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Lazor Lanson -- Acting, Movement & Presence · Alive & Kicking: Stories of Waking Up with Kay Eck

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SPEAKER_01: I have had some close people in my life struggle with substance abuse, and I've seen them trying to make themselves feel okay with substances.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that they don't know another way.
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SPEAKER_01: They have to go to that.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't blame them because I realize they're just trying to calm their own pain and and they weren't taught, you know, breath work or fascia release or whatever meditation practice.
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SPEAKER_01: And so for me, finding those natural holistic practices has been like a gold mod.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, wow, you can feel good and calm your anxiety.
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SPEAKER_01: I used to be a super anxious person naturally, and I think the way God intended it.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome back, everybody, to the Live and Kicking Podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: Our guest this week is Laser Lanson.
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SPEAKER_00: Hi, Laser.
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SPEAKER_01: Hello.
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SPEAKER_00: How are you?
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SPEAKER_01: I am good.
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SPEAKER_01: How are you?
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SPEAKER_00: Good.
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SPEAKER_00: So I usually like to start out talking a little bit about how I come across my guests' paths because that's really everybody that I interview is somebody that I've I know and have found fascinating.
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SPEAKER_00: So here we are.
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SPEAKER_00: So you and I have not exactly known each other as adults, but I'm a friend of your mom's.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I first met you when I think you might have been in eighth grade.
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SPEAKER_00: And then um I kind of yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And and you used to come to my yoga class and my yoga and meditation class every now and then.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, sometimes I would see you um here and there.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was also able to follow your high school career, your high school acting career, and got so much uh joy out of seeing you become an incredible actor.
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SPEAKER_00: I just always felt like you have this enormous charisma.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think it's like the kind of charisma that comes from like an inner light.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of why I wanted to um talk to you for the Alive and Kicking podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: So welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you very much.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm appreciative that you have had me on this now.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So wow, where to begin?
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SPEAKER_00: So I want to talk a little bit about I like to start in childhood, and you grew up in a very unique place for growing up at Sedona, which is where I met you.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want to know what that was like for you.
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SPEAKER_01: That's a great question.
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SPEAKER_01: I I feel like I attribute a lot of who I am today to my upbringing in Sedona.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I would say when I was younger, I mean, I didn't think much of it.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I I think all of my friends, all of us who grew up in Sedona, we took it for granted because that's all we've knew, you know, that was all we ever knew.
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SPEAKER_01: So we were just like, okay, this is our little town, and the scope of the world wasn't obviously there for a young little boy.
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SPEAKER_01: So I was very happy though.
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SPEAKER_01: I was very happy in this town, and I had my mom trap took me to travel to different places, so I was, it's not like I'd never left the town.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I went out of the country to Mexico when I was eight, and I went to Bali also when I was eight.
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SPEAKER_01: That was a that was a fun year, I guess.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I would say it wasn't until I was maybe around seventh grade, maybe, honestly, where I started to realize wow, I live in a very special place.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I I didn't really grow up, you know, Sona's known for hiking, it's known for a lot of spirituality, meditation, holistic healing.
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SPEAKER_01: And I wasn't really super into that when I was young.
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SPEAKER_01: I was just like any other young boy who liked Marvel movies and video games, honestly, playing on my phone a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I was not the I was not the spiritual, passionate, holistic, healing mind that I I feel like I'm becoming now.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I used to hate going to yoga class.
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SPEAKER_01: My mom used to make me, and I was like, oh, I don't want to go to that.
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SPEAKER_00: Here I was thinking that you were enjoying it.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually, when it came to your classes, you luckily got me at the point where I started to make that transition towards enjoying it.
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SPEAKER_01: But before that, it was a struggle to get me there.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, you say that you weren't really um aware of sort of the new age healing aspect of it, um, or the um alternative health uh aspect of it, but your mother was a myofascial and is a myofascial release um genius, I would say.
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SPEAKER_00: And so you it probably was, it must have been sort of baked into you.
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SPEAKER_00: And I and I think like also even when you um go to the grocery store, you know, the the people are talking about consciousness, or you know, you're overhearing these concepts that other children might not be exposed to.
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SPEAKER_00: So do you think that kind of primed you for where you're at in your life now?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, 100%.
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SPEAKER_01: 100%.
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SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't be, I wouldn't have the passion for the healing, holistic healing, and myofascial release if it wasn't for obviously for my mom and for my upbringing, because she was always around people like you, you know, therapists, healers, very spiritually minded people, uh, of all sorts of backgrounds.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah, 100% that's where the basis is for me.
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SPEAKER_00: So, what was your sense of yourself as a child?
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SPEAKER_00: Did you did you feel that certain things were expected of you?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, were you expected to be a certain way?
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SPEAKER_00: What was your what was your sense of yourself and what was your freedom to be yourself?
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SPEAKER_01: I think one thing that was unique to my upbringing is both of my parents were very supportive of feeling my emotions.
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SPEAKER_01: I was always encouraged to, you know, I was never reprimanded for crying um or told I needed to be stoic, or I think a lot of boys are, and still today, especially, you know, before, but especially even today.
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SPEAKER_01: So I was always encouraged to feel your feelings, express your emotions.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the healthy pathway to take, you know, not to shut off.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and I mean, my my mom worked a lot when I was young.
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SPEAKER_01: So I did kind of grow up, and my parents were split up.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, since I was three.
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SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't like I had a cohesive, strong family unit under one roof.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was always used to going over to my dad's or going over to my mom's, and that was what I knew as well.
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SPEAKER_01: So that didn't even feel traumatic to me at the time.
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SPEAKER_01: That was just my reality.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I don't think I felt ostracized from my friends or like I was different, felt like I fit in well with them.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think I always have felt, and I think I've had a lot of positive reinforcement that I have a lot of inner wisdom, a lot of kind of older soul energy.
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SPEAKER_01: Like people when I was very young would always tell me why you're so mature for your age.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think whether or not I was or not, it made me that because I was told that.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I kind of stepped into that role.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I am.
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SPEAKER_01: I am mature for an eight-year-old.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm precocious.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I think there was pros and cons of that because sometimes maybe I got a little self-important, maybe.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, but ultimately I think it it on, I think my dad would always tell me to be humble.
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SPEAKER_01: And ultimately, I I don't think it harmed me.
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SPEAKER_01: It it definitely you know benefited me much more.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We I mean that's the whole thing with positive reinforcement, is always so beneficial for a little kid.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it it it really is so interesting to I love talking to people your age because it it's really it really gives you a glimpse into how we're progressing as a society, you know, that there's pros and cons to growing up in your in your time, but one of the pros is that you know emotional intelligence is valued in everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: So I want to ask you a little bit about your your acting career.
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SPEAKER_00: What at what age did you start to feel like acting might be for you and why?
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SPEAKER_01: So it started actually.
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SPEAKER_01: I wanted to be a singer before an actor.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, my mom and I used to watch The Voice, and I wanted to be on Team Adam.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I just kind of grew up as like even a baby, you know, singing around the house.
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SPEAKER_01: Like there's videos of me as a toddler singing in the bathtub.
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SPEAKER_01: So I always loved music, I had an affinity for it.
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SPEAKER_01: I attribute that to my mom put me in this program called Music for Tots when I was an infant, and it was just me and a bunch of uh other infants banging on drums and shaking maracas.
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SPEAKER_00: And wow.
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SPEAKER_01: So I have a feeling, I have an inkling that kind of baked into me.
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SPEAKER_01: But I ended up coming to acting from a singing competition that I did when I was eight.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I entered into the competition, and one of the judges was a director for a local church play.
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SPEAKER_01: He invited me to audition.
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SPEAKER_01: I came and I got the role of the orphan boy.
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SPEAKER_01: And I ended up doing that production for three years.
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SPEAKER_01: I played an angel one of the years, and that was kind of when I decided, okay, I want to do acting and singing.
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it really blossomed from there.
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SPEAKER_00: It's kind of understandable to me.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, all the credit to your mom for the music and tots class, but I feel like the the quality of your voice is so special that uh I think you were probably born into it, came here for that that reason.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just I I've always loved this the sound of your voice.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, but thank you very much.
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SPEAKER_00: I I appreciate that.
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SPEAKER_00: And and you know, what what does acting do to a young person when your identity isn't necessarily well formed?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, you're kind of trying on different identities to begin with.
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SPEAKER_00: That's sort of the arc of a young person.
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SPEAKER_00: How did acting sort of interact with that?
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SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I've ever thought about it that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a great question.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I'd say the biggest thing that's so beneficial is it's just playing and it's the opportunity.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's good to start acting young because when you're young, you're more free to play.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, as we grow up, uh we society tells us we have to fit into these molds more and more and more.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think acting is such a liberating art form because it encourages you to break those molds all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And that that's what good acting is.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what's exciting, is when you're uh doing something spontaneous and in the moment, and maybe even a little um not edgy, but yeah, you know, kind of like, whoa, it makes you feel unsafe a little.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'd say that the aspect of play is is a big bonus to to kids acting.
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SPEAKER_01: But let's see, what was your question?
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SPEAKER_01: That wasn't exactly what you asked.
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SPEAKER_01: What what did you ask?
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SPEAKER_00: How you know, like when you're when you're a young person, you're you're automatically like trying on these different identities, and then of course, acting is about becoming a different identity.
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SPEAKER_00: So, how what did that do to you as a young person to be able to experience that freedom that you spoke of?
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SPEAKER_00: Because it seems like it would be huge.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, actually, I think I am a pretty confident person.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm not the coolest guy, I'm not the most nonchalant, suave guy.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of goofy a lot of times, but I don't hide myself.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that is be from okay, I've played goofy characters and I've gotten claps for that in the audience, and I've played more, you know, aggressive, passionate, super like hero, heroic type of characters, and gotten claps for that.
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SPEAKER_01: So it showed me, okay, I can really be who I ever, whoever I want to be.
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SPEAKER_01: And that comes back to that mold thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of people grow up and they feel like I gotta fit this mold, I gotta be cool, I gotta do what my friends are doing.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think it's allowed me the freedom to break that and just say, I can be who I want.
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SPEAKER_01: Authenticity.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I think to be a good actor, you have to be authentic.
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SPEAKER_01: You have to be authentic to the character, you have to be honest with yourself about what's going on inside, feelings you have.
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SPEAKER_01: And so it it requires you to do a lot of inner work, I think, and look at yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I think for me, yeah, it's broke broken that mold of needing to needing to be a certain way and stifle myself to, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that that's so interesting because you you would think that taking on these, let's call them, well, they're identities.
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SPEAKER_00: So by virtue of them not being your own identity, there's false identities.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you're taking on these identities, and it seems like it could go, you know, it could either help you discover who you are or create the opportunity to become confused about who you are and to sort of always be acting.
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SPEAKER_00: Did you had have you seen that, you know, in other people?
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SPEAKER_00: Have you how does that play out for people?
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SPEAKER_01: Definitely I've seen that.
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SPEAKER_01: And without making one right or wrong, but just what I've observed.
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SPEAKER_01: Some people approach acting as an escape from themselves.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe they have a lot of angst, a lot of uh feelings inside that they haven't processed, and they see acting as an opportunity to escape that and become someone else.
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SPEAKER_01: And uh for that, I think I've seen people more so lose themselves in it, get confused about uh who they are, who the character is, uh and it blurs a little more.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think when you uh are seeing acting as an opportunity to to to almost accentuate what's going on inside rather than escape it, uh but to to express it, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Then uh you're staying connected, you and the character are are staying connected, and so uh you you kind of realize, okay, I I am this character, but at the same time I can connect to it or I can detach from it.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think it gives you that power over versus the character having the power over you.
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SPEAKER_00: That is fascinating because what you're really saying is that every aspect of another person or or all the people is within you, like everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, and that is incredible, exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: Because you know, it's almost like if you can live your life that way, you know, really receiving what another person is feeling and allowing it to resonate in you and connecting on that level, like what an amazing world that would be, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Exactly, you know, and I want to choose to be free.
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SPEAKER_01: So I if I can choose who I want to be, I'm gonna choose freedom.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna choose to live my life the way I want, not to live in someone else's lines.
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SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: That that's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: Has has there been a cost to you of that?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: The cost is embarrassment, maybe sometimes or cringe.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's a big buzzword online, is like, oh, it's so cringy.
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SPEAKER_01: It's so cringe.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think if you can be cringe and not care, that's what that's what leads you to finding freedom and finding authenticity for yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: So I would say there's not been any negative downsides to being weird, being goofy online, and just talking about things and just speaking your truth.
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SPEAKER_01: People people like that.
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SPEAKER_01: That's charming.
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SPEAKER_00: It's charming.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's not to say that that's not to say that, like, oh, I have it all figured out, because I definitely get embarrassed a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: And and I think that's that's part of the path of an actor, is just learning to live with embarrassment.
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SPEAKER_01: And goofy and humiliated, and but you realize you survive, you know, it's not it's not life or death, you know what you do like it it is sometimes, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Especially I'm imagining on stage.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I mean that's like the ultimate training ground for yeah, yeah, and yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So how has your your spiritual development uh come about?
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SPEAKER_00: Like is it tied to acting or is it just tied to laser's inner life or are they inseparable?
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SPEAKER_01: Inseparable.
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SPEAKER_01: I I think of I feel acting is really a purpose of mine.
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SPEAKER_01: It's it's an again another way to express myself.
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I don't think I would ever want to stop acting.
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SPEAKER_01: Even if I went into a different career, which I don't see myself doing, I always want to be acting because yeah, it gives me an opportunity to go and do the inner work and stay present with myself, not check out.
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SPEAKER_01: You have to be present to be an actor.
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SPEAKER_01: So I I see it as definitely a part of my spiritual life.
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SPEAKER_00: So is that what spirituality means to you?
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SPEAKER_00: Is presence?
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SPEAKER_01: I'd say that's an aspect of it.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think that probably answers the whole picture of it.
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SPEAKER_01: Presence is a big part of it though.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean what do you I mean this podcast, right, is called Alive and Kicking.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's about uh there's another part in there, waking up, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Something about waking up, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So waking up to your consciousness requires you to be present and honest.
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SPEAKER_01: What do you what do you think?
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's such a big question.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, what is spirituality?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I mean, I guess there's you know, what what is spirituality is a different question than what is spirituality to you, or how would how is your spirituality expressed, you know?
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SPEAKER_00: So um, because I feel like it like it's such a big, it's such a big topic, you know, and it's so different for everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess the the uh how I would define spirituality is a connection with something beyond the five senses.
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SPEAKER_00: Something, um, you know, to me, it's about seeking um a greater understanding of my beingness as a child of God and how how I can draw closer to that I that ideal.
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SPEAKER_00: That's my current spiritual path.
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SPEAKER_00: But it hasn't always been that.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, some sometimes it's like you said, it's like knowing who you are it just on this earthly plane, and then the the spirit nature of it is something beyond that.
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SPEAKER_00: So what is it to you?
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SPEAKER_01: I uh really like how you put that uh beyond the five sentence senses.
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SPEAKER_01: For me, I was gonna say something sort of along the lines of uh being uh embodied, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And also I think uh I think being feeling that uh it's hard to explain it, but like that feeling of connection with God, I I think uh uh it's very common for a lot of people today to be disconnected and and you know we have these devices and not to make this the enemy, but uh I think that there's a lot of things that are are taking uh taking from our our innate uh intuitive gifts.
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SPEAKER_01: And we end up disconnected, we end up uh depressed, lonely, and uh for me uh spirituality is a connection, it's like a web, it's like fashion.
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SPEAKER_01: And and we're all part of that web, whether that's like at the soul level.
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SPEAKER_01: Cause like you said, I like how you said we're children of God.
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SPEAKER_01: So if we're all children of God, we're all connected through God.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think just being awake to that.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I really like though what you said about being beyond the five senses.
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SPEAKER_01: There's like a sixth sense of I can't quite explain it or put words to it, but yeah, that there's like I don't I don't think I've fully formed even my opinion on that.
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SPEAKER_01: What is spirituality to me?
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SPEAKER_01: But I love that question.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have to contemplate that more.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, because I feel like it's always changing, it and perhaps it should be.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, it's your understanding of quote unquote reality beyond the reality of our daily lives, like it maybe it should be changing and growing with us.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I know mine has changed an awful lot, but I'm sure mine will change, you know, because I'm I'm so young, it's like yeah, got a lot more to learn.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So you mentioned something in addition to presence.
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SPEAKER_00: You you mentioned you mentioned purpose, and I'm wondering like, is purpose tied into this?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, if you pick up on exactly where I'm wanting to go.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, yes, I do think purpose is a big part of spirituality because I think living your purpose is what God intends for you.
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SPEAKER_01: So to me, living your purpose is living God's purpose for you.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: I've read a few books.
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SPEAKER_01: One of them that's coming to my mind is The Way of the Superior Man.
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SPEAKER_01: And that title gets a lot of people on edge because it sounds all, oh, you know, you have to be the superior alpha male, but it's really not about that at all.
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SPEAKER_01: He talks a lot about finding your purpose.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, the author, David Data, finding your purpose and living your purpose as the number one priority of life.
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SPEAKER_01: So I feel like I've adopted that mindset of my purpose comes first.
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SPEAKER_01: Whatever my purpose is, that's my first priority.
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SPEAKER_01: And everything else then will fall into place beautifully.
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SPEAKER_01: If you if you're living your purpose, everything that's meant to be kind of for you will come to you.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's like a form of manifestation.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's like an active manifestation.
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SPEAKER_00: I totally agree.
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SPEAKER_00: I totally agree with you.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that, first of all, it's such a gift to know what your purpose is, even if it's just in this moment.
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SPEAKER_00: Like in this moment, my purpose is to make the best peanut butter and jelly sandwich for my child that I possibly can.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, like our purpose doesn't necessarily have to be grandiose because intrinsic in the purpose is the reward.
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SPEAKER_00: Like being aligned with your purpose is its own reward.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: So this um totally, yeah.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: So this what I think that people don't realize is that when you are on purpose, the decisions are easy.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: They're just like, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense, that's a no, that's a yes, and everything, there's like this clarity around it that you don't have when you are outside of your purpose.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: So how did you go about finding your purpose?
25:31
SPEAKER_00: Because you're pretty young, like us, you know, like the younger years should be about exploring, you know, and experimentation and trying things on.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: So, how were you able to find your purpose at this young age?
25:46
SPEAKER_00: And we should say, how old are you?
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm 21.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: 21.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: So, and you are between your junior and senior year, is that right?
25:53
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, great question again.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: 10 out of 10 on these on these questions.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: You gotta take notes on if I ever interview someone.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: Um I think it comes back to again, my I had a good support system when I was young that encouraged me to try things, encouraged me to get out into the world.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: And my mom took me to travel different places.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: And because I was, even if I didn't realize it at the time, because I was in that Sedona spirituality way of looking at life, there was a lot of people that would give me little tidbits here and there.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: I would talk to them, and and these things baked into me, and even if it was a subconscious thing, it wasn't like I was walking around thinking about this quote this guy said, but it all gets in there.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: And and I think the subconscious is what does drive you probably more than even your conscious mind.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: So I think having that upbringing was helpful, and I think grateful to God that I found acting so young and that I was encouraged to follow my passions.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: I I think it really comes down to that because I think when we're kids, we kind of already we know like it's in us, God has put it in us, but I think unfortunately a lot of kids are stifled by their parents telling them they need to get a real job, telling them they need to fall into line, or maybe it's not their parents, maybe it's friends, whatever it is.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: But if you can encourage a child to follow their path, and that's not necessarily simple, you know, that then they will follow that path.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: I I feel like I kind of have just I mean my dad would always talk to me about God when I was young and praying to God, and I feel like I've always had God a part of me.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the biggest gift is just like to be able to give it to God and just say, Please guide me, right?
28:20
SPEAKER_01: Like I I can't figure it all out on my own.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: So please guide me.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: And then surrendering and then going.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: I think I think I kind of understood those concepts when I was young because my mom and dad taught me that.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: How how beautiful, you know.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I feel I just feel very grateful that I think my upbringing led me down this path.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
28:47
SPEAKER_00: I know it's like when I always was confused when um, you know, parents would introduce their children to something that they wanted to do.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: Let's say it's soccer or ice skating or art or softball or whatever it may be, you know, acting, warhammer, I don't know, all the things.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, and they maybe don't want to stick with it, you know, like they they want to quit.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: Like let's say playing piano.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: And a musical instrument requires a big period of learning before it becomes enjoyable.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: So it's it's hard for parents to know like what they should encourage their children to stick with or whether they should allow them to follow their whims, basically.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: And I was always of the whim variety.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like, you don't like it, it's not for you, move on, choose something else.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: But you know, I don't know.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's this is one of the ways in which it's so difficult to be a parent.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: Like you just don't know what the right thing to do is a lot of the time.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that reminds me of something.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: As a parent, it's so valuable to listen to your kid.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes you have to push them.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: For example, when I was young, I always talked to my mom about I want to be a singer.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: And she saw this local singing competition that I was talking about, and she signed me up without telling me, without asking me, right?
30:14
SPEAKER_01: She just did it.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: And then she told me, and I was like, nope, no, no, no, no, no.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: Not doing that.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm not doing that.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: And she's like, Yes, you are.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: You are, just try it, just try it.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: And she always used to say that, just try it.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: And even like with food, she was like, just try it.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: And like, now I have I have a huge appetite and palate of different foods.
30:34
SPEAKER_01: So she would, I think that's another thing is just encouraging your kid to try things.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes you gotta give them that little push.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: But I think she always made me feel safe with the push, you know.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: She never was like, I'm gonna push you, and then you have to figure it out.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: She's like, I'll be there to help, but I just want you to try this out.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: You're you're gonna be okay.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, I guess that'd be my advice to any parents is try to stay attuned to what are your kids talking about?
31:01
SPEAKER_01: Because they might even not fully know for themselves what they want yet.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: But if you can kind of pick up on the cues, try to push them there.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
31:11
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: So let's talk a little bit about your purpose.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like since we were since I last connected with you, your purpose has expanded uh quite a bit.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: So tell us about what's going on for you.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: So, right now, spending a lot of time posting on social media about fascia release.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, my mom is a mild fascia release therapist.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: So most of the principles that I talk about, I've I've learned from her.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: And about three years ago, my freshman year of college, my mom and I were in Joshua Tree actually, uh, over Easter weekend.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: She came out to visit and she was having some pain.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: I think it was in her upper trap.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, and she's like, why don't you just treat me for the fun of it?
32:03
SPEAKER_01: Let's just see if you kind of have any gifts.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, I or maybe I maybe I asked, I don't remember exactly, but I ended up treating her.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: And again, with the positive affirmation, she was like, Wow, you're such a natural, you're such a natural.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if she was lying or not, but it worked because it made me feel like good.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, let me let me learn more about this.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: So I would ask her questions about all of her 30 plus years of experience, and she started to teach me.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: And that summer I started to co-treat patients with her.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: I would learn from her.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: And so for three years, I've been learning, learning, and now about last year, I started posting about FASH online and developing a community, and now I've I've gotten a few videos go pretty viral with several million views, which is wild.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: And I have gone from 400 followers like five months ago, now I have 12 and a half thousand.
33:09
SPEAKER_01: So the growth has been pretty quick, which is exciting, and it's definitely encouraging to want to share more.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: So to me, I see it as an extension of my acting career.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: Um actually, interesting story.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: Why I want to act.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: When I was younger, it was I really wanted to be famous.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm not gonna lie.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: I wanted that sounded exciting, fame, and people would respect me and I would be important.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, I could tell all the haters, look, I did it.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: But when I was sophomore in high school, I kind of went through this month of depression.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: There's a few things that went on in my life.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: I had a close friend of mine uh actually commit suicide, and I also was just feeling a lot of shame at the time around feeling kind of fake with my friends.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: And so I had this really re-evaluation moment, and I came out of it asking myself the question well, why okay, why do I want to be an actor?
34:17
SPEAKER_01: I want to be more popular or like what what is that?
34:20
SPEAKER_01: What is that gonna get me?
34:21
SPEAKER_01: I felt very superficial, so it I I ended up, you know, it's often the most low moments that are are most formative.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: So I came out of it realizing, no, I want to be an actor because I want to help people, I want to heal people.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: And I've seen a few movies at the time I was going through a a some lady troubles as well with a girlfriend of mine around that time as well.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: And I I watched the movie Call Me by Your Name with Timothy Chalamet and Army Hammer, and something about that movie I think depicted just the struggle of heartbreak really well.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: And I I felt so connected to Timothy Chalamet's character, felt that, and I was like, wow, movies are powerful, right?
35:17
SPEAKER_01: They give the viewer emotional solace and connection.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: You feel seen, like okay, I'm not I'm not alone, and that was like an aha moment for me.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I want to be an actor because I want to heal people, I want people to feel seen.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: So now transitioning back to fascia, my mom has always been a healer, right?
35:40
SPEAKER_01: So to me, now fascia release is another facet of healing that I can provide.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: And I have had some close people in my life struggle with uh substance abuse, and I've seen them trying to make themselves feel okay with substances, you know, they don't know another way, they they have to go to that.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh and I don't blame them because I realize they're just trying to calm their own pain and and they weren't taught you know, breath work or fascia release or whatever meditation practice.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: And so for me, finding those natural holistic practices has been like a gold mine.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: It's like, wow, you can feel good and calm your anxiety.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: I used to be a super anxious person naturally, and I think the way God intended it.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: So that feels very important to me that I want to share that with people because I just think there's a lot, like even in college, there's so many people that are just drinking a lot, you know, and that's that's not a judgment.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people who drink, and it's a fun thing to drink every once in a while.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't think there's anything wrong with having a little drink here and there.
36:55
SPEAKER_01: But when it when it comes to calming your depression or anxiety with the substance, you're really masking it.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: You're not really treating the root of the cause.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I just want to help people realize there's natural, healthy ways to feel good or better about themselves.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's an important, it's a personal topic for me.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: Wow, wow, that's incredible.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh there's so much in that, like that I want to hear more about.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm wondering, you know, once you came to this realization that one you have a purpose, you have a passion, you might have some natural abilities that play into it, support it, and that you were willing to take a chance to express that because they seem like wildly divergent things, and you're bringing them together in such a natural way.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: And I'm wondering what the response has been to people around you.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, on social media, I've seen a lot of people commenting, wow, you're the first, this is the first video I've found that I feel like has really helped.
38:08
SPEAKER_01: Like I feel less pain.
38:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, even just a simple thing like that is like, okay, so uh it's real.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: I've treated my parents, both my parents, um, my girlfriend, friends of mine, close friends of mine, and seeing them brighten up.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: And and I mean, I I feel like I'm making a difference, which is that's what's inspiring, right?
38:31
SPEAKER_01: Is like, wow, I'm actually doing something here.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: And and then just getting the positive affirmations like from my mom is big because this is her work, her line of work.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: So when she tells me, Oh, the way you said that, I was right on the money.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: So I've got a lot of positive responses, which is such a blessing because if you were getting negative responses, it's it's it's easy to give up, want to give up.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'd say when I was in high school, I went through a big phase of negative responses.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh, it was a big, a big like with acting at least.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that that was very kind of you earlier.
39:09
SPEAKER_01: You said that you felt like my voice had such a lovely quality, but when I was going through puberty, there was a lot of cracking, a lot of roughness going on.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: And when I look back at those videos, it's like, geez, Louise.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: But if I had given up, you know, when my voice was cracking and there were kids coming up at school, like literally making fun of it.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think, you know, they weren't trying to be mean, but that was really hurtful at the time.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: And they'd be like, yeah, yeah.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, I know I sounded like that.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: I didn't mean to.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: If I had given up, then I wouldn't be here now.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: So I I think just finding those low moments, make sure you push through because then now you I feel like I'm at a high moment right now.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: It feels good, feels really good.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, this issue of pain in the body, it's it's so complex, but uh I have had a I had a four-year experience of severe chronic pain.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: And so I really um I really feel for people who are experiencing any kind of pain but chronic pain, especially.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: It just wears you down.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like it's very hard to raise into the spiritual, non-physical realm when you're so locked in a painful body and you can't think of anything but the pain.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: It's it's I I for at the time I thought this this must be serving a purpose for me because I am so in my body.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: I can't get out of my body.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I could benefit from getting out of my body to get away from the the pain, but it wouldn't let me.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: And um, and then and then and then I it was resolved.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: But I know that your mom also, I I was, I have read her book, her most recent book, and she has such an understanding of pain as a spiritual uh not a not gonna say a problem, but a spiritual insight waiting to drop in.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: So I'm wondering what is your view and feeling on the connection between the physical and the spiritual.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes, totally.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: I think they're connected.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: I think being embodied is like I was talking about earlier, a big part of my spirituality, because I think a lot of people I I used to be super uh stuck in my head, overthinking so much.
41:40
SPEAKER_01: And I just don't think you can be connected to hear God's messages, to hear the flow of your purpose, the flow of you know, the universal energy that's that's trying to flow through you when you're up in your head.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: You can't hear those messages as well because you you're almost blocking the listening by just trying to like figure everything out.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: I think, especially with AI today, we're in a society where we want to know everything and and we can if we want to look it up, but we found even with AI, well we're we still have problems.
42:14
SPEAKER_01: It's not like knowing everything fixes our problems and fixes our pain, right?
42:19
SPEAKER_01: So I believe coming into the the body is a huge aspect of well, it's essential to healing.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: So I think the mind, body, spirit, you gotta be embodied.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: And it's like this is the vessel that we are on this earth with.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: So when you said it's so hard to be in a spiritual place when you have these pains, that's so true.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: And it is such a struggle.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: When you have pains, you feel like I can't, this is that's your reality.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: I can't do anything, I can't ascend beyond this.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: But you you were touching on this.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: When you try to escape your body, it often doesn't let you, and the pain will just keep coming up and up.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: It's only when you can feel the pain and what the message is there, what the pain is trying to tell you, that it does go away.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: Because you've gotten that the purpose of it has been expressed.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: The pain wants to express itself.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's and it's almost like a it's almost like a metaphor, like or you know, it's like the opp whatever the opposite is of a metaphor that you know when you're experiencing this really intense pain, whether it's physical or emotional, the inclination is to run, escape in whatever way you can.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: But the only way to actually get through it is to go into it.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like fully.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: And I I know that that was my experience with physical pain, is when I could actually go.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Into the source of the pain was the only place that I could find even a little bit of relief, which is pretty crazy when you when you think about it.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: This inclination to run is really strong in us.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: And it's natural.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a survival response.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: We want to think pain is bad, right?
44:21
SPEAKER_01: We don't want pain.
44:22
SPEAKER_01: And if you are going through that, if any of the viewers are feeling pain, also give yourself some compassion and and don't be like, oh, I'm so stupid.
44:32
SPEAKER_01: I've been trying to run from it.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: Like, no, that that's just a form of judgment that that'll keep you kind of locked to it.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: But if you can just say, okay, yeah, it's natural, of course, I don't want this pain.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: Nobody wants the pain, but we realize when we go into it, then we can when he we can heal it.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: So I'm really curious about your quote unquote generation.
44:57
SPEAKER_00: I feel that your savviness, you, the collective you, your saviness around emotional intelligence is advancing us as a people by you know light years.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: And I'm wondering what is the spiritual intelligence of your generation?
45:21
SPEAKER_00: Like what's the zeitgeist around spirituality in your age group?
45:27
SPEAKER_01: I think a sensitivity, a general sensitivity, you know, or like an older generation might think, uh, oh, sensitivity sounds like weakness.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: But I think a lot of kids my age realize there's a lot of uh strength and beauty in a in the ability to be sensitive and uh feel things, you know, access your intuition, go out of your gut feeling.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: I even a lot of my friends kind of uh are weary of AI because I've seen I've seen uh a lot of people in the older generation rely on that AI now.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: And it's almost like it's almost like they're more addicted to the devices than and it feels like a lot of the kids are because uh I don't know, maybe it's just they you know it's it's it is a cool thing, but I think I think we realize it's not gonna solve all of our problems, you know.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh we have to stay connected to humanity and to I don't know, maybe there's like a general fear of where could AI take us, or they're gonna overtake us eventually.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: And I think humanity is safer, it feels feels better.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: I I guess it's just an intuition thing.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of kids my age are more tapped into like wanting to cultivate their intuition.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that was encouraged probably in previous generations as much.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: And maybe that's due to social media, you know, people can talk all over the world, it's not as isolating.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: I I've also witnessed what you're talking about that um there it it seems like the older generation they've been caught somehow, they've been captured by AI, and it's hard to get people even to understand the consequences of it.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, like I mean I mean, I've had that problem because one AI is one of the things that I usually don't let things that humanity is going through like get me too agitated, but I do feel very strongly about AI.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: So um yes, I don't think people understand the ramifications of what they're doing, but it's really good to hear I have four kids and um you know they're I think they're aware of the dangers, and so I think that's it's generally true that they're more on top of things.
48:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's normal, like to be more on top of things when you're younger.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: But um so this brings me to the question.
48:12
SPEAKER_00: This I'm gonna I have a final question for you before we move on to the lightning round, and that is what do you feel hopeful about?
48:20
SPEAKER_01: I feel hopeful that this generation I think is very aware.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: I think sometimes hyper-aware, I think we see a lot on online, and sometimes it's frying to our nervous systems.
48:35
SPEAKER_01: But I think even there's an awareness to that.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: Like I gotta be careful, use it wisely.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: And I think that awareness ultimately, if we're all in a collective consciousness and and waking up to our spirituality more and more, that ultimately will call more light into this plane, into this world, and hopefully God will be more present with us, and who knows the possibilities, right?
49:05
SPEAKER_01: But I'm very hopeful that I think it's easy to see a lot of darkness and evil in this world, and and there is, but I don't feel an impending doom by that.
49:19
SPEAKER_01: I I don't feel, oh no, we're going downhill.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: I feel like eventually there's a point where I mean the light's always gonna win.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: So eventually there's a point where maybe it'll get so bad that the light will just have to come back stronger.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: So I just feel hopeful about that, you know.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm do you feel that that's you know the general consensus?
49:39
SPEAKER_01: I think I've had a lot of conversations with my friends about how scary some things feel right now.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: But then you look back at history and it's like there's been way worse times.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: There's been there's been some really rough times in history, and and we're we're pretty good right now, actually.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I just see more light coming into the world and more awareness.
50:05
SPEAKER_01: I think, I think a lot of it comes comes to awareness, you know, awareness of ourselves, awareness into our bodies, and the ability to feel things, be present, and not run away.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, running away is you're never gonna get where you want to go if you're running away.
50:23
SPEAKER_01: You gotta run, you gotta run towards the thing.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: That's so interesting.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: I I I think this, you know, this understanding that the body is the vehicle of the spirit in this particular experience that we're having here on earth, you know, it's like um, yeah, this pay attention to the gross, the you know, the fit the bones and the muscles, and then you know, kind of get into the finer, the finer details.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: So all right.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: So I've got some quick questions for you here in our lightning round.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: So wait, is the goal of this just answer immediately, right?
51:02
SPEAKER_00: So I call it the lightning round, but a lot of these are pretty deep questions that require more than just an off-the-cuff answer.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: So you'll see for yourself.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: Some, you know, whatever.
51:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
51:13
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember living any other lives?
51:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember it, but I'm open to the possibility of that being the case.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: I have a deep, I have a deep intuition that this is not my first life.
51:26
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, that's a controversial subject, but maybe I was just conditioned to think that because my my both my parents are kind of thinking that way.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I think it's why is that why is that controversial?
51:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I I go to a Christian college now, so no, so that's a big topic among Christians, you know, one life versus uh reincarnation.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: I guess that that's what I was thinking is like a lot of my friends, I've had conversations with them, and a lot of them are are very against the idea of reincarnation because how how does that how does that relate to heaven going to heaven if you're just coming back?
52:03
SPEAKER_00: So I have some very complicated ideas about that that I will say for another time.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: I would love to talk to you about that actually at some point because that's a topic I've been thinking about recently.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: Are you an animal person?
52:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, very much so, since I was young.
52:20
SPEAKER_01: Love animals.
52:21
SPEAKER_01: I always used to go out and catch lizards and snakes in my backyard in Arizona.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: My spirit animal is an orca.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: I love animals.
52:28
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I once convinced my cousin that I could speak to animals.
52:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh, but that wasn't true?
52:34
SPEAKER_01: I think I believed it.
52:35
SPEAKER_01: I think I did believe it.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: But no, it wasn't true.
52:40
SPEAKER_01: I gasped myself into thinking it was though.
52:43
SPEAKER_00: Not yet.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: Not yet, maybe.
52:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
52:46
SPEAKER_00: I've actually been noticing more communion with animals.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: I would I would say that this isn't my my animal lifetime, but I live like in the woods and I have noticed very different behavior from especially deer.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: They are really integrating into society.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: Like I'll I'll see them sitting on someone's lawn in places where you would not expect to see them.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: And I happened upon a mother who was nursing her baby right not even four feet from me.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, wow, that's a different experience.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: I've never seen that before.
53:28
SPEAKER_00: So it's like I am like seeing and experiencing new things with animals, and I wonder if things are changing.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: What is the best thing you've manifested into your life other than your loved ones?
53:40
SPEAKER_01: I'd say the ability to follow my passion of acting.
53:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm I'm living in LA right now.
53:46
SPEAKER_01: I have an agent and a manager.
53:47
SPEAKER_01: I actually just shot a movie three weeks ago.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: So I'm following that.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: Um that dream of mine from when I was a little kid.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: I love hearing that.
54:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, what makes you lose sleep, if anything?
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Realizing I have to wake up early the next morning.
54:07
SPEAKER_01: I can never fall asleep when I have to get up early.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: Um I know that's not what you meant, but that's funny though.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: If that's all there is, then that that's great, you know.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: I can't sleep before I travel.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: Like if I have to get up to catch flight, yeah, I'm not sleeping that night.
54:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I can't sleep on the plane either.
54:26
SPEAKER_00: I can't either.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and then my final question for you is what's your favorite spot on planet Earth?
54:34
SPEAKER_01: There's a few spots in the Oak Creek Canyon in Sedona that are really mystical that I love being being there.
54:41
SPEAKER_01: It feels very spiritual and nature or everywhere.
54:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably somewhere in the Oak Creek Canyon Sedona, which is actually really sad because it's it was just on fire.
54:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: I haven't been back um to see it.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: So on um, we'll see it soon, I guess.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay, did you bring a question for me today?
55:04
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I did.
55:06
SPEAKER_01: All right.
55:07
SPEAKER_01: So my question is out of all of the podcast interviews now that you've done and all the guests you've had on, what is the practice or insight that you implement into your daily life most often?
55:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay, there's two things.
55:26
SPEAKER_00: One, I want to say that something you said I know is gonna stick with me.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: You said it's not as if knowing everything has solved our problems.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm really gonna remember that because I agree because you know, I agree because the thinking mind is not our most powerful organ, you know, it's it's just the hardware, you know, the software is totally in the heart.
55:58
SPEAKER_00: So, but um, two things.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: One is um a young man, I think he was a little bit older than you when I talked to him.
56:07
SPEAKER_00: Um he told me that his spirituality is listening to people, and that changed me.
56:15
SPEAKER_00: I I think that listening was a decision I had to make.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's a decision we all have to make.
56:24
SPEAKER_00: If you want to become a listener, you have to decide to be a listener.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: And that that has changed, I mean, that has basically what's fueled my whole podcast passion is I want to hear what people have to say.
56:40
SPEAKER_00: You know, I want this is how I want to know um the expression of God in whoever I'm with, you know, I want to hear that stuff.
56:51
SPEAKER_00: And then there was a woman from Colombia that I talked to who said something that I think about all the time.
57:01
SPEAKER_00: And it was, and it was kind of like in relation to spirituality and sort of like not just modalities, but you know how some things in um spirituality can become very exclusive, like you sign up for the major, you know, like the the flashy breathwork course, or you know, you're doing a$25,000 weekend with Tony Robbins or whatever, you know.
57:32
SPEAKER_00: And she said to me, it if it's not for everybody, it's not for me.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, yes, I understand that.
57:46
SPEAKER_00: So these are things that have really changed me, you know, in such a major way.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad I asked you that because I am too.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: Great, great answers.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, laser, it has been so fun talking to you.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: I I feel like, you know, I mean, it kind of went the way I thought it was gonna go because I just think the world of you and I um I just love your light, and I'm so glad that you're out there sharing it.
58:17
SPEAKER_00: And we will definitely put your um social media links down below so people can see what you're up to because it's really special and it's really encouraging.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: And so thank you so much for being you and thank you so much for being with me.
58:31
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
58:32
SPEAKER_01: That is so sweet.
58:33
SPEAKER_01: You're so sweet.
58:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm so grateful that you had me on.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: And I just want to say like the way you started it, beautiful, like having us connect and breathe together and setting that intention of our higher selves to take control.
58:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that is genius.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
58:51
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that.
58:51
SPEAKER_01: It was just this was a beautiful experience.
58:53
SPEAKER_01: You asked such lovely, insightful questions.
58:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm very grateful that you had oh, thank you, laser.
58:58
SPEAKER_00: I hope to see you soon.
59:00
SPEAKER_01: Yes, me too.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
59:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay, bye for now.