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- 0:01The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
- 0:06day. You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Wednesday morning, twenty
- 0:11third day of August. I'm West thanks for joining me. Working our way
- 0:17through this week of it's a weird week. It's a weird week in August.
- 0:23To me, it is because we obviously have Labor Day next weekend,
- 0:28so we get through this week and then we have the holiday weekend on the
- 0:34other side of that, and I know the holiday weekend is kind of the
- 0:38unofficial start of fall for a lot of people, where it's the end of
- 0:42summer and you know, you go, well, technically there's a astronomical end,
- 0:47but you know, we look at things by the calendar, and September
- 0:51usually typically is when we start to look at the fall. I know,
- 0:54the weather yesterday was ridiculous and it's hard to even think that we're knocking on
- 0:59the door of fall already. But I did see some leaves on the ground.
- 1:03I'm not sure, and I noticed him yesterday for the first time,
- 1:07and I'm not sure if those leaves fell because we're hitting the autumnal cycle right,
- 1:12I don't know if it's or if they just burned to a crisp and
- 1:15fell on the ground. I'm not sure what happened yesterday, but I did
- 1:18notice some leaves down. So we are getting to that phase of our seasons,
- 1:23whether we can accept it or not and want to go by the you
- 1:26know, well, astronomically, it doesn't happen until you know the equinox.
- 1:32And I understand that I do. We talked about that many times on the
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- 1:42Stars. But we're we're winding down with just you know, a week and
- 1:48a half left really of August of that, you know, calendar wise,
- 1:53when you look at the calendar and you start talking about seasons, and as
- 1:57you may know, the Labor Day weekend special to me because I do go
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- 2:34so looking forward to that. Now this weekend, the pregame show will
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- 2:53podcast will have the full link show for you waiting, probably Friday night.
- 2:59I'll probably that up Friday night, so it'll be ready to go by the
- 3:01time the show will air on and it'll be longer form on the podcast,
- 3:07So what you hear on the radio will be shorter. Well, you hear
- 3:10on the podcast will be longer. That's the way it works, all right.
- 3:14So let's talk about this uh incident that happened in California over the weekend.
- 3:22And oh, I know, we got the debate tonight, by the
- 3:24way, and we'll talk more about that later in the week. I you
- 3:30know, there's a lot going on with the debate. There's a lot still
- 3:31going on with the Trump indictment, their stuff going on with you know,
- 3:38there've been setting bonds and bail and all that stuff. So but well,
- 3:42we'll talk more about all of that as we get towards the end of the
- 3:46week. Right now, I want to talk about this incident over the weekend
- 3:47because I haven't talked about it yet, and it's a woman, an athlete,
- 3:53Sophia Laurie, who was a college athlete, and she was invited to
- 4:00speak at an event where she was going to talk about women in sports.
- 4:06You can probably already see where this is going. This was in California,
- 4:10so you probably guess where this is going. But she was just talking,
- 4:13trying to talk, I guess, advocating for women's rights, women's rights in
- 4:19sports, their rights to play sports, their rights to compete in sports.
- 4:24And she wanted to specifically address the fact that she did not feel and she
- 4:30does not currently feel that women, young girls will have the same opportunity as
- 4:38women coming up in sports because she's concerned about biological men competing in sports that
- 4:45were intended to be for biological women, and she specifically was addressing biological girls
- 4:50and biological men. She says, as she started to speak, she was
- 4:56cut off, and then I guess later she was cut off again. Librarian
- 5:00finally told her to leave and that if she didn't leave, the whole meeting
- 5:04was going to get it shut down. This is according to Sophia Lorie,
- 5:10who was giving this. She posted this on x you know, it's the
- 5:16social media platform formerly known as Twitter, and the librarian kept saying, basically,
- 5:24you're mis gendering. You were talking about men and women's sports, and
- 5:28I guess they kept shouting out to her that in the state of California,
- 5:35trans women are recognized as women by California law, and that's the case.
- 5:44So let's let's talk about that a little bit. First of all, it's
- 5:47amazing to me, and it should be horrifying to every single one of us
- 5:54that we do have people in our country who aren't allowed to speak the mine,
- 6:00they're not allowed to have a different opinion, they're not allowed to exercise
- 6:03their First Amendment rights because there is another group of people who thinks that their
- 6:10opinion is more important and their opinion is more valid. The very fact that
- 6:16this issue of women competing in sports has now become an issue that is protected
- 6:25in some ways because you can't talk about it. So it's protected by a
- 6:31California law. And there's a few other states I believe that have similar laws
- 6:34that say that you can't miss gender. A person. A trans person is
- 6:41the gender that they are transitioning into or have transitioned into. So a trans
- 6:46man is a man and a transwoman is a woman according to this law in
- 6:53California. Okay. And I'm assuming that this librarian is speaking the truth on
- 6:58this law. I've seen this law pair of raised before. I don't want
- 7:00to be one of those people who says that the law is that, you
- 7:04know, not completely, not completely what it really is. I don't want
- 7:08to be disingenuous with it, because that's what's been happening in Florida and Georgian
- 7:11places that don't say gay stuff that they've been using to attack Ronda Santis because
- 7:16nothing about that law was about not saying gay. Okay, we we know
- 7:20that here, I hope, But that's not it's just disingenuous. It's lying.
- 7:26I mean, it's it's a misrepresentation about what the law was intended for.
- 7:31So this particular law, as I understand it, and as it was
- 7:36shouted to Sophia Laurie, who was speaking at this event, that California law
- 7:44says trans women are women, and that therefore she's breaking that law and violating
- 7:49that law when she's referring to biological men playing sports with women or biological boys
- 7:58playing sports with girls biological girls. I guess so according to that, the
- 8:07law ultimately will shape the way this particular issue gets discussed. It wasn't so
- 8:13long ago that there were fights to get women the opportunity, the funding,
- 8:20and the ability to play sports the same as boys being able to play sports.
- 8:26That was something that was a hard fought battle. Imagine a scenario if
- 8:33you will that I just think women's right to vote. Okay, so fighting
- 8:43hard for the right to vote and then finding out later that men who had
- 8:50transitioned into women had the right to vote twice. Okay. I know that's
- 8:58not an exact tit for tat kind of comparison, but I mean apples and
- 9:05oranges a little bit, but there are some similarities. Maybe it's it's two
- 9:09kinds of citrus fruit, you know, Maybe that's what we're getting at.
- 9:11It's not quite apples and oranges. We're talking, we're talking about two different
- 9:16kinds of citrus. You know, maybe we're comparing, you know, like
- 9:20a nectarine to an orange, right, maybe something like that. So I
- 9:28don't know I'm reaching for this metaphor. But my point is the very fact
- 9:33that not so long ago, this was a real fight. It was for
- 9:39funding. It was for funding in schools, colleges, universities, middle schools,
- 9:46high schools. This was a fight to make sure that female athletes got
- 9:52the same opportunities that the male athletes had. You couldn't just say boys are
- 10:00gonna play basketball and football and baseball and soccer, and the girls are gonna
- 10:03do cheerleading. And if one girl wants to try to make it on one
- 10:07of those teams, god bless her, We'll give her a chance to try
- 10:11to make the team. And if we have a no cut policy, then
- 10:15yeah, you're gonna get some girls on the team. There was a fight
- 10:18to make sure that that wasn't the way it was. There was a I
- 10:22mean, a real fight. It makes me think, and I know that
- 10:26this is a bigger stretch I think. But you know, I say all
- 10:31the time when we feel like our liberties are just being handed away all of
- 10:35our liberties when we feel like things like our first Amendment right is just being
- 10:41given away. Because in this situation, when the loud people in a room
- 10:46shout down a person who's trying to speak and advocate for girls rights in sports,
- 10:52ultimately she has to surrender and walk away. She's got to just leave
- 10:56the room and walk away, even though it's a public library, which she
- 11:00should be able to be in and speak, but she's got to walk away.
- 11:05She's ultimately got to admit, Okay, my First Amendment right isn't the
- 11:07same as yours. It's not equal. Think about what that would mean to
- 11:13our founders. Think about the people who fought in the American Revolution, the
- 11:18actual patriots who fought and hoped that we would achieve something special here, and
- 11:24our founders who decided we need this protection. We need this ability for our
- 11:31citizens to be able to say anything they want to say and have it protected
- 11:35anything at all. But instead we've entered this society now where we say,
- 11:39if it's bad, if it's racist, if it's sexist, if it makes
- 11:45me feel a certain way, if it's offensive, then you can't say it,
- 11:50even though in principle you should be able to say those things. I
- 11:54say that without being an advocate for those things. I don't like to say
- 11:58things that make people uncomfortable. I don't walk into a room and say,
- 12:03what can I say to make this room go real awkward, real fast.
- 12:07I don't do that. That's not my goal. That's not my intention.
- 12:13The idea of walking into a group of my friends for the sole purpose of
- 12:16just talking about politics, it's not necessarily something I want to do. If
- 12:22I walk into a room of friends that I know what their politics are and
- 12:26we're there to talk about politics, that's one thing. But just to walk
- 12:30into a gathering of people blind and just start talking about politics, that's awkward.
- 12:35I don't want to do that. That's not what I want to do.
- 12:39Now. Did Sophia Lorie know that she was going to be speaking an
- 12:43event that there was going to be some issue and contention. Maybe probably so.
- 12:46But that's what she was there to do, was to speak on behalf
- 12:50of people who aren't able to speak up. Imagine what her founders would think.
- 12:56You just you know, you don't. Their First Amendment rights are more
- 13:00port than your First Amendment rights. I was just talking with a friend the
- 13:03other day about this, about this very thing, and I talked about this
- 13:07on the show not long ago. It's not illegal to be dumb. It's
- 13:13not illegal to be racist. It's not illegal, not with words, it's
- 13:20illegal to do racist things. In some circumstances, it's illegal. You know,
- 13:28you can't do hateful things. It can't be considered a hate crime,
- 13:31is what I'm getting at. But if somebody wants to speak up and talk
- 13:35about any sort of offensive thing, most of them it's protected. They have
- 13:41a right to do it. But what's happened with states like California that have
- 13:46this in place. When it comes to mis gendering people being offensive or considered
- 13:52hate speech, It all depends on the context, doesn't it. If you
- 13:58walk up to a person who's living their life as a woman and you happen
- 14:01to know that they were biologically born a man and nobody could really tell the
- 14:05difference, and you out them, I would think that could be considered hateful
- 14:09and it would be just be nasty. That wouldn't be fair. It's not
- 14:13a nice thing to do to another person. Never. But if you're just
- 14:16standing up for the rights of girls that would like to compete in sports,
- 14:20I would think that that would be protected. I would hope that that would
- 14:24be protected. But apparently that's not the case. That's not protected. That's
- 14:31not something that you're allowed to do in a state like California. You don't
- 14:35have that right. It's not an option for you to walk in and say,
- 14:39hey, girls have a right to play sports. We just fought for
- 14:43this. Why are we handing it away? Why are we giving it away.
- 14:46We're supposed to fight for those things. We're supposed to fight for the
- 14:50things that we've earned and that should be available to us, Like free speech.
- 14:56We're supposed to fight for that. We're supposed to stand up for it
- 15:01and fight for it. But when you stand up for it and fight for
- 15:03it, you got to be careful where you're doing it, because if you
- 15:07happen to be anywhere near I don't know, the Nation's Capitol building, if
- 15:13you're outside in the streets somewhere and someone walks past you and they go inside,
- 15:18you might be in trouble. And all you were doing is trying to
- 15:22stand up and be heard. And no, it's not illegal to say that
- 15:26you think that the presidency was stolen. It's not against the law. It
- 15:33wasn't against the law. When Hillary Clinton felt that way. It wasn't against
- 15:37the law, when Al Gore felt that way. It wasn't against the law.
- 15:39When John Lewis said it many many times over the years he spent most
- 15:43of the last years of his life denying elections. It wasn't against the law
- 15:48when Stacy Abrams did it. It's not against the law, but being associated
- 15:54with it in some way because it's something that you wrote on x slash Twitter,
- 15:58it's something that you said to someone in the street before they went inside.
- 16:04It's a scary time. This is someone who was standing up for girls
- 16:10rights, standing up for women's rights to compete in sports, something that you
- 16:12would think we would all be behind. But somehow the people who make sense,
- 16:19that have common sense about this issue or pushed aside for people who are
- 16:22just being loud about it. The people who have nothing else to do while
- 16:29these events are taking place, and they show up and they protest and they
- 16:32argue it, and maybe they even travel state to state. I don't know.
- 16:36I don't know where these people come from, but there seemed to be
- 16:37everywhere, and they seem to be always the loudest voice in the room.
- 16:42And the loudest voice doesn't necessarily mean you have all the rights. It just
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- 20:17Show right after the break. According to a new survey from the New York
- 20:29Federal Reserve, American workers want a minimum of nearly seventy nine thousand dollars a
- 20:33year to take a new job. According to the survey, the average reservation
- 20:38ways the lowest yearly salary sorry, lowest yearly salary that workers would be willing
- 20:45to accept for a new job is a record seventy eight thousand, six hundred
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- 20:52sixty nine thousand in July of twenty twenty one, workers with college degrees now
- 20:56expecting a salary of at least ninety eight thousand, six hundred dollars a year
- 21:02to accept a new job. Wow. And you know there's that old adage.
- 21:08Basically, the wage will also affect the overall like it has an effect
- 21:17on inflation, It has an effect on interest rates and things. So inflation
- 21:23drives a need for a higher wage. Higher wage need drives more inflation.
- 21:27It's all a big cycle, but it's interesting that is a lot ninety eight
- 21:32thousand, six hundred to accept a new job. If you've got a college
- 21:37degree, all the more reason you need to go to college. I don't
- 21:41know. So we got Coffee Mate rolling out a brand new creamer tastes like
- 21:47peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. According to the company, the Limit Edition flavor
- 21:52was inspired by coffee lovers who grew up with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in
- 21:56their lunch boxes. Okay, just for a second here, I love peanut
- 22:00butter and jelly sandwiches. By the way, I had peanut butter and jelly
- 22:03sandwiches for lunch yesterday. As a matter of fact, I do Apple is
- 22:07my go to jelly for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I'll do the
- 22:11others. I like strawberry, I like grape, I'll go through many of
- 22:14the different flavors of jelly, but apple is my go to. The thing
- 22:21about coffee creamers, and I know there's different ones, and there are different
- 22:25people with different tastes. I understand that, But to me, the best
- 22:29kind of coffee creamer is the one that tastes like cream. That's just me
- 22:33and I understand not everybody shares that. And then you can throw in a
- 22:37few things that will also enhance the coffee flavoring. Right, You can throw
- 22:44in a butterscotch coffee creamer. You can throw in a pumpkin spice coffee creamer.
- 22:48You can throw in French vanilla, you can throw there are a number
- 22:51of different things that you can put in the coffee creamer that will still let
- 22:53it reasonably taste like coffee and enhance it a bit. If you start throwing
- 23:00in like ham sandwich into your coffee creamer, I don't know that that's gonna
- 23:06be. And I know peanut butter and jelly is different than a ham sandwich,
- 23:11but it's that's just a bit. Isn't it a bit much? A
- 23:14peanut butter and jelly coffee creamer? Now I realize unless I actually tasted it,
- 23:19I can't fully speak on this. I will say this and I do.
- 23:25As a kid, I grew up doing this. We would make toast,
- 23:26we would put peanut butter on it, and then we would we would
- 23:30dip it in coffee. Now I didn't drink coffee as a kid, but
- 23:33we would dip toast in coffee. Peanut butter toast in coffee. I still
- 23:38do it as an adult sometimes, so I do like the peanut butter taste
- 23:42with coffee, but typically it's with toast I have and I will admit this
- 23:48I have before when I make Jake off and will I have just a peanut
- 23:52butter sandwich for lunch. And if I make his lunch in the morning,
- 23:55I'll put my little bit of creamer or milk in my coffee and I will
- 23:59usually stir it with the knife that I used to make his peanut butter sandwich.
- 24:06So again, it's getting that little bit of coffee, a little bit
- 24:08of peanut butter flavor in my coffee. But peanut butter and jelly, I
- 24:12just that doesn't seem to be a good idea. I'm guessing maybe that's the
- 24:17origin for it. If you've made peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and you're stirring
- 24:21your coffee with that knife. Maybe I don't know. Finally, people who
- 24:26wake up in the morning and they're cheerful and they're just obnoxious, turns out
- 24:30they're actually happier. A study done by the American Psychological Association found that early
- 24:34birds are happier and more successful in night owls. They also tend to be
- 24:40more proactive, get better grades, are better at anticipating and minimizing problems,
- 24:45and are at a lower risk for depression. So you know, those are
- 24:51all good reasons to get to bed earlier and wake up earlier. You know,
- 24:56those are all good reasons. But you know, binge watching a show
- 25:00until three in the morning, that's a good reason to stay up late too.
- 25:03It doesn't really affect all those positive things. Does it give you better
- 25:07grades and make you more proactive and better at anticipating in minimizing problems. It's
- 25:14probably opposite of that, because it says you want to watch another show and
- 25:18then you hit it because you're not anticipating and minimizing your problem. So I'm
- 25:23just pointing out you can watch more TV, or you can get up and
- 25:26be productive and do all those positive things according to this particular study. What
- 25:33are the folks that American Psychological Association no anyway, that'll do it for this
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