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  Speaker 1: Winter Insurance. Get at you, I'm a check both, Get
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  Speaker 1: at your fans, We the outtles, the.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm Adam Todd
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  Speaker 2: Brown joining me as co host today Olivia Hadar Back
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  Speaker 2: in the cut.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Hello, it's me back in the cut again.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the trap, Olivia. How's it going?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you know, things are great, I think in general
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  Speaker 1: all around. You know, we got arm loonies, uh, storm
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  Speaker 1: in the Capitol, we got we still have a dimic
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  Speaker 1: that their government doesn't do anything about. So I'd say
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  Speaker 1: ten out of ten so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a time to be alive. Here I sit
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  Speaker 2: hosting a conspiracy podcast and cheering for a militarized police
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  Speaker 2: force to put down the citizenry strange times. Also joining
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  Speaker 2: us special guest Sliceberg Slim who is my co host
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  Speaker 2: on Pod six, a podcast about the films of Spike Lee,
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  Speaker 2: and a music producer, Sliceberg.
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  Speaker 3: How's it going it's going on, Adam, pretty good. Just
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually curious where was all this five G technology?
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  Speaker 3: You promised that was one of the fuck up crowds.
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  Speaker 4: No one deployed it exactly wait for five lasers?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the problem is that. You know, the the
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  Speaker 1: DC cops they used up all their tear guests and
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  Speaker 1: their rubber bullets and riot control gear last summer, so
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  Speaker 1: they could they.
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  Speaker 4: Just ran out.
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  Speaker 1: They just didn't have any left for the for these
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  Speaker 1: people with storming the capitol.
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  Speaker 2: That is a good question, though, I do want to
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  Speaker 2: know where that active denial system is, Like, of all
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  Speaker 2: the places you could you could have launched it, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Just a b l Absolutely it's in the locker. That's
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  Speaker 1: why they couldn't get into it. There was you know,
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  Speaker 1: the key would only open if it's if it's for
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  Speaker 1: b l M, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Sliceberg. You're in Baltimore, which is like it's not d C,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not far from d C.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty much all the Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How's it? How's it feel to be in the in
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  Speaker 2: the heart of it? Like I feel like we're all
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  Speaker 2: going to be in the heart of it at some
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  Speaker 2: point very soon once this becomes a nationwide thing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: how what were your what were your thoughts being that
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  Speaker 2: close to it as it was unraveling.
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  Speaker 3: It's weird because Baltimore has a kind of almost a
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  Speaker 3: strain of relationship with DC as far as like I
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  Speaker 3: guess entertainment life or just kind of like a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people from Baltimore go to d C to party,
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  Speaker 3: but not the other way around. So it's like, it's
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  Speaker 3: not controversial, but even though we have the DMV, which
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  Speaker 3: is DC, Maryland Virginia, we're not as close as people
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  Speaker 3: think we are as far as like we may be
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  Speaker 3: close geographically, but we are so different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did a show in Baltimore a few years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and I stayed with my friend Nicole, who lives in DC,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, well, this is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a quick drive to and from the club. No, it
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  Speaker 2: was still like an hour.
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  Speaker 4: Which it's pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's geographically far enough for things to be very
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  Speaker 2: very different, and they did both seem like very different places.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy being close to it. Now that this has happened,
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  Speaker 3: I'm definitely not happy being close to DC. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if some shit goes down, maybe I'll get wiped out quick.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we can ever hope for any of us.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's that's everyone's dream apocalypse scenario, unless you're
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  Speaker 2: one of these maniacs. Yeah, unless you're one of these
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  Speaker 2: maniacs who fantasizes about toughing it out in a basement
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  Speaker 2: for four years, no, thank.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but couldn't stand being in their apartment for.
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  Speaker 2: A month, right, yeah without Yeah. You know, the thing
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about is important because we didn't really even
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  Speaker 2: have to say what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Likes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone knows we're obviously talking about a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: QAnon maniacs storming the Washington capital, the capital of the government.
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  Speaker 2: And what we're specifically talking about is I can't help
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  Speaker 2: but feel like, not just with QAnon and in recent years,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm starting to get the sense that white nationalists
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  Speaker 2: or I think it's more like anti government extremists, like
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  Speaker 2: right wing anti government types, have let themselves get kind
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  Speaker 2: of honey potted by the Internet, and I feel like
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  Speaker 2: QAnon is kind of the culmination of that. And I
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  Speaker 2: described it on the un Pops podcast that went up
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  Speaker 2: yesterday as kind of like the mass suicide moment for
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  Speaker 2: a death cult where they finally decide, all right, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna pull the trigger on that thing that is going
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  Speaker 2: to lead us to our salvation, and then you do
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  Speaker 2: it and oh no, the police are shooting us in
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  Speaker 2: the chest, not as many of us as they should.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we are being shot at and the government
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  Speaker 2: is not being overturned. What now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think it's important to draw a
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  Speaker 1: distinction early on between because I think that this is
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  Speaker 1: a kind of factionalism that kind of gets lost in
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  Speaker 1: the in the national discussion, where at like we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about anti government radical people like like the people who
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  Speaker 1: hate the federal government particularly not like whereas that is
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  Speaker 1: not I don't think a representative of the entirety of
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  Speaker 1: the far right or white nationalist movement, right, because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them, even if they profess small government goals
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, a lot of them are totally in favor
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  Speaker 1: of the government as long as it's doing what they
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  Speaker 1: want and hurting who they want, Whereas there is definitely
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  Speaker 1: also a strain of people who are just flat out
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  Speaker 1: totally anti federal government militia.
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  Speaker 2: Types, right. And I want to make it clear that
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  Speaker 2: I'm not given the government credit for anything here, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely not saying the American government is some kind
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  Speaker 2: of savior that is going to cure us of the
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  Speaker 2: ills of white nationalism and then stop at that. I
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  Speaker 2: think the government just wants to get rid of dissent
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  Speaker 2: on both sides.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, so they're having to be the first side to
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  Speaker 4: strike that they.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, I mean, do we have any
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  Speaker 2: doubt that if Black Lives Matter protesters did try to
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  Speaker 2: breach the Capitol that what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, like it would have been worse,
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  Speaker 1: It would have been insane. Like I know, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: like a cliche now at this point to talk about
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  Speaker 1: like if it were if it were Black Lives Matter
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  Speaker 1: doing this, like how the shoe would be on the
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  Speaker 1: other foot. But like, but for real, like we saw
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  Speaker 1: how they reacted to generally very peaceful protests that only
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  Speaker 1: resulted in small business damage and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like we saw they reacted to that if Black Lives
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  Speaker 1: Matter protesters tried to take the fucking Capitol building, they
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  Speaker 1: would have drone strike people, Like there would have been
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  Speaker 1: drones in the air for months, right.
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  Speaker 2: But I I think like what happened over the summer
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  Speaker 2: just emboldened the people who stormed the capital even more
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  Speaker 2: because they have somehow conflated a peaceful protest. Which here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. If you're one of these people on the
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  Speaker 2: right who's like Black Lives matter, They rioted and they
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  Speaker 2: damaged buildings.
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  Speaker 4: One.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said on the pod yesterday, also, if you
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  Speaker 2: equate an AutoZone being burned down with the capital being stormed,
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  Speaker 2: you're just dumb. Like it's not that you're it's not
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  Speaker 2: just that you're wrong, it's that you're dumb. Also, whenever
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  Speaker 2: there was violence during those Black Lives Matter protests, what
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  Speaker 2: was the story every time the police started it? The
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  Speaker 2: police for some reason didn't find it in their hearts
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  Speaker 2: to start it this time.
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  Speaker 4: Something.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is not that kind of podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, go for it. From a black perspective, let me
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  Speaker 4: oversimplify it.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like, let's say, Marca is the current black
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  Speaker 3: people are the ill treated black child, and then you
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  Speaker 3: have the spoil old white child, and the white child
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  Speaker 3: sit back and watch the black child pretty much to
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  Speaker 3: what they think Sootantio is about not being treated faily.
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  Speaker 3: Then the white, perfect white child goes out and does something.
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  Speaker 3: Now the black child looking back, like, now, how you're
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  Speaker 3: going to punish this white child? How you punish us?
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  Speaker 3: So black people right now really kind of watching like
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  Speaker 3: how this kind of unfolds?
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  Speaker 4: But we already know how it is.
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  Speaker 3: But now the world will see this is how America operates.
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  Speaker 3: Its kind of it's really embarrassing old world seeds. It's
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  Speaker 3: like it's not a good look.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, and it really is. It was. It was
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  Speaker 1: one of those things that really I think laid bare
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of people who were maybe in really
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  Speaker 1: deep denial, kind of laid bare all of the foundational
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  Speaker 1: lies of this country that we have been brought up
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  Speaker 1: on for decades and decades. Really kind of exposed a
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  Speaker 1: lot of that for what it for what it was,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, I guess if there's any good outcome,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean people are still in denial. Like I'm not an idiot,
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  Speaker 1: but like, you know, it's at least nice to have
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  Speaker 1: it out in the open a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: But the world now sees ow dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty laundry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also want to add, I obviously have
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  Speaker 2: like everything I'm going to say here is a hunch,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't have any proof of any.
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  Speaker 1: Of this, no hard evidence.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. If you can find it in
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  Speaker 2: your heart to believe only liberal elites are involved in
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  Speaker 2: child sex trafficking, you can let me do some theater
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  Speaker 2: of the mind here with your theory also, like come.
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  Speaker 1: On, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what I think is that white nationalists are
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  Speaker 2: about to walk into a trap. I think they already did,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's going to happen a lot. Like
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  Speaker 2: if we know anything about the United States, we know
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  Speaker 2: we're good at putting down a movement. And if you
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  Speaker 2: think we're not asked the Black Panthers, it's not like
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  Speaker 2: we had like one or two skirmishes with the Black
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  Speaker 2: Panthers and things, you know, just magically went back to
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  Speaker 2: how they were before. Like that was a long extended
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  Speaker 2: effort that we spent a lot of resources on. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the first thing I want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: in regards to all this is this idea that there
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  Speaker 2: are two sides to the American government. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's actually true. Like we get to vote for two sides,
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  Speaker 2: and one side or the other feels a little better
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  Speaker 2: about the country depending on if their side is in office.
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  Speaker 2: But the American government has always kind of had the
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  Speaker 2: same goal, Like we have one goal at least since
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  Speaker 2: like the eighties, maybe well before that, way back to
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  Speaker 2: the nineteen hundreds, Like our goal is protecting the corporate
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  Speaker 2: interests that rule our government. Yeah, that's the outside influence
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  Speaker 2: on our government that we should be most worried about.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably the foundational crisis in this country right now
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  Speaker 2: is the degree to which we cowtow to corporate America.
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  Speaker 2: And that's always kind of been the thing. So I
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  Speaker 2: feel like the idea that the American government would want
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  Speaker 2: to align with Trump supporters is kind of silly because
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  Speaker 2: you have to think about what Trump support. Like all
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  Speaker 2: the Trump supporters who claim they didn't vote because they're
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  Speaker 2: super duper racist, what did they say? They voted on
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  Speaker 2: trade and foreign policy. Sanders and Trump were very similar
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  Speaker 2: when it came to trade in foreign policy. It's just
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  Speaker 2: everything else they were radically different about. And like you
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  Speaker 2: even saw some of that with Trump, Like we want
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  Speaker 2: to think he really wants war with Iran, but when
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  Speaker 2: it came down to it, he just assassinated one guy
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  Speaker 2: and then John Bolton left because we wouldn't drop any
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  Speaker 2: bombs on Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like Trump's whole hawkishness, I mean, I like his
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  Speaker 1: supposed hawkishness is has always been kind of overstated. I
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  Speaker 1: think the danger of him as a as a commander
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  Speaker 1: in chief is more that he is an impulsive idiot
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  Speaker 1: who will just have There's always the chance that he'll
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  Speaker 1: just do something stupid that he feels like he wants
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  Speaker 1: to do at that time, and that would cause an
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  Speaker 1: international incident more than him actually engaging our military overseas
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  Speaker 1: and like a tactical maneuver, which has been pretty low,
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  Speaker 1: especially compared to our past two administrations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has like not engaged us in a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of wars. And here's the thing, since when does America
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  Speaker 2: love that?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about us, I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 2: me and you and Sliceberg and the people listening to
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  Speaker 2: this podcast. I mean the American government, Like, since when
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  Speaker 2: do we not want to be at war? We spend
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  Speaker 2: so much money on defense, and the people who get
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  Speaker 2: that money and spend that money, and the corporations that
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  Speaker 2: help us fight those wars, they're not just going to
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  Speaker 2: put their fucking hands up because Trump is in office.
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  Speaker 2: If you voted for Trump, you have to realize it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be that easy. Like what American president
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  Speaker 2: has ever come in and really changed things without like
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  Speaker 2: getting shot in the head like JFK.
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  Speaker 1: And even he didn't change like a ton.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Linda Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law.
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  Speaker 2: But so I think that's yeah, at least understand that
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  Speaker 2: that's the point of reference I'm working from, which is
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  Speaker 2: I don't really believe there are two distinct sides to
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  Speaker 2: the American government that both want radically different things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it's a fair assessment to
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  Speaker 1: say that we have a far right party in this
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  Speaker 1: country in the Republicans, and we have a conservative party
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  Speaker 1: in the Democrats, that has a burgeoning progressive wing, but
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  Speaker 1: still basically serving the same masters, just through a less
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  Speaker 1: extremist lens, fulfilling the same basic goal of the Republicans
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  Speaker 1: of days past before they kind of went off.
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  Speaker 2: The cliff right. And the other thing you have to
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind that people on the far right especially
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  Speaker 2: are super afraid of is government intrusion into people's lives.
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  Speaker 2: And if you think the American government's gonna give that
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  Speaker 2: shit up, you you must have missed nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Like we seize every opportunity to intrude into average citizens' lives,
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  Speaker 2: Like the FBI can look up your browser history without
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  Speaker 2: a warrant. Now, oh yeah, we know, the NSA can
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  Speaker 2: just intercept phone calls, Like we know all the things
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  Speaker 2: these people are capable of, and they're they're doing it,
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  Speaker 2: so they're not gonna like, let Trump and his supporters
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  Speaker 2: come in office and be like, Okay, yeah, you got
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of all that. We can't we can't
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  Speaker 2: be getting into people's lives in this manner. There's no
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  Speaker 2: fucking way.
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  Speaker 1: But and again this kind of goes back to what
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  Speaker 1: I was saying about the difference between the anti government
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  Speaker 1: types and a lot of the and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the other guys is I think there's a there's a
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  Speaker 1: large group of them that don't care that the government
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  Speaker 1: is spying on people because they think that the government
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  Speaker 1: likes them, and they're just spying on the people that
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  Speaker 1: they don't like like and getting them for things and
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  Speaker 1: and not not going after the Trump supporters and then
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  Speaker 1: those people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that speaks to the naivety of
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  Speaker 2: Trump support.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone in this country who thinks the American government
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  Speaker 2: is really working in their favor you're rich, if you're
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  Speaker 2: not rich, there is absolutely no way you should feel
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  Speaker 2: that way. Like there's no evidence that proves it, Like,
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing to suggest that the American government really has
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  Speaker 2: the best interest of the little guy in mind, we
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  Speaker 2: are beholden to corporations and profits.
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  Speaker 1: See, the only evidence that they want or need is
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  Speaker 1: that the government hurts people that they hate, and that's
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  Speaker 1: that's good. That's close enough to helping them for for
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  Speaker 1: them like that, that's you know, the best that they
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  Speaker 1: can hope for.
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  Speaker 3: What changes now now that they see Actually, I'm a
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  Speaker 3: look concerned about the some of the police who helped
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  Speaker 3: during the situation, though, those are the ones who like,
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  Speaker 3: this happens again. Where do they stand Now'll we know
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  Speaker 3: that the police are maybe somewhere against it, maybe a couple,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot might have been in favor of what happened.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what he helped a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's That's been my concern forever and ever. Like
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  Speaker 2: I've every time I've said Trump won't leave office peacefully,
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  Speaker 2: I've followed it up by saying, we're gonna hit a
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  Speaker 2: point where we have to hope the police and the
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  Speaker 2: military do the right thing. And I feel like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Trump supporters, and especially these QAnon idiots who
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  Speaker 2: storm the Capitol, have it in their head that a
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  Speaker 2: really significant portion of the military and police are on
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  Speaker 2: their side. And I feel like they're wrong. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like they're being set up to test that theory because
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  Speaker 2: you're already like, is the FBI not arresting people? Like
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  Speaker 2: there are people people already on no fly lists. There's
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  Speaker 2: video on Twitter of a guy crying in the airport
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  Speaker 2: because all he did was storm the capitol and now
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  Speaker 2: they're calling him a terrorist and he can't fly. It's like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Dumbass getting a small taste of what it's been like
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  Speaker 1: to be an Arab since nine to eleven basically.
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  Speaker 2: And so even if the police didn't shoot as many
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  Speaker 2: people as we wish, this isn't going well for the
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  Speaker 2: people who did it, but it's also.
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  Speaker 1: Not going as poorly as it could have.
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  Speaker 4: True, I mean to try again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing I think that I think, if anything,
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  Speaker 1: they feel emboldened.
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  Speaker 2: By this, And that's the thing I think. I think
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that big confrontation is what the government wants. And that's
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like the whole point of this, because if
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you think about it in the big picture sense, one,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: this is a problem we've been dealing with, I mean forever,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: but at least like in the public eye since the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: early nineties, which that's thirty plus years that we've had, Well.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Let's let them think they want a little like, let
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: them think this is a small victory for now.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Kinda so they can do it again.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Because what's what's happening now? We went from a summer
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: of people on the left being like, why can't the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: cops stop shooting people? And now, even though they're very
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: different things, now a lot of us are like, why
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: didn't the cops shoot more people? Yeah, I'm so used
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to that, But I feel like if this happens again,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: if you're the government and you want to draw these
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: anti government types out, these people who think they are
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: bold enough and armed enough to actually take on the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: federal government, you gotta let them try it once. You
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: gotta let them try it once, and you gotta shoot
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: one of them once just to let them know. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: now they think, well, we got in and only one
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of us died, and like most of the casualties were
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: on their side, so.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Right, so so we can say I'm sorry, like it
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: in their mind, this is a war they only lost,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: like like you said, maybe one or two they soldiers,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: So this was kind of a success on their mind,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: on their part, So let's let's go bigger next time.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: There were people quoted on the way out walking past
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: cops saying you didn't take it, we gave it back.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, that's kind of true because you're
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a bunch of remote control sheep with Trump's finger on
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the button, and he put out a video and said
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: go home. So you went home like a bunch of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: boot licken government idiots.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: That is true. They did just fully go home. It
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is it's just so just as a quick sidebar, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to derailiy it, but it is extremely funny
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and telling to me that they had no plan for
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: once they got inside the building, like they didn't do anything.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: They just kind of took selfie.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: That's actually that's actually not it seems like that's not
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: entirely true because there there were the people with the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: zip ties, like they found bombs.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I think they had I think they had ideas right
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the things that they wanted to do, but like he
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: didn't use those zip ties really like you know, like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they could have easily taken hostages even if they weren't
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Congress people. They could have easily made demands even if
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: they were just holding the room, but they did did
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: They don't have demands because they don't have any needs.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: They don't really have any once or or or actual
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like policy. They just wanted to fuck around.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: It felt like a video game like they felt once
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: they get in the game was over and they won. Yes, yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I've got in the castle. It's over.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I did hear at one point that when that first
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: crowd went in, if they went a different way, they
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: would have gotten into the Senate chamber while people were there,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and then we have no idea. But as Chat Wilde
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: pointed out on the On Pops podcast this week, for
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: some reason, they got in the Capitol and then started
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: following all the velvet ropes and ship. It's like you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: can take you just baguate with the police. Why don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: you just take the take the velvet ropes down and
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: spread out a little bit.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: You've got respect, rope, you got respect.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Because there moron who have no like agency. They just said,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they just do what they're told. Yeah, it's just the rope.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Don't touch the velvet rope.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Like Trump Enterprise is on it or something.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: The rope is implied authority, like they just so they
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: just follow it because they are used to following authority.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: It's just so like they they did that. There was
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: also that one of the most striking videos of the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: whole time that I found so fascinating was the video
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of the singular Capitol Hill cop holding like holding a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: stairwell as like a whole mob of the guys who
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: eventually made it into the Senate chambers like kind of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: slowly charged him, but like it was just one guy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: They could have just gone around him, or he could
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: have like shot them, but he didn't do that and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they didn't do that. It was just a very odd
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: standoff that really it was just like he didn't want
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to escalate on his side for some reason, because now
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: cops don't like to escalate, and then they were just
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like so cowed by his authority while also still wanting
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to make their stand. It was just very fascinating. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: don't really have any where I'm going with I just
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: found that to be such an interesting video.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: For one, are we sure that guy had a gun?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if all the Capitol police had guns,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: because he kept pulling up. Then he had a gun,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I feel because he pulled a baton and didn't hit him. Like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna pull a weapon and not use it,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: you pull your gun. Obviously you don't have.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Any intention to shoot, which is good gun safety.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're being a shitty cop.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Like at that point, cop, we have a factual video
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: evidence that he is a shitty cop.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: But I think that moment also kind of speaks to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the the feeling I think a lot of people in
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that capital had were are we really doing this?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Like is this actually working?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? I don't think they planned on getting in. No.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I got an idea here. Okay, we'll give you three months.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Open the capitol back up, put velvet ropes outside the
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: signs that say riders enter here, and have ropes and
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: signs throughout the capitol directing them to one room because
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: they want to follow it. Just have a bunch of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: soldiers in there with guns ready when he go into
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: this room. That's just they wouldn't follow the direction and
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: just have a little signs and shit, they'll go right
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: in and bam.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it might it might work. I mean, yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: people are worried about security at Biden's inauguration, but I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: think maybe velvet ropes might be the Just put some
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: velvet ropes up around Biden and no one will get
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: close to them.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just put up a red carpet that leads to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: one of those machine gun mounted Nissans that explode after
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: they kill their target. Like, oh my god. Yeah, Like
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Israel used to take out that Iranian nuclear scientist. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite stories of twenty twenty that he died.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Like that was like, assassination is bad, but oh Man
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to do it in that car was insane, breaking bad fashion.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, So I actually think this in
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: my dream version of this. I think this is a
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: plan that probably started as soon as the Internet started,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: because we had like if you flash back to the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: early nineties, two things happen right at the beginning of
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the decade. The Internet becomes a thing that people can use,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like the first Internet message boards were operational by like
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: eighty nine ninety, and immediately anti government types start using
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the Internet to spread their message, and it seems like
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that would be a downside for the government, but of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: course it's not, because the Internet reminder started as a
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: government thing, like that was a government network that the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: government used to keep people connected. And then at one
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: point the government was just like here you go, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: we were all like, okay, we'll take it. This seems
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: fun and out.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they gave them the tools to you say, pretty much,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: they gave them the tools to do this with. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: just I would argue in the chemicals, how they building this,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: they built and what they thought they would build with
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the what we gave them.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Pretty much.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would argue the government has been giving us
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the tools to spy on ourselves since at least this moment.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Like once they were like, once they slid the Internet
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: across the table, we were done. Like from a surveillance standpoint,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we were done.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Really, we never should have taken it, Like anything that's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: getting slid across the table like that, you know, it's shade.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You don't want to take that. It's not worth it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: The craziest part is we went into it with this
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: sense of oh man, the Internet, it's the wild West, baby,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: there's no laws. You can get on there. You can
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: do whatever you want. But the problem is that meant
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the government didn't really have any laws either.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it took a while to figure that one out,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Like we.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Were so dumb about it. Like even up to when
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Facebook was a thing, there were people like posting themselves
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: like doing beer bongs at three in the morning, before
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: they have to go to work the next day and
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: they're like, well you're fired now you're being a shitty employee.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And they're like, you can't look at my Facebook. It's
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like everyone can. That's kind of the whole problem, but
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: also like it's cool that they can monitor people, but
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: also they had to figure out, well, what about the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: actual Well it is right, but they I feel like
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: they also had to figure out, well, how do we
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: stop the information we don't want to be spread from spreading.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You can't take on every incident by itself. And I
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: think what happened, and I feel like there is actually
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: some kind of like mk ultra documentation to this effect.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like the government maybe kind of started the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory industry that popped up in the early nineties,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: because then it works the same way as tabloids. The
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: National Inquirer prints a bunch of bullshit stories, but sometimes
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: their stories are real stories that people took to actual outlets,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and those outlets were like, we can't fucking run this.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We have advertisers to think about, and then the National
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Inquirers like, we don't and they'll fucking run it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I read it notes you wrote after you said, met
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that's pretty genius. I think I'm going to start making
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: lies about myself like that that way, None of that
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: is true. I guess it all a wild shit that
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I've never done the way who knows?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You heard what about me? Did you hear it from
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the Washington Post?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Then it's a theory that is literally the Trump playbook
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: like that is just tells me the lies as you
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: possibly can, and then eventually people will start believing them.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It's actually a brilliant strategy. I know so many people
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: who are very very skeptical of our elected officials, but
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: also there they'll hear like a scandal mentioned and they'll
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: be like, well, the government denied it, and it's like, well, yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the government denied it. They're not, like, what evidence are
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you waiting on? That isn't the evidence you've had presented
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: to you already.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I hate that turn when someone says someone did not Like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: has anyone ever said, you know what I did kill
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: with Kurt that person?
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: You got me? No one ever does that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Everyone always says, yeah, I didn't do that shit, Yeah
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: who wouldn't, Yeah I wouldn't.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, like we kind of had two choices
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: when the Internet started, we could either do that. We
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: could either discredit anyone who breaks from the official government
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: line as conspiracy theorists, or you do what China does
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and start cracking skulls if people google the wrong thing,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and that's not us, Like, we don't do that, we guys.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's similar to I mean, you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it's kind of the same playbook as the as the UFO,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you know, Project blue Book kind of denial things, which
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: we've talked about in the podcast before, Like it is
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you know, they they go out and they and they say,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: this isn't real, This isn't real, and then they put
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: out a bunch of things like you know, it's aliens,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: it's all this stuff, but really they're testing like experimental
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: aircraft or some shit. And yeah, it's it's a classic
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: classic tactic.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a god damn it. I always forget the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: name of the documentary, but we did an episode about it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It's about a guy named Richard Dodey. Documentary is called
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Mirage Men. That was his that was his actual job.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: When if someone would and this was like when people
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: were doing it in magazines and shit, like if someone
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: presented information that they thought exposed a government plot or
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: something the government was working on. If it was an
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: actual thing the government wanted to cover up, they would
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: send that guy out to be like, you're right. You
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: don't know, you don't understand how right you are. You're
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: so right. I'm going to give you more information that
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: proves even more how right you are. And that would
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: all be bullshit and they would publish that and people
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: would be like, you fucking liar, No, how can we
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: ever believe anything you ever say? Again, that was his
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: whole job, was going out and doing that to people.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: So it's not a stretch to think the government would
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: try to kind of put that same thing in place
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: for the entire Internet. And like the early nineties, that's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: also when conspiracy theories really started being not really a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: mainstream thing, but when they started becoming really popular. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: so now, if you're the government, you have conspiracy theories,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you have the Internet, it's a place to spread them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: One thing you could do that I think they did
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: do is you can put people into that community to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: also discredit that community. And one of the early examples
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: of that, there's a conspiracy theorist named Bill Cooper who
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: was like, if I die, the Freemasons did it, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: he got like shot and killed two years later. One
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: of his early like not early, but one of the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: things he always brought up was when Alex Jones first
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: started surfacing. He was like, that guy is a government plan.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: That guy is here to make the rest of us
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: look bad, and someday I'm going to do that, Bill
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Hicks Alex Jones episode of My Dreams, because I feel
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: like there's more to that theory than people give it
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: credit for. But anyway, well, I do want to.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Say I think part of the difference, though, I think
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: something that does need to be said is that I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that the government needed to even be
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: involved in the creation of any of these conspiracy theories
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: or anything. Just due to the nature of the Internet
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: as a place where so many people can go and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: say whatever the fuck they want, I think they could
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just you know, they can easily just rely on someone
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: else saying that and letting that do it, letting other
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: people do their job for them in that way.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that if it weren't for George
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: hw Bush, because sure, one of the things that really
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: sets the conspiracy theory crowd off is the New World Order,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: and the New World Order was a conspiracy theory that
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: was limited to really militaristic, extremist right wing groups, like
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: anti government groups, not even necessarily racists, but anti government
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: groups who were worried about the government encroaching on our
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: free and it was limited to them at first. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: then in the early nineties, George Bush gives this speech
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: that has come to be known as the New World
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Order Speech, where he's like, we're entering a new world
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: order and he's like hinting at all this like one
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: world government shit, and it's.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Wait, wait was it again?
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: That was nineteen ninety.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Now that that same year, that's when hip hop started
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: to go towards a lot of conscious rappers. That speech
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: was like that speech is in so many rap songs,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: especially a lot of Wuchang shit. Like they started to
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: talk about, you know, new World Order, it gotten a
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: rap pretty quick. And that's a lot of information about
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: that spread too pretty quickly.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost as if they kind of wanted to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: rile people up a little bit. Because also nineteen ninety,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the year stormfront dot org goes online. It started as
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: just like an Internet bulletin board, but it has been
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: online since nineteen ninety so immediately the governm had to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, well they're using the internet, of course,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: thank you. That's great. Now how do we get them
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: talking more? Yeah, George Bush gives a New World Order speech,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and then Pat Robertson in nineteen ninety one, the seven
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: hundred Club guy, writes a book called the New World Order.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That's how the religious right got I think, involved in this,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and he's like, look, Christians, the government wants to make
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you all communists. They want a one world government, a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: one world police force, and they're coming to take your guns.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: And so now the entire conspiracy crowd is like shit coming.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I just would like to say to any of our
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: overlords who are monitoring this podcast that I think the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: one world government, new World Order, that I think that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: sounds like a great idea. I just I'm one hundred
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: percent for it. Just one government, that's it, that's all
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: we need. That'd be great. Go team, if that's what
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: it is, go on for it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the New World Order and the Illuminati
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: both at this point are American intelligent psyops meant to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: identify people who are prone to questioning the government.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Illuminati thing is just like there's just no
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: way that one is just way too fantastical for for
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: it to be even close to real. It's just like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it's way too it's way too fun, Like you can't
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: really you can't, Like there's no way that that our
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: actual uh ruling conspiracy is so much fun. There's not parties,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: there's not robes, there's not like you know, secret handshakes
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and ship that's just way too good of a time.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean if it is true, I still
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: want in like, oh no.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I said, one government great idea.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I mean only if I get to it. If I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: get to be Illuminati, it's a great idea.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if I get to be Illuminati, if
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I get yeah, I could be a bad table.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. If I'm getting crushed under the thumb of
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: un tyranny, then no, I want no part of it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I will never understand how the government convinced groups like
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: this to use the Internet, Like how would you not
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: be suspicious of that? Like this is the part I
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: can't explain.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just think that the Internet
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: is just such a self evidently powerful communications tool that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: almost any group of people who are spread out across
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the country or the globe are gonna be tripping over
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: themselves to want to use something like that, even if
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: it's being monitored, even if they know. It's like, people
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: know the Internet is being monitored now and they still
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: love using that using I use it every day all time.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: But like, and I know that it's like it's got
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: this deep dark underbelly and that it's being monitored and shit,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But like it's such a powerful tool, or at least
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it could be that. I think that potential is attractive
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: enough to even get like a super paranoid anti government
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: type involved.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel that way about TikTok right now. I
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: know so many people who are like, ban the Nazis,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: jack all sudden, check out my TikTok. It's like half
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: of this was planned on TikTok.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I Yeah, I honestly that was the big Like I
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: consider myself unfortunately fairly like up to speed on what
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the nutjob fascists on the internet are trying to do.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: And I was not aware of the massive push of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: fascists and right wingers on TikTok. I really was surprised
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: by that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Do you think they dance.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know. I want to see them
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: dance to some country boy cancer.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: That's a requirement.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Dance steps while saying the Holocaust doesn't real. This is weird.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: All of their dances have fourteen eighty eight steps.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Listen, it's an ace of base.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Oh no, we're bringing up back.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: It's a good poll base. Yeah, speaking of speaking of
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: fourteen eighty eight or whatever, the stupid number is one
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: good thing. Number one good thing that has come out
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: of this capital riot is I have a phrase that
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to carry with me for probably all of
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, anytime I'm even minorly inconvenienced. This is
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: my seventeen seventy six. I love that so much. So
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: many of them were like, this was my seventeen seventy six.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: No, it's not wow, No, not even close your I
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: wish that would be cool.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You motherfuckers are about to find out alien technology is real.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: This is not your.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like even Storm Area fifty one is part
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: of the where people were like because remember that they
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: were like, they can't shoot all of us at once.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But then the military was like, no, we
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely can shoot all of you once. I don't want
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: you to be under a miss up like understanding.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Wait wait, that's a good point now now no, wait,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: if they charged a capital only one person was shot,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: what would happen if they charged fifty one?
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Would they get the closes they got? They might, they
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: might be able to crack the secret for US.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I think the military has a much more vested interest
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: in protecting one of its bases than in.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: More than a capital.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, really, absolutely, I think they're much I think they're
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: very self serving as an organization in general. I don't
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: think they want anyone touching their toys. Yeah, the military
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: is extremely suspicious in general.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: More than the government though, very side.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the government would absolutely sacrifice Mike
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Pence if it meant the world not finding out we
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: did something with that Nazi the alien technology we got
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: after World War Two, who knows.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, honestly, I think everything is pretty
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: much on the table right now. Like I think saying
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: that anything is a certainty or a certainty to not
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: happen is kind of foolish because things are crazy.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Very crazy right now a little bit.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: So basically basically anything could conceivably happen. I would love
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: if in the next week, before Biden was tried to inaugurate.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I can't say that he's going to be inaugurated. I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: just say they're gonna try. But like before, I think
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: if in the next week aliens should come, that would
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: be great. If they just came and they're just like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: we're just like, we're gonna just fuck you all over.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna we're doing the Stephen Hawking thing. We're
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: just gonna like wipe you all out. But we'll take
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it slow so you get to be scared and that'll
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: be that'll be the alien thing. It'd be great.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I'd be for it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah again, Aliens, if any alien you're listening, I just
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: want to say I've always been a fan, always supported
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the alien cause I'm always always on board with whever
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: probing or abduction type plans.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: That you have.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I'm an ally, I'm an I'm an ally in ally in.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: A right.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: So let's go back to what we were talking about.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: The New World Order speech happens the New World Order
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: book comes out. I want to remind everyone George hw
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Bush used to be the head of the CIA, so
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: he knows a thing or two about plots and plans
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and putting down groups that the government doesn't want to thrive.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And then the New World Order conspiracy involves a militarized
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: police force or government descending on these people to take
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: away their guns. So what do we do next? We
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: start descending on these groups to take away their guns? First,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Ruby Ray, which that guy like that guy just was
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: accused of selling like a sawed off shotgun and we
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: killed half his family over it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: They did kind of overreact the government, well both I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: think both sides. Maybe not to be a both sides
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: kind of person, but I think they both kind of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: overreacted slightly to that whole situation. M.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if you're right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong often So it's fine.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: And then Waco happens. And here's the thing. I'm not
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a white nationalist, which neither were the people at Waco.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: But even I when that happened, and still now looking
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: back on it was like that was a bit much.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: The government really really acted up in that moment. Yeah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: and so if I was noticing it, what do you
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: think the white nationalists were thinking? And the anti government
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: types who had just been they've just spent decades worrying
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: about the new world order, and now here comes George
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Bush to say new World order, and now it's actually
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: playing out in front of them. So I don't know
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: if that was all intentional, Like I don't know, I
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: don't know if Ruby Ridge and Waco were intentional, but
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: we know what it caused. Like that, that's where a
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: lot of these anti government types who might have been
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: a little more on the fence about it, really got
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: radicalized to the point that the Oklahoma City bombing happens,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: what is it two years later after wacout, like one
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: or two years later, and so yeah, I think it
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: was yeah, or was it ninety.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Four that Atlanta, right, yeah, bombing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So, man, the nineties were crazy.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Something you'll get credit enough, I think, and.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: We will manicize them so much.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Well, the economy was just so good that we just
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: can't think of anything else that's true.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: So so then, like I know, I'm kind of dragging
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: this out. I'm gonna speed through it a little bit.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: So now we're at this point in the mid nineties
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: where we've got conspiracy theorists on one side and that
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: is where the anti government groups are, and they're like, oh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: spreading their talk online and just kind of doing it
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: unabated for a few years. And then nine to eleven happens,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: and I think that's the point where a lot of
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: anti government types became Republicans because now our enemy wasn't communists,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: which I guarantee everyone pictured as like Ivan Drago, so
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: like at least they're white. Like, once nine to eleven happened,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: that's a whole other thing, And that's where you start
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: seeing these right wing patriot types start aligning with Republicans instead.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: So then what do you drop into the middle of
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that environment Our first black president his middle name is Hussein,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: and with that right wing extremist go nuts. And here's
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the thing. People on the left spent eight years going
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: nuts under George Bush. We don't want to admit it
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: or talk about it anymore, but by the end of
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: those eight years we were like, Bush is gonna put
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: us in FEMA camps?
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he was here.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: So Bush was definitely deserving of going crazy. He is
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: every bit as awful or worse than Trump. So I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: think going crazy was a rational response to the Bush administration.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: But I also think that's kind of what the government wants.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Like it's not like we've been getting more and more
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: unified as a nation since two thousand, Like two thousand
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: in the Bush era is like when it really took off. Yeah, yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: and then once Obama takes office, that's not gonna make
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: it better. And then near the end of Obama's run,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: like eight years into everyone carrying around a phone that
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: had a camera on it. Magically, in twenty fourteen, police
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: killing black people becomes news. It's like that's been happening
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: since we're yes, like like since recorded history, that has
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: been happening, right, No, that's the old formula.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are just new fans of police brutality.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I've been playing this stuff.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Elate and so twenty fourteen, which I didn't on Pops
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: recently about how it was the literal worst year in
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: recent memory, twenty twenty included. But it's a flashpoint, twenty fourteen.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: That's where black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter both start,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and like, once that happens, we are, as a nation
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: for the most part, firmly on our teams. There's there's
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: centrists who I think are actually the group the government
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: cares about the most because they just want to be comfortable.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Like, right, there's status quo, Like that's what centrism is about,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: is the status quo, and that's what the government is
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: trying to protect.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Right. And so you have the country divided basically into
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: black lives matter, Blue lives matter. You drop Trump into
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the middle of that, and now he is the most
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: polarizing president we've ever had. And so we have the
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: two sides in place. How do you how do you
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: get him to come out? Well, for leftists, it's very simple.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Just show people what the police already do.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: You don't have to really rally anyone, like, there's no
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: other efforts you have to get behind. Just show us
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: those videos and people will respond, right yeah. I mean
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: it took good six years before people six.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Years and people still are wishy watchy about it. Right.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: But that gets that side of political dissent out into
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: the streets. But how do you how do you rile
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: up those white nationalists and those anti government types who
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: feel a little more relaxed because Trump is in office? QAnon?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: QAnon is how you do that? And you do it
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: by exploiting something fucking intelligence agencies have been exploiting forever,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: which is pedophilia. That is a tactic governments have been
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: using against their enemies for a long time, just to
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: accuse them of being pedophiles because that tugs at the heartstrings.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: And we know from the Satanic panic that it would
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: work in the United States. Like that's all the Satanic
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: panic was was people freaking out about satanic pedophiles at
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: daycare centers. As if a daycare center one of the
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: stories was that they slaughtered a giraffe. Where would they
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: get a giraffe?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, sounds like a
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: great day of daycare.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Someone's gonna drive by and be like, is that a giraffe?
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I have so many questions.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen the giraffe spraying blood before.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: This is this is unusual exactly, And like that's a
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: big neck to like, that's a really big necktish slice,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you know, like, holy shit, it's.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: A lot of necks.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: You gotta get the right packill giraffe. That better be
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: a sacrifice the last all year.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would hope don't waste that neck meat.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: And so like even the fact that Trump got elected
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: kind of feels like a honeypot sort of situation to me.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I have a quote in the notes here we go.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: than the Republicans. Now it shouldn't be that way, but
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: if you go back, I mean, it just seems that
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the economy does better under the Democrats. But we certainly
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: had some very good economies under Democrats as well as Republicans,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: but we've had some pretty bad disasters on the Republicans.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: That is Donald Trump talking to Wolf Blitzer in two
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: thousand and four.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Up a lot.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I think it is one of the underrated things about
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Trump is that he used to be a Democrat.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the thing about Trump, and I think this
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: is a thing that has kind of gotten accepted and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: not normalized, but just like people have almost forgotten about
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it because it is such an ever present thing. But
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the maddening thing when Trump started to run for president
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: was people would keep throwing out all of this kind
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of stuff and like him calling Republicans stupid and saying
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that that's why he would run as a Republican, and
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: like him going on Howard stern like people just non
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: stop for a year, like keep throwing out all this stuff,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and he would just he was just teflondn like he
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: would just like you know, it would just bounce off
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: of him like it really is. It was one of
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the most maddening things that I think has now just
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: kind of gone by the wayside because people are just
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: used to it, right, And.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: You have to think about what Donald Trump was to
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: his father. I cannot recommend enough reading the Mary Trump book.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: She is a clinical psychologist who also grew up with
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. So the insight you get from that book
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: is fascinating, and she talks a lot about his dad
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: and what his dad wanted out of his kids was
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: for the girls to leave him alone and not talk
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to him and not expect any affection or love.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And Cootie shot, so that's just saying that's true.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And out of his boys, he wanted one of them
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: to become what he called a killer because Fred Trump
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: lacked personality. He was not a guy that could go
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: out and impose his will on the public, and he
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: wanted one of his sons to be that. He just
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: wanted one of them to be the face of his
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: real estate, empire, go out and be an asshole in
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: public when you need to, I'll run everything else. That
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: was Donald Trump's role, and I kind of feel like
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: it's his role now, or it has been for the
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: last four years, even if he doesn't realize it. I
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: think that has kind of been what he's here to do,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: which is and again I'm not saying Donald Trump is
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: on some secret mission to destroy white nationalists. I'm saying
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is meant to pull everyone out and get
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: everyone fighting in the streets, so people in the middle
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: of that can go, Can someone just fucking stop this,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Like can I just go have coffee in Seattle with
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: my friends again without walking into a riot? Please stop this?
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: And that is what will happen. We will welcome the
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: government crushing descent on both sides. Not all of us.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: We'll be in prison, but everyone else in the middle
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: would be like, finally things are back to normal. Like
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I think that is what at least He's QAnon is about.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: And I think it's the he's the planned fire. We're
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: going to beg for them to put it out kind
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: of and like.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: You even heard Trump when he was campaigning this year,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: that's what he was campaigning on he was campaigning on like.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: He even used the phrase the silent majority, and the
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: silent majority is a term Nixon coined that referred to
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: people who didn't participate in Vietnam War protests, who weren't
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: a part of the counter culture, and who didn't talk
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: about their political views publicly. You can leave the don't
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: talk about their political views publicly in place and replace
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: the other two with Black Lives Matter protests and socialism.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: That's going to resonate with a lot of people who
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: will hear why. I don't want to be a white nationalist.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be a socialist. If I say
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: either of those things, someone's gonna murder me. So I
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: just want that entire situation to go away. That is
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: always who America is working for. The people who want
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: things to stay exactly as they are.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: They play by the rules quote unquote yeah, yeah, they
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: not the non troublemakers.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I kind of losers.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Honestly, they're too cool to pick a club, join something.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, you gotta get that credit. Come on like it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: It almost feels like kind of a social experiment, like
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: these these people that storm the Capitol. I've brought this
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: up before. They spent the entire summer cheering over a
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: law that says if you desecrate a national monument or
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: a government building, it's a ten year prison sentence. And
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: what's the first thing they do the minute Trump loses.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: They go storm a government building without wearing masks. And
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, you wanted that law, and now you're gonna
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: go to prison.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Over It wasn't for them, not for them, not for
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: them exactly.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. That's the naivety of these
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: people believing any part of the American government had their
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: best interest in mind. And here's the thing. I don't
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: feel bad about it. I want them to walk into
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: this trap. It is what they deserve.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I will say, I just as just a little bit
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: of pushback, not not too much, because I do think
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that there's a lot of real, like validity to all
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of this and like real things to think about. But
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I do want to say, like, I don't want we
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: trend too close to giving a little bit too much
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: credit to the American people just in general as a
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: as a group, especially the people who are angry and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: dumb enough to be right wing people like I don't
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: think that they need a lot of, if any, outside
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: influence to stay mad and hateful even while they're in power.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I think that that is just in their like personality.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: They just like to be mad. They don't have any
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: other way to operate, right.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: So, But if you're the American government, do you want that?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Do you just want that to fester forever until they
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: get bold enough to do something like this as a surprise,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: or do you want to be like, fuck it, let's
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: tell it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm not saying that the government
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't have any sort of hand in pushing along some
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: of these things, but I do think that they would
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: rather deal with those people because those people, as we've said,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: when it comes to just how they even treated the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Capitol building itself and the premises, those people have a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: natural subservience to authority that the people on the left
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: do not have. Even the people who want a strong
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: central government, like I want a strong central government, but
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I am still a pretty strong, anti authoritarian type of person.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And that is a lot more of an unruly kind
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: of person to deal with than a group of people who,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: as long as you are fucking with the people that
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: they hate, are gonna basically go along with anything you
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: want regardless. Yeah, I think they're most they're mostly just
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: matt like a lot of the anger and the reason
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: why they didn't have any demands when they got to
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the floor of the Senate or anything, uh, is because
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: all they really wanted was an assurance that things will
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: still continue to be bad for the people that they hate.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, And I think that's kind of the tension
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: that will keep them coming out over the next few years.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. We're gonna get criminal justice reform
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: of some sort, like Biden has to do it. There
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: is absolutely no way. But there's also no way we're
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: gonna just let our private prisons be empty.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Like but I will say, like, but it's just so again,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: it's just so funny that they're too stupid to see
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: when they've got it good, because we might get criminal
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: justice reform under Biden, but there's no chance of it
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: being criminal justice reform that would not benefit those same
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: people who were storming the Capitol, Like, there's just no
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: way it'll only be to their benefit, right, But.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: They all these are the same people who cheered for
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: a law and then yeah, blatantly broke it.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: No, I know, that's what I'm saying. They're very stupid.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: They're very dumb. Yeah, like like like stupid, dumb, angry people.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: But it's just that. But that's that's kind of my
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: point is like if they would just like settle down
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit and like actually look at the reality
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: of who is about to enter office, they would have
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: a lot less to be super upset about.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, look up Biden's record, you idiots.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not like the left hasn't been shoving it
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: in their face for like a year and a half.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Like they Holly would have to do is listen to us,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: But no, they hate us, so they can't do that.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: But if they would just listen to the leftists, they
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: would know that Biden is actually kind of their die.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: They probably really like him if they if they actually
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: listen to him.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I think coronavirus is gonna put the country in a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: similar situation to this, because right now, with this insurrection happening,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who don't trust the police have
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: to kind of trust the police. Like I read an
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: article about a girl who was in She's a Black
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Lives Matter activist. She didn't want to be named because
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: within her group, you don't call the police. But she
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: was also seeing all this shit saying, well, we're gonna
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: attack the capitol on January sixth, We're gonna kill activists,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: We're gonna kill and she was like, fuck it, I'm
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: gonna call the FBI. And of course the FBI didn't
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: do anything. But I feel like coronavirus is gonna be
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: that next thing where people on the left like, I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: don't want to put a government app on my phone,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: but I also want to be able to leave the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: house at some point. And I don't doubt that if
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: coronavirus gets bad enough, the government will be like yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: and leave the house. Do you have that pass that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: shows you've been vaccinated?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: It's what South Korea did, and that sort of thing.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Like not everyone's gonna want that vaccine?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Well no, obviously, no, I mean it's and then what
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: happens to people just have a problem with America?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Are people just not allowed to leave the house?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean well no, because what's gonna happen is
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna we're gonna go back to business as usual.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: All the businesses are gonna open up, like normal. Uh,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: people are gonna go back to work normally. All the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: shelter in place orders are gonna go away, and people
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: are just gonna keep dying every day in the thousands
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to tens of tens of thousands, and we're just gonna
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: pretend like it's not happening because that's the easiest way
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: to get back to normal.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Quid don't know about the vaccine.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: My girl is in the medical field, so she's they
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: have the option of getting the vaccine, but we just
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: don't research into it there actually is. It can cause
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: complications and fertility and women's Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I mean any anything like this like that's I mean,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that is just a thing for public health, Like any
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: sort of massive public health program that is being rolled
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: out this fast, Like the fact that we even have
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: a shitty vaccine this fast is just kind of a
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: testament to how dire the whole COVID situation is because
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: those things take fucking years to make, like every every vaccine,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: even for very pressing like diseases. So like, yeah, I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: think these first few vaccines are going to have those
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: kinds of uh like side effects and the it's just
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: gonna have to be a case where the possible, like
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: negative side effects are going you have to decide whether
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: they outweigh the possibility of catching COVID or giving COVID
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: to your friends or relatives. It's and I don't know
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: that every American. I mean, obviously every American won't make
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the same decision, and uh, they won't necessarily be wrong.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it yeah, it's just tough.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Like I if our government had handled this at all
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: in the entire last year, then maybe we wouldn't be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: put in these kinds of situations where we have to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: make those decisions. But yeah, it fucking sucks.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I think, I think a similar thing
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: is going to happen, especially if Biden takes office and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: puts a national lockdown in place, because we're already seeing
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: anti mask protests, Like even in La people are showing
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: up at malls and just like getting in people's faces
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: and mean and like not wearing masks. Yeah, it's it's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: happening in La a bunch, it's happening all over the country.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: And again, what these people don't realize, like pay attention
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: to what your president is doing. In April of twenty twenty,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Trump and his Department of Justice passed a law that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: makes intentionally spreading coronavirus an act of bio terrorism. I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: don't like that, so yeah, And that's the thing when
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: it when it happened, people on the left were like, whoo.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: What qualifiers as spreading it on? Like just not wearing
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: a mask.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: That's not how these laws works. As a person of
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Arab descent, I am immediately terrified whenever somebody, for like
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: makes a law like that. That is immediately a red
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: flag for me.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I just I'm not a fan of just outright declaring
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: that someone is a is a terrorist.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: That's not good and that they.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: The law says, if you do it, you can be
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: charged as a terrorist. And I think all these anti
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: mask fucks who think Donald Trump is on their side
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: don't realize that law was passed. And so the minute
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: there is a national lockdown, there's gonna be another insurrection
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: where all these anti mask types take to the streets
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: and fucking law, law and order happy. Joe Biden is
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: gonna be like, get in prison, bub it's a bunch
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: of malarkey you're doing.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: And you cannot do malarkey around Joe Biden.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: And who's gonna be mad? Who would be mad? Or
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: is anyone gonna be?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I would not be happy about anything like that personally,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: but I will say it is just America is just
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: so shitty and bad. Like those are very basic and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: elementary things to say, but like, what a stupid country.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: If we had just fucking shut everything down and just
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: paid businesses to stay closed and pay people to stay home,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: then half of this descent and half of this out
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: like problems wouldn't even be happening, Like it's just ridiculous.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, but after it, they're just.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Giving themselves problems by following these shitty principles.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Right, But immediately after it happened, all your favorite leftist podcasts,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: let Mark Cuban come on and tell the world that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: that's not what we should do.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't have any favorite left this podcasts, so
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're referring to.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Right after, right after coronavirus started, he went on a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: bunch of podcasts and was like.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, we any any leftist podcast that has Mark Cubanon
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: is no longer a leftist podcast, Like I'm sorry that is.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: You just relinquished your card with the president.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it's just they the government really shot
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: themselves in the foot with this whole coronavirus saying because
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: if they because if they were purposely trying to build descent,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: like a manageable descent, that could then be you know,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: fired against each the other side, leaving a state where
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the Centrists can live in their peaceful gray utopia. Like
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: if they if that was their intention, then they did
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: a really shitty job of it this year, because oh
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: what all they needed to do was get people money
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and it would have been a lot more manageable.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm not I'm not saying that, Like I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: want to make it really clear, I'm not saying that
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the government created COVID and no, but I think COVID
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: is an opportunity the government, or is a thing a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: lot of government saw as an opportunity as much as
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: it was a crisis. And I feel like one of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: the positive side effects for the man who's trying to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: hold people down when it comes to coronavirus is there
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: is going to be this point where people who are
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: clearly like some of the most radicalized people in the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: country because they're willing to go out and ignore science
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a pandemic to prove their point,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Like this government doesn't want those people in place. Man,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: they will happily round them up and arrest them for
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: taking the streets if there's a national lock down.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: But if they didn't want them doing that, then they
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: should have paid them money to stay home.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Like what do you think is worse take an advantage
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: of a situation or create a situation to take advantage
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: of I mean.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Worse, I don't know, but I do think that taking
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: advantage of a situation is that is for real the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: government playbook and has been the government playbook in every
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: country for years. Like, I mean, that's the that's the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: classic I believe Churchill lang which has never let a
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: good crisis go to waste, which was then said by
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the Bush administration on nine to eleven regarding Iraq and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: was said in by Rob Emanuel regarding the economic crisis
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, Like that is that is
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: a for real government mantra is never let a good
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: crisis go to waste. And I think that explains just
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: as much as any sort of like purposeful action on
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the part of the government to build any of the movements.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, Like even if this, like everything
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: I laid out here, wasn't an active plot or like
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: a plan on the part of the government, there is
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: no question that the events that happened along the way
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: they took advantage of kind of in the way I described.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Like absolutely either way.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I just feel like somehow anti government activists starting in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: the early nineties allowed them to be duped into what's
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: happening right now. All of that, like setting up your
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Facebook groups and being a fucking asshole online, like all
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: of it is gonna culminate into you literally walking into
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: prison like like it's going and like if it gets
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: super duper out of hand, it's gonna culminate in the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: government taking guns, Like like I.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Mean the government should just take guns anyway. Yeah, if
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: you're gonna use a gun to protect yourself from government tyranny,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: then why do you care whether it's legal to begin with?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Right, But those aren't the only people who have guns,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Like no, That's.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is like, if you know, I've got
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: no problem with strict gun laws because the people who
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: you want to use guns to defend yourself against are
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: the government.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Oh fuck those motherfuckers too, Like I'm not talking about
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: to just.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Use illegal guns. Like I'm just saying, like, well, that's
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: just just illegal guns. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: That's the point though, the government's gonna go after illegal
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: guns too, and.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: They should already technically.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what that's gonna look like, right,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: that's us saying, Hey, can you send that militarized police
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: force into black and brown neighborhoods to just go door
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: to door and get all the guns? Yeah, the residents
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: will love it. It'll be fine. It's quite a conundrum.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know, I know I'm aware of that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: dilemma in particular, but yeah, it I don't have too
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: much of the moral gumption about the about the guns thing.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: It's the other stuff that's slightly more concerning.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: What about this what if we all get guns?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. That's literally what I'm saying. Like,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I think we should all have gunsgal, but just not
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: legal ones.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean, how.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Else am I going to defend myself when these fucking
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: crazy Trump people that live around me decide to act
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: up and uh come after me. You know, I'm not
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: gonna be using an illegal gun.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Certainly not.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the most baffling thing that this crowd
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: that started out as well, we have to have guns
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: to keep us safe from a tyrannical government have done
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: this one eighty over the past couple decades to where
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: they're now like, oh, we love the government so much.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, President, are you kidding me? President Trump? Like, yeah,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: that's the government we want forever. And it's like, why,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: because you think you can say the N word in public,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: You're willing to give up all your ideals for that.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, we sure are. Yeah, that's absolutely
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to do it. Oh my god.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing is like, that's why I kind
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: of said that the top is like, the actual militias
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: in groups who are fully anti government are I think
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: a lot smaller of a voice now than maybe then
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: they used to be in the nineties. Definitely, because they
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: were definitely huge in the nineties. That's like, you know
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: McVeigh and the Unibomber and all these guys who were
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: just hardcore anti government. I think that is a little
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: pass now. I think it's much more we want to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: be an authoritarian, but our size authoritarian right now. You guys,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: you guys don't get it.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: Only us.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's the main motivating fact there. I mean,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: like obviously there was still the anti government was trying
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: to like get in and and make their moves.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, man, crazy times, truly truly crazy. But uh yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying the government has been on
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: a crusade of good to rid the country of bigots.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I just think they want to get rid of descent altogether.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: And I think I think you're pro government. I think
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: you're I think you want to kiss the government. I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: think you I think you love them.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's the thing I brought up on the on
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  Speaker 2: Pops Pod yesterday too, is that even if there's this
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  Speaker 2: big clash and we see the government, uh just like
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  Speaker 2: mowing people down, Like, do we then trust the government
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  Speaker 2: to not just do the same thing when there's a
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  Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter protest. I sure don't. And when they do.
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  Speaker 2: Think when they do, they'll be like, you cheered for
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  Speaker 2: it last time, and we'll be like, but that was different,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll be like, turns out it wasn't that.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm not cheering about any of the like
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  Speaker 1: that's why I don't agree with the people who are
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  Speaker 1: trying to nark to the FBI about these people. I
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  Speaker 1: think that is morally reprehensible if you're if you're a
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  Speaker 1: leftist or a liberal, uh, and you know, I just uh,
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  Speaker 1: they'll get what's coming to them eventually, by one way
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  Speaker 1: or another or or whatever. But the FBI are not
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  Speaker 1: your friends just because they happen to be going after
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  Speaker 1: people that you don't like right now.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't, but I do think that they they
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  Speaker 1: you know, these these these fringe right wing groups, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they think that they've got a lot of the cops
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  Speaker 1: and the military on their side. And honestly, I don't
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  Speaker 1: disagree with them. I don't really think that they are
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  Speaker 1: necessarily wrong. I think that maybe a lot. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's more people in those positions who agree, uh than
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  Speaker 1: maybe people realize, and that I don't think it would
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  Speaker 1: come to if it's just the right wing people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like doing something like they did at the Capitol, or
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  Speaker 1: doing something bigger or I don't even know what it
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  Speaker 1: could possibly be. I don't think it'll come down to
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  Speaker 1: a shootout with the government and these and these right
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  Speaker 1: wing people. I don't think that it'll happen. I think
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  Speaker 1: it'll They won't go that far. They just want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I also think the government would be
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  Speaker 2: more than happy to let those people think that, like
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  Speaker 2: like that. Here's the thing. The military is not all
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: gonna be QAnon, Like QAnon is still a very fringe belief,
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  Speaker 2: Like scientology is huge, and by that we mean there's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand scientologists in the United States. Like, there's
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  Speaker 2: probably more QAnon people than that. But even then you
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  Speaker 2: have to carve out the police and the military from
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  Speaker 2: the idiots who just think they're whatever the fuck.
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  Speaker 1: But I also don't think that QAnon people necessarily make
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  Speaker 1: up even the majority of the people who want took
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  Speaker 1: action at the Capitol or want to take action like that. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I think that the q and On people I didn't see,
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  Speaker 1: Like I saw a little some q things like scattered
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  Speaker 1: throughout the crowd, but it was mostly that don't tread
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  Speaker 1: on me flag and the Trump flag and that sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing. But I do think that, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: government is just I think if if the last year
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  Speaker 1: and plus has proved anything, it's that the government is
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  Speaker 1: incredibly stupid and incompetent in a lot of ways. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I would. I wouldn't. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I hesitate to assign too much strategizing, at least domestic
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: strategizing to them as this thing.
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  Speaker 2: So do you think Joe Biden is going to die
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  Speaker 2: at the inauguration?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. This is why I was just
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  Speaker 1: saying about predictions. I have no fucking idea. I do
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  Speaker 1: think the inauguration day is going to be uh interesting
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: to watch. I think that Uh if you think that
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  Speaker 1: nothing is going to happen on that day, then you
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  Speaker 1: are hopelessly naive. But I could never predict what is
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. He could just have a William Henry
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  Speaker 1: Harrison term and that's it, Like that's just it, that's his,
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  Speaker 1: that's his Max. Who knows. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we already settled this as long as the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: velvet rope, so that he don't agree exactly.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing. I hope that the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 1: the future Biden administration, is listening to this podcast. And
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  Speaker 1: if they are, I'm not going to suck up to
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  Speaker 1: you like I did the World Order and the Aliens.
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  Speaker 1: But you should take the idea about the velvet rose
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  Speaker 1: because I think that is dynamite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they clearly respect him a lot. They've probably
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  Speaker 2: never seen them.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're all fucking stockholders and business people like they
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  Speaker 1: they've seen a velvet roper too.
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  Speaker 4: They know the rules.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think that's our episode. This was
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  Speaker 2: a long one. Thank you both. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: H this fun problem.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have anything to plug before we get out
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  Speaker 2: of here? Patreon dot com, slash on, pops on Pops,
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  Speaker 2: networked out, supercast dot tech. That's all I got, slice Berg,
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  Speaker 2: What do you got?
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  Speaker 4: I am with a new company now.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: It's called Waxfly. It is a record delivery service. They
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: will send you a package of five to six records
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: a month. If you sign up for an annual plan
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: use my name Slisper Slim, you will get five percent
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: off your subscription price. But it's pretty cool to they
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: send you a lot of good records once a month
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: and you listen to them, use to make music, do whatever.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: Good for DJs, music enthusiasts, producers.
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  Speaker 2: So is it just like random records or do you
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: pick the ones they send.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: You totally random?
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  Speaker 3: So it's like you never know the other day, I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: got a record from I got a Jackie Gleason record.
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  Speaker 4: I got the soundtrack to All the Family. Just watch it.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty cool though.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. Nice, Okay, Olivia, you got anything to plug?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Not really. I'm I'm on Twitter at high
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: their Hidar. I do these podcasts occasionally. I got another
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: thing and the works kind of thing kind of working on.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: So hopefully maybe next time I'm on I'll have something
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: a little more to plug.
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  Speaker 2: But for now, that's it, all right, let's get out
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  Speaker 2: of here, Olivia. Say goodbye bye, Slice Berg, say goodbye.
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  Speaker 4: Say guys have a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Goodbye everybody.
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  Speaker 1: We love you.