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- 0:23Yes, it is true.
- 0:25It's very true.
- 0:26Over the weekend, we we had some we had some anniversaries come by, some anniversaries of patriotism on Saturday and Sunday that took place.
- 0:39Paul Revere's ride and the shot heard around the world.
- 0:44These are obviously they're some of our favorite anniversaries.
- 0:49And they are favorite because they are so instrumental in the laying of the foundation of this country.
- 0:58And yes, we should talk about them.
- 1:00We should celebrate them, especially this year in celebration of 250 years.
- 1:06And we're gonna do that today.
- 1:18This conversation that Lyndon McMahon had a few days ago.
- 1:23She was speaking somewhere about the I don't know, but some institute, some I don't know where she's at.
- 1:30Uh the the Berkeley Center or something or other.
- 1:33I'm not sure.
- 1:35But but she makes remarks, and you've got to hear the remarks.
- 1:40I am um, I'm gonna play the remarks for you.
- 1:49Right next to what's happening here on May 1st and cities all over the country, where again, students are, or not students are planning this, but organizations are planning a student walkout to protest ice, juxtaposed next to what's happening in New York City with this communist mayor over there.
- 2:14And uh and also all of this taking place during our 250th, it makes me wonder: are we in a crisis of patriotism in this country?
- 2:28I'm gonna let you answer the question.
- 2:31I will provide my own input along the way as we go, but but are we in it in a crisis of of patriotism?
- 2:41We that again this weekend we had uh you know, I did not get to it on Substack.
- 2:48Uh, I just I was just swamped.
- 2:52I and I probably will in the next couple of days.
- 2:55I'll I will have something out on Substack that uh really details this idea, the idea of of patriotism, and perhaps what it means and and this crisis that that we're in, which you know, after you listen to McMahon's comments, then um, you know, you can decide for yourself if if you think we're in a crisis or not.
- 3:27After we after we go through the news here on the uh this May 1st, you know, walkout, after we get to uh you know, some of the clips about what's happening in New York City, uh you're going to decide, and I think I know how you're gonna go.
- 3:46I think I know the decision.
- 3:49I I know your answer to the question.
- 3:53Are we in a crisis or not?
- 3:55All right.
- 3:56So first let's go to history class, my friends.
- 3:58This is one of my favorite things to do is to go to history class.
- 4:05The reason it's a favorite is you know, we talk about this all the time.
- 4:09Uh, it's it's because history is important, it's because we we learn things from history when we study history, when we explore history, when we read and dive into history, we have this opportunity to be introduced to a variety of ideas, a variety of qualities and characteristics from from individuals who express these ideas.
- 4:37One of the individuals here in our in our history class today is none other than uh Paul Revere.
- 4:45April 18th, 1775.
- 4:50This is perhaps the most famous ride in American history.
- 4:54Now we've talked about other rides around here, and I have documented uh the historical account of other midnight rides, and you can read them on Substack.
- 5:06They're there on Substack.
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- 5:42All right.
- 5:42Uh 1775.
- 5:45Paul Revere's ride is indeed probably the most famous in American history.
- 5:51Uh, the colonies are coming closer and closer to open rebellion.
- 5:56The British general Thomas Gage has ordered 700 troops to march from Boston to Concord that night under the cover of darkness, in order to seize the militia's military supplies.
- 6:12And also, it's been rumored.
- 6:14Also, uh, Dr.
- 6:17Joseph Morren has uh discovered intelligence that the British troops plan to arrest two particular patriot leaders, Samuel Adams and John Hancock.
- 6:29These two men are beloved, especially in Boston Town.
- 6:35They are uh they are beloved, they're energetic, they're out here essentially leading the charge.
- 6:42Matter of fact, it was let me see.
- 6:46There's a letter here.
- 6:48I've got a copy of this letter that see if I can pull this up that Samuel Adams writes to his wife, and he's kind of you know, he's writing, you know, in terms of not necessarily not not necessarily gloating, but there's kind of this that this gloat to it.
- 7:00In terms of not necessarily not necessarily gloating, but there's kind of this gloat to it.
- 7:07Um he says, I'm told this this would be what's the date on this.
- 7:08Um he says, I'm told this this would be what's the date on this.
- 7:12So this is November 29th, 1776.
- 7:12So this is November 29th, 1776.
- 7:16So this is a year and a half later, just about the events surrounding Paul Revere's ride, where Dr.
- 7:16So this is a year and a half later, just about from the events surrounding Paul Revere's ride, where Dr.
- 7:23Joseph Warren says to Paul Revere, hey, we have intelligence.
- 7:23Joseph Warren says to Paul Revere, hey, we have intelligence.
- 7:28Uh we do know for a fact.
- 7:28Uh, we do know for a fact the British are marching to Concord, and they are going to take the uh the supplies.
- 7:39They're going to take our ammo.
- 7:42They they know where we're keeping it stored.
- 7:44And also, also intelligence says that they're going to uh capture John Hancock and John and Samuel Adams.
- 7:53I need you to get out there and warn them.
- 7:56Uh, so this letter that Sam Adams writes to his wife is now a year and a half later.
- 8:01He says, I'm told that Lord Howe has lately issued a proclamation offering a general pardon, with the exception of only four persons.
- 8:11Those four persons would be Dr.
- 8:13Franklin, Colonel Richard Henry Lee, Mr.
- 8:18John Adams, and myself.
- 8:21He says, I'm not certain of the truth of this report.
- 8:24If it be a fact, I'm greatly obliged to his lordship for the flattering opinion he's given me of myself as being a person obnoxious to those who are desolating a once happy country for the sake of extinguishing the remaining lamp of liberty, and for the singular honor he does me in ranking me with men so eminently patriotic.
- 8:47Ah, I do love this letter here.
- 8:49I mean, Adams is like, okay, all right, he's gonna offer a pardon to everyone except me, my cousin John, Richard Henry Lee, and Dr.
- 8:59Franklin.
- 9:00The I am in good company.
- 9:01I can't believe the great company I'm and I I'm honored.
- 9:06I'm honored to not be offered a pardon alongside these other three stalwarts of independence, as it were.
- 9:18So Sam Adams is definitely somebody that who has uh he's done a lot to take the lead here, and alongside John Hancock.
- 9:31And so Dr.
- 9:32Joseph Warren tells Paul Revere, hey, and we've got this intelligence.
- 9:38Now it turns out that maybe they weren't after uh Hancock and Adams.
- 9:43There's some uh indication that those uh intelligence reports were were were false.
- 9:50But nonetheless, this is what Samuel Adams is operating under this assumption.
- 9:56Um, that the British wanted to move in secret.
- 10:00They were hoping that their plans would not be discovered.
- 10:04However, uh, as I said, Dr.
- 10:08Joseph Warren and his patriot spies were everywhere.
- 10:12And uh before long, the silversmith Paul Revere was galloping through the night, spreading the alarm for quote country folk to be up and to arm.
- 10:24That's how Henry Wadsworth Longfellow put it in his famous poem.
- 10:30Uh titled, I think it's called Paul Revere's Ride.
- 10:34Paul Revere's ride.
- 10:35Listen, my children, and you shall hear of the midnight ride of Paul Revere.
- 10:40If you read the poem, it's it's got a it's got a cloppity cloppity sing song melody to it.
- 10:49It's almost the the cloppity cloppiness of it is almost as if you can hear the horsehoof's riding.
- 10:56Listen, my children, and you shall hear of the midnight ride of Paul Revere, cloppity cloppity cloppity clopp.
- 11:02I mean, you can hear it literally throughout the entire poem.
- 11:06It is a it's a beautiful poem, really.
- 11:10Uh, there are several inaccuracies in it, misconceptions, as it were, um, that are given to us about Paul Revere's ride, in part because of Longfellow's poem.
- 11:24Uh one is that in the poem, Revere waited for a signal lantern to be hung in the tower of the old North Church, uh, to know how the red coats were moving, one if by land and two if by sea.
- 11:38The sea would be the the Charles River.
- 11:42In fact, uh Revere himself directed the signal to be sent to warn other patriots in the area.
- 11:48So that the poem reads um, one if by land, two if by sea, I on the other shore will be.
- 11:58Uh, I'm not sure what stanza that's in.
- 12:00It's kind of towards the kind of towards the back, one if by land, two if by sea, but I mean that that's the line.
- 12:08One if by land, two if by sea, I on the other shore will be.
- 12:13But he wasn't uh on the other shore, ready to, you know, ride up.
- 12:18Uh oh, here it is.
- 12:19It's in the second stanza.
- 12:21One if by land and two if by sea, an eye on the opposite shore will be, ready to ride and spread the alarm through every Middlesex village and farm for the country folk to be up in arm.
- 12:33But uh, you know, Paul Revere was the one uh giving the signal.
- 12:39Uh he he was not on the other side of the shore.
- 12:42He was not with his his horse at that point, waiting for the signal to be lit.
- 12:49Um, another misconception is that Revere galloped along, calling the British are coming, the British are coming.
- 12:55In fact, he would not have yelled that because the colonists still thought of themselves as British.
- 13:02So more likely he might have said something like the regulars are coming out.
- 13:06As a matter of fact, when he gets to the house, where John Hancock and Sam Adams are, the person on guard does recall that he hears Revere saying the regulars are coming out.
- 13:20Um, and he did reach Lexington.
- 13:22He did warn Hancock and Adams of the danger.
- 13:25And then with that mission accomplished, he jumped back onto his horse and set out for Concord.
- 13:31But he never got to Concord, actually.
- 13:34The uh British patrol captured him.
- 13:37But a companion escaped and and rode to Concord to alert the Patriots there.
- 13:43Uh, there were actually more riders than just Paul Revere.
- 13:48Dr.
- 13:48Joseph Warren had sent out a first rider, uh, as a matter of fact, Joseph Dawes.
- 13:54And it was, and then he called Revere in later, and because he feared Dawes wouldn't make it in time.
- 14:00Time.
- 14:00And so then he sent Revere.
- 14:00And so then he sent Revere.
- 14:02Revere being a faster rider, Revere knowing all of the uh a variety of trails and roads to take.
- 14:02Revere being a faster rider, Revere knowing all of the a variety of trails and roads to take.
- 14:10And indeed, Revere did get to Lexington before Dawes did.
- 14:10And indeed, Revere did get to Lexington before Dawes did.
- 14:16And then they were also met up with another doctor, I forget his name.
- 14:16And then they were also met up with another doctor, I forget his name.
- 14:22Uh a third who who wanted to ride to Concord uh with the two men.
- 14:22A third who wanted to ride to Concord with the two men.
- 14:27So the three of them did take off to Concord together.
- 14:27So the three of them did take off to Concord together.
- 14:30But when they came upon a British patrol, the three bolted in separate directions.
- 14:36And indeed, I think it was the doctor.
- 14:39Don't quote me wrong here.
- 14:41It was either Dawes or the Doctor.
- 14:43I think it was the doctor, actually, who made it to Concord to warn the Minutemen.
- 14:50Paul Revere did not make it, however.
- 14:53He was detained.
- 14:56They questioned him, finally letting him go.
- 15:00But by then the warning had flown from village to village, and hundreds of colonists quickly armed themselves.
- 15:08And when the red coats reached Lexington at dawn, the minutemen were waiting for them.
- 15:20They were all ready to go.
- 15:22And this then takes us to the very next day.
- 15:26This would be April 19th.
- 15:29And this is indeed the shot heard around the world.
- 15:35This would be the day that the American Revolution starts in earnest.
- 15:39Right here.
- 15:51That is the report.
- 15:52700 British soldiers march out of Boston with orders to seize any and all colonial weapons that they can get their hands on.
- 16:02And it took them till dawn, but they finally reached Lexington.
- 16:08And there about 75 American minute men were up and at arms.
- 16:12They were waiting for them.
- 16:15They were waiting for them on the village green, as it were.
- 16:21Captain Jonas Parker ordered the Patriots, don't fire unless you're fired upon.
- 16:26But if they mean to have war, let it begin here.
- 16:29So they were all just holding their peace.
- 16:32Literally and figuratively, uh, at arms.
- 16:36And the captain commanded them: don't fire first.
- 16:40Don't fire unless you're fired upon.
- 16:43Um damned rebels disperse, he cried.
- 16:49And the outnumbered colonists, uh, that this would have been the uh British commander who who was ever in charge of the uh 700 troops that day, ordered the Americans to lay down their arms and disperse, referring to them as damned rebels.
- 17:08Uh the outnumbered colonists grudgingly began to drift away at that point.
- 17:13It was just, you know, he hollered, disperse, you damn rebels.
- 17:17And so they were starting to.
- 17:19The British weren't necessarily looking for a fight that day.
- 17:24They wanted to come and take away the weapons, though.
- 17:27That was the point, because they did not want the the Americans to be able to arm and defend themselves.
- 17:33And so when he commands them to disperse, they're kind of like, well, I mean, okay, I guess they don't want to fight.
- 17:39We're gonna we're gonna put our our our guns away.
- 17:42We're gonna we're gonna slowly start sludging away, as it were.
- 17:47And they do.
- 17:48They begin to slowly sludge away.
- 17:51However, someone fires a shot.
- 17:54No one knows who.
- 17:56Nobody knows if it's from the American side or from the British side, but a shot was fired.
- 18:03And it surprised the British, and in their ranks, they let loose a volley.
- 18:09The British just start unleashing.
- 18:11Uh, and a few seconds later, uh, eight men lay dead, and ten men lay wounded on the American side there at the Lexington Green.
- 18:22It just took a matter of seconds.
- 18:25And uh that was it, that absolutely unleashed uh what would prove to be um uh the the start of the the revolutionary war, and it was it was umerson, Ralph Waldo Emerson, who who drafted the poem, uh the shot heard round the world.
- 18:50So he's the one that kind of made this this statement famous.
- 18:54His poem uh says, by the rude bridge that arched the flood, it's not nowhere near as long as um uh longfellows, by the rude bridge that arched the flood, their flag to April's breeze unfurled.
- 19:09Here once the embattled farmer stood and fired the shot, heard round the world.
- 19:15The foe long since and silent slept, a like the conqueror silent sleeps, and time the ruined bridge it swept down the dark stream, which seaward creeps on this green bank by this soft stream.
- 19:32We set today a votive stone, that memory may their deed redeem, when like our sires, our sons are gone.
- 19:40Spirit that made those heroes dare to die and leave their children free, bid time and nature gently spare the shaft we raise to them and thee.
- 19:52The shot heard round the world.
- 19:53So this was it.
- 19:55This is what this is what started the uh the whole shebang, but uh as the redcoats start to continue up the road to Concord, hundreds of Americans gather.
- 20:09And then another small battle ensues before the British decide that it's time that we better retreat.
- 20:14We better get back to Boston.
- 20:16And this is really when the real fighting begins.
- 20:20The road back to Lexington became a nightmarish gauntlet of deadly fire for the redcoats.
- 20:26Uh, Americans lay in ambush behind trees, rocks, wood piles.
- 20:31The helpless British columns endured the sniping nearly all the way back to Boston.
- 20:37When the day was over, about 250 British soldiers had been killed or wounded.
- 20:43The colonists had lost about 90, including uh those uh eight or ten that uh were initially killed uh on the Lexington Green.
- 20:57Uh news of the conflict caused militiamen all over New England to shoulder their muskets and run to Boston, and the struggle for independence had begun.
- 21:00Men all over New England to shoulder their muskets and run to Boston.
- 21:05And the struggle for independence had begun.
- 21:09As Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote in his famous poem Concord Hymn, the Americans had fired the shot heard around the world.
- 21:09As Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote in his famous poem Concord Hymn, the Americans had fired the shot heard around the world.
- 21:17Well, we don't know if it was the Americans who fired it.
- 21:17Well, we don't know if it was the Americans who fired it.
- 21:20Again, it might have been the British who fired it, but it was indeed the shot heard round the world.
- 21:20Again, it might have been the British who fired it, but it was indeed the shot heard around the world.
- 21:27This is this anniversary.
- 21:27This is this anniversary here is important to us.
- 21:32It's important to Americans.
- 21:33It's especially important in this 250th year that we're in.
- 21:39We're celebrating 250 years of glorious American independence.
- 21:46And I've got to tell you when we hear the comments from Secretary McMahon coming into this next segment.
- 21:56I'll get to those.
- 22:20Are we in it?
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- 27:36All right, my friends, the question on the table.
- 27:38We just we just came out of an excellent history class.
- 27:41I mean, it's one of my favorites.
- 27:44Uh Paul Revere's ride, the shot heard around the world, the 18th and 19th of April.
- 27:50That's a big deal.
- 27:51It's a big deal in American history.
- 27:53And uh it's especially a big deal this year since we're celebrating 250 years of the declaration of independence.
- 28:00Of the Declaration of Independence.
- 28:03And while we are celebrating 250 years of the Declaration of Independence, there are things happening in the in this country.
- 28:03And while we are celebrating 250 years of the declaration of independence, there are things happening in the in this country, things that things we need to be made aware of.
- 28:12Things that things we need to be made aware of.
- 28:17Uh appalling things, really.
- 28:18Appalling things, really, things that go against the grain.
- 28:20Things that that go against the grain.
- 28:23And I and it's it's leading to what appears to me to be a
- 28:23And I, and it's it's leading to what appears to me to be a uh a crisis in patriotism.
- 28:32That's where we're at, right?
- 28:34A crisis in patriotism.
- 28:37We have these uh these protests, these these school walkouts that are planned for May 1st.
- 28:46And they are they're troubling because kids are being indoctrinated to stand up against law enforcement in this country.
- 28:59It turns out that their target is ice, but ice is law enforcement.
- 29:04They are enforcing the the laws that protect the country's borders.
- 29:12That's their point here.
- 29:16But there are people in our education system in this country that would wish to drive a wedge between students and the country itself, in order to create this vacuum of patriotism.
- 29:36This is what uh the secretary had to say, Linda McMahon.
- 29:41She she starts out by by sharing one of the most, in her words, one of the most disappointing things that that she's that she's come across.
- 29:50And I want you to hear what she has to say.
- 29:55I'll tell you the saddest thing that happened to me relative to any of these tours, uh, was uh was at one school that I went to, and the principal told me he said, Wow, he said, I'm really glad you had the words, you know, to the pledge of allegiance, you know, uh up on the boards because I don't think the kids in our school know what they are.
- 30:16And they can opt out of saying the pledge of allegiance, and so the school just opted out.
- 30:22And they didn't have to say it anymore.
- 30:24Uh I thought, what a comment that is.
- 30:27And this same principal, when he got up to announce for everyone to stand to say the pledge of allegiance, he said, now understand you're not pledging allegiance to any particular flag, but it's to a spirit.
- 30:38So you can pledge this allegiance to whatever flag you think is is appropriate for you.
- 30:42And wow, how can we how can we really drive home patriotism and love of country and respect for our flag if we actually have uh teachers and principals who are not encouraging the very basics of what is patriotic in our country?
- 31:02Oh, I don't even know what to say about that.
- 31:06I mean, I do, I do know what to say, but uh I don't know how to say it and and be kind.
- 31:14I do, I do know how to say it and be kind.
- 31:17And it's and so here it comes.
- 31:20This I'm wondering, you know, she she cites this one school that that's that she's gone to.
- 31:27How many schools are uh that does this uh include?
- 31:33How many schools refuse, or I shouldn't say refuse?
- 31:37I mean, but refuse is the right word.
- 31:39How many schools are quote unquote opting out of saying the pledge of allegiance?
- 31:45And to the point where this this principle gets up there, and he says, no, no, I mean you're you're pledging allegiance to not to any one flag, even though the the pledge says I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
- 32:02You're not pledging your allegiance to any one flag.
- 32:04You're you're pledging your allegiance to a spirit or to an idea, or to so you can you can make this pledge to any flag.
- 32:13Wrong go, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
- 32:19No, it's it's not to just any flag, it's specific.
- 32:24You're pledging your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
- 32:40How do you not know that?
- 32:42How is that not memorized?
- 32:44How are your so the the whole point of removing the pledge or opting out of the pledge of allegiance appears to be uh threefold to me?
- 32:58Number one, you you do as this principal said, you don't have to give your allegiance to any one flag.
- 33:05It can be it can be to any flag, it's the spirit of it of the thing.
- 33:09So you're not pledging your allegiance to the American flag, even though those are the words.
- 33:14Number two, the students don't know and realize that uh you're you're pledging your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which she stands, that that you're not the kids aren't understanding that we're a republic.
- 33:31I mean, they've been told from birth that we're a democracy.
- 33:34And so let's just keep that idea going.
- 33:36We are a democracy, the democracy in America.
- 33:40That's that's what this is about.
- 33:41We're a democracy.
- 33:43And therefore we have to uh we have to act like a democracy.
- 33:50But we're not a democracy or a republic.
- 33:55And the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America declares that because and to the republic for which we stand.
- 34:06So the first thing is you can you can make this pledge to any flag.
- 34:11The second thing is that let's remove this idea from the students that America is a republic, because then they're going to start asking, what's a republic?
- 34:20And then they're going to have to learn about republicanism.
- 34:23And we don't want them to learn about republicanism.
- 34:25We'd rather them learn about democracy.
- 34:29So that's two.
- 34:31And three, perhaps the most important of the pled uh of the pledge, which was uh added years later in the 1950s, I think 54 to be exact.
- 34:44And that is that uh we're we're one nation under God, indivisible.
- 34:53We're under God.
- 34:55And if we're under God, that means God is over us.
- 35:00That means our respect, our allegiance is to and for God.
- 35:00That means our respect, our allegiance is to and for God.
- 35:08That's the declaration here.
- 35:08That's the declaration here.
- 35:10That's what we're declaring.
- 35:10That's what we're declaring.
- 35:12This is what we're making known to literally every soul on the planet.
- 35:12This is what we're making known to literally every soul on the planet.
- 35:19When you call yourself an American and you pledge your allegiance to that American flag.
- 35:19When you call yourself an American and you pledge your allegiance to that American flag, and not it, not it, not a Ukrainian flag, by the way.
- 35:26And not it, not a Ukrainian flag, by the way.
- 35:30Not a not an Israeli flag, not a uh Pakistani flag, not a Canadian flag, not a British flag, not a Mexican flag, not a Russian flag, not a French flag, not a German flag, not an Italian flag.
- 35:45I could go down the list.
- 35:47This is this is not just any flag.
- 35:51This principle should, in my opinion, shouldn't be a principal.
- 35:58He should um I mean, he needs to go back to school.
- 36:03The the the pledge of allegiance is to the American flag and to the republic for which she stands.
- 36:12One nation under God.
- 36:13That that whole chunk right there.
- 36:16Is it that schools have the opportunity to opt out of the pledge?
- 36:23Is it because of that chunk?
- 36:25The answer is yes.
- 36:26I'm telling you, the answer is yes.
- 36:28The answer is let's get rid of that chunk.
- 36:32Let's let's get rid of this whole idea of patriotism.
- 36:36We don't want the kids to be patriotic.
- 36:40We would rather them be anti-patriotic.
- 36:45We would rather them be taught that instead of loving their country, they should look at their country with uh cynicism.
- 36:55They should look at their country through a suspicious lens.
- 37:00They should be very suspicious about what their country is up to.
- 37:05And therefore, let's let's get the kids to walk out of class.
- 37:12Let's get the kids to protest.
- 37:16Let's um let's teach the kids how to protest.
- 37:22And one of the main organizations behind this recent trend to protest ICE immigration and customs enforcement, one of the recent organizations encouraging children to walk out of classes en masse, uh, which again is going to is going to happen next month, May 1st, is to help promote their agenda, uh, which includes achieving what this organization says are eco-socialism, multiracial democracy, and green new deal legislation.
- 38:02Um the sunrise movement.
- 38:05This is the group that is that's spearheading this.
- 38:09This information, by the way, is brought to us by our friends over there at Defending Education.
- 38:16They issued this report just a couple days ago, detailing the sunrise movement.
- 38:25During its March 17th online membership meeting, we're talking about sunrise here.
- 38:31They call on schools to train up employees and students to disrupt the federal government ahead of planned May 1st, May Day protests as part of an ongoing political revolution to structurally change the foundations of this country.
- 38:52That, my friends, is a direct quote.
- 38:56Their desire is to create a political revolution to structurally change the foundations of this country.
- 39:07And this is why they don't want the Pledge of Allegiance being memorized, being spoken.
- 39:15This in my school, we say the pledge every morning.
- 39:23And there are some mornings, by the way, that if if we if we get busy and we kind of get into it to something else and we're distracted, and we go a few, you know, seconds without saying the pledge, a student will stand up and raise their hand or say, excuse me, what we we missed the pledge, and then we will get the pledge said.
- 39:48Patriotism is ingrained in us.
- 39:53But there are groups and there are movements that are in positions of leadership in this country that so desperately want to destroy this whole idea of patriotism.
- 40:08Because according to their own agenda, they want to structurally change the foundations of the country.
- 40:15The only way you can structurally change the foundation of the country is to remove the foundation the country's currently on.
- 40:23You've got to dig up the foundation.
- 40:26You've got to jack up the building.
- 40:29You know, you've you got to put it on the jacks.
- 40:33You've got to break up the old foundation, and you've got to pour a new foundation.
- 40:37You got to put a new foundation in.
- 40:39Then you lay the building back down on the new foundation.
- 40:41It's a thing.
- 40:42I mean, it happens.
- 40:44I watched it happen here in my in my hometown last summer, where they took the old ladies' auxiliary library building in this town.
- 40:54This this town that I live in, by the way, is it could be one of the oldest towns in Michigan.
- 41:00And there's this old building, the old ladies' auxiliary, historical museum.
- 41:05And they jacked that building up and poured a brand new foundation.
- 41:09It's doable.
- 41:10You can tear away the old and put in the new.
- 42:00Calling for boycotts of the hotel chain and engaging in what they called wide awake events, where protesters gathered outside of Hilton branded hotels and made as much noise as possible to prevent ice officers and everyone else staying there from getting any sleep at all whatsoever.
- 42:22Another slide on their website illustrates a domino effect that starts with the ideological conversion of students and
- 42:22Another slide on their website illustrates a domino effect that starts with the ideological conversion of students and young people and spreads to teachers, customers, service workers, city service workers, factory service workers, shipping and transportation workers, and ultimately to military and police defections.
- 42:45This is this is communism 101.
- 42:49They have zero reservations about using children to advance their political ideology.
- 42:54This, according to Ryan Staley, who is the research director at Defending Education.
- 43:01These kids are being used for the propaganda of this movement.
- 43:06The Sunrise movement was frequently listed in an earlier report produced by uh Staley and Defending Education that identified 357 protests and walkouts at middle schools and high schools so far this year.
- 43:22We're we're we're in April.
- 43:24And this report documents 357 student walkouts.
- 43:32I mean, what yeah.
- 43:34Are we okay with this?
- 43:37Do we not see that there is a crisis of patriotism happening within our schools?
- 43:45The organization is backed by wealthy donors, recruit students via social media, and provides signs used at the protest.
- 43:54And in many of these instances, and the last round of protests, which I don't know, happened in February, I think, January 31st.
- 44:03That was the day somewhere, I don't know.
- 44:06Teachers took time out of their classroom, took classroom time to allow children to make anti-ice posters.
- 44:18Uh the slide presentation on their website.
- 44:22Uh no, I'm sorry, the slide presentation is not currently on Sunrise as a website.
- 44:28But the information noted in it is contained in different pages throughout the site, including what they call a student rise up guide.
- 44:38Uh here's a portion of what the guide says.
- 44:42May Day 2026 is our chance to practice mass non-cooperation.
- 44:48Prove our power so we can pick bigger fights and set the movement's agenda with clear demands.
- 44:54On May Day 2026, students at hundreds of schools are walking out, rising up and disrupting business as usual.
- 45:05Uh defending education anticipates participation from K 12 students across the country, especially in leftist states such as Minnesota, Oregon, Washington, and California, probably Maine, although they're not on the list here.
- 45:22Most of them, Staley said, don't necessarily agree with or understand the ideology they'll be walking out for.
- 45:34Of course, they don't understand what it is they're protesting.
- 45:37But are you kidding me?
- 45:38An opportunity to get out of class?
- 45:40Yeah.
- 45:41I got to get out of class free card.
- 45:43I'm taking it.
- 45:45Staley previously told the Epic Times that teacher unions are connected to public school protests nationwide.
- 45:52We know this.
- 45:54We know this is happening.
- 45:55We know the teachers' unions are certainly behind this.
- 46:00They're certainly spearheading this.
- 46:02All right, I'm looking at the clock, and I am going to let's do this.
- 46:07Let's pause here for a minute.
- 46:08Let's take a break.
- 46:09On the other side of this break, we'll get into the comments on how the teachers' unions are directing and spearheading this along with Marxist organizations.
- 46:18All right, my friends, we'll pick it up on the other side.
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- 49:52Uh disappointingly, I might add.
- 49:55Well, I'm I'm I'm disappointed.
- 49:57I am.
- 49:58I don't know how else to describe it.
- 50:01I was disappointed to hear Secretary McMahon talk about public schools that she's visited on on this 250th tour.
- 50:12And she's got the words to the pledge up there, and the principal saying, I'm so glad you put the words up there, because I don't think our kids know it.
- 50:20I mean, we opt out.
- 50:22And then this man has the audacity to get up and tell the kids it doesn't matter which flag you're pledging this allegiance to, by the way.
- 50:30I mean, that's a spirit.
- 50:31It's it's just it's just a spirit of the thing.
- 50:34You can pledge whatever flag you want.
- 50:37Even though the pledge says I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
- 50:44I just that's disappointing to me.
- 50:47And I wonder how many other schools have fallen into this trap.
- 50:52And really, it's it's a trap that was planned by the teachers' unions.
- 50:58I mean, Becky Pringle here, she's the president of the NEA, the largest teachers' union in the country.
- 51:05And she's appeared in Sunrise Movement videos.
- 51:10Uh, this this movement that is that wants to stir up kids and and and get them to walk out of class and protest law enforcement in this country.
- 51:22Two days before the January 30th National Day of Action, coordinated by the coalition national shutdown.org, Pringle appeared in one of the videos.
- 51:34Here's what she said on behalf of the education professionals who belong to the NEA.
- 51:41Thank you, Sunrise, for standing on the front lines in Minneapolis and in so many cities across our nation, demanding justice in all forms.
- 51:51Thank you, Sunrise for teaching our this is me.
- 51:54This is my my own paraphrasing here.
- 51:56Thank you, Sunrise, for teaching our kids to hate this country and to refuse patriotism and just and uh and to attack law enforcement.
- 52:06Thank you for teaching our kids to hate the law, because we we don't want them to be law-abiding citizens.
- 52:11No.
- 52:12Oh why would we want that?
- 52:16Staley, again, with defending education, said these events exacerbate an ongoing discipline crisis in public schools.
- 52:28Districts might not have updated policies to address walkouts or delegate responsibility to teachers who might only deduct class participation points with no further discipline for skipping without an excused absence.
- 52:44School officials often don't understand how freedom of speech protections apply in school settings and fear they'll be sued for First Amendment violations if they don't allow students to participate in walkouts.
- 52:58It's because the teachers don't understand the law either.
- 53:02That nobody understands the law because they're not taught the law.
- 53:09Our current students aren't taught the law.
- 53:12Their teachers certainly weren't taught the law.
- 53:16Instead, they were taught how to just skirt around it.
- 53:21They don't want nasty grams from attorneys and the bad attention, Staley said.
- 53:27They'd rather deal with the fallout from just a few parents afterwards.
- 53:32And there are parents who are upset about this.
- 53:35We've documented it here.
- 53:36We've talked about it.
- 53:37This one mom pulled in to her school in Oregon and found her daughter outside holding a sign in this protest out in the middle of the street.
- 53:48And the mom went live it.
- 53:50And she said, That's it, we're out, we're done.
- 53:52We're not doing this anymore.
- 53:53I'm pulling my child.
- 53:56I mean, good for her for doing that.
- 54:00Uh, I think she should have pulled her child a long time ago.
- 54:03But you know what?
- 54:04The best time to plant an oak tree is 20 years ago.
- 54:07The second best time is to do it now.
- 54:10So, you know, the best time to pull your child from public school might have been, you know, five, ten a decade ago.
- 54:17But the second best time is do it right now.
- 54:20Uh do it now.
- 54:22Uh safety, of course, is another concern, given the heightened fear of terrorism.
- 54:28A massive May 1st mobile is mobilization of children walking out of their classrooms.
- 54:35Uh, is not a good idea.
- 54:37It's a dangerous idea right now.
- 54:40Uh I mean, what are you opening your children up to?
- 54:45You're you're getting them outside of the building.
- 54:47I just I think the stupidity here reigns supreme.
- 54:50Reign supreme.
- 54:52Defending education urges parents to talk with their children about the consequences of skipping in order to promote politics that they don't necessarily support or understand.
- 55:05Teachers can also use this current event as a teaching moment and challenge students to state their views in writing as if they were submitting a letter to Congress or in their local newspaper.
- 55:17Staley said students' responsibility is to be as educated as possible, so they really belong in the classroom.
- 55:23And this is a great opportunity, by the way, for teachers to instill patriotism.
- 55:27How about that?
- 55:29How about we do that?
- 55:31How about we how about we go back to patriotism?
- 55:36All right.
- 55:36Uh, there's so much more to get into on this, and I've I've not gotten into it, I haven't even scratched the surface.
- 55:43This might be one of those weeks.
- 55:45This might be a week where we just uh, you know, I don't know.
- 55:48We we we deal with the issue here.
- 55:49We deal with patriotism because if we want to continue this country, then we we've got to raise patriots.
- 55:59We've got to raise kids who love it.
- 56:00Kids who love it.
- 56:01I think for the most part, we do.
- 56:01I think for the most part, we do.
- 56:04I think I know this audience, this listening audience, you are raising your children to love your country.
- 56:04I think I know this audience, this listening audience, you are raising your children to love your country.
- 56:10And that's why I implore you.
- 56:10And that's why I implore you.
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