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Prophetic Visions Gamefound Update Will You Choose the Light or Embrace the Darkness · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Long Casco broom lug downner rais and footbountains, the tarnst
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  Speaker 1: door bar lucking me, I dream it just don't know me.
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  Speaker 2: The barns and this guitar A long Casco.
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  Speaker 3: Prom But what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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  Speaker 3: the only, the w O Okay, I e joined here
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  Speaker 3: by the normal cast of misfits. We have this choke
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  Speaker 3: show draz Corp. Hey, guys, how's it going? We have
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  Speaker 3: the PhD of Keyboards, Doctor Sheep Hello, and the Ewakist
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  Speaker 3: of Ewoks Ewok Jr.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Keyboard community. Glad to be here all right?
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  Speaker 3: Time to go over all the things and stuff in
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  Speaker 3: the game found pledge.
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  Speaker 4: Will you guys know how we ask for uh information?
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  Speaker 3: Yep? They gave it to us in a week, in
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  Speaker 3: a three day spread. No, yeah, which it's that. I
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  Speaker 3: think they're trying to check their checkbox off for twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you got a quota running out of days
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  Speaker 1: left in the year, right, Marcles out there right, you're okay?
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  Speaker 1: Are for the year said that ye must release at
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  Speaker 1: least twenty five pieces of content to the public, and
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  Speaker 1: like shit, we're on three.
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  Speaker 5: Is this?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Is this like there is this like pieces of flair
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  Speaker 4: I must have.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta have seventeen pieces of flair.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think we're gonna institute that at next
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  Speaker 3: year's KFC. No, you must have x amount of number
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  Speaker 3: of pieces of flair, and then Sheep won't have it, right,
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  Speaker 3: because that's how he rolls, because he doesn't care us
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  Speaker 3: about anything. And and now we just have stuff and things.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was wearing three team outfits at the
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  Speaker 1: same time you sure were. I was wearing SaaS, I
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  Speaker 1: was Worried C, and I was wearing my locals redacted. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and which is pretty much ac basically at this point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got more than that. We've we've got the uh.
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  Speaker 1: We got a bunch of folks that don't come out
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  Speaker 1: to like vaults and stuff and just come to local stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So do you guys all wear your jerseys at like
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  Speaker 3: the local store.
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  Speaker 1: Only for like special events like store championship or something.
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  Speaker 3: So you all beat up at each other, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: So you are the assholes who are scaring all the
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  Speaker 3: new people away when they show up hard and they're
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  Speaker 3: the thirteenth person and twelve other people are all wearing
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  Speaker 3: the same jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Wookie, that that's all of us right now that
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  Speaker 4: are still in this campaign. By that, I mean playing keyboards.
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  Speaker 3: But speaking of a campaign, there were some announcements, So
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  Speaker 3: on the second we got the announcement of the Crucible
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  Speaker 3: Clash changes. So I'm just gonna read this paragraph. When
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  Speaker 3: we announced Crucible Clash last week, it was met with
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  Speaker 3: mixed reviews, with some of you, probably the nicest way
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  Speaker 3: to say it, well, some of you got you're making
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  Speaker 3: me break well, some of you got excited about the
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  Speaker 3: possibilities of a set like this could bring to the table.
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  Speaker 3: Many shared a similar sentiment that rang loud and clear.
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  Speaker 3: They're concerned around set legality and the usefulness of the deck.
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  Speaker 3: After the sealed event was over, we also said this
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  Speaker 3: about Menagerie. We also said this about Did we say
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  Speaker 3: this about I'm pretty sure we said this about Unchained?
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  Speaker 4: Oh sure.
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  Speaker 3: We intended Crucible Clash.
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  Speaker 5: To be a lie.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't truly know the problem with Unchained until it
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  Speaker 4: really came out a little bit later, and then it
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  Speaker 4: became very very clear, which is why, which is why
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  Speaker 4: the later versions.
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  Speaker 3: Because how much well how much Unchained and Menagerie do
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  Speaker 3: you have in your basement.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to admit because it's way too much.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how well, I was asking, ewok, but how much
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  Speaker 3: do you have? She now I want to know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I have monagerie. I got two
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  Speaker 5: menagerie a box of unchained on chain twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 5: I guess that's it, and that's still more than I
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  Speaker 5: would like to walk.
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  Speaker 3: How much you got?
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  Speaker 4: I have one box of unchained?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have a box of anagerie too?
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  Speaker 4: No? No, I did not get and I refused to get.
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  Speaker 3: That, and then dasco how much you got?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I have that much. I might have
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  Speaker 1: a deck or two left, but I think I opened
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  Speaker 1: all mine.
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  Speaker 4: I actually did the original unchained. I have the box
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  Speaker 4: that I got yeah to start with.
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  Speaker 1: So I was most the way through the unchained before
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  Speaker 1: I was like wait a second, and I just finished it.
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  Speaker 3: So well, the intended Crucipal clashould be legal against itself
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  Speaker 3: in a sealed environment. As stated during the reveal, we
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  Speaker 3: wanted to create the most fun environment with the most
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  Speaker 3: balanced play. When creating the set, we discussed balancing Crucipal
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  Speaker 3: Clash with all their sets, but found trying to balance
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  Speaker 3: the ARCM power the main opponent of the set against
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  Speaker 3: other sets would lead to less fun experience.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, I have a question for you, what what allows
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  Speaker 4: a game to be balanced?
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  Speaker 3: You are talking into philosophic philosophy design that I think
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  Speaker 3: it designs the time to go through today.
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  Speaker 4: A scale, So a scale a design staff and was
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  Speaker 4: the first one you said? Play testers or like a
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  Speaker 4: group testing? Okay? Interesting?
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  Speaker 3: Weird. Seeing the reaction and feedback during the reveal has
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  Speaker 3: revisits the discussion to see if we could come to
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  Speaker 3: an alternative that would lead to a fun experience. While
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  Speaker 3: the joy of the set will be most felt when
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  Speaker 3: going against itself due to the ARCon power, the decks
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  Speaker 3: are perfectly viable in other sets even without the use
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  Speaker 3: of the ARCon power. So after careful consideration, we have
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  Speaker 3: concluded Crucible Clash decks will be tournament legal and official
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  Speaker 3: ARCon and Alliance tournament formats without their ARCon power.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean no, this is given where we were,
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  Speaker 1: this is probably the best possible outcome because now there's
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  Speaker 1: potentially a reason to use these.
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  Speaker 3: I think you bet you missed a word there. You
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  Speaker 3: use the word word or use I think what you
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  Speaker 3: meant to say, was buy.
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  Speaker 4: By Well, but some people will will go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody is going to buy these if they are not
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  Speaker 3: tournament legal. They're going to get ever, is that they
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  Speaker 3: have to take because it's just part of the package. Right,
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  Speaker 3: It's like the it's like the home internet cable and
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  Speaker 3: home phone that you know Spectrum used to offer, like nobody.
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  Speaker 4: Fucking because it's bundled together.
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  Speaker 3: But because it's bundled together and you get it for
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  Speaker 3: like seven dollars a month, you have a home phone now, right, Like.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm more with drascor. I think that
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  Speaker 4: this was the best that we could hope from this scenario,
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  Speaker 4: and so I'm content with that. So I will say
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  Speaker 4: gg to gg on that one, making it, making it palpable.
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  Speaker 1: I added the three decks to my pledge.
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  Speaker 3: I did. Now do you think they just want to
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  Speaker 3: call the pledges are a little light?
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  Speaker 4: Well see, I actually had that to start with. What
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  Speaker 4: are pledge that I had screenshot earlier?
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  Speaker 3: And now I lost it got buried in our discord.
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  Speaker 4: No, dude, this is why I have ac show notes.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have jams chart? Hold on?
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  Speaker 1: Oh there are six hundred. It's literally right, there right now.
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  Speaker 3: Ye Jam's chart.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, Wookie, for those who are uninitiated, we have it here.
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  Speaker 4: We have six hundred and sixty six backers. There's four
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  Speaker 4: days left and we're sitting at one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 4: one thousan six hundred and thirty dollars, six.
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  Speaker 3: Hundred and sixty six backers. You say, mm.
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  Speaker 4: Hmmm, yeah, I what was interesting? I will say on
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  Speaker 4: the Game Found update, Yes, it is not as many
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  Speaker 4: as we have typically seen the number of backers. Little
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  Speaker 4: concerning what was the oddest thing happened this week and
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  Speaker 4: that there was a large pludge that was actually removed.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's about all that I took from our
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  Speaker 4: Game found this week. Was there a second one?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I heard, That's why I saw.
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  Speaker 3: I saw the one. I saw two. All that mentioned
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  Speaker 3: in chat. Now we need to go look. No, I
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  Speaker 3: saw the one that the one of the two thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars pledges was removed. Let's see if there's any.
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  Speaker 4: Available now, and I will say that.
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  Speaker 3: Or did they? Okay, I only saw God again? Probably
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  Speaker 3: did you really? I have no idea. That's a lie
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling people.
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  Speaker 4: Sticking to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have to circle back with Bama to
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  Speaker 1: see if he was joking or not, because he told
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  Speaker 1: me that he he grabbed the two thousand dollars pledge
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  Speaker 1: again so that you know the first one he has
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  Speaker 1: like a waist up picture that he's like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do waist down next.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, if they'll put him in. If you come in,
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  Speaker 4: if you come into two different sessions, I think that
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  Speaker 4: you should be made into a gigantic let's be Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just like call it Maamon pants.
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  Speaker 4: And when I have drakes about mouth dress, it's.
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  Speaker 3: That makes sense. But I don't know. I kind of
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  Speaker 3: felt like, you know, pledges were a little light, and
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  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, can we do to get more money?
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  Speaker 3: And of course we'll talk more about that later. If
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  Speaker 3: the're going to crack, I don't know if they're going
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  Speaker 3: to crack two K.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they will.
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  Speaker 3: There are thirty dollars away from being a two hundred
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  Speaker 3: eight hours. You always get people. They're going to get
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  Speaker 3: thirty not that many. I mean, we can see I
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  Speaker 3: found his chart. You can see that. Yes there is
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  Speaker 3: a there's a spike, but uh, okay, yeah, they'll get there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I just think that a couple of things that have
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  Speaker 4: become very very clear from the community from check discord
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  Speaker 4: and items one, we really want to have a focused
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  Speaker 4: amount of sets, whether that is too released for the
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  Speaker 4: year with one add on as something special, you can
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  Speaker 4: consider that similar to your Mars event, but you know
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  Speaker 4: things that are actually flashed out practice that are balanced.
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  Speaker 4: And then number two, people want to support their locals.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's not necessarily what Gigi's looking for. This
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  Speaker 4: is their route, but again, still seeing this one and done,
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  Speaker 4: the numbers keep decreasing, so they're going to keep using it.
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  Speaker 4: I get that. But that's where I find ourselves is
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  Speaker 4: I think that going more through the stores, incorporating the
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  Speaker 4: stores is a good choice. But we're decreasing in amount
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  Speaker 4: of people that are participating.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope, and we don't this is not public,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know this right, but I hope there's a
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  Speaker 1: similar upper when it comes to the store pledges that
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  Speaker 1: I hope that's true. Otherwise we got problems.
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  Speaker 4: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I just go now.
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  Speaker 1: If it's raising the same level or faster than yay,
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  Speaker 1: good for key Forage and that's good for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: If it's not, then that's bad for all of us.
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  Speaker 4: I just hope that we are moving more into a
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  Speaker 4: pre order system. I think that's really what you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: that Game found is essentially being used for, but it's
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  Speaker 4: not positioning itself as that. So because you can actually
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  Speaker 4: do pre orders on game Pound and Kickstarter, that is
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  Speaker 4: perfectly fine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's what almost everybody's doing these days, right,
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  Speaker 1: there's tons of big companies out there basically.
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  Speaker 3: All the time, dot dot dot kind of well would
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  Speaker 3: you say the pre order blah bah blah. It's like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these companies are using it as a
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  Speaker 3: one time thing to get up off the ground and
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  Speaker 3: then they're pushing forward on their own.
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  Speaker 1: New companies. Yes, but not a lot of the big
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  Speaker 1: companies that are on here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not doing that.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of big companies. The primary
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  Speaker 5: release of every board game now is coming through one
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  Speaker 5: of the crowd because it lets them determine original print
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  Speaker 5: size much more accurately.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and that's worth the you know, x percent,
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  Speaker 1: six percent or whatever they have to pay ten whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is after these So the Queen Games does not
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  Speaker 1: need to use this, but they do because it's valuable
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  Speaker 1: for them.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: It also lets them do the really fancy tokens button again,
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  Speaker 5: exactly the number that need to be produced and not.
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  Speaker 5: We way over produced two hundred dollars board games that
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  Speaker 5: it turns out people don't actually want, right, So I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not there was Who's the other company that's done
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  Speaker 5: it forever? GMT? GMT Games, every one of their games
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  Speaker 5: was released basically through kickstarter style where they're like, this
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  Speaker 5: is the next game we're gonna do, buy it now,
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  Speaker 5: and once we have enough people who'll buy it, then
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  Speaker 5: we'll actually print it. It was kind of that sort
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  Speaker 5: of way of doing things. And you know, GMT was
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  Speaker 5: never much You could find them in game stores, but
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  Speaker 5: they were primarily an order direct thing.
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  Speaker 4: But we don't want to be that. We want to
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  Speaker 4: be following the game scos present in games store.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they're they're board games. They aren't looking to build
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  Speaker 5: player based by being on board game store shelves quite
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  Speaker 5: like card games are or one on one competitive games
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  Speaker 5: need to be right.
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  Speaker 4: I agree that needs to be restated, that that's what
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  Speaker 4: should be highlighted and focused on their.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was just about although we are not.
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  Speaker 3: Traditional and I swallowed spe but god cheap.
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  Speaker 5: Pushing that model is not I don't believe it was
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  Speaker 5: ever going to lead to success short term. We're also
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  Speaker 5: not a board game, and although those are the players
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  Speaker 5: I think we want to reach, the board game marketing
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  Speaker 5: model is not ideal for expanding this game. Like you
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  Speaker 5: look at the other things like Ashes and the other
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  Speaker 5: living card games and collective with the stuff that have
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  Speaker 5: been done more in the board game thing they do okay, right,
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  Speaker 5: but that's all they ever do.
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  Speaker 1: No question, are we a board game or are we
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  Speaker 1: a card game? We're a card game that appeals to
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  Speaker 1: board gamers.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's not what I asked. I asked, are we
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  Speaker 3: a card game or a board.
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  Speaker 5: Now we are questionably a card game, no question about that.
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  Speaker 5: But we are not a collectable card game in the
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  Speaker 5: same way that traditional collectible card games, which is what
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to say by card game.
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  Speaker 3: I think no, I'm just asking because we keep talking
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  Speaker 3: about board games and this is the way board games
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  Speaker 3: do it, and board games do it this way. But
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  Speaker 3: board games have been doing it this way for But
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  Speaker 3: are we a board game or co what are we where?
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  Speaker 5: That's the thing. Key Forge is neither a traditional CCG
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  Speaker 5: or a board game, and trying to say you have
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  Speaker 5: to be one or the other. Is not an actual answer,
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  Speaker 5: Like that's an answer that says that you're already done.
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  Speaker 5: You're never gonna really succeed.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna So I have a question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have a question about uh crucible clash for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: So this is setting up potentially an interesting precedent. The
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  Speaker 1: precedent is potentially, hey, we'll do something crazy with the
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  Speaker 1: thirty seventh card, and if it's really bonkers or is crazy,
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  Speaker 1: it won't matter because we could just say that, well,
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  Speaker 1: when you're playing against other sets, don't use that thirty
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  Speaker 1: seventh card.
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  Speaker 5: So they can fix DT by just making the tide
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  Speaker 5: always high.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we.
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  Speaker 5: Don't want thirty seventh cards anymore, tides always high.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean, I think thirty seventh card is cool,
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  Speaker 1: Like they've done cool stuff with it, not the tide
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  Speaker 1: but other things.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the only other thirty seventh card we have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like.
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  Speaker 5: We're getting thirty seven and thirty eight in the next set.
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  Speaker 1: Those prophecy seems cool, Like, I I mean, I have
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  Speaker 1: not I am not a playtester, so I don't know anything,
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  Speaker 1: but like the concept I am intrigued by so I'm
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  Speaker 1: hopeful that it is actually cool.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we'll have to find out me too. It determined.
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  Speaker 3: It really determines like what they're going to do and
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  Speaker 3: how how much they're going to lean into it, because
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  Speaker 3: it seems like when they do something and they don't
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  Speaker 3: lean into it, the concept flops. Yeah, like we have
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  Speaker 3: a whole right, because we have a whole concept here
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  Speaker 3: of the new Skyborne who want to deal with key
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  Speaker 3: colors and placement on the battle line, but they didn't
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  Speaker 3: lean into it hard enough, so it just becomes a
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  Speaker 3: nothing burger.
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  Speaker 4: What's interesting about that, Sheep? I know you had stated
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  Speaker 4: like if they do something that's partially on partially off,
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  Speaker 4: it's really difficult to be able to balance for a
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  Speaker 4: game state.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's very hard to balance versus sets.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. So if you go ahead and have this ability
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  Speaker 4: that's super hot, but it only fires one third of
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  Speaker 4: the time or one something large happens, how do you
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and basically value that. Do you value it
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  Speaker 4: at hitting every single game what doesn't happen, or do
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  Speaker 4: you value it as only happening irregularly, and then if
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  Speaker 4: it happens, it's super overpowered. So that's a real challenge
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  Speaker 4: that I think that the game developer and the playtesters
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  Speaker 4: have to look at.
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  Speaker 3: Or crazy thought we could develop sets that don't have
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  Speaker 3: some new sort of weird gimmick and just make key
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  Speaker 3: forge cards that are good, and.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I think that I think that is.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: The introduce weird gimmick.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you always got to do something to try to
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: get so you don't have to do it as much
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: as we do it. Like it just every set has
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a new gimmick that you have to like since I
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: mean really, I think the pips right, like, which was
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: the best ever? Right?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: DT was the Tide sucked tokens was good. Yep, I
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: guess Haunted was the gimmick. But again, haunted was a
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: gimmick that's like it's going to happen or it's not
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: going to like it through the progression of the game,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you're going to get haunted anyways, so like, yeah, it's.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Not yeah, but it's leaning into it and for what
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: purpose to discard them?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But they also made cards that that they do Okay,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: so how many to dot?
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: They listed cards, they listed cards that frankly do a
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: lot with being haunted, and they listed cards that can
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: go ahead and cycle back, I think you're.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: My point to all this was you're going to yes,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: not ramble is they made cards that they do one
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: thing if you're not haunted, and then they do something
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: better if you are. Your whole deck isn't a giant
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: dumpster fire if you're not meeting the correct criteria, which
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: is where DT failed, which is where amber Sky's is failing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: If you don't have the correct key for this guy
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: does absolutely nothing. If you don't have the tie high,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: this card does absolutely nothing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I think for amber Sky's it comes down to house enhancements.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: You can hit house enhancements. It's literally leaning into being
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: able to play. We saw that at locals this week
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: when I had multiple cards that fell into another.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Skyborne and everything's fine and amber.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Sky So I think that Skyborne is there, but Skyborne
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: has steel.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Sure, they have a very limit. They're kind of like
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Star Alliance and less version of it and and gr
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: where like often gr real bad. But like if you
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: get you know, a couple of near futures and a
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: couple of leaves, it's like, oh wait, this is fine.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Often you get a bunch of trash.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: If you don't get redline rotation. So flags.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Is again like the adding goofy ship is true in
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: most card games.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not saying adding they don't add at the
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: same so absolutely wrong. There are two blocks in Magic
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: every year, and every block of Magic gets something stupid. Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: difference that there is. It is true, it's not so
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I guess what I was What did what this last
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: block of matter or any block of if I know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I don't anymore. It's not like they have.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Added they well magic is now so far, but like
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: ten years ago last time I played, they were adding
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: ship when they added their graveyard mechanics, and then they
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: added there you could play from the graveyard mechanics, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: then they added discarding cards for manner or some crap
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: they did. They've always done weird stuff. They have a
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: lot of mechanics, but it is not at the same
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: they've had four or five or so that a block
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: is like four sets. Well, but but there's two blocks
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: a year. That's only two mechanics a year. There's not
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: two blocks a year.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Came up with that at all In good traditional AC fashion.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: This can be looked at and we actually have information.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: But to bring some civility back. What I was seeing,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: what I was seeing, is Wookie is right in that
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: we could have extended to more of a block system
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: where maybe you would have seen tokens dealt with for
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: a larger amount of sets, maybe two or three sets,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: and then go into the idea for the Haunted for
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: two or three sets. And so you can extend that
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: even going ahead and bringing in a brand new house
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: like Redemption, which is a twist, you could play that
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: off for again two sets instead of it being one.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: But because you're seeing a higher cycle, and then we
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: have these add on sets, I don't even know what
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: to really consider them, but it strains your player base,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: like people want to just experience. I think that they
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: did a nice job at being able to go ahead
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: and create some of these items, but then let people
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: experience and play that. Discovery is still a component of
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: key Forge, and then we just dropped multiple sets in
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: a very short period of time or all at once.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: It takes it dilutes your ability to discover, and it
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: just focuses on certain qualities as you're looking at it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know how it dilutes your ability
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: to discover when you just have more things to look at.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Uh, It means that you're not as focused and what's there?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I guess, so the main focus that I want to
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: come from here is Wookie is really trying to go
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: ahead and say in my opinion, and we had talked
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: about this through different car rides, having a larger block set,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: multiple sets that are focused on one area would be
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: a better use of key forge to be able to
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: bring someone in. You're experiencing it more than once. It's
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: slightly different, and here's your different, here's your houses with
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: tokens now, and we did that. We did we did
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: winds of Exchange and then we have talk tokens of change.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: But they could have put those together and that could
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: have been across one year versus going ahead and dropping
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: all of the sets that we have.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: I mean with two sets a year, and if we actually.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: We're at we're not at two sets a year.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: We're at two sets a year that are introducing something
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: significant and then some remixed stuff.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: But that this is it. The remix stuff could have
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: been their own sets.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: That would have been it's a remix.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Box is revisiting and it's not a remix. It's revisiting
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: a mechanic. But like the cards aren't just like reskinned.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: There's brand new stuff in this in this set, I
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: think that's absolutely little bit busted. Like I don't know
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: who signed off on that one. That was a bad idea.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not a two people have to turn
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: keys at the same time to fire a missile sort
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of situation. Right, This is.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Someone going ahead and going into the ways.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: In the in the gr box, nobody's getting box. Somebody's
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: getting But.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, if if we're looking at all of the
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: different sets that essentially became available as standard sets for
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: this past year, basically a twelve month period, it is
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: not a normal year that we've seen in the past.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: There are a lot that has been released. And yes, sheep,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you can talk about it being reskinned. I get that,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: and there's some there, but there is there's a lot
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: that was put out in a very short period of time.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Okay, I agree, we got all this year.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: So we need to not be going ahead and spreading
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: out through all of those sets. Instead, we can go
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: ahead and look at some of the mechanics and spread
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: them out and dig into them a little bit. A
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: little bit, so if longer, I also think that you
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: will have people who will. By doing that, I'm hoping
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: that it will allow playtesters a chance to look and
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: play tests and.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: The problems like all right, twenty twenty four, right prophetic
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Visions will be well, essentially, it'll be released in twenty
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: twenty four, but let's say all of twenty twenty five
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: now is focused on this prophecy mechanic.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: What if you totally hate prophecies, like so many people
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: hated Woe and a bunch of people hate gr like, whoa,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: there are people, there are people, well.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing happen.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: People also like DT. So I now we've questioned their
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: we questioned their thought patterns.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: But they don't like, well, well, good riddance.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: We're not gonna we're not gonna make everyone happy, and
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: we need to understand this vaults. We need to understand
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: this in our place.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I'm saying is like, you guys are like I mean,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: and I get it because I'm gonna ask for the
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: things that make me happy, But I mean, I don't.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: There's clearly some amount of hunger because it's every time
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: they put one of these, well until this last one
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: where they're like and it's not legal, like they put
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: up these extra sets, and that's where they actually land sales.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: So clearly sales numbers indicate people do want more stuff
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: to look at.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Actually, I think people just want to Actually, let's just
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: go over to jams short. Let's see. Let me just
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: click on this one. So grimmer Minders did that have
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of extra sets with it was that
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the one where talk came out and whatnot? And mem
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: oh it was ember Sky's and amber sky Is actually
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: did significantly poorer than grimmer Minders did. Weird.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: But you can see the bumps when they release the sets.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: What bumm? And I don't see bumps.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the top one has it. It's there's some slight increases.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I agree with that, but again, what is the overall
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: focus of the game? Do we want to just go ahead?
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Don't know what the overall focus is. It's to grab
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: money right now while they're making game two. I mean
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: that were so, you know, like all the ideas that
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: they've been putting on the burner, sell them now, so
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: they're done with them, milk them weather. I think I
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: think it's fine to release lots of stuff, and it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: fine to be like, oh, I guess I have to
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: play the game bar.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's a good thing. The problem like
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: they saw Magic, right, and you see Magic, and you
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: see a lot of these companies going absolutely bananas with
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the amount of product, Like Magic is releasing more product
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: like within the past five years that it has ever
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: released ever, right, Like it's absolutely crazy. And they just
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: keep seeing like record breaking profit after record breaking profit
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: after record breaking profit. Like somehow, which is the coast
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: found a way to print money and they are being successful.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: But that's Magic, You're not Magic, Pokemon and uh the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: other one Yu gi oh. I have kind of stuck
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to the tried and true, and a lot of the
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: other ones have stuck again the very similar tried and true,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: you know, three to four sets a year, and they
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: are also doing very well. I mean Magic has taken
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: the gap. But I feel like they're like, oh, if
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: we make more stuff, we'll print more money. And that's
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: just not the case in this community. Now, if you can,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: how are you deciding that? How am I decided what
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: that printing more sets doesn't result in them making more money?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: You're correct, I have no because because the company refuses
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to give us any sort of anything on any sort
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: of financial anything that you're correct. I have no clarity
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: on whether printing more stuff makes more money. All I
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: have I know we can all I had a chart
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: here that jam has provided us where this game found
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: did pretty much and I'm going to use your your
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: number from last week thirty three percent less than the
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: previous game found and it had more stuff to buy.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Yes, there is definitely a retraction in.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Sales by people that are participating, but that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: You know that's not necessarily anything to do with the
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: number of sets coming out.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: No, I cannot I agree with Sheep. You can't go
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: ahead and correlate that. What I can go on house.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: We can't like any data because we have very little
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: real data.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Correct, But we can make some hypothesis, which is what's
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: happening now with that we're going to jump down to
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: update eleven and come back to the previews because it
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: says a campaign surprise, and I think that we're going
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: to we're.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Going to skip ten and go to eleven.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: I do actually have thought, is we we keep and
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: and you know, the group we're playing with and what
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: we talk about and the people were with, We're all like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: we want to support our store more. And then at
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: the same, you know, like we want to support our
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: store more, we want to buy more from a store.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: That's many of our listeners say the same thing. That's great.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: But then we've also heard quite a bit that the
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: game is actually supported by the dirty cash is right?
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Who where are they getting their stuff if they are
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: getting it through Game Found? Because you ain't getting it
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: through your store if you're casual, I mean not.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Like, where did all of our talk go from our store?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: We bought it? I don't think we.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: All yeah, we bought it in that No, that that
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: was bought up. It just hasn't been replenished and talk
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: will be coming up. Well no, no, it will actually
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: release this Friday.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but previous to that you couldn't replenish it. But this,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: you know, what I'm saying like is are the the
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: the China sales that we hear about, are they not
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: through Game Found? Are they direct to market over there?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: My assumption they have, I mean, like we don't. We
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: don't know. The time we heard about Game Found in China,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: it didn't go well, right.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: So if Game Found is really just a representation of
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: really how much people like are spending through the Game
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Found and these numbers really don't mean much of anything.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely spent more on amber Sky's in store
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: at this point by a long shot than the same here.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Well, and the other question does come up. I know
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: our international community has voice they're paying additional tax on this, correct,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: and it's really really bad for that at all. Correct.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: So I do think that has been a shift if
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you were looking at the stats between what Woe and
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: winds of Exchange was and the idea of you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: saving a game to Grim Reminders, to then amber Skies
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: and now to prophetic visions. So I do think that
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: this is I guess I would like to see what
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: is the distribution of sales that are in game found
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: in US versus those that are international, And again we
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: don't have that information, but I.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Mean we do know all the power gr decks came
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: out of Vietnam, and none of a lot of them
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: was None of the Vietnam name or language decks are
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: game found back decks. Those are all retail decks. So
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: like none of those decks would have been bought through
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: game found because game Pune doesn't do foreign language like that, right,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: They're only English printed decks. That was all done by
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: the local distributor Riku. They ordered all that stuff and
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: sold at all and the same thing with any any
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: of the foreign language decks. Those are all retail level decks.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I believe none of that stuff came through Game Found,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: and I know we saw we saw decks. I mean
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: like when I went over to Spain and the international volts.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: There are international gr decks of other languages. So there's
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: definitely some amount of retail happening.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much though, and you never will
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: and we never will. All right, Moving on to update eleven,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: A campaign surprise surprise at this point it is actually
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: that's today. We've made it today, fourteen of the key
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Forge Prophetic Visions Game Found campaign. We thank all of
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: you who have taken part in backing the campaign. Key
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Forge is an amazing game. We may be a bit biased,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: and we always and we are always happy to see
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you continue dedication to the game and the crucible. As
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: we're nearing the holiday season, the team has been in
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: a giving mood to get into the holiday spirit. We've
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: been holding on to the surprise for a little while
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: now and figure now is the time to reveal a
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: little present for each of your pledges the Foresight Bundle.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Behold the Foresight Bundle. It is coming to all Stretchical
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: eligible backers. The bundle will add two prophetic visions, limited
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: edition for Sight decks and the new purple Foresight Token.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: The Foresight Token is done in the design of a
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: crystal ball with magical clouds circling around to unveil the
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: prophecy at hand. Use this token on the field to
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: indicate your inactive prophecies. The Foresight Token features featured in
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the for Foresight Bundle. They use this word a lot.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: We'll also the limited edition purple crystal Ball only accessible
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: as a part of the bundle.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So Jeremy probably didn't read it out loud, but you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: is this.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: The opportunity for the Mooning Clown to become a token?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I want it. I want Sydney make it happen. We
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: need a crystal ball, beautiful the mooney clown logo.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: That's our prophecy token.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Does he have a little clouds swirling around him too?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I said, some sort of assholary coming on, some green clouds, babe.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: So for our radio audience who doesn't know, can you
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: describe this icon that is there for the team.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is a crystal ball.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: With no no, not not theirs ours.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Now, if you didn't come to worlds and see it
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: in person, you'll just have to wait for the door. O.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: So at Arcons Corner, not only does AC stand for
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Arcons Corner, it also stands for ask clowns, to which
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: we are not only are misfits, we're as clowns. I
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: don't have the picture on me, I can't share it
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: with you, I can't put it in the in the thing,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: but it is a clown mooning. He's got his behind out.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: And now this will be a token that you can
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: purchase at our patreon dot com forward slash Arcons Corner.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, so my real question about this, do we need
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: a token.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: For the inactive prophecy? Yeah?
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks cool. It looks cool.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: We don't know enough about prophecies to make that decision meaningfully,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: but I'm with you, like, do we really need one
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: for this is the one I'm not using, like you
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: just stack it under the other one.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about. I definitely need this, guys.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I think you need it so I can borrow it
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: from you because.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I need both of them, guys.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: It looks cool, but do I And yes, if it
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: looks cool, you definitely need it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: But what are you going to do with it? I
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: don't know. Look at it.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: You get two for foreskin bits too, so foreskin decks.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, we would.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: That's it's the foreskin bundle and the Foreskinakin bundle.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: See, I told you we'd break him eventually, told.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: You and put your money the dar I I am.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: I have not been also charging you guys for our
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: clown's name too, So I've got a lot to go.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: He never did name the clown.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: But no, he doesn't have a name yet.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have a name. We'll name him later. But
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: so we'll be running some sort of weird contest, so
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: you can name our clown. Oh maybe his name is Foreskin.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: We don't know Foreskin the clown. Oh no, man.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry that I've added to this. Speaking of add ons,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: our update that came so this year came at one
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: o'clock on today the fifth, and then at four.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: O'clock clock they said, holy shit, we're not making enough money.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: So many of you have been asking for a way
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: to access the add ons without having to pledge. One
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: of the standard reward tier levels. We had our campaigns
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: set up in the past that this was not possible.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Something tells me that's bullshit.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: But as respect, you have no reason to lie to us.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Come on, man, So you're telling me that before it
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: was impossible, but now all of a sudden poof, it's possible.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Weirdlogy changes, technology become available.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: This is a Domino. This is a Domino question because
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: you know, he's like he he he loves this stuff.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he knows if it's been possible.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Is he in here? All right? He is?
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: He is here.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Come on up us now, come on up, let's go, Domino.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: We got ship to do, all right, Domino? Is this bullshit?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: What do we call this? What was the segment? Good?
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: So what you're really asking is this is asking audience. Yeah,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: this asking.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Audience member clown ass.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: That is well timed. So what you're saying is that
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: it's not as possible.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: But I think they may have had to set up
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: in the past. But for people that backalog campaigns, you
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: don't need to have a pledge level it now. In
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: fairness though maybe they thought people didn't realize you don't
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: have to have a pledge but they've actually had them
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: pre I think it was the second campaign they actually said, Oh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you don't need to pledge like a tear, you can
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: just get add ons, Like they literally said that. Don't
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: quote me, but I'm pretty sure they said that in
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the second or third campaign.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: That does sound familiar.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: H's what you're telling come in one of them. You
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: could like pledge and then be like, oh, I don't
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: actually want the pledge, and then you just have to
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: spend all that money on add ons. Wasn't that always possible,
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Like they wouldn't give you your money back, but you
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: could like cancel your pledge and then buy whatever crap.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird how they've been saying these things up.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, there hasn't been any weird stuff of like
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: spelling errors or you know, well, yes there has amounts
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: not eqaling the right amount and not giving you know,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: stretch goals to people that back after the campaign, which
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: they did in the first one, which was really bad.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: So what you're telling me is this is shit. This
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: is always something that is that's been possible, but they're
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: just now figuring it out.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's also because they're still new as bad
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: as that sounds they're still new to using this and
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: it's one or two people. I don't want to say
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: who it is, but like, it's not the entire team
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: that's using like the game found campaign. As far as
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I can tell, there's only really one person replying that
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to stuff and who's like ghosting when he's looking at
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: comments like oh I made this error, right? So I
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: think they may set up with the team originally, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: once it's set up, it's just one person and it's
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: only as good as they are at using game Found
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: them cells, right, So who knows.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I do like the idea, Domino that they could be
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: opening it up so people are aware, so I will
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: try and think the best of them.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: And but you guys don't want to pledge one dollar
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: lass that check. There was like five people that did.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Speaking of what you can do, you can now just
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: gift gg a dollar.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Oh you can always do that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: I've been doing that for a long time, gifting you
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: a dollar every month too.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: This is true. What do you mean you all of us? Fucker,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: you're part of the same thing I am.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Thank you for your donation.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: So now also give I am also a Patreon too,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: But you can just give them a dollar and you
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: can have access to all the add on items you want.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I think it's reasonable, Like that doesn't go far today.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fairly.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even fucking matter because all the stuff that
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: they ever can one hundred percent welcome. But all the
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: things that they released in the game Found were like
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: is in the game Found ends up coming out sometime anyways.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't like there's nothing ever special that you
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: could only get in the game foul. You can only
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: get the future site decks, the four skin decks, which
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: we don't even know why those are special, and another
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: special order treatment, which.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Is funny because they didn't do one for Amber Skies.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: They had the sky guaranteed Skybies.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: But they didn't do a special treatment.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: It was just on that yet.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a Skybies. You had to guaranteed fucking spectral.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: In g R they didn't have. They didn't have a
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: special treatment.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: There special treatment in g R.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Was there a special Yeah?
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, has two special treatments because they got the store
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: champ decks.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: And guess and guess how much it mattered none because
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: of the deck stocks. It still fucking sucks. It's still good.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, you've really turned it up here.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: I have to be my way to collect all of
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: these stupid borders that suckered into, like hosting the key
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Forge museum. His idea, he was the choices I have made.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't help you.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Don't like you care about having a foil freaking Wookie
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: card even though it does the exact same thing as
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: a nonfoil.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. I just have one Wookie card first off.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're so happy about foil.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I do want foils, but still I know what's gonna happen.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Because there's always been the case with foils. They don't
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: mean anything.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Boys, I'm gonna interrupt this because we now have six
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty seven backers and we are turning people
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: onto this game found campaign. I'm really proud of.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Because they didn't do any sort of we want his
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: dollar pledge or hurt.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: We didn't get any sort of like preview cards this year.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think any of the articles, but.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: I think they're like, yeah, the time they give us
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: preview cards, they change them.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: No, because they have seen that it does not move
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: the needle at all, so they just decided that they're
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: not going to do that anymore.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, I absolutely agree with giving us preview cards.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: Is like, all right, people who are already well aware
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: of what's going on, here's a preview card.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: No, it's like night and day. You're supposed to do
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that for any card game, Like it costs them zero money.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: It's actually so terrible that they're not giving it as
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: a marketing aspect, even if it doesn't move the needle.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It's so bad.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: You said, you said an m word.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: What was that to the squear jar?
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: He said, marketing.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: That's not a swear word.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: No, it is. No, in all seriousness, he's on a
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: present right. It is very easy marketing.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: But we.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Keep going Domino, don't let sho. I'll mute him if
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: you need me to.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: No, I just feel like there must be a reason why,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Like it seems kind of of an odd choice not
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to give it to people, even if the community is
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: drinking almost any card game that I know, if they
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: have the opportunity to this is like pretty straightforward to
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: get that hype going for people to go and quick
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: on the campaign, and that they were doing it in
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the past, and there's no explanation why it's kind of
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: it seems bad.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: To my view. Well, they tried to give us things
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: and we can't have nice things.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: So us whoever does the artwork, was too busy making
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: yellow deck packages for us to look.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: At the yellow.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I don't mind the yellow. Oh yeah, I'm fine with
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: on the Crucible Clash decks. I think they look fine.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: All right. Who's given the obligatory Z warning? Because now
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: we're going back to update ten, which was on the fourth,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: we're going to spoilers. Yeah, I'm sorry, going back to
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: the fourth for update ten.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, this is why they don't give out previews, because
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: they're this quality and it doesn't gain any excited who previous.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: If you don't want to see something, you don't want
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: to hear about it. If you stayed this long, we're
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: proud of you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: All right. So for this previews section, we got dis
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: and logos. I don't know if they're going to make
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: it through all the houses. I guess they do. They
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: got what four days left?
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Well they I mean they also did Sanctum Oh yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, he started on nine in set you want to go,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: you want.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: To start, Let's start on uh December third, which is
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: update nine, which is redemption and sanctum.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: I forgot about you made it work, and he just
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: didn't listen to me. So that's the way to go.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: So let's start out with Sir Juan. He is a
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: three power one armor night human play. Capture a third
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: rounded down of your opponent's ember, fate, lose a third
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: rounded down of your ember. Now, I remember I believe fates.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I put them under my opponent's prophecy card.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: And when you put them under your prophecy card, and
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: when it triggers your opponent reads the card.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, when my opponent triggers it, then that's the card
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: that pops.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: And like the I don't remember what any of our
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: prophecies are.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Now we don't have a ton. I think we have
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of them. But yeah, not bad. I guess
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: they don't get to see the fate, so they don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: know what they're getting. They just know it's something bad.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty strong fate.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: Like if they're easy to complete prophecies like that card,
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: that card a common has.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Some potential potential.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, If if there's a lot of fate getting triggered,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: then this this seems pretty good.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: Now if it's not getting turggered a lot. The capture
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: a third.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Three to one, I mean he keeps someone off key.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: To I mean it's one, two or three. Amber percent
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: of the games like those cards already exist and often
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: come with additional effects. So or just straight capture three, right, yeah,
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: And the fact that once it's the point that you're
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: capturing three, you're not taking them off key anyways, So
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: it is not scaling Amber control in a meaningful way.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: We got pretty good back right as a six and
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: what six sixty eight now calls them to lose one?
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: That'd be more like us. So yeah, the fate seems good,
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: all right, Teal. Now the rest of the card.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: I think it's fine. It's agreed possible me as for
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: a turn, and I wouldn't.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I would not put it as as because again I
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: think you get to nine year Yeah I get to nine.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're s o l but tell it our
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: three power human monk. Each friendly creature gains after fight
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: heal three damage from this card's neighbor.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be Tilner Tilnar?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure? Why not? Probably? Uh fate fully heal each creature.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Your opponent gains one for each creature healed this way.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Real random.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, so it is hard to set up cleansing wave.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Cleansing wave can sometimes.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Be good, but it's very variable.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: But it's not that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's I think it's better and
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: sealed than ARCon. This is hard, even harder probably to
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: time the triggering of it, right, so it's probably worse
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: than cleansing wave.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, this card's bad. Yeah, you don't want this card.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, the good news is that it's usually not
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: a good card. Yeah, I mean this this is coming
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: in in uncommon, so I appreciate that. What alarms me
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: most is with the fight after fight, heal three from
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: each of this card's neighbors, so everyone's gaining it. But
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: if you notice, we have three to one three, and
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: the next card, which we haven't spoiled yet, it is
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: also three power, so very very small power compared to
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: where we've seen a number of.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: All of aanked him before. All right, let's go to well, okay,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: monks have always been low power, but sir Juan, yeah,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: he's only a three power and he's a knight. Normally
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: those are four or five.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: Because he's look at him, he's a poser.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Poser night okay, oracle Zoon looks three power Monk after reap,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: move each ember from a friendly creature to the commons.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Ply for each ember moved this way, he'll two damage
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: from a creature.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: It's super slow with a meaningless effect.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Its outside of the nothing there's nothing zero.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: Out captured, No the movie friendly creature of the common
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: supply captured too. And then this guy reaps and you
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: throw it in the trash. That's fine, it's really slow
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: on rare. This should be play slash reap or something.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: It's it's not a good card.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Unplay it might be better, well if you you have
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: the play read.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that you really care much about
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: the heel to damage is just a bonus, But yes,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: I do think it needs to be a play.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: This needs a fate where it lets you take all
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: the amber off a creature or something.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah it may be.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: If so, this card needs help, yeah, like who knows.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Inspiration could be common in the set, in which case
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: this card suddenly gets probably pretty.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: Good maybe, but it gets mediocre all.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Right, I guess its right, depends it depends on gett
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: gate keepers.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: Hell, this car could say, reap and you gain all
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: the amber off of a creature, it would still just
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: kind of be like, yeah, it's still slow and it's
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: going to get killed.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well to be a mus kill at that point though.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Still yeah, but.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: I'm saying it's still wouldn't be like in in the
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: scheme of Forge and like, remind you, this card already
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: exists in the sins the one I'm saying, like, this
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: card is not.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Interesting nor special good. Yeah, that's fair. Moving into Redemption
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: brass Kline. Brass Klin games skirmish while on a flank
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: and taunt while not on a flank fate for the
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: rest of your turn. Friendly creatures cannot fight.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Sorry clogging.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: Yep, this card is a bad common Yeah, I mean
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: and Ton's okay, but like you also wanted to have
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: when it's on the flank, right, so it's not always taunting.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Well once it's not on a.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when he's got neighbors.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: When he has neighbors, so you can't can theory put
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: two creatures around him.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Too, I mean, he'll be finish and sealed and not
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: matter anywhere else.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh man, I can't read this card because I
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: need to zoom in let's zoom in a little bit.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I can't see that. Yeah, Ragatha treachery or I'm sorry,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: five power mutant treachery. I forgot brass clients also a mutant.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Each enemy creature gains after rep deal three damage to
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: each your Agatha's neighbors.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: It also says it if you just scroll down, Wookie, no.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I just zoomed in. I'm good.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: Each enemy creature gains free damage each of us. Like
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: it's still like when there's two Reregratha's on the board,
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: it seems goofy. Maybe I just want it to be
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: more interesting than it is because this isn't very interesting.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: So it's going to my opponent.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it didn't get the the other thing, the versatile,
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: so yeah, got that on. Each enemy creature gains reap
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: and its neighbors start dying slowly or fastly, depending on
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: their size. It's like, I don't know, there's another card where.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: You're just kind of like, okay, yeah, it's whatever. It's
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: five powers, so they maybe it doesn't even reap for anything,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: so it doesn't really.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: They've made this card two other times, but just straight
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: up kills neighbors at the end of turn.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, but they gave a versatile those times.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So this guy isn't as good because he doesn't
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: have versator. I mean, he isn't as good for your
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: opponent because he doesn't have versatile, but his effect isn't
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: quite as good outside of if they have a big
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: boarder reapers like then everything dies. So possibly it's you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: it's interesting, what's the gilia and whatever? Right, they kind
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: of have a similar effect.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: There's seven seven power and it's going to do four
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: damage on but.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: This is five power on your side. That makes it
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: even harder to deal with.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Correct, I don't know.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, like I'm finding uncommon.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: It don't.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: It's still it too, okay, gross a monk. Each creature
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: is considered to have zero armor. Each creature cannot gain armor.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Fate destroy a friendly creature for each enemy mutant creature.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: Is armored.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Really mattered, No, And so I think this is more.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: I think this is more for your storyline events and for.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: There gonna no no, no, no no no.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is if you actually look up
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: and I think this is the when.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Over talking about Sanctum usually has it. Yeah, sanct Sanctum
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: because they want to have mutes with them.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: So and if you look at it, but if you
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: looked up at the top, it said this internal strife
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: is reflecting the composition of Keith Prophetic Sky's decks. Sanctum
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: and Redemption share one of the seven house slots in
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: the set and cannot appear together in the same deck.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: So I do think this is very thematic to be
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: able to have this card in. I don't think it's good,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: but I think it's thematic.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I agree, thematic, But I'm saying like armor
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: almost never really matters, and then like, what's it doing.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: It's neutering what is often a totally mid tier house.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I agree on that.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: Yes, I think we get some reprints. Talk. Yeah, do
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: not care.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: We can go through them quick. What do you guys
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: think about the idea of putting the two houses at
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: clash when they show up, they're showing up at fifty
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: percent of the chance. So if I pull Sanctum or Redemption, if.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: I'm half as likely to get Sanctum as I was before,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: I'm okay with this.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: But now you've got a shitty Redemption.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know it's got vaults, Blessing.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, so let's let's go through your cards.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Then, all right, you're gonna be able to find out flank,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: shifting battlefield, Joya's back repaint anybody, Yeah, alright, slow game.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, since we have this out flank, each of your
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Sanctum flank creatures, captures two from his opponent, shifting battlefield
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: move a friendly creature.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: And each of these cards.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: But again not everyone read.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: There are three capture cards here to work with our
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: capture killer above.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Rothias is back if you cared, and the Corpulent Collector. Yeah,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: that's a lot of that is three capture cards. And
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: then for redemption we got citizens shricks. That's exciting. Walt's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Blessing Dark Centurion. At least he gives capture pips, Follow
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: the Leader and Purifier of Souls.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: A non mute, no destroyed effects, no destroyed effects.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are all there. And then we can move
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: into dis and logos, which I guess now this this
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: is not fighting against Sanctum. They've become friends and now
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: it's dis logos that hate each other.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Right, I don't know how this is not one plus
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: the stories.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Now I may have totally made that up or not
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: break the acolyte. You decide Pied Piper three power beast
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: or Pied viper Thank you, beast that has elusive three power.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: If there are more enemy creatures than friendly creatures, each
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: enemy creature gains after reap, give your opponent control of
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: this creature.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I can see this being super annoying for your opponent
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: and playing cards that are super annoying for your opponent,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: or that.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: Is an interestingly annoying card. But it's also like a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: a like, oh look I capture all by Amber there
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: you go, all right, Yeah, it's not It is not,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: by any means a good card.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: So can we see that please?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: No, No, But with with scenario, Well, if.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: I just captured Amber on let's say Drumble, and then
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: I reap to give you control of it, that's that's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: real good for me.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you're playing Drumble and then also
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: reaping with Drumble in the same turn. No, probably not.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Just no.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: It says if there are more enemy creatures than friendly
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: each enemy creature games, give your control of this creature yet,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: so you're gonna wait for the next.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Turn but Jumble is probably dead by then I'm problem,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna Drumble is dead.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: If your opponent had a Drumble on the board. Well,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: as a common, this card is wretched well and that yes,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: this is not the card you want to make a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: common and have people having to figure out multiple copies
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: because multiple copies of this isn't in this game. So
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: it transfers and then loses the other reaps because it's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: no longer yours.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but would gain any after reap effects that your
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: opponent's board is giving because it would gain it and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: you're still in the after reap window.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: Okay, So what I was really more going for for
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: Pied Vip is if I go ahead and have Drumble
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: and then on the future turn, I just simply drop Viper.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Now you can go you're.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: Enemies creature, so it doesn't matter if you played pie Viper.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: If you're you're you're right good, And I am trying
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: to make it better, and I guess it is.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: It is already. I can see it making a cluster?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Can I Can I tell? Can I tell you that?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Because all it's saying is that if I'm the opponent
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: unless it's gonna benefit me. I'm just instead of reaping,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I'm with the fight into things. It's only a three,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: so unless it's has some sort of protection.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, Wait, did you guys hear that? Nobody heard that.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: I already heard a judge call and the cards not
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: even released. Yeah, so parasitic irachanoid, two power beasts destroyed.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: An enemy creature captures one from its own side, fate,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: a friendly creature captures three from your side. I mean.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Steel, Yeah, good.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: This is a good fake card. This is the kind
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: of this is. This is really good. So they complete
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: it and they they can know what's in your deck
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: so they can try to set up a situation where
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: they have no creatures, so it may fizzle. Yeah, but
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, like slow steel is still good steel.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even destroyed as solid right, So yeah, I like this.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah I don't. I like that as a common.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: The wording is a little weird because I'm putting it.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with putting it on their fate, right, am
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: I putting on my fate?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: No? No, no, you play under your fates. They trigger your fate.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: And they have to.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: They trigger your prophecy and then do whatever the fate's say.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: So like, if you're playing this card and I trigger
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: your prophecy, I read it, and I say, a friendly
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: creature captures three from its own side. Well friendly means
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: my creature and my side.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Eddie of disks, you get a pip a vember every
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: time you play it. Play, shuffle a random card from
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: your opponent's hand back into their deck. Shoot fate. Your
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: opponent shuffles their discard pile into their deck. They draw
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: a card that seems a bad fate.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: This doesn't seem like a particularly good card in any direction.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's one less card they got to draw
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: back through it, which if it's a crappy creature, good.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: I guess it's mind better well mind.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: From your opponent's hand. This shuffles it back into their deck,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: so you're that's our mask.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: Is this better than mine? Bart shuffle it or put
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: it in their discard?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Put it in their discard.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I think it depends. If you're playing the dr you're
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: better shuffling it in, right, or guys they're playing it
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: in guystoid, you're better off shuffling it in.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: Would you the EP back in their or would you
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: rather have it in their discard pile where they got
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: to work to get it back.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: If it's a crappy creature, I want them to draw
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: it again. Yeah I should.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: I want it in the discard, and I think that's
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: where the change comes in. It depends on what the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: card is and what it's going to be able to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: impact the game.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I'm just wondering overall which one I would
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: actually perf. And it's hard to say. It's hard to say.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: And here you don't even actually reveal it.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: That is very true. Oh yeah, so you don't even
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: know what you yet.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, but does it matter?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Satisfying to see Z's face that one card holden, But
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: now I can.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: Always make a face like you did something.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, connect to me.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: That lets me bluff more. I like it?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: All right, are assembly common speaking? What's going on?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: No, you're just being roboto.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're just talking over you.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Okay. Reassembly required November. Every time you play it, play
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: put a creature into its owner's archives. Fate just scarred
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: your arc more archive hate common.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: So it's bounce.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: It's I mean, I like it into its owners archives.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Especially well, but.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: I guess you can target your own to redo your
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: playoffs totally. And I still feel like this is like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: more like an Oncommon, but.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Not if you're going to play it on Unstable Dale.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: I think I think reassembly required is perfectly fine. I
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: think it's a good card for what's there archives I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: have control over it, Amber Pip, I like it in Common.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Why do we give the coolest names to the worst cards?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Unstable Dale? Unstable Dale three powers Cyborg after reap, deal
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: one damage to each creature for each card in your hand.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Fate deal three damage to each creature. He's a board
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: clear on a reap with a three power are I.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: Don't know if they're gonna have some Uh.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I guess yeah, got six cards, you know,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: six cards in your hand.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: I'm just thinking this guy plus a hologramophone.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Don't wish Holo gramophone back in the set.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: This guy plus hologramma phone. He's a board wipe every reap.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: This is true except himself, kind of like that dinosaur.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: That's good man.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: I don't hate it about Spartasaurus.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: He's not common, all right? This Fate deal three damage
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: to each friend. Like I mean, like these these fate
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: effects are better on average than what they originally previewed. Like,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: these can have a meaningful impact on the game. And
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: if fates trigger every every turn to every other turn,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: it could be brutal. Could be If it's fates trigger
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: two or three times a game, well, I guess that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: is a rare turn. If they only trigger, you know,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: once or twice a game, then not quite as brutal.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, clearly, Uh zeph punch artists four power robot
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: after the top card of your deck and the top
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: card of your discard pile. I like him.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good ability, that's a that's a witch level.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: It's very slow, but could be good.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: And notice that this ends up with four power two yep,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: I might say we're going to be in three power.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: But I might be able to read this.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Maybe is a robot not a whoosy little monk? Yeah, okay, good,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: damn it?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: No other guys Packers Yeah against Detroit, all right, so
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: against reprints. Yeah, if you've been listening, I might have
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: the Packer game on in the background. By might, I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: mean I do. And they've battled their way back to winning,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: and then just let Green Bay score or let Detroit
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: score another touchdown. Why not, because that's what packers do,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: all right. In the reprint section, we have a Gift
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: of Ember coming back, Banish, Dark Minion, Try Hard, and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: Creeping Oblivion.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: None of those are truly bad cards. No, Dark Minion's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: little iffy, but I guess Dark Minions with Gifts of Ambers.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: It really all depends. Are we going to have Maleficorn
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: back in? No? Okay?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean I don't hate any of that stuff.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: Come back for logos Cutthroat Research, Wormhole, Tech Candle, Unit,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: cyber Clone, and Captain Nemo.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: That looks slow cyber Clones.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: But Cutthroat, Research.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: Candle it isn't bad. Cutthroat was only sort of good
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: because it was in a set with Eddie, right and
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: now we don't we haven't seen.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: That although technically right now, I mean Piles November are
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: a thing. Cut Throat it was in World's Glide as well,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: so you could still use this.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: This is I mean, Wormhole is one of those cards
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: that you know, if it's left alive, it makes a difference.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, like I'm more interested in the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: disc right now than the logos. This is, this is
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: this is this logos there is a single f right
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: like Zef Punch is the only one who has any
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: actual efficiency. Candle Unit doesn't count because he never lives. Like,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: but this is not efficiency logos.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Right now, No, you're not wrong.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: That can be said.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh, we have six hundred and seventy backers. We're
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: killing it, crushing it.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: Are we done? I mean I'm saying like we hit
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: all the.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Yes we've had. I believe we've hit all the updates,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: that is everything that we are up to date.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: Well, and then h ops a sheep.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, okays the sheep go ahead. Yeah, now, okay great.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: And then I suck at key Forge because I let
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: Barlow pick the deck I have to play in the Yeah,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: this is this is why I suck at key Forge.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: I trust other people to make good decisions.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know why you'd be like, yeah, he'll pick
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: a perfectly fine deck. And then it's like I picked
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: the busted one.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: I'm he picked one. I mean we are playing this
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: format where he gets to play arc I have to
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: play reversal. So he set himself off to get a win.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Not so certain about me. I feel like I'm a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: sacrificial cheap.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: You definitely decided you make bad choices.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: Yep, I'll just put it bad choice.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Put it there, you made a bad.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: I'm on Daz course team and he assigned me this
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: this individual, so somehow it's going to be Dress's fault.
• 1:16:32
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• 1:16:35
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• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: there I don't know, or.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: Four days, so that should put it on the ninth
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: of December.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Or day before this podcast came out, probably probably probably, or.
• 1:16:51
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• 1:16:54
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• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: right now to make sure we talk to our game
• 1:17:02
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• 1:17:09
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• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: many people want to commit before the I am pretty
• 1:17:18
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• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: with Ghost Galaxy, they don't actually have to pledge. It
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: looks like I I mean through my game store, who
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: is not pledged on the game found I can add
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: to kart right now the retail pledges, so your game
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: store can go into the Ghost Galaxies UH store and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: pick between the large, medium, and small pledge. So you
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: want to talk to your store so they order the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: right amount for you guys. And now, so what you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: got to release this tomorrow because otherwise this is pointless.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: And then also if you're doing that and you want
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: to those token deck boxes, they can order those right
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: now too and get the or not the token, but
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: the deck storage boxes for all the previous sets. Those
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: are also available through the portal. So go to your
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: store buy stuff that way.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I'll do both.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Packers are making me upset. But anyways, with that being said,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: that's gonna do it for us this week. We will
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: see you all next week.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Happy forge and everyone, may the Forge be with you.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Cause long.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: A broom, lug down race and foot fountains and torn.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: This pard bar lu me on dream and.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: Just don't know me the bars and this guitar.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Lone cas go.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: You never brough my hard, No, you never brough my
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: heart