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- 0:07[SPEAKER_00]: Check some Bill Jack Wars fans.
- 0:08[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome in to DoveWalt Daily Prisoner by Jinjak.com.
- 0:10[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jordan Lua.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much for being here Wednesday, November 12th, second show of the day.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_00]: Just had Liam Cohen's press conference.
- 0:18[SPEAKER_00]: weekly Wednesday press conference, I always think it's a really good one to really pay attention to and lock in and see what Liam has to say about a number of different topics.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_00]: He just does an amazing job in terms of his clarity, communication, and just willingness to be as forthright as possible with most things, doesn't really get into injuries a lot, but he did start the press conference, talking about Travis Hunter.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_00]: his injury, all the stuff moving forward.
- 0:48[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get into all of it.
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- 0:59[SPEAKER_00]: So, would not commit to Travis Hunter being a two way player moving forward.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_00]: Said he knows there's all sorts of questions about
- 1:09[SPEAKER_00]: His ability to play both ways, about his injury timeline, all that stuff.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_00]: He said it's all just too premature to dive into that.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_00]: But that they have learned so much and grown so much and gotten so much experience.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_00]: knowing about how Travis learns how he works, the person he is, the personality, the communication, all that stuff, and they are so excited for his future, and the whole minor comeback for a major comeback type of mindset is what they've been trying to instill with Travis for sure, Murray's getting a little bit frustrated over here.
- 1:51[SPEAKER_00]: JAA's out there working on something.
- 1:55[SPEAKER_00]: So, to me though, the biggest thing, again, was they would not commit to Travis Hunter being a two-way player moving forward.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not that, to me, it's the fact that it's even in question is interesting, not necessarily bothersome or worriesome to me, like, if Travis Hunter is just a superstar wide receiver or just a superstar corner, which I believe he will be one of the two, if not both,
- 2:23[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you just tell me, he's only going to play a wider silver.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be a superstar.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_00]: If you just tell me, he's only going to play corner.
- 2:28[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be a superstar.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can do both.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this injury set back.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe team needs, which Liam Cohen talked about, how that can be a factor in how they're going to move forward with this, just team needs, where they need him the most.
- 2:47[SPEAKER_00]: All that stuff can be a factor.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_00]: is that Liam Cohen is for the first time publicly, even acknowledging that it's possible he wouldn't be a two-way player, interesting to me.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_00]: If they said, you know, we're drafted in Travis Hunter, we know
- 3:18[SPEAKER_00]: as well as anyone can know what a draft pick will be right because the draft is the ultimate crap shoot.
- 3:23[SPEAKER_00]: We know we're getting a player who is either going to be a superstar receiver or a superstar corner.
- 3:30[SPEAKER_00]: To the best of our ability knowing what and scouting and all that, right?
- 3:33[SPEAKER_00]: We believe this is a player that can be a superstar at one position or the other and maybe both.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to try both.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_00]: But if it doesn't work out,
- 3:44[SPEAKER_00]: because it's too much wear and tear, it's too much mental load.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_00]: We will at least be getting one of those two things.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't need to publicly say that.
- 3:53[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason to publicly say that.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_00]: But that could have been their mindset the whole time.
- 3:57[SPEAKER_00]: And we still don't know what their mindset was.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_00]: Fully, like, they don't have to share every single thing that goes into a decision.
- 4:06[SPEAKER_00]: They don't.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible that they said we're gonna try this out.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_00]: If it doesn't work out, we're going to figure out which side of the ball is going to play on and we're going to get a superstar.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_00]: That might be their mindset now, I don't know.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that it's even in question is fascinating and something that will be monitored and talked about to death over the next year, well, I mean, not year, but, you know, leading up, getting into the off season and leading up to
- 4:36[SPEAKER_00]: offseason, OTAs, many camps, training camp, all that stuff.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, gonna be fascinating for sure.
- 4:44[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I really do believe, if he's only focusing on one side, he can be a superstar.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely superstar, quickly.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_00]: To me, playing both sides, it was always gonna take a little bit more time to get the high impact, and there was high impact moments a lot from Travis Hunter this year.
- 5:08[SPEAKER_00]: but I think if he plays one side, he will be able to lock in a little bit more.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_00]: And probably, if he would have been playing at like a B to B plus playing both sides, just over the next couple of years as he grows, I think he could potentially be an A to an A plus at one position very quickly.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_00]: I really do, he's unbelievable.
- 5:33[SPEAKER_00]: Now,
- 5:35[SPEAKER_00]: Liam Cohen talked about a lot of other stuff was asked about kind of what he wants more of from Trevor like where he's not getting the job done and and he first said no but then he said we did have a good conversation and I kind of talked to him about you know just letting it rip uh there's there's times when Liam Cohen so they have
- 5:58[SPEAKER_00]: basically retot Trevor Lawrence had to play quarterback in a lot of ways.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_00]: Footwork, mentally, getting through your reads, all that different stuff.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Trevor Lawrence has taken to it well, but it has made him a little bit fearful of making him a mistake because he wants to execute the offense exactly as how it's drawn up.
- 6:17[SPEAKER_00]: but it's difficult to do that at times because it's football, it's an imperfect science, you're not going to have the play coming together exactly as it's drawn up every single time.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_00]: So Liam Cohen wants him to be able to play a little bit more free, not feel so apprehensive about potentially not doing what the play is designed to do, not making the perfect read, right?
- 6:46[SPEAKER_00]: He wants him to let it rip, like make the throw, let the chips fall where they're May.
- 6:54[SPEAKER_00]: Be a little bit more free.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's fair.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
- 6:58[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's fair.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_00]: I think that Trevor Lawrence has been a little bit just trying to be a computer.
- 7:10[SPEAKER_00]: like robotic, you could say, in the way he is trying to execute this new offense, which is a brand new offense.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_00]: They're really, oh, it's your five.
- 7:18[SPEAKER_00]: It's a brand new offense that operates completely different than anything else they've done in Jacksonville before, just be free.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can do that, I think you can get to another level for sure.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_00]: He did talk about, though, you know, Travis Hunter, and he talked after the Raider's game and this team, including Travis Hunter, they just feel so confident that when they get in the two-minute situations, end of half end of game, Trevor Lawrence is going to deliver.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_00]: The offense is going to deliver.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_00]: And they really have outside of, you know, Tuma Adoga's horrible penalty.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_00]: And talked about penalties today too, Liam Condon.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of that horrible penalty, I mean Trevor Lawrence was Nails on that final drive.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_00]: He was Nails against the Bengals, late in the game.
- 8:15[SPEAKER_00]: He was Nails against the Chiefs, late in the game, right?
- 8:19[SPEAKER_00]: All the, like so many games already this year and he did it in 2022, he did it in 2023.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_00]: So to me, one thing you can't really question is Trevor Lawrence late in the game and a half-to-half-it situation, he's been so good in those.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_00]: Um, was asked about, you know, the chargers, their receivers, talked about that a little bit, which is interesting.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Jack Wars, we could love an opponent as the Los Angeles chargers here in Jacksonville.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_00]: Huge game for both teams really.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_00]: The chargers are in second place in their division.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_00]: The Jack Wars are in second place in their division.
- 8:53[SPEAKER_00]: They're both in the wild card right now.
- 8:59[SPEAKER_00]: So huge game.
- 9:01[SPEAKER_00]: But Keenan Allen, uh,
- 9:04[SPEAKER_00]: Liam Cohen said he believes he's the most targeted player in the NFL on third down and they've also got Latman Conki said these guys are great at beating the soft spot in the zone.
- 9:15[SPEAKER_00]: They're great at beating man coverage and I think they're a horrible matchup for the Jaguars.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_00]: I hope I'm wrong and I hope I'm wrong.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can be wrong about that, but the Jaguars have to make some changes in the way they cover, and we'll talk about that too.
- 9:34[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, just generally speaking, it seems like Keenan Allen and Labanconki are pretty bad matchups for the Jaguars past defense.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_00]: Also just Cohen was complimentary of, they're one of the best teams of NFL on third down on both sides, and that's winning time throughout a game.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_00]: If you can execute on third down on both sides of the ball, you are going to win a lot of football games.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_00]: Was asked about kind of the mental and physical response to this loss against the Texans, heart-wrenching and barricing loss to the Texans.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, we need to respond.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_00]: He started talking a little bit about the soul of the sports is team, the connection,
- 10:24[SPEAKER_00]: between the coaches and the players and all the players and other players, like the team, that's what's going to get them over the hump coming off that game, said they're diving into the fundamentals this week.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_00]: He said, whenever you have a tough game like that, the way he knows to get back from it is to dive into the fundamentals, go back to basics, right?
- 10:46[SPEAKER_00]: And speaking of going back to basics, penalties.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_00]: The message from Liam Cohen to the team is the same message that it has been regarding the penalties.
- 10:55[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's not the right message, because it's not working.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_00]: But penalties control the controls.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_00]: They talk about it, they practice it.
- 11:05[SPEAKER_00]: still not happening.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_00]: And I should have followed up with Liam.
- 11:11[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about it in the moment, but like obviously a pre-snap penalty is controllable.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if he thinks like the Chuma adoga penalty at the end of the game was like a controllable one.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_00]: Because obviously it's
- 11:32[SPEAKER_00]: It happened because Tuma Adoga did not execute at right tackle, fundamentally he did not get out of his stance and set properly.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_00]: He oversetted and that gave the Russia a easy lane inside and then he had to try to get back inside, reestablished position, hands got caught up to high, boom, illegal hands to the face.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what Liam would think about that.
- 12:07[SPEAKER_00]: Asked about the Jaguar as come back against the Chargers in 2022, 2022 postseason, unbelievable game.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_00]: He did see that game so cool to see being on the other side of what just happened in Houston.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_00]: and, you know, it can happen, right?
- 12:26[SPEAKER_00]: But kind of took it back to the Houston game with his response saying, what do we learn from this?
- 12:33[SPEAKER_00]: What do we need to confront?
- 12:35[SPEAKER_00]: You can learn and grow more from an embarrassing loss like that than anything else, but you've got to take away from it, the important things and find what you need to take away from it.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_00]: So what do we learn from this?
- 12:46[SPEAKER_00]: What do we need to confront?
- 12:48[SPEAKER_00]: I think these are questions that he's already answered internally and with his team, but that's kind of where they need to grow from that game.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, talked about Britain's strange window, practice window being open up 21-day practice window.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_00]: So he'll return to practice and just kind of see what they can do, see where he's at, see when they can get him back on the field.
- 13:13[SPEAKER_00]: His absence has been one of the bigger
- 13:16[SPEAKER_00]: bigger issues for the Jack Wars just because he's so reliable in so many ways for the offense.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_00]: He's great rum blocker, intensity, really good receiver, all those things.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_00]: So they definitely need him back.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's about what they need to see from why at myelum, and they want to see him get off the ball the way he was getting off the ball and training camp before his injury.
- 13:38[SPEAKER_00]: They want to see it look pain-free.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_00]: So it obviously just means based on what Liam said, is that they still don't feel like he's 100% recovered from his injury and training camp.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_00]: And then last question was from myself, asked about
- 13:57[SPEAKER_00]: The past rush has been a huge talking point for Liam, media, fans, everybody.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_00]: What is his evaluation of how it needs to improve, of how it can get better?
- 14:15[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, he started with, well, you got to be stickier, more patient and coverage.
- 14:24[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like music to my ears because that's what I'm seeing.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_00]: He said, you know, teams are getting the ball out.
- 14:29[SPEAKER_00]: Not necessarily quick game where it's like under two seconds, although Dave has milled at plenty of throws under two seconds, especially down the stretch in the comeback completions under two seconds.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_00]: He had a bunch of them.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_00]: But San there getting the ball out quick, you know, two and a half seconds, two, 0.7 seconds, that range.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a general statement, not just about the Texans, but about like the last month or so.
- 14:53[SPEAKER_00]: And in those situations, you've got to be stickier and more patient as a defensive back as a corner.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_00]: So when the Jaguar's are playing off zone coverage, they have got to try to mirror movements as soon as that receiver is getting out of your, even if you're playing off, you can move forward a step or two and get aggressive and get sticky and then be patient to not bail
- 15:23[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you're bailing out because you don't want to get beat deep.
- 15:29[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you don't have the guys in my opinion on the back end to worry about getting beat deeper.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're getting beat for six, seven, eight yards on these quick throws every single time right now.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_00]: You got to try to take that away.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_00]: And then Liam Cohen also said, you got to finish.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_00]: When you get there, you got to finish.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_00]: And the Jack Wars have struggled with that.
- 15:54[SPEAKER_00]: Trayvon Walker has struggled with that.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Heinz Allen has struggled with that.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_00]: They have not finished these sack opportunities.
- 15:59[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how can you not get this guy down to the ground?
- 16:04[SPEAKER_00]: I know you got some good athletes at quarterback and Justin Herbert certainly wanted them, but they've got to figure out how to tackle quarterbacks.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: how you can't practice that against Trevor Lawrence, but you gotta figure it out.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll do it.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_00]: Really appreciate y'all being here.
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