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Bears defense grounds Jets in big win · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Wendy City podcast presented by fans cited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know, no Alex today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing that we've talked about a lot on here is the times that we've worked together in the past and a central figure in that, basically one of the way I got to NBC and you see him right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony, how you doing, my God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really face time, people that often, I'm not a face time worker, it's kind of not my demo, even I'm sure it's people might say those does it often, but we should probably do it or we should just hang out, you know, like for sure, that's one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing that I do plan on this year, and I should wait to end the year, but next year, I wanna do more group things with the guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of thinking about how to do it, how some guys come over, try to do some barbecues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't barbecue really that this year, and that's what odd for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but there's something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we need to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And anybody, hey, give us some ideas in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, things in the city that a group of guys, sometimes just a few of us, sometimes a whole group or whatever that we can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, back to this game, the bears beat on the jets 23 to 12.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2334 for 26 day yard to 7.6 average zero TDs, one in a section should have been several more and a rating of 83.9 across the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have Gino Smith, eight of 15 for a hundred and nineteen yards, 7.9, one TD and he was sack three times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyson was one, but Gino had a 101.8.
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[SPEAKER_01]: QB rating, but to Tyson Bayesian, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you didn't know about you seeing the last episodes, or even after the last two episodes, the victory episode and then the pre-game episode, I wasn't a fan of playing Tyson, and to be honest, I'm still not a fan of playing Tyson Bayesian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though Ben Johnson proved, then we'll get to Ben Johnson, what he could do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was about Benzy go to me in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And hey, I love Benzy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say you go rock if you can win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But even listening to the announcer say,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, was it, uh, bento and uh, Drew Breeze because I got out of a mean is calling playoff baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, say that, you know, the reason the types of patients here as far as athleticism, athleticism really wasn't on display.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he did get out of bounds, uh, believe twice on the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you need it, if that was so essential, I still don't believe that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is more valuable than what you can see case kingdom do with his arm because at certain times you saw the fact that the lack of zip on Tyson's ball allowed defenders to catch up and sink under or cross paths of the offensive pass catcher and again I just felt like it was unnecessary to do that telling you what were your thoughts on playing Tyson today and how well he played today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, we talked off air after the case Keenan game and I was convinced I'm like, hey, like, he got the high hand, the Eagles aren't pushovers, you know, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They won that game with case Keenan, but, you know, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a depth chart for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They then Johnson, he's the quarterback guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he set that depth chart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the room that I'm most confident in that he knows who to play and when to play them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: have them make the official roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You pay Tyson Bayjan top tier backup money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see what you have in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you never know, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it may lead to another asset, a bigger asset that you need later down the road once Caleb gets back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I understood why he made that choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to his credit, he was very confident in that choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even after
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[SPEAKER_00]: They won that game with case key to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's like, yeah, Tyson, our number two quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he's healthy, he's going to play and let it at that didn't leave it up to speculation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If his number two quarterback is ready to go, that's what he's going to go with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, look, this was a game that you knew the bears are going to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of a dollar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, who was going to play the jets are terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you did want to see competence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You did want to see a solid game plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you saw that from Dennis Island and Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Tyson, he did what he was supposed to do today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You handed ball off and you make the plays where you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now my only issue with Tyson is sometimes, look, case knows where his arm is at and I think that's the benefit of being a veteran.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have a cannon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's an anticipation and him knowing the playbook and where guys are going to be open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That really showed up against the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Tyson it seems still like he thinks he has that arm you know, but he just doesn't have it like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of those lot a lot of people were getting a lot of hands on his passes and that's just because just his lack of arm strength.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, lovelin in the scene a couple of times right in the pocket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has that ability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I just like, even on that, that win ofception.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you see the flaws of Tyson Bayesian is I know he recognizes where I just don't think he
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[SPEAKER_00]: except the fact that he doesn't have the arm to get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, I think Tyson is a really good NFL backup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's one of the best backups in the if not the best backup in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he should be able to do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He should be able to win you games in today was proof of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think something that I neglected and you hit on it was the money and always follow the money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're not going to pay Tyson Bayjan to be a top flight backup and then put case keen them out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I don't know if you were a student who perhaps using him in a move this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but one of the things that I've been thinking about is this, too, and it's good about finding out that what case can do is we never know if that would be down to quarterback's during this season, you know, it's easy to be like, oh, they just need one and it's like, no, you we've seen situations where teams were with was calling Joe Flacco off the couch, you know, I'm saying, that means they was here so far, we're only, right, we're working three, four games in and yeah, I saw a stab actually I run it down, they put it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six games already where people had to play their backup quarterbacks like these injuries are no joke Like it's a valuable position that yes, no and and all all those guys were six and no And we saw that here with of course Caleb went down versus the Vikings But again, and I want to say this Tyson had played a really good game
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think you hit it on knowing his limitations and also falls on Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they're what listen, that um, that free play in a section.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about I'm actually happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He took that because I thought there's at least two times this year that Caleb didn't take free plays and one of the things I loved about last year Caleb was taking free plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't seen bears quarterbacks in the past season take advantage of a fall star and if the reference reference helps talk the game, go ahead and take that shot see what you can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I love having Aaron Rodgers and, and, and, you know, it's funny that how you're brain works because I was about to say after watching Aaron Rodgers do it all the time, it calms in and he's a fan of Aaron Rodgers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, it was a couple of balls that got away from Tyson that really, he should have had three perceptions this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get almost four, but you, you really can say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, there was some balls with case that kind of was close to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to make this seem like this is all bad Beijing because it wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good Tyson Baygit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second half, I felt like even with the turnover, or a tinted turnover, but he played even better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of my game notes was Tyson really carried them that suit this series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Managa, I carried them and I think I sat at Rome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was in the second or third quarter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where he's he's solidified it and you can see the reps and being out there where he improved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Begin this is not I'm not trying to knock Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy the bears have Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me say that first and foremost because of situations like this, pale being out next man up and a lot of times next man up is like man we messed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel like that your season's over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a thing with Tyson going in and obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Caleb born down the way he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In game, it felt almost derosesque.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it definitely felt derosesque.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to come out on the other end, it's a three to four-week injury is a blessing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also at the same time, you're like the season is still, we're still good to go with Tyson there because he's been there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows the system, been trust him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his teammates trust him as well because he spent that time there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And having a, and I get it, if you have a starting quarterback, a star at your quarterback, because if you don't really think about it until it's time to think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you can't waste seasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think Ben Johnson is interested in wasting seasons if somebody gets hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's the most important person to get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Caleb Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: transitioning into when your star comes back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's a better player to have at the position than in times of major NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to see it and around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, throw case in it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is this to what you're saying or looting to in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, the, that you don't have the urgency to try to rush Caleb back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something when you're talking about a star like, or soon to be star, like Caleb, like you're not like, man Caleb, we may need you to come back a little bit early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, you can say Caleb, take your time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the bears can't get a little give up a loss in these these four or five games of Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Caleb is going for five days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They come away with one loss, even two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one loss, you're like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and you think about the fact that you're on your way to beaten a bike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's not fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the bear should be on the feet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we're being honest, but that's football is whatever whatever it is in a game within a division where things like that can happen within a division.
10:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you can have two quarterbacks that and the key part you said, the season is an over now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a difference between
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb is out to the rest of the season and you've got to play these guys, but I would still say this I still think the best can have a chance to go 500 have a win in schedule with these two guys at quarterback I just don't think they can win a Super Bowl and another thing too from this game
11:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get to that towards the other side of this show.
11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That Super Bowl chatter is, and the back of my mind is getting louder and louder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time goes on because of what DA's guys are out there doing and DA, but again, we're sticking to the offense right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was there anything else you want to talk about, Tyson, before I move over to the office of Lion's Army?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I mean, this is a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last week was the hard game, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like nobody knew what was gonna happen and then they ended up winning that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was a, was a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we saw and were comfortable with everything that Tyson brought for this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now he's got the reps. Now he's got the capability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows he's gonna be playing next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no doubt about it unless something crazy comes down the injury report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm expecting even a better performance next week against the Packers.
12:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I want to get your thoughts on what your thoughts after the bears defeated the egos handily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it felt like as it was happening and bears friends haven't felt this, I don't know, you have to tell me, but you look at the egos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want us to be bold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still a really, really good team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as good as that Super Bowl year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I wasn't scared of the, you know, you know, you know, even going into that game knowing table was I thought the bears had a shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they had a chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I, I don't think there's maybe two coaches better than Ben Johnson in NFL and nature is not one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you feel fairly confident.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's,
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[SPEAKER_00]: your third stream quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once you saw case play, and you see him trust the offense.
13:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't, again, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't have a show every week.
13:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing that I was telling all my friends and new chat and people that I talked to about that game was he was throwing fade away throws on blitzes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just strictly because he knew who was supposed to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a control over the offense that only like a vet would have is this guy supposed to be I'm a little terrible if he's not there, but he's supposed to be there and he would throw that with people in his face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just a you saw why I've been jumped among them here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this guy doesn't have the arm talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the older dude, but he knows the offensive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows how to get the ball where he needs to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once I start seeing that as the first one, I was like, okay, this this should be okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We should be okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's that's what ended up happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were okay and they beat the they.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a surprise that they that they beat them to me, but I was very happy to see how they beat the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was surprised, I thought the bear's had a chance, but if going into that game, I had the Eagles winning, and that by a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was surprised that the Eagles who got their soul snatched by the bears and manhandled on Black Friday, there was no um, they didn't seem like they wanted to any get back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was shocking to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought even with Caleb and this was a two just like they always kind of play, you know, the stat, they always, the stat to the whistle, which can get you in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm saying like they all and they're not good enough to do that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they got to really did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I and now I think they come to reality or what that team is and that what they need to do and listen with that organization they will do what they will have a new head coach and a new quarterback in two years and nothing if they doesn't go right and they will be in a Super Bowl and about four like just that's just how they work it over there with Jeffrey Laurie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or whatever, but another thing to that two of case, and you mentioned the faded ways on the blitz, which again leads to protection, but for the most part, protection was pretty good.
15:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also say, I think protection was really good this game.
15:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, of course, you're not going up against that Eagles, defense of line, particularly with those tackles that the Eagles have in those DTs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, but the jets have a really good defense, but the thing is you look at the fact that the opening that was starting for Braxton Jones
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[SPEAKER_01]: The old bending name was now called.
15:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at the way that the Jackson All fairness at the beginning of this game, they were actually playing the run fairly well.
15:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like the bears, since the bears are guaranteed to run the ball, they're going to kind of get to their numbers in a degree, in a degree of ways, and then in the second half, Kamanunga, I just was like, oh yeah, I'm Kamanunga, and guess what, I clearly, I worked on my speed this all season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you look, we were all, you were also the producer for a big 10 country, another one of the things properties in the scene we're working here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a commonung, I was a guy that we discussed because the James love a Rutgers or whatever.
15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So we, we watched a commonung guy in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Commonung guy was running fastening with running in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The loose of the fact that Calvinung, I can separate now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was, yeah, yeah, like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's running like a speedy bull in a time to shop with a little bit of blow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got a little bit of wiggle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you want to see is like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When a guy makes that transition to NFL, you are who you are basically.
16:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, can you really round out your game even a little bit to become a more complete player?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're seeing that with common unguide that like, hey, he's a brick.
16:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He's eight point A to B straight line guy, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that works, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was successful.
16:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But now taking that next step for him was, hey, can you separate a little bit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you, once you get past that first level, can you make some people miss?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw, we saw all that today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was very happy with the compliment, especially the game that the answer is swiftly.
16:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I was having, again, another reason why you have in the binge on some thought process and his system is, hey, the one guy isn't going to be one guy every game.
17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So I need that secondary guy to come in and just pick up where that person is dropping off.
17:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Coming up as has been that since he's been here like this this running back duels is amazing and you know, you hopefully Deonti Swift will come back next game and have a better one holding on to the football But it's safe to say the bears have a dynamic running back duo
17:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have one of the better tandem in the league, and particularly because what you thought was going to be thunder and lightning is more, they actually, I mean, they're not the same player, but they can do some of the same, but they can do some of the same stuff and like for versus like one thing I raved about and you would definitely know about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the last year and a half or a year and four games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dianjus was vision, the way that hit is improved his vision, like you can see him seeing it.
17:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see with the like he's seeing how he it's slow down for him and you can see him doing it.
18:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And but you thought now I guess monun guy will have to look like that's pretty decent in the past.
18:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even put that on him because there were a couple of dumps that he received like that.
18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see them use the under Swiftmore in the past game like really as a receiver.
18:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But I did like the fact that DeAndre Swift was punished for her that fumble because the first fumble he did this season on the go-line I was like yo forget about it.
18:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he fumbles like that I was happy to bend it not put him back in there and we saw Rochon Johnson out there because you need to send a much to DeAndre Swift.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I need you to take care of that ball because that wasn't even a situation really with that Offender defender we should have been able to pop that out.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You should have better you should have better ball security
18:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're not like, yeah, that right there, you come sit, come sit over here, think about what you're doing or whatever, no, let's help him out.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he put it on for a second.
18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He took like, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did and they showed them taking it back off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, so he know he not come back.
18:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He was standing at one point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just took it off.
18:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, um, and but then the problem to lead me with what you're saying, then man, now got started getting tired.
19:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you know, being that don't let's not get a little
19:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You can only spend so many ways like make sure that we need because you to your point you need to guys because one's going to get tired or one's going to have a bad game during that game to be able to switch to the other guy and that proved essential in vital in this game but also the holes that the offensive line particularly in the second half were starting to put on these teams and we already know what the right side of the line with John Jackson and Darnell Wright can do
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: thing I loved about this and even look at it where it was behind Joe Tumi, where Kamenunga had a run and he ran, it was supposed to go up the right side and it was blocked off and he would walk and he would look felt and bounced it out by the guard, the left guard.
19:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And then ran for probably like about 10 yards or whatever something to that degree.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you got to first down, I believe you got to first down and just looking at what this offensive line and I love the fact that Ben Johnson put a premium on, we can't dilly dally and play and try to
20:11
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, sleuth as far as into Jerry Crawf trying to find talent that nobody else could find.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we can't do that with office line.
20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We need studs, really across the board.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can mess with this left tackle a little bit and I mean, even if you look at honest, it's been the second round pick on him.
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not like, you, this wasn't a fifth from six round pick.
20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there was a value on, let's get this guy we think that we can do.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And still to this thing, we go back to last year when honest, we look at hurt and it going from, oh, man, we got to wear
20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: As he's good hurt, Braxon Jones has been okay, but still has Braxon Jones side issues, but he is better than what he was, prior to Ben Johnson, taking over a head coaching.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that Theo Benedict again today, we really didn't have to pay any attention to him, also makes me think, and maybe it's more of a, maybe I don't know if the playbook changes how much the playbook changes with Theo Benedict isn't there?
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there is an, again, this is just my opinion.
21:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's why Braxton starts over him, but in a small sample size, I think Theo Benedict, if Braxton is healthy, should probably start over a Braxton Jones, because you still get the fall starts from Braxton, you still get the whiffs.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: There was one play last week, I don't know if you saw it Tony,
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk about it on this show where it was a free man on the wide nine that got to a got to case and I didn't know Okay, I was like okay Braxton is a man in front of Braxton, but Garrett Bradbury dove back and it made me think wait was Braxton supposed to be be protecting the wide nine guy
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And instead of he was guarded in the guy that was your tuning was supposed to go after him and Brad Bradbury, so this also could have been Joltony thing too I'm just trying to line up Braxton, you know what I'm saying because it seemed yep, it seemed like they should have shifted They should have shifted so that they could have picked up the wide nine guy because the wide nine now There's no someplace the pinnacle how the speed of the play you may let a guy go over it But just think
22:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But it seemed like a bad, very diving back that guy wasn't supposed to be unblocked in the manner that he was unblocked.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'm not unsure about that, but it just goes to the point sometimes where Brax can do Brax in things and good thing you didn't cost anybody as far as getting the quarterback hurt.
22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm, they're in Rochar and Ben Johnson, I think I was sick with the O2, Ozzie gets healthy again, but again, they none more than me.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I mean,
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the benefit of having been dropped and how he caused plays one running the ball is not easier when you're not when you're unsure about your office by talent, right?
22:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, putting them in past pro is when you're unsure about the the the abilities of your office of blind and something that I think been takes into consideration, but if it's not broken, fix it, man, but it's.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked good today, but it looked good.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you mentioned, if there isn't any typically the average football roster, right?
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a penalty here and then a side given up is what you typically looked at.
23:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And even on that visual surface level watching of the offensive line,
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: you didn't get any of that and that's that's that's what you want.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You want that consistency.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to make sure you guys upright.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in those times that, you know, you do you quarterback needs to make a play and Tyson was able to, you know, get out of a couple of jams there.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But I wouldn't say if there was anything, you know, significant that that the British were about after today's game.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Bears had just four penalties and they all seemed like they came in the first quarter.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Bears have been getting more penalties than you would think.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of calm that down.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: The Jets had 12 penalties today, which cost them 76 yards.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bears four cost them 29.
23:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the fact that, of course, we can just briefly touch this and we've already kind of talked about it.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The Ben Johnson is dedicated and foundation and to run in the football.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just real football for us football here.
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you can't you I know Ben Johnson loves Mike Marks and he's he prays on him.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the issues with the greatest show on turf was the fact that Mike Marks didn't take time off the damn clock.
24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Right that like he made and look you maybe is and I know we'll give it away if Martial fuck isn't back there and and maybe you want to you don't want Marshall to take those hits even on Marshall was still a great.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: run around between the tackle's guy and we know he could do in the past and game, but they needed to take time off the clock towards the end of that, towards the second half for the attempt for a second championship with the greatest show on turf.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love the fact that Ben Johnson is dedicated to breaking teams will through running the football.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And also the fact that it's not just running for the second running, he's trying to create explosive plays while he's running the football.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Deunder Swift is a terrific athlete, right?
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he's not Jimmy or Gibbs.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the times, and of course, we have Monty here in Chicago refer to David Montgomery, right?
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that he's a, David Montgomery is a, a extremely tough Swiss army knife.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like extremely tough Swiss army knife.
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And you didn't think that that tandem was here in Chicago.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But, and I look, just like, and again, it's a difference between Caleb Williams and these two quarterbacks.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a difference between the tandem that you give in Montgomery and Swift and
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But look how he implements them, how he uses them, you know, where it's like, okay, like just to show his wit, his IQ when it comes to football.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: This man and you said it, I, I've been saying it to him, I'm happy you said it.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely in the top three in football and I said this last week, Tony, if he keeps doing this, I think he's going to be the next bill wash.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think he's going to be the next bill wash.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so look I'm saying I think he will surpass contemporaries like Calshanna hand like Andy Reed like Sean Payton.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he had a very good time in gray.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: The show I made that's a dip they made reach there together.
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They make it that that's a good one.
26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good one.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The McVay one is the McVay one is a good one.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's a good one.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at those guys, right, and we're just talking really about just offensive guys, right, like, yes, yeah, I don't say a coach, right, like, he, you know, he's different, great, but but different, when you look at the offensive lines, they've unlocked the balance that you need, right.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: At one point at a lift was kind of taking over the game, hey, like if you do a screen pass is just as good as the run game, you know, remember that here from Oh boy, Maggie, but there is a factor into brutalizing another teams.
27:07
[SPEAKER_00]: line in line about your situation with the run game.
27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something that impacts the other team and it always has.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So if that is your foundation, if that is how you set up everything else, you're always going to have something open because they know in the back of your mind, this guy looks true run the football.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He's building a house every day and the foundation is how he wants to run the football and a lot of guys can't get over their egos because they want to show how fast and how many yards that they contain through the air.
27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Ben, he understands the game at its most basic levels to build up into the rest of what he wants to do and all the cool stuff that we wanna see.
28:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But he, it'll come up maybe once or twice a game where he'll be like, let me show you a little something, right?
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But he will not let that urge overtake his want to win the game.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you need.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what Maggie never was, right?
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Those were the issues that we saw in the previous hair coach that we don't see that now.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of an office of mine that doesn't get too much over his knees enough to lose him a football game.
28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, it's you win first.
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't necessarily matter how you win as long as you win.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ben takes that seriously of the way he coaches.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy he didn't play with four downs this I like the I did like when he went forward the first time and they were able to get to get a first down but I like that he didn't it didn't become the I'm just going to keep doing it for no reason as I feel like he tries to do it sometimes to prove what I'm going I'll say this to something that you said you are a person that grew up playing basketball you are a basketball player right.
29:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And have you ever been in the situation where you just couldn't stop somebody like it was like whatever this dude that dude and it's demoralize it and that's what a team that you can't stop them running the football anything you can't stop it's demoralize it like you like what what am I here for basically you know I'm saying like dude they're just going to do it they it's nothing worse than being on any play field and be like man is going to do what they want to do anyway if you hear that it's awful.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Where does it seem like a lot, right?
29:33
[SPEAKER_00]: There you are, tier, five yards here.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe three yards here, seven yards here.
29:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And you look back and I'm like, yo, are we back on our own five?
29:43
[UNKNOWN]: Look what they can't be.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was consistently happened.
29:46
[SPEAKER_00]: 10 plays, 10 play drives, 10 play drives, 10 play drives, man, that messes with you.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're also rewarding your offensive line and because they're not backpedal in all the damn time.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, these guys get to go out and inflict some damage on people.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you want to be in a backstale.
30:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to go out and knock a line back door.
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Deepies head off.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: out there's what you want to do.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to lose let everybody know we got this not games in that again when you're talking about someone who was viewed as being an Uber intelligent offensive play caller foundational throwback football is just it's sexy when you eat when that's a part of what he does it's sexy.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything on the offensive side you want to talk to before we switch to defense?
30:28
[SPEAKER_00]: No man, I think that last point you made it is sexy, right?
30:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we changed our
30:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we we've seen and it looks great like it visually like it that I mean that's a lie that you know people just want you know to throw the ball all the time now if you run the if you have a nice run game
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks good and it looks fun, it looks like fun football.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's another key to visually.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It is appealing.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And then once it sets up everything else in the past game, not, not, you know, now you, now you can look like an elite offensive team.
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So last week, Tony, I had to make I had to apologize to case kingdom twice.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because I've always said that I wanted to have someone with a ton of playoff or super experience in that QB room, right?
31:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to apologize to case, cause case, no, case, you go up in there.
31:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You do what you gotta do.
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: This week I have to apologize to Ben Johnson for something he said.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all kind of snickered and gave him the side eye.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that we're gonna coach these players up that we got.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, no, you need to defense a lot of it.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh, okay, am I what you coaching up?
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you need to break in.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you need to break in.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And all of the defensive line isn't gangbusters.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're getting pressures and D.A.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Dennis Allen is doing a fantastic job for a guy that got shafted draft night, I mean he got he listen he got a safety right and that's safety dealing with the enemy is balling out.
32:11
[SPEAKER_01]: 15 yards back, but no, you can't got him three yards from the line of scrimmage or behind the line of scrimmage.
32:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like Dinnon, Dinnon, Dinnon Thineman is playing like a guy drafted where he was drafted at in the first round at play safety.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to give him props, but Dinnon's Allen and you text me was like that was a terrific play call by Dinnon's Allen.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: When he sent to, I think it was a line back on the list.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember who he sent on the list.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Terry, Terry, Steve.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: All Tariq Stevenson also had a nice game too.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I did like Tariq listen that innerception almost intersection that fell between his legs or whatever.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the thing about Tariq his eye and his quick twitch is crazy sometimes because if you watch how he disengaged from the defender and fun is body around that's that's extraordinary that ain't like how he fun to
33:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Times teams have really played.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Dillon thing we played will, a game will call by defensive coordinator and Dennis Island, making it even when I was talking about towards a game to the show, thoughts of the bears, perhaps wondering at all, it doesn't seem like just BS because we're bears fans.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, wait, Caleb is out.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: All the whole thing about, well, they don't have a season that in a wide receiver room hasn't come back.
33:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they actually do is it means Cleve Raymond, but it's actually that hasn't been an issue whatsoever, the fact that the quarterbacks have still played with Caleb being out, but this defense, which we were like, they don't have to score 40 points to win a game.
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I do this score 23.
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: you know what I'm saying like this defense is in like and I told him you could say the jet state that what's the name was leading the league in yards uh uh geno smith all right like so again so like they're not the jet they're not lashes jets or anything but they like playing wise they may be one in three now but they weren't until this game was really where they played like that record you know what I'm saying like they haven't
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: play it like the record.
34:11
[SPEAKER_01]: This game makes you think about Eric Glenn's job in the future, but still they haven't played like that record.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But Dennis Allen and what he's doing in a guy that I have, I gave him props last week and we didn't get him props again.
34:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see him in the second half, but I saw Dio in the first half.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw Dio with pressure.
34:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Dio was getting out there and I got to get props with the props deserve.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Dio is playing well.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dennis Allen's defense man.
34:38
[SPEAKER_01]: then Bush was out there flying around and if they just get, what a Austin Booker had a good game, but even though that, so Dio got to that guy, Dio touched Gino first, then Austin came in and sack them, but Dio was playing really well and I, I wanted to get props to that, but man, shout out to Dennis Island, I'm actually getting to the point where I'm starting to fear losing to this island, that little bit, I'm like,
35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good, that's good, that's good, that's good, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be excellent first before I move on, like Ben did, like Ben finding people like Ben.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: In all these other positions, I think both well for organization.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: People that aren't necessarily trying to take the quickest way up.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: They want to be excellent at what they do at their job first, and then they
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: make that.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Take that step step up.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think DA is like that.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's learned a lot from, you know, his last before he got here.
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think people, I think that may be a trend.
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, guys aren't rushing to jobs.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like, hey, if I'm already an OC or a DC,
36:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm good.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excellent at it.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to pick it a litter every year.
36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no rush.
36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Flores is going to have to pick it a litter after staying even though he could probably could have been last year.
36:18
[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted to leave, but no, I'm going to come back.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a trend that I think people are settling in.
36:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm great at this.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll be ahead coach, but I'm great at this.
36:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But the defensive play, I think you're right.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to.
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: apologize to him.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not on the public platform as much as I used to, but if I was, I was definitely talking that juice saying, what if you don't want to be friends?
36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't pay the trust and why are they trusting these old injured dudes to get to the quarterback that it makes no sense, but so far it hasn't come up.
36:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I do want to say myself, it may come up later, right?
36:58
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37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're so used to man, Mao's gear.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like making it look easy for us visually, to say that guy is blowing everything up or that guy is not getting thrown at, that we don't really truly appreciate when a scheme is working and a game plan has worked over a long haul where it's not just one person, it's Devon Bush.
37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we haven't even mentioned sweat.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this whole time, he's a piece of my state defenders on a team.
37:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't matter because they're collectively playing so well despite your corners and nickels not being as good as we would thought collectively, right?
38:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen isn't performing as we had seen in the past.
38:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, Colle Gordon, he's not back yet, but you know, Tyreek Stevenson, really good player.
38:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Not going to be an all pro, but really good player.
38:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But I like and realize what's happening on a play-to-play basis where it's like, well, we don't have the talent, so we just going to be heavy blitz all the time.
38:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're doing it very strategically throughout the game, and I love what DA's doing right now will be finished.
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Demario Davis had the only sack for the jets for the bears, they got sacks from a sack from Devin Bush, Dio Dango, and also Austin Booker on the sack that we mentioned a second ago.
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I look, there will be teams just because of just weather, also, or they're just that good, they will run it up on this defense.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: This defense isn't world beaters, but also you brought up something and what if they had a game record?
39:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not talking about
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking about Miles Garrett and Michael Parsons, you know what I'm saying?
39:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying like a B-level guy, you know what I'm saying like a tier two guy because at this point, I don't, and again, when I'm saying tier two is high, like so I'm saying like, but like Francis Miles Garrett and Michael Parsons, you could almost say they're on the tier by themselves as what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying?
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're on another, maybe somebody, if I'm forgetting somebody, put it in the chat.
39:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm something those are like the rare Hall of Famer just you can't do anything even though this year both of them are now out and injured, but if they had a goddess in that second group because I don't I don't believe sweat because again like I say this tier is high this sweat is in that group if they had a guy throwing to this defense that could do that and yes.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You still have to schematically do what you're doing, but also this dude can just truly beat whoever's in front of him.
39:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes two of whoever's in front of him, just to alleviate some of that pressure, you know what I'm saying?
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And also it opens the scheme up because the offensive line has to focus.
40:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They're got to game plan to stop said player.
40:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that allows you to do other things off of knowing that they're going to probably double said player, depending on who the offensive line in front of him is.
40:16
[SPEAKER_00]: If a move could be had that doesn't cost you a whole lot right in that B tier of mass wrestlers at once, you know, playoffs are starting around out.
40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say go for it.
40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know,
40:32
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, injury and then we're like damn it case got knocked out too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right then we're like, uh man, too bad.
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have Tyson for this love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like again, like that will be my fear.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because you were still I wouldn't do it.
41:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
41:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, four, four, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think now, no one's seeing your quarterback going down.
41:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to hold on to both of those quarterbacks.
41:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And then if Tyson is, so if the team's willing to give you something decent for Tyson, then let trade him and keep case.
41:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you draft somebody else and you rents repeat and do what you just did again.
41:33
[SPEAKER_01]: As we've always said, we wanted to have the my Cungrum Packers deal where they always had the quarterbacks behind Brett Farve,
41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: you want to see that this is certainly take place because they traded away like four starters.
41:47
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you took you at Aaron Brooks, you had a...
41:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You had the guy down there with the Jaguars.
41:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I always forget he was nice too.
41:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I always forget his Tony Bicelli was his left tackle.
42:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I always forget he had him.
42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the best one.
42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You had who else did they throw that trade away?
42:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a few, they had a few, they had four, at least four.
42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to see the bears do that moving forward.
42:12
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Tony, your thoughts right now on the bears of this season.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And where did you think they would be at this point prior to the season?
42:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I had them, I think in my earlier predictions or on the season, I had them only losing that Vikings game.
42:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I've just been really high on the Vikings, uh, since, you know, since, since the off season.
42:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that's the only game I had to lose it.
42:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they're a strong playout team and when Caleb gets back, I think they can be in a Super Bowl.
42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: The sea hawks are still really, really good.
42:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're doing it with backups too.
42:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they're very, very strong team.
43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm I'm excited.
43:01
[SPEAKER_00]: This is I got a, you know, I haven't also have a newsletter, Bleach at the Aussie.
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't written on it yet.
43:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And a while this season, but I have something in in the can just talking about hope and what that looks like from a bare standpoint that.
43:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think any bears fan alive has as much hope as they ever had in a consecutive year.
43:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Then, you know, maybe the 86 bears, you know, they're supposed to be, be good, but.
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But after that though, no, no, no, no, no, that decade you thought that after day 1885, you thought they could win it until eight and nine.
43:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they, it's no, they should have had to, like the really two, they should have had two, yeah.
43:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They two should have been the bottom of that.
43:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they should have had three, but two, they definitely should have had two.
43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, my point is, it's different.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: because as we know, it's harder to keep a defense around and playing at an extremely high level for consecutive years.
44:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you still need a defense to win you a championship, but in terms of consistency or we've seen that, right?
44:13
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a Star Quarterback at an excellent play caller at Coach, you're gonna make the play out more often than not.
44:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So you get more chances to get to that Super Bowl.
44:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never felt this way about a team, but a bear's team before, because we've never had this before.
44:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's only offensive-minded headphones in an excellent top-tier talented quarterback that's young.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not even in his prime yet, but it's already showing pieces, I will say, chunks of start-up.
44:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So knowing even while injured, I am extremely confident in Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever he does during the week to practice to get guys prepared to play.
44:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's going into game most likely he's going to be the best coach going into the game.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That's never happened before.
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So all of those things that are culminating into what this group is that Ryan Pace puts together that Brian that Ben Johnson is a part of now and now with paired with Caleb Williams.
45:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing the pieces that, oh, this is going to be a Mike Tomlin-esque era of 10.
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[SPEAKER_00]: even stay here until he retires.
45:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
45:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And if everything he wants, I thought today too.
45:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He can have whatever you want to run.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You want you would do you?
45:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
45:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
45:38
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's ever a disagreement in between the two that's dire, I think we feel confident in who we want to pick.
45:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just parking spot.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just parking spot.
45:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I can't, that if you have it, it's like, I don't want to go back.
45:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go back to thinking every other year, I got, we got to fire this guy.
45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is in.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:02
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, this is a new era of bears, fandom, and bears watching that.
46:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we, it's tough to, to think about experience experiencing, but we're in it.
46:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We're here now.
46:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We're one of those teams.
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So what you're saying is that really been Johnson is like a 24 hour police detail around them because that's to be the own thing that could take it up set up what we got going on right like yeah that at the own because I was going to say you were like the most important move around in the city he could be he could be on South side he could be right where this is no one do you know how many hand buses across the city been Johnson has you know people will
46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna tell you, don't come on the south side, they're trying to do anything, don't do.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you dare do it.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You look like when you're talking about the most important person getting hurt and also be like, yeah, it's always been Johnson's healthy, you know, you're okay with both like his own body triple bit Johnson, you know, below his yeah like Joe pie like just keep in Josh's training we can get I can get you another quarterback and again, you know, I'm a team Caleb all the way during the Civil War.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I took out several friends and family members for K.
47:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, doing the battle of the camp and adjusting day.
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was, I was several people.
47:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to put down, totally.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a pro-killer, but man, I'm adjusting is the most important.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ever give it to me.
47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony free agent podcast can you tell everybody listening here what they'll get by checking it out?
47:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, man, they say so far we're kind of slow rolling that we're doing about once a month.
47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Me and oh and a big Lloyd, man, no guys are actually at creative brands and clothing mines and they love sports and you can tell by the brand free agent.
48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: The clothing brand.
48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you guys go look it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's free agent with an extra e on it.
48:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they got some great great great, great pieces man, like, timeful pieces in their packs.
48:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they really can encapsulate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sport as art.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they want to turn that into a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's something we're slow rolling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're building up.
48:34
[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting to it.
48:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to report actually next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just to kind of recap the season so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, it's it's been a fun project to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hanging out with those guys and you know, it's one people to listen to something unique.
48:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's something that the space is in right now where they're mixing fashion and pop culture and sports all together equally.
48:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's just a fun time so you know make sure you check that out as well
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Already I want to thank you Tony Gill follow him at the one Tony Gill also think Rick Camp who was going to jump in Tony was looking up Rick and can't be you will be coming on this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So look out for Rick and joining us Alex will be back for us to preview Packers week the bears will be traveling the green beta Packers did win today.
49:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Mark, Mark, I think you need to chill out.
49:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to take a little bit more time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, thank you, T, we always appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, we'll see you later on the week, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the week, Alex and myself enjoyed a week, enjoyed his victory, and I'll see you in about four to five days.