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1-13-26 Hour 3 - Avs fall in OT, Athlete wear and tear/When we'll know about the Broncos/Extend George Paton · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Back to even straight figures, Tell.
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  Speaker 3: The balls, you put an ankle, shop set pass long time.
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  Speaker 2: Self and the Apps have time.
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  Speaker 4: The game at won from the car.
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  Speaker 3: It's fourteenth of the season, but it all started with
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  Speaker 3: Martin nights screwing. It came into the ice like a
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  Speaker 3: cork screw.
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  Speaker 5: Spins back towards the neck, back up up against the
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  Speaker 5: gold world.
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  Speaker 6: You know what's funny about that? That pause after you
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  Speaker 6: say screwing makes me giggle every time I hear.
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  Speaker 4: It, as.
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  Speaker 2: Just an accentuation there.
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  Speaker 6: Uh huh uh. The Abs do lose in OT last night.
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  Speaker 6: With about sixty seconds left, Toronto puts one on the board.
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  Speaker 6: They win four to three and ot, but the Apps
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  Speaker 6: come away with a point and continue. After Dallas won
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  Speaker 6: last night, it now goes to eleven points up on
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  Speaker 6: Dallas with a game in hand. I'm still in really
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  Speaker 6: really great position, but it was overtimes just not their friend.
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  Speaker 6: Whether it's overtime or shootout, doesn't seem to go their way.
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  Speaker 6: It's like the only thing this year that didn't go
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  Speaker 6: their way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the Toronto Maple Leafs were also under five
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  Speaker 3: hundred beyond regulation. They were five and six in overtime
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  Speaker 3: and Er and Wan in a shootout. So I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 3: It's it's just a really good hockey game that I
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  Speaker 3: saw last night and called last night. It was just
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  Speaker 3: a really good game. I really enjoyed it. Top to bottom.
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  Speaker 3: They are again. I I'd like to have seen the
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  Speaker 3: extra point for the Avalanche, but you know, again that
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  Speaker 3: ot is a crap shoot. Austin Matthews, guys, I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to tell you that his shot in the third period
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  Speaker 3: that was the go ahead goal at the time. It's
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  Speaker 3: just little things. Manson gets picked by Morgan Riley at
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  Speaker 3: the blue line a tiny bit, so what he cannot
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  Speaker 3: do is he cannot back into the zone and gap
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  Speaker 3: up on Austin Matthews. He's now got to turn and
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  Speaker 3: skate with him, and it allows Vic just that tiny
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  Speaker 3: little bit of room for Matthews to drag that puck
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  Speaker 3: Ian and then you know, he drags it Ian, finds
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  Speaker 3: a hole and then fires it. It's such a high
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  Speaker 3: end play by Austin Matthews that I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: many guys in this league could do that, but it's
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  Speaker 3: probably maybe on two hands you can count it. It
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  Speaker 3: was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: The Maple Leafs are always going to be that that
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  Speaker 4: beautiful regular season threat, but come postseason, they'll find a
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  Speaker 4: way to you know what I'm saying, it's, well, you
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  Speaker 4: know they're watching them. It's it's that beautiful car that
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  Speaker 4: you know is destined to crash on the third turn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right about that, or break down on you.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps they got off to a great start this year.
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  Speaker 3: Matthews got off to any start. He's got eight goals
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  Speaker 3: in his last eight games. Uh, their power play was
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  Speaker 3: the worst in the National Hockey League, and they fired
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  Speaker 3: the assistant coach in charge of it. It's of Art,
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  Speaker 3: and then they hired Steve Sullivan and it's really picked up.
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  Speaker 3: Although the Abs did a good job on the PK
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  Speaker 3: last night, really good job. But they're they're playing their
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  Speaker 3: best hockey of the year right now. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that Wall made some really good saves and he got
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  Speaker 3: a little bit fortunate that one shot that went off.
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  Speaker 3: He went down and it went off the just the
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  Speaker 3: very corner of his of the end of his right
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  Speaker 3: pad and stayed out of the net. You're like, there's
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  Speaker 3: no way that that pad makes that say, there's no
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  Speaker 3: way that it's you know, it's an inch away from
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  Speaker 3: a goal. There's no way. In overtime McKinnon, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he goes off the shaft of his goalstick. It hits
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  Speaker 3: the underneath part of the crossbar, but doesn't bounce in
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  Speaker 3: no way, but there was a way.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, speaking of goaltending, Minor gets the start again.
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  Speaker 6: So I guess that Wedgwood is dealing with a little something.
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  Speaker 6: Do you expect Minor to go again the next game
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  Speaker 6: or do you think Wedgewood will be back?
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  Speaker 3: I think Wedgewood will be back. Also good news, Mackenzie
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  Speaker 3: Blackwood did skate yesterday morning as well. That was positive.
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  Speaker 3: And here's what Bennar's reasoning was. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: I think on at least two of those goals, there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing trip Minor anybody else can do. The one off
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  Speaker 3: burned skate, the breakaway by McMahon, I was a great
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  Speaker 3: shot by that kid too. He had twenty goals last year,
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  Speaker 3: he's got fourteen this year. Wow, you know, And again,
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  Speaker 3: the one that snapped by his glove from Matthews. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's just such a hard shot that you're rec action time.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's very athletic. It's just unbelievable. But I think
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  Speaker 3: that Wedgewood again, he was good enough to back up
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  Speaker 3: last night, wasn't. They just wanted to hold him out.
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  Speaker 3: Is probably more precautionary than anything. I'm sure he'll go
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  Speaker 3: on Friday night. The Abs have three days off here
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  Speaker 3: and then the Predators will be in town as we're
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  Speaker 3: giving away tickets. Blackwood skated, so I think everything's going
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  Speaker 3: to be fine.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, as said coach Jared ben Narm will
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  Speaker 6: Ruter Plumbing proudly rooting for Colorado's hockey team, So stay
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  Speaker 6: tuned for that.
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  Speaker 4: Last night, can I get into my old concept of
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  Speaker 4: why I think injuries are up across the board in sports?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we had that short debate a couple.
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  Speaker 4: Segments ago when we played the Danissil comments about in
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  Speaker 4: the eighties one of those Nuggets teams, the starters played
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  Speaker 4: every single game, but two five starters missed two games total.
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  Speaker 4: Among the five and you just don't see that today game.
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  Speaker 4: Why why can't they stay healthy? It's a faster game.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like they're more athletic, but the pace is
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  Speaker 4: not that much different than it was. And a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people have chimed in. I think the biggest, the
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  Speaker 4: biggest argument for why athletes are more injury prone today
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  Speaker 4: is really simple. It's not what they're doing in their
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  Speaker 4: respective sports now. It's what they've done growing up to
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  Speaker 4: get here. It's the extra practices that they've put in,
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  Speaker 4: the extra games, the extra training. I'll give you an example,
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  Speaker 4: tell you exactly what I'm talking about. Mark, Do you
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  Speaker 4: remember the name Todd Marinovitch. Of course, tell tell powder
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  Speaker 4: who Todd marinav.
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  Speaker 6: His dad was like a tyrant against him. I know
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  Speaker 6: this story.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily a tyrant, but he just a tyrant.
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  Speaker 2: He was just like a scientific kid, scientific dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So eventually drafted by the Raiders and had
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  Speaker 3: a short career in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: So Marinovitch was like the first of his kind to
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  Speaker 4: go into focus training.
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  Speaker 2: That is what I call it, focus training.
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  Speaker 4: Like go all out on everything to get him to
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  Speaker 4: a certain level. That's happening all the time with athletes today,
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  Speaker 4: focus training, They're going to respective schools for this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: They're doing the they're doing clinics, they're doing skills sessions,
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  Speaker 4: they're doing they're playing and working their bodies more at
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  Speaker 4: a young age than they ever have.
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  Speaker 2: Hell.
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  Speaker 4: Most when you were in high school, did you have
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  Speaker 4: weight training sessions when you're playing sports?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, little, yeah, But it wasn't like today. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like it.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't mandatory really either.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't just whatever, Yeah that's.
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  Speaker 3: Good in camp, yeah, but no, But otherwise.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's baked in. It's baked in. You are you
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  Speaker 4: are all in on this stuff. I think bodies are being.
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  Speaker 3: And you're all in year round. You're all in year round.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's around.
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  Speaker 4: These guys' bodies are already breaking down by the time
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  Speaker 4: they get to this damn league.
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  Speaker 6: Now, when I was playing baseball, now this wasn't like
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  Speaker 6: an AAU circuit. But I'll tell you guys right now,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have a break. But by the time I
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  Speaker 6: was like eleven years old, I played the spring, I
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  Speaker 6: played in the summer, I played in the fall, and
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  Speaker 6: then in the winter. You couldn't play games because it
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  Speaker 6: was too cold outside. But you go to a dome
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  Speaker 6: and you'd throw and hit the batting cages and do that,
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  Speaker 6: and it was all year. There was no break. And
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  Speaker 6: I wonder why my elbow still hurts to this day,
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  Speaker 6: and most guy's elbows hurts because you never gave your
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  Speaker 6: arm rest. You're constantly throwing all the time. And I
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  Speaker 6: don't know how prevalent that was back in the eighties
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  Speaker 6: and nineties for kids growing up. I doubt it was wabe.
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  Speaker 6: They'd play baseball in the spring and then probably play
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  Speaker 6: football in the fall, or basketball or something else.
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  Speaker 2: But don't discount weight training either.
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  Speaker 4: The weight training things a big deal, like developing muscles
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  Speaker 4: at a young age.
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  Speaker 2: Never weight trained.
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  Speaker 4: The Hell's like in middle school? Do you think we
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  Speaker 4: weight trained in middle school? They got these guys lifting weights.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen.
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  Speaker 4: Kids twelve years old lift weights. I'm like, are you crazy?
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  Speaker 4: I think the muscle structure of a human being can
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  Speaker 4: only go so far. Ligaments are falling apart because they
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  Speaker 4: can't handle the muscle size.
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  Speaker 6: Texture makes a decent point here. Jamal Murray's dad was
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  Speaker 6: very harsh on I'm grown up on that stuff. Jamal
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  Speaker 6: has a lot of Nixon Poles and stuff like that
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  Speaker 6: that he deals with a lot of them. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: just remember blaming his dad or anything. It's just like
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  Speaker 6: that's your training, over and over and over from a
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  Speaker 6: really young age, has to do something.
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  Speaker 4: A guy like Nikola Jokicic doesn't have any muscular issues
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  Speaker 4: soft tissue issues.
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  Speaker 2: As far as I know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, his knee injury was a fluke injury. He
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  Speaker 4: played multiple sports growing up. He did a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of everything. I don't think he was in the weight room,
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  Speaker 4: you know, weight training at the age of twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty obvious from past pictures he wasn't, right, Brett.
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  Speaker 4: I think that stuff catches up to you. All I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying is the mile that you're putting on your car.
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  Speaker 4: Eventually the miles will catch up to you. And when
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  Speaker 4: they get to the pro level, they already have so
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  Speaker 4: many damn miles. Yeah, bro't tell me because of pace though,
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  Speaker 4: Don't don't say that because the pace hasn't changed. The
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  Speaker 4: pace hasn't changed. The pace is the same the game,
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  Speaker 4: the dimensions of the court are the same. The athletes
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  Speaker 4: are running the same. They may not be as athletic
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  Speaker 4: and his muscle bound. Sure, but the pace hasn't changed
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  Speaker 4: one bit.
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  Speaker 2: Brad.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what kind of car you have
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  Speaker 3: because you don't know. Okay, you gotta afford Yeah, fine, automobile. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how long. I don't know how long
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna last. I don't know how long the miles are.
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  Speaker 6: At ninety two thousand miles, it's getting up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever had a BMW.
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  Speaker 6: No desire?
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something about a BMW when it
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  Speaker 3: gets to seventy five thousand miles. This is my experience.
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  Speaker 3: You better think about the old trade in or something,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because it's just you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's engineered over engineering.
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  Speaker 2: But still uh.
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  Speaker 3: Now you get a Toyote, which is the cool to
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  Speaker 3: Jokicic to get old Toyota pick up tudor. I think
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  Speaker 3: we'll run for two hundred and ninety three hundred and
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  Speaker 3: eighty thousand miles.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. There's one thing I read this
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  Speaker 6: I don't take just quickly here, Vic, because there's I
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  Speaker 6: knew these were coming into Today's players lack the testicular
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  Speaker 6: fortitude to play a full season These days and what
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  Speaker 6: we've been talking about.
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  Speaker 4: I disagree with that, Like, this is not a knock
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  Speaker 4: on today's players that they're soft. Nobody's saying that. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm arguing against
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  Speaker 4: the pace argument. These players are trying to play. They are,
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to play. It's not their fault they're getting
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  Speaker 4: hurt necessarily, but they're coming into this system with they're
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  Speaker 4: more apt to get hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Why I just gave you my theory as to why
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  Speaker 2: the miles are already there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's like there's no breaks and then here's the
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  Speaker 6: balance though, if you aren't doing that from a younger age,
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  Speaker 6: then it feels like you're missing out on a whole
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  Speaker 6: bunch of stuff that the other kids are doing, and
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  Speaker 6: then you're put behind the eight ball if you don't do.
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  Speaker 4: It a hundred percent. But man, when I was growing up,
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  Speaker 4: there there was no like club sports like there is today.
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  Speaker 2: That didn't exist.
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  Speaker 4: And there were a couple, Yeah, you go play summer
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  Speaker 4: ball or something, but there wasn't no there's no year
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  Speaker 4: long club sports.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: Clubs courches dominate today's sportsphere. When you're a kid, it's
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  Speaker 4: all about the club.
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  Speaker 2: My nephew.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'm going with my club to Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: I go, what are you talking about? Yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: go play soccer in Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: You're twelve years old.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. If I if I told my old man when
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  Speaker 3: I was a kid, yeah, we're going to travel to
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  Speaker 3: Vegas to play games, he would have went, all right,
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  Speaker 3: get a hitchhike there. You're gonna stow away in a
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  Speaker 3: in a cattle truck. I mean, what what what do
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  Speaker 3: you what do you mean? You you're going to not
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  Speaker 3: a chance on Earth? Not a chance?
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  Speaker 6: Are guys in in hockey? Do you think that the
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  Speaker 6: injuries are coming at a higher rate than they used to?
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  Speaker 2: But uh, that's a good question. I never heard of
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  Speaker 2: this in hockey terms.
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  Speaker 6: Baseball it happens a lot more basketball, happens a lot
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  Speaker 6: more football. It's happening a lot.
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  Speaker 2: More hockey in football.
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  Speaker 4: Hockey measure to change the rules in football to make
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  Speaker 4: it safer, and yet it's more injury prone than it.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was talking about though, we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: non contact.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Are we not talking about non contact?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: You take a puck off the face. I mean that's
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  Speaker 6: been happening forever, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Or I mean a guy cross checks you into the border,
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  Speaker 3: blows your shoulder up, you know. I mean I mean
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  Speaker 3: Landy goes, you know, sideways into as you know, twenty
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  Speaker 3: five miles per hour. Right, No, I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think So doesn't feel like it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there aren't guys just you know, on a breakaway and
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden they blow their achilles. That that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't happen in the NHL. In the NBA, you'll see
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  Speaker 3: guys running the floor and all of a sudden their
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  Speaker 3: leg blows up. I'm watching Tim Patrick on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: I was there that day, the day he not the
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  Speaker 3: day well, I was there the day he hurt his knee.
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  Speaker 3: But that was an awkward catch and coming back down
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  Speaker 3: to the field, I watched him take off from the
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and his achilles went boom, just exploded.
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  Speaker 3: He's like down a heap.
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  Speaker 6: George Kittle's been hurt all year of soft tissue stuff
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  Speaker 6: and then his achilles just shotgun blasts in the middle
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  Speaker 6: of that game.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So writes this, and I'm gonna lean on you,
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  Speaker 4: Moser to help me argue this point because I can't
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  Speaker 4: stand this point.
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  Speaker 2: It just drives me crazy.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know, Like I said, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how old you are, nine to one, five five, I
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  Speaker 4: have no idea h this person right in today, they're
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  Speaker 4: not as fast, agile, quick.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the things that put stress on ligaments, not weightlifting. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: vi G. It's approved in theory.
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  Speaker 4: Most do you remember the eighties, I mean it was
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  Speaker 4: it was Claude Drexler. Fast, agile and quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he was. Yeah, I'm trying to Michael Jordan. Fast,
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  Speaker 2: agile and quick, yeah he was.
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  Speaker 3: And once you're gonna do once you get into your
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  Speaker 3: half court set, like the NHL today is faster than
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  Speaker 3: it ever has been. But once you get into a
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  Speaker 3: half court set and you're just running plays, it's no
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  Speaker 3: different than it was. It really is no different than
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  Speaker 3: it was. I mean, the guys may be more athletic
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  Speaker 3: and maybe a bit quicker, but I mean it's the
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  Speaker 3: pace is pretty much the same. What you don't see
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  Speaker 3: in hockey. You don't see a guy jam into the
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  Speaker 3: zone and then you know, put the brakes on and
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  Speaker 3: then peel around, look for a trailer on the play,
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  Speaker 3: But you know, he peels at the top of the
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  Speaker 3: circle and all of a sudden he goes down and
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  Speaker 3: goes ah, oh my knee.
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  Speaker 2: Ah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that that kind of thing just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Hockey injuries are are contact injuries now. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: because today's players are bigger and faster and stronger, the
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  Speaker 3: contact is more g force and and you know, players
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  Speaker 3: get blown up that way more than they did back
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  Speaker 3: in the day. But but there you don't really see
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  Speaker 3: any non contact injuries at all in hockey. Maybe for
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  Speaker 3: the goalies. You do a little bit. Maybe for goal
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  Speaker 3: I mean for goalies perhaps, but not for skaters.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't like this impression that, you know, thirty
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: years ago, they just weren't trying as hard, or pushing
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: off as hard, or jumping as much, or or pivoting
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: as much.
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  Speaker 3: I know, they were just what you watch. You you
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: watch Eric Dickerson take a hand off. Watching Eric Dickerson
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: take a hand off and bust through a line, Dude,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about exlosion. I mean, you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Vic, some people just aren't gonna be convinced.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if it's that if they're making
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: the argument. Look, I think this is true now. Whether
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: this has to do with the discussion or not, it's
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: completely different. Athletes are bigger and stronger and faster than
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: they were twenty years ago, because twenty years from now
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: they'll be bigger and stronger and faster than they are now.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: It's exactly right.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: But they're bigger, stronger, and faster because they're getting specialized
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: training in all of those things that genetics is changing ridiculously.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: But they're bigger, stronger, and faster because they're being taught
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: how to be bigger, stronger, and faster.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And to the Texters point, muscles can get bigger. They can,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: But those connective tissues are they don't. That's not how
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: they behave connective tissues do what they've done since you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the humans became into existence. Connect they connect, They don't.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: They don't throw to get bigger. Well, he's he's breaking
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: down all the time anyway, himself is rubber bands.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Know that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: The drastic example is the guy that's gonna you're gonna
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: see tonight, Zion. His body isn't meant to do this, Yeah, no,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: his body is not meant to live above the rim
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: like some of.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Us when he when he when he when he dented
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: a floor in college and his shoe blew up.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: That's amazing Like.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: That the amount of force that he puts on his
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: body is remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: Victor, excuse me, Vic, real quick, Nelly, are you going
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  Speaker 3: to explain to me that you had nothing to do
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  Speaker 3: with these words today, that this is all Kevin?
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  Speaker 2: That would be correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, okay. I don't know whether to admire Kevin for
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  Speaker 3: you could have chosen a lot other predators, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm on the fenceive bout.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I just watched I just watched The
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  Speaker 6: they're predators.
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  Speaker 3: They're pretty well, no, they don't. They don't mess around.
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  Speaker 3: But you know Polar Bears out there. You know he's
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  Speaker 3: doing his thing, you know what I mean, He's he's
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, He's like full on seals and
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• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, do you guys think that Tomlin coaches his last
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: game in Pittsburgh?
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  Speaker 3: Probably? Probably, I hope not. You know what, you know what, Man,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: if I'm Mike Tomlin, I just love the guy. I'm biased, Okay,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I love Mike Tomlin. So I'm going to say if
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I was Mike Tomlin, I could have another job someplace
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: else like that. But I'll credit the I'll credit the
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers of the Rooney family. They've been incredibly loyal
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: for sixty years, you know, I mean Chuck Nole, Bill
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Kauer and Mike Tomlin.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: There has to be a limit. Though he's lost seven
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: straight playoff games, his last five, he's lost by double digits, like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: not been close to winning. And I'm like, I know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: he's got overall success and he's never had a losing season.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: What do I do with that information? Never had a
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: losing season since two thousand and seven, but has not
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: won a playoff game since January of twenty seventeen.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It means it's time, that's all. It just means it's time.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, everybody gets to that that window where okay,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: the message is getting stale. Whatever, it's time, if a
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: big deal.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: If both both of these guys are on the block,
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: you're looking for a head coach, would you rather have
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Lafleur or Tomlin Tomlin?
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Depends on your franchise, depends on your building blocks. Like
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: every the Broncos, they needed Sean Payton, they needed a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: proven commodity. They needed someone who's won it, who's been there.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: So what the franchise needs will determine the outcome of
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: which coach I want.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, why don't you go through the open jobs
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: and let's go that way? I would think the I
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: just think Mike Tomlin's a really good coach, really good.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: He won't go to Cleveland. And I don't blame him
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: if I mean, listen to me, he's not even gone yet.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: But if he's gone, he won't go to Cleveland.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: The interesting one to me is people seem to be
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: still infatuated with Kevin Stefanski. I don't get that one.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand that either, almost like he was
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: missing he stood in Cleveland, yeah, or maybe he did.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He did win by other people that he didn't.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: I And kind of he won a couple of times,
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: but it was mixed in with a whole bunch of
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: bad kind of in between that. But yeah, those openings
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: are odd. I will say this that I think the
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Tomlin dilemma is an interesting one that could get really
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: interesting if that were to happen. Here again, there is
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: a a very real world that exists that the Broncos
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: lose this Sunday and that's two straight playoff appearances, no wins.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: And if that continues to happen, what do you do?
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: How do you evaluate it? And to me, it's like
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: getting yourself into the dance and giving yourself an opportunity.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Is we just watched a long stretch of guys who
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: could not do that, couldn't get you in. I always
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: say this, it's a lot easier when you're good to
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: get worse than it is to get better. But the
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: tom one I think is strange because he's he's a
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: very successful coach that I think will be picked up
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: in a heartbeat and maybe it's just it's time for
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: where he's at now.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Hey, can I tell you?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if I could change topics on Tomlin and go
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to the Broncos and Bills this weekend. Can I tell
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: you when I'll know how the Broncos will perform in
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: this game? Sure, I will know after the first I'll
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: call it three run attempts rushing attempts by Buffalo.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I will know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: What is out there, what is available? Are they getting
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: met at the line of scrimmage? Are the Broncos trenchmen
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: winning the ward at the line of scrimmage? Are letting
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: them get outside? Are they setting the edge? Are they
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: doing everything they.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Need to do?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: If if there's early exposure to the Bills run game,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: uh oh, that's how I'll feel.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: It's weird how you could get that sense watching a
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: game early, Like watching the Steelers last night in the
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: in the Texans and the Steeves trying to run, You're.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Like, jeez, this is stupid. They can't even get a foot,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: let alone a yard. You knew it was done. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: just you just knew it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get that early sense on Saturday what this
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: game is going to look like based on how Buffalo
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: runs the ball.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm with Vic. I think after the first
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: probably three quarters, I'm gonna have a pretty good feel
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: on how the game is going.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I set three plays, you set three quarters?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, first three quarters, Brett. I think they'll probably go
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: to the pretty good idea, how I feel take whether
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: or not Josh Allen looks as healthy as as we
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: think he's not.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You know that kind of.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Pretty good feel by then?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Is that supposed to be funny?
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Kind of well, I'll give you an example.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: This is an area that I don't think the Broncos
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: de has been tested in too much. They have a
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: good running defense, but the elite caliber sort of running
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: backs in the league, the really, really good ones, they
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: haven't faced too many of them this year. And here's
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: the few that I found just quickly scanning through that
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I would say, apply.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Let me look, then, let me explain what happened in
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: each of those games.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: They played the Colts and Jonathan Taylor had one hundred
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: and sixty five yards in the ground.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: He tore them up, he did.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: They played the Eagles and Saquon had thirty yards on
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: six carries, and we on.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: That Monday we said to ourselves, what is Sirianni's malfunction?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Did we not?
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: It was the weirdest game I've ever seen.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: We need to realize that an incredibly talented Eagles team
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: had a lot of malfunction going on inside that room.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: But Saquon did he even carry the ball in the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: second half. They absolutely stopped running the football in a
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: tight game. It was in go on we on that
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Monday morning. It was inexplicable.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Would you consider Javonte an upper tier running back? It
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: was like top five and rushing yards in the league this.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Year maybe this year, but going into that game, whatever.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: He's thirteen for forty one. Josh Jacobs good running back.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: He ran for seventy three yards on twelve carries, so
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: we had success on limited opportunities he had in that
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Green Bay game. And then I would put ETN in
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: that conversation. ETN had sixteen carries for fifty yards when
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: they played the Jags.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was a Trevor Lawrence show.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: So they've been okay. But I feel like if a
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: team wants to really prove they can run the football
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: with a good back like James Cook, I don't know
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: if we've quite seen that yet. The one example I
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: could point to is Jonathan Taylor, who had a lot
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: of success against the Broncos defense, and I think you're right, Vic.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: If they shut down the running game, then you can
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: sort of pin your ears back and get after Josh
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Allen the way that you want to make him uncomfortable,
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: and then things can go well. But if James Cook
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: has a good day, it could be tough. Now if
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: I remember, right, did the Broncos play Was it two
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: years ago that they played Buffalo? Or is that Russell
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: Wilson's last year where James Cook had like three fumbles
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: in that game?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: You guys remember that that was a couple of years ago.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: That was that was? Was that the game where Courtland
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Sudden had that great catch in the end zone?
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: I think so because they beat Buffalo? Yeah that was
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: that was Russell Wilson's last but he just heat couldn't
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: hang on to the ball. That was the last time
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: that they they well faced him in the regular season
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: at least. I wonder what they did last year. It's
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: funny last year's playoff game is such a blur just
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: because it was like, well it was a blowout.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, well it started off started.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, James Cook ran for a buck twenty last year
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: in that playoff game.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys, vic, as we get more into this week.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: We're gonna break down, I'm sure more. Do you know
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: anybody in Buffalo? By the way, Vic, do you know
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: any humans in Buffalo?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: No, I have friends.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I only know hockey humans. Yeah, that's really helpful. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Lombardi from Toronto's gonna talk Bill's football. That's great.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: It's close.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got this. I got a cousin in Niagara Falls.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I got to pick the gelato cart exactly.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Thanks Mike.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Did you know that Broncos led after the first quarter
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: last year in Buffalo seven to three?
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll aware them.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the score at halftime?
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: It was close?
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: It was ten to seven Buffalo. That's a halftime score.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Everything was fine, everybody was fine.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We kind of but he was panicking fell It didn't
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: feel like that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know how to explain it, like it didn't
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: feel that way because they weren't picking up first downs
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: and couldn't move the chains.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what here's the difference James Cook in that day.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: On that day, James Cook ran twenty three times for
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty yards. He averaged five point two
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: per carry. You stop, James Cook, you give yourself a chance.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: That's why the first three carries of this game on
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Saturday will tell me if the Broncos are ready.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: They can't let that guy run wild. They can't.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: They can't because Josh Allen is already the threat we
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: know he is. You gotta cut off one of their arms.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even a bit banged up. Josh Allen is really good.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And I think about this, I'm trying to think of
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: what he doesn't do well. Now, he will throw picks.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I mean he'll do that, you know, because he's confident
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: in his own abilities. He tries things and so on. Okay, fine,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: but he's really good at hitting receivers downfield?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Is he not in stride?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Is he really good at that?
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: He's a good quarterback? Yeah?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Is he is? He is? He a terrific scrambler out
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: of the pocket, feeling the pressure and running to the right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: So good, everything up you yards with us? Yeah, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: this is this is a fear of VIC and I
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: comp letely agreed with you. You got to cut off
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: one of the arms if you bring the pressure. You know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: he also is really good when needed at employing the
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: screen game and the dump off game. So if you're
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: bringing pressure and he's got quick recognition, of it, dude,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: and he dumps it off. Man, you could expose yourself
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to a cook running wild through the secondary. I just
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the guy makes me nervous. That's all because I don't
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: know that he really has any sort of flaws that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: you can exploit. You can try to take away one
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: total aspect of the game, and because you're so damn
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: good defensively, you can probably do that. But my point
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: is how much can he exploit the other two thirds
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: of it to hurt you? That's terrifying.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: When Josh Allen has sacked at least four times this year,
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: he's zering three.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: The other thing, too, is if you get yourself a
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: lead and they gotta lead in Buffalo last year, that
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: sound's crazy. They got a lead, But get yourself enough
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: of a lead where you can use that pass rush
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: to beat that dude up.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just hit him, beat them up. Get the ball again,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Get the ball.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I'll go out on a limb and say this, If
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos defense does not produce a turnover, they
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: will not win this game. The game hinges on that
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I need a turnover. I gotta have the ball. Give
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: me the ball, Give me the ball.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Gotta have it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Would be my my war cry this this week. If
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I'm vance Joseph, I'm chumping.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I need the ball.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: You want to win, Give me the ball one give me.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Give me, give me to Mitchie Trubisky and you win
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the game. Give me to Michie.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not taking. I'm not a saying take
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen. I don't say get the ball one last round.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: It something you haven't been very good at all season.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Get the ball one last reminder. Your keywind for this
• 31:41
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  Speaker 4: last name in three oh three five O four oh
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• 31:45
  Speaker 6: It's an AVS ticket Tuesday. It's a chance to win
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  Speaker 6: tickets to the Avs and Predators on Friday. Well, now
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• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's hyena. It's not honey, it's not hana, it's
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: not jinja, it's mean, it's none of the its, it's
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  Speaker 3: none of these words.
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  Speaker 6: That did somebody just type in strahena.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody typed in higina.
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  Speaker 6: Oh it's hyena. Three three five four h nine to
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• 32:21
  Speaker 6: walking through here. I should have got him to do
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: another spins call for Marty Natchius last night.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: A couple factoids here. This one's crazy. So Sean McVay
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: has been coaching the Rams for a long time. He's
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  Speaker 6: had a lot of success with LA. This is the
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  Speaker 6: fifteenth postseason game he will be coaching in.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Coaching fifteen postseason games is crazy enough on its own.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 6: You know what else is crazy, vic He has never
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: played the same team twice in the postseason. Fifteen different
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: opponents in fifteen different playoff games.
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  Speaker 4: That is as crazy as the stat I saw about
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the Steelers last night losing a Monday night football game
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  Speaker 4: for the first time since the eighties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Here's his opponents that he's played dating back to twenty seventeen. Falcons, Patriots, Saints, Cowboys, Packers, Seahawks, Bengals, Niners, Bucks, Cardinals, Lions, Eagles, Vikings, Panthers,
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  Speaker 6: and now the Bears this weekend. Fifteen different teams in
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  Speaker 6: fifteen different games.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty Craig Cray, I even know that's possible.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Here's another one. This is also crazy. So whenever you
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: sign a GM or a head coach, they do these
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: long contracts, right, A lot of these guys get five, six,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: seven year deals, right. You almost never see any of
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: these guys make it to that final deal. So this
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: is from Jeremy Foller of ESPN. An extension for GM.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: George Payton is likely on the Broncos radar. He is
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: entering the final year of his six year deal signed
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one next season. How many GMS do
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: you know that make it to year six of a
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: six year deal. It's not very often, but I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I think we've given him a fusive enough praise on
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: this show. I would put George Bayten up against almost
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: anybody in the league as far as running a team,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: knowing how to build a team, build a roster, scout talent.
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  Speaker 6: He is as good as anybody in the NFL.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: And I mean that the combination of George and Sean,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: the Peytons together have they have been wonderful. I thought
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: the worst when Sean Payton came into power. I thought
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't be just a matter of time before George
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Peyton is out. But instead he embraced him, He used
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: him for his strengths. They work up each other pretty well.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: He really focuses on the draft George does, and it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: done wonders for him.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And I'll love it. I think they have a great relationship.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: And credit to Sean Payton too for making it work.
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  Speaker 4: It takes two for that to work, and it's worked
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  Speaker 4: wonderfully for the last few years.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: I thought this same thing as you, Vick. I thought
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: Sean was gonna come in here, and he was. You know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: he was given the keys to the entire organization. He
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: was gonna run things. So anybody's here, get out and
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna start anew But he was smart enough, Like
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's that hard to do a few
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: minutes of research in realize George Payton's hit rate on
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: both free agents and draft picks is way higher than
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: his mis rate. You can name the misses, you know.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: You can name a few draft picks that haven't worked.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: You can go to the Randy Gregory signing, you can
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: do the Russell Wilson trade. You can do that stuff,
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: But look at everything else. Zach Allen Whufonga, Nick Benito
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: draft pick, Quinn Miners draft pick. You go down the
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: board and it's like his hit rate is as high
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: as anybody in the league. So if he gets this extension,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: which he should and I hope they do it soon,
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: it will be well deserved again.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And it's a hitting on guys, hitting on guys who
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: don't seem to be automatic. It's okay the later rounds.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: You hit on guys that can really help your football team.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: It's pretty awesome. If you do that as a GM,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: you're building, you're building a team, and you're building depth.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And he's done a good job.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: O mos I mean this sincerely. Think about the missing
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: first and second round draft picks he's had in the
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: five years he's been here so far because of the
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: Russell Wilson trade and getting Sean Payton top end draft
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: picks where your hit rate is way higher than later
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: and look at all of the foundational pieces that he
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: has drafted on this team that's gotten long term extensions.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know how many gams could have done that
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: without the top end picks that he was missing for
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: the bulk of his time here. And now the good
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: news is, for the first time and really his entire tenure,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: he's going to have a full stock of draft picks
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: and a full salary cap to work with next year
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: when the Russell Wilson's money. Russell Wilson money is gone.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: But we talked about it again that bo Nix is
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the lowest paid quarterback left in the playoffs. And this
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: is why you've got to make hay now man because
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: if he continues to play well, and I hope that
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: he does, and I think that he will, then you're
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: gonna have to pay that guy and four point five
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: million to fifty million dollars or whatever he's going to get.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I mean it's the lower end. Is it thirty two,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: is it fifty one? I mean, he's not getting Josh
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Allen money, right, but he's gonna get a lot of money.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: But he's gonna eat up some stuff, of course he is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: You think he's gonna make more than the reigning MVP.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Homeboy brock Party makes fifty three. It don't matter if
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: you're better than Josh Allen or not. Yeah, it matters
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: when your time's up.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: That was the Kirk Cousins. Now, that's when Kirk Cousins
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: signed that three year deal with Minnesota for thirty per man.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Everything just got crazy from that point on. Then you
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: had to pay my homes forty per or whatever. It
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: is the four hundred million dollars. It's just things got wacky.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: It's just the going rate for a quarterback, a starting
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: quarterback in the National Football League that would be desirable
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to at least one other team is going to get
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: forty to fifty.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: I want to replay something real quick from earlier in
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: the show. Uh sorry, because Vicky brought this audio to
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: our attention. I just want to hear the voice again
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: of Dan Assel hang on.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Of what coach in the history of NBA had the
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: most pace in a basketball Doug Doug Mo.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Doug Mo.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I when I heard that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Can I ask you as a question, I just does
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: that have a little bit of Jesse the Body Ventura
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: vibes to it?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: It does? Yeah, it does.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Nelly, can you find me at the same part of
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: the country.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Do me one better?
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Nelly find me Will Sasso doing Jesse the Body Ventura.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Our boy Will Sasso, who does the Uh remember when
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: he did the Arnold Schwarzenegger thing with the donkey by
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: the pool, That was Will Sassol. Will Sasso is hilarious.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that was.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: He feels so damn funny. I want you to find
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: Will Sasso doing Jesse Ventura, and I want to put
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: these side by side because they're very, very similar.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Well, Jesse's from the Upper Midwest and Dan is from Batavia, Illinois, Minnesota.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're from the same region.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: But I live in the Baja. Now it's such an
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: insane voice.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: That's what.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Look you'll hear Will Sasso. I guarantee he says that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: That's what Jesse Ventura says. Now, I lived in Minnesota,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: but now I'm down in the Baja.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Who's that.
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: I don't know who that is.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: You'll have to educate me on.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Wait, that's Sasso, right.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: That's how good it is because that sounds like this
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: sura player.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: I want more Will Sassel, please, I.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Don't know who that is. You'll have to educate me
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: on who that is.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Now, Dan, what coach in the history ahead? Doug? Yeah,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So I when I heard that, that is just like Jesse.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: That is just like it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I could hear Sasso do Ventura for
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: the next eight outs and I would be entertained the
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: entire time.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: So Sasso is the same one who did the Donkey
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: by the Pool. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's okay. I'm I'm
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: not really with it today. I apologize, but that's incredible listening.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: To the body Ventura impression and just laughing his ass.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: Of course, Hey Rick, you look dumb. What are you
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: doing over there?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: He's dude, He's just sitting here staring at them. He's
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: watching the show. I don't know what he's I don't
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: know what he's doing. He's he's looking. He's looking at Vic,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I think is what he's doing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: There was h Vic the Pelicans game tonight. Give us
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: one last one of creview on what to look for tonight.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I'm obviously the game is going to hinge a lot
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: on of Jamal Murray plays or not. I'm not sure
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: his availability. He did make the trip, but he's been
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: under the weather. He's been ill.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe not as ill as Moser looks right now, but
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see if he goes.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: You know, it's getting to that point now where the
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Nuggets are used to winning with a short handed roster
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: and a skeleton crew, and even against New Orleans. New
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Orleans is only one nine games a bad team, but
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: you get the feeling that no matter who they put
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: on the floor, they should win the game.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Is that the feeling you get that you have so
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: much faith in this team and this culture and this out.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Against this I'm sorry, Vick, against this. I know there's
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a lay. You're in New Orleans,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I'm here this particular team, or.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Or in any game, any game.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the Nuggets right now. They're four
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: and three since the Joker injury. All right, they're four
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: and three. You'll take that all day, baby. But the
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: way they've persevered and come to play no matter who
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: they trod on on the court, it's almost at the
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: point where yeah, okay again, yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: But it's just gonna be one of those games where
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: a guy gets off for them, like a Derrek Queen
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: has a game or something like that. You never know, Hey,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I think City Bay CIDK Bay is injured.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: Correct, Yes, so is Alvarado and so is oh who's
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: the other one, Herb Jones?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: All right, well, I mean it just seems it's one
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: of those games where some guy Derrek.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: Queen and Derek kan put up thirty the last of
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: him played Denver.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I know, That's what I'm saying. You know, the guy
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: averages what what is the average per game vic eleven
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: points per game or something like that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: He's only like the fifth leading scorer. He's not the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: score and so.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Then but I know, but it's it's one of those. Okay, Well,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: this is the Derek Queen Knight.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And he goes off, and we'll see if I gave
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: you one of these two back to back for the
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Nuggets tonight and then Dallas tomorrow night, would you take
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: one of two?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Damn right, you would just get Stay five hundred?
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, stay five hundred Wall good with LA.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Huh So what you I mean?
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Look at the rest of the conference. Look at the
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: conference right now, they're only a game behind San Antonio. Yeah,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: all right, Minnesota's right there. Minnesota sneakily is is moving
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: on up. Lakers lost the Sacramento last night.
• 43:21
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  Speaker 5: You know, every year, I'm always worried, Oh man, are
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  Speaker 5: we really going to have enough content for the moji's?
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  Speaker 5: And after today the answer is yes. So let's just
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: try to parse through. It happened in one single commercial break.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: First of all, this is how we got to break vic.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Is one thousand? Correct? Is he? Yeah?
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Because there's an argument to be made that the opposite
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: should be true, and we'll get to it next.
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  Speaker 3: Oh there's an argument. Okay, yeah, don't miss a minute.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the first part.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Then Brett decided to let the promo play and give
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• 44:25
  Speaker 6: That's will hide Winds dot Com. I just want to
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  Speaker 6: a keyword for this hour and that keyword.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: So we did that all right, Then we went back
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: to our commercial break. Then we had vict to his
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: actual live read. And then at the end of Vick's
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: live read, dam Campbellus Law dot com.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: By the way, the keyword is wolf.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: And then we went back to commercial.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Did you get all that?
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: I want to give the people I wanted to give
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: the people information. Sue me I can find.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Can't interrupt commercial breaks with programming. That's a no no,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you just can't do it. I'm gonna turn you in.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Put this on my list.
• 45:08
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  Speaker 6: wonderful Tuesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: You see it interrupting commercial breaks.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Because there's an argument to be made that the opposite
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: should be true, and we'll get to it next.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Well, there's an argument, Oh yeah, don't