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Drive Thru News #37 - All hail Britannia! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to the drive through episode.
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  37.
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  This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  Now let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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  Brad, do you need a throat lozenge?
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  You sound a little off this month.
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  What's going on?
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  How about now, y'all?
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  Listeners, Brad is out on paternity leave, and guest hosting for the
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  drive thru this month is none other than Danny P from Danny P on Cars.
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  So we welcome you to the drive thru.
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  Thank you for filling in.
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  You have some big shoes to fill.
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  Size 14, to be exact.
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  You know what they say about big shoes?
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  Small hands?
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  Big socks.
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  Well, since you hail from the UK, as we discovered on your episode
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  of Brake Fix, and we wanted to pay tribute to all things British for
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  the first time ever, let's talk about British cars in this month's showcase.
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  It's hot off the presses.
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  A name we haven't talked about in a long time, Lotus, is in the news.
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  They just did a stellar reveal of a new vehicle that I'm
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  having a hard time to pronounce.
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  How do I say this?
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  EMEA?
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  EMEA?
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  Like Europe, the Middle East, and Asia?
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  What are we talking about here?
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  In typical Lotus tradition, all cars start with the letter E, but it does have an
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  official type designator, Lotus type 130, and it was revealed on September the 7th.
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  They keep talking about it's going to be a hyper GT rival to the
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  Porsche Taycan and the Tesla Model S.
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  Lotus had already hinted that they were going into the EV space, but is this
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  what we all imagined it was going to be?
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  Is that corner of our world sacred?
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  Is Colin rolling over in his grave seeing this?
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  First it was the SUV and now the Grand Tourer.
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  What's next?
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  But I'm confused.
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  It says this is going to be off the SUV's platform.
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  But it's a sedan?
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  How big is this SUV?
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  This is the first Lotus sedan since the Omega Carlton that they built in the
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  early 90s, if you remember that, which was sort of a box haul on steroids.
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  I'm not sure what to think about this.
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  As a Lotus fan myself, being a amateur Lotus historian, is
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  there really a place for it?
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  Does it really belong here?
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  Or is it because Lotus can't continue with the current Elise Exige model that they've
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  been following for the last 20 years?
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  Looks like trash.
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  How do you really feel?
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  I mean, the few renderings that are out here, the spy car that you see running
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  around the Nürburgring as they did some hot laps, only has two headlights
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  versus some of the other photographs.
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  So somebody took the spy photo with the camouflage and actually
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  rendered it in like a paint job and it looks like a Urus from the front.
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  If this car exists, but it means that they'll continue to make ICE engine manual
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  cars, would you feel more comfortable?
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  No, because it's still not a proper Lotus.
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  There was no lightness added to this in typical Lotus fashion.
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  This looks like it's going to be heavy and it's going to be big and goes
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  against everything that Lotus stands for.
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  And it needs to be a sports car.
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  It needs to be a sports coupe.
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  The Avisia that came out before this.
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  I wasn't convinced and I don't think they sold that many of them.
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  And then before that you had the Evora and I was like, that's kind of cool.
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  We're getting back into the Esprit size of car.
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  You got that V6 back there, all the things that the Elise and the Exige were missing,
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  so I was excited for them to continue that and say, well, maybe they're going
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  to build a competitor to the C8 Corvette, something a little along those lines,
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  but then to come to the table and say, well, we're going to build a model three
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  with a Lotus badge on it, I don't know.
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  In another report, Lotus has said that they are off to a stellar
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  and successful year in 2023.
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  That's a great report now that we're three quarters of the way through it.
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  So great.
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  You've got a company that is selling somewhere in the neighborhood
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  of 1, 500 to 2, 000 cars a year.
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  Is this new car that we're talking about the EMEA?
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  Are they hoping 2, 500 cars a year?
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  5, 000 cars a year?
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  Like how many more sales are they going to make?
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  Or is this going to be something detrimental to their stellar year
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  that they've had here in 2020?
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  They want to do 150, 000 cars.
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  I don't think Lotus has ever produced that many cars.
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  It would be interesting to see the numbers of cars sold versus cars delivered.
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  Because I've got a friend of mine who's got an Edition 1 of the new 2 door, and
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  it's been delayed for another six months.
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  I don't think it says in the details how many of these have
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  actually been delivered, but I can't imagine it's the same number.
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  I'm glad that Lotus has not been swept up in some sort of collapse, where
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  they're still trying to be out there, they're still trying to be relevant,
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  they're still trying to build cars.
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  The question becomes...
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  What does the future hold for this particular brand?
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  And I hold them in high regard, especially with consideration
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  to all the other British cars.
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  Not saying that any of the other ones like Aston and Jaguar are bad,
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  but Lotus has always been focused on motorsport and being a motorsport fan.
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  You're like, you want to see Lotus succeed.
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  You want to see them come up with something that's going to shake the tree.
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  And make Porsche scared or Corvette scared.
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  But what did Lotus come up with now?
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  What harebrained idea have they put into motion?
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  They're notorious for pushing the envelope on engineering.
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  The question is this new Ford or some of these other cars, are
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  they really pushing the envelope or is it just more of the same?
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  Yeah.
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  So in a recent article, it's been announced that Land Rover will
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  be bringing a baby defender into their range and all electric.
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  The first thing that I struggle with a little bit is where
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  in that range does it fit?
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  You have the big defender, you have the Vela, you have the three lander.
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  There are about five or six different models of Land Rover.
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  So where does this fit?
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  Like, will they drop one or two?
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  So is this to be like the Bronco and then the Bronco Sport?
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  Is that what they're trying to play off of?
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  The success that Ford has put forth with two different vehicles, which happened
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  to be, let's say, an F 150 in a Ford Escape at the end of the day, right?
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  Apparently it's a tad smaller than an X3 BMW.
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  So it's sort of like the old Disco?
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  Even smaller.
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  It's like a Q3 from Audi.
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  Wasn't the LR3 Discovery kind of like the smallest one of the bunch?
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  Are they going back to that?
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  Well, you've also got the Evoque, haven't you?
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  They still make the Beckham car?
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  Is that what it's known as over here?
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  They say she had a hand in designing it.
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  Was it the right or the left?
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  Maybe it was the convertible.
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  Remember they did a convertible Evoque.
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  They sold those for real?
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  But yeah, I'm struggling to see where it, if it's smaller than an X3, that
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  sounds like an evoke to me, because they've announced that everything's
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  going to be electric, haven't they?
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  By a certain time period.
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  Yeah.
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  You hear different numbers, 2025 through 2032.
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  There seems to be this span of when everybody should be fully electric, but
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  then you begin to wonder when alternative fuels come into play, synthetic fuels,
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  things like that, is there going to be a reversal on some of these mandates?
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  There have been companies pushing hard to meet at least the first wave in 2025.
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  So I don't know if Land Rover is sitting somewhere in the middle there.
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  Curious to see what happens.
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  I mean, the 2024 models are beginning to roll out this month.
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  That's why September is pretty crucial as we're talking about all these
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  new cars that are coming online.
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  Well, this will be a 2027 model, this baby Defender.
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  Back to your point, will there be a place for it?
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  Will there be a need for it three to four years from now?
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  Is somebody going to want.
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  That let's say mid sized CUV Land Rover four years from now.
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  I think for me that a Defender brand is better than an Evoque brand.
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  So maybe they drop the Evoque.
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  You get this all electric Bronco competitor that's maybe slightly
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  smaller, so maybe the two door Bronco.
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  Well, you know what they really need Dan is a ute.
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  Utes come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, right?
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  This next one blew me away.
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  In the UK, we have this term called chav.
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  It's a derogatory term, but it's basically similar to in Australia.
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  They have this term, which is a bogan.
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  And these are folks that are prime for a pickup type vehicle.
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  Maybe they're going to use their ill gotten gains from secondhand dodgy
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  things, but they have these pickups.
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  But someone in the UK has built a Bentley Continental pickup.
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  And this article just blew me away because it's not just a
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  cut, shut and leave it as it is.
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  They've decked it out with teak.
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  So it's a Bentley Continental in pickup form, so two doors, so almost
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  like your El Camino, but imagine you're El Camino for high society.
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  How do those two things go together?
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  El Camino and high society?
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  This is the alternative, right?
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  Would it be the red necklace won the lottery or what?
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  How long is the hair on the back of a well heeled British man who
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  buys this Bentley pickup truck?
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  Call it mullet edition.
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  Is mullet the same term used in the UK?
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  Or there's some other word.
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  Isn't this at the front party at the back?
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  This is akin to those Smith conversions that they do on like the Beatles and the
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  Jettas to make them into pickup trucks.
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  Like it has the same sort of look to it from the B pillar.
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  Like I don't understand this one iota of.
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  150, 000 will get you one.
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  Why?
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  What else would I buy for 150, 000?
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  It must have cost a lot more to build this thing than that.
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  Okay, Danny, let me ask you this.
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  Is there a shortage of pickup trucks in the UK?
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  Is that why they had to do this?
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  I don't think so.
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  Because, like, there's the Ranger Raptor you can get in the UK.
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  Ooh.
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  It's obviously slightly smaller.
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  The moral is, a fool and his money is easily parted.
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  All right.
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  Well, there is something that you guys do enjoy over there, which
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  is going on camping holidays.
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  If this Bentley Continental isn't your thing, what about a Ford Transit that's
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  been done up by one of the legendary names in camper vans, Westfalia?
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  I'd buy that.
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  Well, I'd ride in it.
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  This thing is awesome.
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  We've talked about other Ford Transit vans that have been highly
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  modified, especially for track use and running at the Nurburgring, but
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  just putting the word Westfalia.
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  After anything suddenly elevates it to where I think that Bentley wanted to go.
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  But this is cool.
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  And you could have two of those for one Bentley.
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  83, 000 U.
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  S.
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  That's actually not that bad.
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  And they're calling it the nugget, which we haven't seen Westfalia in
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  the United States for a long time.
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  Obviously, that went kind of the way of the dodo bird when Volkswagen.
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  Stopped partnering with them on the type three buses and things like that.
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  But there is a rumor that they are going to return to the U S and
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  potentially with these four transits, it might not be a UK only thing as
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  this hype beast article surmises.
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  So there's some additional evidence that says they might be returning to the U S.
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  So I'm really excited about that.
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  And 83 K for a converted camper van, as we will learn on a future
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  episode with a premier camper van builder out of Colorado, this
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  is actually a really good deal.
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  Yeah, they can't do that for that price.
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  There's rumors that VW are going to bring a camper version of the ID buzz.
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  So would you rather have a VW camper van?
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  Is it a Westie or is it Volkswagen's creation?
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  Yeah.
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  Do you think the brand holds that much kudos?
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  I do, because if you tried to convert your own T2 or T3 camper van or get
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  somebody else to do it, there were other companies or even the companies that
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  would take the Euro vans like Riata and make them into RVs and things like that.
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  The Westies still hold their value.
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  You go to find one now, especially a manual transmission Wasserboxer
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  with a synchro and a Westie package.
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  I mean that it's like a white fly.
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  Okay.
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  And you know where that white fly is good luck.
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  But if they were to bring something like that in the ID buzz package
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  as a Westie, something special.
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  Yeah.
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  And if it was competitive price wise to this, it'd probably be
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  worth every penny of 83 grand.
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  There seems to be a lot of these concepts, but no one's actually
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  bringing the things to market yet.
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  And that's the frustrating thing.
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  And unfortunately, places like the UK get this stuff first
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  or we don't get it at all.
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  That's the other fallout, right?
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  There's other vehicles that we've fantasized over for years.
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  That it's just like, seriously, I will give you a deposit right
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  now, if I can get one of these, maybe we're not deserving enough.
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  Well, you know what else is back, speaking of off roaders, speaking of
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  camping, utes and things like that?
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  Do you guys remember when MINI made the Countryman, which was also
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  rebadged as the BMW X1 for a while?
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  Maybe.
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  I drove one the other day.
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  But it's been off the market for a while, and now the Countryman is back with the
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  equivalent of 300 horsepower, which it needs desperately, in the form of an EV.
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  And Tanya, having driven a Countryman S all four many times, what do you think
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  about this new iteration, the third generation of the Mini Countryman?
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  It's like anything else.
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  I mean, why not at this point?
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  What do you think of that front grill?
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  I like the look of the original, the Gen 1 Countryman with it's kind of like, it
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  looked like a little dog, you know, a little puppy and you wanted to pet it.
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  This is really square.
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  Compared to what a mini should look like.
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  I think the headlights are throwing it off because the headlights
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  aren't trapezoidal originally.
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  That interior is wild though.
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  They retained the center screen.
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  It's all digital.
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  No more of that BMW head unit.
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  Makes sense given how they're outfitted.
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  With that gigantic speedometer off to the center, and then you have the little
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  bitty thing over the steering wheel.
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  They might as well, because it keeps the form factor there.
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  But one thing that gets on my nerves, and it's not even the
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  headlights, it's whatever's going on right around the C pillar.
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  A door handle?
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  I don't know.
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  No, because there's a normal door handle on the door.
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  A window handle?
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  I don't know.
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  Bizarre.
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  That is strange.
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  What purpose could that have?
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  I don't understand it because it almost looks like an afterthought.
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  Maybe it's some sort of accessory piece, but then it also makes it look
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  very Lego by adding just that funky component that matches the roof.
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  Would look like a door handle that cuts into the glass.
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  I'm already not a big fan of the way SUVs and CUVs have cut pennant glass between
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  the C and D pillars that swings upward and goes against the belt line and the
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  body line of the vehicles themselves.
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  I just don't get it, but this is.
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  They actually accentuate it in the gray and red version.
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  The roof is red, the mirrors are red, and that piece is red.
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  Well, we can move a little bit more back into the high life and
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  get out our tea set yet again.
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  And Jaguar is in the news, coming to the table with their next EV.
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  Dan, you're secretly a Jag man, aren't you?
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  Well, I do like a good Jaguar.
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  I'm not sure what this Jaguar is.
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  Maybe it's a slightly different car.
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  But they're really going for it, aren't they?
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  They've got Bentley and others in their sights, and they're going
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  to develop this XJ successor.
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  From a design perspective, it looks sleek, it looks great,
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  but British cars and electrics?
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  Who knows?
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  Lucas, Prince of Darkness!
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  It's not the number one thing we're famous for, is it?
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  Which is troubling, for sure, but I have to agree with you.
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  If this is a reimagination of the classic XJS...
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  That was around since the 70s through the 80s into the 90s and
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  then they redesigned it later.
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  I like it.
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  I see where they're going.
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  It has some design language of JAGs that have come before it, not just the XJS.
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  Obviously it's missing the flying buttresses that the XJS
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  has that it's known for, right?
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  Those B pillars that they used.
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  What I'm sort of tired of and even looking at this picture is you can tell this
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  is Either CGI AI generated or rendered.
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  I want to see the model.
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  I want to see the concept car built in steel over a wood buck, even if it
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  doesn't have an engine or whatever, they would lay out these cars at
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  places like Geneva and Frankfurt.
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  So you could really see it.
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  You can tell this is not a photograph by a professional photographer.
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  It looks like it was generated by chat GPT or one of its.
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  Derivatives.
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  So I'm glad they're able to crank out these ideas and get them to the masses
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  quickly so they can get a reaction through social media and through Reddit
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  and through other places like that.
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  But it's just, I want to see them take the time to build it
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  because it makes it more real.
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  It makes it a possibility that it's something we could see on a
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  dealership floor in years to come.
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  And this car is going to launch in 2025.
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  So we're not far away with this one.
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  There's also a wagon version, according to the renderings that are in this
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  article, which gets me even more excited.
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  I won't be sold here.
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  Exactly.
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  It's lines are completely off of the other vehicle.
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  So maybe this is two separate models.
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  It does hint at.
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  A Jag trio coming out, meaning three cars, although they're only showing two
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  renderings in this particular article.
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  So I'm really interested to see what that third car might be.
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  Maybe it's another SUV, something to replace the E pace or the F pace, build
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  them a little bit bigger than they have been, because they are all in the smaller
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  side, I believe sharing a similar platform to the evoke and some of the Land Rovers
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  back before they split them all up.
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  What do you guys think about the fact that Jaguar is no longer
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  called Jaguar and they've dropped the name Jaguar and it's now.
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  JLR, I didn't know that it's happened quite recently.
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  I listened to the collecting cars podcast So this is chris harris and
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  friends and they are up in uproar about this Jlr standing for jaguar land
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  rover, but the brand will be jlr moving forward not jaguar No, that's dumb.
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  So one of the spokespeople from jaguar have said that the brand
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  doesn't carry any recognition anymore.
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  Isn't that like career suicide?
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  That is a shame, and we'll probably still pronounce it wrong, because
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  if you look at it, it's Jailor.
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  That's that new brand, Jailor.
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  I would rather see Jaguar and Rover, to be honest, like drop the land or the
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  range, and just consolidate it down to Jaguar and Rover, and go from there.
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  Yeah, Jover, Jover.
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  The thing is, even the leaping Jaguar logo itself is an icon.
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  It's, you don't even have to know, you just see it.
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  You're like, I know what that is right off the bat.
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  Now, Rover, Land Rover, Range Rover, a little different, you know, the
• 17:59
  little oval or the Rover Burgundy diamond that they have Jag is Jag.
• 18:04
  It will always be Jag.
• 18:05
  And even when you look at this car.
• 18:06
  Put another badge on you go.
• 18:08
  It looks like a jag.
• 18:09
  It's sort of silly.
• 18:10
  I don't know that I'm up in arms in the same way that Chris
• 18:13
  Harrison friends are, but I don't like the idea of them rebranding.
• 18:16
  I think I'm right in saying the third most successful brand at Lamont.
• 18:21
  I believe that is correct.
• 18:22
  Yeah.
• 18:22
  And they're going to do away with the brand.
• 18:24
  It's a sad, sad day.
• 18:25
  It really is different times.
• 18:27
  Well, you know what else?
• 18:28
  is sort of sad, but not at the same time.
• 18:31
  There's another brand we sometimes forget about because we pay more attention
• 18:34
  to them when a new movie comes out and someone like Daniel Craig is driving
• 18:38
  around in the latest version that will then salivate over for the next
• 18:42
  couple of years because only a select few can actually attain these cars.
• 18:46
  And that's the new Aston Martin DB series of vehicles.
• 18:50
  And they just announced.
• 18:51
  The new DB12.
• 18:53
  And my gut reaction was before looking at the specs of the vehicle,
• 18:56
  I was like, didn't Clarkson say that Aston was done with 12 cylinders?
• 18:59
  Not thinking about the version number.
• 19:02
  I was just thinking 12 denotes a V12, a twin turbocharged four liter
• 19:07
  V8 borrowed from something else.
• 19:09
  And the car is really big, or am I looking at this wrong?
• 19:13
  Looks long.
• 19:13
  It was interesting.
• 19:14
  I've seen a couple of the videos.
• 19:16
  What Aston Martin did is they flew out a number of influencers
• 19:19
  and journalists to Monaco.
• 19:20
  Put them up in a great hotel, gave them the experience of driving this new car.
• 19:24
  And all the reviews have been great.
• 19:26
  Now, I don't think it's anything to do with the fact they were in Monaco
• 19:28
  being wined and dined, but the reviews are that everything that DB11 was
• 19:32
  lacking in, the DB12 now makes up for.
• 19:35
  So it's a better handling car.
• 19:36
  They've completely changed the interior and made it non Mercedes like.
• 19:41
  And everyone is raving about this car.
• 19:43
  It almost feels like Aston Martin are kind of cresting to a high right now.
• 19:46
  But the problem is the design cues, especially the front end remind me of
• 19:50
  the Ferrari 599 or like a Fioriano or one of those, and because they stretch
• 19:56
  the wheelbase and then to your point, Mercedes now being the parent company
• 20:00
  of Aston Martin, which a lot of people might not know, just like we were
• 20:03
  talking about JLR and that whole merger.
• 20:05
  It still SLS GTS.
• 20:09
  When you look at it at the right angle, you're like, it still looks
• 20:12
  like a Benz in a different dress.
• 20:14
  You know what I'm saying?
• 20:15
  Speaking of looking like other cars, if you go to the comment section, one
• 20:19
  person would say it looks like a Hyundai.
• 20:22
  Oh, those headlights look like a BRZ, like they stole them right off the shelf.
• 20:27
  And somebody else would say it looks already five years old.
• 20:31
  I feel offended on behalf of Aston Martin right now.
• 20:34
  I think it is a stunningly beautiful car, and it's matched not only by the outside,
• 20:39
  but look at that interior as well.
• 20:40
  You're saying it's a stunningly beautiful car as compared to what's
• 20:43
  available today or compared to previous DBs like a DB9 or a DB9R or any
• 20:49
  of those which were Gorgeous cars.
• 20:51
  I think the really early Aston's, I would agree with you, but a DB nine
• 20:54
  and this, they're both beautiful cars.
• 20:56
  He'd be seven as well.
• 20:58
  It's such a good looking car.
• 20:58
  Apart from all the Ford switch gear.
• 21:00
  Oh yeah.
• 21:02
  You have Mondeo, uh, windows window button.
• 21:06
  There's something to be said about all these Mondeo parts
• 21:08
  that get used in a lot of cars.
• 21:10
  I think those are the only reliable components sometimes.
• 21:13
  Quite probably, quite probably.
• 21:15
  If you look at that interior, I think you've got to commend Aston
• 21:17
  Martin for doing something different.
• 21:19
  It's a combination of buttons and screen, which is kind of what a
• 21:22
  lot of people want these days.
• 21:23
  As I said, I might be in the minority, but I think it's a sexy, sexy car.
• 21:27
  There aren't many ugly Aston's.
• 21:29
  This is not one of them.
• 21:31
  Is it as pretty as some of its predecessors?
• 21:34
  We could argue about that, but no, it is not an ugly car by
• 21:36
  any stretch of the imagination.
• 21:37
  Now, if I'm going to spend the money and I have to choose between the new Mercedes.
• 21:42
  SLS gt3 gts gtr replacement that's coming out this year, which we'll
• 21:47
  talk about here in a little bit.
• 21:48
  It's a hard choice I think i'm going to lean towards the bens just
• 21:52
  because I love that new grill I love how aggressive it looks even the
• 21:56
  previous model of the gts and gtr.
• 21:58
  They're just Earthshakers, like every AMG that's come out.
• 22:02
  And I don't know that the DB12 does it for me in that same way.
• 22:06
  I think the trick with all the recent Aston Martins is you don't buy one new.
• 22:10
  You wait two or three years and you pick up what is potentially a
• 22:13
  bargain compared to what it was new.
• 22:14
  Well, speaking of bargains, is there ever an end to barn finds?
• 22:18
  How many barns are there in England?
• 22:20
  Then you've got these warehouses in Japan full of cars that are forgotten and
• 22:24
  that, but then even last year, we found a building full of vehicles in the UK.
• 22:28
  Why, where, when, how has this lost the time?
• 22:32
  And what exactly is this?
• 22:33
  Is this an X19?
• 22:34
  We've got a lot of farms in the UK.
• 22:36
  Where was this found?
• 22:37
  In an abandoned mansion.
• 22:39
  It looks like it's an AC.
• 22:40
  It looks like it.
• 22:41
  This is one I've never heard of before.
• 22:43
  The AC 3000ME, which is apparently a late seventies concept car from
• 22:49
  the same manufacturer that brought us the legendary AC Cobra, along
• 22:53
  with a lot of other vehicles.
• 22:54
  It looks like a triumph to me.
• 22:56
  It has some TR7 lines to it as well.
• 22:59
  It's powered by a three liter Ford Essex V6.
• 23:02
  That's not earth shattering by today's standards, but for 19.
• 23:07
  73 when this was shown off for the first time at the London Motor Show.
• 23:10
  That's a big power plant for a small car.
• 23:12
  Do they turn it on?
• 23:13
  There's a video of it, which you can watch in the article itself, but it
• 23:17
  looks like they're just uncovering it.
• 23:18
  I can't imagine it would run.
• 23:20
  It's got to be dead, the battery and no fuel in it, or...
• 23:22
  gross fuel.
• 23:23
  I mean if it ever ran to begin with, right?
• 23:25
  I mean it's a 35 minute video of them going through the mansion, where
• 23:29
  they found the car, uncovering the car, going in it, looking at it.
• 23:32
  Yeah, you can just fast forward to the 30 minute mark, that's
• 23:35
  where they find the car.
• 23:36
  Pretty much.
• 23:36
  Otherwise it looks like something out of the Blair Witch Project.
• 23:39
  It does look like a kit car.
• 23:40
  Never ending supply of barn find cars, that's for sure.
• 23:47
  Bradford?
• 23:48
  Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait.
• 23:50
  What was that?
• 23:51
  Where's Bradford Novak?
• 23:53
  Bradford?
• 23:55
  Who's this?
• 23:56
  Who's calling?
• 23:56
  Who's yelling?
• 23:58
  This is Mark Hewitt and I was promised an apology.
• 24:01
  I've been waiting here since 3pm.
• 24:03
  Oh.
• 24:04
  Oh, Brad, you're in trouble.
• 24:06
  You're in so much trouble, dude.
• 24:09
  Where is he?
• 24:10
  He is on paternity leave, Mark.
• 24:12
  Obviously, you guys cannot occupy the same space, time, relativity,
• 24:16
  any of this cosmic balance.
• 24:17
  You can't be in the same place at the same time.
• 24:19
  So here you are.
• 24:20
  Well, guess what, Brad?
• 24:21
  I'm the car chief now.
• 24:24
  I'm gonna steal your script and I'm gonna do the lost and found historical,
• 24:28
  of which there are notes that I don't have to know anything about.
• 24:30
  Well, you're a s Step above Brad, aren't you?
• 24:33
  Well, Mark, now that you're here to fill in Brad's size 14 slippers,
• 24:37
  what is in Lost and Found this month?
• 24:40
  Well, we're going to start with the fastest selling cars of 2023.
• 24:44
  These models still move fast.
• 24:46
  Is not my pun.
• 24:48
  I was wondering, they're the fastest selling cars, meaning zero to 60 times.
• 24:52
  So what is on this list of fastest selling cars?
• 24:54
  Well, there's some classics.
• 24:55
  You got Toyota Corolla.
• 24:57
  That's a winner.
• 24:57
  Toyota Sienna.
• 24:58
  BMW X1.
• 25:00
  I assume that followed like a W9, right?
• 25:02
  That is the Mini Cooper Countryman equivalent.
• 25:05
  There's a Subaru.
• 25:07
  Kia.
• 25:08
  Forte.
• 25:09
  Fort?
• 25:09
  There's no accent.
• 25:10
  Is it Forte?
• 25:11
  It's Forte, yes.
• 25:12
  Forte, great.
• 25:13
  Okay.
• 25:13
  A Lexus.
• 25:14
  And there's some numbers.
• 25:15
  GMC, I think GMC only makes the big trucks, right?
• 25:18
  They don't make like a wee GMC.
• 25:20
  There's not like a GMC nugget.
• 25:21
  No, not anymore.
• 25:22
  Cool.
• 25:23
  Toyota Highlander.
• 25:24
  And it's Grande, a Land Rover, Range Rover.
• 25:27
  It does a lot of roving.
• 25:28
  Really, if you have roving needs, that's what you get.
• 25:31
  That's why it's 10 days on the market that people need to rove.
• 25:33
  And then the big winner, 9.
• 25:35
  2 days on the market.
• 25:37
  So this is hot takes.
• 25:39
  Is your Toyota grand Highlander hybrid, which is basically two cars.
• 25:44
  You buy the one car, but you get two engines out of it.
• 25:47
  So that's a deal.
• 25:48
  That sounds like you ordered a drink at Starbucks.
• 25:50
  I'd like a sugar free Venti vanilla Frappuccino.
• 25:54
  Yep.
• 25:54
  Yep.
• 25:55
  I'm going to turn the page on the script here.
• 25:56
  These are the most overpriced new cars based on MSRP.
• 26:01
  I'm just going to go to my favorite one here.
• 26:03
  Trucks.
• 26:04
  Trucks are overpriced.
• 26:05
  You don't say Mark.
• 26:07
  I do say I can go into the details.
• 26:09
  I was trying to find if there's 1 that matches the last of it that
• 26:12
  it's overpriced until selling.
• 26:14
  No, it's not that exciting.
• 26:15
  But trucks is the number 1 here and there's like, different
• 26:18
  kinds of trucks inside.
• 26:19
  Wrangler, Jeep Wrangler, that's a kind of truck, really.
• 26:22
  Bronco, that's a truck.
• 26:23
  And then there's some other cars.
• 26:24
  Hardy Davidson, that's a motorcycle.
• 26:26
  Mm hmm.
• 26:27
  I don't know why that's on the list, but that is also overpriced.
• 26:31
  Mazzarotti, I think that kind of goes without saying.
• 26:33
  I don't know about Mazzarotti.
• 26:34
  That's like, reasonable.
• 26:35
  Yeah, there's a lot of cars that are way too expensive, y'all.
• 26:38
  I think my favorite on this list is the Honda Civic, aka the Accord.
• 26:43
  Also known as...
• 26:45
  The Integra.
• 26:46
  I don't understand why the Civic would be on this list, maybe because
• 26:50
  of the vertical that it sits in?
• 26:52
  The Type R Civic is currently fetching at least 15 to 20 grand over list.
• 26:57
  I like how they're considered a small entry level car, like the Civic is
• 27:01
  no longer a small entry level car.
• 27:04
  Not at all.
• 27:04
  And I think that's what's driving, it's still considered a small entry level.
• 27:08
  How much is it this door?
• 27:09
  28, 000 Canadian apparently.
• 27:14
  That's like, really expensive.
• 27:16
  What about for a full size sedan?
• 27:18
  Is that expensive?
• 27:19
  I want to know then what the price of a new Jetta is.
• 27:21
  What fell off of this list?
• 27:23
  And how far off the margin did you have to be?
• 27:26
  Let's say the Jetta clocks in just under the price of the Honda, so it didn't
• 27:29
  make the list, even though they're both considered small economy sedans.
• 27:33
  And the Jetta's huge now.
• 27:34
  I mean, I guess if you take the, uh, conversion rate, depending on
• 27:37
  when this was written, that Civic is actually only 20 grand here in the U.
• 27:41
  S.
• 27:41
  So that's not terrible then.
• 27:42
  But it's 28, 000 in Canada.
• 27:44
  Poor Canadians.
• 27:46
  Meanwhile, for sale on this list, Danny P, you've got something to share.
• 27:50
  One that caught my eye, the price of rally cars seems to be going up a lot.
• 27:54
  So these classic cars that raced in the 80s, 90s.
• 27:57
  But what I found was in 1985, Paris Dakar Rally Opel Manta.
• 28:02
  And this car auctioned for 33, 000 euros.
• 28:05
  But talk about trying to get into a rally car at a respectable price versus
• 28:10
  your Integrales or your Peugeot 205.
• 28:13
  It's got everything you need.
• 28:14
  It's got the right spotlight, what we would call a cow catcher on the
• 28:17
  front, which is a big metal guard.
• 28:19
  But this thing was used in the Paris Dakar Rally, obviously an intense rally.
• 28:24
  Across the deserts of Africa.
• 28:25
  And you know, what's funny about Opal, they didn't sell a ton of them
• 28:28
  in the United States over the years.
• 28:30
  And there was all this talk about them coming back and if it's going to be an
• 28:33
  EV and then they got absorbed into the whole GM Vauxhall situation and all that.
• 28:38
  Opals have always been really cool and they've been really good and they've been
• 28:42
  different sort of German, but not, but yes, and Walter World drove Opal Mantas.
• 28:48
  In group A and B rally.
• 28:50
  So why not?
• 28:52
  These cars are cool.
• 28:53
  I've talked about it before in this show, my grandparents owned an Opel Manta.
• 28:56
  And one of its key features was always, they came with a flat black hood.
• 28:58
  That's how they sold in the United States, regardless of the color you bought it in.
• 29:01
  But I think these cars are neat.
• 29:02
  I think they're underappreciated and they're probably a good bargain.
• 29:05
  Even if you don't buy a full on rally car, like this one, looking for an
• 29:09
  Opel Manta or looking for an Opel Kadett, like a GTE and some of the
• 29:13
  other ones that are like the hot.
• 29:15
  Older Opals from the seventies and eighties.
• 29:17
  I think they're a neat car to go after, especially from a, what
• 29:20
  should I buy type of perspective.
• 29:22
  So this is actually a really great find, Danny, and I'm glad you brought it up.
• 29:25
  Very different.
• 29:26
  There's a commercial in the article as well.
• 29:28
  And it shows an individual called Jimmy McCray is wearing Rothman's livery.
• 29:33
  He's stood next to a Opal Manta, but the big thing obviously is Jimmy was
• 29:37
  a great rally driver in his own right, but also the father of Colin McCray.
• 29:41
  I like that advertisement because it says.
• 29:43
  By choice, he drives an Opel Manta.
• 29:46
  They're so backwards, but it's nice.
• 29:50
  First place, first choice.
• 29:52
  And the one they're showing in that ad is actually a later generation
• 29:56
  Opel Manta too, which looked much more like the Chevy Cavalier Z24 that
• 30:01
  we had here in the United States.
• 30:02
  The earlier Opel Mantas, like the rally car that's for sale, I
• 30:06
  think are the more desirable ones.
• 30:08
  This is okay.
• 30:09
  Neat in its own right, but it's sort of like the third gen Ford Capri.
• 30:13
  It was cool until you came out with that one.
• 30:15
  And I think this is still true.
• 30:17
  The Manta at this point, looking at this 1981, 82 ad.
• 30:22
  Mark, what else is in lost and found?
• 30:24
  Looks like there might be some other things here.
• 30:26
  I have an article about catchwords and automotive marketing because it
• 30:31
  used to be good and now they're bad.
• 30:32
  That's what it says.
• 30:33
  Yes.
• 30:34
  So for Senator Henny's.
• 30:36
  Which we hate, or we like.
• 30:37
  Do we like them?
• 30:38
  What they were trying to do is capitalize on, is it got a Hemi?
• 30:41
  Which is traditionally reserved for the big Dodge V8s.
• 30:46
  Four cylinder Hemi is sort of like, eh, not so much.
• 30:49
  Yeah, we hate those guys.
• 30:50
  Ford Mustang Cobra, it's really cute actually.
• 30:54
  So that's another one that got overused in a lot of cars, especially the Mustang
• 30:58
  two, when they came out with the Mustang two Cobra and then the King Cobra.
• 31:03
  And we're like, all right, guys, that's a Pinto.
• 31:05
  It doesn't matter what you call it.
• 31:07
  It's still a Mustang two, which is unfortunately one of the least
• 31:11
  desirable generations of the Mustang.
• 31:12
  But now.
• 31:13
  Thanks to people getting more interested in the Malays period.
• 31:16
  Those cars are actually a good bargain.
• 31:18
  People are looking into them.
• 31:19
  I've seen some really interesting wide body kits, re imaginations of
• 31:24
  the Mustang too, maybe they'll live up to that Cobra badge eventually.
• 31:28
  I was watching a video today of the new Mustang.
• 31:31
  And the reason I bring it up is the new Mustang has a lot of screens.
• 31:34
  instead of buttons etc.
• 31:36
  But it has this funky option where you can press a button and select the
• 31:39
  screen to look like a Mustang Cobra.
• 31:42
  So the dials are from the iconic Mustang Cobra.
• 31:45
  So talk about Ford actually bringing some innovation and fun to their cars.
• 31:49
  You can be driving the latest Mustang.
• 31:51
  But it could look and feel like the Cobra.
• 31:54
  The Ozdakota Little Red Express, and is also super cute.
• 31:59
  I don't see this one as a misnomer so much as the Little Red Express was a
• 32:03
  special build that Dodge had put together.
• 32:06
  I think for those of us in the collector car space, We'd love to have an
• 32:09
  original, untarnished Little Red Express.
• 32:12
  That was supposed to be the fastest truck on the market at the time.
• 32:16
  I mean, obviously that was superseded by things like the Cyclone and the
• 32:19
  Typhoon and whatnot, but the Little Red Express is what started it all off.
• 32:23
  So I don't see this as a mediocre attempt in the present.
• 32:27
  I think this is something that is highly collectible in today's market.
• 32:30
  Pontiac Grand Prix Richard Petty Edition.
• 32:33
  Richard Petty, is he a singer?
• 32:35
  Where's your driver?
• 32:37
  Tom Petty.
• 32:38
  Tom Petty's a singer, right?
• 32:39
  No, not the same Petty.
• 32:41
  This is STP number 43, Richard Petty.
• 32:44
  NASCAR legend.
• 32:45
  Still with us, as a matter of fact.
• 32:47
  But yeah, a lot of these Pontiacs, during the late 80s, early 90s, A
• 32:52
  lot of badge engineering, a lot of really kind of questionable marketing.
• 32:56
  So I'll give them this one.
• 32:57
  Do they only turn left?
• 32:59
  They turn both ways, but they turned left really, really well.
• 33:01
  Let's see the Dodge Charger Daytona.
• 33:04
  Yeah.
• 33:05
  Yeah.
• 33:06
  Yeah.
• 33:07
  Especially the 06 to 09, those first gen re imagined retro chargers.
• 33:12
  They are not as cool as the current Charger, especially when you
• 33:16
  leave the yellow stickers on from the post inspection stuff at the
• 33:19
  dealership like everybody does.
• 33:21
  These new Chargers, built on a Paleozoic era Mercedes chassis that
• 33:26
  was shared with the Chrysler 300, they were still trying to find their way.
• 33:30
  They were trying to figure things out.
• 33:31
  The Daytona badging that they put on it was just...
• 33:34
  Stickers and a spoiler, which I like that spoiler.
• 33:36
  I have reasons to like that spoiler, but I'll save that for another episode.
• 33:40
  We got the old mobile four, four, two, the 91 looks cool.
• 33:45
  Yeah, no, no, no.
• 33:47
  Four, four, two stood for four on the floor, four barrel.
• 33:51
  Two exhausts of which the 90 to 91 Oldsmobile had none of those things.
• 33:55
  It was front wheel drive, single exhaust.
• 33:58
  It was an automatic.
• 34:00
  Oh, no.
• 34:01
  So the Dodge Ram Daytona, which I can get that one because Daytona is a racetrack
• 34:05
  and you don't Race and Dodge Ram, right?
• 34:08
  But it's the same as the Charger Daytona because of the original Charger Daytona.
• 34:12
  It has that big wing in the back and they made it look like those
• 34:15
  road runners and the whatnot.
• 34:17
  So I get it again.
• 34:18
  This is just a styling package and it's a static thing.
• 34:21
  I can't fault.
• 34:22
  Dodge for this because they also built the Viper truck.
• 34:25
  It had the same livery as the Viper GTS coupe at that time.
• 34:28
  It was a Dodge thing.
• 34:29
  We all appreciated it.
• 34:31
  I don't see it as bad as some of these other ones.
• 34:33
  Pontiac, Le Mans.
• 34:35
  I've heard you say that one because you were there recently.
• 34:37
  Yes.
• 34:38
  This is just terrible.
• 34:40
  It's a Vauxhall Astra with a Pontiac badge on it.
• 34:43
  I'm almost throwing up in my mouth right now.
• 34:46
  It has nothing to do with its predecessor.
• 34:49
  Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS.
• 34:52
  This is in line with some of Tanya's favorite cars, like the Impala.
• 34:56
  And these are terrible.
• 34:58
  We all laugh at these every time you see one still running around.
• 35:01
  Great for the people that bought them.
• 35:03
  They will become a collector's item in the sense that they were low
• 35:06
  volume, not desirable now, but maybe in the future, there'll be these
• 35:11
  malaise nineties, two thousands cars.
• 35:14
  So something to keep an eye on for the future.
• 35:16
  But for me, I'll pass.
• 35:17
  That's not a truck.
• 35:18
  Is it the Monte Carlo SS?
• 35:21
  Yeah, it's not like the guy from Bentley's had that before he had the Bentley.
• 35:25
  No.
• 35:25
  No, it's just a really big boot.
• 35:27
  And I see what you're saying about that.
• 35:29
  It sort of looks like it could be a ute.
• 35:31
  Almost like the Holden Monaro ute that they had, which is the GTO
• 35:36
  where they cut the back off of it.
• 35:37
  Same kind of body styling, I can see that there.
• 35:40
  This might have been better as an El Camino, actually.
• 35:42
  Here we go.
• 35:43
  Around El Camino.
• 35:44
  Ha ha ha.
• 35:45
  Meanwhile.
• 35:46
  Yeah, I was thinking, I saw this on Bring a Trailer.
• 35:48
  If you're feeling really brave, you can go to Bonneville and try
• 35:51
  and break land speed records.
• 35:53
  And this is the perfect car to do that.
• 35:55
  Called the Land Speed Streamer.
• 35:56
  Comes with its own trailer.
• 35:58
  It's basically a nose, followed by a little cockpit.
• 36:01
  And a big engine.
• 36:02
  The current bid on this car, 85, 000.
• 36:06
  That's about what it costs to fill the tank.
• 36:07
  I think if you're buying this, you're compensating for something else.
• 36:10
  You're right.
• 36:11
  It's in the right shape.
• 36:12
  It would be unreal to drive something like this.
• 36:14
  Where are you driving this?
• 36:16
  Who is buying this?
• 36:17
  No one's buying this to drive.
• 36:18
  They're buying it.
• 36:19
  Because they're rich and they're going to put it like in their garage.
• 36:22
  They bought one of these on Car Masters in season four, and they turned
• 36:25
  it into some hokey Jetsons mobile.
• 36:28
  You remember that?
• 36:28
  This thing is 157, 000 feet long.
• 36:32
  Where are you turning this thing?
• 36:33
  You're taking it to Bonneville and you're doing 300 miles an hour.
• 36:37
  Okay.
• 36:38
  It has 178 pictures in the Bring a Trailer gallery.
• 36:41
  How can you take so many pictures of something that looks like a pencil?
• 36:44
  Because it's 175, 000 feet long.
• 36:46
  So you got to take a picture every like four feet.
• 36:49
  And get like a section and then you got to do the other side.
• 36:51
  Okay.
• 36:52
  I showed that there's no dents in it.
• 36:53
  It comes with a parachute.
• 36:54
  You can buy those on JEGS and Summit Racing, 50 bucks.
• 36:58
  Mark, I know you didn't diligently scour cars.
• 37:02
  com and other resources to find remaining HHRs.
• 37:06
  Dodge Darts or 1980s Cadillac Broughams that are still for sale at Gray Chevrolet.
• 37:11
  But I do appreciate you stopping by and filling in for Brad and giving
• 37:14
  us some insight into Lost and Found.
• 37:16
  Well, Brad, consider yourself on notice.
• 37:19
  I hope your baby turned out okay.
• 37:22
  We take a break here as Eric dies.
• 37:25
  Please mind the gap between the train and the platform.
• 37:30
  And on that bomb Phil.
• 37:44
  We turn to Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche news, where the name
• 37:48
  Roof has resurfaced yet again.
• 37:50
  Who doesn't love a roof?
• 37:51
  Eric, presumably you must have seen them at Car Week.
• 37:54
  I would have liked to have seen more.
• 37:56
  There weren't as many as I thought.
• 37:58
  I was expecting to see maybe a CTR2, a BTR, a Yellowbird, something.
• 38:03
  No, there weren't as many as I would have imagined.
• 38:05
  There were a bunch of 911s with roof wheels on them or some other components,
• 38:09
  but not fully blown roof cars.
• 38:11
  So at the jet center at Monterrey on Wednesday night of car
• 38:14
  week, they launched a new car.
• 38:17
  So this is the Carrera Turbo.
• 38:19
  Roof 3 Evo and it's their most powerful car to date.
• 38:23
  Is it a 911 or is it a Boxster or a Cayman?
• 38:26
  The nearest hereditary line you could draw would be a 911.
• 38:30
  Are you sure?
• 38:31
  Yep.
• 38:31
  The engine's not facing the wrong way.
• 38:33
  True.
• 38:34
  Now the interior is Cayman.
• 38:35
  The front of it is 997 GT3 RS.
• 38:38
  That I can see.
• 38:39
  And the rear fenders look like the Carrera GT, which is deceiving.
• 38:44
  And then when you get to the back, it looks like a Noble.
• 38:47
  Since, you know, our theme this month is British cars, tell me
• 38:49
  that isn't the back of an M12.
• 38:51
  Are you saying that they've stolen their headlights from Ford as well then?
• 38:57
  There's probably some Mondeo parts in this.
• 39:00
  There we go.
• 39:00
  That rear clamshell does not look German at all.
• 39:04
  It does look more British.
• 39:05
  It reminds me of the Noble quite a bit, especially that spoiler they put on it.
• 39:09
  The canards, the diffuser, all of it looks out of place because
• 39:13
  of the sharp cut of the glass.
• 39:15
  The profile still sort of looks like a Cayman to me.
• 39:19
  And that's why I'm like, is this really a 911?
• 39:21
  Now I know roof is now in the business of making their own chassis.
• 39:24
  They're not harvesting cars and doing things like they used
• 39:26
  to, you know, 20, 30 years ago.
• 39:28
  And like some other re imaginations of Porsches are happening right now.
• 39:32
  So this is interesting.
• 39:33
  I'd love to know what this does around the ring.
• 39:36
  For sure, they've gone with a, an automatic gearbox on this car.
• 39:40
  And reef is pretty famous for having manuals, isn't it?
• 39:42
  And most of the cars they do, I guess with 800 horsepower,
• 39:44
  you need to control it somehow.
• 39:46
  The other question is, is it really as cool as some of its predecessors?
• 39:50
  Something like the yellow bird or the original BTR or any of those cars?
• 39:54
  Is this as cool as.
• 39:56
  Some of the earlier roofs is anything as cool as a yellow bird.
• 39:59
  The answer is no 29 yellow birds They just came out of nowhere, didn't they
• 40:03
  and they were doing that merburg ring lap Like no one really knew about them back
• 40:07
  in the day They're pushing the envelope with trying different things and it's not
• 40:10
  the roof that I would want but have it in black And you can pretend to be batman.
• 40:14
  I think it's cool So going back to something we talked about earlier
• 40:17
  with the ford nugget By Westphalia and you mentioned that Volkswagen
• 40:21
  is going to be coming to the table with their own version of the camper.
• 40:25
  So here we are, we have the T7 California concept based loosely on the ID Buzz.
• 40:31
  There is talk of a larger minivan coming that's going to be bigger than
• 40:36
  the ID Buzz on a slightly different platform or whatever have you.
• 40:39
  I mean if I had infinite money I'd have one.
• 40:42
  But would you have it with that power plant?
• 40:44
  This looks heavy.
• 40:45
  1.
• 40:45
  4 liter single electric motor generating combined 215 horsepower.
• 40:51
  This thing's got away 5, 000 pounds.
• 40:54
  What they've done is created a type two bus that can't get out of its own way.
• 40:58
  Like they were when they were air cooled.
• 41:00
  Exactly.
• 41:01
  It's homage.
• 41:02
  You got to relive that.
• 41:03
  Yes.
• 41:04
  Thought about the nostalgia.
• 41:06
  I think there is a Tom Wookie Ford video from Top Gear on the VW
• 41:12
  camper concept, so it might be worth having a look at that at some point.
• 41:15
  This thing needs 300 horsepower, if not more.
• 41:18
  I mean, my wife's minivan makes over 300 horsepower and has a hybrid, you
• 41:22
  know, to boot, so it'll scoot along.
• 41:25
  Granted, it's aluminum space frame, all this other stuff.
• 41:27
  They try to keep it just under 5, 000 pounds.
• 41:29
  I don't see it.
• 41:30
  I like a leisurely journey.
• 41:32
  I'm not really sure about this.
• 41:33
  Now, I do like the look of it.
• 41:35
  It looks really nice.
• 41:36
  I love the two tone, the pop up camper top, all that kind of stuff.
• 41:39
  And I'm not a fan of light colored interiors.
• 41:42
  And I hate to say that on a proper camping trip or a proper camping holiday, that's
• 41:46
  gonna get dirty really, really fast.
• 41:48
  But it looks awesome in pictures.
• 41:49
  This or the Nugget?
• 41:50
  I'd go with the Ford.
• 41:51
  It's a Westie!
• 41:52
  I'm gonna have to go with the Ford!
• 41:54
  Well folks, the end is N I called it.
• 41:58
  I set it.
• 41:58
  I knew it once they got rid of the two doors on the golf and they eliminated
• 42:03
  the TT and they sunset the beetle.
• 42:05
  It was only a matter of time before Volkswagen took all the fun away
• 42:10
  and now the G T I is going to not come with a manual transmission.
• 42:15
  Can you believe it?
• 42:16
  An iconic hot hatchback that has had its.
• 42:19
  Dick shift since day one, they're doing away with it.
• 42:22
  It's a sad time, isn't it?
• 42:23
  Boo hiss, boo hiss.
• 42:25
  But wait, if that wasn't enough, it ushers in the return of the rabbit.
• 42:30
  Not that we need it to be called a rabbit, but it's going to be
• 42:34
  a sporty little electric car.
• 42:36
  that we already had called the GTI and they had the e golf and that
• 42:40
  didn't sell well and here we are.
• 42:42
  So it's an ID 3, 2, 1, I don't know, but with a little bunny on the back.
• 42:46
  Yes.
• 42:47
  It goes to the bunny.
• 42:48
  Do we need this in our lives?
• 42:50
  I think they need an electric beetle next before anything else.
• 42:54
  That would be cool.
• 42:55
  I saw the ID 3 in person at The Volkswagen dealership in Tivoli in Denmark.
• 43:00
  Yes.
• 43:00
  It's the size of a golf, like any Mark seven or Mark eight that's out there,
• 43:04
  but the proportions aren't right.
• 43:06
  The way the hood slopes, it has that grill less look to it, which we liked
• 43:11
  on the Passat's in the nineties.
• 43:12
  We liked on the beetle because it just worked with the car.
• 43:15
  I just can't get over some of the styling cues on the ID three.
• 43:18
  And if this is what's going to be sold here as the rabbit, yeah, I guess.
• 43:22
  Because it still maintains that shape of a hot hatch.
• 43:25
  This is a punch in the eye to the GTI lineage.
• 43:28
  It's an appliance, not a car.
• 43:30
  Again, the end is nigh.
• 43:31
  I knew it, I said it.
• 43:32
  Two doors go, the manual's next, and here comes an EV Golf, and that's it.
• 43:36
  Who is gonna save us?
• 43:38
  You know who's gonna save us?
• 43:39
  Maybe a rally company.
• 43:40
  What do you think?
• 43:41
  Nah.
• 43:42
  The Passat's gonna save us!
• 43:44
  No?
• 43:44
  Never mind.
• 43:44
  Gone, isn't it?
• 43:45
  It is gone for the United States.
• 43:47
  But here's the news on the Passat.
• 43:48
  It's only going to be sold as a wagon in the next couple of years in Europe.
• 43:53
  And I'm really disappointed about this.
• 43:55
  Why can't we have more wagons in our lives?
• 43:58
  It's not terrible looking.
• 44:00
  I'm not in love with this new Volkswagen front end yet.
• 44:03
  It hasn't really grown on me.
• 44:05
  But the idea of a Passat.
• 44:07
  Hybrid or Passat EV full station wagon with all the bells and whistles
• 44:13
  that you expect from Volkswagen.
• 44:15
  I'm on board, but give me some options, maybe an R line
• 44:18
  package, some nicer wheels.
• 44:20
  According to this article, it's going to have a couple different engine packages.
• 44:24
  It's going to have four motion, all these other kinds of things.
• 44:27
  So okay, cool.
• 44:28
  Why can't we have this?
• 44:30
  What's so wrong with the station wagon?
• 44:32
  Because when you get hit by a Tahoe, it won't stand up as well.
• 44:36
  So now I need a Tahoe so that when I hit a Tahoe or a Tahoe hits me in my Tahoe,
• 44:42
  it'll be the equivalent of any two cars of the same size hitting each other.
• 44:45
  So we haven't solved anything.
• 44:46
  Ah, I understand.
• 44:47
  Well, I guess a Tahoe is just a big station wagon, isn't it?
• 44:50
  Yeah, I have all that extra ground clearance that I
• 44:52
  wouldn't get in a station wagon.
• 44:54
  Because it's so low.
• 44:54
  It's too sporty.
• 44:56
  It rides too hard.
• 44:57
  I've ridden in some hard riding trucks, too.
• 45:00
  But there's another vehicle we need to discuss.
• 45:02
  And since you mentioned it earlier, Danny P, your friends Chris Harris over
• 45:07
  in the UK just reviewed the Tuthill.
• 45:10
  911k.
• 45:11
  I want to get your thoughts on this car.
• 45:13
  How cool is this car?
• 45:15
  Richard Tuthill is a big rally guy.
• 45:17
  I don't know if everyone knows that.
• 45:18
  He does a lot of fettling with different Porsches, but he's decided
• 45:22
  to basically do his own and he let Chris Harris behind the wheel.
• 45:25
  So this is the Tuthill Porsche 911k and it is a lightweight Porsche.
• 45:32
  With an engine that revs like a motorbike engine, you know, 11, 000
• 45:36
  RPM out of a 911, which are normally famous for, you know, revving high.
• 45:41
  We talk about all these declines in these cars that we love and everything else.
• 45:45
  There's someone keeping it real, and they're keeping it real in the UK.
• 45:48
  What I think is interesting about this car is All carbon fiber body
• 45:52
  and they go through it is this panel?
• 45:54
  Is this panel?
• 45:55
  Is this?
• 45:55
  Yes, yes, yes.
• 45:56
  Even the Fuchs replicas are carbon fiber and I'm just blown away by
• 46:01
  the amount of carbon that they put on this car to save the weight.
• 46:03
  To your point, the engine is interesting.
• 46:05
  It's a 3.
• 46:06
  1 liter cranking out somewhere in the neighborhood of 350 foot pounds of torque.
• 46:10
  The horsepower numbers are a little variable there.
• 46:13
  So it's power to weight ratio.
• 46:14
  Isn't bad.
• 46:15
  It's not as good as maybe some of the other air cooled
• 46:18
  builds that are out there.
• 46:19
  Especially you start throwing turbochargers on things, all
• 46:21
  of that goes out the window.
• 46:23
  The question though, with the way the engine is built being a twin cam,
• 46:28
  really a four can air cooled engine.
• 46:31
  That's something that Porsche played with on the nine 59s.
• 46:34
  They had a hard time keeping it cool, having core meltdowns
• 46:38
  and things like that.
• 46:38
  959s aren't driven that much, so not a lot of people have maybe encountered
• 46:42
  those problems, but 959s do have issues.
• 46:44
  So I'm really curious from an engineering perspective how Tuthill got past that
• 46:48
  when Porsche couldn't figure it out.
• 46:50
  Maybe it's because there's 30, 40 years of evolution and it's a
• 46:54
  complete redesign somehow, but to put an engine like this together
• 46:58
  with those specs, that configuration, and maintain air cooling only.
• 47:03
  Is a feat of magic, if nothing else, I will say the rest of the car, it's
• 47:09
  a long bonnet 911, but its interior doesn't match anything that's coming
• 47:14
  out of singer vehicle design in terms of that bespoke, the quality, but
• 47:18
  that would add weight, wouldn't it?
• 47:20
  It is something for him to just.
• 47:22
  Rag around a track.
• 47:24
  I don't know if the phrase rag translates, but to basically take it by the scruff of
• 47:28
  the neck and rinse it, as we would say.
• 47:30
  The interior, he probably doesn't care about the interior.
• 47:32
  It's all about lightweight, high revs, and having as much fun as you can on the car.
• 47:37
  So would you rather have a Tuthill 911, or an Exige, or an Evora, or something
• 47:42
  like that, which is already stripped down?
• 47:44
  Yeah, I think the Tuthill 911, just because of the weight dynamics,
• 47:48
  We know what these classic Porsches drive like, don't we?
• 47:51
  I think my boat still goes to the Lourdes, though.
• 47:52
  Yeah?
• 47:53
  I would prefer mid engine, honestly.
• 47:55
  But it's interesting, I mean, that car obviously is priceless, because it's
• 47:58
  not a car he's putting into production.
• 48:00
  Well, he's gonna build 30 samples of it, from what I understand.
• 48:03
  That may have come after the video, then, I didn't see that.
• 48:05
  Did he put a price on them that I don't know, but even the car that
• 48:08
  they were testing, it was stamped one of 30 because Evo magazine have
• 48:12
  just reviewed the pro drive 22 B.
• 48:15
  So this is an all new half a million dollar Subaru.
• 48:19
  And that thing looks immense.
• 48:20
  Well, it's interesting.
• 48:21
  It's only got one flappy paddle.
• 48:23
  So you shift up and you shift down using one paddle instead of
• 48:27
  traditionally you would use two.
• 48:28
  And this thing is a rally car for the road and it looks immense.
• 48:32
  The problem that Tuthill will be faced with in terms of pricing is
• 48:36
  whether or not you have to supply the early 70s chassis that this is
• 48:41
  built on and then they go ahead and do all the restomodding and all that.
• 48:44
  Or if they're going to acquire, well, basically harvest 30 versions of a 911 T
• 48:51
  S whatever it is, they're all the same, basically the end of the day, the problem
• 48:55
  is those cars are expensive to get into.
• 48:57
  So does it become like some of the other manufacturers we've seen
• 49:01
  where yes, bring your Mustang, we'll build you a monstrosity.
• 49:05
  Are they going to have to go that model?
• 49:06
  Are they going to have to do more like singer where they're buying cars?
• 49:09
  And then obviously the uplift to make profit on them is going to be huge.
• 49:13
  These Easily could be quarter million dollar cars, which then goes back to my
• 49:17
  argument for a quarter million bucks.
• 49:18
  What else can you buy that might have a similar performance factor?
• 49:22
  It might be maybe a little bit easier to drive.
• 49:24
  From my perspective, Chris Harris looked stressed out driving that car.
• 49:28
  It did not look like an, it was an enjoyable drive
• 49:31
  until he put it on the track.
• 49:32
  But then when he was on the track, he spent more time really hooning around
• 49:35
  in it because it wanted to break loose then to really put it through
• 49:39
  its paces and say, I'm going to do a hot lap, a time trial lap here at the
• 49:43
  ring or wherever it is, I think that takes a lot more concentration, a lot
• 49:46
  more determination with a car like that, then jumping into something mid
• 49:50
  engine or a little bit more modern.
• 49:52
  It did look like he was having to learn that car a lot.
• 49:55
  For that sort of money, what else can you buy?
• 49:57
  Well, Alphaholics, they do a modern interpretation, don't they?
• 50:00
  They do, and they're gorgeous, and I would love to have one of those.
• 50:03
  Well, there's another brand that Tanya would love to have sitting
• 50:08
  in her driveway, and it's very rare that we get to talk about
• 50:10
  our friends from Lower Saxony.
• 50:12
  So what's on the radar this month?
• 50:14
  The new 2024 AMG GT, which is sadly getting bigger and softer.
• 50:22
  It also still looks well proportioned, I guess.
• 50:24
  Same, same, but different at the same time.
• 50:27
  The nose isn't as long as the previous ones.
• 50:29
  They've made this one a 2 plus 2, meaning there's a backseat for your guests.
• 50:34
  I'm like, really?
• 50:35
  So it's 9 11 back seats.
• 50:37
  So it's for people without the ability to have a leg.
• 50:40
  It's a car for contortionists.
• 50:42
  Yes.
• 50:42
  Or like a small child for two years of their life or something.
• 50:46
  It's confusing to me.
• 50:46
  Why bother?
• 50:47
  They've been two seaters, keep them two seaters.
• 50:49
  If you want a four door, go get C class or E class or whatever class.
• 50:54
  Trying to compete directly with Porsche, aren't they?
• 50:56
  This is where we're going back to the DB12 again.
• 51:00
  If you start really looking at some of the angles on this new AMG GT, you
• 51:05
  start to see the DB12 and vice versa.
• 51:07
  Especially some of these three quarter angle shots of the
• 51:10
  front headlights and the grille.
• 51:12
  It's missing that cutaway behind.
• 51:15
  The front wheels, but you can see the same lines where it's
• 51:18
  sharing maybe the platform with the Aston Martin and vice versa.
• 51:22
  Now, granted the rear end retains that classic SLS GT look that I have always
• 51:28
  joked was borrowed from the nine 28.
• 51:30
  It has that sort of design to it where the Aston Martin steps away, has a little
• 51:34
  bit of more of that Jaguar duck tail, like the DB nine, the DB seven had.
• 51:38
  There's a lot of similarities between these two cars.
• 51:40
  It goes back to what we talked about in the beginning.
• 51:42
  I would rather have this than the Aston.
• 51:45
  The 911 in the rear quarter of this car.
• 51:48
  Because of the flares.
• 51:49
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 51:50
  But it's so much better looking than the 911.
• 51:54
  Those are fighting words.
• 51:55
  I know it.
• 51:55
  I know it, but here's the thing that AMG V8 sounds like nothing else.
• 52:00
  I think the only sound that comes close to it was the C7,
• 52:04
  especially the C7R Corvette.
• 52:05
  Those were.
• 52:06
  Unbelievably good.
• 52:07
  They have that nice deep base to them, just like the AMGs do,
• 52:11
  but there's something about a Mercedes V8 that just hits you
• 52:15
  right in the middle of your chest.
• 52:16
  It sounds like nothing else and fun to drive too.
• 52:19
  I've driven some of the older, like CLK Blacks and things like that,
• 52:21
  and they're just an absolute riot.
• 52:23
  So I can only imagine that these are better by a long shot.
• 52:26
  BMW, as we know, jumped into the fray with electronic vehicles and
• 52:31
  hybrids back with the i series.
• 52:33
  We can all call back to the i3 and the i8, which was like a new Batmobile.
• 52:38
  But now they're talking about a new 3 series.
• 52:42
  EV.
• 52:42
  Well, this is a concept so far because when you see it, you don't
• 52:45
  think 3 series, you think 2002.
• 52:48
  I would agree.
• 52:49
  Which for a 2002 EV, I mean, it's kind of cool.
• 52:52
  Did they fire their head of design and bring someone new in?
• 52:55
  Because this looks good.
• 52:56
  It's not just one kidney grill though, there's two.
• 53:00
  The back looks like an Alpha 164.
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  Yeah.
• 53:04
  Yeah.
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  Straight out of the 90s.
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  And it has a lot of Alfa Romeo look to it, which I'm okay with.
• 53:10
  And the big grills aside, then I know it's a concept thing and they
• 53:13
  want to show it off and the natural light and all this kind of thing.
• 53:16
  The greenhouse effect that this car will have when you drive around with an all
• 53:21
  glass roof has to be absolutely killer.
• 53:24
  On a hot day in the middle of Texas or California?
• 53:27
  Nah, it'll probably have some quirky technology where the sunroof glass,
• 53:32
  you can hit a button and it goes.
• 53:34
  And it goes dark like the new airplane.
• 53:36
  Yeah, well, they're not new anymore But how the airplane windows you hit the
• 53:39
  button instead of pulling the shade down and it just like goes dark Maybe they'll
• 53:42
  put that feature in it'll be subscription so you can pay extra for it The only
• 53:46
  other problem I have with it is the interior looks like something you would
• 53:51
  pick up at a garage sale That was left over from the mid 70s That particular
• 53:56
  gold, and that particular weave, and the purple accents, and the white.
• 54:00
  This is some art deco.
• 54:03
  I don't understand this interior.
• 54:05
  It's not German, and it's not BMW.
• 54:08
  It doesn't scream 3 series to me by any stretch of the imagination.
• 54:11
  Probably handle the interior with the correct color choice.
• 54:14
  What bothers me immensely is that, like, crooked HUD display thing.
• 54:19
  Bizarre trapezoid, and it looked like it was, like, an S.
• 54:21
  Rhombus, it was like angled.
• 54:23
  Well not only that, it's the two spoke rectangular steering wheel that
• 54:27
  looks like it's out of a 70s Citroen.
• 54:29
  Leave that stuff to the French, BMW, okay?
• 54:32
  Next they'll do the one handled steering wheel, you remember those?
• 54:36
  This is not a yoke, to be honest.
• 54:37
  That comes off in your hands.
• 54:39
  A lot of these concepts never come to fruition, or the production version never
• 54:45
  looks anything like the concept car.
• 54:46
  And that's why they're concept cars, right?
• 54:47
  They're design studies.
• 54:49
  BMW get a lot of heat because of their design at the minute.
• 54:52
  So I wonder if this is a response to some of that heat that they've received.
• 54:56
  No, no, they've been too busy getting heat on something else, right, Tanya?
• 54:59
  Yeah, those heated seat subscriptions apparently aren't panning out.
• 55:02
  Oh, nobody's signing up to get paid to play for their winter package.
• 55:07
  I mean, talking about bonehead moves.
• 55:10
  We called it though.
• 55:11
  Nobody's going to pay for these nickel and dime features.
• 55:14
  This is not an iPhone and you're in the Apple arcade and you need to
• 55:18
  buy the next weapon, you know, so you can level up your RPG character.
• 55:21
  It doesn't work for cars.
• 55:23
  If they want to simplify the manufacturing process.
• 55:26
  Put the feature in there, put a dead switch in or whatever.
• 55:29
  I love it.
• 55:30
  We thought that we would provide an extra service to the customer.
• 55:33
  What do you mean extra service?
• 55:34
  Almost every car comes standard with heated seats these days.
• 55:38
  Boneheads.
• 55:39
  In the luxury category, it's expected, right?
• 55:41
  Luxury category.
• 55:43
  My nearly 25 year old Volkswagen has heated seats.
• 55:47
  Luxury category, my rear end.
• 55:49
  Come now.
• 55:49
  Literally your rear end on a warm heated seat, right?
• 55:52
  I can go warm my rear end.
• 55:55
  And you didn't have to pay a subscription.
• 55:56
  Yeah, for free.
• 55:57
  Exactly.
• 55:58
  Quote free.
• 55:58
  I paid for it.
• 55:59
  Which is why people are upset with this because they feel like
• 56:02
  they're being charged again.
• 56:04
  Because obviously they've already paid BMW price for the car.
• 56:07
  And then they have to pay extra for something that has probably been
• 56:10
  standard on a BMW for who knows how long.
• 56:13
  BMW making all the right moves.
• 56:17
  Speaking of making the right moves, we need to talk about Stellantis.
• 56:21
  Those folks at Maserati?
• 56:22
  Yeah, they say that motorsports are essential to business.
• 56:26
  Where were they in the 50s and 60s?
• 56:28
  Maserati's always had some sort of race car here, there, and
• 56:32
  everywhere, and that's fine.
• 56:33
  They do the hokey pokey, like, we're in this year, we're out this
• 56:36
  year, here comes the MC12, we'll run at Le Mans, then we won't, all
• 56:39
  this back and forth and whatnot.
• 56:41
  This latest car?
• 56:43
  I really like it.
• 56:44
  I'm excited.
• 56:45
  If this is going to end up in what used to be GTLM, I'm all for it.
• 56:49
  They are labeling it with the 24 hinting that they may take this car to Lamar.
• 56:54
  What's nice is this doesn't exactly look like a Ferrari 296.
• 56:59
  That's got different body panels on it.
• 57:00
  Granted, it probably is, but it does reach back to Maserati's past.
• 57:06
  It kind of reminds me of what the Maserati B Turbo, as they like
• 57:10
  to call it, or Bi Turbo, would look like in today's day and age.
• 57:13
  I think this car is hot, I think it's necessary, and I want to
• 57:17
  see it at Le Mans next year.
• 57:18
  It looks sick.
• 57:19
  It's interesting that all these manufacturers seem to be getting
• 57:21
  on this bandwagon, don't they?
• 57:22
  Because Ford at Car Week, the branding was slightly different for me.
• 57:26
  Why call a car a GTD and not make it a diesel?
• 57:29
  It's the GT3.
• 57:30
  We all saw it at Le Mans.
• 57:32
  It's the street version of it, but you could still call it the GT3
• 57:35
  because that's what Porsche does.
• 57:36
  There's the GT3 RSR race car and the GT3 for the street.
• 57:41
  Big deal.
• 57:41
  It's definitely a theme.
• 57:42
  These car companies are doubling down on motorsport in order
• 57:45
  to keep their brands alive.
• 57:47
  That's also true of Alfa Romeo.
• 57:49
  They've decided to.
• 57:51
  Tease and alpha 33 stradale as a limited run.
• 57:55
  I don't know what to think of this because the alpha 4c was supposed to be
• 58:00
  the new reimagination of the 33 stradale.
• 58:04
  And here now they're saying, well, well, let's, let's forget about the 4c.
• 58:08
  Here's another car for you to look at, which.
• 58:11
  Sort of looks like the 8C sometimes, does kind of remind me of the original 33.
• 58:16
  I mean, this probably looks more like one than the 4C did.
• 58:20
  And the gullwing doors that are scissored, sort of?
• 58:24
  It's very strange.
• 58:25
  I love the interior on this car.
• 58:27
  Talk about minimalist.
• 58:28
  Talk about Italian flair.
• 58:30
  It's just so sexy, but there are still pieces of it, especially in profile.
• 58:34
  When you look at that one shot that it looks like the four C's
• 58:38
  still, do you guys see that?
• 58:39
  Or is it just me?
• 58:39
  I can see it a little bit.
• 58:41
  They're only making 33 of them.
• 58:43
  I mean, how much more limited production can you get?
• 58:45
  Red, some red, 2 million car.
• 58:48
  Is it going to be a million bucks?
• 58:49
  Who?
• 58:50
  Million dollars, 2 million.
• 58:51
  Wow.
• 58:52
  I will look forward to seeing one of these in a future car week or in
• 58:56
  somebody's private collection or at the Peterson or something like where the
• 59:00
  grocery store down at the Piggly Wiggly.
• 59:03
  I'm sure the Sultan of somewhere will buy three or four of these.
• 59:06
  That'll chew up a bunch of them.
• 59:07
  This is super cool.
• 59:08
  Alpha needs to do more stuff like this.
• 59:10
  Like we've said before, they're the BMW of the Italian car market.
• 59:14
  They need more.
• 59:15
  40 cars.
• 59:16
  They need more things in the motor sport realm, especially with their
• 59:19
  exit from formula one coming soon.
• 59:21
  They need to keep that momentum going to keep people interested in the brand
• 59:25
  other than just, you know, the formula one cars, but as we continue down our domestic
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  We have an entry here about Corvettes from Dan.
• 59:41
  Would you like to tell us about it?
• 59:42
  My friends at the Peterson have just opened a new exhibit.
• 59:45
  So this is the Peterson Automotive Museum in LA, and they tend to rotate
• 59:48
  their exhibits really regularly, which is a really good thing because it
• 59:51
  means that if you go within a sort of.
• 59:53
  A month or two months, you'll actually see something a bit different.
• 59:56
  And this is a new exhibit focused on Chevys and specifically
• 59:59
  Corvettes and racing Corvettes.
• 1:00:01
  It's called Corvettes in competition.
• 1:00:03
  And it basically documents some of the most famous winning Corvettes of time.
• 1:00:07
  It looks fantastic.
• 1:00:09
  They borrowed cars from notable people like the Rebs Institute.
• 1:00:12
  So it's a, an exciting exhibit.
• 1:00:14
  I can't wait to get down there.
• 1:00:15
  I'll be down there in a few weeks time.
• 1:00:16
  And this is in concert with Corvette's 70th birthday.
• 1:00:20
  That's why you're seeing a lot of these different celebrations going on.
• 1:00:22
  And some of those cars were at the Monterey Historics this year
• 1:00:25
  as part of Car Week as well.
• 1:00:27
  Moving on, some JDM and Asian car news.
• 1:00:31
  They've finally done it.
• 1:00:32
  They finally decided to go down the EV route.
• 1:00:35
  I think this has been teased for a couple of years.
• 1:00:37
  I can remember seeing concepts that Pebble and, uh, the quail for the
• 1:00:40
  last few years, but they've actually unveiled the, I guess you guys would
• 1:00:43
  call it the Z D X or the Z, the Z D X coming to a car charger near you.
• 1:00:48
  But they've unveiled it and it, it looks pretty funky actually.
• 1:00:51
  So you mean the Honda Pilot?
• 1:00:52
  There we go.
• 1:00:52
  The Honda Pilot with the suit on.
• 1:00:55
  put on a boat eye.
• 1:00:56
  The ZDX, if everybody recalls, that was Acura's version of the
• 1:01:00
  Honda Crosstour way back when.
• 1:01:02
  It became a full estate after that, before they sunsetted it, which
• 1:01:06
  was basically a TSX station wagon or a TL station wagon, something
• 1:01:09
  like that, if I remember correctly.
• 1:01:11
  So the ZDX is back as an SUV, looks like a full size from the pictures, estimated
• 1:01:16
  to deliver a 500 horsepower equivalency.
• 1:01:20
  That's going to be a quick truck.
• 1:01:22
  That's for sure.
• 1:01:22
  And that's in the dual motor configuration, by the way.
• 1:01:25
  So interesting to see Honda step out and do more things with EV than just
• 1:01:31
  the basic Econoboxes that they've been putting together thus far.
• 1:01:34
  But there's also some shaking up going on in the world of Integra.
• 1:01:39
  So just when you think that these cars are quick enough, someone has actually
• 1:01:43
  revealed that you can jailbreak a Integra type Ss and make it much quicker than both
• 1:01:49
  the type F Ss as well as the Honda type R.
• 1:01:52
  There's a whole page on the drive around how you can now tune these cars
• 1:01:56
  with software versus physical part, and they've managed to jailbreak it.
• 1:02:00
  So one over the air update will take care of that to re-encrypt the E C U so
• 1:02:05
  that they can't, or how's it gonna work?
• 1:02:08
  There's always people out there that are willing to try and test, isn't there?
• 1:02:11
  So it's a game of catch up and then catch up again.
• 1:02:14
  And what's interesting about this is unlike Hondas of previous
• 1:02:18
  generations, this is using a Bosch electronic fuel injection system.
• 1:02:22
  So it's using Bosch ECUs.
• 1:02:24
  And I'm wondering this new revelation that people have come to is really
• 1:02:28
  no different than what the Volkswagen community has known forever.
• 1:02:32
  Is that the ECUs are open and they can be reflash and you can manipulate the system.
• 1:02:36
  Granted, you void your warranty almost immediately, but unlike the Chrysler
• 1:02:41
  Bosch ECUs, which are full disc encrypted, and you can't make modifications to
• 1:02:46
  them, this is not uncommon for Bosch ECUs to get flashed, where you can buy
• 1:02:50
  a tune for five or 700 bucks from a known tuner, at least in the Volkswagen
• 1:02:54
  world, from somebody like a p r, and suddenly get a hundred more horsepower
• 1:02:58
  without changing any other parts.
• 1:02:59
  I guess I'm glad that Honda's catching up.
• 1:03:02
  The other thing for me with this one is actually people see this as
• 1:03:05
  a car worthy to try and jailbreak.
• 1:03:07
  That's true.
• 1:03:08
  Think about some of the Acuras of recent time, let's exclude some of the
• 1:03:11
  quick ones, but they've always been less of a interesting car when it comes
• 1:03:15
  to things like modifying, et cetera.
• 1:03:17
  So, uh, yeah, I think it's interesting that people are actually going to
• 1:03:19
  spend the time to try and hack it.
• 1:03:21
  Well, you know what?
• 1:03:21
  They're not going to spend the time hacking because they're going
• 1:03:24
  to spend their time enjoying.
• 1:03:25
  That's the Toyota Century SUV.
• 1:03:29
  That is rumored to becoming stateside in the next couple of years.
• 1:03:32
  So for those that aren't familiar, what is this Toyota century?
• 1:03:35
  The century division of Toyota is the highest of the high.
• 1:03:39
  These are the cars that they built for ambassadors, presidents,
• 1:03:43
  mobsters, whoever needs these luxury limousines armored or otherwise.
• 1:03:48
  They have a program in which they have apprentices working at century for
• 1:03:52
  decades before they can take over and do certain jobs, hand stitching the leather.
• 1:03:57
  I mean, these cars are of the highest.
• 1:03:59
  quality.
• 1:03:59
  They've been building SUVs and now those are going to be coming to the
• 1:04:02
  States to compete with cars like the Rolls Royce Cullinan, the Bentley
• 1:04:06
  Bentayga, and some of the other high line British SUVs that are available today.
• 1:04:11
  Will badge snobbery kick into play?
• 1:04:14
  Are you going to want a Toyota badge versus a Rolls Royce badge, for example?
• 1:04:18
  That's the hard sell.
• 1:04:19
  That goes back to the dilemma with the Volkswagen Phaeton.
• 1:04:23
  The Phaeton was an amazing car from an engineering perspective, but who
• 1:04:26
  wants to show up to the golf course in a Volkswagen, you'd rather have the
• 1:04:31
  A8 L that shared a similar platform because it carries that prestige.
• 1:04:35
  And then from there you went to the Panamera, which is
• 1:04:37
  again, an A8 L underneath.
• 1:04:39
  So to your point, will it be sold here like Genesis?
• 1:04:43
  Right.
• 1:04:43
  Or just be labeled as century kind of pulling the thread away from Toyota.
• 1:04:48
  A little people go, Oh, I have to own a century.
• 1:04:50
  I've never heard of century, but there could also be that stigma
• 1:04:53
  of I've never heard of century, even though they'd been around for
• 1:04:56
  forever and a day as part of Toyota.
• 1:04:59
  I don't, that's a tough call to make Dan in terms of what people will buy.
• 1:05:03
  The other thing that might throw them off.
• 1:05:04
  Is a four door SUV where the two rear doors slide like a minivan.
• 1:05:08
  It looks like reading this article, they're going to do a GR version.
• 1:05:12
  Anything with the GR badge is good in my book.
• 1:05:14
  Okay.
• 1:05:14
  It's cool, right?
• 1:05:15
  So they could send it to the Paris Dakar.
• 1:05:17
  Now you have my attention.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  In some respects, this shares.
• 1:05:21
  Some of the things that I became accustomed to with our Lexus LX 600
• 1:05:26
  press vehicle that we had at car week, like the full size rear seats that
• 1:05:30
  reclined and were heated, and you had the Captain Kirk console in the
• 1:05:33
  center and all those kinds of things I talked about in the last drive through.
• 1:05:36
  So that Highline Lexus is going to be competing with the Century.
• 1:05:40
  So the Century better have some really interesting features that people go,
• 1:05:43
  well, why would I not buy a Lexus?
• 1:05:45
  And I think that goes back to what you were saying as well.
• 1:05:48
  So, it's time to talk about random new EVs and concepts.
• 1:05:51
  Well, I was going to start with the Lucid Air Sapphire, which is
• 1:05:55
  quicker than a Bugatti Chiron.
• 1:05:57
  Lucid are obviously trying to make a name for themselves.
• 1:06:00
  They've done Goodwood with the Stig last year, and they've
• 1:06:03
  now developed this Sapphire.
• 1:06:04
  Its claim to fame is quicker than a Chiron.
• 1:06:06
  Why is that important?
• 1:06:08
  It's a good question.
• 1:06:09
  It's not important to me, but maybe it's the people that buy these cars.
• 1:06:12
  There lies the dilemma.
• 1:06:14
  We're going to build these EVs that are like missiles, but wasn't the intent of
• 1:06:19
  EVs to save the planet, reduce greenhouse gases, do all this kind of stuff?
• 1:06:24
  And they're supposed to be economical cars.
• 1:06:26
  Why are we building them so fast?
• 1:06:28
  And by going so fast, don't we deplete the energy that they're
• 1:06:33
  supposed to use more quickly and therefore have to recharge more often.
• 1:06:36
  And then it's like turtles all the way down.
• 1:06:38
  I think for me, Lucid is trying to find his place in the market.
• 1:06:41
  It's got some good bragging rights around its distance.
• 1:06:43
  But how does it differentiate itself?
• 1:06:45
  And I think it's speed is the one that they're going for.
• 1:06:47
  But I agree with you.
• 1:06:48
  It's not why we buy these electric cars.
• 1:06:50
  I think he's right.
• 1:06:51
  What makes it any different than a Chevy Bolt?
• 1:06:53
  Maybe it could be that you could get a nice looking car that
• 1:06:57
  doesn't cost a million dollars.
• 1:06:59
  I don't care about that.
• 1:07:00
  Look at the cars on the road.
• 1:07:01
  Why can't we make a good looking EV?
• 1:07:03
  Why does a cheaply priced.
• 1:07:05
  Car have to look like something out of the Jetsons.
• 1:07:07
  Why can't Chevy make the Bolt more attractive?
• 1:07:10
  It's got a lot of good features to it.
• 1:07:12
  It's got a good price point.
• 1:07:14
  Apparently it's built quality is okay.
• 1:07:16
  Except for the ones that they mandated stay outside that you never plug in
• 1:07:19
  because they might melt your house down.
• 1:07:20
  Because they're so small because they're however they're built and
• 1:07:24
  da da da da is why they can be affordably priced and not 70, 000.
• 1:07:28
  But why do they have to be ugly?
• 1:07:29
  I don't know who they hired.
• 1:07:32
  I don't think the speed is that important in an EV.
• 1:07:35
  And if you've ever ridden in even a Tesla in ludicrous mode, it's
• 1:07:39
  sort of like a roller coaster.
• 1:07:40
  You're like, ah, and then you just, it sort of just drops
• 1:07:44
  off and you're just like, okay, that was fun for three seconds.
• 1:07:46
  And you move on with life and everyday person doesn't need to go zero to 60 in 1.
• 1:07:50
  9 seconds.
• 1:07:52
  And even then it's.
• 1:07:53
  You know, touch these buttons, do this thing.
• 1:07:55
  Sure they do.
• 1:07:56
  With their inability to gauge speed, they can rear end you all that much faster.
• 1:08:00
  That's what the nannies are for.
• 1:08:01
  It's supposed to stop you from doing it.
• 1:08:03
  Okay.
• 1:08:03
  It also goes to your point from earlier.
• 1:08:05
  This car is a quarter of a million dollars.
• 1:08:07
  What else can you be buying for a quarter of a million dollars?
• 1:08:10
  It's the magic number.
• 1:08:11
  Everything's 250 grand these days because your entry level
• 1:08:13
  vehicle now is 50, 000, right?
• 1:08:16
  Speaking of EV's expensive cars.
• 1:08:18
  What about the new reek nivera destroying the lap record at the Berg ring that
• 1:08:24
  they did like several months ago?
• 1:08:25
  Yes, but it's in the news again.
• 1:08:28
  They are the kings of the ring buying whatever.
• 1:08:31
  Again, this goes back to, do we need them to be this fast?
• 1:08:34
  It's already a $2 million supercar.
• 1:08:37
  Is it the fastest supercar?
• 1:08:39
  No.
• 1:08:39
  Bugatti still holds that crown.
• 1:08:41
  Now there's speculation about whatever that other car was
• 1:08:44
  called, the Chimera or...
• 1:08:45
  Or Tuatara thing.
• 1:08:47
  Yeah, yeah, the Tuatara.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah, that's right.
• 1:08:49
  One off thing that they couldn't prove what speed it was actually going.
• 1:08:53
  Okay, great.
• 1:08:54
  You destroyed the lap record at the ring until somebody else comes along.
• 1:08:58
  Are those things that important anymore?
• 1:09:00
  No.
• 1:09:01
  Danny Shikin has said nope.
• 1:09:03
  Where did all the fun go?
• 1:09:04
  It went away when the manual transmissions went away, that's when it happened.
• 1:09:07
  Tanya, here's one that I know you're so excited about.
• 1:09:11
  A few years ago now, I guess, the Great Wall Motor Company in China
• 1:09:15
  had revealed their pump cat blatant ripoff of the Volkswagen Beetle.
• 1:09:22
  And since then they've gone on to have the ballet cat and now
• 1:09:25
  they're introducing the funky cat.
• 1:09:28
  Oh, come on, which is a blatant ripoff Of a nissan leaf from
• 1:09:33
  the back from the front.
• 1:09:35
  It looks like a bizarre 356 It looks like a subaru 360 for way back
• 1:09:39
  when that's what I was thinking.
• 1:09:40
  It also looks like a cross eyed cat That'll be the next one cross eyed cat.
• 1:09:44
  Everything's cat.
• 1:09:46
  Yeah Isn't the cat lucky in China, right?
• 1:09:48
  With the arm.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah.
• 1:09:49
  When you, there we go.
• 1:09:51
  You get a coin when you open the door or something.
• 1:09:54
  As goofy as this thing is from the outside, it's pretty
• 1:09:57
  well appointed on the inside.
• 1:10:00
  It's sort of like a Dodge Hornet or the Alfa Romeo Tonale when you look at it,
• 1:10:05
  the way it's got that nice, almost tufted microfiber door cards and the seats.
• 1:10:11
  It has a little bit of Fiat look to it.
• 1:10:13
  Super simple and clean.
• 1:10:14
  The outside withstanding, it wouldn't be a bad place to live if I wanted an econobox.
• 1:10:20
  This thing costs 37, 000.
• 1:10:22
  Okay, nevermind.
• 1:10:23
  I'll buy a Honda Civic from Canada and save money.
• 1:10:26
  Nonetheless.
• 1:10:27
  Wow.
• 1:10:28
  Granted, apparently Nissan Leafs are terribly less expensive.
• 1:10:32
  They're a little bit more than that.
• 1:10:33
  Do they even sell those anymore?
• 1:10:34
  Does Nissan sell cars?
• 1:10:36
  Yes.
• 1:10:36
  Oh, okay.
• 1:10:37
  So this next one was really interesting.
• 1:10:39
  Every once in a while, Jalopnik just lobs one out of the park.
• 1:10:43
  And this article for me was that one.
• 1:10:46
  Unlike last month, where we talked about crazy math and how they calculate
• 1:10:49
  EMPG versus MPG and how, you know, a pickup truck is as economical.
• 1:10:54
  As Tesla and all this stuff that we were debating back and forth, this article
• 1:10:58
  talks about how EVs are used really to the point that they're only environmentally
• 1:11:04
  friendly if you drive them a lot.
• 1:11:07
  And I thought that was kind of an interesting discussion
• 1:11:09
  around EVs versus ICE cars.
• 1:11:12
  If the assumption is it gets trashed at low miles, because Even if someone
• 1:11:18
  changes their car at 50, 000 miles, let's say, as many are apt to do in the U.
• 1:11:22
  S.
• 1:11:22
  because, my car is too old, I need a new one.
• 1:11:25
  That car isn't going to a crusher, that car is going to a used car lot, it's
• 1:11:28
  going to somebody else who presumably will drive it for another 50, 000 miles.
• 1:11:32
  And they talked about that magic window threshold was like
• 1:11:35
  20 something to 68, 000 miles.
• 1:11:37
  that the car needs to run on.
• 1:11:39
  Well, okay, in its lifetime it will hit those miles, so therefore
• 1:11:43
  what's the argument that it is more friendly than a gas car?
• 1:11:47
  Something that can be said about cars that sit for long periods of time, if you're
• 1:11:51
  doing a lot of city driving, which is the intention of EVs, you're doing a lot of
• 1:11:55
  short trips, low mileage, and so it might take a long time to rack up 30, 000 miles.
• 1:12:01
  Of only city driving, because people still have a lot of range anxiety.
• 1:12:04
  There's the daring few and the pioneers out there that will go coast to coast in
• 1:12:08
  an EV or up and down the East coast from Maine to Florida and things like that.
• 1:12:12
  That's not everybody.
• 1:12:14
  Not everybody's racking up a hundred thousand miles on their EV.
• 1:12:17
  And I think that's the point that we're trying to drive home is.
• 1:12:20
  As these cars are getting older quickly, you're really not racking up the miles
• 1:12:24
  as if it was a single used single car in the family that was gas powered.
• 1:12:28
  People are like, well, we'll drive from here to Kansas.
• 1:12:30
  No problem.
• 1:12:31
  The cars are sitting a lot longer than they were previously.
• 1:12:34
  I don't know that we know that again.
• 1:12:36
  No one's ever writing these articles and actually explaining because
• 1:12:40
  all they just say is, well, the batteries, it's the making of the car.
• 1:12:43
  That is the problem.
• 1:12:44
  Not the car.
• 1:12:44
  Once it's built and it's running.
• 1:12:46
  Once the car is built and it's running, it is more environmentally friendly.
• 1:12:49
  than anything else.
• 1:12:51
  There's no tailpipe emissions while it's running.
• 1:12:53
  But what all these articles always fail to address is, well, what did
• 1:12:58
  it take comparatively to get to the point that the car is running?
• 1:13:01
  More articles talk about, well, your electricity costs and that and that,
• 1:13:04
  but then what is the true cost of electricity in terms of the environmental
• 1:13:08
  impact because you have a power plant running, da da da da da, all that stuff.
• 1:13:11
  Versus I'm drilling into the ground, and I'm shipping oil halfway around
• 1:13:15
  the world, and then I'm processing.
• 1:13:17
  Those are the details that still aren't comparatively discussed ever.
• 1:13:21
  It's all anecdotal.
• 1:13:22
  This is bad.
• 1:13:23
  This is good.
• 1:13:24
  I'm like, I don't know what actually is bad or good.
• 1:13:26
  I can say that if I don't have something coming out of my tailpipe, that is
• 1:13:31
  better for the air that I breathe.
• 1:13:32
  Is that better overall for the planet?
• 1:13:35
  If I chugged out 900 times the pollution to get that car?
• 1:13:39
  Versus ice.
• 1:13:40
  Well, that's horse of a different color, right?
• 1:13:43
  And in the United States, it's a tough discussion to have because
• 1:13:46
  then you start getting into the more political side of things.
• 1:13:49
  Are we offsetting the carbon emissions from the city centers to the power plants?
• 1:13:54
  Because again, these EVs are not run on unicorn farts, the electricity
• 1:13:58
  has to come from somewhere, and we do not produce clean electricity
• 1:14:02
  at the source in the United States.
• 1:14:04
  So that's a bigger problem.
• 1:14:05
  Places where they leverage nuclear and other options that are cleaner, there
• 1:14:09
  are arguments about safety there as well.
• 1:14:11
  Displacement of the carbon footprint doesn't absolve us of our sins.
• 1:14:16
  I agree with you, but I thought this article anecdotal or
• 1:14:20
  otherwise was interesting from a food for thought perspective.
• 1:14:23
  It was refreshing for somebody to come at this discussion from
• 1:14:27
  a different angle and say, well, you have you thought about this?
• 1:14:30
  Maybe your Evie shouldn't be sitting around so much, but their argument
• 1:14:33
  is it all goes back to building it.
• 1:14:36
  Yes.
• 1:14:36
  It's already built and I own it, that it's sitting there.
• 1:14:39
  is probably still better than a gasoline car because when I fire it up to drive
• 1:14:43
  it three miles down the road gasoline car hasn't come up to temperature isn't it
• 1:14:47
  in its worst state of efficiency that's due to the catalytic converters and how
• 1:14:51
  they work unfortunately okay well are we solving that problem no so that's a fact
• 1:14:56
  that exists with ice vehicles So if that is a less efficient and more polluting
• 1:15:01
  environment, then it can't be better to go three miles down the road in an ice
• 1:15:05
  versus an electric that's not polluting.
• 1:15:07
  Again, it's differentiation between the whole life cycle versus this one minute
• 1:15:11
  of comparison of when the two are running.
• 1:15:13
  Agreed.
• 1:15:14
  And I think it goes back to what we've been saying many times over
• 1:15:17
  that hybrid is the answer because for that short little trip where you could
• 1:15:21
  run on the battery and the electric and the ice motor isn't running.
• 1:15:24
  And you take that little trip, but once you've exceeded that 30, 40 mile range and
• 1:15:29
  the car is warm and all that other stuff, you can switch over to gas and drive
• 1:15:32
  from here to Kansas without a problem.
• 1:15:34
  Either end of the pendulum isn't a hundred percent, right?
• 1:15:37
  That middle ground is hybrid, which we've talked about before.
• 1:15:40
  Toyota is sticking to that.
• 1:15:41
  They're saying that's the way to go.
• 1:15:43
  Again, interesting discussion.
• 1:15:45
  It's seems to be constantly changing.
• 1:15:47
  It's a bit of shifting sands, but there's another development that
• 1:15:50
  came out of some other research, and this came from car driver, and this
• 1:15:54
  is part of our reinvent the wheel section sponsored by ESC carbon wheels.
• 1:15:58
  Hyundai came to the table and said they were able to add
• 1:16:01
  more range to their vehicles by reducing the size of the wheels.
• 1:16:06
  Now think about that for a minute.
• 1:16:07
  Wheels have been getting bigger and bigger and bigger for years.
• 1:16:10
  The new Ioniq 5 is on like 21 inch wheels.
• 1:16:14
  I mean, they look ginormous.
• 1:16:15
  They're borrowed off of the big Genesis, like G80 sedan or whatever.
• 1:16:20
  It's the same style and everything.
• 1:16:21
  And they decided, you know, let's put a 19 inch wheel on, which is still large.
• 1:16:25
  By a lot of standards and they gained 16 miles of range.
• 1:16:31
  I mean, don't we know this already?
• 1:16:32
  Haven't we known this information for decades?
• 1:16:35
  It's why econoboxes come with skinny ass tires and they're 15s, not
• 1:16:41
  22, 10 inch wide wheels and tires that are more rolling resistance.
• 1:16:45
  Oh yeah.
• 1:16:45
  There's a lot of things that go into the simple design of those wheels, the
• 1:16:50
  rotating mass, the weight, the width.
• 1:16:52
  All those kinds of things.
• 1:16:53
  I just think it's funny that they just put pen to paper and said, look, guys,
• 1:16:57
  we can pick up more range, more distance.
• 1:16:59
  It's more efficient if we just put smaller wheels.
• 1:17:01
  And then I started to wonder, 19s again are still pretty big.
• 1:17:04
  What if they went down to 17s back to something that used to be huge?
• 1:17:09
  My spinners wouldn't look as good at 17.
• 1:17:11
  Oh, that's very true.
• 1:17:12
  Yeah, can't have that.
• 1:17:13
  But let's just say they went down from 21 to 19.
• 1:17:16
  They lost two inches.
• 1:17:17
  They went from 19 to 17.
• 1:17:19
  Maybe they doubled over again, 32 miles of extra range by going to a 17 inch wheel.
• 1:17:24
  Think about it.
• 1:17:25
  That's incredible.
• 1:17:26
  I wouldn't have anything much bigger than a 17 and 18 at the most on the street.
• 1:17:30
  Anyway, you're going to bend those things every two minutes
• 1:17:32
  in the way these trash roads are.
• 1:17:34
  Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Low profile tires are just, it's a risk every time you go out for sure.
• 1:17:39
  You're not going to put balloon tires on no 19 inch, it's going to look stupid.
• 1:17:43
  Teslagate.
• 1:17:48
  Yay, Tesla!
• 1:17:49
  Let's probably go take a break for 10 minutes.
• 1:17:54
  That's good.
• 1:17:54
  Go get some water.
• 1:17:56
  Get refreshed.
• 1:17:57
  Let me know when you're done.
• 1:17:59
  Ha ha ha!
• 1:18:00
  Where do we start?
• 1:18:01
  She pulled out a little stepladder so she could get on her soapbox.
• 1:18:04
  Hey, whatever.
• 1:18:05
  I'm gonna keep it light and keep it airy.
• 1:18:07
  They write their own material.
• 1:18:09
  But in news, if you're interested...
• 1:18:11
  We've been waiting to pull the plug and get yourself an EV.
• 1:18:15
  The Tesla Model 3 Refresh is here.
• 1:18:19
  Unveiled, new design, unexpected features.
• 1:18:21
  Like who needs turn signal levers?
• 1:18:24
  BMW owners.
• 1:18:29
  Instead, you can push little buttons on your steering wheel
• 1:18:32
  to activate your turn signals.
• 1:18:33
  Not only that, there's some other cool features like putting the
• 1:18:37
  car in park, reverse, or other various unnamed driver controls
• 1:18:41
  that you'll use the touchscreen for.
• 1:18:44
  Because the more you're not looking in front of you and reaching
• 1:18:47
  for crap in menus, it's much better than a traditional lever.
• 1:18:51
  that you instinctively know how to grab and can just flick with a finger.
• 1:18:56
  Much better to blindly be reaching.
• 1:18:58
  Oh wait, but you would only do that because it's an autopilot.
• 1:19:01
  But wait, it's an autopilot so you don't need these buttons or levers anyway.
• 1:19:05
  So we're just the ones that are wrong.
• 1:19:07
  And then they said they were introducing their version of a bliss system,
• 1:19:11
  which is the blind spot indication.
• 1:19:13
  I was like, wait, it didn't have that?
• 1:19:14
  That's been standard on cars for like 10 years.
• 1:19:17
  You're just getting this now?
• 1:19:18
  It has to have it.
• 1:19:19
  I read that they were adding it.
• 1:19:21
  How special.
• 1:19:22
  That's how they get to raise the price on the Model 3 again,
• 1:19:24
  because they added that stuff.
• 1:19:25
  Actually, at least in China, the new Model 3 is going to cost you 12 percent more.
• 1:19:30
  You get heated seats for that?
• 1:19:31
  It's a subscription.
• 1:19:34
  So is that before or after they lowered the price 5 percent and the stocks tanked?
• 1:19:37
  Yeah, that's all interlaced.
• 1:19:39
  They lowered their prices, their stocks went down, and bailed the Model 3.
• 1:19:42
  Who knows, who cares, right?
• 1:19:43
  That was already a couple weeks ago.
• 1:19:45
  I think now their stocks have like soared on the expectation of, I
• 1:19:49
  forget what, it's always on the expectation of The Cybertruck.
• 1:19:51
  Mana falling from the sky, I don't know.
• 1:19:53
  But speaking of things falling, the Model Y, there's only I think
• 1:19:57
  one reporting of this so far.
• 1:20:00
  So one reporting does not make An issue.
• 1:20:03
  However, this person reported that they were going through their frunk for some
• 1:20:08
  reason, so they were taking stuff out, and then saw cracks in the aluminum
• 1:20:13
  of the front end of the Model Y, and it's all, I guess, cast one piece.
• 1:20:18
  So that was very disturbing to them that they would see these fissures
• 1:20:22
  on their front end and were obviously subsequently worried about the structural
• 1:20:26
  integrity of their car to which I believe Tesla was like, nah, it's fine.
• 1:20:30
  Or whatever repair shop they took it to.
• 1:20:34
  Didn't seem very stressed about it.
• 1:20:35
  Cause these things are probably normal for cracks and the metallurgy of your vehicle.
• 1:20:40
  Nonetheless, this does not make a crisis.
• 1:20:43
  However, it was reported by one owner.
• 1:20:45
  I'm going to side with Tesla.
• 1:20:47
  For the first time ever on this show and say, you know what?
• 1:20:50
  It's probably okay.
• 1:20:52
  Because how many Mark four Volkswagen plastic fiberglass K members have broken
• 1:20:58
  over the years, just looking at them, the whole front end of that car is plastic.
• 1:21:02
  That holds up the lights and the grill and all that stuff.
• 1:21:04
  So that's not a surprise to me that somebody is driving around
• 1:21:08
  with a crack cross member.
• 1:21:09
  What surprised me is that it's made out of cast aluminum.
• 1:21:13
  That sounds like a bad idea.
• 1:21:15
  What I didn't understand was this just a K member across the front or
• 1:21:19
  is the whole front end one piece?
• 1:21:21
  That was unclear as well.
• 1:21:23
  And I went to Home Depot to see if I could find a replacement.
• 1:21:26
  And it was not available.
• 1:21:27
  I was in the plumbing section though.
• 1:21:29
  Gorilla glue, don't you?
• 1:21:31
  Oh yeah, yeah, JB Weld, take care of all of it, no problem.
• 1:21:34
  Yeah.
• 1:21:34
  Little epoxy.
• 1:21:35
  We talked about mansions earlier, didn't we?
• 1:21:37
  We did, and now Tesla's under federal investigation.
• 1:21:40
  Again.
• 1:21:41
  For allegedly using company resources to build Elon Musk a house, which...
• 1:21:47
  That all part didn't bother me.
• 1:21:48
  What bothered me was an article from a while ago where I thought he went on a
• 1:21:53
  soapbox of his own saying how he doesn't need to live in a mansion and he lives
• 1:21:57
  in like a one bedroom shack trailer because that's all he needs in life.
• 1:22:02
  So what is he doing building a mansion?
• 1:22:03
  I mean maybe for his like 18 kids that he's racking up.
• 1:22:06
  with multiple people, but wasn't he on that mission to build like the Tesla
• 1:22:10
  house, which was some sort of derivative of a trailer and you know, everything
• 1:22:14
  has a 30, 000 price tag, like all Tesla start out as, but we talked about that
• 1:22:18
  like a bunch of drive throughs ago.
• 1:22:19
  And it's a picture of Elon with his hard hat on.
• 1:22:22
  And where is this mansion being built?
• 1:22:24
  I don't know.
• 1:22:24
  Probably in Texas.
• 1:22:25
  Cause that's where he moved on the moon on Mars.
• 1:22:29
  That's why it's costing so much.
• 1:22:31
  And why there's such an investigation because he's having it built on Mars.
• 1:22:34
  Well, if that's the case, then I totally condone this.
• 1:22:37
  Please use more funds.
• 1:22:38
  Weren't they moving away from Texas again?
• 1:22:40
  They're doing across the country stuff?
• 1:22:42
  No, because the Gigafactory that they built is in Austin, Texas,
• 1:22:45
  so that stays, but they did, I think, reopen the Palo Alto office.
• 1:22:50
  And then wanted some of the engineers to go back there after he forcibly
• 1:22:53
  made the engineers move because of the whole work remote thing.
• 1:22:57
  And then he gets in trouble for putting a big Tesla sign on the roof
• 1:23:00
  of the house that he's building?
• 1:23:02
  Well, that's what he did with Twitter and the X, right?
• 1:23:05
  So I'm guessing it's going to follow suit.
• 1:23:07
  It'll say Musk.
• 1:23:08
  Help us get off Twitter.
• 1:23:10
  Follow us on threads.
• 1:23:12
  Once we've doubled our numbers, then I will gladly delete our Twitter account
• 1:23:16
  because I'm so done with all that.
• 1:23:17
  Ooh, the Cybertruck is coming.
• 1:23:19
  It's coming for real this time, right?
• 1:23:20
  Okay, whatever.
• 1:23:21
  However, I guess there was somebody on Reddit posted a picture.
• 1:23:24
  A couple that were on a trailer going somewhere.
• 1:23:26
  Who knows?
• 1:23:26
  Whatever.
• 1:23:27
  There was duct tape on the front.
• 1:23:30
  I don't even know how to call the panels on this trapezoid.
• 1:23:33
  It's like the end of the fender where it would meet the bumper, except
• 1:23:36
  it's like a jagged piece, because everything's made with like blocks.
• 1:23:40
  So there's duct tape across that seam, where there would normally be a panel gap.
• 1:23:44
  There's duct tape.
• 1:23:45
  Who knows why?
• 1:23:46
  There's no explanation.
• 1:23:47
  The only time that would be acceptable for me is if that was the racing
• 1:23:51
  version of the Tesla Cybertruck.
• 1:23:52
  Can I give you, it's some gaffer's tape there to like seal up all the cracks?
• 1:23:56
  Yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:23:57
  The rear shop, there's no duct tape, but they were still compelled to show it.
• 1:24:00
  You remember, I think I made a comment a while back, because this thing is fucking
• 1:24:04
  stainless steel, whatever the hell, aluminum stainless steel bullshit, and I
• 1:24:08
  said, your stainless steel appliances, you ever touched your fridge a couple times
• 1:24:13
  or your dishwasher and it looks like ass because your fingerprints are all over it?
• 1:24:17
  Do you see the back of this thing?
• 1:24:20
  This thing looks like ass.
• 1:24:22
  Like.
• 1:24:23
  Is that what every panel is gonna look like?
• 1:24:25
  This thing looks so smudged and dirty and gross.
• 1:24:29
  It looks nasty.
• 1:24:30
  You can be freaking polishing this thing constantly.
• 1:24:33
  Maybe that's part of the master plan and maybe Elon's
• 1:24:36
  bought a car detailing service.
• 1:24:37
  No, it's to fully realize that adage, that cliche when people
• 1:24:43
  say they're polishing a turd.
• 1:24:46
  If I wanted my car to look like it had throw up all over
• 1:24:49
  it, oh my gosh, I can't wait.
• 1:24:50
  Can't wait.
• 1:24:51
  The whole thing is ugly.
• 1:24:52
  I mean, there's all these articles even that Tesla engineers are designing
• 1:24:56
  another truck because they hate the Cybertruck, they think it's awful.
• 1:25:00
  It's not the design that they wanted.
• 1:25:02
  It is awful.
• 1:25:03
  It looks like ass.
• 1:25:05
  It's stupid and it's big.
• 1:25:06
  It's useless.
• 1:25:08
  I don't get it.
• 1:25:08
  People only like this thing because it's Tesla and it's different.
• 1:25:11
  Like, you have no sense of style?
• 1:25:14
  I'm sorry.
• 1:25:15
  An eight year old would probably design something better with crayon.
• 1:25:18
  No, you could design a Cybertruck using original Legos.
• 1:25:23
  Only the blocks and slopes from like the 60s and make a better
• 1:25:27
  looking truck than this thing.
• 1:25:28
  I'm telling you.
• 1:25:29
  Ugh.
• 1:25:29
  At any rate, there has been some rollover testing done with
• 1:25:34
  the new Cybertruck as well.
• 1:25:35
  Personally have to say I was pretty impressed with how it
• 1:25:38
  held up in a rollover test.
• 1:25:39
  It's trapezoidal shape does okay, I suppose.
• 1:25:42
  They said the interior was completely still intact,
• 1:25:45
  which I guess I could see it.
• 1:25:47
  I mean, sure.
• 1:25:47
  How were the panel gaps though?
• 1:25:49
  Effed.
• 1:25:49
  Foobarred, I think.
• 1:25:51
  Speaking of things foobarred, this wheel cover flying off in traffic?
• 1:25:55
  Just like the windshield wiper.
• 1:25:57
  They must have thought they had a new revolutionary way to attach a hubcap,
• 1:26:02
  and clearly it hasn't panned out because it shot off on the highway.
• 1:26:06
  Well, what's hilarious about this is if you look at the shape of the hubcap
• 1:26:10
  for the Cybertruck, It's a ninja star.
• 1:26:12
  So when that thing hits you like a skillsaw blade, you're going to have
• 1:26:17
  it coming out of the front of your car.
• 1:26:18
  It's going to cut your radiator.
• 1:26:19
  Like you are so done.
• 1:26:21
  Or if that thing goes through the windshield, it's going
• 1:26:23
  to be like mortal combat.
• 1:26:25
  You know what you say?
• 1:26:26
  Mortal combat.
• 1:26:27
  There's probably a mode in the cyber truck.
• 1:26:30
  That's like free new gym and it shoots the hubcap off into traffic.
• 1:26:35
  Open butthole.
• 1:26:38
  Oh Lord.
• 1:26:39
  Well.
• 1:26:39
  Now that my expectations are fully lowered, I don't think Danny's going
• 1:26:43
  to sing for us like Brad does, so we'll just kind of, we'll go with it.
• 1:26:47
  You want to least follow us?
• 1:26:48
  My voice is a little lower right now, I think, but I don't think I could actually
• 1:26:51
  get through it, so I'm not going to try.
• 1:26:53
  You know who else wasn't able to get through it and they didn't even try?
• 1:26:56
  All the people that were stuck at Burning Man.
• 1:26:58
  I believe who made it out, I want to say Danica Patrick made it out,
• 1:27:02
  using those NASCAR skills, baby.
• 1:27:04
  Does she have dirt track background?
• 1:27:06
  Yes, I believe so.
• 1:27:07
  There you go.
• 1:27:08
  She knew how to do it.
• 1:27:09
  She got out of there.
• 1:27:10
  There were some of the funniest stuff that got stuck.
• 1:27:14
  Trying to get out of the mudslide, and even the best all wheel drive pickup truck
• 1:27:18
  number one selling Ford Toughen America.
• 1:27:22
  Up to their doors and mud, not going anywhere.
• 1:27:25
  Subarus, you name it, it comes down to something simple.
• 1:27:28
  If you don't have the right tires, doesn't matter the conditions.
• 1:27:31
  You're not going anywhere.
• 1:27:33
  You can have quattro, you can have asymmetrical all wheel drive.
• 1:27:37
  You can have.
• 1:27:38
  F 150, the Jeep, it doesn't matter.
• 1:27:41
  If you got the wrong tires, you're not going anywhere.
• 1:27:43
  And most passenger vehicles are not designed for catastrophic
• 1:27:46
  earth events like this.
• 1:27:48
  It is what it is.
• 1:27:49
  I think it's hilarious when you look through and see all the crazy
• 1:27:51
  cars that got stuck and how they got stuck trying to leave Burning Man.
• 1:27:55
  I mean, all you would have to do is probably walk 10 feet, have your
• 1:27:58
  feet suctioned into the ground and realize this was a horrible idea.
• 1:28:02
  And not bothered to get in your car.
• 1:28:04
  The best one is when you go through the slideshow of this and
• 1:28:07
  you see the Jeep Wrangler and how bad they got that thing stuck.
• 1:28:11
  It's pretty awesome.
• 1:28:12
  Oh boy.
• 1:28:13
  You know, earlier we talked about Honda and jailbreaking the Integra and getting
• 1:28:17
  more power out of it and things like that.
• 1:28:19
  This next one really has me scratching my head.
• 1:28:22
  An all wheel drive conversion kit for cars like the Civic and other Hondas that
• 1:28:28
  you enjoy that are front wheel drive.
• 1:28:30
  I look at this.
• 1:28:31
  It scares me and I don't understand how it works.
• 1:28:33
  Why don't you just buy an all wheel drive car then?
• 1:28:36
  Because how many all wheel drive Hondas exist other than the CRV and the HRV?
• 1:28:40
  Buy a different car.
• 1:28:42
  Apparently all this stuff bolts up to the existing rear suspension
• 1:28:47
  that's in the place of a lot of the front wheel drive Hondas.
• 1:28:50
  I don't know that Honda intended this in the first place.
• 1:28:54
  Granted, if you've ever looked at the rear diff on a CR V or
• 1:28:58
  an HR V, they're not that big.
• 1:28:59
  So maybe this is doable.
• 1:29:01
  Generally, when something like this happens, like let's
• 1:29:03
  say you take an Audi, right?
• 1:29:04
  The floor pans and all that kind of stuff are kind of predisposed,
• 1:29:08
  especially in the older days, front wheel drive, all wheel drive versions.
• 1:29:11
  They kind of had the swap.
• 1:29:15
  Although you're to your point.
• 1:29:16
  Just buy the quattro and be done with it.
• 1:29:18
  Why go through the hassle of converting the car?
• 1:29:20
  But the thing that kind of came to mind for 5, 000 bucks.
• 1:29:23
  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:29:24
  This kit costs five.
• 1:29:26
  You can't even buy a good suspension for 5, 000, but you can buy
• 1:29:29
  this kit for under five grand.
• 1:29:32
  Yes.
• 1:29:32
  And then add weight to your car to make it slower than it was as a
• 1:29:36
  front wheel drive and handle worse.
• 1:29:37
  So either this is some cheap ass shit that doesn't work, or we are severely
• 1:29:41
  being overcharged on other components of a vehicle that are standard.
• 1:29:45
  Well, you know, if it was 1930, it would only cost 85.
• 1:29:48
  No.
• 1:29:48
  And here are the cars that these bolt up to, again, for five grand.
• 1:29:52
  You know, when you're all in.
• 1:29:53
  92 to 95 Honda Civic, 94 to 01 Integra, 96 to 2000 Civic, and 88 to 91 CR X.
• 1:30:01
  I didn't know there was a huge demand for converting those cars to all wheel drive.
• 1:30:05
  They are fantastic front wheel drive handlers.
• 1:30:08
  They're like little go karts.
• 1:30:09
  Why would you want to do this?
• 1:30:11
  Because you don't actually know how to set up your CRX because you
• 1:30:13
  don't know anything about them.
• 1:30:15
  And so you think this is going to help you for the massive amount of torque.
• 1:30:18
  That those four cylinders put out that you really need the extra
• 1:30:21
  grip to put it to the ground.
• 1:30:22
  Let's do a Safari Civic.
• 1:30:25
  See, now that, I can get behind that.
• 1:30:27
  That makes sense.
• 1:30:27
  I mean, it's been done with 911s and Golfs and other stuff.
• 1:30:30
  So yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:31
  Off road Civic.
• 1:30:32
  That makes sense.
• 1:30:33
  I understand it now.
• 1:30:34
  It's the opposite of low riding.
• 1:30:36
  It's, it's lifting.
• 1:30:36
  Next big trend.
• 1:30:37
  You watch this space.
• 1:30:39
  Ah, alright guys.
• 1:30:40
  Quick lightning round question.
• 1:30:42
  Super Mario Brothers, Fast 10, or Gran Turismo?
• 1:30:46
  It's Friday night movie night.
• 1:30:48
  Which one do you choose?
• 1:30:49
  Well, I haven't seen the Gran Turismo one.
• 1:30:51
  Well, I haven't seen Fast 10 either.
• 1:30:53
  So I'd probably have to choose one of those just for the
• 1:30:54
  fact that I haven't seen them.
• 1:30:56
  So which one do you think you would get the most enjoyment out of having
• 1:30:59
  seen the trailers for all of them?
• 1:31:01
  Probably Super Mario Brothers.
• 1:31:04
  Danny P, it's movie night.
• 1:31:05
  Which one are you picking?
• 1:31:06
  I think it's got to be Fast 10 just to see how the family have evolved.
• 1:31:10
  Indescribably.
• 1:31:11
  Nobody pick Gran Turismo.
• 1:31:13
  I don't think I would pick it either.
• 1:31:14
  I've heard mixed reviews about that movie.
• 1:31:16
  Honestly, I will end up watching it, but I am going in with low expectations.
• 1:31:21
  If it shows up free somewhere, I will watch it full stop.
• 1:31:24
  Taking a little bit more serious note, but also in the vein of lowered
• 1:31:29
  expectations, and we're going to do a follow up to these particular articles
• 1:31:32
  as we do a crossover with Carolyn Ford and Tracy Bannon from TechTransforms
• 1:31:37
  in October, I want to talk for just a moment about privacy issues in these new
• 1:31:44
  vehicles, and I want to remind folks.
• 1:31:46
  Look at the EULA.
• 1:31:47
  That's the end user license agreement before you buy your next new car
• 1:31:52
  because there are reports saying that companies are able to collect all sorts
• 1:31:57
  of data, not just facial recognition data from the internal cameras,
• 1:32:00
  things like health status, immigration status, sexual activity, all sorts
• 1:32:06
  of crazy stuff coming from the car.
• 1:32:09
  And you're like, wait, what?
• 1:32:11
  We've got a couple of these articles in the show notes that you can check out.
• 1:32:13
  The reports came from.
• 1:32:15
  Some of the more interesting places, not normally where I get news about cars,
• 1:32:19
  but we do expand upon these thoughts in an upcoming crossover episode.
• 1:32:23
  Really scary stuff out there in some of these new cars.
• 1:32:26
  There are some cars on this list that you're guaranteed not have
• 1:32:29
  any sexual activity if you own.
• 1:32:31
  So that Dacia, for example, that's a criminal record car.
• 1:32:34
  It's definitely a criminal record car in the opposite of whatever
• 1:32:38
  a magnet for the opposite sex is.
• 1:32:41
  And on that last month, we reintroduced rich people.
• 1:32:45
  We have a couple of this month, too.
• 1:32:46
  This is exciting.
• 1:32:47
  As we get closer to the holidays, we will probably see more and more
• 1:32:51
  rich people things popping up.
• 1:32:52
  Dan, what's going to be on your holiday shopping list here very soon?
• 1:32:56
  But you know what?
• 1:32:56
  When I go camping, I want to get away from everything.
• 1:33:00
  You know, I want to enjoy the wild outside.
• 1:33:02
  But LG have made it much more easy for me to catch up with the latest Netflix show.
• 1:33:07
  They've developed a suitcase, which is a 27 inch screen TV that supports
• 1:33:12
  AirPlay, supports screen monitoring.
• 1:33:15
  So just when you thought you've escaped it all, LG are there to make sure that
• 1:33:19
  you stay connected to the real world.
• 1:33:20
  What's the low, low bargain Best Buy price of this?
• 1:33:24
  Particular suitcase television to you, sir.
• 1:33:27
  Just shy of a thousand dollars, you know, that's not unreasonable.
• 1:33:31
  That's expensive for 27 inch.
• 1:33:33
  Yeah.
• 1:33:33
  But how many 27 inches can you tuck away in a Pelican case and carry
• 1:33:38
  with you to your next campsite?
• 1:33:39
  I like the concept of being able to.
• 1:33:42
  Transport the TV, but I wouldn't be bringing it on my wilderness excursion.
• 1:33:46
  I also don't know where I would need to transport it to in general.
• 1:33:50
  It goes landscape and portrait, so I don't know why you would want, maybe Instagram.
• 1:33:54
  I want to watch Instagram at scale.
• 1:33:56
  If it doubled as a computer monitor, then I could see it being advantageous
• 1:34:01
  for like motorsports events.
• 1:34:02
  Maybe at an autocross, a great way to like tuck it away, have it stored in a trailer.
• 1:34:07
  Tailgating.
• 1:34:08
  Tailgating.
• 1:34:09
  Yes.
• 1:34:09
  Would be useful.
• 1:34:10
  Tailgating, you're in the parking lot of the game and you're watching
• 1:34:13
  pre game coverage in the parking lot.
• 1:34:16
  How many of these new big SUVs have TVs in them that you could just jack your
• 1:34:20
  Roku into and do the same thing though?
• 1:34:22
  They should do a Westphalia edition.
• 1:34:24
  Yes!
• 1:34:24
  Oh, then it's okay.
• 1:34:26
  Does that justify that?
• 1:34:27
  100 percent it's done.
• 1:34:28
  If it comes in the Westphalia, I'm all for it.
• 1:34:30
  It's all good.
• 1:34:31
  That wouldn't be a bad idea because if you're taking your Westphalia on
• 1:34:34
  a road trip and in some nights you're not really where you need to be, you
• 1:34:38
  would have some form of entertainment.
• 1:34:39
  You know who's not going to be able to use this folding suitcase LG television?
• 1:34:45
  The gentleman that purchased a Bugatti Bolide and stripped it
• 1:34:49
  down to its carbon fiber monocoque and turned it into an ExoCar.
• 1:34:53
  What I appreciate about this.
• 1:34:55
  Is being able to run the car like this But what I don't appreciate about this is
• 1:35:01
  there's only a handful of bully days out there Why just buy an exocet buy an aerial
• 1:35:05
  atom like I don't understand He could have saved a lot of money and bought that land
• 1:35:09
  speed streamliner from bring a trailer.
• 1:35:11
  It has the same front end Yeah, it does look like something
• 1:35:14
  out of star wars though.
• 1:35:15
  It is wild without the body work on it I got a chance to see the Bolide at Le Mans
• 1:35:20
  when they were running test laps with it.
• 1:35:22
  I'm super excited to see if they actually campaign it next year or the
• 1:35:26
  year after, you know, alongside of the Lamborghini and some of the other
• 1:35:29
  cars that are coming to the races.
• 1:35:30
  What compels people to do stuff like this?
• 1:35:33
  You spend four and a half million bucks and then you strip your car down?
• 1:35:37
  Maybe he wasn't allowed Hot Wheels as a kid.
• 1:35:39
  But it also made me wonder how hard it is to do this conversion.
• 1:35:42
  Maybe it isn't.
• 1:35:43
  So this thing is stripped down blah blah blah exoskeleton.
• 1:35:47
  It weighs 2, 700 pounds.
• 1:35:49
  A full bodied Bullyday weighs 3, 200 pounds.
• 1:35:54
  500 pounds.
• 1:35:54
  All of that stripping and you only save 500 pounds and you know what else
• 1:35:58
  you lost in the process not only did you lose 500 pounds aerodynamics Yeah,
• 1:36:02
  all of that is gone ground effects.
• 1:36:04
  It handles like ass He should have bought a lucid sapphire.
• 1:36:07
  That's the ticket right there.
• 1:36:09
  There we go.
• 1:36:09
  That is terrible It's time to go down south and talk
• 1:36:13
  about alligators That's right,
• 1:36:30
  what have you brought us this time.
• 1:36:32
  People don't do things by halves in L.
• 1:36:33
  A., do they?
• 1:36:34
  So this thief, he stole a car from one of the posh areas of L.
• 1:36:38
  A., but it wasn't any car.
• 1:36:40
  He stole a Rolls Royce Phantom and took the finest L.
• 1:36:44
  A.
• 1:36:44
  PD, and I'm assuming maybe some chips, on a high speed chase through L.
• 1:36:48
  A.
• 1:36:48
  So he's rolling in his, uh, Phantom, giving the police a run for his money.
• 1:36:52
  This was on the Rob Report.
• 1:36:54
  How fast do these go?
• 1:36:55
  They're like the length of a school bus.
• 1:36:57
  They can't handle that He probably couldn't hear the police.
• 1:37:00
  He had that 27 inch suitcase TV going.
• 1:37:03
  Well, his chauffeur was actually stealing the car.
• 1:37:05
  He rode in the back, but he got away with it.
• 1:37:09
  That's the best part.
• 1:37:10
  How did he lose the cops?
• 1:37:12
  How did he get away with stealing the car?
• 1:37:14
  That's insane.
• 1:37:15
  They didn't catch him.
• 1:37:16
  According to this.
• 1:37:17
  They did not.
• 1:37:17
  The savvy thief took advantage of the buffer they were given as the chase
• 1:37:21
  progressed deeper into downtown.
• 1:37:23
  Damn traffic.
• 1:37:23
  They eventually pulled into a parking garage near the L.
• 1:37:26
  A.
• 1:37:26
  Grand Hotel, and with the vehicle no longer visible, the police were forced
• 1:37:29
  to stand down while a department helicopter hovering above tried
• 1:37:32
  to figure out what was going on.
• 1:37:34
  When they finally returned to the structure, the vehicle was discovered,
• 1:37:36
  but the driver was nowhere to be seen.
• 1:37:38
  Classic TV shit right there.
• 1:37:40
  Just like a scene from Gran Turismo.
• 1:37:42
  It's like something off the blacklist.
• 1:37:44
  Meanwhile, in other parts of sunny America, In our great state of Nebraska,
• 1:37:49
  which we don't hear very often about, the picture is worth a thousand words.
• 1:37:54
  All you gotta do is just look at the picture, and you're good.
• 1:37:56
  Because a dude chopped the roof, opened up the passenger side cockpit
• 1:38:01
  area, and put his nine million pound steer In the passenger seat, proceeded
• 1:38:08
  to transport it down the road.
• 1:38:11
  This is like a Top Gear special, isn't it?
• 1:38:13
  This thing is like a what?
• 1:38:14
  Well, like a Lumina?
• 1:38:15
  What is this thing?
• 1:38:16
  It's a Ford of some sort.
• 1:38:18
  It's a Crown Victoria.
• 1:38:19
  But the last plate says boy and dog.
• 1:38:21
  These are clearly not a boy and a dog.
• 1:38:23
  No, he's got like the matching horns.
• 1:38:26
  On the front, too, like Yosemite Sam.
• 1:38:29
  This is unreal!
• 1:38:30
  But I wanna know what modifications are made to the suspension on that side of
• 1:38:35
  the car because that thing is dead flat!
• 1:38:38
  It is not sagging!
• 1:38:39
  That bull must weigh more than the car, probably!
• 1:38:42
  The, uh, Richard Petty edition.
• 1:38:45
  Yeah, it is.
• 1:38:46
  You should have painted it blue.
• 1:38:47
  Damn, missed opportunity.
• 1:38:50
  I love the brush guard to the right of the bowl.
• 1:38:53
  It looks like something off of a barn or a stable or something.
• 1:38:55
  This is nuts.
• 1:38:56
  I thought that was a ladder, so you could get on top of the bowl and ride.
• 1:39:00
  Maybe that's comforting to the bull having that.
• 1:39:03
  If it was Florida, the vehicle would have been stopped and they
• 1:39:05
  would have fled on the bull into the swamp, never to be found again.
• 1:39:10
  Much like the Rolls Royce that disappeared in L.
• 1:39:12
  A.
• 1:39:12
  The cops would have been just befuddled.
• 1:39:14
  But I love the title of this.
• 1:39:16
  Moving violation.
• 1:39:19
  I mean, if there was ever a pun to be had.
• 1:39:21
  The best part is I took the article from clickorlando.
• 1:39:25
  com, baby.
• 1:39:26
  Florida's reporting on it.
• 1:39:28
  Florida's reporting about Nebraska.
• 1:39:30
  Go and look at those guys.
• 1:39:32
  They're legit.
• 1:39:34
  Hey Nebraska, hold up here.
• 1:39:36
  What does that smell like?
• 1:39:38
  That's what I The bull.
• 1:39:39
  It's open air.
• 1:39:40
  It's got that farm fresh smell, you know?
• 1:39:43
  Maybe it was powered on methane.
• 1:39:45
  It's an alternative fuel vehicle.
• 1:39:48
  Suction to the back of the bull.
• 1:39:49
  Open butthole, bull!
• 1:39:51
  They just opened HOV lanes in Nebraska.
• 1:39:54
  This poor farmer was by himself.
• 1:39:56
  He needed a plus one.
• 1:39:57
  This was his answer.
• 1:39:59
  I figured it out.
• 1:39:59
  It's not an HOV lane.
• 1:40:01
  It's a hoove lane.
• 1:40:02
  Ha ha ha ha ha!
• 1:40:05
  Well, this next one, we're going to Indiana.
• 1:40:07
  And this is a public service announcement about the dangers of drug.
• 1:40:12
  Okay?
• 1:40:12
  Which from the guy's photo, it's obvious he was on meth.
• 1:40:16
  He was found under the influence of meth and marijuana and what this can do to
• 1:40:20
  you as a 51 year old man is think that you can get inside a Power Wheels jeep
• 1:40:25
  and then drive down the road at night.
• 1:40:27
  And it sounds like at first he was pulled over because the Power Wheels
• 1:40:30
  didn't have lights or reflectors.
• 1:40:33
  So he might have been able to get away with this shit if he
• 1:40:35
  had just had some basic safety features on this Power Wheels.
• 1:40:39
  Got to be clearing me.
• 1:40:40
  Public safety announcement.
• 1:40:42
  This is your brain.
• 1:40:43
  This is your brain on drugs.
• 1:40:46
  He must not weigh a lot, which he probably doesn't given the math.
• 1:40:48
  I was gonna say, as an adult, have you ever tried to ride a Power Wheels?
• 1:40:52
  Like, they will not move.
• 1:40:53
  Even the converted, like, 18 and 36 volt ones won't move.
• 1:40:56
  I wonder if this was a foot chase, or if they pursued them
• 1:41:00
  in the trooper mobile, you know?
• 1:41:01
  Pull over!
• 1:41:03
  Can you imagine the commotion this caused while some guys in a barbie pink jeep
• 1:41:13
  rising and driving a ditch now we're gonna go to florida oh boy because
• 1:41:17
  florida is not gonna be out done ever florida man hot wires excavator and
• 1:41:21
  then crashes it into walmart because what else would you do with it what
• 1:41:24
  else would you do with an excavator when you've stolen it and hot wired it You'd
• 1:41:29
  crash it on a Monday night into Walmart.
• 1:41:31
  Crashed it into the automotive service center, apparently he
• 1:41:34
  wanted to do an oil change.
• 1:41:36
  He was conscientious the lights were out on the excavator so he
• 1:41:40
  was going to replace the bulbs.
• 1:41:41
  And the blinker fluid.
• 1:41:43
  This is bizarre.
• 1:41:44
  But last but not least, to tie us into our British theme, Florida Man was
• 1:41:49
  arrested after trying to cross the Atlantic Ocean to get to merry old
• 1:41:54
  England in a hamster wheel vessel.
• 1:41:57
  So imagine the hamster wheel with, like, pontoon balloons inside of it,
• 1:42:02
  and this little metal cage, and he was gonna get across the rough and wild
• 1:42:07
  Atlantic, and he was gonna make it all the way over the pond to England.
• 1:42:11
  Why?
• 1:42:12
  Unbelievable!
• 1:42:12
  So somebody tested this.
• 1:42:15
  They thought this was a good idea.
• 1:42:17
  It probably works.
• 1:42:18
  But can you imagine?
• 1:42:20
  Forrest Gumping the whole way across the Atlantic in a hamster wheel.
• 1:42:26
  like out of Wacky Races.
• 1:42:27
  Like, this is unbelievable.
• 1:42:29
  I don't know what drugs this person also was on.
• 1:42:33
  Have to be on some.
• 1:42:34
  And when a balloon pops, then what happens?
• 1:42:37
  When they all pop and you just...
• 1:42:39
  Sink in your steel cage because there's nothing water tight about this.
• 1:42:43
  No.
• 1:42:44
  He's clearly not playing with the full deck here.
• 1:42:46
  Right.
• 1:42:46
  Because he refused to step off his vessel and threaten to kill himself
• 1:42:50
  saying he had a bum on board.
• 1:42:52
  He was an international waters.
• 1:42:53
  He did not have to step off at that point.
• 1:42:56
  Was he cited with maritime law or it's how does this work?
• 1:43:00
  Is he considered a vessel?
• 1:43:01
  Does he have a call sign the hamster wheel?
• 1:43:03
  This is the h m s dumbass.
• 1:43:05
  Is that, is that what this is?
• 1:43:07
  Meth in action again coming to brick trailer next week.
• 1:43:11
  How far did he make it?
• 1:43:13
  He was found drifting not running miles 30 miles.
• 1:43:17
  Jeez South of new york.
• 1:43:19
  So already going the wrong headed back to florida.
• 1:43:21
  Wait, this isn't the first time he's tried to do this No, no, they found him 70
• 1:43:28
  miles somewhere georgia but in 2021 He was arrested and was rescued, tried to go from
• 1:43:35
  Florida to New York, and was found adrift 30 miles south of his departure point.
• 1:43:39
  So he didn't make it very far from Florida.
• 1:43:41
  Give him enough time and he'll invent a submarine next.
• 1:43:44
  Oh, you think?
• 1:43:44
  He tried it a time before in 2014.
• 1:43:47
  This was the third try.
• 1:43:49
  They say three times.
• 1:43:50
  Charm, right?
• 1:43:51
  I mean, here we are.
• 1:43:52
  Took him ten years to build this balloon contraption.
• 1:43:55
  Nope, still hasn't gotten it.
• 1:43:56
  I think Darwin had a theory on him.
• 1:43:59
  Except it didn't pan out.
• 1:44:00
  I guess next he'll do like the Up movie, and he'll just tie the balloons to
• 1:44:03
  his house and float over to England.
• 1:44:05
  When he gets there, he's got a place to live!
• 1:44:07
  This is also a testament to our educational system
• 1:44:09
  in this country because...
• 1:44:11
  Clearly, no understanding of oceans, roughness, it's whatever you want to
• 1:44:15
  call it, but also the temperature.
• 1:44:16
  Like, the Atlantic is effing cold, and you're in this, like, exposed open air,
• 1:44:22
  like, how do you think, never mind, and geography, because clearly you
• 1:44:26
  don't know how far away English is.
• 1:44:28
  This is awesome.
• 1:44:30
  With Florida leaving us with some awesome stories this month, it's
• 1:44:33
  time we go behind the pinball and talk about motorsports news.
• 1:44:37
  And I've actually been looking forward to this.
• 1:44:39
  Danny P coming from the Formula One world, talking with one of our
• 1:44:43
  resident subject matter experts.
• 1:44:44
  Let's talk about F1.
• 1:44:45
  What the hell's been going on?
• 1:44:46
  Where's the subject matter expert?
• 1:44:48
  Well, isn't it you and Brad normally?
• 1:44:50
  Allegedly.
• 1:44:51
  The last weekend I posted on Instagram and it was a picture
• 1:44:54
  of a flag with a marked safe from hearing the Dutch National Anthem.
• 1:44:58
  It was a weekend without a Formula One race, which meant that we didn't have to
• 1:45:02
  listen to the Dutch National Anthem again.
• 1:45:04
  But that man, Max Versappen, is actually being investigated by the French police.
• 1:45:08
  Oh, what'd he do?
• 1:45:09
  There were videos of him taking the latest Aston Martin 3 million car speeding.
• 1:45:14
  Ooh.
• 1:45:14
  I'm hoping that that would put points on his competition license
• 1:45:17
  as well as his driving license.
• 1:45:19
  Someone needs to slow him down.
• 1:45:20
  For sure.
• 1:45:21
  He's already shown us even in the virtual world that he liked
• 1:45:24
  speeding a little too much.
• 1:45:26
  No, he showed he's got some rage issues in the, or self control issues
• 1:45:30
  in the virtual racing incident.
• 1:45:31
  I did happen to watch the at least first half of the Zandvoort GP there in Holland.
• 1:45:38
  And it was exciting for a minute because of the variability of the weather.
• 1:45:42
  But then I felt like the track was short.
• 1:45:45
  It was tight, kind of reminded me of Canada in that
• 1:45:47
  respect and where everybody.
• 1:45:49
  Pitted and exited is sort of where they finished.
• 1:45:51
  I kind of felt like by the time all that circus happened, the race was
• 1:45:56
  pretty much a done deal at that point.
• 1:45:59
  So I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:46:00
  It wasn't exciting.
• 1:46:01
  I felt like the cars were too big for the track because it's such an
• 1:46:04
  old school track designed for the pre aero days and all the little
• 1:46:08
  Formula One cars of days gone by.
• 1:46:09
  So it was hard to watch, to be honest.
• 1:46:12
  And the lap times were like, what, a minute 20 or something like that.
• 1:46:14
  The rain definitely added a different element to it this
• 1:46:17
  time around, but For us in the U.
• 1:46:19
  S., we get up early to watch these races if we watch them live.
• 1:46:22
  For me, I end up falling asleep again.
• 1:46:24
  And Monza, how did that turn out?
• 1:46:26
  I heard good things about Ferrari.
• 1:46:28
  They were on the pole, and even Verstappen was impressed by Ferrari's ability.
• 1:46:33
  I think he was being polite with that comment.
• 1:46:35
  Fans are supposed to give you a home advantage, but Max did
• 1:46:37
  what no one else has been able to do, and he won 10 in a row.
• 1:46:40
  You know, I think there's Singapore, then Japan maybe, and he can win the
• 1:46:44
  World Championship by Japan, which is, I think, earlier than most seasons.
• 1:46:47
  There were some rumors floating around that he wanted Hamilton to be his
• 1:46:51
  teammate and join the team over Red Bull, but he's okay with Lando too?
• 1:46:56
  Is that what I'm hearing?
• 1:46:57
  Because Hamilton just renewed his contract for a couple more years at Mercedes?
• 1:47:00
  I read the same thing.
• 1:47:01
  It's interesting because it sounds like the Hamilton contract
• 1:47:04
  had been done a few months ago.
• 1:47:06
  But Mercedes always keep that cards close to their chest.
• 1:47:09
  They hadn't announced it.
• 1:47:10
  So then there were these rumors and there's also a lot of debate going
• 1:47:13
  on right now and between the Hamilton camp and the Verstappen camp in terms
• 1:47:17
  of it's arguments that Max hasn't got a competitor in the same way
• 1:47:21
  that maybe Lewis had in his team.
• 1:47:23
  So, you know, Max with Sergio that they're saying, and I
• 1:47:26
  think Sergio is a great driver.
• 1:47:27
  So, you know, I think you call that straight away, but they're saying
• 1:47:31
  that it's been easier for Max because he's far too superior compared to
• 1:47:34
  his teammate, but I don't agree, but yeah, who knows it's kind of
• 1:47:38
  getting into silly season right now.
• 1:47:39
  So, yeah, we could be seeing a few drivers change seats.
• 1:47:43
  We saw one driver change a seat and then broke his wrist.
• 1:47:46
  I was gonna say, Danny Rick is out!
• 1:47:48
  Brad goes out, Danny Rick goes out.
• 1:47:49
  I think there's some collusion there, as he would say.
• 1:47:53
  Definitely at home crying in his Wheaties.
• 1:47:55
  I mean, it's unfortunate for Danny Rick.
• 1:47:56
  I saw he had surgery on his hand and on his wrist and all that.
• 1:48:00
  Hopefully he gets back in the car.
• 1:48:02
  But that gave an opportunity for a rising test driver to jump in
• 1:48:06
  his seat and see what he could do.
• 1:48:08
  Another one of those situations where that was his job interview, right?
• 1:48:11
  And he needed to pull it off.
• 1:48:13
  It didn't play out so well for him.
• 1:48:14
  Unfortunately at Zandvoort is what it is, but yeah, this is Liam Lawson,
• 1:48:18
  who's the Red Bull junior driver.
• 1:48:20
  Being asked to do your job interview on a track where it's raining and it's last
• 1:48:25
  minute wasn't at the start of the weekend.
• 1:48:27
  Was it?
• 1:48:27
  I think Daniel Rick had done a few different runs, so it wasn't like he
• 1:48:30
  was getting into the car and he had time to go through those practice
• 1:48:34
  sessions and then do qualifying.
• 1:48:35
  He was literally in at the deep end, if you will.
• 1:48:38
  I think he represented himself pretty well.
• 1:48:40
  Brad's still home crying about that said not much to talk about in WRC.
• 1:48:47
  Since Brad's not here, we've been tag teaming back and forth throughout the
• 1:48:50
  season, you know, trying to get his opinion as a newbie to the sport, you
• 1:48:54
  and I, Danny are veterans to rally.
• 1:48:56
  So we could.
• 1:48:57
  Probably have an entire episode on that by itself.
• 1:48:59
  So we'll save it.
• 1:48:59
  We'll put a pin in it for now.
• 1:49:01
  The IMSA season is winding down.
• 1:49:03
  We're going to be at Petit Le Mans next month.
• 1:49:05
  So I'm looking forward to reporting on how the IMSA season is going to close.
• 1:49:09
  Seeing some of the cars that we saw at Le Mans again, in person, like
• 1:49:12
  the Porsche 963, the Cadillacs and others, and seeing how they finish
• 1:49:16
  out the year and the championship.
• 1:49:18
  On our British theme, I believe there is a British driver
• 1:49:21
  who's going to be racing there.
• 1:49:22
  And Mr.
• 1:49:22
  Jensen button, look out for him in the garage, 56 car you brought to
• 1:49:29
  the tables, some other racing news.
• 1:49:31
  Some things that we don't normally talk about, which is yeah.
• 1:49:34
  Motorbike racing, the motor America, which is the premier super bike.
• 1:49:38
  Race series there are other different types of bike series as part of motor
• 1:49:42
  america But the man jay ganye has won his third championship He's been unstoppable
• 1:49:47
  this year a bit like max verstappen But on a bike on two wheels instead of four there
• 1:49:51
  were glimmers of hope from bmw and also ducati But in the end, he did it again.
• 1:49:57
  So three in a row, it will be interesting to see what they can
• 1:50:00
  do to try and stop him next year, because he's just dominating.
• 1:50:03
  He's just a cut and above.
• 1:50:04
  He races in a team of two bikes and Cam Peterson is the South African
• 1:50:09
  who raced in his team with him.
• 1:50:10
  He had another wrist injury, lots of parallels between formula one, but he
• 1:50:14
  went out injured for the rest of the season, but the two riders that have
• 1:50:17
  been on him, Cam and also the new rider, neither of them been able to catch him.
• 1:50:21
  So he's got something more.
• 1:50:23
  Than the rest of the pack and his teammate.
• 1:50:26
  Big congratulations to Jake.
• 1:50:27
  Are they also Red Bull bikes?
• 1:50:29
  Just, I wanna see if there's a correlation there.
• 1:50:31
  . They're not.
• 1:50:31
  No fresh and lean.
• 1:50:33
  Okay, so more of those meal services than energy drink could be a correlation.
• 1:50:37
  Do you think he's.
• 1:50:38
  Going to be the next Valentino?
• 1:50:40
  Do you think he's as good as?
• 1:50:41
  Does he have the potential?
• 1:50:43
  I don't know.
• 1:50:43
  And the reason I don't know is last year he did a world superbike run.
• 1:50:48
  So I think he went off to Portugal, I think it was, and uh, got the chance
• 1:50:51
  to race in a world superbike race.
• 1:50:53
  And you don't just get launched in the deep end and you're
• 1:50:55
  able to perform always, right?
• 1:50:57
  But he didn't do as well as he could have done.
• 1:50:59
  So who knows, but he's definitely a talent.
• 1:51:01
  You don't win that series without being a talent.
• 1:51:04
  You don't win it.
• 1:51:04
  So dominatingly.
• 1:51:05
  Yeah.
• 1:51:06
  So who knows switching gears to the virtual world for a moment,
• 1:51:10
  Microsoft and turn 10, the producers of a Forza motor sports, we've been
• 1:51:14
  waiting quite a long time for what would be considered Forza eight.
• 1:51:18
  To hit the market.
• 1:51:19
  They did a recent reveal of some of the tracks that are going to be included
• 1:51:23
  in the latest version of Forza.
• 1:51:25
  Now they haven't said, are these replacing all the ones we've come
• 1:51:28
  accustomed to, these are just some of the ones that they were highlighting.
• 1:51:31
  It's not the full track list.
• 1:51:32
  We haven't got the full car list.
• 1:51:33
  And what really stuck out to me is they've introduced.
• 1:51:37
  Something spectacular for the American audience, which
• 1:51:40
  is a highly technical track.
• 1:51:42
  One of my top five favorites in the country, they're going to add mid Ohio
• 1:51:47
  to the track list for Forza Motorsport 8.
• 1:51:49
  So I'm really looking forward to playing that in the virtual
• 1:51:53
  world on the Microsoft console.
• 1:51:55
  So that looks like a lot of fun.
• 1:51:56
  Forza Motorsport 8 again.
• 1:51:57
  They've been kicking that can down a road for a while in terms of
• 1:52:00
  when it's going to be released.
• 1:52:01
  But hopefully this fall or into the holiday season, we can add it to
• 1:52:05
  our shopping list, maybe alongside of some new Xbox X's to go with it.
• 1:52:09
  Super excited to see Forza Motorsport finally coming to the table this year.
• 1:52:13
  Don't think I'm breaking any NDAs.
• 1:52:15
  I was a very early beta tester of this game.
• 1:52:18
  When I used to work at Microsoft quite regularly, they would ask for
• 1:52:21
  people to test early versions of the game, give feedback on the experience,
• 1:52:26
  give feedback on the environment.
• 1:52:28
  So I did a couple of sessions, which were like an hour long.
• 1:52:31
  You're driving a track and you're giving feedback.
• 1:52:33
  And it was Laguna Seca when I did it.
• 1:52:35
  I can't remember which car it was in.
• 1:52:36
  So, uh, I don't think my name will be in the credits, but, uh, who knows.
• 1:52:40
  Well, we'll be looking for it.
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• 1:53:20
  They're going to be doing an international real wheel.
• 1:53:23
  Film festival celebrating historical racing documentaries at the Watkins
• 1:53:27
  Glen theater, starting at 5 PM on November the 2nd, which leads
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  into two days of the Michael R.
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  Argettsinger symposium, where we'll be there live streaming with the
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  about all sorts of interesting stories throughout motorsports.
• 1:53:44
  And we'll be rerunning a lot of those stories on break fix.
• 1:53:47
  As you come accustomed to every month, we put out stories from the IMRRC.
• 1:53:50
  So look forward to that.
• 1:53:52
  As they close out the year.
• 1:53:53
  And we do want to wish them a happy 25th anniversary now that we're
• 1:53:58
  officially in the month of September.
• 1:53:59
  So congratulations to the IMRRC.
• 1:54:01
  Here's to 25 more glorious years at Watkins Glen.
• 1:54:05
  And since Brad's not here, I'm going to cover upcoming local news and events
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  The 26th Annual Vicari Cruise and the Coast Auction in Biloxi, Mississippi is
• 1:54:17
  on October 4th through the 7th, and you can learn more about this event and its
• 1:54:21
  founder on our Vicari Auction Company episode that aired earlier this month.
• 1:54:25
  A show that Eric and his family have been to several times
• 1:54:28
  over the years is coming up.
• 1:54:29
  It's the 59th Annual Apple Harvest Festival and Car Show in
• 1:54:33
  Biglerville, Pennsylvania, spanning two weekends, October 7th and
• 1:54:36
  8th, and October 14th and 15th.
• 1:54:38
  While you're out there, stop by the EMMR for a tour if you have some extra
• 1:54:42
  time, or check out the episode we did with Hall of Famer Lynn Paxton.
• 1:54:46
  Our friends at ESE Carbon are sponsoring the Smoky Mountain Driving Tour on
• 1:54:50
  October 14th at the infamous Tale of the Dragon, along with the RunSport
• 1:54:54
  Dragon Rally for three days of spirited driving on October 27th through the 29th.
• 1:54:59
  And mentioned before, we'll be at Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta.
• 1:55:02
  On October 14th.
• 1:55:04
  And if you're there and you happen to want to get a hold of us, we'll probably
• 1:55:07
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• 1:55:12
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• 1:55:17
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• 1:55:20
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• 1:55:22
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• 1:55:34
  What's coming up for the tail end of the summer on the East Coast?
• 1:55:38
  The Audi Club is hosting a two day driving school at NJMP Thunderbolt
• 1:55:42
  Circuit, October the 2nd through the 3rd.
• 1:55:45
  And speaking of NJMP, the track itself is hosting charity laps on
• 1:55:50
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• 1:55:51
  5th from 5 to 7 p.
• 1:55:53
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• 1:55:53
  Proceeds will benefit the Millville Army Airfield Museum.
• 1:55:57
  Meanwhile, EMRA, the Eastern Motor Racing Association, is closing out their
• 1:56:00
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• 1:56:04
  chapter of SCCA finishes out their time trial and HBDE season at the Jefferson
• 1:56:10
  Circuit on October the 14th and 15th.
• 1:56:12
  SCCA Club Racing will also come to a close on the East Coast in October at
• 1:56:16
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• 1:56:20
  In case you missed out, check out the other podcast episodes
• 1:56:22
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• 1:56:24
  We kicked off the month by picking up where the What Should I Buy muscle
• 1:56:27
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• 1:56:31
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• 1:56:33
  We chatted with University of North Carolina student Brockton Packard
• 1:56:37
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• 1:56:40
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• 1:56:43
  We travel from Cuba to Le Mans when co host Mike Carr rejoins us to dive into
• 1:56:47
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• 1:56:50
  Two miles too far.
• 1:56:52
  That's the moral of the story for Larry Benedictus, as he recounts
• 1:56:55
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• 1:56:59
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• 1:57:02
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• 1:57:06
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• 1:57:12
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• 1:57:16
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• 1:57:20
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• 1:57:24
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