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62. Tony Fiorentino: From HEAT Original to Broadcast Legend · Out to Pasture

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll camera in the right place and the right time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Wells, thanks John Miami!
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey Joe, back with another episode about the past year, but before we get to anything, I think we've got a great guest today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just got my car back from Edmore, saw a grass automol.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone, someone give me a side swipe my car and put it in body shop, immaculate the cars spectacular.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I went to the service department, got the Tahoe, all ready to go again, who tune up, got the whole deal done there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll bird over there, fantastic one, the best in the business, anywhere when you come through that service department, they're great with, hey, all the different, Buick, Chevy Cadillac, GMC, GMC.
1:11
[SPEAKER_04]: They can't carry a man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chris Ackens couldn't be more more helpful for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great guy in our relationship with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to thank him for sponsoring us as long as he's been doing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just tell you if you're in the South Florida area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, you may be worth flying if you're from California.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You may want to fly down here and go to Edmore's Sawgrass Automol and get you a car.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll give you a good deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're not going to tax you the way they do out in that state.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See, and I take a shot at our state California, but listen, they they do a great job across the board.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They really do take care of us So service you name it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a family full of new weeks and Chevy's man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, always want to thank you That's a head more sawgrass automal sunrise in Fort Lauderdale or in the it's out Florida You got to go there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't had we haven't had guests in a long time
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, but I've got to tell you the guess we got, he feels like family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't even feel like he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he, yeah, he should just be sitting on him forever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's been around here forever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's one of the first ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the heat originals, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only six of them way back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... he's been uh... he's been a coach uh... he's been a broadcaster damn good about these uh... now he's a he didn't master the great tony fior and tino uh... out of out of let me see out of what was your what was your call his sony well my my high school is my burning new york my burning in college great that's why i want to a couple of schools
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you were like me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've told them to go from a close-down Just mention we're gonna have to push it all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I want to talk to the likes on
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey Tony, you have done it all man, you really have gone back to when this thing started for a lot of people, don't realize it, you know, you look at different generations you've been here and they think of you as just the color analyst along with Eric Greed for the Miami heat basketball games, they don't realize you actually coach for the women's WMBA team
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the fact that you're still here really says a lot about you, Tony.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to want a lot of hats, you know, from those on that first coach and staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I, and it lasted 11 years because I was four years on Coach Riley staff, which was an experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they, Miami's soul came about, Ron Rossine came back, I hooked up with him again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I did, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, after that went away, I did radio for a year of the games and then I was 15 years with Eric on the air and then they told me they reassign me and I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: I helped run the junior heat program.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do a lot of clinics and camps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go into high schools and middle schools.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've run the 45 schools the last two years talking about kindness and what it takes to be successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's great because they got to mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got Miami heat warm-up suit on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got the ring on where it's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got, I got the attention right away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we, I use Dwayne Wade and LeBron in different people as examples.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In some of the things that we're trying to teach them so and then, you know, then of course Joe you would you would have done the same thing Bobby both too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to learn how to spell ambassador, you know Don't ask me to do it right now In a message.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're I don't think Joe and I will ever need to do a spell that title I don't think we're gonna I don't ever think we'll be jambass with our staff No, no, well we're done with the dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say that was it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get the fuck out of here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, what I say it's when I say you or you're
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[SPEAKER_02]: The first wave of the heat, Billy Cunningham, Louis Chaffell, that whole, that loud situation kicked off the history of the heat, and that was a crazy time, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, years back, I had to speak at a Jewish high school on the beach at their sports banquet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here I am, I was probably the only Gentile in the place, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm doing, I give my speech, and at the end, I say, does anyone here know what a bomb mix for is?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That a world, somewhere I'm looking at me cross-eyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lewis should fell, had a saying over his desk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A bomb mix for his death point in a Jewish boy's life when he realizes he has a much better chance to own a pro team than the play for one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go to the buffet after that and all the woman come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a great speech
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[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I like that motivation behind it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Tony, you got to talk to us about first year when this thing where the NBA comes to South Florida, we got the Miami Heat Basketball team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe it was Grant Long and Ronnie Cycley.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the kids are really good players on that team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was Pearl Washington in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, first year was Kevin Edwards out of the poll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had we had some good players, but they were we had six rookies on the team and there's a great wrong roasting story where
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we're in, you know, we flew commercially done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't then have planned private planes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're in the airport in January.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Miami airport.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get ready to board a flight to go to an away game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a guy comes up to coach Rustin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had about maybe 7-8-1-1-1-15 games that year, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe we had 7-8 lot of wins at that time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and he says money because I gotta tell you you're a great coach, all guys play hard every night date, you know, the referee's don't give us a break and I just gotta tell you, I really enjoy watching this play but I gotta bone the pick with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Ron says, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, I don't like the way you substitute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Ron he says, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you know with six rookies who's going to perform on a given night?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember Kevin Edwards one night got 30 in a game and they went to a few and a minute after the game because on its practice every night the next 90 scored three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what happens with rookies, where the young team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like just going through that though, that that first year.
7:33
[SPEAKER_04]: And then as you look down the road, Pat Riley comes to town and making all those promises on that cruise ship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sitting there listening to it and going, this guy's talking about this game bowl of art and a championship, oh my God, I see, I said this way you get a guy from LA in New York and I'll be damned.
7:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Boy, the guy's delivered and become one of the best at about every level you could ever have when it comes to management.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was sitting there whatever agreed on the cut the ship imagination and it was very interesting listening to him speak because, you know, and if anybody else said what he said, this guy's crazy right knowing his reputation and what he accomplished, you know, even not the next to the finals, whether up three two against the rockets and loss, but yeah, you know, he wasn't a pipe dream he knew what it took.
8:24
[SPEAKER_00]: to win a championship, and the ownership between Mickey and Pat all these years and now Nick has been unbelievable, but one of the best and pro sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, look at that whole organization, that whole organization, as it is now, they've been steadfast and then, you know, Mickey, Mickey goes, his son comes in and things keep going and pat, look, a god bless pat, you know, coming off the, coming off the, coming off the, out of the broadcast booth and taking the lakers into Showtime, winning championships there, going to New York, doing what he did in New York, success, and then coming down
9:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What there's going to be a play there's going to be a parade down this game Boulevard and it's going to be the heat basketball team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but boy, he made dreams come true and and you know what the one thing I admire about Pat, he did it his way and he's still doing it his way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, it's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first time I saw him get excited, we had a meeting, we had officers in downtown Miami before the arena was built.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after the first year, we were three years at La Salle High School in the Grove.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that first year, about a week before the season started, we get, we make the trade for a long, so morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're sitting in a meeting and he's all excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, coach, you know, Hall of Famer, Kareem Abu Jabar, Hall of Famer, Patrick Ewing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's got his center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now he can really implement what he wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he made some trades before the deadline in that 95, 96 season that first season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he brought in Tim Hardaway and
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[SPEAKER_04]: I tell you what, though, going back to those teams, and I know they didn't win a championship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: God, they were fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was playoff games.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that really got the rivalry with the New York Nixon and the Miami Heat going.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you what, I pay top dollar to go to them and send a Madison Square Garden and at the arena down here every day of the week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There, you couldn't get more exciting games when the result was 85, 84, something like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's when it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a deep fence of battle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think those were those were those were the days when it was tough, it was tough basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're, you're not given them anybody a quarter, you're, you're putting them elbowing in their ribs if you have to, whatever you have to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and you had to, he had a team that was loaded with the, with guys that were more than willing to do their part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, it's funny, when I was on Coast Lockery staff, we played the next with Pat Riley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they were very physical, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in a timeout, Kevin Lockery says to the team, the next time Patrick Ewing touches the ball, I want all five guys to go down and sound.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just found, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they come out of the huddle,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the few minutes go by and it's all the ball into the low post.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keith Askins goes in there, the warrior, and he hacks him across the arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was obvious it was intentional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other four guys didn't do anything, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you and Chase just keep all the way to our bench.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's kept their ways for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keith was the only one who did what Kevin Lockery wanted him to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to get back at the physicality of the nicks against us.
11:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, you talk about going in the broadcasting stuff and Tony, you did such a great job at great chemistry with Eric for all those years.
12:00
[SPEAKER_04]: What kind of adjustment was that for you going from being a coach and knowing the game so well, obviously, and what the heat wanted to do and everybody else wanted to do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Was it tough on your, or was it, was TV easy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was kind of easy, Joey, that the key was that you got to be yourself, because, you know, the great Jack Ramsey had done it for eight years, and that he'd pick me did it for a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Fratello did it for a year, but then I came aboard, and you just have to be yourself and find your own niche.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eric and I as such good friends off the court, I think that you said the chemistry came through on the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically my job was to put the fans in the mind and why the coaches make decisions and point out things.
12:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, for example, Dwayne Waysville, Mobile, down the left side of the floor, all of a sudden he throws a big lob test to LeBron for a dunk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have no idea how LeBron, everybody watches the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But coaches look off the ball, you know, that's part of what the scouting you used to do for the heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You always got to look off the ball, and so things like that.
13:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But had a very unusual situation happen to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go on a West Coast trip, but on for six games, we start in Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so as fans don't realize that when you're an MBA or hockey, whatever, when you have a lot of games on the road, you don't bring six suits with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You bring maybe two or three who were a different shirt different tie each night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know the difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I bring three suits with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing a black suit and Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Eric Reed and I are rehearsing our open, facing the stands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as we're facing, as we're sitting there, there's a kid there with his dad, maybe 11, 12 years old, and he's got this big chocolate cone that he's eating, and a big cookie, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking at it, I can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That kid's eating too much, but don't you know about his halfway through the second quarter, though all of a sudden we smell something, that doesn't smell right, the kid threw up all over my jacket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, at half time, they had to come with the pine soil and clean it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had to wear that suit again on the road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we went to Los Angeles from there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to go to the cleaners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I made the LA times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Only time I made the LA times sports sections.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, my introduction in Minnesota as an announcer was when the kid threw a bomb in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On my jacket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's funny is every time we went back there, we claimed once a year in Minnesota during the Western Conference, the fans have the same seats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time we went back there, they'd made fun of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to hear that every time we went back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was one incident there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just had a lot of fun with it, but it was very unusual to sit there for like maybe five, six, seven minutes, having the smell of vomit before they could clean it up at halftime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's one of the things that happens on the road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tony, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the one thing I always, always like we're listening to you guys, both of you guys were great or what you did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you brought that coaching, you brought that coaching and but you spoke, you didn't speak coach speak, you, you, you, you, you brought it to the, to the public.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... is a normal as a normal as a normal course of business and i and i always thought that i think i learned a lot uh... watching what's in the end day and and the heat uh... with me know that i tried to do ball is my my approach was
15:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Rasteries a friend, I've known him forever, he's a New York guy, great guy, still doing stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to be like him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to make it feel like we were sitting at a bar, having to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I wanted it to feel like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would never talk down to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all my job was to explain what was going on on the floor, try to get the fans more educated on what's really happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and obviously it helps when you've got a very good play by play guy who has the color announced to the right questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really cool with, you know, having a good relationship with your partner or the area's good friends and the two of us can then impart our knowledge for the fans.
16:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't have been dying to ask him, Bo and I talk about this next topic a lot and that for a lot older guys are just getting tired of the 53-point shots a game or 45-3-point shots.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We talked to Ron Rossstein.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not crazy about it, as you know, speaking to old school for you and the changes in the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How do you like the new game of running and hit open threes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's interesting you asked that Joe, you know, in the junior heat camp about three four years ago, we're over at Miami-Dade College, maybe longer than that five years ago, and 11 and 12-year-olds were playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and a kid comes down the floor with a two on one break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he does exactly what he should do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in the middle of the floor, he occupies the defender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a teammate running down the left side of the floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He stops at the top of the key, makes a perfect two-hand bounce pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ball goes out of bounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The kids stop at the three-point line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think he watched TV?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the influence on the young kids today,
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[SPEAKER_00]: When in all era, when we came in in an 88 net that those years, you would never have Ronnie cycling fraction three point shots or Kevin Willis and guys like that that we had, you know, that that just didn't happen but that's the way it is today in the NBA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it's the right, it's a purest way to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's interesting that right now the Celtics
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[SPEAKER_00]: are up three two in the series, but the two games they lost is because they shot Poli from the three point line, so their existence and their chance of winning depends on making the threes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was, you know, I go to the gym and sometimes riding a stationary bike and they got TV's up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sitting there watching TV and they've got an old classic game on, it was Celtics and pistons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it was lamb beer and it was all those guys, Rodman, Zeke, and then I'll obviously bird and all those guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna tell you what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: physical, physical, physical is can be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what, I didn't see one, I didn't see him shoot one three point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see him shoot one three point shot in that whole game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
18:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You know how much money going rice would make today?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've run in the camps with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got the work with him when he first came to the heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the most outstanding player to final for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be seen all by one and over time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great great shooter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought I stood under the net.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where the rebound was going right and I said I I introduced him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was introduced him at camp and I said, you know, Glenn was playing today He might take 15-3s in a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right and he probably would not say make nine So Glenn would interrupt and say no 11 or 12 He'd be making a lot of money today because he was a great great shooter, you know
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tony, you see, I know we go through this and football about the change in players and how it's different and you've got to talk to them differently and I know some kids have gone to your camps and love the way you talk about discipline and fundamentals.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You think that stuff's still important.
19:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you talk about going home and make your bed in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought some of the stuff in the message you actually do is great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me, are you guys out that much different today than they were 30 years ago, 35 years ago?
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think kids are the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think society and adults would change.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because I, when I speak to the kids in the schools and when we do the clinics and we do the camps, the kids are the same kids are kids and they're going to, they're going to react to how you teach them they're going to react to the discipline and I think one of the, the things that I found is that there are, there are adults who tell kids the right thing, but
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for example, you might have parents who smoke and they tell the kids don't smoke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The kids are going to emulate the parents and listen to them.
20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of bad going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, in sports, sometimes you got to be held accountable.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the old school basketball coach and you've got to be held accountable But that doesn't happen sometimes in youth sports because kids will get in the car on the way home If they lost a game and maybe the parents are a little over as well as with blaming the coach blaming their officials You've got to own up.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey you lost a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on But you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do we do teach life skills in the camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to be on time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to be you've got to pass before
20:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I had a dime for every time I said in all the years I've been coaching now, since I was 21 years old, passed the ball.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes kids come to camp and they think it's just about shooting, right?
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, one of the jokes I use about my getting my shoulder operation was that I should have passed the ball more growing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I shot too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I that played horse against Joe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe never beat me in horse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I never, you know, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And back then, they let the media come out after practice when it first started and you and I would, you go, come on out and you know, I never beat you in horse and I was playing a lot of basketball and Tony, you know, I just think, I see you, you know, show, working with guys coming off picks and stuff and I go, he can't shoot the ball that much.
21:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And you tell me, Joe, you're never gonna beat me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, no, it's funny Bruce Bowen when he came to the heat.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't shoot a lick and we were over at LaSalle and every time I saw him after he went through You went to Boston after that and then played elsewhere.
22:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I always thanked him for keeping me in shape because when he used to shoot the ball I had to run all over the gym and get the rip out
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I told Joe when we played horse, no guy from Cal's going to be the guy from Alabama in the horse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The good point there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Very good point.
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tony, let's talk a little bit about Pat Riley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We all know the impact that he's made down here in South Florida.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the one thing I admire about him, I admire a lot of things I admire about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But his loyalty to people who have been loyal to him and done the right thing with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at that staff, that staff that he's got has been here forever and ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And look, he's got Keith Askins around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a lawns all around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back to you.
22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Back to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: very, very loyal to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm assuming going down to the training staff and to all the people that have been working in that arena for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of loyalty coming out of Pat Riley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No doubt, you know, he respects hard work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He received, he's got old, old schools approach to the game.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things he used to do as a coach is he used to use real life situations
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember two two situations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when we had our first meeting in the Grove when he first came.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go downstairs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He and I are walking downstairs and they bring my car up first and I had a bunch of Stuff from the camp that I gave him.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he wanted it or not and as they opened the trunk he saw my clubs and I was starting to play golf at the time So I said to him coach, do you play golf?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes no one and never had a coach who did either I said okay So I took the club down in a trunk
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: No, the other story that's poignant that I think fans may want to hear, it's a good story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's how you see these real-life situations to teach.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We, at LaSalle, our offices were upstairs, and the guys would, we'd have, from 10 to 10, 30, the younger guys would work, guys would come in and shoot 10, 30 week officially start practice.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Pat would walk downstairs and talk to the team.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So this one day he comes down and he's talking to the team, and he goes, he says, look,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making the lesson out of this.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, you know, I was a pretty good high school player.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was an old American high school and he's a pretty good college player.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I went to try out for the Lakers, Bill Shaman, the Hall of Fame coach and player.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the few guys that's then he has twice both.
25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a coach.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He brings me in right before they make the final cut.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, look, Riles, we have
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[SPEAKER_00]: your job if you make this team is to make sure they're prepared every night to play play a game because can you do that so basically he's telling us you're not going to play you just got to get them ready to play he goes okay I can handle that well don't you know he became the cult guy for the fans because he was tough hard nose he died with the loose balls running to the stands you know draw charges that's that's how we maintain it and a plane in the NBA well this one night gale good riches out and his backup this out
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fans were used to like when there was two minutes left in the game and the regular game in the rough 20, we won't rise, we won't rise, you know.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So now now he's got to play.
25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's telling the story to the team.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a lot of morning sitting there, Tim hardaway, PJ Brown, he's got Marley, he's got Keith Askins, all these guys sitting there listening to the story.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So he says, you know, it comes down to five seconds left in the game with down one,
26:11
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, okay, it's what I want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pasta ball the rails, top of the key.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Will, Chamberlain, you pin down.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Jerry, you come off the screen.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Hit Jerry, he makes the game, he makes the win game when we go home or when.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Jerry Westonist, they may be the greatest clutch shooter in the history of basketball, right?
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So, a rouse is telling the story.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: They threw the ball into rails.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He turns and he looks and he has nobody on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's wide open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: five, four, three, two, one.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: He shoots the ball and this is the crowd out.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They love them when they're up 20.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want them shooting the game when they're right.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So they go in a locker room.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's telling the team this story.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes in a locker room.
26:50
[SPEAKER_00]: His locker was next to Wilts.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So Wilts has packed.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: What did you do?
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, I was open.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Wilts said, there's a freaking reason you were here.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So he made it a lesson, because what must have happened was the night before, some guys are trying to do things they can't do, and you don't want to do what the opponent wants you to do.
27:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to go to your strengths.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So he used that as a lesson on teaching him, hey, you got to know what your strengths are and what your weaknesses are, and you got to go to your strengths.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Great story.
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a little
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[SPEAKER_02]: a little tidbit of something i i i i think our friends uh big uh bobby molosi uh sent you some bakery goods from old man bakery uh stuff and some of you enough that eight people look look at these cookies i what you got you got this coffee cake oh i can't get the best bobby cake you're keeping the best honey no doubt i feel like i'm in New York yeah so so villa time bakery since connected in New York
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[SPEAKER_02]: he sends these he says it's been there 50 years he sends these products all over the country it comes to you the next day so fresh is can be so good I'll tell you what the the bakery the food that's available well guys great stuff.
28:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Wonderful guys.
28:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Italian to Italian right there man done doing that.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I told you I thought it was back it's a delicacy from the York man.
28:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Villetalia Bakery.
28:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you watch NBA games eat no
28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and getting fat.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
28:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Tony, pre-shanches giving us a tiny thanks, brother.
28:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Always, man.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Great thing.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll do it again.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I got it.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you got a lot more good.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Do what I have to do.
28:50
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot build up there, Tony.
28:51
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of time, brother.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Another chapter.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Great thing you guys.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Great thing, Tony.
28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Pre-shanches.
28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll do it for this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you next time.