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Mark interviews Fox News contributor Liz Peek. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 2: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: New York.
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  Speaker 2: Now three hours every weekday from 9 till noon on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hey, let's talk to the brilliant columnist, Liz Peek.
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  Speaker 1: You can read her at foxnews.com or thehill.com or check
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  Speaker 1: out her website. A lot of great stories there every day. Lizpeek.com. Lizpeek.com.
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  Speaker 1: Liz Peek, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm terrific. Thanks for having me on, Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, if you were, let's say you were a Democrat
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  Speaker 1: and during the Clinton years, you went into a coma
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  Speaker 1: and you came out of it now and you turn
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  Speaker 1: on the television, there's El-Sayed and there's Mamdani. What would
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  Speaker 1: you think happened to your party?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you'd be wondering what happened to the
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  Speaker 2: United States.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, Mark, I think no one saw this coming, particularly
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  Speaker 3: at a point.
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  Speaker 2: Where despite all the gloom and doom talk from the left,
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  Speaker 2: the truth is our economy is growing, jobs are plentiful,
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  Speaker 2: real wages are rising, the stock.
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  Speaker 3: Market's hitting new highs. Those are not.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly the sort of guideposts or red flags that you
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  Speaker 2: would expect to herald the surge in socialism that we're.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing from the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 2: And let's be clear, this is not just a weird
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  Speaker 2: thing off-center group, the Democratic Socialists of America, more and
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  Speaker 2: more mainstream Democrats, people like Gavin Newsom and Kathy Hochul
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  Speaker 2: and so forth, are embracing policies that, to your point,
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  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton doesn't agree with, and certainly Bill Clinton wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have embraced. He was all about you know, signing on
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  Speaker 2: to welfare reform. His hands were tied a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He was forced to do it by Newt Gingrich. But
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  Speaker 2: the reality is Bill Clinton is revered now, I would say,
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  Speaker 2: on both sides of the aisle for having ushered in
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  Speaker 2: a balanced budget. Can we even imagine such a thing
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  Speaker 2: when we're spending $ 7 trillion and our debt just went
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  Speaker 2: over $ 40 trillion?
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  Speaker 3: The answer is no. I mean, we really..
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're really looking at some really difficult things here.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the most difficult is the undermining of
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  Speaker 2: American values. And I know that sort of sets people's
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  Speaker 2: hearts beating on the left because they think it's a
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  Speaker 2: sort of right wing way of saying we don't like, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, illegal immigration. We don't like all.
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  Speaker 2: Kinds of things that they do, that they do like
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  Speaker 2: racial diversity and so forth. That's really not true at all.
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  Speaker 2: What we do like, or what conservatives embrace, including myself,
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  Speaker 2: is meritocracy. And we don't like DEI because it is
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  Speaker 2: the enemy of meritocracy.
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  Speaker 3: We like individualism. We like freedom of expression.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that you've had instances of the government trying
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  Speaker 2: to shut down free speech, it's just horrifying.
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  Speaker 3: This Nick Shirley law that just.
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  Speaker 2: Was signed by Gavin Newsom in California is a tremendous
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  Speaker 2: abridgment of free speech. And you know, kind of another
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  Speaker 2: instance of the Democrats standing up for fraud.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, it makes your head spin how much stuff is
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  Speaker 3: going on.
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  Speaker 2: And truly, to answer your question in a sort of
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  Speaker 2: sane way, the Democratic Party has lost its footing entirely.
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  Speaker 2: And they are not, I think, in line with what
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  Speaker 2: many voters want.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if you ask voters in Do you.
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  Speaker 2: Want to tax the wealthy more? A lot say yes,
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  Speaker 2: because that doesn't hurt them. But then when you get
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  Speaker 2: into the details of do you like big government socialism
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  Speaker 2: and big government interference in our.
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  Speaker 3: Economy, the answer is 100%, not 100%, but 80% no.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like free market capitalism as opposed to just capitalism?
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  Speaker 2: The answer is a very positive yes. That's what John
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  Speaker 2: McLaughlin said. an admittedly right-leaning pollster has found. But it
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  Speaker 2: is interesting, if you just introduce the slightest bit of
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  Speaker 2: nuance that conjures up what we love about our country, opportunity, freedom, liberty,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, you find very different responses.
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  Speaker 1: So Liz Peek, you think all this was caused by
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump? I mean, we love him, but he can
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  Speaker 1: be overly abrasive, but he's also very tough and effective.
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  Speaker 1: You think they just went nuts thinking that's the only
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  Speaker 1: way to battle this guy?
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  Speaker 2: I think it has been part of the problem, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I find myself wondering, I'm sure you do too, what
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  Speaker 2: happens in three or four years when Trump has been
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  Speaker 2: out of office, almost regardless of who succeeds him, will
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  Speaker 2: the temperature come down and will enthusiasm for completely nutty
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  Speaker 2: ideas on the left recede? Another question is this, suppose
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  Speaker 2: we've actually, it has gone unheralded, but we've actually seen
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  Speaker 2: movement towards a realignment in the Middle East, which perhaps
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  Speaker 2: will dull this anxiety on the left about Palestinian people
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  Speaker 2: and Gaza. If indeed you have an independent commission setting
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  Speaker 2: up to govern Gaza, if Hamas actually agrees with that,
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  Speaker 2: which it seems like maybe they are doing to some degree.
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  Speaker 3: If Israel gets out of Lebanon, et cetera, is Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be the big bogeyman that the left is
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  Speaker 2: using now, the big kind of cudgel?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think they'll move on. And so the question is,
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  Speaker 3: what's next? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think a lot of this is color,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the protests, a lot of the lurch
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  Speaker 2: left by the Democratic Party, certainly a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: anti-Israel excitement is because of Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the left, they always have to create
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  Speaker 1: a boogeyman to be terrified of. Right now it's data centers.
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  Speaker 1: Do we really need to be so terrified of a
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  Speaker 1: data center? It makes a little noise, but outside of that.
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  Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, people are reasonably concerned about rising
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  Speaker 2: electricity rates. Frankly, there's a very easy way to fix this.
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  Speaker 2: You just make the data center, the hyperscalers, the data
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  Speaker 2: center owners and builders responsible for providing their own electricity.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever that costs, however you word the legislation, this is
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  Speaker 2: really up to the states. In my view, they should
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  Speaker 2: just make these rules. that you have to provide your
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  Speaker 2: own water or use a very limited amount of water, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is possible. And basically pay for the
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  Speaker 2: provide extra electricity, provide for whatever you're spending. And then
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  Speaker 2: what's the big problem? There really shouldn't be any because
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  Speaker 2: you have, for example, union workers across the country saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is a lot of jobs. that are being offered here,
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  Speaker 2: we want in on this. So the Democrats have a
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  Speaker 2: problem because a lot of their union backers are really
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of this argument. But Mark, I
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  Speaker 2: really set out to figure out whether China actually was
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  Speaker 2: promoting all this AI resistance. It certainly makes sense, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because they want to win this AI race. And the
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  Speaker 2: biggest speed bump now in the United States is not
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  Speaker 2: technology dominance, which we have. It is the data center opposition.
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  Speaker 2: So you come to find out, guess what? It actually
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  Speaker 2: is being promoted by China. They have a very strong
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  Speaker 2: vested interest in slowing our AI build out, our data
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  Speaker 2: center build out, and they're hard at work making that
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  Speaker 2: happen through nonprofits that are dominated by or controlled by
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  Speaker 2: by this guy, Singham. I kept reading articles about him
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  Speaker 2: and thinking, who is this guy? So finally, I did
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  Speaker 2: my own research on it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's true.
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  Speaker 2: And he's very much in the hands, the putty in
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  Speaker 2: the hands of Beijing.
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  Speaker 3: And he's doing their bidding.
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  Speaker 2: And he's funding groups that go out and excite people
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  Speaker 2: about data centers, feed the narrative, the anti-data center narrative.
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  Speaker 3: And Guess what? It's working. I mean, it's really tragic.
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  Speaker 2: Incredibly, the AI guys, the CEOs, Mark Zuckerberg et al.
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  Speaker 3: Where are they?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've really been just completely behind the eight
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  Speaker 2: ball in talking up the benefits of AI and what
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  Speaker 2: it means to communities to have this huge bump in
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  Speaker 2: tax revenues, which they do provide.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're afraid to become the face of these
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  Speaker 1: centers because... The left is convinced everybody they're like nuclear reactors,
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  Speaker 1: just as dangerous, which of course they're not.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's so stupid. It really is so stupid.
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  Speaker 2: People would rather, yeah, people would rather have a nuclear
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  Speaker 2: power plant in their backyard than a data center.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind either. I think they're fine.
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  Speaker 2: You know, again, they promote our economy. And Mark, the
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  Speaker 2: other thing is that if you do any research.
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  Speaker 3: At all on demographics, we need AI. to build up
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  Speaker 3: our workforce.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, right now we have millions of baby boomers
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  Speaker 2: retiring finally, late, later than expected, but they are retiring.
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  Speaker 2: And you have people self-supporting a lot, real downturn in
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  Speaker 2: immigration and immigrants in this country wanting work. And you
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  Speaker 2: have college graduates coming out with skills that are totally
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  Speaker 2: misaligned for today's workforce. So You know, the reality is
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  Speaker 2: we actually need AI to prosper, to encourage the growth
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  Speaker 2: of our economy. And hopefully, you know, common sense will
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  Speaker 2: prevail here and it'll happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Liz Peek, always great talking to you. Great stuff
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  Speaker 1: as always. And now how many times are you on
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  Speaker 1: TV today? You're going to see her all over television.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm remote this week. And so I was on
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  Speaker 3: Bottom Line last night. I'll be on Varney tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Some of my shows are happier with my remote status
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  Speaker 2: than others, but I appreciate their forbearance, and I'll be
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  Speaker 2: back in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Now, go read her columns. Go to foxnews.com.
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  Speaker 1: You can read Liz peak there the hill.com but also
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  Speaker 1: make sure you go to her website it's a great
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  Speaker 1: uh site to check every day for great stories lizpeak.com
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  Speaker 1: lizpeak.com lizpeak thanks.
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  Speaker 2: For being with us hey thanks so much for having
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  Speaker 2: me mark have a terrific day all right.
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