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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should Know from House stuff Works
- 0:04Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.
- 0:13Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bright. Uh, just sitting there normally right, Yeah,
- 0:20Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything unusual. I think we should have
- 0:23Speaker 1: started this with taking the A Train. I think we
- 0:25Speaker 1: should have changed up our music. Well, let's do that. Okay,
- 0:29Speaker 1: how about this? All right? Howe? How we are we
- 0:36Speaker 1: train to find the quickest way to get um? We
- 0:45Speaker 1: did okay, thanks thanks to the magic of post production,
- 0:49Speaker 1: we did and said that was taking the A Train.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Who made that song? Boy, I don't know who originally
- 0:54Speaker 1: composed it, to be honest, Well, I think I think
- 0:57Speaker 1: we should find out. Well who who just performed it? Well,
- 1:00Speaker 1: there's many versions. Well what's the one you selected, like
- 1:03Speaker 1: a week from now? Uh, I don't know. Did they
- 1:11Speaker 1: do a train? Now it's a jazz tune? Oh? John Coltrane?
- 1:15Speaker 1: Did he do it? Let's go with Coltrane? Man, maybe
- 1:18Speaker 1: I should just do it and that that that then? Oh?
- 1:23Speaker 1: Is that that song? Yeah? Thinking the A Train? That's
- 1:25Speaker 1: a good song. Is it instrumental? Because you know a
- 1:28Speaker 1: lot of those instrumentals actually have lyrics. What the old
- 1:30Speaker 1: jazz tunes. Yeah. Really they in the train. That's it
- 1:36Speaker 1: that You're right? Okay, let's go with Duke Ellington's version.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Duke Ellington did the a train at the beginning of
- 1:42Speaker 1: this episode. I hoped everyone liked it. The Duke. We
- 1:45Speaker 1: haven't heard it yet, that's right. Um So, Chuck, I
- 1:49Speaker 1: know that you know what the subway is because we've
- 1:51Speaker 1: been on the subway together. Yeah. Do you remember when
- 1:55Speaker 1: we were in New York. Um, I believe it was
- 1:59Speaker 1: for ABC Go, our first little opportunity there, and we
- 2:02Speaker 1: were going to meet you me yea, And I remember
- 2:06Speaker 1: I met you me Uh that was that where in
- 2:08Speaker 1: that bar? Afterwards? Well, I mean I worked with her,
- 2:10Speaker 1: but then I was like, that was the first time
- 2:12Speaker 1: you ever hung up? Yeah exactly. Um. So we were
- 2:14Speaker 1: we were going and that was my first time in
- 2:17Speaker 1: the New York subway, and I remember we were looking
- 2:20Speaker 1: at the subway and um, the the whole thing just
- 2:25Speaker 1: turned into like this series of confusing lines to me
- 2:28Speaker 1: and like suddenly I was blind and like holding your arm,
- 2:31Speaker 1: and like I had the mind of a child, and
- 2:34Speaker 1: not even like a really bright child either. It was
- 2:37Speaker 1: just kind of like what does it say, um, and
- 2:40Speaker 1: I can report after being back in New York with
- 2:43Speaker 1: you me several times that I do that to her still,
- 2:47Speaker 1: that we're enabling you was what's going on? I think
- 2:49Speaker 1: it is. I think if you guys had thrown me
- 2:51Speaker 1: in and be like you figure it out, figure it out,
- 2:54Speaker 1: I could have, but I don't have to. Um and uh.
- 2:58Speaker 1: It's kind of nice because it's really infusing. So when
- 3:00Speaker 1: you go to New York, you just kind of like
- 3:02Speaker 1: just go with Yumi's wind wherever she blows kind of
- 3:06Speaker 1: but the wind is coming from her heavy size that
- 3:09Speaker 1: she's the one who has to like read the subway. Yeah. Um.
- 3:14Speaker 1: But now that I've read this article how subways work,
- 3:18Speaker 1: I don't understand the New York subway system any more
- 3:21Speaker 1: than I did before I read this article. But I
- 3:24Speaker 1: can tell you that the rails are made of thirty
- 3:27Speaker 1: five ft long pieces of carbon steel that are five
- 3:29Speaker 1: and a half inches tall and one and a half
- 3:32Speaker 1: inches wide, And you could run any train, any train
- 3:36Speaker 1: on the world, in the world on those rails, not
- 3:39Speaker 1: in the world, but at least in New York, because
- 3:42Speaker 1: I guess there's different cages, but there the New York
- 3:46Speaker 1: subway system was designed so that you could just kind
- 3:49Speaker 1: of if you wanted to, like go to Cleveland on
- 3:53Speaker 1: a subway train, you could. Yeah, that's I was designed. Yeah,
- 3:57Speaker 1: they could put it on just a regular railway track,
- 4:00Speaker 1: then go to Cleveland and then you get to Cleveland. Ego, jeez,
- 4:03Speaker 1: I want to go back to New York. Cleveland's where
- 4:06Speaker 1: the first stoplight in the country was. Did you know that? Really?
- 4:09Speaker 1: I like Cleveland. I'm just kidding. That's where my home
- 4:12Speaker 1: away from home is now. Oh yeah, so it was.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Now they're an Acron, but yeah, it's a suburb of Cleveland.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I never realized that. And I'm from Ohio and I
- 4:22Speaker 1: didn't realize that it was a suburb. It's like half
- 4:25Speaker 1: hour or so. I always thought Acron was more towards Dayton. Yeah, alright,
- 4:31Speaker 1: so Dayton, let's talk about it all right, let's talk
- 4:35Speaker 1: about subways. The Metro and France. Five hundred forty seven
- 4:42Speaker 1: yards every five forty seven yards, you're gonna find a
- 4:45Speaker 1: subway station. Yeah, that's pretty good. No, no, not even there.
- 4:49Speaker 1: There's no building in Paris that's more than five botch
- 4:55Speaker 1: that one. No, but it really you helped build up
- 4:57Speaker 1: the drama okay, Um, the the Tube in London, mind
- 5:01Speaker 1: the gap everyone, Um, two hundred and seventy five stations,
- 5:05Speaker 1: and our dear beloved New York Subway system four hundred
- 5:09Speaker 1: sixty eight as of now, packed into like two hundred
- 5:12Speaker 1: and sixty square miles. Yeah, which is that's pretty impressive.
- 5:15Speaker 1: And that's why the New York subway system looks like
- 5:17Speaker 1: a play of spaghetti man. It's really tough to read.
- 5:20Speaker 1: It's not just me. It can't just be it's not.
- 5:22Speaker 1: You just have to zero in on your area and
- 5:24Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, just you gotta blur your eyes
- 5:28Speaker 1: and block out everything else. And then everyone behind you
- 5:31Speaker 1: was looking at you like tourists. Yeah, exactly what's got
- 5:34Speaker 1: his eyes crossed? And why? Why is does that guy
- 5:37Speaker 1: next to him look like Ronnie Millsap all of a
- 5:39Speaker 1: sudden because I saw him walk down here? Just fine.
- 5:42Speaker 1: The London Underground is the oldest, open in eighteen sixty three.
- 5:47Speaker 1: The Metro was next in hundred in New York not
- 5:50Speaker 1: far behind in nineteen o four. And Tracy, who wrote
- 5:53Speaker 1: a very thorough article this is a Tracy V. Wilson Joy. Yeah,
- 5:56Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be good. Um. She points out
- 5:59Speaker 1: that this they all kind of happened within pretty dense
- 6:02Speaker 1: space of time. Because the Industrial Revolution people were out
- 6:05Speaker 1: in farming and and they're like, screw this, I need
- 6:09Speaker 1: a decent egg roll. Yeah, I'm gonna move into the
- 6:11Speaker 1: city where I can get a job in a factory.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Well yeah, and before that there weren't jobs and factories
- 6:17Speaker 1: because there weren't factories. Part of the Industrial Revolution was
- 6:20Speaker 1: the rise of factories. Everybody threw down their agrarian tools
- 6:24Speaker 1: like scites, forget this hole, I'm out of here, right right,
- 6:29Speaker 1: clever word play, thank you, um, and they moved to
- 6:33Speaker 1: the cities. And when they moved to the cities, all
- 6:34Speaker 1: of a sudden there was a lot of people who
- 6:37Speaker 1: needed to move about and they didn't have cars, partially
- 6:41Speaker 1: because cars hadn't been invented yet, that was one reason,
- 6:44Speaker 1: but also even beyond that, like not everybody could afford
- 6:47Speaker 1: a horse, but they still need to get someplace. So
- 6:50Speaker 1: it's a good point. City fathers in these areas Paris London,
- 6:55Speaker 1: London first, and then Um because I think it was
- 6:59Speaker 1: the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, and then and then
- 7:02Speaker 1: New York. Um said all right, we need to figure
- 7:04Speaker 1: out how to move a bunch of these people at once,
- 7:07Speaker 1: and what they came up with was mass transit, but
- 7:09Speaker 1: it was all above ground mass transit, and it involved horses.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Remember the Wing Cries Typhoid Merry episode. One horse produces
- 7:19Speaker 1: twenty pounds of poop per day, and New York had
- 7:22Speaker 1: like a hundred thousand horses or something like that walking around. Yeah,
- 7:26Speaker 1: you know how much poopa subway train produces zero. Yeah,
- 7:29Speaker 1: there's probably a couple of guys pooping on the trains,
- 7:32Speaker 1: but attribute that to the guy on the train. That's
- 7:35Speaker 1: not really the subway. That's true. It is not exhaust
- 7:38Speaker 1: as you as you would call horses spoop um, they
- 7:42Speaker 1: wouldn't call it, So you're right. They had horse drawn
- 7:45Speaker 1: carriages and these cool things called omnibusses, which were longer
- 7:48Speaker 1: horse drawn carriages. Now they're known by their slang term bus.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what that's what a bus is. I'm
- 7:57Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. People in New York. Worst
- 8:00Speaker 1: in New York. If you're in New York, you got
- 8:02Speaker 1: it all figured out. But tourist in New York, I
- 8:05Speaker 1: would recommend that you occasionally take a bus trip. Don't
- 8:08Speaker 1: be afraid of the bus, like a regular bus or
- 8:11Speaker 1: a tourist bus, a double dunker bus. Don't take those, No,
- 8:15Speaker 1: a regular bus, you're you're a little metro card. You
- 8:17Speaker 1: might even know this if you've just been in New
- 8:19Speaker 1: York like once. It works on the buses so as
- 8:21Speaker 1: well as the subways. And a lot of times if
- 8:24Speaker 1: you're like uptown at the park, you're like, man, I
- 8:27Speaker 1: can't find a subway stop near me. I need to
- 8:29Speaker 1: get downtown. Just walk to the edge and chances are
- 8:31Speaker 1: you going to see a bus with its own little lane.
- 8:34Speaker 1: It's just going south and you get a nice views
- 8:37Speaker 1: of everything you're out out and about above ground. And
- 8:42Speaker 1: that's just my advice of tourist. Don't be afraid of
- 8:43Speaker 1: the busses in New York. It could be a great
- 8:45Speaker 1: way to get around. There's also cabs, you know. Yeah,
- 8:48Speaker 1: but you know those are expensive, man. Yeah yeah, I
- 8:53Speaker 1: mean not on Discovery channels. But when I'm there on
- 8:57Speaker 1: my own dime, I take a lot of buses and
- 8:59Speaker 1: subway yeah sure, and it's subway yeah yeah, But I
- 9:02Speaker 1: didn't realize you took the bus. Yeah, buses are great.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I had no idea. So you take the bus and
- 9:09Speaker 1: you know where your local elector lives. That's right, that's
- 9:12Speaker 1: pretty impressive, chuck. So what happened with these buses though?
- 9:16Speaker 1: And with all the horsepoop? As they said, this is
- 9:17Speaker 1: getting out of hand. Um, we need to go underground
- 9:21Speaker 1: because there's no more room up here. Yeah. We we'd
- 9:23Speaker 1: love to build trains, but we can't because there's too
- 9:26Speaker 1: many people, so too many bagel shops. So London did
- 9:31Speaker 1: it first, right, eighteen sixty three is when it opened. Yeah,
- 9:35Speaker 1: god knows when they started construction. Look at someone knows
- 9:40Speaker 1: God besides God. Um, and uh, then within forty years,
- 9:45Speaker 1: I guess Paris open. There's because it was such a
- 9:47Speaker 1: huge success. And I mean it was just brilliant. The
- 9:51Speaker 1: problem is it was also like planning wise, it was
- 9:56Speaker 1: a brilliant move, but um, construction wise, it makes almost
- 10:00Speaker 1: no sense whatsoever. It's like, Hey, where's the hardest place
- 10:04Speaker 1: we can put this mass transit system. I've got it. Yeah,
- 10:09Speaker 1: through a river like under bedrock, um, and basically through
- 10:13Speaker 1: every obstacle that we can create that we've already created. Yeah,
- 10:19Speaker 1: that's a good point. Talk about this. These days, they
- 10:21Speaker 1: have this really cool machine called the tunnel boring machine. Yeah,
- 10:25Speaker 1: did you see these? Yeah, it looks awesome. It's basically
- 10:27Speaker 1: like a tremor worm, Yeah, but a mechanized one that
- 10:31Speaker 1: won't turn on you. Um and I hope people caught
- 10:35Speaker 1: that little reference. Which one. So this TVM tunnel boring
- 10:40Speaker 1: machine um has disc and scrapers, crushes rock into into
- 10:46Speaker 1: pebbles and sand. It has like a conveyor belt that
- 10:48Speaker 1: comes out the back, so it is kind of likeating
- 10:52Speaker 1: and then dudes get rid of that stuff. And uh,
- 10:54Speaker 1: it actually supports the tunnel as it digs and does
- 10:57Speaker 1: a really really great job. But um, we all love
- 11:01Speaker 1: the TV. They're fairly new though. They didn't have these
- 11:03Speaker 1: back in the day. Um So back in the day
- 11:06Speaker 1: they had to do it by hand and picks, shovels,
- 11:11Speaker 1: dynamite yeah or TNT, depending on where your preferences lie. Um. Yeah.
- 11:17Speaker 1: So this was kind of a problem in that you
- 11:20Speaker 1: didn't have a conveyor belt. You had to use pick.
- 11:23Speaker 1: You frequently ran into rock and sometimes you had to
- 11:26Speaker 1: dig into the bedrock, which you know, bedrock that's just
- 11:29Speaker 1: like that's the actual Earth's surface. Everything else like yeah,
- 11:32Speaker 1: mudd and dirt that's just like runoff. Did you realize that. Yeah,
- 11:37Speaker 1: I just recently realized that I've done that for years.
- 11:40Speaker 1: But that bedrock it's kind of tough to get through. Yeah,
- 11:44Speaker 1: New York City alone, UM had eight thousand laborers to
- 11:48Speaker 1: work on this project, about sixty of which died. And
- 11:52Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have account on the
- 11:54Speaker 1: injury sustained. I'm sure it was like sixty a day injured.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Do you think I don't know thousands of injuries? Let's
- 12:01Speaker 1: just say that, UM, did you look up the New
- 12:05Speaker 1: Austrian tunneling method? I did. I want to know about this.
- 12:08Speaker 1: I didn't have a chance to. I don't. I can't
- 12:10Speaker 1: tell you. Please tell me it is. It had like
- 12:14Speaker 1: eight different tenants, so it's not so much a method
- 12:17Speaker 1: of digging as it is a, as Tracy points out,
- 12:20Speaker 1: a collection of techniques for digging and finding out where
- 12:23Speaker 1: to dig. Yeah, where to dig and how to dig? Um?
- 12:26Speaker 1: So like, what are they like? No? No, they're not
- 12:32Speaker 1: random like that. But you know, we should do an
- 12:35Speaker 1: article on tunneling period because it's pretty amazing. And the
- 12:38Speaker 1: reason they called it the New Austrian method was to
- 12:41Speaker 1: distinguish it from the old Austrian methods. I guess that
- 12:45Speaker 1: they must be the king tunnel ers like Charles Bunsen.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Is he Austrian? Uh no, but he was the tunneler
- 12:53Speaker 1: in Great Escape? But didn't he was the tunnel expert. Um,
- 12:59Speaker 1: so that that's that from Reservoir Dogs. That was a
- 13:01Speaker 1: line at one point someone says, he's like Charles Bronson
- 13:05Speaker 1: in Great Escape he was digging tunnels. How did they
- 13:09Speaker 1: miss that line? I don't know. Well, so you just
- 13:12Speaker 1: referenced the reference of a movie. The method that they
- 13:17Speaker 1: use for a long time, um was the cut and
- 13:19Speaker 1: cover method, which this is crazy. They like literally rip
- 13:24Speaker 1: up a street, put a subway there, and then build
- 13:27Speaker 1: the street back on top. It makes uttering complete sense
- 13:30Speaker 1: for a couple of routes. Number one, subways are meant
- 13:32Speaker 1: to serve like areas streets, right, It's basically like a
- 13:36Speaker 1: street that happens to be underground that moves a bunch
- 13:39Speaker 1: of people at once. Yeah. Okay, so following a street
- 13:42Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, especially if you're a planner. Um.
- 13:46Speaker 1: The problem is you are completely ripping up a street
- 13:50Speaker 1: temporarily because you're what you're doing is you're digging a
- 13:54Speaker 1: trench and then rebuilding the earth above it. But the
- 13:58Speaker 1: good thing is is you can rebuild of the earth
- 14:00Speaker 1: above it even stronger. It's like Steve Austin or something
- 14:03Speaker 1: like that, right, Yeah, Like you dig a trench as
- 14:06Speaker 1: far down as you want your subway to be, and
- 14:09Speaker 1: you put in pilings, you drive them down, preferably into
- 14:13Speaker 1: bedrock if you can, and then you put like tresses
- 14:16Speaker 1: and beams over those nice buttress every now and then. Yeah,
- 14:19Speaker 1: and then you can rebuild the ground in the road
- 14:23Speaker 1: up above it. You can also reroute any um sewer lines,
- 14:27Speaker 1: any power lines, any anything through these tresses and being frankly,
- 14:32Speaker 1: I'm a cut and cover method guy. Yeah, Well, it
- 14:35Speaker 1: also makes sense because the streets are probably not gonna
- 14:39Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna run into as many obstacles, Um,
- 14:42Speaker 1: like a basement of a major building. Yeah, exactly, because
- 14:45Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a major building in the middle of
- 14:46Speaker 1: the street. There was a cool part in The Devil
- 14:49Speaker 1: in the White City. Did you ever read that man
- 14:51Speaker 1: that's on the list? You like it a lot um
- 14:54Speaker 1: where they're talking about how Chicago built the first skyscrapers.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and um, basically they figured out how
- 15:03Speaker 1: to float the foundations of the building above the bedrock,
- 15:08Speaker 1: because the bedrock was really far down and there was
- 15:11Speaker 1: like the sandy shifting soil. I can't remember it specifically,
- 15:15Speaker 1: but it's like, Wow, I'm I'm riveted by this description
- 15:18Speaker 1: of an architectural technique, a building technique that they figured
- 15:22Speaker 1: out so you didn't even need the murders. I found
- 15:26Speaker 1: them superfluous. Really, it was a good book, and I'm
- 15:32Speaker 1: not one for like popular fiction like that is popular
- 15:35Speaker 1: semi fiction, historical fiction. Yeah, it's good. I like it. Um,
- 15:40Speaker 1: So we're talking about obstacles, and that is a big
- 15:43Speaker 1: problem when you're when you're digging tunnels, especially under a
- 15:45Speaker 1: city that's already has an infrastructure in place. Um, you're
- 15:50Speaker 1: going to run into things that you can move. Sometimes,
- 15:54Speaker 1: you're gonna run into things that you can't move sometimes
- 15:57Speaker 1: that you have to move around. So, like you ever
- 16:00Speaker 1: in in a subway, especially New York that really slows
- 16:03Speaker 1: down and takes one of those hard turns, It maybe
- 16:07Speaker 1: because you know that's the direction you need to start
- 16:10Speaker 1: going now, but more than likely it's because they had
- 16:12Speaker 1: to reroute it, especially if it's an old section of
- 16:16Speaker 1: the subway. Yeah, very true, because now you can just
- 16:18Speaker 1: put the TVM on that thing, and it's like, whatever
- 16:21Speaker 1: you need, guys, all go get it. Well, yeah, but
- 16:24Speaker 1: I'm talking more along the lines of man made obstructions
- 16:26Speaker 1: like gas lines, thematic lines. But with with those like
- 16:31Speaker 1: water lines are probably very tough, but all of those
- 16:34Speaker 1: can be rerouted. You can basically reroute the line rather
- 16:38Speaker 1: than reroute the subway line. It probably depends on which
- 16:41Speaker 1: one is more cost effective, is what they go with.
- 16:43Speaker 1: You know. Um you can also, like I said, if
- 16:45Speaker 1: you're doing a cut and cover method, you can, Um,
- 16:48Speaker 1: you can basically hang those same lines from these You
- 16:52Speaker 1: can use the beams and tresses as support for those
- 16:55Speaker 1: same lines. It's that makes sense. Uh. Sometimes, as Tracy
- 17:27Speaker 1: pointed out, you see lines that aren't on any blueprints.
- 17:31Speaker 1: You're like, wait a minute, what's this big pipe doing here?
- 17:33Speaker 1: It doesn't show up on any registry that we have
- 17:36Speaker 1: for the city. Uh, we gotta find out what this
- 17:40Speaker 1: is to see if we can move it. Yeah. Maybe
- 17:42Speaker 1: it's old and unused and you can throw it away.
- 17:45Speaker 1: That'd be great. Maybe it's full of dangerous gases which
- 17:49Speaker 1: is not great, or full of water, or maybe you
- 17:52Speaker 1: hit an aquifer. Yeah, water is a big one. Yeah,
- 17:54Speaker 1: if you hit an aquifer, well you know what that is.
- 17:57Speaker 1: That's just a bunch of water pooled on top of
- 17:59Speaker 1: the bedrock, which is really the surface of the earth. Um.
- 18:04Speaker 1: You you can hit an aquifer, you might have to
- 18:07Speaker 1: say across the river, like the East River. Um. And
- 18:10Speaker 1: when you do that, you have to generally tunnel under it,
- 18:13Speaker 1: which is extremely dangerous because then not only you don't
- 18:17Speaker 1: just have a street that can collapse on top of you,
- 18:19Speaker 1: you have a river that can collapse on top of you.
- 18:21Speaker 1: And rivers tend to weigh more than streets. Yeah, and
- 18:23Speaker 1: you can drown and a river you can't drown in
- 18:26Speaker 1: a street, right, that's it's full of water. UM. I
- 18:29Speaker 1: thought this was pretty clever. How they how was it
- 18:32Speaker 1: Paris in the sin before We're drowning? So they basically
- 18:36Speaker 1: put down like pods and then sent compressed air into
- 18:41Speaker 1: the pod and blew all the water out. And then
- 18:44Speaker 1: men went into these pods and worked. And they use
- 18:47Speaker 1: the same thing or a similar technique in um building
- 18:51Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bridge pylons. But the problem was like people
- 18:55Speaker 1: would come up and get the bends from working beneath
- 18:59Speaker 1: the water surface, but in a dry like area, compressed
- 19:02Speaker 1: air because they were down so far and they just
- 19:05Speaker 1: come up without thinking about it and get the bends. Well,
- 19:08Speaker 1: the good news is if you're working under the water
- 19:10Speaker 1: like that, you're probably gonna get a little pay bump,
- 19:13Speaker 1: like hazard pay as they call it. UM. And the
- 19:16Speaker 1: other cool thing they did in Paris too, was they
- 19:18Speaker 1: they found that um, some of this mud and like
- 19:23Speaker 1: wet dirt, which is mine, was too hard to deal with,
- 19:27Speaker 1: so they froze it with calcium chloride and all of
- 19:30Speaker 1: a sudden they removed it like it was a big
- 19:32Speaker 1: chunk of clay. Yeah, pretty neat. It was very clever.
- 19:35Speaker 1: And that was old timing construction too. I was that
- 19:38Speaker 1: back in the day, I believe, so I didn't realize
- 19:40Speaker 1: that they were that clever back then. It's pretty smart. Um.
- 19:44Speaker 1: You can also basically use the cut and cover method
- 19:48Speaker 1: in Uh your pick on that, and I love that.
- 19:51Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you a T shirt. This is cut
- 19:53Speaker 1: and cover, but I wouldn't wear that. It just makes
- 19:56Speaker 1: sense to me, Yeah, it does. Um. You can use
- 19:59Speaker 1: the cut and cover method across the river. That's what
- 20:02Speaker 1: they did in the San Francisco Bay. Um. They basically
- 20:06Speaker 1: just cut the tunnel they wanted and prefabricated the um
- 20:11Speaker 1: sections of the subway tunnel and put it in the
- 20:14Speaker 1: trench and then just cover it back up and I
- 20:17Speaker 1: guess like waiting for the water to leak out. Over
- 20:20Speaker 1: the course of several decades UM. In the very old
- 20:25Speaker 1: cities like Paris, they have also uncovered some pretty interesting things.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Um like catacombs full of human bones. Yeah, there's a
- 20:35Speaker 1: whole documentary on that. Cannonballs, quarries, very deep quarries. This
- 20:40Speaker 1: is kind of cool. I thought this was very cool.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Some of the quarries in Paris were so deep that
- 20:45Speaker 1: they had to actually build bridges, underground bridges for the
- 20:49Speaker 1: subway to get across. It's an elevated train underground. Yeah,
- 20:52Speaker 1: and nuts across ancient Roman quarries. Man, I mean that's crazy. Yeah. Um,
- 20:59Speaker 1: there's a lot of cool stuff like that, um like
- 21:02Speaker 1: abandoned subway stations if you're into that kind of thing,
- 21:06Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people who listen to
- 21:07Speaker 1: us are. There's a website called um NYC subway dot
- 21:12Speaker 1: org and they have like little reports on like stations
- 21:17Speaker 1: when they were built, when they were decommissioned, why photos
- 21:20Speaker 1: taken of them after they were abandoned. And there's actually
- 21:23Speaker 1: a little trick, chuck um where if you were on
- 21:27Speaker 1: the six train and now you're talking about do you
- 21:30Speaker 1: I think so the City Hall stop. Yeah. So if
- 21:33Speaker 1: you're on the six train and you're headed towards the
- 21:36Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bridge stop and you stay on right, the train
- 21:40Speaker 1: will actually go around a loop to turn around and
- 21:43Speaker 1: go the other way. That loop goes through an old
- 21:46Speaker 1: abandoned um Metro stop or mt A stop, And um,
- 21:52Speaker 1: it's this incredible stained glass architecture, like preserved turn of
- 21:58Speaker 1: the century subway station that's just like frozen in time.
- 22:01Speaker 1: It was in operation from like nineteen o four, and
- 22:05Speaker 1: they used to make everybody get off at Brooklyn Bridge,
- 22:07Speaker 1: but now they'll let people stay on. And do they
- 22:10Speaker 1: Because I couldn't find recent information, I saw an article
- 22:12Speaker 1: today that said they did that for a while, another
- 22:14Speaker 1: or not, and then I saw another one that said
- 22:17Speaker 1: no you can. Um. I wonder if it's just arbitrary,
- 22:21Speaker 1: like depending on who's I know that they cleaned it
- 22:23Speaker 1: up in two thousand four and made it like kind
- 22:26Speaker 1: of I don't think they like put tons of money
- 22:27Speaker 1: towards restoration, but they cleaned it up really nice and
- 22:30Speaker 1: allowed like light to come through the stained glass, and
- 22:33Speaker 1: for a little while they let people stop and get
- 22:35Speaker 1: off and kind of tour it. But I know they
- 22:37Speaker 1: shut that down, Yeah, because the whole reason, well one
- 22:39Speaker 1: of the big reasons they showed it done because there's
- 22:41Speaker 1: such a tight curve that the um, the modern subway
- 22:45Speaker 1: cars can't sit flush up against the platform, so there's
- 22:48Speaker 1: a pretty big gap that people would have to jump
- 22:50Speaker 1: over to get off. So I can imagine you can't
- 22:53Speaker 1: get off. But from what I saw it was a
- 22:54Speaker 1: two thousand article it said you can stay on. Now. Well,
- 22:59Speaker 1: I've been meaning to check that out and going in November,
- 23:00Speaker 1: I'll check it out. Yeah, dude, let me know, report back.
- 23:03Speaker 1: I will report back. Okay. Um, So, rolling stock or
- 23:08Speaker 1: what these trains are actually called. And in some cities
- 23:12Speaker 1: the rolling stock is automated, like Denmark. The one they're
- 23:16Speaker 1: building now doesn't have drivers, which is kind of neat.
- 23:20Speaker 1: They have like you know, laser beams and uh and
- 23:24Speaker 1: all these crazy surveillance systems to drive the train. The
- 23:29Speaker 1: computerized what no what they do? And um, they navigate it.
- 23:36Speaker 1: They use break heat to generate power. They will even
- 23:40Speaker 1: let you know, someone stuck in the door. Um, yeah,
- 23:43Speaker 1: we'll open the door back up and did not drive away,
- 23:46Speaker 1: not drive away while someone stuck. And New York they're
- 23:48Speaker 1: actually trying out some of these now too. Actually yeah,
- 23:53Speaker 1: I didn't see when this article was written, but they
- 23:55Speaker 1: were the Tracy made mention of the um the the
- 24:00Speaker 1: addition that's being made to Long Island. Is this going
- 24:03Speaker 1: on still and like just this revamping that's going on constant, Well,
- 24:08Speaker 1: the revamping I think it was a seventeen billion dollar
- 24:11Speaker 1: bid in ninety four and there adding new lines or
- 24:15Speaker 1: trying to spruce up the trains and like you know,
- 24:17Speaker 1: replace the old cars. They're improving the air circulation, which
- 24:22Speaker 1: she points out like just because it's open up top
- 24:26Speaker 1: and a little bit of air can get in, doesn't
- 24:28Speaker 1: mean you don't have to have like a massive air
- 24:29Speaker 1: circulation system. And if you've ever been like deep within
- 24:33Speaker 1: the bowels of the subway system, then you might be
- 24:36Speaker 1: wondering if it's working properly, But it is, or you'd
- 24:40Speaker 1: be dead. Yeah, you'd die. Yeah, Yeah, they're the It
- 24:43Speaker 1: takes a tremendous amount of air to be recirculated to
- 24:46Speaker 1: allow humans to live underground. I think she said something
- 24:50Speaker 1: was it? Ye, six thousand cubic feet of fresh air
- 24:53Speaker 1: per minute is what is what they're shooting for. I
- 24:55Speaker 1: don't think it's there now, but that's their goal. Should
- 25:00Speaker 1: we talk about some of the signals, yeah, train signals. Yeah. So, um,
- 25:05Speaker 1: before a long long time ago, when a driver reached
- 25:09Speaker 1: a stoplight and had to come to a stop, they
- 25:12Speaker 1: had to put a key in and turn it to
- 25:14Speaker 1: reset the stoplight and be able to drive. And there's
- 25:17Speaker 1: a term called keying by that they still use. So
- 25:21Speaker 1: they do still use it. Now it's much more automated, um,
- 25:25Speaker 1: but there's there's still a set of signals where it's
- 25:27Speaker 1: like stop, proceed with caution, green light, you know, just
- 25:32Speaker 1: go as fast as you can. They do a speed limits. Yeah,
- 25:35Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, they're posted too, aren't they. Uh yeah,
- 25:39Speaker 1: I mean the driver can see them at least imagine
- 25:44Speaker 1: if you were looking and you're up front, you could
- 25:45Speaker 1: probably see him and to have the driver around the
- 25:47Speaker 1: shoulder and be like, we're going way faster than the Yeah.
- 25:50Speaker 1: I mean Martha here in Atlanta, which is sort of
- 25:52Speaker 1: a subway, you can um, I mean you can ride
- 25:55Speaker 1: it right up front by the the person and I've
- 25:57Speaker 1: done this many times and just kind of spide in
- 25:59Speaker 1: on how you drive the Marta train, and every time
- 26:02Speaker 1: I look, I'm like, I could totally drive this thing
- 26:04Speaker 1: right now. Oh yeah, yeah, dude. It's just like it's
- 26:07Speaker 1: got a little forward lever and a neutral and a
- 26:10Speaker 1: reverse and a break and then that's pretty much it. Yeah,
- 26:14Speaker 1: I could do it right now. You can drive it
- 26:15Speaker 1: through arms Crost right mark. Have you seen it's been
- 26:19Speaker 1: going around Facebook, the Marta map compared to the rest
- 26:22Speaker 1: of the world's Facebook. Oh, it's like New York, London, Paris,
- 26:27Speaker 1: and they all look like a play a spaghetti And
- 26:28Speaker 1: then it's Atlanta with its little plus sign plus sign
- 26:31Speaker 1: it's got two branches. But I will argue that, I mean,
- 26:36Speaker 1: it does suck in a way. But I will argue
- 26:38Speaker 1: that Atlanta didn't build it subway in eighteen sixty three.
- 26:42Speaker 1: They built it in like nineteen seventies something, and but yeah,
- 26:46Speaker 1: it stopped. Okay, I was gonna say, this isn't a
- 26:48Speaker 1: work in progress. No, they've added some stuff since. Yeah,
- 26:51Speaker 1: a little bit, but really it's pretty bad. It does
- 26:54Speaker 1: suck in every way. I mean, it's it's great if
- 26:57Speaker 1: it goes from the one place you need to go
- 26:58Speaker 1: to the other place you need to go. Sure, and
- 27:01Speaker 1: chances are that's not the case, and it sometimes it does, though,
- 27:05Speaker 1: especially if you live near a rail line. But even still,
- 27:07Speaker 1: you make one big l Yeah, I mean it's great
- 27:11Speaker 1: for me. I'm like Falcons game day, you know, right
- 27:14Speaker 1: down the street, Hop on there my brown bag, Hop off.
- 27:19Speaker 1: I'm right at the stadium. Yeah, it's nice your brown bag, so,
- 27:24Speaker 1: you know, for hyperventilation, right in case something bad goes down,
- 27:28Speaker 1: in case the six hundred thousand cubic leaders of error
- 27:31Speaker 1: isn't moved through now most of Atlanta is above ground subway. Really,
- 27:34Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It sucks in every way. Uh.
- 27:37Speaker 1: These things run on electricity these days, not like the
- 27:39Speaker 1: old steam train days. Yeah. I don't even know that
- 27:43Speaker 1: that was worth mentioning. Well, I think so because you
- 27:46Speaker 1: have the third rail that everyone knows is very dangerous. Yeah,
- 27:49Speaker 1: six volts in New York and you have a hundred
- 27:52Speaker 1: and twenty coming into your house. Really yeah, oh wow,
- 27:55Speaker 1: So it'll get you. It'll fry rap like they're not kidding. Uh. Uh.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Sometimes the third rail is between the two tracks. Sometimes
- 28:03Speaker 1: it's on the outside and then you generally have a
- 28:06Speaker 1: a brush or a shoe sliding shoe or a wheel
- 28:10Speaker 1: that connects to that and that supplies power to the train.
- 28:13Speaker 1: And um, they used to have its own power plant
- 28:18Speaker 1: to run the subway system in New York. I guess
- 28:21Speaker 1: these days they just mooch it from everyone. You know,
- 28:25Speaker 1: if you follow a chord in the subway, it's actually
- 28:28Speaker 1: going into somebody's living room. It's coming through the window.
- 29:03Speaker 1: All right, I think the fact of the podcast, I
- 29:05Speaker 1: will give it to you, but to me, it's the
- 29:07Speaker 1: geometry train. Yeah. I've seen these before, but um you have.
- 29:11Speaker 1: I've seen ones that were just there. It looks like
- 29:15Speaker 1: a little platform or something like that going by. Yeah, well,
- 29:20Speaker 1: or I dreamt one, uh yeah, this one in the
- 29:25Speaker 1: diagrams like full of computers and people. I haven't seen that.
- 29:29Speaker 1: But basically a geometry train, like if you have you know,
- 29:33Speaker 1: hundreds and thousands and millions of miles of subway track,
- 29:38Speaker 1: and some of it dates back a hundred years um
- 29:41Speaker 1: thanks to seismic activity, fire um weather peoples. Yes, all
- 29:49Speaker 1: this stuff is going to basically pull your checks out
- 29:51Speaker 1: of alignment. And tracks need to be fairly precise to
- 29:54Speaker 1: keep trains from like hopping off right so to um
- 29:58Speaker 1: to basically keep or find I should say, the rails
- 30:02Speaker 1: that are out of alignment. They have this thing called
- 30:04Speaker 1: the geometry train, which have your lasers that you're so
- 30:07Speaker 1: fond of, and uh, it basically just goes down the
- 30:10Speaker 1: track every track, and these things are running like twenty
- 30:13Speaker 1: four hours a day, seven days a week. Um. Yeah,
- 30:15Speaker 1: the one in New York runs at all times. Cool
- 30:17Speaker 1: and uh, and you would think it would have to.
- 30:20Speaker 1: I wonder how long it takes for a geometry train
- 30:22Speaker 1: to hit every track. Yeah. Man, that's a good question.
- 30:25Speaker 1: It's gotta take years. But anyway, it just rides along
- 30:29Speaker 1: and takes precise measurements of the alignment of the tracks,
- 30:32Speaker 1: and anything that's over one point to five inches out
- 30:36Speaker 1: of alignment, there's a report that's violed and says go
- 30:38Speaker 1: fix that track. And they also, just as an added bonus,
- 30:42Speaker 1: the geometry train finds hot spots using heat centers and
- 30:46Speaker 1: shoots them with fire extinguishers, Like if there's something flammable
- 30:50Speaker 1: in the other track, they could uh combust, whether it's
- 30:53Speaker 1: like a Derrito's bag, a cool ranch Derrito's bag, Uh,
- 30:58Speaker 1: any kind of Derrida goes back, Well, the dudes probably
- 31:02Speaker 1: already toast anyway, if he's on the third rail, he is,
- 31:05Speaker 1: And uh, that's a good reference for a spontaneous combustion podcasts.
- 31:10Speaker 1: In New York City and in many cities, the fair
- 31:12Speaker 1: does not cover the costs of running this massive system
- 31:16Speaker 1: about half yeah in New York. So um, if you're
- 31:19Speaker 1: complaining about the price of a subway New York, just
- 31:22Speaker 1: remember it could be double yeah if they were to
- 31:24Speaker 1: cover all the costs. So counter blessings new Yorkers. Yeah,
- 31:28Speaker 1: don't complain to me, and thank New York for big government.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Do you like the subway? Uh? Tracy points out that
- 31:38Speaker 1: the subways and at least the tunnels over the years
- 31:41Speaker 1: have been the site of refuge and terror. That was
- 31:47Speaker 1: a great setup, that's true though, Oh yeah it is. Um.
- 31:50Speaker 1: During World War one and two in London and Paris,
- 31:55Speaker 1: I believe people saw it cover against air raids. Um. Yeah,
- 32:00Speaker 1: in the subways. But world War One I was like,
- 32:03Speaker 1: that's when they were dropping bricks on each other, Like really,
- 32:07Speaker 1: that's how you would take down a plane. You fly
- 32:09Speaker 1: over another airplane and drop a brick and just go
- 32:11Speaker 1: right through a wing. And that was that for the plane. Yeah,
- 32:15Speaker 1: I thought they at least had the little tube like
- 32:17Speaker 1: the and it would shoot something like this somewhere mortar,
- 32:21Speaker 1: but that's ground based. That's those are mortars. Yeah, well yeah,
- 32:24Speaker 1: I guess you would still need to take refuge against
- 32:27Speaker 1: the mortar. Doesn't have to be a plane, and a
- 32:29Speaker 1: mortar comes through an air so yeah, air raid. Do
- 32:33Speaker 1: you want to get technical? But yes, World War two
- 32:36Speaker 1: for sure, during the blitz um of London. There are
- 32:41Speaker 1: a lot of people underground in the tube seeking help
- 32:45Speaker 1: and shelter. That's right, as are the mold people. Um,
- 32:48Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the documentary Dark Days Highly recommended,
- 32:51Speaker 1: is that about the mold people? Or this is like
- 32:54Speaker 1: the theres a. It's a group of homeless people. They
- 32:56Speaker 1: don't identify themselves as mold mold people as one of
- 32:59Speaker 1: those terms. You know, the people above ground made up,
- 33:02Speaker 1: uh somewhat sensational, But there are people living underground, some
- 33:06Speaker 1: I haven't been up in a long long time. In
- 33:08Speaker 1: this dude made the documentary. I think he actually went
- 33:11Speaker 1: underground and lived there for a couple of years to
- 33:12Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, yeah, so he wasn't like, you know,
- 33:15Speaker 1: I'll be down there for a few hours on Wednesday,
- 33:18Speaker 1: but then I have aybody lost appointment after that, so
- 33:20Speaker 1: I need to get back above ground. Um. And then
- 33:26Speaker 1: everyone remembers the Tokyo sarin gas episode killed twelve people.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Sure that was incredibly frightening. UM London, thousand five seven
- 33:37Speaker 1: seven it was July seven. Oh yeah, was that significant
- 33:43Speaker 1: or no? That's just how they referred to it, like
- 33:45Speaker 1: we referred to nine eleven is nine eleven interesting? And
- 33:50Speaker 1: then in our own nine eleven UM it destroyed subway
- 33:53Speaker 1: station and damaged some of the track. I think we
- 33:56Speaker 1: talked about that in the UM nine eleven memorial. I
- 34:00Speaker 1: think you're right. Didn't they preserve it somehow? Like they're
- 34:03Speaker 1: one of the trains is going to be in the museum.
- 34:06Speaker 1: I think so, because that rang a bell to me.
- 34:08Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit that up in November as well. Oh man,
- 34:11Speaker 1: I can't wait to go to that. It's gonna be
- 34:13Speaker 1: something else. UM. Originally you had tickets, then that became coins.
- 34:18Speaker 1: These days you might have an R F I D ticket. UM.
- 34:22Speaker 1: I think that was. I was in Switzerland. It was
- 34:24Speaker 1: like an honor system thing. Really. Yeah. I remember being
- 34:28Speaker 1: there and looking around like I don't see like where
- 34:31Speaker 1: you put the ticket in or anything. I think it's
- 34:34Speaker 1: just on our system. It was either Switzerland or Sweden.
- 34:37Speaker 1: I think of Switzerland, and I just remember thinking, these
- 34:39Speaker 1: people are crazy. So you just didn't pay a cent
- 34:44Speaker 1: just to teach them a lesson. Yeah, no, I paid
- 34:46Speaker 1: my fare, so chuck. Train car. If you are a
- 34:51Speaker 1: train car, how how many axles are you going to
- 34:56Speaker 1: go through? If you're in New York, if you're part
- 34:58Speaker 1: of their system in your lifetime, well, you're gonna live
- 35:01Speaker 1: about forty to fifty years. Um, you will go through
- 35:05Speaker 1: twenty four axles and twenty four motors over the span,
- 35:09Speaker 1: so that'll be two years. You're gonna get gussied up
- 35:12Speaker 1: a little. You're gonna get forty eight wheels over that time. Yeah,
- 35:15Speaker 1: not bad, not at once. And at the end of
- 35:18Speaker 1: your lifespan, they will dumpy in the ocean off the
- 35:21Speaker 1: coast of South Carolina. Have you seen pictures of that? Yeah? Yeah,
- 35:24Speaker 1: I found a whole little gallery. It's only like ten pictures.
- 35:27Speaker 1: But um on fast Code design um dot com they
- 35:32Speaker 1: have it's called surreal photos of subway cars being thrown
- 35:36Speaker 1: into the ocean. It is surreal it's really because you
- 35:38Speaker 1: look at that and you're like, no, how could you? Yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 1: and then oh, it's good for the environment somehow, right,
- 35:45Speaker 1: as long as they take the gas out first in
- 35:47Speaker 1: the oil. All right. So I got some more little
- 35:49Speaker 1: fun things. Uh. The overhaul and repair shop on Coney
- 35:54Speaker 1: Island is where it all goes down. Um. They have
- 35:57Speaker 1: over one three over five hundred thousand square feet of
- 36:02Speaker 1: shop space. We just counted that fast. Yeah, I just
- 36:06Speaker 1: you know, five thousands wasn't kind of each square foot? Um.
- 36:13Speaker 1: And this is where everything goes to get worked on
- 36:15Speaker 1: in New York. Everything they can even work on regular trains. Um.
- 36:19Speaker 1: They can store eighteen hundred subway cars there. And they
- 36:23Speaker 1: have a car wash that um subway car wash o business.
- 36:33Speaker 1: It cleans the exteriors of over one thousand cars once
- 36:37Speaker 1: a week and that's fifty thousand washes in a year.
- 36:41Speaker 1: It's a lot of washes. Then they just came out
- 36:43Speaker 1: with the new UM survey on the New York subway
- 36:46Speaker 1: system and the Q line was ranked the number one line.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Which where is that? I'm not sure? So Q runs
- 36:54Speaker 1: between Coney Island still all Avenue in Brooklyn and Astoria.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Did mize Boulevard and Queens m So in other words,
- 37:02Speaker 1: that's the one no one takes. So it's very clean.
- 37:05Speaker 1: It's very clean. And for the fourth year in a row,
- 37:07Speaker 1: the Sea train was ranked as the worst UM. It
- 37:10Speaker 1: failed an all four measures amount of scheduled service delaysed
- 37:15Speaker 1: caused by mechanical breakdowns, cleanliness, and announcements UM, whether or
- 37:21Speaker 1: not the announcements like or even something you can hear
- 37:25Speaker 1: makes sense, or whether it's just garbled mess. Get see
- 37:27Speaker 1: this is why I can't like, I can't do it
- 37:31Speaker 1: by myself. Yeah, well, you certainly don't get any help
- 37:34Speaker 1: most of the time from the the conductor. Yeah, driver,
- 37:40Speaker 1: Yeah we should we should know this. I would think conductor,
- 37:44Speaker 1: ticket taker, ticket taker. Uh. And then New York ranks
- 37:48Speaker 1: number seven and ridership in the world. Uh, Tokyo is first, Moscow, Beijing, Shanghai,
- 37:54Speaker 1: soul Ah Quangs. How where's that China is it? I
- 38:01Speaker 1: would imagine, Well, I mean that's a Chinese word. I
- 38:04Speaker 1: just haven't heard of that. Paris, Mexico City in Hong Kong,
- 38:08Speaker 1: London is not even in the top ten. And and
- 38:11Speaker 1: that's the number one UM. But you know why, because
- 38:16Speaker 1: World War two happened, and everybody got cars afterwards, and
- 38:20Speaker 1: a lot of subway lines just kind of fell into disrepair,
- 38:22Speaker 1: and like a whole generation was raised without really using subways. Yeah,
- 38:27Speaker 1: and black cabs are so roomy and private, but not
- 38:30Speaker 1: just in London, in UM the in the United States especially.
- 38:33Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, because we talked about the l A
- 38:36Speaker 1: H and why the cars become the predominant form of
- 38:39Speaker 1: transportation um number of miles traveled by an average subway
- 38:44Speaker 1: car um in between repairs in New York that was
- 38:48Speaker 1: seven thousand, two thousand, eleven hundred and seventy two. But
- 38:53Speaker 1: I think that means they're taking better care of them,
- 38:56Speaker 1: not that they're just chirking the responsibilities New York in
- 39:00Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, all the subways combined traveled three hundred
- 39:04Speaker 1: forty two million miles, and in total, New York's four
- 39:09Speaker 1: hundred sixty eight stations are only sixty fewer than the
- 39:13Speaker 1: rest of the subway systems in the United States combined. Wow,
- 39:17Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's my favorite. And end to end they
- 39:21Speaker 1: always have these. If you laid the tracks end to
- 39:23Speaker 1: end New York cities would go from New York to Chicago.
- 39:27Speaker 1: That's it. I thought for sure something now just New
- 39:31Speaker 1: York to Chicago. Yeah, I'm a little disappointed in the
- 39:35Speaker 1: lowest station. If you've ever felt a little weird a
- 39:37Speaker 1: hundred ninety first Street in Manhattan, that's because you are
- 39:42Speaker 1: hundred and eighty feet below ground. That crazy probably shift.
- 39:47Speaker 1: It ran into a shift problem. The lady to go down.
- 39:50Speaker 1: You should tell people what that is. Well, it's very
- 39:52Speaker 1: hard rock. It's a metamorphic rocks. The flake rather than break,
- 39:57Speaker 1: so it's very hard to get through. That's my motto,
- 40:00Speaker 1: flake don't break. Right. We came up with like three
- 40:03Speaker 1: mottos and catchphrases in this one cut and cover, flake
- 40:06Speaker 1: don't break. And I guess don't take the C train?
- 40:10Speaker 1: Is that maybe? And the C train is like it's
- 40:13Speaker 1: insult to injury because I think the A, C and
- 40:15Speaker 1: E or like the blue line, and the A and
- 40:18Speaker 1: the E are doing pretty well, and the sea is
- 40:20Speaker 1: like the ugly step child. Where is it? Where? Oh,
- 40:24Speaker 1: it goes all over like you can get it down
- 40:26Speaker 1: in the West Village and then I believe it goes
- 40:28Speaker 1: north and then cuts over somewhere around Midtown, then goes
- 40:31Speaker 1: up the East side. I think it doesn't go into Brooklyn.
- 40:35Speaker 1: I don't think so, is it the L train? I
- 40:38Speaker 1: don't remember. You know more than I do. Man, I
- 40:41Speaker 1: just I miss the old and I guess they still
- 40:43Speaker 1: have some, but the old red like the seven train
- 40:45Speaker 1: I remember had those old red trains that look like trains.
- 40:49Speaker 1: They didn't look like subways. I don't they look like
- 40:52Speaker 1: regular locomotives to me. I like my subways to look
- 40:55Speaker 1: like subways. Trains should look like trains. Smells like poop gum.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Apparently in New York the gum is so bad and
- 41:02Speaker 1: some that you can lose your shoe. I can see
- 41:05Speaker 1: that you can actually get mired in the gum. Um.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Have you got anything else? Give up your seat for
- 41:12Speaker 1: the ladies. That's what I gotta say. That's a big one. Um. Yeah,
- 41:17Speaker 1: good going, Chuck. That's a fine ending. If you want
- 41:20Speaker 1: to learn more about subway etiquette and the tunnel boring
- 41:23Speaker 1: machine and the cover method, you can type in subways
- 41:27Speaker 1: SU beat W A Y S into the search bar
- 41:29Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com and it'll bring up
- 41:31Speaker 1: this fine article by Tracy V. Wilson. Uh. And since
- 41:35Speaker 1: I said search bar, it's time for listening to now. Uh,
- 41:40Speaker 1: this one was an anniversary of UM two two young
- 41:45Speaker 1: people in love. Okay, we had something to do with that. Okay,
- 41:49Speaker 1: guys have never written in before. I just thought I
- 41:51Speaker 1: would be appropriate. Uh, seeing as my boyfriend and I
- 41:54Speaker 1: are celebrating our three year anniversary. Is partly due to you, guys.
- 41:58Speaker 1: A few years back, Nathan was trying and failing to
- 42:01Speaker 1: win over my heart, and then he began striking up
- 42:04Speaker 1: conversations about the weirdest things like abandoned cities, blood pressure,
- 42:07Speaker 1: and robots. I found this odd at first, but then
- 42:11Speaker 1: began to love this quirk of his. It's like she's
- 42:14Speaker 1: been in love with us, let's get real. Yeah, but Nathan,
- 42:17Speaker 1: he brought up the blood pressure episode. Well that's what
- 42:20Speaker 1: she says, That's what she said. Uh, long story short,
- 42:25Speaker 1: he ended up winning me over. Not long ago. I
- 42:27Speaker 1: was poking around his iTunes library. Oh yeah, that's dangerous, uh,
- 42:32Speaker 1: and discovered the source of his information YouTube. We both
- 42:35Speaker 1: love the show now and sometimes sneak out of our
- 42:37Speaker 1: houses to make spontaneous midnight trips to McDonald's and listen
- 42:41Speaker 1: to your show while eating Big Max in the car
- 42:43Speaker 1: and young love so sweet like that sweet and terrible
- 42:46Speaker 1: for your arteries. Uh. From time to time, I'll make
- 42:49Speaker 1: him pancakes for dinner. Uh, and we'll listen. I love
- 42:53Speaker 1: that and we'll listen as we Really, I do all
- 42:57Speaker 1: the cooking he does. However, get all agitated when I
- 43:00Speaker 1: where I mentioned that Chuck has a sexy voice. Came
- 43:03Speaker 1: to see him like throwing his pancakes and stuffing around
- 43:06Speaker 1: the apartment. Josh is sexy and that is from Monique
- 43:12Speaker 1: in California. And um, congratulations Monique and Nathan pancakes for dinner.
- 43:18Speaker 1: It's right. A couple of that listens to s Y
- 43:21Speaker 1: s K together stays together exactly. UM, let's see if
- 43:24Speaker 1: we brought you together. I want to hear about that,
- 43:26Speaker 1: right sure, Um, if we've brought you in a loved
- 43:29Speaker 1: one together or it's strange to you from your family,
- 43:32Speaker 1: either way, UM, we want to know about it. You
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