaction
- 49:34with your handling of their questions about your actions and how how a particular event
- 49:44was run that affects their lives, the most important way to communicate to them
- 49:51that you are an upstanding and trustworthy and believable, credible person or entity is
- 50:00to severely punish anybody that questions you in any way, shape or form,
- 50:04even just by coming to visit to ask more questions. That just is the
- 50:10best trust building exercise. You don't want to show transparency, you don't want
- 50:16to open up for more questions, you don't want to meet with people and
- 50:22discuss the situation with them, and you certainly don't want to open an investigation
- 50:28into what they're questioning. Nope, just punish the shit out of them,
- 50:31and then everybody that is affected by your decision making, will trust you from
- 50:37there on out. They will know that you're absolutely being honest and forthright with
- 50:44them. Jolly, I'm sensing a little bit of sensing, a little bit
- 50:49of sarcasm in your voice. I don't know, it's like it might be
- 50:52the case. Maybe so for everyone across the media and across the internet,
- 51:00who on the afternoon of January the sixth was watching all of this and rapidly
- 51:05calling for the mass punishment of those protesters to the full extent of the law.
- 51:09Yeah, the question is, are you satisfied? Is that enough to
- 51:15satiate your appetite for retribution those thousand or so people? Is that enough?
- 51:22Let's leave aside how that global cult of racial Marxists took siege on our cities
- 51:28all over the world, just in America, all over the world just months
- 51:32before. Let's forget for now. How to you it was just inconceivable authoritarianism
- 51:38for anyone to even suggest that those rioters should have been punished if they weren't.
- 51:45By the way, for the most part, even those who were taken
- 51:46into custody were posted bail from some mysterious source or other. As there's always
- 51:52been the case every time Antifert and BLM do this, an option that has
- 51:57not been even extended to these Trump supports. I realize that to you,
- 52:01folks, the satisfactory number of communist terrorists getting detained would be exactly zero.
- 52:07But it's worth asking, what is the satisfactory number of protesters against your kaphobic
- 52:15regime to be detained for two and a half years and counting? Is a
- 52:19thousand or so enough? Can you now put down the pitchfork and dismount from
- 52:25your high horse and say, yes, that's enough. That's just about the
- 52:30Goldilocks amount of blood for which I was lusting. I am sufficiently satisfied.
- 52:37You may now put down the machine, get and get back to arresting the
- 52:40violent criminals who are planning on doing masculis. You know, the ones already
- 52:45known to the FBI. I guess not weird, and yeah, no,
- 52:50something tells me it's still not enough. A thousand Trump supporters is nothing.
- 52:54It still leaves seventy something million fascist heathen infidels that you still want off the
- 53:01streets and punished forever for their heresy, And even that will not be enough.
- 53:07From then on, you'll focus your crossheads on anyone who attends to two
- 53:12minutes of hate and doesn't scream quite loud enough at the ghost of Emmanuel Goldstein.
- 53:16Yeah, I realize. I realized none of none of the people I'm
- 53:20talking to are even listening to me or to Honey Badger Radio. Ever,
- 53:23We're we're quite high up on your list of enemies of the state. I
- 53:28guess all I'm doing is expressing my own particular two minutes, but you'll notice
- 53:32I'm directing it at the ruling regime, and I always will til my dying
- 53:37breath, as soon or as late as that might idea. I just want
- 53:43to say one last thing about this um. And I've said this before,
- 53:47but I was almost there, like like the date of that I advised you
- 53:53against. My wife did too. She begged me not to go, and
- 53:58I was like, so I was, I'm only three hours away from DC.
- 54:01I was gonna go because all I wanted to do was interview people and
- 54:06like get their opinions on things and maybe like plug the channel right like hopefully,
- 54:10because I've noticed that the same kind of people that our Trump supporters tend
- 54:15to also be sympathetic to men's issues. So I was like, well,
- 54:19this could be an opportunity and I would put out some video and all that,
- 54:22and I didn't end up going because you know, could Ranner Cam and
- 54:27other people and Lindsay. Lindsay especially she was like, please don't go because
- 54:30if something happens to you, you know, she'd be screwed basically day.
- 54:37Because the thing is that even if this is this is what I want to
- 54:39point out, Okay, even the people who didn't go inside got arrested,
- 54:45even people who had who were who were on the periphery, who were just
- 54:47watching, or maybe they were some people that like I think Tim Poole like
- 54:52got a phone, he wasn't even there, Okay, So it doesn't like
- 54:58people will say, well, you know, some people are breaking a law
- 55:01or whatever. Yeah, misdemeanors at best, Like misdemeanors at best. And
- 55:07the people who were doing stuff like Epps, for example, who is a
- 55:12FED. Let's just face it, like, you know, he was a
- 55:14FED. He's obviously not going to serve like anything like nothing's going to happen.
- 55:19So if I had gone, there's a pretty good chance that I would
- 55:22not be hosting this show. Even now, even though it's been a couple
- 55:25of years. So yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess I
- 55:30count my blessings. But that's one of the reasons why I'm watching this story,
- 55:34because I'm looking at what almost happened to me. There's some other things
- 55:38that people should be aware of with regard to that as well, like,
- 55:42not only would you not have to have engaged in any crime to be accused
- 55:46and convicted of a crime. In this instance, they have that they've already
- 55:52been caught lying in people's cases. They've already been caught where where it's uh,
- 56:02it's been alleged that the individual did a bunch of things on their own,
- 56:07and then it comes out that actually it was a FED basically directed them.
- 56:13And this is not a one off either. There have over the last
- 56:20ten years been several news articles come out where you know, this this person
- 56:27or that person gets arrested for and convicted of planning a terrorist act, and
- 56:34then you find out, well, actually this person was along for the ride
- 56:37while the FEDS were planning them for them to commit a terrorist act and providing
- 56:43all the materials and even um, I can't remember what all mental health conditions
- 56:52the kid had, but one of them was autism. If I remember right,
- 56:55I think schizophrenia. They basically contacted the least capable person they could find
- 57:04a vetting information that was that was coming into him because he was discontented about
- 57:08some things that they didn't want him to be discontinued, you know, people
- 57:13to be discontented over, and talked him into radicalized him, you know,
- 57:19for to use their language, talked him into committing violence, provided a vehicle,
- 57:25provided the ability to go get the materials and everything. And his parents
- 57:30had to come out and say, you know, he never would have been
- 57:31capable of doing this, like much less come up with the idea. He
- 57:37physically and mentally could not have achieved any of this if it hadn't been for
- 57:44FBI informants contacting him, planning it, for him buying the equipment, for
- 57:50him transporting him, and and then then you know, the state was going
- 57:54to hold him responsible for all of that. Now, if that had involved
- 58:01drugs or prostitution and a local precinct had done all of that to somebody and
- 58:08then arrested them for drug dealing or engaging in one side or the other of
- 58:16prostitution, that would be labeled entrapment. They would they would not have a
- 58:23case against that person, and they would be disciplined for it. But since
- 58:29it's the FEDS, since it is the federal police, the FBI, that's
- 58:35that's a different story, you know. And for me, this is a
- 58:37particularly sad thing because you know, my great grandfather was a Secret Service officer,
- 58:47you know, back back when the Secret Service was about preventing the president
- 58:52from getting murdered and the CIA was about murdering the president. Um, and
- 58:58and it's it's just sad. It's sad to see, uh, what should
- 59:06have been our country's immune system against crime and against um infiltration by foreign interests
- 59:15trying to interfere with our political system become the vehicle for for protecting our our
- 59:25our country's system against vigilance, yeah, you know, against you know,
- 59:36not not necessarily vigilantism, but transparency, against vetting of the character of the
- 59:45people involved, against vetting the process itself. Like it's you know, every
- 59:53from the from the top down, every agency that we are told that we
- 1:00:00should trust to protect the citizens against having our country taken over by nut jobs
- 1:00:09and malevolent interests are protecting the nut jobs and malevolent interests at the expense of
- 1:00:17the civil rights of the people. Yep, completely upside down. You might
- 1:00:23as well not have a law enforcement force. We might as well not have,
- 1:00:29you know, a national security organization because it is doing exactly the opposite
- 1:00:36of what we are told it should be doing. We should start calling it
- 1:00:38national insecurity. Yeah, it's it's got a change, um, but we
- 1:00:44got to move on. I find myself asking if which is it with the
- 1:00:52FBI. Are they perpetrating these things? Is merely just a as banal as
- 1:01:01they need to justify their their salaries and the money they get paid by the
- 1:01:09government, and that's where it stops. Or do they do these things not
- 1:01:17only for that reason, but to start, you know, sewing certain seeds
- 1:01:23that they want to sew, like uh, yeah, you know, you
- 1:01:27got to be really scared about those A white supremacist, I mean, haven't
- 1:01:30you heard they're the biggest threat to national security? But that all these things
- 1:01:34we've perpetrated. Yeah, and white supremacists are very diverse these days. They
- 1:01:39come in all races. Well, don't you know the only rule of racism
- 1:01:44club is just be racist, the only Yeah. The other the other thing
- 1:01:51too is that And this is the thing I've I've really, really really found
- 1:01:57that a lot of people, uh don't don't know about January to sixth,
- 1:02:04is that there were two protests. The White House isn't this small place,
- 1:02:10It's very very big. Yeah it is. It is. And you had
- 1:02:20two protests. The one where they simply walked through, maybe participated in some
- 1:02:27light tomfoolery that I would go as far as to call vandalism. And then
- 1:02:32there was the one where it was considerably more raucous, where there were people
- 1:02:39injured, there were cops injured, and yeah, I think a few of
- 1:02:44those arrests are definitely justified. Although had this happened in New York, they
- 1:02:49would have called it a slow day. Yeah, I would have been fiery,
- 1:02:52but mostly peaceful. Or like the other time that BLM attacked the capital
- 1:02:55of Prior, and it was far more destructed. Something over two hundred Secret
- 1:03:01Service agents were injured and no arrests of note were made. And that really
- 1:03:07exposes what I'm trying to get at, which is this two tiered justice system.
- 1:03:13Yet we've had another great example of that recently. Without getting too much
- 1:03:17into it, I don't know if you guys recall the story we did several
- 1:03:22months ago of the teenager Trump supporter who got into an argument with a grown
- 1:03:30ass man who was drunk, who then proceeded to leave the area, get
- 1:03:37into his truck, stalk the kid, and then run him dead in the
- 1:03:43street like a dog. I remember that story. And they've just now,
- 1:03:51just now got the plea down to manslaughter. Yeah, even though there was
- 1:03:57a clear, demonsed, tradable previous interaction which makes this premeditated, even though
- 1:04:05the guy was on the phone with his mother saying Mom, can you come
- 1:04:10pick me up? I think I'm being followed by someone? Yeah? Ye,
- 1:04:15And then the guy's defense, Oh my good. The most disgraceful part.
- 1:04:18The guy's defense when he immediately came in, was like, I can't
- 1:04:23really go to jail. I've got a business to run, you know.
- 1:04:28I'm I'm, I'm I'm a really busy, important guy. Can we just
- 1:04:31get on with this? And yeah, like I said, we're just going
- 1:04:36to bump that down to manslaughter. Yeah. So it's gonna be really interesting
- 1:04:41to see if you know, I don't want to jinx anything, but if
- 1:04:46if we get someone with common sense in the White House next, it's going
- 1:04:49to be interesting to see if we're going to have a repeat of twenty seventeen,
- 1:04:59and and we're going to see how quick that gets swept under the carpet,
- 1:05:03how that gets just memory hold. Yeah, because exactly, I guess
- 1:05:10it's going to depend on who gets in. Whether it's somebody who was,
- 1:05:15you know, at least in government at that time and had to deal with
- 1:05:18that stuff, or whether you know, you get you get somebody that's basically
- 1:05:23a nube that could forget that kind of thing. I imagine. I hope
- 1:05:29at least that if he were to get elected, Trump wouldn't make the same
- 1:05:32mistake twice. And I hope because he was governor through through protests and other
- 1:05:45misconduct and has has dealt with some of the craziness from the woke left,
- 1:05:51that if ron de Sandis gets elected, that he would not forget that stuff
- 1:05:57and that he would not make the same mistakes that Trump made during that time.
- 1:06:00Like you obviously you can't. If you're gonna be big government about some
- 1:06:08things, you have to be big government about that. And if you're gonna
- 1:06:12be small government, you gotta not lock people down and and you know,
- 1:06:17suddenly become big government because there's a ninety five percent survivable deadly virus out there
- 1:06:26that you know. Yeah, like that's the that's the other thing. Like
- 1:06:29January six, I watched all of this stuff happen from the bedroom my son
- 1:06:36had just moved out of UM a year earlier, where I was quarantine because
- 1:06:44you know, I was, I was, I was dying. Um,
- 1:06:46I didn't, I didn't. I wasn't even like I was infected, but
- 1:06:50I wasn't sick, if that makes sense, Like I had a minimum quarantine
- 1:06:55because they don't. They don't make you quarantine longer if you don't have emptems,
- 1:07:00right. But but yeah, it's just if somebody started selling I Survived
- 1:07:06COVID T shirts, Um, I think most of the country would have them.
- 1:07:14And that's of course what was going on at the time, and all
- 1:07:17of the majors that were taken and all of the craziness that happened during twenty
- 1:07:21twenty. Like how soon are people going to forget that? Right? Well,
- 1:07:27hopefully they never do, but it all depends on how thoroughly they've been
- 1:07:31propagandized. A great article that came out that said, we are going to
- 1:07:36forget most of what happened during the pandemic, and that's a good thing.
- 1:07:43Yeah, of course, of course, of course it's the thing. It
- 1:07:45allows it to happen again, right, They desperately don't want people to remember.
- 1:07:48They desperately don't want to be home accountable, of course. But okay,
- 1:07:53look, I gotta move on. We got two more stories, maybe
- 1:07:58three if we can like get to it quickly enough, which I don't see
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- 1:08:26to our fundraiser or both. So with that said, we're gonna move on
- 1:08:30to the next story. Just a quick little follow up on the founder of
- 1:08:34cash app, right, Bob Lee. So, um, I just think
- 1:08:39this was kind of a weird, you know, thing that we learned because
- 1:08:43we covered this story when it broke. Originally we didn't know much about what
- 1:08:46had happened, but we have a little bit more info. So mike Ja
- 1:08:49take it away. So the tech world was rocked nearly two months ago when
- 1:08:57a software engineer, businessman, and cash app founder Bob Lee was stabbed to
- 1:09:03death in his home city of San Francisco. Many were quick to blame the
- 1:09:09city's rising rate of random violent crime, but Lee's stabbing appears to be targeted.
- 1:09:15Just sort of warning. We're going to be using the word allegedly a
- 1:09:19lot, so get prepared for that because the case is still developing. The
- 1:09:27prime suspect in the killing of Lee is a fellow a tech worker by the
- 1:09:30name of Nima Momeni of I believe the guy was Pakistani. I want to
- 1:09:36say Iran Iranian. I always makes those two up. According to CCTV footage
- 1:09:45and eye witnesses, it's likely that Momeni was the last person to who have
- 1:09:48interacted with Lee brior to his death. The two allegedly had an argument about
- 1:09:56Momeni's sister, who was reportedly in a casual relationship ship with Lee, but
- 1:10:00then he was interested to learn if Lee was doing anything inappropriate with her.
- 1:10:05I don't have any more context for what that means. I don't know whether
- 1:10:10it means drugs or sex. Or what, and apparently Lee was quite fond
- 1:10:15of both, even at the time of death. They noted that he was
- 1:10:20on a pharmacy's worth of chemicals. So they allegedly had this argument, and
- 1:10:30it's unclear how it ended, but it couldn't have been that bad because Lee
- 1:10:33entered Momeni's car and the two drove off around two am into a dark alley
- 1:10:39near the three hundred block of Main Street in the Rinkin Hill neighborhood of San
- 1:10:43Francisco. And again what happens next isn't super clear because there were no witnesses
- 1:10:48and there was no CCTV footage of exactly what was happening in there. But
- 1:10:54one moment later, Momeni appears and quickly drives off, and then the next
- 1:11:01Lee emerges from the alley, stumbling and bleeding, and by the time onlookers
- 1:11:08were able to call nine when one Lee was already unconscious by the time the
- 1:11:12cops got there, and by the time they got him to the hospital he
- 1:11:16was pronounced dead after succumbing to stab wounds to his lungs and heart. So
- 1:11:24someone got him good. Do you know? Do you know how long it
- 1:11:28was before the cops, like between when they called and when the cops showed
- 1:11:30up how much times? I do not know. I was curious because this
- 1:11:35California, they probably defunded the police. So well, there is one thing
- 1:11:41stab wounds can kill really fast. Lungs and heart. Yeah, a lot
- 1:11:46of blood vessels and essentially drowning. Yeah you if if you don't end up
- 1:11:54with um cardiac arrest. Okay, but wait, wait till you hit the
- 1:12:00US. This is brilliant. I used that word quite wrongly, But go
- 1:12:03on, so as I said, Lee would be pronounced dead after succumbing to
- 1:12:10the stab wounds to his lungs and heart. The motive for Momeni's alleged stabbing
- 1:12:15is of Lee's unclear. Aside from Lee allegedly dating Molemeny's sister, he also
- 1:12:21dated Momeni's ex girlfriend three years ago. Days later, Momenti was arrested and
- 1:12:27charged with murder for Lee's killing, Is officially entered a plea of not guilty,
- 1:12:31with his lawyer somewhat interestingly arguing the stabbing was a combination of that accident
- 1:12:41and self defense. A combination of accident and self defense. You didn't mean
- 1:12:48to stand your ground, Yeah, you tripped and fell and accidentally defended yourself
- 1:12:56in a man's lungs. And uh, I mean it sounds like the duff
- 1:13:00this thing anyone's ever said. But really it's just a concise distillation of the
- 1:13:03argument along the lines of it didn't happen, but if it did, it
- 1:13:08was a good thing, and that certainly wouldn't be the first time we've heard
- 1:13:12that particular logical fallacy. We've heard it so many times that it deserves its
- 1:13:16own Latin name non est eater se eater s boontom s for anyone who's wondering,
- 1:13:24goes, it's something out. So what are we going to do about
- 1:13:27this dire situation? Ah, well, it's time to band knives, America.
- 1:13:31That's the only way, the only way we could have possibly prevented this.
- 1:13:35Normally we would band guns first, and then band knives, and then
- 1:13:39band potato peelers and cheese graters and so on. But we can make a
- 1:13:43special case for the good old us of a you have yourselves that second Amendment,
- 1:13:47But as we know, that was only ever about muskets and what have
- 1:13:50you. After all, for a militia to be well armed doesn't mean standing
- 1:13:56around with daggers and hunting knives, does it. So we'll go ahead and
- 1:13:59come skate your knives and you can find a way of using guns to spread
- 1:14:02your peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Sounds like fun if nothing else. You
- 1:14:10know, I could see if you were in a fight with somebody and you
- 1:14:15were both high or drunk and stumbling around a single stab wound being an accident
- 1:14:24where you know, somebody falls onto the knife or you fall into the other
- 1:14:28person. But a targeted set of stab wounds being an accident is a lot
- 1:14:35harder to explain. And it's not that easy to stab someone in the heart.
- 1:14:43Your body has a natural armor in front of your heart, it's called
- 1:14:45your sternum, and you you have to pierce that on purpose or get in
- 1:14:50between the ribs, and that's that's pretty hard to predict, you know.
- 1:14:57So getting somebody in the hard and the lungs like, you almost have to
- 1:15:01have a specific effort going toward that. Yeah, Or you have to be
- 1:15:09on the ground defending yourself against somebody that's attacking you from above so that you're
- 1:15:15stabbing up into them. And again, I can see one stab wound being
- 1:15:21an accident in that circumstance if they fall on you. But it's awfully hard
- 1:15:27to argue that a second stab wound was an accident. So unless there was
- 1:15:32only one wound that went through both the lung and the heart, it's I'm
- 1:15:41a little skeptical there was they said, the corner said there were exactly three
- 1:15:45stab wounds. Say if there was three stab wounds, I have I'm really
- 1:15:49skeptical of calling that an accident. Yeah, self defense, that's is a
- 1:15:58distinct possibility, And like my my jury's gonna be out until there's more information
- 1:16:02on that. But I'm really skeptical of the accident. Yeah. Um,
- 1:16:09So this guy Bobbly, So he he was banging this dude's sister and his
- 1:16:15ex girlfriend three years earlier, right, I thought that he and and he's
- 1:16:20like, you know, he basically was in the scene, as it were.
- 1:16:25For some reason, I thought he was like part of or he would
- 1:16:27attend some kind of like sex parties. Bobbly, this guy was definitely known
- 1:16:33to be in the sort of underground clubbing, rave drugging swinging scene. Yeah,
- 1:16:43and like engage in violence because of it. Why would you wait three
- 1:16:48years? Well, I don't know, maybe, Um, maybe he wasn't
- 1:16:55bothered by it. And then like, well, here's the thing, I
- 1:16:58don't know that it has anything to do with like this guy's relations you know,
- 1:17:02it might it might be something else. Originally I thought maybe it's a
- 1:17:05business thing, because they kind of thing, But there's no corroboration. I
- 1:17:13found that they that they that they knew each other previously to this. Yeah,
- 1:17:17only link is this you know, ex girlfriend several years ago and the
- 1:17:21sister and and the sister, and like I said, it was they appeared
- 1:17:28to have some sort of conversation. Some phrase it as an argument concerning the
- 1:17:32guy's sister. And maybe maybe he had knowledge that this guy was into a
- 1:17:38bunch of weird sex stuff and drug use and partying and didn't want that for
- 1:17:43his sister. But but that's all speculation at this point. We don't.
- 1:17:46Yeah, like their motive in the relationship is just yeah, completely unknown.
- 1:17:53Well I guess what what I think that might be a takeaway is that like,
- 1:17:58you know, uh, his lifestyle seemed to me to be pretty like
- 1:18:02high risk, not not just because of the stabbing, but just just like
- 1:18:06you know, the sex parties, the drugs, the the orgies, the
- 1:18:11dating, whoever, like, and I thought, maybe I'm wrong, but
- 1:18:14I thought he had children or something. But the the the guy that was
- 1:18:18stabbed Bobbly had children with his ex wife. I believe they separated at least
- 1:18:25a year ago. And I forget who got custody. I think she did.
- 1:18:30Yeah, and they were married when he was when he was dating.
- 1:18:33Um, it's unknown. It's unknown. Yeah, we don't know. But
- 1:18:41I mean, like, if it was just a year versus three years,
- 1:18:45you know, unless his marriage was really short lived, which is a possibility
- 1:18:50that happens. Um, but geez, I guess one takeaway from this is,
- 1:18:59uh, you know, the issue of proxy violence is pretty serious.
- 1:19:02And if this was a conflict over the sister or the X or both,
- 1:19:11and it wasn't self defense and it wasn't an accident, it wouldn't have happened
- 1:19:17without that conflict, right, And if it, if it was self defense,
- 1:19:23then you have the question of did a brother, can you know,
- 1:19:28confront his sister's X over something inappropriate, something you know, awful or whatever.
- 1:19:38And the X was such a messed up guy that he attacked instead of
- 1:19:43just ending the conversation and walking away, and and fought so hard that the
- 1:19:48brother felt obligated or so scared that he had to defend himself and with deadly
- 1:19:58force. M In which case, what was she doing with that kind of
- 1:20:02guy to begin with? You know, um, when when? And it's
- 1:20:06it's difficult to really speculate on this because we don't know enough details. But
- 1:20:13if a situation, the situation was something like that, you know, it
- 1:20:16goes right back to if women are going to expect and demand proxy violence from
- 1:20:24men, and women do that as in mass like every time somebody, oh
- 1:20:30where were all the men when some woman has been in distress? Right?
- 1:20:33Um, If they're going to do that, then it's on women to be
- 1:20:39very careful stewards of of that proxy violence and to not put themselves in situations
- 1:20:45where they're borrowing trouble on his time. And you know, frankly, I
- 1:20:53don't think men owe women that proxy violence. I think that is a form
- 1:20:59of slavery. Um. I don't think I could have made it any clearer
- 1:21:03than I did in the video I made in response to that country song that
- 1:21:08I hate so much. Um, But this is just uh, you know,
- 1:21:15if this is what it looks like just from the scant information that we
- 1:21:19have um, if it's what it looks like it could be, it didn't,
- 1:21:26you couldn't take a lesson from it. Don't. Yeah, you know,
- 1:21:30don't feel obligated. You don't feel obligated to confront, especially like from
- 1:21:35a three year old breakup. I'm sorry, but if you guys have been
- 1:21:40separated for three years, you know, don't go at ladies. Don't go
- 1:21:45asking a guy to go track down that asshole for you. If there's a
- 1:21:48problem three years later because you're being stalked, go to the police, not
- 1:21:53your brother or your best buddy or any of that shit, because you're gonna
- 1:21:58get somebody killed in somebody jail, right and if and the cops are paid
- 1:22:03to be your proxy violence. But if there's not a problem, then leave
- 1:22:09him the fuck alone and move on because you're going to get somebody killed and
- 1:22:13somebody jailed. Like I have some common sense, and guys, don't put
- 1:22:17up with that shit. It's not your job. You don't have to do
- 1:22:20that. No, of course not. So we're gonna move on. Thing.
- 1:22:26One thing I'd like to mention real quick. You know, I just
- 1:22:29want to move away from Bob Lee, the founder of cash app. For
- 1:22:32one moment, and I want to talk about something completely random. The fed
- 1:22:36now service is going to be launching next month, and that's going to be
- 1:22:42instant payments through the Federal Reserve from person to person. Uh. And that's
- 1:22:46that's that's gonna be something that's going to be happening soon. And it's great
- 1:22:50that, like, you know, maybe one of their biggest competitors is not
- 1:22:55doing so hot because they just want Many people say that this is going to
- 1:23:00be a building block towards the central baked digital currency. Yay, but you
- 1:23:03know that's just completely ram I'm sorry I brought it up. I don't want
- 1:23:08to distract anybody from it. Let's let's get back to it. Brian.
- 1:23:11Sorry, very interesting news. Yeah, it is all right. We gotta
- 1:23:15move on. Let us know what you guys think about this in the comments.
- 1:23:17We're gonna move on to the last story. There could be one more,
- 1:23:21depending on you know, how we do. But we're gonna get into
- 1:23:25the last sere. We're gonna talk about women's depression. So a new Gallop
- 1:23:30survey reveals depression rates have skyrocketed for American adults. Of course, the article
- 1:23:36frames it as especially women. Almost thirty percent of adults report being diagnosed with
- 1:23:42depression at some point in their lifetime, nearly ten percentage points higher than it
- 1:23:45was in twenty fifteen. The rates of depression are rising fastest in women.
- 1:23:50Over one third of women are now reporting being are now report of being diagnosed
- 1:23:57with depression. Depression rates are also climbing amongst black and Hispanic adults, according
- 1:24:01to Gallop, now surpassing white respondence. While clinical depression was slowly rising in
- 1:24:06the US, it seems to have jumped, notably in the aftermath of Yes,
- 1:24:11what the coup and the lockdowns? What I'm expressing, I'm expressing my
- 1:24:19supp You can't see it, Yeah, no, but I can feel it.
- 1:24:26Currently, seventeen percent of US adults report experiencing significant loneliness yesterday, projecting
- 1:24:31to an estimated forty four million people. According to Gallop, quote, women
- 1:24:36have historically reported substantially higher levels of depression than men end quote, and that
- 1:24:42COVID impacted women worse, women, women worse guys. Did you know the
- 1:24:46coup affects women more? They claim. Women were disproportionately likely to lose their
- 1:24:51jobs or to exit the workforce altogether, due in part to the pandemic driving
- 1:24:56children home from school or daycare, and that because women make up seventy eight
- 1:25:00percent of workers in healthcare, they were exposed to enhanced emotional and psychological risk.
- 1:25:06While the Gallup survey focuses on the fastest growing rates of self reported depression
- 1:25:11diagnosis, the rate of suicide is still highest in middle aged white men.
- 1:25:15In twenty twenty, men died by suicide three point eight eight times more than
- 1:25:20women, and white men accounted for sixty nine point sixty eight percent of suicide
- 1:25:27death. And I can't see it. I can't see it. Yeah,
- 1:25:30No, I don't buy this idea that women sufferpression modern men, and no
- 1:25:34one now should anyone else. The tricky thing about depressions as a term or
- 1:25:43as a concept is connected to such a term. It's similar to the tricky
- 1:25:47thing about gender dysphoria. It does exist as a clinical condition. Problem is,
- 1:25:55it's very easy to miss diagnose in others, is very easy to miss
- 1:25:59the knows in oneself. And it's very easy to simply fame or just straight
- 1:26:05up fake, you know, for attention, as an excuse for just not
- 1:26:11dealing with your ship, or just because it's the trendy fake disease to have
- 1:26:16in this day and age. A compounding problem with the term depression is it's
- 1:26:20ambiguous. It's it's it is something listed in the DSM as a medical condition
- 1:26:27brought on by, among other things, a chemical imbalance, but exactly the
- 1:26:33same term refers to an ordinary human condition a lot of other things that narcissism
- 1:26:43has similar ambiguities. Some people are pathologically narcissistic, like they can't help doing
- 1:26:50it no matter what happens. But some people can be called narcissists sort of
- 1:26:55colloquially, but all they are is self centered cunts who will snap out of
- 1:27:00it as soon as they get a harsh reality check. But depression is even
- 1:27:05more ambiguous than that. It doesn't just refer to an ordinary human condition.
- 1:27:11It refers to an ordinary human emotion, as an ordinary reaction to one's current
- 1:27:19circumstances. Getting depressed in twenty twenty, particularly in the late stages of twenty
- 1:27:27twenty, is, I put it to you, not necessarily a medical condition.
- 1:27:32It's a perfectly normal reaction to a world that's gone completely insane and has
- 1:27:40locked you in your home, locked you out of your job, locked your
- 1:27:45own small business out of reality, all for extremely spurious reasons, and then
- 1:27:51held your life hostage over a medical procedure that evidently does nothing to fix anything.
- 1:27:58If you ask me, if anything, it's neurologically abnormal not to get
- 1:28:03at least a little bit depressed over a situation like that. There's that quote
- 1:28:11that's so often worth repeating. Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self
- 1:28:18esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact simply surrounded by assholes.
- 1:28:24How can anyone have looked around themselves in the last three years and not
- 1:28:29concluded or at least considered that they are surrounded by assholes, just the least
- 1:28:38like on a global scale. Yeah, I mean at the same time,
- 1:28:41Yes, it stands to reason that anyone who was perhaps on the brink of
- 1:28:46actual clinical depression was highly likely to have been pushed over the edge by the
- 1:28:54events of the last three years, which is to say nothing of the physical
- 1:28:59health canis they've been mysteriously facing since the last two years. Obviously, those
- 1:29:04people need help, and that help needs to come from the petty tyrants who
- 1:29:11tormented them with this ruthless big brother future. I'm just saying it's quite probable
- 1:29:18that the condition most of these people are suffering is not a condition that should
- 1:29:25be diagnosed by a doctor or even a psychologist. It's a condition that anyone
- 1:29:29in their right mind would experience. No doctor should be diagnosing anyone with acute
- 1:29:35fear or chronic guilt, because these are not medical conditions that normal emotions,
- 1:29:45and you should be primarily looking to yourself for solace in such a situation.
- 1:29:53You should be looking to your friends and family and loved ones for solace in
- 1:29:57such a condition. You shouldn't. You certainly shouldn't be letting getting pop psychological
- 1:30:02advice from the very same quacks who pumped you full of experimental poison for no
- 1:30:08good reason. And yet to some degree, my recommendation is the same or
- 1:30:13similar as you know some randomer on the Internet whose user name is doctor.
- 1:30:20If you, if you found yourself racked with acute fear in twenty twenty,
- 1:30:26and you need someone else to blame, then your compensation should also come from
- 1:30:32the petty, lying tyrants who tormented you. Because they did, they tormented
- 1:30:39all of us. And if any of those lying tyrants in question ever truly
- 1:30:45realize what they've done and they find themselves experiencing chronic guilt, Well, you
- 1:30:53deserve it. Do you deserve to suffer that ordinary human emotion for the rest
- 1:30:59of your life. It's the least you can suffer, given that millions of
- 1:31:03paw counts with shite for blood are suffering, genuinely, biologically suffering for the
- 1:31:10rest of their lives because of you. And if that makes you depressed,
- 1:31:15fuck you, you deserve that too. My skepticism in regard to the difference
- 1:31:23in depression between men and women, it comes from some personal experience and healthcare
- 1:31:29and some personal experience as a as a patient, and there's a there's a
- 1:31:35phenomenon, and it's women are natural hypochondriacs. And if you aren't a natural
- 1:31:43hypochondriac as as a woman, it's okay. Your friends and female family members
- 1:31:49will just extend their hypochondria to you. Women have a tendency to pathologize everything.
- 1:31:59Everything's a mental illness, everything's a cold, everything's a injury, everything's,
- 1:32:02you know, a thousand times bigger than it really is. So I
- 1:32:06got diagnosed with depression when I was in high school, and I had situational
- 1:32:13depression, had symptoms of situational depression, but It was really more a situation
- 1:32:20that I hadn't talked about enough for anybody to treat it and anybody to help
- 1:32:27me through it. So I get diagnosed with clinical chemical imbalance based depression and
- 1:32:31drugged, and of course that that fucked me up, and they threw more
- 1:32:35drugs at me, and they never consider the possibility that maybe the patient isn't
- 1:32:44presenting symptoms accurately in mental health care. They just keep throwing more drugs at
- 1:32:51you. And the thing that women will do is, oh, okay,
- 1:32:56you give me another drug. I'll take that. You give me another drug,
- 1:32:59I'll take that. And it took getting to the point of like being
- 1:33:02the old lady that swallowed the fly of medicine for me and having a laundry
- 1:33:10list of side effects and damage from drug interactions, some of which led to
- 1:33:15permanent physical changes. Before before I was like, no, wait a minute,
- 1:33:20Like they're just they're just throwing darts at a dartboard here. I'm not
- 1:33:25actually getting medical treatment. Women will do that, right. Men will suffer
- 1:33:30in silence, Men will not trust because they see this shit happening. And
- 1:33:36why would you trust a system that does that? Yeah, why would they
- 1:33:44wust? The women, it's functional and and honestly, like at most of
- 1:33:49the dysfunction that the system is treating with women is put on. It's not
- 1:33:54that women don't have mental health conditions, it's it's that um Quite frequently like
- 1:34:01women go in there with an idea of well it's this or it's that,
- 1:34:04and and they get the diagnosis they want and boom, they're you know,
- 1:34:08they're getting drugs and and it's supposed to all be fixed, and then they
- 1:34:12get mad when it's not fixed. So there are men who are going through
- 1:34:17situational or chemical imbalance based depression that are not getting treated. This is why
- 1:34:25suicide among men is so much higher. When they do go in for treatment,
- 1:34:30they're not getting treated as men. They're they're getting treated as women,
- 1:34:36and they're not being taken seriously or they're being told that their problem has a
- 1:34:42different cause than it really has. You know, you can't you're not allowed
- 1:34:45to be depressed about being separated from your children and being left by your wife.
- 1:34:49That's that's boundary issues, that's toxic masculinity. You can't have that right.
- 1:34:56That doesn't make you know, suicidal. So I with this being self
- 1:35:02reported and everything, I think a lot of men are less likely to tell
- 1:35:06a survey that they deserve a diagnosis or have a diagnosis because they haven't reported
- 1:35:14it to a doctor, or they don't believe in it, or they don't
- 1:35:17trust the diagnosis, whereas a lot of women are are going to be like,
- 1:35:23oh, yes, I'm so stressed. I have to, you know,
- 1:35:27lose my favorite coffee shop and I had to drive an extra ten minutes
- 1:35:30to get to another one to get my my my What is a pumpkin spice
- 1:35:35double latte with with fat free coconut milk or whatever whatever you know? Oh
- 1:35:42yeah, and that's the same level of um. Women will treat that like
- 1:35:49it's the same level of pain and suffering as the guy that that that is
- 1:35:54separated from his children and has been left by his wife and their their doctor
- 1:35:59will as well report it to this survey. So I just have a lot
- 1:36:02of skepticism in regard to the actual rates of depression and everything. And I
- 1:36:09also want to say something about the healthcare thing. Notice you got to pay
- 1:36:13attention to this the wording, all right, and the women make up seventy
- 1:36:17eight percent of workers in in healthcare. Well, guys, I'm in healthcare.
- 1:36:25I got three weeks of training for my job. That's it. There's
- 1:36:29no college education, there's no degree. My certification takes three weeks of education.
- 1:36:33I have to re up my CPR training and my medpast certification annually.
- 1:36:40That's an eight hour class for each of those things. Right, that's a
- 1:36:44sixteen hours of training a year, and I qualify to do my job.
- 1:36:49All right. I'm not a doctor, right, not a nurse even,
- 1:36:54not even a licensed practical nurse. That's eighteen months of university training. Okay.
- 1:37:00My exposure was to people who were not allowed in Ohio. People with
- 1:37:05intellectual disabilities were pretty much put in lockdown. They weren't allowed to go anywhere.
- 1:37:12Their day programs were shut down, right, they weren't allowed to go
- 1:37:15to any gatherings. Rules that didn't apply to everybody else applied to them,
- 1:37:23and it was it was mandated that they would be vaccinated. Right. So
- 1:37:28that was that was actually a ruling that was made by all right, not
- 1:37:31a ruling, but um executive order from our governor's office. So there was
- 1:37:41if they're going to claim that there was any emotional and psychological risk there,
- 1:37:47because they didn't say they were exposed to infectious disease risk. Right, emotional
- 1:37:55and psychological risk. Yeah, because the overwhelming majority of women in healthcare are
- 1:38:03nurses, aids, and direct support professionals. Right, then there are licensed
- 1:38:12practical nurses and nurses. And the higher you climb on the ladder of healthcare,
- 1:38:17the more you get to where men go when they go into healthcare.
- 1:38:21When men go into healthcare, they go into the most proactive elements they can,
- 1:38:27or the most lucrative elements they can, or both. Right, Infectious
- 1:38:31disease specialists were more likely to be men. You know, men, men
- 1:38:36do the dirty jobs. Even in medical care, a gastroenterologist is almost exclusively
- 1:38:44likely to be a man. Yeah right, it's a it's a it's a
- 1:38:46shitty job. Just just saying, but yeah, that's the guy that sticks
- 1:38:56the camera up your ass if they think you might have colon cancer, Just
- 1:39:00so you know, but yeah, I like. So it's again claiming that
- 1:39:06women are more likely to be depressed, claiming that women are in a more
- 1:39:10stressful position. It's all bullshit. You watch watch the language that is being
- 1:39:15used to describe this. It's buzzwords, not specificity. And and remember that
- 1:39:20this is self reported yep. And women are more likely to be to feel
- 1:39:28comfortable complaining, and they are more likely to be taken seriously when they complain,
- 1:39:33and then they're also more likely to receive a diagnosis and treatment as a
- 1:39:38result of that. It doesn't mean women are more likely to be depressed,
- 1:39:44and the difference in suicide rate demonstrates that very clearly. Yes, Okay,
- 1:39:50does anyone else have any thoughts on this about depression? Okay, then I'm
- 1:39:56gonna go ahead and make this auto a little extra long because I do want
- 1:40:00to. I want to mention the last thing that I found. So,
- 1:40:03um, let's move on to the next story. Uh, guess who's back.
- 1:40:10I'm back again. Zoe's back. Tell a friends, So, I
- 1:40:15DW, which is a comic publisher. They used to be well, they
- 1:40:21used to print the Image comics and I think now IDW an Image and they've
- 1:40:26split off and done other things. They have hired Zoe Quinn to write a
- 1:40:30Wednesday Adams comic. Who whoa, this is gonna be bad? Zoe literally?
- 1:40:39Who oh yeah yeah? Literally who literally? Literally? Um? She
- 1:40:44is writing? So you guys might have seen it, might not. There
- 1:40:48was a couple I think there were two, but I could be wrong.
- 1:40:51Of Adam's Family like animated films that came out recently, they were like three
- 1:40:58D animated and may to look more like the original strip that they were based
- 1:41:01on. And they're right. She is writing a story about Wednesday specifically because
- 1:41:08of course. And they have a sort of a synopsis of the first issue
- 1:41:14called well It's Adams Family Body's Issue number one and I just want to give
- 1:41:20you guys the synopsis of this and this is Zoe Quinn's idea. Say so
- 1:41:27Wednesday Adams doesn't feel like she fits in anywhere, not even at home.
- 1:41:31After she discovers a beauty magazine in her uncle Fester's room that tells her all
- 1:41:35about how she should look and act. It doesn't keep her down for long,
- 1:41:40however, as she quickly realizes that rather than change herself, it would
- 1:41:44be more fun to make over her family and force them to accept the societal
- 1:41:47norms they all normally reject. Reprint the IDW one shot. This spinoff from
- 1:41:54the animated Adams Family movie features all your favorite characters, including Gomes, Mortisham,
- 1:41:59Pugsley, or the Thing or Thing not the Thing, and of course
- 1:42:02Wednesday, featuring a New MacCabe cover by Chin China Cloaks in Flores This cooks
- 1:42:09off a whole new run of comics featuring the creepy Kookie altogether spooky Adams Family.
- 1:42:13So yeah, go ahead. It's funny how they accuse us of wanting
- 1:42:16to live in the fifties. You'll recall the Adams Family was first devised.
- 1:42:21I don't know if it's the fifties or the sixties, but the original Adams
- 1:42:25Family show was devised in the fifties, back in the days when goths weren't
- 1:42:31a thing. Yeah, when there when there wasn't a clique in every high
- 1:42:35school of goths that you could easily belong to. If if if you feel
- 1:42:42like being a goth, like you can't in this day and age, say
- 1:42:45oh I'm a goth. There's there's no one I can befriend. There's there's
- 1:42:50there's no small community of like minded people who dress exactly the fucking same as
- 1:42:56me and think exactly the same as me in every high school in every community
- 1:43:00in the Western world. Yeah, like, and no, you're living in
- 1:43:08the fifties where way, where you have no one to talk to when you
- 1:43:12clearly do not not the Zoe Quinn's even a fucking goth, right, a
- 1:43:17blue head, fucking narcissist, and she she asked a considerable community of people
- 1:43:23to talk to. I mean, alre any goth's gonna complain about cultural appropriation
- 1:43:28here. No, that's that's that's not what a royal goths do. And
- 1:43:33I will I will say, if you are under thirty, maybe even hundred
- 1:43:41forty and your parents aren't goth, you aren't either. M there is no
- 1:43:48such thing as a young goth. There are young emos, but there are
- 1:43:54no young goths. You don't have the conditions to be goth. Well,
- 1:44:00none of us have sucked rome in the fifth century, but eighties goth that
- 1:44:08was a totally different thing. Have to be visibly golf as if you will,
- 1:44:12there you go. Those those conditions haven't existed. Those those conditions,
- 1:44:19the conditions under which people got labeled goths for wearing dark clothes and listening to
- 1:44:26increasingly depressing death metal and uh, you know, smoking pot and talking about
- 1:44:33how dark the world was getting by the way being right, Um, yeah,
- 1:44:43those those those conditions are gone and they're never coming back, So get
- 1:44:49over it, move on, start your own damn clique, you know,
- 1:44:55start start your own counterculture. Right. There are also no hippies, like
- 1:45:02under the age of sixty. If you're under sixty years old and you call
- 1:45:05yourself a hippie, you are full of shit. Well, I think the
- 1:45:12thing is is that Zoe's not trying to sell herself off as a god.
- 1:45:16I think that this is like what feminists always do. They take something established,
- 1:45:21they co opt it, and they turn it into something completely different,
- 1:45:26like she's wearing the skin of Wednesdays. And the thing is too that feminists
- 1:45:32are skinwalkers. Yeah, they are. And the thing is this is this
- 1:45:35is really important at least to me as a person who is interested in the
- 1:45:40arts and creativity. Nothing in that synopsis reflects Wednesday Adams or the Adams family,
- 1:45:46like have you if you have actually read the strip? So there.
- 1:45:51It originally was a comic strip, okay, that had these you know what,
- 1:45:56three four panels to tell a quick little joke and that was the end
- 1:45:59of it. So there was no plot. It did not develop, The
- 1:46:02characters didn't change, they didn't get older, nothing like that. It was
- 1:46:05supposed to be gags and that's it, right. It was based in something
- 1:46:10kind of macab but it always like walked that line of you know, like
- 1:46:15there was always implied things, but never like outright you know, uh stated
- 1:46:20things. And then the movies did they carried the same spirit, and the
- 1:46:25television show from the sixties carried the same spirit into it. And what Zoe's
- 1:46:30doing is she's taking a character Wednesday, which by the way, before Christina
- 1:46:35Ricci played her, really didn't do much like if you she was like the
- 1:46:41least important character in the family originally, but whatever, you know, Christina
- 1:46:46Ricci gave the character life. That's that's like she's a favorite basically one of
- 1:46:50minds too. But the whole thing was just gangs. We're talking about a
- 1:46:54family that lives its life backwards that essentially, compared to regular society, they
- 1:46:59don't fit in, right um, And she is claiming in this this idea
- 1:47:05is that Wednesday doesn't feel like she fits in, which again makes no sense
- 1:47:11because the whole point is that the whole family doesn't fit in. They're different
- 1:47:15from everybody else. So like that, yeah, anyone that yeah, she
- 1:47:26actually goes to a school of people who don't fit in. Like yeah,
- 1:47:31it's like somebody thought, well, if we just capitalize on the popularity of
- 1:47:38the Harry Potter stuff. We could, you know, we can take the
- 1:47:42Adams family and sort of mingle it together with the Harry Potter stuff. We
- 1:47:45could make something that everybody would like and the character was kind of cool that
- 1:47:50there were there were some things in it that were kind of cool and and
- 1:47:54everything. But it sort of went down that path of of there's a thing
- 1:48:01that's been happening for quite a while right that, you know, woke idealogues
- 1:48:09have been sort of capitalizing on like of of um fan fic writers thinking that
- 1:48:16that being decent or good at fanfic makes them real writers. It doesn't.
- 1:48:27It doesn't make you a real writer. It makes you very good at expanding
- 1:48:30on somebody else's work in a way that people might enjoy. And as long
- 1:48:36as you admit that's what you're doing, that's okay, Like there's not something
- 1:48:43wrong with that. It's you know, that's your creativity at work. But
- 1:48:48what you're doing is an original. You are expanding on someone else's work,
- 1:48:55and it's not a whole new invention, and you're not the same as somebody
- 1:49:01who created a character and setting and a storyline and built other characters around that
- 1:49:10that main character and you know and whatever had had a thing that we're going
- 1:49:15to communicate with this and so on, and didn't borrow somebody else's already created
- 1:49:21format to use to tell it. And unfortunately, because our society has kind
- 1:49:28of accepted over the last maybe twenty years or so, this idea that professional
- 1:49:35fan fiction is as good as new things, or at least as good as
- 1:49:41creativity, real creativity, we've now got a situation where we have to accept
- 1:49:48when it's bad, like when it's poorly done, absolute shit, and when
- 1:49:56politics are inserted into it and it's complete bastardization of the thing that the person
- 1:50:02would have been expanding on if they were a good fan fic writer. But
- 1:50:06they're not no expanding on anybody's anything. They're just taking the name and one
- 1:50:15popular detail about it and completely twisting it into something else that it never was
- 1:50:21and never should have been. Well that's I think that's what that's what we're
- 1:50:25seeing here, Yeah, trying to make Wednesday into a feminist icon like they
- 1:50:30they've already they've already done this with you know, there was a YouTube channel,
- 1:50:32I don't know if it still exists called adult Wednesday Atoms, and that
- 1:50:36girl that plays her in those sketches is totally a feminist because she every episode
- 1:50:43is about some kind of feminist talking point, like you know, like a
- 1:50:46sexual harassment or the way that men, you know, are entitled to women's
- 1:50:50bodies and shit like that. And I'm like, this doesn't make sense.
- 1:50:54This character is not like this like that, you know, this is she
- 1:50:58They're weird. I'm purpose there maccabre on a different level. And it's got
- 1:51:01nothing to do with rights, it's got nothing to do with politics. And
- 1:51:05so like was upset about something, Yeah, just take and put them in
- 1:51:13a girly magazine in Uncle Fester's room. Why the fuck would he have that?
- 1:51:17Like like it already assumes that even the men are bad men. That's
- 1:51:26a way of making Uncle Fester creepy. Yeah, but not in like the
- 1:51:30sort of charming fun he was. It's like that's another thing, right this
- 1:51:38And I'm going to take this back to the previous story about depression very briefly.
- 1:51:42I will bet you the people did that interview didn't seek out any in
- 1:51:45cells, just saying probably not, but they would compare Uncle Fester to in
- 1:51:50cells, of course, although he did have a he didn't have a woman
- 1:51:55in uh one at least one. Yeah. Well, and then if she
- 1:52:00was, she was she was a black widow, no less. Yeah,
- 1:52:03but I think that was actually based off of um episodes from the show where
- 1:52:09your uncle Fuster was looking for a girlfriend or a wife or something. It's
- 1:52:12been a long time since I've watched the original show. It was a little
- 1:52:15kid, remember that. Anyone want to explore Pugsley as it gets older?
- 1:52:18But what goes on with him? Because he was he was just a normal
- 1:52:23kid who I guess in those of masochism with his sister, like he was
- 1:52:31the one who received the pain. Well, she was the one who delivered
- 1:52:35the pain, I guess, I guess, and won't give a shit about
- 1:52:38Pugsley, which would make him something of a countercultural icon if anyone give a
- 1:52:43shit. Yeah, yeah, they don't really do anything with him. But
- 1:52:47but yeah, here's that. That's kind of like My point is is that,
- 1:52:50uh, you know, Quinn is going to well she is in the
- 1:52:55process of trying to co opt this character without understanding anything about it. Because
- 1:53:01really, the best thing you can do with the Adams family is tell more
- 1:53:04of these short quippy you know, stories that sort of like point at the
- 1:53:09absurdity of this family. That's what makes it funny. Like watch the old
- 1:53:14watch the Role Julia movie with Christina Ricci, and tell me if the plot
- 1:53:18even matters. I know there is one, because it's still a movie,
- 1:53:21but tell me if it even matters, Like when everything is resolved, you
- 1:53:25know, uh, like literally nothing changes because you're not supposed to care about
- 1:53:30that. You're supposed to laugh at the gags so exactly, which they do
- 1:53:33very well. One of the things that that I've noticed whenever these these people
- 1:53:41get in and they and they take an existing IP and they they they don't
- 1:53:47want they're not interested in the IP. No, they're not interested in in
- 1:53:54continuing the story unbelievable pattern. They want to talk about themselves through something,
- 1:54:00yes, and they want to take someone has a lot of popularity to do
- 1:54:02it. Yes. And then that's exactly they, as Sargon has said,
- 1:54:08they dawned the progressive skin suit of this thing that has an appeal, that
- 1:54:13has a baked in audience and goes, why don't you love this thing?
- 1:54:16It looks just like the thing you love, you know, even though it's
- 1:54:20it's merely acting is my therapy session. Yeah, that I foisting upon everyone.
- 1:54:27You ever wonder what happened to the monsters? The Monsters was obviously,
- 1:54:32I mean there was a rip off of the Adams family, let's face it,
- 1:54:35Oh the monsters. See, the problem with the Monsters was that they
- 1:54:41were a family that loved each other that just happened to be weird looking.
- 1:54:45Well, they were all weird except except they're highly deformed. The girl was
- 1:54:55the normal one. How weird is it that that hasn't taken off, because,
- 1:55:00you know, because then they'd have to go like because then they'd have
- 1:55:02to work on on the premise that the that the girl is the normal one.
- 1:55:08And feminists can't handle that because feminists want to believe that women are the
- 1:55:13exception, the most exceptional exception, the one that doesn't feel like she belongs,
- 1:55:18even in a family that doesn't belong. And that's why the Monsters never
- 1:55:23took off, even it's even especially in the age of feminism, because because
- 1:55:29feminists have to believe that women are the exception of the diamond in the rough.
- 1:55:35As you know, there was a twenty twenty two Monsters movie, right,
- 1:55:42it was a rob zombie thing. Yeah, it was one of the
- 1:55:45worst movies that Yeah it was, yeah it well it was it was Rob
- 1:55:53Zombie. Yeah. Well, the thing is what the monsters the only this
- 1:55:57is the way it has to work is and Rob Zombie is not capable of
- 1:56:00doing this because the only thing he knows how to do is dysfunction. The
- 1:56:03Munster's family was the tightest knit nuclear family, like like it was based on
- 1:56:11you know, like the most like the I'm sorry, the least the most
- 1:56:15functional or least dysfunctional family. It just so happened that they were monsters,
- 1:56:19but they loved each other. It wasn't like the Adams Is where they were
- 1:56:23you know, you got this sense that like they're always plotting to like kill
- 1:56:27each other or torture each other, and they got and they enjoyed it like
- 1:56:30they were they got into it. No, the Munsters were not like that.
- 1:56:32They were like like the Brady Bunch or some other loving family. They
- 1:56:35just happened to be monsters. So the only way you could do it is
- 1:56:41you would have to you'd have to present them as a functional family where there's
- 1:56:45no you know, there's no abuse, there's no dysfunction, there's nothing weird
- 1:56:48going on. But they also are you know, Universal Studios monsters, And
- 1:56:55I don't think that Hollywood can do that because you'd have to give us a
- 1:56:59family that loves each other, you know, um and uh that yeah,
- 1:57:02that's the only way that work. Anyway, You wouldn't be able to find
- 1:57:06anybody to replace most of those actors like Fred gwyn and the guy who played
- 1:57:12Grandpa. Um, good luck with that. Maybe de Vito, that might
- 1:57:15work possible. One of the things I think it's really sad that I think
- 1:57:20the Adams family really could make a comeback in current year. Sure could,
- 1:57:26because they're they're they're they're transgressive now, but for all the opposite reasons,
- 1:57:31Like you look at them when they came out, you know, and the
- 1:57:35nineties is gonna get this I'm gonna get this name wrong in or I'm gonna
- 1:57:39get this date wrong. In the fifties and the sixties, the people of
- 1:57:44the sixties are like, Wow, what a what a weird what a strange
- 1:57:48family they have, you know, strange pets and they all dressed in black,
- 1:57:53and they're so mccabb and the and violence and oh man, this is
- 1:57:57nuts. And then current year the same real well a similar reaction people would
- 1:58:01look and go, Wow, what a strange family, what a crazy family.
- 1:58:05They love each other there though the mother and father are still together,
- 1:58:10they have two children that that both seem to love and admire them. How
- 1:58:15crazy is that? No one does that? Yeah, you're right, that
- 1:58:17would be weird. And by the ways, props to Jenny Ortega, by
- 1:58:24the way, who played Wednesday and Wednesday. Yeah, because apparently she pushed
- 1:58:29back. She got a lot of shit for it from not just from writers,
- 1:58:34not just from writers and the people she worked with from like literal like
- 1:58:38fucking podcasters that do reviews and shows like they were basically calling her toxic because
- 1:58:43she wanted to be as true to the character as possible yea, even though
- 1:58:45they wanted to give her a lesbian love interest. And the response to that
- 1:58:49was simply, Wednesday doesn't do love interests. She doesn't do love right.
- 1:58:55This is definitely like obviously she's a professional. Um and and this is where
- 1:59:03like when you hear um a woman getting called toxic by these people, by
- 1:59:10the Wolpe mob, it's almost always for being accountable or well, in this
- 1:59:18instance, I mean that that's accountable like she is. When you are an
- 1:59:23entertainer who portrays an existing character, You are a steward of um, the
- 1:59:30the trueness of the character. Right, you can actually either warp that character
- 1:59:38in response to request or demands, or you can you can gate keep that
- 1:59:44character and say, wait a minute, no, this this, this character
- 1:59:45would never do this. And it takes a true professional to care enough about
- 1:59:53what they're doing to fight back against demands to to make those wor changes in
- 2:00:00everything. Yeah, that's why he got into and we need we need more
- 2:00:09Henry Cavils. Yeah, we need more. We need more gene ortegas,
- 2:00:13and we need more Henry Cavils. And I have to wonder how often because
- 2:00:17when they say toxic when it's a woman, and when it's a man,
- 2:00:20they treat him like he's aggressive and frightening, yeah, harassing and stuff like
- 2:00:29that. And I have to wonder how often, um, you know,
- 2:00:31like either woke's or women in general, like feminists in particular, treat a
- 2:00:38man as though he's aggressive and threatening when he's actually just being accountable. Yep.
- 2:00:47Well that I gotta share this one thing. A lot of people don't
- 2:00:54know. I learned this a couple of weeks ago, and it's it's really
- 2:00:56great. Um So. In the ninety one Adam's family movie The Ange,
- 2:01:01Jellica, Houston Rawl Juliet, Christopher Lloyd One Pugsley is played by an actor
- 2:01:08named Jimmy Workman. I don't expect anyone to know that name. But he's
- 2:01:14a guy. You know, even though you might not know him. If
- 2:01:17you've ever seen the stereotypical Podra Neckbeard Pitcher, oh no, that same guy.
- 2:01:26Oh shit, dude, I put it in live show. I put
- 2:01:29it in. I gotta share this and it's funny. He didn't even know
- 2:01:34he was a meme and then he learned from he learned of it, and
- 2:01:39he's like, this is great. I love this. I love that I'm
- 2:01:42famous again. And apparently the um the story of this comes from. Uh.
- 2:01:48He was doing some headshots because he was a child actor initially, and
- 2:01:54you know, he was an actor later in life as well, and he
- 2:01:57was taking some heads He was doing some head shots because of course, you
- 2:01:59know, you're you're no bone in Hollywood unless you have some headshots to pass
- 2:02:02around. Get your name out there, get your face out there. Yeah,
- 2:02:05and he did it with with a friend, and the friends like,
- 2:02:09oh well, we got a couple of pictures on the role left and he's
- 2:02:12like, let's just do some funny ones. Oh god, and this was
- 2:02:15one of the funny ones. That's amazing, that's funny. That's the same
- 2:02:18dude. Guys. Yes, he is the Fedora guy, Hugsley, the
- 2:02:26Reddit the Reddit guy. All right, um, thanks, that was a
- 2:02:31nice bit of trivia I did not know about. He's going to be remembered
- 2:02:35long after Christian Richie is dead and barried. Yes, he's immortal. He's
- 2:02:41immortalized now. So we're gonna go into the after show to talk about grandeft
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- 2:03:23video. Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal
- 2:03:29machines. They are talking point machines. They are impossible to deal with,
- 2:03:33especially if you have like especially if you have like a couple of dudes who
- 2:03:36have good memory. On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked.