Latest / The Courtroom Files / March 19 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #253
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- 0:00Good morning, everybody. Happy Thursday.
- 0:02I believe it's Thursday. It's TCF Live.
- 0:05It's nice to have you all here. My name is Dan Soul.
- 0:07I'll be with you for the next three hours this morning.
- 0:09So buckle up. Let's start our day.
- 0:11Allegan County, Michigan. This is Jessica Sellis first
- 0:17offense. They also requested we set this
- 0:20for sentencing at a later date for crime victim rights
- 0:22purposes. Mr. Duffield is the parent or
- 0:27guardian of Addison here present or has any written impact
- 0:33statement been filed? Thank you, Your honor.
- 0:38Thank you, your Honor. No, the victim's parent is not
- 0:43present. No restitution.
- 0:45Was requested either just so the court is aware the defendant had
- 0:49been drinking alcohol and it was a factor in this incident.
- 0:52But we should be able to proceed the sentencing.
- 0:55Thank you. OK, but her her father's name is
- 0:57Chris Hair. I have no idea what's going to.
- 1:02Be sorry, ma'am, we'll get to you in a second.
- 1:04I'm asking if the parent or guardian of the victim is
- 1:07present. The prosecutor's office has said
- 1:09no, reviewing the court file. The settlement conference did
- 1:14not contain any specific sentence recommendations.
- 1:17So with that, now miss here, this is your chance to tell me
- 1:19anything you'd like to for sentencing on this charge of
- 1:23domestic violence. I, I just, I take accountability
- 1:32for, for my actions. And I just want you to know that
- 1:36I have a really good relationship with my daughter.
- 1:38And that's just, it's just, it's a crappy situation, but I'm a
- 1:45good person and I'm a good mother and I'm just ready to
- 1:49face whatever you've got to give me.
- 1:54Miss Graver, on behalf of Miss here for sentencing.
- 1:57Thank you, Your Honor, when speaking with Miss here
- 2:00regarding this incident. She.
- 2:02Has indicated remorse and as she's indicated on the record
- 2:05she does take accountability for her actions the police report
- 2:08does indicate that alcohol was involved and when speaking with
- 2:12miss here it's it's apparent that she understands that
- 2:17alcohol can contribute to actions being more severe than
- 2:24intended and she is aware that she you know she had.
- 2:29Pulled her daughter. 'S hair and that is something
- 2:31that she cannot do. There was a quite an argument
- 2:33going on between her and her daughter and due to the
- 2:36consumption of alcohol I believe that she she reacted in a very
- 2:41inappropriate way and I ask that the.
- 2:44Court take. This into consideration when
- 2:47giving her sentence. Thank you.
- 2:50My concern miss here is this is the second time around for you.
- 2:53You have a prior domestic violence charge.
- 2:56In that case, you were given a first offense deferral by the
- 2:59Ellington County Prosecutor's Office.
- 3:02Looks like you successfully completed the Domestic Violence
- 3:05Diversion program. Were discharged successfully on
- 3:08November 14th of 24. This arrest was less than a year
- 3:14later for the same thing on November 1st of 25.
- 3:18And as the affidavit of facts, the court file indicates, your
- 3:21blood alcohol content was twice a legal limit to drive at a .16
- 3:27when the police checked you in this case.
- 3:29Given those facts on this charge of domestic violence, first
- 3:33offense. First of all, as you're probably
- 3:35already aware, you're no longer able to own or possess any
- 3:38firearms for at least the next eight years because of your
- 3:42domestic violence conviction This morning, any possession
- 3:46would be a new felony charge. On the charge itself, we'll
- 3:50place you on probation for a period of one year.
- 3:53That will be with substance abuse and or domestic violence
- 3:56counseling as directed by the Probation Department.
- 3:59Condition of probation will be the not possessed or consume any
- 4:03alcohol, marijuana or legal controlled substances other than
- 4:08controlled substances that are prescribed to you by a medical
- 4:11professional. They will have the authority to
- 4:14check you for that here at the probation department.
- 4:17Have you checked by the police at your home or have you
- 4:20physically monitored for alcohol consumption at any point while
- 4:24on probation? The no contact provision with
- 4:27Edison's going to be continued until further order.
- 4:30The court that would require a recommendation of your probation
- 4:35officer to do so. The charge of domestic violence,
- 4:39the fine is $500. Court costs are $300.
- 4:42The cost of fees are $125.00. There is a $360.00 oversight fee
- 4:49for that term of probation for a total of $1285.
- 4:55Court file is showing you released from jail on a $1000
- 4:58personal recognizance bond, so all of that is due.
- 5:02You will have the entire time on probation to pay that amount on
- 5:05a monthly payment plan set up through the probation
- 5:08department. Finally, for the reasons as
- 5:11stated on the record, I'm going to impose a jail term of seven
- 5:14days in the Allegan County Jail, but I'm going to put that out
- 5:17subject to review, which means you're not sentenced to the jail
- 5:21time today. We're going to leave that out
- 5:23subject to review to see how probation goes and hopefully
- 5:27that will never have to be utilized.
- 5:30As to your probationary sentence, you are not entitled
- 5:33to an early discharge as this is an assaultive offense.
- 5:37Probation department's going to contact you shortly to set up
- 5:40your probation order. What telephone number can they
- 5:43reach you at this morning? 616218 Good morning, Good
- 5:48morning 374. 5374 OK, you are free to hang out from the court
- 5:54proceeding. Be available at the telephone
- 5:57number you just gave us. Probation officer will contact
- 6:00you at that number shortly. Good luck to you, Miss Meyer.
- 6:04Thank you, Miss Graver. Thank you.
- 6:06I don't. Know I hang up.
- 6:14Hey, Stefan. Can you hear me?
- 6:27Yes, I can. Sorry, I Yep, I can.
- 6:31Yeah. Hello one second, I have two
- 6:38files on Tate John Staffing file 254058SD260454ST on these cases.
- 6:48The defendant pled guilty back on the 26th of February.
- 6:52At that time, as required, I ordered a substance abuse
- 6:55assessment and asked that a criminal and driving history be
- 6:59run. I have received from our
- 7:01probation department an indication by letter dated March
- 7:0718th that they have attempted on numerous occasions to reach the
- 7:12defendant to set up his substance abuse assessment.
- 7:17However, Mr. Staffan did not answer his phone.
- 7:20They indicate his voicemail is not set up so they were not able
- 7:24to leave a message. They also indicated they
- 7:27contacted his attorney, Miss Graver, attempting to have her
- 7:31contact him to have him appear for the assessment.
- 7:36As of today, I have no assessment in the court file, so
- 7:39we're not able to proceed to sentencing.
- 7:42So, Mr. Staffan, we're no better off than we were back in the day
- 7:46of your plea. I'm going to refer you again
- 7:48right now to our probation department for your substance
- 7:51abuse assessment. What telephone number can they
- 7:55reach you at this morning? This morning?
- 7:58OK, so that's the number that I had given them a while back, but
- 8:04I was trying to call them and they didn't answer.
- 8:06But it is, no, the probation department always answers your
- 8:10telephone, Mr. Stephen. They always answer their
- 8:12telephone. So don't tell me they didn't
- 8:14answer their phone. What number are you going to be
- 8:17at right now? Because I'm sending the file
- 8:20down to the probation department right now. 810. 79 the probation
- 8:33file is going to get this number in just a minute.
- 8:35Since you don't have voicemail set up on your phone, you need
- 8:38to answer the phone when they call you at this number.
- 8:42If we don't get the substance abuse assessment done, I'm going
- 8:45to set up a show cause, which means you're happy to come
- 8:48physically into the court to have that done.
- 8:51We're trying to avoid that, so be available at the number
- 8:54810-241-2579. They will call you at the this
- 8:59number shortly. They will also now give you a
- 9:01new date and time for sentencing after that substance abuse
- 9:05assessment has been completed. OK.
- 9:08OK. Sounds good.
- 9:09I appreciate it. OK, they will they will be
- 9:11calling you shortly. OK.
- 9:14Thank you. Amanda Willover, can you hear
- 9:34me? Yes, I can hear you.
- 9:45This File 253720 SM People versus Amanda Rose Willover.
- 9:51She was charged in this case with a misdemeanor charge of
- 9:54truancy by the Allegan County Prosecutor's Office.
- 9:58At a pretrial conference on January 8th of this year, the
- 10:02defendant entered a plea of guilty to that charge.
- 10:05At that time they were requesting a delayed sentence
- 10:11for a period of 60 days. The indication was the defendant
- 10:17will provide the Prosecutor's office a record of her child's
- 10:21attendance at school for the six weeks after the plea beginning
- 10:26on Monday, January 12th. If any unexcused absences are in
- 10:31that six week period, the defendants will be then
- 10:34sentenced to the charge of truancy.
- 10:37If there are no unexcused absences in that six week
- 10:40period, the Prosecutor's office agreed to dismiss the case.
- 10:44Mr. Duffield, have you received the proof of that as required by
- 10:49her plea agreement? Thank you, your honor.
- 10:51I am, I have received it from the school resource officer, not
- 10:55from Miss Will over herself. I apologize to defence counsel.
- 11:00I just, I'm emailing this to her now, but there are a number of
- 11:05unexcused absences post the day that we talked about stretching
- 11:12into February and continuing into March.
- 11:15The record I have cuts off on March 9th.
- 11:19So. So my reading of this is the
- 11:22defendant has not upheld her end of the agreement with that Miss
- 11:27Willover. We're going to proceed to
- 11:28sentencing on the charge of truancy.
- 11:31Is there anything else you would like to tell me for sentencing
- 11:34this morning? I did send the records to my
- 11:37lawyer, I don't know if she has gotten them.
- 11:42And yes, there are unexcused avices on there, but there's a
- 11:46lot of unexcused tardies in it. It has EU with it as well.
- 11:52So. And there's a couple of them
- 11:55with skipping class and not signing in, and those were those
- 12:00ones. So yeah.
- 12:07Miss Graver on behalf of Miss Willover for sentencing.
- 12:11I have nothing. Additional, Your Honor.
- 12:13The charge of truancy, the fine is $50.
- 12:18Court costs are $100. State costs and fees are $125.00
- 12:23for a total of $275. We'll put this out for payment
- 12:28over the next three months. Sports staff will mail to you a
- 12:32judgment of sentence which will indicate everything that I just
- 12:35said, that you were sentenced today on the charge of truancy.
- 12:39As the plea agreement was not complied with, you received a
- 12:42sentence of no jail, no probation, fines and cost of
- 12:46$275.00 with up to three full months to take care of those
- 12:51fines and costs. So with that, you are free to
- 12:54hang up from the court proceeding.
- 12:55You'll be expecting that in the mail, OK.
- 12:57All right. Thank you.
- 12:59Good luck to you, ma'am. Thank you, Miss Greer.
- 13:01Thank you. All right, deputies, who we have
- 13:06for today, Miss Craver, your last one, Maya Greer is not
- 13:10here. OK, I will give her a call and
- 13:13have her log on to Zoom. Thank you.
- 13:15Good. Morning, Your Honor.
- 13:27OK, Aisha Allen. Aisha Allen, can you hear me?
- 13:32Yes. This is about 254296 SD people
- 13:37versus Asia. Monet Allen here today for
- 13:41sentencing in this case. She was originally charged
- 13:45through a citation issued by the Allegan County Sheriff's
- 13:48Department with a charge of operating while intoxicated.
- 13:54She entered a plea of guilty to that charge on the 26th of
- 13:58February. At that time, as required, I
- 14:01ordered a substance abuse assessment.
- 14:03Also asked that a criminal and driving history be run and also
- 14:08indicated potentially a restitution amount if there was
- 14:12any requested. The substance abuse assessment
- 14:16has been completed so we are able to proceed to sentencing
- 14:20this morning. Mr. Duffield, has your office
- 14:24received any restitution requests from any person or
- 14:27entity? Thank you, Your Honor.
- 14:28We have been in contact with the homeowner.
- 14:30The story in this case is that the defendant went off the road
- 14:33and crashed into a front porch. We spoke with the homeowner.
- 14:37He believes insurance covered everything so he is not seeking
- 14:39restitution in this case. So we are able to proceed.
- 14:42Thank you. Case was resolved at the time of
- 14:46a pretrial conference on February 26th.
- 14:48At that time there was no specific recommendation as to
- 14:51sentence. With that, Miss Allen, this is
- 14:54your chance to tell me anything you would like to for sentencing
- 14:57this morning. Your Honor, other than what I
- 15:06just have disclosed with my lawyer and other than that, I
- 15:13really just would like to apologize, apologize to the
- 15:16court as well as apologize to the victim or as you know, just
- 15:22for the situation. I realized the magnitude of my
- 15:28actions and I also realized how very blessed I am that it was
- 15:33very small and that no one was injured.
- 15:37But I, I've taken a lot of precautionary measures since the
- 15:42accident just to think more clearly and be more cognizant of
- 15:51all of what my actions and who are being affected by my
- 15:54actions. So I, I would just like to take
- 15:58the time to, to apologize for the misuse of the courses time
- 16:06and and and take responsibility for what I've done.
- 16:11Miss Fogel, on behalf of Miss Allen for setting this morning,
- 16:14thank you, Your Honor. Yes, Miss Allen was going
- 16:18through some mental health issues at the time of this
- 16:20incident. She had just started taking 2
- 16:22new psychiatric medications toward the end of November and
- 16:27does believe that it affected her ability to process alcohol.
- 16:30She has not drank or driven at all since this incident happened
- 16:35and that was of course partly due to a requirement by the
- 16:40court. However, she has also told me
- 16:43that this was a personal decision as well, that she will
- 16:46not be drinking. She feels incredibly guilty
- 16:50about what has happened. She and takes has taken full
- 16:56responsibility for it. She is very grateful that there
- 16:59were no injuries. Additionally, she is a a full
- 17:03time student and full time employee right now.
- 17:06She started school on February 6th.
- 17:10She's working on her Master's degree in Child Developmental
- 17:13Psychology, going to school at FMHU.
- 17:17She'll be finishing her first term of her master's in the
- 17:19middle of April, I believe April 14th.
- 17:22She has straight A's right now and anticipates finishing with
- 17:25that as well and plans to go on to get her doctorate after she's
- 17:28completed her master's program. She's been working full time
- 17:32since she was 14 and she has continued working full time as
- 17:35she's been going to school full time and getting her education.
- 17:39She's been working full time at her current job since June of
- 17:42last year, which allows her to get health insurance, dental
- 17:45insurance, and tuition reimbursement to allow her to
- 17:50attend her master's program. Her biggest goals are to be able
- 17:53to keep her job and continue working on her education as well
- 17:58as continue working on her mental health, which she has
- 18:01been working on extensively since this incident as well and
- 18:04is now in the best place it's been in years.
- 18:08She takes full responsibility for what happened and is very
- 18:13grateful there are no injuries in this matter.
- 18:16We would request fines and costs only.
- 18:21Michelle, reviewing your materials here for purposes of
- 18:24sentencing, do not see any prior drinking and driving offenses.
- 18:28Your blood alcohol level was nearly three times the legal
- 18:32limit at a .21. You live up in Granville.
- 18:37You were here in Allegan County driving around with the .21.
- 18:41I have no idea where you were or where you were coming from or
- 18:45where you were going. Obviously you didn't make it out
- 18:47of Allegan County. You crashed into a house.
- 18:51And at this point, it looks like you're not driving because you
- 18:54refuse to take a breath test and you have a one year hard
- 18:58suspension for the Michigan Secretary of State's office for
- 19:02refusing to take that breath test.
- 19:04I'm guessing because of that they drew your blood and found
- 19:08that you were at the .21. So my concern is, again, you're
- 19:13from out county. You're driving around at nearly
- 19:15three times the legal limit and were unable to drive
- 19:19successfully, crashing into a immovable object like a house,
- 19:24which means at that point you were obviously a public safety
- 19:28risk because of your consumption of alcohol and then attempting
- 19:32to drive a motor vehicle. On this charge, we'll place you
- 19:35on probation for a period of six months.
- 19:38That will be with substance abuse counseling as directed by
- 19:41the probation department. Condition of probation will be
- 19:44that you not possess or consume any alcohol, marijuana or
- 19:48illegal controlled substances other than those prescribed to
- 19:50you by a medical professional. They will have the authority to
- 19:54check you for that here at the probation department.
- 19:57Have you checked for the police at your home?
- 20:00And because of your extremely high blood alcohol level in this
- 20:03case. I'm going to order physical
- 20:06monitoring for the 1st 30 days of your probationary period
- 20:09utilizing either the SCRAM or Soberlink methods at the
- 20:12discretion of the probation department.
- 20:15Again, your driver's license is gone both because of the fact
- 20:19that you refuse to take a breath test and because of your
- 20:23conviction for operating while intoxicated.
- 20:27So a specific condition of your probation is a not operate a
- 20:30motor vehicle unless you become licensed to do so by the
- 20:34Secretary of State's office, which unless the Circuit Court
- 20:37overrides that will not happen during the course of your
- 20:40probationary sentence. So getting caught driving for
- 20:44any reason would be a violation of your probation On this charge
- 20:48will also require completion of a victim impact panel.
- 20:52The charge of operating while intoxicated.
- 20:54The fine is $500.00 for cost $400.00.
- 20:57State costs and fees are $125.00.
- 21:01There is a $180 oversight fee for that term of probation and a
- 21:05$100 fee for the substance abuse assessment for a total of $1305.
- 21:12Court file shows you released in the Elegant County Jail on a
- 21:16$500 personal recognizance bond. So all of that is due, but you
- 21:21will have the entire time on probation to pay that amount on
- 21:25a monthly payment plan set up through the probation
- 21:28department. Finally, as to your probationary
- 21:31sentence required to advise you that you were eligible to be
- 21:34discharged at the halfway point if you have completed all the
- 21:38terms and conditions of your probationary sentence at that
- 21:41time. So in your case probation could
- 21:44be concluded and as soon as three months be setting the file
- 21:48down to our probation department, they're going to
- 21:50contact you this morning to set up your probation order.
- 21:54What telephone number can they reach you at today?
- 21:57616. OK, With that, you are free to
- 22:07hang out from the corporate sitting, but be available the
- 22:10telephone number you just gave us, you're receiving a telephone
- 22:13call at that number from our probation department.
- 22:16Good luck to you, Miss Allen. Thank you, Miss Graver.
- 22:19Thank you. I'm sorry, I misspoke.
- 22:23Thank you, Your honor. Jason Sterner, can you hear me?
- 22:34Yeah, I can hear you. This file 244674 SD People
- 22:55versus Jason Charles Sterner here today for sentencing on the
- 23:0126th of February and at a plea of guilty to the charge of
- 23:08operating while intoxicated at that time the prosecutor's
- 23:11office dismissed an additional charge of driving while his
- 23:14license was suspended at that time as recorded I ordered a
- 23:19substance abuse assessment asked the criminal and driving history
- 23:22be run. Both of those have been
- 23:24completed, so we are able to proceed to sentencing.
- 23:29At this time, the prosecutor's office, in the written pretrial
- 23:34statement, agreed to make no recommendation as to what Mr.
- 23:38Sterner's sentence should be. So with that, Mister Sterner,
- 23:41this is your chance to tell me anything you would like to do
- 23:43for your sentencing this morning.
- 23:47Your Honor, I don't really have too much to say.
- 23:51I just want to say. That you know, I've come a long
- 23:53way from where I originally was at in life.
- 23:57I've got a full time job. I've got a seasonal landscaping
- 24:01business that I do during, you know, the spring and the summer.
- 24:05I've got two kids. I've been working from 5:00 to
- 24:075:00. I've been doing a lot better
- 24:10than what I was doing in the past.
- 24:14And I just hope you could take that into consideration that I
- 24:17am, that I am really praying and that I have been doing much,
- 24:20much better than what I was. That's all I've got to say, Your
- 24:25Honor. Miss Vogel, on behalf of Senator
- 24:29Mr. Sterner for sentencing this morning.
- 24:31Thank you, Your Honor. Yes, at the time of this
- 24:34incident, Mr. Sterner was very young.
- 24:39He made a huge mistake. He was getting involved with the
- 24:43wrong crowd. And since this incident, he has
- 24:46stopped going to parties, stopped hanging out with that
- 24:48crowd, spending time with them. He's gotten sober and has been
- 24:52sober for over a year. He goes to recovery meetings
- 24:55every week at a church in Lawton.
- 24:57He's also been working full time and has started his own small
- 25:02landscaping company. He currently has a full time job
- 25:05at Alternative Fuel Technologies and I actually had a statement
- 25:09from his supervisor who wanted me to tell the court that he's
- 25:12been doing a phenomenal job at work and they're so glad they
- 25:14hired him. Additionally, he had one
- 25:19daughter at the time. Since then though, he has gotten
- 25:22engaged, his fiance have had a second daughter.
- 25:25He's very committed to his family, he's committed to his
- 25:27sobriety and he's committed to his work.
- 25:30As Mr. Sterner said, he's come a long way from where he was when
- 25:33this incident occurred. But and additionally, your
- 25:36Honor, operating while intoxicated is not considered a
- 25:39serious misdemeanor under MCL 780.811.
- 25:42There is a presumption under MCL 769.5 of non jail and non
- 25:47probation sentence and we would be requesting fines and costs
- 25:50only in this matter. Thank you, your honor.
- 25:53So starter, you've been on bench warrant status since January of
- 25:5725 S for about what, 14-15 months now?
- 26:01When I sentence people on those situations, I have to go back
- 26:07and do what I would have done had you been sentenced when you
- 26:10were supposed to. Otherwise it'd be rewarding
- 26:12people for jumping bond and skipping court.
- 26:15So I am going to do the same as I would have you been sentenced
- 26:18back from the time of your original incident.
- 26:21Reviewing the materials for sentencing today, you have a
- 26:23prior conviction for being a minor in possession of alcohol
- 26:26in 2022 out of the Van Buren County District Court.
- 26:32You then two years later had a conviction also in the Van Buren
- 26:36County District Court for being a minor operating a motor
- 26:41vehicle with any blood alcohol content and that was a incident
- 26:48date of October 19th of 2024. This charge here in Allegan
- 26:56County occurred about 3 weeks later.
- 26:59You were arrested here on November 9th of 24.
- 27:04I'm guessing while that case in Van Buren would have still been
- 27:07pending and at the date and time of this incident you weren't
- 27:12even legal to drive. Your driver's license was
- 27:14suspended. So you had a case in Van Buren,
- 27:18you had a case here and you were given APR bond and jump bond and
- 27:24benchmark was issued for your arrest in January of 25.
- 27:30How are you eventually arrested on your benchmark?
- 27:32I'm. Sorry, your Honor.
- 27:35How are you eventually arrested on the bench warrant?
- 27:41I had a couple people living in my house and they had an
- 27:44accidental discharge while I was at work and some Van Buren
- 27:50County sheriff's deputy. What's an accidental discharge?
- 27:54He was cleaning his firearm and he didn't know there was a round
- 27:57in the chamber and he got off OK.
- 28:01OK, so the police were called for that.
- 28:03Yep. And then I was called to come
- 28:05back since I was the primary home owner.
- 28:08So I had left work and I went back that day.
- 28:11Originally they were just going to let me go back to work until
- 28:13they found out that I've had an outstanding warrant.
- 28:16OK, well you answered my question.
- 28:18You never turned yourself in. The police found you.
- 28:20OK so in any event, at this point, again, this is the third
- 28:26time you've been to court for an alcohol related offense.
- 28:29One for being a minor in possession of alcohol, 2 for
- 28:32then drinking after consuming alcohol.
- 28:35Blood alcohol in this case was a .11.
- 28:38So given those facts, I do believe that I am going to
- 28:43overcome the presumption of a first offense, which would be
- 28:47for no jail or no probation. And again, we'll do what I would
- 28:52have done had you been in court back in 25.
- 28:55And in this case, given this is a repeat offense because of your
- 28:59prior conviction for operating as a minor with the blood
- 29:02alcohol content out of Van Buren County, we'll place you on
- 29:07probation for a period of 12 months and that will be with
- 29:10substance abuse counseling as directed by the probation
- 29:14department. Standard condition of probation.
- 29:16This chart is he not possessed or consume any alcohol,
- 29:20marijuana or illegal controlled substances other than those
- 29:23prescribed to you by a medical professional.
- 29:27They will have the authority to check you for that here at the
- 29:30probation department. Have you checked with the police
- 29:33at your home or have you physically monitored for alcohol
- 29:36consumption at any point while on probation on this charge will
- 29:41also require completion of a victim impact panel.
- 29:45Your driver's license again is going to be impacted here
- 29:49because of your plea. So a specific condition of
- 29:53probation is that you not operate a motor vehicle until
- 29:57license to do so by the Michigan Secretary of State's office.
- 30:01The charge of operating while intoxicated, the finest $500.
- 30:05Court costs are $400.00. State costs and fees are
- 30:08$125.00. There is a $360.00 oversight fee
- 30:13for that term of probation and a $100 fee for the substance abuse
- 30:17assessment that was done for the court for a total of $1560.
- 30:23Court file shows on the bench warrant he posted a $3500 surety
- 30:40bond. So all of that is due.
- 30:42You will have the entire time on probation to pay those fines,
- 30:45costs and fees on a monthly payment plan set up through the
- 30:49probation department. As to your probationary
- 30:53sentence, required to advise you that you're eligible to be
- 30:56discharged at the halfway point if all the terms and conditions
- 31:00of your probationary sentence have been completed at that
- 31:03time. So in your case, probation could
- 31:06be completed and all soon as six months.
- 31:10Our probation department will get this file shortly and will
- 31:13call you to set up your probation order over the
- 31:15telephone. What telephone number can they
- 31:18reach you at today, Sir? You are free to hang up from the
- 31:30court proceeding, but be available at the telephone
- 31:32number you just gave us. You're receiving a telephone
- 31:35call at that number from our probation department.
- 31:38Good luck to you, Mr. Sterner. Thank you, Miss Vogel.
- 31:41Thank you once again. Good morning, everybody.
- 31:45TCF live on a Thursday. My name is Dan.
- 31:48Good to have you here. And I'm happy to report that we
- 31:52know whether or not the rounds in our weapons in the bunker.
- 31:56Here are chambered. We're what they call responsible
- 32:00anyways, let's let's go to Ohio. We have courts starting to come
- 32:06online now, but let's let's pay a visit to Judge F word.
- 32:11See how that goes. As well as pleading to count to
- 32:17disrupting public services, a felony of the 4th degree in
- 32:20violation of Revised Code 29 O 9 point O 4A3AS indicted.
- 32:26It is also the State's understanding that today the
- 32:28defendant will be pleading guilty by way of information in
- 32:31case 26 CR 348 to count 1, which is attempted failure to notify
- 32:37sheriff of residents or temporary domicile, a felony of
- 32:41the 5th degree in violation of Revised Code 2923, point O2 and
- 32:462950.04 E, and there is no agreement as to sentencing.
- 32:51All right, Mr. Johnson, thank you, Your Honor.
- 32:55That is an accurate resuscitation.
- 32:57Of the plea agreement. All right, Mr. Bettinger, how
- 33:01old are you, 46? How far did you go through
- 33:05school? Senior.
- 33:09Are you AUS citizen? Yes.
- 33:11Are you able to read, write and understand the English language?
- 33:14Yes. Prior to coming to court, have
- 33:16you taken any drugs or alcohol or any prescription medication
- 33:19within the last 48 hours? No.
- 33:22Have you ever been diagnosed with or treated for any mental
- 33:24illness? No.
- 33:27All right. In case 26, zero 53, did you get
- 33:33a copy of that indictment? Yes.
- 33:39It's my understanding you're going to plead guilty to the
- 33:42lesser included offense in count 1, Domestic violence, a felony 4
- 33:48and then count 2, disrupting public service, a felony 5.
- 33:51Is that your understand or is that a four or A5?
- 33:54To disrupt. A4.
- 33:55Year. 4 so 2 felonies of the 4th degree is that your
- 33:59understanding? Yes, all right.
- 34:02And in case 26, 348, you're going to plead waive your right
- 34:12to a grand jury and plead guilty to the failure to attempted
- 34:22failure to notify the sheriff of the residents or temporary
- 34:26domicile A felony 5 Is that your understanding?
- 34:29Yes. All right.
- 34:32Now, do you understand that in the 348 case, you have a right
- 34:35to have the case presented to the grand jury for them to
- 34:38decide whether or not to indict you?
- 34:40Yes. Did you discuss that right with
- 34:42your attorney? Yes.
- 34:44And are you going to waive that right?
- 34:45Yes. All right.
- 34:46Haven't signed that Mister Johnson the waiver.
- 35:14Your Honor, I've witnessed Mr. Johnson and the defendant.
- 35:16Signed the waiver of. Indictment and I attended.
- 35:21Myself, all right, I'll accept the waiver of indictment.
- 35:23Now, before I accept your guilty plea on both these cases, I need
- 35:26to determine that you know and understand the constitutional
- 35:28rights you'll be waiving, the consequences of your guilty plea
- 35:32and the maximum penalty I could give you.
- 35:34And I need to be satisfied that you're guilty pleas being made
- 35:37freely, knowingly and voluntarily.
- 35:40I'm going to ask you some questions.
- 35:41If you don't understand the question, then stop me and let
- 35:43me know that. If you want to talk to Mr.
- 35:46Johnson some more, let me know that and I'll give you more
- 35:48time. You understand that?
- 35:50Yes, you have a constitutional right to have a trial either to
- 35:53me, to a jury of 12 Lake County citizens, do you understand
- 35:57that, right? Yes.
- 35:58Are you waving that right? Yes.
- 36:00If you go to a jury trial, all 12 members must agree to a
- 36:04guilty verdict before you can be found guilty.
- 36:06Do you understand that, right? Yes.
- 36:08Are you waving that right? Yes.
- 36:10If you go to trial, the prosecutor will call witnesses
- 36:12to testify against you. Do you understand the prosecutor
- 36:15must prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt at a trial?
- 36:18Yes. After the witnesses are done
- 36:20testifying for the prosecutor, then you have the constitutional
- 36:23right to have your lawyer cross examine those witnesses.
- 36:25Do you understand that right? Yes.
- 36:27Are you waving that right? Yes.
- 36:30If you go to trial, you have the right to have witnesses come and
- 36:32testify for you. Do you understand that, right?
- 36:35Yes. Are you waving that right?
- 36:36Yes. If those witnesses refuse to
- 36:38come to court, I'll issue a, an order called a subpoena to make
- 36:42them come and testify. Do you understand that?
- 36:44Right? Yes.
- 36:45Are you waving that right? Yes, You have the right to
- 36:48testify a trial if you want to. Do you understand that right?
- 36:51Yes. Are you waiving that right?
- 36:54Yes. You have the constitutional
- 36:55right to not testify a trial if you do not want to.
- 36:58Do you understand that right? Yes.
- 36:59Are you waiving that right? Yes.
- 37:01If you decide not to testify a trial, nobody is permitted to
- 37:04comment on that decision. Do you understand that?
- 37:07Yes. If you go to trial and you're
- 37:10found guilty, you have the right to appeal the guilty finding.
- 37:12Do you understand that right? Are you waiving that right?
- 37:16If you file an. Appeal.
- 37:17You have a constitutional right to have a lawyer represent you
- 37:19in the appeal. Do you understand that right?
- 37:22Are you waiving that right? If you could not afford to hire
- 37:25a lawyer, one would be provided at no cost to you.
- 37:28Do you understand that if you file an appeal, you're entitled
- 37:31to have a transcript of all the hearings in this case?
- 37:34Do you understand that right? Are you waiving that right?
- 37:37If you could not afford a copy of those transcripts, they'd be
- 37:40given to you at no cost. Do you understand that if you
- 37:43plead guilty today, you will not have the right to appeal the
- 37:46guilty finding? Do you understand that?
- 37:48Do you have any questions about any of these rights?
- 37:51No, I do not. You still want to plead guilty
- 37:53on both these cases. Yes.
- 37:55Do you understand by pleading guilty you're fully admitting
- 37:58you're guilt to the charges? Yes, you understand by pleading
- 38:01guilty to these felonies you're voluntarily giving up your
- 38:04freedom for whatever period of time I could send you to prison,
- 38:07to jail or to community control. Yes.
- 38:11In the 53 case, the lesser included offense of domestic
- 38:17violence in Count 1 is a felony. 4 carries an 18 month maximum
- 38:21prison sentence and a $5000 maximum fine.
- 38:24Do you understand that? Yes.
- 38:26And count 2, disrupting public service.
- 38:29It's also a felony 4 with an 18 month maximum prison sentence
- 38:32and a $5000 maximum fine. Do you understand that?
- 38:35Yes, I could give you a consecutive sentence on that
- 38:38case. That means one sentence after
- 38:40another for the separate offenses.
- 38:41If I did that, the maximum prison sentence on that case
- 38:45would be 36 months of the maximum fine, $10,000.
- 38:48Do you understand that? Yes, the 348 case, failure to
- 38:55notify as a felony 5 it carries a 12 month maximum prison
- 38:59sentence and a $2500 maximum fine.
- 39:01Do you understand that? Yes.
- 39:03Now, if I made the sentences consecutive, not only count to
- 39:09count in the 53 case, but one case to the to the next and you
- 39:15face a maximum prison sentence of 48 months and a maximum fine
- 39:19of $12,500. Do you understand that?
- 39:22Yes. Any question about the
- 39:23penalties? No.
- 39:25All right. Are you presently on post
- 39:26release control to the Parole Authority?
- 39:29No. Do you understand that your
- 39:32felony conviction prevents you from owning or possessing A
- 39:35firearm? Yes.
- 39:37You understand that if a prison term is imposed in this case,
- 39:40you might have to serve a period of post release control as part
- 39:43of your sentence for up to two years under the parole
- 39:45authority, Yes, If you are placed on post release control
- 39:48and violate any conditions of parole authority could send you
- 39:51back to prison for up to nine months for each of your
- 39:53violations. Up to 1/2 of my sentence.
- 39:56Do you understand that? Yes.
- 39:58If that violation of post release control is a new felony,
- 40:01then you could get an additional consecutive prison sentence for
- 40:03their violation. Do you understand that?
- 40:05Yes. If that were to occur, the
- 40:07maximum prison sentence for the violation will be the greater of
- 40:1112 months or the time left under post release control.
- 40:14Do you understand that? Yes.
- 40:16Do you understand that if a prison term is imposed, you are
- 40:19eligible for judicial release? Yes.
- 40:22On these cases, I could put you on community control for up to
- 40:24five years, but if you violated the conditions I could send you
- 40:27to prison for 48 months. Do you understand that?
- 40:30Yes. Has anybody promised you that I
- 40:33would be lenient on you just because you're pleading guilty
- 40:35today? No.
- 40:37Has anybody promised you what I will sentence you to in this
- 40:39case? No.
- 40:40Do you understand I do not have to follow the sentencing
- 40:42recommendation of either the prosecutor?
- 40:44Or your lawyer. Yes.
- 40:46Have you had enough time to talk to Mr. Johnson before pleading
- 40:49guilty today? Yes.
- 40:51Has he discussed everything about your case and answered all
- 40:53of your questions? Yes.
- 40:55Are you satisfied with the advice he has given you?
- 40:57Yes. Have you been threatened or
- 40:59coerced in any way to plead guilty today?
- 41:01No. Are you freely, knowingly and
- 41:03voluntarily entering your guilty plea?
- 41:05Yes. Do you have any questions at
- 41:07this point? No all.
- 41:09Right, Miss Gold, If the 2653 case went to trial, what would
- 41:13the evidence show? Thank you your.
- 41:16Honor. The facts would show that on
- 41:17January 6th, 2020, sixth in Willoughby, Lake County, Ohio,
- 41:22the defendant struck Heather Conyers in the face with his
- 41:25hand, causing physical harm. She it was a household member.
- 41:32At that time. The defendant had been
- 41:33previously convicted of domestic violence in the Painesville
- 41:36Municipal Court, case number CRB Seven O 1, dated June 29th,
- 41:412000. When Miss Conyers tried to call
- 41:44911 to call the police to report what had just happened, the
- 41:49defendant took her phone and threw it to the ground, breaking
- 41:53it, which impeded her ability to call emergency services.
- 41:59All right, Mr. Johnson, anything to add to those facts?
- 42:03No, Jana. Mr. Bettinger, did you hear what
- 42:05Miss Gold said, that the facts would show if that case went to
- 42:08trial? Yes.
- 42:10Are those facts true? Yes.
- 42:13What is your plea to the lesser included offense and count 1
- 42:17domestic violence, a felony of the 4th degree?
- 42:19Guilty. What is your plea to count to
- 42:21disrupting public service a felony of the 4th degree?
- 42:24Guilty. Miss Gold.
- 42:26If 348 went to travel with the evidence show, the facts would
- 42:32show that between July 1st, 2025, and January 6th, 2020.
- 42:38Sixth, in Lake County, Ohio, the defendant knowingly and with
- 42:42sufficient culpability for Commission of the offensive,
- 42:45failure to notify engaged in conduct that would constitute
- 42:48that offense being that the defendant was residing in Lake
- 42:52County, Ohio, without personally going to the sheriff as required
- 42:57under Revised Code 2950.04 and registering with that sheriff
- 43:03his intent to reside in Lake County.
- 43:06All right. Mr. Johnson, anything those
- 43:10next. Mr. Bettinger, did you hear what
- 43:13Miss Gold said the facts would show if that case went to trial?
- 43:17Yes. And are those facts true?
- 43:20Yes. All right.
- 43:21What is your plea to the failure to register a felony of the 5th
- 43:24degree? I'm.
- 43:25Guilty. This is for Yeah, this is for
- 43:59the first case. Take that nose.
- 44:14What the other day is nothing OK.
- 45:06Right am right there date. Your Honor, I've.
- 45:50Witnessed Mr. Johnson and the defendant signed the written
- 45:52plea of guilty for both cases. All right, Mr. Bettinger on keys
- 46:0326053 on this written plea of guilty, is that your signature?
- 46:09Yes. Did you sign it voluntarily?
- 46:11Yes. And do you want me to?
- 46:12Accept your written plea of guilty.
- 46:14Yes, accept the written plea of guilty on 26.
- 46:21Wait a minute, I've got I've got zero 53 twice here.
- 46:41I need the 348 he he signed 53 twice, so I need the disruptor,
- 46:49the fair to register. OK.
- 47:33All right. On 348.
- 47:35Mr. Bettinger, is this your signature on the written plea of
- 47:38guilty? And did you sign that
- 47:40voluntarily? Do you want me to accept that
- 47:43written? Plea of guilty I'll.
- 47:45Accept the written plea of guilty.
- 47:46Defendant was president Mr. Johnson advised of all of his
- 47:49rights when the knowing intelligent voluntary waiver.
- 47:52He understands the nature of the charge of consequence of his
- 47:54guilty plea in the maximum penalty.
- 47:56Find it to be knowing, intelligent, voluntary.
- 47:59On three. On 53, I will accept his plea of
- 48:04guilty and find him guilty of the lesser included offense in
- 48:08Count 1, Domestic Violence Felony 4 and then Count 2,
- 48:11Disrupting Public Service Felony 4.
- 48:14On 26348 I will accept his written plea of guilty and find
- 48:19him guilty of failure to notify the Sheriff of residents for
- 48:23temporary domicile, A Felony. 5 I'm going to refer this to the
- 48:28probation department for presets report, drug and alcohol
- 48:30evaluation, victim impact statement.
- 48:33Sentencing will be on on both cases April 30 at 1:30.
- 48:38On 05/3 I'm going to revoke that bond and on 348 I'm not going to
- 48:43set a bond. Anything further in this gold?
- 48:46Nothing from the. State you're on Mr. Johnson,
- 48:49nothing further on. All right, we're adjourned.
- 48:51All right, once again, good morning everybody.
- 48:56TCF live. It's Thursday or Monday 4.
- 49:00I suppose to hang on your perspective.
- 49:03Let's a few different places we could go.
- 49:06Actually the courts are starting to really pop now, but let's go,
- 49:12let's go down to Florida. Wade Mercer for Brian Minchon.
- 49:19Thank you. Can you see and hear all of us,
- 49:20Corporal? Yes, I can.
- 49:22Perfect. Let's go ahead and take Mr.
- 49:24Graham's case first. Mr. Mitchon also has friends or
- 49:27family in the courtroom. Mr. Graham?
- 49:34Yep. Mr. Mitchon.
- 49:37Good morning, Mr. Mitchon. As you heard, your attorney, Mr.
- 49:39Graham, is present. Hold on.
- 49:42You said Mr. Graham. I'm sorry.
- 49:44I'm confused. Mr. Waylon Graham is the
- 49:46attorney. Mr. Minchon is the defendant.
- 49:48I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. We have a defendant named Mr.
- 49:52Graham. We'll do him in just a moment.
- 49:53So, Mr. Mr. Minchon, Mr. Brian Minchon, your mother, your
- 49:57father, your cousin and your sister all in the courtroom.
- 50:00Mr. Waylon Graham's representing you this morning.
- 50:02You're accused of one kind of sexual battery on a person less
- 50:04than 16 years of age. I read the complaint.
- 50:06There is probable cause in the complaint.
- 50:09Mr. Minchon, I believe you have little or no prior criminal
- 50:13history. I think no prior criminal
- 50:15history is what I saw this morning.
- 50:16So I'm going to listen to Mr. Graham, I'm going to listen to
- 50:18the State, and then we're going to set your bond or release
- 50:21conditions. Mr. Graham, Anything on behalf
- 50:23of Mr. Minchon, Sir. Yes, Sir.
- 50:25There's several things you need to know.
- 50:26This investigation had gone on for, I don't know, maybe a
- 50:29couple of weeks, Your Honor. During that period of time, we
- 50:32were fully aware of the investigation and I talked to
- 50:35the case agent several times. During that period of time, we
- 50:38made arrangements for Mr. Manchon to voluntarily surrender
- 50:41should they develop sufficient probable cause.
- 50:44During that period of time, Mr. Manchon made no effort at all to
- 50:47flee the jurisdiction. He stayed in touch with me
- 50:49nonstop and when I got a call from the investigator that they
- 50:54had to sign warrant, we made arrangements for him to
- 50:56voluntarily surrender last night at 8:00 PM and his mother took
- 51:00him up there. A few things you need to know.
- 51:03To my knowledge, he has no prior criminal record.
- 51:05His mom and dad grew up in Jackson County.
- 51:09His grandparents were born and raised in Jackson County, and
- 51:12then his great grandparents were in Jackson County.
- 51:15His mother works for Homeland Security.
- 51:18This young man is not a flat risk.
- 51:20He has extremely strong ties to the community going back 3
- 51:24generations and judge. The other thing that I just want
- 51:26to touch on, this is not a case of some type of pervert hiding
- 51:31in a park to molest a little bitty girl.
- 51:34Mr. Minchon is a teenager. He had a consensual interaction
- 51:37with another teenager and here we are.
- 51:41Judge, can I add something if Mr. Graham don't mind?
- 51:43Also, just to let you court be aware, he's a senior at Mariana
- 51:46High School as well. Thank you, Mr. Graham And I, in
- 51:50reading the complaint, I think I'm probably the judge that
- 51:51signed the warrant. And I don't disagree with
- 51:53anything you said. It was a consensual act.
- 51:56But under Florida law, the the alleged victim was of such a
- 51:59young age, they can't legally consent.
- 52:01Although actually that may be a a a factor at some point.
- 52:05Mr. Mitchell, anything on behalf of the state, I guess the only
- 52:08thing that we can add to that is that is a condition of his bond.
- 52:11We add the standard that usually comes with this, which is no
- 52:14unsupervised contact with minors.
- 52:17The problem is his age and he's in student status.
- 52:19So we have to figure out a way to do that.
- 52:21I think you could add the condition outside of school.
- 52:25The the problem with that is if he plays a sport or goes to
- 52:28sporting events or even the prom, you know, or homecoming,
- 52:31that's that's an issue. My my preference would obviously
- 52:34there's going to be a condition no contact with the alleged
- 52:35victim. Are there other conditions other
- 52:37than that person that, and I'm not I'm not deaf to your
- 52:43request. We need to keep him away from
- 52:45any minors in a in a car, you know, So how do we do that?
- 52:50But at the same time, you know, give him some flexibility to to
- 52:54attend normal high school events as long as they're safe.
- 52:57Just a second. You don't have to say anything
- 52:58because you got an attorney, you got a very good attorney.
- 53:00Let the attorney speak and he'll he'll say anything he needs to
- 53:02say. Mr. Mitchell, any other ways we
- 53:04may be able to craft that? And we'll see what Mr. Graham's
- 53:06suggestions are. I think given this situation,
- 53:09and also I believe Mr. Graham's probably going to emphasize that
- 53:13with this defendant about the dangers of the charge that he's
- 53:17faced, and we we're fine with just no contact.
- 53:20With the victim. So let's talk about bond.
- 53:22I can't give a condition release on the 1st degree of felony, but
- 53:25I also I'm aware of the, the, the allegations, Mr. Graham that
- 53:29you pointed out. So it's not your typical charge
- 53:32of sexual battery. It's a very atypical charge.
- 53:35So Mr. Graham, the first question is, I have and I do
- 53:40fairly commonly set a cash bond, but only if both sides agree and
- 53:43you're aware of the statute as well as I am that kind of
- 53:46prohibits that. But if both sides agree, I don't
- 53:48have a problem doing that. Is your client's preference a
- 53:50cash bond or a surety bond? Knowing that I would normally do
- 53:54is I would set the 10% they would pay a bondsman as the cash
- 53:57bond if I'm going to set a cash bomb.
- 53:59Mr. Graham, have you had a chance to talk to your client
- 54:01about that possibility? What what I would like to do,
- 54:03Judge, if I'm understanding you right, you, when you do it a
- 54:06certain way, they can pay the 10% to to your destiny at the
- 54:12courthouse. And then when the case is over,
- 54:14they get that back? Sort of.
- 54:16They I just had a cash bond. They pay it to the jail like a
- 54:18normal cash bond. And if the case is dismissed,
- 54:21it's returned. If the case is not dismissed,
- 54:23and I'm talking to the family, Mr. Graham, if the case is not
- 54:26dismissed and then the Florida law, if there are fines and
- 54:28court costs to pay owed, it goes towards fines and court costs
- 54:31and the balance is then returned to whoever posted the cash bond.
- 54:35OK. I like the way, I like the way
- 54:39you normally do it, Judge. Mr. Mitchell, what are your
- 54:43thoughts on the cash bond? First of all, I know there's no
- 54:48restitution owed and normally I really like that was restitution
- 54:51owed. But it's a person with no prior
- 54:53charges here, so I don't know if you could consider it
- 54:55restitution, but there was like a sexual assault kit that was
- 54:58done. There may be costs that come
- 55:00about that, I don't know for certain.
- 55:02But as it pertains to the cash bond, I have no objection to it.
- 55:06Given the seriousness of the charge as well as the points
- 55:09that Mister Graham has point out in favor of Mr. mentioned,
- 55:11what's the state suggested bond in this case?
- 55:13I know I normally don't ask, but in this case, this is not your
- 55:16typical first degree felony. Yeah, this it still is a first
- 55:21degree felony, but we could probably treat it as maybe a
- 55:23second degree felony bond type bond purpose or?
- 55:27Thank you, Mr. Graham. Any suggestion bond.
- 55:29Any suggested bond request, Sir? Well, Judge, it is low as
- 55:33possible, but within reason. The family is not wealthy and
- 55:40they're just not wealthy honor. They're just good hard working
- 55:43folks. So reasonable.
- 55:46But be as gentle as you can judge.
- 55:48What I'm going to do is I'm going to set a $3500 cash only
- 55:51bond. That's the equivalent of a
- 55:53$35,000 surety bond. So it's $3500 cash.
- 55:56So what that means to the family, you post $3500 cash, the
- 56:00jail will send it to the clerk. The clerk holds it.
- 56:02If the case against him is dismissed, that money's returned
- 56:04to whoever posted it if it's not dismissed.
- 56:06I've already explained the process, but normally this
- 56:10charge with without little different facts is $100,000 bond
- 56:14in Jackson County most of the time.
- 56:16So be aware of that. So as soon as that cash bond is
- 56:18posted, there's going to be a condition.
- 56:20No contact with alleged victim Mr. I.
- 56:25Don't know the curfew is really appropriate with this kind of
- 56:27case. Although this supposedly
- 56:28happened late at night. I'm considering a curfew to the
- 56:31family. Well, is there a, is there a
- 56:33curfew that might keep him? I just want to keep him on the
- 56:35straight and narrow till this case is over.
- 56:37This supposedly happened 2-3 or 4:00 in the morning or something
- 56:39like that. What is his normal schedule As
- 56:41far as our Mr. Graham, you may be able to speak to this.
- 56:45If I'm opposing A curfew, I don't want to restrict him from
- 56:47from extracurricular activities, but obviously he needs to be in
- 56:49bed at a certain time. Mr. Graham.
- 56:51Any input on that, Judge? His mother's in the courtroom
- 56:54and she, she is a, let's just say a very tough mom.
- 56:58Do you mind asking her? Because I think she she would
- 57:01probably error on the side got a caution and let can we listen to
- 57:04her? Yes Sir.
- 57:05I think it's a great idea. Ma'am.
- 57:09Is there a suggested time frame 10?
- 57:1311. Until when?
- 57:15What time do you have to go to school or work or whatever?
- 57:17Right. Now what?
- 57:20He's. Doing his alternative.
- 57:25Placement. Yes, ma'am.
- 57:27OK, we're going to say, what do you think, 11 to 6, Mr.
- 57:29Mitchell? I was going to say maybe. 5:50.
- 57:32We've seen that one in the past. Is there anything, I don't know
- 57:37of anything that we've been on at school that would be after
- 57:3910:00 PM, ma'am, Is there 10:00 PM to 6:00 AM?
- 57:42Is that what I said? 10:00 PM to 6:00 AM.
- 57:44Is your curfew. Mr. mentioned if you're with a
- 57:47parent, there's an exception to that curfew.
- 57:49So if you're with one of your parents, no problem.
- 57:51If y'all got to go somewhere or run somewhere or taking a trip,
- 57:53that's fine. Unless you're with a parent,
- 57:55you've got to be home between the hours of 10:00 PM and 6:00
- 57:58AM. As soon as that cash bond is
- 57:59posted, you'll be released. What we also going to go ahead
- 58:02and give you a tentative notice for your court date.
- 58:05Mr. Graham. We started doing that at request
- 58:07of Judge Garcia and this is just a kind of a tracking mechanism.
- 58:10The state may not have even filed information by this date,
- 58:12but that court date will be April the 7th.
- 58:15April 7th at 8:30. This one's in the afternoon
- 58:18since he'll be on the private attorney doc.
- 58:20It's so 130. April 7th at 1:30.
- 58:22Mr. Graham, Obviously that subject be changed upon the
- 58:24following of an appropriate motion by your office.
- 58:26Let me see if the family has any questions.
- 58:28Family have any questions, Mr. Graham, you think I miss from
- 58:32your perspective? No, Sir.
- 58:33Judge, you were very, very fair to us.
- 58:35And Mr. Mitchell also was. And I want to thank both of
- 58:38y'all. Mr. Graham, I appreciate you
- 58:40being here. A lot of attorneys don't show up
- 58:42at first appearance when they get hired.
- 58:44They show up later at an arraignment date.
- 58:45So it says something, Mr. Graham, but he's he's here this
- 58:48morning. Mr. Mitchell, anything.
- 58:50Thank you, Mr. Graham, for appearing.
- 58:52Thank y'all for coming. All right.
- 58:56I don't normally pause, but I'm going to pause just for a minute
- 58:59based on what we just saw. So I looked it up because in
- 59:03Texas, at 17 years old, they're like automatically treated as
- 59:08adults. So I was curious if it was the
- 59:10same thing in Florida. It is not.
- 59:14A prosecutor in Florida can do what's called a direct file,
- 59:17which kind of bypasses the juvenile, the juvenile
- 59:23situation, the juvenile process and puts them into an adult
- 59:28court. But there was no indication that
- 59:30that's what was done here. So I'm guessing he's 18, but we
- 59:33don't know for sure. It sounds like the the girl was
- 59:39in the same school, but we don't know for sure.
- 59:42So worst case, if she's a freshman, 1415.
- 59:51And just because I'm curious now.
- 59:59Florida age of consent, Florida age of consent is 18.
- 1:00:08But statutory. You know what law does not apply
- 1:00:13to individuals who are 16 or 17 if their partners or individuals
- 1:00:17who are 24 years of age or younger?
- 1:00:20So I would guess based on this that he's 18.
- 1:00:25And she's 14 or 15, so he probably got with a freshman.
- 1:00:28That's what this sounds like. Now they're arguing consensual,
- 1:00:33but there was a kit that was done, an assault kit.
- 1:00:37So either the defense is making that argument, but it's not
- 1:00:41true, or it was consensual, but the girl's parents found out,
- 1:00:47took her in and had a kit done. That's another angle here.
- 1:00:50There's a lot we don't know about this Ashley, if you could
- 1:00:55take note of of this person's name and we can try to to follow
- 1:01:01him if we can. If he ends up in front of a a
- 1:01:04felony judge, who will who will stream?
- 1:01:07But I just wanted to give you more context based on what we
- 1:01:10know, based on the laws. So it sounds like he's 18 and
- 1:01:14she's 14 or 15. That's my best guess anyway.
- 1:01:16So let's get back to it. We do have one more person that
- 1:01:18has friends or family here. Wish you the best Mr. Mention
- 1:01:23and that is to Adrian Graham. Mr. Graham.
- 1:01:31Good morning, Mr. Graham. Your mother is in the courtroom.
- 1:01:33You have a hold out of Washington County.
- 1:01:35Mr. Graham. I took a look at the warrant in
- 1:01:37that case and it's another. There's no bond on the warrant.
- 1:01:40So Mr. Graham, what that means is you'll be held with until you
- 1:01:42get to Washington County. That could happen today.
- 1:01:45Today is a Thursday. It also could happen in the next
- 1:01:48day or two. But when you get to Washington
- 1:01:50County, you'll go before a local judge and that judge will
- 1:01:52address your bond. And I saw a pending case, so I'm
- 1:01:56not sure if this allegedly occurred after that pending case
- 1:01:58or not. That's something that judge will
- 1:02:00look at. So you may or you may not get a
- 1:02:02bond once you get over there, am I right?
- 1:02:05You do have a pending case, correct?
- 1:02:06Yeah. Am I wrong?
- 1:02:0822 bond, 22 warrants. 66 and 60. 8 Both at the same time.
- 1:02:15Mr. Graham, you do not have a pending case.
- 1:02:18I'm out on bond. Oh yeah.
- 1:02:21So he's you're out on bond, but what I don't know is if this
- 1:02:23charge allegedly occurred after he was out on bond.
- 1:02:25If it did, the judge over there very well may revoke his bond if
- 1:02:29it. Didn't.
- 1:02:30It can't revoke his bond if it happened before.
- 1:02:32So I'm talking to your mom now. He'll go to Washington County
- 1:02:36probably the next couple of days, possibly even today, and
- 1:02:38he'll go to another first appearance.
- 1:02:40He may or may not get a bond depending upon those factors I
- 1:02:43mentioned. Ma'am, do you have any
- 1:02:44questions? Mr. Graham, do you have any
- 1:02:48questions? All right.
- 1:02:51Wish you the best, Sir. Mr. Graham, there is a condition
- 1:02:54no contact with alleged victim. So, Corporal, make sure you know
- 1:02:57there's a condition. No contact with alleged victim,
- 1:02:59please. Yes, Sir, I will.
- 1:03:02Thank you. And we can go back to the top of
- 1:03:04our list. Then the next case will be
- 1:03:05Charles Gilly. Thank you.
- 1:03:08You give me just a second, I guess, Peter.
- 1:03:23Mr. Gilly. Good morning.
- 1:03:24Mr. Gilly, you're here for first appearance accused of 1 count of
- 1:03:27resisting an officer with with violence and one count of
- 1:03:29battery on an officer, firefighter, EMT or healthcare
- 1:03:31professional. I believe it's a healthcare
- 1:03:34professional of the allegations in your case.
- 1:03:37I'm not positive. I did read the complaint.
- 1:03:40Yeah. Hospital personnel.
- 1:03:41Is that the same statute They're getting charged with EMT.
- 1:03:45So I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's appropriate
- 1:03:48or not, but that's how they get charged.
- 1:03:50Hospital personnel and EMT, it's the same degree crime.
- 1:03:55I'm not sure if that's the same. Anyway, it's the same degree
- 1:03:59crime. So third degree of felony, Mr.
- 1:04:01Gilly. So there is probable cause.
- 1:04:02But Mr. Gilly, my review of your criminal history is that you
- 1:04:05have no prior criminal history. So Mr. Gilly, I'm going to
- 1:04:08appoint the public, there's office to represent you for
- 1:04:10first appearance purposes. Listen to Mr. McDaniel and Mr.
- 1:04:13Mitchell and then we'll see where we go from here.
- 1:04:15Mr. McDaniel. Your Honor, Mr. Gilly has been,
- 1:04:18you know, he had surgery on his recently had surgery on his hip
- 1:04:22and they tried try to repair that.
- 1:04:23I think it's been in the rehab for about a year.
- 1:04:26And, you know, they got him on all kind of medications and
- 1:04:29stuff. And, you know, I talked to him,
- 1:04:30he's very confused and, and he does not recall anything.
- 1:04:35And, you know, I just, I think this may be more of a, some kind
- 1:04:38of medical issue than there's a crime.
- 1:04:41I'm just asking the court to maybe give him an ROR.
- 1:04:44I think that the I know that the life management interviewed him
- 1:04:49yesterday and they felt like he needed to be Baker acted and
- 1:04:52that Baker act has been completed.
- 1:04:54And so if he's released, he would go to the Baker facility
- 1:04:58at that point in time. You know, he said I was going to
- 1:05:00go back to some rehab, you know, I suspect back to the same
- 1:05:03rehab. I don't know.
- 1:05:04But you know, my speaking with him though is I he's just
- 1:05:08confused and he don't, he don't understand really what's going
- 1:05:11on. And I don't think he really they
- 1:05:14may. And I don't know if it's the
- 1:05:14medications he's on or if it's diabetes or he has a lot of
- 1:05:19physical ailments and he's not but 58.
- 1:05:21But age-related issues are not necessarily based on age.
- 1:05:26They're based on life conditions and health also.
- 1:05:29And I I'm not sure for sure, he may not have some issues related
- 1:05:32to age-related issues and health related issues affecting his
- 1:05:35cognitive abilities. Thank you, Mr. Mitchell.
- 1:05:42Your Honor, we're not opposed to the ROR condition as long as we
- 1:05:48can make sure that once the ROR is in place, he does go to the
- 1:05:51Baker Act facility. And the and the.
- 1:05:54Baker Act has already been signed.
- 1:05:55Correct. Yes, Sir, and.
- 1:05:56It's it's valid for a certain period of what, 48 hours, I
- 1:05:59think your e-mail said so Mr. Gilly, Mr. Gilly, do you have
- 1:06:02any questions, Sir? That is right.
- 1:06:06OK. So, Mr. Gilly, you're 58 with no
- 1:06:08prior history and, and now all of a sudden you've got these
- 1:06:10charges. That's that's very unusual to
- 1:06:13see someone with no prior history at your age have these
- 1:06:16charges. When you read the complaint, it
- 1:06:17does appear Mr. McDaniel may be exactly correct.
- 1:06:20It makes you wonder if there's some, some kind of underlying
- 1:06:22medical issue. I have, I have no idea, but it
- 1:06:26certainly makes me wonder if someone's 58 years old, never
- 1:06:29been charged with anything the day in their life, and then all
- 1:06:31of a sudden they got a felony charge for value on a medical
- 1:06:35provider. Mr. Gilly, I don't grant many RO
- 1:06:38Rs, but I'm going to grant you one in this case because I think
- 1:06:40that's the the right thing to do.
- 1:06:42I need you to get down there to the program and get them
- 1:06:44evaluated. If there's some kind of medical
- 1:06:46issue underlying or some kind of medication issue, hope they're
- 1:06:49going to get that figured out and get you treated.
- 1:06:52So the only thing I need you to do between now and your next
- 1:06:54court aid is stay out of trouble.
- 1:06:55So don't be charged with any crimes.
- 1:06:57I'm going to grant you the relief from your owner
- 1:06:58cognizance. That's what a ROR is.
- 1:07:00I want to ask a jail to give you a notice for your court date,
- 1:07:03and that would be April the 7th. I'm presuming at 8:30.
- 1:07:05You want April 7th or May? I mean, I it's today's March
- 1:07:1019th. Are you requesting May?
- 1:07:12I'm just, you know, I don't know what life energy, I don't know
- 1:07:14what the Baker facility is going to do.
- 1:07:16So I mean that no matter what, he's probably going to.
- 1:07:18Be in a. Facility, he ain't going to show
- 1:07:19up anyway. So give the state time to, you
- 1:07:22know, to facilitate some kind of.
- 1:07:25You know, meeting on. YouTube or something?
- 1:07:27An objection to the may date. I have no objection.
- 1:07:29When would that be? Please give him a date for May
- 1:07:325th at 8:30, Corporal. May 5th at 8:30.
- 1:07:35So Mr. Gilly, they're going to get you down to the to the Bay
- 1:07:39facility in Bay County and they'll look at your medications
- 1:07:41you're on, they'll do some tests and see if any of that may have
- 1:07:44contributed to this charge you've got.
- 1:07:46And then that'll be your court date.
- 1:07:48So Mr. Gilly, just stay out of trouble between now and then.
- 1:07:50Mr. Gilly, do you have any questions?
- 1:07:54Wish you the best, Mr. Gilly. Yes, Sir, we have Isaiah Dudley
- 1:08:00next. Mr. Dudley, did you receive a
- 1:08:07complaint for that one for Mr. Dudley?
- 1:08:10Did I see the complaint? Well, yeah, it was filed.
- 1:08:13It went Reddit yesterday. OK.
- 1:08:15I couldn't. I didn't know the case number.
- 1:08:17So that's what I was. Oh, there it is right there.
- 1:08:19Yeah. So I think this one, when they
- 1:08:21submitted originally, they had their case, their agency case
- 1:08:24number on the warrant, and I had to reject it because the clerk's
- 1:08:29case number has to go there. I got you.
- 1:08:31But the one I have has 26-118. MMM.
- 1:08:37Isaiah Dudley. Mr. Dudley, Come on up.
- 1:08:41Mr. Dudley. Good morning.
- 1:08:41Mr. Dudley. You're here for first appearance
- 1:08:43of two counts of misdemeanor battery.
- 1:08:45Mr. Dudley. There is probable cause for the
- 1:08:47charge, Mr. Dudley, according to the complaint.
- 1:08:50I haven't seen the video, but according to the complaint,
- 1:08:51there's video evidence that corroborates their version of
- 1:08:54what happened. Mr. Dudley, I'm going to appoint
- 1:08:56the public defenders office represent you.
- 1:08:58I'm going to ask that you listen to the two attorneys and I'm
- 1:09:01going to set you a bond or consider release options in just
- 1:09:03a moment. Mr. McDaniel.
- 1:09:04Anything John or if you know the complaint with this in the video
- 1:09:08is accurate. It's, you know, troublesome.
- 1:09:10I think it's probably more closely related to a disorderly
- 1:09:12conduct than a battery, but they may be probably it's a close
- 1:09:15call and probably calls them get does say they tries to, you
- 1:09:19know, you know, I don't know if it actually says.
- 1:09:21The video that. Actually touched to read thing.
- 1:09:24I think that it was. That.
- 1:09:26Them just saying that the video I don't think showed that when I
- 1:09:28read the complaint, if I recall and it's clearly it may show a
- 1:09:32disorderly conduct charge and we're just asking for bond
- 1:09:35taking under the circumstances of it.
- 1:09:37You know, you know, Mr. Dudley should know better his age.
- 1:09:41But you know, if it's accurate, Mr. Dudley, I mean, if there's a
- 1:09:45video of it. But y'all I'm.
- 1:09:49Going to give you a chance in just a second, Mr. Dudley.
- 1:09:50Let me listen to the attorneys and I'm going to see if you have
- 1:09:52any questions. Anything else, Mr. About Daniel?
- 1:09:55Mr. Mitchell, Your Honor, I just looked at the complaint after I
- 1:09:59pulled it up there. Allegations that he was
- 1:10:02intoxicated when this occurred. So we would request a condition
- 1:10:05that he not possessed or consume alcohol as a condition of his
- 1:10:08bond. We'll leave it up to bond like
- 1:10:12total to the court. Thank you, Mr. Dudley.
- 1:10:16Please don't talk about what you're accused of.
- 1:10:17We are being recorded and I don't want you to say anything
- 1:10:19that hurts you. Having said that, if you have a
- 1:10:22question or if there's something you think I need to know for
- 1:10:24bond purposes, I'm glad to listen.
- 1:10:26But I would suggest you talk about the incident itself that
- 1:10:28you're accused of. Any questions or anything you
- 1:10:30think I need to know for bond purposes?
- 1:10:32Yes, Sir. Johanna Bond purposes nails
- 1:10:37Dudley I am good but but Johanna I got another court date coming
- 1:10:42up too see about the my divorce and dealing with my child.
- 1:10:48That's been why and and then my house has got wide open and it
- 1:10:52caved in. I've been working on my trailer.
- 1:10:55I don't I don't I don't see nothing I did wrong.
- 1:10:58I really don't, but I need to I'll just say for him.
- 1:11:01I mean, he's a lifelong resident of their needs area.
- 1:11:03I mean, he's been in court before on various minor charges
- 1:11:07like this and never had anything serious charges against him,
- 1:11:09just minor charges. And he's never not appeared for
- 1:11:12court date or never not done whether the court instructed him
- 1:11:15to do. He's completed probation I think
- 1:11:17even before in the past when some of these minor charges.
- 1:11:19So we just ask the court take those things into consideration.
- 1:11:22Thank you, Mr. Dudley. These are these are two accounts
- 1:11:25allegedly closed in time on the same alleged victim.
- 1:11:28So for bond purposes, I'm going to treat them as one account.
- 1:11:31Set you 11 bond, the equivalent of what I'm going to set you a
- 1:11:34bond. That's the equivalent of what I
- 1:11:35would set on one case instead of two.
- 1:11:36Their bonds going to be $12150 on each case.
- 1:11:39That means your total bond is $2500.
- 1:11:41It's cash or surety. Cash or surety means you don't
- 1:11:43have to come up with all the money.
- 1:11:44You can go through a bondsman. 10% of 2500 is $250.
- 1:11:49Mr. Dudley, because this and your last half dozen, the rest
- 1:11:52or so have all involved alcohol, you do have a condition not to
- 1:11:55possess or consume alcoholic beverages as part of your bond.
- 1:11:58The jail will give you a notice for your court date that will be
- 1:12:0330th March 30th. March 30th at 8:30 will be your
- 1:12:07court date. Mr. Dudley, every time I see you
- 1:12:09in court it's alcohol related. And then just keep in mind if
- 1:12:11you get caught drinking or possessing alcohol, that will
- 1:12:13violate your bond. But it's a $250 bond.
- 1:12:17If you go through a bondsman and they charge you the normal 10%,
- 1:12:20you will get to use the phone in a few minutes.
- 1:12:21Sir, you do have a condition of no contact, the alleged victim
- 1:12:24and no contact, which was it? Dollar General?
- 1:12:27Yes, no contact with any Dollar General.
- 1:12:29And the reason I'm doing any Dollar General is because she
- 1:12:32might, sometimes they work at different locations and I don't
- 1:12:34want you to run into her. So go to Dollar Tree or go to
- 1:12:38don't sell the Family Dollar or Walmart or wherever to get, you
- 1:12:40know, don't go to any Dollar General because I don't want you
- 1:12:42this thing to get any worse. Mr. Dudley, do you have any
- 1:12:45questions, Sir? Yes, Sir.
- 1:12:47Well, when the ladies, when the lady said.
- 1:12:49Well, I don't want. You back here on the premises
- 1:12:51anymore? So I just left.
- 1:12:53I ain't been back since. I didn't know what was going on
- 1:12:56anyway. My mom, my mom was focusing on
- 1:13:00back there in the house and dealing with my child.
- 1:13:03Well, hopefully you're going to get out of there today.
- 1:13:05Hopefully you'll post that bond and you'll get to use the phone
- 1:13:07in just a few minutes. Sir, we have James.
- 1:13:11That's $250. If you go through a.
- 1:13:14Bondsman and they charge you 10%, it'd be $250.
- 1:13:17They may charge you the less than that and pay and pay and
- 1:13:19work on payments on the rest, but they charge the full 10%
- 1:13:22upfront, it'd be $250. Yes, Sir.
- 1:13:25OK, thank you. Have a good day.
- 1:13:29We have James Tucker next. Mr. Tucker.
- 1:13:35Good morning, Mr. Tucker. You're here for one count.
- 1:13:37You're accused of 1 count of driving while license suspended
- 1:13:41as an habitual traffic offender. You're accused of a third degree
- 1:13:43felony. I think you're already out on
- 1:13:45bond, Mr. Tucker. Is that correct?
- 1:13:47Yes, Sir, but I've never had Mr. Tucker.
- 1:13:50I'll speak, Mr. Tucker. I'll speak before you hang on.
- 1:13:52So Mr. Mitchell, Corporal, help me out with this.
- 1:13:56We requested a drug test this morning because that was a
- 1:13:59condition of his bond. And Mr. Goodson told me that
- 1:14:02Mister Goodson had been informed by the jail that Mister Tucker's
- 1:14:05not willing to give a drug test. Is that right?
- 1:14:07Corporal. Correct.
- 1:14:09I want to know about the other thing I was talking about
- 1:14:11though. Doesn't matter if you don't give
- 1:14:14a drug test. I'm going to vote your bond
- 1:14:15either way. I get that, I'm saying.
- 1:14:16I love my bonds to vote, but I'm talking to Mr. Tucker.
- 1:14:19I'll take care of this, Mr. Tucker, let me talk.
- 1:14:21So on the charge itself, Mr. on the bond, on that charge, Mr.
- 1:14:25McDaniel, anything, you know, we understand what the Court's been
- 1:14:28doing the whole of that bond. But I mean, I've dealt with Mr.
- 1:14:30Tucker several times and he's never had a driver's license in
- 1:14:32his life. So it's almost an impossibility
- 1:14:35that his license or habitualized because he's never had a
- 1:14:38driver's license. You know, I understand that it's
- 1:14:42going to be a difference without a whole lot of difference, but
- 1:14:45you know, I I don't think he's ever had a driver's license.
- 1:14:47I just got off my recollection with him in the past, the same
- 1:14:50charges and his pending case is actually a no valid driver's
- 1:14:54license, the one that he's on bond on.
- 1:14:57So you're thinking it may wind up being a different charge,
- 1:14:59maybe like being no valid eventually it's a no valid, but
- 1:15:02you know, I don't it's a difference without any except
- 1:15:04it's just not. Thank you.
- 1:15:07Thank you for that. Mister Mitchell, anything.
- 1:15:11I have no objection if you want to treat this as kind of like a
- 1:15:14no valid DL charge instead of habitual.
- 1:15:16But like I said, like like you said, we're requesting those
- 1:15:20bond be revoked in 25559 CF Yeah.
- 1:15:24So I think Mr. McDaniel is right looking at his driving record
- 1:15:26here. So Mr. Tucker, what I'm going to
- 1:15:29do for bond purposes only, I'm going to treat this as a as a
- 1:15:31multiple no valid driver's license.
- 1:15:33Your bond's going to be $5000 cash or surety.
- 1:15:35I am revoking your bond in case 25-559-CF for multiple reasons.
- 1:15:41Number one, you got a new charge #2 you had a condition of no
- 1:15:44driving in that charge #3 you refuse your analysis, which are
- 1:15:47all conditions of his bond. So Mr. Mitchell, if you can give
- 1:15:50me an order voking his bond because there's probable cause
- 1:15:53for those things, I'd appreciate it.
- 1:15:55So Mr. Tucker, we're going to give you a court date for felony
- 1:15:57court, which is April the 7th. But if the state does changes to
- 1:16:03a misdemeanor, I may see you in misdemeanor court.
- 1:16:06As far as your bond being revoked, you'll get a different
- 1:16:08court date in that case. Mr. Tucker, any questions?
- 1:16:12All. Right, so I wish you the best.
- 1:16:14So if. We, if we make this a no valid
- 1:16:17DLI, think his court date would be April 9th since he'll be in
- 1:16:20the jail. You've got time to look at that
- 1:16:22and see what y'all want to do. But looking at the driving
- 1:16:25history in front of me, it looks like he's never had a looks like
- 1:16:28he's never had a driver's license.
- 1:16:29So I think Mr. Maidana might be right changing.
- 1:16:32It. Now.
- 1:16:34Mr. Mitchell, anything else for appearance purposes?
- 1:16:36For first appearances? No, Your Honor and Corporal,
- 1:16:39anything else? All right, since they're
- 1:16:42wrapping it up, let's head back up to Michigan.
- 1:16:45Judge Dad say good morning there.
- 1:16:49Starting April 6th. Can you do that?
- 1:16:52Yeah. What are you going to do?
- 1:16:53If you don't have the money, then I'll have the money.
- 1:16:56If you don't have the money, what are you going to do?
- 1:16:58You're going to call the court or come up, Your Honor, before
- 1:17:00that due date and I'll give you an extension.
- 1:17:03Just don't ignore me. I hate that, OK.
- 1:17:06And you ignore this on this defective equipment ticket too.
- 1:17:12I'm going to dismiss the show cause and I'm going to give you
- 1:17:14until April 30 to pay this one. Now, if you need more money or
- 1:17:19no more time, what are you going to do?
- 1:17:23And talk to me, right? Yes.
- 1:17:25And it request an extension, right?
- 1:17:27And I'll grant it. But don't ignore me again.
- 1:17:30I'm not going to be this nice next time.
- 1:17:31Are we with one another? Yeah.
- 1:17:33Good. See how easy this is?
- 1:17:36Good luck. Johnson or a Terrius Brandon
- 1:17:43Johnson 26B15O198A and B&C. How you doing?
- 1:17:53Not bad. You not that good.
- 1:17:55From here. Your name you're charged with
- 1:17:58resistant and or obstructing an officer with possession of
- 1:18:00controlled substance and you have a civil infraction charge
- 1:18:03of expired plate. You have the right to an
- 1:18:04attorney if you want one. I will give you 1.
- 1:18:07Would you like a lawyer? Yes, Sir.
- 1:18:09OK. Go off the hallway, they will
- 1:18:12set you up. You will have a chance to talk
- 1:18:15to a lawyer today. OK.
- 1:18:17You're welcome. Hi, Della Garza, Sofia.
- 1:18:27Della Garza 26-F245507. Could I have,
- 1:18:43is somebody here for tire service, tree service or tree
- 1:18:46service? Yes.
- 1:18:48OK. All right.
- 1:18:49Your name, ma'am. You're charged with disorderly
- 1:18:53conduct, public intoxication. You have the right to a lawyer.
- 1:18:56Would you like 1? I'll go ahead and arraign you
- 1:18:59and we'll go from there. And then I'm going to send you
- 1:19:00to the prosecutor then. OK to talk.
- 1:19:03Do you understand that? You understand that?
- 1:19:07Yes. All right.
- 1:19:08So you're charged with disorderly kind of public
- 1:19:12intoxication, that police think that this occurred in the city
- 1:19:16of Flat Rock, County of Lane on Telegraph near Vreeland.
- 1:19:20They think you were stumbled and fell face first under the
- 1:19:23roadway, almost getting struck by a car.
- 1:19:25That's a misdemeanor punishable by up to 500 fines, 90 days jail
- 1:19:29costs are all those. Do you understand that, ma'am?
- 1:19:31Yes. And did you sign an advisor
- 1:19:34rights form here today and read it and understand it?
- 1:19:37Yes, you plead guilty. You'll be giving up all those
- 1:19:39rights on the advisor rights and there will be no hearing your
- 1:19:42trials. You understand that yes, you
- 1:19:48have the right to a lawyer. You still wish to waive your
- 1:19:51right to a lawyer. I wish to.
- 1:19:54I don't. I'm entering on that.
- 1:19:57OK, hang on. Are you from Mount Pleasant?
- 1:20:00Yes. You drove here from Mount
- 1:20:02Pleasant? No, I'm in a situation here
- 1:20:04right now where I'm homeless and but then I found out I got in
- 1:20:10Bargain and Mount Pleasant, so I'm moving with that.
- 1:20:14All right, I'm going to enter in a guilty plea, $500 personal
- 1:20:17bond. You don't have to post any
- 1:20:19money. No alcohol, no will leave the
- 1:20:22controlled substances, no marijuana.
- 1:20:24You cannot leave the state without the consent of the
- 1:20:26court. To violate the law, you must
- 1:20:28appear in court as directive. Go talk to the prosecutor, OK?
- 1:20:32See what he'll work out for you. You've had nothing since 2003,
- 1:20:36right? All right, don't.
- 1:20:38Don't be upset here. It's not the end of the world.
- 1:20:41OK. Good luck.
- 1:20:45Tree Service of Troy, 261-5050. Eight.
- 1:20:57Good morning. Your name.
- 1:21:00So you're in bankruptcy, The company is.
- 1:21:04So what did the two of you agree on?
- 1:21:08They said come in here and see you.
- 1:21:10Advise you to be federal. Were you in the room right of
- 1:21:16Jason here too? What room is this?
- 1:21:33Drinks, opening the shoes. Is that ext 237, Heather?
- 1:21:48I'm sorry, Judge, what was that? The jury assembly or the
- 1:21:53prosecutor's room adjacent to Judge Hessen's.
- 1:21:56Port. That is where Brownstown is,
- 1:22:00Courtroom 2 there. So is that 237 that?
- 1:22:08No it is not. I don't believe there's a phone
- 1:22:10in that 1237's the conference room, not the actual courtroom.
- 1:22:23You're so backed up right now and just have a seat at the
- 1:22:26table right behind you. I'll have you out of here in 5
- 1:22:29minutes, OK? You can have a seat right at
- 1:22:31that table. Amy.
- 1:22:34I'm going to need Miss Foley. Carter.
- 1:22:39Shawn Michael Wilson the second. Sir, I'm going to ask you to
- 1:22:42take your hat off in the back, please.
- 1:22:44Your hat. Shawn Michael Wilson, the 2nd
- 1:22:482623, B 143763. Your name was there?
- 1:22:57Was there an accident? Yes, Sir.
- 1:23:03So is that the reason that you guys are doing a no contest
- 1:23:07plea? Yes, Sir.
- 1:23:10I'm going to have to have you sign the advice of rights here.
- 1:23:13OK, So you sit down there at that table, sign the advice of
- 1:23:17rights and and then when you're done, hand it back to my
- 1:23:21reporter. OK Hines Khalil Jamal Hines,
- 1:23:2726-F24577-O. So make sure you read those
- 1:23:30rights, Sir. Your name, Sir.
- 1:23:33You're charged with driving on a suspended.
- 1:23:34You have the right to a lawyer. Would you like a lawyer?
- 1:23:37I'll go ahead and arraign you and send you to the prosecutor.
- 1:23:40On February 21 at 26, it was alleged that you did operate a
- 1:23:43motor vehicle in the city of Flat Rock, County of Wayne on
- 1:23:45Gibraltar near Aspen at 4:27 PM. That is a misdemeanor punishable
- 1:23:51by up to 500 fines, 93 days jail costs are all those two points.
- 1:23:55Do you understand that? Yes, Sir.
- 1:23:56Did you sign an advice of rights and read it and understand it
- 1:23:59today? Yes, Sir.
- 1:24:00You plead guilty. You'll be giving up all those
- 1:24:02rights and we're not going to have a hearing or a trial.
- 1:24:04Do you understand that? Yes, Sir.
- 1:24:06All right. You still wish to waive your
- 1:24:07right to a lawyer? Yes, Sir.
- 1:24:08I'll enter a knock guilty plea. I'll give you a $500 personal
- 1:24:11bond. You cannot leave the state
- 1:24:14without the consent of the court or violate a law.
- 1:24:16You must appear in court as directed.
- 1:24:18You're going to go talk to the Flat Rock prosecutor.
- 1:24:21Have a seat out in the hallway, and they'll call you.
- 1:24:23OK. Thank you.
- 1:24:25Tree Service, Detroit, 261-5050. Eight, your name.
- 1:24:35Let's move along for a little while.
- 1:24:37We'll check back on Judge McNally at some point, but let's
- 1:24:40go down to Texas. Judge Stevens pretty well, yeah.
- 1:24:45It's not it's not going to work. OK.
- 1:24:47It might be said to get there all OK.
- 1:24:50So yes, possession with the attempt is we have open, yeah.
- 1:24:59All right, we now call. 24 CR 1338 the state of Texas versus
- 1:25:04dating. Medina.
- 1:25:04Danny Houston, present with Mr. Rojas, your attorney and the
- 1:25:08State's attorney. Does the defendant waive a
- 1:25:12formal reading of this indictment and the arraignment
- 1:25:15here? And we've proceeded some.
- 1:25:18In summary, Sir, this indictment alleges that Honor, about
- 1:25:21February 8th, 2024 in Jefferson County, Texas, you committed a
- 1:25:26third degree felony of knowing an accident, vehicular accident
- 1:25:34had occurred. You intentionally have knowing
- 1:25:36we left the scene of the accident without giving your
- 1:25:39name, address, registration number of the vehicle you were
- 1:25:43driving or the name of your motor vehicle liability insurer,
- 1:25:48nor rendering any reasonable assistance to the any other
- 1:25:54person involved in the accident when it was apparent that the
- 1:25:58other person was in need of medical treatment.
- 1:26:02Do you understand what you're charged with you?
- 1:26:04Why would you do such a thing? I mean, it's just humanitarian.
- 1:26:08You got to help people if it even if it's you're not not your
- 1:26:12fault, you still have to stay and help.
- 1:26:16It was written in the law so that we could have empathy with
- 1:26:21fellow humans. And you leave them out there.
- 1:26:25Maybe there were others, but sometimes there's not anybody
- 1:26:28there and they're just, we've had situations where they would
- 1:26:31have survived, but they died because no one can get them
- 1:26:35treatment in time. You say we're left, and that's
- 1:26:40just a humanitarian decent thing.
- 1:26:42Are you decent? You seem to be.
- 1:26:45You know what little I know about you, and you just got
- 1:26:51scared right off. You got to.
- 1:26:54Sometimes the most difficult decisions you make take courage,
- 1:26:59OK? We understand and appreciate the
- 1:27:02importance of all of this, I believe.
- 1:27:04OK. And you're owning up to your
- 1:27:06responsibilities here. Well, that's a way to try to fix
- 1:27:10this. All right.
- 1:27:12You understand what you're charged with.
- 1:27:14This is a third degree felony, which means if convicted, you
- 1:27:20face no less than two, no more than 10 years confinement in
- 1:27:23prison and a fine up to $10,000 can be assessed.
- 1:27:28Do you understand? Understand, Sir,
- 1:27:51agreement has been reached that whatever Senate shall not exceed
- 1:27:56a cap of eight years in prison. So we've got different options
- 1:28:02here. You could be sentenced to no
- 1:28:06less than two, no more than eight years confinement in
- 1:28:09prison. You could be placed on deferred
- 1:28:12or unadjudicated probation. Is regular probation an option?
- 1:28:17You could be sentenced to no less than two, no more than
- 1:28:19eight years imprisonment. Then that imprisonment term can
- 1:28:23be suspended and you could be placed on probation for up to 10
- 1:28:28years in fleet. Those are your options and also
- 1:28:33a fine of up to $10,000 can also be assessed in each of those
- 1:28:38different options. So do you understand what these
- 1:28:45potential options are by pleading guilty?
- 1:28:49If I follow this agreement, you have no right of appeal of your
- 1:28:55case. Do you understand?
- 1:28:56I understand. March 19th, big talk.
- 1:29:06Seems like it was just yesterday.
- 1:29:07It was the 18th north of the 20th.
- 1:29:15We'll see. Yeah.
- 1:29:17How do you plead to this, Sir? Guilty or not guilty?
- 1:29:19Guilty, Sir. Are you pleading guilty
- 1:29:21voluntarily? Yes, Because you are guilty,
- 1:29:25Yes. I'm going to show you what's
- 1:29:26marked as States Exhibit 1 here. Did you sign that document
- 1:29:28voluntarily, Understand it, discuss it with your attorney?
- 1:29:31Are the contents true and correct?
- 1:29:33Yes, Sir. States Exhibit 1 tendered into
- 1:29:35No. Objection.
- 1:29:36Without objection, isn't it among other things, this states
- 1:29:39that you are mentally competent and in your guilty plea truly
- 1:29:43involuntarily many you know what you've been charged with.
- 1:29:46You've discussed all of this with your attorney.
- 1:29:49You are giving up your rights to a jury trial, the rights to the
- 1:29:53apparent cause examination, confrontation of witnesses and
- 1:29:57you are totally satisfied with the representation by your
- 1:29:59lawyer. All of this is true.
- 1:30:01It states here so help you God. This states exhibit one made a
- 1:30:04part of the record for all purposes.
- 1:30:06What we're going to do is order a pre sentence report.
- 1:30:11We're going to come back in about 30 days and you will be
- 1:30:15working with the probation office.
- 1:30:18They will do a report of the circumstances of the case and
- 1:30:23other factors surrounding this matter so that I can have an
- 1:30:29informed decision on what direction we're going to head in
- 1:30:35these three options that you have under the law of what
- 1:30:39punishment can be assessed. Have you ever been in trouble
- 1:30:42before? You're looking over here, which
- 1:30:45means yes, that's that's always a giveaway when I'm talking
- 1:30:50about convictions. Everybody makes mistakes.
- 1:30:57How you? Fix it and deal with the
- 1:30:58mistakes. That's the test of character.
- 1:31:01OK, just deal with this response again.
- 1:31:05All right, get a resetting and we'll see you back for the
- 1:31:08sentencing. Hearing.
- 1:31:11Marvin said it weird. It's like Donald Vaughn.
- 1:31:29All right, well, they rack up another contestant.
- 1:31:31We'll move along. Judge Oakley.
- 1:31:36All right. Are you going forward today
- 1:31:37without an attorney or do you want to speak to the court
- 1:31:39appointed attorney? I mean, I I can speak with one.
- 1:31:43That's fine if I need to. I just want to make sure you
- 1:31:48want when you get one. If you don't want one, we're
- 1:31:49going to go. Yeah.
- 1:31:50I can speak with one. All right, I'll put her back in
- 1:31:53there. Justin Griggs.
- 1:31:58Good morning, Sir. How are you doing this morning?
- 1:32:00Wonderful. Are you going forward today
- 1:32:02without benefit of a court appointed attorney?
- 1:32:04Yes, Sir, all. Right, let me find your file.
- 1:32:08Yes, Sir. Well, that ain't it.
- 1:32:27Show us, not the bottom. Full Yeah, I I had it.
- 1:32:34Oh, I just stuck to another one. All right, Mr. Griggs, I've got
- 1:32:43a file here. Incident date October 1225
- 1:32:46Charged with retail fraud, Sentenced to six months under
- 1:32:50advisement $400.00 Court costs 30 hours community service.
- 1:32:54Paid the $400.00 but have not provided proof of community
- 1:32:57service before the due date of February 28th.
- 1:33:00Where you at with community service Sir?
- 1:33:02I was going to ask if the court would grant me an extension
- 1:33:05because I've been in care of my mom and my it's a mixture of my
- 1:33:09care of my mom with her dementia, Alzheimer's, and my
- 1:33:12job. What are you working now?
- 1:33:14I'm working in. I live downriver, but I'm
- 1:33:17working in Marshall, MI, so I'm driving an hour and a half to
- 1:33:20work. Who do you work for?
- 1:33:22DFM, DFM through Ford. We're out here on the
- 1:33:25construction site where they're building a battery plant.
- 1:33:28Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:33:29Yup, Yup, Yup. Today, yesterday.
- 1:33:31I just got my promotion so I will be back down in Dearborn
- 1:33:34shortly, but they want me to finish out the project for
- 1:33:36before the turnover starts. OK.
- 1:33:40How long you been with that company?
- 1:33:41I've been here, I've been doing, I've been with the company, I
- 1:33:45want to say a year and a half going on two years.
- 1:33:47I've been with this project for 13 1/2 months.
- 1:33:50OK. All right.
- 1:33:51So you got something lined up where you're going to do your
- 1:33:54community service? Yes, Sir, I think I found a
- 1:33:58nonprofit nonprofit and also a Salvation Army that are located
- 1:34:02in Southwest Detroit. OK.
- 1:34:05All right. And I do apologize again, Your
- 1:34:11Honor. That was never my intention to
- 1:34:13completely skip out on it or anything.
- 1:34:15I do apologize. Can you get it done by the end
- 1:34:18of April? Yes Sir, I most definitely can
- 1:34:21all. Right.
- 1:34:23I like your attitude, so I'm not going to hit you too hard.
- 1:34:25I'm just going to give you an extra 2 hours.
- 1:34:26So 32 hours by. I appreciate that 30.
- 1:34:33Got it. Did I lose you?
- 1:34:36Yes, Sir. And they can you hear me?
- 1:34:40Yeah, hold on, Did you get it 32 hours by April 30th?
- 1:34:43Yes, Sir. All right, questions.
- 1:34:46Yep, they had told when I went and spoke to someone in the
- 1:34:49courthouse 2 days ago. They told me basically to just
- 1:34:51get a paper from wherever my nonprofit I go to just showing
- 1:34:55that I actually completed. Exactly.
- 1:34:57Official letterhead. So it's got their name, address,
- 1:34:59e-mail. We can check it out if we need
- 1:35:01to. Yes, Sir.
- 1:35:02All right, yes. Anything else?
- 1:35:05Nope, not at all. Congrats on the promotion.
- 1:35:08I appreciate that, Sir. Thank you.
- 1:35:10Have a good day. You too now.
- 1:35:25So I hope I should come see if she can come later.
- 1:35:28She's. Out.
- 1:35:31Yes, that's fine to me. Just be.
- 1:35:46I mean, it's a couple days now, all right, counsel, what do you
- 1:35:53got? Alfred A Austin, AL Sentencing
- 1:36:00or show cause sentencing, All right.
- 1:36:06Got the file. Your Appearance Jack Newhorn
- 1:36:09Neighborhood Finder Therapist, seat number 84871 Good morning.
- 1:36:15Have you gentlemen had a chance to go over the report and
- 1:36:17recommendation? We did your honor, anything in
- 1:36:20there that is factually inaccurate?
- 1:36:23Anything you want to add by way of elocution?
- 1:36:25Do you have what happened here on sure some 34th district work
- 1:36:30program. It's an alternative to jail
- 1:36:31time. So where I would normally give
- 1:36:33jail quite often with files I'll do some work program.
- 1:36:37What it amounts to is you pick the days, we'll schedule you the
- 1:36:41days you pick, you have to be here at 8:00, not 838 o'clock.
- 1:36:44Then they'll go out and work with our crew.
- 1:36:47We're getting a little early yet, but we're getting into the,
- 1:36:49you know, season where we're doing festivals around our five
- 1:36:52communities. You might be working one of the
- 1:36:53festivals and picking up trash. You might be working on the side
- 1:36:55of a road somewhere, clean up a park, that kind of stuff.
- 1:36:59It works out to be usually, what, Vanessa?
- 1:37:025-6 hour day. Yeah.
- 1:37:05Yeah. OK.
- 1:37:07OK. Anything else in allocution?
- 1:37:09Your Honor, this was three years ago.
- 1:37:10I don't think he's had any kind of risky.
- 1:37:12Society. So he's gainfully employed.
- 1:37:16We understand the request for substance.
- 1:37:17Abuse evaluation, I actually why they want to evaluate don't
- 1:37:22think that there's a substance abuse issue with him
- 1:37:25particularly. I think if there wasn't it would
- 1:37:26have done within the last three years.
- 1:37:28That's that's why I like to go with the evaluation.
- 1:37:30Someone can spend more time with you than our probation
- 1:37:32department. You, you do a full blown
- 1:37:34evaluation with somebody and they say no problem here, great,
- 1:37:39nothing necessary to move forward.
- 1:37:41The evaluation comes back and recommends some treatment.
- 1:37:43Then we're going to talk. OK, anything else, anything
- 1:37:48else? Anything you want to answer?
- 1:37:50OK, All right. So I went over the
- 1:37:53recommendations as well and I'm going to adopt those
- 1:37:54recommendations in full. So you went over one through 9
- 1:37:59with counsel as recommendations. Those are now court ordered.
- 1:38:02So on the count 1 charge, 12 months probation, total fines,
- 1:38:07it costs on that file $1200. I'll send you downstairs to talk
- 1:38:11about payment options on that file.
- 1:38:13I'm going to put all six days of the work program on that file.
- 1:38:17Then on the count to file, it's just 12 months probation, same
- 1:38:21terms, an additional $1200 fines plus court costs.
- 1:38:26Same thing. Talk about payment options
- 1:38:27downstairs. Any questions, clarifications,
- 1:38:32Good luck. 01 thing I should tell you, you violated bond when
- 1:38:37you continue to use mood altering substances without a
- 1:38:40doctor's prescription. Don't make that a habit because
- 1:38:43now you're on probation, you know there will be consequences.
- 1:38:47You're currently owe us $540 on something else traffic, double
- 1:38:52parking and a traffic device civil infraction.
- 1:38:54Can you put a payment plan together on all this Put.
- 1:38:59The payment. Together you tried to do it
- 1:39:00online much easier. It's much easier face to face.
- 1:39:06Get it all worked out before you leave the building.
- 1:39:08All right, good luck. Thank you, council.
- 1:39:10And I want to thank you. Going into North Carolina.
- 1:39:14I just looked at the clock. We're like a hour and 40 minutes
- 1:39:18into the show already. I don't know where this morning
- 1:39:20is gone programming. Note that we are not doing a
- 1:39:22fourth hour today, just three hours because I have some other
- 1:39:25commitments today. So sorry about that.
- 1:39:29Let's go down to Louisiana. Check out the parole board.
- 1:39:50The Committee on Parole is called to order.
- 1:39:53Today's date is March 19th, 2026.
- 1:39:56My name is Danny Barroff, serving as your chairman today.
- 1:39:58My colleagues on today's panel are Mr. Tillis, on my left and
- 1:40:02Mr. Ledoux. On Zoom, the panel today at the
- 1:40:05headquarters is in Baton Rouge, LA, with staff.
- 1:40:07Please introduce yourself. In the record.
- 1:40:15Deputy Warden Chad Orlo. Darius credit assistant, ward
- 1:40:20classification. Jackie Christy, Theater Records
- 1:40:22Manager, Christine Lavon, Classification.
- 1:40:27Thank you. Our remote location is Hunter
- 1:40:30Correctional Center. Today we're doing a parole
- 1:40:34hearing from Mr. Leonard Birkholder.
- 1:40:37Mr. Birkholder, would you please introduce yourself and state
- 1:40:40your DLC number for the record? My name is Leonard Birkholder,
- 1:40:44DLC number 491565. All right, I'm going to give you
- 1:40:49a brief, brief explanation of the process.
- 1:40:51We're going to read some information into the record, ask
- 1:40:54you to verify it. We're going to give you a chance
- 1:40:56to speak and tell us what you did to cause your your
- 1:41:00incarceration and why you think you should be released.
- 1:41:03We'll take warden comments if they have any.
- 1:41:05We'll allow public comments from three supporters and three in
- 1:41:10opposition. The district attorney's office
- 1:41:13will given be given a chance to speak and we'll conduct a parole
- 1:41:17interview with you and we'll allow your attorney to finish it
- 1:41:21up. So let's begin today.
- 1:41:24We have for parole consideration Leonard Burkholder COC number
- 1:41:28491565 who's the 1st felony offender who was convicted of
- 1:41:34manslaughter reduced from second degree.
- 1:41:37Murder. On February 28th, 2010 and was
- 1:41:41sentenced to serve 30 years hard labor in Saint Tammany Parish.
- 1:41:46Your parole eligibility date is 3/25/26.
- 1:41:50Your good time date is 10/11/26 and your full time date is 4535.
- 1:41:58Does that sound correct to you? Yes, Sir.
- 1:42:03All right, so we'll let you lead it off.
- 1:42:06What? What did you do to cause
- 1:42:08yourself to be incarcerated and why?
- 1:42:10Do you think? It's a good time to release you
- 1:42:12now. That made some terrible choices
- 1:42:18in my late teens and early 20s, choices that led to me selling
- 1:42:22drugs, and no decision was worse or more harmful than the one I
- 1:42:27made on October 7th of 2004. And that was when I sold 5
- 1:42:32methadone wafers. My friend Nicholas Piero, who
- 1:42:35later consumed them, overdosed and ultimately died as a result,
- 1:42:42and I would like to take this opportunity, if I may, to
- 1:42:45apologize to the Piero family and just let them know how how
- 1:42:52deeply sorry I am for my careless and reckless actions
- 1:42:56all those years ago. They played a part in Nick's
- 1:42:59untimely death, and though that was never my intention, I know
- 1:43:04that I still call is their family a great deal of grief and
- 1:43:06a heartache, and there are no words that can express how
- 1:43:10remorseful I am or how regrettable those past actions
- 1:43:15are. But I am truly, truly sorry for
- 1:43:21my actions and what I've done. And the pain is as far as their
- 1:43:24family, as far as parole. The younger version.
- 1:43:31Of myself was not a very good decision maker last forethought
- 1:43:38didn't really give much thought to you know the consequences my
- 1:43:41actions could have and the. Impact that it could have on.
- 1:43:43Other people's lives, I had very limited education and job
- 1:43:49skills. I had a poor work ethic, which
- 1:43:53made, you know, obtaining employment difficult.
- 1:44:00But I've taken the situation very seriously from the
- 1:44:02beginning. And at the beginning of my
- 1:44:06incorporation, I chose to take a hard, honest look at myself, to
- 1:44:11take a moral inventory and try to identify some of the flaws of
- 1:44:14my character. And I've used the programming
- 1:44:18and resources available to me to, you know, grow and mature
- 1:44:23and try to correct those flaws. Today I'm far and away a better
- 1:44:29decision maker than I was 20 plus years ago.
- 1:44:34I give a lot of thought to my actions and how it might affect
- 1:44:38not only myself, but the the lives of others around me.
- 1:44:41And I've improved my work ethic. I've developed a strong work
- 1:44:47ethic. I placed an emphasis on
- 1:44:49education, furthering my education, obtaining job skills
- 1:44:54across multiple fields so that I'll be better equipped to gain
- 1:44:59meaningful employment whenever the opportunity arises.
- 1:45:04I have an amazing support system with family and friends who love
- 1:45:09me and are willing to support me in transitioning into a normal
- 1:45:13life. I have an out of state residence
- 1:45:17plan with a Interstate compact in progress to Texas and I have
- 1:45:24employment lined up. I have everything I need to make
- 1:45:30a successful transition from prison back into society and
- 1:45:34everything I need to be successful going forward.
- 1:45:36Should I be given the opportunity?
- 1:45:46Do you, you or your staff have any comments to add to Mr.
- 1:45:49Burkhalter's statement or to his behavior there while he was
- 1:45:53incarcerated with Y'all? Yes, Sir.
- 1:45:56So he has a total of seven write ups.
- 1:45:58This is the corporation here at Elaine Hunt.
- 1:46:00He's currently a corporate tuner or he's taking more multiple
- 1:46:04occasional programs. He's AANA.
- 1:46:07He's the president of the Health Fitness Club and I've been here
- 1:46:11three months, but I've talked to other staff members that hasn't
- 1:46:13been here a long time. And they said any time anybody
- 1:46:16to volunteer or help, he's very helpful and they have no
- 1:46:19problems and no issues with the battle.
- 1:46:20All right, thank you very much. Today we have people here
- 1:46:29speaking in support. We have Jane Hogan, the attorney
- 1:46:36who's here present and wants to speak.
- 1:46:39We have a friend, Alicia Roble, a best friend who is on Zoom but
- 1:46:46not speaking. We have Mark Bruton, a
- 1:46:52brother-in-law who's would like to speak, Tina Bruton, a sister
- 1:46:56who would like to speak, and Linda Larpenteur, an aunt who
- 1:47:01would like to speak. So I know Miss Hogan wants to go
- 1:47:04last, so so we'll start with Mark Bruton.
- 1:47:08Would you step to the podium and tell us what you got to say you
- 1:47:12got? To see me.
- 1:47:16That's fine. OK, that's good.
- 1:47:21Thank you for the opportunity to talk to you guys this morning.
- 1:47:23I just wanted to follow up on what Paul was saying.
- 1:47:28I've only known Paul for letter Paul for since 2016 when he and
- 1:47:34his me and his sister started dating.
- 1:47:39And I do plan on providing him employment with the company I
- 1:47:44work for in whatever capacity. There's several different
- 1:47:49opportunities he's going to have to find his way.
- 1:47:52We have a housing, you know, set up for him to live with us.
- 1:47:58So every every resource we have available to make his transition
- 1:48:03as smooth to be a productive citizen to our society.
- 1:48:08And I will add also my career. I've hired and evaluated
- 1:48:12hundreds of people for employment and I feel like I've
- 1:48:15been pretty successful in my career of judging a man's
- 1:48:18character. And I will have to say that, you
- 1:48:20know, I'm 100% confident that that should you guys choose to
- 1:48:26let Paul out, then he will be a very solid contributor to
- 1:48:30society. Thank you.
- 1:48:34Thank you. Next we'll hear from Tina
- 1:48:37Bruton. Good morning.
- 1:48:40I'm Tina Bruton. I'm Leonard Jagger's sister.
- 1:48:44I've been walking this journey with him.
- 1:48:47For the last 20. One years and today I just want
- 1:48:50to speak of the complete transformation that has happened
- 1:48:55in his life and the maturity. That he has.
- 1:48:58Gained as a man and as a human being, and we are in complete
- 1:49:03support of him financially, emotionally and spiritually.
- 1:49:07To help his. Transition as he were to come
- 1:49:10home, if that were to be granted.
- 1:49:12I would just ask that you. Would to kindly please consider
- 1:49:17his his choices. That he has.
- 1:49:20Made to support his growth thus far.
- 1:49:25Thank you. We also have.
- 1:49:31Linda. Larpente.
- 1:49:33Yes, Sir, I'm Paul's aunt and his, his his his dad is my
- 1:49:40brother. I've.
- 1:49:42Been coming to see. Paul with since he's been here
- 1:49:45at Wayne Hunt or whatever the number of years are, I don't
- 1:49:49even tell anymore. I.
- 1:49:51Started coming with my mother who is now deceased.
- 1:49:54I've also brought my 3 granddaughters as they've as
- 1:49:58they've come along. Over the.
- 1:50:00Years. To, you know, visit with Paul
- 1:50:03Leonard. Paul.
- 1:50:04We call him Paul. If that's his middle name, his
- 1:50:07dad was. Called Leonard.
- 1:50:08Anyway, we've come to see him as often as we could.
- 1:50:13The girls love him. He's been kind, he's gentle,
- 1:50:17he's respectful, he pays attention to them, he listens to
- 1:50:21them. He has matured in ways that
- 1:50:25watch the maturity. The.
- 1:50:27First thing he did was to get his GED one once he was
- 1:50:30incarcerated and he's taken so many other have some of his
- 1:50:36records at my house and I've. Got the list of.
- 1:50:40The classes and the courses that he's passed to to better himself
- 1:50:44and to. Be sure that at.
- 1:50:46Whatever point he is released, he would be able to gain
- 1:50:51employment. I he, he's.
- 1:50:56We talk all the time. We talk on the phone.
- 1:50:57All on a. Regular basis he we talk about
- 1:51:01his work in. In in the.
- 1:51:03Shop where he, you know, he, he's building things, he's been
- 1:51:06in the wood shop, he's been in the jewelry shop and it's, it's
- 1:51:10always a joy to spend. Time with him.
- 1:51:13And should he be released, he has the complete.
- 1:51:16Support of our. Family.
- 1:51:17My granddaughters love him, I love him.
- 1:51:19My husband is on board. If he were to need to stay in
- 1:51:22Louisiana for any reason, he would have a place to stay with
- 1:51:25us. I live in Ponchatoula and we
- 1:51:29pray that you will have mercy on him today.
- 1:51:33Thank you. All right.
- 1:51:36We also have some people in opposition who would like to
- 1:51:40speak. We have Mr. Butch Wilson with
- 1:51:43the 22nd JDC district Attorney's office.
- 1:51:47Have Captain Kevin Swain. We also have Robert Pirro.
- 1:51:55The we. The all three of those.
- 1:51:59Want to speak and we also have present but not speaking, Rose
- 1:52:05Gennaro and Janet Bray. You want to have his attorney?
- 1:52:10We'd like to hear from his attorney first.
- 1:52:12Say that again. I'd like to hear from his
- 1:52:17attorney first. Miss Hogan, We we're going to
- 1:52:21let her speak last, but not after.
- 1:52:24Not after opposition. Opposition speaks last, All
- 1:52:30right. Let's hear from her turn.
- 1:52:33Thank you, Mr. Barra. Miss Ladue, Mr. Celis would just
- 1:52:37like to say that I've had the pleasure of representing Mr.
- 1:52:40Burkholder for about 5 years now for different things.
- 1:52:44All of the comments that you have heard this morning about
- 1:52:47his character are 100% accurate. He is a man of integrity.
- 1:52:52He has taken every opportunity to better himself.
- 1:52:56He is currently a tutor in the VO tech.
- 1:52:59He's been tutoring other people for about 15 years, teaching
- 1:53:03others the skills that he has learned to better other people's
- 1:53:07lives, not just to enrich himself.
- 1:53:10This is really not a typical. I know that this is more
- 1:53:13probably recognizes this is not typical of the manslaughters
- 1:53:16that this board. Is used to.
- 1:53:18Seeing and Mr. Burkholder is not a typical individual.
- 1:53:21That is not to minimize the life that was lost in this case in
- 1:53:26any way. And it's not to diminish the
- 1:53:28utmost remorse that Mister Burkholder feels for the loss of
- 1:53:32his friend, which he caused by by his actions 21 years ago.
- 1:53:39This is an this presents an opportunity for this board to
- 1:53:42release Mr. Burkholder with conditions.
- 1:53:45Whereas if he were to good time out, he would good time out
- 1:53:49without conditions of release. Mr. This board can set any
- 1:53:53condition for release on Mr. Burkholder.
- 1:53:55He willingly comply with anything, whether it's attending
- 1:53:58substance abuse meetings or or anything of the sort.
- 1:54:02He has out of state residents lined up.
- 1:54:05He's a low risk, he has low tiger score.
- 1:54:08He is a member of the veterans dormitory mentorship program
- 1:54:13where he is mentoring people. And he has spent well over a
- 1:54:17decade without a write up and only 7 write ups total.
- 1:54:20And the last write up we had was.
- 1:54:22Was. Minimal so for all of these
- 1:54:28reasons. We would ask.
- 1:54:30This board to look at the. Totality of of this case and who
- 1:54:34Mr. Burkholder is and what he has achieved in light of his
- 1:54:38circumstances, he is a first offender.
- 1:54:40He was 23 years old when he made these decisions that led him to
- 1:54:44prison. And for all of these reasons,
- 1:54:46we'd ask this board to take the opportunity to to grant his
- 1:54:49parole and to impose any conditions of release that it
- 1:54:52deems fit. Thank you.
- 1:54:58All right. Now we'll hear from.
- 1:55:00Opposition Mr. Butch Wilson with the 22nd JDC District term he's.
- 1:55:16Still on. Mute want to let him go last.
- 1:55:22Step Can you all hear me? Yes, hello, Yes.
- 1:55:30Oh, am I going last or are the family members speaking first?
- 1:55:35It does. It doesn't.
- 1:55:35Matter to me. You want to go laugh?
- 1:55:38Yeah, I'd prefer that, actually. All right.
- 1:55:42And we'll hear from Captain Swain.
- 1:55:46Good morning. We're back to the board with
- 1:55:58serious job that y'all have today.
- 1:56:01My name is Kevin Swan at Catholic Selfish department ran
- 1:56:04investigations during the time of this incident.
- 1:56:09Self Police Department strongly opposes any early release or
- 1:56:13remind the board the original charge.
- 1:56:16Second degree aside, there was a very strong case and there was a
- 1:56:21lot of conversations with the family and also with district
- 1:56:25attorney's office. We thought the full term was
- 1:56:28appropriate. Family thought that happened and
- 1:56:31that's why the agreement was entered into.
- 1:56:34So selfish department family fully opposed any early release.
- 1:56:39Just want to remind the board which you're aware of.
- 1:56:43What's the other if he would have went to trial and found
- 1:56:46guilty, he. Would not be.
- 1:56:46In front of the board today. So if you have any questions of
- 1:56:50me, I'll have to answer them. But we strongly, strongly oppose
- 1:56:54any early release this in division.
- 1:56:57Thank you. I don't have any questions to
- 1:56:59anybody else. No, no question.
- 1:57:02Thank you. All right, we got Mr. Robert
- 1:57:06Piero. On the morning of October the
- 1:57:308th 2004, my wife changed her. My wife was in the kitchen and I
- 1:57:38asked her what time the extend appointment was.
- 1:57:41She said she was going to wake him up.
- 1:57:44She went to this room, the door was locked.
- 1:57:46She found the smallest screwdriver would open the door.
- 1:57:50I heard her screaming and crying and I rushed into the room
- 1:57:54because she was holding some. She told me to call 911.
- 1:57:59Something was wrong with Nick. He was not moving, his body was
- 1:58:02cold. Darlene was screaming to get
- 1:58:05help. I ran across the street and it's
- 1:58:08the name of the health. He came over and didn't know
- 1:58:11what to do. My wife was crying and begging
- 1:58:14to do something as she was holding her child in her arms.
- 1:58:20I went outside when the police survived they sent the next
- 1:58:23room. Police officer walked inside and
- 1:58:26he came out and took off his gloves and said I'm sorry.
- 1:58:30My wife was screaming and she helped her dead child.
- 1:58:33Almost seconds later the EMT survived and helped the police
- 1:58:38officers. They confirmed my child instead.
- 1:58:42Police asked us to go into another room while they started
- 1:58:45the investigation. I heard EMS and police say it
- 1:58:49was a very possible overdex. They said they have seen a lot
- 1:58:53of these cases lately and this is a serious harm in the parish.
- 1:58:59I called my wife's parents to tell them that their grandson
- 1:59:02was dead. I.
- 1:59:05Called my daughter's. School and told her Nick was
- 1:59:07dead. Come home right away because we
- 1:59:09need her. I called my mother to tell her
- 1:59:12Nick was dead. Please call my sisters.
- 1:59:16This was a horrible. Nightmare My wife and I were
- 1:59:19zombies. It's going to be real.
- 1:59:21My only son was dead. I was in shock.
- 1:59:25My daughter and my in laws had to make the Funeral
- 1:59:27arrangements. Days passed we were able to see
- 1:59:32our son at the wake. When I saw my little boy in the
- 1:59:35coffin I was in shock. Next funeral was packed Hundreds
- 1:59:40attended a wake the next day the church was packed.
- 1:59:44My son was a very kind, loving person.
- 1:59:48He liked every money. Now he came up.
- 1:59:51A man came up to me at church, person I had never met, and told
- 1:59:55me a story about how he got my son.
- 1:59:58He was riding his bike by the movies where my son worked.
- 2:00:02I asked Nick if he could help. Nick gave me some money to get
- 2:00:07something to eat. He found out later about Nick's
- 2:00:12to death from the people who work at the movies.
- 2:00:17He asked me if he could sing the mess.
- 2:00:20I told him that we've already had someone but he could sing at
- 2:00:23the graveyard as well. Yes he did sing at the
- 2:00:26graveyard. I thought that would be make my
- 2:00:29son happy. I hate October the 8th.
- 2:00:33I remember my wife screaming and crying.
- 2:00:36Some days while I'm driving and working, I see my wife crying at
- 2:00:40home and not son. This happens during the day,
- 2:00:45while I'm awake, when I'm sleeping.
- 2:00:48It's worse when my wife and I see Nick's friends with their
- 2:00:53wives and children. I think of all the things I can
- 2:00:57miss. I miss the girl.
- 2:01:00I've something with Mary. I miss this wedding, and I miss
- 2:01:05the children and the grandchildren that I would never
- 2:01:08see. I miss his birthday.
- 2:01:15The holidays are a joke. It took me 15 years to put up a
- 2:01:20Christmas tree. Yeah.
- 2:01:21My son's death. My son loved homemade
- 2:01:24hamburgers. He would bring him to his work
- 2:01:27for his friends to enjoy after his death.
- 2:01:31It took me 9 years to make a burger.
- 2:01:36I was a very, very angry person. People noticed.
- 2:01:41I tried to conceal my anger had changed, lost friends, lost
- 2:01:45work. I prayed every day for God to
- 2:01:48control what was burning inside me.
- 2:01:52After the convicted murder was sentenced that day, the anger
- 2:01:55started to subside. On July the 23rd of 2005,
- 2:02:01shortly after the drug deal was arrested, the newspaper and
- 2:02:05local TV stations reported the story.
- 2:02:09My mother who is from a large Italian family, she called and
- 2:02:14she asked me why I didn't tell her no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- 2:02:19When my mother called, her first question was, is it true?
- 2:02:23Did Nick die from an overdose? I told her yes, it was true.
- 2:02:31My mother is from a large Italian family.
- 2:02:33She asked me why I didn't tell her.
- 2:02:35I explained her to her that the drug dealer ran when the police
- 2:02:38started the investigation. The police talked to my wife and
- 2:02:42I and told us not to discuss anything about Nick.
- 2:02:46At the time I was running a local bingo hall.
- 2:02:49I was told people may ask questions about Nick to give to
- 2:02:54his. Defense attorney.
- 2:02:56We kept quiet. Only my wife, myself and my
- 2:03:00inlaws knew what was going on with my mother, informed me that
- 2:03:05her sisters called her and asked questions and she was very upset
- 2:03:09with me. I thought my mother would tell
- 2:03:12me she was happy the police called the person who sold drugs
- 2:03:15to my son and children. Instead she told me I
- 2:03:20embarrassed her in front of her family, my sisters and brothers.
- 2:03:25I was shocked. I told my mother from this day
- 2:03:29forward I would never speak to her again.
- 2:03:33I told my sisters that when she dies, don't bother calling me, I
- 2:03:36don't care. Years later, my sister called me
- 2:03:39and told me my mother was in the hospital time.
- 2:03:43I didn't go. Days later, my mother died.
- 2:03:45I did not attend my family. This decision impacted my life
- 2:03:49forever. I shall love you mother and
- 2:03:57father. I will ask God to forgive me
- 2:04:01every day until the day I die. I went to the graveyard son
- 2:04:07morning and I spoke to my son Nick in the young man named
- 2:04:11Aaron who was in a crip pit feet from my son Aaron who died three
- 2:04:17days later. Before my son died of the same
- 2:04:23drug combination, I told him I would fight him here.
- 2:04:29I feel that this person gets paroled, he will sell drugs
- 2:04:32again and other children will die.
- 2:04:35This will destroy other families.
- 2:04:37And I'm here to ask the board, the police deny this request.
- 2:04:43Thank you if you all have any questions.
- 2:04:45I could have wrote for hours of what this has done to my wife
- 2:04:49and I and it's a it's something I would never wish on my person.
- 2:04:56And until you see and hold and watch your wife holding your
- 2:05:00head shot. And we live through this every
- 2:05:05today. He got 30 years.
- 2:05:08We got a life sentence for Crimea.
- 2:05:12And again, my son was not the only person you'd be
- 2:05:15responsible. There's a third person, Casey,
- 2:05:18who is here to that podium. And I see Casey and I talk to
- 2:05:23him. He died a month later.
- 2:05:25And I told Casey, thank you Aaron, my son, that I would be
- 2:05:29here for self support and. I thank you for your time.
- 2:05:35Thank you. All right.
- 2:05:39And then I will hear from Mr. Wilson muted that better.
- 2:05:54OK, good morning. I I don't have a lot to add to
- 2:05:59what we've already heard today. I know y'all have been provided
- 2:06:03with the report I'm looking at right now, this free parole
- 2:06:08investigation that is very well written and informative.
- 2:06:12There are just two details in that report that I would accent
- 2:06:17for the board on the synopsis. The factual synopsis is
- 2:06:23contained. The report makes mention of the
- 2:06:27fact that after Mr. Pirro had died, the police had sent an
- 2:06:33informant in to make a control purchase of of drugs from Mr.
- 2:06:39Burkholder. And the report states that
- 2:06:42Mister Burkholder told the informant he was upset about Mr.
- 2:06:46Pirro's death as he considered Mr. Pirro his, quote, boy and a
- 2:06:50good customer. After Mr. Burkholder was
- 2:06:53arrested, he was interviewed by the police and the report notes
- 2:06:57Mr. Burkholder admitted that he sold 5 methadone waivers to Mr.
- 2:07:01Pirro the day before he died. Mr. Burkholder also stated that
- 2:07:05when he heard that Mister Pirro had died, he thought it might be
- 2:07:09related to the methadone waivers.
- 2:07:13But this didn't stop him from continuing to deal drugs in
- 2:07:17spite of the fact that the dope that he had sold had killed a
- 2:07:20teenager. This is the salient fact in this
- 2:07:25matter to us. And on behalf of the district
- 2:07:29Attorney's office, we ask you to deny parole.
- 2:07:32Thank you. It's all the people that we had.
- 2:07:41That want to. Speak today.
- 2:07:44We do have opposition from the Sheriff's Office.
- 2:07:49We have opposition from the chief of police and from the
- 2:07:52attorney General's office. All right, your case is assigned
- 2:07:58to me. I'll ask the 1st set a question.
- 2:08:02And is this your first time appearing before the parole
- 2:08:05board? Yes Sir.
- 2:08:16I really don't have any questions.
- 2:08:17This case is self-explanatory. Do you want to add anything?
- 2:08:22To what you originally said about this case, the only.
- 2:08:26Thing I could ask you is. Why do you you know, why do you
- 2:08:28think you you deserve to be released today?
- 2:08:33I. Think that you know I'm not the
- 2:08:35same person that I was. 20. One years ago.
- 2:08:38So again, I made some terrible decisions in my late teens and
- 2:08:42early 20s, and I've done everything I can.
- 2:08:45I've given my best effort, you know, to change from that person
- 2:08:49and to the man that I am today. Thank you, Christiansen.
- 2:08:54All right, that's all the questions I had.
- 2:08:57Mr. Timpson, how old were you at the time?
- 2:09:02You said 22/21/23. Was Mr. the victim, Was he a
- 2:09:10friend of yours or you just He. He was a friend, but briefly, I
- 2:09:17would say for about a year. I met him through some other
- 2:09:19mutual friends. How old was he?
- 2:09:22I believe he was 18 and you were 2223.
- 2:09:27Yes Sir. Were you selling?
- 2:09:29Were you using drugs too? Marijuana was my drug of choice.
- 2:09:37I was smoking marijuana and then from my mid teen years and that
- 2:09:42remained my drug of choice as I got older.
- 2:09:43So that was pretty much my drug of choice.
- 2:09:47Have you used drugs since then? Is there prostration?
- 2:09:54What about, I see you've taken a lot of classes and stuff.
- 2:09:58What are, what are the, what are the ones that impact you the
- 2:10:00most? Obviously the the vocational
- 2:10:05classes, you know. Have an impact?
- 2:10:08As far as, you know, making me equipped to find employment, you
- 2:10:12know, whenever that time comes. But I think the class that most
- 2:10:16impacted me on a personal level was a victim impact and just
- 2:10:22hearing, you know, victim impact statements and how people were
- 2:10:26affected by crimes. You know, when they suffer loss
- 2:10:31and and suffer something that's devastating.
- 2:10:35I think a lot of people at the Commission of their crime, they
- 2:10:38don't really realize that it's going to have on, you know,
- 2:10:44other people. Like the ripple effect is it's
- 2:10:47so mind boggling how many people are affected by a crime.
- 2:10:52And I know that what I've done is, you know, it's caused
- 2:10:57someone to lose their life and it's caused a family to lose
- 2:11:00their loved 1, you know, parents to lose the child, aunts and
- 2:11:05uncles and grandparents or affected classmates, friends,
- 2:11:10teachers, friends of those friends who.
- 2:11:13Have to be there. For support for people to lean
- 2:11:15on, I understand that. You know what I did, it was very
- 2:11:19devastating to a lot of people that I interrupted a lot of
- 2:11:22people's lives. Again, I was a young,
- 2:11:27irresponsible person at that time.
- 2:11:31And since then, I've tried to control my path going forward
- 2:11:36and just to transform into a better person, to make better
- 2:11:41decisions and to, you know, have some thought as to how my
- 2:11:47actions can impact other people and other people's lives.
- 2:11:50And I think I've done a, a good job at, you know, changing from
- 2:11:54the person that I once was and to the man that I am today.
- 2:11:58How long did you sell drugs to him that you can remember or
- 2:12:07about the length of our friendship?
- 2:12:09For about a year. He was introduced to me for that
- 2:12:13sole purpose, just introduced to me through mutual friends and
- 2:12:19and that was basically our acquaintance, but we built a a
- 2:12:23friendship I guess through that through the constant contact and
- 2:12:25interaction. The.
- 2:12:28Drug selling drugs was pretty good money then, was it?
- 2:12:32What was that good money? Notes are it It really wasn't
- 2:12:38all that great. I think the, the main reason
- 2:12:42that I even got into that was, as I said, marijuana was my
- 2:12:45brother choice. And the guy who I was getting my
- 2:12:49marijuana from just happened to have pills and things like that.
- 2:12:52And it became, I was the middle man for a long time, just my
- 2:12:58circle of friends, you know, that we're looking for things.
- 2:13:01It was easy and convenient. And one day I just had the, the
- 2:13:05brilliant idea to stop putting the money in somebody else's
- 2:13:08pocket into my buddy's pocket and just put it into mine.
- 2:13:11And it really wasn't all that great money, but it allowed me
- 2:13:14to get my marijuana pretty much for free again, you know,
- 2:13:19hindsight's, you know, 2020 and all of these decisions, you
- 2:13:24know, you look back on them and they're just, they're terrible.
- 2:13:26I would raise better than that. You know, I borrowed a lot of
- 2:13:30shame to my own family and my parents and, and everybody
- 2:13:35that's had a hand in raising me is raising me with good morals
- 2:13:38and principles and values. And I just made bad decisions
- 2:13:42and any decisions that I made, you know?
- 2:13:44Should have their bearing. On them and how they raise them.
- 2:13:47I just, I was young and dumb and irresponsible.
- 2:13:52Do you feel like maybe you might smoke a little marijuana later
- 2:13:58on if you're released? I was drug.
- 2:14:02Free in the months leading up to my arrest and I've been drug
- 2:14:05free for the past 21 years. I have no desire to use drugs,
- 2:14:11however, I understand that addition can be a tricky thing
- 2:14:16and I'm willing to take classes, A&A classes wherever I'm going
- 2:14:21if I'm released or any other substance abuse classes if the
- 2:14:24board games necessary. I have no problem with that.
- 2:14:29Have you taken any? Have you gone any since you've
- 2:14:32been incarcerated? I've taken a, A and NA and
- 2:14:35substance abuse. Yes Sir.
- 2:14:38Great. I have one more question for the
- 2:14:41I'd like to understand better the program you were involved
- 2:14:46in, the Veteran Mentorship program.
- 2:14:50Can you explain that to me please?
- 2:14:54It's a program. Originally it was designed to
- 2:14:59help incarcerated veterans, but there are so few of them that
- 2:15:03they wanted to bring in other guys who I guess it was
- 2:15:06exhibited qualities of leadership to help mentor other
- 2:15:10young guys that were coming into prison to try to give them
- 2:15:14skills and things like honesty and integrity to to kind of
- 2:15:18guide the younger guys that seem lost in their way.
- 2:15:22And the program has been really great in that regard.
- 2:15:27And so they just, they build up mentors and help those mentors
- 2:15:30go out and kind of mentor other younger adults.
- 2:15:35So you live in a dorm with, I mean, so you have a special dorm
- 2:15:39that you live in. And it's my understanding that
- 2:15:43if you have any kind of disciplinary problem or
- 2:15:47anything, then you're removed from that program.
- 2:15:50Is that correct? And how long have you been in
- 2:15:54that program? I've been in that program since
- 2:15:562018. OK.
- 2:16:01You got your GED while you were incarcerated?
- 2:16:04Yes, ma'am. That was the first thing I did
- 2:16:05in 2006. And then you also got a, a, a
- 2:16:12craft diploma for your carpentry work?
- 2:16:17Yes, ma'am. Carpentry and fiber optic
- 2:16:20installation and just a number of different fields through
- 2:16:25NCCER, which is a, a big, I guess construction type of
- 2:16:29overseer. And then who are you 2, when it
- 2:16:34says you're a registered tutor? What are you?
- 2:16:37Who are you tutoring? And then what subjects?
- 2:16:40We have other inmates that come through the vocational classes
- 2:16:43like Auburn Tree and welding and air conditioner refrigeration.
- 2:16:48My specialty is a Parliament tree and we usually have 10 and
- 2:16:5112 students. At a time.
- 2:16:54And they rotate as they go to the.
- 2:16:55Levels of their classes. And I usually have 10 and 12
- 2:16:59students. So you're you're tutoring those
- 2:17:05new to the program. OK, those are the questions I
- 2:17:13wanted to ask. I just needed that
- 2:17:15clarification. You have had pre release, right?
- 2:17:19Yes, ma'am. OK, other questions you have
- 2:17:25Miss Lindy. Yes, yes, yes.
- 2:17:30And I have questions. No more questions.
- 2:17:32All right, I'm going to ask for an executive session. 5 seconds.
- 2:17:38All righty. They're going to discuss things
- 2:17:47while they do that. Let's go to Michigan.
- 2:17:51We'll see what's going on with Judge Simpson on the other
- 2:17:57matter. Defendant is bound over to
- 2:17:59Circuit Court on 134, so he's bound over to Circuit Court on
- 2:18:07all 10 counts. We acknowledge receipt of
- 2:18:13information in both matters. Waive reading.
- 2:18:15Stand mute. And in every.
- 2:18:17Way formal reading Standing mute.
- 2:18:18Court will enter not guilty plea as to all charges.
- 2:18:21Pretrial will be set for March 31st, 2026, 1:30 before Judge
- 2:18:30company. Thank you.
- 2:18:33Bond will continue. In this case, it's matcher
- 2:18:51because the case of the people versus Warner, Ali, Thomas and.
- 2:18:57It's probably defending Nick Buckovich for Mr. Ali Thomas,
- 2:18:59who is now approaching. Mr. Ali Thomas, can you please
- 2:19:05state your name for the record? Warner, Victor Ali Thomas, Thank
- 2:19:09you. Before me.
- 2:19:12Plea form that indicates the defendant will be pleading
- 2:19:14guilty. Charge of attempted resisting
- 2:19:17and obstructing a police officer.
- 2:19:18First responder to one year offense funded successfully to
- 2:19:22that charge. Counts one through 3 would be
- 2:19:28dismissed. Well, yes, counts one through 3
- 2:19:33would dismiss, and count 2 is going to have to help me.
- 2:19:43I got one through 3 in this case would be dismissed.
- 2:19:47Then there's another District 15 District Court case where I
- 2:20:00don't. All right.
- 2:20:02If I need. A global resolution work to
- 2:20:04resolve court cases. OK.
- 2:20:08The plea hear will call for Mr. Polly Thomas.
- 2:20:14We plead guilty to attempted resisting and attracting a
- 2:20:17police officer in the case before the court today.
- 2:20:20We will then dismiss counts as an head account 4.
- 2:20:23Dismiss counts one through 3. Then.
- 2:20:27We will dismiss 15th District Court case number 26034 SM.
- 2:20:33That's the case in its entirety. We'll dismiss in the court case
- 2:20:37number 260048 SM in its entirety.
- 2:20:41That's a large thing under 200 and two in 15th District Court
- 2:20:45case 260033 SM, which which is already at 15. 20 at. 15.
- 2:20:54And then? Part of this is he's also ready
- 2:20:57to plead guilty to attempted a police officer in twenty 15th
- 2:21:04District Court case #260033S, and then he's agreeing to pay
- 2:21:10restitution to be determined at all dismissed counts from the
- 2:21:14cases in that we talked about here.
- 2:21:18And then there's a sentence agreement also to probation.
- 2:21:22OK. That would be the court's full
- 2:21:24understanding that your understanding, Mr. Buckarridge.
- 2:21:29Yes, as my standing also in addition APH and next Chief,
- 2:21:33there's a city case that C indicate would be dismissed once
- 2:21:35these two cases are upright too as well.
- 2:21:39I read that may not be on there, but that is an e-mail chain with
- 2:21:41me and Mr. Chabavowski that Jan Janetzky agreed to dismiss the
- 2:21:45city case. Yes, that's part of the whole
- 2:21:49global resolution. But.
- 2:21:53OK. But that's a city case, not a
- 2:21:56state case. Yes, that's correct.
- 2:21:59That's correct. OK, All right.
- 2:22:02Understood. May I have him sworn?
- 2:22:05It's right here, you selling short, affirm the testimony
- 2:22:08you're about to give and be the truth, the whole truth, but the
- 2:22:10truth. So he got.
- 2:22:11By God as well. State your name please.
- 2:22:14Warner, Richter, Ali Thomas Third, this is court to
- 2:22:17understand you're going to be pleading guilty to the charge of
- 2:22:20attempted resisting and obstructing a police officer
- 2:22:23first responder. That's a misdemeanor punishable
- 2:22:27by up to one year incarceration and a $1000 fine plus court
- 2:22:31cost. Do you understand that?
- 2:22:33Yes, I do. You understand also that while
- 2:22:37I'm taking your plea, I would not be your sentencing judge and
- 2:22:40you would be sentenced before Judge Garwood into 15th District
- 2:22:42Court. NRO, pardon.
- 2:22:47NRO tell you, yes, Sir, no. Understanding all of that, how
- 2:22:56do you plead to that charge? You understand that by pleading
- 2:23:05guilty you will not have a trial of any kind.
- 2:23:10You need a very answer, yes. Sir.
- 2:23:11Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:23:14You signed any divisive rights form or had one cause to be
- 2:23:16signed on your behalf? Yeah, I have.
- 2:23:20Do you have any questions regarding any of those rights?
- 2:23:23No, I don't. Please look at paragraph 5.
- 2:23:25You'll see a copy on the podium. Those are your rights which are
- 2:23:28part of a trial. You understand that by pleading
- 2:23:30guilty you'll be giving up those rights as well as all the rights
- 2:23:33on the form? You understand you're giving up
- 2:23:35your right to appeal of right? Yes.
- 2:23:37Are you on probation or parole? No.
- 2:23:40Has anybody promised you anything other than what's was
- 2:23:42stated here today on the record? Not.
- 2:23:44At all. Has anybody threatened you or
- 2:23:46coerced you? Not at all.
- 2:23:48You're doing this voluntarily? Is that a yes?
- 2:23:53Yes. Of your own free will?
- 2:23:57Yeah, for sure. For sure.
- 2:24:01Well. I'm done.
- 2:24:05You had it. That's because he's the second
- 2:24:06queen. Now so.
- 2:24:16Mr. Bukovich, I'll give you 2 weeks to figure out how to tell
- 2:24:20your client to behave in my courtroom.
- 2:24:24You. Said your Honor.
- 2:24:27Poor Colt's case. People versus well, that's
- 2:24:31unfortunate. Don't do that in Judge Simpson's
- 2:24:35court. Let's go back to Louisiana, get
- 2:24:37their decision. All right, the board is called
- 2:24:51back to order coming out of executive session.
- 2:24:55We'll time the vote. So we'll let miss Ledoux.
- 2:24:59Cast the first vote. OK, Mr. Burkholder, the
- 2:25:09situation in this case this tragic, however, I have to look
- 2:25:15at six different factors when I make a decision.
- 2:25:18It's very evidence based and I look at first of all the risk to
- 2:25:24public safety. And in this case, I do not feel
- 2:25:27that you are risk to public safety going forward.
- 2:25:31You have served 21 of your 30 years, but but it's the manner
- 2:25:36in which that you have served by taking advantage and being a
- 2:25:42productive member of that community.
- 2:25:47You have excellent programming. You've given back as a tutor,
- 2:25:50you have good behavior, You have excellent plans for moving
- 2:25:56forward. My vote today is going to be to
- 2:25:58grant parole to your Interstate compact only and that you avail
- 2:26:04yourself to AANA meetings at least once a week for the first
- 2:26:09year. So that's my vote today.
- 2:26:16But Dyllis. Mr. Leonard.
- 2:26:25I I believe that this is difficult you you have shown
- 2:26:37remorse. I don't think you're at risk to
- 2:26:39public safety. I think that you're serving that
- 2:26:45time. My book today is is going to be
- 2:26:48to concur with this. Do the grant all right.
- 2:26:57Like Mr. Tiller said, this was a tough case.
- 2:27:01I don't believe you intended to kill the man, but you did.
- 2:27:12But you have served well your time well while in custody and
- 2:27:17you have bettered yourself. So I'm going to vote to concur
- 2:27:23with my colleagues and grant you parole on the condition that you
- 2:27:26have no contact with the Purell family, that you do not return
- 2:27:31to Slidell, LA for any reason whatsoever, that you complete
- 2:27:36outpatient substance abuse treatment, and that you attend a
- 2:27:40a meetings and NA meetings at least one time per week.
- 2:27:46So based on that your today your parole has been conditionally.
- 2:27:51Granted, good luck. Approved.
- 2:28:11Approved. All right.
- 2:28:16I don't know if they made the right decision or not.
- 2:28:19I'm kind of torn on that one, but.
- 2:28:22Good for him. Hopefully he makes something of
- 2:28:24his life and lives it honorably. All right, back to Judge
- 2:28:28Simpson. Bridget, Nicole, back.
- 2:28:39Thank you, ma'am. What are we doing?
- 2:28:43Your Honor, I've. Provided Mr. Chevalovsky with
- 2:28:46some medical information. I don't know.
- 2:28:48It's been probative at all, Your Honor.
- 2:28:55I have sure turn into it. It happens during the matter.
- 2:29:02April 2nd, 2026, 9:00 AM. Bond continue.
- 2:29:05Thank you, honor. I will submit a green sheet.
- 2:29:08Right. Thank you.
- 2:29:18Workouts case people works with Mario Crawford.
- 2:29:21You're Raven Cook with people probably.
- 2:29:25I'm done, Your Honor. Pardon.
- 2:29:30I'll call you back. Go.
- 2:29:40Ahead, Michael Gatti, Assistant Public Defender for Mr.
- 2:29:42Crawford, Your Honor, State Your name, Mr. Crawford.
- 2:29:44Mario Crawford, Your Honor, you're requesting an
- 2:29:48adjournment. Yes, your Honor.
- 2:29:49We're going to see if Mr. Crawford's a good fit for Judge
- 2:29:51Washington's recovery court. If I could be heard on bond
- 2:29:58Federal cost conference will be adjourned to April 9th 2026 9:00
- 2:30:02AM Master bond. Your honor, he is a as a court's
- 2:30:06wall where he has two cases pending.
- 2:30:07One of them is $1000.10 percent. The other matter is I think
- 2:30:1010,000 cash according to ex jail.
- 2:30:14These he has four holes listed on ex jail.
- 2:30:19None of them look like pickup type holes.
- 2:30:22He is a local person. He's not a flight risk in the in
- 2:30:26terms of leaving the jurisdiction or anything like
- 2:30:28that. I believe he has a place that he
- 2:30:32could stay over with his uncle over off of Ainsworth, over
- 2:30:37there in Ipstein as well as the Delana Center.
- 2:30:41I don't think. He's but these two matters I
- 2:30:46believe are both 2 year matters. He's been in jail for the belief
- 2:30:50100 days. There was a failure to appear
- 2:30:52back in not going to gild the Lily.
- 2:30:54There's a failure to appear back in last August, but I I believe
- 2:30:57he's since righted that type of behavior.
- 2:31:00It it so we'd ask the court for a personal recognizance bond or
- 2:31:04if we if if the court's not inclined to do that with a
- 2:31:09tether. If the court's not inclined to
- 2:31:10do that perhaps or or release the treatment.
- 2:31:13He reports he I've already signed an order for release
- 2:31:16treatment on GPSI thought oh OK, it was.
- 2:31:20I I thought. I only saw it on one.
- 2:31:21I was going to ask for the second one.
- 2:31:22I don't know if it's on both in an order I'll sign off on.
- 2:31:25OK, thank you, yarn. All right, but otherwise this
- 2:31:28bond will continue all the night requests at this point.
- 2:31:31Thank you, Judge. You said, I think sorry, sure.
- 2:31:40Court counts case of the people versus Bernard drops.
- 2:31:42You're going to ring them from the People.
- 2:31:47Good morning, Your honor. Handing back.
- 2:31:48You're requesting permission to practice under Michigan court
- 2:31:50rule 8.120 under senior assistant public Defender Joy
- 2:31:54Gaines. Appreciate practice is granted.
- 2:31:57Thank you. Mr. Brock, can you say your
- 2:32:00name, please? Bernard, are you doing Brock?
- 2:32:04Thank you. Requesting to adjourn this
- 2:32:05matter, Your Honor, I believe a resolution here.
- 2:32:11Probable. Cause Conference April 9th, 2026
- 2:32:139:00 AM. Bond continue.
- 2:32:16Thank you. I'll be in touch, Mr. Prague.
- 2:32:19Thank you, Sir. For close case people verse is
- 2:32:25is Jane Cummings great just for the.
- 2:32:33That's. Miss Pan, on behalf of Miss
- 2:32:39Cummings. Miss Cummings, could you please
- 2:32:40state your name for the record? Ajanay Cummings, John, I do.
- 2:32:44Have a green sheet for her appropriate.
- 2:32:50I'd like to address bond rebel cause conference will be
- 2:33:00adjourned April 2nd, 2026 9:00 AM.
- 2:33:03As for bond. Thank you your honor.
- 2:33:06Your Honor, Currently my client has AI do believe.
- 2:33:10A $2000. Bond, in this particular case,
- 2:33:12we're asking if a 10% provision, I'm sorry, $1000 bond, we're
- 2:33:17asking if the 10% provision could.
- 2:33:19Be added to it. In addition, currently she's not
- 2:33:22allowed to go home. I have it as cash 3010%.
- 2:33:32I. Believe the is it.
- 2:33:34This is the one that said $1000, right?
- 2:33:35You told me you can't do 1000. Yeah, I can't do 1000.
- 2:33:39I don't know if it's 1000. I don't.
- 2:33:41Yeah, and I believe it said 1000.
- 2:33:42She she is. She can't do 1000.
- 2:33:45She's asking for it to be lowered to 100.
- 2:33:51OK. So, Your Honor, the bigger issue
- 2:33:53here is that right now there's a no go to her home.
- 2:33:56Yes. And she wants to be able to go
- 2:33:57back home. In this particular case, as I
- 2:34:01read it, my client has some minimal feeds and while she was
- 2:34:05at the house her boyfriend did call to get some help.
- 2:34:09However, when the police arrived, it's my understanding
- 2:34:11that he was trying to just explain that to him, but instead
- 2:34:14of that, they had her try to leave.
- 2:34:17She didn't understand why she needed to leave because it's her
- 2:34:21home. So then she winds up getting
- 2:34:23additional charges out of it, your honor, But he wants to.
- 2:34:28He wants her home and she wants to.
- 2:34:30Go home, I. Have a response.
- 2:34:39John, I don't. Think we've had any contact with
- 2:34:42the homeowner? I do recall this case.
- 2:34:46I'd asked the Bobby and you. She was being.
- 2:34:49Asked to leave this home and that's a volatile situation,
- 2:34:53but. It's a close.
- 2:34:56Misting matter. It's not a domestic violence.
- 2:34:59I, I I see the charges but I'm trying to figure out, but I also
- 2:35:03see the bond condition. So I'm trying to figure out
- 2:35:06whose home is it. It's it's.
- 2:35:08Her home, she lives there with them.
- 2:35:10They live together. So this is not a domestic
- 2:35:13violence case. She was.
- 2:35:14No, you said that I. Understand rather.
- 2:35:17Knowledge that. The.
- 2:35:18Premise usually is you can't go back because of DV, not because
- 2:35:21you resisted the police at your house.
- 2:35:25OK, I guess I'll agree with you. But I, I this condition is here
- 2:35:33because whether charged or not, there was some altercation that
- 2:35:37occurred there, correct, Your honor?
- 2:35:39Yes. It's my understanding it was
- 2:35:41welfare altercation. Yes.
- 2:35:43It was more about welfare due to her mental health.
- 2:35:45He was trying to get help and it turned into this.
- 2:35:49My apologies, Your honor, please continue.
- 2:35:51I it's like when people talk to me, I actually hear them.
- 2:35:58But if you want to keep going. I do not.
- 2:36:00Oh, if you want to keep going out.
- 2:36:02I absolutely. I hear and patiently Nope.
- 2:36:07So the only question if they both own the premises, is that
- 2:36:15what I have or is it just he may own the premises but she resides
- 2:36:20there? Yes, your Honor, Yes.
- 2:36:24To which one? He he, he owns, he owns it.
- 2:36:27It's in his name and everything but like.
- 2:36:30Live there. Yeah, for the whole time, OK.
- 2:36:33Like I helped him. I'm sorry.
- 2:36:34No, it's OK, I. Got the problem?
- 2:36:36I just have to No, she's doing good.
- 2:36:39You. Are very proud.
- 2:36:41I understand that, Your Honor. So, ma'am.
- 2:36:44Ma'am, how long have you lived there?
- 2:36:46I've been living there the whole time since we got there December
- 2:36:493rd, December 3rd of 2025. OK, got you.
- 2:36:54OK, so here's what I'm going to do.
- 2:37:08I'll, I think she has a 10% privilege on the bond.
- 2:37:11I will fed her bond at a 1010%. I'll just clarify it.
- 2:37:18Thank you, Your Honor. Right.
- 2:37:21So I'll set it at that. I I'll adjourn this out instead
- 2:37:26of two weeks out, I'll adjourn it out to next week 2026 at 9.
- 2:37:33That'll give them time to check with.
- 2:37:37What was the? Game and.
- 2:37:41What was the date? I'm sorry. 26, one week out.
- 2:37:44OK, so instead of two weeks, I'm going to go one week.
- 2:37:47I've made it clear on your bond is the 10% they're going to
- 2:37:50check with him if it's OK then release it.
- 2:37:54If they check before this date, it's a written order to me and
- 2:38:00I'd sign off on it. OK.
- 2:38:01Thank you, Your honor. At this point however, well the
- 2:38:06bond is set there but. OK.
- 2:38:09Ma'am and ma'am, if you so that you're in, so that we're clear,
- 2:38:13if you post this bond before we get clarification, you still you
- 2:38:18can't. I can't go home yet, right?
- 2:38:21OK, now what if how do he gets in contact with them?
- 2:38:25If you don't mind me asking, I. Have no idea they're not using
- 2:38:28my phone. OK, OK.
- 2:38:29OK. All right, Thank you.
- 2:38:30Thank you. Court calls the case, people.
- 2:38:37Worse is Anna Birch, Michael Gaddy, assistant public defender
- 2:38:42on behalf of Miss Berkshire, on it.
- 2:38:44She's approaching the podium. If she could get past Cannon.
- 2:38:50Hi, Your Honor. Hello.
- 2:38:51What's your name? My name is Anna.
- 2:38:53Burch, I don't know if I should. Raise my hand or what?
- 2:38:56OK, you don't know if what? Oh, I wasn't sure if I should
- 2:38:59raise my hand or not. I wasn't sure what my name is.
- 2:39:01Anna Burch. Want to raise your hand?
- 2:39:02I guess there's no purposes there.
- 2:39:04You want to be sworn in? No.
- 2:39:07No, Sir. I didn't know I was just.
- 2:39:10Trying to make everybody happy, I.
- 2:39:11Don't want All right today. All right, what are we doing?
- 2:39:17Yes, your name. Okie, Dokie.
- 2:39:39Since he's muted, let's go back down to Texas.
- 2:39:42Check back in with Judge Stevens.
- 2:39:49He's does all right. In two cases are are called we
- 2:40:02have 23 CR 826 which is a motion to revoke probation filed
- 2:40:09October 1st of 2025. So that's heading toward a half
- 2:40:16a year, which alleges, among other things, the defendant,
- 2:40:23while on probation for the offensive manufacturing or
- 2:40:29delivery of a controlled substance of first degree
- 2:40:31felony, he committed the offenses of illegal possession
- 2:40:35of a controlled substance. And then also #2 associated with
- 2:40:42this a disreputable person and was present where they were.
- 2:40:46A criminal act was being committed on that same day where
- 2:40:50he is allegedly committed to the offense allegedly allegation one
- 2:40:55of the motion to revoke probation.
- 2:40:57This indictment ended up on July 30th.
- 2:41:02That was that's a that was once a day on probation Judge.
- 2:41:06There's another case. He was placed on probation June
- 2:41:119th. So this, well no.
- 2:41:15This is on or about August August 27th 2020, 24th a year
- 2:41:21before. April.
- 2:41:23Wow, that thing took a while. Then it could process through.
- 2:41:26So you've got a another indictment already pending that
- 2:41:34is based upon an event allegedly occurring before you were placed
- 2:41:40on probation. Yeah, the the possession is
- 2:41:47alleged in the motion to revoke probation is a new offense that
- 2:41:51came to our office, has been sent back to the police to
- 2:41:53refile it as a manufacturer delivery or possession with
- 2:41:56intent to deliver. So the new charges are coming
- 2:42:00down that that have not been indicted yet.
- 2:42:07So we're going to end. What do you want to do today?
- 2:42:10The judge my against my concern. Now at this point, my client,
- 2:42:13he's been in custody since September.
- 2:42:16This is the only hole that has in the person right now.
- 2:42:19It's a serious hole. It's a it's, I'm sorry, it's
- 2:42:24dealing with drugs. And this is more than four
- 2:42:33ounce. It says more, more than 40 oz
- 2:42:40and less than 5 lbs. What does that come to?
- 2:42:45I'm not just serious office. There's a there's a lot of
- 2:42:49different that violation is, is most serious if it's 40 ounces.
- 2:42:55And and of course to this point Judge, I mean for defense
- 2:42:58standpoint, we haven't had opportunity to review or see any
- 2:43:01of this at this point see what's going.
- 2:43:03On well and he's also on regular probation and the the court and
- 2:43:12this indictment also alleges it's a third degree felony.
- 2:43:17He's confused in a second he is accused of a prior conviction
- 2:43:26out of 1992. God bless us all.
- 2:43:29I guess we were that young again and out of the 250 seconds.
- 2:43:34So this third degree felony is enhanced to 2nd degree
- 2:43:37punishment if that's all found true.
- 2:43:41But all of this except for this unauthorized use, this is all
- 2:43:49drugs. This are all drunks.
- 2:43:53You know better. You've been, your hand has been
- 2:43:55spanked. You know your hand, the fire
- 2:43:59buns. You see, But yet.
- 2:44:01You and you embrace the stove again.
- 2:44:06You just go right back to the same type of actions and.
- 2:44:16Decisions. That have gotten you here in
- 2:44:20trouble in the 1st place. So how much times are you asking
- 2:44:26for? Because I'm not letting him out.
- 2:44:28No, he's since he's incarcerated.
- 2:44:32Why don't we just look at it, do a couple of weeks, get them
- 2:44:34chance to get the reports in so we can let him look at stuff and
- 2:44:37we can talk. Is that good?
- 2:44:39For now it's two weeks wrong. That way we don't just leave him
- 2:44:42in there for a long time waiting.
- 2:44:43I don't like people by languishing in.
- 2:44:45There but. 2. To get.
- 2:44:47You need enough time if you think 2 weeks is good to prepare
- 2:44:50for that. Thank you Javen Sims, what are
- 2:45:00we going to do on David Sims? Do you have it done?
- 2:45:06I'm about to fill it out now, Jerry.
- 2:45:08OK, thanks. Because we're in a trial here.
- 2:45:10You'd be so kind to Ashley. Thank you for gifting 5
- 2:45:15memberships. Very much appreciate that.
- 2:45:17And thank you for taking on the role of Barbara today.
- 2:45:20Appreciate that as well. Let's do this.
- 2:45:24Let's go experience some Kentucky justice to round out
- 2:45:28the day. Again, we're doing 3 hours
- 2:45:29today, not 4, but this is Judge David Williams.
- 2:45:33Let's go there. Commonwealth versus Willie
- 2:45:37Daniels. Are you Willie Daniels?
- 2:45:40Yes, Sir. Morning.
- 2:45:42We're. Here 26 CR 002 and 25 CR 0058.
- 2:45:49Mr. Daniels, were you born in 1997?
- 2:45:53Yes Sir. Yes Sir.
- 2:45:59You're for sentence. Have you had an opportunity to
- 2:46:01look at the pre sentence investigation report down by
- 2:46:03probation parole? Yes Sir, essentially correct.
- 2:46:11Councillor, is there any reason why this gentleman should not be
- 2:46:15sentenced today? There isn't judge there.
- 2:46:17There was 1 issue when it pleased the court.
- 2:46:19I'd like to bring it up concerning the PSA.
- 2:46:22They gave him 12 days credit. I don't understand, you know, it
- 2:46:27might be because of two different cases, but he actually
- 2:46:30went into jail December 17th of last year and we figured that up
- 2:46:35he'd have 91 days instead of 12. Well, you can hit with
- 2:46:41probation, parole, corrections. We'll take a look at that.
- 2:46:45And if you don't agree with the resolution on that, you can
- 2:46:47bring it back to the yes Sir. Upon a plea of guilty under that
- 2:46:52my #26 CR 002 for a charge of trafficking over 2 grams with
- 2:46:59Venice Shell receiver sentence of five years.
- 2:47:01I don't feel guilty on 26 CR 002 for track first degree cocaine
- 2:47:08Class C felony received five years.
- 2:47:11An indictment 26 CR 0025 years shall learn concurrently for a
- 2:47:16total of five years to serve upon.
- 2:47:19Pleaded guilty to indictment #25CR0058.
- 2:47:23For the charge of tampering with physical evidence, the
- 2:47:27defendant. To receive a sentence of five
- 2:47:37years, the five year sentence in 002 and a five year sentence in
- 2:47:430058 shall run concurrently for a total of five years.
- 2:47:47To finish the post probation, she'll receive credit for time
- 2:47:50served. What's the court cost about this
- 2:47:52200 and 65265 dollars? I'll let you pay that at $40 a
- 2:47:58month starting 30 days after your release of incarceration.
- 2:48:02Could he serve that out? Judge?
- 2:48:05Do what? Could he serve it out The fine?
- 2:48:08I don't think so. It'll be the three days.
- 2:48:13I just let him pay we. Need the money.
- 2:48:15Get Fair and Frankfurt, they need the money.
- 2:48:16I can understand that. OK.
- 2:48:20Thank you, Christopher Duis. I'm welcome.
- 2:48:31Christopher Louise, 25 CR 0028. Are you Christopher Louise?
- 2:48:37Yes, Sir. Born in 1969.
- 2:48:40Yes, Sir. Last four digits, Social
- 2:48:43Security number 4272. Yes, Sir.
- 2:48:47Your probation revocation. What does the Commonwealth have
- 2:48:49to say? Well, he has a three-year
- 2:48:51sentence on protection, and Miss Meredith is here to testify in
- 2:48:57this. Case.
- 2:48:57Hillary, Meredith. OK, he's on the same.
- 2:49:01Can you raise your right hand, officer?
- 2:49:03You swear the testimony about to give us the truth, old truth,
- 2:49:05and nothing but the truth. I do.
- 2:49:08State your name with whom you're employed.
- 2:49:11Hilary and Meredith employed with probation and parole in
- 2:49:14Metcalf County. May pursue Miss Meredith.
- 2:49:17Have you been supervising or attempting to supervise
- 2:49:19Christopher Dewis? Yes.
- 2:49:22When did that begin? 12/15 of 2025, Jane, can you
- 2:49:27tell the court what's happened since that time as far as his
- 2:49:31failure to comply? Yes, the issue has started.
- 2:49:35On 12/16 of 2025, he was assessed by SSC Miller after a
- 2:49:43drug use. He was recommended to enroll an
- 2:49:46outpatient with Floor Life Counseling.
- 2:49:49He completed his initial appointment with Floor Life on
- 2:49:53112. Excuse me 1122026, but as of
- 2:49:58today, well the date of the report which was 2/24, she had
- 2:50:04advised Keisha with Fuller life, advised that he had failed to
- 2:50:08show up for all of his other scheduled appointments.
- 2:50:15And then we've got failure to report after his last use of
- 2:50:20meth. She, the SSC reassessed him on
- 2:50:252/12, recommended he enroll in IOP.
- 2:50:29He reported on 2/16 to do that IOP paperwork, but he refused to
- 2:50:34sign that paperwork that day. He had questions about it, so I
- 2:50:39offered for him to come back in the next day where we could
- 2:50:41explain that paperwork to him. However, when he came in or he
- 2:50:46did not come in that next day. I had to call.
- 2:50:50And try and get in touch with him.
- 2:50:52When I finally got in touch with him, I told him to come in,
- 2:50:56attempted to go over that paperwork with him.
- 2:50:58He wanted to argue the entire time.
- 2:51:02He was also drug tested that day and positive for meth.
- 2:51:06He denied meth use adamantly. We sent that to the lab for
- 2:51:11confirmation. In the meantime, the SSC told
- 2:51:16him to go ahead and do his IOP. But then on the 3rd of this
- 2:51:22month his labs came back positive for meth.
- 2:51:25OK well did he once he was told to go back to the old PD to
- 2:51:29participate or was he arrested? He was, and he was arrested for
- 2:51:35the labs. Coming back positive.
- 2:51:36So the way I read this, he's had a positive test at Fuller Life
- 2:51:41and then he had another positive test where he denied use.
- 2:51:44Is that correct? That's correct.
- 2:51:46And he was both argumentative with you and was he
- 2:51:48argumentative with the SSC? He was.
- 2:51:51And he was argumentative with Fuller Life as well.
- 2:51:55OK. And I think you put in your
- 2:51:57reports, you said that you spent the majority of your time
- 2:52:00arguing with him regarding SSC and IOP and he's adamant without
- 2:52:05having a drug problem, even though it's proven that he has
- 2:52:07had one. That's correct.
- 2:52:09And also you put in the in the report that he was
- 2:52:11confrontational. What did you mean by that?
- 2:52:14Just arguing. He, he said that he didn't know
- 2:52:18why he had to do this, continuing just to argue about
- 2:52:24the fact that he did not have meth in his system, even though,
- 2:52:28you know, the labs showed that he did have meth in his system,
- 2:52:33but that's mainly what he was confrontational about.
- 2:52:36Thank you. I have no further question.
- 2:52:38George inquires. Yes, Sir.
- 2:52:44Officer Meredith. He in IOP for their life in in
- 2:52:52December. Or in January.
- 2:52:57He began in January, you said IOP or was this outpatient or
- 2:53:03IOP? Did you say IOP?
- 2:53:07I did say IOP, but he began outpatient in as well,
- 2:53:11outpatient on the 12th and then he failed to keep those
- 2:53:15appointments. Can I say something right here,
- 2:53:18please? Hold on.
- 2:53:19Mr. Dewey should get a chance, OK.
- 2:53:20Thank you. Officer Meredith, this is your
- 2:53:28your first time supervising Mr. Dewey.
- 2:53:31That's correct. OK.
- 2:53:36Did he ever call and indicate that he was sick for a period of
- 2:53:40time in January or February? Did he ever call and what and
- 2:53:45indicate that he was sick in January or February?
- 2:53:49Yes. He didn't mention being sick.
- 2:53:55And on 2/24, you administered a urine drug screen at the office?
- 2:54:02That's correct. It's Officer Bray.
- 2:54:05OK. Are you familiar with the
- 2:54:08process that was used for the drug test?
- 2:54:13Yes. Yes.
- 2:54:15Did they use a brand new test sample cup?
- 2:54:21We use a sample cup to make sure that we get enough sample in the
- 2:54:26cup before we open a brand new panel cup.
- 2:54:31But yes. And Mr. Dewey's was present
- 2:54:33during that. And that sample cup that was,
- 2:54:36that was unused, correct? And then that was sent to the
- 2:54:44lab. That's correct.
- 2:54:47Did you you also tested that on site?
- 2:54:53Did we what you you also tested that on site?
- 2:54:57That's correct. OK.
- 2:55:00Is it possible that there are sometimes false positives that
- 2:55:04the lab picks up for other things other than
- 2:55:09methamphetamine? It's possible that it could test
- 2:55:11positive. It's always possible.
- 2:55:14OK. And so did you have a personal
- 2:55:29conversation with Keisha Robbins with Fuller Life?
- 2:55:32I did. OK, he went to his appointment
- 2:55:38on 2/26 and was there the entire time.
- 2:55:44Correct. On 2/26.
- 2:55:47Yes. I am not sure, I'd have to look.
- 2:55:55I believe you. Advised that Mister Lease came
- 2:55:58to his appointment on 2/26, he was confrontational.
- 2:56:03Yes, that is correct. My apologies, but you're not
- 2:56:06aware that the visit was cut short?
- 2:56:11No, I was not aware. OK.
- 2:56:17Are you aware that Mister Deweese also has medical issues
- 2:56:22with his ankle currently, yes. OK.
- 2:56:31So just to recap since December he's had two positive drug test
- 2:56:42total that's correct. But he was tested more than two
- 2:56:47times during that period and he has had clean tests during that
- 2:56:51time with us. He has only had to he is only
- 2:57:02the first time he admitted you see was positive at Fuller life.
- 2:57:06The second time he was positive at our.
- 2:57:08Office. But he's been tested on February
- 2:57:123rd or February 6th and that was a clean test.
- 2:57:23I don't recall a test on February 5th with us.
- 2:57:37And then just one last question. This is Mr. Weese's first time
- 2:57:42being on supervision. And so you did take the time to
- 2:57:45explain more of the paperwork in the IOP process to him, correct?
- 2:57:50That's correct. OK.
- 2:57:53And Mr. De Weese, he, he asks a lot of questions.
- 2:57:57Yes. No further.
- 2:58:00Questions, John. No, wait, wait.
- 2:58:03Have you other witnesses? I.
- 2:58:05Have no other, but yeah. Any witnesses?
- 2:58:06I'd like to call Mr. de Weese. Mr. Dewey, you raise your right
- 2:58:09hand, please. You swear the testimony best
- 2:58:11gives you truth, hold truth and nothing I do, Sir.
- 2:58:16Mr. Dewey, can you state your name for the record?
- 2:58:19Christopher Allen Dewey. And can you kind of explain your
- 2:58:26side of the story beginning in December of what?
- 2:58:29Your understanding of outpatient and IOP?
- 2:58:33I didn't understand none of it to be honest.
- 2:58:35And on December 16th, I was given a real test at your
- 2:58:39office, Miss Meredith, where it's clean.
- 2:58:42January 11th is the last day I used meth.
- 2:58:44Now to tell you that for 100% certainly because of what Miss
- 2:58:47Keisha said to me, she said much to Chris.
- 2:58:50I can't explain to you how you feel or what.
- 2:58:52You're going through? I didn't.
- 2:58:53Walk in your shoes, she said. But your children and your
- 2:58:57grandchildren, you just talk so highly of if you test positive
- 2:59:00for meth for your promotion, they can revoke you and
- 2:59:03essentially your children, they will not see you no more.
- 2:59:06That clicked in my head, your honor and I have not used meth
- 2:59:08since January the 11th. And then after the first
- 2:59:12assessment over and full of life, they did not send me the
- 2:59:15link that's like I was supposed to is why I missed that
- 2:59:18appointment and then the second link they sent me.
- 2:59:21Is when we had. The ice.
- 2:59:22Storm I was out electricity for four days and my phone was dead.
- 2:59:25That's why I missed. That second appointment with
- 2:59:27them and it was all set up to go March the 9th and then I got put
- 2:59:32in in here on March the 4th and which I tested pot to clean
- 2:59:35positive on March the 4th. I come in here with Richard
- 2:59:37Casey Collins and also February 3rd or 6th one at McCabe County.
- 2:59:41Wait, I can't understand the thing he's saying.
- 2:59:44Can't understand. I don't know whether it's a
- 2:59:46microphone or he's too close to the whatever.
- 2:59:51So let's talk a little slower into this.
- 2:59:55OK. Follow what he's saying.
- 2:59:56Yes, Sir. Mr. Louise, if you can talk
- 2:59:59slower and louder. OK, I'll try my best.
- 3:00:03I'm sorry, but so January the 11th, the last day that I did
- 3:00:07use Miss, I will admit to that. And I can tell you 100%
- 3:00:11positive. That's my last time because of
- 3:00:12what Miss Keisha said to me. She said that if I could pee.
- 3:00:17Positive for my parole officer, I will not see my kids or my
- 3:00:20grandchildren and that clicked with me on her and I have not
- 3:00:23used been since January the 11th.
- 3:00:25I went to my physical therapy, I got sick and I was taking all
- 3:00:29kinds of over the counter medication for being sick, but
- 3:00:32I'm not February. 3rd. February 6th Miss Meredith in
- 3:00:36Maycat county Chase Collins Bureau kissed on me it come back
- 3:00:39clean. I done one February 16th for
- 3:00:43y'all over there. It was clean.
- 3:00:46She doesn't want it me the. Day I got arrested over here,
- 3:00:48March 4th, Mr. Chase done that. I was clean.
- 3:00:51And yes, Mr. Mr. Deweese, can you explain what happened when
- 3:00:58you were giving the urine test on 2/24?
- 3:01:02The sample cup they gave me, it did not come from a freshly
- 3:01:05opened package. It was just laying in like a
- 3:01:08storage trash can in an unopened box.
- 3:01:11No place to wrapping whatsoever. It was just a cup.
- 3:01:16And they gave me to. Put my.
- 3:01:18Sample into and I can. Yes, I did get argumented with
- 3:01:21that over my sample, but as far as being argumented with those,
- 3:01:24I did not mean to be. I was just.
- 3:01:26Asking questions. I can't, I can't understand what
- 3:01:29he's saying. We're going to have to have him
- 3:01:30brought here. I can't understand what he's
- 3:01:33saying here. Here's the thing about it saying
- 3:01:39he did this and did that and all this kind of stuff back for I
- 3:01:44need to get him you you'll get to cross examine him in a
- 3:01:48second. I mean, he say he didn't violate
- 3:01:50anything. Ask him what he did violate.
- 3:01:52That's not until he's saying he's had a clean test beside.
- 3:01:55Yeah, I mean, that's that's just like saying somebody walked down
- 3:01:59the street for 10 days in a row and didn't shoot anybody, you
- 3:02:06know, and then three days he did.
- 3:02:09Yeah. I, I don't understand.
- 3:02:10I mean, he denied having concentrated on the violations
- 3:02:14that he's accused of. Yes, he is.
- 3:02:16He is admitting to violating the urine test on January 12th.
- 3:02:21He is disputing the 224 because in his opinion, he was not using
- 3:02:28a brand new sample cup. Well, of course, I don't think
- 3:02:30he's got he's not an expert in that.
- 3:02:33So I mean, go ahead and watch the other stuff, Your Honor.
- 3:02:41What I mean by that, if you can understand me, is the cup, the
- 3:02:43sample cup she gave me, it was already open.
- 3:02:46It was not in a package. And then, Mr. Deweese, how did
- 3:02:53your conversation go with Miss Robbins at Fuller Life?
- 3:02:57I thought it went wonderful. I mean, we was laughing and Joe
- 3:03:00and cutting. Up.
- 3:03:01And I was there 45 minutes to an hour that day and they done a
- 3:03:06drug. Test on me also.
- 3:03:07That day I do not know the results of them.
- 3:03:14Got it. I I think that's all the
- 3:03:17testimony we'll need from you. Like yours, Cross.
- 3:03:20I do not wish to. OK.
- 3:03:22You have any other witnesses? Yes, Sir.
- 3:03:24OK. You make your argument.
- 3:03:27Yes, Sir. Mr. Deweese was placed on three
- 3:03:31years pre probated for five. Your honor, his wife passed
- 3:03:37January or November 24. He first used meth January 25
- 3:03:41which resulted in these charges. He is mid 50s, has not had any
- 3:03:47previous felonies that I'm aware of.
- 3:03:50He has never been to treatment greater than outpatient IOP.
- 3:03:55He currently has an ankle injury that's why he's on crutches.
- 3:03:59He has a follow up, CTI believe the end of the month.
- 3:04:03He has a plate and screws and a boot on his ankle.
- 3:04:10We would be asking this court to not revoke his probation, allow
- 3:04:15him to get back out on IOP. I've had a conversation with Mr.
- 3:04:18Deweese. The allegation is that he's
- 3:04:21confrontational. I believe Mr. Deweese is
- 3:04:23inquisitive and curious and that it can sometimes be taken as
- 3:04:29argumentative or authoritative or confrontational.
- 3:04:32I've advised Mr. Deweese that while he's on probation, he's
- 3:04:38going to have to mind his QS, PS and QS, Your honor.
- 3:04:41So I would ask this court to not revoke him, give him the chance
- 3:04:45to get out on IOP. If the court is not willing to
- 3:04:47do that, allow him to do a short term treatment.
- 3:04:51He is, he has never had treatment.
- 3:04:52He's mid 50s, has never been done any treatment greater than
- 3:04:57outpatient or IOP. And so we would ask for some
- 3:05:00type of therapeutic response to this, to this revocation.
- 3:05:06There are, you know, I think the problem isn't one of the, one of
- 3:05:18the bases for revocation is and, and I think there's 2 routes to
- 3:05:22court can go in this. Either revoke his probation or
- 3:05:24send him to treatment because he's proven that he's not
- 3:05:27amenable to being supervised by probation.
- 3:05:30He's had failed drug tests. He's failed to attend
- 3:05:32appointments he's denied. Drug.
- 3:05:34Use when the lab's been positive and then saying they didn't do
- 3:05:37their procedures properly. He's been argumentative with the
- 3:05:40probation officer. With SSC, they've had to assess
- 3:05:42him like 3 * / a two-month period and he wouldn't show up.
- 3:05:47So I I just don't believe he's a minimal to being supervised.
- 3:05:51It's it's very rarely that I file a motion to revoke after 2
- 3:05:54positive meth tests. But it's not just the 2 positive
- 3:05:56meth test. It's all this other garbage he's
- 3:05:59been putting these probation officers through in between.
- 3:06:01It's like he thinks so that he's their only case.
- 3:06:04What was the the original charge was just it's possession.
- 3:06:08It's a three-year sentence. And this deal about him saying
- 3:06:11he wouldn't get to see his grandmother and I mean his
- 3:06:13grandkids and stuff. If he's revoked on a three-year
- 3:06:16sentence, he's going to be out in 60 to 90 days.
- 3:06:18It's not like it's. What about, you know, what about
- 3:06:24drug court? I just don't think he can
- 3:06:27comply. He can't comply with these
- 3:06:28probation officers. I don't, I, you know, I, I, I
- 3:06:31concur with what the Commonwealth has to say.
- 3:06:35This, this gentleman, I, I, I don't know him.
- 3:06:38He's argumentative. I mean, he's wanting to complain
- 3:06:41about the cup, you know, I mean, does he think any, they have
- 3:06:45any, like this cup would have made any difference?
- 3:06:49He believes it was a contaminated copier.
- 3:06:52He believes that, but he believes every, I mean, he just
- 3:06:55is not subject to being compliant with any of these
- 3:06:59things and not showing up, that sort of thing.
- 3:07:01I mean, I I don't know what else to.
- 3:07:03Do with with him. Can I say one more thing?
- 3:07:08See now this. Is what I'm telling you're
- 3:07:12revoked. That's it.
- 3:07:14I'm sorry you're revoked. No, I'm not going to sit around
- 3:07:19and listen to what they have to listen to all the time and to be
- 3:07:22non compliant and disrespectful. It does not work in this court.
- 3:07:25OK, I'm sorry. All right, what?
- 3:07:26Is it trying to be? OK, that's so you're finished.
- 3:07:29Take him away from the microphone.
- 3:07:33All right, well, that's a great place to leave it for today.
- 3:07:35Then my friends, again, apologies, no 4th hour today.
- 3:07:38I need to attend to other things, but we will be back
- 3:07:41tonight for sidebar. 8:00 PM Eastern, 5:00 PM Pacific, right
- 3:07:44here on this channel. There's a link up in the pin,
- 3:07:46just chat. So do check that out.
- 3:07:48And of course, we'll be back here tomorrow morning. 6:00 AM
- 3:07:51Eastern, 9:00 AM Eastern, 6:00 AM Pacific.
- 3:07:53One of those I don't know, pick a time, we'll be here.
- 3:07:56Anywho, go have yourselves a great day.
- 3:07:58Look forward to seeing you all again soon.
- 3:08:00Take care, God bless.