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Coucy's in His Bluesky Villain Era · I Think Less of You Podcast

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warning me that you were look horrible and you look fine once
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again so i don't no i
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SPEAKER_02: do i'm not wearing makeup
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SPEAKER_00: I am literally enfeebled right now.
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SPEAKER_00: So I have been for several days.
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SPEAKER_02: You are.
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SPEAKER_02: Why don't you say what happened?
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SPEAKER_00: I just was, I went to the grocery store.
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SPEAKER_00: Where I live doesn't get snow much.
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SPEAKER_00: And we got a lot of snow.
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SPEAKER_00: So the grocery store had.
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SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_02: What is a lot of snow?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know it's a lot for them.
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SPEAKER_02: But you and I are both.
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SPEAKER_00: It's seven inches of snow.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: That's like a decent amount.
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SPEAKER_00: Over one night.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, anyway.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Also, it's not that special Colorado snow that's perfect for skiing.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: It was a heavy, dense, wet snow.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So there are clearly no private plow.
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SPEAKER_00: In the Northeast, there's a lot of people who...
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you know in the winter they they have they make extra money but
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they have a plow
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and they hook it up for their truck and they go plow places
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they don't really have
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that here there's been there's a couple municipal plows i think
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that's it um so uh
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the parking lot was completely covered in like compacted snow
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that had turned into
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that really thick kind of uneven snow ice and i just i was
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walking with my
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SPEAKER_00: groceries back to my car and just straight up did a
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plant onto my side like onto my side uh it hurt massively and i
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have been largely i
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i'm actually doing okay right now but my my poor my poor side
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like i've just been
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plus i'm recovering i was saying saying where i'm recovering
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from a cold so and
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every time i cough or sneeze it hurt massively because uh my
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muscles would tend it
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SPEAKER_00: was just an unpleasant experience zero ten do not recommend
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SPEAKER_02: Heating pad.
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SPEAKER_02: For the cough?
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SPEAKER_00: I use an ice pad.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: For like the cough pains and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: Remember,
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I was the one that was infirmed like a week or two ago and I
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had to go get a chest
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SPEAKER_02: x-ray because it hurt bad to cough because I bruised my ribs coughing.
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SPEAKER_02: I get the pain that you're in.
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SPEAKER_00: I am extraordinarily happy.
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It was fairly early in the morning and it had snowed and people
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around here don't
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SPEAKER_00: like to go out in the snow.
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And the one thing I am happy about is that I didn't have any
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like,
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you know,
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SPEAKER_00: 20-year-old guy come running up and be like, hey, pops, you okay?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't need that.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't need that at this stage of my life.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't need the,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: younger guy coming up and be like,
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SPEAKER_00: oh,
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SPEAKER_00: let me help you up and get you to your car.
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I fall a lot,
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and I have fallen like that somewhat recently,
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although I was not as bad hurt.
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SPEAKER_02: And I have had people that are like, oh, are you okay?
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, just point and laugh.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, it would actually make me feel better.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 100%.
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SPEAKER_02: Making a big deal out of it just makes me feel like the biggest tosser.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, please just laugh.
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SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
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SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But you were, like, actually very injured in that.
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Well,
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I think I landed,
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like,
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right on the,
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like,
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right on the jointure of my ribs.
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SPEAKER_00: So, which is, it didn't break anything.
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SPEAKER_00: It was just really, really, really hurt and bruised.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't know that it didn't break anything?
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I think I wouldn't be feeling as well a few days out as I am if
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I had a broken rib,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say.
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SPEAKER_00: Fair.
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SPEAKER_02: Fair.
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SPEAKER_00: My wife checked me for concussion.
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SPEAKER_00: I was not concussed.
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SPEAKER_00: So that was good.
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SPEAKER_00: I told her I did.
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SPEAKER_00: My head didn't hit.
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But I was spending a lot of time just lying on the couch trying
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not to move.
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SPEAKER_00: And so,
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SPEAKER_00: therefore,
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SPEAKER_00: I kept falling asleep because,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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if you're just lying on the couch trying not to move watching a
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marathon cheers on
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SPEAKER_00: the TV,
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SPEAKER_00: that's going to happen.
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SPEAKER_00: So she was like, I got to check it because you keep falling asleep.
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SPEAKER_00: No, it's just, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Just in pain.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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And if I lie down,
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if I lie down without anything to really do,
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I'm going to fall asleep.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what happens.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the great things is falling asleep easily.
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You were texting me about this and we're like mid-text
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conversation and I hear this
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SPEAKER_02: loud thud,
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SPEAKER_02: thud,
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SPEAKER_02: thud.
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SPEAKER_02: My husband slipped and fell down the stairs.
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SPEAKER_02: So I don't know what's in the water with all of you men lately, but.
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SPEAKER_00: We're just all getting older.
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SPEAKER_00: We're all getting into our middle ages.
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SPEAKER_02: Luke usually trips up the stairs.
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SPEAKER_02: We have horrible stairs in our house.
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SPEAKER_02: The house that we live in, his grandpa built in the 70s by hand.
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SPEAKER_02: And nothing is to code.
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SPEAKER_02: And everything is very dangerous.
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SPEAKER_02: And his grandpa was a much smaller...
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SPEAKER_02: He just was a tinier individual.
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SPEAKER_02: A slight man.
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Yeah,
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he was...
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I don't want to say slight,
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but yeah,
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compared to my husband,
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he was.
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SPEAKER_02: And he just didn't make stairs for people with big feet.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: But Luke usually trips going up the stairs in our basement.
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SPEAKER_02: This one, he slipped.
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SPEAKER_02: We have this...
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SPEAKER_02: So we don't technically own the house.
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SPEAKER_02: We live with my—I have the world's weirdest living situation.
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SPEAKER_02: So we can't replace the carpet,
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SPEAKER_02: but we have this horrible,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: green shag carpeting from the 70s on the stairs,
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SPEAKER_02: which does— That's great.
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SPEAKER_00: Never get rid of it.
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We have to because it is an absolute death trap and everyone
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goes flying.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm the only person in my family who hasn't fallen down the stairs.
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Like someday someone's going to go through the beautiful
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railing that his grandpa put in.
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What you need to do,
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you need to source more of that carpet and put it in your
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bathroom.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the way to live.
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And make sure you have the matching cover on the toilet that
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matches the green shag carpeting.
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SPEAKER_02: We actually have to gut our bathroom because I think we have mold.
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SPEAKER_00: Unfortunate.
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SPEAKER_02: That is neither here nor there.
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SPEAKER_02: Other than falling, how else have you been doing?
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SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: You're living in your Blue Sky Villains era?
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SPEAKER_00: I was not a Blue Sky Villain.
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SPEAKER_00: I was kindly telling Will Stancil...
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SPEAKER_00: The Minnesota freedom fighter who is being assaulted by Antifa,
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SPEAKER_00: despite being a theoretical ally to them,
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SPEAKER_00: they're coming up with also being mean to him.
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SPEAKER_00: They're punching him on the street.
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They're coming up with all sorts of nasty,
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nasty accusations of making it.
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SPEAKER_00: I just very politely, I went and I said, well, come back to Twitter.
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SPEAKER_00: We love you.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll protect you.
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SPEAKER_00: You have friends.
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SPEAKER_02: Cousy Moonlight is a blue sky villain.
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SPEAKER_00: I worry that he's feeling isolated.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't want that.
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SPEAKER_02: You got banned from blue sky.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I got banned from blue sky.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it was that post.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I'm sure it wasn't.
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SPEAKER_02: I guarantee it wasn't.
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SPEAKER_00: I did two posts.
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SPEAKER_00: I did that.
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And some guy quote tweeted me and said,
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yes,
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we'll go back to hanging out with the Nazis.
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SPEAKER_00: And I responded to him just to calm down.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sure that that's.
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Which apparently neither of these seem like,
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you know,
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suspendable offenses to me.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the first time I have used my Blue Sky account.
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SPEAKER_00: I log on to it sometimes to see what's going on.
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SPEAKER_00: The first time I have actually sent something on Blue Sky in months.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, nobody uses Blue Sky.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a dying app.
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SPEAKER_00: For a while,
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SPEAKER_00: what I did with Blue Sky,
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SPEAKER_00: so I've had Blue Sky for years because someone,
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SPEAKER_00: I think I got it when you had to have an invite,
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SPEAKER_00: and somebody offered me an invite,
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SPEAKER_00: and I was like,
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SPEAKER_00: sure.
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SPEAKER_00: So I took it just to lock down my at from Twitter,
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SPEAKER_00: just so I was like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: there will be no imitators.
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SPEAKER_02: I always do that.
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SPEAKER_02: Always.
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SPEAKER_00: But then I just,
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SPEAKER_00: for a while I was trying to do a bit there where I was trying to,
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SPEAKER_00: where I was trying to get along too well.
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SPEAKER_00: So I kept like,
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I kept posting stuff that I thought was like really stupid and
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basic that they'd
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SPEAKER_00: like.
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Like,
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I think I was posting Kathy cartoons and saying,
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it's just,
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this is me.
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SPEAKER_02: You're such a troll.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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i love that your impersonation of a left-wing feminist is just
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posting kathy kathy
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kathy dude they love kathy i assume they used to no they've
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never loved kathy no i
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SPEAKER_00: used to be a thing they all loved kathy you know that
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SPEAKER_02: That is your beloved impression of them.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know that they are out there like, oh, Kathy.
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SPEAKER_02: She really nailed it today, that Kathy.
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SPEAKER_00: I need my coffee.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: they're out there drinking out of their giant wine,
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SPEAKER_00: novelty wine glasses and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, I'm over here mainlining Celsius.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm eating jalapenos out of the jar because I'm insane.
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SPEAKER_00: I also made a – Blue Sky,
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SPEAKER_00: they have a thing called starter kits,
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SPEAKER_00: which are – the Blue Sky starter kit.
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SPEAKER_00: They're actually,
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SPEAKER_00: I think,
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SPEAKER_00: trying to make them for Twitter,
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SPEAKER_00: and I think it's stupid,
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SPEAKER_00: and they shouldn't.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, it's basically a, follow these people thing.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're,
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SPEAKER_00: if you're interested in,
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SPEAKER_00: in these,
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SPEAKER_00: this topic,
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SPEAKER_00: here's the group of things that I follow.
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SPEAKER_00: So for a while,
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SPEAKER_00: everyone,
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everyone at Blue Sky was talking about their starter kits and I
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made this little
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SPEAKER_00: picture that was,
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SPEAKER_00: uh,
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SPEAKER_00: what was it?
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Uh,
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a thing of Haagen-Dazs,
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a box of,
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box of,
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uh,
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Rosé Franzia,
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a bottle of Xanax and a cat.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought you made that for Instagram.
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_00: I repurposed that a few times.
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SPEAKER_00: I made that for Blue Sky,
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SPEAKER_00: and I posted it just saying,
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SPEAKER_00: this is the only Blue Sky starter kit I need.
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SPEAKER_00: How about you girls?
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SPEAKER_02: It's a shock you got banned there.
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SPEAKER_02: I really have no idea why.
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SPEAKER_00: It was funny.
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SPEAKER_00: I especially like the box rosé Franzia.
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SPEAKER_00: That was a nice touch.
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SPEAKER_02: Blue Sky is just...
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SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to say this in a way that doesn't sound awful,
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SPEAKER_02: but it's just for kind of feminine men.
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SPEAKER_02: It's their version of threads.
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SPEAKER_02: So most of the women that are out there and visible,
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SPEAKER_02: most of the loud,
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SPEAKER_02: annoying women,
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SPEAKER_02: all of the awfuls are on threads.
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SPEAKER_00: Because they're on threads on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_00: Because Instagram automatically made you a threads account.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this was the brilliant synergy of Facebook.
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They gave their weirdos these like other divergent places
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within the Facebook
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SPEAKER_00: ecosystem they could go off to,
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SPEAKER_00: like threads and Insta.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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Like when you join threads,
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it just auto joins you to anyone you're following on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I never use threads and I have like 10,000 followers.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't, I think I've posted on it.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I posted.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, nevermind.
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SPEAKER_02: Some of it is because I have my Instagram story set to auto post there.
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SPEAKER_02: So it does look like I'm posting there, but I'm not.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just auto posting for my Instagram feed.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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I suppose it makes some sense because I was playing around with
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Instagram the other
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SPEAKER_00: day trying to figure out how to use it.
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SPEAKER_00: And I find you just can't do just text.
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You have to do pictures of text if you want to do because it's
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only pictures on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, on Instagram, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I suppose from a synergistic standpoint,
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SPEAKER_00: it does make sense to have a wordy counterpart to the just pictures.
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: it'd be awesome if we could go back to Instagram showing just pictures,
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SPEAKER_02: because right now it's just all these horrible,
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SPEAKER_02: stupid skits and reels.
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Although I do always send you that one guy's Instagram reels
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that travel around
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SPEAKER_02: Eastern Europe guy.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: You used to send me things from that Subway guy, too, I think.
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SPEAKER_00: The Subway interviewing guy.
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SPEAKER_00: I hate him.
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SPEAKER_02: Some of his guests are really funny, but yeah.
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He did make a point to take off on Friday to say that he was
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protesting as well.
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SPEAKER_00: I love how small a cultural blip that had.
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SPEAKER_00: They were all...
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SPEAKER_00: In the weird lefty sphere,
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they were all talking themselves up that they were going to
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make this massive
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SPEAKER_00: impact by not shopping,
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SPEAKER_00: not doing anything on Friday.
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SPEAKER_00: It was going to be like the national general strike.
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SPEAKER_00: You didn't hear anything about it.
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SPEAKER_00: It made no impact.
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SPEAKER_02: I got so many emails from restaurants that I love.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, living in Colorado, I can tell you what their political bent is.
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SPEAKER_02: And so many emails that were like,
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SPEAKER_02: we can't afford or our employees can't afford to strike today.
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SPEAKER_02: And I wanted to be like, oh, how are you doing?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm paying them a living wage.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You fascists, come on, let your employees strike.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't make any money today.
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But they had to send their email saying F ICE and F Trump
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supporters and F this and F that.
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SPEAKER_02: And if I had any backbone,
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SPEAKER_02: I would say that I wouldn't continue to frequent their establishments.
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SPEAKER_02: But above all else, I...
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SPEAKER_02: I'm kind of a fatter.
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SPEAKER_00: Conservatives tend to be forced to just to roll with it.
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That was why I think the Miller or the Bud Light backlash thing
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was such a big
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story because it is really hard to motivate conservatives who
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spend much of their
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SPEAKER_00: lives,
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assuming that what the political stances of whatever they're
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buying or watching is
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SPEAKER_00: of the people who make it don't align with their own.
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It is very hard to motivate them enough to actually look at one
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product and be
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: all right,
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SPEAKER_00: you've gone too far.
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So that was why,
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and I don't,
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that was kind of a lightning in the bottle moment.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, you know, Budweiser is desperately trying to beat back from that.
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SPEAKER_00: Have you seen their Super Bowl ad?
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SPEAKER_02: I haven't.
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They have the most absurdly patriotic Super Bowl ad you could
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possibly imagine.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, Budweiser always did.
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SPEAKER_02: It was Bud Light that went off.
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SPEAKER_02: It's true.
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SPEAKER_02: And they are run differently from a corporate marketing standpoint.
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SPEAKER_02: I've worked with Budweiser.
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SPEAKER_02: I have not worked with Bud Light.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't drink either.
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SPEAKER_02: I am a Coors girl.
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SPEAKER_02: I like my banquet.
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SPEAKER_00: I will drink Yingling out of Pennsylvania Pride if I'm drinking a beer.
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SPEAKER_02: Yingling's great.
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SPEAKER_02: I like Yingling.
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SPEAKER_00: They have that there now?
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I don't know if we do or not,
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but you always forget that I lived in a minute later.
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SPEAKER_00: You lived in Baltimore.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm aware.
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SPEAKER_00: I wasn't sure.
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They've been migrating out west,
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so I didn't know if they had it out there now.
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SPEAKER_02: I think that I'm pretty sure we do.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty, pretty sure we do.
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SPEAKER_02: We don't have Natty Bo.
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SPEAKER_02: I like Natty Bo.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that is.
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SPEAKER_02: Natural Bohemian.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a Baltimore beer.
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SPEAKER_00: The only Natty I know is Natty Ice, and that stuff's terrible.
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SPEAKER_02: I used to drink the black box of death in college all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: That or Natty Ice, and there is Natty Light.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep, horrible, horrible.
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We'd go through,
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I'd watch out cold and drink a box of Natty Ice of my best
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friend.
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SPEAKER_00: Somehow managed to be inferior to PBR, which is quite an accomplishment.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, this is where we fight.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, PBR is terrible.
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SPEAKER_02: PBR is like my favorite beer on earth.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a horrible, horrible beer.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's not.
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The only thing that's horrible about it is the fact that they
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moved it out of the
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SPEAKER_02: Pabst Castle and it's now made in Los Angeles.
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SPEAKER_02: I do take umbrage with that.
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SPEAKER_02: Outside of that, PBR, great beer.
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SPEAKER_00: They make it in Los Angeles?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: The city in California?
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SPEAKER_00: They make a beer there?
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SPEAKER_02: The city of my birth, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: I did not know that.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't think of things actually being manufactured in L.A.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stuff is manufactured in L.A.
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SPEAKER_00: It makes sense because making beer is a very water-intensive process.
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SPEAKER_00: So it makes sense that you'd make it in Los Angeles,
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SPEAKER_00: which famously is overrun with lots and lots of natural water reserves.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, not in Milwaukee, but, you know.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: But by the Great Lakes, the largest reserves of natural water on Earth.
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SPEAKER_02: The Pabst Castle is still there, but it's all made in Los Angeles.
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SPEAKER_02: But if you drink Coors, most of it is still made.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, what isn't made in Canada is made in Golden, Colorado.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: The banquet beer.
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SPEAKER_02: I love banquet beer.
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SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
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SPEAKER_00: As you know, I rarely drink.
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I shocked everyone the other day because I posted a picture of
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some port that I bought.
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SPEAKER_02: I even texted you.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, you're drinking.
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SPEAKER_00: What is this?
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SPEAKER_00: I sometimes like a little bit of port in the evening.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: It's nice.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, you're not anti-drinking.
17:26
SPEAKER_02: You just don't drink a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't add to your life.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not.
17:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I've told you before.
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I've had people assume that I'm a recovering alcoholic because
17:35
I'll reference like,
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SPEAKER_00: well,
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SPEAKER_00: I don't really drink anymore.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: I just don't get anything especially out of it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's an unnecessary expense for something.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: I always use alcohol as a social lubricant,
17:48
SPEAKER_00: and I rarely socialize now because I'm a big old hermit.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: So I don't need it.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm married now.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: I am like, you know, in a nice, nice settled life.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: I got my,
17:59
SPEAKER_00: got my nice,
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SPEAKER_00: my wall of movies I can watch and my,
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SPEAKER_00: all my Netflix subscriptions and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't, I don't need booze.
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My husband and I drink kind of a lot,
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but I will say we don't,
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I mean,
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we do get
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tipsy sometimes but that is not necessarily the point of it we
18:19
just like the taste
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of different alcohols this may surprise you to know uh because
18:27
it's so unlike me
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but i don't like feeling like i'm out of control of my i don't
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have 100 control of
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my brain and that i might slip up and say something that would
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that would be
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SPEAKER_00: difficult to walk back later
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doesn't surprise me even a tiny bit i do not have the same
18:45
self-control i i don't
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mind feeling like well yeah i've noticed that i've actually
18:53
noticed that i like to
18:54
take a break from my brain sometimes it's a little weird in
18:58
there i gotta get out
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all right let me see i i'm now opening up your uh your your
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list here we got yeah
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SPEAKER_00: we already covered that
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SPEAKER_00: Me being a blue sky villain.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of not using all of your brains,
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the Washington Post today laid off a third of their staff who
19:22
weren't similarly
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SPEAKER_00: clearly not using their brains.
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I just want to point out that we always make fun of me for
19:28
having the clunky
19:29
SPEAKER_02: transitions,
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SPEAKER_02: but that was an all-timer.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that was a purposely bad transition for comedic effect.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: You just wanted me to feel better about myself.
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SPEAKER_00: It's different when I do it because when I do it, it's a meta joke.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: All right.
19:45
SPEAKER_02: Good.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: Glad to know that.
19:46
But yeah,
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the Washington Post laid off a third of their staff,
19:50
which is enormous.
19:51
Including,
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I think,
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most of their foreign correspondents,
19:54
as far as I can tell.
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I don't know if you've been looking on the...
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Yeah,
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the entire Middle East desk is gone.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Which,
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SPEAKER_02: all I have to say is,
20:01
SPEAKER_02: like,
20:03
SPEAKER_02: where were you guys...
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SPEAKER_02: If your coverage was as poor as it was after October 7th,
20:10
SPEAKER_02: this is a long time coming.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean...
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SPEAKER_00: Most journalists in the... I don't want to go on too much of a limb.
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SPEAKER_00: Most journalists in the Middle East have been...
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SPEAKER_00: Aiding and abetting Hamas terrorists to one degree or another.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: Literally shared a building in Gaza with Hamas.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: With AP.
20:39
And we're taking anything that was coming out of the AP that
20:43
was sharing a building
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SPEAKER_02: with Hamas as fact and never fact checking anything.
20:49
SPEAKER_02: No one ever talked about all of.
20:51
the deaths like yes there's a lot of deaths in gaza i don't
20:56
love that also nobody
20:58
knows the number because they couldn't do their freaking jobs
21:00
forever so now the
21:03
argument in their favor in the favor of what the of them doing
21:07
this is that
21:09
SPEAKER_00: It is not your job as a reporter,
21:12
SPEAKER_00: and this is the argument Don Lemon is making in Minnesota as well.
21:16
It is not your job as a reporter to make value judgments
21:20
between one side or the other.
21:21
It is your job to report the news and to cultivate sources,
21:27
wherever those sources may be.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: However,
21:31
SPEAKER_00: far too often,
21:32
SPEAKER_00: both in the Middle East and in Milwaukee and in most other areas of life,
21:38
SPEAKER_00: In Colorado,
21:40
SPEAKER_00: the only sources they're interested in cultivating,
21:43
SPEAKER_00: giving what they consider to be a fair shake to,
21:45
SPEAKER_00: are the left sources.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:50
So that's—on the one—if you could look at it and you could say
21:56
in the Middle East,
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for instance—
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SPEAKER_00: Well,
21:59
SPEAKER_00: you know,
21:59
SPEAKER_00: sure,
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SPEAKER_00: they're reporting,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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there is unbiasedly reporting or unquestioningly reporting
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things that they're
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SPEAKER_00: getting out of Hamas.
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But they're also unquestioningly reporting things that come to
22:11
them out of Jerusalem,
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too.
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SPEAKER_00: So,
22:13
SPEAKER_00: you know,
22:13
SPEAKER_00: they're just presenting what both sides are saying,
22:17
SPEAKER_00: letting us decide which one we think is more credible.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: At that point, I would say that that's your job.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's the definition of journalism.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: If there's an acknowledgement that this is a fraught situation,
22:33
SPEAKER_00: it is probably above our pay grades to see through the fog of war,
22:37
SPEAKER_00: so we just present you with all the facts,
22:40
SPEAKER_00: all the facts as we were given them by the people on the ground,
22:43
SPEAKER_00: that's fine.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: That isn't what they're doing.
22:45
So I have very little sympathy for anyone on the Middle East
22:48
desk at the Washington Post.
22:49
Honestly,
22:50
I think the Washington Post,
22:52
I don't know what they're going to look like after this.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: I think that they're an internal American political newspaper.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: They are not...
23:06
SPEAKER_00: For a long time,
23:06
SPEAKER_00: they have been like,
23:07
SPEAKER_00: you know,
23:07
SPEAKER_00: a world,
23:08
SPEAKER_00: you know,
23:08
SPEAKER_00: we cover the world kind of news.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, that isn't their really bailiwick.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Their bailiwick is we cover D.C.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: It's the cool kids table in Hollywood or Hollywood in D.C.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: press now.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's all it is.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: In Hollywood for ugly people.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
23:22
SPEAKER_02: Hollywood for ugly people.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: That is the joke about politics.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: As someone who worked in politics for a long time, I...
23:30
SPEAKER_02: Felt and lived that joke.
23:32
Thank you.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: No,
23:35
I just think we're going to see a lot of their staff exit and
23:38
head to Substack,
23:39
SPEAKER_02: as we have seen with all of these firings.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: Substack is becoming more and more liberal.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: If you go through the top 50,
23:47
there was a post that Chris Rufo put up the other day that I'll
23:51
link in this.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to make a note to do that.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: That all of the top 50...
23:59
SPEAKER_02: Out of Substack writers,
24:01
it was like him and I think there was one other non-liberal
24:05
writer and the rest is
24:07
SPEAKER_02: all overwhelmingly,
24:08
SPEAKER_02: overwhelmingly super,
24:10
SPEAKER_02: super liberal.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: All Substack promotes are liberal writers.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: That's just...
24:15
SPEAKER_02: They are now wading into politics.
24:18
SPEAKER_02: So when Substack first came out,
24:20
I actually did some meetings with them because they were trying
24:22
to get me to
24:23
SPEAKER_02: migrate my blog over.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: I was like,
24:24
SPEAKER_02: that's great,
24:25
but I make way more money having a standalone website instead
24:29
of a submodel.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: But I met with a lot of their staff since then.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: A lot of their staff has actually left.
24:36
And now there is new staff and the new staff has made no issue
24:42
about carrying water for libs.
24:44
They were out in front talking about how Don Lemon's arrest was
24:49
a horrible First
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SPEAKER_02: Amendment violation.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, but we're all using this platform.
24:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: I feel like it isn't a wildly difficult model to replicate.
25:02
Substack reminds me a lot of LiveJournal,
25:04
honestly,
25:05
from back in the day.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: It's a new version of that.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: Twitter is trying, and actually... Yeah, the Twitter articles suck.
25:15
SPEAKER_02: Twitter articles suck.
25:16
And also,
25:17
I posted the article that was a very,
25:20
very personal reflection on...
25:24
SPEAKER_02: you know, Catholic miracles and anti-abortion.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: I didn't want that on Twitter.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: I didn't want like random.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: I realize I put it on the internet so anyone could see it.
25:31
But if I put something on a Substack where I have less followers
25:35
or more direct
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followers that know me and want to read something personal from
25:39
me versus on
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SPEAKER_02: Twitter where it'll get shared by everyone and,
25:43
SPEAKER_02: you know,
25:43
Yeah,
25:44
I just I like having very separate spaces and I don't like I
25:49
hate Twitter articles.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: They're clunky.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: They don't always work.
25:53
And Twitter is being overrun with spam bots that are stealing
25:58
your account.
25:59
SPEAKER_02: You can never get your account back.
26:01
If I'm a creator,
26:02
why am I putting something that I could get paid for on another
26:06
platform?
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Granted, we're not getting paid for this yet.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: We probably should work on that a little bit.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: But,
26:13
SPEAKER_02: you know,
26:14
why am I going to put something on Twitter and make sense when
26:19
I could be making
26:20
SPEAKER_02: real money on another platform?
26:22
SPEAKER_02: And their platform has zero support.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: If your account is stolen, just tough luck.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, I do know people who've gotten their accounts back from that.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Now, there's not many, and I don't know.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm not clear how they did it.
26:33
I know a lot of people who have not,
26:35
who have...
26:35
I mean,
26:36
honestly,
26:36
if you are paying for...
26:39
SPEAKER_00: Twitter blue for premium.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: There's no excuse not to have two-factor authentication on your account.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: That would stop this.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: If you're using anything online,
26:49
SPEAKER_02: you should have two-factor authentication on every single thing you have.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: I will say,
26:54
SPEAKER_02: like,
26:54
SPEAKER_02: on meta-verified,
26:56
SPEAKER_02: because I am verified on meta,
26:58
SPEAKER_02: it's a much more intense process to get meta-verified.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Anytime I make any changes to my account,
27:05
SPEAKER_02: that includes changing my Instagram profile picture,
27:08
SPEAKER_02: I have to upload my driver's license and a picture of me next to it.
27:13
SPEAKER_02: I had to give them my passport picture the other day.
27:16
You wouldn't know this,
27:18
but if you are monetized on Twitter,
27:20
you have to do that.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: That's the process.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe that's why I had to do it on Meta because I am monetized there.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
27:29
that's the way to call me out for being a loser and not being
27:33
big enough to be
27:34
SPEAKER_02: monetized on Twitter.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: You're big up.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: You're like having other places.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: I was making a diet joke.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: I.
27:50
Like having a small Twitter account because I can say really
27:54
crazy things and I
27:56
SPEAKER_02: feel like they're not going to get found out as easily.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: I got to be more careful.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm a little too flip on Twitter.
28:05
Most of the habituates of Instagram consider Twitter to be
28:08
like,
28:08
you know,
28:08
the great Satan.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: So they're never going to pop over to see what's going on there.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: They also think of me as the great Satan.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: So it's okay.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: I got so many messages this weekend.
28:22
I keep telling you that you need to start actively cultivating
28:26
the completely
28:29
SPEAKER_00: untrammeled lane of conservative food blogger influencers.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Also, I am in the middle of rewriting my entire website.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: So SEO used to be the more stuff you put in, the better your page did.
28:45
And I kind of went through a weird depressive cycle for the
28:50
last two years and got
28:52
SPEAKER_02: really lazy,
28:53
SPEAKER_02: frankly,
28:53
SPEAKER_02: on my website.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: And now to compete with AI...
28:56
SPEAKER_02: It needs to be shorter.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: It needs to be way more useful than AI.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: And it needs to be a little bit personal.
29:02
So long story short,
29:04
I'm rewriting 2000 recipes and travel guides and things.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: And that is taking up all of my time and energy.
29:13
While there's probably a lane for the conservative influencer
29:17
on Instagram,
29:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm just trying to keep that.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Well,
29:21
SPEAKER_00: you know,
29:21
SPEAKER_00: just just,
29:23
SPEAKER_00: you know,
29:24
put a fold the page a little bit so you can come back to it
29:27
later when you have
29:28
SPEAKER_00: more time.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying I'm not going to.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: I I keep my Instagram.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Basically, I just use stories now.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: I'll occasionally put up posts.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Not a lot of people see them.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: I need to schedule one today just to see how it goes.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: But I don't really use it all that much outside of stories and Facebook.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: My Facebook page is really big.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: I have no, I've never, I haven't visited it for probably four years.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: My assistant does all of that.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: So I do have like,
29:57
there have been some listeners to this podcast that messaged me
30:00
on Facebook and I
30:01
SPEAKER_02: just have to say,
30:02
SPEAKER_02: that doesn't go to me.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: That goes to Catherine.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: So the, um, no, I'm kidding.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand Substack as a social media platform.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: I see people trying to use it.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I'll log in and I'll see people try it.
30:21
And I don't see the point or the value add of Substack as a
30:26
social media platform.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: To me,
30:28
SPEAKER_00: like I said,
30:29
it appears to me like LiveJournal or just a thing where you
30:32
just spill out your
30:33
SPEAKER_00: thing and that's it.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: So some people post quick little hits like social media style,
30:41
SPEAKER_02: but I'll push back on that from my own perspective.
30:44
I like it as a social media platform only in as much as there
30:49
are people whose
30:50
SPEAKER_02: works I really like to see and like to share with friends.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: And I like it for that.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: But I guess I would search them out.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: I'd like, you know, I don't.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: Well,
31:02
SPEAKER_02: now that you follow certain people,
31:04
SPEAKER_02: so like there's quite a few Orthodox priests I follow that I really,
31:08
SPEAKER_02: really love their work.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: And I can't find them on Twitter.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: They're on Twitter, but it never pops up.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: They're smaller accounts.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: They are much smaller accounts because they're not the crazy people.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but had ones that I really can't deal with.
31:23
But,
31:23
you know,
31:23
they're posting really good,
31:25
really thoughtful,
31:26
informative pieces.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: And when you subscribe to one on Substack,
31:30
SPEAKER_02: then you get recommending others that are very,
31:33
SPEAKER_02: very similar.
31:34
SPEAKER_02: And I find it really useful for that.
31:35
If you like to read a lot of articles and a lot of long pieces
31:40
that aren't.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: It's also it's not inflammatory.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: So Twitter,
31:45
anything you're doing is done for an audience is meant to get
31:50
you kind of outraged
31:51
or meant to elicit certain feelings to get you addicted to
31:55
following them.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: I would say on Substack, it's very different.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: It's more like reading an essay book.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, they don't have the same drive to virality.
32:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if it's possible for something to go viral and stuff.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: No, and I really like that.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how their algorithm works.
32:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know that anyone really does.
32:15
I will say it seems to be that if you are really liberal,
32:19
they are sharing you.
32:20
And anything that goes viral seems to have to come from Substack
32:25
sharing it.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: Or...
32:28
SPEAKER_02: big viral things on another site that bring you in.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Again, I'm not using it for the viral function.
32:36
I just like being able to find really cool,
32:39
unique,
32:40
well thought out pieces.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: I have to say from what I've used of it,
32:47
the little word processor they have for making your article is
32:52
actually pretty
32:53
SPEAKER_00: cool.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: It's well done.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: It's well thought out.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: I saw...
32:57
SPEAKER_00: I think he goes by.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: He's someone of a mutual minor.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: I like him.
33:01
He's got Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes as his profile photo,
33:05
which I was enjoying.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Um,
33:07
He posted a while ago a thing talking—I'm pretty sure it was
33:10
him—on Twitter talking
33:12
SPEAKER_00: about that,
33:13
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:14
SPEAKER_00: a couple of years ago,
33:15
the left all hated Substack because most of the people who were
33:19
making money on
33:21
SPEAKER_00: Substack— Yeah,
33:22
SPEAKER_00: they said Substack was like this far-right hellhole.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they said it was a Nazi platform.
33:26
They literally called it a Nazi platform because it was Stephen
33:30
Miller not—
33:31
SPEAKER_02: Not admin Stephen Miller.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: Stephen L. Miller.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Red Steve Stephen Miller.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: They were like, it's a Nazi.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, he's not even a Trumper.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: And now they're like,
33:43
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:44
SPEAKER_00: all running over to Substack,
33:47
SPEAKER_00: which is a delightful bit of irony.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:50
It's because they're really upset that their toy was taken away
33:53
with Twitter,
33:54
SPEAKER_02: and now this can be their toy.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, and Blue Sky sucks, as previously established.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: And Threads also sucks, and Threads sucks in a very different way.
34:04
Threads is a lot—I hate that this is going to sound like I'm
34:07
complimenting Blue
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Sky,
34:09
but Threads is so much more of a shallow place because it's
34:12
mostly large female
34:13
SPEAKER_02: influencers.
34:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: Who owns Substack?
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Do you know?
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Is it a private company?
34:17
SPEAKER_00: It's a publicly traded company.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: What's that?
34:20
SPEAKER_02: It's a private company.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: I think Elon Musk should buy Substack.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: He should.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: This literally just occurred to me.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: It solves all of his problems.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that he can at this point anymore.
34:30
Well,
34:31
I mean,
34:32
he bought Twitter and no one said he could,
34:33
so what the heck do I know?
34:35
SPEAKER_00: He's still got a lot of money to play around with.
34:38
SPEAKER_02: He should.
34:39
However,
34:40
it so annoys me that you can't add links to Substack on Twitter.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: I get why he does it.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: He's trying to play up the articles thing, but it just annoys me.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: They need...
34:53
SPEAKER_00: If they are going to do Twitter articles to try to compete with Substack,
34:56
SPEAKER_00: it needs to be a separate section of Twitter.
34:58
There needs to be a tab that's articles,
35:00
and it takes you to...
35:01
Well,
35:02
there is.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: Sort of.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: In your sidebar, there's, like, articles.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't work the same.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, no, because most of Twitter doesn't work.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: Well, no.
35:13
SPEAKER_02: This is why we're not using it in the first place.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: Also, you need to advertise the hell out of it and get people into it.
35:22
He's got to start paying people and he's got to up the payment
35:26
for,
35:26
I mean,
35:27
candidly.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: So say I was going to use it as a food blogger.
35:31
On my food blog right now,
35:34
I'm in the lowest RPM,
35:35
which is revenues per milieu.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: It's a computation per thousand views.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: Per thousand views, I get about, right now it's 45.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: Normally I'm like 85 to $100 per thousand views.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: Wait a minute.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: The Twitter equation for that,
35:55
SPEAKER_02: if I was to do it on Twitter,
35:57
SPEAKER_02: I would make,
35:59
SPEAKER_02: you know,
35:59
a regular post on my website probably makes anywhere from $500
36:02
to $1,000 throughout
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SPEAKER_02: the month.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: On Twitter, I would make maybe $2.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:11
SPEAKER_02: What's the point in that for me?
36:13
There's all this goofiness that goes on because now for Twitter
36:19
revenue sharing,
36:21
SPEAKER_00: the only views,
36:22
SPEAKER_00: it's not any views anymore,
36:24
SPEAKER_00: it's engagements,
36:25
SPEAKER_00: and it's solely engagements from accounts that are verified now.
36:32
So it's a really small – well,
36:34
this is why you have people – I always tell people this.
36:37
People like the Krasensteins – Krasensteins,
36:40
Richard Hanania is another one.
36:43
They actively try to get right-wing people who are more likely
36:48
to be monitored or
36:50
to pay for premium to come into their replies to yell at them
36:53
because those are the
36:55
SPEAKER_00: surest way to get –
36:59
SPEAKER_00: monetize engagements.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: It does probably need to be a views thing.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: I finally had to block all of their accounts because all of them do the
37:09
follow-unfollow thing where they try to get as many followers
37:12
as possible.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: And it's doing exactly that.
37:16
Both the Krasenstein brothers have followed me numerous times
37:20
and I'll soft block
37:21
SPEAKER_02: to get them to unfollow me.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: But I had to full block them because it was like, enough.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: You've tried like 12 times.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Nothing was lost.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: Nothing of value is lost.
37:29
SPEAKER_02: No, nothing of value is lost.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't care to see their stuff.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: I actually don't mute people often.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: I never mute people.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, anytime I would mute people, they actually show up more in my feed.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, what's happening here?
37:46
SPEAKER_02: So I have to like.
37:47
unfollow or block people to get them from showing in my feed
37:51
but i just these are
37:53
all reasons that i don't want to use twitter articles and why
37:57
something like
37:57
Substack needs to exist but i am getting nervous looking at some
38:01
of substack's moves
38:02
because it's like wait what are we where are we going with this
38:08
yeah no no it's uh
38:10
SPEAKER_00: i've um
38:12
Again,
38:13
I think that it is useful for a place to dump articles that you
38:19
promote elsewhere.
38:19
I don't really understand using it as a place that you promote
38:24
your articles in
38:24
SPEAKER_00: itself,
38:25
SPEAKER_00: like in its own ecosystem.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: But I don't understand.
38:28
There are many things in this world I don't understand because
38:29
I'm a cranky old man.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: Once you get a lot of followers, it actually works really well for that.
38:34
Actually,
38:35
a guest that we should have on sometime who would is my friend
38:40
Mercedes.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: She does very well.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: She does very well on Substack.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: And for her, it is an economic driver.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: So she is paid by subs and that has helped replace.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: She started as a food blogger.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: I've known her for ages and ages.
38:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:00
She kind of stepped back from her food blog and started her
39:03
It's Mercedes channels.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: And that has replaced a lot of that income.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: And she's been able to really grow it well.
39:10
SPEAKER_02: So it would be interesting to talk to her.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: She's also awesome.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: And if you are listening to us, you should follow her on.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: I believe she follows me on Twitter.
39:20
I think I remember discussing her and then I followed her and
39:24
she followed me back.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's great.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: She's really, really nice.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: She follows me on Twitter, so she's certified a good person.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Besides, you see a little approval right there.
39:36
SPEAKER_02: Before we wrap up,
39:37
I want to briefly touch on Spain and how they've lost their
39:41
ever-loving minds.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: Their prime minister has gone full, full commie.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: There are two different issues.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: So, number one, he is...
39:54
SPEAKER_02: And he has said this outright.
39:56
He is approving the citizenship for 500,000 refugees to make
40:03
them full right voting
40:05
SPEAKER_02: Spanish citizens because,
40:07
SPEAKER_02: and I quote,
40:10
SPEAKER_02: he wants to counter...
40:13
SPEAKER_02: The rights influence in Spain.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: He is saying that Spaniards are too right wing.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: So he had to import a new population.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: Wild.
40:25
He is also announcing that he is going to have the strictest
40:31
enforcement of social media roles.
40:33
SPEAKER_02: Some of this is good.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: Like he wants 16 year olds.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: He wants you to have to be 16 to use social media.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: he wants to stop AI theft from creators,
40:43
SPEAKER_02: which creator who's losing some of my business to AI,
40:47
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
40:48
However,
40:48
I think it's all just an excuse to shut down speech completely
40:51
in Spain.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they are making it
40:57
extremely difficult for those of us who have spent some time
41:01
talking about,
41:02
SPEAKER_00: ah,
41:02
SPEAKER_00: stop talking,
41:02
SPEAKER_00: like,
41:03
SPEAKER_00: you know,
41:03
SPEAKER_00: this great replacement thing is just,
41:06
there are all sorts of more plausible reasons for these policy
41:12
moves than the great
41:12
SPEAKER_00: replacement plan.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: And neither of us are great replacement people.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: We're not on that.
41:17
But Spain is actually,
41:20
Spain is actually actively saying we're going to replacement.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: They're making it difficult for us, sensible folk.
41:30
His doesn't have the racial component that the people in
41:35
America like to put that as.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, it implicitly does because he's pulling the people from Africa.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I think that's just who's there.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Who else is he going to?
41:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's nobody else.
41:51
But I don't think it's,
41:52
like,
41:53
a lot of people think it's,
41:54
like,
41:54
an anti-white thing.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't actually think it's that.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: I think it's just, these are the people I can get in.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not some grand plan to erase Whitey.
42:04
SPEAKER_02: It's, hey, these people will vote for me.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: Not to put too much of a point on it, but it is literally will to power.
42:12
SPEAKER_00: It is 100% what it is,
42:15
is this is how I will maintain power and I will do it to
42:20
maintain power because
42:21
SPEAKER_00: only I am good in power and the other people will be bad in power.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: This is actually how fascist states start.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: And they shut down all conversation and critique.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: Like now,
42:34
SPEAKER_02: if you and I say something bad about Spain and we go to Spain,
42:37
SPEAKER_02: guess who can be arrested?
42:39
SPEAKER_02: They want to arrest foreign nationals.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: So the UK stuff is so bad.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: The UK is crazy.
42:44
The UK is let you sent something earlier that I don't know if
42:48
you want to talk
42:49
SPEAKER_02: about,
42:49
SPEAKER_02: but they are not going for foreign nationals in all of their insanity.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: I can go out there and say something wild and
42:58
And I am not going to be the person at risk because I am not a
43:01
UK citizen.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: I try to keep it a little bit classy.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Spain is saying they're going to.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: They want to arrest Elon Musk for owning Twitter.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, Germany and Spain both have a very, very, very long history of
43:23
of whatever they're doing they do in the most batshit extreme
43:29
way possible these
43:31
are the fascists we've been war like everyone says that we're
43:34
the fascists i'm like
43:36
a mirror please my friends yeah no no that's this is like you
43:39
know that's what what
43:40
you were describing in spain sounds like they want to implement
43:45
an inquisition of
43:47
SPEAKER_00: sorts
43:48
SPEAKER_00: I wonder if they're known for that sort of thing.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: This is more or less what they do.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they have that fiery Mediterranean blood that
43:58
SPEAKER_00: Make some creatures of the extreme.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the Germans excuse is.
44:01
The Germans do similar stuff and they don't have fiery
44:03
Mediterranean blood.
44:04
SPEAKER_02: The Germans,
44:05
SPEAKER_02: I will say,
44:06
SPEAKER_02: for a lot of great reasons,
44:08
we have stopped Germany from having national pride because they
44:13
do this little
44:14
SPEAKER_02: thing where when they have too much pride,
44:16
SPEAKER_02: it gets a little out of control.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: Also, they are great proof of
44:21
why you need to have some kind of culture holding your country
44:25
together and you
44:26
SPEAKER_02: need to have some kind of national pride.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: Not the historical German national pride, but like
44:34
SPEAKER_02: Look at America.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: We're all very proud to be American.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: There's a fabric holding us together.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: Germans fabric holding them together is that they hate themselves.
44:44
And I understand some of that,
44:46
but it's like,
44:47
look,
44:48
just because this happened,
44:49
this wasn't you.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: You weren't the Nazis.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: You weren't the person out here doing this.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:55
SPEAKER_02: You need to move beyond this.
44:56
You need to see that there is so much to German history that
45:01
can be accepted.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: There is something to a German identity that doesn't involve becoming an
45:08
SPEAKER_02: anti-Semitic racist a-hole.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: Does it involve being, you know, a fascist or a communist?
45:16
SPEAKER_02: Let's look at other contributions.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: This is what happens when you erase any identity.
45:22
And I get why they did it and also why they need to maybe find
45:28
some good things about Germany.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, I've said it before and I've said it again.
45:33
There are no good things about Germany because Germany as a
45:36
concept is stupid.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: It needs not exist.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: There are good things about the various duchies that made up Germany.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: And it needs to be split back up into its component parts.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: But I think I unironically believe that the world was better.
45:53
And most of them were better off when they were not a unified
45:56
nation because they
45:57
SPEAKER_00: are a unified nation of people who largely hate each other.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: because they have very deep, like, they're the EU in Brits smaller.
46:07
SPEAKER_00: They have deep cultural,
46:09
lengthy historical cultural animosity between the various
46:13
groups that make up
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Germany.
46:15
I think that,
46:16
you know,
46:16
we would be free Bavaria,
46:18
free Saxony,
46:20
free Hamburg.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: Let them go their way.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: And I also think this would be like to be good for Italy, too.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: The entire...
46:29
SPEAKER_00: 19th century unification projects need to be wiped away.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is wiped away.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, can we do Greece after that?
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Because there's some land.
46:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't know we want to go that far back.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: Greece has been a single polity for much longer than Germany and Italy.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: The Greeks also have...
46:56
SPEAKER_02: a lot of their own issues.
46:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't really know you want Greece to go back to a,
47:01
SPEAKER_00: like,
47:01
SPEAKER_00: you know,
47:02
SPEAKER_00: BC city-states squabbling amongst each other next to Turkey.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, I also, I mean, well,
47:09
SPEAKER_02: in, in that scenario, Turkey would be Greece.
47:11
SPEAKER_02: So I'm just saying, make the Hellespont Greece again.
47:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, your lips to God's ears.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, I am genetically an ethnic Prussian and pole.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: So the, um, war with yourself.
47:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:35
SPEAKER_02: The breaking up of Germany is music to my own ears, but,
47:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
47:40
SPEAKER_00: no,
47:40
that's—I don't—I came up with kind of on the fly in a
47:48
conversation earlier,
47:49
SPEAKER_00: a theory that I like,
47:50
SPEAKER_00: and I'm actually right about it.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: I need to research on it,
47:52
SPEAKER_00: but I actually like this theory,
47:54
that the EU—this feeds into his wanting to naturalize or to
48:00
give all these people
48:01
SPEAKER_00: citizenship—
48:03
SPEAKER_00: In Spain,
48:04
SPEAKER_00: the EU,
48:05
SPEAKER_00: I think,
48:06
SPEAKER_00: I do not believe it is necessarily a population replacement thing,
48:12
SPEAKER_00: bringing in all of the refugees.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: However,
48:15
I do believe that there is a some degree of a thought in the EU
48:21
that what you are
48:22
SPEAKER_00: doing is you're bringing in citizens who are beholden to the EU and
48:27
And consider themselves to be residents of the EU and not of
48:31
their constituent country.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: And because a lot of these policies are pushed by the EU,
48:38
I actually increasingly like the idea that a lot of this is
48:42
literally an attempt by
48:44
SPEAKER_00: the EU to consolidate its own power and avoid being just dissolved.
48:49
Actually,
48:49
did you see that the EU itself wants to break into a two-tier
48:56
system?
48:57
SPEAKER_00: No.
48:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:58
SPEAKER_02: So there's like EU and it's like EU2.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: I forget the I think it was like EA.
49:04
SPEAKER_02: I forget.
49:05
SPEAKER_02: I'll find it.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: They are proposing having two different tiers of EU membership.
49:12
And Ireland would be one of the second tier ones with much of
49:16
Eastern Europe,
49:17
which I'm like.
49:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, OK.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: But they wanted to keep Poland.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like,
49:21
SPEAKER_02: yeah,
49:21
because Poland doesn't take any of your horrible policies and
49:25
doesn't accept them.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: So they're the only ones actually doing well.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: Poland's doing great.
49:29
SPEAKER_00: Economically, Poland's doing fantastic.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: Economically, if you saw, France now qualifies under third world status.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: It's depressing.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: It's funny, but it's depressing.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: No, it's really depressing.
49:43
SPEAKER_02: It's really, really depressing.
49:44
We both have talked about wanting to do an East versus West
49:50
thing that I'm actually
49:51
SPEAKER_02: trying to actively get funded for us at the moment,
49:54
SPEAKER_02: which is taking a lot longer than I thought it would.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: But especially because you haven't been there.
50:01
to france um i would love for you to see what it's like but
50:04
then see what it's like
50:06
in so many eastern european countries where life is great it is
50:10
clean it is safe
50:12
they are recovering economically in a way that western europe
50:16
doesn't i'm someone
50:18
who goes to germany very often i have family in germany and
50:21
seeing just in the last
50:22
SPEAKER_02: 10 years how much that country has slid is shocking
50:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, we've discussed before that they are impoverished.
50:32
I mean,
50:32
like,
50:32
you know,
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that relative to America,
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most people in America are not aware.
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SPEAKER_00: Not Germans.
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SPEAKER_02: Not Germans.
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SPEAKER_02: French, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Not Germans.
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SPEAKER_00: Relative to America.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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They're only impoverished because they're paying taxes so that
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Greece cannot work.
50:51
So that Spain,
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like Spain's unemployment rates,
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they're...
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I understand that.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: They're making a lot of money.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
50:57
SPEAKER_00: but they're also not,
50:57
SPEAKER_02: like...
50:58
SPEAKER_00: The individual does not have as much...
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The average individual in Germany does not have as much
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spending power as the
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SPEAKER_00: average individual in America.
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SPEAKER_00: You disagree?
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll look up data on this.
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SPEAKER_02: I know I'm aware.
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SPEAKER_02: But for...
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It's also things in Germany are a lot cheaper because you can
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import things from
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SPEAKER_02: places like France where they can't afford anything.
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SPEAKER_00: Well,
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SPEAKER_00: I suppose,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: that's...
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SPEAKER_02: If I moved to Frankfurt tomorrow,
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SPEAKER_02: I couldn't afford housing,
51:36
SPEAKER_02: but everything else,
51:38
SPEAKER_02: I'd be like,
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SPEAKER_02: this is great.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting a great deal.
51:42
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm the only tourist that goes to Paris and I'm like,
51:45
SPEAKER_02: I could live here and it would be cheaper.
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SPEAKER_02: Even considering housing because I would just live on wine.
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I'd be like,
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my bottle of Chateauneuf to pop is only 12 bucks here versus 65
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in America.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd be living rich.
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You'd be fitting in with the ravered Frenchmen just soused on
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wine all day long.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, if I lived in France, I'd have to be.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I love France, but, like, they don't have air conditioning.
52:16
You can drink your wine and listen to the sonorous sounds of
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the museum from the
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SPEAKER_00: nearest minaret calling people to prayer.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, my gosh.
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SPEAKER_02: I did see today Athens.
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SPEAKER_02: The Greeks are just a mess politically.
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SPEAKER_02: Always have been, always will be.
52:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: They are,
52:37
SPEAKER_02: however,
52:38
going through and going to be shuttering all of the illegal
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mosques in Athens.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: This is a real problem.
52:44
You walk through Athens,
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there's weird pop-up mosques like every few feet.
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SPEAKER_02: They are not only shuttering them,
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SPEAKER_02: they're going to be deporting all of the people who opened them.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's cool.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Rare Greek win.
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SPEAKER_00: I approve.
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SPEAKER_00: I approve this message.
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We all know that I am an honorary Hellenist and have really
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leaned into the fact
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SPEAKER_02: that I love Greece,
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SPEAKER_02: even though I am not even a drop Greek.
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But I do have to say their political system is insane and their
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government is usually awful.
53:23
always has been always will be that was that's what there's a
53:26
reason they basically
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were not they were a non they didn't matter in world war ii
53:32
because they're just
53:32
kind of there they're just like you know the vestigial lumped
53:36
down there there's a
53:38
reason the cia made sure that its man became the head of the
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church so well there
53:45
SPEAKER_00: you go that's
53:47
SPEAKER_00: It's your church.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: You're allowed to say that.
53:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to love that.
53:51
SPEAKER_02: My church doesn't mind saying that.
53:53
SPEAKER_02: They're kind of low-key proud about it.
53:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's fine.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Because they're like, look, we're not the Russians.
53:59
SPEAKER_02: We're aligned with America.
54:01
SPEAKER_02: They like to be aligned with America.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: They like to say that.
54:03
SPEAKER_02: So I'm actually okay with this.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: Nothing wrong with being an American cat's paw.
54:09
SPEAKER_02: No, there's not.
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SPEAKER_02: No notes.
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SPEAKER_02: You're not getting an outrage face on that one.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: I think we're good.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: I think we've hit our points.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:25
SPEAKER_02: We talked coherently and kind of stayed on our list.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:32
I didn't cry out in pain too much for my regrettable injuries,
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so that was good.
54:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, go ice it and feel better.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: All right.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: All right.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Bye.
54:42
SPEAKER_00: Bye.
54:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait, wait, wait.
54:44
SPEAKER_00: What?
54:44
SPEAKER_02: We said bye, and I am stopping us.
54:47
Before we sign off,
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I am going to put a link to the really good piece that you
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published.
54:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes, yes.
54:53
SPEAKER_00: My little thing about Trump the neocon.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: I am going to be your promoter since you suck at self-promotion.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you like it?
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SPEAKER_00: I did.
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SPEAKER_00: You liked it?
55:04
SPEAKER_02: I did.
55:05
SPEAKER_02: I have to admit, I have a very bad ADD, and it is not a short piece.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a great, excellent, well-researched piece.
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SPEAKER_02: It was not short.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't that long.
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SPEAKER_00: On Word, it was like two and a half pages.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just into it.
55:26
SPEAKER_00: Bye.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Now I took the air out of the room.
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SPEAKER_02: Bye.