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Steve Price | 27 March · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price. Good evening. We'll to the
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Speaker 1: Friday Show a week out from the East to break
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Speaker 1: and our fuel crisis goes from bad to worse. We'll
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Speaker 1: have full updates. Plus we'll have our eye on that
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Speaker 1: WA cyclone norell that's due to hit coastal towns as
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Speaker 1: we go to air tonight. Here's what's coming up on
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Speaker 1: Friday Night's Fuel and fertilizer. They are the flashpoints at
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Speaker 1: home as the war in the Middle East rages on.
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Speaker 1: We'll take you to regional Victoria in a moment where
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Speaker 1: at least one petrol station ran dry and farmers are
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Speaker 1: getting desperate. I'll talk to local Nathan Falvo. He'll join
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Speaker 1: us on the program. President Donald Trump again calls out
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Speaker 1: Australia and our lack of help in the Middle East conflict.
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Speaker 1: Plus he again calls out the UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
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Speaker 1: Friday Night regular Aiden Hayes joins us from Hong Kong
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Speaker 1: this week and a wild weekend tipped in back room
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Speaker 1: politics in Queensland, including debate around the Senate ticket and
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Speaker 1: National's leader Matt Canavan's unwinnable spot. Former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman.
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Speaker 1: I'll also get his view on the fuel crisis in Queensland.
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Speaker 1: But first, can the federal government stop treating Australians like
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Speaker 1: mugs when it comes to the biggest crisis of confidence
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Speaker 1: in our nation since the COVID outbreak that shut us
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Speaker 1: down six years ago. This very weekend, drive past any
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Speaker 1: petrol station, talk to anyone who runs a farm, or
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Speaker 1: a trucking company or a supermarket and tell them, like
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Speaker 1: Minister Chris Bowen keeps trying to tell us, and like
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister keeps trying to tell us, that we
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Speaker 1: have plenty of fuel, indeed more than we had at
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Speaker 1: the same time a year ago. The Prime Minister was
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Speaker 1: added again this morning, have a look.
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Speaker 2: The fact that some regional areas have had those shortages.
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Speaker 2: We know that that is about distributional issues, because there
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Speaker 2: hasn't been a reduction in supply of fuel into Australia
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Speaker 2: or indeed production. Indeed there's been an increase in production.
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Speaker 1: But as Shadow Minister Shadow Energy Minister Dan Teen pointed out,
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Speaker 1: there is a lack of confidence in what the government
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Speaker 1: is actually doing and if they even have an emergency
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Speaker 1: plan if it is required.
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Speaker 3: What is going wrong that's the question we want to know.
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Speaker 3: And is it in competence or is it a lack
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Speaker 3: of planning? Is it because they are asleep at the
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Speaker 3: wheel at the start of the war. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: but we need to see the PM level with us
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Speaker 3: about what is really going on on Monday.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: National Cabinet's going to meet again next Monday, and I
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Speaker 1: think all Australians would hope that out of that meeting
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Speaker 1: we're allowed to know what is the short and long
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Speaker 1: term plan that the federal and state governments will implement.
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Speaker 1: We just need to know. I mean, Bown and albanezy
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Speaker 1: Sea to have forgotten the trauma we all went through
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Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one with the
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Speaker 1: COVID pandemic. There is even talk in Victoria today the
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Speaker 1: schools are sending out notes to parents saying that if
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Speaker 1: you're not an essential worker, then your child might have
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Speaker 1: to be educated from home. Seriously. Now, Ironically, next Monday
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Speaker 1: is the sixth anniversary of Victoria's first COVID lockdown that
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Speaker 1: lasted six weeks in a day, and at the time
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Speaker 1: Scott Morrison told Australians there was no issues with food
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Speaker 1: supply we had plenty of food, but there was an
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Speaker 1: issue with the behavior of people in supermarkets. That's a
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Speaker 1: direct quote from Morrison. I mean, does that sound familiar.
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Speaker 1: We are now being told there is no problems with
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Speaker 1: fuel supply. The problem is with the demand, meaning too
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Speaker 1: many of us are constantly filling up our tanks and
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Speaker 1: farmers are filling up Jerry cans. Well, of course we
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Speaker 1: are because the general public and the farming sector in
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Speaker 1: particular out in the real world, and there will come
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Speaker 1: a time when supply is an issue. Now Bowen and
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Speaker 1: Albanezi are also trotting out the line that the Coalition
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Speaker 1: are using this crisis for political points, scoring somehow, having
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Speaker 1: you believe it's improper to our simple things like what
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Speaker 1: was your plan in the lead up to all of this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, surely you and your army of public servants
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Speaker 1: had wargamed what would happen if a conflict in the
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Speaker 1: Middle East blocked the narrow straits of hormales and oil
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Speaker 1: couldn't get to our main suppliers in places like South Korea,
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Speaker 1: Singapore and China. Now it seems there were no plans,
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Speaker 1: unlike across the Ditch in New Zealand, as we hear
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Speaker 1: today where the luxe and government not only has much
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Speaker 1: bigger reserves of fuel than we have here where the
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Speaker 1: Kiwis have been told we've got a four stage plan
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Speaker 1: toward petrol and diesel rationing. If it's needed, we are
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Speaker 1: at stage two now. Opposition leader Angus Taylor needs to
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Speaker 1: step up big time here. He needs to highlight to
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Speaker 1: the deer in the headlights, that is the government appears
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Speaker 1: to be the PM who was a little like his
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Speaker 1: dithering after the Bondai massacre, seems to be reluctant to
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Speaker 1: do anything. I mean, sacking Chris Bowen would be your start,
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Speaker 1: but he won't sadly do that. Here was Taylor out
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Speaker 1: with his new NAT's leader Matt Canavan this morning at
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Speaker 1: a petrol station outside Canberra.
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Speaker 5: We're seeing this crisis right across our country right now,
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Speaker 5: and we're seeing a government that has failed to show leadership,
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Speaker 5: has failed to show urgency, and has failed to take action.
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Speaker 1: Mat Canavan, of course, the Sky regular has for years
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Speaker 1: been warning regarding the lack of will in this country
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Speaker 1: to utilize all the energy assets we have available coal, gas, oil, uranium,
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Speaker 1: and he should keep making those points over and over
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Speaker 1: and over again, because as the surge to one nation shows,
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Speaker 1: Australians are rapidly growing numbers agree with him, absolutely agree
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Speaker 1: with him. Canavan and Bridget Mackenzie where with Taylor this morning?
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Speaker 5: And we've gone into this crisis in a vulnerable position
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Speaker 5: because the Labor Party could not manage their own budgets.
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Speaker 6: When the trucks stop, our country stops. Trucking operators are
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Speaker 6: telling me that they're having to part trucks on the
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Speaker 6: side of the road because they cannot afford to fill them.
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Speaker 1: Now the PM has of course appointed some sort of
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Speaker 1: fuel zar Antha Harris, with many questions around her experience
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Speaker 1: in dealing with things like logistics. She was appointed a
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Speaker 1: week ago and I'm sure she's doing her best, but
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Speaker 1: what exactly is she doing? I mean meetings, We seem
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Speaker 1: to just have meetings. One of the first people that
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Speaker 1: I'd talked to would be Ron Finnimore, who runs a
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Speaker 1: fleet of two hundred and eighty prime movers employing nine
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Speaker 1: hundred people at Finnmore's Transport. You see Ron's trucks on
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Speaker 1: the main routes between Sydney and Melbourne particular all the time.
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Speaker 1: And Ron today said, quote, some people in the industry
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Speaker 1: are on the verge of a crisis, and too many
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Speaker 1: people in charge are hoping like hell for a miracle.
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Speaker 1: End of quote. I mean blunt, experienced and honest. He
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Speaker 1: went on to say, I don't deal in miracles. We
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Speaker 1: deal in reality. And that reality is, according to Finnimore,
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Speaker 1: that a Sydney Melbourne truck run is now costing his
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Speaker 1: company twelve hundred dollars more for each trip than it
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Speaker 1: was before March one. Why don't make him the fuels
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Speaker 1: are now just before I go to Nathan Falvo in
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Speaker 1: Regional Victoria and this will make him even angrier than
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Speaker 1: he is already. The Prime Minister today at his media
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Speaker 1: conference actually said this when asked about the Opposition leader's
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Speaker 1: call to slash fuel taxes as a short term cost
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Speaker 1: of living fix.
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Speaker 2: I don't think is anyone out there today who has
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Speaker 2: bought electric vehicle who's regretting the decision at this point
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Speaker 2: in time.
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Speaker 1: What the hell is that about? Thanks Albo, That'll go
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Speaker 1: down well with average Australians hoping to get away for easter,
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Speaker 1: or a farmer staring at the possibility of not being
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Speaker 1: able to sow a winter crop, or even fertilize it
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Speaker 1: out of touch with real Australia. You bet you are
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Speaker 1: now talking about real Australia. Let's head to Victoria's northwest
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Speaker 1: and the small community of robin Vale that's on the
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Speaker 1: Mighty Murray River. Now, robin Vale, I go there because
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Speaker 1: it was mentioned, I think not last week the week
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Speaker 1: before in federal Parliament that it was one of the
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Speaker 1: first communities in the country to have a petrol station
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Speaker 1: with a runout of fuel sign. Nathan Valvo runs a
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Speaker 1: convenience store, a farm and a labor business in that community.
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Speaker 1: Joins us. Now he's warned that everyday Australians don't understand
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Speaker 1: how bad it's about to get. Now, Nathan welcome. I mean,
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Speaker 1: do you reckon any of those politicians, federal or state
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Speaker 1: actually understand how bad this is going to get.
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Speaker 7: It's quite obvious they're not going to understand how bad
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Speaker 7: it's going to get.
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Speaker 8: Steve, it's been three weeks.
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Speaker 7: That photo that you just put up was two Saturdays ago,
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Speaker 7: so it's nearly been fourteen days now and off recommendations
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Speaker 7: from myself from other prominent business leaders on.
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Speaker 8: What to do to help us, and they've still done nothing.
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Speaker 1: I think it's so important to talk to someone who's
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Speaker 1: living the experience in real time like you are. Tell
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Speaker 1: me Nathan about the sort of conversations you're having with
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Speaker 1: your local community, particularly the farmers, those people employing people
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Speaker 1: in the community.
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Speaker 7: It's quite sad, to be honest, Steve. We're one of
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Speaker 7: the fruit bowls for the whole country right now. It's
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Speaker 7: harvest time right now.
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Speaker 8: The growers have been.
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Speaker 7: Growing a product for the last twelve months to get
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Speaker 7: to this point where they harvest, send it out to
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Speaker 7: the market and eventually hopefully start getting a return on
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Speaker 7: their investment over the last twelve months. Okay, now, these people,
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Speaker 7: I've never seen so much stress and.
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Speaker 8: Anguish in my community.
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Speaker 7: The cost of diesel is probably the biggest issue. Supply
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Speaker 7: has just starting to stabilize now still not at full locations,
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Speaker 7: but the cost of diesel is just it's ludicrous. These
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Speaker 7: farmers already work on a tight margin the way it is.
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Speaker 7: Put on top of this the cost of diesel, and
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Speaker 7: a lot of these people are questioning is it even
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Speaker 7: viable to do what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's so sad given the hard work that
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Speaker 1: they put in, as you say, providing food for the
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Speaker 1: rest of Australia, particularly fruit from that region, grapes and
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Speaker 1: other things. Are they mentally struggling?
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Speaker 8: You know, I deal and talk with a lot of
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Speaker 8: people in the community, Steve, and I.
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Speaker 7: Really put my hand out there for them to have
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Speaker 7: a chat with me if need be, because they're really struggling.
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Speaker 7: And like I said, it's really sad to see that
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Speaker 7: the farmers that feed our nation are at the point
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Speaker 7: where they're questioning can I continue. And make no mistake,
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Speaker 7: farmers are the most resilient people that you'll ever meet,
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Speaker 7: but even they've got a breaking point.
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Speaker 1: Steed, now, Robin Vale, I mean for the rest of
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Speaker 1: our national audience about it as far away from Melbourne
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Speaker 1: as you can get in Victoria. I presume you know
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are staying local over the easter
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Speaker 1: next weekend, so you're also going to suffer financially because
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Speaker 1: I presume, Nathan, if I'm not mistaken, that a lot
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Speaker 1: of the tourists who would come up to the Murray
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Speaker 1: for an easter to break would be canceling because they
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Speaker 1: simply can't afford to get there.
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Speaker 7: Pretty much, there's not many people traveling out of Rocknvelt
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Speaker 7: at the moment because it's a harvest period, so everyone's
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Speaker 7: busy working. I'm actually hoping that people will still come
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Speaker 7: to the town. It's a big boost for our community.
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Speaker 7: We've got one of the best rivers on the whole
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Speaker 7: Murray River system. People come and camp and fish and ski,
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Speaker 7: and honestly, I really do hope they come.
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Speaker 8: The town needs it, so I encourage people.
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Speaker 7: Look, I know the cost of fuel is expensive, but
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Speaker 7: you know, even if it's just for your own mental health,
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Speaker 7: get out, live, breathe the fresh air, and come to
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Speaker 7: a good community.
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Speaker 1: You and I both lived through COVID in Victoria's longest
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Speaker 1: lockdown state in the world. I've written a column and
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Speaker 1: I've said on the program that it feels a little
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Speaker 1: bit to me, Nathan. I don't know if I'm exaggerating here.
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Speaker 1: I'm just triggered. It feels like the start of COVID
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Speaker 1: six years ago.
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Speaker 8: Scary, mate, it does.
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Speaker 7: All the signs are there, and unfortunately we've lived through
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Speaker 7: it before.
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Speaker 8: And that was stressful enough the way it was to
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Speaker 8: revisit that again.
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Speaker 7: Honestly, Steve, I can't see rural communities, you know, surviving
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Speaker 7: through this.
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Speaker 8: If it gets that bad again.
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Speaker 1: What frustrates you most about what you've been hearing from governments,
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Speaker 1: whether they be Canberra or Melbourne.
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Speaker 8: How long are we on tonight for Steve?
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Speaker 1: Because I can.
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Speaker 8: I can start from the top and go all the
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Speaker 8: way through.
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Speaker 7: They've lied right from the beginning. They're telling us that
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Speaker 7: it's panic buying. And like I said in my early interviews,
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Speaker 7: there was.
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Speaker 8: No panic buying in Robenbalt.
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Speaker 7: Businesses were going about their normal daily life. There was
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Speaker 7: no panic buying. To put into perspective, Steve, some of
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Speaker 7: these farmers have got twenty thousand Leader diesel tanks.
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Speaker 8: Okay, right now, they've got around.
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Speaker 7: Ten thousand Leaders of diesel in there because they can't
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Speaker 7: get their full supply. Okay, So the farmers aren't the
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Speaker 7: ones that are panic buying. And the government are standing
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Speaker 7: there talking to us like we're idiots, saying, oh, there's
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Speaker 7: a supply issue because people are panic buying.
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Speaker 8: What Chris Stephen Nathan in the city are filling up a.
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Speaker 7: Twenty leader Jerry cankay, a twenty thousand liter tank on
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Speaker 7: these farmers farms is the equivalent to one thousand Jerry cans.
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Speaker 7: And they want us to believe that it's the people
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Speaker 7: in the city filling up a couple of twenty letter
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Speaker 7: jerry cans.
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Speaker 8: How many jerry cans in Australia.
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Speaker 7: See if you filled up every jerry Can in Australia,
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Speaker 7: come on, it still should not have an impact.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy stuff, Nathan, you speak so much truth. Good
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Speaker 1: luck to your community, your little community. I had a
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Speaker 1: relative of mind who worked up there as a teacher
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Speaker 1: in the school, so I know he loves that community.
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Speaker 1: And I know you're a very fine group of people.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Nathan. Good luck with it. We'll catch you
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Speaker 1: my time. Catch up next week to saut Or goes
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Speaker 1: Nathan Falbo. They're just talking common sense. That's what we
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Speaker 1: need now for a closer look at just what the
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Speaker 1: prices that the bowser have risen to and whether we
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Speaker 1: need to actually get rationing to get through this. Motoring
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Speaker 1: expert Puul Gover joined us. Great to see you again, mate.
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Speaker 1: I mean, can I start with petrol temptation And now
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Speaker 1: that might sound like a strange thing to say, but
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Speaker 1: let me explain petrol not diesel. You have E ten
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Speaker 1: ninety one, ninety five and ninety eight Ron now Here
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Speaker 1: was the NRMA spokesman today on Sky talking about E ten.
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Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
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Speaker 9: It's really important that austraels considering using E ten as
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Speaker 9: an alternative, especially to regular unletted. If you can't can
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Speaker 9: take in ten, please consider using it. It's safe for
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Speaker 9: the engine, and it is an undersold fuel. People aren't
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Speaker 9: buying as much of it as we potentially could at
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Speaker 9: the pump because there is a misconception that will hurt
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Speaker 9: your engine.
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Speaker 1: It will not, Paul, you need to be careful about
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Speaker 1: E ten, don't you.
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Speaker 10: Yes and no if you own an older car, Yes,
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Speaker 10: because the ethanol can be corrosive in older vehicles, but
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Speaker 10: in new vehicles, and I'm talking stuff. Everything from the
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Speaker 10: last ten years is fine with E ten, not just
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Speaker 10: that the octane number that ron thing you're talking about,
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Speaker 10: it is equivalent to ninety four ninety five. So actually
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Speaker 10: there are more people than you might think who can
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Speaker 10: use it in place of what you call regular ninety
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Speaker 10: one one letter. So he's right, it's an underutilized fuel.
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Speaker 10: It's very simple. You just open the fuel cap on
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Speaker 10: your car and it will say if you can use
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Speaker 10: E ten.
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Speaker 4: If it's as you can, then it's not a bad idea.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you where the cutoff
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Speaker 1: point is. I mean, do you go back ten years,
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Speaker 1: fifteen years? I mean I got told when I bought
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Speaker 1: a motor scooter that I couldn't use E ten in that.
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Speaker 1: So I guess you've just got to do a bit
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Speaker 1: of research. I mean, get on Google and try and
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Speaker 1: find out.
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's not that hard to find out.
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Speaker 10: I mean my scooter, I don't run E ten in it,
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Speaker 10: and the lawnmower it doesn't run on E ten either.
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Speaker 10: But most modern cars are quite compatible with E ten fuel.
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Speaker 10: And as I say, it's because they changed the hardware
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Speaker 10: in the fuel systems, and in some cars it's like
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Speaker 10: fifteen years ago.
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Speaker 4: Most cars it's about ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: If like me, you use ninety eight in two European cars,
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Speaker 1: can I drop back quite safely to ninety five.
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Speaker 10: I wouldn't do it all the time, but I a
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Speaker 10: one third cocktail, two thirds ninety eight one third. In fact,
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Speaker 10: the E ten at ninety five is probably not a bad.
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Speaker 4: Option for you. But you shouldn't do it all the time.
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Speaker 10: But in the current situation, one you know, one tank
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Speaker 10: full in three it shouldn't be too much of a
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Speaker 10: drama because you end up with a cocktail, and you're
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Speaker 10: getting premient protection from the ninety eight that's in the system.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk diesel. I saw it. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: it is on the Gold Coast, but I saw it
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Speaker 1: on the morning to Peninsula today at over two dollars
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Speaker 1: fifty hitting nearing two sixty. Do we need do you think,
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Speaker 1: in your view, start the reserving diesel for things like
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Speaker 1: agriculture and transport.
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Speaker 10: I think I don't think reserving it's the right word.
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Speaker 10: I think what we're seeing with all of this, I
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Speaker 10: mean it's a can of worms. Every time I pick
17:59
Speaker 10: up up there's another drama.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 10: The number of people doing driveaways, fill the carr up
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Speaker 10: and then drive away is up by a huge percentage
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Speaker 10: just in the last fortnight.
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Speaker 4: The thing about diesel is.
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Speaker 10: It's yes, what we found out of this, and mister Bowen,
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Speaker 10: our glorious minister, doesn't seem to have realized that with
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Speaker 10: all of our green the country runs on diesel.
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Speaker 4: The country runs on diesel.
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Speaker 10: I have yet to see a combine harvester that can
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Speaker 10: run electric, or a truck for that matter. So the
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Speaker 10: fact of the matter is what this is also bringing
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Speaker 10: home is the fact that the you know, it's like
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Speaker 10: the you know, the Australia used to ride on the
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Speaker 10: sheep's back. Well, now we run on diesel engines, so
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Speaker 10: much of the stuff is diesel. I think what needs
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Speaker 10: to be happening is that the government, and I'm talking
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Speaker 10: about the federal government, not the state government, needs to
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Speaker 10: be talking to the oil companies about making sure that
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Speaker 10: people are able to get diesel fuel.
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Speaker 4: I have a guy who's a great made of.
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Speaker 10: Mine, Peter, and he runs a few flut of trucks,
18:59
Speaker 10: but he also has a subsidiary business. He's between a
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Speaker 10: distributor and a wholesaler with fuel because so many of
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Speaker 10: the people he's dealing with higher stuff from him, and
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Speaker 10: he's struggling to get diesel fuel. So the fact of
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Speaker 10: the matter is there is constrained reply a supply of
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Speaker 10: diesel at the distributor level. Now the federal government needs
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Speaker 10: to go and talk to these people. But the problem
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Speaker 10: that we have now is also gee gollie, what gosh.
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Speaker 10: Everybody in the city wants to drive a pickup truck.
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Speaker 10: And if you're using a pickup truck anytime you want
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Speaker 10: to toe, whether that's a tradeinge towing somebody you put
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Speaker 10: a lot of back, they go.
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Speaker 4: For the diesel engine.
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Speaker 10: So in the old days, when you and I were younger, Steve,
19:42
Speaker 10: almost nobody had a diesel.
19:43
Speaker 4: In the city.
19:44
Speaker 10: But lots and lots of people have diesels in the
19:46
Speaker 10: city these days in pickup trucks. So it's a balancing
19:50
Speaker 10: act where the diesel should go. But I think what
19:54
Speaker 10: this has highlighted me all the way through is that
19:57
Speaker 10: our fuel strategy for Australia is rubbish and has been
20:01
Speaker 10: for quite some time. And what's happened is somebody's pulled
20:03
Speaker 10: the trousers down and gone, you're not wearing any clothes,
20:06
Speaker 10: mister the King's new clothes.
20:11
Speaker 4: Yeah.
20:11
Speaker 1: Look, I mean there's lots of diesels at school pickup
20:13
Speaker 1: too when you look at you know, Discovery toyotas and
20:17
Speaker 1: discoveries and land land cruises and land rovers and range rovers.
20:21
Speaker 1: I mentioned Ron Ronnie Finnimore. He's got a fleet of
20:24
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty semis runs the mainly between Melbourne
20:28
Speaker 1: and Sydney. He says that runs now costing his company
20:32
Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars more than it did before the first
20:35
Speaker 1: of March, just to run up and back.
20:39
Speaker 8: Yep.
20:39
Speaker 4: And that's the same for you know, that's the same.
20:41
Speaker 10: For every trucking company. I know the Animal Company really well.
20:45
Speaker 10: They've based had a wager. I used to deal with
20:47
Speaker 10: them in one of my previous jobs. They're not on
20:50
Speaker 10: their own. It's every trucking company. And what we need
20:54
Speaker 10: to realize with all this is our rail infrastructure is
20:58
Speaker 10: so rubbish. For most of the stuff that ends up
21:01
Speaker 10: in supermarkets and shops and things comes off the back
21:05
Speaker 10: of a diesel truck. And you know, I don't know
21:09
Speaker 10: where the planning people were with all of this. I
21:11
Speaker 10: think at some stags just to make a really good
21:13
Speaker 10: episode of Utopia.
21:15
Speaker 4: And for me, it goes back to know.
21:17
Speaker 10: Yes, minister, you know, minister Bone, We've got good news
21:21
Speaker 10: and bad news. What's the bad news? The bad news
21:23
Speaker 10: is there's a fuel shortage. Oh, what's the good news?
21:26
Speaker 10: More people are going to buy electric cars. You're going
21:30
Speaker 10: to tell me to go and buy an ev now, No,
21:34
Speaker 10: absolutely not. But I can tell you I've been talking
21:38
Speaker 10: to some of the car dealers and sales of EVSA
21:40
Speaker 10: through the roof. But again it's the same as the
21:43
Speaker 10: toilet paper people. Oh the fuel price is up. I'm
21:46
Speaker 10: going to go and buy an electric car, all right?
21:48
Speaker 10: Have you budgeted for the fact that it's going to
21:49
Speaker 10: cost you fifty thousand dollars to switch across to an
21:53
Speaker 10: electric car in the short term.
21:54
Speaker 4: Have you thought about the economics? Oh no, I'm just
21:57
Speaker 4: worried about the price of fuel.
22:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. I heard some secondhand car dealer this week talking
22:04
Speaker 1: on radio about electric vehicles and buying them electric vehicle
22:08
Speaker 1: that had done fifty sixty thousand k claiming that the
22:13
Speaker 1: battery in that electric car is still showing up to
22:16
Speaker 1: eighty five to ninety percent charge, that it hasn't diminished
22:19
Speaker 1: as much as what we thought it would. Is that true?
22:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true.
22:25
Speaker 10: The research is, and there's quite good research now coming
22:28
Speaker 10: out of America on this, between eighty and ninety percent
22:30
Speaker 10: at five years, which is way better than anybody thought.
22:33
Speaker 10: But the reason why is that, unlike your mobile phone,
22:36
Speaker 10: you're not fast charging it all the time. See, if
22:39
Speaker 10: you go to the one of these fast charges to
22:42
Speaker 10: top it up in twenty minutes or or an hour
22:44
Speaker 10: or something, yes, that can.
22:46
Speaker 4: Degrade the battery.
22:47
Speaker 10: But if you're trickle charging it overnight at home like
22:49
Speaker 10: a lot of people do in Australia. The battery damage
22:52
Speaker 10: is not nearly what they thought it was. But I
22:54
Speaker 10: can tell you also research every time I turn around,
22:57
Speaker 10: every ten minutes is another press release. But they're so
23:00
Speaker 10: saying that the demand for secondhand evs is up by
23:04
Speaker 10: thirty percent within two weeks, so there are a lot
23:06
Speaker 10: of people. There will still be people who jump, you know.
23:09
Speaker 4: Out of panic.
23:11
Speaker 10: What they're saying also is that you know, it's two
23:14
Speaker 10: hundred percent increase in the people considering an EV But
23:18
Speaker 10: the question I always ask is, well, they're considering it,
23:20
Speaker 10: but how many are actually buying one? Because again you
23:24
Speaker 10: have to come back to does it suit your needs
23:27
Speaker 10: and can you really afford it?
23:30
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Paula, It was good to catch up mate, Thank
23:32
Speaker 1: you very much. Paul go Over knows more about electric
23:35
Speaker 1: bickers just about everyone else in the country. Now, some
23:38
Speaker 1: people in the industry on the verge of crisis, and
23:40
Speaker 1: I'd say too many people in charge are hoping like
23:43
Speaker 1: hell for a miracle. That's what one of our trucking
23:45
Speaker 1: men actually said, and he's absolutely right. We'll be back
23:49
Speaker 1: after the break. Welcome back. Great to be with you
23:58
Speaker 1: on this Friday night, just before we go to our
24:00
Speaker 1: next guest, I wanted to remind you of what's happening
24:03
Speaker 1: in Western Australia, particularly on the northwest up near the
24:06
Speaker 1: Pilborough coast. You've got cyclone NoREL now that's absolutely gathering pace.
24:12
Speaker 1: Now this is a personal interest for me. A shout
24:14
Speaker 1: out to my sister Sue, who runs a small business
24:17
Speaker 1: in Geraldton which is supposed to get hit by that
24:20
Speaker 1: cyclone at some stage later tonight. It appears it won't
24:23
Speaker 1: be as bad as they first thought. She's had to
24:25
Speaker 1: Sandbager's shop already. Now. The bureau's latest update has confirmed
24:29
Speaker 1: severe tripal cyclone NoREL has crossed the coast south of
24:33
Speaker 1: Coral Bay, beautiful place that's just south of Exmouth, where
24:37
Speaker 1: there has been reports of some damage. The system is
24:40
Speaker 1: weakened a bit, but residents are still being urged to
24:42
Speaker 1: take precautions and stay safe. We'll continue to keep you updated.
24:47
Speaker 1: Now let's get straight into things with our Friday Night regular,
24:50
Speaker 1: former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Great to see you. Just
24:53
Speaker 1: before we get to fuel and backroom politics. It now
24:56
Speaker 1: seems in SA that after the election last weekend, cam
25:00
Speaker 1: Well the Limbs could end up it seems with four
25:02
Speaker 1: seats and one nation three, but it could perhaps end
25:07
Speaker 1: up for each And I saw Corey Bernardi on with
25:10
Speaker 1: Kayla Bond and he says that because they had a
25:14
Speaker 1: higher primary vote in South Australia, they could become the
25:18
Speaker 1: official opposition. That would be quite extraordinary, wouldn't it.
25:23
Speaker 11: Well, I would indeed steve in terms of the history
25:26
Speaker 11: over the last few years. But this is happening and
25:30
Speaker 11: it's not going to go away anytime soon. In fact,
25:34
Speaker 11: I think it's going to see an increase in momentum with.
25:38
Speaker 1: The result in South Australia.
25:40
Speaker 11: And I've been fascinated by some of the commentaries since
25:43
Speaker 11: the weekend, you know, the gnashing of the teeth and
25:47
Speaker 11: the whaling and people saying, well, this just consigns the
25:53
Speaker 11: right to being in opposition and the Labor Party winning
25:55
Speaker 11: all the time. Well, it doesn't have to be that way,
25:58
Speaker 11: but clearly people have got sought out pre selection I'm sorry,
26:02
Speaker 11: I should say, sort of allocation of preference difference and
26:07
Speaker 11: the like. And there's got to be, yeah, there's got
26:10
Speaker 11: to be a sort of coming together in a way
26:13
Speaker 11: to actually work hard against the real enemy, which is
26:15
Speaker 11: the Labor Party. And the Greens. And you know, look,
26:20
Speaker 11: I'll just simply say One Nation aren't going away as
26:23
Speaker 11: they are. There's been a massive upheaval where people have
26:27
Speaker 11: deserted the Liberal and the National parties because they've been
26:30
Speaker 11: so unhappy about the Liberal Party's sort of labor like
26:35
Speaker 11: approach to things over the last probably five or six
26:38
Speaker 11: years nationally an indeed, in a state wide basis, I mean,
26:42
Speaker 11: the Marshall government. My god, I'd prefer this labor state government,
26:47
Speaker 11: the Marshal Liberal government that they had a few years ago.
26:52
Speaker 1: You're me both. And look, the interesting thing is this
26:56
Speaker 1: is going There's going to be two more tests. There's
26:58
Speaker 1: a state bi election Victoria next month, that's on May two,
27:02
Speaker 1: and then you've got the Farah by election, which obviously
27:05
Speaker 1: tests the national mood toward one Nation. I mean, I
27:09
Speaker 1: know that the candidate in the seat in Victoria where
27:13
Speaker 1: the by election is going to be held in a pan.
27:16
Speaker 1: He's a very strong candidate, local bloke, he's a businessman,
27:19
Speaker 1: he's employed people, speaks well. He emo very well snatched
27:23
Speaker 1: that seat from the Liberals there and then that'll again,
27:27
Speaker 1: as you say, give it more momentum, and if they
27:29
Speaker 1: win Farah well, look out, absolutely well.
27:34
Speaker 11: The One Nation candidate in Farah is a very well
27:40
Speaker 11: respected agri businessman and I think it's really going to
27:45
Speaker 11: be coming down to a competition between him and the Independent,
27:49
Speaker 11: who also has had a pretty strong level of support.
27:53
Speaker 8: But this is just happening.
27:55
Speaker 11: And I'll say again I've said quite a few times
27:57
Speaker 11: on the show in recent weeks, but if this continues
28:00
Speaker 11: and the polling in Queensland is showing a similar thing
28:03
Speaker 11: despite the career ma I'll try to say that somehow
28:06
Speaker 11: Chris of Foley's seeing off the threat of One Nation,
28:09
Speaker 11: Well that's not true. You know, One Nation's primary in
28:13
Speaker 11: queensland's twenty four percent and in the regions it's got
28:17
Speaker 11: to be I reckon in regional seats has got a
28:19
Speaker 11: four in front of it, which means, you know, the
28:23
Speaker 11: LNP if there was a state election, you know right
28:25
Speaker 11: now they would lose some regional seats. And so, going
28:29
Speaker 11: back to what I was saying a few minutes ago,
28:31
Speaker 11: there's the need to work cooperatively. The real enemy is
28:35
Speaker 11: the Labor Party and the Greens. If the LNP want
28:40
Speaker 11: to reclaim ground for One Nation, they need to have
28:43
Speaker 11: to stand up and outcompete them by being better, by
28:47
Speaker 11: showing people that they're worthy of support, not attacking one nation.
28:51
Speaker 11: That's a recipe for the bad trend for them to continue.
28:58
Speaker 1: Let's talk fuel, I mean, and Anthony Albanezi, I mean,
29:02
Speaker 1: they seem to be stumbling around shocked by the fact
29:05
Speaker 1: that we've got a fuel crisis. I mean it would
29:07
Speaker 1: appear no one has war gamed in Canberra, something like
29:10
Speaker 1: this happening. I mean, we only got thirty day odd
29:13
Speaker 1: days of fuel. I saw Stash Butler, the Sky correspondent
29:17
Speaker 1: in Taiwan. Campbell's saying that in Taiwan, obvious, for obvious reasons,
29:22
Speaker 1: they've got one hundred days of fuel stored away. ALBINIZI
29:27
Speaker 1: government's been really caught on the hop with this whole thing.
29:29
Speaker 1: They're not handling it well, are they. Well they're not.
29:34
Speaker 11: Jim Molon, the late Jim Molan, who was a regular
29:37
Speaker 11: on Sky, he warned us all about this. My own
29:42
Speaker 11: late father was an energy minister in the nineteen seventies,
29:46
Speaker 11: a few years after the oil shocks of around seventy
29:49
Speaker 11: three seventy seventy four, and I remember as a teenager
29:53
Speaker 11: dad being involved in policies for national fuel security and
29:58
Speaker 11: the idea of having thirty day stocks back then would
30:01
Speaker 11: have been seen has been absolutely ludicrous with what the
30:03
Speaker 11: nation had been through a few years before. So we
30:06
Speaker 11: have been caught with our pants down. We've been let
30:09
Speaker 11: down by our bureaucracies, We've been let down by politicians,
30:12
Speaker 11: and also they have been slow to react. I mean
30:15
Speaker 11: when this war started, I'm not making up I walked
30:18
Speaker 11: into my office and talked to our young staff as
30:21
Speaker 11: I said, hey, guys, just a hint, hit your tanks
30:25
Speaker 11: in your car topped up might be a good idea.
30:27
Speaker 11: So back several weeks ago is when clear, decisive action
30:32
Speaker 11: was taken to prepare for this. Because you know, any
30:36
Speaker 11: idea that wars are over quickly, well that's that's ludicrous.
30:41
Speaker 11: It was always going to take a period of time.
30:43
Speaker 11: I hope they do secure the safety of shipping in
30:45
Speaker 11: the Goal, in the in the Gulf and the Straits
30:48
Speaker 11: as soon as possible, of course, but it will take
30:51
Speaker 11: some time for things to sort out even if they do.
30:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a feeling for me of COVID all
30:57
Speaker 1: over again, which I hope I'm completely wrong about that. Campbell.
31:00
Speaker 1: It's always good to catch up with you on a
31:02
Speaker 1: Friday night. We'll talk to you next week that we
31:05
Speaker 1: do really need to have a debate in this country about,
31:08
Speaker 1: you know, having some sort of a fuel reservation that
31:11
Speaker 1: really means something. Now, after the break, we'll get the
31:14
Speaker 1: latest on mounting pressure on Sirkiir Starmer to back Donald
31:18
Speaker 1: Trump on the war. Plus a former m I six
31:21
Speaker 1: intelligence chief says it's Iran, not the US, which has
31:25
Speaker 1: the upper hand. I'll be back after this. Welcome back
31:33
Speaker 1: to Price with you on this Friday night. I'll talk
31:35
Speaker 1: to my panel shortly about Donald Trump's taking another swipe
31:38
Speaker 1: at Australia over our lack of interest in helping out
31:42
Speaker 1: in the conflict with Iran. We'll find out what Joe
31:44
Speaker 1: Hildebrand makes of that. Let's get our latest now though,
31:47
Speaker 1: speaking of that war, the growing pressure on the US
31:50
Speaker 1: and the UK relations as the war continues. Sky News
31:53
Speaker 1: regular Adrian Haynes joins US tonight. He's always on the
31:56
Speaker 1: movies in Hong Kong as we speak, I mean Adrian
31:59
Speaker 1: Don Trump has dismissed British warships as quote toys in
32:05
Speaker 1: his latest gibet NATO countries for their lack of involvement
32:08
Speaker 1: He's not wrong.
32:09
Speaker 12: Is he.
32:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
32:11
Speaker 13: I think it's quite clear syve that President Trump doesn't
32:13
Speaker 13: think too highly of Prime Minister Starmer. I think that's
32:16
Speaker 13: an under statement. But and you know he sees them
32:19
Speaker 13: as weak and indecisive, and of course with a character
32:22
Speaker 13: like the US President, that's gonna he'll pick on this.
32:25
Speaker 13: As to the warships, I mean, look, you know the
32:28
Speaker 13: Royal Navy will take this as a bit of a
32:29
Speaker 13: slight but he has got a point and our military
32:33
Speaker 13: all round has been decimated by lack of investment, lack
32:36
Speaker 13: of funding, and our aircraft carries, which he was referring
32:38
Speaker 13: to as toys. I mean, they don't have the assault support,
32:41
Speaker 13: the support craft that destroys all the supporting ships around
32:45
Speaker 13: them to create an effective force on its own.
32:50
Speaker 1: So that worries me because as an Australian sitting over
32:53
Speaker 1: here on the other side of the world, I mean,
32:55
Speaker 1: and someone who's you know, been around a long time,
32:59
Speaker 1: I always think of the British Navy and the elite
33:03
Speaker 1: forces of the British military, your Air Force, the Royal
33:07
Speaker 1: Air Force as being you know, state of the art.
33:10
Speaker 1: That's what I've grown up with. If there were if
33:13
Speaker 1: you're ever going to need a friend, and it wasn't
33:14
Speaker 1: the US. Australia could rely on the UK. You're telling
33:18
Speaker 1: me that, like our country, lack of investment in the
33:21
Speaker 1: military has caught up with them.
33:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:24
Speaker 13: Look, I was in the British armies, you know, and
33:27
Speaker 13: you know our armies that smaller size, like I actually
33:29
Speaker 13: can't remember since when, but we have had this lack
33:31
Speaker 13: of funding. But there's a whole wave right now because
33:34
Speaker 13: of this war. He was saying, We've got to spend
33:36
Speaker 13: more on defense. We've got to spend more defense. You
33:38
Speaker 13: can't spend more on defense when you've got a public
33:41
Speaker 13: spending that is absolutely out of control. We are our
33:46
Speaker 13: dead is two point eight trillion pounds. Our annual interest
33:49
Speaker 13: payments on our debt is one hundred and twelve billion
33:53
Speaker 13: pounds alone. You've got to cull public spending before you
33:56
Speaker 13: can start spending more money on defense. This has been
33:59
Speaker 13: a wake up. It's going to take many years to
34:02
Speaker 13: get this sort of you know. And you can't cull
34:04
Speaker 13: the sizes. You can't cut public spending unless you cull
34:07
Speaker 13: the size of the state. It all comes back to
34:09
Speaker 13: this whole bigger picture.
34:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the same problem. And I know you're
34:14
Speaker 1: in Asia tonight, but what's the public mood in the
34:17
Speaker 1: UK around the potential of Britain getting more involved in
34:22
Speaker 1: what's going on in the Straits of Hormuz and in
34:26
Speaker 1: general on the attack on Iran.
34:28
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is an interesting one because so many issues
34:30
Speaker 13: on our world today's tee we have this black and
34:32
Speaker 13: white you know you're for it or you're against that.
34:34
Speaker 13: I think a lot of people are unsure. So the
34:39
Speaker 13: Starmer promise to Starm's have fallen into this space.
34:42
Speaker 8: I know it's by conviction.
34:43
Speaker 13: He's just sort of got to this space where the
34:45
Speaker 13: public do not want to be involved in this war. Now,
34:48
Speaker 13: you would have had a far bigger percentage were in
34:51
Speaker 13: favor early on. But the longer this goes on, and
34:53
Speaker 13: you know, we're finding three wars. Now we're finding the
34:56
Speaker 13: decimation of the Ranian regime. We've got now this new
35:00
Speaker 13: batful front the streets of Ormers. I know, you've got
35:02
Speaker 13: this PR war and I've never seen a PR war
35:05
Speaker 13: like it. Because the Trump administration is trying to reassure
35:08
Speaker 13: the markets are saying it's all winning, I don't think
35:10
Speaker 13: anyone quite is quite sure how this war is going,
35:13
Speaker 13: but public support.
35:14
Speaker 8: Is waning for this war.
35:15
Speaker 13: And we all knew looked, you know, Aram deserved the
35:18
Speaker 13: bloody nose. A terrible regime, but there are impacts and
35:21
Speaker 13: trade offs, and I don't think it was entirely foresaw
35:25
Speaker 13: by the Trump administration what would happen.
35:29
Speaker 1: Al was great to catch up my friend, I took
35:30
Speaker 1: to you in a couple of weeks. Look after yourself
35:32
Speaker 1: there in Hong Kong. Now I want to go back
35:34
Speaker 1: to fuel. I want to take a closer look now
35:36
Speaker 1: at the pressure of the fuel crisis is having on
35:38
Speaker 1: everyday Australians now. Emily Power is a Melbourne based journalist
35:43
Speaker 1: and broadcaster who with her partner James, they packed up
35:46
Speaker 1: their lives earlier this year and they've done and started
35:49
Speaker 1: the sort of thing that we all dream of doing,
35:51
Speaker 1: certain navigating Australia. They're in a truck converted into a
35:55
Speaker 1: camper that they can live in. The pair are driving
35:58
Speaker 1: a diesel based vas Or truck. They're now among the
36:02
Speaker 1: thousands of holidaymakers right round Australia who've had to reassess plans.
36:06
Speaker 1: Can we actually still get fuel? As the crisis deepens.
36:09
Speaker 1: Emily joins US now she's on one of my old
36:11
Speaker 1: stomping grounds of beautiful York Peninsula in South Australia. Emily,
36:15
Speaker 1: great to see you. I'm very jealous of what you
36:17
Speaker 1: and James are doing, but you're now caught in a
36:20
Speaker 1: bit of a problem.
36:22
Speaker 14: Yeah, you wouldn't be jealous, Steve if you saw what's
36:24
Speaker 14: happened to our budget since the conflict has erupted. What's
36:29
Speaker 14: been a dream that we've budgeted and planned for for
36:31
Speaker 14: years has of course had a slight spanner in the works,
36:34
Speaker 14: and like a lot of Australians, we're managing that budget
36:38
Speaker 14: and working out what comes next for us.
36:41
Speaker 1: You've converted that truck or purchased that truck and turned
36:44
Speaker 1: it into a mobile home. I mean it's a large
36:47
Speaker 1: piece of machinery. Tell me, Emily, and I promise not
36:50
Speaker 1: to fall off my chair. How much does it cost
36:52
Speaker 1: to fill that up today with diesel.
36:56
Speaker 14: Seven hundred and twenty dollars Steve Hey, Yeah, to fill
37:02
Speaker 14: it up to the brim it gets us about twelve
37:04
Speaker 14: hundred kilometers and you can see there it's an Isuzu
37:06
Speaker 14: NPS and it's got a motor home camp on the
37:09
Speaker 14: back sitting on the chassis. It's a big rig and
37:13
Speaker 14: it takes a lot of diesel, and we had, look,
37:17
Speaker 14: we budgeted for a lot of fuel. When you embark
37:19
Speaker 14: on a journey like this, you expect that sort of
37:21
Speaker 14: thing to be expensive. But before the conflict, that same
37:24
Speaker 14: tank of petrol would have been about four hundred and
37:26
Speaker 14: twenty dollars. So we've worked out on average about one
37:30
Speaker 14: hundred and forty four dollars a week more for fuel
37:33
Speaker 14: as it stands now, and that was a calculation based
37:36
Speaker 14: on it being about three dollars, which is what we
37:39
Speaker 14: filled up for about three days ago.
37:42
Speaker 1: Emily costs you one thing that I guess. Now you're
37:44
Speaker 1: sitting around as you sit on a beautiful beach on
37:47
Speaker 1: your peninsula, you know, having some oysters and a steak
37:50
Speaker 1: on the barbecue, you're saying, well, what happens when we
37:54
Speaker 1: can't get any diesel?
37:56
Speaker 14: I wish there was oysters, and I wish James was
37:59
Speaker 14: better fishermen. We need to start catching out and fish
38:01
Speaker 14: liking the Caveman times when it was when it was cheap.
38:05
Speaker 14: Now look it's look it's at the moment we're just
38:09
Speaker 14: traveling slowly. So in the last couple of days We've
38:12
Speaker 14: probably really only driven eight kilometers and there would be
38:15
Speaker 14: plenty of Australians who would drive much further to school
38:18
Speaker 14: and to work each day and running their families around.
38:21
Speaker 14: Because of this lifestyle, and we do this permanently, we're
38:24
Speaker 14: living and working on the road for the long term.
38:27
Speaker 14: We can slow down and take our foot off the
38:30
Speaker 14: pedal and be really conservative with our fuel. And you
38:33
Speaker 14: can see that's James and I there at one of
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Speaker 14: the camping spots in South Australia. We're probably really lucky
38:38
Speaker 14: also that we're in Essay. It's much cheaper than the
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Speaker 14: East Coast to camp here. It's about twenty five dollars
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Speaker 14: a night for a campground and there's lots of free
38:46
Speaker 14: camping as well on beaches like you can see there
38:48
Speaker 14: where you can stay on Crown Land, so it's a
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Speaker 14: much more manageable place to be.
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Speaker 8: Stuck or stranded.
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Speaker 14: But if this goes on, we will have to look
38:57
Speaker 14: at cutting some of our itinery back, which means maybe
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Speaker 14: not going to Lake Air and the Flinders Rangers next month,
39:04
Speaker 14: which is a bucket list item for us, and we
39:07
Speaker 14: may have to delay that and hang around Adelaide and
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Speaker 14: see if fuel prices are fluctuated, all in our favor, as.
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Speaker 1: We're supposed to hang around the nadelaide I might point out,
39:17
Speaker 1: but I'm biased. Lake Air, of course, is full of water.
39:20
Speaker 1: That would have been one of the reasons why you
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Speaker 1: want to go and have a look.
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Speaker 14: It is, and if we don't do it now, it
39:25
Speaker 14: will miss our chance. It's a once in a generation
39:28
Speaker 14: opportunity to see it abundant and flourishing.
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Speaker 8: And so that's one of the.
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Speaker 14: Conversations we've had is what's our threshold, our pain threshold.
39:36
Speaker 14: Our pain threshold Steve is five dollars a liter. If
39:38
Speaker 14: it gets up to that, we'll probably not go to
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Speaker 14: the Flinders Rangers. If it stays below that or a chance,
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Speaker 14: And the other reason why we will reconsider it is
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Speaker 14: we don't want to go into the outback if there's
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Speaker 14: fuel rationing as well, or a chance of it where
39:54
Speaker 14: farmers and locals will need that fuel where it were
39:57
Speaker 14: city folk. But we spend nineteen nine percent of our
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Speaker 14: lives these days living in very small regional areas and
40:04
Speaker 14: we wouldn't want our presence to be a negative.
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Speaker 8: We want it to be a positive.
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Speaker 14: Buying up at the pubs and the taverns and participating
40:12
Speaker 14: in the local economy. We would hate to be taking
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Speaker 14: away from that, so we've got a factor that into
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Speaker 14: our decision too.
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Speaker 1: I feel for your costs, but I don't feel at
40:22
Speaker 1: all sorry for you, because I know how great it
40:25
Speaker 1: would be be out there. We're all very jealous. Keep going, Emily.
40:29
Speaker 1: Good on you and good luck with the rest of
40:31
Speaker 1: the trip. Emily, power there when you love to be
40:33
Speaker 1: doing that, just on the road without an end date. Now,
40:36
Speaker 1: after the break, we'll find out what Anthony Albaneze he
40:38
Speaker 1: has had to say after Donald Trump, Well, he's taken
40:40
Speaker 1: another swipe in Australia for not helping out in the
40:43
Speaker 1: war against Iran. Plus transgender athletes have been banned from
40:48
Speaker 1: all female Olympic events under new rules handed down today
40:52
Speaker 1: by Olympic chiefs. Welcome back Roundine coming up at the
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Speaker 1: the ar don't forget to cause Chris Hulman's special on
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Speaker 1: Sky Sunday Night on our fuel stocks. He's done a
41:06
Speaker 1: great job on it. It's a lot of what we've
41:08
Speaker 1: been talking about today. President Donald Trump, as I said,
41:11
Speaker 1: is taking another swipe at Australia for it's so called
41:15
Speaker 1: failing to help secure the straits of hormals or indeed
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Speaker 1: get involved in the conflict against Iran. Well, Anthony Albanez,
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Speaker 1: he says no requests have been made, which is not
41:24
Speaker 1: really the point. We are, or should I say, we
41:27
Speaker 1: were the most reliable of allies to the US. I mean,
41:30
Speaker 1: what Donald Trump is musing, I think, is how come
41:33
Speaker 1: we didn't actually offer to help. Let's check in with
41:35
Speaker 1: our panel tonight, Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand and head
41:38
Speaker 1: of advocacy at Women's from Australia, Stephanie Bastian. Nice to
41:42
Speaker 1: see you both. Stephanie's in Broken Hill tonight. We'll get
41:46
Speaker 1: her tip on how much diesel costs there in a second, Joe,
41:48
Speaker 1: can you imagine here's a question for you, John Howard
41:52
Speaker 1: or even we can go back to Bob Hawk probably
41:54
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison. Can you imagine they would not have jumped
41:57
Speaker 1: on the phone and said to the US President Mark, mate,
42:01
Speaker 1: can we help in any way against Iran? What can
42:04
Speaker 1: we give you?
42:05
Speaker 4: Yeah?
42:05
Speaker 12: Look, to be honest, I think the government has pretty
42:07
Speaker 12: much done that. I mean, we were the first, know
42:11
Speaker 12: that we.
42:12
Speaker 1: Were the first.
42:12
Speaker 12: We were the first to say we are all in
42:14
Speaker 12: with the US and we support the US and Israel's
42:17
Speaker 12: strikes on a road doing what other allies like the
42:21
Speaker 12: UK didn't even say they supported it. So the special
42:24
Speaker 12: relationship has completely dissolved when Australia there was a statement
42:29
Speaker 12: that other countries put out saying they supported, you know,
42:33
Speaker 12: sort of wishy washy sort of language, and Trump yelled
42:36
Speaker 12: at US for not signing that, and I don't think
42:38
Speaker 12: we were aware of that, and as soon as we were,
42:40
Speaker 12: we added our.
42:41
Speaker 1: Name to that.
42:42
Speaker 12: So I think it's just with like, I'm no Trump
42:44
Speaker 12: hater by any stretch of the imagination, but I think
42:46
Speaker 12: he is quite a mercurial character, to say the least,
42:50
Speaker 12: and he goes off and does things. He conducts a
42:53
Speaker 12: lot of his diplomacy via truth social and I think
42:56
Speaker 12: sometimes often the machinery of government and the back channels
43:00
Speaker 12: where Australia would normally talk to the US haven't actually
43:02
Speaker 12: caught up with what Trump saying publicly. So I think
43:06
Speaker 12: the relationship's.
43:07
Speaker 1: Good, Stephanie. After September eleven, John Howard was Prime Minister,
43:12
Speaker 1: George W. Bush decided we needed to go into Afghanistan.
43:15
Speaker 1: Some of the first people into Afghanistan or the Australian
43:18
Speaker 1: sas who went in there and were spotters for the
43:21
Speaker 1: American forces that ultimately went in. I mean, the relationship
43:24
Speaker 1: with the Americans, in my view Joe doesn't agree, is
43:27
Speaker 1: not as strong as it was back then.
43:31
Speaker 15: Well, I think a critical point here is whether or
43:34
Speaker 15: not Australia can afford to at the end of the day,
43:37
Speaker 15: Trump has whether.
43:38
Speaker 1: We've got any one to send, Well.
43:40
Speaker 15: That's kind of a problem. I mean, obviously there seems
43:43
Speaker 15: to be a bit of darting around by Albanezi at
43:46
Speaker 15: the moment, but the truth of the matter is our
43:48
Speaker 15: armed forces are depleted. He's done nothing to fix that.
43:52
Speaker 15: We've talked about it over the last two election cycles.
43:55
Speaker 15: And how are you going to recruit and build up
43:57
Speaker 15: an army base that can support any of our allies
43:59
Speaker 15: anywhere when our education system is teaching them to hate
44:02
Speaker 15: our country. We've got a big problem. But we're also
44:05
Speaker 15: facing an economic crisis here. We've got a few crisis now,
44:08
Speaker 15: and I think Australians would be outraged if we start
44:11
Speaker 15: pouring money into a foreign conflict while we're going down
44:14
Speaker 15: the Googler ourselves.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point, but I mean, if you're
44:18
Speaker 1: going to be an ally. You've got to be in
44:19
Speaker 1: an ally, and we would expect if there was something
44:22
Speaker 1: giving threatening Australia, like the Chinese, for example, we would
44:25
Speaker 1: expect the Americans to turn up on our doorstep and
44:29
Speaker 1: stop that from happening. Let's move on, Stephanie, what do
44:32
Speaker 1: you make of that extraordinary ruling overnight? Was not extraordinary
44:35
Speaker 1: over dew warning? I would make it that transgender women
44:39
Speaker 1: are now being banned from all female Olympic events, with
44:42
Speaker 1: Olympic chiefs actually announcing mandatory sex testing under these new rules.
44:47
Speaker 15: Look, I think it's a wonderful decision, long over due.
44:50
Speaker 15: The Isic was captured ideologically for a long time by
44:53
Speaker 15: gender ideology and it's taken the new president to a
44:57
Speaker 15: Kirsty Coventry to make this decision. Australian girls, quite often
45:02
Speaker 15: their dream of the elite sports starts at the community
45:04
Speaker 15: level and they are not protected in this country. In fact,
45:06
Speaker 15: Sky News reporter Caroline Marcus covered a story on this.
45:09
Speaker 15: The granddaughter of Gold Olympian Faith Leech, Emily missed out
45:13
Speaker 15: on competing in her regional finals at school because she
45:16
Speaker 15: lost a place to a transidentifying male student. She wants
45:20
Speaker 15: to compete for the Olympics one day. So here is
45:22
Speaker 15: a clear example of girls dreams being stopped in their tracks.
45:24
Speaker 15: It doesn't matter whether you're competing at a community or
45:27
Speaker 15: school level or an elite level on the national stage
45:30
Speaker 15: for Australia, every sporting body should be looking at the
45:33
Speaker 15: IFC's decision and reforming their policies to ensure that women
45:37
Speaker 15: and girls sex based sports are protected.
45:42
Speaker 1: Joe, I couldn't help taking a swipe at Sky regular
45:47
Speaker 1: the Lord Mayor of Melbourne one, Nicholas Reese, who had
45:52
Speaker 1: a few things to say about it over the journey.
45:56
Speaker 1: But Melbourne ratepayers it looks like they're now This is
45:58
Speaker 1: a Herald Sun's story broken in the week and I've
46:00
Speaker 1: written a column about it this weekend. Look to be
46:02
Speaker 1: on the hook for wait for it, half of a
46:05
Speaker 1: twenty two million dollar art project, which turns out to
46:10
Speaker 1: be an eight meter high kangaroo sculpture that I've called Skippy.
46:15
Speaker 1: The bronze statue of a soft toy style kangaroo wrapped
46:19
Speaker 1: in fairy lights on a chair was originally going to
46:22
Speaker 1: cost two million in twenty eighteen. That's inflation for you, Joe.
46:28
Speaker 12: Yeah, those price hikes are a killer this cost of living,
46:30
Speaker 12: no one is safe, even giant, giant twenty million kangaroo ruse. Look,
46:36
Speaker 12: I would count yourself lucky price he because I'm surprised
46:39
Speaker 12: that the artistic community isn't protesting against the kangaroo being
46:43
Speaker 12: a symbol of right wing nationalism. In Sydney, we had
46:48
Speaker 12: our Lord Mayor. I think there was a few million
46:51
Speaker 12: that was going to be spent on a giant milk crate,
46:54
Speaker 12: which would have been just outside in the park, just
46:56
Speaker 12: opposite sease.
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Speaker 1: People are insane, so.
46:59
Speaker 12: Hopeless people rough sleepers could look at where all the
47:02
Speaker 12: money that could have been giving them a place to
47:04
Speaker 12: stay for the night went to instead.
47:06
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think some count luch money. We laugh
47:10
Speaker 1: about it, but it is a dreadful waste of money. Stephanie,
47:13
Speaker 1: this thing's already finished. It's been sculpted by a Kiwi.
47:17
Speaker 1: Apparently we couldn't find a sculptor here who could make
47:19
Speaker 1: a giant bronze kangaroo. And it's sitting in a warehouse
47:24
Speaker 1: and it's not going to hop out of the warehouse
47:26
Speaker 1: until the end of twenty twenty seven.
47:30
Speaker 15: Look, the whole thing's ridiculous. But I think these councils
47:33
Speaker 15: are forgetting that we're in a cost living crisis. The
47:36
Speaker 15: golden run of just spending money and throwing all these
47:39
Speaker 15: projects is going to come to an end very soon
47:41
Speaker 15: because people are doing it tough out there. There's going
47:43
Speaker 15: to be a lot of outrage over the waste. People's
47:46
Speaker 15: rates are going up and for what for a statue
47:48
Speaker 15: that's stuck in a warehouse. It's absolutely appalling judgment here
47:51
Speaker 15: by this council.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing about it, Joe, is that the
47:55
Speaker 1: rate increases this year are going to be double. They
47:58
Speaker 1: didn't increase it's last year because they had a local
48:02
Speaker 1: government election, so they're going to double them up this year.
48:05
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is completely ridiculous. Nathan Nicholas
48:09
Speaker 1: Reese needs to get on a sky I think he
48:11
Speaker 1: still appears with Paul Murray and explain himself. Thank you
48:15
Speaker 1: both very much for joining us. I'm glad you agree
48:18
Speaker 1: about the kangaroo that's stuck in the warehouse. It's just
48:22
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. Just keep an eye folks. By the way,
48:25
Speaker 1: there's going to be a cabinet meeting, another national cabinet
48:28
Speaker 1: meeting that'll be held on Monday. I wouldn't be surprised
48:32
Speaker 1: if you see out of that cabinet meeting the Prime
48:35
Speaker 1: Minister announcing that what we're going to do is end
48:39
Speaker 1: up having some sort of restriction, some sort of petrol rationing.
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Speaker 1: Rundine's up next,