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- 0:01Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
- 0:05Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to the Wes Carroll Morning Show.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Thursday morning, 10th day of September. I'm Wes. Thanks for
- 0:16Speaker 2: joining me.
- 0:18Speaker 3: We are a day away from the 25th year since
- 0:28Speaker 3: the 9-11 incident. It's an anniversary, but anniversary has this
- 0:37Speaker 3: connotation of it being something positive. And I know that's
- 0:40Speaker 3: the correct word because it's talking about this annual thing
- 0:43Speaker 3: that takes place. But if we could just take a
- 0:45Speaker 3: minute and just say that it's 25 years since this
- 0:49Speaker 3: attack happened. And a few things to process about this
- 0:55Speaker 3: for tomorrow. And I wanted to do this today because tomorrow...
- 1:01Speaker 3: It is, in fact, Friday, and I'm going to do
- 1:03Speaker 3: my normal Friday show because I wanted to do this today.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Just take a minute ahead of 9-11 to think about
- 1:12Speaker 3: what happened on that day and then what happened on
- 1:17Speaker 3: the days immediately after, the hours after the attacks and
- 1:24Speaker 3: the days that came after the attacks. And a few
- 1:30Speaker 3: things to go through as we get into this day tomorrow,
- 1:35Speaker 3: this anniversary, for lack of a better word. And that's,
- 1:38Speaker 3: I mean, it's the correct word.
- 1:40Speaker 2: I understand that. But a few things. And let's just
- 1:45Speaker 2: understand what we were dealing with. We were dealing.
- 1:49Speaker 3: With terror attacks. Radical Islamic terror attacks is what they were.
- 1:56Speaker 3: People who hated America.
- 1:57Speaker 2: People who.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Would still hate America if they were still with us.
- 2:04Speaker 3: The ones involved still hate America, the ones that are
- 2:08Speaker 3: still around.
- 2:10Speaker 2: And the.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Plan, of course, was to take down the greatest city
- 2:19Speaker 3: in America as a way to take down America, take
- 2:21Speaker 3: down this building, the World Trade Center. in America to
- 2:26Speaker 3: take down the Pentagon, to take out the White House.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Those were all parts of the plan here for what
- 2:31Speaker 3: the goal was. Thinking that this was going to be
- 2:36Speaker 3: the thing that would take down America, like the symbolic attack, like,
- 2:40Speaker 3: you know, you think we can't get to you and
- 2:43Speaker 3: this is going to be our way to get to you.
- 2:46Speaker 3: And I know we have spent 25 years of people
- 2:49Speaker 3: trying to decide All the conspiracies, all the things that
- 2:56Speaker 3: they say went on behind the scenes and.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Who did what.
- 3:01Speaker 3: The reality, though, is that we've had 25 years since
- 3:07Speaker 3: this specific strategy.
- 3:09Speaker 2: On taking down America.
- 3:12Speaker 3: And what's happened since then has been, let's just be
- 3:18Speaker 3: real here, a very different strategy on how to in
- 3:24Speaker 3: some cases, infiltrate and take elected positions to try to
- 3:31Speaker 3: take down America. We've seen this play out, and we've
- 3:36Speaker 3: had some people that have worked their way into.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Some offices in the U.S.
- 3:43Speaker 3: And have now only recently become more blunt about what
- 3:47Speaker 3: their intentions are and what they want to do. And
- 3:50Speaker 3: if you want to take down.
- 3:54Speaker 3: What America stands for and what America is, the idea
- 4:00Speaker 3: of we're going to take some planes, we're going to
- 4:04Speaker 3: crash them into some buildings, and that's going to show
- 4:06Speaker 3: everybody was not a particularly effective plan, unless the goal
- 4:12Speaker 3: was to lower our inability to talk comfortably about what
- 4:21Speaker 3: Islamic terrorists would do and what Islamic terrorism is. And
- 4:28Speaker 3: we've gone through 25 years of awkwardly fumbling through it,
- 4:32Speaker 3: not really knowing how to describe it, not really knowing
- 4:36Speaker 3: how to say what it is. And it's not, you know,
- 4:40Speaker 3: some do, and some feel like they have to pull
- 4:43Speaker 3: punches and they can't talk about terrorism for what it is.
- 4:49Speaker 3: So you take people now and you get them into
- 4:52Speaker 3: elected offices and then you let them decide that what
- 4:57Speaker 3: America is and what it stands for is horrible. It's
- 5:00Speaker 3: the same kind of things that people 25 years ago
- 5:05Speaker 3: were trying to tell us by flying planes into buildings.
- 5:09Speaker 3: And now it's, you know, I'm going to become mayor
- 5:12Speaker 3: of the city we tried to take down and let's
- 5:14Speaker 3: come up with all these ridiculously stupid ideas that will
- 5:17Speaker 3: slowly destroy that city.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Let's do that.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Let's figure out a way to take it down from
- 5:24Speaker 3: the inside. Let's figure out how to get elected into
- 5:28Speaker 3: positions in Congress and take America down from the inside.
- 5:34Speaker 3: And you got some that are just blindly going, yeah,
- 5:37Speaker 3: that sounds great.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 5:41Speaker 3: The things that we know and we understand about what
- 5:44Speaker 3: happened 25 years ago should have resonated with us for
- 5:50Speaker 3: at least 25 years, and of course didn't do that.
- 5:53Speaker 3: What it did was gave us just, I don't know,
- 5:57Speaker 3: like a week.
- 5:59Speaker 2: It wasn't long.
- 6:01Speaker 3: We had hours after the attacks where people were in
- 6:05Speaker 3: shock and just couldn't believe that this had happened on
- 6:08Speaker 3: our soil, which.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Was the correct response.
- 6:13Speaker 3: I remember vividly what happened on that day as I
- 6:18Speaker 3: was put in a position where I had to cover
- 6:21Speaker 3: 9-11 as a news announcer for the first time I'd
- 6:28Speaker 3: ever really had to cover news.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Prior to that, my radio.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Career involved working on a couple of radio stations and
- 6:38Speaker 3: just playing music, telling you what the music was, telling
- 6:43Speaker 3: you some anecdotes and stories on the air and trying
- 6:47Speaker 3: to entertain you and that's what i was trying to
- 6:49Speaker 3: do and by that point 25 years ago i was
- 6:55Speaker 3: program director of a top 40 station and i was
- 6:59Speaker 3: programming the music i was programming the contests i was
- 7:02Speaker 3: doing i had a great team around me but i
- 7:05Speaker 3: was ultimately the buck i was the guy that had
- 7:09Speaker 3: to make the decisions the hard decisions and And that
- 7:13Speaker 3: radio station at the time, we were running a delayed
- 7:19Speaker 3: broadcast of the West Coast, L.A.-based Rick D's morning show.
- 7:27Speaker 2: And we.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Would receive the show after it aired on the West
- 7:34Speaker 3: Coast from L.A. And then we would air it the
- 7:38Speaker 3: next day. It was a very bland, very generic broadcast.
- 7:43Speaker 3: It's Rick Dees. I like Rick Dees. I liked Rick
- 7:46Speaker 3: Dees as a kid. I had Disco Duck on vinyl.
- 7:52Speaker 3: So having an opportunity to work with Rick Dees, to
- 7:57Speaker 3: have him recording liners for my afternoon radio show was
- 8:02Speaker 3: a surreal experience for me. Just hearing Rick Dees speaking
- 8:07Speaker 3: my name, it was wild.
- 8:08Speaker 2: That was just, you know.
- 8:10Speaker 3: The kid who owned the Disco Duck record, listening to
- 8:14Speaker 3: that happen, that was wild. On a personal note, but
- 8:20Speaker 3: the show itself was.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Sort of the.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Best option that we had at the time, but it
- 8:28Speaker 3: wasn't a good option. The show itself was fine. It
- 8:32Speaker 3: was a generic broadcast so that it could air the
- 8:36Speaker 3: following day and anything that had any time-sensitive content info
- 8:40Speaker 3: in it they took all of that out and they
- 8:43Speaker 3: were just giving us a very bland very generic.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Show that we had to air.
- 8:49Speaker 3: So at no point did upper management when this idea
- 8:53Speaker 3: was floated think well what if something bad happens what
- 8:57Speaker 3: if something horrible takes place in the middle of all
- 9:00Speaker 3: of this then what do we do that wasn't even
- 9:05Speaker 3: considered it was just you know This is just.
- 9:08Speaker 2: What we'll do.
- 9:09Speaker 3: We'll run this show and it'll be this very, very bland,
- 9:12Speaker 3: milquetoast thing that we'll get from the West Coast. So
- 9:17Speaker 3: we were running the previous day's show when the attacks
- 9:23Speaker 3: took place. And there was no opportunity to break in
- 9:29Speaker 3: live because Rick Dees would have been live on his
- 9:33Speaker 3: show in L.A., but we didn't have that and we
- 9:36Speaker 3: weren't able to, you know, I guess maybe his show
- 9:39Speaker 3: probably wasn't even starting yet or just getting started, depending
- 9:43Speaker 3: on what part of the timeline. I don't know if
- 9:45Speaker 3: he was maybe in the building. I don't know exactly
- 9:48Speaker 3: what he was doing. I just know that that morning,
- 9:51Speaker 3: that was my final semester of school, and I had
- 9:56Speaker 3: an early class that I went to that morning. And
- 9:58Speaker 3: while I was in class, all of this started. And
- 10:02Speaker 3: this was not a, you know, everybody's pulling out their
- 10:07Speaker 3: cell phones and watching what's taking place in real time
- 10:10Speaker 3: period 25 years ago.
- 10:11Speaker 2: It was different.
- 10:14Speaker 3: This was when I got to work. because I was
- 10:18Speaker 3: listening to Rick D's while I was driving in with
- 10:20Speaker 3: no information about what was happening. And then I got
- 10:22Speaker 3: to work and everyone is standing in my studio with
- 10:26Speaker 3: their mouths open and I'm watching the TV. And there
- 10:30Speaker 3: had been a situation, I don't know, months prior where
- 10:33Speaker 3: someone crashed a small airplane into a building in New York.
- 10:39Speaker 3: And when I walked in the door, one of my
- 10:43Speaker 3: team told me, you know, another plane just hit the building. Now,
- 10:49Speaker 3: or just hit the World Trade Center. Now, what I
- 10:51Speaker 3: heard was, in my head, hey, remember the.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Small plane that hit the building months ago or whatever
- 11:00Speaker 2: it was? Another one hit it.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And I thought, oh, wow, that's a pretty weird coincidence.
- 11:08Speaker 3: And I looked up at the TV, and I realized
- 11:10Speaker 3: this was pretty significant. And I said, wait, another small plane?
- 11:13Speaker 3: And they said, no, this was.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Another– large plane, passenger plane. And I.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Said, so this is another one. And they said, no, no, no.
- 11:31Speaker 3: This is the second large plane that's now hit both
- 11:34Speaker 3: of the towers.
- 11:34Speaker 2: And I realized, oh. And instantly had that feeling.
- 11:39Speaker 3: That everyone had when the second plane hit and realized
- 11:42Speaker 3: this is very intentional and we're under attack and all
- 11:46Speaker 3: of those things. So I spent a few minutes gathering
- 11:51Speaker 3: all the information that I could get so that I
- 11:54Speaker 3: could go live and talk about it because, again, we
- 11:56Speaker 3: were not in a position to serve our listeners and,
- 12:01Speaker 3: you know, under our obligation as a licensed radio station.
- 12:04Speaker 2: We weren't able to do that with Rick D's running.
- 12:09Speaker 3: So I got all the information I could get, and
- 12:11Speaker 3: I went live and interrupted the show just to say,
- 12:16Speaker 3: here's what's going on.
- 12:19Speaker 2: And it was me.
- 12:21Speaker 3: It was Amanda, who at the time was doing middays,
- 12:26Speaker 3: would have been the one coming on at 10 after
- 12:30Speaker 3: Rick D's finished.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Still one of my closest friends, Amanda. And she.
- 12:37Speaker 3: Was the first person that was working with me as
- 12:41Speaker 3: my assistant program director where I thought, I can take
- 12:43Speaker 3: a vacation. She's got this. So I knew that once
- 12:47Speaker 3: we got the info together that we would be able
- 12:49Speaker 3: to cover what was going on in a professional way.
- 12:55Speaker 3: So it's not to say the other people working there
- 12:58Speaker 3: couldn't have done that. I just knew this was as
- 13:01Speaker 3: serious as it was going to get for what we
- 13:03Speaker 3: were doing at this radio station.
- 13:06Speaker 2: So we went live.
- 13:07Speaker 3: We pulled Rick Dees off and we started talking about
- 13:10Speaker 3: what was taking place and we.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Were covering as best we could.
- 13:16Speaker 3: It was the first time that I had to cover
- 13:18Speaker 3: news that way. I still have people that reach out
- 13:24Speaker 3: to me. I expect this to probably be the case
- 13:28Speaker 3: again tomorrow, but people that reach out to me to
- 13:31Speaker 3: say that they found out about 9-11 from me on
- 13:35Speaker 3: the radio that morning, they had no idea that they
- 13:40Speaker 3: were in the same boat I was in. And if
- 13:41Speaker 3: we were still running Rick D's, they wouldn't have found
- 13:43Speaker 3: out when they did. So we covered it live as
- 13:50Speaker 3: best we could before someone in our building made an
- 13:55Speaker 3: executive decision that as a Fox News radio affiliate, all
- 14:04Speaker 3: of our stations were just going to go to live
- 14:07Speaker 3: coverage of Fox News. And then that's ultimately what we did.
- 14:11Speaker 3: I don't remember how long we covered it. It certainly
- 14:15Speaker 3: felt like an eternity. because it was an unbelievably high-stakes
- 14:24Speaker 3: event covering this particular story. And we did the best
- 14:29Speaker 3: that we could with the information that we were able
- 14:31Speaker 3: to get together. And there were others there who were
- 14:36Speaker 3: helping out, who were in the building that were jumping
- 14:39Speaker 3: in with information. The person who at the time was
- 14:43Speaker 3: running our Rick D show as the producer locally, who
- 14:48Speaker 3: has since passed away, Dan Masters, real name Dan Henry,
- 14:54Speaker 3: Daniel Henry, who passed away a few years ago. So
- 15:00Speaker 3: he was there helping as well, and I feel like
- 15:02Speaker 3: I should acknowledge him for that. So we did the
- 15:06Speaker 3: best we could with the information as we covered it,
- 15:08Speaker 3: and then once we went to the wall-to-wall Fox News coverage,
- 15:13Speaker 3: which lasted several days, we all just had a moment
- 15:17Speaker 3: to stare at the screen.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Some people were, you know, teary.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Some were, you know, looked sickened. All the emotions that
- 15:27Speaker 3: you would expect to come from it. And I just
- 15:30Speaker 3: remember that there was a moment where everybody had basically
- 15:35Speaker 3: taken off their political colors. This was about us collectively,
- 15:41Speaker 3: and it wasn't about the political landscape of it. There
- 15:48Speaker 3: was one person I remember in our entire office. It
- 15:51Speaker 3: wasn't specifically with my station, but one person made some
- 15:55Speaker 3: really horrible comment about the president at the time. But
- 15:59Speaker 3: other than, and everybody kind of groaned at them. It
- 16:00Speaker 3: was like, no, not now. This is not the right
- 16:03Speaker 3: time for this. So we spent a few days as
- 16:09Speaker 3: a country without wearing our red and blue or whatever,
- 16:13Speaker 3: and not a D or an R. We just sort of,
- 16:17Speaker 3: we were all Mourning all of this together collectively.
- 16:21Speaker 2: I don't know that we'll ever have that again.
- 16:25Speaker 3: I don't want something like this to have to happen
- 16:28Speaker 3: again for us to have that. But I just don't
- 16:30Speaker 3: know that we'll have that again. We've entered a phase
- 16:33Speaker 3: where we rush to not waste the tragedy. And we
- 16:41Speaker 3: now live in this world where everything is.
- 16:45Speaker 3: A conspiracy. Everything is not what it seems. We have
- 16:48Speaker 3: people arguing about a woman who killed some kids and
- 16:52Speaker 3: did the husband do it? And did she do it?
- 16:54Speaker 3: And why did she do it? And was it, it's
- 16:58Speaker 3: all conspiracy now. Everything is. And I just don't know
- 17:01Speaker 3: that we'll ever hit, you know, a guy can sit
- 17:03Speaker 3: there with a rifle and shoot someone. And if people are,
- 17:07Speaker 3: you know, people that at one time were certainly much
- 17:11Speaker 3: more respected broadcasters, are allowed to voice all of their
- 17:16Speaker 3: conspiracy thoughts on what happened and all these things. And
- 17:18Speaker 3: it's just a bizarre place that we're in. So I
- 17:21Speaker 3: don't know that we'll ever have that again. I don't
- 17:23Speaker 3: know if it would take the aliens coming to get
- 17:25Speaker 3: us before we would step back and say, hey, as
- 17:28Speaker 3: a world, we have to stick together. And we're going
- 17:32Speaker 3: to need President Bill Pullman and Randy Quaid to save
- 17:36Speaker 3: the day.
- 17:36Speaker 2: I just don't know that we're ever going to be
- 17:39Speaker 2: at that place. I don't know.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Is it when AI rises up, are we going to
- 17:45Speaker 3: collectively try to do that? Or, you know, I feel
- 17:48Speaker 3: like there'll be people that are, it'll be gays for
- 17:50Speaker 3: Palestine all over again.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Like, no, no, I side with the AI robots.
- 17:55Speaker 3: That's probably where we'll be because it's just who we
- 17:58Speaker 3: are now.
- 18:00Speaker 2: And that makes me sad. Makes me sad all over.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Again that we learned almost nothing in 25 years. And
- 18:05Speaker 3: we also learned that we have to defend what we
- 18:08Speaker 3: have now, even from the people who are less... apparent
- 18:14Speaker 3: and less obvious about what their intentions are. Although I
- 18:17Speaker 3: feel like many of the people who've gotten into elected
- 18:19Speaker 3: office have declared what their intentions are, and we should
- 18:22Speaker 3: be very aware of that. And some of them are
- 18:25Speaker 3: running in this midterm cycle, and I feel like we
- 18:27Speaker 3: have to be.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Aware of that.
- 18:30Speaker 3: And then another thing that I feel like it's important
- 18:32Speaker 3: to stress, and I don't want to sound like a
- 18:35Speaker 3: disgruntled former employee of a company, but there's an obligation
- 18:41Speaker 3: to for companies with broadcast licenses to be able to
- 18:46Speaker 3: serve communities. And we have radio stations all over the
- 18:49Speaker 3: country right now that don't have the capabilities of breaking
- 18:52Speaker 3: in live and telling us what's happening. And it's a
- 18:56Speaker 3: requirement to be able to do that. And it's just
- 19:00Speaker 3: an inability to do that. And it's unfortunate because we're
- 19:04Speaker 3: not going to have these moments where people can be
- 19:06Speaker 3: informed about what's going on if, God forbid, something like
- 19:09Speaker 3: this happens again. And it's all milquetoast radio. It's all
- 19:14Speaker 3: Rick D's pre-recorded. We even have local stations that are pre-recorded.
- 19:20Speaker 3: Everything is in the can and knocked out in a
- 19:23Speaker 3: 15-minute recording window, and then they get on with the
- 19:26Speaker 3: rest of their time. Or they go on to their
- 19:28Speaker 3: real jobs and not actually what they're pretending.
- 19:33Speaker 2: To be doing on the radio.
- 19:36Speaker 3: And I just offer that to say, if something like
- 19:39Speaker 3: this happens again, it may be closer to.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Home and we don't have a way for everybody to
- 19:43Speaker 2: know about it.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Or it's a weather event and everybody doesn't have a
- 19:46Speaker 3: way to find out about what's going on. And we're
- 19:50Speaker 3: putting ourselves in this position. We're allowing it to happen
- 19:54Speaker 3: around us. And there are certain things that we can do,
- 20:00Speaker 3: but it seems like it's very hard for us to
- 20:02Speaker 3: do those things. Maybe the most important one is that
- 20:06Speaker 3: on this anniversary... We should at the very least take
- 20:11Speaker 3: off the blue and the red hats and remember what
- 20:14Speaker 3: it was like 25 years ago and just know that
- 20:19Speaker 3: there was a brief moment in my lifetime, in our lifetimes,
- 20:24Speaker 3: if you were alive 25 years ago, that we all
- 20:27Speaker 3: felt something together collectively and we all mourned collectively.
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- 24:16Speaker 3: Ever imagined that brands like J.Crew... Coach, Victoria's Secret, eSpirit, K-Swiss,
- 24:30Speaker 3: Delia's Gap. No, Delia's and Gap.
- 24:33Speaker 2: That's two different ones. I remember Gap.
- 24:35Speaker 3: I was put off by the fact that there's also
- 24:38Speaker 3: one in here that I've never been comfortable saying out loud,
- 24:41Speaker 3: and I'm going to say it because I think I
- 24:43Speaker 3: know how to say it, but I don't know that
- 24:45Speaker 3: I've ever really been comfortable speaking it, but Juicy Couture.
- 24:50Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 24:52Speaker 3: I'm not even a hundred percent certain. I don't, I don't,
- 24:54Speaker 3: I don't just the goose, the juicy thing I don't get.
- 24:58Speaker 3: I don't understand why it's, I don't know why there's
- 25:01Speaker 3: a seafood restaurant that with that name and they talk
- 25:05Speaker 3: about how juicy all the food is. I don't, I
- 25:07Speaker 3: don't understand that from a seafood standpoint, but anyway, I
- 25:11Speaker 3: say this because apparently Gen Z is embracing these retro brands,
- 25:18Speaker 3: vintage brands, and they're coming back. With funds at thrift
- 25:23Speaker 3: stores and different reissued swag from these places. Are we
- 25:32Speaker 3: going to thrift stores for Victoria's Secret underwear? Who's doing this?
- 25:37Speaker 3: Who's dropping it off? Who's buying it? That's weird to me.
- 25:41Speaker 3: But anyway, my point is this is some nostalgia that's
- 25:46Speaker 3: making a comeback. And they're calling it borrowed nostalgia with
- 25:51Speaker 3: younger shoppers romanticizing an era they never really experienced. So,
- 25:57Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of a throwback with things.
- 26:00Speaker 3: I guess it's like throwback sports jerseys and whatnot. So
- 26:05Speaker 3: if you got some of that stuff, now's the time
- 26:08Speaker 3: to break it out again.
- 26:08Speaker 2: AI skills.
- 26:12Speaker 3: New hot thing to put on a resume, but a
- 26:14Speaker 3: new talker research survey found that 57% see AI certifications
- 26:18Speaker 3: as a new type.
- 26:19Speaker 2: Of career currency.
- 26:22Speaker 3: With millennials, it's at about 65%, Gen Z, 64%. And
- 26:27Speaker 3: they're convinced that AI will reshape their professional futures with
- 26:32Speaker 3: classic workspace skills like problem solving, communication, and adaptability still
- 26:38Speaker 3: ranking high. Knowing how to use AI is quickly climbing
- 26:42Speaker 3: the list of must-have job skills. Many workers say that
- 26:46Speaker 3: they'd use AI more often if they had better training
- 26:50Speaker 3: or felt more confident while using it. Even with AI's
- 26:54Speaker 3: growing influence, people still think human strengths matter the most.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Respondents said qualities like work ethic, patience, empathy, and emotional
- 27:02Speaker 3: intelligence are the skills that AI can't easily replace. And
- 27:07Speaker 3: nearly half said that they'd be interested in taking a
- 27:09Speaker 3: course that incorporates AI to better understand how it works.
- 27:18Speaker 3: A centuries-old Dutch tradition called dusking is getting renewed attention
- 27:22Speaker 3: as another throwback. And it's exactly what it sounds like.
- 27:26Speaker 3: The sun goes down, people gather and just sit together
- 27:29Speaker 3: without phones, without TVs. Artificial lights, no, no, no. They
- 27:34Speaker 3: just sit there together and watch the world slowly go
- 27:38Speaker 3: from day to night. The practice comes from the Netherlands,
- 27:44Speaker 3: and it's meant to help people slow down and to
- 27:49Speaker 3: tune in to their surroundings and take a break from
- 27:51Speaker 3: constant flood of notifications and distractions. According to Food & Wine,
- 27:56Speaker 3: one of the easiest ways to do it is grab
- 27:58Speaker 3: an outdoor dinner table right before sunset. either at a
- 28:02Speaker 3: restaurant or at home, and linger through twilight and let
- 28:06Speaker 3: nature provide all of the entertainment. I know that this
- 28:11Speaker 3: is centuries old, and there's this Dutch connection to it,
- 28:15Speaker 3: but I also kind of think maybe it's a little
- 28:18Speaker 3: bit like that one episode of The Andy Griffith Show.
- 28:22Speaker 3: It was Sunday, and the guy couldn't get his car
- 28:26Speaker 3: fixed because everybody was slowing down.
- 28:27Speaker 2: So I think maybe they could call it Mayberrying, just
- 28:30Speaker 2: a little bit. Because you can't do it every evening.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Who's got time to do this every single evening? That
- 28:37Speaker 2: would be challenging. Are you spending too long in the shower,
- 28:41Speaker 2: experts say?
- 28:42Speaker 3: Probably. Especially if you're... One of my kids is in
- 28:48Speaker 3: there longer. He just loses track of time. He's done
- 28:51Speaker 3: it since he was a small kid. He's just in there.
- 28:55Speaker 3: He's just kind of wandering. I think it's an executive
- 28:57Speaker 3: function thing. He just kind of gets lost in the
- 29:00Speaker 3: things he's supposed to be doing in there. And then
- 29:02Speaker 3: it's like at the very end, he's like, oh, I
- 29:04Speaker 3: guess I'm supposed to get clean now. I was supposed
- 29:06Speaker 3: to wash my hair. He's just been standing there enjoying
- 29:09Speaker 3: the warm water. The average American spends about 16 minutes
- 29:13Speaker 3: in the shower. One environmental scientist says that's too much.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Dr.
- 29:18Speaker 3: Pablo Pereira-Doel of the University of Surrey argues that three
- 29:23Speaker 3: minutes is enough to get clean with a couple of
- 29:26Speaker 3: extra minutes if you're washing your hair. So why do
- 29:28Speaker 3: people stay in there so long? According to research... It's
- 29:31Speaker 3: not about hygiene. More than 40% of showers are taken
- 29:35Speaker 3: for reasons like relaxation, self-care, warming up on a chilly morning. Yes,
- 29:43Speaker 3: that's all part of it, especially when you've got.
- 29:45Speaker 2: A kid who's just standing in there enjoying the hot water.
- 29:47Speaker 3: This particular expert's advice is keep it short, turn off
- 29:50Speaker 3: the water while scrubbing if you can, keep that second shampoo,
- 29:55Speaker 3: skip the second shampoo lather, and then your water bill
- 29:57Speaker 3: in the, you know... Water supplies in general would.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Maybe thank you.
- 30:05Speaker 3: That'll do it for this Thursday edition of the show.
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- 30:10Speaker 2: Catch you back here tomorrow morning.
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