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Flathead Fever: The 317-Inch Wonder · In Wheel Time Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast From the Lone Star Street Rod Association, state Run in Granbury, texas.
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  Speaker 1: This is your place for all things automotive the award-winning In Wheel Time Car Talk Show Coming up another hot water from this weekend's event.
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  Speaker 1: Later, jeff has the racing calendar, mars has this week in auto history.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get you caught up on stories making automotive news headlines headlines.
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  Speaker 1: We've missed one feature today and I am going to get to it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what it is uh, this week in our history, no sold car around sold car roundup and we're going to get that in in this segment, so I promise you're going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's important, all right, um, thanks for joining us today, along with mike out of this world, mars, we always need more jeff seacon, chief engineer david ainsley's here with us keeping us on the air.
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  Speaker 1: We hope I'm don armstrong glad you could join us.
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  Speaker 1: Who's our next guest, mr mars?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: no, I don't we have this beautiful orange 1932 ford coupe sitting here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it is owned by scott ingram, now.
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  Speaker 3: Not only does he own this beautiful orange 1932 Ford coupe sitting here, yes, and it is owned by Scott Ingram Now.
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  Speaker 3: Not only does he own this beautiful car, but he was one of the original seven founders of the Lone Star Street.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, he's old like us, scott, yeah, how are we still around?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but I quit eating junk food.
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  Speaker 4: I don't drink Cokes anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to take care of myself.
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  Speaker 4: I've got things to do.
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  Speaker 4: Do you drink whiskey?
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  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Drink beer.
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  Speaker 2: Gave it all up.
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  Speaker 2: Gave it all up.
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  Speaker 2: Gave it all up, chase wild women.
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  Speaker 4: I have too much fun living.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah I.
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  Speaker 4: I drive old-timey cars, I race cars.
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  Speaker 4: I race a dragster with a flathead.
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  Speaker 4: I fly old-timey airplanes fly helicopters.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have time to drink.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get high drinking.
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  Speaker 1: We want to be you.
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  Speaker 1: He looks this way.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, this man is 110.
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  Speaker 4: He looks like he's 70.
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  Speaker 4: That's it, have I got it Close?
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  Speaker 4: Just turned 78, 78.
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  Speaker 4: There you go yeah, well, congratulations and still, like I say, driving a nitro fuel front engine dragster, not not a cheating one of the engine in the back runging front engine so you can't see out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, old school, yeah, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: So how old is that car not to get sidetracked here?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it was a 59 chassis.
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  Speaker 4: We rebuilt about 15, 20 years ago and started with a smaller flathead and worked our way up into nitro.
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  Speaker 3: Still a flathead.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, hell yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing left is Ford in it.
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  Speaker 4: What's the compression ratio on that?
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  Speaker 4: Very little, because it's got a blower with overdrive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's the compression ratio inside that cylinder?
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  Speaker 4: No clue, no clue.
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  Speaker 4: Especially when you've got nitro.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know, all I can think of is pushing out head gaskets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we have a quick way to change gaskets, and I have custom-built gaskets for it, because regular ones at store-bought will not work in it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, because, I mean it's too much cylinder pressure and it's in.
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  Speaker 4: You know, flathead started out as 221 inches and then 239s, and then you know Mercs were 255s.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this one used to be 296, was large for a flathead, and then 304 was the number.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this one is a 317-inch flathead.
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  Speaker 4: Dang.
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  Speaker 4: It's good for one thing going down the quarter mile.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, yeah, and you still screw the spark plugs right in the top of the motor Right on the top of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of spark plugs do you use in that thing?
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  Speaker 4: Using Champions.
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  Speaker 4: I was using H10s for the longest time and I hate to say it, but NGKs seem to last longer yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: How often do you have to change those things?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, seemed to last longer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: How often do you have to change those things?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, every few runs, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It just does, because usually that nitrile eats the tips off of the spark plugs.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not running it real lean.
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  Speaker 4: I refuse to run it lean.
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  Speaker 4: I can make more horsepower On the Dyna.
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  Speaker 4: It was 554 horse out of a flathead.
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  Speaker 3: Out of a flathead.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my God, it's a very serious flathead and it's all home built, All home done.
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  Speaker 4: You know none.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what do you do to seat the valves in that thing, and how many times do you have to look at those valves?
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  Speaker 1: You hand seat them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hand seat them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no big deal.
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  Speaker 4: No big deal, Just put a little grit down in.
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  Speaker 4: You know it's empty, but I kept the can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, this is how you do it, and he'll show you Got the little stick, you know yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you reach the stems for the valves?
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  Speaker 4: on the side.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, you got to do it all.
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  Speaker 4: You got to pull the intake to get to the valves and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: It's a terrible design.
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  Speaker 1: It was the best thing in the world in 1932.
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  Speaker 4: Because, because at one time you could get to the valves, the lifters and all that stuff on the side of some.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking on a Chevrolet or an inline motor, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So this is not an inline.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, no, v8, it's a v8.
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  Speaker 4: Flathead yeah, v8, flat, with six exhaust, not eight, six.
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  Speaker 4: They sign me as the middle ones and people say that's a v6.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's not to count the spark plugs.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, design in 32 was state-of-the-art you know, and then you know, not so much today.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't born in 32, so somebody taught you all this stuff you learn it, and this is before the internet.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of a urine you know, you just learn it trial by error yeah yeah and uh, I've been messing with flatheads.
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  Speaker 4: I put a flathead in my first Model A when I was in high school back in the 60s, early 60s, and so I built a go-fast one back then leftover parts.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: How long have you had?
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  Speaker 4: that I think it's 57 years now, really yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously you've done some work to it.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh ground up twice.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, still the original body and most of the frame, all steel.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, beautiful steel body, uh, and uh, I've um, did you louver the hood?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and all the paint god, I love you I did.
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  Speaker 4: I did the paint From one band to another.
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  Speaker 4: That's really impressive that paint's probably 45 years old.
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  Speaker 4: It's the second paint job I did on it.
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  Speaker 3: How many miles have you put on this thing?
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  Speaker 4: About 350,000.
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  Speaker 3: Really so you drive it.
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  Speaker 4: I've been coast to coast, border to border.
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  Speaker 4: I've been into Canada and I went down to Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: When you're going across the bridge there's a sign in the middle that says entering Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: I did a 180 and drove back out.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good move.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was because I used to drive it everywhere all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I got pictures of deer in the back when I went deer hunting.
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  Speaker 4: I got pictures towing you know little four-wheel drive Jeep things going across the creek water over the running boards.
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  Speaker 2: I see you've got stickers on the windshield.
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  Speaker 2: Have you been to Hot Rod Tour?
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  Speaker 2: No, hot Rod Tour of Texas.
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  Speaker 3: No, oh, you should check that one out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you from?
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  Speaker 4: In between Burnett and Lampasas.
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  Speaker 1: Lampasas, texas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, aunt Maydell and Uncle Ernest, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know about?
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  Speaker 2: Not really, but yeah, that's not like hometown.
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  Speaker 1: None of us are see these people out here.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Aunt maydell and uncle ernest lived in land passes, retired, and they had some acreage.
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  Speaker 1: They're very rocky landscape oh yeah but uh, you know, they had a couple chickens, couple of cows, uh, some goats, and then they had a worm farm inside this stinky building for me that was very yeah yeah, yeah, and you'd go out there and there's just be boxes of dirt and they take the food, sprinkle it across there and all of a sudden the dirt would start moving and about five minutes later all the food was gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, they have them trained.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she's worse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's peat farms up in Michigan, yeah it's, it's interesting, interesting so uh, this particular car, does it have the?
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  Speaker 4: flathead in it.
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  Speaker 4: No, had flathead first and uh, I was uh trying to make more of a street car.
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  Speaker 4: And back in the let me think probably 70 or so, and uh, uh put a fe motor in it, big block, ford 406, four-speed.
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  Speaker 4: You know we were all into go-fast back then.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I understand that one of the reasons that so many that's just what I'm told so many of those cars have Chevy engines is because the Ford big V8s like you've got in there.
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  Speaker 1: You had to do some manipulating to get it in there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, firewall's cut and it's got room to put a blower belt because I've got a blower one these days going to go on it.
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  Speaker 4: But it's now got a genuine 427 forward in it with the cross-bolted blains go fast what year is that thing?
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  Speaker 1: 60s.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say 427.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, real 427 he's got the chains on the block to the frame to keep the torque absolutely yeah, and believe it or not, that works, oh it does we used to do?
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  Speaker 4: that and everybody go.
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  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: yeah, trust me, it works trying to get it not to pop out of the hood.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I would tell people it's, he keeps somebody from stealing it.
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  Speaker 4: That too, yeah, yeah, well, no, it's just been a wonderful car.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, I used it was.
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  Speaker 4: I had that in a welding rig and I drove it everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Back then nobody used their cars.
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  Speaker 4: I used it for everything you know, to sort of make a point Absolutely, and I made the first 32 Nationals in a row in SRA Nats.
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  Speaker 4: I went the first one in Peoria in a Model A with a Chrysler in it.
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  Speaker 1: Peoria, illinois, yeah, illinois is way up there Illinois, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was like in 1970 was unheard of.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody went past their city limits.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they read about this thing called Street Rod Nationals.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to try it in rod and custom.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to go.
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  Speaker 4: And so I tried to get another person to bring another car.
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  Speaker 4: They wouldn't go.
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  Speaker 4: And then I drove up there and a buddy of mine we had a hundred dollars a piece we did the whole trip with.
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  Speaker 4: I left the top at home, fenderless, running slicks.
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  Speaker 4: You know it was a hot rod.
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  Speaker 3: It was around town and shocks were ugly and so it didn't have any shocks.
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  Speaker 4: Now, after that trip, I know we're no longer run slicks on the street and I have shocks you know good, learn this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly how much fun You've had.
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  Speaker 1: More fun in that car than a barrel of monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people.
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  Speaker 4: And I've towed my other.
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  Speaker 4: I've got another 32 with a blown flathead.
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  Speaker 4: I've towed it flat, towed it behind this.
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  Speaker 4: When we were racing it I came to the 32nd one of these things towing it.
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  Speaker 4: You know 32, towing a 32, you know, to the 32nd LSSR.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly Makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but isn't it really in the long run of the whole thing?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it really about the people that?
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  Speaker 4: you just oh yeah, I've got people here I've talked to yesterday and today that you know.
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  Speaker 4: I've known them for 50 years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's always good to get together with the old hot rodders and tell lies.
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  Speaker 4: And now we know you yeah, there you go, yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: So somebody said to ask you how much you paid for the original car that you started with.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: It was $195.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God $195.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and, like I say, part of the frame is still there and the body, main part of the body, is still there.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a family member that you'd never get rid of.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll give it away before I sell it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not for sale.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking for an Orange 32.
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  Speaker 1: Well, scott it's great to talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh cool, really appreciate you bringing the car by for us to see and hopefully we'll see you again in the near future, I'll be around.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not done.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, take care.
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  Speaker 4: Just, I'll be around.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not done.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, take care.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you Just ahead.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Jeff has the racing calendar Mars has this week in auto history.
• 11:27
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  Speaker 1: Time now for the racing calendar, and Jeff Zekin has that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, not much is going on, except for a couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams are off for the summer break, for Father's Day and all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But we do have Xfinity is racing in Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: That would be today for the Xfinity Series, and then tomorrow the big boys, the NASCAR Cup guys are also in Mexico City, NHRA's off, IMSA's off, F1's off and the open wheel guys for Indy are off as well this week.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, that's it All right.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much Now this week in auto history, Mr Mars.
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  Speaker 3: Got a few quick, interesting stories that came up this week in auto history.
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  Speaker 3: Mr mars got a few quick, uh, interesting stories that came up this week in auto history.
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  Speaker 3: In 1948, ferdinand ferry, porsche he produced his first production porsche, the number 356 slash number one, completed its main first maiden drive.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lightweight rear engine with a volkswagen sourced flat ford, but this is the prototype that laid the foundation for the all of forces for Porsche's brand identity coming forward with the aluminum body and, uh, the hot rod engine.
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  Speaker 3: Also this week, in 1934, donald Healy, all right, wins the Alpine trial.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: Now this guy is a British engineer and a rally driver and he won the international Alpine drive driving and Invicta.
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  Speaker 3: Now, this is a grueling mountain rally that takes a lot of nerve on the driver's part to be able to go across the rough terrain.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what makes this is because this is Healy that goes on to become part of the Austin-Healy line.
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  Speaker 3: He is the Healy in that.
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  Speaker 3: Also this week in 1955, le Mans, there was a disaster during the race.
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  Speaker 3: During the 24 hours, lemans killed 83 spectators.
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  Speaker 3: Now this, uh, it was originally started colliding with the car and Austin Healy and it caused the debris from the wreck to be thrown up into the crowd and it led to a lot of reforms and car construction and crowd control at the races.
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  Speaker 3: Also this week, in 1970, porsche wins the first 24-hour Le Mans that it ever won.
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  Speaker 3: So it goes on to win a lot more.
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  Speaker 3: But the interesting thing about this, it was a rain-soaked race and in the flat-12 engine and revolutionary aerodynamics of the 914-7 transform porsche into the class class winner in uh 24 hours of lamont.
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  Speaker 2: Now to interrupt you, mike don sent me into some information on that.
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  Speaker 2: Cadillac is on the pole for this year's first and second.
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  Speaker 2: First and second for 24 hours of lamont.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, continue please so germany's nuremberg hosted its first official race this week in 1926.
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  Speaker 3: Now it was in the mountains and it was created a very challenging circuit and it caused a loss because of all the elevation changes in the curves.
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  Speaker 3: And it was won by a driver in a Mercedes Benz and it became one of the world's most iconic and demanding tracks.
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  Speaker 3: It was nicknamed the green hell.
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  Speaker 3: Now, on this week also in 1969, the four gt secured its fourth consecutive win at 24 hours of lamans, with jackie with a yx and jackie ie oliver piloting the number six car.
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  Speaker 3: Now jackiex protested the dangerous lamon start.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when the race started he walked to his car.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody else is running, he walked, but they still won the race.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: That was, this week in automotive history, perfect.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, sir, and before we get too far, I want to thank Rick Neely.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Lone Star Street Rod Association has been most gracious and invited us up and has babysat us the entire time we've been here.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you very much, rick.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: We really appreciate it, along with all the members of Lone Star Street Rod Association.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I think we're going to do now the Hemings Sold Car Roundup.
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  Speaker 1: Guess the price.
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  Speaker 1: Give me just a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: He said give me just a moment.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: No, you can keep talking, I just have to get it out of there.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: You need to define what you're doing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: In other words, wait on him, but don't wait, yeah, wait on me but go ahead.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, but don't wait.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I can't see with the light.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: The sun is murder out there.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: It is, it is, I screamed.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: So we had our roundup this week and, of course, the first one that I wanted to pick was a 1968 chevrolet corvette.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Now I dug down a little bit deeper than I normally do because I thought, hmm, it's a 427 435 horse v8.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a big block and it's got tri-power on it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, you ready now?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, you, what were you going to tell me that you're ready?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I'm ready, he's ready.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So guess what this car sold for.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: This is what drew my eye.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: What do you think that this car sold for?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: 23, 23 I'm gonna say 63 oh okay, david, do you want to join in on this?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I'm here okay, so what do you think?
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: A 68 chevrolet corvette convertible looks all stock, probably restored 72, but it's it's a 427, 435 horse which is a real combination.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: 72.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: 72.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: It's over 100, probably it's $110,250.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: And that's what it's sold for.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: That's what it's sold for.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I was looking to buy some of it, Okay the next car up.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: This is for Jeff 1992 Cadillac Broham.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I think they call it a Brom, but we like to call it the Broham, broham and it's 72?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: 92 Cadillac Broham.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It's got the wire wheel covers on it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: It looks clean.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It has 61,000 miles on it, so that kind of drew my attention.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: As far as, why is it selling for this price?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: What do you think that that's sold for Mars?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: For me $8,000.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: $8,000.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Jeff.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I'll go $12,000.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: $12,000.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: David $13,500.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: $14,963.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: You go, david.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So when we're looking at cars for the Hot Rod Tour, this would be it, because the seats are like they're velvet, oh yeah, and they're like 18 inches thick.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are, and it's got air conditioning and that thing will go down the highway, lumber down the highway.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: That would be it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Float, float down the highway and you get about 12 miles to the gallon.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I'm all in Next up 1965 Ford Mustang convertible, white but looks like a black interior.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But I'm not sure about that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: 41,000 miles Now whether those are the original miles or not, I don't know, but it's got the stock wheel covers on it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I remember when those wheel covers came out we went ooh, look at those.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Those look like real mags on there.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: How much Gosh 65 Ford Mustang convertible, 28.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: 21.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Jeff's 21.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: David.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to have to go 28.5.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: $22,050.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: $22,000, basically, wow.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Next up, since we had a Pontiac on here earlier.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that, here's a 1977 pontiac, formula 400 you can tell by the hood um, it's got a few miles on it but not bad.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: It's a 6.6 liter, just like the one that we had on the show here.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Um 18 300 miles on the car.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: It looks completely stock.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: What do you think that that white Pontiac Formula from 1977 would go for with the 6.6 liter in it?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: 23.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: 23.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Mr Mars.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I was going to go 32.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: 32.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: , 27.5.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: 37.8.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Not bad for that few miles.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: We're not very good at this, are we?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: No, I can't see it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Some of you are right on.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to classics.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I think that there may be one or two of these here today in Granbury, 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air, Two-door, yellow, with a white top.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Can't tell the interior.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It's got custom wheels on it, probably been restored, because they're touting that it has 2,100 miles on it, so I would imagine that that's probably from the restoration.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: It has a 283 V8 in it, 57 Chevy Bel Air.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Probably a power glide Hard top you go first.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: No, it's not a hard top, I don't know, I can't tell yeah it's.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It's a post.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, postcard okay, so how much?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: clean 26, 35 22.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: david wins 34, 9, 13.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: now let's get back to the pick-em-up trucks Square body Square body 1977 Chevrolet C10.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: 454 cubic inch with an automatic transmission.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So this would be considered a Restomod square body.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's got some Krager SS's on it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It's gray, I can't tell the color of the interior.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: But guess what?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: That would sell for 14, 28, 18.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Mr mars wins 26.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: The square bodies are hot right now.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: They are yep.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Let me look at my time here and see where we are, because I got a couple of more.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, we got time.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Good, got a couple of more here.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Um, here's one let me just say this when I give you the description, there's something wrong with it a 1969 oldsmobile tornado front wheel drive.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Remember, it's the beginning of front wheel drives yeah when I assume that it's got a v8 in it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not that well schooled in these 69 oldsmobile tornado.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: What would that sell for now?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I prefaced it by saying it apparently needs some work.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: The body looks straight, but it looks stock $3,000.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: $8,000.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: $12,000.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: $13,050.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Good job, Michael, you own it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It is yours, you bought it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And our last one of the day.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: No, I got two more.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Last one here.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: This goes along with the vehicles that are here today.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Last one here this goes along with the vehicles that are here today A 1948 Ford with a 350 Chevy with an automatic transmission.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I think that one's here in the show.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Might be.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 48.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Ford.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, so post-World War II, but they hadn't updated much.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So 48 Ford 350 Chevy in it, automatic transmission.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So 48 Ford 350 Chevy in it, automatic transmission, black, custom grille, custom wheels or aftermarket wheels how much?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: 17.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: 17.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Mars 28.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: David 25.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: 35.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Seven.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: So I got a feeling that's a pretty nice car.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something we're not seeing.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And finally I've got the car from.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Mr Mars.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeehaw, oh oh, look at that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: This is a 1958, 1958 messerschmitt.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you know what a messerschmitt is?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's that we saw one at an auction.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, several years ago, this one here has the optional clear bubble top on.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It is a two-door freak of nature, a 58 I kid you not I'm going to cover up the price there.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It is right there, can you see it?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: now, yeah, yeah, it's a little three-wheeler, isn't it?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: uh-huh, well, I think it may have four, but the two back ones are close together.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Anyway, whatever to doley yeah what is the money?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: uh, the money, what is?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the money Deutschmarks.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I would do 12,000 Deutschmarks, 6,000.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: 15.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Mr Mars wins not only the spot-on price, but he wins the car.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And he's going to get rid of the truck and this is going to become the new in-wheel time machine, the backseat is going to be full, yeah with a motorcycle motor in it $15,908 is what it went for Nice, nice, nice.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: So if you want to get into Messerschmitts, bring it to shows like this and get laughed at a lot.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: What is that thing?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It's a Messerschmitt.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Well, kristen said they're going to have a Vespa show, but she didn't say motorcycles or Vespa cars.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: In the fall, there may be some more stuff there.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Mike?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I think that you need to champion the cause for us to come back up and do a Vespa show.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And then we're going to do the Corvette show in October.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe put it back to back.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Just saying we could leave all the equipment set up, just leave it out here, absolutely.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Shoot us an email.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: The address.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Here is info at inwheeltimecom, and we're wrapping up today's show and I have to tell you that this show kind of surprised me this year.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And you're going to ask why do you think that, don, we're waiting?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: We're waiting.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't really say.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: First of all, we got to the hotel at about I don't know 3.30, 4 o'clock yesterday afternoon and there weren't a whole lot of people, weren't a whole lot of cars in the parking lot.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Then we go to dinner last night at 6.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Over here at veto's, veto corleone, and there weren't a whole lot of people in there.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was moderately.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking what's going on?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: No people show up.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Then we come this morning and now people are having a hard time trying to find a place to park.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: We're fenders.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: We're fenders to bumpers exactly the parking down there and they're making a parking lot on the other side of the playground.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Last year it was fairly empty over here, Now it's kind of full.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I think everybody and his mother is here and you're missing out.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: You've got food trucks, you've got all kinds of stuff going on.
• 27:42
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• 28:50
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• 28:52
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• 28:57
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• 29:03
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• 29:06
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• 29:28
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• 29:31
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• 29:32
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• 29:44
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• 29:46
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• 29:54
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• 29:57
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• 30:02
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• 30:19
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