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The Motherhood Rebrand · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Mums Group you actually want
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of. I'm Sophie Torber. I'm Kate Torber.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Amy Torber. And I'm so sorry to disappoint
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  Speaker 1: some of our listeners. Our mum won't be joining us
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  Speaker 1: for today's episode. There were calls to get her on
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  Speaker 1: as a fourth host. I can see why. She was
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  Speaker 1: a complete natural. She was. I mean, other than getting
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  Speaker 1: lots of fan mail for mum, we also had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of listeners asking us more about the Stork nappy service.
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  Speaker 1: And it got me wondering, like, Is this service still available? Well,
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  Speaker 1: so that was the service that would pick up all
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  Speaker 1: of our dirty sodden nappies. Well, not just ours, but
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  Speaker 1: other people's out there. Dirty, stinky nappies. You could just
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  Speaker 1: put them on your doorstep and this company would come
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  Speaker 1: and clean them, bring them back nice and fresh. So
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  Speaker 1: it does still exist in Adelaide. However, it's merged with
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  Speaker 1: another company. I want to know how well this business
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  Speaker 1: is actually going because I don't know anyone who's using
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  Speaker 1: cloth nappies, whether they've got triplets or just one child. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they've obviously had to expand. So they're now known as
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  Speaker 1: the Adelaide Linen Service. And they deal with salon towels,
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  Speaker 1: childcare linen, medical centre massage, all those kinds of towels.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to get them as a sponsor on the
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  Speaker 1: Mums group, but we're just giving them a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a promo here. It was funny. My mother-in-law was like,
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  Speaker 1: Has Huggies contacted you yet for sponsorship after your mum's segment?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, we're still waiting. Well, Black and
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  Speaker 1: Gold's marketing team definitely wouldn't be reaching out, would they?
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  Speaker 1: They don't bloody exist anymore. So I'm assuming they wouldn't be.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why after they sold those shitty nappies. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's been two weeks since we've caught up with the
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  Speaker 1: Mums group. What is new? Well, I'm having a bit
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  Speaker 1: of an identity crisis, which, I mean, probably doesn't come
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  Speaker 1: as a surprise. I seem to have them all the time. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't to do with you trying to find a
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  Speaker 1: new hairstyle, is it? No, we won't go into that. No,
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  Speaker 1: let's go into it because you have been sharing photos
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  Speaker 1: in our group chats that you have got done via ChatGPT,
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  Speaker 1: not just of yourself with different coloured hair, different haircuts,
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  Speaker 1: but also your poor husband. Yeah. No, he asked me
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  Speaker 1: to put it in there. Yeah, but I'm sure he
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  Speaker 1: didn't ask you to send it to all of us. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I sent it to his family chat too. We had
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a laugh about it. Well, didn't he
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  Speaker 1: want everyone to vote on the best hairstyle? Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't actually the topic I was bringing to this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: but it was sparked by we have been uploading episodes– well,
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  Speaker 1: not episodes, like snippets of this podcast– And someone on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok said how awful my hair is and that I
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  Speaker 1: really need to change it up. No, they did not
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  Speaker 1: say that. They said that the blonde hair was, what
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  Speaker 1: was it? Washing you out. Washing you out. Washing me out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was just the room that you were in.
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  Speaker 1: You said it was my makeup actually. No, do you
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  Speaker 1: know what? I think it was because you're wearing black.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually wearing dark blue. I was wearing what
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  Speaker 1: I'm wearing right now. And there's actually a service that
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  Speaker 1: you can get where somebody matches your skin and hair
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  Speaker 1: color with the types of colours you should be wearing.
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  Speaker 1: So I think rather than going the drastic route of
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  Speaker 1: getting your whole hair changed, which I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: you're going to whinge about if you get it back
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  Speaker 1: to brunette. I think it hit a nerve with me
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  Speaker 1: because I kind of agreed. I haven't really been liking
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  Speaker 1: my hair very much and I sort of want to
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  Speaker 1: do maybe that old money blonde, switch it up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. See, I'm on that team. I'm going against Amy.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think you should do it because you whinge
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  Speaker 1: about your hair a lot. And I think that it
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  Speaker 1: would be nice to have, you know, something different. I mean, I...
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  Speaker 1: fought the urge to cut a bob when I was
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  Speaker 1: postpartum around one year on. But I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: also want to do something different with my hair. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just a rite of passage when you
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  Speaker 1: have a baby to do something different with your hair.
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  Speaker 1: You might hate it, but I mean, give it a whirl.
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  Speaker 1: The issue is most people do hate it. Remember when
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  Speaker 1: Steph Care Smith got that bob and everyone copied? See,
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  Speaker 1: Amy's just saying to keep my hair as it is
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  Speaker 1: for her own mental health because she knows how much
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  Speaker 1: I whinge about it. The reason I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: having this identity crisis is because I've had this realization
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  Speaker 1: that we are no longer the cool young people on
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  Speaker 1: the street. Like when we moved in, it was three
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  Speaker 1: years ago, like we were just about to get married.
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  Speaker 1: Like we were doing rentals to the house. We'd be
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  Speaker 1: out in the yard until it got dark. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't care what the time was. We wouldn't care
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  Speaker 1: if we were playing music or whatever. Anyway, and the
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  Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, our next door neighbors have been
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  Speaker 1: away and their uni student kids have been throwing all
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  Speaker 1: of these house parties and And they've got this basketball
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  Speaker 1: ring set up and they'll be playing basketball at 10
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  Speaker 1: o'clock at night. They had these girls over there all
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  Speaker 1: like giggling and laughing and they had their music blaring.
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  Speaker 1: And I just looked at my husband as we were
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  Speaker 1: trying to watch Netflix and I was like, can they
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  Speaker 1: shut the fuck up? Like our son's nursery is like
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  Speaker 1: backs onto where they were. I was just like fuming.
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  Speaker 1: Like I could see him on the monitor moving and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to go out there and
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  Speaker 1: say something. What were you meant to say? They're allowed
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  Speaker 1: to have a party. I was going to be like,
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  Speaker 1: shut up. Wait, what time was this? It was 10
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  Speaker 1: o'clock at night.
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  Speaker 2: 10?
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know. That's the sad thing. See, I
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  Speaker 1: have been known to ring the police on other house
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  Speaker 1: parties and this was before I had a child. No,
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  Speaker 1: remember we had these neighbours and Kate could hear them
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  Speaker 1: singing Kumbaya. Wait, who did you ring the police on? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: was it the police? No, you just yelled at them
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  Speaker 1: to shut up. Oh, maybe I just yelled at them. No.
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  Speaker 1: Weren't you like 25 at the time? Yeah, but it
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  Speaker 1: was like 2am. I had to go to work. Anyway. We,
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  Speaker 1: like Brandon and I love the movie Bad Neighbor. And
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  Speaker 1: when we were talking about it, we were like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, we're Rose Byrne and Seth Rogen. We're no
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  Speaker 1: longer Zac Efron and his frat party. To be fair,
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  Speaker 1: whenever were you those people? We never had big parties
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  Speaker 1: like that. Actually, my neighbors, they throw some wild parties
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  Speaker 1: because they also have kids in their twenties. And one
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  Speaker 1: time the girl that lives next door, she came over
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  Speaker 1: with a handwritten note And you could tell that she'd
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  Speaker 1: asked ChatGPT to script it. It was like, hello, good neighbor.
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  Speaker 1: Kind sir. Please, instead of calling the police, if you
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  Speaker 1: could call us and we'd be delighted to turn down.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually worse when they give you a note in
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  Speaker 1: a way because you feel like you can't actually complain
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  Speaker 1: about it. We had no notes at all. Dob them
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  Speaker 1: into their parents. No. Dale and I were the complete opposite.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime the neighbors have a party, we like to also
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  Speaker 1: invite friends over. And I don't know, it's something about,
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  Speaker 1: the two parties going on and you can almost like
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  Speaker 1: a vicariously living through the next door neighbours by listening in.
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember setting up decorations when we had our
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  Speaker 1: Christmas white party and the neighbours had like a pool
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  Speaker 1: party and I was eavesdropping on all of their conversations.
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  Speaker 1: It was really fascinating. Well, see, we were joking like
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  Speaker 1: in the movie when Rose Byrne and Seth Rogen are like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: their initial reaction was to call the police and like, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be cool. We'll be cool with them. We'll just
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  Speaker 1: come past with some drugs and say, some drugs? I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that we'd do this. I'm saying we were
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  Speaker 1: just joking like, keep it down. All we're going to
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  Speaker 1: say is keep it down. Anyway, that's been my past
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  Speaker 1: couple of weekends. It's been very exciting. Well, I had
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  Speaker 1: a moment this week where I was just super proud
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  Speaker 1: of my parenting because Jack asked me. Are you that mum?
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  Speaker 1: You're proud of your child, not your parenting. Wait till
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  Speaker 1: you hear what I'm going to say because you will agree.
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  Speaker 1: You're like that painful mum. I always say these videos
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  Speaker 1: and they're like that painful mum at the mums group.
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  Speaker 1: He sleeps 12 hours a night. My son likes to
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  Speaker 1: do times tables at night. Look, Amy, I was actually
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  Speaker 1: setting it up as a bit of a joke because
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  Speaker 1: what happened was Jack turned to me and asked if
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  Speaker 1: I could play on Spotify Getaway Car by Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, get away, Taylor Swift. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, yes, we can definitely play that because
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  Speaker 1: we've been listening to Play School soundtrack, The Wiggles, like
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  Speaker 1: these random other kids songs. I was so excited that
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  Speaker 1: he actually wanted to listen to it. His new favorite
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  Speaker 1: song at the moment is Hot and Cold by Katy Perry.
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  Speaker 1: I actually just turned on the like 10 second intro
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  Speaker 1: to Shiver by Ed Sheeran. He goes, Ed Sheeran. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm, moulding his mind with all
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  Speaker 1: these amazing teeny bopper singers. I'm really jealous because I'm
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  Speaker 1: now getting into the stage where I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: can listen to my podcast anymore. I think I need kids'
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  Speaker 1: music on. But do you know what I realised the
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  Speaker 1: other day? I realised that I could just play my
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  Speaker 1: music to Harry constantly. Like why even introduce them to
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  Speaker 1: that annoying crap? Because it's educational. Actually, I saw that
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  Speaker 1: because someone posted a TikTok of how their kid was
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  Speaker 1: demanding songs in the back and it's literally what my
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  Speaker 1: son does. And they're like, well, I just never introduced
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  Speaker 1: it and I never like caved into them saying to
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  Speaker 1: change the music. And I would actually say do it
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  Speaker 1: because some of the music drives me crazy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think Harry enjoys it that much. I've just been
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  Speaker 1: playing Harry music I like and he seems to really
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's actually quite sad because I originally played
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  Speaker 1: Jack the original Wiggles. You know, we've got Greg, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as the lead singer. That's the only one I play.
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  Speaker 1: And despite my efforts to make him like the original Wiggles,
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  Speaker 1: now he demands Hot Potato Locky's version. Ooh. And he's like, lucky, lucky.
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  Speaker 1: The other funny thing is he started to say, hey, Siri.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so like he requests a song. Oh, my God,
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  Speaker 1: your phone's just gone off because you've been saying it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have one of those? Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: But he'll say it and he'll try and request a song.
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  Speaker 1: Or the funniest thing is we are always on the
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  Speaker 1: phone to each other. And Amy was on the phone
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  Speaker 1: the other day and he goes, hey, Siri, turn Amy
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  Speaker 1: off and I was like oh and he did it
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  Speaker 1: to Nana the other day and I was like oh
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  Speaker 1: it's a bit awkward now it's actually very smart though
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  Speaker 1: I was very proud that's why I said I was
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  Speaker 1: it was a very proud mom my child's so smart
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  Speaker 1: it knows how to talk to Siri now Amy you
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  Speaker 1: had a parenting fail so not so much of a
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  Speaker 1: proud moment I mean maybe a shameful moment can we
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: call it a parenting fail or an auntie fail yeah
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  Speaker 1: so we had family dinner the other night at my
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  Speaker 1: parents house And for some reason, our dad bought a
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump mask when he went overseas. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: like a sort of, it's quite a realistic looking mask.
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  Speaker 1: It's bloody scary. It is scary. You can just see
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  Speaker 1: your eyes in it. Can we point out that he
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  Speaker 1: is not a MAGA supporter? No, he's not. It's quite
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  Speaker 1: against Donald Trump's policies. It was kind of an ironic purchase. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was. And basically, our dad had put it on
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  Speaker 1: last family dinner in front of all of us. So
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  Speaker 1: he had waited till all the little boys had gone
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  Speaker 1: to bed. as not to scare them. And might I add,
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  Speaker 1: we all commented how absolutely terrified the little boys would
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  Speaker 1: have been if they saw dad in said mask. So then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's fast forward to the week after and all the
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  Speaker 1: little boys were out in the family room. They were
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  Speaker 1: just getting ready to go to bed. They were playing cars,
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  Speaker 1: weren't they? Yeah. And Harry actually decided he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: crawl into the kitchen. And I saw the Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: mask sitting on the kitchen bench. And I thought, how
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: funny would it be if I walked back in holding
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  Speaker 1: Harry with this Donald Trump mask on? Like, come on,
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  Speaker 1: that's funny. I didn't even think about Jack because Jack's
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  Speaker 1: nearly two. He's a lot more with it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's talking to Siri, so he clearly knows what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I walked back in And Jack's face dropped. He was like.
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  Speaker 1: He literally turned grey. And it was that like flight
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  Speaker 1: or fight where he was in like, fuck, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the fuck to do. He froze. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: absolutely froze. And I was like, oh, I'll just quickly
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  Speaker 1: take the mask off. That was the worst thing you
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  Speaker 1: could have done. Yeah, so he can see it's me.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, what is going on? Because this man's
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: face is being ripped off and it's Amy under there. Yeah,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: because you literally have to like peel it. So it
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  Speaker 1: was his second where it looked like, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: peeling a face off. He's also like. Harry. I think
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  Speaker 1: he thought that Donald Trump was stealing Harry. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was terrified because he has a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a bromance going on with Harry at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, why is this terrifying man holding my mate?
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  Speaker 1: And the worst bit was we were meant to be
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  Speaker 1: putting him down to sleep. So he was so upset.
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  Speaker 1: Like he cried for ages after. Isn't it terrible when
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: your babies do go through that stage where they're just
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  Speaker 1: scared of men? And it's always like men with beards.
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  Speaker 1: So I remember taking Harry out to a cafe and
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  Speaker 1: this sweet old man was like, what a beautiful little
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  Speaker 1: boy and like just being so genuinely nice and Harry
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  Speaker 1: just burst into tears. You're like, I'm so sorry. It's
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: not actually you. Well, actually it is you. Did that
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: happen with our great uncle who doesn't have a baby?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, hello, Harry. I think we spoke about that one.
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  Speaker 1: He's also Canadian if any way. Hello, Harry.
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  Speaker 2: The internet loves to tell you how hard motherhood is
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  Speaker 2: and how miserable and long every day is and how
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: you can't wait for them to go to bed at
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: night and how each phase is harder than the next.
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  Speaker 2: Can we all just collectively agree to stop complaining about
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  Speaker 2: how hard everything is and just actually enjoy these beautiful
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  Speaker 2: little humans that we've created? I'm not saying being a
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: mom isn't hard because it definitely is the hardest thing
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  Speaker 2: I've ever done, but it's also the most amazing thing
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  Speaker 2: and the most rewarding thing.
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  Speaker 1: A new movement is emerging online. Mums in their droves
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  Speaker 1: are calling for an end to raw motherhood content, instead
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: encouraging mums to start romanticising their motherhood journeys. It's really
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  Speaker 1: funny because we had a similar conversation with a friend
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  Speaker 1: the other day. So she's on the fence about becoming
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  Speaker 1: a mum and she was saying that she's been seeing
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  Speaker 1: all of these negative videos about how shit it is
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: postpartum and vlogs where people are showing the real reality
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  Speaker 1: of being a mum and And she said, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: it's putting her off. Like she would actually like to
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: see it glamorized a bit so she can take the
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  Speaker 1: plunge and have a child. Like she almost wants to
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: be a bit disillusioned going into it. It's interesting because
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like reverting back to how motherhood was portrayed
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  Speaker 1: in like the 2010s. when it was like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we must be happy, so aesthetic and everything is picture perfect.
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  Speaker 1: And there was this big call for people to be
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: real and raw on social media, but it's almost gone
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  Speaker 1: too far. I think before social media, though, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of women were going into motherhood quite blind and probably
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  Speaker 1: felt really lonely when they weren't having this really positive experience.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's been really helpful to actually have raw
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  Speaker 1: content online as opposed to sugar-coated content. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: really a fine line between being honest about what it's
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  Speaker 1: like being mum and also not wanting to put other
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  Speaker 1: mums off because the reality is it's easy to articulate
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  Speaker 1: the bad parts of motherhood. So we can express the
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: negative sides like lack of sleep and support because people
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  Speaker 1: who aren't parents, they know what you're talking about because
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  Speaker 1: they've actually experienced those things. But how do you explain
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: to someone who's not a mum or a dad the
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  Speaker 1: good parts of it? Like when your baby smiles for
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  Speaker 1: the first time or they reach their hand out to you,
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  Speaker 1: you just simply can't articulate it to someone who has
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  Speaker 1: never experienced it it's so true i remember in the
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  Speaker 1: early stages if i had a really hard day and
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  Speaker 1: when luca was finally in bed and i'd finally have
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  Speaker 1: some time to myself all i would want to do
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  Speaker 1: is look at photos of him and how beautiful he
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  Speaker 1: is and the day that we had together and it
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  Speaker 1: would make me smile and i was like oh i
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: can't wait to see him when he gets up even
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  Speaker 1: though you've had a tough day because that love you
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  Speaker 1: have for them is just indescribable and then when they
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  Speaker 1: murmur you're like oh fuck go back to sleep but
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: um I wonder if there's this element though that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to go on about how amazing it
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  Speaker 1: is because we've all been taught to be really respectful
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  Speaker 1: and mindful of people who may not be able to
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: have children or are having challenges having children. So I
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: think sometimes people censor what they say because they don't
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: want to rub it in and be like, oh, you're
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: going to miss out if you're not a mum. I
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: also think it's just fucking hard at the start. And
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: so of course you're going to complain about the sleep deprivation.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I heard Adelaide influencer Smiley Citrus talking about how she
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: had a rainbow baby. So she had a miscarriage before
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: she had her now baby, Charlie. And she said she
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: felt like she couldn't go online or she couldn't talk
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: to her friends and complain about the experience and how
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: hard it was because she was so grateful to have
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: a baby and she didn't want to upset other people
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: who were going through a similar situation. Do you know,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: I also think it's because in motherhood, you're always at
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: different stages. There's always new phases of things that pop up.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And some phases can be really good and some phases
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: can be really bad. And when you talk to your friends,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: like how we were giving you stick before, Kate, sometimes
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be bragging about how good something
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: is because you don't know what the other person is
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: going through. Or how quickly it will change. Yeah, so
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: it's easier to sort of bond over some of the
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: negative stuff that's going on. Well, I know when we
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: first launched the mums group, a lot of our first episodes,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I suppose you could say they were leaning onto the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: more negative side of motherhood, but we were trying to
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: do it in a funny way. Yeah, because when I
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: was going through some dark days, I really wanted to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: speak to other people who were going through the same
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: thing and feel like I wasn't alone. So I think
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that that was the basis of a couple of the
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: first few episodes. But we actually had a listener, I
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: think they're a bit of an OG listener about other
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: podcasts outspoken, and they said they were really excited for
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the Mums group. And then when they tuned in, they
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: felt a little bit disappointed because she found it to
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: be a little bit negative. And she, because she was
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: having a really positive time in motherhood and she kind
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: of wanted a bit of a rebrand. And she put
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: out a TikTok expressing this. And at the time I
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, like you hate to upset anyone, but
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to provide content that people found relatable.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: But now that I am moving into this stage where
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I am feeling more positive and upbeat about motherhood, I'm like, yes,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: we should be talking about it as well. It deserves
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: an equal part of the conversation as well, all the positives.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I totally get that because before I was pregnant, all
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I would see were these really negative stories about people
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: having HG and thinking, oh my God, like I'm definitely
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: going to have that. I'm going to be throwing up
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: all the time. And I had a really positive pregnancy
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: experience and it actually would have been helpful if more
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: people had shared their positive experiences because you think that
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: they don't happen. But I think you get stuck in
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: this algorithm. Like I have made this conscious effort the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, really since Harry's turned one to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: try and romanticize motherhood. And I've been doing that. Like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: we'll try and go out to really nice spots with
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the boys in the day. And it's been making me
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: feel so much better. And I feel like my TikTok
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: algorithm during the first year of motherhood was actually fueling
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: my resentment towards my husband. So Like I'd have this
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: nice day and Dale would come home and then I'd
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: be served up this video and it was talking about how, oh,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you know, women's bodies, they go through this while your
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: husband doesn't and your hormones are like this or just
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: jokes about, you know, men getting to do whatever they
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: wanted and how men's lives return back to normal. And
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it would really burn me up inside. And I've made
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: this effort not to consume that sort of content. I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: think you've just got to almost surrender to the stage
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of life that you're in. And I spoke a lot
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: in previous episodes about going through this grief process of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: my old life. But now that, again, I think we're
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: in a lucky stage where both of our boys, like
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Luca is 11 months old now. Harry's just turned one.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Jack's almost about to turn two. And we've sort of
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: hit this sweet spot with them where you are able
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to get out of the house a little bit easier.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm just so... appreciative that the three of us
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: have each other to spend time with during the day
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: because I think if you didn't have someone I've said
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: this to my sister or a mum's group like a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: lot of people I think if you didn't have your
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: people that it'd be such an isolating experience and it
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: would be hard to get out of the house by
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: yourself oh definitely and because my algorithm is slowly changing
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: from dad hating content to now content that's probably like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: thank fuck no day was like you've been so nice recently.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, no, because I actually, because as
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you said, I've been surrendering. I've been like, there's no
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: point in holding all this animosity about, oh, I can't
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: do this and I can't do that. I just got
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to make the most of it. And as mum said,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: bog down and just do it. But I've noticed now
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I'm being served up content and some of the content
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I'm being served up is this new aesthetic. It's the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: butter mum trend. What is that? It sounds yummy. Have
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I still got the man-hating content? Maybe. Because I don't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: have this butter mum. This butter mum trend, Kate, is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: seriously up your alley. Sounds delicious. So a journalist wrote
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: an article about it and she likened the butter mum
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to a Miss Honey type character from Matilda but on steroids.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So being a butter mum, you really celebrate the slower things,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like slowing down, simpler lifestyle, think home-cooked meals and cosy
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: 90s fashion. Sounds very trad wife. It's not trad wife. It's,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: you know, an almond mum?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: You've heard of an almond mum? So that's basically a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: term used to describe a mum who projects like the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: toxic diet culture onto their children. The butter mum is
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the opposite. So she's someone who, well, hence the name butter.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: She'll have butter in her cooking. She won't skip dessert.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So she might make a really nice apple pie for dinner.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And there's this whole aesthetic connected to it. So on Pinterest,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: if you look up Butter Mum, it's all these photos
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of women wearing a lot of the clothes out of
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Parent Trap. So people are really romanticizing that movie too.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: It's like oversized denim shirts. linen blazers. cardigans, straw hats,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: claw clips. Straw hats. I want to get random. I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: really want to get a claw clip, but my hair's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so thin that I need like a small one, but
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I haven't found the like middle one. So if anyone's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: got any recommendations. I think that everyone though wants to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: just relive this 90s childhood. That's another thing I'm seeing online.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: For instance, there's been so many studies about how negative
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: screen time is, but I've seen a lot of parents
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: are getting their old TVs out and their old VCRs
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and tapes and and playing the old shows that we're
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: used to watch because they're not as stimulating for kids.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: And it's also about not having this endless supply of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: TV shows and being able to watch whatever you want
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: right away. Like there's an end point of the TV.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: My husband and I keep saying we can't wait till
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Luca is a bit older and we can show him
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: some of our favorite movies from when we were growing up.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And we were saying that obviously TV usages, well, the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: way people consume TV has really changed because when we
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: were growing up, we'd all sit down and watch the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: same show on free-to-air TV as opposed to being able
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to be in separate rooms watching your own thing. I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: think the 90s is so in because people are wanting
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to escape the current era. If you think about 2026,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we've got a war going on in the Middle East.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of financial pressures and people are feeling
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: really nostalgic about the 90s. When we were speaking to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: mum last week, it was clear that mums in the 90s,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they didn't compare themselves as much. They weren't constantly feeling guilty.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: They weren't rushing down to baby sensory classes or making
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: aesthetic bento boxes. They were just like, you know, let's
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: just fucking, I'm going to make some cupcakes. Help me out.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: There's just so much pressure on mums now, particularly I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: think in that first year of parenthood where it's like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: your child must meet this milestone. I don't think our
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: parents even had any of those milestones. I didn't have
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the cards which were like, oh, my first smile. Well,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to be fair, mum filled out that milestone book for us,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't think they were constantly comparing themselves to
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: other kids on socials. That wasn't, that was just more like, oh,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you smiled when on this date. It wasn't like, if
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you haven't, like you better do something. The thing about
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: social media is you've now got this insight into other
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: people's homes and how they do things and what their
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: home looks like and what toys they have and their routine.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And It's impossible not to compare your life to that
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: or be like, oh, I want to be, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it's funny that we've got all these archetypes of mums,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the almond mum, the butter mum, and that you have
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to fit into a square because I'm like, I like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the idea of the butter mum, but also I'm not
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: cooking my son desserts at this stage. That's something I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: want to do in the future. Oh, my gosh. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: saw a clip this week. It was on TikTok of
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Megan McKenna. I recommended her, I think, in one of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the early episodes of the mums group. She used to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: be on The Only Way's Essex and she was giving
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: her son his first Happy Meal, go and check it out.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It was so funny. Like the kid was loving it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: The comments, surprisingly, so many people were like, oh, this
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is great. I was expecting a lot of mum shaming
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: going on. How old was the kid? I think he's
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: around Jack's age. But she's like, I love a guilty McDonald's.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And I wanted to give it to him before we
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: go on holiday because I love it. And I was like,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: fucking good on you. You know, she's like, isn't it
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: fun eating in the car all together? It is. I mean,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: if you think about it, your kids probably enjoyed a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: bit of McDonald's when you're there in your tummy. What
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I like is that it was a treat and it
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was like this family tradition. And that's what I kind
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of want to do with Jack when I finally let
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: him watch screens is I'd love to have a movie night.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And I just keep getting this picture in my head.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: When you guys said that you were pregnant, oh, God,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: This is so weird. I actually feel emotional. I don't
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: know why. I keep getting these moments ever since being
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a mum. I think we're going to do a segment
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: on it where I didn't even cry at my wedding.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And now I cried during Taylor Swift's doco when she
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: started talking about something. I was literally on the edge
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: of tears the whole doco because I'm like, I'm so
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: proud of her. And then I cried. I nearly cried
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: playing the Circle of Life from the Lion King Disney track.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And Jack was like, turn it off. Hey, Siri, turn
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it off. And then, I don't know, I just started
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: getting emotional then because I'm like, I can imagine us
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: having like a nice family barbecue and the little boys
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: on like, I don't know, I've got a vision of
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: one of those little couches that they all sit on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: with matching rugs and they're watching The Lion King or
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: something nostalgic on TV. Come on, it's got to be Cars,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the movie. I sent you guys a TikTok and it
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: was this little girl who turned five and she was
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: finally allowed to watch her first movie and she'd chosen
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to watch Cars and she asked if her siblings could
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: also watch it. So her siblings were like one was
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a baby, one was a toddler and they're all sitting
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: there and their eyes were just absolutely glued. And the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: second youngest was like, cars, cars, cars. She started chanting.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It was like crazy for them to see these characters
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that they'd only seen in a book suddenly talk. They
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: were transfixed. I'm planning to do a cars themed birthday
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: party for Jack's birthday because he hasn't actually seen the movie,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: but he's read the book and he's got like the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: figurines and stuff. But I'm like, Do I need to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: watch the movie first in order to get inspiration for
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the decorations? Because I've only seen it. I hope the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: movie's better than the books because I've had to read
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: those books a couple of times with Jack and they
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: are the worst books I've ever read. It's kind of
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like when you're a kid and you read Harry Potter
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: for the first time. I've got an idea of what
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the characters sound like or are going to be like
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's Mater really like? What's Lightning McQueen like?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: When Harry had his F1 party, I thought I've got
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to sit down and watch Drive to Survive. I only
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: watched a few episodes and I was like, I don't
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: need this. I've already got Inspo online. I've already watched
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Clarkson's Farm in preparation for Luca's party in a couple
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of weeks' time. Well, I would love to find out
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: how other members of the Mums group are romanticising motherhood.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: So head to our Facebook community. We're going to have
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a thread up discussing it. Let's get into our recommendations
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: of the week. And Amy, you have been begging us
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to follow this guy. Well, this baby, I should say.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: This mid-aged man. This lad. Yeah, so my recommendation is
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: an account on TikTok. It's actually named after the mother.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: So the mother's account is Lauren Godden and she has
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a beautiful son called John. Strong name for a baby. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I think everyone was like, I didn't know babies were
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: called John. Do they call him Johnny or? Nah, just John.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Sometimes Big John. I quite like that. See, it confused
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: me the other day, Brandon dropped that he likes the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: name David. for a child and I was like David
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: baby David like on the Royal Family that's my father-in-law's
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: name actually because he's like I like Davey I'm like
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: but so the reason that John has gone off on
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: TikTok is he's an American baby but he happens to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: look like a like a 40 year old man from
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: from Essex he looks like a bricklayer doesn't he looks
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like he's been working and I feel terrible saying that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: but the parents have made this big joke about it
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: like they laugh it off so they made him into
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: this character essentially they have and I think he basically,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I think he looks like there's a guy in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: UK that posts takeaway videos. His name is actually Big John.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Does that dad follow this guy? I'll have to ask that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard of him. Have you noticed that when
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: English people get a Chinese takeaway, they get curry sauce,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: like a separate curry sauce and they get chips with it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: It looks delicious, but I'm like, that's not Chinese food. No,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that's a real UK takeaway. Just back to John, because
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I really want to sell him to the listeners because
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: everyone's got to go follow him because he actually, genuinely
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: brightens my day. So one of his videos that went viral,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it's a video of him. It appears to be at
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a library session with other children and he's carrying this
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: huge box of toys around and he's wearing this hoodie
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and trackies. And the comment section is what you've got
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to hit up after watching his videos because they're the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: most hilarious part. So someone said, is he the bouncer
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: at the daycare, which got 155.8 thousand likes? There was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: another video which I loved of Big John, he's eating
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a salad and it looks like the most amazing salad.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: But when you go to the comment section, someone has written,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he spent 14 hours laying bricks in the hot sun
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: just to come home to a salad. The thing is, like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny, but then you kind of feel
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: sorry for the kid. Like he doesn't have any choice
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: over whether this is me. I know. When I first
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: saw it, I felt in two minds about it. But
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: as I said, The parents, they love it. They think
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it's hilarious. They've got a really good sense of humour.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Let's hope he has a good sense of humour when
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: he's older. The funniest comments, though, are generally like every
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: video someone says, oh, I knew John back in 88.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: He helped me move. He's a great bloke. My recommendation,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and it sort of comes off the back of what
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we were talking about, romanticising motherhood, is to try some
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: new cafes whilst you're on maternity leave. They must be
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: close to a park though because you can't stay there
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: long with toddlers. Yeah, in the vicinity of a park.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I need to invest in one of those cup holders
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: for my pram as well, because we've become obviously marcher connoisseurs.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And I also like a nice chai now. I've become
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: one of those wankers. That's actually one tip of romanticizing
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: motherhood that I saw online. Have a nice drink. Yeah, honestly,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it was. So get a nice drink or make a
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: nice drink when you get home. So it's just like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's good to just stop going to the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: same cafe that you always go to and try some
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: new ones. It's so funny because I can just hear
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: all the toddler mums screaming at their podcast right now
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: being like, good luck. I mean, We had that video
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that went viral of us filming what we tried to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have lunch at Jenny's the other day. Now, my recommendation
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: is a little bit backwards because I want a recommendation
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: from the listeners. So I'm upgrading Jack's Kmart lunchbox. He's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: got one of those silicone ones and it was like
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: five bucks and it smells. And I didn't really realize,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: but apparently silicone traps smells. And I was looking at
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the stainless steel lunchbox that everyone seems to have, but
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: they're really expensive. So there's one from Eco Cocoon. and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: one from nudie rudie that look exactly the same but
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  Speaker 1: one's 80 and one's 95 now do i need to
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  Speaker 1: spend box yeah i'm like do i need to spend
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  Speaker 1: that much on a lunchbox they're really cool they're like
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  Speaker 1: that bento box style apparently they don't smell and i
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  Speaker 1: love all the little different compartments um would a butter
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  Speaker 1: mom do that i think you just get a plastic
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  Speaker 1: see my from came out no the butter mom would
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  Speaker 1: my husband well it was part of a christmas present
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  Speaker 1: got our son a really expensive Yeti lunchbox. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: this will last him for years. It's an investment. Has
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  Speaker 1: it lasted? Yeah, I bring it out all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting for a butt there as well. See,
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  Speaker 1: what I love also is that you can pick different colours.
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  Speaker 1: So my son loves purple. I'm like, wouldn't he just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely love that lunchbox? Just get it for him then
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  Speaker 1: for his birthday. Is that an exciting present? Who wants
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  Speaker 1: a lunchbox for their birthday? Anyway, well, I'm putting it
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  Speaker 1: out there to the listeners. Is it worth spending the money?
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  Speaker 1: Iconic or unhinged to spend that much on a lunchbox? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of the other kids at Kindergym
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  Speaker 1: have them. You don't want to be picked on because
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  Speaker 1: his lunchbox is embarrassing. I'm just joking, Mum. On that note,
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  Speaker 1: I think that is all we have time for today.
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  Speaker 1: stand to listen to it. Yeah, maybe pump me up
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  Speaker 1: in the comments. Yeah. Do you know what? I've heard
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that 90s blonde is apparently coming back, which is what
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have. Excellent. Ahead of the trend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: ahead of the time. It was going to come back
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  Speaker 1: around again, wasn't it? Setting the trends, maybe. Yeah. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. This episode was
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  Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Kaurna people of
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  Speaker 1: the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past and present.