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Chris Johnson Says He's Better Than Derrick Henry & LenDale White Has WILD Snoop Dogg & USC Stories · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: We're talking about weed.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Boss is a cop.
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  Speaker 3: You got to watch out for Boss. He definitely keeps
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  Speaker 3: us on a straight and narrow.
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  Speaker 2: So, your guys' podcast. Talk about that. How'd you guys
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  Speaker 2: get that started? Why'd you guys get that going?
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  Speaker 4: Man, it's crazy, man.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, me and Bruh, like, we always around
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  Speaker 1: each other, man.
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  Speaker 4: Like, 24-7 all the time.
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  Speaker 1: And we always, like, going back and forth on whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The topic could be anything. The topic could be. Is
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  Speaker 1: this water better than this water? We just going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth about it all the time. And the only
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  Speaker 1: thing we was missing was the cameras. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Recording it and stuff like that. So we
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, we was talking one time. We
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  Speaker 1: was like, man, let's do a podcast. And the crazy
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  Speaker 1: thing about it is when we first was like, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do it, we was trying to find a name, right?
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  Speaker 4: We wanted to get away from Smash and Dash.
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  Speaker 1: Because we know we was going to talk about all topics,
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  Speaker 1: like everything, not just football.
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  Speaker 4: Or whatever like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then, you know, just sending out tweets, like getting
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  Speaker 1: people to try to help us find a name and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And it just kept coming back. Everybody was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I need to do smash and dash. Cause it's all,
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  Speaker 1: we already got a following with the smash and dash
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  Speaker 1: or whatever like that. So everybody just kept saying smash
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  Speaker 1: and dash, smash and dash. So that's how we ended
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  Speaker 1: up naming it smash and dash or whatever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It only made sense to me.
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  Speaker 5: Like, like you said, we try to get away from
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  Speaker 5: that because the podcast is more lifestyle. We, It's crazy because,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just naturally something always happens in sports. So
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  Speaker 5: that's what's going to be the topic, you know, especially
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  Speaker 5: in locker rooms. So even though we don't want to
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  Speaker 5: talk about sports, naturally when you scroll on IG or,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you're on the Internet, you're going to see
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  Speaker 5: something to do with some sports. So we talk about that.
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  Speaker 5: But we talk about any and everything. Women, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 5: Shopping, you know, how much they can't not spend money,
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  Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: It's all kind of stuff. It's like, you know, whatever
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  Speaker 5: going on. Talk about times at USC. You know, I
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  Speaker 5: remember when Snoop picked me up one time from class and,
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  Speaker 5: you know, people be wanting to hear about that. So
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  Speaker 5: we talk about any and everything. And this is like
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  Speaker 5: really my right hand. It's my dog, my best friend.
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  Speaker 5: That been since 2008. And it's like, shit, just rolled over.
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  Speaker 5: It only makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, okay. There's a couple things to unpack there. I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I'm electrostatic right now. When you're talking about women, what
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  Speaker 3: are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: We rating?
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  Speaker 2: Or are we just talking about what they can and
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  Speaker 2: can't do? We could rate for show.
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  Speaker 1: Anything.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing matters. Who's number one? Women out there right now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: number one.
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  Speaker 4: Number one.
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  Speaker 2: Nicki. He loves Nicki. Nah, I don't know about that. Well, listen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get too far into this too quick,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm sure there's... There's some different types out there.
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  Speaker 3: When I see Nicky, when Nicky's walking away, it's like
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  Speaker 3: in a museum to look at. Like, wow, what a
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  Speaker 3: beautiful painting. But, like, I'm not doing any damage to that.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Why not?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, 300-pound white dude? Like, I mean, you've seen the
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  Speaker 3: office alignment out there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough little deal.
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  Speaker 3: So I see Nikki, I'm like, wow, that's beautiful. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure another man's going to make her very happy someday,
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  Speaker 3: you know? But that's just not for me.
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  Speaker 2: Who's your number one?
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  Speaker 3: Dude, see, if we're going to go away, like, if
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about celebrity crushes, I take you back to
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  Speaker 3: that 70s show with Mila Kunis.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mila was been, I think that was all our
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  Speaker 5: crushes at one point in time.
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  Speaker 2: Burnett?
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  Speaker 3: Smaller, that's like, that's like my move right there.
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  Speaker 2: Right there.
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  Speaker 1: What are you at?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying to think about it. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like my first. Margot Robbie. Was that her name too?
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  Speaker 2: Margot Robbie. She is beautiful. Her and Wolf of Wall Street.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, all of it really, but her.
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  Speaker 3: It was unfair when she opens the doors and Wolf
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  Speaker 3: of Wall Street, you're like, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 2: Like, do I need to go to the bathroom real quick?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Who do you think your very first like crush was?
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now. Rose from Titanic.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: That was the first pair of boobs I ever saw
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  Speaker 3: in my life.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like mine was a Carmen Electra.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my boy Carmen. Carmen, hey, yo.
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  Speaker 1: Carmen, everybody like Carmen, yo.
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  Speaker 3: That was the main go-to when you were younger.
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  Speaker 2: You see Pamela?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's a huge one.
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  Speaker 4: She had a porn video.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't wait to watch that. I ain't going to lie.
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  Speaker 5: You could see that. I was like, oh, that's the
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  Speaker 5: lady from TV?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I need to see them. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah her kim kim kardashian had one we've all
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  Speaker 3: seen the videos though i mean let's get a little
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  Speaker 3: better like let's get some better quality cameras in there
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  Speaker 3: you know what i'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: It's a video cassette you know what i'm saying no
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  Speaker 5: these things you put that on there you're gonna see
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  Speaker 5: everything yeah everything's gonna be dialed in so do you.
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  Speaker 6: Guys do uh you guys what are your guys's uh
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  Speaker 6: segments on smash and dash do you guys have a
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  Speaker 6: smash and dash segment Three smashes or dash.
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  Speaker 2: We definitely do that sometimes. We do it sometimes. It
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  Speaker 2: just depends. I mean, we definitely go on.
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  Speaker 5: The first like three episodes, I think we did do that.
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  Speaker 5: And we was on there like, do you eat ass
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  Speaker 5: and stuff like that? And it's like smashing their pass
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  Speaker 5: and their dash. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think somebody smashed. I had to dash. I ain't
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  Speaker 2: on that.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: But somebody was like, I'm smashing. So that's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I mean, this podcast is
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  Speaker 2: going right where I want it to go. This is
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  Speaker 2: exactly where I thought it. I actually didn't think it
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  Speaker 2: would go this way. But I'm happy. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: eating ass. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: So you're not about that? You're not about eating ass?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, no, not right now. I can't. That's not? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's not really up on my list right now. Buddy,
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  Speaker 2: y'all ever had it happen to you?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: He questioned everything, didn't you?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, you got to question everything when that happens to you.
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  Speaker 1: You're being honest, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then she has. You let her take over.
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  Speaker 2: Do God's work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's when you see God the most clearly. Yeah. You
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  Speaker 2: see God the most clearly.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, there are some, these are like locker room conversations
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  Speaker 3: to a T because I was in the locker room
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  Speaker 3: one time and I'm overhearing two dudes talking. And one
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  Speaker 3: guy's like, you eat ass? And the guy's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: of course I eat ass. Like, I eat ass for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, what about sucking toes? He goes, oh, man,
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  Speaker 3: she's got to take a shower if I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Going to suck toes.
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  Speaker 1: You'll eat ass.
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  Speaker 2: You'll say, yes, eating ass, but sucking toes. You got
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  Speaker 2: to make sure to shower.
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  Speaker 3: You got to make sure to shower with the toes.
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  Speaker 2: My man drew a line.
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  Speaker 6: But you want him to shower, too, in both situations.
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  Speaker 3: In both situations, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: In both situations, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You just go out for a jog, and then you're like,
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  Speaker 3: you want to eat this thing.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just say, yeah, I'll eat ass, and then, oh,
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  Speaker 2: but I still got to shower. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's when you cause if you were to say yeah
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  Speaker 3: I eat ass and I suck toes it's like they
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  Speaker 3: probably showered before but if you're like I eat ass
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  Speaker 3: and if I'm gonna suck toes they gotta shower that's
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  Speaker 3: a questionable ass thing that's like what are we doing
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  Speaker 3: with the ass thing that's a tough deal that's a
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  Speaker 3: tough gig.
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  Speaker 5: If he did that then he guaranteed he definitely ate
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  Speaker 5: the ass without it being washed.
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  Speaker 2: No question ain't even a question.
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  Speaker 3: No question but you remember being young sitting there first
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  Speaker 3: couple years in the league you go out to South
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  Speaker 3: or Tin Roof or something like that bring somebody home
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  Speaker 3: nobody's worried about a shower no.
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  Speaker 4: One Getting straight to it.
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  Speaker 2: Getting straight to it.
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  Speaker 1: Everything.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of drinks. This man is an ultimate SC.
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  Speaker 2: He's a scumbag. Fight on, dude. There's no way. He
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  Speaker 2: said Tim Roof. I knew where he was going with this.
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  Speaker 1: I was a big loser.
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  Speaker 2: This is the ultimate scummy.
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  Speaker 3: I did get pretty scummy my first couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: I've got two kids now. I've dialed it back a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. I'm chilling now. The first two years, I
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  Speaker 3: was out in these streets big time. I was getting
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  Speaker 3: a little wild out there.
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  Speaker 2: Wifey knows that. Oh, yeah, she knows.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We tell each other everything.
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly. I don't know. She was one of them.
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  Speaker 2: I think we tell each other everything.
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly.
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  Speaker 2: Because they definitely tell you 99% of things. That's okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like what daddy don't know don't hurt him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you when you're right now.
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  Speaker 3: So if she's not telling me a couple things, it's
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  Speaker 3: okay because I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because my feelings are fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It hurts when you think about it, though.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: Especially when you're in college dating girls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, like, you find out they've been doing something. And, like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how y'all were, but if someone was
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  Speaker 3: cheating on you, I'd have to know everything.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 3: What positions you guys do. I really broke down, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Bro. ain't no way.
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  Speaker 2: Once I know you cheat, I don't even want to
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  Speaker 2: hear about none of that. Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you, man. That's a superpower. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to know. I got to know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you got to know?
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  Speaker 1: You was sucking him like that and you did that move.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to know none of that.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, listen, we played Michigan State and after the game,
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  Speaker 3: I literally have a boot on and like a wrist
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  Speaker 3: thing because I fucked up my wrist and my ankle
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  Speaker 3: and I'm at the bar and one of my buddies
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  Speaker 3: who plays on the hockey team is like, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: got to tell you something, like your girlfriend... She's been
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  Speaker 3: sleeping with one of the hockey guys. So I power
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  Speaker 3: walked my ass to that house, kicked the door down,
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  Speaker 3: went to his bedroom, and I like made him call her.
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  Speaker 3: And then two days later, I went to his house.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, tell me everything. Tell me everything that happened.
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  Speaker 3: And he told me everything. And bro, everything he said
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  Speaker 3: hurt more than the last thing.
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  Speaker 2: It was so painful. It hurt so bad.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a weirdo like that. I gotta know.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, dude. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing. No, no.
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  Speaker 2: I understand why you may want to know. But like, man, nah.
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  Speaker 2: What if she... That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: She in there telling you like, yeah, nah. Well, me
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  Speaker 5: and two other girls is in there and... It was him,
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  Speaker 5: and then you're like, wait, what?
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  Speaker 2: Two other girls. That would hurt the most. You didn't
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  Speaker 2: do that with me, but you're doing it with this
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  Speaker 2: new guy?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, listen, I understand. I understand where I'm wrong here.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm, like, not on the right. But everything hurt, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Are you picking up everything Chris is saying?
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  Speaker 6: All right, good, because I see that microphone sitting a
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  Speaker 6: little far away.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get scared.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in now.
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  Speaker 3: This has been best buzz since 2008?
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  Speaker 4: What sparked it off?
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  Speaker 3: Like, how did you guys meet?
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  Speaker 2: Like, was it like.
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  Speaker 3: sparks flying right away, or did it take a minute?
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  Speaker 1: Well, with me, when I came, well, he was already here,
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  Speaker 1: then I got drafted. And then, you know, they was
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  Speaker 1: coming off, when I was coming in, that's before I
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  Speaker 1: got here, I knew about, like, the USC Texas. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So Vince was here. He was
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  Speaker 1: here or whatever. So, like, just me getting drafted and
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  Speaker 1: me coming in, I'm seeing these guys, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: were like celebrities. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So those college kids, you know, they were like celebrities.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: USC with the Reggie Bush, the Lindell White, Vince Young.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I come in here, I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with these guys.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: And then just going from there and then like, I
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  Speaker 1: stayed in Brentwood.
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  Speaker 4: He stayed off, was that Westwood?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Green Hills.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like by Green Hills. So like, man, me leaving
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  Speaker 1: the facility every day, like going, on the way going home,
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  Speaker 1: I'm stopping by his house. Know what I'm saying? I'm
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  Speaker 1: fitting the hand with Lindell White about that. Know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So like, just going from there, man, and
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  Speaker 1: it was crazy. And then like, When I got here,
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  Speaker 1: his brothers and cousins was here. And then my brothers was,
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  Speaker 1: they moved up here with me. So they used to
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  Speaker 1: hang out all the time. Like, know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: We gone away games or at practice.
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  Speaker 2: We was with each other.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: So then like, you know, getting out of practice and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And after the games, you know, we wanted to meet
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  Speaker 1: up with them. Know what I'm saying? So like, it
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  Speaker 1: just been that way the whole time. And then like,
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  Speaker 1: when he end up leaving, or whatever, I was calling him.
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  Speaker 1: It was this one situation. I was calling him like, bro, man,
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  Speaker 1: come to Nashville. So he kept giving me these excuses
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. I was depressed as fuck.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't going to lie. What were you depressed about?
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  Speaker 2: I got cut, was done playing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: In that moment, you ain't thinking, like, especially when you
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  Speaker 5: don't get no calls. Like one year, you're like, cool,
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  Speaker 5: you still working out. You're like, man, it might be
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  Speaker 5: the end of the year. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: And it's crazy because you see dogs like Marshawn, AP,
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  Speaker 5: and some of them, they do whatever they want.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? They come back, pick me up.
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  Speaker 5: And you're like, man, I ain't getting not one call.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? So it messes with you.
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  Speaker 5: And then, you know, this is 2K.
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  Speaker 2: I seen it. You know what I'm saying? He balled out.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just like, man, I can't. What am I
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  Speaker 5: going to do up there with him? Like, he's living
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  Speaker 5: his best life. Man, I'm an old, retired dude. You
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: I'm broke now. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: Like, what can I really do? So at the same time,
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  Speaker 5: he keep calling me like, man, like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Come out here.
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  Speaker 5: I'm making every excuse in the world. I remember this
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  Speaker 5: like clockwork. I'm like, oh, man, I got to hang
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  Speaker 5: out here.
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  Speaker 2: My mom needs me to do this. The dog's over there.
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  Speaker 2: He might need to walk him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, whatever.
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  Speaker 5: So one day, he just finally calls. Hey, listen, Mike
• 11:57
  Speaker 5: Moon booked your ticket. I'm going to see you Friday.
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: I don't want to hear nothing else.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: And I got here.
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: And I'll never forget it, man. Like, I was hurting
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: and all. And the man gave me like a couple
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: green cards, like some money. Like, dude, go get whatever
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: you need. Take these cars.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Hang out. And I'm like, man, what? You know what
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Yeah, that's awesome. So I'm chilling.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: And as I'm chilling, he's taking me back out.
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: And I'll never forget at my birthday, man, he had
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: like a little party he threw for me, man. And
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: he went on stage and he like called me out
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: and did, you know, like, and I just remember in
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: that moment, like, man, I'm so thankful because I don't
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: know where I would have been because like life after
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: football is probably the roughest shit in the world, man.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: It's the roughest. Our whole life is football. Everything since
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: you were a kid.
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: Not only that, but being picked up by Snoop at
• 12:48
  Speaker 6: College Planet SC, playing around that team, being national champions.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: People dating celebrities back then.
• 12:52
  Speaker 6: You're Lindell White smashing Dash here, and then you go
• 12:55
  Speaker 6: to getting cut. Yeah, I'm sure it's like just flipped
• 12:57
  Speaker 6: on your head.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: You get cut. You know what I'm saying?
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: You're walking around like.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Man, you look good, man.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Why ain't you?
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: And you're like, man, I'm winning the same thing. You
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, it does something to your sight, but thank
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: God that he was around because he's like, man, you Lindell.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You go to these games,
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: you look around, you know what I mean?
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: Your jersey's like, you can make it, you gotta think
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: you're better than that. He's like, man, I grew up
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: on you, what you mean? And you know, from there, man,
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: it's been, that was what, like 2012? That was your
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: last year at the Titans.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, like 2012. Y'all had been calling them since
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: like 2011? Yeah, it was a long, and I was
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: bucking it.
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I'm going to come out there. I'm
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: going to come hang out. I'm going to get there, man.
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: I'm going to get there. And everybody like, man, what
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: are you doing?
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Why ain't you here? And I'm like, oh, man, I
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: was depressed. That shit was rough. When you got cut,
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: you went back home? Yeah. Went back home to hang out?
• 13:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I was in Denver. So I'm from Denver. I
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: was playing with the Broncos. And then I get cut.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: So that's like even worse. It's the double smack, you know. Yeah,
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: the hometown team. Man, every time I walk in, and
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: this is like, I'm like, yeah, they've been seeing me
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: their whole life. So now it's like a couple months
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: ago or two weeks ago, it's like, man, we're going
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: to see.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: You on Monday.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: And then now it's like, man, we heard you got cut.
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: And you're just walking around there. And everywhere you go,
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: that's what you hear. So, yeah, it got to a
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: point where I was in my mom's basement, like smoking
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: so much weed.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Probably drinking lean every damn day. Like, you know what
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: It was like, I was floating and didn't, didn't, I
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: didn't care about like what was going to happen next.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: It was to a point where I didn't give a damn.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Like I said, if he didn't call me, ain't no
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: telling what would happen. So yeah. I feel like that's
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: what it was.
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: Or do you feel like there were other moments that,
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: that showed you like, okay, I can, I can pivot
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: this way or make this move and get out of
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: the hole that it seemed like you were in.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Getting out there and being around just him. You know
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: Like it was like, When I got here, he treated
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: me like I was still Lindell. Like, you can drive
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: whatever car you want, do whatever you need to do.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Just go out there.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Like, hang out. You don't need me. You know what
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Did you see that he was struggling?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I didn't know. You know me, shit.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just... You know I'm still playing. And like I
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: was saying before, our normal routine was we go to practice,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I go to his house, then I go home. Or...
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: if we finna go out, me and all my brothers,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: we get dressed, we come to his house and we
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: all go out. So that's what I was just used to.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: So then when he left, it wasn't that no more.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying? So like, you know, I was
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: calling him, I'm calling like, bro, what you got going on?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Because I remember, um, he came out here, but he
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: was hurt. I think he tore his Achilles or something.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: He came out here, I had seen him downtown or whatever.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: And then like, after that, like, I'm calling like, bro,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: when you coming back? Like, You know what I'm saying?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Come out here. It was a thing. I'm just like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: come out here for the game or something like that.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? The crazy thing about it
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: is once he came out here, from then on all
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the way until I retired, he was with me. When
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I left here, I went to New York. You know
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? He was with me. Went to Arizona
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: for three years. He was with me the whole time.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It was just crazy. I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: didn't know he was going through what he was going through.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, bro, you tripping, man. I'm like, man, listen,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm finna call my assistant right now. Book his ticket, man.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I know if I book his ticket, he ain't just
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: gonna let me spend my money and not get on
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the flight. So I booked a ticket. I had my
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: assistant call him or whatever like that. And he came.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: And then ever since then, it's just been up.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: Did you ever talk to him about you struggling? Did
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: you ever catch on and realize he was struggling? The
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: only reason I continue to like Prada is I think
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: it's important.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: This is what people need to know.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Being a Lindell White figure, you're right. I remember watching
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: you guys, you play. And going through what you're going
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: through post-football, I'm just curious the entire dynamic of it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys going through what you're going
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: through right now.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think, well, he knew, but you don't know until....
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: The roles reversed later on. After 2018, something happened to his.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: He just got cut on some bull crap. Like, he
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: should have still been playing. But then, like, you basically
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: don't get it. You get calls, but you ain't playing
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: for no minimum when you two. Like, you know, when
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: you certain people, you're like, I ain't doing that no more.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Like, you got to be right.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: So it's like when you don't get the calls of
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: the people that you want, like, he ended up going
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: through it on the back end. And then I was there.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, you know, I, you know, talk to
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: him about it. Like, going through it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Like, you 2K' d.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Play 10 and you about to go to the hall
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: of fame like you know what i'm saying and but
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: he i think in that moment that's when he understood
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: like what what he did for me back then you
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: know what i'm saying because he it took you don't
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: really understand why you plan none of us do because
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: man them checks coming in and the women and the
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: lifestyle that's what it is that lifestyle there's nothing like
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: that i don't care what i'm You can make all
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: the money in the world, but being an actual professional athlete,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: the plane rides, the access you have, there's nothing like that, man.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: And then when it's cut off and you be like, damn,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: I'm just regular Lindell again.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Once you hit a certain, like what Will's saying, once
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: you hit a certain point in your life, like there's
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: dudes that grew up on you. Like there's guys that
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: like saw you play, like you'll never just be regular
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: old Lindell anymore.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And that's what I had to, you know, You had
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to figure that out for yourself, yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Because, like, I don't know when you guys started playing football,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: but most kids start playing when they're eight, nine years old. Like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you just start playing football, and that's all you know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And then you realize, oh, I'm super fast.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm real powerful.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I can legit make something happen out of this. And
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: it becomes your entire life.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: So you go from spending your whole life focused on
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: one thing to being, like, done. That's got to be
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: a hard transition.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Your entire childhood. Definitely hard.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: To get to the league at 21 to 23, to
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: playing a career that just doesn't usually last until.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The average career is three years, but let's just say
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: 30 years old. And then it's done. You have more
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: than half your life left and you spent the entirety
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: of it. Hopefully you got 60 more years to live.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I hope I don't go to 90.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: That'd be tough. That's a long time.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I know, but I wouldn't be mad.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is if you, that's just 30
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: is done.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Then you got 60 more.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah your homeboys that we went to school with they
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: doctors they chemists they you know and they've been in
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: a profession for 15 years now.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: To go off of that like when you first get
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: in the league and you're like i just left everybody
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: in college and everyone's like has debt everyone has to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: like go and like make it you're making 40,000 a
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: year then 60,000 a year and then you play as
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: long as y'all did you're looking at these guys like
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: okay now they're making a good living consistently like how
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: did i do it how did i do with my
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: money like what's the deal? Because five years ago, anyone
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: who brought up your name's like, bro, he's killing it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: He's this.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: And then eventually it becomes, yeah, man, he had a
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: great career. He's retired now.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And it's just how it is.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: People are in their 30s and 40s and making their
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: consistent living.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: And then it's like, as an athlete, you come out
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: of it and you kind of, there's this weird shift
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: of like, you don't feel, you don't feel like you can.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Like, be around them, I guess.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Or you feel like they're looking down on you because
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: you're now out of it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: The weirdest thing, too, for me is, like, when I'm
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: playing with all my boys in high school and I
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: go to college, like, it's super cool to them. But eventually, like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: you go home one time and it could be, like...
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: five years after college. It could be three years after college.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It could be the first year after college. And, like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, like, your boys, like, don't even
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: really watch football anymore. They've moved on and, like, don't really, like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: care about football the way you're, like, damn.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Like, you guys aren't in it like this?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: You guys didn't watch the game on Sunday? Like, what
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: do you mean? Like, this is it, right? Like, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: everyone's like, no, man, I'm a plumber. Like, I got
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: plum shit.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Like, they're living their lives.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And at first, like, you know, like, I didn't have
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: this mindset. I wasn't ever thinking, like, man, I'm doing
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: so good in them. But like, eventually you get to
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the end and you're looking and it's like, man, look
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: how well they've done. And so then they had no
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: idea what was coming. Like for all of us, it
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: was like in our head written at some point, like, okay,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: we are going to go to the NFL. We're going
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: to play in the NFL. And then we just did it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Like they had to like go be like, I'm going
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: To the NFL.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, I didn't even get a scholarship for college.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I got to go reroute and find something else to do.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And they had to maneuver through all this adversity that
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: like you were going through and now you're going through.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: And Willie, you've been playing for 15 more years. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: feel like dude, like, This man, he's got something going
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: like crazy with the NFL right now.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So it's just like a wild deal. We're all screwed
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: except for Will. We're all screwed.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: We've been in the lab.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: It's all we need.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all we need.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Did you get that credited season? You're 10 Willie, dude.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Honestly, that was always a big thing, too, with the podcast.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: I remember in 2018 playing on the Titans. And I
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: was a backup and nobody, usually when you're a backup,
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: you need somebody to go down if you're going to
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: get filmed to where you can get another opportunity the
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: next year. And so when I didn't get any of
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: that and I was just a special teams guy, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: was like, man, I'm going to play for minimum next year. Like,
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: I don't want to have to be on a roster,
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: on a 90-man roster and make the 53 every year.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want to have to do that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: So I need to start figuring out what I'm curious
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: about or what I enjoy because this is going to
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: start coming at me faster than I realize. Because when
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: it hits you and it's done, it's like it's over.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: And there was a part of me that thought, like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: it might be done then, so... I wanted to like
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: get on the podcast wave, like while you're still like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: you know, when you're playing it's, you have more flair,
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: you have more spice.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: You got more to it. Your jokes are funny.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: I say it all the time. Your jokes are funny.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: You're better looking. And you can shake more hands when
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: you're playing.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: And then when you're doing it outside of playing or
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: after playing, you know the feel. Like when alumni or
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: other players come in and talk to the team, like
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: sometimes they hit, but sometimes like, you know how you
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: and the.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Fellas are in the locker room?
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Man, let it go. Get over it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: As soon as you get in there, you're laughing at
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a dude.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Like, man, you're that old-ass dude, man.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: That's a wild deal when people start calling you old.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I don't even feel like I've been in the league
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: for a couple years. I feel like an old head.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You're like, come on.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: That's a tough thing to hear. That's a tough thing
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: to hear. You were talking earlier, you guys had your cousin,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: your brothers, you had your brothers with you. How did
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: that dynamic work when you guys first got in the league?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Was there any turmoil there at first? Were people kind
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: of reaching.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Out a little bit?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Or was it like, this is my obligation to them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: They deserve this.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Well, with me, it was crazy. I ain't going to
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: even lie.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So when I got up here, I bought a house
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in Brentwood.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: 10,000 square feet.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Big money. First round.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: First round.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: 4-2.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, Taylor knows. Hey, relax, relax, relax.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: The reason why I asked is I brought two of
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: my buddies from home, too, and my brother. And I
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: was like, you know the show Entourage?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is going to be my life, dude.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be living like this.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: So it was crazy.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: So, you know, when you first get here, you got
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: recommended camp, then you got training camp. So I got
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: this house. I'd never been in it before, right? So
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: my mom came up. She furnished the house and stuff.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: So as soon as we break camp, I go to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the house. I'm like, where the hell am I in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: this big house by myself? I'm hearing shit. And I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: called my mom.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I was getting scared at night.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was getting scared at night.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I still get scared at night. I'm with you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: We were scared at night. So I talked to my
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: brother or whatever. I was trying to get him to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: come up here. He was undecided. So, man, I called
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: my mom. I'm like, man, you got to call my brother, though.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: They got to come up here. You got to convince
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: them to come up here. So she called my brother down.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: She convinced them. They moved up here. And then it was, man,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it was just crazy. Like, you know, I got three
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: older brothers. So I've just been around them all my
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: whole life. Now I'm up here. I can provide for them. Like, man,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: we just, we hanging. You know what I'm saying? Y'all
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: come up here. Y'all good.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Y'all ain't got to worry about no bills, no nothing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Come on. We hanging. So it was lovely.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. What do they do now?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So the crazy thing about it, they still live here.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Do they really? I left, and they still live here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Nashville does that to you, huh?
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It really does.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It'll take you away. It'll keep you there.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So now I be calling them now, trying to convince
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: them to move back to Florida. Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: They ain't going nowhere.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: So you're back in Florida now?
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in Florida, Orlando, yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about coming back to Nashville and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: staying full time?
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Me?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought about it. I thought about it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Not long.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like not very long.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: It had to be, like, a good business opportunity.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a good business opportunity, that probably would do it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'd come back just to live, just
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to be here. Yeah. If it was a nice business
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: opportunity for me, then I would.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's, I mean, Nashville, I was with a guy
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: yesterday who played for the Predators, and he just retired.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And he was saying, like, he was thinking about going
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: home or whatever, but he's like, When I was with
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: the Predators, we went to the Stanley Cup Finals. Like, he's, like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: cemented himself in, like, the culture of Nashville. He's like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: now that I'm retired, like, I still get to reap
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the benefits of, like, being a part of something and, like, knowing, like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: people knowing who I am. And, you know, how's something
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: as simple as having, like, an easy time at the DMV? Or, like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: getting into the dentist easy? Like, things just move a little, like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: smoother when you've been in a place where you've been
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: able to, like, make a dent socially.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how it is for Floyd. I mean,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You're national, you know what I'm saying? So like when
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you're in Florida, I'm sure stuff's easy for you there too.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: It's all good. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, did the bills ever get like,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: you talked about paying the bills and everything else, did
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: they get a little tighter like later on in the career?
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Because I feel like this is a conversation I'm always
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: curious about because everybody in the locker room talks about everyone,
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: like at the end of the day, seven out of
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: ten guys have financial trouble like years after the league. Right.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: And everybody in the locker room at the time swears
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: everybody's doing fine, like swears they got investments going, they
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: got this going. But did it ever get that way
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: for you, like, later in your career or you later
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: in your career?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It really wasn't for me because when I left, so
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I was six years here. When I left, they stayed here.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So they got their own house,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: got their own. They then came up here and started
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: families and all that. So you know what I'm saying?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So when I end up leaving and going to New York,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: In Arizona, it was just me and him.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And then I was here in 10,000 square foot when
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I went to New York. It was still a little expensive,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but it was cheaper for me because I'm just like
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: in a condo. Know what I'm saying? Then when I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: went to Arizona, I'm in a condo again. Know what
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So it kind of got cheaper for me
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: when I left.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Makes sense.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, for me, I mean, I never made that
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: kind of crazy money, and I definitely was one of
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: those guys that just wanted to look out for my
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: family all the time.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So as it got later on, yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: It got harder, or once it stopped coming, it's like,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: oh shit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: You try to let them know. You be like, hey, listen,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I need y'all to... They ain't trying to hear that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: People get used to it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: People get used.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: To it, yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: They're not here.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: They've been an easy way out for so long.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: They're like, what you mean? I might have to work
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: again or help with some mortgage or something. You know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: you're like, man, yeah. Like, it's four years later, man. Like,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: how much y'all think this money gonna last? I didn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: sign for... You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: a real conversation. That's even for people that made a
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: lot of money.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Because if you... Like, the lifestyle you live while you're
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: playing is expensive.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Miami weekends and Super Bowl weekends.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It adds up. You know what I mean?
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: So, if you're... hanging like that you gotta just look
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: at it and make sure you're watching the people watching
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: your money if you do have that because people steal
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: you know we hear about this all the time where
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: you think you're having money and people were stealing two
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: three million dollars from you in your face so it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: like yeah you just gotta make sure you keep them
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: ducks in a row I don't care how much money
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: you make and yes don't spend it like it's okay
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: to you can spend it on you but you don't
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: have to spend it on everybody else right like listen
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: everybody has an opportunity to make their money now if
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: I look out for you that's what I want to
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: do but it's not my obligation yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah All that new NIL deal stuff coming in college,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: they should put something in place.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Man, I wish.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: They should put something in place to make these dudes
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: like a little more financial, have a little more financial education.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: SC, I know I can speak for that, but even
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: we was at Clemson earlier.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got paid at SC for sure, right?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Come on now. We've been out for too long.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Reggie Bush had a house in Malibu.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Like, you're all good. You were with Reggie.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Like, we got him.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: He's my big cousin.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we ain't talking about.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Transparency, though.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: He gave me $ 100, 000, so... We're talking to other people, man.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I'm at SC with 100 grand. Them other people, we
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: ain't talking about transparency. We're talking to other people.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That's family.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's family, yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: He can give you probably... When you were at USC,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that was like USC.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: When I was in high school in Arizona, I wanted
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: to go to USC or Texas or any SEC school
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: besides Vanderbilt, Kentucky. But, like, USC was it, dude. And
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: you knew what was going on, bro.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: That's it, bro.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: How do you get all these dudes into Compton? You
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? I don't know.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure it out.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: No one's going to hear this.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't give a damn. I might have made a
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: few dollars. I don't really remember. Put it like this.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel came on.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I was talking about how much money he was making
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: off signing jerseys.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Well, Johnny Manziel was... How much was he making? He
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: was social media, y'all. He's the beginning of social media.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: He was the.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? So that was the way
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Johnny Football... It was amazing. I can only imagine what
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: he was.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Doing in Texas. Fred Taylor said he had a bag
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of like, what was it? Was it 50?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: 50.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: 50,000.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: From Georgia. Is Georgia or Florida one of them? He
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: went to Florida, right?
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: He went to Florida.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Georgia gave it to him. Georgia gave it to him
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and he kept it, dude. Yeah, that's what you got
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And then still went to Florida. Did you ever have
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: any situations like that at SC around that kind of squad?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, we know. We just needed to be open
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: He said, I mean, we.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Right. You know what I'm saying?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: We're coming to you next. You go ahead and get
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: your stories ready because.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. We'll see you.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: They weren't giving no money away at ECU, man.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: My mama, like, I hear this story about the $ 750, 000 house, and.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: My mama didn't have all that, so I don't know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: I didn't, my parents didn't move when they said we
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: was about to go to the draft, so I don't know, man.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: What car did you drive in college?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: A Lexus GS400.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: The stipends must have been pretty good in California.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't know $ 1, 200 a month.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Could get you that. That's crazy, dude.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: That is wild.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: He was living where?
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Bro, I wish I got paid in college. I would
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: have took it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I was downtown.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: He was downtown LA living. Nice condo.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: We talk about coaches. We talk about boosters. I don't
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: really know what a booster or a coach is. He
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't know what a coach is.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: All I know is that I had a nice house
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: or a nice apartment, and when I went in there,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I know that there was.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Somebody left something behind.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was for me or not,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: but I never told anybody that they left it there,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: and I kept it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: What's the most amount of money you've seen left somewhere
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that you, you know?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Here's an example.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: I didn't know if it was yours or not. Not
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: that we can prove or deny, but what's the largest amount?
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, when he was a junior, was going to
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: go into the draft, and he went to his mailbox.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: There was $ 500, 000 sitting there for him. For real? Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: $ 500, 000 waiting for him.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: At his mailbox?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: At his mailbox.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And he left it and went to the draft and
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: made $ 50 million.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: We're in the moment right now. What's the most amount
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: you've seen?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe about $ 150. Plus.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: We talking.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: We talking. This is all just, yeah, that's cash. Rubber bands.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Getting picked up by Snoop Dogg. What's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: your best story with Snoop?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: How did you meet Snoop?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I went on tour with Snoop. So it's crazy.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: One day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's already good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: One day, like, we were winning, and he's always been
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: an SC guy. Him and his wife, Shantae, because her
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: cousin actually went to USC. He was a safety for us.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: So they were always around the program. And Herschel Dennis
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: was from Long Beach, was the running back. He was
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: pretty big with Herschel, I mean, with Snoop, and he
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: knew him. So one time after practice, like, he's like,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: I want you to go with me somewhere, and I
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: went over there. And, like, as I go over there,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: you know, like, we open up the trailer or whatnot,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, what the hell is going on?
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: And we walk in, and all I do, he's like,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: L motherfucking W. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking like,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: what the fuck?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I'm freaking out. Like, this
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: is Snoop right now. You know what I'm saying? And
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: he's like, 2-1. You know what I mean? He giving me, like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Colorado gangsta. You know, he just calling out. How does
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: he know all this shit?
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, once you know him, you understand that
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: football is what he does. So he knows everybody like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: And he's like, man, you cold? And we just started talking,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: and I'm on that plane. I mean, something like this,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: getting so high, it's ridiculous with Snoop. And I ain't
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: no way I was going to turn down that fade.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And he passing it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I'm grabbing it. I'm hitting it. And I just remember
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: at one point, I know.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I fell asleep for at least 30 minutes, but I
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: probably was used to it because that kush was crazy strong.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I'm coming from Colorado.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: He's killing people. He's killing people out there.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Before it became super exotic, all the crazy names, it
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: was just some OG kush, and that shit used to
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: pound me.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: So I'm in there and they're just hanging. And then
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I remember the next day, he's like, man, you come
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: out to the house and come hang out. We're cooking
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: on it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, what? And we had the sidekicks.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: That was the best phone.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I swear.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And he had the BlackBerry Pearl. Those phones. Yeah, we
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: all had the info. We sent like, it was crazy, man.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: The next day we pull up to the house behind
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: the gates and I'm just like, this is fucking nuts.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I'm hanging out with Snoop Dogg.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Were you a little bit nervous to go back to
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the house knowing you were going to get so high again?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Um nah see then i would.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Have been terrified like i can't go through that again and.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: I'm like nah i got something for that i'm a
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: i know how to pace myself i ain't gonna hit
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: every blunt you know one time pass it and get
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: it off me man but nah i was i was
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: 18 i was so anxious to go to snoop dog's
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: house yeah then i met you know um corday and
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: um you know um his kids cory and all them
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: like i Like, I was, I knew them, you know
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying? I'm hanging out with them. They come
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: into the games. They wearing my jerseys. It was crazy, man.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: His wife, Shante, was like, she was one of our
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: big sisters. She would come pick us up, you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: get us some food or whatever. Like, she was nice. Hell, man,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: it was crazy. I was just like, I can't believe
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: this is my life. And then, that was like my
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: freshman year. So, the whole time I'm at USC, I'm
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: with Snoop. This never stops, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Picks me up from class, like, I'll never forget it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: The girls came in there like, man, Snoop Dogg's outside.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: You walk, take your book bag, walk out there.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: We had class checkers and all. At that point, I
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: didn't care, man.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I remember Snoop or Pete calling and I'm like, man,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: is Lindell with you? And he was like, man, shut up, nigga.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I'll never forget it. How
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: did Pete handle that?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: He was mad as hell.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Pete probably... He called Snoop and Snoop said that to Pete?
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: What'd he say?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: What'd he say to Pete? I don't remember.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: We'll have to hold it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: The funniest shit ever man and then yeah Pete was
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: pissed off at me me and Pete had a relationship
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: like that though man like he was my guy but
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: at the same time he knew like I just wasn't
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: under that same Pete shit.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: He didn't woo me like he wooed everybody.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: He wooed the hell out of me, dude. I went
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: out there for a junior day, and he gave me
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: a hug when I first met him.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, yes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Now, the man know how
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to get it out tonight.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Bro, he does.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: The man, he's the ultimate.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I call him the finesse guy because he can make
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: anything look like something else now.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? He got up out of
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: there right before he got a little dicey. What a genius.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: It makes sense, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know, the coach
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: is getting in trouble.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I'm like, how did a running back coach— If the
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: running back coach knows something, then somebody else knows something.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Not Pete. Not Pete at all.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Not Pete.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: He was gone, dude.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: He was out of there.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Talking about went up there, got that good money.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: And he's killing it Seattle now. He had Geno Smith
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: as a quarterback.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Geno.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: He's got him looking like that first rounder.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: He got him looking good.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody in Seattle's So happy.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: We got Russ looking like, man, Bronco country ain't riding.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: No, they are not riding right now.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: He's looking bad, dude. Yeah, Pete's a stud. He's a stud.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my guy. People always ask me about him and, like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: my time with him. And it's like, man, I wouldn't
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: trade that shit for the world. Like, what we did
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: and accomplished is, like, why would I never, I only
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: wanted to play for him then.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: But that was also before it became Pete Carroll. Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Once you win back to back and you play in
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: the three straight national champions and then you, you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: like that's the Pete Carroll, that's Pete Carroll now.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: I knew him when he, like you said, when you
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: come in the, in your mom's room and he's, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: honest with you and he's telling the truth.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I knew his wife.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I knew Brennan Carroll. I knew his, like, you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I'm staying at the beach house. This is like, you
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? So like I knew him and
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: then it, He traded for me in Seattle, and then
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: he cut me. That's a crazy story.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: How did that conversation go when he got here? He
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: picked up Marshawn Lynch. How weird is that? Yeah. Marshawn's
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, but you picked the same.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Come on, at this time, it's like, bro, I talk shit,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: he talks shit.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: But that conversation was like a crazy one. I cussed
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: his ass out, man, because... I was so angry at
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: him because, like, man, I know the NFL was a business,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: but what are you thinking when you're playing with a
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: guy that knew you since you was a baby?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, man, you've been knowing me. Like, so I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: would have thought the way he cut me was a
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: piece of shit.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Man, I'm literally, I just practiced OTAs.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: This is Memorial Weekend, y'all. Memorial. Supposed to be a
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: great weekend. We're going to Vegas. Yeah. Everybody's going to Vegas.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: He knows that. Man, I'm walking off the field. It's me,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Mike Williamson.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Kenichi Udaisian, Steve Sarkeesian, because Sark was coaching for Washington
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: at the time. So it's like a big-ass SC reunion.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I hug him.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I'll never forget.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: He's like, how are you, man? Enjoy your time. Do
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: all that. I'm like, all right, two feet.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I'll see you later.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I land in Vegas.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I go to the hotel, you guys. It's a true-ass story.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at a sports center with all. Imagine being
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: there with every one of your old teammates or whoever.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: What? He cut. That's how you found out you got cut?
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: What?
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: And he hugged you. He hugged you.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: He was like, hey, man, have a great day.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It's the same day, though, right?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: It's the same day.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: It's the same day.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: This is four hours later. It's five from Seattle to Vegas.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I go on TV, and I'm looking at this. I'll
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: never forget it, because Drew calling me, Drew Rosenhaus. This
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: is maybe like an hour after I land in Vegas,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: but I'll go down there, and Drew's like blowing me up,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, what the fuck does he want?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: And finally, I answered.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He's like, man, what'd you do down there?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but clearly I'm seeing it. Like, you
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: know yeah like i would have thought at least he
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: would have called me i'm like i he don't owe
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: me shit let's be real like you know once you're
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: in this business you know they don't owe you anything
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: but i my relationship with him thought he would at
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: least call me like man listen Whatever you did at
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: practice or whatever, your mind ain't here. I don't want
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: you on the team right now. I don't think you're
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: ready for what I got. I would have handled it
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: a way better. But to see my name on TV
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: and not know who you are, Like, that shit was
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: cowardice to me. Like, to me, that was like, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: that's what I expressed to him.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I MF'd him. Oh, you did speak to him?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: What?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I called him, yeah.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: He picked up? Yeah, he knew he had to. Yeah,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have picked up. I'd
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: have been like, I'll get that on Monday. I'll get
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: that on the weekend.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: But he's, that's what I'm saying, he's a finesser. Oh, man, man,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: you know, he's doing all that shit. And I'm just, like,
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: so angry. But I know who this guy is. So, like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm that angry.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Because I know who he is.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: It's the same guy. I know him, but still, I
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: would play for that guy all over again.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: This is the moment of being that angry. Seattle shit? No,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I would have never.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: No.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I would have never left Tennessee. I would have told
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Jeff Fisher, no, I ain't going.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: But if you're getting traded, don't you have to go?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, I don't have to show up.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He requested.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Remember when he requested a trade?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Grom was getting traded to Detroit, right? He said, David,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: trade me this trade. I'm retiring. Yeah. That's crazy. You
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: requested a trade, right? But listen, that's what I mean. Yeah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: he requested it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I was being young and dumb back then.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: But also, you got to think, this is 2K. You
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: requested a trade.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: But it's 2K.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: But also, yeah, when I requested a trade, he just
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: ran for 2K.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: You damn right, I better get the hell up out
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: of here. You see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So at the same time, y'all.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: But knowing what I know now, I would have took
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: my Rockefeller hush-up money, man.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Give me my little four
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: or five million. He's the guy. I'm okay backing him up.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't need CTE,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: although we probably all got it. But you know what
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: You know, don't put the evil on us. Don't put
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the evil on us.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just being, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Stop that.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. But yeah, like I.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Asked Jeff and I can't lie. Me and Jeff, I
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: had a great relationship with Fish, man.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Seems like everyone did. Seems like everyone loved Jeff.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I called him one day like, man, like, what do
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: you think I should do about the situation? He was like, man, Linda,
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: whatever you really want to do is like it's ultimately
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: up to you. He was like, man, you know what
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: he's doing right now. It's not like we're going to
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: bench him right now. You will definitely still get carries.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: But I'm thinking at this time, I'm still in number one.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, yeah, I need a fresh start somewhere.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: And then on draft day, I get called from Pete.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Y'all don't understand. I'm ecstatic. I'm like, damn, my old
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: coach just traded for me. Yeah, that'd be sick. You
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like, hell yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: You got a great relationship with him. You think that's
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: good now.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Second round pick. I'm like, I'm going back to home. Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And all the fucking coaches are there, y'all. The same
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: guys from SC are there.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Y'all so smart getting out of there.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: And it's crazy because, like, yeah, like, I think they...
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: I'm in the league now, guys. I'm not that little Lindell,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Like, y'all new here. Y'all are rookies.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: In the league.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Like, how you gonna.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I know you're a coach, but you're a rookie coach now. Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Don't come in here... Like, and it was crazy. He
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: went up to Seattle cutting everybody. It was, like, me,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Lofa Tatupu, TJ Hoosman. Like, he was trying to get... Like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? People that wasn't on that
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: shit that he was on, he was like, yeah, they
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: gotta go.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: But, you know, like.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: man, I just thought it was going to be a match, man. Like,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: I just knew it because I know the offense. Like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I know what the hell is going on. My old coach, Sherman,
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: was my coach my rookie year, was the running back
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: coach now there at, you know, Seattle. So I'm just
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: thinking it. We had Quinton Ganther out there with me.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Kevin Vickerson got traded with. So I'm like, man, I'll
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: be cool. I got people here with me.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. What? I'm cut. Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like he could have done that a
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: lot better.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Bro, it's on the TV, on ESPN. At least even
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: at the end of that practice, hey, man, come into
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: the office real quick.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah. If there's anything you did that led to it,
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: like you feel like you slacked off the opportunity a
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: little bit, knowing like you were going back to all
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: your old coaches, you're.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Kind of the big dog on TV.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, longer leash. Yeah.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably, I probably, yeah, I probably, yeah, I
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: probably did do that. Not knowingly, but yeah. I probably
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: thought I was, like you said, the big dog around it.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: But yeah, like you said, these are my strength coach from,
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: I've been knowing y'all for the last, this is 10 years.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? If there is an issue,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: y'all should be like, Lindell, let me holla at you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Be able to bring you in the room.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: The new guy that y'all come in and you ain't like,
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: you know my mom. Y'all sent me, you know my
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: grandma sent, like y'all knew, you know what I'm saying?
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: So what are you talking about? Man, so he cut me, man.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I went home.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I'm in Denver. Just chilling, like, you know what I'm saying?
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: How'd the rest of that weekend in Vegas go? Did
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: you shake it off?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: You know it. Yes and no.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he shook it off.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: It's hard to shake it off.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, I probably, I don't know, I think I
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: did some modeling and all kinds of shit.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: So, of course, I shook it off.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: You're feeling a whole lot better, huh?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to shake it off. I was
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: trying to hang out. Yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: But then, you know, imagine that Molly and you realize
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: your ass got cut.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you don't realize you got cut on Molly until
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Molly's gone.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, no. No, no, no. No, you notice.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Because you with, I'm with Reggie, I'm with CJ, I'm with,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: I'm with everybody in the league.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: There goes Don and McNab. There goes Javon cursing him.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Guess who, guess who cut though? Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So naturally, Molly started getting you over there. They like,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: you all right?
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: I ain't paying for shit, though, this weekend.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Fuck y'all.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: You didn't pay for a thing, did you?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Nah, boy. I ain't got nothing, man. I ain't got nothing, man.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: How did you feel for him? You were with him
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: in Vegas? I think my dog, he knew.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: So he ain't been with him.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was with him.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: He's been punking the Titans.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: He's been getting all kind of free money all year.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: I ain't coming to camp unless y'all give me five moments.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: So he's like, yeah, I got you, though. I'm like,
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: you think it's a bitch, but I'm punking the Titans.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: He said he was punking the Titans.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Punking the Titans.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Was there ever any animosity with y'all two in the
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: room as he started to take over the RB1?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Hell no.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Bro, that's what's so crazy. Let me be real with it,
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: and this is for any kid or anybody looking out there.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: You can't be mad at greatness. I played with Reggie
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: Bush and Chris Johnson. Imagine that in your career.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: But also, I got to witness some of the dopest,
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, two of the greatest running
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: backs ever, but they also helped me elevate my game.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: And I seen how hard this man worked, y'all. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: was one of them dudes at the Titans, like, yes,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: On Monday, yes, as soon as they say you can break,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I'm breaking. I'm trying to go to, you know, hang
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: out Mondays. I'm trying to get tipsy and have a
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: good time, whatever. I'll walk by the rooms. He and,
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: you know, the good boy, you know what I mean?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Come on, bro.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: He ain't really watching.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I'm watching, bro.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm watching. The man probably texting you or anything, but.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Look, and then you go back into the training room.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: You're like, what's going on, dog? I thought you said
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: you were about to meet me. I'm going to see
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: you in about two hours.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what?
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: I never caught on, you know what I'm saying? Naturally,
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: when you see it a year later, it makes sense. But, no, again,
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: I can't be mad at that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: That's hard work. That's dedication. Like you said, he came
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: from ECU.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe my USC and being that big dog probably got
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? He had to work a
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: little harder. He wasn't on the radar. He wasn't Reggie.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? And then coming here and
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: seeing that, he's like, I'm playing with Linda. I probably
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: got to turn up anyway. You know what I'm saying?
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: And he was cold. I mean, the first game I
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: ever seen him play, what was the preseason? Did you
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: play the, right?
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Rounds. Rounds game.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you ran for over 1,000 your rookie year, right?
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Listen, bro, I'm telling you, from the first preseason game,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: if y'all know football, man, when you see how he
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: boom-boom and ran over and kept.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Going, like, was it 60-69 or something? I was like, oh,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: You think I'm in trouble.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: Man, in my head, I'm like, how the hell? Like,
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: how did I go from Reggie to this dude? Yeah,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: that's got to be fucking tough.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And he running crazy.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: Like, it ain't no, I'm bouncing. It's like, I'm trying
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: to drop the shoulder. I'm like, how this little dude
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: want to run with power all of a sudden?
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I was 200, bro. I was 190.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: On a great day. On a great day.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Is he lying or telling the truth?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: He's lying. He's lying. Bro, go look at him.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Ask him.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Steve used to help him with his weight, too. Oh,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: ask him.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Watterson, put the five-pound pot in your pocket.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed. No, I wasn't allowed to be under 195, though. Okay, well, so, okay, 195. Yeah,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed. I would have got fined if I
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: was on the 195.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie, though, but the crazy thing,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: he looked out for me.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: The crazy thing, my... Yeah, I.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Heard some crazy stuff about Fisher. Kenny Britt would go
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: into Fisher's office and.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Be like, I'm not working out today. He'd be like,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Really? People weren't just thugging out like that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: But, I mean, if he had a relationship with it
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: like that, I'm sure he would probably be.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Like, man, chill out today. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Fish was like that.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: And you didn't have to do that to Fish because
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: he understood the vibe of the team.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man, that's got to be.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: That's a tough situation.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: He had to witness greatness, though.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Witness and i got to see like i've seen 2
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: 000 yards like you know that's like crazy i've seen
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: it right that's what i'm saying yeah it's only happened
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: eight times.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: And already incredible and i was one of the titans
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: too hear me that's wild.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: That's incredible yeah and i've seen it i watched it
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: all most all purpose shards in the history of the
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: game you.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Know what i mean that's crazy going going to that
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: 2 000 yard thing when you were a couple years
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: ago when Derrick was running and he was going on
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: the mission for 2000. What was your, like, how did
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: you feel about it? Were you just like, all right,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: get 2000, but don't break my 2000?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Nah, I wanted to, yeah, like, man. You wanted him
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: to get the record record.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, man, I used to talk, like, not used to,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I still talk to him all the time, but, like,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: especially that year when he was going, I used to
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: talk to him for every game. Really?
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Every game.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And it was crazy because not last year, I think
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: it was two years before, like, before they was feeding
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: him like that, I came here to Alumni Weekend. We
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: was here, and I forgot who I was talking to.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I think I was talking to Art at the time.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: One of the coaches, I'm like, man, y'all have to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: feed Derrick. Because at this time, they was, you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: five carries.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: DeMarco Murray. DeMarco Murray. He went 1,600.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he went 1,600. And, like, they was ready to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: give up on Derrick. They was ready to give up
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: on Derrick. I'm like, man, trust me.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: I know they were when Deion Lewis was here.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because Derrick got, I don't know if the bench
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: is the right word, but he was.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, sort of. Remember, we'd be in the locker room. Yeah,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Derrick was starting. Yeah, Derrick was mad as hell. He
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: was mad, man.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, man, he's the type of bat. I'm like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: we're different.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: We're not the same size, but I'm like, he's kind
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: of like me because we're the type of bats. You
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: can't give us five carries here, five carry there. Like, man,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you got to feed him. You know what I'm saying?
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Give him 20, 25 touches, 30 touches.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like....
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Once y'all do that, y'all going to see what type
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: of player he is.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And then that next year, that's when they started giving
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: him carries.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 2019, 2020, he went off.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: He went crazy.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: And it's just wild because they was ready to give
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: up on him.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: They was ready to give up on Derrick.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: But the world kind of like, everybody was kind of like,
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: where's Derrick?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Where's Derrick? Heisman Trophy winner. And that's what they were
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: saying at the time.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: They were like, all the Bama backs, like, yeah, they'll
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: do good and get the awards, but then they get
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: in the league, somehow, someway, they fall off.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden... Because Trent Richardson was
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: right before him.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Trent was, yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Trent was a huge.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: That was tough.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was tough.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: You kind of just accumulate the baggage that a player
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: has before you.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Alabama's got the most busts in the league.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: But I also want to know, like, how.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: Because I have so many more draft picks than everybody else.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: But still, you know, probably more percentage, though, right?
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, so he hits the 2,000 yards,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: which brings us to the topic of who's the best
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: back in Tennessee history.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: The best back?
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Best back. The best running back, yeah. Who is the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: best running back in Tennessee history? There's really three to
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: go off of, right? Tennessee Titans history. Tennessee Titans history.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Or Oilers Titans. Yeah, Oilers Titans. You gotta put Earl C.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Earl is Earl.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I know, but I mean... Because you tweeted yesterday.
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: You said, Derek is already the GOAT, but today he
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: cements his GOAT-ness.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't get those two touchdowns I needed him
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: to get.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Killed my fantasy.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: He killed you.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: He only got 16 points. I mean, it's solid still, but.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: This man be on there, too. You don't watch the
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: game for nothing other than, man, did he score?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: You're my man. I know. I had Travis Kelsey. He
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: scored a touchdown.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: They called it back for holding.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I saw that touchdown. Damn. But all right, let's just go...
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: You want to say? My order?
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your order?
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm just going to go Titans because I don't
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: know enough about Oilers and stuff like that. I would
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: go Derek one. I would go you two and Eddie
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: George three. And that, not only when I said that.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I said that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I had to look in your eyes when I said
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: that because it hurt me to say it to you
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: when we just met.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: But that was.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes it is, though. Why is Derrick your one?
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang on.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Before we get into that, what's your order? One through three.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: One through three? Yeah. I would go me, Derrick, then Eddie.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Me.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I'm saying you, Eddie, then Derrick. Oh.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: So that Eddie didn't miss for like the first eight years,
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: he didn't miss games.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Me neither. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Hold on.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: If we're talking, even you, so you know your history,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: let's do this.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: Because he's probably one of, I don't know, five or
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: six players that start off his first six, seven seasons
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: with over 1,000 yards.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: How many yards do you rush for overall?
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Overall?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: No, just with the Titans. Right under 10,000.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Just with the Titans?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I think with the Titans, like 7,000.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: 7,000.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: With the Titans.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: And Derrick's at 7,000 now. How many years has he
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: been with the Titans? This is his seventh year. Okay.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And he missed.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: Eddie George, seven out of the eight years with Tennessee,
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: over 1,000.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Eddie was a different animal. I mean, basically, his whole
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: career besides.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: And this is no disrespect to Eddie. I hope he's not.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Seeing this thinking.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: That's my guy.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: But you play with Derrick. I play with Derrick, yeah.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I play with Derrick.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's my question. Why Derrick first?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why Derrick number one?
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: The reason why I think Derrick is one of the
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: most dominant running backs of all time. I think his
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: 2,000 yards... I know you got the 2,000 yards, but
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: If you play 30 games, you have 3,400 yards and
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: 30 touchdowns. In his last 30 games, he's done that.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: And he's done that consistently. I know his first two years, obviously,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: weren't what you want him to be because he had
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: guys in front of him and the whole Deion Lewis thing.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I just think it's probably got to be some recency bias, too.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've played with him. I helped him get
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: those yards.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. Yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: So, I think from a running back, handing the ball off,
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: here's the ball, go run. He's probably... top five back ever.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: But then I think the threat you had of catching
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: the ball, Eddie had to catching the ball. And that
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: way I can see what, where the edge comes there.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I can see, I can see the edge, but I
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: still got to go Derek.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: That's my boy. That's my guy.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Not a whole lot of information.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I gave up there. Not a whole lot of information.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I just gave up. Derek.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: That's my guy, man. That's my guy. He's a man.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: He's a beast.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: He's a star. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: And if you look at him right now, he's like,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: he's only like, Ben Jones is in year 11, the center.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody else is under year four. Like he's playing with
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: dudes that don't have a lot of experience. And the
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: last four games or three games, he's still ripping off
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: over a hundred yards.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: And he hasn't even catch a strike yet.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: He's the only dude I've ever seen that the more
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: you give him the ball later in the season, the
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: stronger and more dominant he gets.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: He gets stronger and stronger.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: And look at him in the playoffs, too. 2019, Patriots
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: went crazy. Baltimore went crazy.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: It was insane. It was insane to see.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: So it's hard for me to sit here being a
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: part of all that, watching all that, and then having
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: to say, all right, this person's got the edge.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because get wet. Because get wet. You ain't play
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: with me, though.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: But hang on.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I bet if.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Michael Ruse was in this room right now, he'd say you.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would definitely say. I know Mike would say that.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: You think so? Just with Mike.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Was he there yesterday?
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was there.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the reason why I would say me, number one,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I had 2,500 yards.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Nobody ever done that.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: That's catching and running, right?
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's impressive.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? 2,500 yards.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is fucking crazy.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The year I went for 2,000 yards, I had
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: 500 receiving yards.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. Hey, Will, back me up.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: 2,000 yards and 500 receiving.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: 500 receiving.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like I— What's your order? I respectfully disagree with it, Derek.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: I think Derek is three on the list when you
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: talk history of the Titans. I think if there's one year,
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: if you're going to have one year with one running back,
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like Tom Brady-Payton Manning argument. I'd take
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: Manning and one year over Tom Brady, but collectively in
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: a career, you're not going to argue Tom Brady.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: You just made this man so happy with that damn comment.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Did you say Payton over Tom? Hang on, hang on.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Let me finish, though. I think the same thing with Derek.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, that $ 2, 500 all-purpose, now that I'm thinking about that,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that's kind of tough. Because he happens.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: To be a receiving threat, too.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Derek's one year of going over $ 2, 000. It's like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: who was stopping that man at all?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: No one.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: But in the history of being a Titan, he only
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: has right at the moment three years of over a
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: thousand yards you're talking to like he's had his first
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: six like derrick it took three years to get to
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: a thousand he did it his rookie year eddie george
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: eight out of his nine years or seven out of
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: his eight years was a thousand yard runner like every
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: year three i would say derrick's three in the history
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: of tennessee tights there's my boy like again this is
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: hard to say i know he's a tier one he
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: watches this podcast i would take derrick in one year
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: of the three running backs like hey if we're gonna
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: hand the ball off we're gonna build it around the
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: run game I disrespect you because you are a fucking
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: king in your own right. I would take Derek. But
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: in history, I think Derek is three. I would probably go...
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: The 2,500 kind of makes it confusing because outside of that,
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: running the ball, I would say it goes Eddie, you, Derek.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: But with the receiving, it's like, you know, take your pick.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: They're all great. But that's my.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: I think it's hard to say Derek's the top five
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: most dominant running back ever because, again, he's got a
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: career to put together more.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: He's got to continue.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: As far as dominance, like, yeah, he's a fucking... You're.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Running into the Aaron Donald argument.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: People say Aaron Donald's the most dominant dude of all time.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I say, well, he needs more years to prove that.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: Especially when you're stacking them up against Reggie White and
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: those guys who have just a resume year after year.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: I hear that.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but when I come by it, my thing is
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder what it was. Why they didn't give Derrick
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the keys to the car. You know what I'm saying?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: As far as paying him?
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: No, no. Why wasn't he starting? Like, clearly, we know
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Derrick was the guy.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Why wasn't he getting the opportunity?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first three years, yeah.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: I think when Derrick first came in, DeMarco Murray, we
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: traded for a fourth-round pick from the Eagles.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: DeMarco comes in he.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: Was coming off the Cowboys year too he was coming
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: off the Cowboys and went to the Eagles had a
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: tough year at the Eagles not as good of a
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: year and that's why we got him for a fourth
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: round pick he comes in now you have a back
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: who knows all the systems like just knows ball better
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: probably at that point and I think like there's things
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: that you have that are undeniable your quickness and speed
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: were undeniable you could put you on the field and
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: be like alright this guy's gonna figure it out he's
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: gonna find the hole somewhere Derek is a guy that
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: If you get him into his fourth or fifth step
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: and keep that line of scrimmage clean, that's when he
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: gets the yards.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: That's when he's going to make those dominant runs. So
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: I think with DeMarco, it's easier to plug and play
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: him in the beginning. Now, I'm talking out of my
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: ass right now.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I really don't know. This is my assumption. This was
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the year before you got there?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: No, I've been here for nine.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: Right, but I'm saying when you say you're talking out
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: of your ass, are you talking about a year right
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: before you got there?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about like when you were here? No,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: when I was here. Derek got drafted in 16. I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: got drafted in 14. Oh, yeah, yeah. What am I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. That's kind of crazy.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: That's kind of disrespectful.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying you're not really talking out of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: your ass as much then.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Well, the only reason why I'm saying I'm talking about it,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I might be talking out of my ass. The only
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: reason why I'm saying that is because I wasn't in
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Derek's head. I don't know what he was picking up
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: and not picking up. I was in that running back's room.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: So now I'm making a bunch of assumptions saying, hey, well,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: how is this really working? Then the next year, I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: don't know. I think it kind of goes to what
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: you were saying before. Like, you guys aren't the kind
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: of backs you give five touches to. And we were
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: still kind of transitioning from, like, we were running the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: ball a lot, but we were running a lot more duo,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: a lot more gap scheme, a lot more stuff that,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: you know, for whatever reason, Deion was doing a better
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: job of in the beginning. But I'm not judging Derek on, like,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: his slower start. I'm saying this dominant player just continuously, like,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: take 25, not slowing down at all, and just continually being, like,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: that dude over and over again.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Deion was a beast, too, coming out of New England. Yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: he was. And he was strapping. His feet were this big,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: but he was strapping, bro.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: And they were throwing the ball, and at times you
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: feel like Derek was trying to do, like, do I
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: need to be more of a guy like.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: That instead of being like, hey, this is who I'm
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: going to be. I'm going to run it.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: And I ask.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: That because I know, like, A lot of it was
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: just opportunity. He wasn't given the opportunity. So I'm not
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: saying he wasn't good in the first years, but I'm
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: just saying I wonder why they waited so long to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: give him the opportunity. It makes sense with the DeMarco Murray.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Thing.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: So he has his rookie year the way he has
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: his rookie year with DeMarco. When you're in practice, even
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: when you're in practice, Derek's going to take some time
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: to get going in practice a little bit. So if
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: you're going through camp, And they're splitting reps.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: What are they getting?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: 10 reps each at practice? You're not going to be
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: able to see, oh shit, we can give this guy
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: the ball over and over and over again. So now
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: you're going through the season, making these guys switch off
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Derrick, he comes in, starts to warm up,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: gets back out. Then he has to go big and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: re-warm up and stuff like that. And I don't know
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: what your back situation was like. Obviously, I mean, you
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: were there, but like when you got the ball and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: you hit that 69 yard run in a preseason game,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: people are probably saying, okay, we're cooking with something here.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: There was never that.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Big flash of something with Derek in the beginning of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: those two years for the coaches to look and say, oh,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: we can give you this ball.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: 25 times a game.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: So maybe that plays a little more into it. And
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: as a coach, you can't be like, damn, I can't
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: believe you guys didn't see it. It's like, how are
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: you going to see that? Like, you have no idea.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: You're just kind of hoping.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: And when Derek first got to the league, they show
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: clips of him at practice tripping over bags and shit.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: This dude looks like a baby deer for a second.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? He was just so big.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, this dude's a D-end. He's coming
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: to his own. It's crazy to say about a Heisman
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Trophy winner, but he comes in the first two years
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: and it's good for him that those first two years
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: went like that because then he still balls out those
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: next two years, gets paid, and he's got more tread
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: on the tires for the long run. And it's like,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Derek's one of those dudes where He's like a, like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: you know, Bax, you all know, like there's only so
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: many hits you guys got. And with him, it's like,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: where's the slowdown? Like, where do you see him slowing
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: down at all? Like, there's nothing, even with this foot stuff.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Will calls, Will's like, is this like the end of Derek? Like,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: is this the last we're seeing of this man? And
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: it's like, shows up and look at him again.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: He's doing it again.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: And the numbers aren't crazy right now. They never are
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: in September, middle of October.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: They're never that way.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: He's sitting at what right now? Like 500? Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I don't even think he's top five in rushing right now.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: What sucks is the fact that, like, yeah, he's had,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: how many, what, 1,000-yard seasons?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Three? But last year, like, last year didn't count because
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: he got stopped at 950.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: I know, and that's 1,000-yard season right there. That's 1,000-yard.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: He would have probably had the record rushing all time.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Bro, all time, no question. He was at 954 after
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: seven games.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the craziest thing about it, man. We
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: talk about this all the time, right?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: He doesn't get hurt.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think this argument's not as big as what
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? But then you play ifs
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: all the time, buddy.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but he would be at four years in a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: row of over 1,000 yards.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: And not only that, but he did two years in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: a row of 2K. He's getting touchdowns.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: He did two years at 2K.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the number one in history. I'm glad that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: you said that because we talk about that all the time.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Once we go for 2,000 yards.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: And you come back and go for, if you want
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: to go for 2,000 yards again, and you go for 1,300,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: they're like, damn, he's playing off. I ran for 1,300 yards.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: 1,300 is a great time.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: How did you find out?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: It's awesome. That's why when you talk about now, they're like, oh,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: he has a slow start, this and that.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: But look at this.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: They're so easy to forget in the league. They're so
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: easy to forget what happened.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: They forget that quick.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Go back to the 2000 yard season.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: The numbers were similar.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: At this time. Four years in a row with double
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: digit touchdowns too.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Right. They make it seem like he carries that motherfucker.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: 200 resting yards right now.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Violent, bro. And Derek's not like, as big as he is,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: he's not like a bulldoze you over type of dude
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: he does a great job of just having arm tackles
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: left and right moving them hips just a little bit
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying not a big jump cut
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: guy but he can get down but he's been running
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: a little more mean got the new hairstyle yeah bro
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: I've never seen emotion like that from Derek yeah never
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: seen emotion like that and yeah he's just he's just
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: about his business yeah I think he doesn't get hurt
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: next year like we're not having this conversation one thing
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: you had Eddie at two right.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Nah, I was here when Chris Brown.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying when you ranked him.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: You had Eddie at two, and you had Eddie at two.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, it's all about longevity, like continuing the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: second year. It's like, again, you have one year with
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: one of those guys, I'm choosing Derek.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: No, I think part of the Eddie George being three
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: to you and me, I don't know if this is
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: for you, but maybe it's like, so much time has
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: gone by, you don't appreciate it as much.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: Right, right. That could be it.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: That could be it a little bit. Because Eddie was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: a stud, bro.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, he was, but how can I.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: He was a fucking stud. Only my thing is, I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: can't put Eddie over somebody that went for 2,000 yards.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: As a running back, I'm with him. If you go 2K,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: you automatically get the edge. You can't go Eddie at 3, then.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I probably.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: You had Eddie at two at first, right? I might
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: have to come back at three thinking about the 2K.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: It's different.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: We all, as a running back, you grow up your
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: whole life. I'm like, I'm going to do 2,000 yards.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm doing. So when you do 2K and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: you call, but, man, this dude's been running for 4,000
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: yards his whole life.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: So Derrick Henry, man, he's been doing his thing.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Bro, he went 2K in high school, 2K in college,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: 2K in NFL. Only person in the world to ever
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I went 3K in college.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: And $ 2, 500 in a league.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: The 2K argument's valid.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's valid.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I might have to switch mine.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: I might have to go Eddie 3, not Derek 2.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Eddie never had a $ 2, 000.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: But to give Eddie his flowers, the dude was fucking
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: dominant for so long.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: He was lovely. Eddie was lovely, man.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: He had to make a transition, like, how hard it
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: would be to be playing somewhere and having to move.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: But not only having to move, like the Rams went
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: from St.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Louis to L.A.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: You got to move and then go play in Memphis
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: and drive two hours, go to Memphis.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Come back to practice at Vanderbilt. You're doing meetings in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: a room like this. He worked through that adversity and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: still was so dominant.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Man, Eddie was great, man. Eddie was great. And he
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: ran so hard. Man, I still remember... He was on
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the Madden cover. Did y'all have a Dreamcast?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: No, I had a Dreamcast for a minute, but I
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: was never on it like that.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: No, but Dreamcast, that year when Eddie.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: No, but I'm saying.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I know the Dreamcast.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Man, you're right.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: I was all about this before.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: That year when Dream, like, it went around long, but
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Eddie was the best running back on the.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: Game that year.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: When Dreamcast, yeah, it was Eddie and Marshall Falk.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Marshall was a monster. Marshall.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: He could go off one game, one Dreamcast game. When
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: I played NCAA back in the day. I was the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: best running back in the league. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: You couldn't touch me.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: You couldn't touch me back then.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Eddie was great, though, man.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: That's my boy. But yeah, that's why I got to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: go with Derek, too, because he had the 2,000 yards.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: So I respect that. So if Derek goes a couple
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: more years over 1,000, would you tip the cap to him?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Would you bend the knee?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: As far as what? Him what? I can't do that.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: If he break my record, yeah.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, you say if he breaks your record? Yeah. You're
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: lucky he got hurt then last year. What do you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: mean record?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: 2,500?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: Oh, 2,500.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if he would have got 2,500. Yeah,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: because the man doesn't really catch like that.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: A lot of rushing yards. No, no, no.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: That's all purpose.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: All purpose.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: That's all purpose. Okay, so he beeps you on the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: rushing yards, though.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, now.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like 20 more yards.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: See what I'm saying?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Yo, man. Okay, man.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you see this?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: You see? Yeah. That's a whole nother.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: That's a whole nother hundred yards.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, guess what? And guess what?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: Guess what? Guess what?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: In the last game, I had a 70-yard touchdown callback.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: So you're the broke dog.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't even holding.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: I feel like everybody's got there if he didn't play in.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: The second half.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: No, but, bro, it wasn't a holding call.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: It ought to be Aaron Dickerson record.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Hold on. What happened?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: What was the call?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: It was on our fullback. So we was running the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: inside zone. So in this game, we threw it in
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: where we do the toss.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: You toss it.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: And Amal Hall come up, him and the linebacker, meet
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: head up.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Boom.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: You block him. And they call holding on him.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Probably just failed.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Can we pull that film up?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Is there a way to pull that up right now?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: They call holding on him. It wasn't up. This is
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the crazy thing about it.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: Guess what?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: The next year, you know how they come and talk
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: to us. The goddamn ref come to us at the thing.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: The next year.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Bro, how hot? How mad were you, bro?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I was so mad because, listen, going into that game,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: everybody knew I wanted to get 2,000 yards.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: How far away were you going into the game? Huh?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: How far away?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: I needed 130 yards.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: But we all said, man, forget that.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: We going for the overall record. Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: We going for the overall record. So in the second quarter,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I broke for 70. Called it back.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: This was your 2K year?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: That would have gave him the rush.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: He got a last game.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: He would have broke Eric Dickerson. Derrick got 2K. He
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: got the... Bro, he got his 2K. He needed like 230.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: He got it the last game of the year.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: He needed 230.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I watched that game.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he needed 230. Yeah, I needed one.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about it, I didn't even know
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: that I broke the 2,500. I didn't even know that
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I had a Marshall Farr record until the next day. Oh, really? Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: I only care about the 2,000 yards. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Then the next day, I'm getting an interview. Yeah, they
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: interviewing me, and they asked me about it. I'm like, what?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know what my total yards was.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, you brought it.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I think Marshall had like 24, 23, and I finished
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: with 25.09.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: So you didn't even.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Cemented yourself as number one until you learned that stat
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: about yourself?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: No, I still would have.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: You say you didn't even know.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: No, but I still would have just off my 2,000-yard year. Like,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I'm the only guy, hey, listen, I'm the only guy
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: in history with, like, eight 80-yard runs.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: I think, like, Derrick gets another double-digit touchdown year.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Derrick's one of, like, five people to have a 99-yard run.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: He had a 98 and a 98.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: I think Derrick's like, if he gets double digits this year,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: which he will, he gets like, if you get at
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: least 1,500, which I think he will, I think there's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: a strong argument.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: He goes down. He now becomes. Because, again, he's stacking.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: That's five years in a row.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Say last year.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: Last year was 950. But everyone knows if he doesn't
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: get hurt, he's killing it.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: But that's the if, like you said. But that would
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: mean five years in a row.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: But listen. Hey, but check this out.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: If you don't call my touchdown back, I probably have 2,600. Yeah.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: And if he don't get hurt in Arizona, ain't no
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: telling how many overall yards you have for your career,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: and that would be another 1,000-yard season.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Would you have overall your career 11,000?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: No, I had like 9,700 rushing, and then I got
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: like 12,000 all-purpose rushing.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your total?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: I remember practicing in Nebraska, and we'd always talk about, like,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: dances and celebrations, and everyone's doing your fucking.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: God, bro. Yeah, yeah, sorry.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: What? Massive, massive Titans fans. Me and Pac-Man used to
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: do that dance.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: Dad, that's what we're talking about in the back of
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: the backfield.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Listen, ain't that preseason right there?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: Nah, that's jazz.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Bro, it was my rookie year.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: Washington came to Tennessee for first game of the preseason.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: You ended, like, basically, and he hit you too, though,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: but you fucking hurt his ass. Phillip Thomas, he was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: a rookie of safety from Washington. You guys met in
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: the hole, and fucking he tore his shoulder.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear that, my man? Yeah, pressure.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to go tell this man, because his kids,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: they be Sometimes they want to drop that shoulder, but
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: I be telling them, you can hurt somebody.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: Doing that, man.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: It'll hurt them way more than it hurts you when
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: you running that full speed.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: How high? That's high.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: How do you, okay, look, watching this video, watching the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: old uniforms, how do you feel about the new Titan uniforms?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Man, they lovely, man.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Compared to the old one.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: They lovely.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: I like them.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: You like the new ones?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the new ones. And the good thing
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: about it, see, back then, Like, they let them, you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: can wear whatever type of shoes you want. We was
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: always trying to wear the red. We were trying to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: get the red in there, but they wouldn't let us
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: back then. So that's why I had it on the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: bottom of my shoe or whatever. But yeah, man, I
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: love the new uniforms.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are nice.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: They got the socks.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: You only had total, I think you already said it.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: You already said your all-purpose yards, yeah?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: 9,700. 9,700. How many receiving? No, those are all-purpose. Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: All Purpose, $ 12, 000. All Purpose, $ 12, 000? Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: The Russian was $ 97, 000.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was actually $ 11, 396. I looked it up earlier.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Derek's on his way.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: What Derek got?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: A little over $ 7, 000 right now. Eddie's at $ 10, 000. You're
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: at $ 9, 000 rushing.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: But yeah, All Purpose, $ 12, 000.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, man.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: For me to do that, he got to break my record.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Which record? The 2,500?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: You think he's got to break that record to beat you?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: He got 17 games. I did it in 16.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: Ooh.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is I don't think he's going
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: to touch 2,500.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: You said you rushed for 3,000 in college? You had all-purpose?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: All-purpose, 3,000.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: It says here it was 2,960.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: 20 yards off. I'm 40 yards off.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you see that, though.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's solid.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I don't see that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: First numbers, too. Hey, all I'm saying is, like, he
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: might not touch the 2,500. No. Why not?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: He got 17 games. Yeah, but my man.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Doesn't catch like that, though. Yeah, you know he doesn't
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: catch like that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: Huh?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: If I'm you, that's the.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Exact argument I'm going with. Okay, so, but what I'm
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: just saying, if we're talking about, y'all keep saying, y'all
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: keep saying, okay, we're going to take out the catching aspect.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: We're talking, okay, so tell me, hold on, wait.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 7: Tell me this.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: And I don't, like, I know he watched the show,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: and that's my boy. But what I'm saying is, right here, look,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: go back.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: That was the fourth one?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Right here.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: That's not a holding at all. That would have been
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: the record record.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's crazy.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: But listen.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: He was coming out the sideline. He was so tired.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: I hadn't played for weeks at this point. He talking
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: about it. I'm like, you better.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Get your ass. Oh, that's a bad call.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's dog shit.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Go back.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: Go back.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Let's see if we can find anything petty. If I'm
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: a backer, I'm like. I just want.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: To.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: I like Lou, man. This guy is crazy. Go to
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: the other angle. I want to see it from the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: back end.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: I want to see the end zone view.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to see his right hand.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: He was already buying.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. Watch his right arm. Look at that.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: But they called that on you?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's bullshit. I think it's bullshit and petty.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: But I guess that's what they had to call. Look
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: at that mustache on Fish, dude.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Fish was notorious. I think that's the right call. I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah. Heimerdinger's one of those guys. There's your
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: boy right there. Big Mikey. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Y'all keep saying that y'all want to pull out the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: catching aspect, but a lot of times when I look
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: at a game on third down, we got to bring
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Derrick out of the game.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: So he ain't even playing all the downs.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm telling you. If we're going to
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: talk about the top backs, if you start in your organization, right,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: And you want to build your offense around the back.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: You're going to want to build your offense around the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: back that you can have on the field three downs.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: You don't want to have to put them off every
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: third down.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: But as history has showed, they were– They were a
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: game away from the Super Bowl.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: No, but I'm just saying. In 2008, they went 13-3.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: And they were the number, what, you guys had a
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: first-round buy.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, first-round buy.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he tore his, I mean, he sprained his ankle. Yeah.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, but can you answer that question, though?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Do you want to build your offense around a guy
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: that you can play three downs or two downs?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Well, the obvious answer to that is two downs, but
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: you got to look at the body of work that
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Derek's putting out.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: So you'll be.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: You want a guy on three downs and two downs.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: So you're saying two downs.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I meant three.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Three downs, right?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Three downs.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, why are they laughing?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: What's your answer?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I got a question. I mean, yeah, you want an
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: every down back.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Period. I mean, period. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, I think what's fucking crazy.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to need that space, Well, sorry, my name hurts.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Man, look at me. Bro, you ain't got ACL.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so three downs, right?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: So. That's a good argument, but like.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: Like what?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Bro, five years in a row.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: Of what?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Over a thousand and double digit touchdowns. Yeah, I did six.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think you had double digits, though.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: You didn't have double digit touchdowns.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Nah, I didn't, because they took me out when we
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: got around by the goal line sometimes.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Because you got to put in Lindell.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Exactly, but that's just how we rocking. That's the.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: You got to put in that smash. I was, yeah,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: I was benefiting. I ain't mad.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: And I want to preface this with, listen, we're all
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: going to be friends at the end of this.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: So just make sure it's all good.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: But you had... Thanks, we're not going to be friends anymore.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: You only had two of those seasons, only two of
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: them you had double digit touchdowns.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to think, the type of I'm 195. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: It hurts, Derrick.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: On third down, it hurts.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: You on the goal line.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: No, not really.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Not really because I can do it, but you know
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: when you get with the coaches, they want to put
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a bigger guy in the game.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: They know that. Do you fault them for that? That's
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: what you kind of.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: I can do it. I can do it.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Short yardage, were you in third and one?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: It depends.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Sometimes. Heimerdinger, yes.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, well, Heimerdinger.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: But then you got to think, after Dinger left, I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: had a different offensive coordinator every year, a different quarterback
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: every year.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Right. We didn't have.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Derrick had A.J. Derrick had A.J. Brown.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: For two, like three years.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: He's a stud.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: I can't even... See what I'm saying?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: You're crushing it for my fantasy team.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: I want us to be boys. No, I'm just saying.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: All right, all right.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Here's a question.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: You're saying because you rushed for 2,000 yards.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: So the sole fact that you rushed for 2,000 yards,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: you got to get put over Eddie George, right?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, they're saying the criteria is if you're in 2,000,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: you automatically get put over.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: All right, so you rushed for 2,000 yards your second
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: year in the league.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: Let's say the next year you get hurt, you never
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: play football again. You play two years in the league.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Are you still over Eddie George? No, no, I can't
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: say that. That's two years.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: I can't say that, though.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: No, but I can't say.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: That because I only played two years.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to say I'm better than Eddie George.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: That's what we're saying right now. Here's what I'm saying anyway.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: You're one and Derrick's two, but Derrick's on his way
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: to becoming number one. But you're just saying unless he
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: gets 2,500.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: He's saying no. He's saying no unless he beats 2,500. Yeah,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: he got to beat 2,500.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: And then on top of that, where was it?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Derrick's first 1,000-yard season was year three or four. Year three.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: But, again, when we were talking about it, that's why
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: he was affected in my ranking.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's in year seven.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: If he goes three more years over 1,000, then he's
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: got seven over 1,000.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: We're still talking ifs.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: We're still talking ifs. Yeah, we're still talking ifs. You're right.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Here's what I wanted to say earlier.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: How many you got? He got two.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: We did do a little if for you, too, with
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: the 70-yard touchdown. Who's that, Derrick? That's not what I'm saying.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: You see a big.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: That 937 sucks because he was about to have 2,000 yards.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: In a row. But that's an if. That's an if.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: That's an if.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: You're talking right here, right? Yeah. 2,015 yards. Yeah, 1,015. 497.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, but.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: The 937, that's an eight-game split.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Eight-game split.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: On a broken foot. He only has 64 yards. He
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: had a broken foot. He still ran the whole game.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: No, we're just talking stats here, though. It's not 1,000 yards.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: We did it for you with the 70-yard run.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: No, we didn't.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: We did it for you with the whole thing. We
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: pulled up the video, and we were like, yeah, you're right.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't break the record, though.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't break the record.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: That goes into it because it's unfortunate he got hurt.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: I didn't get it, though.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: But my first six years, I went for 1,000.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Not thousands. It was, you know, 12, 13. That's what
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that you're here to back him
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: up because I feel like if he was by himself
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: right now, it'd be a tough battle.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's why I'm stoked.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Look at that.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: First out to get it.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: That is incredible.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: You did that in 2013. I just said that.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, look. Hey, and you want to talk about. My phone,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: my phone.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Hey, then you want to talk about, bro.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: 811. Hey, look.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: 811.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: That last year. That last year. I played on the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: torn meniscus since week two.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: With the last year with 177?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: Torn meniscus that whole year.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: That three-year stand is nuts coming out of your first year. Filthy, bro.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: You probably couldn't even walk around Nashville.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: No. Yes. Crazy, man. Dash.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: But then what I give you, I give you nine, 14, 11, 14.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I got receiving touchdowns too, though, so you say I
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: ain't double-digit, but I got receiving touchdowns in there.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: Too.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: It's a fair. He's on the wheel. He had double-digit.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Look over here on this 15, 25, 16, 14, 14, 14.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Those are totally ours. That's, that's, that's yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: And you basically had double digit your first year. Cause
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: you had a receiving touchdown.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: 10, 16, 12.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Or.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: That one.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: And then he had another, another double digit in 13.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: On a torn meniscus.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Listen, Chris, I said my rankings. You're number one, big dog.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, no, no. You're number one. You're number one.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Give Eddie some flowers real quick. I know we did
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: kind of throw Eddie a three there.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: We did.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: He's got some crazy shit too, but.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Y'all forgetting the Earl, man.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did specifically keep it in tights.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: We can throw them in.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: 13, 13, 12, 13, 15, 9, 11, 11. See, now
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. We got to get good.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: It's at 225. Only one double-digit, though.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, two.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: You got it one time? At 225. Y'all got to leave, huh?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: Did you drive here or did you get an Uber?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I got to get an Uber.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: 12, 13, 15.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead and do that.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: 11.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: I think you're straight, though. I mean, you're still an
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: hour 20 out. Yeah, you're good. I would actually leave.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: How far is the error for you?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: He went crazy, too.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: He did go crazy.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: But look at the touchdowns. 8, 6, 5, 9, 14, 5, 12, 5, 4. Yeah,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: y'all talking about me.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Y'all saying.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Eddie's are three.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: No, but he was saying something about the touchdown.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Eddie is a big guy, and he only.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Got two Ws. Right.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Chris, he fell to number three on my list.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: He fell to number three. I had double digits as
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: a backup. You're still number one. You're number one.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I had double digits as a backup. There you go.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: Lindell White is into the conversation. Yeah, I did have
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: double digits as a backup. Hey, what I wanted to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: say the whole time.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I broke Eddie's touchdown record for the year.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: One of them years. I have more touchdowns. Chris, are
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: you four? I'm just being real. I'm fucking with you.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? We got fucking problems now.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Eddie's at 15.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Eddie's at 3'6.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: With a limit.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: But his double digit, if we're talking about receiving, too,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: he had a double digit with receiving.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I want to see where Derrick's is.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: It's interesting to see where Derrick's is.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Look up there.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I want to see where Derrick's is.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: See, he's at 4'8.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: That's a great average, yeah. That's ridiculous. What was Eddie's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: and what was yours?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Eddie's was 3'6.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Five yards of carry. Yeah, he's crazy. That's crazy. Eddie's
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: last year kind of kills him a little bit.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: I truly want to, I got to get this off
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: my chest. I've been wanting to say it.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: What's up? It is nuts. We started a podcast and.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: And one day we would have Lindell White and Chris
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: Johnson on, and we're arguing about them, Eddie George, Derrick Henry,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: like who's the best. Yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like, this is nuts, bro. This
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: is hard. Wild. Wild. Give him some stats, boy.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: What about playoffs?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: Hey.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, ass white.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I want my own ass. I like this dude.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, this man, hey, we would have got along so good. Yeah,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: we would have. We would have. He said, what about playoffs?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you. Who's this right here, Chris? I mean,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: look at career playoffs, six and a half. We can't
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: even get you a picture. What's that about?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, they got me at three probably. Six and
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: a half yards per carry in the playoffs.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: One game played, though. One playoff game. I mean, hey.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to play our game in Arizona.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: We'll play with Terry Collins. Who's faster out of you
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: and Tyreek Hill? Or in your guys' prime?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Me.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: I can't believe y'all asked. Like, he had the fastest time.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: And, like, y'all got to say, like, maybe Rocket Ross,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: John Ross, because he broke his 40 times.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, John Ross.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: If John Ross looked at something the wrong way, he'd
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: get injured.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me, of course.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: That's tough. Who's faster than you?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: Who's faster?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: We're talking about you and your prime.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: Nobody.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: On the football field.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: Nobody. Nobody.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: You saying Cheetah's not as fast as you?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: Nobody. Not in my prime, no.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: You're kind of pissing me off that you're not in
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: your prime anymore because I'm trying to run it.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're trying to see that, right? I at least
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: want to see it going by me. No question. How
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: long am I keeping up? Mount wide open.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in prime, yeah, nobody in my prime. What do
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: you think you can run right now? Right now, I
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: probably can run a 4.3.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: You think you can run a 4.3 right now? Come on, Chris,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: don't do that. What did you run in the column,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: a 4.28?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: 4.24. 4.24. See what I'm saying?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't do that.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't fucking do that. That's why I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: like him.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: Don't do that. Yeah, man.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: You think he's running a 4-3 right now? DJ could
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: probably run a 4-3. How many pro goals you make?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: He runs three. Same. He knows how to get down
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: and do it. Right now still? Training, workout?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: If that's what he needed to do, I'm sure.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: He could probably.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Who said right now?
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: 4-4 is still fast. We had 40 yards out there.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: We went out right now. You did a little dynamic warm-up.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to run a 4-3. It's only 40 yards.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: Buddy, I feel like I've already dug a little hole
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: for myself.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be a 4-3. I
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: would say he could probably run a mid-4-5. He could
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: be a 4-3-9, but he's still a 4-3. I'm saying
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: me and him might be close right now.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: Listen, okay.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Hey, Will, relax.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Will.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Out of the three.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: Buddy, I'm literally three weeks out of surgery, and we're
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: close right now.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: No. Relax.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Hey, I guarantee you. Did you not check the tape
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: on the kid? What'd you run?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: A 4.5.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: I had a pro day, bro.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: 4.5 in your prime.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: You probably didn't run it.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't run it. 4.5 in your prime? At 310 pounds. Hey, listen.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, out of the three backs, the rankings, I guarantee
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: I run the fastest 40 out of the three backs
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: You think you're beating Derek?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It takes a second.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: Derek was a 4'5 guy and he's gotten faster, bro.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: So you think Derek can beat me right now?
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: You think Derek can beat me right now?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's why. Listen, I swear to God.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Derek is in football shape.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: He's been running. He's been training. He's 27 or 28.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: Derek is 28?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: 27, 28. Yeah, 28. Damn.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: 28.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Silly-ass class.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's another thing which I was saying. Y'all
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: keep saying in the next couple of years, you know
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: when you get 28 at running back.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: Like this way.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Y'all know that.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: You know when you get 28 at running back.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: But they said you can't play into your 40s, Tom Brady.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: No, but we're talking about running backs here.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: I know. So do y'all think Derrick got four or
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: five more years? I don't know.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: I think with Derrick... You getting the ball 30 times
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: a game, I don't know.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: You would think so.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: Because we got to think.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: You would think statistically and everything? No, there's no chance.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: But he hasn't slowed down at all.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: I'm riding with my boy until he.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: No, I'm riding with Derrick too, but what I'm saying is.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: I've been rocking Derrick's skin flute all episode.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: There's no question.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking....
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: But my thing is, okay, so it's kind of going
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: to go back to how it started with Derrick at
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: the beginning.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: You're saying it's going to hurt him a little bit
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: towards the end?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Towards the end, we know for Derrick to be Derrick,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: he got to get 25, 30 carries.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: He's got to get at least 20.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: He's averaging 4.8 right now.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, can he sustain that the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: next two, three, four years?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: I think for sure two, three years.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: Being Derrick, being Derrick.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: My man takes care of his body like crazy, bro.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: No, everybody takes care of their body, but I'm just saying, bro.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: They'll have to kind of keep an identity kind of
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: like that with Tennessee, and they'll have to obviously extend it.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Right, because listen, but no, but the thing about it
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: is it's about winning. So if we're not winning like that,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: how long is we just going to keep getting there
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: at the ball like that if we're not winning like that?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: One point in a row.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. They haven't played out of that.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: No, but we're talking about winning Super Bowls.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: If that formula is not working.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Derrick can't do it, but I'm
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: saying if that formula's not working, then at some point
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: it's going to be like.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: You're going to switch it up?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: If it's not working, how long have we been doing it?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: What are they going to do?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: No, but I'm just saying at some point.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: So what do you think?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: You know what they told me when I got cut?
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: They said. That's a good point. They said, yeah, we know.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: We're not saying that you're not a good back or
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: you're not the best back, but we're not winning.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: We're not winning.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: What do I miss? How much were you getting paid
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: the last year?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: My last year, eight.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: He held out.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: I was kind of wanting to ask about that. He
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: held out one year, and then the next year, that's
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: when they ended up releasing you, right?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: He held out back to back.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Nah, I held out after.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, you held out back to back years.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: No, I ain't not back to back years. I held
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: out after.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, he didn't show up to OTAs and stuff
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: until they made sure that the different money was made.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: So, hold on. So after my second year, so after
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I went for 2,000 yards, I was supposed to make,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I think it was like 700, 800 or whatever. Because
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: you're on your rookie deal.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: Rookie deal.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: So they ended up moving the money that I was
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: supposed to make in my last year of that contract.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: They gave it to me. So they gave me five million.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: That's insane that you got that in your rookie deal.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: That's wild. I didn't know you could do that.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Second year.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: And then my third year, that's when they paid me.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: And then you held out in what year?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: The third year.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: Third year. Before the third year, I held out. That's
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: when they paid me.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: No, after the third year, that's when they paid me.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: I held out or whatever. But that's what I'm saying. So,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: like he said, it absolutely don't make no sense at all.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: But they say we weren't winning. So, even though I'm
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: a great back, they saying we're not winning.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: So- So what are the Titans going to do right
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: now to be Super Bowl contenders?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: We need a receiver.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: We need receivers.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Do you think.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: They should have traded A.J.? Hell no.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: We need a receiver and we need an athletic tight end.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: You know, he can become... He can become him. Right now,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: we know.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: No, we already know what A.J. can do. He's a
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: Pro Bowl.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: You needed the two sides to come to an agreement.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: I think AJ made it difficult.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Why couldn't we give him that? You painted a quarterback, 25.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: You painted a lot of dudes. In this one, I
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: don't understand.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of moves being made.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: No, we have AJ.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Who do you think, Jeff Simmons or AJ, if you
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: need it?
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Bro, how do we?
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: We worry about that when we get there. How do we?
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're paying you.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: And then when he comes up, we'll worry about that.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: From my understanding, it was like 30 a year, 29, 30.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: No, 25.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: He getting 25 in the Eagles.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: He got 25 a year, but he won it.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, he won it?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: Allegedly, from what I've heard. He's getting 25 from the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Eagles now.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I heard him tweet. From what I've heard,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: he was asking for 25. But he tweeted and said
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: that he was asking for 25. But he probably wasn't.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: But how do you give a Tannehill 100 before you
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: pay Derrick?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: I think they're different parts. I think Tannehill was on
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: the last year of his deal. I think Derrick got
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: two more years.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I would have to war room this thing.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: You're saying why would they pay $ 10- 100 million before Derrick?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: He didn't give AJ what he wanted.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Derrick wasn't up for his new deal, was he?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: No, but he had that rest of 2,000 yards.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: He didn't get paid for that. You know the business.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep you as long as they can
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: on that rookie deal. Yeah, that's from a team standpoint.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: You got to do that.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: And they needed a quarterback. They needed to bring a
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: quarterback in. And then that's when the Mariota thing happened.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: So why are you not trading?
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: In that year when.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: They replaced Mariota with Tannehill, they went to the AFC Championship.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: They can't betray him on Tannehill.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: So you give him 100?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: With a pick.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Where's O'Neal? Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: We know he's hurt, but that's what I'm saying.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: Like, OK, bring Jarvis Landry. Bring somebody that we know
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: is a proven number one.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: I say because, man, listen, they disrespect the position, man.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: That's my guy.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: When he starts feeling better, I think when he's, I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: don't know, I know them knees are tricky. So, like,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: I think when Bobby starts feeling better, he'll.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: Be, but.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, before he got hurt, he rushed, he, not rushed,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: he received 1,000 yards four years in a row.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's hard.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: I think he was on his way to five or
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: either was on his way to four.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: So, you have Bobby Trees with A.J.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: But, bro, last year you had Derrick Henry, A.J. Brown,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: and Julio Jones.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: Not everybody was really on the field at the same time.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably wasn't.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: But no, that's why I said- Who's doing the same.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Stuff as they are right now? Is he doing it now?
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: This is fucking awesome, boys. It's got to end right now.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: We'll have to do it again. We'll have to collab again.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: We'll be back soon for sure.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you.