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- 0:14Speaker 1: by expatriate in Bangor, Maine. The Clouds by Aristophanes, translated
- 0:21Speaker 1: by William James Hickey, Part one scene the interior of
- 0:27Speaker 1: a sleeping apartment. Strepsiades, Phydipodies and two servants are in
- 0:32Speaker 1: their beds. A small house is seen at a distance.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Time midnight, Strepsieties sitting up in his bed. Ah me
- 0:41Speaker 1: ah me o, King Jupiter, of what a terrible length
- 0:44Speaker 1: the knights are? Will it never be day? And yet
- 0:47Speaker 1: long since I heard the cock, my domestics are snoring,
- 0:51Speaker 1: But they would not have done so, Heretofore, may you perish,
- 0:54Speaker 1: then O war for many reasons, because I may not
- 0:57Speaker 1: even punish my domestics, neither do does this excellent youth
- 1:01Speaker 1: awake through the night, but takes his ease wrapped up
- 1:04Speaker 1: in five blankets. Well, if it is the fashion, let
- 1:07Speaker 1: us snore wrapped up, lies down, and then almost immediately
- 1:12Speaker 1: starts up again. But I am not able miserable men
- 1:16Speaker 1: to sleep being tormented by my expenses and my stud
- 1:20Speaker 1: of horses and my debts through the sun of mine,
- 1:23Speaker 1: He with his long hair as riding horses and driving
- 1:26Speaker 1: curricles and dreaming of horses, while I am driven to
- 1:30Speaker 1: distraction as I see the moon bringing on the twentieths.
- 1:34Speaker 1: For the interest is running on. Boy, light a lamp
- 1:37Speaker 1: and bring forth my tablets that I may take them
- 1:40Speaker 1: and read to how many I am indebted? And calculate
- 1:43Speaker 1: the interest? Enter, boy with the light and tablets. Come,
- 1:47Speaker 1: let me see what do I owe? Twelve minnight to Passeas?
- 1:52Speaker 1: Why twelve minnight to Passas? Why did I borrow them?
- 1:55Speaker 1: When I bought a blood horse? Ah me unhappy that
- 2:00Speaker 1: it had had its eye knocked out with a stone. First, Phidipities,
- 2:05Speaker 1: talking in his sleep, you are acting unfairly, Philo. Drive
- 2:09Speaker 1: on your own course, Strepsiades. This is the bane that
- 2:13Speaker 1: has destroyed me. For even in his sleep he dreams
- 2:16Speaker 1: about horsemanship, Fidipities, How many courses will the war chariots run, Strepsiades,
- 2:24Speaker 1: many courses? Do you drive me? Your father? But what
- 2:27Speaker 1: debt came upon me? After passus? Three menai to Ominius
- 2:31Speaker 1: for a little chariot and pair of wheels. Fidipities lead
- 2:35Speaker 1: the horse home after having given him a good rolling Stepsieties, Oh,
- 2:41Speaker 1: foolish youth, you have rolled me out of my possessions
- 2:44Speaker 1: since I have been cast in suits, and others say
- 2:47Speaker 1: that they will have shorty given them for the interest.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Phidipities awakening, pray, father, why are you peevish and toss
- 2:55Speaker 1: about the whole night? Strepsieties a bailiff out of the bedclothes,
- 3:00Speaker 1: biting me. Phydipities, suffer me, good sir, to sleep a
- 3:04Speaker 1: little Strepsiades, Then do you sleep on, but know that
- 3:08Speaker 1: all these debts will turn on your head. Phydipities falls
- 3:13Speaker 1: asleep again, alas would that the matchmaker had perished miserably?
- 3:18Speaker 1: Who induced me to marry your mother? For a country
- 3:21Speaker 1: life used to be most agreeable to me? Dirty, untrimmed,
- 3:26Speaker 1: reclining at random, abounding in bees and sheep and oil cake.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Then I, a rustic, married a Nis of Megacles, the
- 3:34Speaker 1: son of Megacles, from the city, haughty, luxurious, and keyserified.
- 3:39Speaker 1: When I married her, I lay with her redlin of
- 3:42Speaker 1: new wine, of the cheese crate, and abundance of wool.
- 3:46Speaker 1: But she, on the contrary of ointment, saffron, wanton kisses, extravagance, gluttony,
- 3:52Speaker 1: and of colias and genitilis. I will not indeed say
- 3:55Speaker 1: that she was idle, but she wove, and I used
- 3:58Speaker 1: to show her this cloak by way of a pretext,
- 4:01Speaker 1: and say, wife, you weave at a great rate. Servant,
- 4:05Speaker 1: re enters, Servant, we have no oil in the lamp, Strepsiades,
- 4:10Speaker 1: ah me, why did you light the thirsty lamp? Come
- 4:13Speaker 1: hither that you may weep? Servant? For what pray? Shall
- 4:17Speaker 1: I weep? Strepsiades, because you put in one of the
- 4:21Speaker 1: thick wicks. Servant runs out? After this, when the sun
- 4:26Speaker 1: was born, to us, to me forsooth, and to my
- 4:28Speaker 1: excellent wife. We squabbled then about the name, for she
- 4:32Speaker 1: was for adding Hippos to the name Xanthippis or Chippis
- 4:37Speaker 1: or Callipides, but I was forgiving him the name of
- 4:40Speaker 1: his grandfather Phidonides. For a time therefore we disputed, and
- 4:45Speaker 1: then at length we agreed and called him Phydipides. She
- 4:48Speaker 1: used to take this sun and fondle him, saying, when you,
- 4:51Speaker 1: being grown up, shall drive your chariot to the cities
- 4:54Speaker 1: like megacles with Axistus. But I used to say, nay, Rather,
- 4:59Speaker 1: when rest in a leathern jerkin, you shall drive goats
- 5:02Speaker 1: from Faalius like your father. He paid no attention to
- 5:06Speaker 1: my words, but poured a horse fever over my property. Now, therefore,
- 5:10Speaker 1: by meditating the whole night, I had discovered one path
- 5:14Speaker 1: from my course extraordinarily excellent, to which, if I persuade
- 5:18Speaker 1: this youth, I shall be saved. But first I wish
- 5:20Speaker 1: to awake him. How then can I awaken him in
- 5:23Speaker 1: the most agreeable manner? How? Phidipdies, my little Phidipidies, phidipdies?
- 5:30Speaker 1: What father, Strepsiades, kiss me and give me your right hand,
- 5:35Speaker 1: Phidipities there, what's the matter, Strepsiodes, tell me, do you
- 5:41Speaker 1: love me, Phidipities, Yes, by this equestrian Neptune. Strepsiades, nay,
- 5:47Speaker 1: do not by any means mention this equestrian to me,
- 5:51Speaker 1: for this God is the author of my misfortunes. But
- 5:54Speaker 1: if you really love me from your heart, my son,
- 5:57Speaker 1: obey me, Fidipities in what then? Pray? Shall I obey you? Strepsiades,
- 6:03Speaker 1: reform your habits as quickly as possible, and go and
- 6:07Speaker 1: learn what I advise fidipities. Tell me now, what do
- 6:11Speaker 1: you prescribe, Strepsiades, And will you obey me at all?
- 6:15Speaker 1: Phidipities by bacchus, I will obey you. Stepsides. Look this way,
- 6:21Speaker 1: then you see this little door and little house, Fidipities,
- 6:25Speaker 1: I see it? What, then, pray? Is this, father, Strepsiades,
- 6:29Speaker 1: This is a thinking shop of wise spirits. There dwell
- 6:33Speaker 1: men who, in speaking of the heavens, persuade people that
- 6:36Speaker 1: it is an oven, and that it encompasses us, and
- 6:39Speaker 1: that we are the embers. These men teach if one
- 6:42Speaker 1: give them money to conquer in speaking right or wrong fidipities.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Who are they, Strepsiades, I do not know the name accurately.
- 6:51Speaker 1: They are minute philosophers, noble and excellent fidipities. Bah, they
- 6:57Speaker 1: are rogues, I know them. You mean the quack, the
- 7:00Speaker 1: pale faced wretches, the barefooted fellows, of whose numbers are
- 7:04Speaker 1: the miserable Socrates and Chirophon. Strepsiades. Hold, hold, be silent,
- 7:10Speaker 1: do not say anything foolish, But if you have any
- 7:13Speaker 1: concern for your father's patrimony, become one of them. Having
- 7:17Speaker 1: given up your horsemanship, Phidipdies, I would not, by Bacchus,
- 7:22Speaker 1: even if you were to give me the pheasants which
- 7:23Speaker 1: Leogoris rears Strepsiades. Go, I entreat you, dearest of men,
- 7:30Speaker 1: go and be taught Phidipities. Why what shall I learn, Strepsiades.
- 7:36Speaker 1: They say that among them are both the two causes,
- 7:40Speaker 1: the better cause, whichever that is, and the worse. They
- 7:43Speaker 1: say that the one of these two causes the worst prevails,
- 7:47Speaker 1: though it speaks on the unjust side. If therefore you
- 7:50Speaker 1: learn from me this unjust cause, I would not pay anyone,
- 7:54Speaker 1: not even an ogulus of these depths which I owe
- 7:56Speaker 1: at present on your account. Fidipities, I cannot comply, for
- 8:01Speaker 1: I should not dare to look upon the knights, having
- 8:04Speaker 1: lost all my color. Strepsieties. Then, by Ceres, you shall
- 8:08Speaker 1: not eat any of my good neither you nor your
- 8:11Speaker 1: blood horse. But I will drive you out of my
- 8:13Speaker 1: house to the crows. Phidipities. My uncle Megacles will not
- 8:18Speaker 1: permit me to be without a horse, But I'll go
- 8:20Speaker 1: in and pay no heed to you. Exit, Phidipdies, Strepsieties.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Though fallen still, I will not lie prostrate, but having
- 8:29Speaker 1: prayed to the gods, I will go myself to the
- 8:32Speaker 1: thinking shop and get taught. How then, being an old man,
- 8:36Speaker 1: shall I learn the subtleties of refined disquisitions? I must go?
- 8:40Speaker 1: Why thus do I loiter and not knock at the door?
- 8:44Speaker 1: Knocks at the door? Boy, little boy, disciple from within,
- 8:49Speaker 1: Go to the devil? Who it is that knocked at
- 8:51Speaker 1: the door? Strepsiades, Strepsiades, the son of Phidan of Sekinna, Disciple,
- 8:58Speaker 1: you are a stupid fellow by Jove, who have kicked
- 9:01Speaker 1: against the door so very carelessly, and have caused the
- 9:04Speaker 1: miscarriage of an idea which I had conceived. Strepsiodes, pardon me,
- 9:10Speaker 1: for I dwell afar in the country. But tell me
- 9:13Speaker 1: the thing which has been made to miscarry, Disciple. It
- 9:16Speaker 1: is not lawful to mention it except to disciples. Strepsiades,
- 9:21Speaker 1: Tell it then to me without fear, for I hear him.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Come as a disciple to the thinking shop. Disciple, I
- 9:27Speaker 1: will tell you, but you must regard these as mysteries.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Socrates lately asked Chyrophon about a flea how many of
- 9:34Speaker 1: its own feet it jumped? For, after having bit the
- 9:37Speaker 1: eyebrow of Chirophon, it leaped away onto the head of
- 9:41Speaker 1: Socrates Strepsieodies, How then did he measure this disciple? Most
- 9:47Speaker 1: cleverly he melted some wax, and then took the flea
- 9:50Speaker 1: and dipped its feet in the wax, And then a
- 9:52Speaker 1: pair of Persian slippers stuck to it. When cooled, Having
- 9:56Speaker 1: gently loosened these, he measured back the distance. Strepsiades, Oh,
- 10:02Speaker 1: King Jupiter, what subtlety of thought? Disciple? What then would
- 10:07Speaker 1: you say if you heard another contrivance of Socrates Strepsiades,
- 10:11Speaker 1: of what kind? Tell me? I beseech you? Disciple? Chirophon,
- 10:16Speaker 1: the Sptian asked him whether he thought gnats buzzed through
- 10:19Speaker 1: the mouth or the breech. Strepsiades, what then did he
- 10:22Speaker 1: say about the gnat? Disciple? He said, the intestine of
- 10:26Speaker 1: the gnat was narrow, and that the wind went forcibly
- 10:29Speaker 1: through it, being slender, straight to the breach. And then
- 10:33Speaker 1: that the rump, being hollow where it is adjacent to
- 10:36Speaker 1: the narrow part, resounded through the violence of the wind. Strepsiades,
- 10:41Speaker 1: the rump of the gnats, then is a trumpet, Oh thrice?
- 10:45Speaker 1: Happy he for his sharp sightedness, surely a defendant might
- 10:49Speaker 1: easily get acquitted. Who understands the intestine of the gnat, Disciple?
- 10:54Speaker 1: But he was lately deprived of a great idea by
- 10:57Speaker 1: a lizard. Strepsiades, in what way tell me, Disciple? As
- 11:02Speaker 1: he was investigating the courses of the moon in her revolutions,
- 11:06Speaker 1: then as he was gaping upward, a lizard in the
- 11:09Speaker 1: darkness dropped upon him from the roof, Strepsiades, I am
- 11:13Speaker 1: amused at a lizard's having dropped on Socrates, disciple. Yesterday
- 11:19Speaker 1: evening there was no supper for us, Stripsieties, Well, what
- 11:23Speaker 1: then did he contrive for provisions? Disciple? He sprinkled fine
- 11:27Speaker 1: ashes on the table, and bent a little spit, and
- 11:30Speaker 1: then took it as a pair of compasses, and filched
- 11:33Speaker 1: a cloak from the palestra. Strepsiades, why then do we
- 11:37Speaker 1: admire Thley's open quickly the thinking shop and showed to
- 11:42Speaker 1: me Socrates as quickly as possible for I desire to
- 11:45Speaker 1: be a disciple, Come open the door. The door of
- 11:49Speaker 1: the thinking shop opens, and the pupils of Socrates are seen,
- 11:53Speaker 1: all with their heads fixed on the ground, while Socrates
- 11:57Speaker 1: himself is seen suspended in the air in a basket,
- 12:00Speaker 1: oh hercules. From what country are these wild beasts? Disciple,
- 12:05Speaker 1: what do you wonder at to what do they seem
- 12:08Speaker 1: to you to be like strepsieties to the Spartans who
- 12:12Speaker 1: were taken at Pyloss. But why in the world do
- 12:14Speaker 1: these look upon the ground? Disciple? They are in search
- 12:18Speaker 1: of the things below the earth. Strepsieties. Then they are
- 12:22Speaker 1: searching for roots. Do not then trouble yourselves about this,
- 12:26Speaker 1: for I know where there are large and fine ones.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Why what are these doing who are bent down so much? Disciple?
- 12:33Speaker 1: These are groping about in darkness under Tartarus strepsiades. Why
- 12:38Speaker 1: then does their rump look toward heaven? Disciple, it is
- 12:42Speaker 1: getting taught astronomy alone by itself. Turning to the pupils.
- 12:46Speaker 1: But go in lest he meet with us Strepsieties. Not yet,
- 12:50Speaker 1: not yet, But let them remain that I may communicate
- 12:53Speaker 1: to them a little matter of my own Disciple. It
- 12:56Speaker 1: is not permitted to them to remain without in the
- 12:59Speaker 1: open air for a very long time. The pupils retire
- 13:03Speaker 1: strepsieties discovering a variety of mathematical instruments. Why what is this?
- 13:09Speaker 1: In the name of Heaven? Tell me, Disciple, this is
- 13:12Speaker 1: astronomy Strepsieties. But what is this disciple geometry strepsieties? What then,
- 13:19Speaker 1: is the use of this disciple to measure out the
- 13:22Speaker 1: land Strepsieties? What belongs to an allotment? Disciple? No, but
- 13:27Speaker 1: the whole earth Strepsieties. You tell me a clever notion,
- 13:32Speaker 1: for the contrivance is democratic and useful. Disciple, pointing to
- 13:36Speaker 1: a map. See, here's a map of the whole earth.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Do you see this is Athens Strepsieties? What say you?
- 13:43Speaker 1: I don't believe you, for I do not see the
- 13:45Speaker 1: die cast sitting disciple, be assured that this is truly
- 13:49Speaker 1: the attic territory Strepsieties. Why where are my fellow tribesmen
- 13:54Speaker 1: of Sekinna? Disciple? Here they are, and you boya here
- 13:59Speaker 1: as you see stretched out a long way by the
- 14:01Speaker 1: side of it, to a great distance Strepsiades. I know that,
- 14:06Speaker 1: for it was stretched by us and Pericles. But where
- 14:09Speaker 1: is lacedaemon? Disciple? Where is it? Here it is, Strepsiades,
- 14:15Speaker 1: how near it is to us? Pay great attention to
- 14:17Speaker 1: this to remove it very far from us? Disciple, by Jupiter,
- 14:22Speaker 1: it is not possible, Strepsieties. Then you will weep for it,
- 14:26Speaker 1: looking up and discovering. Socrates. Come, who is this man
- 14:30Speaker 1: who is in the basket? Disciple himself, Strepsiades, who's himself disciple, Socrates? Strepsiades, Oh, Socrates,
- 14:42Speaker 1: come you, sir, call upon him loudly for me, disciple. Nay,
- 14:46Speaker 1: rather call him yourself, for I have no leisure, exit, disciple, Strepsiades, Socrates,
- 14:54Speaker 1: my little Socrates, Socrates, Why callest thou me, thou creature
- 14:59Speaker 1: of a day? Strepsietes. First tell me, I beseech you.
- 15:03Speaker 1: What are you doing, Socrates? I am walking in the
- 15:06Speaker 1: air and speculating about the sun, Strepsiades. And so you
- 15:11Speaker 1: look down upon the gods from your basket and not
- 15:14Speaker 1: from the earth, Socrates. For I should not have rightly
- 15:17Speaker 1: discovered things celestial if I had not suspended the intellect
- 15:21Speaker 1: and mixed the thought in a subtle form with its
- 15:24Speaker 1: kindred air. But if being on the ground, I speculated
- 15:28Speaker 1: from below on things above, I should never have discovered them.
- 15:32Speaker 1: For the earth, forcibly, attracts to itself the meditative moisture.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Watercresses also suffer the very same thing, Strepsiades, What do
- 15:41Speaker 1: you say, does meditation attract the moisture to the watercresses. Come, then,
- 15:46Speaker 1: my little Socrates, descend to me, that you may teach
- 15:49Speaker 1: me those things for the sake of which I have come.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Socrates lowers himself and gets out of the basket. Socrates,
- 15:57Speaker 1: and for what did you come Stpi wishing to learn
- 16:01Speaker 1: to speak? For by reason of usury and most ill
- 16:05Speaker 1: natured creditors, I am pillaged and plundered, and have my
- 16:09Speaker 1: goods sees for debt, Socrates? How did you get in
- 16:12Speaker 1: debt without observing it? Strepsiodes, a horse disease consumed me
- 16:19Speaker 1: terrible at eating. But teach me the other one of
- 16:21Speaker 1: your two causes, that which pays nothing, And I will
- 16:24Speaker 1: swear by the gods. I will pay down to you
- 16:27Speaker 1: whatever reward you exact of me. Socrates, by what gods
- 16:31Speaker 1: will you swear for? In the first place, gods are
- 16:34Speaker 1: not a current coin with us strpscieties. By what do
- 16:38Speaker 1: you swear by iron money? As in byzantium? Socrates? Do
- 16:43Speaker 1: you wish to know clearly celestial matters what they rightly are? Strpsciades, Yes,
- 16:48Speaker 1: by Jupiter, if it be possible, Socrates, And to hold
- 16:52Speaker 1: converse with the clouds are divinities Strepsiades, by all means, Socrates,
- 16:58Speaker 1: with great solemnity, seat yourself. Then upon the sacred couch, Strepsieties.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Well I am seated, Socrates. Take then this chaplet Strepsieties,
- 17:10Speaker 1: for what purpose a chaplet? Ah me? Socrates, See that
- 17:14Speaker 1: you do not sacrifice me like Athemus, Socrates. No, we
- 17:18Speaker 1: do all these to those who get initiated Strepsieties. Then
- 17:22Speaker 1: what shall I gain? Prey, Socrates, you shall become an oratory,
- 17:27Speaker 1: a tricky knave, a thorough rattle, a subtle speaker. But
- 17:31Speaker 1: keep quiet Strepsieties. By Jupiter, you will not deceive me.
- 17:36Speaker 1: For if I am besprinkled, I shall become fine flower. Socrates.
- 17:40Speaker 1: It becomes the old man to speak words of good
- 17:43Speaker 1: omen and to hearken to my prayer, O, Sovereign King,
- 17:46Speaker 1: immeasurable Air, who keepeth the earth suspended, And through bright ether,
- 17:51Speaker 1: and Ye August Goddesses, the clouds sending thunder and lightning
- 17:55Speaker 1: arise appear in the air, O Mistresses, to your deep thinker, Strepsiades.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Not yet, not yet till I wrap this around me,
- 18:04Speaker 1: lest I be wet through to think of my having
- 18:06Speaker 1: come from home without even a cap unlucky man, Socrates, Come, then,
- 18:11Speaker 1: ye highly honored clouds, for a display to this man,
- 18:15Speaker 1: whether ye are sitting upon the sacred snow covered summits
- 18:19Speaker 1: of Olympus, or in the gardens of Father Ocean, form
- 18:22Speaker 1: a sacred dance with the nymphs, or draw in golden
- 18:25Speaker 1: pitchers the streams of the waters of the Nile, or
- 18:28Speaker 1: inhabit the meotic Lake or the snowy rock of mimas
- 18:32Speaker 1: hearken to our prayer and receive the sacrifice, and be
- 18:36Speaker 1: propitious to the sacred rites. The following song is heard
- 18:40Speaker 1: at a distance, accompanied by loud claps of thunder chorus.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Eternal Clouds, Let us arise to view with our dewy, clear,
- 18:49Speaker 1: bright nature from loud sounding Father Ocean to the wood
- 18:53Speaker 1: crowned summits of the lofty mountains, in order that we
- 18:57Speaker 1: may behold clearly the far seen watch towers and the fruits,
- 19:01Speaker 1: and the fostering sacred earth, and the rushing sounds of
- 19:04Speaker 1: the divine rivers, and the roaring, loud sounding sea, where
- 19:08Speaker 1: the unwearied eye of Ether sparkles with glittering rays. Come,
- 19:13Speaker 1: let us shake off the watery cloud from our immortal
- 19:16Speaker 1: forms and survey the earth with far seeing eye. Socrates,
- 19:21Speaker 1: oh ye, greatly venerable clouds, Ye have clearly heard me
- 19:25Speaker 1: when I called, turning to Strepsiades. Did you hear the
- 19:29Speaker 1: voice and the thunder which bellowed at the same time
- 19:32Speaker 1: feared as a god Strepsiades, I too worship you, oh ye,
- 19:37Speaker 1: highly honored, and am inclined to reply to the thundering.
- 19:41Speaker 1: So much do I tremble at them and am alarmed.
- 19:44Speaker 1: And whether it be lawful or be not lawful, I
- 19:46Speaker 1: have a desire just now to ease myself. Socrates, don't
- 19:50Speaker 1: scoff nor do what these poor devil poets do, but
- 19:53Speaker 1: use words of good omen, for a great swarm of
- 19:56Speaker 1: goddesses is in motion with their songs chorus, ye, rain
- 20:01Speaker 1: bringing virgins. Let us come to the fruitful land of Pallace,
- 20:05Speaker 1: to view the much loved country of sea crops abounding
- 20:08Speaker 1: in brave men. Where is reverence for sacred rights not
- 20:12Speaker 1: to be divulged, Where the house that receives the initiated
- 20:15Speaker 1: is thrown open in holy mystic rites and gifts to
- 20:19Speaker 1: the celestial gods, and high roofed temples and statues, and
- 20:23Speaker 1: most sacred processions in honor of the blessed gods, and
- 20:27Speaker 1: well crowned sacrifices to the Gods, and feasts at all seasons,
- 20:31Speaker 1: and with the approach of spring, the bacchic festivity, and
- 20:34Speaker 1: the rousings of melodious choruses, and the loud sounding music
- 20:38Speaker 1: of flutes. Strepsiadies, tell me of Socrates. I beseech you,
- 20:43Speaker 1: by Jupiter? Who are these that have uttered this grand song?
- 20:46Speaker 1: Are they some heroines? Socrates? By no means, but heavenly
- 20:51Speaker 1: clouds great divinities to idle men, who supply us with
- 20:55Speaker 1: thought and argument, and intelligence, and humbug and circumlocution, and
- 20:59Speaker 1: ability to hoax and comprehension. Strepsieties. On this account, therefore
- 21:05Speaker 1: my soul, having heard their voice, flutters and already seeks
- 21:09Speaker 1: to discourse subtlely, and to quibble about smoke, and having
- 21:13Speaker 1: pricked a maxim with a little notion to refute the
- 21:15Speaker 1: opposite argument, So that now I eagerly desire, if by
- 21:19Speaker 1: any means it be possible to see them palpably Socrates.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Look then hither toward Mount Parnas. For now I behold
- 21:27Speaker 1: them descending gently, Strepsieties. Pray, where show me Socrates. See
- 21:34Speaker 1: there they come in great numbers through the hollows and thickets.
- 21:37Speaker 1: They're obliquely strepsieties. What's the matter, for I can't see them, Socrates,
- 21:43Speaker 1: by the entrance, enter chorus. Strepsieties. Now at length, with difficulty,
- 21:49Speaker 1: I just see them, Socrates, Now at length, you assuredly
- 21:53Speaker 1: see them, unless you have your eyes running pumpkins. Strepsieties. Yes,
- 21:58Speaker 1: by Jupiter, oh hi, honored clouds. For now they cover
- 22:01Speaker 1: all things, Socrates. Did you not, however, know nor yet
- 22:06Speaker 1: consider these to be goddesses strepscieties, No, by Jupiter, but
- 22:11Speaker 1: I thought them to be missed and dew and smoke, Socrates.
- 22:15Speaker 1: For you do not know, by Jupiter, that these feed
- 22:18Speaker 1: very many sophists, Thurian soothsayers, practicers of medicine, lazy, long
- 22:24Speaker 1: haired onyx ring wearers, song twisters, for the cyclic dances
- 22:28Speaker 1: and meteorological quacks. They feed idle people who do nothing,
- 22:32Speaker 1: because such men celebrate them in verse Strepsieties. For this reason,
- 22:37Speaker 1: then they introduced into their verses the dreadful impetuosity of
- 22:41Speaker 1: the moist, whirling bright clouds, and the curls of hundred
- 22:45Speaker 1: headed Typho, and the hard blowing tempests, and then aerial
- 22:49Speaker 1: moist crooked clawed birds floating in air, and the showers
- 22:53Speaker 1: of rain from dewy clouds. And then in return for
- 22:56Speaker 1: these they swallow slices of grape, fine mullets, and birds
- 23:00Speaker 1: flush of thrushes. Socrates, is it not just, however, that
- 23:05Speaker 1: they should have their reward on account of these Strepsiades?
- 23:09Speaker 1: Tell me, pray, if they are really clouds, what ails them?
- 23:13Speaker 1: That they resemble mortal women? For they are not such? Socrates? Pray,
- 23:18Speaker 1: of what nature are they? Strepsiades, I do not clearly
- 23:22Speaker 1: know at any rate. They resemble spread out fleeces, and
- 23:25Speaker 1: not women, by Jupiter, not a bit, for these have noses, Socrates.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Answer them? Whatever I ask you, Strepsieties, then say quickly
- 23:35Speaker 1: what you wish, Socrates? Have you ever when you looked
- 23:39Speaker 1: up seen a cloud like to a centaur, or a panther,
- 23:42Speaker 1: or a wolf, or a bowl stripscietes by Jupiter? Have I? Well?
- 23:46Speaker 1: What of that? Socrates? They become all things whatever they please.
- 23:51Speaker 1: And then if they see a person with long hair,
- 23:53Speaker 1: a wild one of these hairy fellows, like the son
- 23:56Speaker 1: of Xenophantes, in derision of his folly, they liken themselves
- 23:59Speaker 1: to say, centaurs, Strepsiades, Why what if they should see Simon,
- 24:04Speaker 1: a plunderer of the public property, what do they do, Socrates?
- 24:08Speaker 1: They suddenly become wolves, showing up his disposition, Strepsiades. For
- 24:13Speaker 1: this reason, then, for this reason, when they yesterday saw
- 24:17Speaker 1: Cleonymus the recreant, on this account, they became stags because
- 24:21Speaker 1: they saw this most cowardly fellow, Socrates. And now too,
- 24:26Speaker 1: because they saw Chlysphenes, you observe, on this account, they
- 24:29Speaker 1: became women Strepsiades. Hail therefore, oh mistresses, And now if
- 24:34Speaker 1: ever ye did to any other, to me, also utter
- 24:37Speaker 1: a voice reaching to heaven, Oh all powerful queens. Chorus,
- 24:42Speaker 1: Hail O ancient veteran hunter, after learned speeches, And thou, o,
- 24:47Speaker 1: priest of most subtle trifles, tell us what you require,
- 24:51Speaker 1: for we would not hearken to any other of the
- 24:53Speaker 1: recent meteorological sophists except to producus to him on account
- 24:58Speaker 1: of his wisdom and intelligence. And to you, because you
- 25:01Speaker 1: walk proudly in the streets and cast your eyes askance,
- 25:05Speaker 1: and endure many hardships with bare feet, and in reliance
- 25:09Speaker 1: upon us, look as supercilious Strepsiades, Oh Earth, what a voice,
- 25:14Speaker 1: How holy and dignified and wondrous Socrates. For in fact,
- 25:19Speaker 1: these alone are goddesses, and all the rest is nonsense, Strepsiades.
- 25:24Speaker 1: But come, by the earth, is not Jupiter the Olympian
- 25:28Speaker 1: a god? Socrates? What Jupiter? Do not trifle? There is
- 25:32Speaker 1: no Jupiter, Strepsiades. What do you say, who reigns? Then?
- 25:37Speaker 1: For first of all, explain this to me, Socrates, these
- 25:41Speaker 1: to be sure, I will teach you it by powerful evidence. Come,
- 25:45Speaker 1: where have you ever seen him reigning at any time
- 25:48Speaker 1: without clouds? And yet he ought to rain in fine weather?
- 25:51Speaker 1: And these be absent, Strepsiades, by apollo of a truth.
- 25:55Speaker 1: You have rightly confirmed this by your present argument. And
- 25:58Speaker 1: yet before this I really thought that Jupiter caused the rain.
- 26:02Speaker 1: But tell me who is it that thunders? This makes
- 26:04Speaker 1: me tremble, Socrates. These as they roll thunder, Strepsiades, in
- 26:11Speaker 1: what way you all, daring men? Socrates? When they are
- 26:15Speaker 1: full of much water and are compelled to be borne along,
- 26:18Speaker 1: being necessarily precipitated, when full of rain, Then they fall
- 26:22Speaker 1: heavily upon each other and burst and clap, Strepsiades, Who
- 26:27Speaker 1: is it that compels them to be borne along? Is
- 26:29Speaker 1: it not Jupiter, Socrates, by no means? But ethereal vortex, Strepsiades,
- 26:35Speaker 1: vortex it had escaped my notice, that Jupiter did not exist,
- 26:40Speaker 1: and that vortex now reigned in his stead. But you
- 26:43Speaker 1: have taught me nothing as yet concerning the clap and
- 26:45Speaker 1: the thunder, Socrates? Have you not heard me that I
- 26:49Speaker 1: said that the clouds, when full of moisture, dash against
- 26:53Speaker 1: each other and clap by reason of their density, Strepsiades, come,
- 26:58Speaker 1: How am I to believe this? Socrates? I'll teach you
- 27:01Speaker 1: from your own case. Were you ever, after being stuffed
- 27:05Speaker 1: with broth at the Panathenaic festival, then disturbed in your belly,
- 27:09Speaker 1: and did a tumult suddenly rumble through it? Strepsiades, Yes,
- 27:14Speaker 1: by Apollo, And immediately the little broth plays the mischief
- 27:18Speaker 1: with me, and is disturbed and rumbles like thunder, and
- 27:21Speaker 1: grumbles dreadfully. At first gently Pa Pa packs, and then
- 27:25Speaker 1: as Papa Pa packs, and finally it thunders downright Papapapa
- 27:28Speaker 1: packs as they do. Socrates, Consider, therefore, how you have
- 27:33Speaker 1: trumpeted from a little belly so small? And how is
- 27:37Speaker 1: it not probable? That this air, being boundless, should thunder
- 27:41Speaker 1: so loudly, Strepsiades. For this reason, therefore the two names
- 27:45Speaker 1: also trump and thunder, are similar to each other. But
- 27:49Speaker 1: teach me this. Whence comes the thunderbolt, blazing with fire
- 27:53Speaker 1: and burns us to ashes, when it smites us and
- 27:56Speaker 1: singes those who survived, For indeed, Jupiter evidently her at
- 28:00Speaker 1: the perjurd Socrates, Why how, then, you foolish person and
- 28:05Speaker 1: savoring of the dark ages and antediluvian, If his manner
- 28:09Speaker 1: is to smite the perjured, does he not blast Simon
- 28:12Speaker 1: and Clionemus and Theorus? And yet they are very perjured?
- 28:17Speaker 1: But he smites his own temple in Sunium, the promontory
- 28:20Speaker 1: of Athens, and the tall oaks. Wherefore, for indeed an
- 28:24Speaker 1: oak does not commit perjury. Strepsieties, I do not know,
- 28:29Speaker 1: but you seem to speak well. For what prey is
- 28:32Speaker 1: the thunderbolt? Socrates? When a dry wind, having been raised aloft,
- 28:37Speaker 1: is enclosed in these clouds, it inflates them within like
- 28:41Speaker 1: a bladder, And then, of necessity, having burst them, it
- 28:45Speaker 1: rushes out with vehemence by reason of its density, setting
- 28:49Speaker 1: fire to itself through its rushing and impetuosity strepsieties by
- 28:54Speaker 1: Jupiter of a truth. I once experienced this exactly at
- 28:58Speaker 1: the Diasian festival. I was roasting a hagis for my kinsfolk,
- 29:02Speaker 1: and through neglect I did not cut it open, but
- 29:04Speaker 1: he became inflated, and then suddenly bursting, befouled my eyes
- 29:08Speaker 1: and burned my face. Chorus, Oh mortal, who has desired
- 29:12Speaker 1: great wisdom from us, How happy will you become among
- 29:16Speaker 1: the Athenians and among the Greeks if you be possessed
- 29:19Speaker 1: of a good memory, and be a deep thinker, and
- 29:21Speaker 1: endurance of labor be implanted in your soul, and you
- 29:25Speaker 1: be not wearied either by standing or walking, nor be
- 29:27Speaker 1: exceedingly vexed at shivering with cold, nor long to break
- 29:31Speaker 1: your fast, and you refrain from wine and gymnastics and
- 29:34Speaker 1: the other follies. And consider this the highest excellence, as
- 29:38Speaker 1: is proper, a clever man should to conquer by action
- 29:41Speaker 1: and counsel, and by battling with your tongue. Strepsiades, as
- 29:45Speaker 1: far as regards a sturdy spirit and care that makes
- 29:48Speaker 1: one's bed uneasy, and a frugal spirit and hard living
- 29:52Speaker 1: and savory eating belly, be of good courage, and don't
- 29:55Speaker 1: trouble yourself. I would offer myself to hammer on for
- 29:58Speaker 1: that matter, will you not pray? Now? Believe in no
- 30:02Speaker 1: God except what we believe in this chaos and the
- 30:06Speaker 1: clouds and the tongue, these three strepsieties. Absolutely, I would
- 30:11Speaker 1: not even converse with the others, not even if I
- 30:13Speaker 1: met them, Nor would I sacrifice to them, nor make libations,
- 30:17Speaker 1: nor offer frankincense. Chorus. Tell us, then, boldly what we
- 30:21Speaker 1: must do for you, for you shall not fail in
- 30:23Speaker 1: getting it, if you honor and admire us and seek
- 30:26Speaker 1: to become cleverer. Strepsiades, Oh mistresses, I request of you
- 30:31Speaker 1: then this very small favor, that I be the best
- 30:34Speaker 1: of the Greeks in speaking by a hundred stadia. Chorus. Well,
- 30:38Speaker 1: you shall have this from us, so that henceforward from
- 30:41Speaker 1: this time no one shall get more opinions passed in
- 30:44Speaker 1: the public assemblies than you. Strepsieties, grant me not to
- 30:49Speaker 1: deliver important opinions, for I do not desire these, but
- 30:52Speaker 1: only to pervert the right form my own advantage and
- 30:55Speaker 1: to evade my creditors. Chorus. Then you shall obtain what
- 30:59Speaker 1: you desire, for you do not covet great things, But
- 31:02Speaker 1: commit yourself without fear to our ministers, Strepsiades, I will
- 31:07Speaker 1: do so in reliance upon you, for necessity oppresses me,
- 31:11Speaker 1: on account of the blood horses and the marriage that
- 31:13Speaker 1: ruin me. Now, therefore, let them use me as they please.
- 31:17Speaker 1: I give up this body to them, to be beaten,
- 31:19Speaker 1: to be hungered, to be troubled with thirst, to be squalid,
- 31:23Speaker 1: to shiver with cold, to flay into a leathern bottle.
- 31:26Speaker 1: If I shall escape clear from my depths and appear
- 31:29Speaker 1: to men to be bold, glib of tongue, audacious, impudent, shameless,
- 31:34Speaker 1: a fabricator of falsehoods, inventive of words, a practice knave
- 31:38Speaker 1: in lawsuits, a law tablet, a thorough rattle, a fox,
- 31:42Speaker 1: a sharper, a slippery nave, a dissembler, a slippery fellow,
- 31:47Speaker 1: an impostor, a gallows bird, a blaggard, a twister, a
- 31:50Speaker 1: troublesome fellow, a liquor up of hashes. If they call
- 31:54Speaker 1: me this when they meet me, let them do to
- 31:56Speaker 1: me absolutely what they please, And if they like, by series,
- 32:00Speaker 1: let them serve up a sausage out of me. To
- 32:01Speaker 1: the deep thinkers chorus, this man has a spirit, not
- 32:06Speaker 1: void of courage, but prompt know that if you learn
- 32:09Speaker 1: these matters from me, you will possess among mortals a
- 32:11Speaker 1: glory as high as heaven. Strepsieties, What shall I experience? Chorus?
- 32:17Speaker 1: You shall pass with me the most enviable of mortal lives,
- 32:21Speaker 1: the whole time Strepsieties? Shall I then ever see this chorus? Yeay,
- 32:27Speaker 1: so that many be always seated at your gates, wishing
- 32:30Speaker 1: to communicate with you, and come to a conference with you,
- 32:33Speaker 1: to consult with you as to actions and affidavits of
- 32:36Speaker 1: many talents, as is worthy of your abilities. To Socrates,
- 32:41Speaker 1: but attempt to teach the old man by degrees whatever
- 32:43Speaker 1: you purpose, and scrutinize his intellect and make trial of
- 32:47Speaker 1: his mind. Socrates, Come now tell me your own turn
- 32:51Speaker 1: of mind, in order that when I know of what
- 32:53Speaker 1: sort it is, I may now, after this apply to
- 32:56Speaker 1: you new engines strepsieties. What gods do you purpose to
- 33:01Speaker 1: besiege me? Socrates? No, I wish to briefly learn from
- 33:06Speaker 1: you if you are possessed of a good memory strepsieties
- 33:09Speaker 1: in two ways, by jove, if anything be owing to me,
- 33:13Speaker 1: I have a very good memory. But if I owe
- 33:15Speaker 1: unhappy man, I am very forgetful, Socrates. Is the power
- 33:20Speaker 1: of speaking prey implanted in your nature, Strepsieties. Speaking is
- 33:25Speaker 1: not in me, but cheating is, Socrates. How then will
- 33:30Speaker 1: you be able to learn strepsieties excellently? Of course? Socrates? Come,
- 33:35Speaker 1: then take care that whenever I propound any clever dogma
- 33:39Speaker 1: about abstruse matters, you catch it up immediately, Strepsieties, What
- 33:44Speaker 1: then am I to feed upon wisdom like a dog? Socrates?
- 33:48Speaker 1: This man is ignorant and brutish. I fear, old man,
- 33:52Speaker 1: lest you will need blows. Come let me see what
- 33:55Speaker 1: do you do if anyone beat you, Strepsieties. I take
- 33:58Speaker 1: the beating, and then when I have a little while,
- 34:01Speaker 1: I call witnesses to prove it. Then again, after a
- 34:03Speaker 1: short interval, I go to law. Socrates. Come, then lay
- 34:08Speaker 1: down your cloak, Strepsieties. Have I done any wrong? Socrates? No?
- 34:13Speaker 1: But it is the rule to enter naked, Strepsiades. But
- 34:17Speaker 1: I do not enter to search for stolen goods. Socrates,
- 34:20Speaker 1: lay it down? Why do you talk nonsense? Strepsiades. Now
- 34:25Speaker 1: tell me this pray. If I be diligent and learn zealously,
- 34:29Speaker 1: to which of your disciples shall I become like? Socrates?
- 34:33Speaker 1: You will no way differ from Chirophon in intellect. Strepsiodes
- 34:38Speaker 1: h me unhappy, I shall become half dead. Socrates. Don't chatter,
- 34:43Speaker 1: but quickly follow me hither with smartness. Strepsieodes, then give
- 34:47Speaker 1: me first into my hands a honeyed cake, for I
- 34:50Speaker 1: am afraid of descending within, as if into the cave
- 34:53Speaker 1: of Trophonius. Socrates proceed, Why do you keep poking about
- 34:58Speaker 1: the door? Socrates and Strepsiadies end of part one recording
- 35:06Speaker 1: by ex Patriot in Bangor, Maine. Part two of the
- 35:21Speaker 1: Clouds by Aristophanes, translated by William James Hickey. This LibriVox
- 35:27Speaker 1: recording is in the public domain. Recording by Expatriot in Bangor, Maine,
- 35:33Speaker 1: Part two chorus, Well go in peace for the sake
- 35:39Speaker 1: of this your valor. May prosperity attend the man, because,
- 35:42Speaker 1: being advanced into the veil of years, he imbues his
- 35:46Speaker 1: intellect with modern subjects and cultivates wisdom. Turning to the audience, spectators,
- 35:52Speaker 1: I will freely declare to you the truth by Bacchus,
- 35:55Speaker 1: who nurtured me. So may I conquer and be accounted
- 35:58Speaker 1: skillful as that deem you to be clever spectators, and
- 36:02Speaker 1: this to be the cleverest of my comedies. I thought
- 36:05Speaker 1: proper to let you first taste that comedy which gave
- 36:08Speaker 1: me the greatest labor. And then I retired from the contest,
- 36:11Speaker 1: defeated by vulgar fellows, though I did not deserve it.
- 36:14Speaker 1: These things. Therefore I object to you, a learned audience
- 36:18Speaker 1: for whose sake I was expending this labor. But not
- 36:21Speaker 1: even thus will I ever willingly desert the discerning portion
- 36:24Speaker 1: of you. For since what time my modest men and
- 36:27Speaker 1: my rake were very highly praised here by an audience
- 36:31Speaker 1: with whom it is a pleasure even to hold converse.
- 36:33Speaker 1: And I, for I was still a virgin, and it
- 36:36Speaker 1: was not lawful for me as yet to have children
- 36:38Speaker 1: exposed my offspring and another girl took it up and
- 36:41Speaker 1: owned it, and you generously reared and educated it. From
- 36:45Speaker 1: this time I've had sure pledges of your goodwill toward me. Now, therefore,
- 36:49Speaker 1: like that well known Electra, has this comedy come seeking
- 36:53Speaker 1: if happily at meet with an audience so clever, for
- 36:56Speaker 1: it will recognize if it should see the lack of
- 36:59Speaker 1: its brother. But see how modest she is by nature,
- 37:02Speaker 1: who in the first place, has come, having stitched to
- 37:05Speaker 1: her no leathern fallus hanging down, read at the top,
- 37:08Speaker 1: and thick to set the boys a laughing. Nor yet
- 37:11Speaker 1: jeered the bald headed, nor dance the chord axe. Nor
- 37:14Speaker 1: does the old man who speaks the verses beat the
- 37:16Speaker 1: person near him with his staff, keeping out of sight
- 37:18Speaker 1: wretched rye baldry. Nor has she rushed in with torches,
- 37:22Speaker 1: nor does she shout, yo yo, but has come relying
- 37:25Speaker 1: on herself and her verses. And I, although so excellent
- 37:29Speaker 1: a poet, do not give myself airs, nor do I
- 37:31Speaker 1: seek to deceive you by twice and thrice bringing forward
- 37:35Speaker 1: the same pieces. But I am always clever at introducing
- 37:38Speaker 1: new fashions, not at all resembling each other, and all
- 37:41Speaker 1: of them clever who struck Cleon in the belly when
- 37:44Speaker 1: at the height of his power, and could not bear
- 37:47Speaker 1: to attack him afterward when he was down. But these scribblers,
- 37:50Speaker 1: when once Hyperbolus has given them a handle, keep ever
- 37:53Speaker 1: trampling on this wretched man and his mother. Eupolus indeed,
- 37:58Speaker 1: first of all craftily introduced his Maricus, having basely base
- 38:02Speaker 1: fellow spoiled by altering my play of the knights, having
- 38:05Speaker 1: added to it for the sake of the Kordax, a
- 38:08Speaker 1: drunken old woman whom Phynicus long ago poetized, whom the
- 38:12Speaker 1: whail was for devouring. Then again Hermipus made verses on Hyperbolus,
- 38:18Speaker 1: and now all others press hard upon Hyperbolus, imitating my
- 38:22Speaker 1: simile of the eels, whoever therefore laughs at these, let
- 38:26Speaker 1: him not take pleasure in my attempts. But if you
- 38:29Speaker 1: were delighted with me and my inventions in times to come,
- 38:32Speaker 1: you will seem to be wise. I first invoke to
- 38:36Speaker 1: join our coral band, the mighty Jupiter ruling on high,
- 38:40Speaker 1: the monarch of gods, and the potent master of the Trident,
- 38:44Speaker 1: the fierce upheaver of Earth and briny Sea, and our
- 38:47Speaker 1: father of great renown, most august Ether, life's supporter of all,
- 38:52Speaker 1: and the horse guider who fills the plane of the
- 38:55Speaker 1: earth with exceeding bright beams. A mighty deity among gods
- 38:59Speaker 1: and mortals, most clever spectators. Come, give us your attention.
- 39:03Speaker 1: For having been injured, we blame you to your faces,
- 39:06Speaker 1: for though we benefit the state most of all the gods,
- 39:09Speaker 1: to us alone, of the deities, you do not offer sacrifice.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Nor yet, poor libations who watch over you, For if
- 39:16Speaker 1: there should be any expedition without prudence, then we either
- 39:19Speaker 1: thunder or drizzle small rain. And then, when you were
- 39:23Speaker 1: for choosing as your general the Paphlagonian tanner, hateful to
- 39:27Speaker 1: the gods, we contracted our brows and were enraged, and
- 39:30Speaker 1: thunder bursts through the lightning, and the moon forsook her
- 39:33Speaker 1: usual paths, and the sun immediately drew in his wick
- 39:36Speaker 1: to himself and declared he would not give you light
- 39:39Speaker 1: if Cleon should be your general. Nevertheless, you chose him,
- 39:43Speaker 1: for they say that ill counsel is in this city,
- 39:46Speaker 1: that the gods, however, turn all these your mismanagements to
- 39:49Speaker 1: a prosperous issue, And how this also shall be advantageous.
- 39:54Speaker 1: We will easily teach you. If you should convict the
- 39:57Speaker 1: cormorant Cleon of bribery and embezzlement, and then make fast
- 40:01Speaker 1: his neck in the stalks, the affair will turn out
- 40:03Speaker 1: for the state to the ancient form again. If you
- 40:06Speaker 1: have mismanaged in any way and to a prosperous issue,
- 40:11Speaker 1: hear me again, King Phoebus Delian Apollo, who inhabitists the
- 40:15Speaker 1: high peaked Scynthian rock, and thou blessed goddess who inhabitist
- 40:20Speaker 1: the all golden house of Ephesus, in which Lydian damsels
- 40:24Speaker 1: greatly reverence thee, and thou our national goddess, swayer of
- 40:28Speaker 1: the Eegius Minerva, guardian of the city, and thou reveler Bacchus,
- 40:33Speaker 1: who inhabiting the Parnassian rock, sparkless with torches, conspicuous among
- 40:39Speaker 1: the Delphic bacchanals. When we had got ready to set
- 40:42Speaker 1: out hither, the moon met us and commanded us first
- 40:45Speaker 1: to greet the Athenians in their allies, and then declared
- 40:48Speaker 1: that she was angry for that she had suffered dreadful things.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Though she benefits you all, not in words, but openly
- 40:55Speaker 1: in the first place, not less than a drachma every
- 40:57Speaker 1: month for torches, So that also all, when they went
- 41:00Speaker 1: out of an evening, were wont to say, boy, don't
- 41:03Speaker 1: buy a torp, for the moonlight is beautiful. And she
- 41:06Speaker 1: says she confers other benefits on you, but that you
- 41:08Speaker 1: do not observe the days at all correctly, but confuse
- 41:12Speaker 1: them up and down, so that she says the gods
- 41:14Speaker 1: are constantly threatening her when they are defrauded of their
- 41:17Speaker 1: dinner and depart home, not having met with a regular
- 41:20Speaker 1: feast according to the number of the days. And then
- 41:23Speaker 1: when you ought to be sacrificing, you are inflicting tortures
- 41:27Speaker 1: and litigating. And often while we gods are observing a fast,
- 41:31Speaker 1: when we mourn from Memnon or Sarpedon, you are pouring
- 41:35Speaker 1: libations and laughing. For which reason, Hyperbolus, having obtained the
- 41:39Speaker 1: lot this year to be Hieromnemon, was afterward deprived by
- 41:44Speaker 1: us gods of his crown. For thus he will know
- 41:47Speaker 1: better than he ought to spend the days of his
- 41:48Speaker 1: life according to the moon. Enter Socrates. Socrates, by respiration
- 41:55Speaker 1: and chaos in air, I have not seen any man
- 41:58Speaker 1: so boorish, nor so impracticable, nor so stupid, nor so forgetful, who,
- 42:04Speaker 1: while learning some little petty quibbles, forgets them before he
- 42:07Speaker 1: has learned them. Nevertheless, I will certainly call him out
- 42:10Speaker 1: here to the light where is Strepsiades. Come forth with
- 42:13Speaker 1: your couch, Strepsieties from within the bugs do not permit
- 42:18Speaker 1: me to bring it forth, Socrates, make haste and lay
- 42:21Speaker 1: it down, and give me your attention. Enter strepsiades, strepsieties.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Very well, Socrates, Come now, what do you now wish
- 42:30Speaker 1: to learn? First? Of those things, and none of which
- 42:32Speaker 1: you have ever been instructed? Tell me about measures, or
- 42:35Speaker 1: rhythms or verses strepsiadies. I should prefer to learn about measures,
- 42:41Speaker 1: for it is but lately that I was cheated out
- 42:43Speaker 1: of two keynesses by a meal huckster, Socrates, I do
- 42:47Speaker 1: not ask you this, but which you account the most
- 42:50Speaker 1: beautiful measure, the trimeter or the tetrameter. Strepsiadies, make a
- 42:55Speaker 1: wager than with me if the semisexterius be not a tetrameter, Socrates,
- 43:01Speaker 1: go to the devil. How borish you are and dull
- 43:03Speaker 1: of learning. Perhaps you may be able to learn about
- 43:06Speaker 1: rhythms strepsieties. But what good will rhythms do me for
- 43:11Speaker 1: a living Socrates in the first place, to be clever
- 43:15Speaker 1: at an entertainment, understanding what rhythm is for the war dance?
- 43:19Speaker 1: And what again according to the dactyl strepsieties according to
- 43:23Speaker 1: the dactyl. By job, But I know it, Socrates, tell me,
- 43:28Speaker 1: pray strpscieties, what else but this finger? Formerly? Indeed, when
- 43:33Speaker 1: I was yet a boy, this here, Socrates, you are
- 43:37Speaker 1: boorish and stupid strepsieties. For I do not desire you
- 43:42Speaker 1: wretch to learn any of these things, Socrates. What then, strepsiodes?
- 43:48Speaker 1: That that the most unjust cause, Socrates. But you must
- 43:53Speaker 1: learn other things before these, namely, what quadrupeds are properly
- 43:57Speaker 1: masculine strepsieties? I know the males if I am not mad,
- 44:02Speaker 1: creos tragos toros couon electrion, Socrates. Do you see what
- 44:08Speaker 1: you are doing? You are calling both the female and
- 44:11Speaker 1: the male electrion in the same way strepsieties. How pray,
- 44:15Speaker 1: come tell me, Socrates, how the one with you is
- 44:19Speaker 1: electrion and the other is electrion also strepsieties. Yay, by Neptune.
- 44:24Speaker 1: How now ought I to call them, Socrates, the one
- 44:28Speaker 1: electriana and the other elector strepsieties Electriana capital by the air,
- 44:35Speaker 1: So that in return for this lesson alone, I will
- 44:38Speaker 1: feel your cartipase full of barley meal on all sides, Socrates.
- 44:43Speaker 1: See see there again is another blunder. You make cardipas,
- 44:48Speaker 1: which is feminine, to be masculine strepsieties. In what way
- 44:53Speaker 1: do I make cardipas masculine? Socrates? Most assuredly, just as
- 44:58Speaker 1: if you were to say cleon strepsieties, good, Sir, Cleonymus
- 45:03Speaker 1: had no kneading trough, but kneaded his bread in a
- 45:06Speaker 1: round mortar? How ought I to call it henceforth, Socrates?
- 45:11Speaker 1: How call it cardipa ae? You call Sostrates strepsieties cardip
- 45:17Speaker 1: and the feminine Socrates? For so you speak it rightly strepsieties.
- 45:23Speaker 1: But that would make it cardip cleonymy, Socrates, you must
- 45:28Speaker 1: learn one more thing about names? What are masculine? And
- 45:31Speaker 1: what of them are feminine strepsieties? I know what are female? Socrates?
- 45:37Speaker 1: Tell me prey, Strepsiades, Lycilla, Felina, Clitagora, Demetria, Socrates? What
- 45:45Speaker 1: names are masculine strepsieties? Thousands, Phyloxinus, Melicias, Someminius, Socrates? But
- 45:53Speaker 1: you wretch? These are not masculine strepsieties? Are they not males?
- 45:58Speaker 1: With yourates? By no means? For how would you call
- 46:02Speaker 1: Amenius if you met him strepsiodes? How would I call thus? Come? Hither?
- 46:08Speaker 1: Come hither Emenia? Socrates? Do you see you call Amenias
- 46:12Speaker 1: a woman strepsiades? Is it not? Then? With justice? Who
- 46:16Speaker 1: does not serve in the army? But why should I
- 46:19Speaker 1: learn these things that we all know. Socrates. It is
- 46:23Speaker 1: no use by Jupiter having reclined yourself down here, Strepsieties,
- 46:28Speaker 1: What must I do, Socrates? Think out some of your
- 46:32Speaker 1: own affairs, Strepsiades, not here pray I beseech you. But
- 46:37Speaker 1: if I must suffer me to excogitate these very things
- 46:40Speaker 1: on the ground, Socrates, there is no other way exit Socrates, Strepsietes,
- 46:47Speaker 1: unfortunate man that I am? What a penalty shall I
- 46:51Speaker 1: this day pay to the bugs? Chorus? Now meditate and
- 46:55Speaker 1: examine closely, and roll yourself about in every way, having
- 46:59Speaker 1: wrapped yourself up up, and quickly, when you fall into
- 47:01Speaker 1: a difficulty, spring to another mental contrivance. But let delightful
- 47:06Speaker 1: sleep be absent from your eyes. Strepsiades, attataie atatie Chorus,
- 47:12Speaker 1: what ails you? Why are you distressed? Strepsieties, wretched man,
- 47:17Speaker 1: I am perishing. The Corinthians coming out from the bed
- 47:20Speaker 1: are biting me and devouring my sides, and drinking up
- 47:24Speaker 1: my life blood, and tearing away my flesh, and digging
- 47:27Speaker 1: through my vitals, and will annihilate me. Chorus, Do not
- 47:31Speaker 1: now be very grievously distressed, Strepsiades, Why how when my
- 47:36Speaker 1: money is gone, my complexion gone, my life gone, and
- 47:40Speaker 1: my slipper gone. And furthermore, in addition to these evils,
- 47:44Speaker 1: with singing the night watches, I am almost gone myself.
- 47:48Speaker 1: Re enter Socrates, Socrates, Ho, you, what are you about?
- 47:52Speaker 1: Are you not meditating? Strepsiades? I yay, by Neptune, Socrates.
- 47:58Speaker 1: And what pray have you thought, Strepsiades, whether any bit
- 48:02Speaker 1: of me will be left by the bugs? Socrates? You
- 48:06Speaker 1: will perish most wretchedly, Strepsietes. But my good friend, I
- 48:10Speaker 1: have already perished. Socrates, you must not give in, but
- 48:14Speaker 1: must wrap yourself up, for you have to discover a
- 48:17Speaker 1: device for abstracting in a means of cheating, walks up
- 48:21Speaker 1: and down, while Strpsiodes wraps themselves up in the blankets. Strepsiodes,
- 48:26Speaker 1: ah me would pray some one would throw over me
- 48:29Speaker 1: a swindling contrivance from the sheepskins. Socrates. Come now, I
- 48:34Speaker 1: will first see this fellow what he is about? Ho
- 48:37Speaker 1: you are you asleep? Strepsiades? No, by Apollo, I am
- 48:41Speaker 1: not Socrates. Have you got anything Strepsiodes, No, by Jupiter,
- 48:47Speaker 1: certainly not Socrates, nothing at all, Strepsiades, nothing except what
- 48:52Speaker 1: I have in my right hand, Socrates, will you not
- 48:55Speaker 1: quickly cover yourself up and think of something, Strepsiades about
- 49:00Speaker 1: What for do you tell me this o, Socrates? Socrates,
- 49:04Speaker 1: do you yourself first find out and state what you wish? Strepsiades,
- 49:09Speaker 1: You have heard a thousand times what I wish about
- 49:12Speaker 1: the interest, so that I may pay no one, Socrates. Come,
- 49:16Speaker 1: then wrap yourself up, and, having given your mind, play
- 49:19Speaker 1: with subtlety, revolve your affairs by little and little, rightly
- 49:23Speaker 1: distinguishing and examining. Strepsiades. Uh me, unhappy man, Socrates, keep quiet,
- 49:31Speaker 1: and if you be puzzled in any one of your conceptions,
- 49:34Speaker 1: leave it and go, And then set your mind in
- 49:36Speaker 1: motion again and lock it up, Strepsiodes in great glee,
- 49:41Speaker 1: Oh dearest little Socrates, Socrates, what old man, Strepsiades, I
- 49:48Speaker 1: have got a device for cheating them of the interest? Socrates?
- 49:52Speaker 1: Exhibit it. Strepsiades, Now tell me this pray. If I
- 49:57Speaker 1: were to purchase a Thesalian witch and draw down on
- 50:00Speaker 1: the moon by night, and then shut it up as
- 50:02Speaker 1: if it were a mirror in a round crust case,
- 50:04Speaker 1: and then carefully keep it, Socrates, what good prey would
- 50:08Speaker 1: this do you, Strepsiodes, What if the moon were to
- 50:12Speaker 1: rise no longer anywhere? I should not pay the interest? Socrates?
- 50:17Speaker 1: Why so, pray, Strepsiades, because the money is lent out
- 50:22Speaker 1: by the month, Socrates. Capital But I will again propose
- 50:26Speaker 1: to you another clever question. If a suit of five
- 50:29Speaker 1: talents should be entered against you, tell me how you
- 50:32Speaker 1: would obliterate it, Strepsiodes, how how I do not know,
- 50:36Speaker 1: but I must seek Socrates. Do not then always revolve
- 50:40Speaker 1: your thoughts about yourself, but slack away your mind into
- 50:44Speaker 1: the air like a cockchafer tied with a thread by
- 50:47Speaker 1: the foot, Strepsiades, I have found a very clever method
- 50:51Speaker 1: of getting rid of my suit, so that you yourself
- 50:54Speaker 1: would acknowledge it. Socrates. Of what description, Strepsiades, have you
- 51:00Speaker 1: seen this stone in the chemist's shops, the beautiful and
- 51:03Speaker 1: transparent one from which they kindle fire? Socrates? Do you
- 51:06Speaker 1: mean the burning glass? Strepsieties? I do come. What would
- 51:10Speaker 1: you say, Pray? If I were to take this when
- 51:13Speaker 1: the clerk was entering the suit, and were to stand
- 51:15Speaker 1: at a distance in the direction of the sun thus
- 51:18Speaker 1: and melt out the letters of my suit? Socrates cleverly
- 51:23Speaker 1: done by the graces. Strepsiades. Oh, how I am delighted
- 51:28Speaker 1: that a suit of five talents has been canceled. Socrates,
- 51:32Speaker 1: Come now quickly seize upon this, Strepsiades, What Socrates, how,
- 51:37Speaker 1: when engaged in a lawsuit you could overturn the suit
- 51:40Speaker 1: when you were about to be cast because you had
- 51:42Speaker 1: no witnesses, Strepsiades, most readily and easily, Socrates, tell me pray, Strepsieties. Well,
- 51:50Speaker 1: now I'll tell you if while one suit was still
- 51:53Speaker 1: pending before mine was called on, I were to run
- 51:57Speaker 1: away and hang myself. Socrates, we talk nonsense, Strepsieties, by
- 52:02Speaker 1: the gods, would i for no one will bring action
- 52:05Speaker 1: against me when I am dead? Socrates, you talk nonsense?
- 52:09Speaker 1: Be gone. I can't teach you any longer, Strepsiodes, Why
- 52:13Speaker 1: so yay, by the gods of Socrates. Socrates, you straightway
- 52:19Speaker 1: forget whatever you learn. For what now was the first
- 52:21Speaker 1: thing you were taught? Tell me, Strepsiodes. Hmm, come let
- 52:25Speaker 1: me see, nay, what was the first? What was the first? Nay?
- 52:31Speaker 1: What was the thing in which we need our flower?
- 52:33Speaker 1: Ah me? What was it? Socrates? Will you not pack
- 52:38Speaker 1: off to the devil you most forgetful and most stupid
- 52:41Speaker 1: old men, Strepsieties me what, then, pray? What will become
- 52:46Speaker 1: of me? Wretched men? For I shall be utterly undone
- 52:49Speaker 1: if I do not learn to ply the tongue. Come, oh,
- 52:52Speaker 1: ye clouds, give me some good advice. Chorus. We old man,
- 52:57Speaker 1: advise you, if you have a son grown up, to
- 52:59Speaker 1: send him to learn in your stead. Strepsiades, Well, I
- 53:04Speaker 1: have a fine, handsome son, but he is not willing
- 53:07Speaker 1: to learn. What must I do? Chorus? But do you
- 53:10Speaker 1: permit him? Strepsiades, Yes, for he is robust in body
- 53:15Speaker 1: and in good health, and isscome of the high plumed
- 53:17Speaker 1: dames of Quissira. I will go for him, and if
- 53:19Speaker 1: he be not willing, I will certainly drive him from
- 53:22Speaker 1: my house to Socrates, go in and wait for me
- 53:25Speaker 1: a short time exit Chorus. Do you perceive that you
- 53:30Speaker 1: are soon to obtain the greatest benefits through us alone
- 53:33Speaker 1: of the gods? For this man is ready to do
- 53:36Speaker 1: everything that you bid him. But you, while the man
- 53:39Speaker 1: is astounded and evidently elated, having perceived it, will quickly
- 53:43Speaker 1: fleece him to the best of your power. Exit Socrates,
- 53:47Speaker 1: For matters of this sort are somehow accustomed to turn
- 53:50Speaker 1: the other way, enter Strepsiades and Phydipidies. Strepsiades, by mist,
- 53:57Speaker 1: you certainly shall not stay here any longer. But oh,
- 54:00Speaker 1: in all the columns of megacles fidipidies, my good sir,
- 54:04Speaker 1: what is the matter with you? O father? You are
- 54:07Speaker 1: not in your senses by Olympian Jupiter, Strepsiadies, see see
- 54:12Speaker 1: Olympian Jupiter. What folly to think of your believing in
- 54:15Speaker 1: Jupiter as old as you are, Phidipities, Why pray did
- 54:20Speaker 1: you laugh at this, Strepsiades, reflecting that you are a
- 54:24Speaker 1: child and have antiquated notions. Yet, however, approach that you
- 54:28Speaker 1: may know more, And I will tell you a thing
- 54:30Speaker 1: by learning which you will be a man. But see
- 54:33Speaker 1: that you do not teach this to anyone, Fidipities. Well
- 54:36Speaker 1: what is it, Strepsieodies, you swore now by Jupiter, Fidipities,
- 54:41Speaker 1: I did Strepsiades, seest thou then how good a thing
- 54:45Speaker 1: is learning? There is no Jupiter, Oh, phidipities, phidipities. Who then,
- 54:51Speaker 1: Strepsiades Vortax rerains, having expelled Jupiter, Fidipities, Bah, why do
- 54:58Speaker 1: you talk foolishly Strepsieties, be assured that it is so
- 55:03Speaker 1: phidipities who says this, Strepsieties, Socrates, the Melian and Chyrophon,
- 55:09Speaker 1: who knows the footmarks of fleas Fidipities. Have you arrived
- 55:13Speaker 1: at such a pitch of frenzy that you believe mad men?
- 55:17Speaker 1: Strepsieties speak words of good omen and say nothing bad
- 55:21Speaker 1: of clever men, and wise, of whom, through frugality, none
- 55:25Speaker 1: ever shaved or anointed himself, or went to a bath
- 55:28Speaker 1: to wash himself. While you squander my property in bathing,
- 55:31Speaker 1: as if I were already dead. But go as quickly
- 55:34Speaker 1: as possible and learn instead of me, Phidipities. What good
- 55:38Speaker 1: could anyone learn from them? Strepsieties? What really? Whatever a
- 55:43Speaker 1: wisdom there is among men? And you will know yourself
- 55:46Speaker 1: how ignorant and stupid you are. But wait for me
- 55:48Speaker 1: here a short time runs off Phidipities. Ah me, what
- 55:54Speaker 1: shall I do my father being crazed? Shall I bring
- 55:57Speaker 1: him into court and convict him of lunacy? Or shall
- 56:00Speaker 1: I give information of his madness to the coffin makers
- 56:04Speaker 1: re enter Strepsiades with a cock under one arm, in
- 56:07Speaker 1: a hen under the other. Strepsiades, Come, let me see
- 56:11Speaker 1: what do you consider this to be? Tell me Fidipities
- 56:15Speaker 1: Electrion Strepsiades, right, and what this Phidipities Electrion Strepsiades, both
- 56:23Speaker 1: the same? You are very ridiculous. Do not do so
- 56:26Speaker 1: then for the future, but call this Electriana and this
- 56:30Speaker 1: one elector fidipities Electrianina. Did you learn these clever things
- 56:36Speaker 1: by going in just now to the Titans, Strepsiades and
- 56:40Speaker 1: many others too. But whatever I learned on each occasion
- 56:43Speaker 1: I used to forget immediately through length of years, Phidipities.
- 56:47Speaker 1: Is it for this reason? Pray that you have also
- 56:49Speaker 1: lost your cloak, Strepsiades. I have not lost it, but
- 56:53Speaker 1: have studied it away. Fidipities. What have you made of
- 56:57Speaker 1: your slippers, you foolish men, Strepsiod, I have expended them
- 57:01Speaker 1: like pericles for needful purposes. Come move, let us go,
- 57:06Speaker 1: and then if you obey your father, go wrong. If
- 57:08Speaker 1: you like, I also know that I formerly obeyed you
- 57:12Speaker 1: a lisping child of six years old, and bought you
- 57:15Speaker 1: a gokar at the Diacia with the first obulus I
- 57:18Speaker 1: received from the Heliayah Bidipdies. You will assuredly sometime at
- 57:23Speaker 1: length be grieved at this, Strepsiades, It is well done
- 57:27Speaker 1: of you that you obeyed. Come hither, Come hither, o Socrates,
- 57:31Speaker 1: Come forth where I bring to you this son of mine,
- 57:34Speaker 1: Having persuaded him against his will, Enter Socrates, Socrates, for
- 57:39Speaker 1: he is still childish and not used to the baskets
- 57:42Speaker 1: here bidipities. You would yourself be used to them if
- 57:46Speaker 1: you were hanged. Strepsiades, a mischief take you? Do you
- 57:51Speaker 1: abuse your teacher? Socrates were hanged? Quoth he, how sillily
- 57:56Speaker 1: he pronounced it, and with lips wide apart. How can
- 57:59Speaker 1: this youth ever learn an acquittal from a trial or
- 58:02Speaker 1: a legal summons or persuasive refutation? And yet Hyperbolus learn
- 58:07Speaker 1: this at the cost of a talent Strepsieties, Never mind
- 58:10Speaker 1: teach him. He is clever by nature. Indeed, from his
- 58:14Speaker 1: earliest years, when he was a little fellow only so big,
- 58:17Speaker 1: he was wont to form houses, in carve ships within doors,
- 58:21Speaker 1: and make little wagons of leather, and make frogs out
- 58:24Speaker 1: of pomegranate rhyndes. You can't think how cleverly, but see
- 58:27Speaker 1: that he learns those two causes the better, whatever it
- 58:31Speaker 1: may be. And the worse, which by maintaining what is
- 58:34Speaker 1: unjust overturns the better. If not both at any rate,
- 58:37Speaker 1: the unjust one, by all means, Socrates, he shall learn
- 58:42Speaker 1: it himself from the two causes in person. Exit Socrates, Strepsiodes.
- 58:48Speaker 1: I will take my departure. Remember this now that he
- 58:51Speaker 1: is to be able to reply to all just arguments.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Exit Stripsiodes, and enter just cause an unjust cause just cause.
- 59:01Speaker 1: Come hither, show yourself to the spectators, although being audacious
- 59:06Speaker 1: unjust cause, go whither you please, for I shall far
- 59:10Speaker 1: rather do for you. If I speak before a crowd
- 59:13Speaker 1: just cause, you destroy me? Who are you? Unjust cause
- 59:18Speaker 1: a cause just cause? I the worst unjust cause. But
- 59:24Speaker 1: I conquer you, who say that you are better than I,
- 59:27Speaker 1: just cause by doing what clever trick unjust cause, by
- 59:33Speaker 1: discovering new contrivances just cause. For these innovations flourish by
- 59:38Speaker 1: the favor of these silly persons unjust cause, no, but
- 59:43Speaker 1: wise persons just cause, I will destroy you miserably unjust cause.
- 59:49Speaker 1: Tell me by doing what just cause, by speaking what
- 59:53Speaker 1: is just unjust cause. But I will overturn them by
- 59:57Speaker 1: contradicting them. For I deny that justice even exists at all?
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Just cause? Do you deny that it exists unjust cause?
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: For come, where is it just cause? With the God's
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: unjust cause? How then if justice exists as Jupiter not
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: perished to bound his own father just cause? Bah, this
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: profanity now is spreading, give me a basin unjust cause
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: you are a dotard and absurd just cause you are
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: debauched and shameless unjust cause you have spoken roses of
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: me just cause, and a dirty lickspittle unjust cause you
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: crown me with lilies just cause, and a parricide unjust
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: cause you don't know that you are sprinkling me with
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: gold just cause certainly not so formally, but with lead
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: unjust cause. But now this is an ornament to me
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: just cause you are very impudent unjust cause, and you
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: are antiquated just cause, and through you know, one of
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: our youths is willing to go to school. And you
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: will be found out sometime or other by the Athenians.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: What sort of doctrines you teach the simple minded? Unjust
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: cause you are shamefully squalid just cause, and you are prosperous,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: and yet formerly you were a beggar saying that you
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: were the misi, and telliface and knowing the maxims of
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Pandelatus out of your little wallet. Unjust cause, Oh the wisdom,
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: just cause, Oh the madness unjust cause which you have mentioned.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: Just cause, And of your city which supports you, who
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: ruin her youth's unjust cause you shan't teach this youth,
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: you old dotard. Just cause. Yes, if he is to
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: be saved, not merely to practice loquacity, unjust cause, defy dipities.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Come hither and leave him to rave, just cause you
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: shall howl if you lay your hand on him. Chorus,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: Cease from content and railing, but show to us you
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: what you used to teach the men of former times,
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: and you the new system of education, in order that,
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: having heard you disputing, he may decide and go to
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: the school of one or the other, just cause I
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: am willing to do so, unjust cause I also am willing. Chorus.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Come now, which of the two shall speak first? Unjust
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: cause I will give him the precedence. And then from
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: these things which he adduces, I will shoot him dead
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: with new words and thoughts. And at last, if he mutter,
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: he shall be destroyed, being stung in his whole face,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: in his two eyes by my maxims, as if by
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: bees chorus. Now the two, relying on very dexterous arguments
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: and thoughts and sententious maxims, will show which of them
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: shall appear superior in argument. For now the whole crisis
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: of wisdom is here laid before them, about which my
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: friends have a very great contest. But do you, who
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: adorned our elders with many virtuous manners, utter the voice
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: in which you rejoice and declare your nature? Just cause?
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: I will therefore describe the ancient system of education how
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: it was ordered when I flourished in the advocacy of
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: justice and temperance was the fashion. In the first place,
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: it was incumbent that no one should hear the voice
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: of a boy uttering a syllable. And next that those
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: from the same quarter of the town should march in
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: good order through the streets to the school of the
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: harp master, naked and in a body, even if it
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: were to snow as sick as meal. Then again their
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: master would teach them, not sitting cross legged, to learn
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: by wrote a song, either Pallada persipolin denon or telepuron
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: ti Boama, raising to a higher pitch the harmony which
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: our fathers transmitted to us. But if any of them
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: were to play the buffoon, or to turn any quavers,
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: like these difficult turns the present artists make after the
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: manner of freness. He used to be thrit being beaten
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: with many blows, as banishing the muses. And it behooved
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: the boys, while sitting in the school of the gymnastic master,
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: to cover the thigh, so that they might exhibit nothing
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: indecent to those outside, then again, after rising from the ground,
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: to sweep the sand together, and to take care not
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: to leave an impression of the person for their lovers.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: And no boy used in those days to anoint himself
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: below the navel, so that their bodies wore the appearance
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: of blooming health. Nor used he to go to his lover,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: having made up his voice in an effeminate tone, prostituting
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: himself with his eyes. Nor used it to be allowed,
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: when one was dining to take the head of the radish,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: or to snatch from their seniors dill or parsley, or
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: to eat fish, or to giggle, or to keep the
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: legs crossed. Unjust cause I antiquated and Dipoli alike and
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: full of grasshoppers, and of seconds, and of the Buffonian
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: festival just cause. Yet certainly these are those principles by
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: which mace system of education nurtured the men who fought
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: at Marathon. But you teach the men of the present day,
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: so that I am choked when at the Panathenaea a
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: fellow holding his shield before his person, neglect Tritogeneia when
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: they ought to dance. Wherefore, o youth, choose with confidence
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: me the better cause, and you will learn to hate
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: the agora, and to refrain from baths, and to be
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: ashamed of what is disgraceful, and to be enraged if
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: anyone jeer you, and to rise up from seats before
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: your seniors when they approach, and not to behave ill
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: towards your parents, and to do nothing else that is base,
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: because you are to form in your mind an image
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: of modesty, and not to dart into the house of
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: a dancing woman less while gaping after these things, being
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: struck with an apple by a wanton, you should be
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: damaged in your reputation. And not to contradict your father
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: in anything, nor by calling him Iapetus to reproach him
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: with the ills of age by which you were reared
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: in your infancy, unjust cause I shall believe him in
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: this o youth, by Bacchus, you will be like the
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: sons of Hippocrates, and they will call you a booby
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: just cause. Yet, certainly shall you spend your time in
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: the gymnastic schools, sleek and blooming, not chattering in the
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: marketplace rude jests like the youths of the present day,
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: nor dragged into court for a petty suit, greedy, pettifogging, knavish.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: But you shall descend to the academy and run races
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: beneath the sacred olives, along with some modest compeer, crowned
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: with white reeds redolent of you, and careless ease of
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: leaf shedding, white poplar, rejoicing in the season of spring,
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: when the plane tree whispers to the elm. If you
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: do these things which I say, and apply your mind
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: to these, you will ever have a stout chest, a
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: clear complexion, broad shoulders, a little tongue, large hips, little lewdness.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: But if you practice what the youths of the present
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: day do, you will have in the first place a
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: pallid complexion, small shoulders, a narrow chest, a large tongue,
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: little hips, great lewdness along sephism, And this deceiver will
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: persuade you to consider everything that is base to be honorable,
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: and what is honorable to be base. And in addition
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: to this he will fill you with the lewdness of
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: antimchus chorus, Oh thou, that practicest, most renowned, high towering wisdom,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: How sweetly does a modest grace attend your words? Happy?
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: Therefore were they who lived in those days, in the
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: times of former men? In reply, then to these, O,
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: thou that hast a dainty seeming, muse it behooveth thee
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: to say something new, since the man has gained renown,
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: and it appears you have need of powerful arguments against
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: him if you are to conquer the man and not
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: incur laughter. End of Part two recording by Expatriate in Bangor, Maine.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: Part three of the Clouds by Aristophanes, translated by William
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: James Hickey. This LibriVox recording is in the public domain.
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: Recording by Expatriate in Bangor Maine, Part three unjust cause.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: And yet I was choking in my heart and was
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: longing to confound all these with contrary maxims. For I
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: have been called among the deep thinkers the worst cause
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: on this very account that I first contrived how to
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: speak against both law and justice. And this art is
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: worth more than ten thousand staters. That one should choose
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: the worst cause and nevertheless be victorious. But mark how
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: I will confute the system of education on which he relies.
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: Who says in the first place that he will not
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: permit you to be washed with warm water? And yet
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: on what principle do you blame the warm baths? Just
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: cause because it is most vile and makes a man cowardly?
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Unjust cause? Stop, for immediately I seize and hold you
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: by the waist without escape. Come tell me which are
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: the sons of Jupiter? Do you deem to have been
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: the bravest in soul and to have undergone most labors?
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Just cause? I consider no men superior to Hercules? Unjust
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: cause where prey did you ever see cold Herculean baths?
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: And yet who was more valiant than he? Just cause
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: these are the very things which make the bath full
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: of youths always chattering all day long? But the poleestra's
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: empty unjust cause you next find fault with their living
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: in the market place. But I commend it, for if
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: it had been bad, Homer would never have been for
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: representing Nestor as an orator, nor all the other wise men.
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: I will return then from thence to the tongue which
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: this fellow says, our youths ought not to exercise, while
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: I maintain they should. And again he says they ought
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: to be modest, two very great evils. For tell me
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: to whom you have ever seen in any good accrew
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: through modesty, and confute me by your words just cause.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: To many. Paleas at any rate received his sword on
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: account of it unjust cause, a sword Mary, he got
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: a pretty piece of luck, the poor wretch, while Hyperbolus,
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: he of the lamps, got more than many talents by
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: his villainy, but by Jupiter, no sword just cause. And
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Paleas married Fetus too through his modesty unjust cause. And
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: then she went off and left him, for he was
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: not lustful nor an agreeable bedfellow to spend the night with.
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: Now a woman delights in being wantonly treated. But you
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: are an old dotard for two phidipities. Consider o youth,
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: all that attaches to modesty and of how many pleasures
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: you are about to be deprived of women, of games
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: at katibus, of dainties, of drinking, bouts, of giggling. And
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: yet what is life worth to you if you be
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: deprived of these enjoyments? Well I will pass from thence
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: to the necessities of our nature. You have gone astray,
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: you have fallen in love, You have been guilty of
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: some adultery, and then have been caught. You are undone,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: for you are unable to speak. But if you associate
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: with me, indulge your inclination, dance, laugh, and think nothing disgraceful.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: For if you should happen to be detected as an adulterer,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: you will make this reply to him that you have
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: done him no injury, and then refer him to Jupiter.
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: How even he is overcome by love and women? And
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: yet how could you, who are immortal, have greater power
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: than a god? Just cause? But what if he should
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: suffer the radish through obeying you and be depilated with
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: hot ashes? What argument will he be able to state
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: to prove that he is not a blaggard unjust cause?
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: And if he be a blaggered what harm will he suffer?
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: Just cause? Nay? What could he ever suffer still greater
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: than this? Unjust cause? What then will you say, if
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: you be conquered by me in this just cause? I
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: will be silent? What else can I do? Unjust cause? Come? Now,
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: tell me from what class do the advocates come just
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: cause from the blaggards? Unjust cause? I believe you? What? Then,
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: from what class do tragedians come just cause from the blaggards?
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Unjust cause? You say? Well, but from what class do
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: the public orators come just cause from the blaggards? Unjust cause?
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Then have you perceived that you say nothing to the purpose?
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: And look which class among the audience is the more numerous?
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: Just cause? Well, now I'm looking unjust cause? What then
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: do you see? Just cause, by the gods the blaggards
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: to be far more numerous this fellow at any rate,
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: I know in him yonder, and this fellow with the
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: long hair? Unjust cause? What then will you say, just
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: cause we are conquered, ye blaggards, by the gods, receive
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: my cloak, for I desert to you, exy the two
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: causes and re enter Socrates and Strepsiades. Socrates, what then,
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: whether do you wish to take and lead away this year, son,
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: Or shall I teach him to speak strepsieties? Teach him
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: and chastise him, And remember that you train him properly
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: on the one side, able for petty suits, but train
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: his other jaw able for the more important causes. Socrates,
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: make yourself easy. You shall receive him back a clever sophist. Strepsciodes, nay,
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: rather pale and wretched excellence, Socrates, strepscieties and phydipodies. Chorus.
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: Go ye, then, but I think that you will repent
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: of these proceedings. We wish to speak about the judges,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: what they will gain if at all they justly assist
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: this chorus. For in the first place, if you wish
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: to plow up your fields in spring, we will reign
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: for you first, but for the others after aid. And
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: then we will protect the fruits and the vines, so
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: that neither drought afflict them, nor excessive wet weather. But
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: if any mortal dishonor us, who are goddesses, let him
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: consider what evils he will suffer at our hands, obtaining
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: neither wine nor anything else from his farm. For when
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: his olives and vines sprout, they shall be cut down
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: with such slings will we smite them, And if we
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: see him making brick, we will rain, and we will
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: smash the tiles of his roof with round hailstones. And
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: if he himself or any one of his kindred or friends,
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: at any time marry, we will rain the whole night.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: So he will probably wish rather to have been even
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: in Egypt than to have judged badly. Enter strap Scietes
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: with a meal sack on his shoulder, strap Scietes, the fifth,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: the fourth, the third, after this, the second, and then
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: of all the days I most fear and dread and abominate.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: Immediately after this there is the old and new. For
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: everyone to whom I happen to be indebted, swears and
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: says he will ruin and destroy me, having made his
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: deposits against me. Though I only ask what is moderate
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: and just my good sir? One part don't take just now,
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: the other part put off. I pray, and the other
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: part remit. They say that thus they will never get
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: back their money, but abuse me as I am unjust,
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: and say they will go to law with me. Now.
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: Therefore let them go to law for it little concerns
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: me if Pydipodies has learned to speak well, I shall
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: soon know by knocking at the thinking shop. Knocks at
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: the door, boy, I say, boy, boy, enter Socrates, Socrates,
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: good morning, Strepsiades. Strepsiades, the same to you. But first
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: accept this present, for one ought to compliment the teacher
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: with a fee, and tell me about my son. If
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: he has learned that cause which you have just now
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: brought forward, Socrates, he has learned it, Strepsiades, Well done,
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: oh fraud all powerful queen, Socrates, so that you can
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: get clear off from whatever suit you please, Strepsia. Even
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: if witnesses were present when I borrowed the money, Socrates,
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: yea much more. Even if a thousand be present, Strepsiades,
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: then I will shout with a very loud shout, ho, weep,
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: you petty usurers, both you and your principles and your
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: compound interests, For you can no longer do me any harm,
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: because such a son as being reared for me in
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: this house, shining with a double edged tongue from my guardian,
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: the preserver of my house, a mischief to my enemies,
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: ending the sadness of the great woes of his father him,
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: Do thou run and summon from within to me. Socrates
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: goes into the house. Oh child, o son, come forth
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: from the house. Hear your father re enter Socrates leading
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: in phydipodies. Socrates, lo, here is the man strpscietes. Oh
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: my dear, my dear Socrates, take your son and depart,
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: exit Socrates Strepsieties, Oh, oh, my child, huzza husza, how
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: I am delighted at the first sight of your complexion.
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: Now indeed you are in the first place negative and
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: disputatious to look at, and this fashion native to the
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: place plainly appears that what do you say? And the
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: seeming to be injured, when I well know you are
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: injuring and inflicting a wrong. And in your countenance there
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: is the attic. Look now, therefore, see that you saved me,
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: since you have also ruined me bidipities, What prey do
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: you fear strepsieties, the old and new fidipities? Why is
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: any day old and new strepsieties? Yes, on which they
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: say that they will make their deposits against me bidipities,
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: then those that have made them will lose them. For
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: it is not possible that two days can be one day.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: Strepsieties can not it? Fidipities certainly not unless the same
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: woman can be both old and young at the same time, Strepsieties.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: And yet it is the law phidipities. For they do not,
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: I think rightly understand what the law means, Strepsieties. And
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: what does it mean, phidipities? The ancient Solon was, by
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: nature the common's friend, Strepsieties. This surely is nothing whatever
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: to the old and new phidipities. He therefore made the
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: summons for two days for the old and new, that
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: the deposits might be made on the first of the month, Strepsieties.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: Why pray, did he add the old day fidipities in order,
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: my good sir, that the defendants, being present a day before,
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: might compromise the matter of their own accord. But if not,
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: that they might be worried on the morning of the
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: new moon, Strepsieties. Why then do the magistrates not receive
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: the deposits on the new moon, but on the old
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: and new fidipities? They seem to me to do what
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: the four stallars do, in order that they may appreciate
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: the deposits as soon as possible. On this account, they
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: have the first pick by one day, Strepsieties. Turning to
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: the audience, Bravo, ye wretches, Why do you sit senseless?
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: The gain of us wise men being blocks cypher's mere
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: sheep jars heaped together. Wherefore I must sing an encomium
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: upon myself and this my son, on account of our
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: good fortune, Oh, happy strepsieties, How wise you are yourself,
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: and how excellent is the son whom you are rearing.
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: My friends and fellow tribesmen will say of me, envying
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: me when you prove victorious and arguing causes. But first
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: I wish to lead you in and entertain you strepsieties
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: and phydipodies Posseus entering with his summons. Witness then on
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: a man to throw away any part of his own property.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: Never but it were better than at once to put
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: away blushes, rather than now to have trouble. Since I
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: am now dragging you to be a witness for the
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: sake of my own money. And further, in addition to this,
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: I shall become an enemy to my fellow tribesmen. But
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: never while I live will I disgrace my country, but
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: will summon strupsiodes strpsieties from within whose there passias for
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: the old and new Strupsiodes. I call you to witness
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: that he has named it for two days? For what
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: matter do you summon me, Passias, for the twelve mina
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: which you received when you were buying the dapple gray horse, Strupsiodes,
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: a horse? Do you not hear I, whom you all
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: know to hate horsemanship? Passius? And by Jupiter, you swore
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: by the gods too that you would repay it, Strupsiedes,
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: Ay by Jove, For then my phydipodies did not yet
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: know the irrefragable argument, Passias. And do you now intend
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: on this account to deny the debt, Strupsiodes. Why what
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: good should I get else from his instruction? Passias? And
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: will you be willing to deny these upon oath of
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: the gods Strepsieties? What gods Passias, Jupiter, Mercury and Neptune. Strepsieties, Yes,
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: by Jupiter, and would pay down two a three obol
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: piece besides to swear Passius. Then may you perish some
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: day for your impudence, Strepsiedes. This man would be the
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: better for it if he were cleansed by rubbing with salt, Passias.
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: Ah me, how you deride me, Strepsieties, He will contain
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: six coi Passias By great Jupiter and the gods, you
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: certainly shall not do this to me with impunity, Strepsiades,
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: I like your gods amazingly, and Jupiter sworn by is
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: ridiculous to the knowing ones. Passias, you will assuredly suffer
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: punishment sometime or other for this. But answer and dismiss
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: me whether you are going to repay me my money
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: or not. Strepsieties, Keep quiet now, for I will presently
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: answer you distinctly. Runs into the house, Passios, to his summons. Witness,
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: what do you think he will do? Witness? I think
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: he will pay you. Re enter Strupsieties with a kneading trough, Strepsieties,
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: where is this man who asked me for his money?
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: Tell me what is this, Passios? What is this a
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: cardpas Strpscieties? And do you then ask me for your money?
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: Being such an ignorant person, I would not pay, not
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: even an obulus to anyone who called the car to
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: pay a Cardapas Passias, Then won't you pay me, Strepsieties,
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: not as far as I know? Will you not then
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: pack off as fast as possible from my door, Passius,
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: I will depart and be assured of this that I
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: will make deposit against you, or may I live no longer, Strepsiades,
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: then you will lose it besides, in addition to your
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: twelve minae. And yet I do not wish you to
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: suffer this because you name the car dapas foolishly exay
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: you possias and witness and enter Aminius, ah me ah me, Strepsieties. Ha,
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: whoever is this? Who is lamenting? Surely it was not
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: one of Karkinnus's deities that spoke, Aminius. But why do
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: you wish to know this? Who I am a miserable man, Strepsieties.
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: Then follow your own path, Aminius. Oh harsh fortune, oh fates,
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: breaking the wheels of my horses, Oh palace, how you
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: have destroyed me, Strepsieties. What evil prey has to Polyamus?
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: Ever done you? Amenius? Do not jeer me, my friend,
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: but order your son to pay me the money which
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: he received, especially as I have been unfortunate, Strepsieties. What
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: money is this, Aminius, that which he borrowed? Strepsieties. Then
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: you were really unlucky, as I think, Amenius, by the
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: gods I fell while driving my horses, Strepsieties. Why pray
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: do you talk nonsense as if you had fallen from
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: an ass Amenius, do I talk nonsense? If I wish
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: to recover my money, Strepsieties, you can't be in your
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: senses yourself, Aminias. Why pray Strpsiety, You appeared to me
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: to have had your brains shaken, as it were, Amenis.
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: Then you appear to me, by hermes, to be going
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: to be summoned if you will not pay me the
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: money strap Scieties. Tell me now whether you think that
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: Jupiter always rains fresh rain on each occasion, or that
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: the sun draws from below the same water back again, Amenius,
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: I know not which, nor do I care, Strepsieties. How then,
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: is it just that you should recover your money if
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: you know nothing of meteorological matters, Amenis. Well, if you
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: are in want pay me the interest of my money, Strepsieties,
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: what sort of animal is this interest? Amenius? Most assuredly,
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: The money is always becoming more and more every month
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: and every day, as the time slips away. Strepsieties. You say, well,
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: but then is it possible that you consider the sea
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: to be greater now than formerly? Amenius, No, by Jupiter,
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: but equal, for it is not fitting that it should
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: be greater, Strepsiades. And how then you wretch. Does this
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: become no way greater though the rivers flow into it?
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: While you seek to increase your money? Will you not
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: take yourself off from my house? Bring me the goad,
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: enter servant with a goad, Amenias, I call you to
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: witness these things. Strepsieties beating him go. Why do you delay?
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: Won't you march? Mister blood horse, Aminias? Is not this
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: an insult? Prey? Strepsieties? Will you move quickly? Tricks him
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: behind with the god I'll lay on you goating you
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: behind you out rigor do you fly? Amenias runs off?
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: I thought I should stir you together with your wheels
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: and your two horse chariots Exit Strepsieties chorus. What a
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: thing it is to love evil courses for this old
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: man having loved them, which wi is to withhold the
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: money that he borrowed. And he will certainly meet with
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: something today which will perhaps cause this sophist to suddenly
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: receive some misfortune in return for the neighbories he has
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: begun for. I think that he will presently find what
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: has been long boiling up, that his son is skillful
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: to speak opinions opposed to justice, so as to overcome
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: all with whomsoever he holds converse, even if he advanced
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: most villainous doctrines. And perhaps perhaps his father will wish
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: that he were even speechless Strepsieties running out of the
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: house pursued by his son. Hello, Hello, oh neighbors and
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: kinsfolk and fellow tribesmen, defend me by all means? Who
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: am being beaten? Ah? Me unhappy man from my head
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: and jaw wretch? Do you beat your father by dipities? Yes, father, Strepsieties,
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: You see him owning that he beats me by dipities, certainly, Strepsieties, Oh,
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: wretch and parricide and housebreaker by dipities. Say the same
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: things of me again and more. You know that I
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: take pleasure in being much abused, Strepsieties. You blaggered, fidipities,
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: Sprinkle me with roses in abundance, Strepsieties. Do you beat
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: your father fidipities? And will prove too by Jupiter that
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: I beat you with justice? Strepsieties, Oh, thou most rascally,
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: Why how can it be just to beat a father fidipities?
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: I will demonstrate it and will overcome you in argument. Strepsieties.
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: Will you overcome me in this Fidipities yea by much
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: and easily. But choose which of the two causes you
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: wish to speak strepsieties of want to causes fidipities the
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: better or the worse strepsieties. Marry, I did get you
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: taught to speak against justice by Jupiter, my friend. If
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: you are going to persuade me of this, that it
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: is just and honorable for a father to be beaten
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: by his sons bidipities, I think I shall certainly persuade
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: you so that when you have heard not even eve
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: and you yourself will say anything against it. Strepsiades. Well,
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: now I am willing to hear what you have to say. Chorus.
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: It is your business, old man, to consider in what
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: way you shall conquer the man. For if he were
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: not relying upon something, he would not be so licentious.
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: But he is emboldened by something. The boldness of the
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: man is evident. Now you ought to tell to the
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: chorus from what the contention first arose, and this you
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: must do by all means. Strepsiodes, Well, now I will
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: tell you from what we first began to rail at
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: one another after we had feasted. As you know, I
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: first bade him take a liar and sing a song
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: of Simonides, the sharing of the ram, But he immediately
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: said it was old fashioned to play on the lyre
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: and sing while drinking like a woman grinding parched barley
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: by dipdies. For ought you not then immediately to be
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: beaten and trampled on, bidding me sing just as if
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: you were entertaining cicadae strepsciodes. He expressed, however, such opinions
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: then too within, as he does now, and he asserted
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: that Simonides was a bad poet. I bore it at first,
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: with difficulty. Indeed, yet nevertheless I bore it. And then
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: I bade him at least take a myrtle wreath and
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: recite to me some portion of Escylus. And then he
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: immediately said, shall I consider Escylus the first among the poets,
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: full of empty sound, unpolished, bombastic, using rugged words, And
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: hereupon you can't think how my heart panted. But nevertheless
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: I restrained my passion and said, at least recite some
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: passage of the more modern poets, of whatever kind these
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: clever things be, And he immediately sang a passage of Euripides.
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: How a brother, oh averter of ill debauched his uterine sister,
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: and I bore it no longer, but immediately assailed him
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: with many abusive reproaches. And then after that, as was natural,
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: we hurled word upon word. Then he springs upon me,
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: and then he was wounding me and beating me and
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: throttling me by dipodies. Were you not therefore justly beaten?
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: Who do not praise you? Your ripides, the wisest of poets, Strepsieties,
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: He the wisest. Oh what shall I call you? But
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: I shall be beaten again by dippities? Yes, by Jupiter,
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: with justice, Strepsiades. Why how with justice, who, oh shameless fellow,
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: reared you understanding all your wishes when you list what
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: you meant? If you said brynn, I understanding it. Used
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: to give you to drink, and when you ask for
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: a mammon, I used to come to you with bread,
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: and you used no longer to say Cacan. Then I
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: used to take and carry you out of doors and
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: hold you before me. But you now throttling me, who
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: was bowling and crying out because I wanted to ease myself,
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: had not the heart to carry me forth out of doors,
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: you wretch? But I did it there while I was
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: being throttled chorus, I fancy the hearts of the youths
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: are panting to hear what he will say. For if
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: after having done such things, he shall persuade him by speaking,
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: I would not take the height of the old folks,
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: even at the price of a chickpea. It is thy business,
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: author and upheaver of new words, to seek some means
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: of persuasion, so that you shall seem to speak justly
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: fy Dipities. How pleasant it is to be acquainted with
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: new and clever things and to be able to despise
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: the established laws. For I, when I applied my mind
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: to horsemanship alone, used not to be able to utter
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: three words before I made a mistake. But now, since
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: he himself has made me cease from these pursuits, and
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: I am acquainted with subtle thoughts and arguments and speculations,
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: I think I shall demonstrate that it is just to
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: chastise one's father stepsieties. Ride then by Jupiter, since it
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: is better for me to keep a team of four
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: horses than to be killed with a beating by dipities,
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: I will pass over to that part of my discourse
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: where you interrupted me, And first I will ask you this,
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: did you beat me when I was a boy strepsieties?
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: I did through good will and concern for you? Fy dipities, pray,
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: tell me, is it not just that I also should
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: be well inclined toward you in the same way and
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: beat you? Since this is to be well inclined to
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: give a beating? For why ought your body to be
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: exempt from blows? In? Mind? Not? And yet I too
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: was born free? The boys weep? And do you not
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: think it is right that a father should weep? You
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: will say that it is ordained by law that this
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: should be the lot of boys. But I would reply
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: that old men are boys twice over, and that it
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: is the more reasonable that the old should weep than
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: the young, inasmuch as it is less just that they
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: should err strepsiades. It is nowhere ordained by law that
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: a father should suffer this by dipities. Was it not
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: then a man like you and me who first proposed
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: this law, and by speaking persuaded the ancients? Why then
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: is it less lawful for me also, in turn to
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: propose henceforth a new law for the sons that they
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: should beat their fathers. In turn, But as many blows
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: as we received before the law was made. We remit,
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: and we concede to them, our having been thrashed without return.
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: Observe the cocks in these their animals, how they punished
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: their fathers. And yet in what do they differ from us,
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: except that they do not write decrees, Strepsiodies, Why, then,
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: since you imitate the cocks in all things, do you
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: not both eat dung and sleep on a perch? Fidipities.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: It is not the same thing, my friend, nor would
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: it appear so to Socrates. Strepsieties. Therefore, do not beat me,
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: otherwise you will one day blame yourself Bidipities. Why how, Strepsiades,
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: since I am justly entitled to chastise you, and you
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: to chastise your son if you should have one, fy Dipities.
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: But if I should not have one, I shall have
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: wept for nothing, and you will die laughing at me, Strepsidies.
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: To me, indeed, oh, Comrades, he seems to speak justly,
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: and I think we ought to concede to them. What
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: is fitting? For it is proper that we should weep
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: if we do not act justly. Bidipities, consider still another
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: maxim Strepsieties no, for I shall perish if I do
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: by dipities. And yet perhaps you will not be vexed
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: at suffering what you now suffer. Strepsiades, how pray for
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: inform me what good you will do me by this?
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: By dipities, I will beat my mother just as I
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: have you. Strepsiades, What do you say? What do you say?
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: This other again is a greater wickedness by dipities. But
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: what if, having the worst cause, I shall conquer you
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: in arguing proving that it is right to beat one's mother, Strepsiades.
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: Most assuredly, if you do this, nothing will hinder you
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: from casting yourself and your worst cause into the pit
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: along with Socrates. These evils have I suffered through you,
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: o clouds, having entrusted all my affairs to you. Chorus. Nay, rather,
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: you are yourself the cause of these things, having turned
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: yourself to wicked courses. Strepsiades, Why pray did you not
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: tell me this then? But excited with hopes of rustic
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: and aged men, Chorus, we always do this to him
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: whom we perceive to be a lover of wicked courses,
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: until we precipitate him into misfortune, so that he may
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: learn to fear the gods. Strepsiades. Ah Me, it is
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: severe o clouds, but it is just for I ought
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: not to have withheld the money which I borrowed. Now therefore,
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: come with me, my dearest son, that you may destroy
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: the blaggard Chiraphon and Socrates who deceived you and me Fidipdies.
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: I will not endure my teachers Strepsiades, Yes, yes, reverence,
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: paternal Jove, fidipities, paternal Jove. Quoth a how antiquated you are?
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: Why is there any Jove? Strepsiades, there is phidipities, There
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: is not no for vortex reigns having expelled Jupiter Strepsiades,
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: he has not expelled him. But I fancied this on
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: account of this vortex here, ah me, unhappy man, when
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: I even took you, who are of earthenware for a
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: gun god fidipities here rave and babble to yourself exit phydipities, strepsieties.
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: Uh me, what madness? How mad then I was when
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: I ejected the gods on account of Socrates. But oh,
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: dear Hermes, by no means be wroth with me, nor
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: destroy me, But pardon me, since I have gone crazy
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: through prating and become my adviser. Whether I shall bring
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: in action and prosecute them, or whatever you think, you
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: advise me rightly, not permitting me to get up a lawsuit,
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: but as soon as possible to set fire to the
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: house of the prating fellows. Come hither, Come hither, xantheus,
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: Come forth with a ladder and with a mattock, And
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: then mount upon the thinking shop, and dig down the roof,
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: if you love your master, until you tumble the house
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: upon them. Xantheus mounts upon the roof. But lest someone
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: bring me a lighted torch, and I'll make some of
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: them this day suffer punishment, even if they be ever
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: so much impostors. First disciple from within, Hello, Hello, stropsciety
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: it is your business o torch to send forth abundant flame.
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: Mounts upon the roof. First disciple, what are you doing,
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: fellow stripscietes, What am I doing? Why? What? Else? Then?
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: Chopping logic with the beams of your house sets the
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: house on fire. Second disciple, from within, You will destroy us,
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: You will destroy us, strepsieties, For I also wish this
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: very thing, unless my magic deceived my hopes, or I
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: should somehow fall first and break my neck. Socrates, from within,
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: Hello you, what are you doing? Pray you fellow on
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: the roof, Strepsiades, I am walking on air and speculating
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: about the sun. Socrates, ah me unhappy, I shall be suffocated,
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: wretched men Chyrophon, and I, miserable man, shall be burnt
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: to death. Strepsieties, for what has come into your heads
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: that you acted insolently toward the gods and pride into
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: the seat of the moon chase Pelts. Smite them for
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: many reasons, but as especially because you know that they
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: offended against the gods. The thinking shop is burned down. Chorus,
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: lead the way out, for we have sufficiently acted as
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: chorus for today. Exeunt omnes. End of Part three recording
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: by expatriate in Bangor, Maine. End of the Clouds by Aristophanes,
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: translated by William James Hickey,