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HOT DAMN. HOT D. IS DONE - House of The Dragon Season 2 Review · May The Review Be With You

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  Speaker 1: Kristen Cole is the embodiment of simple Plan, that is
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  Speaker 1: who he is.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to My life, man, Hello, and welcome to May
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  Speaker 2: the review be with you With Nick and Joe. I'm Joe,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nick, and today we are reviewing season two of
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  Speaker 2: House of the Dragon, the Queen that Ever was. We're
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  Speaker 2: at the finale once again, Nick, We're at the finale
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  Speaker 2: of a Song of Ice and Fire story. It's always
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  Speaker 2: kind of a bittersweet moment. I mean, the finale is
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  Speaker 2: always like a supercharged part of the story, right with
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  Speaker 2: like intense things happening, both politics and magic, and then
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  Speaker 2: it ends, and then we just don't have it for
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  Speaker 2: like a year or two, and I hate it. Life
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  Speaker 2: gets a little more bitter and it's the worst.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna not be out until like twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, because I think they start filming in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. So oh that hurts two years until season
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  Speaker 1: three of House of the Dragon. Uh, it's a little tough. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: this last episode, you know, the Song of Ice and
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  Speaker 1: Fire stories do a very good job of setting up
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  Speaker 1: the next season in these in these finales, and typically
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  Speaker 1: there are some really cool moments but everyone knows that
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  Speaker 1: the Song of Ice and Fire insane episodes are typically
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  Speaker 1: the one before last, which I think that stands true here.
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  Speaker 1: But there was some really awesome, awesome things that happen
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  Speaker 1: in this finale that we can unpack here and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll do an overall and overall for sure chat. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what what do you what are your initial thoughts? It's
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  Speaker 1: overall I want to start.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna do just a bra odd sweep
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  Speaker 2: here of season two. I'm just gonna say, I think
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  Speaker 2: I think in most cases, this was a better season
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  Speaker 2: than the one that we got before. I think personally
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it more. I think I would have to
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  Speaker 2: watch both again to like actually break down which season
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  Speaker 2: like narratively like works better. But in season one there's
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  Speaker 2: a ton of like time shifting and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: jumping around, and like a lot of like hyper storytelling,
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  Speaker 2: like just like really fast storytelling, and like I think
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  Speaker 2: most of the time it's pretty effective in the first season,
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  Speaker 2: whereas this season, in season two, we had kind of
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  Speaker 2: the opposite.
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  Speaker 4: It was like slow down storytelling.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there were some moments.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some moments.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we pick up where we left off with
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  Speaker 2: Jase being killed right in the aftermath, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much time actually goes by between episode one
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  Speaker 2: and the finale, like a month.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's it's not that much time.
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  Speaker 1: No of season two. Yeah, No, I want to say
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  Speaker 1: it's more. And the only reason that I'm thinking that
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  Speaker 1: is and this is a great point you're making about
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  Speaker 1: what is the timeline of season two? Like how long
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  Speaker 1: is this season in real time? A month? Two months,
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  Speaker 1: six months? The reason I think it's longer than a
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  Speaker 1: month is solely because of Eggon's healing after being burned
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  Speaker 1: alive basically falling off of his dragon, Like he has
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  Speaker 1: made a lot of progress and those kind of injuries
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  Speaker 1: in this kind of a you know, medieval time, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's months most likely. Granted it's TV show
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  Speaker 1: and the showrunners are telling a story in their own
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  Speaker 1: time and so there's no real way to tell. But
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  Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I would say definitely longer
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  Speaker 1: than a month span.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right, and something that I hadn't considered,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's one other so most of the time, when
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  Speaker 2: like people are traveling, yeah, they just skip the time,
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  Speaker 2: and like they just teleport, and they're just like unless
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a dragon writer, like the dragon writers, I kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of give them a pass. It's like, well, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how fast a dragon.
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  Speaker 2: Is in this world, right, But other characters like they
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  Speaker 2: just teleport and they just wherever the plot requires them
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  Speaker 2: to be, right, except for Thailand maybe right, like he
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  Speaker 2: ends up in Esos and like, yeah, I really don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much time like transpired between I guess when
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  Speaker 2: he was dismissed and told to like go do that,
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  Speaker 2: go talk to the pirates the triarchy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and also being there and the other
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  Speaker 1: character too, now that I'm thinking about it, you mentioned Thailand,
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  Speaker 1: I forget his name, but the one of the right
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  Speaker 1: hand men of Raniera who she sends to Heron Hall
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  Speaker 1: to scoop up Damon, I forget his name, but you
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  Speaker 1: know she sent him there like two or three episodes ago,
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  Speaker 1: and finally in the finale he arrives at Haron Hall. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know how much time it takes to get
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  Speaker 1: from from Dragonstone, right, that's where they're hauled up from
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  Speaker 1: Dragonstone to Haron Hall.
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  Speaker 4: But think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's probably two or three days because like
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  Speaker 2: by Dragon Back, they get there like.
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  Speaker 4: Quick two hours. Yeah, yeah, like it's vast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I imagine like yeah, two two or three days,
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  Speaker 2: sounds like that's reasonable by horse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is always a big problem in Song of
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  Speaker 1: Ice and Fire TV shows, is the traveling in the
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  Speaker 1: amount of time. And it's only a problem because some
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  Speaker 1: people online like really decide to decide to like decide
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  Speaker 1: to be loud and think about it too much because
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like it's a TV show,
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  Speaker 1: they're telling a story. We can't pick it too much.
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  Speaker 4: Like, hell, we can't, but we're trying. I'll listen.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're you're absolutely right. I think it's probably
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  Speaker 2: more than a month. It's still leaps in bounds slower
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  Speaker 2: than the first season, And yeah, that I appreciate that,
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  Speaker 2: or simply like just getting to know these characters better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a great point. I was That's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I was thinking when you mentioned the story how
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  Speaker 1: much we time skip and that first season by like
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  Speaker 1: you know, just all these different we meet different actors
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  Speaker 1: who are playing these characters as they're older, and this
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  Speaker 1: season we get to actually like settle into the actors
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  Speaker 1: who are playing these characters and really get to like
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  Speaker 1: appreciate what they're doing, which was awesome, especially with Amen
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  Speaker 1: and Egon. I was I'm still a little sad that
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  Speaker 1: Aggon like basically became crippled so quickly, because I love
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  Speaker 1: his characters so much, and and I wish we got
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  Speaker 1: like another episode or two of him being himself before
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  Speaker 1: he got just absolutely destroyed by his brother. But maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll get some more at some point because he's not
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  Speaker 1: dead somehow, so and now you know he's on the
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  Speaker 1: way to SS I think right is where he's going.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, YO, keep keeping things. Unless Nick, was there
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  Speaker 2: was there anything regarding just overall for the season that
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to mention before we talk about the Queen
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  Speaker 2: that ever?
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  Speaker 1: Was? Yeah, So I know we talked about kind of
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  Speaker 1: this the pacing, and it was a little slower than
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  Speaker 1: season one, and and for the most part, I don't
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  Speaker 1: mind that. I like being able to get to know
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  Speaker 1: the characters and the intricacies about them. It gives the
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  Speaker 1: actors more like space to develop the character, which is
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  Speaker 1: really cool. And so for the most part, I was
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  Speaker 1: okay with it, and I really did enjoy it. Were
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  Speaker 1: and I've been really loud about this on threads about
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  Speaker 1: Damon being at hair in Hall for five episodes and
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  Speaker 1: basically just being haunted for five episodes because.
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  Speaker 4: You made your complaints and voice very well heard on
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  Speaker 4: the thread of the.
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  Speaker 1: Story just did not progress for five episodes. And and
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the what was its episode seven, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing with Oscar Tully and him that was
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  Speaker 1: really fun and really cool and really badass, and then
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  Speaker 1: finally in episode eight, we got this really awesome moment,
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  Speaker 1: and so it kind of made it all worth it.
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  Speaker 1: But it was that was the only part of the
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  Speaker 1: whole season that was just felt a little bit too
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  Speaker 1: dragged on for me, like they just kind of like
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  Speaker 1: they shoved him at they shoved him to hair and
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  Speaker 1: Hall so they could deal with the other parts of
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  Speaker 1: the story, And yeah, I don't him just being haunted
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  Speaker 1: for that long. It just felt a little bit drawn
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  Speaker 1: out to me. I think I could have done like
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  Speaker 1: maybe one or two episodes less of that. But it
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  Speaker 1: all makes sense, especially with the finale, which was really
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  Speaker 1: cool to reveal and and way to kind of complete
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  Speaker 1: that storyline. But that's the only thing, but the pacing, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it. So for the most part here in season.
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  Speaker 2: Two, same I agree, Like there were times where I
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  Speaker 2: was like, come on, get on with it, like what
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  Speaker 2: you said about Damon, It's like I can.
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  Speaker 4: Only watch this man be crazy for so long.
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  Speaker 2: It ultimately felt like all the visions were kind of
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  Speaker 2: saying the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you're not the main character, right, like.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, like three episodes of that, maybe you know,
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  Speaker 2: not not five, but man, does it lead to a
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  Speaker 2: great spot? Two great spots really, so let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: The Queen that ever was.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoyed this episode. It's not what I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was going to be.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we were going to see a lot more
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  Speaker 2: action and violence in this episode.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think probably most people thought that, right.
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  Speaker 1: Which we should know better that the finale of a
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  Speaker 1: Song of Ice and Fire TV shows is not is
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  Speaker 1: not chaotic.
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  Speaker 4: It's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the time, it's like a it's a reaction
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  Speaker 2: right to something violent that's already happened, right. I think,
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  Speaker 2: with very few exceptions, is that true. The only one
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  Speaker 2: in actual like Game of Thrones like proper that I
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  Speaker 2: can think of that ended with like something violent was
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  Speaker 2: the finale of season six when SIRC blows.
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  Speaker 4: Up the sept.
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  Speaker 1: That was the finale.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the finale of six.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: It's legendary. God.
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  Speaker 2: I just make the argument that eight ends with a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of violence too, with the death and generous
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  Speaker 2: spoilers for anyone who somehow is listening to this and
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  Speaker 2: hasn't watched that yet.
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  Speaker 1: There's no passing there there. We don't have to call
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  Speaker 1: it spoilers for that. That's their fault.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed, But yeah, this was this was an episode
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  Speaker 2: with political intrigue and emotionally charged moments, and my dude,
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  Speaker 2: I did not really care about Thailand in this show
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  Speaker 2: until this episode.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 2: His minor story became like one of the highlights for
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  Speaker 2: me of the entire season.
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  Speaker 1: Really, that's yea.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely everything.
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  Speaker 2: Like the poor guy, like after he talks to the
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  Speaker 2: triarchy and he and he's like cool, it's been decided. Great,
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, well, actually, we really want you to
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  Speaker 2: talk to our ambassador, like he are not our ambassador
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  Speaker 2: or admiral.
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  Speaker 4: He he really need you need to inspire confidence in
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  Speaker 4: him first. And he's like, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean I was kind of hoping I could drink some
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  Speaker 2: wine and like rest for a minute, and there was
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  Speaker 2: zero rest from that moment.
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  Speaker 4: From that moment, his life is a sitcom and it's
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  Speaker 4: amazing him just getting his ass handed to him in
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  Speaker 4: the Mud by Lohart Mud Show, We're at the freaking Renaissance.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, where are we right now?
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  Speaker 4: Incredible? Loharr is incredible, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Like that just makes me think real quick side side note,
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  Speaker 1: the Renaissance Festival needs to rebrand aze like Game of
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  Speaker 1: Thrones Festival anyway, that's the thought.
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  Speaker 2: I should be definitely some some like they're basically already there, but.
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  Speaker 1: Like they just need to, like, you know, put the
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  Speaker 1: actual name on it and then.
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  Speaker 4: We're make it like Martin Fest. That doesn't sound good.
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  Speaker 4: There you go, Martin, that's creepy. Who show up.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Man?
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  Speaker 4: But uh yeah yeah, the whole heart thing so good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely loved everything about Tayland. What were what were
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  Speaker 2: the standouts for.
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  Speaker 4: You in the in the finale.
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  Speaker 1: The finale for me, standouts Aaron at Haron Hall, which
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  Speaker 1: is Damon at Heron Hall, which is hilarious because I
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  Speaker 1: hated that he was there for five episodes and then
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  Speaker 1: and then it was just so bad ass. He finally,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he he he goes and has the vision
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  Speaker 1: of like the three eyed Raven and his in the
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  Speaker 1: future of his house, in the future of west Rows.
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  Speaker 1: He sees what we assume as Robert Barathian before the
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  Speaker 1: vision even starts, you know, with the antlers, right at
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  Speaker 1: least that's the speculation. And it was just like a
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  Speaker 1: really awesome way to bring home that whole part of
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  Speaker 1: the story and for Damon to finally realize that like,
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  Speaker 1: just like you said, I'm not the main character in
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  Speaker 1: the story, Like this whole war is bigger than me.
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  Speaker 1: The future of my house is bigger than me. Like
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  Speaker 1: I need to get in line, and the only way
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  Speaker 1: to ensure that the human race continues to exist is
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  Speaker 1: for me to bend the knee, you know basically. And
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  Speaker 1: of course, like we get a Winter is Coming line,
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  Speaker 1: which I was not expecting at all, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: it's Damon saying winter is coming up all the people
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  Speaker 1: who are choosing to like look after everyone else other
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  Speaker 1: than themselves and now focus on Winter coming. It's Damon
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  Speaker 1: of all people. It's like, what are we talking about?
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  Speaker 1: So that whole that whole storyline just sticks out. That
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. And then something we probably should talk about
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  Speaker 1: is all the new dragon writers, them being at the
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  Speaker 1: table with Rania sticks out just like you know her,
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  Speaker 1: essentially a day after they all claimed dragons, just like
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  Speaker 1: in three days, you guys are going into the battle.
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  Speaker 1: We have to win. We have to finish this now.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure at least one one of them
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  Speaker 1: is gonna like it's probably old. He's just gonna he's
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  Speaker 1: either gonna chicken shit and go the other way, or
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna flip sides very easily, because he doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like a very loyal I mean, none of them can
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  Speaker 1: be that loyal, but he's the least loyal to them
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  Speaker 1: all in my opinion, So that stood out as well.
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  Speaker 1: And and then of course, Alison, these two are frustrating
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  Speaker 1: as from a best friend perspective. They just keep you know,
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  Speaker 1: traveling in the middle of the night, trying to sneak
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  Speaker 1: into each other's kingdom just to have a conversation. You know, sorry, Besty.
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  Speaker 1: They're just each apologizing left and right, and.
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  Speaker 4: Just for the love you once bore me as a friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Alison, it would be nice.
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  Speaker 2: I want to believe that, Like if you and I
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: were like tearing America apart. Like we could still meet
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  Speaker 2: in like I don't know, like Nevada or like Missouri
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  Speaker 2: or something and be like, hey, like, I know we
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  Speaker 2: hate at each other and we're trying to like rule
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  Speaker 2: the world, but we're st cool, right.
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  Speaker 1: That would never happen. We would never be on we
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  Speaker 1: would never be on opposite size.
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  Speaker 2: I love you, But yeah, I agree that that whole
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  Speaker 2: concept of them. I think that's actually one.
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  Speaker 4: Of the.
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  Speaker 2: Whole concept of them being able to do that, that's
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  Speaker 2: actually one of the lights for me this season.
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  Speaker 4: Conversations are fine. I think they're interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're very well performed.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, the like the idea of them is kind
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  Speaker 4: of stupid, especially Nia somehow getting all the way through
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: King's landing and that close to Alison in the sept
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  Speaker 4: like are you kidding me?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, really was the best we could think of writers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it just it is a because
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't quite do it. It doesn't hit the mark.
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  Speaker 2: It feels a little fan fiction he compared to like
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  Speaker 2: all the other stuff that we're given.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's like, this doesn't this doesn't jell And I love.
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  Speaker 1: That the showrunners too. At the end of the episodes
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  Speaker 1: when they're talking about, you know, after the episode and
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  Speaker 1: all that, they're always talking about how they're such good
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  Speaker 1: friends and their best friend they've been friends since they
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  Speaker 1: were kids. It's like, go back and watch the first season.
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  Speaker 5: The second that Allison chooses to marry the father, like
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  Speaker 5: they what were they like fifteen? Like, yeah, they have
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  Speaker 5: been adults longer than they were best friends when they
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  Speaker 5: were younger. So I don't know if the best friend
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  Speaker 5: thing should really be what they're hanging their hats on
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  Speaker 5: here for why they keep trying to meet each other, because.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure their friendship has been like on the
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  Speaker 1: rocks longer than they were actually best friends from a
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  Speaker 1: timeline perspective at this point. So I don't love that
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  Speaker 1: excuse if you will sometimes but whatever, Telcos it was, let.
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  Speaker 2: Me let me ask you this because I think this
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  Speaker 2: was a quick thing. But he was one of the
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  Speaker 2: more interesting moments that happened in the episode. It was
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  Speaker 2: very quick and it's something we've already spoken a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about. But there's a revelation about where has Auto
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  Speaker 2: High Tower been.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I get a.
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  Speaker 2: Quick shot at the end that Otto is imprisoned, and man,
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  Speaker 2: I did not see that coming.
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  Speaker 4: Well, when he went back on it, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Amon hints at it when he first gets the throne.
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  Speaker 2: Amen hints at it. Then I believe Allison also talks
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  Speaker 2: about how weird it is that he just didn't say
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  Speaker 2: which which thing he was going to go do? Was
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: he going to go talk to the youngest son? Was
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: going to go talk to the Tyrrells? Like? So let
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: me let me ask you this two part question here.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: First part, where do you think he's being in prison?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And two?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Who do you think is imprisoning him?
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Oh? I have zero clue. I have absolute zero clue
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: because the last thing I even remember was Amin saying,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: let's find my grandfather and make sure he doesn't cause
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: trouble or something. So there's a possibility he's just in
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the He's in King's Landing in the prison.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: So I think that would be the most ironic thing ever.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Hamen's just keeping him close, rights, just keeping him close. Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Amen's keeping him close where you can, where you can
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: see him. That would be my guess.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I have two guesses on this.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: My first is that one that's someone has kidnapped him
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: in King's Landing.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Probably uh uh.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Damon no amen, Amen, Amen, amen, Amen. Yeah, I don't
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: know why that sounded weird for me for a second.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and he's still there or he did take off.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: This one's less likely, but I kind of like the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: idea of it. And I don't know how this would
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: work exactly, but I would love the idea of it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the Tyrrells and like this is how the Tyrrells get
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: brought into the third season.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I would say that only.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Because you know, the Tyrrell's obviously a very powerful house
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: in West Roast. They're right there with the high towers,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and it feels like we, I mean, we haven't we
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: haven't really seen the Tyrrells yet in this world. I mean,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I guess there's a couple we haven't seen. We haven't
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: really seen the gray Joys. We've heard the grade Joys,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: we know they're coming. We've had the Tyrell's name dropped
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a few times. I think we're getting both of those
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: houses next season. And I think like the Tyrrell's, like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: making like a huge play like this would be a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: great way to like introduce them into the story. That's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: just my tinfoil theory. I have no good, solid evidence
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: as to how to make that work.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Love it, love it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I do have.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I do have one more thing. I want to like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: nitpick here, Nick, anyone listening. I don't care about Raina Targarian.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't care. And it sucks because, like
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I the story that they're doing. A friend of mine
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: called this that there's there's a character in the book
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that the creator said is not going to be in
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the show, which was a bummer. Her name was Nettles,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: and she was my favorite part of the book. And
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, that sucks, Like that's a that's
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a whole dragon writer that's just not going to be there.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I had a friend speculate, I think they're going to
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: combine Raina's story with Nettle's story, like that's why Nettles
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: isn't in the show. Turns out that friend was completely right,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: completely right.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: But like I don't.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I don't care about Raina, and I don't think that
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that's my fault because I don't think the show at
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: this point really cares about Raina all that much.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: They don't either, They don't.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: How much screen time do you think she collectively got
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: in the finale twenty seconds. Honestly, I'd be surprised if
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: it's that much.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Like I think it was less than a minute.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was. She had more screen time
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in the in the the previous like episode recap before
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this episode, just to remind us of where she was
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and what she was doing. Honestly, Also, like, not.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Only does the show not seem to care about Raina,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: apparently no one that Reina was with cares about Raina
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: because like she stuock off super easily, and apparently no
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: one went looking for her. Like yeah, you think they
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: care about the missing princess, but like nope, we're not
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: gonna spend any time talking about that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yep, no one cares. But you know what that that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: probably means that she's gonna play some kind of an
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: important role and maybe save the day one of these
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: episodes next season, and then it'll be even more infuriating
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: because it's really not possible.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So the same friend who called this, they also described
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: what they think is going to happen with Reina and
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: like how they're gonna fold this character into the Nettles character.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And I hated her because of like how good it sounded,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and how much like I just want to be a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: purist and like just have like the book be the book, right,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: but like what they described in like trying to like it. Basically,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: what she suggested is everything that we knew about Nettles
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: from the book actually was Raina. But since the book
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: is a history book and is it doesn't have personal accounts,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it was never no one was ever able to confirm
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: or clarify that this wild girl on this dragon that
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: no one was able to tame, was actually a princess targarian,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know, which that's actually if she's right, that's actually
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: really cool.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I love that. Actually, that's fantastic.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I do too.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So I'm either I'm either going to continue to hate
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: this because it's not what I want it to be,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: or this is going to redeem itself and I'm gonna
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: be like, this was the coolest story.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. The last thing I wanted to mention about
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: this finale is a conversation between two characters that we
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: saw for very very briefly, Kristin Cole and Brother High Tower.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Chris.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Kristin Cole, perhaps all men are corrupt. Well, that's a line,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and then also, to die now would be a kind
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of relief. I'm pretty sure Kristin Cole is the most
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: depressed man in all of west Rows.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I love what a teenager Kristin Cole is.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: God, such a moody teenage fifty year old. You know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he's so dramatic.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: He he is the embodiment of simple plan, Like like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: welcome to my life.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: That is who he is. Welcome to my life. Man
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: to I would be so we're done. That was that's just.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Hang up the hang up the stream. That was great,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that's funny. Kristen Cole is the embodiment of simple plan.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: That's that's perfect. Yeah. I love how Allison's brother was
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: like trying to confront him about having sex with his
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: sister and Kristin Coles ends up being so depressed that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the guy was just like, you know what, never mind,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you're more miserable than if I killed you. It'd be
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: worth Keeping you alive is better than you be dead.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: He's so charged for that conversation, and by the end
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: of it he just looks so bummed out.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just sits down next to him like damn.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: He's right, damn, dude, you want me to do now
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: What a great way to diffuse murderous intent.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Something weird? Yeah, God, so funny.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: So funny, Dick.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like there is so much more, like in
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: general about House of the Dragon we could talk about
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: and like maybe one of these days, like we could
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: do like just an episode about you know, different different
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: theories that we have or different like different highlights. But
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it sounds like, you know, we're both pretty positive on
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: where we are here with the show. Just some quick
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: highlights that I'm not going to get into, but just
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: like things that like stuck out to me.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I love that Adam Hole is just.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Like already like on board with being a Dragon writer
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: for Nira. I love that Aaron Hole is like.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Screw you, Dad, I'm going home after this war.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I love Sad Corliss. I love everything that's going on
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: with Corlis and.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: The Valerians Mira, even though some.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Questionable moves with or not questionable moves, but just some
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: weird scenes between her and Allison. I love the scene
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like you said with Damon. Yeah, just some some awesome highlights,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: quick highlights for you.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Quick highlights. Winter is coming. Damon Bend's the knee freaking
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Helena can see confirmed Dragon dreams right or whatever they're called,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Like we kind of have already known, but she's like
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that we never.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Talked about yet.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That Yeah, she's like full on, I can see the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: future in my dreams and basically help Damon like realize
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that he needs to bend the kne quit being a dick.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And and yeah, other than that, Agon leaving King's Landing,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. He gave himself a nickname, the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Realm's Delight, which I thought was extremely comical. And yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: other than that, those are kind of the big highlights
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for me. And yeah, that's it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I have but two questions for you then before we
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: close this out, the first being for the season, who
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is your MVP character and what is your favorite line
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: from House to the Dragon Season two.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Honestly, my MVP character is Agon, and I'm pissed that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he got so wrecked so quickly because the acting was
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: fantastic and I actually really liked him as king. If
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: everyone around him wasn't like so gung ho about controlling him,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: he might have actually been able to make some decent
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: decisions on his own, because he kind of did right
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: before he got like just mind controlled by everyone. So
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Aggon's kind of the MVP for me. I hope that
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: there's some retribution in his storyline. That would be really cool.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this because it's hilarious and I forgot
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that this was a line. So Damon says this in
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Heron Hall to the this the warden whatever his name
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: is this? What's the guy's name? The Castilian? Yeah, oh no,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. He says it to he says it. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: don't even remember who he says it to. But he's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: trying to raise an army. It might have been Oscar totally.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Did Oscar totally come to see him before earlier in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's seen him before that moment in the
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Gods would I think he saw him like twice before.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I think he's actually telling this Oscar Tolly
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and it's about raising army. And this is Damon's quote,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: my time is short and I have need even army.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Perhaps you'll, perhaps you'll, you'll might place a feather pillow
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: over his head and speed along your inheritance.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: That is that is an amazing moment.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I just stumbled about it on my phone. I was like, oh, wait,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: David says this insane thing.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: That's a that's pretty good for me.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: My MVP is probably it's probably Oscar Tully. We're just like,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: how out of the woods, Like he just came to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the party. Yeah, and just became the center of attention,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: like immediately.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I loved that. Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Badass, just absolutely bad ass. Favorite line though, has to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: be and it's it's from the finale.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: It has to be how many wives do you have hands?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Not even that. How many Lanister bastards were created that night?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Oh man? We could do a whole theory video about that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, we got all these targarian ones we met?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: What about the les?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: How many? How many golden hair? The seed is strong?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: How many golden hairs do we have across the sea?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: All pirates too? They're all pirates?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Oh my god?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Always new rock stars listening. They should be listening. We
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: just came up with their next video. Somehow you made
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: me love that even more?
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Thanks?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, anything for you? I got you?
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, stop it? Nick? How would you rate season two?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: We do out of ten TV right at a ten
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: seven point two out of ten.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty close. Actually, I go.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna do a decimal. I was gonna I
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: was gonna stick with a with a solid number here.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Probably give it a seven. Like it's a good watch.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: It's a really good good watch. Yeah, good watch real
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Definitely rewatch would be on my rewatch list. It's just
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: a cool storyline. And yeah, that's it friends.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: That's it all right. Well, next time you catch us,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: we'll we'll be talking maybe.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Out of time travel Marvel stuff. I don't know where
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: we're at with that all the things.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: If you're if you're trying to figure that out, be
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: sure to follow us on wherever you listen to podcasts.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Follow us on threads so you can listen to Nick
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you witty as hell.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Uh. May the review be with you and until next time,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: may the review be with you. Peace please peace.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: M H.