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UK Column News Podcast 13th May 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the thirteenth of May twenty twenty four,
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just after one o'clock. Welcome to uk column News. I'm your host today,
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but I'm delighted to say I've got Charles Mallett with me in the studio.
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Welcome Charles to a very very wet Plymouth, I must say, but
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we had a glorious weekend, so I think we'll just have to put up
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with the raid for the next couple of days. We've also got Mark Anderson
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with us from the States, and we're hoping very much to have Diane Rasmus
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and mcaddy on with us to give a little report. She had an interview
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with Scottish TV this morning, but we're not sure whether she's able to join
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us or not, so we'll see when the time comes. Well, we're
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going to kick off with matters to do with Ukraine and Charles. Amazing things
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happening over the last of the days because the Russians have opened up a new
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front in the Kharkid direction. Whether this is to produce a buffer zone to
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stop the repeated attacks on the Belgarov area, or it is the start of
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a bigger campaign into the northern region of Ukraine. I'm not sure, but
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what is interesting is how things are being reported across the board by Ministry of
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Defense in uk That's it, Brian, Good afternoon, all. Yes,
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So what we'll do is have a look at the intelligence picture, or at
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least the way that the Ministry of Defense is casting the intelligence picture. So
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they put out regular updates from Defense Intelligence, and as a sort of small
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case study, we'll just look at the update from today in which they concentrate
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on Russia's use of light vehicles effectively. The inference the reader is supposed to
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draw is that there aren't enough armored vehicles left and therefore that the Russians have
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had to resort to desperate measures, and that the Ukrainian f the drones have
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already demonstrated their ability to effectively target such light vehicles. So the question is
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is this really intelligence or is it something else, at something else that forms
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part of the information war. And we'll look further at the intelligence update from
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the tenth of May, in which they report on the Russian Victory Day parade,
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and again the question is is this really intelligence? They talk about sixty
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one military vehicles on display. There was an absence of heavy armored vehicles or
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tracked military vehicles. The lone ceremonial Second World War era T thirty four tank
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starting the parade was the sole main battle tank present. This contrasts with the
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twenty twenty Moscow parade, which included twenty main battle tanks. Well, I'm
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sure anyone who's been following any form of news, but particularly the UK column,
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will have a fairly good idea as to why twenty main battle tanks might
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not have been deployed on such a parade. But of course the defense intelligence
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are saying that the significant losses of Russian Russian personnel and equipment as a result
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of the Ukraine War, there was no opportunity for Russia to use the parades
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to demonstrate military strength. Again, I would question as to whether that is
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intelligence. Further, we look at the battlefield situation, or at least how
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it's being cast, and is this really objective intelligence. Specifically, the little
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parts that identify Crimea and which we're told that it's Ukrainian territory annexed by force
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by Russia in twenty fourteen, and the donbas is referred to being Ukraine territory
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under de facto control of Russia since twenty fourteen, begs the question what is
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defense intelligence, what is it for? And who controls it? The government
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website states that it's part of strategic command. Defense intelligence empowers decision makers in
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Ministry of Defense by providing intelligence products and assessment. Will the language use there
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empowering decision makers? But to do what and with what? Critically oversight?
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Now they say that intelligence activity must be subject to external scrutiny. Now I
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would agree this is absolutely critical, And they go on to talk about the
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Investimenttory powers Commissioner inspecting Defense intelligence records. So they set out the case as
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to how things should actually work. But let's look back to the annual report
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from the Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty
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three, and in particular the statement given by the chair, Sir Julian Lewis
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explaining what the intelligence community is and therefore where defense intelligence sort of sits within
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that. But particularly he concentrates on the current lack of oversight of those parts
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of other policy departments engaged in security and intelligence activities and the impact on the
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assurances that can currently be provided to a parliament. Sorry to Parliament and the
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public regarding those activities is a of serious concern. He goes on and talks
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about the government failing to update the committee's remit to include those parts of polity
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departments to which intelligence and security responsibilities have been devolved, and says it is
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deeply disappointing that effective scrutiny of national security issues is being prevented in direct contravention
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of commitments given to Parliament. So the question whether the government has really thought
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through the consequences of its current position. Further, he goes on to talk
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about the oversight being frustrated and describes that it therefore cannot provide any assurance to
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the public or Parliament that the intelligence agencies are acting appropriately. So this is
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fairly damning, and he wraps up by saying the National Security Advisor himself acknowledged
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the intelligence communities license to operate is dependent upon credible oversights. So it looks
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really like what defense intelligence are producing. And indeed, the lack of scrutiny
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is creating a huge amount of very political not just that, but also it
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allows a narrative, a creeping narrative involving conscription and fear, and indeed the
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idea of war with Russia to creep in, and I would illustrate that with
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the slide that the British Army have up at the moment talking about Steadfast Defender,
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which I've shown before, and I think it's almost impossible to interpret an
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illustration like this without thinking that in some way we are already at war with
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Russia. And further, just to sort of square the circle, we look
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at Chathamhouse publishing this just last week a piece called the UK should not rule
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out sending troops to Ukraine despite Putin's nuclear threats, and there's a picture of
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David Cameron, who of course was reported on just last week as having said
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some fairly extraordinary things about the use of the weapons that Ukraine was being sent
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by the UK, which Brian spoke about on Friday. He and specifically said
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without caveats and indeed effectively washed his hands of whatever might happen to British munitions
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once they've left for Ukraine, and he said that their decision about how to
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use these weapons is entirely their affair. So the part that Defense intelligence seems
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to be playing in all of this is highly questionable, and indeed it's really
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very hard to look at it as a straight intelligence product. Bran, I'm
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sure you've got a comment to make on exactly the way that things are looking
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well. Well, my comment, particularly on the tweets being put out by
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Defense Intelligence is how unbelievably childish they are to try and suggest that Russia's so
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short tanks it couldn't put them at the parade. Is just utter nonsense.
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But there can only be one thing going on, and that is that Defense
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Intelligence is attempting to mislead the British public as to what's really happening. And
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this is misinformation and it's information and as such, to me it forms propaganda
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to give the public mind a different opinion than reality as to what's actually happening
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in Ukraine. So I think this is pretty shocking and a lack of oversight
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being stated. There's some serious questions need to be asked. Okay, well,
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if that's what's happening overseas. My attention was focused rapidly over the weekend
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by a number of people saying have you seen this document, which indeed I
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hadn't. It's called the Antisemitism Policy Trust Conspiracy Theories, a guide for members
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of parliament and candidates. Now when you see these documents, it's always good
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to have a look at who's involved. I'll come back to these particular organizations
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in just a moment, but it says here special thanks to Dr Matthew Sweet
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for advising on this guide, and I'll come back to him in a minute.
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But if you go looking a little bit for this document, a Guardian
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article pops up quickly. What conspiracy theories are UK and ps being told to
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look out for? MPs and election candidates are being given a guide about conspiracy
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theories covering topics such as five G and the climate crisis. But some important
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information in here, because the Guardian says the guide was commissioned by Penny Morden,
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the Leader of the House of Commons, who launched it with the Shadow
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Leader Lucy Powell a mid concern about impact conspiracy theories, in many cases with
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anti Semitic overtones. Well, a bit more detail on what this thing was
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about. Let's bring in a bit more texts the guide to inform members of
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Parliament parliamentary candidates about the risks and to try and draw out some of the
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key themes in order that you can be prepared to quickly assess and understand new
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conspiracy theories as they emerge. In this guide, we outline what conspiracy theories
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are, their appeal, and an oversight of eight prominent conspiracies in the United
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Kingdom, and it goes on to say that conspiracy theories do not exist in
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isolation, but share and borrow core components. Numerous conspiracy theories are rooted in
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anti Jewish racism. Key in this text, of course, is that the
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MPs are not bright enough to work out what is a conspiracy theory or not
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themselves. They should rely on this document by the Antisemitism Policy Trust. So
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our MPs unfortunately just not bright enough to work out what's true and what's not.
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But if we go on through we start to see more information on Twitter.
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This is Matthew Sweet who was tweeting out that it was strangely sorry.
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It shows that there's something about the strangely touching faith that conspiracy theorists have in
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the power of institutions and the desire to see patterns that don't exist, which
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has so often end up with fantasies about secret Jewish power. Very very quickly,
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the heavy pro Jewish or conspiracy theories which are being flagged up as being
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anti Semitic. This is the meat of this document. So if we move
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on through, these are some of the organizations connected. We haven't got time
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in today's news to go into them in detail, but let's bring in the
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first one here CST. Now, this organization is almost like a private police
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force to protect the Jewish community, but it says that it's also screening them
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from racism, anti Semitism, and ultimately it's working to promote and help the
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Jewish community at all times. So the minimum you can say is this is
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an extremely pro Jewish organization. Here's the Global Network on Extremism and Technology.
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And if we bring in some text here, we find that this is an
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academic research initiative backed by the Global Internet Forum to counter terrorism. So this
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is getting darker. This is operating worldwide, but apparently this organization is helping
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to educate our MPs. Here's tell Mamma. Now, this one is supposedly
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protecting the Islamic community from anti islam comments and racism. In the small print,
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it says tell Mamma is a National project of Faith Matters CIC Community Interest
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Company. I'll bring the text in in white, so it's not hidden in
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the small print. But my question for the audience is a little prompt and
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just who is faith matters cicee? Because once we get investigating faith matters cicee,
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it becomes even more difficult to see who's behind them. So this guide
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for our politicians which Penny Mordant has has commissioned, very very difficult to see
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who is really the power behind it in many areas. If we mentioned full
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fact, well that's an easy one because just do you search on UK column
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and you can find that we've warned and warned about the duplicitous nature of this
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organization over many years. One article full fact equals faux fact. But have
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a look on UK column and you can see some of our concerns and warnings.
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But a big thank you to Mike Robinson who is away speaking at the
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weekend about the clamp down on free speech, and he had mentioned the very
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Institute for Strategic Dialogue tied in with this anti Semitism organization and here it is
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powering solutions to extremism, hate and disinformation, mentioning elon Musk. But it
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says it partners with government, cities, businesses and communities to deliver solutions at
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all levels. Headquartered in London, with a global footprint of teams in Washington,
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Berlin, Aman Roby and Paris. So this isn't a small organization.
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It's actually very powerful. But now it's advising British MPs. If we carry
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on through, it says that they're tracking online manipulation, disinformation, hate and
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extremism in real time. So does this mean that we're all being watched now
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to see whether we dare to say something which could be construed as anti semitic.
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It's a very worrying situation. But also it says that they're working to
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empower civil society, fostering networks of community influencers and saying that we've trained over
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thirty two thousand activists and social influencers at around the world. So I'm going
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to suggest this document that Penny Morton has commissioned is nothing to do with protecting
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the Jewish community. This is about locking down on other members of the community
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and using these very powerful organizations to do so. So if we just come
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back to the document, there was one other name that caught my attention.
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Let's bring in a big before we do this is hidden when you look at
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the document, but there's a little bit of a subliminal It says the Earth
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is flat, which of course is to catch the eye of those politicians reading
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the Anti Semitism Policy Trust document. But this was the other name that caught
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my eye, Aria Kovla, And when I went looking for him, we
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quickly come to Twitter and he says, hey, that's my name on the
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cover. I was proud to contribute to chapter on global control conspiracy theories in
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the Great Reset. To this guide, this is the gentleman concerned, very
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young, not sure what his expertise is, but he gets onto the World
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Economic Forum very quick to say that this is one of the big targets of
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conspiracy theorists. He then mentions the Great Reset, but not to worry,
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because this is just something that Prince Charles got involved in. So encourage viewers
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today to go and have a look at the Green King series on the UK
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column when Debbie Evans and myself have been warning and warning about the real power
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that King Charles has and what work he's doing to enact this global reset.
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But just to stress the fact that the basis for this document is to protect
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people from anti Semitism. It's extremely pro Jewish. Here, we've got a
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diagram they have where all of the key chapters of the Antisemitism Policy Trust Document
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are linked back to antisemitism. And basically, I'm saying that any critical analysis
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of policy according to these people is antisemitism. If we go to the conclusion,
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we don't need to spend long on this, but I will encourage people
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to go through these particular areas. Basically, again, it comes down to
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the fact that MPs need this help to inform inform themselves and their constituents.
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But basically it says that when people are presented with verified, reliable facts,
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they start to pay attention. Why is it then that when we challenge the
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government and global organizations for the verified, reliable facts, we're simply told to
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be quiet. So I'm going to win this segment by saying that in reality,
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this report is designed to stop busy MPs from thinking for themselves, and
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it's also designed to channel MPs into believing any chrism of government global policy is
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conspiracy theory, and as such, that means that this document itself is information
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and propaganda. A lot to be discussed there, Charles, but we'll save
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that for extra I'm just going to play a little clip here of a video
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that was sent into us. This is this is by a music band and
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let's have a look at this and then I'll explain what it's about and we'll
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show the full video extra time. There are people out in the world right
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now that are drinking something called raw milk. The top concern for the next
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two years is not conflict or climate. It is disinformation and misinformation, the
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sharing of biased and unfortunately misinformation. Hm. Well, there we are a
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little taster from raw milk conspiracy. If you want to see the full music
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video, join us for UK column extra time. But we're going to poke
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a bit of fun back at the Anti Semitism Policy Trust and what conspiracy is
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and is not. Well, let's move on to an area which is also
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of interest to many people concerned about real conspiracies, and that's Builderberg. Welcome
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to today's news, Mark, what have you got for us? Well,
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the main thing, gentlemen, is that we pretty much know where a builder
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berg is going to happen, and we got a pretty good jump on it.
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Normally, as we know building meetings dot Org their official website, they
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don't want to release the information where and when until almost the last minute,
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because they don't want conspiracy theorists quote unquote journalists hanging around much less the so
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called legacy media. But what we have here in this first slide is that
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Nea Tider, which is Swedish, that Swedish media outlet, had some communication
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with the government and they evidently found out that Bilderberg will take place in Madrid,
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Spain, the thirtieth of May through June second, so a pretty good
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jump compared to what Builderberg meetings would be willing to do. Also shown in
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this slide that first slide was The Nordic Times, also in Scandinavia, and
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moving on from there, the first American website to pick it up, American
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Free Press Builderberg twenty twenty four found in Spain, and there's a picture of
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the hotel and it's the Eurostar Hotel, the Eurostar Hotel as it's known.
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Moving on from there here we get into a little bit of the Swedish publication
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Neo Tider's angle that they got this from as the first magazine in the world.
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I'm not sure what they mean by that. I'm reading from this slide
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here Neo Tider discloses where and when twenty twenty fours Builderberg Medium will take place.
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This publication has been in contact with the Swedish government office and invoked Sweden's
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constitutionally protected principle of public access to official records. That's doing better than the
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American government could ever do, and probably UK's as well, in order in
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order to be able to obtain documents regarding for this. Let's not go too
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fast on the one slide to another. Anyway, there's been correspondence and Neo
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Tider was in touch with a secretary to a EU men named Angela. Thanks
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for the call earlier. As I mentioned, it concerns the minister's availability to
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attend the Builderberg meetings in Madrid on May thirty until June second, etc.
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Et cetera. Moving on from there anyway, the invitation to Buildeberg came from
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Sarah Nimot Sarah Nyman excuse me at investor AB, the mighty Swedish business family,
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Wallenberg's investment company. The email reveals a startling fact. Sarah Nyman who
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invited the minister. The Swedish Minister, in fact has no position within the
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Builderberg Group. Instead, she's employed at investor AB as executive assistant to Marcus
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Wallenberg, which in practice means that she is the closest secretary to that Swedish
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business magnate. It is also from an email address at investor AB that she
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contacts the Swedish Cabinet Committee. Moving from there, here's a little bit about
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mister Wallenberg himself, vice chairman at investor AB, the Wallenberg Spears investment company
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through which it owns large shares and thus gains decisive influence in large Swedish and
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international companies. For example, investor AB is the largest shareholder in the Bank
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SEB, where Marcus Wallenberg is chairman of the board of directors. He is
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also notably, of course, a member of the Builderberg Group's exclusive steering committee,
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which is between thirty and forty members, which is responsible for who comes
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and where they're going to meet, financing what they're going to talk about.
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The fact that his secretary, Wallenberg Secretary is now inviting the EU minister indicates
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that it's mister Wallenberg who's really in charge of which Swedish ministers come. That's
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the Naya tider's outlook or opinion on what's happening in her reply to Sarah Nima,
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the secretary at the Swedish government's Cabinet Committee, Angela Kennedy, responds that
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the EU Minister Roswall will not be able to participate. Which ministers will participate
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is thus still unknown to the public in terms of Swedish ministers anyway, the
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Builderberg group's well known strategy, as I mentioned earlier, is to wait until
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the very end to make the meeting and its participants public, with the aim
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of making media scrutiny more difficult. Information before or after the meeting is also
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not made public by any governments, claiming that whoever attends the meetings does so
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as a private person that ties into the Chatham House rule. We'll go from
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there. Naya Tider was the only Swedish newspaper they're claiming to reveal. And
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this is interesting that the government's NATO negotiator, Sweden's NATO negotiator Oscar Stenstrom attended
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the Builderberg meeting last year in Lisbon, Portugal. And here's the notable part.
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His presence was secret. He was not on the official list of participants.
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Guys. Shortly after the meeting he resigned from his position. We're told
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at the Swedish government office and was instead then employed by Marcus Wallenberg himself.
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So this is one example, guys that we've heard of over the years when
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I would cover Builderberg with Jim Tucker at AFP in years past, that there
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were always assumed to be people there that were not on the official list released
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by the official website Builderberg Meetings dot org. And that's one example. There
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have been others. In this last lide, we have kind of an interesting
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twist, and that is at wikispooks there is we'll call it a conspiracy theory.
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I'm being a little bit tongue in cheek here. There's information reasonably convincing
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that Builderbergers, as I'm sharing here have taken a part, have taken part
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excuse me, in pandemic planning exercises. That is, people that have attended
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Bilderberg over the years, they're saying, have been instrumental in COVID pandemic exercises
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and anywhere active in early twenty twenty promoting fear and doubt and setting the scene
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for the COVID event, controlling the narrative to promote the fear of the novel
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deadly virus. In May twenty twenty and at least fourteen people who have attended
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Builderberg this alleges signed something called the United behind a People's Vaccine against COVID nineteen,
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which is being called a call to create an infrastructure capable of rapidly injecting
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everyone in the world with the COVID jabs, which they correctly predicted would appear.
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They populated, they being people who have attended Builderberg fairly frequently. They
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populated COVID task forces and locked the world down and uncritically pushed these vaxes to
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the point of announcing mandates. So that Wikispook's link, which I shared,
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viewers can look at that later and decide for themselves. But it's a very
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intriguing and compelling posts there at wikispook, and it's a lot of food for
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thought. But anyway, there's more to share on the other Builderberg later in
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the show. That's very intriguing. And that's it for now, guys.
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So it looks like the jiggers up and it looks like we know where they're
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meeting. Well, thank you very much for that. Well, of course,
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in my head we know that they're unbelievably secretive and there's only one reason
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that you hold meetings in secret, and that's to deny people information. And
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the fact that you are reporting and we are reporting on this. According to
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the Anti Semitism Policy, trust means that we're automatically into a conspiracy. No,
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we want the truth about what's actually happening inside these meetings, so we'll
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continue to ask questions. Thank you very much for the report. Now,
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I'm very pleased to say that Diane Rasmusen mcaddie has been able to join us.
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Diane, can you hear me? Yes, Brian's great to be here
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and appears as though they're doing a fire all arm test in a library at
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the exact time that I'm on the spear, so apologies for that. So
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yes, I just came from stv uh the situation on the Finnetty case.
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I'm not sure if you'd like to say a little bit more about that,
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or if you like to share the video that I brought Diana. I think
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what we should do is, I've got a little clip from the video that
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you kindly pointed us to, so let's have a listen to that. It's
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mister Swiney himself talking about the for Nesie case. Let's let's watch that and
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then we'll bring you back on screen. So all of those questions will be
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explored as part of the processive proper consideration of the issues that are eased for
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media. So are you holding yours hole for them? And they could be
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included, but the panel legislated for a particular scheme which has got eligible as
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it stands, they say exclusive on the vier the petitions Committee in the moodment
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and they see the excludsive or you know, these issues are explore, will
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engage with the petitions committee. The Petitions Committee has criticus points to the government
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and they will be considered to watch. Robson was there. She refused to
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do that. She said that there was no fun into that. Well,
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but we will look at all of that evidence to see if there was.
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He will look again a friends, Well, we're looking at that to them
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and whether there is any opportunity to pursue the issues that are raised by the
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individuals that are concerned. But what I'm maintain is the part of that is
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taking decisions already to establish a scheme on that basis, and that's what we
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need considered. But can you give them any hope to they as possibilist.
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But what I'm saying out is that we have an approach to redress which is
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being followed assiduously within the see. I am pleased that the individuals whould be
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supported as a consequence of that scheme and the gable, of course engage with
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individuals you seek eligibility to that scene. I'll just say it's possible that the
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audio was a little bit low on that. What mister Swinney was saying.
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He was being challenged about would the Finethe ladies be allowed to take part in
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the Scottish redress. He was saying there are a number of checks and balances,
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but essentially it was picking up that he was indicating that they would be
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able to come forward and to make application. But Diane, you've done the
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interview with Scottish TV this morning. What's your take on mister Swinney and what
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he was saying. Well, I was there Brion with four of the Finette
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survivors who were interviewed as well, and they showed us that clip and then
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asked us for our reactions to the clip. The reaction from the women,
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first of all, is that they were angry. They felt like they were
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getting nowhere. Once again, I feel like even though John Swinnie likes to
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take responsibility for setting up the criteria and the redress scheme when he was Deputy
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First Minister, he doesn't understand his own criteria. And I say that because
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the problem is that if you read the criteria, and this is part of
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the evidence that I had submitted in support of the petition from the Finesias Vibers
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to the government, is that it specifically excludes them because of phrases like short
31:03
term care, things like holiday home, things like restpit facility. We know
31:08
that holiday home, restpit facility, convalescent are not accurate under the way it
31:14
was set up under Glasgow Education Corporation, that it was a residential school.
31:17
I have made that point over and over again. It wasn't like the parents
31:21
dropped them off the holidays. So the key issue is whether or not they
31:25
are considered in local parentice in care of the state, which I was able
31:27
to establish they are through the various acts and bills and legislation and structures that
31:33
were in place at the time. But what John Swinney said back in January
31:37
twenty twenty three, and I quote, I do not think that there is
31:41
an inherent impediment to applications coming forward and being considered. To put it slightly
31:45
more bluntly, I reject the idea that the scheme is not for feinite these
31:49
survivors. I think that it is possible for Fromiz these survivors to be successful
31:53
in applying under the scheme. So my concern is that he doesn't understand his
31:57
own criteria and he seems to be backpedaling just a bit from what he was
32:01
saying back in January of twenty twenty three. Brian, I'm very sad to
32:07
hear that, Diane. I must say, when I listened to that clip
32:10
this morning, I was thinking, this is an interesting statement. This may
32:15
be a difficult question for you, but what about Scottish TV, a major
32:20
media channel north of the border. Do they seem to understand the importance of
32:24
getting the finethe women into the redress system? They do? And I will
32:30
say first of all that my allegiances live with UK Colum and I was only
32:34
ONSTV because I was asked to be there. But Colin Mackay is the reporter
32:38
who's been following it. But one of the problems that they've had in recent
32:42
Times is they have invited Scottish TV to cover the last couple of meetings that
32:46
we've had with Additions Committee. However the last minute the reporters have pulled out,
32:51
saying there was no camera person available or they can't make it, somebody's
32:55
unwell. But Colin actually got them in today because this was his first interview
33:00
with John Swinney's First Minister that he had last week, and he specifically asked
33:05
about for Nettie because he's been following the case very carefully. I would say
33:08
that Colin mackay realizes that Seanna Robinson's performance in the committee two months ago when
33:15
we were there was terrible and he felt like John Swinney's reply was slightly better.
33:21
But I also don't see the strength that we signed him when he was
33:23
in Deputy first Minister. I'm wondering if the pressure is on him a bit
33:27
now that he is the boss and he has to make a decision when we
33:30
or the other what to do with potentially thousands of abused women that went to
33:32
for Neie Diane. Very good point. We could just say, is he
33:37
the boss and all the other people behind the scenes who are powerful enough to
33:42
pull strings on mister Swinney himself who knows, but we'll watch this with interest.
33:47
I'm going to say thank you very much for the report and of course
33:51
we will stay supporting for for NEI women and doing everything we can. And
33:57
I know that you're busy with more research to the archives, so thank you
34:01
very much for joining us and we will have you back again. Well where
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35:31
nineteenth at one o'clock to three pm, and that's from National Security to Biosecurity,
35:38
Global power, dynamics and the erosion of freedom in the twenty first century.
35:43
And this is a symposium in honor of the late Graham McQueen, author
35:47
of the two thousand and one Anthrax deception The Case for a Domestic Conspiracy.
35:52
Oh my goodness, there's that word again. And we've got Madava Seti MD
36:00
and Merrill Nas MD, both of whom have made comments common challenges facing freedom
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movements, observations from an engineer and anist the logist. If I pronounced that
36:15
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36:22
Preparedness agenda is Merril NAS so do tune in to see that. Okay,
36:29
well, where does that take us? I think this brings us back to
36:30
you, Charles, and you're on the subject of water. Indeed, water.
36:36
We've spoke a lot about food and the probable scarcity of it towards the
36:40
end of this year on various UK column broadcasts. Recently we have not spoken
36:45
too much about water. But we start with a publication or announcement from the
36:50
OEP, the Office for Environmental Protection, which appears to be rather mundane and
36:53
that it concerns regulations. But they say they find it deeply concerning that there
36:58
are issues with how the laws in place protect England's rivers, lakes and coastal
37:01
waters are being put into practice. This comes from a recent review of implementation
37:07
of the Water Framework, Directive Regulations and river basin management planning in England.
37:12
Now I would caution against taking this at face value, but I will nonetheless
37:16
read from the executive summary. They say that the government is not on track
37:20
to meet the environmental objectives it has set under the regulations. Where they're concerned
37:24
about the environmental objectives with the twenty twenty seven deadlines of the sense of urgency.
37:29
There, the measures in place and planned and the funds committed are not
37:31
yet close to being enough to meet these outcomes for most water bodies. Without
37:37
significant additional action and resources applied with pace and ambition, they appear likely to
37:42
be missed by a large margin. So we've got that on the one hand,
37:46
talking about the regulatory side of things. But what it encourages to have
37:51
a look at what DEFRA have to say about their plan for water for the
37:54
United Kingdom, and in particular the Integrated Plan for delivering clean and play into
38:00
full water. But what is it in actual fact that they do. Look
38:02
at Chapter two here delivering a clean water environment for people and nature, and
38:07
this is now charming very much with policy on food land and indeed woodland.
38:15
But they talk about being in a naturally and healthy, sorry healthy and naturally
38:19
functioning state. River streams, ponds, lakes, wetlands, estuaries and coasts
38:22
deliver multiple benefits for society indeed, but how these benefits include flood risk management,
38:30
carbon secret situation, clean water and drug resilience. Access to blue spaces
38:36
can also boost health and well being. Restoring our water habits will mean that
38:39
people and wildlife can still benefit from these ecosystems for generations to come. That
38:45
may well be the case, but how exactly are they going to benefit and
38:50
under what conditions? So we'll look a bit further into water policy or what's
38:54
been going on recently, and believe it or not, I don't know what
38:58
the weather's like with you today, but here it's bucketing down. As Brian
39:00
said, we've got the National Drought Group meeting after a record wet October to
39:06
March, and apart from the sort of in Congress nature of that headline,
39:10
we will actually look at what they say because it is very significant. By
39:14
twenty fifty we may need nearly five billion additional meters of water per day to
39:20
meet the demand for public water supply. So we will look back or think
39:22
back to the pace and ambition that the OEP were talking about, and that
39:27
leads us to something that Debbie was talking about on Friday, which is sorry
39:31
previous Friday, the third of May, and it's the World Economic Forum Global
39:37
Water Initiative and specifically the Champions for Water Innovation, within which they talk about
39:44
supporting a range of collaborations to identify and scale up a new generation of public
39:49
private collaborations that can accelerate implementation of strategic development. So sorry, Sustainable Development
39:55
Goal six, the dedicated goal on water and sanitation. And they conclude by
40:00
talking about re energizing and reframing the global dialogue on water security. So it
40:07
was Joan hang on, I've for gotten my name, Joan Vino, I
40:12
think, sorry, Von who Debbie cited as really picking into this idea of
40:17
the public private partnership and in effect this is exactly where we see the direction
40:22
of travel in the UK. And of course the other thing to bear in
40:24
mind is the utter failure to address the increase in population over the last forty
40:30
years, with the failure to have built any more reservoirs. We've got Haven't
40:35
Thicket Reservoir, which I have spoken about before. And just to remind you
40:37
that although they're casting it as being a freshwater drinking supply and actual fact a
40:42
significant proportion of the water that goes into it for drinking will in fact be
40:46
recycled. They say it's going to be ready by twenty twenty nine. Is
40:49
that the case? Anglian Water talking about a bold new vision on the Fens
40:53
Yorkshire Water eight point five million given to a service reservoir project underway. So
40:59
there are things happening now, perhaps on a slightly more trivial or at least
41:04
apparently trivial basis. There is a press release today from DEFRA talking about the
41:10
number of new bathing sites getting the go ahead, and the reason I would
41:15
posit that this is significant is that it talks about reforming the bathing water regulations
41:21
and in particular increasing the monitoring, and they talk a lot about monitoring outside,
41:27
monitoring outside of the bathing water season and preventing automatic dedesignation of existing bathing
41:32
water sites. Of course, the point being that once you have designated a
41:37
bathing site, then you have control over it, and that's exactly what we're
41:40
seeing with the production of food. It's all to do with the control of
41:46
the particular piece of land. When we think about this in terms of the
41:50
Sustainable Markets in theitiative and the Terra Carata thirty by thirty and this push to
41:54
be effectively controlling spaces in order that access to those may be perhaps restricted in
42:04
future for the public. The other thing, of course, that control of
42:07
bathing site gifts is the ability for the government to be able to dangle the
42:13
specter of fear from a public health concern. And we see here headline from
42:19
the Telegraph talking about the possibility of polluted water, and on the public private
42:23
partnership side of it, new civil engineer reporting about the Environment Agency appointing a
42:29
consultant for a seventy million pound contract for mapping climate event data. And we
42:35
just finish off here with JBA Consulting tweeting out that they're excited to be part
42:39
of this appointment for the mapping and modeling framework. So, as I say,
42:46
the point here is the ability of these bodies that are able to control
42:52
water, the use of water, and indeed to effectively exactly as Joan Vionn
42:59
was talking about, to take assets that are really public assets that are initially
43:04
controlled by the state and hand them over to corporations for all sorts of gains
43:08
that would not be to the public advantage. A no conspiracy there, absolute
43:14
fact in what you're reporting, Charles, which is an important thing I think
43:17
to stress today. Okay, thank you very much for that. Now where
43:22
does that bring us? I think that's back on to Mark Anderson, who's
43:25
going to bring us up to date. The latest from the World Health Organization,
43:30
another organization seeking control. What's important, gentlemen and listeners in UK coylum
43:39
Land, is that the May ten deadline was reached. Government's degree in this
43:45
WHO press release, I'm reading from Government's degree to continue their steady progress and
43:50
proposed Pandemic agreement ahead of the World Health Assembly. And it's dated May tenth,
43:55
and that was the last official day of the inter government negotiating body that
44:01
was created a couple of years ago or so to negotiate this treaty, and
44:06
the treaty is now being called a treaty most of the time by the World
44:10
Health Organization. I need that previous slide up still with the headline, if
44:15
I may anyway just a little bit of this. Governments of the world today
44:21
agreed to continue working on a proposed Pandemic Agreement. They use the word agreement
44:25
and treaty interchangeably, and to further refine the draft ahead of the seventy seventh
44:30
World Health Assembly that starts May twenty seven and ends June second, almost in
44:37
line with Bildeberg, which is May thirty through June second. Governments meeting at
44:40
THEWHO headquarters in Geneva agreed to resume hybrid and in person discussion over the coming
44:47
weeks to advance work on critical issues, including around a proposed new global system
44:53
for pathoge and access and benefits sharing, that is, life saving vaccines quote
45:00
quote, treatments and diagnostic pandemic prevention, and of course the one Health philosophy
45:06
which looks at humans and animals and plant life on the same level and same
45:10
value judgments, and the financial coordination that's needed. So what it means,
45:16
though, is the I ANDB stopped their official negotiating on May tenth, as
45:21
promised, and now they're really just going to resume at the World Health Assembly
45:25
itself, as is being indicated at least by all indications. Now, there's
45:30
a couple of quick quotes in this brief report. This is from a May
45:34
third press conference that I covered. This is Precious met sos As she's known
45:40
a WHO apparatic. She said this the adoption of a treaty is not the
45:45
end of a process. It is a beginning. Once the World Health Assembly
45:50
adopts this pandemic agreement, then it kickstarts other processes, firstly at a country
45:55
level. And there's one other quote from her. There must be ratifications,
46:01
she says, by parliaments, and we have to get a threshold of countries
46:06
that ratifies to treaties so that it can come into force. So she's basically
46:10
saying that parliaments, which would include Congress on our side of the pond,
46:15
will have a stab at this. The noted WHO watchdog James Ruguski James Reguski
46:21
dot substack dot com, he has some doubts about the veracity of that.
46:27
He thinks they're being a little disingenuous and just telling people what they want to
46:30
hear, and that they'll take a largely executive approach to this and not let
46:37
the elected people in parliaments and Congress have much, if any say. I
46:40
guess that remains to be seen. The US Senate rules on treaties does provide
46:47
for the constitutionally required advice and consent by the Senate, where two thirds a
46:52
supermajority of the one hundred Senators have to vote yes or no on a given
46:59
thing like this treaty. However, in the Senate rules, it does provide
47:02
for an alternative that would be largely, if not totally, an executive decision,
47:07
where the President would make the call and the Senate would be cut out
47:12
of the equation, so the involvement of our elected reps guys kind of remains
47:16
to be seen. The other thing is that there's a statement in article thirty
47:22
five of the draft treaty that I find very ambiguous and hard to understand.
47:25
But at the press conference I covered May third, where these photos came from
47:29
that I took, they said that sixty nations would have to adopt the treaty
47:36
for it to come into force. The only thing that I'm not clear on
47:38
is would it be sixty and then it would go to the parliaments or would
47:44
sixty countries through their parliaments have to vote on this to make it come into
47:47
force. Which way would it be? So I'm trying to unravel that,
47:52
and next week I hope to have that completely ironed out as to exactly how
47:58
this would come into force. If it does, and there's still some language
48:01
being used, I'll end with this where they're still kind of suggesting that they're
48:07
not quite as far along on this thing as they'd like people to believe,
48:10
So it's possible they'll get past the World Health Assembly without adopting this treaty which
48:16
would buy a lot of time for those that are against it, and so
48:21
much remains to be seen. But that's the latest news. Okay, well,
48:24
thank you very much. Well that one seems to me to be another
48:28
power grabbed by the World Health Organization. Meanwhile, we're still trying to deal
48:32
with what took place around COVID itself. And I just want to say a
48:37
very big thank you to people north of the border who gave me a little
48:42
bit of a prompt to cover some of the material about the Scottish COVID inquiry.
48:47
And I've got a short section here, but we hope to have more
48:51
in the coming UK column News edition. So this is BBC News here with
48:57
a report Scottish COVID Inquiry. Public wanks to share experiences of pandemic. But
49:02
when you get into the text, it says that the Scottish government will the
49:07
inquiry will take place from the first of January twenty twenty to the end of
49:12
twenty twenty two. It's investigating pre pandemic planning, the decision to go into
49:16
lockdown, supply and distribution of personal protective equipment, and how the virus was
49:22
dealt within care homes. It will establish facts and lessons learned, so nobody
49:29
is going to be brought to book for this. It's all lessons learned.
49:32
Let's just have a look at a very short clip showing how this inquiry is
49:37
conducted and a young lady speaking about how she was adversely affected during the COVID
49:45
nineteen period. No, good morning, mister, Ami, morning, my
49:52
lord. Our next witness is Keith Stott and her witness statement reference for the
49:59
record is sci WT zero three nine seven dash five zeros one. Good morning,
50:08
miss Stott. Good morning. Right, mister Bramley's got some questions for
50:13
you, and we'll just start when she's ready. Thank you, my lord,
50:17
Good morning, miss Stot. Morning. Starting with your background briefly,
50:22
you had a few health issues as a child, which resolved by adulthood,
50:29
and as an adult you began experiencing Crohn's disease, and alongside that you have
50:35
annual bouts of strep throat, alongside reactive arthritis and weakness in your legs.
50:40
Is that correct? Correct? Yes, thank you. I'll just say it's
50:45
tragic what people experienced during the COVID nineteen period, and I think it's interesting
50:55
how few people there are in that room Charles. When I look at it,
50:59
we've got a TV screen and man who's not even present, he's on
51:02
a TV screen, one or two people in the room, and so many
51:07
people adversely affected. So I found that very sad. If you want to
51:13
see more information on sorry, I just pop back here. If you want
51:19
to see more reliable information on what actually took part took place with COVID nineteen
51:24
North of the Border, there's a very good substack here, the biologically biology
51:30
for non substack, and I was kindly sent a couple of reports by Moira
51:36
Dundee. So we've got Scottish COVID nineteen inquiry Impact Hearing, Health and Social
51:42
Care, and there are a number of people who spoke out about really tragic
51:50
events around what happened to family members and loved ones. I've got another one
51:55
here. Highlights from this session include Miss Lorrainezi representing pamis speaking of the hearts
52:02
from lockdown restrictions on her disabled son David. So if you want to go
52:07
to this particular substack, I'm told that the information there is extremely good.
52:15
This is another one where a lady lost her brother. I think he was
52:20
just forty one and she says the doctors were lying to me on a daily
52:23
basis, nurses were lying to me on a daily basis. Everything that was
52:28
in my brother's notes was different to what I was being told on a daily
52:31
basis. An in set on screen, we've got a freedom of information response
52:37
in Scotland where the authorities have been asked to tell the total amount of death
52:43
where COVID nineteen was noted as the soul cause of death on a death certificate
52:49
within all hospitals in the NHS Tayside from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three.
52:54
And if you look at the responses, if it's eighty plus years, which
53:00
would be extremely vulnerable, in the top section, we've just got five,
53:06
then seven, then less than five and less than five. So these are
53:09
very small numbers of the people that we were all being told were unbelievably vulnerable.
53:15
And then I'd like to just add to this short report that Moira Dundee,
53:21
who UK Column knows as very gutsy woman, and you can listen to
53:24
my audio interview with Maura if you go to the UK column website. She
53:30
told me yesterday that when activists including herself, tried and failed to hand in
53:36
witness statements to the police, which included evidence of Ford signatures. A police
53:42
sergeant said, I should not be taking on an investigation myself. This will
53:49
would go to a national COVID inquiry. The police know, we all know
53:52
COVID inquiries have no law enforcement powers, which I mentioned. They're simply there,
53:59
they say, to find facts and report lessons learned. But it goes
54:05
on to say by refusing to accept evidence complaints against NHS doctors, Police Scotland
54:10
is showing blatant selective law enforcement. Doctors are clearly being protected. And she
54:16
then says this begs the question, if it's not a police matter, NHS
54:22
doctors describing drugs which hasten death and forging patient signatures, why did the police
54:29
investigate doctor Harold Shipman. Either all doctors ought to be investigated when suspicion arises,
54:35
or no doctors investigated. Harold Shipman was regarded as perhapsing excellent medicine biased
54:42
colleagues, a doctor told disciplinary hearing today and that was as reported by the
54:46
Guardian. So I'm going to say a big thank you to Maurra Dundee for
54:51
that little report. UK column will do more on what's been happening north of
54:57
the border in due course. But do have a look at that obstat and
55:01
where does that bring us back to yourself? I think it does and to
55:06
space, which you may or may not have detected, has received an awful
55:12
lot of sort of press coverage government announcements is great sort of generation of enthusiasm
55:16
about all things concerning space. And the somewhat surprising headline from Vascan News just
55:22
last week that the head of NASA, Bill Nelson, on the Vatican observatori's
55:28
work to explore the heavens, and this is reinforced by the NASA website itself.
55:31
He's off to Italy, Vatican and Saudi Arabia. And here we are
55:36
we see the Vascan Observatory website talking about faith inspiring science, which might ask
55:42
one or two questions about the beliefs of the Catholic Church. We won't get
55:45
ogg down in that. But however, what it does seem to obscure and
55:47
obfuscate is what's been happening at the United Nations. And on the twenty fourth
55:52
April, the announcement that the Security Council failed to adopt a first ever resolution
55:58
on arms race in out of space due to negative vote by Russian federations.
56:01
So, of course the UN presumably supposed to be impartial in these matters,
56:06
very much blaming Russia. But what they do at least have the grace to
56:09
do is report what the Russian representatives said, which is that the Council is
56:15
involved in a dirty spectacle prepared by the US and Japan. He described it
56:20
as a cynical ploy. We are being tricked, and critically here he recalls
56:24
that the ban on placing weapons of mass destruction in outer space is already enshrined
56:29
in the nineteen sixty seven out of Space Treaty, and he said that in
56:34
Washington and Tokyo and their allies are cherry picking weapons of mass destruction out of
56:38
all other weapons, trying to camouflage their lack of interest in outer space being
56:43
free from any kinds of weapons. So, in effect, what is this
56:46
all about, and what were the US and Japan up to and how does
56:51
that bear relation to what the United Kingdom has to say about this? Well,
56:54
really, it concerns that what might be described as the militarization of space,
57:00
upon which there was a House of Commons briefing paper put out in twenty
57:04
twenty one, and within that there is the statement, of course that in
57:07
the last few years there's been considerable investment by several states, most notably Russia
57:13
and China, in offensive counter space capabilities that potentially threatened the use of space
57:17
by UK and its allies. The US has responded by calling for a rapid
57:22
increase in the development of counterspace capability and the adoption of more aggressive politics and
57:29
postures. So for context, let's look at the graph they produce here,
57:32
which shows at the top the absolutely overwhelming majority of space capabilities going to the
57:38
United States, and in particular on the right the lighter green color government or
57:43
military. China again has a similar amount of government or military, but those
57:47
two dwarf absolutely all the other nations, of course, including Russia, which
57:52
is always blame for everything at the moment. The United Kingdom's worth noting,
57:54
has predominantly commercial satellites. But why is this relevant now? It's because that
58:00
man Elon Muski seems to be able to do absolutely everything all the time,
58:05
is of course running his SpaceX projects and in particular the star shield, which
58:13
is described as being available or designed for consumer and commercial use. But it's
58:19
also designed for government use, with an initial focus on three areas, which
58:22
are Earth observation, communications, and hosted payloads. Well, now, what
58:27
exactly does that mean? Here we go star Shield described as supporting national security,
58:32
but of course star Shield is based on the star Link capability, which,
58:37
ironically, when I took this screenshot, told us that it's currently experienced
58:40
degraded service. But nonetheless it has high speed Internet around the world, or
58:45
at least not quite. And when we consider the implications or ramifications of this,
58:51
and in effect, the privatization of war, this here is starlink,
58:55
and I've titled this enabling the right kind of war, because of course starlink
59:00
is not made available to either Russia, China, Belarus, Afghanistan, North
59:05
Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Syria, or Iran. So we're presented with
59:12
a situation in which we see this as described by the host Commons, militarization
59:16
of space, but certainly not a level playing field, and indeed one in
59:21
which even the United Nations is beginning to meddle and exhibit a significant amount of
59:25
partisanship. So, to pardon the terrible pun, we will be watching this
59:30
space. Thank you for that. Now we're coming close to the end of
59:37
today's news. But Mark, just take us through the Other Builderberg. I
59:45
can be brief. There's no reason to be too wendy. Here. The
59:49
Other Builderberg always takes place in Idaho at Sun Valley Resort, a stunningly pash
59:55
resort in southern central Idaho. And here from Fortune we have a headline inside
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the yearly summer camp for billionaires for Silicon Valley execs and media bigwigs, hosted
1:00:07
by one of Wall Street's most exclusive and I might say elusive firms. Going
1:00:13
on from there, very briefly, what we know about the ultra private Sun
1:00:19
Valley Conference, host the twenty twenty three all we have information on is last
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year. We don't have twenty twenty four yet. The twenty twenty three Allen
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and Company Sun Valley Conference, dubbed the annual Summer Camp for Billionaires, kicked
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off in the mountain resort of Sun Valley, Idaho, in exactly two weeks
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ahead of when this was written. So basically, it'll take place in mid
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July in Idaho, and I'll have more on it later. Only a handful
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of photographers are allowed to attend. The media cannot be there except I'll mention
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now we'll skip this slide about the history of Allen and Company. We'll come
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back to that later. But they do have offices in New York City and
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London. I'll mention that. And Allen and Company is one of the most
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secretive financial firms I've come across, and they're the organizers of this conference.
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The important slide is the next one, and then we can wind up and
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the one after that. I'm sorry this one here. The firm Allen and
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Company is behind a number of significant deals, and these deals, according to
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The Observer, were largely either seated or started or consummated at these annual conferences,
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which have been going on since about nineteen eighty two or so in Idaho,
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Disney's merger with ABC in nineteen ninety six, Google's initial public offering in
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four the eighteen billion dollar merger between Activision and by Bendi Games twenty eleven,
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Twitter's IPO twenty thirteen, Jeff bezos purchase of The Washington Post, which is
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basically the CIA's owned newspaper tied to Bildeberg's founding. I might add twenty thirteen,
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and Facebook's nineteen billion dollar purchase of What's appened twenty fourteen. And I'll
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conclude, guys by noting that NYA Tighter the Swedish publication that earlier in this
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broadcast I talked about breaking the fact that Bilderberg's evidently going to MEETIA in Spain
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this year in Madrid. They also had another report that said the Sun Valley
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conference actually involves intelligence officials and news and entertainment moguls and that they supposedly plot
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out how the news will actually be carried out, how the news will be
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composed in conjunction with the government. Now that's a bit out there, maybe
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in some people's eyes, but that's what NYA Tider was claiming. At the
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very least, media is much more of a focus at this Builderberg than the
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other Buildeberg. This one in Idaho is mostly media and big tech. The
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one in this has been meeting since nineteen fifty four. Of the original Buildeberg
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is of course much broader, with treasury officials and NATO and Royalty and things
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like that. So there'll be much more of this between now and mid July,
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of course, But the other Builderberg has emerged and who knew? Right?
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Who knew? Mark? Thank you very much, indeed for that,
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And I'll just say to our audience here we are asking questions about what these
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immensely powerful global corporations are up to, what they're doing in secret meetings behind
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closed doors. Utterly outrageous that when we do this we should have organizations like
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the Anti Semitism Policy Trust accusing us and many other good people of being conspiracy
1:03:37
theorists. It's truly outrageous. Will end's there, big thank you to our
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audience for joining us. Diane, I can still see you on screen.
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Are you able to join us for extra? I'd be delighted to you.
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Brian, thank you. Okay, that's really good. So we will have
1:03:52
Diane, Rasmus and mcaddy with us for extra as well. We can discuss
1:03:58
a little bit of the for Nehi ladies, but for our monthly subscribers please
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join us in a few minutes for UK column Extra. That's it for today.
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Thank you for joining me, Charles at all. Just to clarify the
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timings for the symposium, thank you. Sunday we'll be from six o'clock to
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eight o'clock British summer time. Yes we said as if it was at UK
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time, so in fact, it's six to eight in UK time. Thank
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you for the reminder. We'll end there. Bye bye, bye bye