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Chuck & Buck 10-20 Hour 4: Hugh Millen's X's and O's, Mike Holmgren and one last thing. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Just happened to have at five o'clock Game seven of
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Speaker 1: the American League Championship Series being played tonight. We've been
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Speaker 1: talking about the Mariners all morning long, but we will
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Speaker 1: not ignore the Seahawks Monday night football matchup against the
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. And so Mike Holgern will join us at
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Speaker 1: nine point thirty this morning, and joining us now for
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Speaker 1: his normal x's and o's segment. It's our guy, the
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Speaker 1: QB one, Hugh Millen, Good morning, sir, what's happening? Good morning?
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Speaker 1: Oh everything, everything all at once, it is happening, no
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Speaker 1: time for anything else. You got a take on this
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Speaker 1: game seven to night.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, you guys are the experts. You guys are
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Speaker 2: doing a phenomenal job. You should get an Emmy or something.
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Speaker 2: So I just got a late person's take, which would be,
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Speaker 2: you know, think of an NFL football player.
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Speaker 1: You only play once a week.
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Speaker 2: There's just seventeen games, obviously, and you usually play in
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Speaker 2: front of a full stadium or nearly full, and there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of importance. And then when you get to
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, every game isn't out. It's like a seventh game.
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Speaker 2: So the Mariners are the equivalent of the of playing
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Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game tonight, and so a player,
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Speaker 2: you've already kind of been in those pressure situations. Now,
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Speaker 2: let's contrast that to baseball. The whole regular season, you're
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Speaker 2: playing in relatively insignificant games, not any one game. An
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Speaker 2: NFL player has the weight of ten baseball games. A
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Speaker 2: baseball player on any one game when he goes to
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Speaker 2: the park for three hours, he can say, well, you know, look,
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Speaker 2: if I don't play real well, there's not a lot
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Speaker 2: of weight to it. And then when you get to
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, you know, usually there's another playoff game. You
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Speaker 2: rarely get into a deciding game. So for the Mariners
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Speaker 2: to be in the seventh game, there is no professional
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Speaker 2: athlete that has a bigger delta that jump between how
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Speaker 2: he usually goes park and the weight that is on
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Speaker 2: the game when he usually goes to the park to
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Speaker 2: what the Mariners have tonight. Every one of those players
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Speaker 2: knows that the Mariners have never been to the World Series.
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Speaker 2: You say, well, what about the seventh game of the
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Speaker 2: World Series. Yeah, most circumstances, But I think for the
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Speaker 2: Mariners uniquely tonight, they they know that if they make
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Speaker 2: the World Series this is a successful season. They've got
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Speaker 2: to know that. And even if they were to lose,
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Speaker 2: hell if they if they go, they're gonna be underdogs
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Speaker 2: to the Dodgers. I think in a way they might
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Speaker 2: be looser in a seventh game of the World Series
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Speaker 2: than they would be tonight. There's a hell of a
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Speaker 2: lot of pressure, and so to me, I would just say,
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Speaker 2: don't think about who's the better team. Stop talking about
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Speaker 2: who's the better team. It doesn't matter. The only thing
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Speaker 2: that matters tonight is who is clutch. Somebody is gonna
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Speaker 2: be a clutch player tonight, and somebody is gonna be
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Speaker 2: a relative goat. I don't want to know say the
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Speaker 2: whole game falls on them, but somebody's gonna have. People
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Speaker 2: are gonna have good games tonight and see people are
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Speaker 2: gonna poor games tonight.
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Speaker 1: Obviously we hope it's it's the mirrors, but.
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Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's it's all about who is clutch.
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Speaker 1: And we're gonna find out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I mean, I'm kind of on that topic.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you played in some big games, right, You'll
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Speaker 3: you'll demean and you'll talk down about how you were
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Speaker 3: a backup guy and whatnot. But I know you played
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Speaker 3: in some big games whatever, but you still you played
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Speaker 3: in some big games in your life. You were parts
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Speaker 3: of that. And yet I mean, knowing you, I know
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Speaker 3: how cerebral you are, how much you think about what
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Speaker 3: it is you're supposed to be thinking about, and so
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Speaker 3: what type of mindset, how how would you think is
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Speaker 3: the best way to try to arrive at being clutch
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Speaker 3: in that moment? I mean, what is the thing that
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Speaker 3: you have to kind of channel to hopefully find yourself
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Speaker 3: in the zone when when the pressure gets the toughest.
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Speaker 2: I think everybody processes it differently. I think some really
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Speaker 2: look at it and they say, hey, yes, this is
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Speaker 2: the uh, this is the the crucible of pressure.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 2: Tell me that the whole world is watching, and tell
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Speaker 2: in fact, tell me, tell me they're watching in the
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Speaker 2: Southern hemisphere, like I want it all. Some guys just
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Speaker 2: they'll say, hey, you know, I want to I want
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Speaker 2: to bring it back to normalcy. What what if this
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Speaker 2: was just a spring training game and it's just me
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Speaker 2: against the pitcher, then you know, how would I, well,
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Speaker 2: I'd break against this guy if it was spring training.
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Speaker 2: So let's just try and have the attitude. So I
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Speaker 2: think I think different athletes just process it differently in
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Speaker 2: that regard, and you're going to have a lot of
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Speaker 2: guys that that are trying to say, hey, I relish this.
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Speaker 2: There's gonna be guys that are going to be trying
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Speaker 2: in their mind to diminish, Hey, it's no big deal.
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Speaker 2: It's just like a game in May, and you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, I just think that's the nature. But I
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Speaker 2: do think it is noteworthy that baseball players, for the
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Speaker 2: reasons I've stated, they have a bigger vault that they
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Speaker 2: are not used to going to the park and walking
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Speaker 2: into that locker room and getting dressed. They are not
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Speaker 2: used to having this kind of wait, at least in
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Speaker 2: terms of relative to other athletes and other team sports.
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Speaker 2: And so it's really not about who's the best team.
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Speaker 2: It's about who is going to be clutched in the
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Speaker 2: moment with us. Yeah, and we don't know it until
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Speaker 2: we don't know it until we see it.
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Speaker 1: Ur QB one. Yes, we got a Monday night football
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Speaker 1: game tonight, Seahawks taking on the Texans, along with every
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Speaker 1: other game in the world apparently being played tonight as well.
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Speaker 1: So let's dive into this Monday Night affair. What stands
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Speaker 1: out to you as the pivotal aspect of this matchup?
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let's talk about the Texans. This
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Speaker 2: was a team that in twenty twenty two, where's three
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Speaker 2: and thirteen, they got the second pick in the draft
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Speaker 2: draft after Bryce Young went to Carolina. They pick up CJ.
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Speaker 2: Stroud and they trade so they got the second pick
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Speaker 2: in the draft, and they pick up Will Anderson, the
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Speaker 2: great linebacker with a third pick, so they get the
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Speaker 2: second and third pick. Then they go that next year
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, they go ten and seven, and they
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Speaker 2: went ten and seven last year, so a huge vault,
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Speaker 2: right with a new coach as well. And I just
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Speaker 2: look at them now, they're two and three, but they're
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Speaker 2: off of two wins. They've got to buy. If you
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Speaker 2: look at the AFC in that division, the Colts are
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Speaker 2: six and one. Let's assume they're running away from it.
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Speaker 2: But from a wildcard standpoint, the Bills are would be
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Speaker 2: the number one wildcard right now at four and two.
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Speaker 2: Then you've got four other teams that have three losses,
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Speaker 2: and the Texans are one of them. So in their mind,
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Speaker 2: we look at two and three, we say you're not
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Speaker 2: even a five hundred team. In their mind, they are
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Speaker 2: right equal with a playoff team. And so they're going
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Speaker 2: to come in here. And this is the part that
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Speaker 2: I want to say concerns you, but it sure as
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Speaker 2: hell gets your attention. Number One defensively and fewest points
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Speaker 2: allowed at twelve point two Seattle. We think of seattleven
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Speaker 2: a damn good defense. They're at nine. They're at sixth
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Speaker 2: in the NFL with nineteen and a half. So there's
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Speaker 2: a touchdown less that the Texans. The yards the Texans
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Speaker 2: are third, the first downs on defense, first downs allowed fourth.
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Speaker 2: I look at I go to the NFL stat portal
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Speaker 2: and I just I just look at page after page
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Speaker 2: on the website. It would be too many to discuss
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Speaker 2: it in a segment like this or another segment.
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Speaker 1: How many stats.
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Speaker 2: They're in the top five defensively, and so they've got
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Speaker 2: a hell they got a hell of a front four.
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Speaker 2: They they play mostly zone defense. In Cover one, which
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Speaker 2: is man and man, their twentieth. In Cover zero, which
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Speaker 2: is an aggressive man and man with no free safety,
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Speaker 2: they're twenty ninth. But the percent of the time where
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Speaker 2: they have five rushers, they're fifth in the league. What
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Speaker 2: does that tell me? So they're a zone team, but
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Speaker 2: they rush five five is a blue that's a lot
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Speaker 2: of zone dogs. They want to fool you. So for
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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, he got an extra day of preparation. You
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Speaker 2: cannot be fueled. A year ago. You had Justin Herbert,
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Speaker 2: the only quarterback in the history of the NFL, more
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Speaker 2: interceptions in one playoff game than he had had the
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Speaker 2: entire regular season. He had three interceptions in the regular season,
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Speaker 2: four in the playoff game. So that zone blitz that
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Speaker 2: are reflected in the numbers that I said has got
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Speaker 2: to be something that that.
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Speaker 1: You're prepared for.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're talking about the way in which
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Speaker 3: their defense, where they rank number one obviously, and the
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Speaker 3: points allowed and whatnot. I was looking through some stuff
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Speaker 3: and and you know there, I think fifth in passing
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Speaker 3: yards allowed and they've only given up three touchdown passes
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Speaker 3: through six games.
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty low number.
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Speaker 3: They're rushing numbers against are pretty good as well, And
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Speaker 3: so I'm kind of wondering where your thoughts at as
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Speaker 3: far as is this a game where they have to
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Speaker 3: rush the ball effectively against this team because of the
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Speaker 3: fact that they don't give up a whole heck of
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Speaker 3: a lot in the passing game.
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Speaker 1: Either, Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 2: But I think that Seattle has been able to put
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Speaker 2: up points without rushing the ball. That's just a testimony
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Speaker 2: to how good of a season Sam Darnold's had. I
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Speaker 2: think that when you look at there's I don't see
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Speaker 2: a lot of defensive lines that have the ratings. H
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Speaker 2: you know it's you got. You've got Rankins, Sheldon Rankins,
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Speaker 2: and Tim Settle as the defensive tackles. We mentioned Will
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Speaker 2: Anderson the third overall pick. He's he's got a lot
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Speaker 2: of juice. He's going to be over Lucas. I think
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Speaker 2: you got to protect him. But then you know, on
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Speaker 2: the other side, Daniel Hunter. Now, if if I'm assuming
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Speaker 2: you're a pretty good NFL fan, let's just make if
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Speaker 2: I told you that here's the top highest paid defensive ends.
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Speaker 2: If I told you Micah Parsons is number one, you're
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Speaker 2: not surprised. If I told you Tz Wats is number two,
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Speaker 2: you're not surprised. Miles Garrett's number three, You're not surprised.
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Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter's number four, not Will Anderson. Daniel Hunter for
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Speaker 2: the Texans is going over Charles Cross and then oh,
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Speaker 2: by the way, behind him are Max Crosby, Nick Moson,
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Speaker 2: Trey Henderson. You would you would expect all those guys.
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Speaker 2: So I think Daniel Hunter of those seven is the
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Speaker 2: guy you go hunt. Oh, I didn't know him, and
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Speaker 2: and so that front four, and then you take their secondary.
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Speaker 2: Now Stingley is the third overall pick, the corner on
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Speaker 2: on Seattle's right side. Uh, and then Kamari Lassiter, the
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Speaker 2: second rounder out of Georgia. I mean, they got talented corner.
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Speaker 2: The corners aren't probably playing to the level of their talent.
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Speaker 2: But then Jalen Petre's playing his ass off as a
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Speaker 2: nickel and a safety guy. So so I think that
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Speaker 2: they're Oh, by the way, they're middle linebacker. It seems
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Speaker 2: like every week Seattle's playing good middle linebackers. But but uh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's just there's a lot of talent out there.
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Speaker 1: But but I think it's it's the coaching.
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Speaker 2: And uh, when they brought in cjs Route, they also
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Speaker 2: they they lovey Smith is gone and they've got They've
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Speaker 2: got Demiko Ryans as a hell of a defensive coach.
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Speaker 2: They are tied together. As you said, I'm more impressed
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Speaker 2: with the coaching when I see a team that plays zoned,
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Speaker 2: because you have to play more as a unit as
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Speaker 2: opposed to man to man, and and so in that regard,
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Speaker 2: there's some similarities between the Texans defensively and what Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonald has done with Baltimore and Seattle.
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Speaker 1: Hu melanis Weather's our QB one x'es and o's segments
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Speaker 1: here on a Monday with a Monday night football game
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Speaker 1: being played tonight at Looming Field against the Houston Texans.
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Speaker 1: But it's been such a busy week. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: a week in which Hugh Millan's Washington Husky's faced as
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Speaker 1: mister Millons Michigan Wolverines. Yeah, over the weekend, and so
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Speaker 1: obviously did not go the way of the dogs. What's
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Speaker 1: your take from that Saturday debacle.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just kind of thinking about Jedfish today and
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering whether Saturday, on that plane ride and yesterday
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Speaker 2: was add or near the bottom of his just his
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Speaker 2: mood at lowest point of his coaching career. Maybe maybe
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Speaker 2: certainly head coaching for the following reasons. So he's on
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Speaker 2: record as having said that he'd be very intrigued by
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Speaker 2: the Florida job, he wears a advisor as an homagi
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Speaker 2: to Steve Spurrier. He has said it'd be very hard
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Speaker 2: to turn that away. So the Florida jobs, as most
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Speaker 2: no came open. Billy Napier got fired yesterday. I'm theorizing
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Speaker 2: that he wants that job, and he could have reasonably
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Speaker 2: thought that he was a candidate for that job. And
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Speaker 2: so now going back to ann Arbor at this time,
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Speaker 2: when when Florida is considering different candidates to go back
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Speaker 2: and only score seven points against a good but not
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Speaker 2: great Michigan team and lose by seventeen, and then furthermore,
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Speaker 2: it's the way they did it because his prize pupil,
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Speaker 2: Demond Williams. We all love Demond Williams, we all see
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Speaker 2: his talent. And yet a year ago, let's say on
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Speaker 2: November eleventh, a year ago, after playing Penn State, this
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Speaker 2: is what Jedfish said. He goes quote and now when
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Speaker 2: demand gets in there next year, meaning this year, he's
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Speaker 2: going to have the experience of playing in a white
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Speaker 2: out in front of one hundred and seven thousand, He's
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Speaker 2: going to have the experience of what does it feel
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Speaker 2: like to try and make a slant throat into tight
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Speaker 2: coverage on fourth and fifth and be able to draw
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Speaker 2: from that experience end quote that there's some irony there
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Speaker 2: because you were you played demand at sometimes at awkward
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Speaker 2: times a year ago, and maybe the senior senior players
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Speaker 2: were grousing like, hey, are we playing for twenty twenty four?
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Speaker 2: We plan for the future. And so Demon Williams was
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Speaker 2: given that experience for Saturday's game against Michigan. And the
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Speaker 2: irony is that he had he had spoken to Now
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Speaker 2: it wasn't fourth and a five this past Saturday, and
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Speaker 2: it wasn't a white out, but it wasn't front. It
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Speaker 2: was in front of one hundred and seven thousand, and
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Speaker 2: the critical interception the base when it was the score
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Speaker 2: was tied seven to seven, and it was essentially a
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Speaker 2: pick six that was a slant route and which which
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Speaker 2: against Fish had commented on that particular route a year ago.
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Speaker 2: And both of those interceptions, the first two interceptions that
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Speaker 2: were on first and ten, the first one was a
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Speaker 2: slant route. He just didn't see the will linebacker. That
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Speaker 2: was a good good play for that defense. You just
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Speaker 2: you got to in and out high low that will
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Speaker 2: linebacker and and he didn't see him. So that's on
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Speaker 2: Demon Williams. The second interception was called why stick? That
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Speaker 2: is the most ubiquitous. I was literally coaching that in
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Speaker 2: seventh grade. It's all over high school call in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: That concept. It's been around for a long damn time.
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Speaker 2: And you don't want to run that against a five
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Speaker 2: hundred two deep z. So so wink what Martinel the
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Speaker 2: defeats defensive coordinator for Michigan. He out coached him on
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Speaker 2: that play. And then the confusion where the tight ends
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Speaker 2: breaking out and Demon Williams is expecting him to hook apparently.
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Speaker 2: You know when I coach that, I was like, hey,
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Speaker 2: tight end, if you're going to hook it up in
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Speaker 2: the zone, then turn inside. If you're going to break
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Speaker 2: away from that, what's called the third defender, you count
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Speaker 2: outside end. If you're going to break away from the
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Speaker 2: number three, then then you break to the outside. And
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Speaker 2: then there's there is a a cohesion, an understanding between
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Speaker 2: quarterback and receiver and so on that play. The second interception, Uh,
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Speaker 2: Washington out coached and so I think it's a I
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Speaker 2: think it was really a probably a disillusioning plane ride going.
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Speaker 2: We just scored seven points and the damn Florida jobs
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Speaker 2: open and DeMont Williams just threw it three interceptions. And
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Speaker 2: I thought we had groomed him so that he this
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Speaker 2: would be the type of game he could take over.
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Speaker 2: And he still has yet to have a quality win
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Speaker 2: against a good opponent.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's beat beat, beat up on, beat up
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Speaker 2: mightily on the feeble. But Demond Williams has yet to
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Speaker 2: have that signature win. And don't tell me the Louisville game.
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Speaker 2: When they missed their start. You know, their their starting
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Speaker 2: quarterback bout out for the Bowl. Their second string went
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Speaker 2: in the transferred poll, their their best defense, and they
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Speaker 2: had got their their best defensive dB. Everybody pulling out
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Speaker 2: of that game. That was You watched that tape. It
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Speaker 2: looked like there was eight guys playing defense for Louisvill.
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Speaker 2: So don't tell me the Bowl game. He's got to
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Speaker 2: have a win like he should have had on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: That's why you played him a year ago. And so
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Speaker 2: at an event, I think that it's a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a sobering experience for Jed Fish trying to get
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Speaker 2: over that game.
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Speaker 1: Well to night, we got to enjoy the craziness of this.
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Speaker 2: It is yeah, crazy, it can be well tomorrow, you
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Speaker 2: guys are going to kill it again no matter what happens.
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Speaker 1: So keep up the good work. All right. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: to you now too. Well all right, r QB one
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millan and he will be with us tomorrow whether
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Speaker 1: the Mariners winn or lose. To spend some time on
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks and their game against the Texans tonight, we
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Speaker 1: will spend a little bit more time on it with
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Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren, who joins us next Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: Hi, Yes, coach, o'ma joins us here on this Monday,
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Speaker 1: So much going on around these here on parts. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and yet we do have a Monday night football game.
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Speaker 1: We haven't talked to coaching a little while. We miss him,
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Speaker 1: and so here he is with us on Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, sir, Good morning Chuck. How's it going? All right?
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Speaker 5: Going?
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Speaker 1: All right? What do you think? What do you think
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Speaker 1: about Game seven tonight? What's your gut feel? What are
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Speaker 1: you feeling? Oh?
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Speaker 5: Well, the Marriers are gonna do it. It's gonna be exciting.
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Speaker 5: Uh uh, they got it. It's been so good and
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Speaker 5: then last night it just, uh, you know, it got
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Speaker 5: away from him. So see how the pitching is. That's
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Speaker 5: the big thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like, do you get you in that clubhouse? Maybe?
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Speaker 1: Uh meal, little pep talk.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think, you know, Dan, Dan seems to
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Speaker 5: be able to get him going, so you know, we
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Speaker 5: hope he does it again.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think a holmgrun fire needs to
18:55
Speaker 1: be unders I couldn't hurt. Yeah, that's what I think.
18:59
Speaker 1: What do you what do you chart out as the
19:02
Speaker 1: key to this thing tonight? Going up against a great
19:05
Speaker 1: defense in Houston.
19:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's gonna be It could be a
19:09
Speaker 5: low scoring game. And they you know, Houston has a
19:12
Speaker 5: good defense, a good line up front. So the matchup
19:17
Speaker 5: between the offensive line for the Seahawks and the upfront
19:20
Speaker 5: for the for the Texans is going to be the
19:23
Speaker 5: deciding factor, I think. So I hope a lot of
19:25
Speaker 5: play action. That's what I'm hoping for.
19:27
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna go with.
19:29
Speaker 3: It was the play action, and yet they haven't really
19:32
Speaker 3: ran the ball super effectively, and yet the play action
19:35
Speaker 3: still works. So being the offensive mastermind that you are,
19:39
Speaker 3: is do you do you have to establish.
19:42
Speaker 1: The run or is it no?
19:44
Speaker 3: Just run it a couple of times and then do
19:46
Speaker 3: what's been working more often than not, even though you
19:49
Speaker 3: know you're going up against a defense that doesn't give
19:51
Speaker 3: up a bunch running or passing.
19:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, it always helps when you can
19:55
Speaker 5: establish the runner for your playpack, play pass game. But
19:59
Speaker 5: I think the just have to come out and call things,
20:02
Speaker 5: you know, throw it on first down, call your game
20:06
Speaker 5: a little differently, you know, to keep the defense off
20:08
Speaker 5: balance because they've got a good defense. So that's what
20:11
Speaker 5: I'm hoping to see.
20:12
Speaker 1: Mike Comrian with US says, the Seahawks take on the
20:15
Speaker 1: Houston Texans here this evening, What is your take on
20:20
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud? He got off to such a great
20:22
Speaker 1: start as an NFL quarterback, and then maybe a little
20:25
Speaker 1: bit of a sophomore slump a year ago, even though
20:28
Speaker 1: he still helped his team get into the playoffs, and
20:30
Speaker 1: then this year off to a little bit of a
20:33
Speaker 1: slow start. A lot of people thought he was going
20:34
Speaker 1: to have a rebound. So what's your read on CJ.
20:38
Speaker 1: Stroud as he plays in his third year in the NFL.
20:42
Speaker 5: Well, I think he's kind of hot and cold. He's
20:45
Speaker 5: not real consistent right now. But he's really a talented guy.
20:48
Speaker 5: So when I watch him play, it looks like some
20:50
Speaker 5: of the decision making physically he's got everything okay, But
20:55
Speaker 5: typically with quarterbacks and you guys know this, you know
20:58
Speaker 5: their decision making and how they redefense is how they
21:01
Speaker 5: prepare for the game. Even the great physical talent doesn't
21:05
Speaker 5: get you through things unless you prepare properly, unless you understand,
21:09
Speaker 5: really understand what you're trying to do and every pass.
21:12
Speaker 5: So that's what I see. I see at a little bit,
21:18
Speaker 5: not throwing it on time, making some bad decisions on occasion.
21:22
Speaker 5: Otherwise he's got everything. I really love to have this
21:26
Speaker 5: guy on my team.
21:27
Speaker 1: What do they have to do the Seahawks?
21:29
Speaker 3: I mean, is it just as simple as win to
21:31
Speaker 3: try to get over this hump? A little bit of
21:35
Speaker 3: the home field advantage? I mean it used to be
21:37
Speaker 3: back you know, you kind of brought that thing here
21:39
Speaker 3: and it was the worst place to come play.
21:42
Speaker 1: Nobody liked doing it.
21:42
Speaker 3: And yet they're going on the road and winning left
21:45
Speaker 3: and right, but finding it more difficult to do at home.
21:47
Speaker 1: What do they got to change?
21:50
Speaker 5: Well, you know, Buck, it's a puzzle, honestly, because we
21:53
Speaker 5: talk about it each week. It seems like and and
21:56
Speaker 5: they you have such an advantage, the team has such
21:59
Speaker 5: an advance, and that advantage should equate to wins. And
22:06
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, I mean I was even
22:08
Speaker 5: thinking if I do they stay in hotels and that
22:12
Speaker 5: before the game? Do they let them stay home? I
22:14
Speaker 5: don't know what they do, but I always said, if
22:17
Speaker 5: I can control them at home, I'm going to control them.
22:19
Speaker 5: So they're going to stay in the hotel, I'm going
22:21
Speaker 5: to check them for bedcheck, and then we're going to
22:23
Speaker 5: go to the stadium. I don't know if they do that.
22:25
Speaker 5: If they do that, fine, but there's something that they're
22:29
Speaker 5: not taking advantage of. And so to your point, they
22:34
Speaker 5: got to win. They got to win big at home
22:36
Speaker 5: and get them rolling that way and get them using
22:39
Speaker 5: the crowd and the fans will react accordingly.
22:42
Speaker 1: You know, coach and the National Football League quarterbacks, if
22:46
Speaker 1: they get off to a rough start in their careers,
22:49
Speaker 1: they tend to get put to the back of the line.
22:53
Speaker 1: But we've seen a couple of guys Baker Mayfield and
22:57
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold with the Seahawks that are kind of taking
23:01
Speaker 1: that rich Gannon approach. Like something clicked here in the
23:04
Speaker 1: last couple of years. I don't know what it is.
23:07
Speaker 1: Maybe you can tell me. What is it that like
23:10
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback who's not really found his success until
23:15
Speaker 1: later in life, what tends to kick in? What do
23:19
Speaker 1: they tend to have in common when it finally does
23:22
Speaker 1: start to go well?
23:24
Speaker 5: I think, first of all, it's the combination, is the
23:26
Speaker 5: connected activity between the coach or the coordinator and the player.
23:32
Speaker 5: Because you know, we talked about it for as well.
23:34
Speaker 5: You know, you go to the Jets as your number
23:36
Speaker 5: one draft pick and a lot of expectations, It's New
23:39
Speaker 5: York and it doesn't work, and all of a sudden,
23:41
Speaker 5: you go into a little bit of a slump, saying,
23:43
Speaker 5: maybe I wasn't as good as I thought it was.
23:46
Speaker 5: But then you get with the right coach, the right program,
23:49
Speaker 5: surrounded by some people that can really play, and then
23:53
Speaker 5: you're calling the game to his strength, and all of
23:55
Speaker 5: a sudden you get to be more effective. And then
23:58
Speaker 5: it builds your confidence and you become the player that
24:02
Speaker 5: you were supposed to be, and you know, you see
24:05
Speaker 5: it and at Baker Mayfield's a great example of that.
24:09
Speaker 5: Sam Donald's is a great example of that. He finally
24:12
Speaker 5: had a place. Well, I think he went to the
24:15
Speaker 5: place last year, so he got a good, good situation
24:19
Speaker 5: in Minnesota. Look at Minnesota now, I mean they're struggling
24:23
Speaker 5: a little bit with their quarterback situation because of injury.
24:26
Speaker 5: But with those guys that come into your program, and
24:29
Speaker 5: you know that when you get one of those guys
24:32
Speaker 5: and then you say, okay, I always saw it throwing
24:36
Speaker 5: complete caution to the win. Just give me somebody, give
24:41
Speaker 5: me somebody with physical talents, and I can help him
24:43
Speaker 5: be the best he can be. And I think that's
24:45
Speaker 5: how you have to approach it. And then then you
24:47
Speaker 5: get the kid to buy in and then you got something.
24:51
Speaker 1: Coach, obviously.
24:52
Speaker 3: I mean, even after this week, they're going to have
24:54
Speaker 3: ten weeks of football, so long ways to go. But
24:56
Speaker 3: how important do you feel it is for them to
24:59
Speaker 3: keep with the forty nine ers and Rams considering if
25:03
Speaker 3: they win this one, they'll still be tied record wise
25:06
Speaker 3: anyways with them versus fallowing the game behind.
25:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think it's this game is really important, Buck.
25:12
Speaker 5: It's really important because the forty nine ers are doing
25:16
Speaker 5: it even though they're quarterbacks. A lot of people are hurt.
25:19
Speaker 5: But it's going to go down to the wire in
25:21
Speaker 5: the division, in my opinion, it's going to be really close.
25:24
Speaker 5: So every single game is important, and this game in
25:27
Speaker 5: particular because then they have the buy I think next week, right, yep, yep, yeah,
25:33
Speaker 5: so going into the buy, kind of regroup, get the
25:35
Speaker 5: injury guys back, and then play the rest of the season.
25:39
Speaker 5: But listen, we thought they were going to be pretty good,
25:42
Speaker 5: but they're they're pretty good. I mean, they're doing fine,
25:45
Speaker 5: But this game, this game tonight is really important for
25:48
Speaker 5: all the reasons you mentioned, not the downplay at all,
25:53
Speaker 5: win at home, get it going at home, and then
25:55
Speaker 5: you can see a really bright future. You know.
25:59
Speaker 1: When you were at coach of the Seahawks, you were
26:02
Speaker 1: here for each your omania, the record setting a regular
26:06
Speaker 1: season that the Mariners had, and uh, of course World
26:10
Speaker 1: Series dreams, and so what what is that like to
26:14
Speaker 1: be the football team in town that usually gets the
26:16
Speaker 1: most attention.
26:18
Speaker 5: Uh?
26:18
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you know, you start
26:21
Speaker 1: sharing that stage, if not handing the stage over to
26:24
Speaker 1: the local baseball team in town. What was that experience
26:27
Speaker 1: like for you? And uh? And and what is the
26:31
Speaker 1: what is it like for the players?
26:34
Speaker 5: I didn't like it. It put a lot of pressure on me,
26:36
Speaker 5: you know, No, I I you know, I gotta. I
26:41
Speaker 5: got a chance to visit with all the managers, not
26:45
Speaker 5: not this year, but when when I was coaching, and
26:48
Speaker 5: we kind of had a mutual respect and mutual relationship
26:52
Speaker 5: and I was rooting for them all the way and
26:53
Speaker 5: they knew that. And so yeah, this is it's you
26:57
Speaker 5: just you're happy for them. You're happy for them, You're
26:59
Speaker 5: happy for the fans. This is a really exciting deal.
27:03
Speaker 5: And if they go to the World Series, oh my goodness.
27:05
Speaker 1: You know.
27:05
Speaker 5: But I went to went to church yesterday and I
27:08
Speaker 5: had guys come up to me. I was at the game.
27:10
Speaker 5: I was at the game, you know game. I said, Okay,
27:13
Speaker 5: calm down, we still got a little to play here.
27:15
Speaker 1: You know, I want to.
27:17
Speaker 5: How about you mean football? No, not football?
27:23
Speaker 1: Uh well it's fun, there's no question about it. So
27:27
Speaker 1: get out the popcorn tonight, you know, yes, and enjoy yourself.
27:32
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a lot of stuff to choose from.
27:34
Speaker 1: You got your cracking hockey at four o'clock. That's when
27:36
Speaker 1: I get started, and then you got baseball at five,
27:39
Speaker 1: and you got football at seven. So just buckle in,
27:43
Speaker 1: get your snacks ready.
27:45
Speaker 5: No, I'm in fact, I'm taking some pressure off Catthy tonight.
27:49
Speaker 5: I'm making ribs. You're making ribs, coleslaw, and garlic mashed potatoes.
27:54
Speaker 1: Those three, all right? So Bucky and I are broadcasting
27:58
Speaker 1: Hive from the Holme grins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:01
Speaker 5: I was hoping Buck you'd bring a little dip over,
28:03
Speaker 5: but I guess that's what could happen.
28:05
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm invited for all those fictions, I'll bring
28:08
Speaker 3: some elk dip for sure.
28:10
Speaker 1: They'll bring a vat bring a keg. You just go
28:12
Speaker 1: ta keg? All right, coach, Well, enjoy we'll talk to
28:16
Speaker 1: you tomorrow, right guy. Thanks, all right, Mike Homberan joining
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, prepping for Game seven. We're doing our
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Speaker 3: postgame show out at the snow Kwami Casino at the
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29:42
Speaker 3: before game time, ended up getting some wings. They were delicious,
29:46
Speaker 3: But I figured out what I'm doing today. Oh, I
29:49
Speaker 3: got a meal that is guaranteed to get bring us
29:51
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29:53
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do such a thing.
29:54
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, I found it. It's like flashing out at me.
29:58
Speaker 3: It's called a squatch burger. I don't know if you
30:00
Speaker 3: looked at it.
30:00
Speaker 1: I think it's a playing off of a sasquatch because
30:03
Speaker 1: there's been a sack Watch. Maybe it is sack watchburger, sackwatchburger.
30:10
Speaker 1: I eat one of those, Okay, sackwatchburger. I think we're
30:13
Speaker 1: gonna win because we're on Sackwatch.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well it's called squatch, so sack squatch Burger. It's
30:19
Speaker 3: Hempler's bacon tillhm of cheddar, a fried egg, an onion
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Speaker 3: ring tomato. I'll probably lose that those are gross, Jalapeno
30:28
Speaker 3: dejon A's, and some house made pickles, and then I'm
30:32
Speaker 3: going to top it off with a brownie Sunday. Okay,
30:36
Speaker 3: it's called a game seven meal. First time to the
30:39
Speaker 3: World Series meal. I'm getting it.
30:43
Speaker 1: Good for you. I do love. By the way, I
30:46
Speaker 1: don't know who posts this, Maybe it was Ashley. Did
30:48
Speaker 1: you post the kh a R We have ten hours
30:51
Speaker 1: to go until the Mariners playing a game seven? Yeah?
30:53
Speaker 1: Was that your hand with a gift? That was a
30:55
Speaker 1: brilliant idea And the responses have been a ma and
31:00
Speaker 1: so representative of how I feel. Yeah, but they're all
31:03
Speaker 1: so different. You can tell that people are really tapping
31:06
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31:09
Speaker 1: a chance, that's so funny, like you get one gift
31:12
Speaker 1: to kind of or gift to represent how you're feeling
31:16
Speaker 1: right now about tonight's game, and the variety that we
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Speaker 1: got back is hilarious worth checking out and going through.
31:25
Speaker 1: Nice job, Ashley, Ryan, Oh thank you? What's your one
31:28
Speaker 1: last thing?
31:29
Speaker 6: So, of course the one game we haven't really mentioned
31:32
Speaker 6: much about the cracking game tonight.
31:34
Speaker 1: We've you know, just briefly talked about it.
31:35
Speaker 6: Because in the sea of things that are happening, it's
31:39
Speaker 6: early in their season, so there's not as much pressure.
31:41
Speaker 6: But Berkeley Catton is going to make his NHL debut
31:45
Speaker 6: tonight Berkeley, which is a pretty big deal. And Jared
31:47
Speaker 6: mccannon is out with a lore body injury, So there
31:50
Speaker 6: you go.
31:50
Speaker 1: I noticed those hockey guys they do with Berkeley Catton
31:54
Speaker 1: kind of what they do with cap O Cackle. They
31:56
Speaker 1: can't help it, they can't help, but just like, really
31:59
Speaker 1: pop it out there, Berkeley, especially that Mike Benton, Mike
32:03
Speaker 1: Ben's going to change both his kids' names to Berkeley Caton.
32:07
Speaker 6: He should.
32:08
Speaker 1: His head might explode if he did that. Watching baseball
32:11
Speaker 1: with Mike Benton, he takes everything so literally. Oh yeah,
32:15
Speaker 1: I uh so, Revos made that great play Friday night
32:19
Speaker 1: on the backhand up the middle, and I I go
32:24
Speaker 1: to speak around Benton to Bucky because he was sitting
32:27
Speaker 1: in between us, arose between two thorns. Oh yes, And
32:30
Speaker 1: I said, Plonko get that. I didn't say like the
32:34
Speaker 1: full sent Bucky goes no chance. Bucky knew exactly what
32:37
Speaker 1: I said. Does Polonco make that same play without having
32:41
Speaker 1: to say the entire thing. Benton goes, No, that was Revos. Oh,
32:46
Speaker 1: Mike Benton. I was like, thanks Mike, Yeah, we know
32:50
Speaker 1: who's out there. But well you missed the one later
32:52
Speaker 1: because later Wilson, Dan Wilson challenged the canzone home run
32:57
Speaker 1: down the left field line, and I will hell challenges that. Yeah,
33:01
Speaker 1: it seemed weird. That was Mike. He goes it was
33:03
Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, like, why are.
33:10
Speaker 6: You challenging that, especially someone who looks at it on
33:14
Speaker 6: video first?
33:16
Speaker 1: There was no reason to challenge none, none at all.
33:19
Speaker 3: That was Dan Wilson. You're the manager of the team.
33:22
Speaker 3: He does those things. He's the one on TV they
33:26
Speaker 3: show it. He puts his hands on his ears. Thanks Mike,
33:31
Speaker 3: Thanks hockey boy. Yeah, but yeah I missed it.
33:36
Speaker 1: Sorry, Dan. You can't just because you really want it
33:40
Speaker 1: to be a home run, you can't challenge it.
33:42
Speaker 6: You'd be like, you know what, I'm gonna challenge and
33:44
Speaker 6: they're like, you know what, Actually that was really close,
33:48
Speaker 6: So you have to have evidence that actually it should
33:52
Speaker 6: be overturned.
33:54
Speaker 1: All right, Well here we go Game number seven. My
33:57
Speaker 1: one last thing is, look, I know what Hugh just
33:59
Speaker 1: told me. He said, it's not going to come down
34:01
Speaker 1: tonight to who the better team is. It's going to
34:04
Speaker 1: come down to who's clutch. And I know that he's right,
34:07
Speaker 1: but when you make these kind of predictions beforehand, I
34:10
Speaker 1: just feel like we're the better team. And then seven games,
34:13
Speaker 1: that's all they're giving us. It's not a best of
34:15
Speaker 1: nineteen to really figure out who the better team is.
34:18
Speaker 1: Seven games. It's more than five. It's better than five,
34:20
Speaker 1: certainly better than three. Beats the hell out of one.
34:22
Speaker 1: So seven games is what they give us to try
34:25
Speaker 1: to prove that we're better. And the longer the series,
34:28
Speaker 1: the more opportunity that the better team emerges. And so yes,
34:31
Speaker 1: I do realize that one game isolated is going to
34:35
Speaker 1: come down to who comes through in the clutch. But
34:37
Speaker 1: I just think that the aggregate of the entire seven
34:40
Speaker 1: game series, the better team is going to prevail. I
34:42
Speaker 1: just think that we are doesn't look like we're playing
34:45
Speaker 1: better right now, but I do believe we are the
34:47
Speaker 1: better team. We've got the deeper pitching, which is going
34:50
Speaker 1: to come in handy tonight. So I'm just gonna stick
34:52
Speaker 1: with it. We're gonna take game number seven, We're gonna
34:55
Speaker 1: get it done. I'm going to tell you who's going
34:57
Speaker 1: to come through. It's Josh Naylor. Nails Nails is the game.
35:02
Speaker 1: It's going to come through in the big moment for
35:04
Speaker 1: us because I think he was born for it so
35:08
Speaker 1: and it's going to payoff. You have Gino come through
35:10
Speaker 1: on Friday in game five and Nayler to come through
35:14
Speaker 1: in game seven shows you how important it is to
35:17
Speaker 1: add the right pieces at the trading deadline and to
35:20
Speaker 1: be aggressive at the trading deadline. And it's going to
35:23
Speaker 1: be the difference. It's been the difference in US winning
35:26
Speaker 1: the division. It's going to be the difference in US
35:27
Speaker 1: getting to the World Series. That's my prediction.
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