Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / BONUS: USTFCCCA 2023 LIVE: Marc Bierbaum-Iowa Western CC
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- 0:00Hey gang, you know we like our bonus material.
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- 0:48Here is bonus material. And Speaking of endeavors, let's
- 0:53have our next guest. Why don't you introduce yourself
- 0:55please? Director of the Cross Country
- 0:58and Track program at Iowa Western Community College in.
- 1:00Councils Iowa. So I for people who have been on
- 1:04the podcast before that sit down.
- 1:07I allowed them to flip the script because I grilled them
- 1:09for an hour and a half, two hours.
- 1:12Aaron Robeson was on just a little bit earlier with the
- 1:14associate director of Henry Lace and his flip the script was what
- 1:18are, you know, he's trying to pitch, He's trying to get me.
- 1:21What's your favorite annual track needs?
- 1:25And so, you know, mine were, you know, I love the pre classic, I
- 1:29love the Division One indoor championships.
- 1:33And my third was whether it's indoor or outdoor was the junior
- 1:36college national championship. It's just my my heart is in
- 1:40those kids that second chances weren't good enough out of high
- 1:43school, We're told they weren't good enough academically needed
- 1:46second, third, you know, I probably needed five chances.
- 1:49So it really it's a, it's a meet that it's a system that means a
- 1:53lot to me. What has been your you weren't
- 1:55always a junior college. No coach, talk to us about your
- 1:58experience. Why are you?
- 2:00Why are you a junior college? Coach why I western kind of
- 2:04happened because it's it's where I'm from.
- 2:07I'm from that area, but I don't know it just happened.
- 2:11I I coach and AI have coached high school, I've coached D1,
- 2:15I've coached D2 and did. You coach what?
- 2:19Happened. I have not a real reason per SE.
- 2:23Coaching is coaching to me and, and I just, I don't care where
- 2:29it is. I just would coach.
- 2:30And this has been probably the most eye opening experience and
- 2:37the most knowledge I've gained from coaching has been these six
- 2:40years. I, I, I have absolutely no doubt
- 2:42I, I would have been a better coach in all those other
- 2:45positions if I would have been. Here first.
- 2:49Why so? There's.
- 2:52Oh goodness. You asked it, I said it, and
- 2:54then you asked it. Just the situations that I've
- 3:00had to. Grow from and and.
- 3:04Learn and build the the connections.
- 3:11There's so many more connections involved.
- 3:13I, you know, I'm not just recruiting athletes, I'm also
- 3:15helping my athletes. Get yeah.
- 3:19That has been an interesting experience in learning from and
- 3:25and the development is different.
- 3:27And you know, I've got to develop kids in two years,
- 3:29right? Yeah.
- 3:30That's right to. Find you know, find their home
- 3:32or to make you know, score points at nationals or regionals
- 3:37or. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:41I, you know, a high school coach has a really tough job.
- 3:44You know, they're usually a teacher and a family coaching
- 3:48and they're always trying to get their kids recruited to the next
- 3:50level or even beyond recruiting, get them to the next level to go
- 3:54to college, right? A four year coach has a
- 3:57tremendously hard job. They're always coaching young
- 3:59people. They're always recruiting to
- 4:01their team. The junior college coach, you
- 4:04have to do both every single year.
- 4:06You're always recruiting and you're always helping them to
- 4:09get recruited. Man, yeah, it's it's nonstop.
- 4:13It's. Both ways and.
- 4:16It's thinking, not just the the recruiting part of getting them.
- 4:21Out is also. Thinking about the race strategy
- 4:23and where they're going to fit best and finding that quickly
- 4:27and learning where that's going to be and and then trying to
- 4:31figure out, you know, everybody's got their dream
- 4:33schools and is that dream school right Fit it heal us as junior
- 4:39colleges because of these connections.
- 4:41This convention, a perfect example because of the
- 4:44communication we have with the four year school, gives us
- 4:48better insights on what that fit could be for that athlete, even
- 4:54though they may have a different idea.
- 4:55Right, right. Different.
- 4:57Sense. Yeah, no, it does because, you
- 5:00know, I'm still amazed that we force 18 year olds to pick a
- 5:05major that will affect them the rest of their lives.
- 5:08Like when you're 18, you don't know what underwear you want to
- 5:10put on today. I mean, what in the world do we
- 5:12do? It's it's really a kind of a
- 5:13whack. Like when you take a step back
- 5:14and think about it, that's what to do.
- 5:17So when they're trying to pick the school that they think is
- 5:19the school they want to go to or the location they want to go to
- 5:21or the level they think they might be aspired to, Wait.
- 5:25There's nothing better than mentors and people that have
- 5:27done it before and do better than a junior college coach
- 5:29who's done this Many, many, many there's so.
- 5:34Much growth and difference between 17 and 18 in 20 and 20.
- 5:40One. Yeah.
- 5:40Oh oh. Yeah, like your whole idea of
- 5:43the. World is different.
- 5:46Athletics, Academics. Social.
- 5:49Any of them into you? Know so picking that picking
- 5:53those colleges at that age, it's just a different view and then
- 5:57you know you look at the junior college side of it when you go
- 6:01and run these meets as a junior college athlete, you also are
- 6:04looking you're running against D1, you're running against D2.
- 6:07We're not running just. Right, right.
- 6:09We're. Running against all the
- 6:10different divisions, so then you're also seeing college track
- 6:13upfront. You're almost.
- 6:14On a free college visit for all these schools.
- 6:17To see them compete. You're competing against them,
- 6:20you're going to the facilities and you're warming up on their
- 6:24on their campus. And all that and.
- 6:27And you when you go on these visits on.
- 6:33Perfect behavior. Yeah.
- 6:36Yeah, now you got to meet. This guys yelling at, you know,
- 6:39this guy yelling at their athletes, maybe they're this or
- 6:44maybe they're athletes or this or that.
- 6:46Different perspective. You know, you and I and fellow
- 6:51friend of ours, D Ground talks a lot about, you know, there's
- 6:54some upcoming projects to work. On here.
- 6:57What do you you know, as we start to wrap up here a little
- 6:59bit today, what's the? What's the?
- 7:01Top misconception about junior colleges that you kind of see
- 7:06over and over and you're like kind of banging your head
- 7:07against the wall of like, man, if they would just know that
- 7:09it's really this. Not that there's there's,
- 7:13there's a few, but one I would one I'll touch on right now
- 7:16because it's on my head would be the level, the level I, you
- 7:20know, everybody wants to think of D1D2D3 any, you know, any IG,
- 7:25but where, how do they want to label it?
- 7:27D1's here. OK, cool.
- 7:30You're right. D1's really high end.
- 7:33But if you come to the Jubilee national meet or if you look at
- 7:36T first page, there's a lot of high schoolers doing what that
- 7:40is. That's the athletic net of
- 7:41college. You're going to see some time
- 7:46jumps and that you don't. It's the level.
- 7:50The level is so high, but basically.
- 7:52It's. Very high.
- 7:53And that's one big misconception that I think and the other one I
- 7:58would say is that there's this negative connotation about what
- 8:02Jupo is and you know, only kids don't have grades and that's
- 8:07just not true. We we have.
- 8:09We have. High ACT scores, we have this.
- 8:12With that, there's so many different up your draft stock.
- 8:17So to speak. Maybe there's a school you want
- 8:19to get into and they're they're not letting you on the roster,
- 8:21they're not giving you a scholarship.
- 8:23You come to, you get better, and then you make them give that to.
- 8:27You well, stay tuned because we're going to have some things
- 8:32coming up that I want to dive into here on the podcast and
- 8:36some other forms and fashions about the junior college system.
- 8:40You know, there's a lot of topics that we can't get into
- 8:42tonight with public transfer portal and things like that,
- 8:44that, you know, we need to make sure every high school coach
- 8:49I've ever talked to will say I do it for the kids.
- 8:52I I want them to go where they are best suited for and I think.
- 8:55We need. To make.
- 8:56Sure. That they understand that junior
- 8:58college is the right route for a lot of kids.
- 9:01I mean, it's, it's not the right route for every kid, just like
- 9:03Division One is not the right route for every kid.
- 9:06But it is absolutely a viable option.
- 9:09I think we need to maybe take a, a harder look into as high
- 9:11school coaches about it. All right, Mark, I've got 100
- 9:14random questions here, and they're they're random, my
- 9:17friend. I remember mine last year.
- 9:19Yeah, one day. Don't pick that one.
- 9:20One through 100. You get to pick the number, I
- 9:22get to ask the question. 2. #288 MPH.
- 9:27Even then at time travel, what are the rules in your time
- 9:30travel universe? You know, there's the Back to
- 9:38the Future where if you do something in the past, it'll
- 9:42mess like you, you know, remember his, his picture was
- 9:44erasing his, his image was erasing from the picture because
- 9:47he met his mom as well. Don't love it.
- 9:49There's the Marvel Universe, which creates a whole separate
- 9:52branch of the timeline. What are your rules?
- 9:56What are you doing in your time travel machine?
- 10:00I said they were in. Yeah, can't go, can't go back
- 10:05further than 100 years. Oh.
- 10:07So you can't mess up multi generation and you can only mess
- 10:10up basically generational. Sounds.
- 10:12Right. That's actually a pretty good.
- 10:13I was trying. You probably just named the
- 10:16Marvel movie theme in 2026. We'll get to something like
- 10:20that. That was good.
- 10:22I put you on the spot. I appreciate that.
- 10:24To do that. For doing that, I for everybody
- 10:27who sits in the hot seat today, and it was the hot seat.
- 10:29You had to think about that. That was good.
- 10:30You're going to go home. You're going to call me like in
- 10:31a week back. All right, here's my rules, man.
- 10:33I was thinking about it. We've got a custom Christmas
- 10:37ornament for the deal. Connections.
- 10:38Podcast only podcast guests are getting, man.
- 10:40So I don't want to see that on eBay.
- 10:41Oh no. Be on the Christmas.
- 10:44Tree Alright, thank you so much. Thank you, appreciate everything
- 10:46you do Thank you, thank you. Hey, again, I'm super blessed
- 10:50and honored that that I coach junior college track and you
- 10:54know, I'm telling you it is an option for for a lot of your
- 10:58kids. We need to make sure we're
- 10:59taking a look at it academically, athletically,
- 11:01location wise, cost wise, etcetera.
- 11:05I think it's, I know it's a valuable option.
- 11:07I coached it for a year. Heck, I've got a great junior
- 11:09college where we live here in Champaign, IL, the athletics and
- 11:12I hope my kids honestly go to Parkland Community College
- 11:15because I don't want to pay a lot for their for their college.
- 11:17That's really where I want them to go for college.