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Patriots Unfiltered 12/6: State of the Offense, Bills Leftovers, Looking Forward to West Coast Trip · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's a Saturday on
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday before Thursday game. I got that in before
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  Speaker 1: Paul stepped down. Anything to add. Paul knows his mouth
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  Speaker 1: to shut you just wait, zip it, let him sip it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the bills are favored. I don't know the number,
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  Speaker 1: but it was five five, so that's eight yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: if you do the math right. You just didn't know
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  Speaker 1: why you're making me laugh every time you do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so mature. I can't handle it. Serenia and Serenian whatever, Hey, Jan,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Serenia whatever his name is. It's like Evan
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  Speaker 1: couldn't be bothered by the Eagles offense is like what
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  Speaker 1: I dream of and like my favorite dreams. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know you had a girlfriend, I would absolutely tell it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in love with ball. This is dreams about my
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  Speaker 1: favorite dreams. Did you see that? R I'm really excited
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  Speaker 1: about this game. Let's see what we've got. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's just get it over with. I'm excited. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just get it like no, let's let's just rip this
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  Speaker 1: band aid off. This is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by Duncan.
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  Speaker 1: Well if we ripped the band aid off Thursday? Ouch
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  Speaker 1: ouch ouch, all right, it is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and uh getting ready for the West Coast trip Arizona
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals coming up Monday night. So it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: while before the Patriots have another game. It's me, It's deuce.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually it'll be a full house. Paul's filming a camera,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, so if there's a camera, there's
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  Speaker 1: Paul and others will be stopping in at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Practice was at noon today, so Evan will be here
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  Speaker 1: and probably to Maroon, maybe Alex, and it'll be a
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  Speaker 1: full house today. Yeah, eventually we'll get everybody started off
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  Speaker 1: yet get them, We'll get him on the straight narrow.
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  Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's been a while since the Patriots played.
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  Speaker 1: That was Thursday, and it'll be a while until they play,
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  Speaker 1: which will be Monday, because technically this is a Monday.
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  Speaker 1: This is a Monday technically technically. So are we ever
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  Speaker 1: gonna get right again? I think next week, but we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a little bleary eyed as we go into Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess now that's still a Sunday game, but Sunday
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  Speaker 1: afternoon after the flexing. So yeah, we haven't had a
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  Speaker 1: unfiltered show since the game, So I guess we need
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  Speaker 1: to talk about what transpired Thursday night. Um, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't good. You know, I got a lot of engagement
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter before the game because I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I had a feeling that something special was going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, nothing happened. Nothing special, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Jones play was I mean, I know, for that
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  Speaker 1: brief moment it was seven to three and the place
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  Speaker 1: was going crazy, but the Bills just shut the door
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  Speaker 1: on that. And you know, you could look at the
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  Speaker 1: defense while they only gave up twenty four points, but
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  Speaker 1: it was evident that the Bills shut it down for
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  Speaker 1: the most part in the third quarter. And we're just
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  Speaker 1: happy with running out the clock. And I do think
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  Speaker 1: if the Patriots had been able to answer and score
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  Speaker 1: more points, I think the Bills would have been too
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  Speaker 1: yeah able to do that. It just seemed that way anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that was my only question, And in the postgame show,
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  Speaker 1: I started off not trying to complement the defense, but
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  Speaker 1: just saying, at least with the turnover near the end
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  Speaker 1: of the first half and the stop that they got
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  Speaker 1: there early on. I mean, I just thought the door
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  Speaker 1: was briefly open. Was just curious what it might have
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  Speaker 1: looked like had the Patriots offense scored a touch down
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  Speaker 1: there at the end of the first half, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just put them in some kind of position they
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  Speaker 1: have to actually make a play. They never really were.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I repeat myself a lot when I talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. You know, I just remember when Parcels was
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  Speaker 1: here and him, you know, saying, each side of the
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  Speaker 1: ball gives the other side hope. You know, the defense
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  Speaker 1: when it gives the offense hope. And you know, the
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  Speaker 1: offense really wasn't giving the defense much hope there. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, at the end of that half,
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  Speaker 1: if they use the clock right and they can at
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  Speaker 1: least make it seventeen ten, you know, a one touchdown game,
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  Speaker 1: you know, momentum. Yeah, now you go into the second
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  Speaker 1: half and you know, maybe the defense you know, responds
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  Speaker 1: and you know, but I know probably, Yeah, it's tough
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  Speaker 1: to sell yourself on it, but I mean it is.
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  Speaker 1: The door was open a little bit, and you just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, you feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: been watching this movie for this season, certainly going back
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons, similar performances. I think at
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  Speaker 1: a certain point you just kind of became resigned to
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  Speaker 1: this is what it is. They're not gonna have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to claw their way back
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  Speaker 1: into this game. And I don't want to say that,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the Bills were just kind of like you know,
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  Speaker 1: boardcats with the plaything, just kind of batting it around.
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  Speaker 1: But it didn't feel too far off of that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the news then coming out is really
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  Speaker 1: kind of the reaction after the game, particularly from the
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  Speaker 1: head coach Bill you know, he I you know, the
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  Speaker 1: media as some point blank, you know, you know, are
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  Speaker 1: you open to making changes? And Bill said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at this point in the season, it really you know,
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  Speaker 1: big changes. Really, you know, it's not gonna do much
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  Speaker 1: at this point, but he didn't say no, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so it's left people open to talking about, like what
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  Speaker 1: happens after the season. You know, what are the changes now?
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  Speaker 1: I said before the game, I made the prediction that
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  Speaker 1: there will be a shake up on the offensive side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball and when it comes to coaching. And
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  Speaker 1: I still believe that even more now. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how there can't be I mean, I don't think we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna learn anything over these last five games that's going
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  Speaker 1: to change everything that's happened before that. But how do
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  Speaker 1: you tell anybody on it? I mean, it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I know Bill recently has done the thing where
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  Speaker 1: he suddenly pulls out stats to back up like we're
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  Speaker 1: not that bad. But it's just I mean, going through
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  Speaker 1: the stats today, it's they're a bad offense. They're a
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  Speaker 1: bad offense. They cannot produce, they can't score in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone. I mean, just that played by Marcus Jones
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  Speaker 1: was such a an exciting moment in a way, but
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  Speaker 1: also just so striking to me of oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: look it's a Patriot running untouched down the field. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've just seen explosive plays like that, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if getting Marcus Jones more involved in
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  Speaker 1: offense is going to move the needle enough, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just, you know, goes to show you how
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  Speaker 1: there's just been a complete lack of those kind of
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  Speaker 1: explosive players that can just change the game in an instant.
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  Speaker 1: And that was that was one thing from the game
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  Speaker 1: that felt kind of novel and kind of exciting, and
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  Speaker 1: after that it was kind of back to more. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I know that Marcus Jones I think he
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  Speaker 1: had like fifteen plays in college on offense or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but I always say that if you
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  Speaker 1: can play offense, you play offense. So for some reason
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  Speaker 1: in college he didn't play offense. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's because he didn't have the hands for it or what. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he certainly has the speed and quickness. You know,
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  Speaker 1: people on the blog when he made that play were
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  Speaker 1: immediately comparing him to Tyreek Hill. He looked, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the same sound of kind of size. I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 1: not quite the same speed, but I saw and I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a fair comparison because Hill doesn't play defense, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: he does have that physical look to him. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: just wondering what kept him from being a full time
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  Speaker 1: offensive player in college, because, like I said, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: a college coach and I got a guy who can
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  Speaker 1: be that guy he's playing offense, I might say, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not holding him back and play him play defense. So
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  Speaker 1: there was some reason why he didn't play offense on
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  Speaker 1: a regular basis. Yeah, that's just why I love that
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  Speaker 1: play because it wasn't about scheme, it wasn't about It
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  Speaker 1: was just simply putting the ball in the hands of
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  Speaker 1: a playmaker and letting him out run people. And I
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  Speaker 1: think going forward, that's a thing that they need to
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  Speaker 1: continue to try to find and add to this roster
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  Speaker 1: because you know, as much as you gets sold on
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  Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton's speed, it's it's different and they haven't been
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  Speaker 1: able to crack him yet in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: crack the code and unlock him, so to speak. I
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  Speaker 1: still have some hope with him. But the Thornton's fast,
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  Speaker 1: but he doesn't seem shifty, you know, and they need
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  Speaker 1: to get him in a a position where he catches the
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  Speaker 1: ball and has some space to run a little that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing he needs the space. Yeah, yeah, that's it's
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  Speaker 1: so much of what we've seen even with their current receivers,
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  Speaker 1: where you know, they catch the ball and they get
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  Speaker 1: drilled one yard later, and you know, there's not really
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  Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity for to create explosive plays with
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  Speaker 1: that speed. So, you know, I think we're slowly working
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  Speaker 1: our way back to overall the design of the offense
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  Speaker 1: and how they're incorporating guys. But yeah, so like you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the very least, Patricia remains, you know, play caller,
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  Speaker 1: but they relieve him of his offensive line duties. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the other way. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna bring somebody in. Ya. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: question is like what does that do to Mac? Does
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  Speaker 1: that person coming in? Are there enough changes where now
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  Speaker 1: it's another new offense and another voice in Mac's head? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm at the point now I don't even care. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I totally get the point of the third offense in
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  Speaker 1: three years, and isn't this how you break quarterbacks? But
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  Speaker 1: it's been so nonfunctional this year that we just need
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  Speaker 1: to get Mac back on with the party, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and to believe and you know, if you can get
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  Speaker 1: a guy in in February and he's starting to work
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  Speaker 1: with Mac and instead of you know, all these things
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  Speaker 1: that we heard about, Mac isn't sure about the direction
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  Speaker 1: of offense. Instead, he's on board from the get go,
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  Speaker 1: starting in February, he's able to then you know, pass
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  Speaker 1: that on too, whichever receivers are back or added. You know.
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  Speaker 1: But I just think it's been so dreadful this year
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  Speaker 1: that you can't try to build off of this. You know, what,
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  Speaker 1: what do you what do you try to build up?
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing to build off of. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: interesting the miche Lamarti quote, which I mean he obviously
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  Speaker 1: didn't steal it from us, but we said it on
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  Speaker 1: the show, was it doesn't feel like they're running an offense.
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  Speaker 1: They're just kind of running plays to play, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is now with them. So I think
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  Speaker 1: they need to find an offense and find some core
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  Speaker 1: things that they can actually do consistently and that they
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  Speaker 1: believe in, and then I think there'll be some confidence inspired.
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  Speaker 1: But I just I mean, you mentioned how both sides
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  Speaker 1: give each other hope. I mean, I just wonder how
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  Speaker 1: much hope they're even giving themselves at this point in
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  Speaker 1: terms of, you know, our guys really starting to get frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: I mean think you saw the frustration overflowing numerous places
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room after that game, and I really
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  Speaker 1: wonder how it's going to play out. I think you
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  Speaker 1: can win this game this week against Arizona, but if
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  Speaker 1: they don't get it, I really wonder how much they
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  Speaker 1: have an ability to bounce back from it. The other
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  Speaker 1: sort of narrative that came out of the game. For
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  Speaker 1: the most part, the voices have been full throat in
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  Speaker 1: it's not Mac. You know. Now, there are some people
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  Speaker 1: that say, you know, Max's part of the problem, so
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  Speaker 1: on and so forth. But I've heard a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it's not Mac, it's Patricia, it's the offense as a whole,
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  Speaker 1: it's the offensive line. But there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: from what at least you know, the echo chambers that
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  Speaker 1: I've been in, I've heard a lot of defense of
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  Speaker 1: Mac this week. Yeah, just to say this real quick,
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, Titans fired John Robinson really used to be here? Why? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I I of all the teams that have
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  Speaker 1: done a pretty good job managing injuries and staying atop
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  Speaker 1: the AFC. I mean, I know they're in a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a slump right now, but I find that
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  Speaker 1: very surprising. Yeah, they saw what aj Brown did against them.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, this guy was supposed to be on our team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that would be it, right, that would be
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  Speaker 1: uh the heck paulse here, I'm curious is Paul John
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  Speaker 1: Robinson just got fired. I'll let you process that while
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  Speaker 1: you're getting to your to your microphone too. I famously
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: um almost kicked him out of the press box, remember that.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll get into that later. Evans here and Tamara,
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  Speaker 1: they're back from practice. Um, ladies and gents, what do
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  Speaker 1: we have? And Tamara and tomorrow? And maybe you can
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: hits Merit with the mood question, which she's got in
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  Speaker 1: the bag. So what do we got? So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to preface this by saying that today is an extra day,
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  Speaker 1: right because they don't play till Monday night. Today is
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: an extra practice for the Patriots. They all said three
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  Speaker 1: games in twelve days. And there's also no injury report.
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  Speaker 1: I want to look, but I'm just gonna wait and
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  Speaker 1: listen for you until Thursday. So I throw that out
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  Speaker 1: there because half the starting lineup was just missing from practice. Yeah,
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: there's almost not enough characters to even tweet who wasn't it?
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Is that right? So it was just like an optional
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: day or something on their party. Just quit. I will
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  Speaker 1: read you know, because there's no practice tomorrow. Jalen Mills.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: These are the guys that were not spotted, by the way,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Jalen Mills, Jabrill Peppers, Jakobe Meyers, Damien Harris, Mike on one,
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  Speaker 1: Isaiah Wyn, Trent Brown off there at the squad. No
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert, no Jamie Collins. So we have so just
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: the offensive Linen, just real quick. When you's the only
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  Speaker 1: one that didn't that doesn't have that, I can't give
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  Speaker 1: you right away a reason, right, yes, all the other
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  Speaker 1: all the rest of those guys, I well, you know
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  Speaker 1: Byers got hit in ahead. It's probably in concussion protocol.
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  Speaker 1: Brown was sick, Peppers was sick late last week, so
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: they would all have yeah, Damian Harris, thigh and that
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  Speaker 1: that's I was thinking I was going to feel better
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  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but then when you give me all
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  Speaker 1: the names, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: there would be guys there that were just veteran day whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But these are all guys that had injuries except for
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  Speaker 1: a win. You, I don't know anything about him, so
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: maybe he suffered something in the game. Yeah, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if that illness or is going around, Yeah a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah. And Trent Brown I had. I had
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  Speaker 1: talked to him after the game, just briefly, and he's
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  Speaker 1: been really dealing with something with that illness. He called
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: it the flu. It's he said it it's coming going right,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, one day he feels like he's he's
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  Speaker 1: backed almost one hundred percent. The next day he can't
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  Speaker 1: get out of bed. Yeah, it's really knocked him out completely.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that he was somebody I bring it
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  Speaker 1: up because he was somebody that I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people thought played poorly against Buffalo and yeah, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: they'd play poorly. It's around the league. It's everywhere. There's
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  Speaker 1: something going. Like I had it and I tested for COVID.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: I was negative, but I had some type of head cold.
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  Speaker 1: It's still like still my ears and I didn't excuse
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: it how bad you were on the show. My friend
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: had it and she got tested for COVID, went to
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: the emergency room. She got tested for flu. And strap
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: all negative and she was like, I don't know what
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: it is, but it took three weeks to go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: something going around. Yeah. His exact words to me were,
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  Speaker 1: it is kicking my bleep, so but it's yeah but
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  Speaker 1: face face like that. Yeah, yeah, Mike. Mike said the
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  Speaker 1: same thing to Shape after this. So knowing that does
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  Speaker 1: Trent for I don't get a little gold star from
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  Speaker 1: get for going out there Thursday night. I'm being serious.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago he gave Marcus Cannon a
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  Speaker 1: gold star for playing sick, and I remember that, and
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  Speaker 1: I also remember that Cannon played a lot better than
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Trent Brown did. Yeah, I think he gets props for
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: sucking up going out there, much like I would give
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  Speaker 1: that guy for the bills. Quisenberry. Yeah, you know, high marks.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't play well. I'm not gonna tell you he
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: gets high marks because he got it. He was awful
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  Speaker 1: in the game. So you're you're not on the josh
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  Speaker 1: Uja has a breakout game train right now, Paul that
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I've been reading all about this morning. How josh uche
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: the last three games against all these backup tackles is
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: finally reaching his potential. Sorry, I just caught you a
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  Speaker 1: blank blink blink. You don't know what I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: from you? No, I I just can't believe that anybody would,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: like I think I said in the postgame show, that
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: was a terrific play. That was a really really like
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that was DeMarcus ware like, well you sort of duck
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  Speaker 1: under like that was a really good play. What was
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Yeah, sorry, And that guy
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  Speaker 1: by the way fell down a couple of times on
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: his own, like it was just bad. I thought that
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: one live and then I said, watched the replay, Yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: and I just thought I thought Evan was gonna fall
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: up the sniper got him from the three hundred. It
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: was like going back to practice. Um so a lot
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: of people missing yes pads today or no no, no, okay,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: outdoors I assume yes, yeah, outdoor practice. We look I
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: think that this, like I said when I when I
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: started talking about practice, this is a bonus day for them,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: my practice. And it felt like a that sort of
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: vibe from Bill this morning the players today that it's
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: almost like a bye week practice where you sort of
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: get some details ironed out about yourself, maybe do some
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: self scout type of things and and go from there.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering though, just from a scheduling, if you're not
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: going to have them practice tomorrow, why why not have
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: them not practice today and then have them practice tomorrow.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It's straight through, you know, why have that day in between?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Probably the schedule, right, Like they just are creatures the habit,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and they have stuff to do on these days, and
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: tomorrow is supposed to be Tuesday, and so all the
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: coaches are gonna be doing. I mean that's I'm just speculating.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, today is like Monday. I guess today's, yeah,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the day off, and then it'd be yeah, Wednesday, Thursday,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Friday on, Yeah, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Right. It was a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: little confusing this week because we got it. It It was
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: like five street days of practices and you didn't know
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: what was going on. They tweaked everything and canceled tomorrow's practice.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, when that originally came out yesterday, I
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: was a little getting about. So I guess it's keeping
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: consistent with what they normally do. Yeah, you should love it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: You love playing around with the days. I don't. Today's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think every game Monday. I had to know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But when when it happens usually like to yeah, you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: just reiterate what day it really is. Yeah he did,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: we did. I don't really like it though. Okay, So
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: so Johnson got fired, huh. I mean it's all that's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: blowing up the Twitter machine right now. People you know
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Evan the AJ Brown reference of AJ Brown going off
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: against them, But I mean that that seems John Robinson
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the pots. So as always with these things, I like
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to sort of look at it through a bigger lens. Yes,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: does that mean anything for Mike Vrabel? Well, well, could
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: he and Mike Vrabel have been at odds and that's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: why he got That would be the the way it
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: could unfold. That would not benefit anybody else, including the Patriots,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: because I think you know sort of that Mike Rabel
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots thing, like I mean, I don't even
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, I don't even know what I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: would do it. This is Quinn's still the GM there?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Who's the GM in Titans? John Robinson was until about
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: five like honest like honestly, like sometimes I like, are
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you having the flu? No? No, I didn't know that
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: was his capacity, Like I don't know if he was no, No, Yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: John Robinson just got relieved of his general manager duties.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Where's Quinn? Now? See what the Falcons probably with somebody,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: but he's no longer the GM of the Lions. Now, Okay,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the thing about the John, They're moved to trade AJ
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Brown and then just draft Treylon Burke's Who's AJ Brown?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of a J. Brown is such a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Patriots move it's not even funny. So whether that was
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: John Robinson making that decision or Mike Rabel and John,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: clearly that has Patriots. That is a Patriots The worst
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: part about it for them is when the kid is
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: on the field, he looks like he can play. Yeah,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: he just hasn't payable to stay on the field. That
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: was he got blow up. As MT Smith would say,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: did you see that big catch by nikkil Harry for
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the weekend? I fully expected him to miss the rest
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of the season after we brought that ball. You know what,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I might just be like one of those guys like
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: no matter what happens, like yeah whatever, I'm like. I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: immediately thought, how could a guy look so bad on
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a forty nine yard catch? Like he goes up like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: he's on his bat, like just cope and catch the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: ball like everybody else does. He did get shaken up,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but it was a big catch. Yeah. Um okay, So
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: back to practice. So you're saying that there was court
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: sort of a bye week mood with the team out there. Yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it's very chill. Yeah, yeah, I just think it's a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: today's practice. I think will probably be less about the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Cardinals and more about the Patriots and cleaning up some
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of the mess that was a Thursday night yea, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: go from there. Okay, all right, um yeah, good media contingent.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I mean Bill is this morning, so that that always
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: draws a crowd, whether it's a positive crowd or a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: pitchfork crowd, no bemoaning of the West coast travel and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: all that. I wonder how many people will be out there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing. I do know that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: there's some people committed, but I don't know if they're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: committed to just the games. You know, they're going to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: fly back and then go back out for Vegas or Yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and I had more just the games as opposed to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the week. But I know now what you're you know, yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: but there's definitely some people committed. You guys told me
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Minnesota there's also people committed to institutions. There weren't a
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: lot of people in Minnesota, you said, right, And I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: don't know if that was just because it's the road
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: game in Minnesota, or I had anything to do with Thanksgiving.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: But I wonder if they're looking at it like six
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and six. Well, the league certainly did. Yeah, are they
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: flexing out the Patriots? Yeah? But I just wonder how
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: many of these outlets will be represented in Arizona in Vegas.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Those aren't cheap trips. Yeah, be interesting to see. If
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they win in Arizona and the Jets lose to Buffalo,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: then technically the Patriots are in the playoffs, right, So
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and maybe they all fly out for Vegas, and Josh,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that's the thing, the whole You'll see no one at Arizona,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: but they'll all be there for Vegas. Right. I think
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I think there'll be a good contingent in Vegas because
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you also have the Josh angle of its Vegas. Yeah
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and Vegas. Baby. I mean I was going to say
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that in and out right, that that that's why people
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: in and out in Arizona. That's probably true. All right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: fair enough, fair enough, We're all going to Vegas for
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in and out. I really call me crazy, but I don't.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not the like high on Vegas. I don't think
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: it's like probably my least favorite places to go. Welcome
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to middle age. Why is that? I just it's just
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: do I way too young to take. I think Miami's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: better than too over the top. It's too over the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: top thing like do you think Vegas is too much?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: But Miami no is not. But listen hear me out.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Hear me out being at the swimming pool and seeing
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: women in like heels and like full face of makeup
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and just fully dressed. I'm like that in Miami though
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: too right, not so much. No, I'm not. I'm not
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: hanging out too much at the pools when we go
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to Vegas and you know, and I think that's another
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not a gambler. I'm out in the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: casino like I've never done any of that. Yeah. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: think I think of vacation spots I need like water, beach, Yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that's true, relaxation. Been much shopping? Are you went to shopping? Yeah?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: But how about gambling? She's not at the game. I'm
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: just kidding. Dinner dancing, it was fun. Short doses. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: would Yeah, I'm with Fred, I really would enjoy Vegas,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: but a couple of days I'd be like, Okay, I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: gotta get Yeah, training camp in Vegas was a little
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: bit much by the time that you were the wild
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: men out there. By the time the game rolled around,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I was ready to go home, especially because it was
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a preseason game. On Trent Brown. Yeah. When when Trent
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Brown tweeted that, I was like, one, Trent, Yes, Like
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: can we just get this game over with and let's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: get let's get update one John Robinson if anyone cares it,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: says Titans owner Amy Adams. She said in a statement
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on the website, There's more to be done and higher
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: aspirations to be met. I'm just surprised, I thought, I mean,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I said at the top, I just think the Titans
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have done a good job last few years. They've had
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: six you know, I mean, Ryan, get your fire. It's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, we talk how tight the how tight it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: is just to like base your team on Derrick Henry
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and he goes out and all of a sudden, you're
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you're you're kind of searching for answers. But they've done
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: it really well. Whatever that happens, you wonder is there
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the power struggle between the head coach and the gene.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's did the head coach win? That's sort
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of the things that have trickled out about A. J.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Brown is that that trade was more a John Robinson
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: trade than it was Mirabel trade. I think I think
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Fred probably has it. I think that's probably right. You
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: know what you guys are talking about in terms of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a power struggle. I would also, as he is on
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the screen over there, I would also mention that, oh,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I believe that Mike Vrabel knows that there's a ceiling
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: with Ryan Tannehill that they have hit over the last
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I think to Mike's point that he just brought, like
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: how much further can this Derrick Henry lead team go?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: This is it? And I think a lot of people
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to fall off a cliff this year. Well,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it looks like they're going to be good enough to
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: win a bad division, but they're not going What are
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Henry Stat's last three games? I heard they're not that good.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I's been held and check. I don't know exactly off
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the top of my head, but all I know is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is that the guy that was on the screen was
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: obviously Tom Brady last night. It's hard to imagine that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Vrabel didn't want Brady a couple of years ago. Real quick,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: do you remember a couple of weeks ago when I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: was like going through that thing about some guys just
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: have that that thing where things that they don't have
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: anything to do with just always seem to work out
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: for them. The last eight minutes of that game was
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the epitome of Tom Brady, Like good things just happened
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to that guy. Yeah, And everything that the Saints could
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: do wrong in the last eight minutes that had nothing
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to do with Brady, the Saints did. And much like
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: like the twenty eight to three game, if any of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: them went a different way, they lose, like literally any
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of them from I'm going to kick a field goal
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: up ten on fourth and like a yard and a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: half instead of trying to make it a three score game,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue to make it a two
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: score game, which meaningless, ten and thirteen meaningless. The next
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: time they get the ball third and one, thirteen and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: they can't convert it, what did they do? Thank you,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: thank you Evan for watching, because I know no one
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: else did I turned it. I turned it on because
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I knew that he was going to come back. I
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: did too. Oh, I know it was coming in. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: have Evans and Godwins. I was like, oh, this is great.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna benefit. Then I didn't benefit, but anyway almost did.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Godwin's cut touchdown? Yeah cost me to win? Whatever? Um
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: so on that. On the drive before that, the first
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: scoring drive, the Saints are completely blanketing him the all night.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: They're playing like you know, too deep that like the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Mannings were talking about the quarters coverage, and all of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a sudden they go single high. Mike Evins runs right
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: by the guy wide open. They have to interfere with
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: him at like the three yard line, easy touchdown, so
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: it allows him to get like fifty yards on one play.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: They had over three minutes before when they scored the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: first touchdown. Still do you need that three and out?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Was there aids out they were going to get a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: three and out? Heaven? Was there any doubt? Was that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: the ingram one where I don't think that. I don't
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: think the Bucks forced to three and out all game,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: But I would have been anything that I had in
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: my possession that they would have a three and out
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: right down to Taysom Hill dropping that pass down the scene. Now,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I don't put it on Tastom Hill. You gets throw
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: like a twenty five yard scene route to a quarterback,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get you know, have a hard time
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: completing that one. But they didn't. They took no time
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: off the clock at all. And then to top it
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: all off, the Bucks went right down the field and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Dennis Alle just stood there and said, I don't think
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'll need just I don't think I'll need any of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: those time outs here that they had a whole three
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: seconds left when the TA was over answer in the tank.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Am I wrong? Did I just any?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And I as I was watching this, my first reaction
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to when he threw the touchdown to Rashad wife or
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the game winner, for my first reaction was like he
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: how does he do this? Like? How does he do
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this every single time? Then my second reaction is since
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he left, we can't do this right, Like we like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that drive that he put together at the end of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the game that doesn't exist here anymore, Like you can't
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you just can't do that now. The most amazing part
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of him capping the comeback was that. I was like, yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that's pretty much exactly what I thought was going to happen.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And that was my reaction. It was a lot of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: other people's reaction too. It's just a credit to just
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: how I mean, I thought Troy Aikman was great at
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the game. He's like, you know that he is the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: best that's ever. It's just so cold blooded in those situations.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And he's throwing to like a washed Julio Jones. It's
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a rookie running back out of the backfield sport. He's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I agree, a washed l Jones. And suddenly it looked
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl. That was a great catch. Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And you're just it's funny because now I see people like, oh,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: they're about to get Tom bradyed, and I'm like, wow,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I've coined tom Brady. Yeah, to get Tom Brady. Imagine
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: how bad they would be that team, Like that's twice
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: he's done that. Yea with the Rams and the Saints,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Like that team is just in disarray. It's amazing that
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: how difficult it is for them to score points. Yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you know, no offense. Yeah, they can't run the ball
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and they can't protect the passer. So he does it again. Um,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and that makes Patriots fans even more miserable, doesn't I think?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't bother you as much, doesn't make you
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: more miserable. Patan, Well, I mean, but I'm also a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady fan, right, Yeah, So that's what I'm saying.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: You think it really makes everybody more? He just well,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you yearn for the days of your Okay, it doesn't.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: The first season, I hated it. I hated watching him
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: play for another team. It was like kill my soul
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: every time I could see him in a bed. But
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I've gotten used to it now, and I think I've
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: reached a point, at least now where I just kind
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of appreciate that he continues to do. Appreciate it. Now
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I don't appreciate it, but I think at this point
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I do look at it, and I keep reminding myself
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to degree that even if you was still here, I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: think it would obviously be better because he would carry
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the team like he did last night in certain games.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: But they're so dysfunctional in so many different areas that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: would see this is where you're missing. Is it nineteen?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: It's nineteen. He wouldn't allow it. He would not allow
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it to be dysfunction. It would be like nineteen. Yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it would be like it wouldn't be it would be better.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It would be what do you know what they did
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: in nineteen They were twelve and four? Yea, it would
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: be better than that. This this team would be better
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: than twelve and the offense would be better. Yes. Do
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you think if you put him, why isn't the Bucks
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: offense better than? Just out of curious, do you think
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that if Tom Brady was so for example, all the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: floating rumors about him coming back for his last year,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: if you think he put him in this situation right now,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: keeping everything as it is with Matt Patricia calling the plays,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that it would be better. I'm saying that if Tom
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: was here, probably Matt Patricia wouldn't be calling the plays.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. That's that's fair, and I
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: think that is fairer what that guy looking at my office,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he would allow this from the get go to have happened, right,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and he would have to make that's fair. I also
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: think that there's another element of it too, where I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: saw last night that OBJ was at the MAV's Sons
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: game and they're all according him to Dallas I think
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you might get a meeting with OBJ if he's still here, right,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: like if you have Brady and building together. I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I think OBJ loves Belichian, right, and I think he
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: loves Brady too, the quarterback that he yeah, he wants
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to go somewhere. We're just going to get the ball, right,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So I think that there's that element of it too,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: where he gets Julio Jones, who I just mentioned. I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: think Julio Jones is pretty much washed, but it's a
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: name brand receiver. Maybe OBJ takes a meeting here. Now
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you can't even get a meeting with him, So I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: think that there is an attraction that he brings that
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: maybe he could bring in some other people. But I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: just I'm wary of the fact that the team would
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: be a super Bowl contender simply because they dropped Brady back.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'd be a super Bowl contender, but
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I think that the record would be a lot better
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: than of course, of course, yeah, all right, well that's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to Fred's point. I think the offense would look better,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: but I didn't even bring in the variable of Patricia
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even be the cord enough, Tom would be. You'd
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: rather not have anybody right, like you just dumb, I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: got this, don't worry about it. It's It's funny though,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the way Tom runs that offense is he does really
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: depend on the sleeve, you know, like it's not all
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but it does flat. It doesn't flat though, but it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: not all up in his head. Like he really does
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: use that sleeve, I think more than when he was
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: here within New England. Yeah, you know, I curious how
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: things have changed for him over the few years in Tampa.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You know, just how he's offensively playlists that he likes things.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You know, How's how's the change just being in another
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: offense for a few years and you know, not being
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: away from Josh. I mean there's probably some interesting and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: to you a point, like I think the biggest problem
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: for them this year and I'm obviously way outside looking in,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: but I think it's it's him and all that he's been. Like,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think he put anywhere near the time to
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: prepare for the season that he normally does. And obviously
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: now we know why. Yeah, you know when he just
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like leaves training camp for eleven days, you think he
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to do that. Like, I think the biggest part
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of The problem with that offense right now is he's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: not quite as sharp as he normally is. And he
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: overcomes all these things like they still have good wide
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: receivers even though like it's a washed Julio Jones. He
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: is like the third guy, third, a fourth guy. Um
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: they have been like Evans. They just doesn't Byron Left,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: which is also on the radar of or is he
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: really any good? Because Brady calls the two minute offense himself,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and that's the only time they moved the ball, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that's the only time they moved the ball. So he
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: when they get to the line of scrimmage at the
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: two minute offense, Tom is calling the plays and all
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of a sudden their offense comes to life. And then
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: when they when they're in the other three and a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: half quarters of the game, they can't move the ball.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It was fascinating to watch that. Did you watch any
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of the manning thing last night? Um? So, Randy Moss
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: was on UM and he's told the story about UM
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: secretly meeting with the Patriots and O six at the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Monday night game. You've heard trapes of that. S
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: So he that was the year before. Obviously they traded
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: for him, and he has told the story of the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Patriots are playing on Monday night in Minnesota. He went
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to the hotel and he went in. I think he
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: met with Brady. Yeah, Doug Gabriel told him how great
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the offense Wasn't you already knew that part of it? Yeah, Oh,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I just learned that it was recent. It was recent.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I thought we talked about it though. No, I definitely
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: know the story of him meeting I did. He credited
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: all the credit last night Randy Moss gave to Doug
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Gabriel for when he was here in oh six. He
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: told him what a great facility and the structure of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the organization and how they have the whole program is
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: set up and this is a perfect place to play,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: which I thought was really funny given the way it
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: sort of ended for Doug Gabriel. I think he was
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a guy who was unreliable and they had to cut him,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like they got him in the middle, like you're desperate
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: for somebody, and he made some place when he was
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: here and they had to get rid of him because
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they felt like he was reliable
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and this this guy was the one who's selling Randy
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Moss on it. I thought that was past. Came out
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: at some other point in the last year, Paul, I'm
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: forgetting what but some kind of video. It was just
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the duck Gabriel Park that I wasn't a kind of
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. I had known. I'm pissed. I'm
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: blanking on all this because it was a whole story
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that came out. It's just how the whole courtship went
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and really interested going in Minnesota, somebody one of the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: colors they've been over. So Randy Moss said, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it was funny because Eli goes, uh, yeah, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and they call him Moss. You know, everybody calls Randy Moss.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: They just called him Moss. They go, yeah, Moss. Uh.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: You know, Eli still wants to know, he goes, Eli says,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he goes, p pat still wants to know if maybe
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you can tell that story to see if you can
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: get the Patriots charged with tampering. And it was kind
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of funny, but they sort of they talked to him like, so,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: how did you do it? Like how did you like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you just went to the hotel, and he said he
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: went into the hotel, he had like a hoodie, put
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the hood up and he went through the backstairs. He
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: went up with like fifteen flights of stairs. He said, wow,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to get to flew right up in my bed to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: get to the brady. Um. I thought it was really
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: be fair him going up fifteen fights star, not like
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: me doing Yeah, it's probably like a normal person going
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: up like three right, yeah, not like me doing it
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: where I would have had a stop at like flight eight.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yet feeling back in my quads. I think he also
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: mentioned last night I saw it somewhere on the tweet
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: machine that he had an opportunity to return to New
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: England near the end before he retired. I did not
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: see that, which but I wasn't like watching it intently.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I was going back and forth to some different like
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the Bruins were on, you know, Bruins are very entertainment
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: game on their way back in. Were you there? Did
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you do these last night? Bruce got a little emotional
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: playing team please. It was a really I mean, it
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: was a regular season game, which is meaningless in the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, but it was really entertaining regular
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: season right. Well, I it's funny that you said that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: As soon as the game was over, I immediately textured
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: blew up felgerl Tony and Jim Murray said, Bruins blew
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: feld to celebrate, I mean celebrates all right. Eight five
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the ace ticket hut line
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred. Web radio at Patriots
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: dot com is the email address? Anything else we need
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to talk about? We mentioned that the Patriots are flexed
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: out of the Las Vegas game. It's now a four
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: oh five game next Sunday. Any other voting voting for
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? Yes, voting for the Pro Bowl and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: December fifteenth, So use the hashtag Pro Bowl vote. Yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and either tag your favorite player or at least put
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: their last name in it to vote for them. Somehow
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I sense the excitement of Patriots fans for Pro Bowl voting.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Isn't there this year? No? Yeah, I did see that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Judon does is like the leader obviously for his position.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, other than that, so you got Jude On,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: who else? Marcus Jones, Mark Jones, probably Nick return Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he's going to be the All Pro returner, Yeah, just
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: like Gunner was, only he'll have earned it. Anyone else really,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: maybe Nick Fole, Maybe I don't know. Running back right.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Running back is tough for m Andre you know Nick Chubb. Yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of good running backs. Yeah. Also um
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man in the year. Yeah, yeah, every guy.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So he's the nominee. And then they announced it around
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and there's a lot of things that go
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: into an organization. It's not just the film, all right,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: we need to talk about the community. This was making
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the transition from regular media to team media tough for you. Huh.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Just embrace it. The team is embraced. The ship is sinking.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: We're talking about did you run into Koch was Nikovich
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: on your show today? I saw Nikovich running around and
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: was not he was coming running. For the first of all,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it's not my show, and he was not with us
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and and your boys. Teddy Bruski's out there with some
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: some fee and kids. I don't know if they're having
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: a fee and day. I wonder if the feeing coach
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: was is named one of the coaches of the week,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: because they're all here today. I think it's a year
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the coach of the year is the Wakefield coach, but
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Fien's coach may have been. I think Brian Pinnabell is
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: his name. He may have been the coach of the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, one of these weeks. I didn't know
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: what was going on. Everybody, like everybody was invited back
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: old Patriots. I was talking to Tip this morning. Yeah yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And of course the us Men got knocked out. But
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: there's hope for the future. That's what I'm here, is
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: this nineteen seventy six. Ye, there's hope for the future.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Did anyone go to any state championship games Friday Saturday? No,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I watched a little on TV, though I watched a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: good portion of them. Yeah. One of my sons KP
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: champs again. No, they got crushed. Really yeah, they please
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: see him. It's not their fault. Okay. They have to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: play the best team in the state in Division two,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, that's all right. Saint John's Prep beat
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Springfield Central, which is oh that's a big one. A
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: little bit of a little upset, a little bit of
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: an up set. And like I said, one of my
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: son's very best friends was the player of the game. Wow,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: thirty seven carries for one hundred and thirty eight yards touchdown.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: It's not a very good average. That he completely won
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the game. It was one of those. He kept getting
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: three yards every play. It's like James Cook. And no,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: he didn't get twenty eight like James Cook game. Um,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: it was like three yards at a time first down, Yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: like three and they just grinded out the clock. But
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like that was the height of
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like the rain early in the day. It was really
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: really sloppy. And I think the Springfield quarterback is a
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: kid named William Watson. They call him Pop. He's going
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in Nebraska, real good, like dual threat guy. I think
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: he was really neutralized by the way I was looking
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: at the ticket scans and ticket scams. Over the course
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of all the games, they had almost twenty thousand people.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, come here, that's pretty cool. Yeah, great venue.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: So he's gonna go play for Matt Rule, Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, there's I mean, there's a kid for
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Saint John's Prep. It's going to Georgia John Elle Aguero. Um.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want to put that kid in the Tom
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Brady category of everything goes right, but like it just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: sounds like that kind of kid, Like he's got the nickname,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: he's got the illiteration last name. It's just like he's
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: already set up to be that guy. Like you know,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I don't haven't even seen him, but I'm sure I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: know exactly what he looks like. Pop pop popos right
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: transferred to Colorado one one one final thing coming out
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of the game on Thursday, And I guess this is
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: for you, dude. Any repercussions on the cloak that Bill
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was wearing and for those for those of us he
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: has no time for you. Come on, let's get to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the over routes. Um no, I went over rout I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: need to tell about uh. For those who don't know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Bill in the second half, we
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: just emerged in one of those giant player cloak. It
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: was like he was on the vikings. He wanted to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: be the Walter Peyton manna, Like whoa if that wasn't
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a just a microcose him of where they're at. I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: know Bill put the cloak on. It was weird, it
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, I don't know. It didn't help. I'm
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: not going to record that one though, but I did
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: put a picture of it in the in the database.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: You're not going to repostity. No, I made a note
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: of it, made a note of it. But if anybody comes, so,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: let me ask you in terms of the data base,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: ye does does it get recorded when he starts the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: game that way? Like it doesn't count like if he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: puts it on later? Well, definitely, because he was wearing
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: something pregame, I think this week that was different. And
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: then he changed. Oh the only time he changed was
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in the twenty fifteen AFC Championship in Denver. He went
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: from like a hot jacket to the sweatshirt. And that
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: was one that was like a whoa, whoa, whoa, what's
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: going on there? That the mortar kick game? Was it
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the game he kicked off and over? No? No, this
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: is the playoff game they have not the coach of
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. That's thea. Those are my greatest hits. That
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: was Miami, my twenty and fifteen greatest hits games. That
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: was the game he had Gronk in the in for
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the two pointers. I just remember the fourth down play.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I forget about the rest of the game. It's very convenient.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I just thought I was rattled when I saw him
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: come out with the clothes. I didn't know what's going on.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: It must have been cozy in there though. Yeah, all right,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: so I guess we'll go to the phones. Um, we'll
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: start with Patty and Agawa. What's up Patty? Hey, what's up? Everyone?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: So I called into the postgame show and my network
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: dropped the call or my service serience probably didn't because
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I was pretty hammered. And um, I'm pretty sure I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was going to drop up an f bomber too. So,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to get a band from the
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: show Freddie right. So I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You know the universe works mysterious ways. Um, big picture
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: question though for you guys. Um, and I'm bringing this
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: up because that uh friend of the show, mister Bart,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I can't I don't know if it was him or
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: my Cathlick talking on their show how Bill may see.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia has a long term plan, he does, maybe
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to bring in a guy that's going
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to come for a year or two. I mean, if
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that's the case, and it's a big what it But
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: if that happened, any of you guys have any faith
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: that this offense is going to get better, even if
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: like they shore up the offense of blind because I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: sure as hell don't well, I mean, okay, so let's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: just say you believe that Patricia is not good right
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: now at what he's doing. Can he improve? I mean,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: is it possible that he gets better doing this? I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: mean you can't rule that out right. I mean I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: think they're on a clock though. I mean, I don't
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: think they have time to sit around and hey, I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: know it's terrible right now, but in six years, Like,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I don't like, you got to play to this year.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't, I don't I don't see it.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I don't have any confidence in this. But one thing
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: that you said, Patty that did kind of you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: resonate with me, is is Bill like after all the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: years of you know, getting that brain drain, people leaving, Like,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: is he getting tired of that? And like, yeah, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: do want somebody that I know is going to be
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: here for a few years. And you know, but this
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: is the problem with not promoting from within, right, Like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: this is the problem with not having a pipeline. And
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I would also mentally has had the pipeline and the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: pipelines dry now well, but this but that's his part
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: of his job is to continue to develop coaches. But
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: they've gone too fat. You know what I mean. You
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: can't like Josh was here for ten years. Yeah, I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: mean I think to a degree, like, but then he
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: left everybody with them. But this is what Saban deals
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: with all the time too at Alabama, and basically at
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Alabama it's a two year shelf life on an offensive coordinator.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It's Lane Kiffin to Sark to Billy Oh, you know
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: it's it's two years and he knows that. So what
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: they do is is they just passed the playbook from
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: coordinator to coordinator and everything kind of stays the same.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Each coordinator puts their own little spin on things because
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: that's what coaches do. But for the most part, the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: base offense for Alabama hasn't changed since Lane Kiffin was
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: there in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. So when you have
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a defensive minded head coach that that you have to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: be willing to work on offense like you have to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: be willing to for the fact that offense is not
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: where your expertise is and you're going to have a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: little bit of an evolving door there. And with Patricia,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I always go back. I love Batman, Christian Bale, love
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that series, that whole trilogy, and there's a scene with
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Bain right where Bain was like, I was born in
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the darkness and you simply you were simply adopted. Yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is adopting offense. He was not born in
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: offense right, Like he was not. That's not in his roots,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Like that's not in his makeup. He is a defensive
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: minded coach. Like can he get better? Yeah? I think
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you're right, Fred in the margins, And honestly, do you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: think he'll get discernibly better? I don't like anytime soon.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I didn't ask you if
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you very low bar to star. I asked you if
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you thought he would I think he can. I think
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: he would if if if he was given the time,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: he would get better. Okay, but what is the time,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Like you know, a couple seasons? Okay? Yeah, I mean yeah,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I think we'll get better if you give them three years.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: We don't have three yea mac Jones will be gone
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: by now. Yeah. I was gonna say three seasons as
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: a long time. And I don't know how much patience.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, as you can see for mac Jones on
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the sideline, I don't I don't know how much patience.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I think it takes time, and I think he would
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: get better. The question is that I don't think they're
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: gonna That's why I said before last game that there's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: going to be a shake up on offense next year.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's a different Yeah, I really, I really
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: hope so. Um And just to like sit on Eldred's
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: side of defense too. I mean, what would have been
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the harm of having keeping Patricia as an offensive as
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: system to the sort of groom think Kayley from within
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: to be the play caller and eventually the offensive coordinator.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least you wouldn't have to change systems.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: You could have kept the same um yeah system. And
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I wonder what the deal is with Kayley. What I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: hope isn't the case, and we'll find out from Elder
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Patty Patty, but what I hope isn't the case is
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: that they didn't do that because they felt like Kayley's
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: gonna leave. Like to me, I think Even's Alabama situation
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I think illustrates it. You have to know that if
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you if you pire people and put them in positions
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: to succeed, and they succeed, they're probably gonna leave Like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that to me, that shouldn't be a deterrent to do something,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and I've heard that too many times. I think it
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: might have been. I look at Buffalo and they had
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey right, and they they had Brian Dable, and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: they had Ken Dorsey grooming or Brian Dable grooming Ken
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Dorsey because they knew Briton Dable as a hell of
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a good coach and he's gonna get and Sean McDermott's
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a defensive coach, so they had the guy waiting to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: take over for Brian Dable and it was Ken Dorsey.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And I just the Alabama example and with Patricia go
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: back to the summer when the word Billy used was
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: streamlining the offense, and now, more than ever, I believe
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that they streamlined the offense because of the coaching staff,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: not because of the players. I don't think the coaching
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: staff was capable of coaching a complex offense to that level.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: So they pulled it back and they, I personally think
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: that water and that's why Ivan Fierce was here as
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: much as he was. He still someone had to teach
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: them he's still here, and Ivan Fiers, I think was
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: tasked with explaining to them what the you know what,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: what carry over that they have And I'm not saying
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that it's all the same as it used to be,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: but it's not also entirely different, right, And I think
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: they watered it down for the coaches. And now it
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: gets to the point where they're on third down, they're
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: running the same play over and over again on third down,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and Kendrick Bourne's like, they know what we're doing on
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: third down, and we got to scheme it up better
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: because they're running the same play. And that was two
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: weeks after guys were overheard in the locker room saying
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: the other team is calling out our place right. Uh,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: speaking of Eldred, he's on the phone. What's up, Eldred?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Hey doing good? Hell? Hey, hey dude a little bit too.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna pick it. You wish you're still lead time? Ah,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: that's I'm just picking. It's tired of twelve and four.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: You know what, man, you know what, Man, I can
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: ride that dude. It was in a wheelchair. You can
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: do a chuchdown mad ride him that far. But nothing
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: for that. But uh, on that post game, Deuce, I
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: felt your frustration. Yeah, heard ya all the way. And
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: y'all got mad at Kentry Borne and maybe Matt for
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: acting out. But don't y'all know players do be crap
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: from real stuff. Yeah you know, I don't. I mean,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I don't, So you know, you know you can't blame
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: them again first rate, because one you're cutting off the money,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: you're cutting off the bonus, and then you know it's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: then not being productive. And I was definitely, like I
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: said before, ass Kayley. Then Patricia called him plays because
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: he's the this is the minded coach. Ain't no way
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: he could pitch the offense like that. I'm sorry you
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: just that way. But we also have no idea if
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Keyley can do it. We don't know, but I understand
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: off you all down. Yeah, could be the worst. But
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: why do you think that Bill didn't like all these
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: people left with Josh? Why did Bill say no to Keyley?
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I guess is that he was under contract? Okay, so
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: but he still said no to him, right, and the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: others weren't, so he had no choice, that's my girl.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: So you're saying he would have said no to the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: other that's my guess. I don't do I know? Do
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I know that? Nope? Okay, nope, I mean that could
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. If that's the case, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you know offense undermid Daniel, So it makes perfectly sense. Bill,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Do you like like everything else? He like his guy
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and like drafted. He like his guy. He see the
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: athletic guys, interviewed them. You want to pick a cup
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: of them, but you won't move up to get him.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: The next team gets didn't come back kickout. But every
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: during time I came in for a visit, or he
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: would like this guy like Jeff or we wanted Debo,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: he came in. If you don't see him, but if
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: he seemed to kick out. But yeah, it's such a
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: great point because, yeah, I think that we're all talking
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: much about Patricia is something that I wanted to bring up.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: We're all talking so much about Patricia and the play
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: calling and the offensive coordinator and all this kind of stuff.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: And I think that that's like the four, that's the trees.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: But the forest is that Buffalo's rosters is better than yours. Yeah,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: they're just a better team than you are. They have
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: a better quarterback, they have better skill players, they have
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: better defensive players. They are a better team than you are.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: And to some extent too. As much. I'm not trying
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: to scape goat Patricia and say that he isn't actually bad, right,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and it's it's personnel and all that kind of stuff,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: But I think we also need to hold the team
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: accountable for their player personnel decisions and their player acquisition decisions.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: To Eldrick's point, you know they had in twenty nineteen.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: They have all these receivers in for visits. A J. Brown, Deebo,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Samuel Terry McLaurin, you know, nikkil Harry, right, they have
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: all these guys in for visits, and their decision is
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to draft Nikkiel, who's the worst out of all of
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: them by a mile. Last year they drafted Cole Strange, okay,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: because they created a hole and they drafted a guard.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And when they drafted him, I lost my marbles, all right,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: And I said, I said at the time, how does
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange help you against Buffalo? Like, how does that?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: How does a guard from Chattanooga in the first round?
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: How does that shrink the gap between you and Buffalo?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: How did it shrink the gap? On Thursday night? They didn't, right,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: And now Cole Strange has been benched twice in his
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: rookie season. PFF I think has him seventy fourth among
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: eighty three guards in their grading system right now, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are in a position where they don't have
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: any premium blue chip talent outside of like Matthew Judon
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and Romondre Stevenson. And I would also go to the
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: second round with Taekwon Thornton. Now, maybe with Taekwon if
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: they were willing to actually use him in a productive way,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: he would be a better player. But he's getting outperformed
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: by people that were drafted after him too. So it's
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: not just even as receivers, right, It's not just the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: in game coaching, It's not just the coordinating of the offense.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: The personnel decisions have been terrible for years as well. Yeah,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna piggyback on that a little bit, and I think,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I totally agree. This is the thing we
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: talk about. Why are they in this point where they
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I think bad drafting is the core of all of it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: But I'm also at the point now where I feel
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: like they're not developing players either. So like, as much
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: as they're missing on the draft picks, they're also drafting
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: some talented guys who are now going backwards. So I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: wonder where how are things meeting right now with this
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: coaching staff and the schemes and everything, because you could
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: bring I think you could bring in better coaching, and
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: you might get more production. You might feel better about
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: some of the players on this or I'm not saying
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that there's talented as Buffalo, but I just that's what's
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: distressing to me. All the points are right, but guys
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like Dug or Barmore, Mac Jones, you know, everybody, Isaiah Win,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah Win was a serviceable tackle and he's gone.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I mean he was hurt a lot, right and now
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: now it's like he doesn't play all the time, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: when he does play, he's kind of met. And that's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: one more point I make on this. This subject is
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: just the overall talking to have an upstairs about this.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Who wants to play on this team? Like and I know,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and like it just doesn't seem like they are a
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: team right now. You gotta do this every time we
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: get each other worked up. He because he comes in
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: all hot and bother about something whenever the first time
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: in the week after the game, and we've both been
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: sitting on our thoughts for like two days. This is
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: that's like I think when I when I look at
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: this Patriots team, like when I'm an outsider because I
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: did not grow up a Patriots fan at all. It's
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: like they, I think, pride themselves with great coaching and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick being such a great coach. And I'm
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: not saying he's not a great coach now, but I
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: think that now it's you're kind of seeing, like, Okay,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: all those guys left and went to Las Vegas. Bill
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Belichick is still here. He doesn't have the same coaching staff,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: but he also doesn't want to go out and like
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: pay money for all these stars either because he feels
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like he can do it without them. But now you're
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: reaching a point where you're like, Okay, I don't have
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the coach and I don't have the stars, and so
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: which one is he going to try to do get
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: better coaching or is he going to try to like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: get stars in the off season both? You got to
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: figure out what about getting star coaches? We just we
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: just not do things that that only you would do. Okay,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: that's the part that I love that, that's the part
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that I'm frustrated about the most wants to be different
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. Only Bill Belichick would make Matt Patrician offensive coordinator.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Nobody else would do that. And the strange, only Bill
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Belichick draft Cole Strange in the first round. And what
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: is the reaction to that? Like, there's so many, so
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: many reactions to that would be like, oh, like even
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft kind of said all that unorthodox, But he's
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: been unorthodox in the past and had success, right, right,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and so's And I'm not saying this move was met
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: with a lot of skepticism by not just the media
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: but by fans too. So I'm not saying that all
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: fans thought would it, But there were a lot of
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: people that were like, Oh, he's gonna make you guys
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: look like idiots? Like why, Like why is that the goal?
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't the goal just be let's have his productive an
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: offense for our second year quarterback as we can he may,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: let's provide as much of a support system as we can.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: He makes it harder on himself almost on purpose, right,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: And I feel like that, I know it sounds stupid,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it sounds, but I feel like he does that, yeah,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: because it's like if he had just like hired like
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Adam Gase just to use some random outside guy. That's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: where other teams would do, right, So if it works,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I don't get credit for that. I think he prides
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: himself on like doing things his own way and not
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: following the rest of the league. It's like the Rams
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: go ahead, stack their team up, they win a super Bowl.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: The Bills when after von Miller and all the other
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: guys that they have, it's like there, he just doesn't
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: want to do that. I wonder how much of it
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: is financial, Like if I think that's part of it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: He has a budget that he needs to keep and
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: they just spent what two hundred and seventy million the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: previous year in free agency because of all these issues
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: that Evan and Mike just I do as a player personnel. Look,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the caps a cap and I think his bogus, but
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: you're still only gonna be able to when you with
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: the cap space that they had in the off season.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: They had like one big move they could have made, right, Like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: they had one swing they could have made, and they're
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: not going to do that with the money that they
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: had just sent. Right that was from a coaching standpoint,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I think Adam Gays is a great example, because Adam Gays,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I think is coaching like high school football right now
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Like and Bill was spoken very
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: highly of him in the past, not just coach speak
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: highly of him, but like, I think he would not
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: have cost a lot of money to bring Adam Gayson.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: That's my point. Bill O'Brien would have cost him a
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: lot of money. Adam Gas would not have cost him
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. But I just it drives me
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: nuts because then everybody looks at like Paul was to
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Paul's point, everybody says, oh, why why why does the
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: media consensus board in the draft, Like why does that matter?
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Like who cares? Who cares what everybody in the media
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: says about who should go in the first round? You know,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: he's Bill Belichick. He Okay, Well, if I was running
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: their draft board, or if Mike was running their draft board,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: or if any mel Kiper was running their draft board,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: then Devin Lloyd would probably be a Patriot right now, right.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And I would also say, not necessarily, like individual, not
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: to break this into a draft thing, because I'm sure
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: we'll get a lot of that when the off season
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: gets here, But not necessarily talking specifically about individuals like
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd as opposed to Cole Strength Walker by Christian Watson. Yeah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of guys that were like, I
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: was so excited for Oh my god, it's happening at time.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: If you if you look bad. Yes to the times
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: when they sort of went unconventional at the draft, it
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: almost it really doesn't work a lot like the times
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: when they pick a guy that no one saw coming
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: is it's always like like everybody says Kyle Dugger. No
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: one thought Kyle Dugger's division two. That's exactly where Kyle
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Dugger was projected in that draft, yea early second round. Yeah,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: it's the guys that were projected like four rounds off
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: from where you pick haven't really worked out. Like Tavon Wilson. Yeah,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to think, you know, everybody like
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: like everybody don't don't Cliff you, Sean McVay, I will
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: never forget that, you know what. I and I don't
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: know how you feel about the seven because we weren't
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: on the shows together at the time. I think that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: he was laughing at himself because he really thought he
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: was going to get that guy in the fourth round. Right,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I think he was laughing at, Like I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: think everybody looked at he was making fun of the Patriots. No,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I think he was making fun of himself and less
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: sneed he was making fun of the Patriots. See, this
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: is what you deal with. Don't ever look in the mirror.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think that he was making fun of the Patriots.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Might get answers, but I do think on their board,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: they thought that he was going to be a third
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: or fourth round and they were laughing at the Patriots
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: for taking it off. I think they were laughing at
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: him for thinking he was going to be there in
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the fourth round. Yeah. So now when you when you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: look at some of the things that happened in the offseason,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: would you have kept those guys on the offensive line
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: so then you wouldn't have drafted Cole Strange and drafted
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a number one eye receiver instead. So they negotiated, and this, yes,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: to answer the question. In short, they they're negotiating with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Ted Carriss was a joke. Okay. They lowered their offered
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: at Ted Carriss like twenty minutes before he signed the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: contract with the Bengals. Yea, they lowered he came back
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: with their offer, with the offer of the three for
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: eighteen that he got from the Bengals the Patriots or
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: initial offers three for fifteen. Ted came back to the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Patriots and said, I got three from eighteen from Cincinnati.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Can we I want to stay in New England, but
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: can we bridge this gap? And they lowered the offer. Wow,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: where'd you hear that? Can't tell you when he was
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a big JJ. That was just a lowercase Jay. They
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: lowered the offer, and so what not the first person
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: they've done that with too, Shack Mason, but Andrews shack Mason.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I think you can make the case that at ten
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: and a half million dollars for shack Mason performance relative
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: to contract, maybe not the best deal in the world.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: But if they had somebody like Ted Carriss here who
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: could have started this season and they didn't have to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: use either use a first trum pick on Cole Strange
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: or throw him out to the Wolves in his rookie
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: season and they could have broken him in a little bit,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: would it be better. Absolutely would be better. I think
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: that big mistake was they franchise Tuney instead of just
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: extend him and overpay him a little bit, but just
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: keep him. He's he can play like four positions. My
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: whole thing to me where I differ with the Patriots
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: is I don't care like winning the contract. Like Evan
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: just said, you know, maybe you can make an argument
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: ten whatever million not commensurate with you, but you know,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and you just said, like the franchise, Like, to me,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the only the only factor should be is this guy
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a player? Can he play? Does he do what we
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: need him to do? Joe Tuney yes, Jack Mason yes,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Ted Carris yes, But yet we're saying, yeah, he does
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: what we want him to do, but not for that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: my terms, not for that he needs to do it
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: for this, Like why is that to be? And I'm
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: not suggesting you give a guard like twenty eight million,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: like no, but like yeah, you definitely get what you
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: pay for it. But you know, is Joe Tony worth
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: you know whatever? The what was it fourteen million? What
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: was then the franchise? No, he probably wasn't worth that,
• 1:03:10
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  Speaker 1: flex him all the way out to the right, and
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  Speaker 1: bills defenders two have the angle on you, and we
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  Speaker 1: her with the third and tenth from the forty one.
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  Speaker 1: He takes the snap with a fake inside his ships
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  Speaker 1: be wrapped up at the forty three and go England
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  Speaker 1: and thrown backwards. Yeah, he's still on his feet, but
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  Speaker 1: A couple of times. Buffalo goes to work here with
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  Speaker 1: I fire into the end zone left back carner. It's
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo has gone back in front. Wow with that easy
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  Speaker 1: all day to throw. I mean he run a long
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: dated play action pass. He resets, he knows, Oh they're
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  Speaker 1: only Russian three and Diggs just does a little in
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  Speaker 1: shaken and cuts it back out and Alan throws a
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  Speaker 1: rifle rocket shot right in the back water route. Oh
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  Speaker 1: Man hides off his left hip. He takes the stead off,
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  Speaker 1: he shuffles back. He rolls to his wife Alan outside
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  Speaker 1: the party that he's being Jake blayhackroll. He grows a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sidelines. I finds your receiver. Touchdown Buffalo, Hellena Davis.
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  Speaker 1: the way to the firest sideline with defense number thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: This bunals decline the results of the play. There's a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: fires back across his body and Wilson bounces. Just made
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  Speaker 1: for a sixteen seven league. I mean, Josh Hallen's hop steaded.
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  Speaker 1: Get a chance to lay him out on the sideline.
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  Speaker 1: his big hurt arm. The thrown in there to the receiver,
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  Speaker 1: middle of my Singletary into the end zone on its feet. Touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo untouched right in the middle. Fourth touchdown rushing for
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  Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. They have the last four games for the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just the way this game was gone, you
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  Speaker 1: know eventually the damn's gonna break. I don't how much
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  Speaker 1: more you can hold him at seventeen offense can't do
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  Speaker 1: anything but three and punt, and the Patriots, looking at
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  Speaker 1: a third and fifteen backed up to their thirty eight
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  Speaker 1: high staff is back to Jones. A deep drop stands
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  Speaker 1: here today. That's the stake because it's down below our booth.
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  Speaker 1: Happened with what they're seeing. They've won four of the
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  Speaker 1: last five. Jones takes the snap first and ten from
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  Speaker 1: the forty nine mac. Pressured from our ride's being chased,
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  Speaker 1: he backs up. He circles back the wonder said Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Jill on the run. A woman not blocking that defends
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  Speaker 1: Jones throws at your side, dropped by Bourn. Matt. Jones
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  Speaker 1: look circling all around the field and pursue Jordan Phillips
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  Speaker 1: coming back across the field pass the five standard oweo.
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  Speaker 1: Jones gets it to Bourne, who drops it. Is this
• 1:15:22
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• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: trying to keep a play alive. I've never seen anything
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  Speaker 1: Third down staff looming from the patriot forty seven yard
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  Speaker 1: line again Victory formation, Alan takes the knee and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots indeed drop a second straight Thursday Night affair.
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  Speaker 1: They falled in six and six. The Buffalo Bills improved
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  Speaker 1: to nine and three. They can coninue their recent dominance
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  Speaker 1: that along. Yeah, so they handle all that and now
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Rich hits his son in the temple with the with
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: the chronicled up wrapping paper. I like that job too.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: It gives me, it gives me purpose. Yeah, we're not
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  Speaker 1: even gonna have to clean up. I'm doing it all
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  Speaker 1: right now A welcome. Yeah, all right. Five five past
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: five hundred is the ACE ticket outline web radio at
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Patrice dot com. We got some callers that have been
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: holding on. Thank you. Let's go to Willem. Fella, what's up?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Will they thank you? Fred? Before I go back to work?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, I'm just gonna get strin First
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: of all, they dude, how did this feel? Uh? Three
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: four years now? Time didn't you say? Uh, I'm trying
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: to coach the work that you said at this time?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: It was gonna poor Mike, it'd be fun. I think
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it'll be fun. I've had a lot of people they're
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: still mad that I thought it would be fun. I
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: gotta get them. I gotta get But I got acause
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: he was like I want to put I remember what
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: he's saying. It's like, I'm ready to try something. Move now.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to move on on it. It was gonna
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: something like that too. Yeah. I wish it could have
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: lasted forever. I do. I do wish it could have lasted.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: That tweet didn't last long. Is it working out for you, Mike?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: How was it working out for all of us not well, right,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I mean what I mean, if I could have hit
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: pause in twenty eight for me and Fred, we didn't
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: want to pull the famous quote for for duces. I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: am so tired of twelve and four. We suck, we've stagnated.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Oh I got you see. That's what happens coming me boy,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: And that's this is what um, this is what all
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: of y'all at the fame even though Mry, I know
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: you new to this no with the team and all
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: and everything though, but I'm gonna go switch you in
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: anyway because you wouldn't okay, even age too on half
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: of that. So why haven't okay you called out man?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Y'all call out man for Church. You've called out anybody
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: but the main front running death running the whole show.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Y'all never call him out, either of you, Evan, even
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: when you add the YouTube thing when you and Alex
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: we're doing, y'all never called him called out Bill? Why
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: did you listen to the first hour of the show. Wow,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: took you wrong enough? Right? I mean, I think we
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: gave him the benefits of that man. But here's the thing,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: and I hear what you're saying, William, I all right,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I believe William has some things to say. Okay, go ahead, yeah, remember, Paul,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: you won't me have a d M when you learn
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: how to argue. I got more right now, yes, okay,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: doing well? Okay, So I'm saying, nice, How long how
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: long you have y'all seen Bill mess up the rough?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: But how long have you seen them mess up the draft?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: When you could have got Justin Herbert? You didn't want?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: When when could they have gotten Justin Herbert? First of all, wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: wait wait wait, tell me how they could have drafted
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I don't disagree with your general point, but
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: make it right. Please up and oh yeah, so they're
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: supposed to trade up what Justin Herbert's draft was? Yeah, okay, yeah,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: fifteen picks to trade up for Justin Herbert? You got it,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: you got it? Okay, keep going, Okay, Okay, that was
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: good for you, Paul. It's good arguing. Yeah, but I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: kind of agree with em. And then I think Justin
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Herbert was a little out of I've also watched Bill
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: be one of the great coaches of all time for
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: a long time too, and I can't think of who
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: I would rather have instead. Of him. Okay, okay, Fred,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: let me get you push back. Okay, I get it, y'all.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying, and I agree with you. He's a grist,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I guess, the brest coach of a time. But look
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: at what's going on for the past three four years. Man,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: you can't destes mans to be argued at this point. Man,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: don't don't stick people bows. Ain't gonna hold up weight
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: man at this point? Yeah, you know, I mean, how
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: long you don't think anybody's defending he's the greatest. He's
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: the greatest coach at all time. Look at the rocks,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the ladies and gentlemen. Look at the time, the offensive coortineers.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing. He's still hockey foot Man
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: didn't say he does with best for his team. Really
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: look at it. Look at his because because joint practices,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: because the off seasons, the weapons. Look at it. Yeah,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I say, listen, you know it's it's a results oriented
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: business and right now he's not getting the results. There's
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean, what can you say?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: And he said it himself. I'm in charge. I put
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: it on me, right, So I understand that, Fred, But
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: pictures on Philter nick y'all never called him out. I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think we spend a lot of times times.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of people in my mentions would disagree. So so, William,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: let me let me ask you a question. Are you called?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Are you calling for the firing of Bill Belichick? No,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: I don't do What are we doing so close? Okay?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: tell you what. I'm gonna say, what I think won't
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: happened just because he wants his BIA. Okay, all right,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you off the front. Go. I don't
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: hope mister Craft with his air Force one is right
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: every day. I hope he just put things in check
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: with him now if Bill don't want to roll with it, basically, yeah, okay, okay,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna get your wish. But yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I also think that all ee in the room, I
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen with with that, Like I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: think everyone in the room is there. Yeah, we get
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I think most people, most rational people, gave Bill a
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: couple of years to rebuild the team, and now that
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: the team is not where where it needs to be,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: where he's started starting to get plenty of pushback from us,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: from everybody else in the media or around here. I
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: don't know what else we're supposed to say. That's why
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I love y'all. I listen to yall. All right, all right, thanks,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: thanks William, Thanks William. I hope that police were up
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: to him throwing off against the cruiser or something. They
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: could have had justice rubber. But listen, I hear what
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: he's saying, and like we were talking about it at
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, and maybe even before the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: show started. You know, definitely, the human cry is negative
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: toward Bill these days. You don't hear the Belichick people
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: these and maybe they're just being quiet and there, you know,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: because they don't have much to say right now. But
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: the tide is turned and h but the thing is, like,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: are you calling for him to be fired? Well, no,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I just want to think it's funny that it took
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: him hiring a defensive coordinator as the offensive coordinator for
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: people to family say I'm not sure you're doing the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: right thing. I just you know, it's so like they
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: were saying it on the blog, you know, Bubba, you
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: know when I said, Okay, who do you want Sean
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: You know, Sean Payton's name gets really you know, first
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: of all, I think the Saints still have his rights, right,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: so you have to go shape with them and give
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: them something in order to get him. And if you
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: believe he's the guy, you do that, you give up
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: a first round pick for. I'm just surprised that you're
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: a lukewarm on I'm a little bit lukewarm on him.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I would take him, yeah, yeah, why offensive guys? Yeah,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: one of the best offensive coaches in the league. Yeah,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: I would take him. What's he one without Drew Brees?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean nothing, but like what you need
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: to find a way to help your quarter? What did
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees win without him? Yeah? I know. It's so
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: so Sean Payton. Just when you thought I was gonna
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: zing who else? Who else? I don't, I don't. I mean,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: this isn't about the head coach. It's not. Oh not,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not not either, But I just I bristle at
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: the who would you rather have? I don't really know
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: all the principles available. And if I think my head
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: coach isn't getting the job done, I need to move on. Yeah,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: but they're all imperfect. So I'll take the best one
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: that's imperfect, and that's Bill Belichick. I still think the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: biggest thing to me, to me is what we were
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: talking about a break. It's accountability. Okay, it's somebody and
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I think that to a degree, And maybe this is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: why some of their personnel moves for a couple of
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: years there were a little bit different. I do think
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: from what I had heard that that Dave Ziegler was
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: able to push back a little bit on Bill and
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: the draft from in that twenty twenty draft, and that
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: that draft ended up working out pretty well. But I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: heard the last two years we drafted better. I mean
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: twenty one draft. Excuse me, everybody likes the last two drafts.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure about this last. I'm not sure about
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, well, strange will be fine, be okay, Well,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: if they all do things that they haven't done yet,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: the draft will be good. Yeah, you're right, But racist
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Jones is good. I think it's accountable right, Like he
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: at this point, he's allowed to just do whatever he
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: wants and get away with it. Yeah, and the only
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: person because he's the the tzar of football here, there's
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: nobody above him, and football. And look, I think Macro
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: is a has a bright football mind when it comes
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: to scouting. That guy ain't standing up to Bill. I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: can just tell you right now that guy is not
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: gonna go up to Bill. And just look at it.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Look at it, Like from Afar, this is the son
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: of one of his former coaches, right that he coached
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: with Froll. How is he in the league. Yeah, it's
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: just his person. He Alway job too. Yeah, Like I'm
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: not telling you that he can't stand up to him,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: but empirically you look from Afar the circumstantial evidence. Do
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: you think the son of al Grow, who's got his
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: job because of your connection to Bill Belichick from al
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Grow is going to be the guy that's saying no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: cold Strange, we need to draft. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening. I don't know. I don't
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: know the answer to that. The only guy that he
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: got Elliott Wolf, I don't know what his Wolf was
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: yelling at everybody. The only guy made. I don't blame him.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: The only guy that I think can hold him accountable
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: is mister Kraft, Like he's the only guy that can
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: that can say, hey, the only buddy person above you
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: in this organization, is That's true, right, And he's the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: only one. Like I feel like mister Kraft has to
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: be our savior at this point, right, like, can you
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: like please like like give us something, you know, speak
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: for us, right, speak for the fans, speak for the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: people that care about this team. But because he just
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: does what But the only thing I want my owner doing,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and I don't care what sport it is, is to
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: tell my head guy do better. I don't want him
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: telling what to do because that's not his area of expertise.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: And then holding accountable, you know, do better, and you know,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: give him parameters if you don't do better by this
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: point or whatever. But that's really all in my opinion,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: and owners should be do is holding people accountable. If
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: your Mike's not on, it was on. Sorry. Um So
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: what if, for example, he says do better, but Bill's like,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing is better, like and he doesn't want
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: to change anything, you know? Then what if he wants
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: to give Patricia another year? What if he's like, Okay,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: we tried it, but I think one more year would work. Yeah,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: like that, then you cut ties? Yeah, I mean, Evin
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: said the word accountability. And I think something that's frustrating
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: for fans like me is that there's not a lot
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: of accountability based on the product we've seen over the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: last three years, how the seasons have followed similar trajectories.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: What does accountable What does accountability look like? I think
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: it's going pretty good. Like that's not that's I'll give
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: you an example, Okay. And I'm not telling like you
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: know me, I'm not a big advocate of like this
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: guy needs to be fired, that guy needs to be fired, right,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: losing job, just like I'm not a hot day. But
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: in terms of what Mike just talked about accountability, have
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: you ever seen a team for a whole year have
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: special teams as bad as the Patriots did last year?
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: And they continue? Right? Yeah? I mean, how many punts
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: do we have blocked last year? Three? Right? And I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: had a field goal blocked, I believe too. Uh. And
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, returns were you know, not not returns
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: for touchdowns but returned the journing game was a problem.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Their special teams were abysmal last year and nothing changed.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: And now Bill's been here for twenty you know, head
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: coach for twenty two years, and I don't know the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: answer to this during a season. Has he ever fired
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: a coach or demoted a coach during during a season?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: But they've moved on from coaches, Oh yeah after the season.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Who is the last one I can think of that
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: they they moved on, but I can think of different
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: like Dean Peas all of a sudden was gone as
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: when it was defensive. Yeah, but like the fact that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: and again I'm not saying like poor cam cam Accord,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: like I don't know if he's a great coach or not,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: but like I don't think you can form any worse
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: than that. Like maybe green Bay. Green Bay's special teams
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: were pretty bad last year ultimately cost them the season.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: They moved on, they got a new guy. But but
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: like I want to make this point right on top
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: of years, is like everyone is terrified right now. The
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Bill's just going to say, no, we like what's going on,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: We're to bring them back. And I want to get
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: to Bill's quote this swarning because Evan and I were
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: in the press conference. Um, but Fred, when you said, like,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: do you think the owners should never tell the coach
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: what to do? Yeah, Like, like football, I don't want
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: to meddling but I wanted, and I told like I
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: would largely agree with that one hundred percent. I think
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: the best owners allowed the people that they hired to
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: do their jobs, and then if they don't do it,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: you get rid of them. But what I would ask is,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: would you consider if if Robert had a talk with Bill,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: you know, middle of January, assuming that they're done, and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: said this didn't work. The way we had it set
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: up on offense didn't work. The players aren't happy, the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: fans are not happy. We need to do something different.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Is that telling him what to do? No? Okay, I agree, No,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think he'd be well within his rights
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: to have that conversation with Bill. This is and then
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: it'll be up to Bill to say, I'm not letting
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: this guy tell me I need to make changes to
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: my coaching staff. And then you well, my first I
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: don't think he would leave. I think he would say okay,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: my initial my initial conversation would be okay, over the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: last two years, are you happy with how things have
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: turned out? If if if Bill says yeah, okay, we
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: got a problem. If he says yeah, I'm as unhappy
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: as you are. Robert. My second question is what are
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: you going to do about it? I give him a chance, Yeah,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't ye, And then I listen, what are you
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: going to do about I don't give him a chance?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: And if he said and if and if he says
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: and if he says, well we're just gonna keep, then
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: I got a problem. Yeah, but tell me what you're
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: gonna I feel like we had that conversation two years
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: ago though, like before the Mac draft, like you know,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: like that's when it felt like the come to Jesus
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: moment of hey, that's what Evan's talking about with Ziegler
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: maybe had a little say, had a little backbone connected
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: to this draft, which I agree this draft was not
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: what they needed right now. I mean, this is this
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: draft is looking like this is exactly what you didn't
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: need at this point in the quarter. Right now, this
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: draft is draft is average at best. I don't like
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: determining what a draft is, you know, thirteen weeks into
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: guys NFL careers. But we had no problem doing that.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Last year. Everybody said what a home run the draft was.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: And last year was mac Stevenson and Barmore And last
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: year what do they do? They drafted two guys from
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Alabama and two guys from Oklahoma and this year they
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: and they went three for four. Can we shop at like,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: can we get some name brand play like players, Like
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: can we can we draft guys from the SEC? Like
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: can we draft guys from that that played big time
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: college football? Not Chattanooga? Not no offense to Baylor. I
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: know they're in the Big twelve, which doesn't play defense.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: So when Taekwon Thornton's out there and running through guys
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: at four, two, eight and at in the Big twelve,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: what difference does it make? Right? And this is this
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: is what I get back to with the you know,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: giving him a chance to say this is what I'm
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: gonna do about it? No, no no, no, no no. If mac
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Jones played last year as a rookie the way he's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: played this year and Barmore got hurt the way he
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: did this year and hasn't really played, how would you
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: look at last year's draft. Yeah, but everybody just decided,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, because these guys had success. Immediately the home
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: run on that draft home run, well, let's see, right,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: And once that became the narrative, you had to stick
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: to it because he's your quarterback now. And now you're
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: like invested. Let's see how they say the same thing
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: about this year's draft too, exactly exactly. I don't like
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: making determinations thirteen games into a guy's career that the
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: guy can play or not. Ronnie Perkins last year he
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: didn't play. This year hasn't played. I don't know, like
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: we've never seen him. It's the thought like I could
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: be convinced even though I didn't want Cold Strange, I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: probably wanted Lloyd. I wanted a faster linebacker. But you
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: can convince me those first two picks, may you could
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the logic, we need help on the offensive line, okay,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: and we want to add speed to our offense, and
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: so you can the logic was there. It's like, maybe
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: they didn't pick the right guy, but the logic was there.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Same thing with free agency there and the drafted to
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: kill Harry too. They had a need at receiver, right,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: but they didn't there There was more logic about that
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: than drafting the guard in the first round. We're just
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: getting to the point of third guard in the first round,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: where we're getting to the point where the fact that
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: they're drafting the wrong players year after year after year
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: has there has to be some accountability for that. Yeah,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: there has to be a point in time where we
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: say why is this key? Pat Robert said it at
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: the owners meetings that our drafts have not been good enough.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: And I would not sit there and say to to Belichick,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: like you have to hire Bill O'Brien, like you have
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: to hire no that that would be telling him what
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: to do, right. I would say to him, you need
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: to hire an offensive coordinator that has a history of
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: coaching offense, right, Like you need to hire a real
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator next year. Yeah, that would be item number
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: one on the list. Like that, You not what are
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: offensive coaches period? Like everybody's I think stretched too thin.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: I think that's part of it too. You need to
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: hire a real offensive coordinator. I would love for them
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: to hire a real offensive line coach as well. And
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: the other thing that I would honestly say to him
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: at this point, too, is the name of the game
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: at receiver has changed. Like you cannot go about the
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: wide receiver position anymore, the way that they want to
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: go about and shop shopping at the dollar store, like
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: making acquisitions for Davante Parker, Like the game has changed,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Like the trades that are helping teams are A J. Brown,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Tyree Hill, you know, Stefan Digs a couple of years
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: ago to Buffalo, DeAndre Hopkins who they'll play on Sunday,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: to Arizona. Like these are the trades that have moved
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: the needles for Teach. By the way, speaking of free agents,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: DeVante Adams over the weekend is I mean, he's really
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: clicking now we have to deal with him. He makes
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: me nervous. And I was talking to someone earlier, I'm like,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: I can just picture John Jones on him, just like
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Justin Deperson pulling, trying to pull him down by the face,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: man concerned. I mean we saw in Vegas. I mean
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: we've already we've already gotten a glimpse of it. I mean,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: for me, it was it was Jalen Mills, which one
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: wrap up the sideline was like they were they were
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: side by side and then all of a sudden, Adams
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: just put the hammer down and was like bye bye, Joe.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I mean right over. Plus, I mean the Raiders are
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: starting to play a little bit better defensively, which their
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: defense has been like historically bad all year. All of
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: a sudden, your boys, Chandler, Chandler three sacks the other day. Um,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: and they're supposed to be getting Renfro and Waller back,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: who are eligible. They have refused with that now and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: they have a cupcake Thursday. I mean Thursday night. Road
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: games are never cupcakes. But Vegas to La isn't exactly. Uh,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: you know, they should beat the Rams if they if
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: they beat the Rams, Patriots if they If they beat
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: the Rams, they have a chance to pass you the
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: following week, regardless of what the Patriots. I just don't
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence either. And look, I think the
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: Davante Adams situation is really particular because he wanted to
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: play with Derek Carr. So that's like, you know, one thing.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: But Ziegler and McDaniels finally get get away from the
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: nest here in New England and the first move they
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: make is to go trade for high. It's not that
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: it makes you feel better, like I don't want to
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: like turn the Patriots into the Red Sox and like, oh,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: it's great that you're you're in on all these guys,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: But did you hear the Patriots name with a J.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Brown or DeAndre Hopkins or Davante Adams, Like I'd never
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: like heard any like they had a J. Brown for
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: a rookie visit here that was no. I mean, I mean,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: when the time, why why is it that their names
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: aren't because I don't think they look at it. I
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: think they think everybody else is dumb for overpaying the receivers.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: I think that too. I think they look at it
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: and they say, that's not how you actually build a
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: football team. That might be how you build it in
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Madden or Fantasy football. But things have changed. But I
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: agree with Ed. I don't think I think that they
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: believe changed that the Agalore is the Bourns, the Parkers
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: of the world is a better investment than pained Tyree
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: killed thirty million dollars and it's just like, you know,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: the quarterback is even changing. I mean like, I don't
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: even think that they would ever. I could not foresee
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: them drafting adjustin fields like someone mobile, Oh see that one.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: I couldn't see it. I think they were strongly interested
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson. I think they really really kicked the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: tires on Lamar Jackson. I don't think that they closed
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: the door on that. But now the problem would be
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: are they willing to give that kind of guy like
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: two hundred and forty million guaranteed, which was what Baltimore's
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: dilemma is, right right, Yeah, they don't know if they
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: want to do that now that I don't know. And
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: if you get one of these quarterbacks that demands top dollars,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: they were lucky that they you and I don't think
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Brady gave a lot back to the table. But Brady
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: didn't demand to be the highest paid guy. He could
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: have asked and he could he could, he could have
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: He and Peyton could have been at the top of
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: the list every year, and Brady it wasn't important to
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: him to be at the top of the list. And
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: they were fortunate with that. I allowed all the other
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: salaries to drop under his lively conversation. People calling, emailing.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: I want to get to some of the emails, but
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: let's unstack the phones here, Christians in Boston, what's up,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Chris with A T, I, A N. Hey, A lot
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: of hatefill um, you can add me to the list.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's time to move on. Wow. And I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: just spent a batter part of the whole row listening
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: to you rattle off the litany of reason, and they're
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: all down. I mean, this is a third year in
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: a row that you get embarrassed from trimetime by the
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: same team and you don't have an answer to And Fred,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: you mentioned in the post game show that in the
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: chat a lot of people stay of the crash thing. Yep,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: what do they think? They got a company that's worth
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: five billion dollars? I want to go, I think you're
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: worth five billion dollars and you can't get a phone there? Right?
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Are you calling from Ukraine? Where are you calling from?
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I want to really crappy. Okay, all right?
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Because it was Christians. I wouldn't have done that to
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: kill a guy. Yeah, so Christians as hardcore fantasy can
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: get right? No, because I think NBC Sports Boston tweeted
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: out earlier today a poll. You know we're talking about
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: just like the Ovan thing, like all the different things
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: that have gone wrong. Should they should the crass be
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: considering a change at coach? And someone had read this
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: to me and like laught and like how ridiculous is that?
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean, Like, do you
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: think then the guy goes? Do you think he should
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: be fired? I said, no, I don't, but I can
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: understand someone who who does Like, since Brady's left, it's
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: gone downhill, right, So was it him or was it Brady?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Like I think if someone had that mentality, I'm not hitting,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you you're right. And I
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: think it was Brady and Belichick together. I think that
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: that they succeeded together. Someone else might not look at
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: it that way. Is that unfair? And I don't even
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: look at it through the Brady versus Belichick think. I
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: just it's been going down hill. No, But that's what
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, like like it's just it's
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: just like I think Bill deserves the chance to sort
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: of fix this mess that I think largely he created.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: But I think he deserves the child Pete Carroll when
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: he was here starting the playoffs. By the time he left,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: he never had a losing season. His last season was
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: eight and eight, ten and six, nine and seven eight.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Clairett was going in the wrong direction. I'll be interested
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: to see if, like mister Kraft will like meet with
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: players on offense to kind of hear what they have
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: to say. Would you do that, like kind of like Robert,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: that's dangerous, that's dangerous. And you also get into but
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: the things that Kendrick Bourne said after the game b personally,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I will defend Kendrick Bourne, and if they make him
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: inactive on Monday night, that is bogus because this offense
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: is an absolute train wreck and they have good they
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: have good enough players for it to be better, and
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: he was just inactive. Mike resaid on the radio yesterday
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: that he might be inactive for the game. See I
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: would just if you if you're gonna make him an active,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: just cut him. What are you gonna make him in act?
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: In fact that he's inactive or he's bench You know,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: he dresses, but he doesn't play, like whatever the case
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: may be. To me, that is just so ridiculous that
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: he actually had the backbone to stand up on on
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Thursday night and say what everybody else was thinking and
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: everybody else knew was to be the truth about what
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: was going on with the offense. And because he was right,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: you're you're gonna bench him And I'm look, I'm getting
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: mad at them for doing something that they haven't done yet,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: but I just I just see it coming, like I
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: we know how this this goes. And Kendrick Bourne's already
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: been down this road with this if what if from
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: the get go two strikes Bill has said, this is
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: how we were on here. We don't air our dirty laundry.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Come to me, Come to your position, coach. But if
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: he already flip over a table in your position meeting,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: do whatever you do, but don't do it publicly. When
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: then he's done it twice al what if he already
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: has more than that? What if he already has but
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: other guys have done it publicly too? Yeah? Yeah, what
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: he means? What if he already has? What if kender
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Bourne already has? Because I don't think did Kendrick Bourne
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: said anything to us on Thursday night that he hasn't
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: already said to the coaches? Yeah so awesto. I also
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: didn't in my opinion, because I was standing right there
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: with Evan. I don't think anything that he said was bad.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like he started off, he definitely paused
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: before a lot of his answers, but I liked how
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: he kept bringing it back to like I wish Mac
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: had more time he was. I think he was really contradictory,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, maxis press converence, like he
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: would say something and then bring it back because he
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: had because he had to praise the coaches every thirty seconds,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: and we're saying things like we need to go down field. Boy,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Mac doesn't have any time, Like, I don't know, you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: borne thoroughly confused me. Yeah, I just but I'm with Evan.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the rant. No, I didn't. I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to say that based on I think William called
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: like saying, I like, I have no problem with with
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: what they're what they were doing after the game and
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: talking about I mean, everybody's frustrated, like everything they said.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, you know, and even like it's
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: not the fact that Kendrick too, He's like, it's so
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: annoying not being able to captain on what our defense
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: is doing. You finally forced the Bills to punt, then
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: you can't do anything. You get a turnover, you literally
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: can't do anything. He's like, it's annoying, it's frustrating. And
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: then you have Max sing he wants to be coach harder, right,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Cord that wrong's wrong. I want to be coached harder.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: That game plan was designed to essentially take advantage of
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: the fact that the Bills are near the bottom of
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: the league and miss tackles, which by the way, was
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: accumulated when they had like half their defense out due
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: to injury. And on top of all of that, the
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: only guy that could make the miss a tackle is
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. So you had to play Marcus Jones on
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: offense to have one play to take advantage of that
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: on those lines. Can I ask you real quick and
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: if you just one word answer, do you think if
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Tae Kwon Thornton had that same bubble screen it's a touchdown? No? No,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, probably, No, I don't. I
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: mean I he I thought that might be alone on
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: that No, No, I didn't. Like I think it was
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: a special run. I think if they got the ball
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: to him ten yards downfield and he could lead, he could. Yeah. No,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: one's going to catch a pure acceleration. Well, to me,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: it was also setting like he only had Parker in
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: front of him, and there were two guys there in
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: decent position, and he's sort of like like a punt return. Yeah,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: it was instinctive. He set the guy up perfectly and
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: then he outran the angle r To me, it's totally
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: different type of speed. Yeah, Tai Kwon is a vertical speed.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Type of guy. Marcus Jones is like Devin Hester speed. Right,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: it's shifty. It's Tyreek Hill's speed. Whereas Taekwon is is
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: he's you know, Deshaun Jackson's speed. It's just a different,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: different level. All right, A couple more calls. I apologize
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: so many emails. But we've had a good show. We have.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: We haven't got to any Todds in North Carolina quickly
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Todd for Film and Christian with a ti N ESPN
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: threw something on earlier Staton comparing Pete Carroll and what
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: happened when they lost Willson to Belichick, when he lost Brady,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: and how Pete Carroll has got his team back playing well.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: I know their division is kind of but still, they
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: did a really good comparison and they basically said, you know,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Bill's missing the boat. There's something wrong there. It's not
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: working out. You know, he's just not being getting the
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: team to perform, and he's up putting the people in
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: the right place and he doesn't even have the right people.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: And it was a really good thing. So I thought,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: you know what, what Christian said, it's time for a change.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: I'm with him. I'm gonna put my neck on the
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: line with Christian. All Right, thank you guys. Thanks Todd.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Rashad's in Baltimore. What's up with shod? Hey, what's up?
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make it quick. I just gotta
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: say I'm not looking forward to saying John Jones again
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the next the I mean, the rest of the season,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: the next number one wide receivers, Like, does he cover
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Hopkins in man coverage? And he's one on one with
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: the best wide receiver and he's always getting dragged down,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: He's always behind Tralon, Like, he's not a number one corner, Bill,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: He's not a number one corn Yeah, well, we don't
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: have a number one corner. I think he is the
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: number one corner in certain matchups. Yeah, yeah, when the
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: other team doesn't have a number one receiver, right, No,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: no plays one. But don't put don't put him in
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: a position where he's going to have to do the
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: best wide receiver and you know he can do it.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: You know he can't do it. And if you double
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: the double to wide receiver, that usually does a bad either.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: So it's like, but it's a lot of things. I
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: know it shows about the end. But that's that's what
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I had to get off my jack. I think that. Okay, thanks,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: So do you think it would have been any different
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: on Thursday if Jalen Mills would have played like what,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would have helped a little. But
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: I think that and if he doesn't play on Monday night,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Jala Mills does not play on Monday night, I think
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: it's less of a bad thing than it would have
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: been against the Bills. Yeah, I mean I would say
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: that Mill because I think Jack Jones lost some playing
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: time the other night. I don't think Jack Jones has
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: played very well. I know he had like the flashy
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: takeaways against Green Bay. I don't think he's been that good. Um.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: I think he lost some playing time as a result
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: of some of the players that I thought he didn't
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: make that. I don't know that. No one's told me
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: that he was losing because of his play. Maybe Jalen
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: mills presence allows them to play him less. I think
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones has been exactly like what Treyvon Diggs was
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Right, It's like everything without
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: all the big plays though. Well, but but he has
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: made the big plays early on, is my point, right,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: And it just he's he's struggled. I look, the air
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: coverage has struggled for three straight weeks. I'd go back
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: to the Jets game with Zach Wilson. There's a reason
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: why Zach Wilson. But what coincided with the struggling of
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: the coverage a little bit, I just they stopped getting
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback. What's going on there? Well, that but
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: that's I think that's the biggest thing is that this
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: defense is driven through its pass rush, right, And I
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: think with a lot of these guys that they've faced
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, you know, I think
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Kirk had a great game under pressure. I you have
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: to give him some kudos for that. And I would
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: also just mention that these good NFL quarterbacks, if there's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: guys open downfield, the pressure doesn't affect them as much
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: as it affects the Zach Wilson or Sam Ellinger or
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: somebody like that. Right. So, if he's got an open
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: receiver downfield, but he's got Matthew Judon bearing down, a
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks, like Josh Allen, is still going
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: to make the throw. That's true. They've also faced better quarterbacks.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: They really have not covered well all years, and this
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: has been something that I have been seeing on all
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: twenty two. Jason I had a corner high on our
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: list in the draft because we just figured Ja Jackson's
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: going and right now I think they got a yeah.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: I think they got a couple of promising players in
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: the third and fourth round. I think I'd like to
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: say that even though Barnmore hasn't had a great year,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: I think they've missed him a lot, and just the
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: overall team rush together him eating blocks and all that stuff.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: I just he's quick off the ball and disruptive. He
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: hadn't been productive, but I think that that has coincided
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: with some of this drops. He was more productive than
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: he got credit for because I think a lot of
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: people chalk out pass rush production to sacks where and
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. Interior pressures doesn't work like that
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: unless you're like Aaron Donald. So their interior pressure right
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: now is basically Daniel Aquale, which is a big drop
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: off from Christian Barmore. So I think that one of
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: the things that I've been toying around with maybe them doing,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: you know, back in the day with you know, like
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: High Tower for example, used to rush over the interior
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: of the offensive line that used to stand him up
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: like in the A or the B gap and have
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: him rush as like a rush linebacker. I think I
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: would like to see them maybe try to do that
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: more with Judon and move him inside because they have
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: guys like, you know, like Anfredy Jennings for example. He
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: can set the edge right like he can just have
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: that you know, that gap integrity, rush lane integrity, just
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: you know, stay in the on the outside, keep the
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the pocket. He can do that, and I
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: think a lot of the time over the last couple
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: of weeks what's happened with Judon, especially against Josh Allen,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: is they're so worried about Josh Allen getting out of
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: the pocket that Udon's edge or Judon's edge pressure kind
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: of goes by the wayside because he's not it's not
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: that type of game, right, It's not a pin your
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: ears back off the edge type of game. So it's
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: kind of taken him out of the game almost just
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: by your own doing, you know, at that. But those
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: rules in that kind of situation less stringent for an
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: interior rusher though, you know, like like a guy like barmore.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: Would he have more free rein to break the pocket
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: and get up in there rather than the edge guys
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: who look, you cannot be past the quarterback. I would
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: think so because usually you have a second level behind
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: you on the inside. Right, So usually you have that linebacker,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: whether it's Mac Wilson spying or it's just you know,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: a zone layer, right, you know you're in zone and
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: you have that second layer behind the interior rushers on
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: the edge, it just gets so dangerous because there's nothing
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: there's no secondary force, right, Everything is just on that
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: edge defender to keep him in the pocket. But they
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: have not been a great coverage team. I think Jonathan
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: Jones is one of those guys that is good in
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: certain matchups, like when he goes up against Tyreek Hill.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: I actually think he's pretty good because it's just speed
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: on speed, right, it's just two fast guys guarding each other.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: But when he goes up against guys that can win
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: at the catch point down the field, Hopkins is just
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: too big. That's why I was That's why I asked
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: you the question. Mike and I already talked about it
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: on Monday. He's just too big, right, So I don't
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: know what they do, so I personally, you know, I'll
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: write about this later in the week. But once upon
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: a time, as we keep saying around here right now,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: they used to go with that strategy a lot of
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: the time where they would double the number one guy
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: with the second corner right and then they would have
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: you know, the number one corner take the second receiver
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: on an island. So in this instance, I'm assuming Hollywood
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: Brown's going to play. That's a great matchup for John,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: a better matchup for Jones. But how do they handle
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: Hopkins Because they used to do that with with Gilmore right,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: so I would used to have pretty good success against Hopkins.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: This is why I hope that Jalen Mills plays, because
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's You're better off doing this with Jalen
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: Mills than with Jack Jones, because Jack Jones just scares
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: the crap out of me right now against the guy
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: like Hopkins. But I would just I would either roll
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: the safety over the top or straight up double team
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins out of the game. And if they beat
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: you throwing a Hollywood Brown one on one against John Jones,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: or they're tight ends against Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Then you have to sort of live with that. But
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: what they did against Buffalo is basically play off coverage
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: zone and man off man and keep eyes in the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: backfield to maybe get a pick and pray that he
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: didn't beat you over the top. I mean, unfortunately, I
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: think we're at the mercy in this game defensively of
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Kyla Murray. Like, I think Kyler Murray is average as
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: a passer, and I think he has more than enough
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: weapons to really take advantage of the secondary. But Willie,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: you know, will he be willing to do it? If
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: he only is able to get Hopkins four or five catches?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: Will he be able to go to a J. Green
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: and Zach Ertz and Hollywood Brown? And who knows? My
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: favorite guy duced Greg Dortch. He's my favorite. He's been healthy.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: He missed the last game with a thumb injury. Yeah,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: if he's able to do that, I just don't see
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: I don't see them slow. I don't see him stop
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: them now, all right with Hopkins. I just wanted this
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: last point. Their offense has been bad all year Arizona.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: They haven't been very productive. When Hopkins and Murray both
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: plays happened four times. They average over twenty eight a game.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Can you get twenty eight? I don't think we can call. Well,
• 1:56:16
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