Latest / Financial Survival Network / Crypto-Backed Loans Made Easy -- Mauricio Di Bartolomeo #5880
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- 0:00So yeah, we do several things to provide transparency to our clients or borrowers.
- 0:05We have a bit of a name as the most transparent or the most
- 0:08responsible company in the space. They used to call us a few years back
- 0:12the boring Canadians, but after twenty twenty two, be boring became a very
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- 0:42now more than ever, And welcome. You are listening to watching the Financial
- 0:51Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutts, And hey, we're second
- 0:56to last week of August and things are racing by, but the world waits
- 1:00for no one. And well, hey, it's just in Vegas for a
- 1:06weekend to go see a concert and meet some friends. And it rained the
- 1:11entire time I was there, which was actually a good thing because instead of
- 1:15it being one hundred degrees, it was eighty degrees. A little human,
- 1:19which is unusual for Vegas if you've been there in the summer. But innovation
- 1:23continues. Probably no place where innovation is taking faster than taking hold faster than
- 1:30in the crypto sector. Mauricio di Bartolomeo is with us and now and his
- 1:38company, and I hope I say this right is Leaden and Hey Mauricio,
- 1:47welcome to the show. So Leaden Private Wealth, Leaden Capital, tell us
- 1:53what exactly you do in the crypto space? Hey, Gary, thanks for
- 1:57having me, sure and happy to tell you about what we do. So
- 2:00our product, our flagship product is very simple. We issue dollar loans backed
- 2:06by bitcoin collateral. So that is a product that gets you dollar liquidity without
- 2:10having to sell your bitcoin or create a taxable event. So the main benefits
- 2:15to this product is that you get the dollars you need and maintain ownership of
- 2:20your bitcoin, so you get to keep the upside of the asset appreciates while
- 2:23you have the loan. By taking a loan and not selling, you're not
- 2:25creating a taxable event, so in most jurisdictions that is avatigis from tax perspective.
- 2:30Then you can repay the loan and get your collateral back. That is
- 2:35the product we've been doing this as twenty eighteen, we processed thousands of these,
- 2:38almost six hundred million dollars worth of these loans. And the other product
- 2:45that we offer is the ability to learn interest on both US stable cooin dollars
- 2:49stable coins. That's how we financed the bitcoin back loans. So we pay
- 2:53nine toward poll Newark. We charge to a point nine to the borrowers,
- 2:55and you can also earn interest on your bitcoin, so passive income on your
- 3:00So sorry, all things lending and borrowing for bitcoin of stable coins, all
- 3:02right, got it? So okay? Well, yeah, any collateralized lending,
- 3:10especially for a digital asset, person's gonna wonder how do I know my
- 3:15collateral is safe? How do I know the companies are going to blow up
- 3:20and I lose all my collateral. You must have some type of trust arrangement
- 3:25to secure the collateral. So yeah, we do several things to provide transparency
- 3:31to our clients or borrowers. We have a bit of a name as the
- 3:36most transparent or the most responsible company in the space. They used to call
- 3:39us a few years back, the boring Canadians, but after twenty twenty two,
- 3:45be Boring became a very positive thing and already give us apprentices exactly boring
- 3:52is sex seed again, as we like to say, But in twenty twenty
- 3:55one it was. It was a hard pitch because back then we were to
- 4:00people when other companies were introducing a new tokens and new ways to speculate,
- 4:04we were introducing proof of reserves. So in proof of reserves is a process
- 4:09whereby we bring in accountant to Lettin every six months to verify the assets that
- 4:13we have on behalf of clients and to verify where those assets are in our
- 4:16accounts and our exchange partners, lending partners, custody, etc. Banks and
- 4:20they verify that we have more than of assets to cover our client liabilities.
- 4:25They produce a report. The report is made available to our clients. This
- 4:29happens every six months, our next ones up in October. And the other
- 4:32thing that we do is we produce what's called the open book report, so
- 4:36all of our clients when they log into our accounts in their growth account dashboards
- 4:41or you can check this out at our blog as well. Every month we
- 4:44publish how we are utilizing the assets at Lettin to generate the interests that we
- 4:48pay out. So for example, on the US and EC side, we
- 4:51will show you how much or what percentage of those dollars are being deployed to
- 4:57finance a bitcoin back loan book and the bitcoins. We will show you how
- 5:00many, how much more percentative each of that pool it's led to each institution,
- 5:04and how many institutions are actively borrowing from that pool. So our clients
- 5:09can see both how we are accounting for the assets, how we are utilizing
- 5:13the assets, and they can basically make their own decisions with that information.
- 5:17Okay, so this is audited, these reports, it's not an audit.
- 5:24It's called the proof of reserves at the station and it's produced by a group
- 5:28called the Network. They are to certified public accountant. But again, this
- 5:31is not what's called a full audit. That's something that we are planning to
- 5:35do further down the line. But today it's a proof of reserves at the
- 5:40station and it is the ongoing overbook purports that are available. Oh yeah,
- 5:44gotcha, gotcha? All right, So how is business? By the way,
- 5:49it's good. I mean, it's the you've seen what happened in the
- 5:54markets last year. Twenty twenty two was a year where a lot of our
- 5:59competitors, unfortunately, who were doing a lot of irresponsible things and acting recklessly,
- 6:05they went under and by virtue of that they were fortunately took down a
- 6:11lot of client assets with them, and there were up in twenty twenty two,
- 6:15there was about I would I want to say, there were about senator
- 6:17eight venues or platform where you could go borrow against your bitcoin or against your
- 6:21digital asset. Today there's basically us left. There aren't that many places left
- 6:30to do this. And the reality is that these products are non discretionary in
- 6:36the sense that you don't wake up in the morning and say today is a
- 6:40great day for a loan. You know alone, You take a loan because
- 6:44you need a loan, and the reasons the reasons why you need a loan
- 6:47don't necessarily change day to day, or they don't change because of a particular
- 6:51event occurred, like say FDx. So, for example, a person that
- 6:56was bitcoin wealthy two years ago and needed a loan to buy or a property
- 7:00or to diversify away from bitcoint and that platform is no longer there, they
- 7:05will not stop needing a loan, you know, they still need a loan
- 7:10this year. And so we're seeing a lot of the demand Carlson Train back
- 7:14to lead it, and we are becoming the leader. We are the leader
- 7:18and this product offering, and so it's something that we are We're not happy
- 7:25that these bad actors cause so much pain and damage to people, but it
- 7:30is great to see that these these people are no longer in the industry,
- 7:33and so a lot of the volume and the flows are concentrating back to the
- 7:36good actors and uh and I'm very bullish and optimistic on the future of this
- 7:42industry and of this particular product, mainly to them from Venezuela. So I'm
- 7:46from the part of the world where you cannot get ah, you can't get
- 7:49a single digit dollar financing loan for a house. Mortgages largely don't exist for
- 7:57the not extremely wealthy people outside of the US, Canada, Australia. Maybe
- 8:01they always see OECD countries. And now with bitcoin, I can give somebody
- 8:07alone in Colombia at the same rates that I'm issuing alone in Canada, with
- 8:11the same level of service, with the same treatment that wasn't out that couldn't
- 8:18be done before bitcoin, and that will change the world. Okay, So
- 8:22places like Venezuela are not exactly known to be the freest places on the planet
- 8:30for sure, So is the government trying to stop you there? Have they
- 8:37tried to, Have they taken any steps to restrict you, or can they
- 8:41even do it? So in many countries there has been no effort to put
- 8:48in a framework for the regulating offerings in crypto assets. So for example,
- 8:54in the even in the country like the US, you're just starting to see
- 8:58a framework emerge for some of these services. Similar in places like Canada or
- 9:03different parts of the world. And even when these frameworks are emerging, they
- 9:07are emerging for a particular activity. So for example, in Canada, they
- 9:11have a brain framework now for trading platforms, but they do not have a
- 9:16great framework for lending offerings. So what that What that does in the way
- 9:22we adapt the regulation is when a product or a particular service is regulated in
- 9:28a particular country, we have to go make sure that our product abides by
- 9:31those local regulations in the countries or places where there is no regulation yet.
- 9:37Uh, it's it's uh, it's not as uh, there is not as
- 9:41restrictive today because again the rules have not been laid out today. So in
- 9:46a place like the other thing that you have with a country like Venezuela is
- 9:50that it has an illegitimate government. So you could even question, uh,
- 9:56you know, I would question deeply any type of legislation coming out of that
- 10:00body, because again it's an illegitimate body of government. Okay, well we
- 10:05could get into that. So and it's the great equalizer. Yeah and all
- 10:11right, So how hard is it to set up an account? It's very
- 10:16simple. It's you can register an account with Letting in under two minutes.
- 10:20The services and products that are available to you will largely vary depending on the
- 10:24jurisdiction that you are in. So for example, in a place like the
- 10:28US, we can offer our dollar loans backed by bitcoin in a number of
- 10:31states, not all of them, but the vast majority of the states,
- 10:35or a number of the states. I shouldn't say a vasque majority consistent,
- 10:39but it's about half. In Canada, same thing, we can offer bitquoickbac
- 10:43loans broadly speaking into most provinces. But for example, if you are in
- 10:48a country like anyway, most of Latin America, I would say with our
- 10:52leaving a specific country would have access to our biquinmac loans, our b two
- 10:56x loans are yield product and passive income on both your stable coin and your
- 11:01bitcoin BCNS and a plethora of other services that we have. But again that
- 11:07varies depending on where in the world you are. But setting up an account,
- 11:09it takes on the two minutes anyone watching or listening go to letting dot
- 11:13io and set up an account. Very cool. So so it's easy to
- 11:16do, huh. That's the beauty with digital assets is you know, for
- 11:22somebody in where I grew up in Venezuela. You know, if you are
- 11:26a person that lives in a smaller city, there are no band branches in
- 11:31your smaller cities. Sometimes you have to travel three to four hours to set
- 11:33up an account any fascional institution. It's it's very difficult to have access to
- 11:41both physical or digital banking infrastructure in a lot of Latin America. And what
- 11:46digital assets have done is that now everybody with a phone can open an account
- 11:50and letting and have an address where they can receive dollars from anywhere in the
- 11:56world. Because now anybody can send you a crypto asset stable point and you
- 12:00can receive that into your account. You can already start earning interests you can
- 12:03start making payments internationally, and so it connects you to a wealth of services
- 12:09of much higher quality in a much faster way and gets to people that are
- 12:16in remote locations because all you need is an Internet connection. Gotcha all right?
- 12:22So where do we go? How do you set it up? So
- 12:26to set up an account, you would go to lettin dot io at the
- 12:30top right hand corner. You will see a button that says sign up and
- 12:33you can click and sign up. We are a centralized entity, so that
- 12:37means that we have to go through the know your Client process, so you
- 12:41will have to provide your personal information a copy of your ID to get through
- 12:46the process that should take you about five minutes to complete. Our team should
- 12:50renew a process that with about within about twenty four to forty eight hours,
- 12:52you will receive a note that your account has been approved. Once your account
- 12:56is approved, you can log in and you will see if the addresses to
- 13:01fund your account either in stable coins or in bitcoin. And once your account
- 13:05is funded, you have access to the products there are available to you,
- 13:09and if you have any questions about anything that is on the platform where what
- 13:13is available, you can email our team at support at that and dot io.
- 13:16We get back to clients within hours, you know, less than an
- 13:20hour most of the times, and our team is fantastic helping people get set
- 13:24up. All right, excellent, Well, it sounds very innovative and I'm
- 13:30sure it's for some of you out there. It will be very useful.
- 13:33That's where you get to keep your You get to have your cake and eat
- 13:39it too effectively. Obviously for a fee. Nobody's in this for nothing and
- 13:43sounds safe. Appreciate you coming on, Ory CEO. There's a link to
- 13:48Leaden in the show notes this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com. Make
- 13:54sure you click it while you're there. Sign up for your free newsletter.
- 13:56Mauricio bet a total pleasure, good luck, Thanks so much, Thank you,
- 14:01Cary, thanks for listening to carry Lets's Financial Survival Network, your solution
- 14:07to today's trying times. For the latest, go to Financial Survival Network dot
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