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- 0:03Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como estas?
- 0:07Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo.
- 0:09Speaker 1: This is my friend, Mac.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Fat Mac, in his heyday, was a toilet-clogging machine, man.
- 0:16Speaker 3: This is my friend, T-Bone.
- 0:19Speaker 1: On this Tuesday, I'm a swinger. You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony.
- 0:25Speaker 1: You're the best. I love those guys. All right, one
- 0:27Speaker 1: time for the one time. You're listening to the Mac
- 0:29Speaker 1: and Bo Show on Mac and Bo Radio. Good morning, Charlotte.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Welcome aboard.
- 0:46Speaker 2: It is time for the Mac and Bone show. Can
- 0:49Speaker 2: a man get a little more music there?
- 0:51Speaker 1: My goodness, man. He's trying to settle in, baby.
- 0:54Speaker 2: It is time for the Mac and Bone radio show,
- 0:57Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:58Speaker 1: You have made it.
- 0:59Speaker 2: You have made it to Tuesday. Congratulations. Today, your reward
- 1:04Speaker 2: is we will entertain and inform you. We've got ourselves
- 1:07Speaker 2: college basketball starting up last night.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Conversations to have.
- 1:11Speaker 2: We've got the Hornets getting run out of their own
- 1:15Speaker 2: gym last night. We did get Kobe White back, but
- 1:18Speaker 2: he is on one heck of a minutes restriction here,
- 1:20Speaker 2: it appears. We will discuss that. We'll also discuss whether
- 1:24Speaker 2: or not we are in the final months of the
- 1:26Speaker 2: Tijon era.
- 1:28Speaker 1: As well. A little bit of news there. We'll talk
- 1:30Speaker 1: about that.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And we've got Panthers chats to have, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:34Speaker 2: We're going to fix the Carolina Panthers right here on
- 1:36Speaker 2: this radio show.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yes, sir. We're going to do it.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Also, we're going to try to figure out why we
- 1:43Speaker 2: are still favorites. And I don't know if that's everywhere, Bone,
- 1:46Speaker 2: but I saw DraftKings yesterday still had us as a
- 1:48Speaker 2: very slight favorite to win the division. We will discuss
- 1:52Speaker 2: that as well on the show. And Coach Canale has
- 1:56Speaker 2: some very interesting comments about yesterday in his press conference,
- 2:00Speaker 2: college football stuff. Talk about interesting press conferences. Bill Belichick,
- 2:05Speaker 2: Matt Ruhle, Manny Diaz asked about the Florida State job.
- 2:10Speaker 2: There were some interesting things going on in college football
- 2:13Speaker 2: pressers as we await tonight's initial rankings of the CFP.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Something else is going on today, Boney.
- 2:20Speaker 2: We get to vote and we get to say goodbye
- 2:23Speaker 2: to all those political ads.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the most important days of the year,
- 2:27Speaker 4: so I encourage everybody to go. see who heather denich
- 2:31Speaker 4: predicts to be in the college football playoff today it's
- 2:33Speaker 4: a very important day in our sports lives did you
- 2:35Speaker 4: say there's an election today as well they said i
- 2:37Speaker 4: believe that is going on you're right though that was
- 2:39Speaker 4: my first reaction thank god the ads are the ads
- 2:42Speaker 4: are gone bro they get me on the text now
- 2:44Speaker 4: oh yeah are they getting you on the text yeah
- 2:46Speaker 4: i had to make pete pablo been texting me non-stop
- 2:49Speaker 4: trying to get me to get out and.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Vote i got iced tea did you yeah i got
- 2:52Speaker 1: iced tea a lot.
- 2:53Speaker 5: Okay i got a phone call from the president yesterday supposedly.
- 2:58Speaker 1: We may be on different lists here. Anyway, let's talk.
- 3:02Speaker 1: What did he say? Let's talk.
- 3:04Speaker 5: I didn't answer it because it was like a long voicemail,
- 3:06Speaker 5: but I read the transcription and it was like, President
- 3:11Speaker 5: Donald Trump is trying to get a hold of you.
- 3:13Speaker 5: And I deleted that thing as fast as I could.
- 3:16Speaker 1: All right.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Let's get our sanity back, baby. You should have said hello.
- 3:20Speaker 2: You've done your 92 right back to him. Get us
- 3:22Speaker 2: our damn sanity back. So anyway, let's talk about it.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Let's talk about the hoops. We'll get into the Panthers
- 3:29Speaker 2: in the second segment. We'll talk some college football this
- 3:31Speaker 2: hour as well. But let's talk about the big night
- 3:35Speaker 2: of basketball last night. And it included a dud from
- 3:39Speaker 2: the Hornets. Man, things were looking all right, Boney. Things
- 3:43Speaker 2: were looking all right. Mid third, about four minutes, four
- 3:46Speaker 2: and a half minutes left in the third quarter. Nas
- 3:49Speaker 2: Reed hits a couple of shots and the Hornets have
- 3:51Speaker 2: pulled to within four. And I'm thinking, all right, we
- 3:55Speaker 2: might have ourselves a little competition here. Cade Cunningham happened.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Hornets turnovers happened. Fast breaks for Detroit happened. 19-0 run
- 4:06Speaker 2: by Detroit to finish the third quarter. And the game
- 4:09Speaker 2: was essentially ended, Bone, in that four and a half
- 4:12Speaker 2: minute stretch to end the third quarter.
- 4:14Speaker 1: My God. Yeah, you're sitting there thinking, all right. I mean, there's,
- 4:17Speaker 1: I mean.
- 4:18Speaker 4: There's no shame in losing to the Pistons. They were
- 4:20Speaker 4: the one seed last year. They're a very, very good team.
- 4:23Speaker 4: So in your current state, trying to figure things out,
- 4:27Speaker 4: just getting Kobe White back, Khan's not back yet, no grant.
- 4:30Speaker 2: All right.
- 4:31Speaker 1: You're putting in the effort. That's fine. I'm not mad
- 4:33Speaker 1: about it.
- 4:34Speaker 4: And then, as you said, the wheels fell off to
- 4:37Speaker 4: the point where– This morning, Mac, I was trying to
- 4:40Speaker 4: figure out, did they have 27 turnovers or 25? Because
- 4:45Speaker 4: on the team box score, there's 27. The individual player
- 4:48Speaker 4: box score, there's 25. 27 turnovers, 37 points conceded off turnovers,
- 4:51Speaker 4: only four fast break points.
- 4:53Speaker 1: And and 19 assists in the game.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Yes, they've shot bad, as they did, especially on Friday night,
- 5:03Speaker 4: and that's a problem. But when you throw in no
- 5:05Speaker 4: fast break points, that many turnovers, that many points conceded
- 5:09Speaker 4: off turnovers, the lack of assists there, that's a recipe
- 5:13Speaker 4: for the result that we saw last time.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Detroit shooting 57% from the field. A lot of them
- 5:19Speaker 2: fast break runouts off those turnovers, but they also were
- 5:23Speaker 2: nailing the hell out of three-point shots.
- 5:25Speaker 6: 18 threes.
- 5:25Speaker 2: 49% shooting. That's the stuff the Hornets would do to
- 5:31Speaker 2: teams last year. Hitting threes like that.
- 5:34Speaker 1: How often does Cunningham go four for seven from three?
- 5:37Speaker 1: Turn your mic back on, sir.
- 5:40Speaker 4: I was about to sneeze and I forgot to turn
- 5:43Speaker 4: it back on. How often does Cunningham go four for
- 5:46Speaker 4: seven from three? It's not really his game, but last
- 5:48Speaker 4: night he was feeling it. Everything was his game.
- 5:50Speaker 2: He absolutely dominated that basketball game. And then they get
- 5:54Speaker 2: 24 from Duncan Robinson. Holland's hitting threes. Herter is hitting threes.
- 5:59Speaker 2: I mean, it was just a team butt whooping from
- 6:03Speaker 2: that four and a half or so minute point in
- 6:07Speaker 2: the third quarter on. The Hornets have this trend of, well,
- 6:11Speaker 2: missing shots, but they have this trend bone of some
- 6:14Speaker 2: horrible second halves offensively. And last night we had one
- 6:17Speaker 2: against Washington where we don't even get to 40 points.
- 6:21Speaker 2: 37 points in the second half last night. 21 in
- 6:24Speaker 2: the third, 16 in the fourth. I guess it's hard
- 6:28Speaker 2: to score, Bone, when you're not getting shots off because
- 6:31Speaker 2: you are giving the ball to the other damn team.
- 6:33Speaker 4: It's so interesting to watch a Charles Lee team struggle offensively.
- 6:38Speaker 4: They are ninth in a points allowed per game. Their
- 6:40Speaker 4: defense has been all right. The rebounds, they're 10th in
- 6:43Speaker 4: the league right now. They're doing well in other areas.
- 6:46Speaker 4: So you would think at some point when they get
- 6:49Speaker 4: back healthy and full, Kobe White needs a little bit
- 6:51Speaker 4: more time. Obviously, Khan's not there. But they're 30th in
- 6:55Speaker 4: offensive points per game, 9th in defense. Man, they could
- 6:58Speaker 4: just be average offensively to have a few more wins
- 7:00Speaker 4: right now. Dennis Schroeder's absolutely killing it.
- 7:03Speaker 1: It's bad.
- 7:04Speaker 2: How is that guy a veteran that's played all the
- 7:06Speaker 2: way he takes care of the ball? The way he's
- 7:08Speaker 2: so careless with the basketball. How the hell has he
- 7:12Speaker 2: played all those.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Years in the league?
- 7:13Speaker 4: Well, it also might be why he's been on 17
- 7:15Speaker 4: teams in 17 years.
- 7:16Speaker 1: That's possible, too.
- 7:18Speaker 4: No doubt about it. That's KB said on the pregame
- 7:20Speaker 4: show last night. He's Dennis Schroeder, not Dennis Shooter.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Listen, the shooting is one thing. He's never done it.
- 7:29Speaker 2: Five turnovers last night, and a lot of them are
- 7:31Speaker 2: just horrible turnovers. It's terrible, man. You're supposed to be
- 7:37Speaker 2: the veteran backup point guard. Seon James did finally hit
- 7:41Speaker 2: some shots last night. If you're looking for a positive three,
- 7:43Speaker 2: a four from three, he scored 11. He was still
- 7:46Speaker 2: in the damn starting line lineup. They just moved him
- 7:48Speaker 2: to the forward spot. And Kobe's minutes restriction must be
- 7:51Speaker 2: pretty serious because he played 16 minutes.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And after the game said, I played more than I
- 7:56Speaker 1: thought I would.
- 7:58Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:58Speaker 2: So that's a severe minutes restriction that he is on
- 8:02Speaker 2: coming off the calf injury. Khan was working, putting in work.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Apparently he's doing some five on five. So he's getting close.
- 8:09Speaker 2: It can't happen soon.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Enough, man. It cannot. And I believe the Hornets may
- 8:12Speaker 1: miss this Lamella Ball fellow on offense.
- 8:14Speaker 4: Yeah, he had his first 30-point game in Minnesota last night. Also,
- 8:21Speaker 4: tomorrow night's game, although the opponent is not great, that's
- 8:25Speaker 4: a big game against Brooklyn again tomorrow night because of
- 8:27Speaker 4: what's going on back for that. They are They're spiraling.
- 8:29Speaker 4: They're 3-5. We said, hey, just stay around 500. You
- 8:34Speaker 4: want to beat the Nets with Boston and Cleveland after that.
- 8:38Speaker 4: So that's a– I will start to maybe not necessarily panic,
- 8:43Speaker 4: but be very concerned if they drop to 3-6 with
- 8:46Speaker 4: what's coming up after that if they don't win tomorrow night.
- 8:49Speaker 1: That's a big game tomorrow night. Yeah, you got to
- 8:51Speaker 1: get that one, man. Have to. You got to get that.
- 8:53Speaker 1: You already got routed by the Wizards.
- 8:55Speaker 2: You blew the game against Philly when you had a 90%
- 8:58Speaker 2: chance of winning.
- 8:59Speaker 1: The Wizards! In the final minutes.
- 9:01Speaker 4: You were playing well against Detroit the first game until
- 9:04Speaker 4: you ended up with the Nas Reed thing happened and
- 9:06Speaker 4: you ended up losing the game. So you've had opportunities there.
- 9:10Speaker 4: They're just not going your way right now in some
- 9:11Speaker 4: of these areas.
- 9:12Speaker 1: What happened last night against the Detroit Power Rangers? Problems.
- 9:16Speaker 2: I just can't believe the mollywhopping. They don't even have
- 9:21Speaker 2: the Bash brothers right now. Jalen Duren's not playing, and
- 9:24Speaker 2: Isaiah Stewart got.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Shipped out of there. Do they even need Jalen Duren? Like,
- 9:27Speaker 1: Paul Reed looks tremendous.
- 9:29Speaker 2: He does. They're faster. They can run more without big
- 9:31Speaker 2: old Duren. Like, I'm watching it like, do they even
- 9:34Speaker 2: need that dude?
- 9:35Speaker 1: All right.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Anyway, college basketball begins last night, and unfortunately for the
- 9:41Speaker 2: Tar Heels, they are the story. We can definitely talk
- 9:45Speaker 2: about Duke's win, State's win. We could talk about Charlotte
- 9:49Speaker 2: putting up 51 in the second half to get a
- 9:51Speaker 2: road win. But Carolina struggling yet again, bone a week
- 9:57Speaker 2: after watching them struggle and barely beat Charlotte.
- 9:59Speaker 1: And an exhibition is the story.
- 10:02Speaker 2: They beat Western Carolina, but Western Carolina, the second half
- 10:05Speaker 2: had four chances to take the lead in this basketball
- 10:08Speaker 2: game did not.
- 10:09Speaker 1: And Carolina ends up.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Gutting out an eight point win over the fighting smoke
- 10:15Speaker 2: Ludwigs of Western Carolina.
- 10:18Speaker 1: They can't. Hey, y'all, how your mama name there?
- 10:20Speaker 2: They've they've got big men that can't even grab rebounds
- 10:24Speaker 2: against a damn catamount.
- 10:26Speaker 4: You kept waiting for them to pull away, pull away.
- 10:28Speaker 4: And every time they got it out a little bit,
- 10:31Speaker 4: Western would cut it back down. The real turning point
- 10:35Speaker 4: of the game. And I think why the heels that
- 10:37Speaker 4: I'm winning by eight. The leading scorer for Western Carolina,
- 10:40Speaker 4: they took a chance. They left him out there. This
- 10:43Speaker 4: Roberts kid, he had 17. He ends up getting a
- 10:45Speaker 4: foul call. He fouls out, and that's really where the
- 10:48Speaker 4: heels end up pulling away at the end. If he
- 10:51Speaker 4: doesn't foul out, we could be talking about the Fighting
- 10:54Speaker 4: Ludwigs having ragged rights over the Tar Heels. And I
- 10:58Speaker 4: didn't want that for my friends, my neighbors. I did
- 11:01Speaker 4: not want that. I did not want to see my
- 11:03Speaker 4: friends hurt this morning by something like that. So glad
- 11:05Speaker 4: they could get a win over– Western Carolina last night.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you, Jaron Stevenson had two damn rebounds again.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Cato was in foul trouble, but he still played 20 minutes.
- 11:15Speaker 2: How do you not grab more than two rebounds? You're
- 11:17Speaker 2: starting five, man. It's pretty sad how badly and desperately
- 11:22Speaker 2: they need Cameron Fens. Like, it's just, like, this is
- 11:26Speaker 2: a dude from, a transfer from one of the Dakotas.
- 11:29Speaker 2: You should not be that desperate to get this dude.
- 11:32Speaker 2: He ain't Brad Doherty. But I feel like they're desperate
- 11:35Speaker 2: to get him.
- 11:36Speaker 4: Young had six points off the bench, two threes, but
- 11:39Speaker 4: they were huge when he hit those.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Those were massive. That's a massive six points he had
- 11:43Speaker 1: last night. They were big.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Abel had 18, attacked the basket, hit the threes. I
- 11:48Speaker 2: like the way Terrence Brown attacked the basket and got
- 11:50Speaker 2: to the free throw line. I was very surprised to
- 11:53Speaker 2: see that he was three of 11 from the field. Um,
- 11:56Speaker 2: after the game of Dallas leading rebounder again for the,
- 12:00Speaker 2: I say second straight game, obviously didn't count, but the
- 12:02Speaker 2: exhibition in Charlotte, he has the leading rebounder as well. Um,
- 12:06Speaker 2: so we're going to have to talk more about that. Um,
- 12:09Speaker 2: we've got, uh, Duke, uh, winning. If you can win
- 12:13Speaker 2: a game by 34 points, ugly, uh, On the offensive end,
- 12:17Speaker 2: I feel like that's.
- 12:18Speaker 1: What Duke did.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Man, their defense, they were smothering them poor cadets defensively, though, man.
- 12:23Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a lot to work on there offensively. Blackwell,
- 12:27Speaker 4: first-team all-conference, all-American candidate. He did not score a basket
- 12:32Speaker 4: until 10 minutes ago in the game. They were shooting
- 12:34Speaker 4: at one point. nine percent from three with about 12
- 12:39Speaker 4: minutes to go in the game and they were up
- 12:41Speaker 4: by 41 so uh army did not necessarily pose a
- 12:44Speaker 4: challenge but when you've got michigan state next week you've
- 12:47Speaker 4: got tougher teams coming up there you're going to want
- 12:49Speaker 4: to make sure that your offense is locked i'm not
- 12:51Speaker 4: worried about it but it was one of those yeah
- 12:54Speaker 4: they played about a four of 22 from yeah it
- 12:56Speaker 4: was not uh and they added that on at the
- 12:58Speaker 4: end there it was it was really.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Ugly for a while but Blackwell was one of six
- 13:02Speaker 2: from the field. That ain't going to happen too often,
- 13:04Speaker 2: if ever again.
- 13:05Speaker 4: The thing with Duke is they have Coastal Carolina coming
- 13:07Speaker 4: up this end of the week here. But they don't really–
- 13:10Speaker 4: remember when they used to play like four or five
- 13:14Speaker 4: of these type of games? They don't really play that anymore.
- 13:16Speaker 4: They kind of get right into it next week against
- 13:18Speaker 4: Michigan State. They got Florida not far from now. They've
- 13:22Speaker 4: got Illinois coming up soon. They don't have a lot
- 13:25Speaker 4: of these tune-up games. That's why the exhibitions become so important.
- 13:28Speaker 2: They're going to get big mammoth challenges, whereas the Tar Heels,
- 13:31Speaker 2: and I'm not throwing shade at the Heels. I think
- 13:33Speaker 2: it's actually a good thing because Michael Malone's got a
- 13:35Speaker 2: lot of coaching to do. But they will not have
- 13:38Speaker 2: those sort of games, and I think that's a good
- 13:40Speaker 2: thing for them, for Duke.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Let's throw these boys into the fire.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Let's see really how this rotation should shake out and
- 13:46Speaker 2: who can handle it. I'm telling you, though, man, like
- 13:48Speaker 2: you look at the shots, and I know it was Army.
- 13:51Speaker 2: They have the potential on the perimeter to absolutely strangle
- 13:56Speaker 2: you defensively. They have so many dudes bone that get
- 14:01Speaker 2: up in your shorts on defense, man.
- 14:03Speaker 1: They do.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Sarah is the obvious one, but Rippy and Foster, and
- 14:08Speaker 2: it's just, they have the ability really to.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Get up on you, man.
- 14:13Speaker 4: One notable thing last night, Mac, as NC State blows
- 14:16Speaker 4: out Campbell as well. I want to make sure we
- 14:17Speaker 4: mention a number of results last night.
- 14:19Speaker 1: 28-2 run at one point.
- 14:21Speaker 2: They started badly. But 28-2 run late second half. Early
- 14:26Speaker 2: first half. They beat Campbell.
- 14:28Speaker 4: But I wanted to say Charlotte beats Indiana State on
- 14:31Speaker 4: the road. And Charlotte, Mac, has themselves what we like
- 14:35Speaker 4: to call a star guard in Tillery. The transfer from Cincinnati.
- 14:39Speaker 4: I did not realize that he... Prior to transferring Maddox,
- 14:45Speaker 4: I did not know he was a top 50 recruit.
- 14:48Speaker 4: I know he was highly thought of. I didn't know
- 14:50Speaker 4: he was that highly recruited. That's a huge deal for
- 14:53Speaker 4: Charlotte to get a kid that was a top 50 player.
- 14:56Speaker 1: And boy, howdy, is he playing like it so far.
- 14:58Speaker 2: 29 points last night, seven threes. He hit seven freaking threes.
- 15:04Speaker 1: I didn't get to see it last night.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I was supporting Sun Valley Soccer Bone up in Greensboro
- 15:10Speaker 2: last They played one of the 14 Guilfords. You explained
- 15:14Speaker 2: to me, Bone, being from up close to there, how
- 15:16Speaker 2: ridiculous it is. They have a Guilford for every direction
- 15:20Speaker 2: you could be. This was southeast? We need a Guilford
- 15:22Speaker 2: consolidation here. Can we just get one big old Guilford?
- 15:25Speaker 2: So I got home and just was watching to the
- 15:29Speaker 2: wee hours.
- 15:30Speaker 1: So I saw Hornets-Duke Carolina. I saw State's first half.
- 15:33Speaker 2: The Charlotte one I want to watch tonight because I'm
- 15:35Speaker 2: very intrigued by the Charlotte team. And Tillery's a big
- 15:38Speaker 2: reason why. And I didn't realize he was that high
- 15:40Speaker 2: of a recruit either. That's an extreme talent for them
- 15:42Speaker 2: to have in the backcourt.
- 15:44Speaker 4: I was trying to do the work for the show
- 15:47Speaker 4: last night. You were at soccer. Fitty was at— you were
- 15:50Speaker 4: at Chapel Hill last night, right, Fitt? correct i was
- 15:53Speaker 4: trying to consume about 10 10 different things at once
- 15:57Speaker 4: i gotta tell you man i'm a little worn out
- 15:59Speaker 4: today usually monday's my uh my downtime from all the
- 16:01Speaker 4: football we can we maybe space i know that everyone
- 16:04Speaker 4: gets excited for all the hoops to start on one
- 16:06Speaker 4: day can we maybe like space it out just a
- 16:08Speaker 4: little bit throughout the week maybe a little bit we.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Had 147 games on yesterday I could have done a
- 16:16Speaker 2: two-night thing. Some teams are playing tonight. South Carolina's playing.
- 16:19Speaker 4: Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama start tonight. But the heavy bulk
- 16:22Speaker 4: was last night all at once. Because I was also
- 16:25Speaker 4: trying to just peep in on what Gonzaga-Purdue's doing, UCLA-Arizona,
- 16:30Speaker 4: just trying to see what they looked like.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Can we maybe.
- 16:34Speaker 4: A little Tuesday, Wednesday there? Some bigger games? Florida-Miami was
- 16:37Speaker 4: last night as well. Maybe just a little space.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Yeah. A little space. Let you breathe a little bit.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Let you breathe a little bit.
- 16:44Speaker 4: By the way, Oklahoma lost to East Texas A &
- 16:46Speaker 4: M last night in the second biggest point spread upset
- 16:50Speaker 4: in the last 30 years.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Was that one of Picante's picks?
- 16:53Speaker 2: Oh, you give the points or no?
- 16:55Speaker 1: I need to look at that. He was all about
- 16:57Speaker 1: the favorites last night. He's very quiet about it. I
- 16:59Speaker 1: need to check on this.
- 17:01Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to the Sun Valley boys
- 17:03Speaker 2: soccer team. They won a thriller in the first round
- 17:06Speaker 2: of playoffs over Southeast Guilford 3-2. Now, they have the
- 17:10Speaker 2: treat of playing the number one team in the state,
- 17:13Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the country, Charlotte Catholic.
- 17:16Speaker 7: Oh, no.
- 17:16Speaker 1: That's going to be great.
- 17:17Speaker 2: We already saw you all twice, and we've got to
- 17:19Speaker 2: see you again.
- 17:19Speaker 1: No, we want to stay with the Guilfords. Pick out
- 17:21Speaker 1: your Guilford. Yeah, I'd like to. And I met a listener,
- 17:23Speaker 1: Coy from Greensboro.
- 17:24Speaker 4: Really?
- 17:25Speaker 2: I'm sitting there walking back at the end of the
- 17:27Speaker 2: game to go see Mac Jr. after the game and stuff,
- 17:31Speaker 2: and I hear, Mac, is that you, Mac? And it's
- 17:34Speaker 2: Coy from Greensboro who has listened to the show for.
- 17:37Speaker 1: A long time. He has a son on Southeast Guilford.
- 17:41Speaker 6: What?
- 17:42Speaker 1: I'm like, it's crazy. Small world, Bones. Small world.
- 17:46Speaker 4: Did I tell you I met a listener at Harrah's
- 17:47Speaker 4: when I was there after you left in the men's room?
- 17:50Speaker 1: Oh, you did? Yeah, I got a hug by the urinals.
- 17:52Speaker 1: From a listener. Are we getting recognized statewide? How's that happening? Yeah,
- 17:55Speaker 1: a little bit of an awkward hug, by the way.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Can we maybe not hug? Hug by the urinals? Yeah.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Was it before or after business had been concluded?
- 18:02Speaker 1: Or during?
- 18:03Speaker 4: It was right before, and I was trying to get
- 18:07Speaker 4: to my spot, and this guy recognized me, and we...
- 18:10Speaker 4: Other people were watching... Oddly.
- 18:12Speaker 1: But wouldn't you rather.
- 18:13Speaker 3: Hug before you pee as opposed to after you pee?
- 18:16Speaker 1: I'd rather not hug at the urinals in general. Either way.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Finney loves male hugs so much. He would be the
- 18:22Speaker 2: type of guy that would hug you right in front
- 18:23Speaker 2: of the urinal. Finney right now is just saying, how
- 18:24Speaker 2: do I get hugs at the urinals? As long as
- 18:25Speaker 2: your zipper wasn't down, I think it's fair play.
- 18:28Speaker 4: No, the horse was in the stable. All right, we
- 18:32Speaker 4: come back on the Mac and Bone Show. A lot
- 18:34Speaker 4: of Panther stuff. Dave Canales with an interesting comment about
- 18:37Speaker 4: bringing D'Angelo Hall back on the staff and what offensive
- 18:41Speaker 4: line changes could be on the way. I suggest blocking somebody.
- 18:45Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 19:26Speaker 2: I guess I should mention in all our hubbub about
- 19:29Speaker 2: the busy basketball night.
- 19:31Speaker 1: We are basketball state.
- 19:33Speaker 2: But I guess I should mention, Bone, the Chicago Bears
- 19:35Speaker 2: took care of Seattle last night. 34-17 in front of
- 19:40Speaker 2: the vaunted 12s. That's a hell of a damn road win.
- 19:43Speaker 1: That is a... Blowing them out in their house? That's
- 19:46Speaker 1: a statement.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Their defense with Simmons already looks so much better. Mac, look,
- 19:52Speaker 4: you never want to write off the defending champs or
- 19:54Speaker 4: the Rams. There's a long way to go. But if
- 19:57Speaker 4: you list off the contenders in the NFC right now,
- 20:00Speaker 4: the Bears are... are going to be near the top
- 20:02Speaker 4: of that. Minnesota, obviously, defensively. San Francisco. But I'm not
- 20:07Speaker 4: shocked if the Bears are playing in mid-February. That's how
- 20:09Speaker 4: good that team can be. They just plugged Jeffrey Simmons in.
- 20:12Speaker 4: He got six tackles, two TFLs, and a sack. Like,
- 20:15Speaker 4: literally been there for like five days, four days.
- 20:17Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yes, they are. The Super Bowl talk will
- 20:21Speaker 1: be insane in that town. J.J.
- 20:23Speaker 6: Watt.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Insane, and it should be insane in that town.
- 20:25Speaker 4: Someone asked J.J. Watt about it on Twitter, and I
- 20:27Speaker 4: was actually thinking about it. I was thinking, what? What
- 20:31Speaker 4: position in the NFL, because, Mac, you and I no
- 20:33Speaker 4: longer play the game at the highest level, what position
- 20:37Speaker 4: is easiest just to step right in within a week
- 20:40Speaker 4: and go in there and play?
- 20:42Speaker 1: Someone asked J.J. Watt that question.
- 20:43Speaker 4: He said it's defensive tackle because it's such a reactionary position.
- 20:47Speaker 4: You need to know some of the lingo and the language,
- 20:50Speaker 4: but in terms of your role and what you're asked
- 20:52Speaker 4: to do, You can go in in a week and
- 20:54Speaker 4: figure that out.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Fight the big dudes on the other side and go
- 20:58Speaker 1: get the ball.
- 20:58Speaker 4: Some positions it takes a long time, but he said, no,
- 21:01Speaker 4: our position, we got to know the wording of it all,
- 21:03Speaker 4: but we have one job and that's to get after
- 21:05Speaker 4: the quarterback.
- 21:05Speaker 2: That definitely makes sense. No doubt about it. All right,
- 21:08Speaker 2: let's get back to the Panthers. A team bone that
- 21:10Speaker 2: we are not talking Super Bowl about. Even my homer
- 21:13Speaker 2: behind ain't finding any way to do that right now. Okay,
- 21:16Speaker 2: so injury updates. Will Lee is day-to-day. Canals, I'm just
- 21:21Speaker 2: going to, I'm just going to paraphrase these real quick.
- 21:23Speaker 2: And then we're going to get to some of the
- 21:25Speaker 2: juicier stuff that Dave Canal said yesterday at his presser.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Marco Wilson will keep starting. Jalen Phillips trending in the
- 21:34Speaker 2: right direction. Seems like maybe there's a chance bone. Let's
- 21:38Speaker 2: get to, let's start with the offensive line. I know
- 21:40Speaker 2: I lied to you, Fitty, about what we're starting with,
- 21:42Speaker 2: but let's start with the offensive line because that includes
- 21:45Speaker 2: the news bone that a lot of people are waiting for.
- 21:48Speaker 1: On Brady Christensen.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Canales said on Friday at his presser that, hey, they
- 21:53Speaker 2: are looking at, you know, anything. They could, they, looking
- 21:56Speaker 2: at changes personnel-wise to the O-line to try to turn
- 21:59Speaker 2: that unit around and, uh, sounds like Brady Christensen might
- 22:02Speaker 2: be involved in that.
- 22:04Speaker 8: For the offensive line, that's something that we're still discussing.
- 22:07Speaker 8: I don't really want to go into detail about what
- 22:09Speaker 8: that looks like, but, um, I will say this, Brady Christensen,
- 22:12Speaker 8: we're going to open up his 21-day window to be
- 22:15Speaker 8: able to see where he's at from a football standpoint.
- 22:17Speaker 8: He's healthy. He's strong. He's fit. He's ready to go.
- 22:21Speaker 8: But we got to get some football under his belt here.
- 22:23Speaker 8: So that'll be a good addition to the group to
- 22:26Speaker 8: evaluate where he can help us potentially. But as far
- 22:29Speaker 8: as the rest of the group goes, you know, we
- 22:32Speaker 8: know collectively as a group that from the coaching staff
- 22:36Speaker 8: all the way through the quarterback position groups, the offensive line,
- 22:40Speaker 8: working through some different things in the past game. That's
- 22:43Speaker 8: something that we're really thinking about and working through right now.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Can Brady stand upright and just get in the way?
- 22:50Speaker 4: The bar's not set high. Just stand upright, and we'll
- 22:53Speaker 4: hold him up if we have to. Just get in
- 22:55Speaker 4: the way of the other team. That's all we need
- 22:57Speaker 4: out of you, Brady. That would be an improvement. And
- 22:59Speaker 4: don't injure the other guys on the other side.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Of the line.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Here's the great question, though. What position is the best
- 23:06Speaker 2: one to plug Brady Christensen in at? Because there's multiple
- 23:09Speaker 2: answers to that question.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Brady, take your pick, big dog.
- 23:11Speaker 2: There's multiple answers to that question. Brady Christensen has had
- 23:15Speaker 2: successful stints at right guard, center, and left guard. Played
- 23:20Speaker 2: tackle all his college career until Matt Rule said, this
- 23:25Speaker 2: dude's got little alligator baby arms. I could argue bone,
- 23:29Speaker 2: get Rasheed Walker out of there. I could argue get
- 23:32Speaker 2: Luke Fortner out of there. And if poor Damian Lewis
- 23:35Speaker 2: stays hurt here and it extends longer than just Last week,
- 23:39Speaker 2: you could say plug him in at left guard.
- 23:41Speaker 1: You know?
- 23:42Speaker 4: Yeah, there's really anywhere you could go on that. Center's
- 23:45Speaker 4: intriguing because it's been such a big problem there. But,
- 23:48Speaker 4: I mean, I guess just anywhere that he fits in,
- 23:50Speaker 4: I guess he helps. Matt, your guy, Corey Bullock, had
- 23:54Speaker 4: a nice PFF grade against the Green Bay the other day.
- 23:57Speaker 4: So it's a little intrigued by him here.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Well, the problem is he got hurt. We can't have
- 24:02Speaker 1: nice things. That's right. We can't have O-line. And I
- 24:05Speaker 1: don't know how long it's going to be. Canales didn't
- 24:07Speaker 1: mention it. Forgot about that. We'll find out on a
- 24:08Speaker 1: work Wednesday.
- 24:10Speaker 4: Gosh, I remember back when I got really excited about
- 24:13Speaker 4: Corey Bullock about 30 seconds ago.
- 24:15Speaker 1: He played solid in the Detroit game, too. Yeah, he did.
- 24:18Speaker 2: There's something there with him. He played solid. And again,
- 24:20Speaker 2: you just said it earlier. I mean, it doesn't mean
- 24:22Speaker 2: he's Larry Allen. But, like, he looked better than... Walker
- 24:27Speaker 2: Fortner Freeling.
- 24:29Speaker 4: Yes.
- 24:30Speaker 2: You know, but that wouldn't be hard to do last week.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Canales basically talked about the meetings bone that they've been
- 24:37Speaker 2: having meetings with the leadership council, the players on the
- 24:40Speaker 2: leadership council, the team meeting with the defense yesterday to
- 24:43Speaker 2: kind of talk through.
- 24:44Speaker 1: He said there was sadness.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Because they lost, you know, Avero, their leader, and Jonathan Cooley,
- 24:49Speaker 2: a guy they loved. He also, Bone, talked about spending
- 24:53Speaker 2: the weekend, long weekend, at the stadium, no off days
- 24:59Speaker 2: for the staff, and him meeting with the defensive staff,
- 25:02Speaker 2: trying to kind of figure out where we go from
- 25:04Speaker 2: here and what they want to do differently. There was
- 25:09Speaker 2: an interesting Q & A, Fitty, about... Canales mentioning on
- 25:15Speaker 2: Friday about unlocking players defensively.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Listen to this.
- 25:20Speaker 2: This is Alex Zetlow following up from Friday. He made
- 25:24Speaker 2: a comment, Bone, about unlocking players. Listen to this exchange here.
- 25:29Speaker 7: When we spoke to you last on Friday, you mentioned
- 25:34Speaker 7: accentuating how this move on defense is meant in part
- 25:41Speaker 7: to accentuate the best qualities of your defensive team, your
- 25:45Speaker 7: defensive personnel. Are there any particular players that you hope
- 25:50Speaker 7: is unlocked by this move?
- 25:52Speaker 8: There certainly are multiple. I just don't really want to
- 25:54Speaker 8: get into the specifics of what that looks like because,
- 25:57Speaker 8: you know, at this point, that's something we're working through.
- 26:01Speaker 8: And again, it's just, it's a competitive advantage for us
- 26:04Speaker 8: to be able to work on that without talking about it.
- 26:07Speaker 2: So who are the guys, Bone, that quote unquote, can
- 26:11Speaker 2: be unlocked with Todd Walsh running the show and not.
- 26:14Speaker 1: A Giro Vero run the show. I mean, who can
- 26:17Speaker 1: be unlocked? I mean, Derrick Brown, to a degree.
- 26:20Speaker 4: That was the best of Derrick Brown was what I
- 26:23Speaker 4: was thinking because of the D-line background that Walsh has.
- 26:26Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I guess that's the first guy I
- 26:30Speaker 4: thought of. I mean, I think Derrick Brown's been better
- 26:32Speaker 4: the last couple weeks.
- 26:35Speaker 2: When I watched the game back Sunday night, I was noticing, oh,
- 26:38Speaker 2: my God, he's dominating a lot of scrimmage in the
- 26:39Speaker 2: run game. Now, the problem is we didn't breathe on
- 26:43Speaker 2: Jordan Love all night in the pass rush game.
- 26:47Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think of other guys.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Tyrell Dodson's a talented linebacker that we're not using. I
- 26:52Speaker 2: know a lot of people want to see a 4-3.
- 26:54Speaker 2: I don't know, but it didn't sound like we're going
- 26:56Speaker 2: to see that. Can Alice mention something about a 3-4
- 26:58Speaker 2: base yesterday? But I'm trying to figure out. We've got
- 27:01Speaker 2: a ton of guys hurt. Who else are we unlocking?
- 27:05Speaker 4: It's been a really quiet year for Merrig, right? Back
- 27:07Speaker 4: in the secondary, he has not been what he was
- 27:10Speaker 4: last year. That's another guy that probably haven't really even
- 27:14Speaker 4: talked about him a whole lot either way this year.
- 27:16Speaker 4: It's not really as impactful.
- 27:18Speaker 1: No, definitely not.
- 27:19Speaker 4: Maybe in the run game, you unlock him a little
- 27:21Speaker 4: bit more to help stop the run.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy blitzes, too. We haven't really seen
- 27:26Speaker 2: it as much from him, like successful. They tried the
- 27:30Speaker 2: other night. Backwoods Barbecue? No, Backwoods B. Backwoods B says,
- 27:37Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought that said barbecue.
- 27:39Speaker 1: That's our show right there. It all goes to food.
- 27:42Speaker 2: He says Ransom and Simmons is who he's saying. I
- 27:46Speaker 2: don't know if they, I mean, I guess different coordinator,
- 27:48Speaker 2: but I don't know if they view Isaiah Simmons defensively.
- 27:51Speaker 1: We we lead to these special teams ransom's not been
- 27:55Speaker 1: used as much lately.
- 27:56Speaker 4: It's been wheelie a lot back there it has been
- 27:58Speaker 4: yeah it has been um so i'm still very high
- 28:01Speaker 4: on that kid that kid's got a bright bright future
- 28:03Speaker 4: yeah he's young and talented both man on my bony
- 28:06Speaker 4: bright future rankings okay okay when it loves to be
- 28:08Speaker 4: released bone uh sometime mid-may finney marla was up there
- 28:12Speaker 4: last year and it will go have a dope he's
- 28:14Speaker 4: in love now he's.
- 28:16Speaker 1: He's in love.
- 28:17Speaker 2: You always saw this coming, Bone? You always felt like
- 28:19Speaker 2: Fitty had it in him, huh?
- 28:20Speaker 4: The one thing I know, though, even though Fitty's in
- 28:22Speaker 4: love right now, he will not be skipping out on
- 28:24Speaker 4: a huge college football Saturday. I know my guy will
- 28:26Speaker 4: be locked in the whole day on Saturday.
- 28:29Speaker 1: All day, right, Fit Dog?
- 28:30Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not happening.
- 28:34Speaker 2: This is probably the biggest college football Saturday of the
- 28:38Speaker 2: season with six ranked matchups.
- 28:41Speaker 4: Mack and I are going to watch together at his house,
- 28:43Speaker 4: and we're going to invite you over.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you hang, Fit?
- 28:45Speaker 3: I got to do some babysitting on Saturday.
- 28:50Speaker 1: Not yours, right?
- 28:51Speaker 2: But only, here's the thing, but only for like maybe
- 28:55Speaker 2: one of the games?
- 28:56Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 28:56Speaker 1: How long is it going on? I mean, we're going
- 28:58Speaker 1: noon to midnight here. You got all day.
- 29:01Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we're scheduled from 2 in the afternoon
- 29:04Speaker 5: until 11 o'clock at night.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Oh, dang! Man, is this man not a football guy anymore, Bob? Well,
- 29:10Speaker 1: we're going to have to invite Flander over now to
- 29:12Speaker 1: watch the game with us, I guess. Where is the
- 29:14Speaker 1: football guy? We used to know and love him. What
- 29:16Speaker 1: has Matty done with him? It was a month ago
- 29:18Speaker 1: you yelled at Mac for not being a football guy.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I know, man.
- 29:20Speaker 6: One month.
- 29:21Speaker 1: God, and I let that get me so mad because
- 29:24Speaker 1: I knew. I knew this man. I knew what this
- 29:27Speaker 1: man was about ready to become. And it's beautiful, though, Finney. No,
- 29:31Speaker 1: we're happy for you. The love is beautiful. Yay love.
- 29:34Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 29:34Speaker 2: Everybody else can cheer their football teams on Saturday. I'm
- 29:37Speaker 2: going to do a yay love chant on Saturday. Yay love.
- 29:42Speaker 1: You'll be able to watch the games, though, Fit. If
- 29:45Speaker 1: it's only like one child, it's no big deal.
- 29:47Speaker 3: There's three of them.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Oh, jeez. Yeah, y'all can't even run man-to-man. You might
- 29:53Speaker 1: have to have a meeting with Kid Alice on who
- 29:54Speaker 1: to unlock.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Oh, you might have to lock some kids in a
- 29:59Speaker 2: closet or something to be able to watch some ball.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Anyway, Scary Banana says, it's amazing what a woman will
- 30:06Speaker 2: do to a man. This dude says, not since Bill
- 30:09Speaker 2: Belichick have I seen a guy so distracted from football
- 30:12Speaker 2: by a woman.
- 30:14Speaker 4: I'll be at the Denver game on Sunday with Tara back.
- 30:19Speaker 4: She just found out. uh, my recent track record of
- 30:22Speaker 4: going to games. And now I'm afraid she might try
- 30:25Speaker 4: to sell her ticket here.
- 30:26Speaker 2: But she hasn't, she's got to be there because she
- 30:28Speaker 2: can maybe counteract your bad luck.
- 30:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:30Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Trust me. There's a lot
- 30:31Speaker 1: of that. That's what we're hoping for.
- 30:32Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Oh man.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Anyway, plus the Panthers right now are in such a
- 30:36Speaker 2: sad state. The last two weeks, we can't possibly blame
- 30:39Speaker 2: it on bone. Rasheed Walker going to get to blame.
- 30:41Speaker 4: How about the fact that it's a three point spread
- 30:43Speaker 4: back in this game? It's a three point spread. I
- 30:46Speaker 4: know that it, The Panthers get three for being at home,
- 30:49Speaker 4: but I thought it might be a little bit higher
- 30:51Speaker 4: than that. But I guess Denver's coming off their big win,
- 30:55Speaker 4: so maybe some people are thinking it could be a
- 30:57Speaker 4: letdown spot for Denver, perhaps.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Early start for them, traveling east. I don't know, man.
- 31:03Speaker 2: I'm not the right guy to talk about right now
- 31:05Speaker 2: in terms of confidence for the Panthers. Maybe I'll get
- 31:07Speaker 2: there by Friday.
- 31:09Speaker 1: That smugly dude writing his pursed lips in town.
- 31:11Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this D'Angelo Hall thing. addition
- 31:16Speaker 2: to the staff, re-addition to the staff. Of course, D'Angelo
- 31:18Speaker 2: was on the staff phone for a short period there,
- 31:22Speaker 2: left a couple of years ago, and has been doing
- 31:26Speaker 2: some stuff. I hear on Providence, I don't know what
- 31:28Speaker 2: the role is. I don't know if anybody out there
- 31:30Speaker 2: kind of knows, but some sort of helping out the
- 31:33Speaker 2: Providence Day staff. and he was still in town, which
- 31:36Speaker 2: is Dave Canales mentioned. They found him in the neighborhood. Listen,
- 31:42Speaker 2: listen to this. As Dave talks about bringing back D'Angelo Hall.
- 31:46Speaker 8: I'm just fortunate that D Hall's in the neighborhood. You know,
- 31:49Speaker 8: he's in Charlotte here with his family and we were
- 31:52Speaker 8: able to have some really productive conversations, you know, on
- 31:56Speaker 8: the eve of Cooley not being here and, and he
- 32:00Speaker 8: was excited about it. So we kind of went back
- 32:02Speaker 8: and forth and, Um, next thing you know, we got
- 32:04Speaker 8: a guy with a lot of playing experience, a guy that's, uh,
- 32:07Speaker 8: excited about coaching, excited about, uh, making an impact on
- 32:11Speaker 8: our group and, uh, really challenging these guys to continue
- 32:14Speaker 8: to take the next steps for their development. Um, so
- 32:17Speaker 8: very fortunate, uh, to be able to get, you know,
- 32:19Speaker 8: D Hall's energy, his experience and all those things back
- 32:22Speaker 8: in the building.
- 32:23Speaker 1: And Alice was walking the dog and said, oh, that's right.
- 32:25Speaker 1: You live in the neighborhood. We need some help coaching
- 32:28Speaker 1: the corners. Hey, good coaching. Always on alert.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Mack, now, someone's going to text in, what if Sean
- 32:32Speaker 4: McDermott's walking down the street?
- 32:35Speaker 1: Bring him in, too.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Is he living in the same neighborhood? All right, now,
- 32:38Speaker 2: here's the interesting one. You got a job. Listen to
- 32:42Speaker 2: this cut, Bone. Here's the interesting clip about D'Angelo Hall
- 32:46Speaker 2: as Bone snorts, cracking himself up over there.
- 32:49Speaker 1: You got a job. Bring in your recycling bins.
- 32:55Speaker 2: I saw that he was a diligent recycler and I
- 32:58Speaker 2: thought it was a guy we could trust our corners with.
- 33:00Speaker 1: See you at the HOA. All right. So right here,
- 33:04Speaker 1: this is a kind of juicy.
- 33:07Speaker 2: He's asked, I think by Mike K at the end
- 33:09Speaker 2: of the presser, why D'Angelo Hall now, and listen to
- 33:13Speaker 2: what he says.
- 33:15Speaker 8: You know, my personal observation of D Hall, um, and
- 33:19Speaker 8: the way that he, you know, courageously, you know, challenge
- 33:22Speaker 8: the status quo. And, um, ask for guys to play
- 33:27Speaker 8: certain techniques, voice his opinions. That's something that I really value.
- 33:34Speaker 8: People that aren't afraid to offer up their expertise, their experience,
- 33:40Speaker 8: just the different things that are important to them. And
- 33:44Speaker 8: so just knowing that, knowing his heart for wanting to
- 33:47Speaker 8: help these guys, the development and all that, for me,
- 33:51Speaker 8: it was just like his... His name was the first
- 33:54Speaker 8: name that came up in my mind when I was
- 33:55Speaker 8: thinking about making sure we have enough coaching coverage for
- 33:58Speaker 8: our players. Where Ronaldo, he's taken the whole secondary, but
- 34:02Speaker 8: then we can have somebody continuing to develop the corners outside.
- 34:05Speaker 2: He said D'Angelo Hall, when he was here the first time,
- 34:08Speaker 2: courageously challenged the status quo and asked guys to play
- 34:12Speaker 2: certain techniques. And he left a couple of years ago.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Him and Averro not on the same page?
- 34:19Speaker 1: Also.
- 34:19Speaker 2: Was he against some of the stuff Averro wanted the
- 34:23Speaker 2: DBs to do?
- 34:24Speaker 4: Also, completely different personality than Averro. There's a fire and
- 34:28Speaker 4: a get up in your face mentality to D'Angelo Hall.
- 34:30Speaker 4: That's not Averro's style. And when you change coaches, Matt,
- 34:34Speaker 4: we think about it a lot of times with Head coaches,
- 34:37Speaker 4: you go opposite of what you had a lot of times.
- 34:39Speaker 4: So I do wonder if they wanted to bring in
- 34:41Speaker 4: a certain personality to the staff that was opposite of
- 34:44Speaker 4: what Averro had to do what we just talked about.
- 34:47Speaker 4: And D'Angelo Hall just happened to fit the mold, and
- 34:49Speaker 4: he's here, of someone that's opposite of Averro to maybe
- 34:53Speaker 4: light a fire in some of these guys.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Yeah. So it kind of makes a little bit of sense.
- 34:56Speaker 1: That could be part of it, but that was a
- 34:58Speaker 1: telling clip. It was.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Courageously challenged the status quo. And he left here, right?
- 35:05Speaker 1: And no one really knew why he left.
- 35:07Speaker 2: It's like, Avero's gone, now is that the green flag
- 35:10Speaker 2: to bring him back? Like, that's kind of an interesting
- 35:12Speaker 2: one there, and sounds like there'll be some different, you know,
- 35:16Speaker 2: techniques and stuff coached up with D. Hall coming back.
- 35:19Speaker 2: I bet a guy that's been known to challenge the
- 35:21Speaker 2: old quo. Courageously, very courageously, you have done it. Let's
- 35:25Speaker 2: see here. A couple of text bone of note. This
- 35:28Speaker 2: texter says, you guys do realize that Dave did not
- 35:31Speaker 2: mean that D'Angelo Hall was literally in his neighborhood. Meant
- 35:34Speaker 2: he was still living in Charlotte.
- 35:35Speaker 4: No, I think he was outside and he drove by
- 35:38Speaker 4: and he could have was yelled out the window.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Hey, D.
- 35:40Speaker 6: Hall.
- 35:41Speaker 1: You want to challenge the quote?
- 35:43Speaker 2: Yes, I think we did understand that, although Bone is
- 35:47Speaker 2: taking this very far, so I'm not sure. But I
- 35:49Speaker 2: think we do understand that, and we're just being silly. Secondly,
- 35:54Speaker 2: a lot of comments coming in about the Fit Dog, Bone,
- 35:59Speaker 2: and what is happening with Fitty here.
- 36:01Speaker 4: Uniform Ned says, does this mean Mr. Saturday Night no
- 36:07Speaker 4: longer exists? That was Fitty's ball-watching nickname.
- 36:12Speaker 2: I knew it didn't involve anything else other than that.
- 36:16Speaker 1: Now he's Mr. Saturday 2 p.m.
- 36:18Speaker 2: This dude says Finney went from the date zero defense
- 36:21Speaker 2: to the cover three kids defense.
- 36:23Speaker 1: 704, that's a good one there, man.
- 36:28Speaker 2: That's a good one. Trophy Husband had a similar joke.
- 36:30Speaker 2: It's a little dirtier, though. So I just left that.
- 36:34Speaker 2: I went with the less dirty one.
- 36:35Speaker 1: What did he say?
- 36:36Speaker 4: Where's he at? I mean, it's not terrible, but anyway.
- 36:40Speaker 4: He's usually not a dirty comic. No, it's not terrible.
- 36:44Speaker 4: But anyway, Fit Dog, we're happy for you, baby, but
- 36:46Speaker 4: we will mock you incessantly.
- 36:48Speaker 3: That's fine.
- 36:50Speaker 4: When we come back on the Mac and Bone Show,
- 36:52Speaker 4: we got a lot of college football stuff, including tonight, Mac.
- 36:55Speaker 4: The first college football playoff rankings are out and so
- 36:59Speaker 4: much more to talk about locally as well.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 37:25Speaker 6: We're 5-3, A & M upcoming. Yeah. At Arkansas, Georgia,
- 37:35Speaker 6: that's the massive one. And then at Clemson, I mean, Clemson's,
- 37:38Speaker 6: you know, they are lucky to not get in their
- 37:41Speaker 6: own damn way. So, seemingly, I mean, if they play
- 37:44Speaker 6: like they did Saturday, they can whoop anybody.
- 37:46Speaker 1: I don't care, Georgia included.
- 37:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:49Speaker 6: But, I mean, how do you not look at this
- 37:51Speaker 6: if you're a game guy and say, buddy, buddy, the
- 37:54Speaker 6: worst case, I think, worst case here is 8-4 when
- 37:58Speaker 6: you were left for dead three weeks ago. I mean,
- 38:02Speaker 6: that's a hell of a place to be in, and
- 38:04Speaker 6: I get it. You know, you don't want to– this
- 38:06Speaker 6: is an unpredictable season. You shouldn't be already looking ahead
- 38:09Speaker 6: to Georgia. But if you can beat Georgia, which is
- 38:12Speaker 6: not going to be a given– It's going to be
- 38:14Speaker 6: difficult as hell. I still think Georgia's the best team.
- 38:16Speaker 6: We'll get to them in a minute. But if you
- 38:18Speaker 6: can beat them, Shane, how the hell do you keep
- 38:20Speaker 6: this team out of the playoff?
- 38:24Speaker 1: I don't think you can. There you go. That's a
- 38:27Speaker 1: very SEC podcast right there.
- 38:29Speaker 2: SEC Mike and Cousin Shane, baby.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Bone, you got them on your Gamecock wagon.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yesterday, you realized that Gamecock Fitty has arrived on the
- 38:38Speaker 2: Gamecock wagon, hyping them up as the best three-loss team
- 38:42Speaker 2: in all of the land. Today, you realize SEC Mike
- 38:46Speaker 2: and Cousin Shane are on there.
- 38:48Speaker 1: And I would like to join the group, Boney.
- 38:52Speaker 2: If they beat Georgia and can win out and get
- 38:54Speaker 2: to 9-3... With the wins that they would then have
- 38:57Speaker 2: at that point, Bone, Florida and Tennessee, Oklahoma, I'm not
- 39:02Speaker 2: sure if that's that good anymore.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Georgia would be in there. And then Georgia, obviously. I'm
- 39:06Speaker 1: going to be right there stumping for them, man.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Yeah, the issue there would be then all of a sudden, Mac, oh,
- 39:12Speaker 4: how things would change. Then Clemson's playing spoiler to the
- 39:16Speaker 4: Gamecock season, which is all new element to really that there. Mac,
- 39:21Speaker 4: how can any Gamecock fans sit here thinking, and not
- 39:24Speaker 4: clamor for the future 2014 playoff. They saw what happened
- 39:27Speaker 4: two years ago, what's happening this year. If the Gamecocks, Mag,
- 39:31Speaker 4: had 2014 playoffs, they'd probably be in a couple years ago.
- 39:35Speaker 4: They'd probably make it this year. So as Gamecocks, they
- 39:38Speaker 4: desperately need the 2014 playoff. They'd be in all the time. Yeah,
- 39:41Speaker 4: but it's true.
- 39:43Speaker 1: It's true.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Although I will point out NC State would have been
- 39:46Speaker 2: in it five times from 2014 if they had a
- 39:49Speaker 2: 2014 playoff.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Shout out Dave Dorn. Hope you're enjoying yourself and your
- 39:55Speaker 1: free time.
- 39:56Speaker 4: You've kind of been riding this Gamecock wave in the
- 39:58Speaker 4: last handful of weeks. I'm a little bit cautious of
- 40:02Speaker 4: where Gamecock Fitties emerging from. I thought he was anti-Gamecocks.
- 40:07Speaker 4: Now all of a sudden he's sending us links to
- 40:10Speaker 4: people chatting about the Gamecocks in the playoffs. Where is
- 40:15Speaker 4: Cousin Fitty coming from all of a sudden during this
- 40:17Speaker 4: whole thing?
- 40:18Speaker 3: Bowen, I grew up in Gamecock country. I grew up
- 40:20Speaker 3: in the.
- 40:23Speaker 5: And the neck where a lot of their fan base
- 40:25Speaker 5: resides out there in Lancaster County.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Hey, why are you calling Gamecock fans necks? Yeah, what
- 40:28Speaker 1: was that about? That ain't nice. You can't say that.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Come on, Finney.
- 40:31Speaker 5: So, look, respect the passion, Shane Beamer. You know what's
- 40:36Speaker 5: serious when I'm giving Shane Beamer props? Because y'all know
- 40:38Speaker 5: how I feel about his father. Like, I hate his father.
- 40:42Speaker 5: This is the best three-loss team, I think, in college
- 40:43Speaker 5: football if they went out.
- 40:44Speaker 6: Why?
- 40:45Speaker 1: Because he flirted with your heels and didn't go there?
- 40:47Speaker 1: Who hates Frank Beamer?
- 40:47Speaker 3: Oh, I can't stand him.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Because he flirted with the heels and didn't go there.
- 40:50Speaker 5: He told Dick Bedore he was coming and then landed
- 40:54Speaker 5: back in Blacksburg, some great college town that is, and decided.
- 40:57Speaker 1: To stay in Virginia Tech. The Bailey family met him
- 41:00Speaker 1: at the airport and talked him into staying. All right,
- 41:02Speaker 1: come on. That's how the story goes. 6.49 a.m.
- 41:04Speaker 4: We've got to tell Bailey. 50... goes after Blacksburg.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Fake Moon sends an interesting text, says, did we go
- 41:15Speaker 2: to a 2014 playoff already? That's the only way South
- 41:18Speaker 2: Carolina makes it. They would be in the mix. It's
- 41:21Speaker 2: probably going to be, and I know people are shocked
- 41:23Speaker 2: by this, there's probably going to be multiple three-loss SEC teams,
- 41:27Speaker 2: and the resumes are going to be compared. One of
- 41:30Speaker 2: the problems is if they end up tied at a
- 41:32Speaker 2: three-loss situation with Alabama, and Alabama kicked their rear end,
- 41:37Speaker 2: If they end up in one with Kentucky, Kentucky, although
- 41:40Speaker 2: they only have one loss right now, and Kentucky beat them,
- 41:42Speaker 2: those are possible things that could be a snag. But
- 41:45Speaker 2: they will be considered bone with that resume. You've got
- 41:49Speaker 2: to project what a win over Georgia would do.
- 41:52Speaker 4: What would a win over Kentucky look like at this
- 41:55Speaker 4: point if they actually would have hung on in that game?
- 41:58Speaker 4: You know, Bama's the one that no doubt they got
- 42:02Speaker 4: their doors blown out.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Blown off. Blown out. Blown off.
- 42:06Speaker 5: The one that's going to hurt them is what happened
- 42:08Speaker 5: against Camario Taylor and Mississippi State.
- 42:11Speaker 4: Both of those games, if they could just have one back,
- 42:14Speaker 4: especially Kentucky based off how good they are, that would
- 42:17Speaker 4: be another ranked win.
- 42:18Speaker 1: They'd have one less loss. That would be.
- 42:20Speaker 4: That would have been a massive one there. They almost
- 42:23Speaker 4: had him, and they had the lead.
- 42:24Speaker 1: They were in overtime. Let me ask you this.
- 42:26Speaker 2: That's just a Gamecock thing. It would have, should have,
- 42:27Speaker 2: could have. You would think, though, that the committee, I
- 42:29Speaker 2: would hope, would look at the... That Mississippi State team,
- 42:33Speaker 2: way different than the one that's playing right now.
- 42:36Speaker 1: They've lost their mojo without Kamario Taylor.
- 42:38Speaker 5: If LSU loses Saturday, they become a three-loss team. Who
- 42:42Speaker 5: do you think is better? South Carolina or LSU? LSU
- 42:47Speaker 5: has the brand. But I'd make the argument I think
- 42:51Speaker 5: South Carolina right now is a better football team.
- 42:54Speaker 2: South Carolina's getting better every week right now, man. It's
- 42:56Speaker 2: coming together, dude. Defense is playing better, too. There are
- 42:59Speaker 2: so many teams in that mix, though, because Missouri's also
- 43:02Speaker 2: only got two.
- 43:02Speaker 1: All-Stars right now. So there's a lot of teams in there.
- 43:04Speaker 2: Let's get to uh some more news guys involving one
- 43:08Speaker 2: of t-bones teams um this is very nice you're involved
- 43:11Speaker 2: in everything um but this one's not quite as fun
- 43:14Speaker 2: bone this is manny diaz um being asked about the
- 43:18Speaker 2: job at his alma mater florida state being open and
- 43:23Speaker 2: the speculation that he could be a candidate this was
- 43:25Speaker 2: manny at his presser yesterday it's the same thing.
- 43:28Speaker 9: We talked about last year right last year my bag
- 43:30Speaker 9: for pat going to penn state you know i dressed
- 43:32Speaker 9: to the team last night i'm i'm Pretty made it
- 43:34Speaker 9: pretty clear. Really, really happy here.
- 43:36Speaker 3: Love being here.
- 43:38Speaker 9: Love going to work here every day. And anything we
- 43:41Speaker 9: focus on other than finding a way to beat NC
- 43:42Speaker 9: State is a distraction. So Internet rumors are going to
- 43:45Speaker 9: be Internet rumors.
- 43:46Speaker 1: I told I told coaches and players were the same.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 43:48Speaker 9: Everything's our players are, you know, going to go somewhere else.
- 43:51Speaker 2: Right.
- 43:51Speaker 9: So that's just that it's a cost of success, which
- 43:53Speaker 9: rather have than the alternatives.
- 43:56Speaker 1: So there you go. He's right back to last year.
- 43:58Speaker 2: The Penn State rumors came up because of his time
- 44:01Speaker 2: that he spent there or whatever. And the Florida State
- 44:05Speaker 2: thing's interesting because, man, he's an obvious candidate. But a
- 44:08Speaker 2: lot of people are pushing this Deion Sanders thing. Deion
- 44:11Speaker 2: Sanders back to Tallahassee. Brad Crawford had an interesting report, CBSSports.com,
- 44:18Speaker 2: that the powers that be in Florida State, there's many
- 44:20Speaker 2: in power there that don't want to bring in Deion
- 44:23Speaker 2: and his, quote, baggage. that he would bring to Florida State.
- 44:29Speaker 2: Is the baggage the tons of losses, or is it
- 44:31Speaker 2: the big personality?
- 44:33Speaker 4: Or the fact that we're still not sure he's a
- 44:34Speaker 4: good coach or not without Shador?
- 44:36Speaker 1: Yeah. And Travis Hunter.
- 44:39Speaker 4: Mack, I have a question that may seem kind of
- 44:41Speaker 4: crazy on the surface, but we were talking about it
- 44:43Speaker 4: this morning. Brandon Walker of Barstool was doing a bold
- 44:46Speaker 4: prediction segment last night, and he picked... James Franklin as
- 44:51Speaker 4: the guy that he thinks would go to Florida State
- 44:54Speaker 4: because they always have tied him into that job, I guess,
- 44:56Speaker 4: over the years. I don't think that would happen. Is
- 44:59Speaker 4: Florida State, Mac, right now all things considered with their
- 45:03Speaker 4: money problems, the pressure that goes in there, where you
- 45:06Speaker 4: are in that state with all the other teams down there,
- 45:10Speaker 4: is Florida State still a desirable job right now? It
- 45:16Speaker 4: feels severely diminished. If you're James Franklin right now, you
- 45:19Speaker 4: can become a god in Blacksburg. He's already got that
- 45:23Speaker 4: thing moving. You go to Florida State, there's a pressure.
- 45:26Speaker 4: It's one of those jobs where I almost feel you're
- 45:29Speaker 4: almost hired to be fired rather quickly at Florida State.
- 45:33Speaker 2: We talked about yesterday the Nebraska situation and how hard
- 45:36Speaker 2: it is to win right now. In all fairness to
- 45:38Speaker 2: Matt Rule, I know it's ugly and I know they're
- 45:39Speaker 2: blowing leads in the fourth, and I know he is
- 45:42Speaker 2: having some interesting press conference moments today. but like it's that,
- 45:47Speaker 2: that there's similarities there. You have an expectation to do
- 45:49Speaker 2: what Bobby Bowden did. And is it reasonable to do
- 45:52Speaker 2: that now? Although I will say that in the ACC bone, there's, there's,
- 45:57Speaker 2: there's games to be won.
- 45:57Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 45:58Speaker 2: There's playoff spots to be earned in the ACC. Let
- 46:01Speaker 2: me say something right now. I find it absurd to
- 46:04Speaker 2: think James Franklin would leave for Florida State. I do too.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Find it absolutely absurd. I think there's no chance whatsoever.
- 46:11Speaker 2: The money they have invested since James Franklin went there,
- 46:13Speaker 2: they are all the hell in. Why would he leave
- 46:16Speaker 2: what he is starting there and is off to a
- 46:18Speaker 2: pretty good start? Secondly, I'm looking at the athletic college
- 46:22Speaker 2: football budget rankings. They did the research and they figured
- 46:25Speaker 2: out how much money each school has. Florida State has
- 46:28Speaker 2: less than Virginia Tech.
- 46:30Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. To spend on personnel.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Like, it's just, to your point, it's not some... Florida
- 46:36Speaker 2: State barely has more than NC State.
- 46:38Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in some debt because all the coaches are fired.
- 46:41Speaker 1: I'm not a naive boob.
- 46:43Speaker 4: I understand that Manny Diaz, his name we brought up,
- 46:46Speaker 4: he may leave. My point in saying that, would there
- 46:49Speaker 4: be other opportunities, Matt, that would be better for Manny
- 46:52Speaker 4: Diaz than the pressure of going to the alma mater,
- 46:55Speaker 4: back to the state of Florida, where.
- 46:58Speaker 4: You can be successful there, Mac, and still end up
- 47:00Speaker 4: getting fired in three or four years. Manny Diaz very
- 47:03Speaker 4: well may leave, but I wonder if there's better opportunities
- 47:06Speaker 4: out there somewhere for Manny Diaz at Florida State.
- 47:07Speaker 1: It definitely feels risky.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Myron says Florida State not a top 30 job right now.
- 47:15Speaker 1: Tommy says... Let's see here. Tommy says.
- 47:19Speaker 2: And Florida State thinks the SEC and Big Ten are
- 47:22Speaker 2: salivating over them, but they're not. Yeah, I mean, there's
- 47:25Speaker 2: a report out there that the SEC is not interested
- 47:27Speaker 2: in Florida State because they already got that market covered.
- 47:29Speaker 2: They've already had that state covered in their footprint. So
- 47:33Speaker 2: are they really as desirable as they think they are?
- 47:35Speaker 2: Or are they the dude that breaks up with his
- 47:38Speaker 2: girlfriend who's at eight, thinks he can get nine and
- 47:40Speaker 2: tens and realizes I can't.
- 47:42Speaker 3: Made that mistake before.
- 47:43Speaker 1: Although I don't know. I don't know if the, but
- 47:46Speaker 1: you're happy now, I thought. Oh, I said before. Oh, okay.
- 47:49Speaker 6: Okay.
- 47:49Speaker 3: I learned from my mistakes in high school, Matt.
- 47:52Speaker 1: I don't even know. Is the ACC an eight? I
- 47:53Speaker 1: might have given them too much credit. Depends on your
- 47:56Speaker 1: beer goggles. Also, yeah.
- 47:59Speaker 2: How buzzed are you watching ACC football as to whether
- 48:01Speaker 2: or not you think it's an eight? It also needs
- 48:04Speaker 2: to be pointed out to add to the cluster F
- 48:06Speaker 2: that is Florida State.
- 48:08Speaker 1: They don't even have an AD to do the hiring
- 48:09Speaker 1: right now. That's a good point.
- 48:11Speaker 2: They fired Alford, their AD, as well. So they got
- 48:14Speaker 2: a lot to accomplish there, man. When we come back,
- 48:17Speaker 2: it's a hoop, scoop, boogie segment. Hornets with another disappointing loss.
- 48:21Speaker 2: College basketball opening night chatter, including another sluggish effort by
- 48:27Speaker 2: the Tar Heels.
- 48:28Speaker 4: We will react to that. Fitty was there. He'll give
- 48:30Speaker 4: us his thoughts as well. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.