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NBA Show | October 21, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Fall systems going clear left. Oh baby, we're back and
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  Speaker 1: is very excited Langley and here we are officially back
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  Speaker 1: talking some hoops. Two games late. Obviously, it's always two
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  Speaker 1: exciting times over here. How we doing, Yeah, very excited.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Christmas Day over here.
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  Speaker 2: Like Jordan said, we've been waiting for this for a
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  Speaker 2: long time all year, but the last four months in particular.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, really excited a lot of cool additions to
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  Speaker 2: the to the team over the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 2: with m Belman joining us. Matthew Bellman, I'm sure a
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  Speaker 2: lot of you guys know him, as one of the
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  Speaker 2: had success with, success with and have asked for or so.
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  Speaker 2: Really excited to get him up to speed with the team.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, really excited for this upcoming NBA season. I
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  Speaker 2: want to find the clip from last year doing the
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  Speaker 2: show with DJ on the opening night because I did
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  Speaker 2: call the dark horse Peyton Pritchard sixth Man of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I really have anything to follow
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  Speaker 2: that up with, but that one felt pretty good to
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  Speaker 2: get that one out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, real one of the sharpest guys out there,
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  Speaker 1: many of you know, but he absolutely puts in the work.
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  Speaker 1: You will see a slate plan up NBA slate plan
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  Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, a little behind right now. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: up very shortly after the show, but goes in depth
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  Speaker 1: about a lot of stuff in multiple tiers. You can
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  Speaker 1: we talked about, we do have if you go more
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  Speaker 1: What you need in NBA? Which what do you need?
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  Speaker 1: You need a news source. Underdog on Twitter is the
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  Speaker 1: almost every single lot time too. Obviously not this first
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  Speaker 1: day as much we know the news, but as the
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  Speaker 1: NBA goes on, a million of these guys are questionable,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the questionable pieces impact a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other players impact the slates. Late swap is very
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  Speaker 1: big again in the discord. There's no better spot, no
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  Speaker 1: more important sport to be in the discord than NBA
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  Speaker 1: with just so many moving pieces. Actually, I'll put college
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  Speaker 1: football up there too. Shout out to Bill, to Smarty,
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  Speaker 1: know what's worse. It might be college football. Since you
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  Speaker 1: another story or another time. Ross K, what's going on? Kidlining?
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  Speaker 1: you just broad Slate or just NFL or NFL. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talking about in the NFL mode NBA. If
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  Speaker 1: this is someone's first time playing NBA DFS, how does
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  Speaker 1: it differ from NFL, from MLB, from other sports? Just
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  Speaker 1: answer that question right away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say projections reign supreme and NBA for sure,
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  Speaker 2: minutes matter a lot, so you need to have a
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  Speaker 2: good and accurate projection and minute source, which I would
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  Speaker 2: say that we do.
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  Speaker 1: But if you don't use us, you definitely should you something.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's some people that can just kind of
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  Speaker 2: play off of knowing ball, but NBA is one of
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  Speaker 2: the more projectable sports that you can get accurate projections too,
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  Speaker 2: so it's very important to have that to kick things off.
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  Speaker 2: Correlation not nearly as important an NBA. I would say
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  Speaker 2: on smaller slates like a two game site, you definitely
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  Speaker 2: can correlate more, you know, play into one game being
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  Speaker 2: a blowout the other one being close. But for most
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  Speaker 2: main slate stuff, it's kind of just playing ther you know,
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  Speaker 2: the best plays at each position, and then value is
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  Speaker 2: very important in NBA. You got to find those those
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  Speaker 2: low priced guys that make those stud lineups work. But
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  Speaker 2: I would say the main thing is that just projections
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  Speaker 2: are going to be very, very important for NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I can't echo that enough. Why is that
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  Speaker 1: the case, Well, it's a lot easier to project something
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  Speaker 1: in basketball when the shot clock twenty four seconds, when
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  Speaker 1: you're going up and down the court. You know how
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  Speaker 1: often these guys usually touch the ball. Baseball, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: get four at bats, it's really hard sport. You succeed
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  Speaker 1: three out of time times, you're a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 1: Very volatile in projections that way. Football it's more accurate
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  Speaker 1: than baseball, but definitely less than MBA in the sense
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  Speaker 1: of the other team could have a nine minute drive
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  Speaker 1: and you're sitting on the sideline. More touchdowns mean a
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  Speaker 1: lot more in sports like NFL, so more variants in that.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball it's an up and down game, very easy to
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  Speaker 1: project the minutes, very easy to project usage. This guy's off,
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  Speaker 1: What does that do to this, et cetera. So projections
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  Speaker 1: mean a ton in a lot of sports, but NBA
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  Speaker 1: for sure, yep. And that I think just goes along
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  Speaker 1: with projections being a lot more accurate and knowing that
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  Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean, you look at projection that leads
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  Speaker 1: to ownership in all sports. But it's a lot more
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  Speaker 1: variance in the projection in the other sports than basketball,
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  Speaker 1: like talking about two games slates, So this is not
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  Speaker 1: a main slate by any means in the sense of
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  Speaker 1: you don't really need to care as much about like
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  Speaker 1: ownership and stuff two games that you need to care
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  Speaker 1: a little more. But I will say right away, don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's or NFL show down or stuff where you
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  Speaker 1: just let's set my max salary at forty nine to
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  Speaker 1: five and try and get a lot different that way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think like using your salary, and NBA in
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  Speaker 1: almost every slate is definitely the sharp thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Salary is usually pretty good. Draftings does a good job,
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  Speaker 1: the higher priced guys usually project for better. And giving
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  Speaker 1: up a bunch of projection points just to get different
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  Speaker 1: and leaving five hundred isn't usually the way I play NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that for a normal slate, But then
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  Speaker 1: any like different things you do for a two game
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  Speaker 1: slate where it is a little more of a dupe
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  Speaker 1: sport at least than a normal NBA main slate.
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  Speaker 2: I would say upping the correlation, whether that be you know,
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  Speaker 2: through savisim or just kind of handbuilding, is something I
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  Speaker 2: would kind of focus on a little bit more on
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  Speaker 2: two game slates. Like I mentioned at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the first question, was that it you could definitely play
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  Speaker 2: games as being closer and the other one being ana blowout.
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  Speaker 2: I think tonight is I would say a little bit
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  Speaker 2: closer to both games being I would say there's a
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  Speaker 2: better chance of both games being fairly close here. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe something different like you know, getting lower on the
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  Speaker 2: studs and playing more in the mid tier and the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the main rotation guys getting more minutes and
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  Speaker 2: doing more of the heavy lifting would be something to consider.
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  Speaker 2: But for the most part, on two games slates, I
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  Speaker 2: try to pinpoint spots that I can kind of exploit
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  Speaker 2: ownership in terms of a team, you know, having the
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  Speaker 2: chance to blow out, and anytime Okasee is on a
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  Speaker 2: slate like this, there's always a good chance. But I
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  Speaker 2: would say that, you know, tonight's a little bit difference.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Rockets are a little bit undervalued in
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  Speaker 2: the betting market.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I like to hear that right away. We
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  Speaker 1: will segue into this first game again. We go game
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  Speaker 1: by ga game on this show. As always, we have
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  Speaker 1: two games instead of the usual nine, eight, ten, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: So probably a shorter show than usual, but again all
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  Speaker 1: content will be Prio slate plan Cash Report, which I
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  Speaker 1: already have up. Matt has his core op rio and
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  Speaker 1: Ham will get him as well, and shout out again
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  Speaker 1: Little Neck does a phenomenal job. Very help him to have,
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  Speaker 1: very happy to have him on the team. You will
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  Speaker 1: see his Showdown Core Report or showdown slate for the
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  Speaker 1: Monday through Friday featured game. So that will be up
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  Speaker 1: tonight for Lakers Warriors. Good prizes there. Shout out to
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  Speaker 1: our man Little Neck. Of course, projections ownership if the
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  Speaker 1: DraftKings fandel right here as well. All right, let's take
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  Speaker 1: it to the first game. Reo the Rockets and the
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  Speaker 1: Thunder you already mentioned right away. You think Rockets being
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  Speaker 1: disrespected a little in the market. They are six and
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  Speaker 1: a half point underdogs. We have a two twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half total. There is injuries, though not really
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  Speaker 1: Q tags. There isn't Q tags to worry about. But
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  Speaker 1: no Fred van Vlietz, no Dorian Finney Smith on the
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  Speaker 1: Houston side, and no Ja Dubb, no Jalen Williams, no
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  Speaker 1: Isaiah Joe on Okac. I want to throw it to
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  Speaker 1: you just right away. Do you think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Cason Wallace or do you think it's gonna be Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Wiggins starting? Are you confident in that? Obviously we will
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  Speaker 1: get that news before. But that's my first question, and
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, take it from there. Again, we are sharing
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  Speaker 1: the stone. If I zoom out, I don't know. If
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  Speaker 1: it's too hard for people to see, you can let
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  Speaker 1: you know. Would you guys rather this or would you
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  Speaker 1: rather me zoom in one and cut off Fandel a bit?
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  Speaker 1: So when they're let me know that, you take it over.
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  Speaker 1: But who do you think starts casing or Aaron? I
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  Speaker 1: would probably guess that people are gonna say just cut
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  Speaker 1: out FanDuel. They're like the little brother in the DFS industries.
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  Speaker 1: So it's good today. Though it's good today, I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: maxim I mean fifty guaranteed overlay payout fifty. It is
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  Speaker 1: nine to fourteen. But if there was a day to
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  Speaker 1: play over there, I think today is a good one.
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  Speaker 1: I might jump on there as well. I think I
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  Speaker 1: got my account unlocked. Finally, I shouldn't have said that
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  Speaker 1: to save more money from me. I don't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't done fandul NBA, and I don't even remember, well,
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  Speaker 2: probably since like five years ago, and I did like
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  Speaker 2: a random All Star game I think is what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Now I stick out one more day. Sorry, can you
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  Speaker 1: repeat the question that I do? Caason Walls are Wigan?
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  Speaker 1: Who starting for Jalen Williams?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I honestly kind of think it could be Caruso.
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  Speaker 2: They have been running Caruso as the starter in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of think it could be him. But if
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  Speaker 2: it's not him, I would say it's probably case and
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  Speaker 2: then Wiggan's gonna fill in the sixth seventh man role.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that those are the three clear benefactors
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  Speaker 2: and guys that are going to be started or have
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  Speaker 2: the potential to start tonight for Okay, see is what
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing. Yeah, I guess we'll get right into the game.
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  Speaker 2: You already mentioned the injuries for both sides. Obviously no
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  Speaker 2: Fred van Fleet this season. I think at some point
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  Speaker 2: we'll see Reachepherd in the starting lineup and probably having
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  Speaker 2: some massive games. I think it's gonna be more matchup
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  Speaker 2: dependent though, and the Houston Rockets are gonna be running
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  Speaker 2: out that massive starting lineup. I think that their shortest players,
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  Speaker 2: Alman Thompson at six to seven, which is just insane,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they got three guys that are above seven.
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  Speaker 1: Feet, so it's gonna be really interesting to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I think from a matchup perspective, it could be I
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  Speaker 2: could see them getting beat here and kind of switching
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  Speaker 2: things up pretty quickly, just because okay See play so
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  Speaker 2: fast and this game does have a chance to play
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more up and paced than the second
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  Speaker 2: game tonight. Okay See was fifth in fifth and pace
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  Speaker 2: and Houston was eighteenth. I think they're gonna get a
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  Speaker 2: little bit faster though, with Amen in the starting lineup
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  Speaker 2: pretty much from start to finish the season. Yeah, Okaysee
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  Speaker 2: was one of the top transition defense in the league
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  Speaker 2: and Houston was pretty good. But I think that adding
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  Speaker 2: you know, four tall guys like KD. Sengoon, Steven Adams
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  Speaker 2: and even Jabari Smith might hurt them a little bit
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  Speaker 2: defensively getting back in transition. So I could see them
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  Speaker 2: switch things up a little bit. Who that would benefit
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  Speaker 2: I would say probably Tarry Easton and Reachepard the most,
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  Speaker 2: but I would say Tory Easton will be the clearest
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  Speaker 2: guy that they'd want to go to if the triple
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  Speaker 2: big lineup doesn't work that well. But defensively, okay See
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  Speaker 2: should have the upper hand here their first in transition
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  Speaker 2: first and rim defense last season. Schematically, the OKAC thunder
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  Speaker 2: always are kind of a team that will play a
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  Speaker 2: lot of help off defense, which leads to a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more volume for off ball shooters. So guys like
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant should be in the best spot here. He
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit, you know, lower usage in the preseason,
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  Speaker 2: kind of just corner standing a little bit, letting other
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  Speaker 2: guys get involved. But I think that he should be
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  Speaker 2: in a decent spot here regardless. But for Houston, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be at a pretty big disadvantage with their
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  Speaker 2: on ball defense. I would say losing guys are losing
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks. You know, Savich will about him. I obviously
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  Speaker 2: don't love Dylan Brooks, but he is a good defender.
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  Speaker 2: He is a disruptor on defense and just kind of
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  Speaker 2: does a lot of intangibles that are going to be
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  Speaker 2: lost here.
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  Speaker 1: Alma Thompson.
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  Speaker 2: I love him as a talent, but I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if he's really that much better of an unball defender
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  Speaker 2: than Dylan Brooks. And Houston was one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: pick and roll defensive defense in the league last year,
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  Speaker 2: and Shay is going to be able to put up
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  Speaker 2: points there in a pretty big way, I would imagine here,
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  Speaker 2: but from a DFS perspective, a star on the Houston side,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant give me the top priced guy mentioned, I
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  Speaker 2: think that this is a pretty good matchup for him stylistically,
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  Speaker 2: with the off ball defense being a little bit worse
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  Speaker 2: for okay see, but I think early on he might
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  Speaker 2: take a little bit more of a backseat just being
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  Speaker 2: an older guy. Not you know, he's just getting older.
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  Speaker 2: He's played a ton of minutes last season, and he's
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna be one of the guys that just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really do a ton for most of the game from
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  Speaker 2: a DFS perspective fantasy perspective, and then probably takes over
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  Speaker 2: when they need him in like the last six minutes
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  Speaker 2: of the game, because that's kind of what they brought
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  Speaker 2: him in for. They missed that closer that they needed
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  Speaker 2: last year. So I think that he's going to take
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  Speaker 2: over that role, but just a little bit too expensive
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  Speaker 2: in this matchup versus such a good defense, and okay
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  Speaker 2: see that I don't really think I'm going to play
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  Speaker 2: much KD at nine point seven K, even on a
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  Speaker 2: small slate. I do think that Sengoon is going pretty
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  Speaker 2: overlooked here, and the reason being people are going to
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  Speaker 2: be paying down at center going double center builds for sure,
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  Speaker 2: which kind of leaves Sengoon as the odd man out
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  Speaker 2: at nine point two K. But he should be pretty
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  Speaker 2: good here, okay See. The main areas of weakness outside
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  Speaker 2: of their catch and shoot was their offensive rebounding, and
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  Speaker 2: he should have a size advantage or at least a
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  Speaker 2: strength advantage over Chet or hard Sandwich.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be guarding him. But I mean, he.
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  Speaker 2: Looked really good over the summer in some of those
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  Speaker 2: EuroLeague games. He was like putting up crazy numbers, and
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  Speaker 2: he looked really good in the preseason, putting up six
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  Speaker 2: assists per game. With okay See having such a good
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  Speaker 2: transition defense, I think there's gonna be a lot more
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  Speaker 2: half court sets for Houston, and that should just lead
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  Speaker 2: to more offense running through him. So I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that it's without of the realm of possibilities that we
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  Speaker 2: see a trible double right off the bat for Sam
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  Speaker 2: Gun here. We have a seventy minute sample last season
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  Speaker 2: with all the starters gone with fred Van Fleet Gonn
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  Speaker 2: he was first on the team in usage. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty average number twenty five percent, but first an
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  Speaker 2: assists at thirty four percent and second in rebounding and
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  Speaker 2: average one point three to seven fantasy points for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Sharing the floor with Steven Adams will hurt him a
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  Speaker 2: little bit from a rebounding rates perspective, but that does
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  Speaker 2: kind of come at the expense of him being less
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: and foul trouble because he's probably gonna be guarding Lou Dort,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: which Dort is just gonna be hanging around on the perimeter.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: So I think that there's a pretty good opportunity here
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: for saying you have such a lot ownership to put
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: up a pretty big score. Dropping down to Alma Thompson,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be underweight on him tonight. I just think
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: that a lot of things that he does really well
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: is are the things that Okay see is the lead
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: at defending h They were top five and DVP versus
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: point guards last season. I feel like I'm gonna get
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: flamed already for talking about DVP numbers on the first day,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: but it is important. We had their first and transition
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: as well first and riom defense. So it's just gonna
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: be really tough for him to put up actual points.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: And I mean he could. You know, he's another guy
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that does have triple double upside, but he is gonna
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: be tasked with a pretty large responsibility guarding sga on defense,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: which obviously leads into some foul trouble as well. But
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: he was really good in the minutes without frederin Fleet
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: last year. Averaged just over forty draftings points per game,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: one point two six Fantasy points for a minute. And
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: if I had to choose somebody that could lead the
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: slate in minutes tonight, he would probably be the top
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: option just because there's been He's just so durable and
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: just unlimited endurance, unlimited cardio. He could easily play forty
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: minutes here. I doubt he's gonna do that on Night one,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: but I would be surprised if if Udoka did run
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: his minutes up to try to make a statement on
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: opening night against the defending champs and then the Tari
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: East and Jabari Smith grouping, I would say, I guess
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I'll throw in Steven Adams in there as well, just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: because I think that those three are kind of all
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: correlated Sengoon as well, But I think that if the
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: minutes with Steven Adam do go poorly, it's probably Eastan
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: that's going to see his minutes propped up.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: There.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: There's just such a wide range of outcomes, and he's
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: him and all men are kind of guys that I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: prefer to fire up against teams that have high turnover rate,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: high turnover percentage and poor rim slash transition defense. Definitely
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: not the things that Okay does poorly. So siliskically tougher
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: matchup for Tari and Aman Thompson here, but it does
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: provide us a little bit of leverage getting off of
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Steven adams Chock to spend up on Tari east I
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: think that he would be the benefactor if that the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: big lineup does do poorly. I like Jabari a lot
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: here tonight. He was really really good in the preseason,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and it makes a lot of sense considering that he
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: spent the summer training with Kevin Durant. I think that's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: going to be really big for his career in general,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: just because he is obviously nobody's as good as Kevin Durant.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: But like if you put them side by side, they're
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: very similar, very skinny, tall guy that does have a
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: little bit of a off ball or off the dribble.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Upside.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: So I think that it's gonna be really good for
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Jabari career wise to see him get a little bit
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: better offensively. But he should be really good with no
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: fred Van Fleet. He was hit a twenty one percent straight.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna come down a little bit with
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Durant in the lineup. But did average one point zero
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: six Fantasy points for a minute in those non ban
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Fleet minutes.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Just got paid too, Yeah, just got paid.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: So a lot a lot pointing up for Jabari Smith
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: here and then the last guy we'll talk about. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: guess I gotta touch on Steven Adams because he was
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: really good as a starter last year. I just kind
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of I think that he is a guy that does
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: have a wide range of outcomes. He started three times
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: last year average twenty nine DK points per game. One
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of those games was against Okay See where he put
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: up twenty nine draftings points six offensive rebounds, which I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: mentioned was a pretty big spot to exploit for the
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the Houston front court and the reach Ephard. I don't
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: think you's probably keeping your player pool just in the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: off chance he does see a lot of minutes, which
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think is gonna happen, just because there's I mean,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get hunted on defensive he's out there. He's
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: pretty undersized even for a point guard. But an elite
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: fantasy form from a producer, there will definitely be times
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a season where we can play him. I just don't
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: think that tonight is gonna be that night. Uh do
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you want me to jump over to straight into the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: okay S side?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Do you want to? Yeah? Well, yeah, my I don't
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: really have too much more to add, like I'm gonna
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: be underweight. And then Thompson, it feels like just at
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: his I mean, he can't shoot right now at the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: end of the day, and now with KD there, with
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: singun Wan and the ball, you need a real score
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: at seven to nine, and it feels like when he
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: does get that, it's the double doubles, a lot of
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: transition points, just not the matchup, like you're saying against
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the thunder. So I don't love him much. KD definitely
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: don't love him much at the price, And just like
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: when you're comparing him to SGA only six hundred more.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Steph's cheaper. I mean, Jimmy Butler looks a little mispriced.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I even prefer Amin Thompson for a lot less, Like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I just can't get to that price, I don't think.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm also wondering, like you think Singoon will have a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: lot of if this game is played in the half court,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Like they'll run the offense for him, which I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: would be smart if that's the case. I mean, KD
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: seems really overpriced for his role at least to start
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the year on this team, and the Sengoon's tough and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the fact of just centers so good, but he'll keep
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: his price down. Like if there's one guy that can
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: break the slate at what do we have ten percent
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: ownership right now? Singgun clearly looks like the guy, But
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: there's so much opportunity costs at center that you're getting
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: on more different roster construction stuff. You need him, Like
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: whatever you haven't projected at you probably want like seven
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: eight points more than there. So like I'm finding myself
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: on the rockets just playing more of these middleing and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: cheaper guys. I always love Tara Easton. I feel like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we talk about him all the time last year. Just
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: a great point per minuted guy. I like Jabari a lot,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and then Steven Adams. I guess I've been going back
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and forth like if we or if you really think
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like this double big lineup that the Thunder will exploit it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, like Hartenstein chat, the Thunder is just so
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: good at exploiting stuff like that. But man, Steven Adams
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: was so good in the playoffs last year for a
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: lot of games and had such a great role that
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: if you're giving me twenty ish minutes a little more
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Steven Adams, I think that's a very solid value. So
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: right now it's Jabbari Easan Adams is my favorite ones
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on the Thunder or on the on the Rockets. Yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm gonna give a shout out
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to my guy, Shane. I appreciate the five dollars.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You have a good, good follow on Twitter if if
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: any of you guys are interested in some betting content.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. Also, it's the first first NBA show. We are
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: giving out two things. One is from our man Jordan Newins.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: He's given forty dollars away for a single entry that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: someone could play today. So I'm gonna let when Rio
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: gets back, I'm gonna let him talk about the thunder
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: side and then I will think of something or if
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you have any idea Rio to do that, because we're
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: also giving out shout out to I'm gonna say shout
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• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you know what this is? What I do on the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: MMA show is I think of like a player in
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  Speaker 1: this game, or like maybe it's on the slate and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I say, like, whoever guesses at first, you only can
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: say it once. I don't know, real, do you have
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: any good ideas on how to give away these these
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: two things?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I know for sure that the forty dollars for
• 23:03
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• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you have to get for that one.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: So that member in that one and then the other
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  Speaker 1: one can't be a member because we're giving a membership.
• 23:11
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• 23:14
  Speaker 1: if you're or is it better to get it give
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it away in the discord?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Do you think for the forty ticket, Yeah, we'll do
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: that on the discord after the show, and then we
• 23:23
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• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, and again shout out, this is not from us
• 23:27
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• 23:41
  Speaker 1: if you're when we do this, I'll think of which
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like if it's going to be the full game, the
• 23:47
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• 23:49
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• 23:52
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• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the forty in the discord. All right, talk about the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: thunder Side and I guess, like, if it is Caruso
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: or if it is Casein, or if it was Wiggins, Like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: does that change anything really for you depending on who starts. Like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: they're all good, They're all going to be in play regardless,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: But would that change anything depending on who it is.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, just because these guys are all
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: so priced closely together, and I don't really think that
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: anyone in particular is gonna run away from it. From
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: like a minute standpoint, I think they're gonna do their
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: best to even it out. I would just say, like, defensively,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it makes the most sense to get Caruser out there
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: just because of his capability of defending one through five,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and they're probably gonna want him on Durant to start.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I just think that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Caseon might be a little bit undersized for the starting
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: line of Houston's gonna be thrown out there. So Caruso
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: to me, makes the most sense. But I would say
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Casein is probably the second best option. I don't I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: don't think that there's a chance that Williams starts personally,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: but that's just kind of me guessing. But yeah, starting
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: off with SGA, you know, historic season last year won
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the regular season, MVP Finals, Champion Finals, MVP. So yeah, great,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: great season. Okay, see, I think that they are clearly
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the front runners to repeat this season. But he set
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: up for success like kind of right off the bat
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: versus Houston. They really struggled versus pick and roll last year,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: didn't They really didn't make any moves to improve their
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: on ball defense. I think that is a plus for SGA.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: He was second league in pick and roll scoring last season,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be the area that the Thunder looked
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to attack right away. On top of the matchup being
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a good one for him, obviously, no JDub is going
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to help him a lot. He was Jaylen Williams second
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: on the team in usage last season. You don't only
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: see a big usage bump for SGA with jadeb off
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the court, just because he's already had such a high
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: usage rate. It's still a thirty five percent, but he
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: did see a pretty big bump in his assist and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: his fantasy points for a minute plus four point six
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: percent assists rate increased, then plus six point three fantasy
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: points for a minute at an elite number, one point
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: seventy five fantasy points for a minute. I think on
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: a two games late, it's gonna be really tough to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: not play Sha At just ten point three K, this
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: is probably as cheap as we'll get him for a
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: long time. I feel like most of the season last
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: year is up above eleven K, and now we get
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: him without Jalen Wims. I mean, he's probably the best
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: spend up option on the slate. But it's obviously not
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: that hard to make an argument for Luca either, But
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I think I have them pretty pretty close together tonight.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Next up for the thunder and usage will probably be Chet.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: He was just at twenty two percent in the minutes
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: without Jalen Williams on the court, But I think the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: main reason is because he and Jaylen Williams were highly
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: correlated last year. They spent a lot of their time
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: together on the court with Sja off the court. In
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that second quarter rotation, Shay usually plays the first first
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the first twelve minutes of the game. Then they'll sub
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: in Jaylen Williams and Chet to start the second. Well
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: to see what they do here with no Jileen Williams.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: But I think that with the matchup considered, just all
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the size on the Houston side I don't really see
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: this being a really great spot for Chet, so probably
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be underweight him because he's gonna be a little
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: bit more reliant on the jumper. There's just gonna be
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: too much into your presence for him to get some
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: scoring around the basket, and he's going to be at
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: a huge strength disadvantage if it is Steve man Adams
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: on him, or if he has to defense Steve Madams,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like I've seen really getting bullied, like we saw kind.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Of a lot last year.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: But that kind of gets me on the Hardenstein at
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: five point four K gonna be a spot where they're
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: really going to need his size. I think that on
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a normal opening night against any other team, he's probably
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: playing like twenty two to twenty four minutes. I could
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: see that getting up to like twenty five twenty six here,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: just being that they need a lot of size against
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the Houston front court. I would say he's probably the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: top value playing the slate. Five point four k really
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: good price for just the upside and kind of floor
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that he provides. I think calling him a triple double
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: threat is taken a little bit out of context, but
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: he did have a pretty solid assist percentage fifteen percent
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: with Jalen Williams off the court. Last season average thirty
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: six point three DraftKings points per game in eight games
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: without Jalen Williams. So he's looking like a top play
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it to and I definitely a court play for me,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: give that out for free. But yeah, he looks it's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: really really good here.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And then it's kind of.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: The four guys case of Wallace Wiggins CRUs of Dort
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that are all kind of a bunched together. I think
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be max two of those four guys. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: just don't really see a case where three of them
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: get there.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It's really good for Russa, Wallace Wiggins, Dort Yep.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that all those guys are pretty
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: highly correlated in a negative way. They're all gonna I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: don't think that there really will ever be a time
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: we're all four or three of them share the court together.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So it's can be really tough for multiple of them
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to get there on even on a small slate. If
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Cruiz so starting, I would say he's my favorite option.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Looks really good at four point six k kind of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a do it all guy. I don't really think that
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: there's much from matchup perspective that stands out, but he
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: can provide a little bit of value in peripheral stats
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, shot pretty well last season. Aaron Wiggins
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: is the guy that has the most upside for sure.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: He had a couple of fifty point outings drafting point
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: outings without Lou Dort or without Jaylen Williams last season.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of that came at the very end when
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: they're you know, Utah, and they didn't really have any
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: other starters. But clearly a guy that can get hot
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and could get a little bit more minutes than he
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: normally would on any any given night. So he's probably
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: got the most upside, but I would say the range
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: is the whitest for him.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Cason is probably the guy that I like the least.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: But if he is starting five percent, I don't know.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: If this number that I'm seeing five percent on a
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: couple of sides, then I think that we have him.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you have the number in front
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of you, But on the savor he's only predicted for
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: seven percent ownership.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Who is that, Cason Wallace? We got him projected for.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Seven okay, so yeah, pretty close around a couple of
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: different places around the industry, but it's probably smartest to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: get overweight that number just on the off chance that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he does see a little bit more minutes or it
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: gets hot. He does have a couple of games in
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: the upper twenties, which which would be pretty good on
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: such a small slate at five point one K. But
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I would probably rank him as my least favorite of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the four players, and then lou Dort safest from a
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: minute's perspective for sure. And I would say this a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: little bit more working in his favor as well. He
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't add really any peripheral stats. We are asking for
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a hot shooting night for him. But I think you
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: probably hear me mention this a lot this season. I
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: did a lot last season. But he's much much better
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: at home than he is on the road. Shot forty
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: five percent from three at home, thirty five percent on
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the road, averaged three more real points. So and you
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: think Steve Adams is guarding him, I think it's sengoon
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: on him.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Or that's what I or yeah, that's what I meant.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I mean a big is guarding him. That's not going
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to be like that's a lot of open looks in
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the corner for loudort if it's in goon. Yeah, definitely,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: it's extremely frustrating playing him because he just launches those
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: moon ball three pointers and sometimes they fall, sometimes they don't.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: But definitely much much better at home than he is
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: on the road. So I would be a little bit
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: more confident in him tonight as a value option. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: then's around the rotation, probably going to see a little
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: bit of Jalen Williams get the backup center minutes. Don't
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: think that you really should be playing him over Steven Adams.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: If you're going.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Down that low, then Aj Mitchell should get the backup
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: point guard minutes, which if they take it easy on
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: SGA to start the season, that might be like sixteen
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to eighteen minutes. I don't think it's going to be
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: like twenty. I don't really know if they're going to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: overlap that much. I just don't really think that there's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: enough usage to go around for Aj Mitchell. I had
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: kind of like a couple value plays in that Goen
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: State Lakers game a little bit better. And then if
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: you told me that I knew that Usman Jang was
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: getting like fifteen minutes, which I don't think that he is.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I would probably be playing him above AJ and Jalen Williams,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: but he's probably not going to play more than a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: rotation if he does even see the court at all.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I like the.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Like SGA and Harden sign a ton. Okay, with all
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: of those value guys that have mentioned the Wallace Wiggins
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: CRUs of dort grouping and then all those guys that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the mintion in Houston kind of rounds things up.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: If there was like one team I had to pick
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: to have the most exposure today, it would be the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Thunder for me, and I think pretty clearly. And a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with if you have
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to spend up in SGA, if you want you have
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: CHAT in the mid tier that's very solid as well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: But you just have so many five K four K
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: players that are gonna see a good chunk of minutes.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Like No, Jalen Williams is huge for this team. They
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: already Lou Door. He can make plenty of threes, Caruso
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: can fill it up in multiple ways. Wiggins has shown
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: up side, Cason Wallace is a good basketball player. Like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: You've got plenty of guys that are going to be
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on the court for meaningful time on a two games
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: slate where values relatively tough ownership will reflect that. But like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: if I have four, I don't know five, OKC in
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: my lineup. Five might be a little stretching it up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But if I got a team with that in one
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, like, I'm not saying no to that today. Again,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: roster construction is the way to try and eliminate dupes
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: or stuff or go more in one game, Like we
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: talked about in football, maybe one game blows out today,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the other game's really close, and then that's the game
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you need, so over stack in that. Roster construction is
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: definitely a way to get different more so than like
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: leave money and stuff. So I think the thunder are
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: really strong, not much more to add, Like Hartenstein SGA
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: feel like two of the best plays on the slate,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and I like the the other value pieces as well.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Any thoughts on who guards to like, people are like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: who's guarding SGA? Who is is a lot of who's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Caruso guarding? Yeah, it's mainly that, or I wonder if
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: they put chat on Jabbari, Like just a lot of
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: matchup questions people are wondering do you have a strong
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: lean on on who the individual matchups are should be on?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Men on SGA is what I would imagine for Okay, see,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: if Caruso is starting, I would imagine to put him
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: on Durant and then uh, we said somebody else singoon
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: on Jabbari.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Jabari and chat is Jabari gonna be on chet?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would imagine that's that's the matchup, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: then Horn Sun and Adams against each other.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. I got nothing really more to add.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I think. I think what we're gonna do is so I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: got a name in mind for one guy in this
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: first two games of the slate, or this first game
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: on the Rocket side on the Thunder. It could be
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: any of these guys that we have on the stone.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So I have one name in mind. If you're not
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a member, you have one answer. Go if you get
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: it wrong. If you put two in your your band,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not blocking you, but you just can't win the membership.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: But you have one guess. Whoever gets it right first
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: gets the core package again. Ninety nine dollars. Shout out
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to go collect Shout out to his friend who did it? Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: ninety nine bucks, you get sabers him, you get all
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of our content for one month month, and you get
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: access to the Discord. No better deal. So I see
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: him coming in. I'll let Rio talk about this Warriors
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and Lakers game, and I will be on the lookout
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: in chat for see who to see who won it
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: two and a half point favorites other Warriors two twenty
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: six and a half total in this one. Injury news
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: on this side obviously, no questionable tags really meet anything.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: What we got Moses Moody who will not be playing,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and then we have Lebron who's out for a little
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: bit to start the year with a back injury. All
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, Gabe Vincent, I see that name there,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and man Underdog, I think it was last week or
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: something started off five for five from Deep just absolutely
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: with stroking it. That was pretty cool to see. So yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I already hinted my or tip my hand. I prefer
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the thunder Rockets game if choosing more than this game.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: But I mean it's a two games slate, A lot
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of random stuff can happen, so yeah, breakdown
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I think it might be more into this game. I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: could see this one being a lot closer and probably
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: playing a little bit more up in pace. I think
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that these defenses are much much worse than the guys
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: in the first game, but the offenses are definitely better
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: than Houston oki Se game. So you can't really go
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: wrong with going heavy on either side here.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: But I'll just say quick, the totals are pretty much
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the same, two twenty seven and a half for the Rockets,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: two twenty six and a half for this one. It
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: was two twenty five. It actually went up in the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: past like ten minutes, but they're like just looking at
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: it that way and spreads like only four point difference
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like Vegas wise, it looks very similar.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, yeah, So the Warrior's gonna be near
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: full strength with Jimmy and Kaminga being listed probable here. Obviously,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you know Moses Moody, that is one kind of back
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: in rotation gut that they'll be missing. But they will
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: have Al Horford ready for this game. We did get
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: note I don't know, half an hour ago, an hour
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: ago that said Kaminga is probably gonna be starting tonight.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: We can't really, you know, rely on Steve Curr's word
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: because he's probably the biggest liar in the league. If
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: we had like a coach Speak index for NBA, his
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: reliability rating would definitely be like thirty percent. But yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the Warriors defense was really really good in the second
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: half of the season last year. With the addition of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, their offense was a lot better as well.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: It helped them a lot offensively, just to take some
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: usage and responsibility off of Steph Curry's played and run
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: some of the offense through Jimmy, through Draymond, through pods
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So I think that they'll be pretty decent.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I think there'll be a pretty decent team in the
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: West this season, like a little dark course maybe you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: five to six seed. I could see that happening this season.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And the Lakers, on their hand, I think that they
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: could be a little bit worse to start the year off. Obviously,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: know Lebron hurts them a ton, but they don't. They
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: didn't really do a lot to improve their roster. A
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: lot of that probably is because of Lebron. I mean,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: anytime you opt into a fifty million dollars a year
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: contracts and be hard to sign guys. But they did
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: get DeAndre Ayden, which I would say is a upgrade
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: from what they had. You know what they're running out
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: there at the front court last year. Marcus Smart, I
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: think is a good addition, although he's kind of on
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the tail end of his career. Other than that, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: like Jake Lariba too. I like that audition. I like
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: we always liked him as a player, just as a
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Ship of Nations kind of always been pretty high on him.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But their guard defense I think could really really struggle
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: early on. They their best on ball defender is probably
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be Gavee Vincent, and he's really not that great
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: kind of undersize to be garden guys in the league.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I would say, so, I don't. I just think that
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the the guards against Lakers are going to be something
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have to look to attack pretty early and often,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: which kind of leads me right into Steph Curry. Nine
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: point three K I think is a really really good
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: price tag for Steph coming into the season fully healthy.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: He's just been lights out against the Lakers dating back
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: to last season, really only had one bad game versus
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: them where he was below forty draftings points, otherwise was
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: above fifty and three out of four games averaged thirty
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: one points, three rebounds, six point three assists per game,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: forty seven point three draftings points, Like I said, top
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: fifty draftings points in three out of those four games.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And then we had a one hundred and twenty minute
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: sample last season where him and Jimmy played together in
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: the court. I believe that's the regular season, and in
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: those minutes, Steph did see a plus five point six
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: percent you sage rate increase averaged one point five to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: three fantasy points per minute.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: See.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot going right for Steph here.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I think that he's going to be an elite spend
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: up option tonight on a slate where he has to,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you know, compete with Luca and Shay for top score
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: at the point guard position. But that's definitely gonna leave him,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I would say under owned then more underwrowned than he
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: should be. I mean, I would probably be playing Steph
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: on a six game main slate if we had more
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: options at this price and at the end this matchups.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I really really like Steph here a little bit lower
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: on Jimmy. I get that the price is really good AKA,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: but I could see him being eased into the season
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to start like maybe low thirties is maybe even like
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes is what they kind of have planned for
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: him to start the season, just you know, not coming
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: into the season at full strength. And I would say
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: that if there were any sort of strengths defensively for
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the Lakers, it would be at the wing. They got
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a pretty decent size and defenders and Rui Hachemora and
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Jake Laaravia. Now, and we have seen Jimmy kind of
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: take a back seat to step at times. We've also
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: seen them take over at times. But I think that
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be more of a Steph Knight than
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Knights. I'll be a little bit higher on Steph
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: than Jimmy in the spot here. Podds was great in
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the postseason. He looks pretty expensive right now. It's six
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: point six k but and he might even be fourth
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: in the pecking order in terms of usage, which makes
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: him a little bit tougher of a cell. But like
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I said, the guards against Lacas, I think is going
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to be a spot to exploit early on. So I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: would say, you know, single digit owned pods probably looks
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: pretty good here. I would just kind of maybe even
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: manually set a min max exposure to get overweight on
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: him because it's going to be tough at the projection
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: that we haven't met. But I do think that there
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: is some upside. He was playing really, really well towards
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the end of last season alongside Jimmy and Steph average
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: just over one Fantasy points for a minute, but you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: did have a couple of games where he did touch
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: forty Draftings points, So there's definitely some upside. I don't
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: think that I'll have like twenty five or thirty percent
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: of him, but fifteen sounds like a good number. And
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: then you know, since we got word that Kaminga is
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: going to be starting alongside Jimmy Butler and Jerymond Green,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: it makes it a little tougher now, I would say,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: just to make the case for Kaminia, just because that
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: has really been a They really didn't want to run
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: those guys all three together on the court last season,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: just because you really lose a lot of floor spacing capability,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: especially taking away Al Horford, who is you know, a
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: decent shot maker, I would say, and then switching him
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: out for Kaminga who needs floor spacing to be productive
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: on the court just because he's not gonna take a
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: ton of threes. He's more so looking to get downhill
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and get to the basket. He's just a little bit
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: too expensive right now. I would say at five point
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: nine k even being listed as a starter, and I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: would probably want to be max two of KAMINGA Draymond
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and Al Horford tonight. I just don't really see those
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: three all getting there at these price tags. I mean,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: they're only, you know, two hundred apart. Well, he's four
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: hundred away from Al Horford, but him and Draymond only
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: two hundred apart. Draymond and Al Horford only two hundred apart.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be a little bit tougher
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to see more than two of those guys get there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I do prefer Draymond in a pretty big way to
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: the trio, especially with Al Horford shipping into the bench
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: role now he's they're not gonna be playing him more
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: than twenty minutes a night. It's just gonna be really
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: tough for him to reach value at this price. They're
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: gonna be mixing and guys like Quinn Post and potentially
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: even tray Shacks and Davis if things go poorly, So yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I think that it's kind of condensed on the the
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: warrior side between Steph a little bit less so, Jimmy Pods,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: and then Draymond. I would say the options I'm really
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: looking towards. Gary Payton has been kind of talked about
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Three point two K. I'm never really
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: too excited about playing him even on a two games slay.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Just a really low usage guy and probably not really
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: playing a ton of minutes. We're gonna need to kind
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: of bank on him getting like four stocks and knocking
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: down two three three pointers. He just doesn't He probably
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: not taking more than three shots on any given night,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: So it won't be somebody that's heavily featured in my
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: portfolio tonight. They have talked about this Will Richard guy
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: getting some minutes. I don't know if there's enough juice
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: to play there on a two even on a two
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: games slay. I'm probably gonna need some more injuries in
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: order to get to him later in the season, but
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: somebody keep an eye on for sure. And then switching
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: over to the Laker side, Luke at eleven K is
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a really really good price tag with no Lebron, I
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: mean he's going to be twelve K. I would say
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: before the before a month in the season, for sure
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: he was. He's looking really good, physically, lost a lot
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: of weight, looked really good in the euro League, looked
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: pretty good in the preseason, had some you know, elite
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: usage numbers. Uh, so you should be able to pick
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: up some big minutes right off the bat. I would
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: imagine he's, you know, looking pretty good endurance wise. There's
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: only five games that Luca played for the Lakers last
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: year without Lebron, but he was obviously great in those games,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: average sixty three point three draftings points per game, thirty
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: point four points, ten point two rebounds, eight point eight
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: assist per game. And then in the non Lebron minutes,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Luca was at forty five percent usage rate, forty four
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: percent assist, fifteen percent rebounding rate, averaged one point eighty
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: seven fantasy points for a minute, which is on par
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: with like a Jokic and Wemby type of fantasy port
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: from minuted production. So yeah, I think you there's plenty
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: of value to get up to Luca tonight. I think
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: that you play him a lot early and often, like
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: play him pretty much every single night. Of the season
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: until Lebron comes is what I would recommend, and then
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: similar to similar to Luca, but on a lesser scale,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Reeves is going to see an increased role early on.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Clearly was second on the team and usage at a
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: modest twenty two percent, but did have a twenty four
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: percent assist rate, eight percent rebounding rate, average one point
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: one eight Fantasy points for a minute, and fifty three
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: DraftKings points without Lebron last season. That was in total,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: but the number did shrink a little bit when you
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: added Luca into those games. Average forty seven point three
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Draftkans points per game without Lebron, and with Luca it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: still an elite number for somebody. At seven point three K.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Those two are clearly the best options for the Lakers
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and probably two of the better overall points for dollar
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: plays on the entire slate. And then they'll get DeAndre
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Aiden into starting lineup six point three K. Now, with
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: no Al Horford, I think it's a little bit better
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: for Aighton. Uh there's gonna be a lot less floor spacing,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: so he can kind of hang around the rim a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: little bit more with Kaming out there, and Draymond probably
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be the guy that he's defending the most. I
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: think that he's gonna be fine, leaving Draymond open a
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, you know, I don't know if
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: there's really ton to say about Aid, and we kind
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: of know what he is at this point of his career.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: One point one fantasy points for a minute is pretty
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: solid for somebody at six point three K that's probably
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: playing thirty one thirty two minutes. So yeah, I don't
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: really have a ton negative to say about him. I
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: think he's fine. There are some downside to him getting cut,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: just if he's poor on defense and doesn't really show effort.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: JJ you know, being a former player, I think has
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: strong opinions about that, so that I wouldn't be surprised
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't show effort on a couple of plays
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: and gets a quick hook for guys like Vanderbilt Jake
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Larabia may that you can play smaller against the Warriors
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: site that is a possibility, But all in all, I
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: would say that he's a fine option okay, but not great.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Brewery is going to have to step up on offense.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I don't really like him at five point six K,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: but he did us some pretty big games without Lebron
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: last season, but a much lower fantasy point from minute
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: guy with Luca and even without Lebron on the court,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And he does have a pretty tough task on defense
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: going to be guarding Jimmy, which does provide some foul risks,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: So not super high on him. I would say that
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Marcus Smart and gave Vincent are a pretty decently big
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: talking point here because I think that those two kind
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: of will be competing for that point guard shooting guard.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what you consider them.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, they have like three guards in the court,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: but whatever roster spot you consider Gabe to take over
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: in the starting lineup is kind of Marcus Smart's gonna
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: be competing for that. I think that Smart kind of
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: is a better option here. I don't really know where
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: he's at health wise. Is obviously getting older with a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: ton of injuries, a ton of mileage on him, but
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: he's just a better defender I think, probably more well
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: equipped to chase around Steph and even play on ball
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: on some other guys, and he's not a terrible shooter.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Does provide more peripheral stats. Obviously, a guy that can
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: get you know, two or three steals in a block
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: or so and kind of hit value pretty quickly. But
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I would say that if I had to give minutes
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: to those two guys, that's probably gonna be like a
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: sixty to forty split in favor of Gabe, which would
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: make him a little bit better at three point five K.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: And then you take into account how hot he was
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: coming into the season, you know, with some of those
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: crazy preseason performances. I would probably lean Gabe. But Smart
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: is eight hundred dollars more expensive in the salary. I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna need it tonight, so he probably is
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the higher leverage spot. If I knew that he was
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be like half the ownership as Gabe, which I
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: don't know is going to be the case, I'll probably
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: choose Smart. But I think that just minutes wise, you
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: kind of have to lean Gabe here. Vanderbilt should get
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the backup center minutes would not play him with Ayden,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I think that if the minutes come
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: up for him, it's going to be at the expensive eighton,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: which would make them very highly negatively correlated. But he's
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: a little I would I'd probably prefer to be like
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: three point five K, like Gabe is coming off the bench.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: But Jake Laravia, as the last gal mentioned, I think
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: that he's probably my favorite value play on the Lakers side.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want this to get taken out of context,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: but la Ravia kind of does some of the things
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: that Lebron does, like in terms of being you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: big four stretcher and I would say a plus passer
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: first position. Obviously, he's nowhere near Lebron, probably not even
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: ten percent of Lebron, but he can do some of
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: those same things, and he's a pretty decent defender. You
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: kind of have the potential foul risk for Ruey to
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: fall back on as well. Laarravia is a career point
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: a three fantasy porner minted producers, so pretty solid for
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: somebody at that price.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I do like Jake Larivia a good bit. I like
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Laravia quite a bit too. I prefer Lakers side definitely
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: more than Warrior's side. Like my two favorites like teams.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: If I had to get ownership to is the Thunder
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and the Lakers for sure. Man, I always am a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Ruie guy. The thing is he just like on this
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: two game slate, I'm seeing like thirteen percent, What can
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: his minutes get up to? Can he can he get
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: me twenty eight minutes today?
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I think that's like on the low end, I would
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: say thirty two to thirty two is probably where he's
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: at on Norman I, but I think even thirty four
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: to thirty five.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Is he's one of the best, is one of the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: best plays fifty six hundred. You look at all these
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: OKC guys, Cason Walls will be higher on obviously Heart
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and sign completely different positions. Caruso will be higher on.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Aaron Wiggins will be higher owned. Barie Smith's gonna be
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: higher own right by Draymond. Yeah, that's all I had
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to hear. I'm definitely in and Raymond. I like your
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: La Rabia stuff Again, I like the lakerside a lot more.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Someone asked if you can like how much your portfolio
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: will have Sga and Luca, Like, I kind of built
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: my just like a one to fifty to start, just
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to look at the slate. I'll definitely rebuild. But it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: really easy to get both of them. There's plenty of
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: value on this late. If those guys both get you
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: sixty three plus or whatever, you probably want that. So
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure you built your one fifty. Like, I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: don't know if you can answer this question, but it's
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: really easy to do. So, uh yeah, I definitely have
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a bill.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Yo, there's a couple more things I gotta cross off
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: before building, but I would imagine I would probably guess
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: right now I would have more Luca and Stuff builts
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: than Luca and SGA. Okay, but that's just kind of
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a just a guesstimation right now because I don't know.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, back to the in the beginning, coach have
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even look at the stack exposure thing on here.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: It's really it's irrelevant. Like if you're using Sabersim, I could,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you anything, to be honest, it's not hockey,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it's not baseball. I don't look at it one bit.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I trust Sabersim. Like when you click on their individual players,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you can see the positive or negative correlation with other
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: guys on their team, and it's usually pretty minuscule. But
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like all that's taken into consideration when when building teams,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: So I do not look at that one bit. Is
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: there anything else? We did get a winner? I'll mention
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: that as sec Was there anything else in terms of yeah,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I mean the Vincent smart stuff. You're making a rule there,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: or because they're they're cheap enough that if they both
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: get you have like five x that that can work.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I want to look back at some of the Menace
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: and see how much they overlapped in the preseason. I'm
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: just kind of guessing that I don't think that they'll
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: be playing much alongside of each other, so I might
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: make a rule, But I also just don't think that
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a lot of line ups to feature
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: both of them because I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: favoring one over the other for minutes and fantasy points.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Man, I really don't like this this
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Warrior stuff much at all. They're my least favorite. Lakers
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: is super strong. I think Aton's top one of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: best center plays Luca. There's no words that need to
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: be said. I mean, Reeves is a hooper. J. J.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Redick was stocking. He is the best player on the court.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: A lot of there there's stuff in the offseason. The
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: price is very fair at seventy three hundred. No Lebron
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the ball be in his hand more. You gotta feel
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like any like they're gonna have at least one of
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Reeves and Luca on the field or on the field. Man,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I'm talking a lot of NFL on the court for
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: all every single minute. Right, they have to stagger when
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: they sit out. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah. I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: mean anytime that either is not on the court, their
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: usage is going to be through the roof. I like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Laarabia call. I definitely like the Larrabia call. And I
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like Ruey quite a bit. I'm not really much sad
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: on on the Warrior stuff. If you go back like
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: twelve minutes, I don't know how long ago it was,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: but I gave all that I don't mess with correlation. No,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I trust Saber sim and whatever they got going to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the background, whatever they've they've studied, I don't mess with
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it personally. So I wanted to the winner and the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: guy Ricky. It's Ricky Piersall. So the guy that I
• 52:35
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• 52:37
  Speaker 1: say Red just beat mister Mike's daddy, just beat kit Cloud,
• 52:42
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• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the first one. He did stay down below though that
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: he had to go like eat dinner. Gotta pause for
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: dinner things. So I hope you're gonna come back Ricky
• 52:55
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• 53:01
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• 53:14
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• 53:27
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• 53:32
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• 53:40
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• 53:43
  Speaker 1: any members out there. Again, Jordan's given away a forty
• 53:46
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• 53:50
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• 53:51
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do the same thing for the Warriors, Lakers, game.
• 53:54
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• 53:57
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• 54:01
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly what he said, forty dollars to you.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Very nice of you, guys. What is Vincent's ownership? So
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: this is the nice thing about the Stone. We can
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: go and look on DraftKings. We have them at twelve percent.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: On FanDuel we have them at seven percent. One thing
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I did want to mention fandle the DraftKings pods that
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: price tag five to seven on fanduels six to six
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: on DK will be over double owned on FanDuel then
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you will on DK, So that was one big price
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: difference that I noticed. There. Any final thoughts, Rio, Anya,
• 54:33
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• 54:35
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• 54:37
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• 54:41
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• 54:46
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• 54:48
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• 54:51
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• 54:54
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• 55:01
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• 55:10
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• 55:13
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• 55:16
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• 55:19
  Speaker 1: on out of here.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: No, I did want to touch on something real quick obvious,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the Vincent and Smart stuff. I guess I was probably
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit higher thinking that Vincent would get more
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: ownership than Smart, just because I realized it gave only
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: has point guard eligibility and Smart has streating guard eligibility,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: so that's probably gonna lean to more people playing him.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: So I would imagine that's probably gonna be the case tonight. Yeah,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think no no Bold calls right now. Will
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: probably be doing a lot of those with him because
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: he loves the loves the triple double calls or the
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: eight plus three calls, So we'll do something like that
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: later on. But yeah, appreciate everybody tuning in. Really good
• 56:01
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• 56:08
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• 56:11
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• 56:13
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• 56:18
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• 56:23
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• 56:25
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• 56:28
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• 56:32
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• 56:36
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• 56:38
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