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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy whose contract says he only gets two
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  Speaker 1: series until September. J P. Welcome BNA Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: on a Monday. We are Pete Frisco free today. It's
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  Speaker 1: a ratings bonanza on this Monday afternoon. J P, Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, and a busy show ahead preseason week one review.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost to the Cleveland Browns Saturday night at
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  Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field. We'll hear from senior writer
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  Speaker 1: John ozeran studio in about fifteen minutes to recap practice
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  Speaker 1: number fourteen of training camp. Today, some pants issues, it
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  Speaker 1: sounded like. NFL Films and ESPN producer and analyst Greg Cosell.
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  Speaker 1: We'll join us at five o'clock and talk quarterback play
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and a few other rookie debuts in preseason
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  Speaker 1: week one around the NFL. Social media questions are rolling
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  Speaker 1: in today without Pete here, and we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League. Tony, good afternoon, Good afternoon. Who are
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  Speaker 1: you texting right now? What is going on? We're doing
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  Speaker 1: a radio show Tony. Uh, what is going on? I'm
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  Speaker 1: texting our good friend Jeff Wagman. Okay, well that's no,
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  Speaker 1: it's really not Sorry, sorry, welcome, welcome to radio here.
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  Speaker 1: We are, well listen with no Pete I whoever? I want?
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  Speaker 1: I guess so, yeah, Pezze in Minnesota, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: covering the vikings today. Poor excuse for first preseason games.
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  Speaker 1: The CBS sent an entire television set table like we
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  Speaker 1: have here in studio, and like what an anchor and
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  Speaker 1: another guy and him and they're doing him live from camp.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do that here. I mean, what are we
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  Speaker 1: doing Pete? Does anyone really want to see Pete on TV? No?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you. That's what's happening. Though. Um,
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  Speaker 1: how you feeling after Saturday night about the Jaguars squad
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  Speaker 1: in Tony? You know, not much different than I did before.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the first preseason game. What I mean,
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  Speaker 1: typical overreaction. It would have happened the other way too,
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  Speaker 1: if they come out and lit it up. Here we go,
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  Speaker 1: book tickets in l A. We're going to the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: and now they had a bad game and it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're not gonna win a football game this year. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, it's somewhere between. Um. The panic button here
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  Speaker 1: is that every everybody has their hand on it at
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  Speaker 1: this time every single year anyway, it's ready to click it.
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  Speaker 1: The part of that is because it's been this team
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  Speaker 1: has struggled for a long time outside seen so you
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  Speaker 1: you have a hard time of having being optimistic and
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  Speaker 1: you want to see results. But it's the first preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: You can't overreact. Um, was it good? No, it wasn't good.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely positive thing though, but it was it where you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be, not guarantee. Herban was frustrated. Probably sounded
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  Speaker 1: like you have your first to day, you have your
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  Speaker 1: first offense, first defense, you're playing against backups, and you're
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  Speaker 1: not being you're not being productive. Forgot the wins or
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  Speaker 1: losses of the overall game. I'm just looking at that
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  Speaker 1: first quarter, quarter and a half. You get your starters
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  Speaker 1: out there, you're not productive. Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence on
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  Speaker 1: his backside play one, Yeah, I mean that's frustrating. Um. Defensively,
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  Speaker 1: first drive to go up and go right down the
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  Speaker 1: field kicking field goal, frustrating is it panic time? No.
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  Speaker 1: But you know the first thing that came to mind
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  Speaker 1: after that game when I woke up Sunday morning. You
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  Speaker 1: ever see Smoking in the Bandit? The original? Y have
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  Speaker 1: a long way to go in a short time to
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  Speaker 1: get there? The snowman that the snowman was, wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: the the guy driving the the big ragg to go
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  Speaker 1: pick up the illegal Coors light and tante with the bandit?
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  Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds, Sally Fields great one of the number first
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  Speaker 1: of all, maybe wh the one of the great all
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  Speaker 1: time movies. I mean there's it's a great movie. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Jackie Glees, Yeah, good stuff. Hey let's get to Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But that's my whole point was a long way to go,
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  Speaker 1: but a short time to get there. Because this team
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  Speaker 1: has a long way to go. We all knew that
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  Speaker 1: they won one game last year JP well losing skid
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  Speaker 1: right now, you don't fix it overnight, and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: are they going to be better against Houston? And we
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  Speaker 1: saw yesterday absolutely absolutely what you wanted because you said
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  Speaker 1: there's because that's like overall, were there positives? Yes, plenty?
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  Speaker 1: Okay for Lawrence, I want to see Canna translate he's
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  Speaker 1: done on the practice field he did in college first
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  Speaker 1: preseason game. Positive. Yes, he can do it. He can
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  Speaker 1: make Did he hold it a few times too long? Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Did he maybe not not trust it right away? Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Did he make some big time throws? Did he stand
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  Speaker 1: in the pocket? Was he unaffected after getting drilled the
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  Speaker 1: first play of the game. Yes, positives all good things.
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  Speaker 1: Does he have a rocket of a right arm? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Do I I would like to see, you know, no
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  Speaker 1: one else wants to see it, and it's probably not
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  Speaker 1: a good thing. Would be fun to on the zone
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  Speaker 1: read on fourth to one. I think he could have
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  Speaker 1: kept it, but maybe the staff told him not to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: don't be running over the football. I think. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it would be fun to see. But so that's a positive.
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  Speaker 1: You know. James Robinson look good. Three positive the run defense,
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  Speaker 1: run defense dominant. Davon Hamilton's positive physical, good player positives
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  Speaker 1: in the second thought Zan had two good pass against
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  Speaker 1: the backup tackle. Positive stuff. Come on, some good contested
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  Speaker 1: balls out there. C J. Henderson, good to see him
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  Speaker 1: on the field. I know everyone's been down on CJ
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  Speaker 1: because off the field issues whatever they are. But here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. We're better with c J. When he's healthy,
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  Speaker 1: he's on the field, He's a good player. He might
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  Speaker 1: be your overall most talented corner. I think that good
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  Speaker 1: good player, um Ray, Sean Jenkins, positive, flying around, energy,
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  Speaker 1: guys come here, guys, Logan Cook, booming, the weapon, the weapon,
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  Speaker 1: all positive. So there's there's positives out there. Let's hear
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  Speaker 1: from Urban Meyer. He spoke before practice today. You know
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  Speaker 1: it is against his nature to hold things back in
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  Speaker 1: a football game. He wants starters out there a little longer.
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  Speaker 1: And this idea of having to hold back things in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason in terms of scheme, it's all new to
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  Speaker 1: Urban so much. I hear, we can't show this, can't
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  Speaker 1: show this, can't show this cancer. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to get into it, but I want to go
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  Speaker 1: some tempo on. I'm used to some certain things. You'll
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  Speaker 1: see more of it as we get moving forward. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want what you saw is not what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be, and I gotta get it. We're right out
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  Speaker 1: of the shooting. I think sometimes coaches, we can't we
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  Speaker 1: can't show this, we can't show that. I'm like, why
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  Speaker 1: tell me, explain to me why you know so paranoia
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  Speaker 1: which I'm the worst at up and not Surban Myer.
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  Speaker 1: Paranoia was the second question there, Tony, Why Tony why?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, me and Herb, I'm aligned with you.
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  Speaker 1: He head coach me and you feel the same way
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  Speaker 1: about this. It's ridiculous. Coaches are paranoid for no reason.
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  Speaker 1: He's exactly why. I mean, right, I had that conversation
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  Speaker 1: with their NFL coach. He's saying, oh, we can't do that,
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  Speaker 1: and I asked the same thing, why, Oh really, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? Show anything already? I can tell you what
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  Speaker 1: you're going to do as a coach because I know
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  Speaker 1: what your history has been. Like, what are you hiding?
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  Speaker 1: There's no secrets. It's football, and maybe there's nuances here there,
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  Speaker 1: but guess what after week one everyone's I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you, I'm with Urban there, I mean, I agree
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  Speaker 1: a thousand percent with Urban. The example that hit on
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  Speaker 1: earlier today on Jaguar's dot com an article was Travis
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  Speaker 1: et and he played thirteen snaps, ran the ball once,
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  Speaker 1: and was targeted another time. That was it. And we've
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  Speaker 1: all always heard this offseason the Et is gonna a weapon.
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  Speaker 1: He's lining up here, he's doing this, He's a motion.
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  Speaker 1: He's the guy in offensive weapon. They didn't show any
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  Speaker 1: of that because I guess they don't want the other
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  Speaker 1: teams to see what they might do with him. Right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's the other argument. You've told them that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, there's always so many places on the field.
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  Speaker 1: He can line up, run out in the wishbone, everybody
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  Speaker 1: at that said position. Let's say he's at the slot.
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  Speaker 1: There's only a handful of things he's going to do
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  Speaker 1: from this lot. I mean, so I'm not saying show everything,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what, at some point, this young team,
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  Speaker 1: they better practice what they want to do. Right then.
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  Speaker 1: That's Urban's point too, is that I'd love to see
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback more. He said, we need reps for him.
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  Speaker 1: He's a young quarterback. I agree with Urban. I think
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  Speaker 1: we've gone too far. You know who can veto all
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  Speaker 1: that though, is Urban and he can't. He can We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's been leaning on his coordinators in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL experience, to coaches to you know, give him some
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  Speaker 1: advice on these matters. Well, I'm I'm of the more
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  Speaker 1: old school thought, like a Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce arians.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you saw Hall of Fame quarterbacks or potentially
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterbacks at the very minimum, playing in
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  Speaker 1: the first preseason game. Tom Brady, you think he needs reps? JP?
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  Speaker 1: He thinks you know what. You want to know why
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  Speaker 1: he's great because he thinks he does he needs He
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  Speaker 1: thinks he thinks he does. He wants to get better.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick mahomesh Andy Reid said, I want him reps. So
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  Speaker 1: he's behind this new offensive line, you know, go down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Bill Belichick, we know what he's gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys are playing. Mike Tomlin, Hey, guys need reps.
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  Speaker 1: The game of football is a game of repetition. You
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  Speaker 1: go and forget football? When did you let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you a question? JP? And Joe chime in here. Joe's
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  Speaker 1: producing as we have no Pete Prisco. Can someone tell
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  Speaker 1: me one thing that you get better at in life
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  Speaker 1: without practicing? Mhmm. I can't. Off the top of my head. No,
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  Speaker 1: I can't either because in my experience, Joe, no, my history, Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to get better at something, let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you one formula that doesn't work, don't practice it. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get better at offensive line, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to practice it. I want to get better blocking.
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  Speaker 1: I need better technique and my past sets for the
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  Speaker 1: wide rusher. But I'm not gonna practice it. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go work on It'll just I'm gonna mental REPI mental rep.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I have a quarterback. I've never played
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL before. I want to be the best ever.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't need a preseason. I don't need practice.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just do it when it counts. Yeah, when it
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  Speaker 1: counts is too late. Guess what you have to prepare
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  Speaker 1: so that when it does count you can do it.
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  Speaker 1: And so this whole thing of resting guys and not
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  Speaker 1: playing guys and not showing stuff and not working on
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  Speaker 1: your based fundamental things, I don't buy it. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to show your trick creation and
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  Speaker 1: this thing, you're not gonna have a package for E. T. N.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be really dynamic and you want to catch
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  Speaker 1: uston by surprise. Don't show that. But you know what
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  Speaker 1: would be good. How many routes is E. T N
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  Speaker 1: run in the NFL as a receiver? However many you
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  Speaker 1: did the other night, maybe net zero? How many times
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  Speaker 1: has he caught the ball in the NFL zero net zero.
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  Speaker 1: How about we get him some reps? How are we
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  Speaker 1: getting a little a couple of things. So I'm with
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  Speaker 1: Urban there, I get the parent coaches of the most
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  Speaker 1: paranoid group people I have met. I mean, they're afraid that,
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  Speaker 1: like some there's secret sauce out there, like somehow, they
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  Speaker 1: are the inventor of the game. Of everybody's route tree
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the same. You run a post, run
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  Speaker 1: a corner, you run a dig. You're in a basic
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  Speaker 1: route and you're gonna slant, you're in the hitch, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna stop, you're gonna sit, you're gonna come back, You're
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  Speaker 1: in a hook. Okay, there's combinations of such that you
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  Speaker 1: can work off each other pretty similar. You can guess
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  Speaker 1: what jape. You can runcover three, or you can runcover
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  Speaker 1: two or cover four, you can run cover six. You
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  Speaker 1: can play straight man, you can go all blitz as you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying show everything, but you gotta
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  Speaker 1: get work, especially when you're a young team. I would
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  Speaker 1: argue the benefit of getting reps outweighs any secret paranoia
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  Speaker 1: that you have as a coach. That David Cauley and
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  Speaker 1: the Texans are gonna get you. Now. I figured out everything,
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  Speaker 1: we found it and I'll end with this. I know
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  Speaker 1: we had to go to break my favorite. I remember
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  Speaker 1: when this is a long time ago in college, John
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  Speaker 1: Robinson College Hall Fame, College Hall of Fame football play
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  Speaker 1: won a national title, took the Rams, went to the
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  Speaker 1: NFL several playoff runs, I think one a NFC title game.
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  Speaker 1: Good football coach, he used to tell us, he goes,
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  Speaker 1: guess what, I don't care. We're gonna get so good
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  Speaker 1: at what we do. I don't care if they know
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna because we're gonna be the best. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get reps and reps. And his point was not we
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  Speaker 1: show everything, but we're gonna rep it out. And I
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  Speaker 1: even think back to Pete Carroll when he was at
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  Speaker 1: SC and John Robinson had the same philosophy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: every practice was wide open at USC. Did not care
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  Speaker 1: who came. You could just like go watch, come watch,
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  Speaker 1: because we're just gonna go. We're gonna do our stuff.
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  Speaker 1: This is who we are. Student body left, you know
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  Speaker 1: is gonna happen. You know we're it to Reggie. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna block him and he's gonna run. I mean now
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  Speaker 1: and if you can stop it, good for you. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying going to that extent. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: every practice should be open for the NFL and they
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  Speaker 1: should just let it want to come see. But there's
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in between that mentality and being scared to death
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  Speaker 1: and not working on stuff. There has to be some
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  Speaker 1: middle ground. And I think that. I think this next
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  Speaker 1: preseason game against the Saints, and I know we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about that. I guess we're not having
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  Speaker 1: a Monday night show next week because it's Monday Night football, um,
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  Speaker 1: and so we'll hit on that a little bit because
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  Speaker 1: I think that is I think that second preseason game
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  Speaker 1: is really important for this team, and I think they
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  Speaker 1: need significant reps. I think the starters need to play
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  Speaker 1: the third quarter, the third quarter. I think they need reps.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Let's take our first time out on
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  Speaker 1: the program. We've got plenty ahead. We'll hear from Joe
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  Speaker 1: Cullen he spoke earlier today, defensive coordinator. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback, Trevor Lawrence after the game. Josh Allen coming
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  Speaker 1: probably knowing your profession. Uh, so you just can't take
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  Speaker 1: anything for granted. Luckily, Joe went to a team that
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  Speaker 1: needed him most. That's a blessing, uh that. But for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other people it doesn't happen like that. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: other guy who's about to go through these first cuts.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, we bust I
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  Speaker 1: bust their butt, uh, to be on this team. But
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  Speaker 1: Osher joins us now Jaguars dot Com. Well, I once
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  Speaker 1: great to be here with my friend J P. Shadder Tony.
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  Speaker 1: Tony's here too. That's great. Glad you're along for the ride. Tony.
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  Speaker 1: That's real nice. You know, we just heard from urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer earlier today and we ran them by the second
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: ago about him trying to wrap his mind around hiding
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: things in the preseason, and Tony, you you're all about
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: showing a little bit more I think Urban's the same boat.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like you have to show every like wrinkle
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  Speaker 1: that you have, but you have to do enough, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you're a young team, to get you ready for
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the regular season. Like we're not talking about the Buccaneers
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  Speaker 1: with Tom Brady that but by the way, spend countless
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  Speaker 1: hours in the offseason under his leadership of getting the
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  Speaker 1: timing and everything else. Has got a guy who's seen
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: everything fifty thousand times, a fairly veteran offensive line group
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and veteran receivers and talent. You're not talking about that group.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You're talking about a group who is figuring out as
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: they go, with a working quarterback who's very talented, but
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do, and with a dynamic
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: playmaker and et N that you're talking about using in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: all these certain different ways. You don't just show up
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: on September whatever the date is, well in Houston and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: just say, oh, let's turn it on now, now we
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: got it. I just don't buy that. I think you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: have to show you have to work on things. John,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: thanks for coming to the show. But that's a question.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: John Urban kind of has the attitude if guys can
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: play and there and they're better than the opponent that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: they're going to perform it. They're gonna show their better
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: than the opponent, even if maybe the opponent has seen
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: one or two things they do on film. Agree, film
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: gets around in the NFL by week two. All this right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So uh I I agree with them. I don't think
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you show your trick plays. Maybe you don't go to
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: your eighth option in the playbook, but to run the offense. Yes,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And I also think Urbans talking about going up tempo,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: better work on that. You better work on that. And
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you can do that and work on that without going
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: deep into your playbook, just speed things up. When he's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: talking about that, he's talking more about getting to the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: line quickly, snapping the ball go. He's not talking about
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: giving away schemes or looks or specific place Because here's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the thing, here's the flip side of the anti paranoid quote,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: because they're all paranoid, some more and others. You know what, Actually,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the more you do in preseason, you know, you force
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the texts to do prepare for everything. Prepare for everything.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So how about you started running hurry up? Now is
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: part of the practices doing hurry up. But you can
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be up tempo and be vanilla, no doubt about it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: You know, um, if you put e t n in
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: fifty different positions, now they're worried about. Okay, we have
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: to track this guy all over the place. If you
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you know, show and I'm not as for this because
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you don't want Trevor taking hits, but you show zone.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Read stuff where the quarterbacks keeping and running a few times. Okay,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: read stuff where he doesn't keep it. Um, but you
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, sure, so there's you.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I can play this both ways. And I have this
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: conversation with coaches, not just here, other places going come on,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: everyone knows what you're going to do. There's a book
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: on every coach, like the especially when you have NFL
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: core Naders. You want to know he's go watch Detroit
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: last year, Go watch the five years he is at Seattle.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You want to Shottenhimers is gonna go watch the last
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: couple of years of Seattle. Go look at the Jets.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have a book on him and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. You know Joe Coleen's gonna do.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But watch the Ravens. He's talked about it by the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: way off season. Yes, yes, he's been on their tape
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and that's what that's what that's what they're gonna be. John,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what do you make of the Joe Schobert trade to Pittsburgh. Uh?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I felt like a guy who was not going to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: have narrowly the role here he did last year. Felt
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: like Damien Wilson was going to start in base and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: then Miles Jack was their best nickel backer. H And
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Urban kind of went away from this when he was
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: asked on Saturday, but he just feel like it wasn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: a scheme fit. And when the rest of the league
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: knows you're trying to get rid of a guy, it's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: howrd to get a lot of value. Okay, So John,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, because I have the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: philosophy that if you're gonna get rid of a player,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: whether trade them or cut them, but that you have
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: somebody on their rosters who you can replace him with,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it's better that you get better, especially in the trade,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: or you get some future compensation that makes you better.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: They believe that the combination of Wilson and Quarterman, we'll
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: do that. That's they're thinking your thoughts where if you're
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: looking at the linebacking cores. For my opinion, I would
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: have said Schobert was your third best linebacker, especially in nickel.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: But if he doesn't fit what you do, okay, but
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Nicol he does fit. But are you paying them all
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that money for one down? Down? It's not one down
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: your defense is Nicol? On top of that, you're paying
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: his guaranteed money still and by the way, you got
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a six rounder. That's it, And so long term, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: get that he is not the thumper that you need
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: at mic linebacker in the sky, but the majority of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: football today has played in third down and sub personnel.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And my question is if Joe Schobert is your third
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: best linebacker and maybe your second best nickel linebacker, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: maybe he's not, maybe they don't view him that is,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: did you get better? And are you better off replacing
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: him with whoever? I mean, who who's gonna play? Who's
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: your number one nickel is a Damian Wilson? Or how
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: about this, they could play a little dime and bring
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it a safety down closer to what I mean. I get.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: The only thing I view you saved here is you
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: cleaned up your cap a year earlier because you're gonna
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: take your major cap hit this year and spread it out,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: but you're still paying the guaranteed money. It's not like
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you have cap pressure this year. Anyways. They didn't believe it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: He even at their coverage scheme the way that they
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: wanted it too. So I tend to agree with you.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: You're giving away who a guy who has proven in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and you're paying him guaranteed money. I didn't
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: quite get it, but I think that's their approach, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it if you five, if you have,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: if you're trying to free up. And here's what I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they love one of these younger guys
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: that Joe Schobert, while better today, was gonna take reps
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: from them. They would open the door up to one
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: of these younger guys. That's what I don't know. Quarman,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't know that he's better than Schobert in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: nickel situation. Yeah that I'm talking to Nickel first, Like listen,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Joe Cholbert does not fit the system in first and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: second down. He's not a thumper. You need a thumper
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna play three for he's not physical enough.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I agree with Trent or Urban or Joe Cole and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: whoever made this isn't I'm a d percent on board there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: From a cover standpoint, I get that you want to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: move on and paying him that much money probably don't
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: make sense, but you've already it's a sunk cost and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pay a portion of his guaranteed money anyways.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And so unless he wasn't going to play as much
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: as Nickel as we thought, and then I guess the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: trade tells me that's the case. I don't know that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the case, and that and and so that's the one
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: thing I just don't know. Maybe there's just guys on
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: this roster that are younger that they want reps for.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And if that's the case, and if you're Trent in Urban,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: well it might not make sense in the immediate Do
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you have a long term view? I can buy that. John.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: We're on the practice field today standing next to each other.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: When Trevor Lawrence was in red zone seven on seven
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: work carving up defenses again and we've seen that a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: lot in the practice field. What did you make of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: his performance the other night Saturday night? Was fifteen plays?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Was big third down throws, stand out um, pretty start
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: two things. There's still a lot of work to do
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: for him though. Well. The ability the other night to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: recover and come from being behind and down on distance
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: early and still getting the first down. I thought it
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: was impressive and encouraging. And I you guys have seen
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it every practice. Uh, with a couple of exceptions, there
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: has been a play or a stretch of plays where
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you walked away sort of nodding and going, okay, that's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: what it is today. It was in the red zone
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: right before that red zone really had a really nice
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: past to Pharaoh Cooper in seven on seven I believe.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: And then three or four consecutive plays in the red
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: zone where he's got the zip on the ball and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: he's got the touch and he he throws it in
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the right way to get it there, meaning he doesn't
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: necessarily have to put a lot of air on it
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to get into the corner of the end zone. Uh.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: He can throw it with zip, he can throw he's
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: got a natural feel for how to throw the ball
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: down there, and he's got the arm talent to do it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: And I an Tony, you've seen it a little bit.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I was around Peyton, you worked for the Colts. You
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: saw Peyton unbelievable, uh mental approach the game. He had
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the physical ability to do it, but he didn't have
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the physical ability, the arm, the natural unt of this guy. Uh.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You know, time will tell if he can, if Trevor
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: has that mental capacity for the game. But I've never
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: apologies to our boy Marker. Now, I've never been around
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a quarterback that has this sort of physical tools. No,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it's special, and he doesn't have to get to uh
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Manning mental capacity because I don't think anyone else is
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: in the historic game, right, I mean, what makes Manning
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: But in that rain, Roger's Brady Manning, but one of
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the greatest ever he number one. I think he was
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: took it to a whole level. First of how he
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: did it, and he was unbelievable and Brady and Rogers
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: meant Breeze is another one. But I mean just the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: knowledge of the game and the approach and what Manning
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: did a high bar. But you're right about Trevor Lawrence
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: as a skill set that Manning never had. And that's
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the athletic ability number one. Just feet run. No one's
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: gonna worry about Peyton Manning running away from you. And
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: there are throws he makes that are just different. He
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: has he has this, he has a he has a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: arm that will remind you of the always, the Rogers,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the Farbs. Um, we think it's he has the accuracy
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to we got to see that over probably a larger
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: ask you because you were a big Lay fan. Aren't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the same as always always? Yeah? Yeah, that's hard because
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I was a kid when I watched it, so like
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he was your remember when you're a kid. But he,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Trevor reminds me. I don't think he's as thick as
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Elway was big, but he but he's John was like
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the first like super athletic guy who played the position
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that way and anikor throw in an era where no
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: one wanted you to leave the pocket. Um, Trevor has
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that type of same athletic a Bill be as as
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: John Elway, I mean different. You know, it's hard to compare.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: But the question I think, the next thing I want
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to see, which I think we've seen in practice, is
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: he consistently accurate. Because what makes all those guys great,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the Rogers, the Bradies, the Mannings, the Breeze, is they're
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: deadly accurate. They can put the ball where it needs
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to be has sort of done it, and we saw
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: it on the throw to Marvin Jones Jr. When he
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't look open really, but he throws it high in
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a place where he almost throws him open um. And
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that's a necessarily even with the time he had, that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: is difficult. You have to see it and you have
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to react. Everyone wants to practice, that's right. At least
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: are you gonna say because I I want to bring
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: up a topic that haven't practice today? Are you gonna
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: stay one more if you want me to? But yeah,
• 32:53
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• 32:57
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• 37:11
  Speaker 1: look at the tape, you know. The one thing we
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: made some mistakes, but we were physical, okay, and we
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: had you look at the tackles. Seven eight guys on
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the ball. Every time the run went to the sideline,
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  Speaker 1: the one miles there, shoot the next one to the sideline.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: We had seven eight black and tail jerseys there and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: that was great. Some of the things I'd like to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: improve on. You know, obviously right before the half, winning
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that two minute drill, we go in, we win that drill,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: we get the ball coming back. Now we get out
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and score. We're winning the game right there. So those
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: are some things. Tackling was pretty good. We had a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: couple of miss tackles. On one one play there they
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: had a swing route that corner missed it not leverage,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but for the most part the physicality really liked in
• 37:51
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  Speaker 1: r JP, Adrick, Tony Boselli, Pete brisco is not here.
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  Speaker 1: He is in Minnesota covering cares where he is. No
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• 38:15
  Speaker 1: know he touched on it there. Joe calling the physicality
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: of the Jaguars defense on Saturday night, presented that, Um,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: what about today's practice John, They were out there in
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: full pads today. It felt like there was a little
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: urgency after we heard Urban talk this morning about some
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of those things we've discussed already, the tempo and things
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: like that. What was it. I don't think they were.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: They weren't, you know, doing Oklahoma drills or anything like that,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: but are almost against the law they are, I think,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: But what would you think of practice today and all that?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: It was more physical than your you know, normal two
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: days after a game. At the same time, they're still
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in camp mode until I guess at the end of
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: this week, so it's not entirely usual them to be hitting.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I don't overplay it, but uh, it was. At first,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure because they had the installation period maybe
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: seven periods in and I was sort of used to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: some more live stuff in period six or seven, whatever
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: it was. But as time went on, it felt like
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a training camp practice. I was it a punishment practice.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I can't get that field. But they hit I mean,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: which in it's the game and age that's the game
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: of football. You're supposed to hit well, but in this
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: day and age, you don't always get that much done.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it was back in the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: seventies when you play bleather helmets. UM. Well, first, I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: think Joe was right. I thought the defense was physical, um,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: especially against the run, and I think they're gonna be
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: better against the run. As far as Stags practice, I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't out there another engagement, um, but I did hear
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: um through Twitter and talking to people that the offensive
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: line did gas ers afterwards? Was there some like punishment
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that they knew something wrong? Um? That I don't know
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: was that did? They were running? They ran afterward, but
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: they were the only group right. Yes, And and my
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: my experience as officivelignment, anytime we had to run after practice,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: it was due to poor play penalties. May be a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: fight that I started. Didn't Doug run the whole team
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in the past, like at the end of the Yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but that was that was the first training camp that
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: kind of like and then we won and they kind
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: of went away. Yeah, I mean there was, but I mean,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: certainly running any other any practice, I've never seen. I've
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: never seen one group one group run. I mean no,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I've been in my history of playing football, I've been
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a part of the one group that's running. And the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: reason yeah, there was usually we did something poorly. Um,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I was just curious, no sense of why that happened. Uh,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: it was at very talent of practice. And Urban did
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: not talk after and and Joe Colin talked and he
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't coach offensive. They're assumptions made. I don't follow at
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: a p mark long for the assumptions he mark, Well,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I know there was something with pads or pants or
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: some it was like pants gate. It was not pants skate.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't see any of that happen
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: with my own two eyes. So that's why I don't
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: know either. But I just thought it was interesting. Well,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and I only bring it up because the pants gate.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: It might be it might be a thing hashtag pants gate,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: but that out there I would see by what's that
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: trend on trend? Because I only bring it up because
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: after the game. And again, if you follow Twitter, sports
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: talk radio, all everything reporting after the game, if you'd asked,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: tell me that the unit that most underperformed, everybody was
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: all over the old line, killing the offensive line. Now,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: what was you're the ex lineman. I thought in several
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: cases Trevor clearly held the ball too much, which led
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to Lesta one of the first half sacks. And then
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: going back and watching yesterday, I thought there were a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: lot more plays where that they played okay, then disastrous,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: But your judge on your disastrous overall? What do you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: think well as an offensive line? And unfortunately, all anyone
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: remembers is the bad place. That's all remembers. And let
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you know, so just get used to it. It's part
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: of life. Um, you know A j kN gave him
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: an early sack after that, I thought he played good.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean it was the first play the game. It's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: preseason stuff happens. But I thought he was really physical
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and he had a great year last year. I thought
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Linda was fine, typical Linder. I think Bart has always
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: go still. I still think his fee are an issue.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: He gets the guys get on the edge a little bit.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Is he better better? Yes, and improving to the point
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: where he can be the swing guy. Well he won't be.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: He's not. He's not as good Shall at this point.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I would put Shatley in first, but he's training in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the right direction. I mean, you can see he's working.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: It's a project. I mean, there was about it. Um
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I thought the right tackle was just okay best. I
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: think Jowan Taylor guys get on the edge too much.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: It's just too close and in the in the pockets,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: get squeezed and even make the quarterback uncomfortable. Um I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: thought Cam was fine, but he was. I mean, don't
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: forget these were the backups too. It's not like Miles
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Garrett was out there, or like there was a bunch
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of backups. Now you were blocking some guys that might
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: even be on the team. And so, um I thought
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Cam was fine. Nothing. But you know, now the story
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: of camp has been Walker Little. Uh Urban mentioned a
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: JP was out there. Did he thought he struggled a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: little bit with his hands? I thought and terrible. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: thought they were awful. I think walking by the way,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I think i've said here. I think Walker Little will
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: be a good player. I think he has the potential
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to be a great player. I think it will be
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a good player. I think we have to be careful
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of anointing guys after a couple of practices and all
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the media around this place. You know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: in this city. I mean he started tweeting out that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he's like the you know, some brick wall that's just
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: dominating people. And the practice obviously, and he's been good,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and Urban has been effusive in his praise. And he's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: a young player who's getting better. And he hasn't played
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of football. He's been out because of you know,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: COVID and injuries, um, and everything I love about him.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: He has naturally he's big, he's powerful. He's a naturally
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: big person. He's not like trying to be big. He's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: just big. He's athletic, good feet, Um, he's powerful. I
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: thought he ran blocked very well last night, I mean
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: two nights ago. I thought he's just physical pass walking,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: his feet were good. I think he needs to work
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: on his sets. He sets himself up. He makes it
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: harder on himself than he needs to. When you have
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: a three step drop and you're dropping deep, go get
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the guy, go be physical. Um. And I just think
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: his hands are awful. I mean, he just he's not.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: He doesn't like at looks like he doesn't know what
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: to do with his hands. And they're just low and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: they're late, and he just and here's the great thing something.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: But the great thing about it is and so I'm
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: not trying to because I'm a believer. I think he
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: has the pencil. I think he has opportunity be good.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I think if I'm a betting man, I would bet
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: money Walker Little is a starting left tackle for ten years,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: is a good player. If I get the right odds,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I'll bet money that he's a great player because he
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: has that ability. And one of the things, even as
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: bad as his hands were, like guys would just run
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: into him and like I wouldn't get there because he's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: just big and he's powerful and like so, which is good.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: It didn't have to be perfect for him to block
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the guy. Now again, he might be blocking the guy
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: who's an accountant in two weeks now. Hands are everything.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of defensive linemen over the years.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: He tell me on their side, hands take time to
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: develop the fundamentals you need. Same true in the offense.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, is this a long term thing? It takes
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a long time to learn. No, I mean, gad, it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: not gonna be perfect this year, but you know that
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about just like get him out defensive lines.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Hands they just I mean in front of you, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I actually so for offensive line play, the most important
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: thing is feet. You. I say all the time, you
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: block people with your feet if you're trying to block
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: people with your hands, or because you start reaching and
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: leaning and everything else. It's all about body position and feet.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: So block people with your feet. He has those feet.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I think he can clean some of it up, thinking
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: help himself out with some of the sets, all stuff
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that if you don't have that, you're never great. Yeah,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's just those are things you figure out.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: The hands is where you you have to have heavy,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: strong hands is where you create your separation and create
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: space and give yourself a chance to win. Um. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that's just you know, he's not He's got work to do.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: But that's okay. He's a rookie. He's a rookie like
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: me saying he had awful hands. It's not like I
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: have the highest respect lines headlines, specially crushes walk a little.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I have high streets back for him. I could argue
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: he's your second best taco. Right now. There you go.
• 47:08
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  Speaker 1: That a lot of this, and Urban has been pretty
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: transparent throughout this offseason about some of the things he
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't know about the NFL and leaning on some of
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  Speaker 1: his assistants and the flow of the game as part
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: of that too, right, I mean, he just said it there.
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  Speaker 1: Some of these offenses in college these days are flying
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: down the field. The clock stops, you know in certain
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: situations in college it doesn't in pro and all of
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: a sudden the game creeps away. If you can't get
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: off the field, you look up at the clock and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the quarters over you haven't had a ball, Well, they
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: gave up. It's incredible, right, plays. Yeah, I mean, I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: don't care where you are, and you're gonna be out
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: there for a while. Yeah, Now, there'll be adjustments, but
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like two minutes I almost won almost wonder sometimes JP
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: is not that he I know he's learning, but is
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: it also Urban trying to communicate, Hey, we're all this together.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: We're you know, learning together, even though like I get
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the sense and I don't know this that Urban's like, listen,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I know this stuff. You know, I've won a few Natties.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I mean everywhere I go wins. I mean, I know
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing, guys, but you know, if he comes
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: across that it's a no win for him. And if
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: he comes across it's like, yeah, I'm learning, Like this
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: is new, this is different, and it is, but I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: don't think it's that big a deal. Like I don't
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: think like Urban sweating it at night, going to have
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: this challenge situation I need, I got this red flag?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: What do I do? Where do I keep this thing?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know my sock out? Is there two minutes
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: lucks running and it doesn't stop? Is the field? Is
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: it the hash marks? Oh my gosh, Because it's not
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: like he's a Remember, he's not a course. He's never
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: been a coordinator. And either side the ball, he's just
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: a leader. He's just a head coach. He's a CEO.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: So it's not like if you were maybe an offensive
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: coordinator've never been at the NFL game and always been college,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: then the hash marks might be a bigger deal. Right,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the mechanics of Colin plays in over the headset would
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: be different. But he's not doing any of that. He's
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: guys who've already done it before. So it is a
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: learning experience and I and I do appreciate urbans like
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: willingness to have some transparency of saying this is like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is impressive. And I wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: the hash marks are different and that wasn't in the brochure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, man, But yeah, the guy
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  Speaker 1: won of his games. The dude wins translates here, that
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  Speaker 1: would be a pretty what might be would winning eighty
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  Speaker 1: percent of the games be pretty good? It might be
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  Speaker 1: an all time record. I think that'd be good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: i'd have to go look it up, but I guess
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  Speaker 1: over a hundred names. If so, I think it would
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  Speaker 1: interested in hearing him after the game. You know, um,
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  Speaker 1: how he's going to react to a situation like that,
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem. Wasn't all that you don't one on
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  Speaker 1: starting to kind of settle in there a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I thought. The guys that came in later in the
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  Speaker 1: game did great. Um, Cleveland did a good job. Big
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  Speaker 1: Zone team. The match us pretty well. But now, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like first time out there, I felt comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: felt poised. Obviously, the first play is not kind of
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  Speaker 1: what you want for the first play, but after that,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought we did a good job. We
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  Speaker 1: communicated well up front, they did a really good job
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: with protection. Uh at least one of those sackses on
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: me for sure, just holding the ball too long, So
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: that's something I'll work on. And just maneuvering in the pocket.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: It's something I've always, you know, always gotta work on.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: So other than that, I missed miss an easy one
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: um to Marvin, a little quick out that I wish
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I would have hit. But other than that, I felt
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  Speaker 1: I felt good out there. I thought we were seeing
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  Speaker 1: it all on the same page. And there's all obviously
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: things to clean up. But I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good day. REVERERT. Lawrence after Saturday night's preseason opener,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: his debut in the preseason of his rookie campaign. Welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shaddrick,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco is out this week. Can be
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: back with us in a couple of weeks. Yes, Tony,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you're raising me. Tell you what, Trevor Lawrence, smart man,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: smart man, you want to win over your offensive alignment.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Take the put the stack on. It was on me.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I held, I held it too long. They did a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: great job. Kudos you guys were perfect. Mr Lawrence. That
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: that is gonna get you brownie points in the offensive line.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: That and get a good gift at Christmas. You'll be
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: set that plenty dinner everyone, while Flinty ahead on Jaguars
• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: to our good friend Greg Cosell. He is with the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: NFL Film Senior producer NFL Matchup on ESPN, the executive
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: producer and analyst there and Greg, thanks for coming on
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour. Good to see
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: you and talk to you, and you know we're gonna
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: go through some quarterbacks around the league. But Jacksonville folks
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: finally got a chance to see the long blonde locks
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence wearing teal, which is always fun. Well,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: you know what, guys, it's great to be with you.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna start off by asking Tony a question. So, Tony,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: coaches coach, do they coach for guys to be just okay,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: our average or to do it the right way all
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: the time. Well, yeah, I mean, Greg, you know as
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: well as I do. The good coaches demand the best,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and I agree with you we were talking off the air.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: The coach's job is to get the most out of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the player is and you do that two ways. You
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: put them in the best possible position to have success.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: In number two, you ask them to do perform at
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the level you believe they can achieve, not where they are,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: not where it's comfortable. You take them to a level
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: where it's uncomfortable, and you ask them to reach there.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: And any player worth their salt, we'll tell you that's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: what they want. It's it's not always pleasant, it's not fun,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: especially depending on the personality of the coaches. You know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: aren't as nice as others, but that's what you want.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: That's what coaching is about. Well, it's funny you say that,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: because I was really fortunate in my career to learn
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position from Bill Walsh, and the way he
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: taught it was that you do it the right way
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: every single time. So when I watch a quarterback, that's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: the way I think about it. I don't And obviously
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: it's the first performance, but that's that should not be
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: totally relevant because it's being coached, it's being taught, and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you want to go out there and you want to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: see not only the quarterback everybody. But obviously we're gonna
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: talk quarterbacks and Trevor Lawrence. Um, you want to see
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: it done right all the time. So if you'd like
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: to do that, I certainly could. Yeah, and so great,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: let's talk about that. I mean, as you look at
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I mean, obviously, I know you watch a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: lot of film, you know, of these guys in college
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: leading up to the NFL draft, and you watch a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: ton of pro games and break that down with your responsibilities.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Give us a breakdown of what you saw and and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of what you were expecting. We know
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: it's the first preseason game, but as you said, do
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know you gotta do it right all the time
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: if you want to be great. Yeah. I thought where
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: he was really good was there were some spot throws
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to the outside. He hit Um Jones, I think for
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: ten yards on third and nine. I think that was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the first series it was. It was a ten yard
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: out that was a spot throw. That's more of an
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: execution throw than a read throw. Um. He also hit
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: a spot throw another time in the game. I think
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: probably say only what played two series? Was it? Yes,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I think you're probably thinking on these, uh, the the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: one the man hurts on the on the sit route
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: just um, Yeah, there were, Um, there were two spot
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: throws that they he showed a strong sense of timing
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: because those are throws. I remember work, you know, with
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Ron Jaworski for years and years, one of my best friends,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: and he would tell me that there were certain throws
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: that based on the timing of the drop and and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the throw, that he could throw blindfolded because their spot throws,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: their timing throws. And I thought Lawrence, for a rookie quarterback,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: really did a good job with those. That was that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: was a real positive Um he talked about and I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: know what you said, Tony about the old line. The
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: first sack was on Lawrence the first play of the game.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: He was slow to eliminate and isolate Um. The read
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: was to the left side. He stayed focused on slot
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: receiver Jones far too long. He had channel open on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the inbreaker to the read side. The Browns were had
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: a five man rush. They played cover one. The throw
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: should have been to Chenault. He just stayed on Jones
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: too long. First play, probably to be expected, but again
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: something now to teach and to work on. Great cous
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: with us from NFL films at ESPN's NFL matchup. Yeah,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback having that to that clock in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: your head of you know when to get rid of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: this thing, not to hold it too long. How much
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: how long does that take for a quarterback to figure
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: that out? Greg, Well, there's reasons jp y quarterbacks hold
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: it too long. Sometimes it's truly because the coverage winds.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: For instance, the second sack came on a shot play
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends. It
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: was conventional play action with Lawrence under center. It was
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: mirrored crosses by Jones and Johnson. It was seven man
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: pass bro which tells you what your shot play. They're
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: looking to get him on a deep drop. They want
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field and a t
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: N released late into the flat. The Browns took it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: away with cover three. There was no throw to be made. Now,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: could you sit here and say you could throw it
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: into the flat maybe, but there was truly no throw
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: to be made. Um another play that I think is
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: something you really want to work on. And by the way,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: this is very common with the young quarterbacks. It was
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: the third it in four play that ended the first
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: possession where he threw it to a Chinault on the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: slot out route. Uh and it was incomplete obviously because
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: they punted. He drifted into the pressure. He drifted instead
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of staying on the mid line and giving himself an
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: opportunity to make a clean throw, Trevor drifted to his
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: left right behind. I guess it was Cam Robinson, the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: left tackle, and he created his own pressure, so he
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: made it a more difficult throw than it was. Now.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Antonio will understand this because someone will probably say Cam
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Johnson didn't do a good job. But Trevor drifted into him,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: and it made it tougher for for Cam Robinson and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to make the block. Yeah, Camp, it wasn't Camp's fault.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Greg. There was a little bit of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: a soft pocket by Juwan Taylor on the right side,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: and so in Trevor felt that and started drifting back
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: backwards into the left. If he would have stepped up
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: and took it about two shovels to the left, there's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: there's space there where he could have sat there for
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: an extra click and then be able to throw the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: ball with his feet set. And that's what and those
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: are things, And he even mentioned it, I gotta be
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: better in the pocket. And that's what you see young
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks do all the time. They go backwards instead of forwards. Heck,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Patrick Homes still does it, but he has such a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: special arm he gets away with it. Somehow he backs
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: up the fifty yards and just throws it up. I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: have no idea how he gets away with it. Not
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: a offensive tackles nightmare, um, But the ones who are
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: consistently great or they move forward, they climbed the pocket.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You make a great point, because don't forget too Lawrence
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: was not under pressure very often in college. Um, he
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: might have been under what I consider pressure. Everybody has
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: their different sense of pressure, but I think of pressure
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: in terms of the NFL. And I know Tony you
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: would agree with this, you know, Uh, he wasn't really
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: under pressure more than thirty five or forty past attempts
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: at Clemson this past year. True pressure. So he has
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: to get used to working out of a noisy, muddied
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: pocket where there are people around him, but that's not
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: really pressure by NFL standards. And you make a great point.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: The the response to that, if you're not used to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: it is to drift either sideways or backwards, and you
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: cannot drift backwards in the NFL. You mentioned Mahomes. You know,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you have to put that aside. He's just a different
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: cat and he can make these throws that a lot
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: of people can, but you cannot move backwards versus pressure
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Greg, you know you it's a great
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: point and interesting, And you talked about the first play
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: that was the sack fumble and that you know he
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: held it a little bit long, stayed on. Marvin Jones Jr.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Should have got the channault. But you know, the positive
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: for me on that play. Was he stood there tall
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: in the pocket. Now he followed it, but he stood there,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: He wasn't getting nervous as it got crowded in there,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: and he was still looking down the field. He just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: didn't find the right person and didn't get off. But
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: at least and you've seen this, and this is always
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: worries me, is in that situation, eyes go down, you
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: start getting happy feet, you're looking for an exit, and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: he didn't. I actually did like the sack fumble. As
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman wouldn't liked it, but I appreciate in
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: the evaluation, here's the guy standing tall and is not
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: getting nervous when everything's collapsing. Yeah, And I think that's
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: a really good point because a lot of young quarterbacks
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: and and and let's think of it this way, Well,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has mobility and as a plus athlete for
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: a man that size. When all said and done, guys,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: he's going to make his bones in this league as
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: a pocket player. Yes, does he have the ability to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: get outside. Can you run some design run game stuff
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: with him? You can, But he's ultimately going to be
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback. And I think that's a great point.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Instead of just immediately cleaning the pocket, which is a
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: hard thing to teach a guy to stay in the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: pocket if he doesn't have that natural trait to begin with,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to teach. And Tony, you're right,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: he didn't look to leave the pocket at any point
• 1:10:50
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  Speaker 1: things that were concerning and it showed up two years
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  Speaker 1: ago in playoff games and even this year in a
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  Speaker 1: steps into his throws. So the one thing that you
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  Speaker 1: want to see is how he handles himself. And there's
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  Speaker 1: there were times that he struggled a bit. He'd hurry
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  Speaker 1: So again, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
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  Speaker 1: all of them be starters in the NFL? UM? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think Trey Lance depends on Garoppolo because Lance, you know,
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• 1:14:14
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  Speaker 1: He thought he played well. Yeah, I thought he played fine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, so much of
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  Speaker 1: the first game was I mean, the conversation we had
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  Speaker 1: about only get him a series, only get ten plays
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: and um, And I think it was a great learning
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: lesson that. You know, it's called a plan to win.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: When you start the game and they go right down
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: to field, pick a field goal and we knock it
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: out to the eight team. I think it was a
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: ten yard line And the worst penalty in football is
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: when you see that now your offense is backed up.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: And so just talk can know about how the every
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: drive council. That's when you're only talking about sixty plays
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: three hours of football. That's the big change for a
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: lot of players and coaches. You know, they getting a
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: couple of drives a half, you know, or in colleging,
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  Speaker 1: you know your eight ninety plays a lot of times,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: so every play's gotta count. Every Drive's gotta count Urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer earlier today and welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour, d P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Baselli, Noe, Pete Brisco tonight, and it's time for
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  Speaker 1: them tonight, Number one tonight from at General of Duval.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Should C. J. Henderson start Week one? No idea, It's
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: way too early. Um. I think he's been out what
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: a total of three practices full attacked. Um, so let's
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: give it some time. Pretty straight. But going into the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: game Saturday, out there again today, which is great. He
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: was the ones today. It's a better team, is C. J.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Henderson's You're starting corner because he's a good football player,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: but you have to be available. Um. He's had some
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: off the field issue. When I say issues, it's you know,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: we're not sure what they are, but he's had some
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: sort of health issues. Whether it's the betterment of like
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: physical health, mental health. I have no idea. And by
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: the way, it's none of my business. It's none of
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: any of our business until it does. You know, if
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: you can't play, then they'll let us know why. But
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: all I know is we're a better team with him
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: out there. And he played well in the first preseason game.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: He showed his ability had the one miss tackle. But
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: you haven't had that many reps out there. I'm not
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: overly concerned with that. A couple of past breakups. Um,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: I like our secondary. If he started in one corner,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: you got your kill Griffin at the other, and you
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: have Tyson Campbell's your nickel. Pretty good. You're pretty good
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: right there, pretty athletic, pretty fast. Let's see how the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: rest of camp and the preseason goes with him. Next
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: question at s boss in seven, can Tony see pushing
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Taylor inside the right guard since Sandalis had him doing
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: better there because of his power instead of footwork, pushing
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Cam to right tackle, and putting Walker at left tackle
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: since he was literally like a wall Saturday night. I
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: think at most I saw him getting pushed three to
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: four steps back. That's a long series of thoughts. Yeah,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: so one Walker little is a big man in physical
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: but we talked about. He has a lot of work
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: to do. I do think he ultimately can be a
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: start will be a starting tackle here were left or right, Um,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: because he has that kind of talent. He's athletic, he's powerful,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: he's a naturally big man. Um. I'm not sure why
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: you would move um Juan Taylor into right guard when
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: maybe the guy who played the best football with any
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: of your offensive line and last year was a J.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: Cannon and a J Cann. Everyone's gonna pay attention to
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: first play where if the ball is out on time,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: it's late, pressure, ball was held, end up getting a sack.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: Um offensive line is always gonna get blamed for it,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: even if it's not completely their fault. Go watch the
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: rest of the game. Every play from that he was
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: pretty much physically dominan. He was very good last year.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: A J Can's went your best offensive linement. So no,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not moving Juwan Taylor inside to take a J
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Can's job. They want to start now if you wanted
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: to move Cam to right tackle and go compete with
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor because you wanted to walk a little possibly
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: later this year, Walker Little's got to get better now.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: He's not He's not better than Cam at left tackle
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: at this point today right this seconds, not based one
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: we saw on the tape. Could he could? He could
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: be better at right than Juwan right now? I don't know.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Tell me when I see it. Okay, I mean all
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: you can go buy is the tape, not what we want,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: not what you hope not you're based on your bias
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: or your feelings or whether I did last year or
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: you didn't like either. Like so if I watched the tape,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: can perform better than walk a little? Okay? Cam should play?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Next question from at the Underscore Jacks Fans six one
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: five on d how did the run fits look on tape?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: We all believe it will be crucial to stop the run,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: not only this year but every year. Hashtag go Jags.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: You know what, You're right, It is crucial to stop
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: the run not only this year but every year. If
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: I were to get Jacks Fan six five on the
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  Speaker 1: phone or the Underscore Jacks Fans six one five on
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  Speaker 1: the phone and asked him to give me the definition
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: of a run fix, what does he What does that means?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: I know what it means, but I'm saying, dude, do
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: you think he knows what a run like, j What
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: if that's actually you know, like the linebacker coach Chines.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: If I would ask you, JB, give me a description
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: of run fits the way I understand it, it's fitting
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the gaps up front. So everybody has a gap top.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: So if you're a one if you're a one gap defense,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: it's so if I'm the one technique and my responsibility
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: is to the front side a gap, I'm run fitting
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: into that gap. If it's a two gap defense, it's
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: different because now I'm reading the man and I'm playing
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: two very simple So okay, um, overall run fits, UM
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I did. I'll be honestly, I didn't study the defense
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: at closely where I watched like every single play and
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: watched the I watched individual play more than anything for
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: this first preseason game. Typically the way I watched the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: preseason is watched individuals, less about scheme, UM or individual
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: I thought Von Hamilton's very good. I thought, um dwant
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: smoot playing the solid game. Malcolm Brown flashed, had some
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: good plays, got in the backfield um twelve times for
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: fifteen yards on the first half. Robertson Robertson, Roy Robertson
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Harris Robertson, Harris Um name Robertson, Harris, Roy Robertson, Harris.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm just calling him by his last name,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: just like I called Brown by his last name, and
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: like I called Hamilton by his last name. He ms
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: have two last names. Robertson. We has double last names, right,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: go ahead, so didn't count. Just as if it's hyphenated,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: that's a great question. It's all one word. If it's hyphenated,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: it's it's one name. Robinson, Harris, Robertson. That's what I said, Robinson. Okay,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: go ahead. Robertson, we know who you're talking about. Okay,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: do you say it then, Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson, Harris,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: thank you. That's what I said the first time. Good job.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: You know you're really being mean spirited. I wish we
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: had Pete back here. Robertson Harris. Um was good and
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: solid in physical and big um. None of the guys
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I mentioned are great pass rushers. Might means wants by
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: the best of them, I thought, chas On some good run.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: You know they've got pass rushing. Josh Allen had some
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: good pass rushes, but overall, the run defense was very good,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: which is what you want. That's good. That's a good start.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: But now then again Brown's junior varsity was out there. Yes,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: no starters none, two best backs not there, top receivers
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: not there, top tight end not there, starting line not
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: their quarterback not there. You were playing the j B
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: second team. That should have been the keeping it real
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: segment right there. But we'll see. Hey, you know it's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: good start though, goody they ran them out there. So
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: next question from that, Jay Hopkins b g S question
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: for you, JP. It seemed to me when you interviewed
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Urban after the game that he was more upset about
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: losing free season than other head coaches have been mid season.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Did it come across that way to you, great show, No,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: I think he was a negative ghost writer in the pattern,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: thank you. I think that he was frustrated with some
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: of those situations. We heard him talk about the holding
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: on the kickoff return and the field position was not
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: great and they didn't execute a couple of times in
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: the fourth and one play it didn't work out, And
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I think he said going into the game, you know
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: the results. You want to win the game, but there
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: are more important things to a preseason game in the
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: actual final score, some other coaches would think differently on
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: that that we've seen around here. Um, every coach mid
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: season is going to have a much different idea of
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: that than they do in the preseason. So I'm not
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: sure what that was. If you have a game like
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: that opening day against that, then I think he'll share
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: his postgame interview pleasure would be interesting. I'll say that
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: good luck. Let's hope it doesn't win. A yeah, I
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: agree with that. Let's move along. Next question at Jags
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: eight five thoughts on pass rush and it was the
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: first preseason game, but should we be concerned with the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: lack of pass rush. Guys weren't getting enough pressure to
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: affect quarterbacks and didn't seem to be getting home on
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: blitz is Tony Oh my goodness, remember one the one
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: thing that he said that was right, Please don't panic, um.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: If you want to look at pass rush, Josh Allen
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: had very few raps. A couple he did. He had
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: a good inside passwork, got pressure. Um, so I like,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: can't even get warmed up, and uh Calevan Chason had
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: two really good pass rushes that stood out where he won.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Alan played twelve snaps. Here's the thing. And how many
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: of those were actually in pass rushing situations? You know,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: not many. The ball was out quick case Keenum's a veteran.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of short passing. You know, he
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: hit the third step, hit the fifth step. It's out.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: It's hard to hit the quarterback when that's happening. And
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: so um I would not. I'm I'm concerned about it
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: overall for the season, like where is the pastures gonna come?
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: We talked about that last week with Pete on this show.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a fair question to ask. What
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: happened in the preseason game has zero impact on my
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: being happy or sad or scared or optimistic about it.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Doesn't change your feelings from anything, not one bit. Okay,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: next question from at deston Rayne, Let's cut the team, sir,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: that's not a question. Yeah, that's a statement, and Pete's
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: not here to do it for you, so I will
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: not do that. The first cut is tomorrow, deadline down, dude,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna go from. See, I knew this. I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: had this argument. And you know what, if Frank and
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Jeff are listening right now, Joe, you were in the booth,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: and I said, there's multiple cuts, one every week every two.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: What did they say, Joe, put your ma Tell what
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: they said? Tell me, I want you to say it.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Say it. He doesn't remember. No, it's all one Cut's correct. No,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: there's one every Tuesday, Frangie, don't ever question me again.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I'm always right. It goes to five tomorrow, next Tuesday
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: it goes from eight five to eight, and then the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: next Tuesday it's down with basically two weeks to the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: regular season. I knew it. And there's gonna be people
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: available for the practice squad. Yes, those rules are the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: same four. Yes, all that's the same from last year,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: but the cut is different this year. Any surprises on
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: this first cut, I think on the first cut there
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: won't be many surprises, right, I mean it is the
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: only team I heard is like in like so like ridiculous.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebow just got I was getting killed on Twitter
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: last night, just killed. Not just in Jacksonville like national um.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about Tim Tebow to me was
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: not the miss blocks or any of that stuff that
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: happens in football. By the way, and he's a brand
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: new tight end. He's never huh. Those other guys are
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: paid across the line, and it just so I can
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: critique that I can walk through it. We've talked about it,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Jeff and I have talked about it. There's a physicality
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: that needs to work on, so unforth, like, I don't
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: like it got too much the memes. It was too
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: much to me. We come on, give me the guy
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: a break, because I I could literally go through Hall
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: of Famers tape and show embarrassing box. That's just not
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: don't I don't like stuff like that anyway. Anyways, the
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: bigger thing I'd be concerned about. He was the only
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: tight end that didn't play on any special teams none,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: zero snaps. And typically if you're gonna be a down
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: the line tight end or that move tight end slash fullback,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: you were playing on special teams because you're not going
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: to be kept if you otherwise. And so I'm not
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a first cut, but that was
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: surprising to me JP that he was not, because you
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: would think if his point, if your plan was that
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebow on this roster as your fourth or fifth
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: tight end or fourth fifth tight end slash fullback, which
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: we've seen him running practice. Um that he would be
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: on special teams and so that was that was like
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: the light went off. I'm like, oh, this isn't because
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: he got other guys, you know, going ten reps on
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: special teams. That's the high water market ends. Luke Farrell
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: had eight snaps on special teams. Yeah, the tight end list.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Man Hurts I out there for kickoff returns. Farrell had eight.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: Uh Davis had five snaps on special teams. Shaunessy had
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: two snaps on special had six. Man Hurts had one.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Manage to the starter and you hadbody else had at
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: least one, and he was on kickoff returns. I remember
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: seeing him and he's a starter. I was shocked that
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: Teabo got no reps. I would be concerned if I
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: was um a player who was trying to make this
• 1:43:31
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• 1:43:33
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's getting cut. Um, I have no
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• 1:45:08
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• 1:45:12
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• 1:45:15
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• 1:45:23
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• 1:45:25
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• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: That's that's high praise, appreciate, but at it for a
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• 1:46:36
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• 1:46:44
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  Speaker 1: think he usually started. I don't think he's a franchise quarterback.
• 1:46:59
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• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I think, is is he a guy that if you
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: are looking for a transition, can you start and win
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: using football games? Sure? Could he be like a Ryan
• 1:47:10
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think immediately, but I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's a if I'm building a franchise, he's
• 1:47:22
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• 1:47:26
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• 1:47:30
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• 1:47:34
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• 1:47:37
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• 1:47:40
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• 1:47:42
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• 1:47:46
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• 1:47:49
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  Speaker 1: it was interesting because going into the game and going
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  Speaker 1: in February or in the January hired or excitement have
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• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: much excitement as maybe as usual because it wasn't the big,
• 1:56:07
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• 1:56:12
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  Speaker 1: excitement and it's just you have O, T A S
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  Speaker 1: and and like there's this fever pitch and I think
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  Speaker 1: people were like, we are super like we were in
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  Speaker 1: the super Bowl, like we are ready, here we go domination.
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  Speaker 1: Depending on who you asked, Yeah, I mean and I
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  Speaker 1: felt it, which is good, that's what you wanted fans.
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  Speaker 1: But then you got into the preseason game and all
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you're playing the Browns backups. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: go so well. I think that's good from this dandpoint, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: little like we have work to do. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna be a good team. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: Urban was it. I mean Urban's great, Trevor's great, we
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  Speaker 1: got all these great players, but it's the reality of
• 1:57:00
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• 1:57:03
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• 1:57:14
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• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: so everyone just take a deep breath. Don't panic. It's okay.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: It wasn't great. Some good stuff, some bad stuff, some
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: bugs of this stuff, but don't panic. It'll be okay
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: as long as we keep on getting the error point
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: in the right direction so that this thing hits a
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  Speaker 1: um crescendo. Come Houston. We need to kick it off
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  Speaker 1: for real, because that's what matters everything. All you're trying
• 1:57:44
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• 1:57:46
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• 1:57:52
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• 1:57:56
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• 1:58:12
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• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: thank you. Do you disagree? Yeah, that's the first preseason. Yeah,
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• 1:58:25
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  Speaker 1: that happens Week one in Houston, okay, alarm bells might
• 1:58:32
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• 1:58:35
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• 1:58:38
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• 1:58:41
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• 1:58:43
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• 1:59:09
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• 1:59:11
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