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The Running Man (2025) IMAX Experience · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 1: In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
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  Speaker 1: sense of it all. This is movies and marketing. Next
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  Speaker 1: Saturday Night, where're sending you back to the future. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: make my day, Corbut.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're crazy Dutch bastard. What we've got here is
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  Speaker 2: failure your mill gate take them around? Where's cross all
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  Speaker 2: of how for we might as well? Good time. I
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  Speaker 2: am an a f I agent. All right, we're ready,
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  Speaker 2: ready to get running.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta catch my breath. I just got done. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a running man. I don't know if you know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I heard about that. So you're always getting chased.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not for good reasons, not for your family. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: mostly my family's chasing me. And I'm like no, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm running away. I gotta get to the podcast. I'm like, don't,
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  Speaker 1: don't do it, don't podcast. I'm like, i gotta go.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the way it goes. You know, one day
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  Speaker 1: you're an upstanding citizen, the next you are on a
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  Speaker 1: deadly game show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the course we're following right now. So we're
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  Speaker 2: talking exclusively about the running man today.
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  Speaker 1: There's still a way out for you. It's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: show in the country.
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  Speaker 2: It's our birth right right, Welcome to The running Man,
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  Speaker 2: new release in theaters. We're gonna cover it from a
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  Speaker 2: few different angles. But before we get there, of course,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna ease into things a little trivia. Get your
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  Speaker 2: brain ready for this.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, Well, the last cast, I think I did really,
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  Speaker 1: really well. This one. We'll see. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're gonna do alright. I think you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do all right. I say that, you know, setting you up,
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  Speaker 2: no pressure, but I think I think you'll do all
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  Speaker 2: right on these ones obviously related to The Running Man,
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  Speaker 2: which has you know, a lot of different tendrils connected
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  Speaker 2: to it.
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  Speaker 1: M hmm.
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  Speaker 2: This new running Man so one of those, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen King originally published The Running Man under the pseudo
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  Speaker 2: name Richard Bachman in nineteen eighty two.
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  Speaker 1: You know this, Yeah, but do you know what other
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  Speaker 1: book that.
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  Speaker 2: King published under the Bachman name was also made into
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  Speaker 2: a movie in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think you know this? Uh? Do I give
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  Speaker 1: multiple choice on this or no?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you need it. I can give you
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  Speaker 2: a hint though, if you need that.
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  Speaker 1: I do need a hint because it's that type of
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  Speaker 1: day for me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, like The Running Man, you know, movement, this title
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  Speaker 2: also involved his movement, so it's a movie we also
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  Speaker 2: just just had out recently.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, dude, I don't know. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of this. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: I have like an inkling of what this is. So
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  Speaker 1: you think you've got running, yeah, swimming man.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe if you're maybe, if you're maybe if you're not
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  Speaker 2: moving as fast as running.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, that's right. Okay, yeah, I do know this. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is the one that had Mark Hamill in it,
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  Speaker 1: The Long Walk. The Long Walk, Yeah, because this is
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  Speaker 1: one that I did want to see and I forgot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. But you know what's funny is I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't think of that because I was thinking about the
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  Speaker 1: Richard Bachman and I'm thinking to myself, like Richard Bachman,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but of obviously Stephen King, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: King is Bachman.
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  Speaker 2: Bachman is King.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Long Walk another a nineteen seventy nine Bachman you
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  Speaker 2: know book, a dystopian novel about a walking contest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with like the interesting factoid of that Richard Bachman,
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  Speaker 1: you know pen name that he used was that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: authors had this, They had like a one book a year.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't write beyond that or whatever. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't really understand that world. But that's why he created
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  Speaker 1: things under Richard Bachman. So the original Running Man movie
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  Speaker 1: had based on the story by Richard Bachman. I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: this is Stephen King, and I in my brain I
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  Speaker 1: didn't connect those two things, and then ended up looking
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  Speaker 1: it up and I was like, oh, okay, now I understand.
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  Speaker 2: King is Bachman is King. It was like a Shamalan moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the usual suspects like Kaiser SoSE
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  Speaker 1: and my cup out of my hand dropped and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it.
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  Speaker 2: All makes sense. Now. Well, here's another trivia question for you.
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  Speaker 2: So you mentioned the previous Running Man. That movie version
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  Speaker 2: was released in nineteen eighty seven, and start, of course,
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  Speaker 2: our guy Arnold Schwarzenegg. What other Arnold Schwarzenegger classic was
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  Speaker 2: also released that same year, nineteen eighty seven. Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: can give you a hint on this one too, if
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  Speaker 2: you need it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think of that timeline like Commando Predator.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was Predator. Give me a hint
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  Speaker 1: so i'd know, like which one I'm thinking about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the hint is this ip is also still alive.
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  Speaker 1: And well this year brought Predator. Yeah, yeah, it's Predator.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, that's the one. Predator was released in June eighty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Running Man released in November eighty seven. Good year for Arnold.
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  Speaker 1: He was on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was you know, within his peak, probably as
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  Speaker 2: he's like building up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And it's kind of funny because as
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  Speaker 1: we talk about this movie today, the Running Man, the
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  Speaker 1: difference is in the plot from the original eighty seven
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  Speaker 1: and this movie in twenty twenty five. They're pretty substantial
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  Speaker 1: plot changes. Oh yeah, which I've never read the book.
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  Speaker 1: I'll preface that now. I think have you ever read it?
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  Speaker 2: No, I've never read.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So for the listeners out there, you know this
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  Speaker 1: is movies in marketing, So let me give you a
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  Speaker 1: little little rundown of the movie itself. Okay, the Running Man.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do a little bit of a comparison
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  Speaker 1: because I think there are going to be people who
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  Speaker 1: are listening to the cast who know us and know
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  Speaker 1: our love for that time period of The Arnold the original,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be good to kind of compare
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  Speaker 1: the two things so you can see the differences. So
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  Speaker 1: the original summary is, in a future dystopian America, a
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  Speaker 1: wrongfully accused and convicted policeman gets his shot at freedom
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  Speaker 1: when he's forced to participate in a game TV show
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  Speaker 1: where convicts called runners must battle killers for their freedom.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty simple. IMDb's is pretty simple summary. There's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more to that. But the new one is a
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  Speaker 1: man joins a game show in which contestants allowed to
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  Speaker 1: go anywhere in the world are pursued by hunters hired
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  Speaker 1: to kill them. That in and of itself should explain
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  Speaker 1: sort of the difference between him one is he's sort
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  Speaker 1: of forced into it. He feels forced in this movie
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  Speaker 1: because of his predicament and like in the in the
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  Speaker 1: new one, yeah, but in the old one, he was
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  Speaker 1: literally forced into the game show. He's a prisoner, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that was his way out, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: things sort of unfold from there. Still kind of some
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  Speaker 1: of the same premise of like the hunters, the killers
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  Speaker 1: that are after him, they're you know, like part of
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  Speaker 1: the game show. And he's also allowed in this new
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  Speaker 1: movie to go anywhere, disguise himself, all that stuff. It's
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  Speaker 1: a little less like a prison sentence as it is,
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  Speaker 1: depending on your your outlook on things. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: has a very societal, uh social commentary, you know of
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  Speaker 1: like economic class and conspiracy, you know, social media manipulation.
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  Speaker 2: You know, corporation controlling everything.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah, So it's got a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: going like thematically through it. And you know, the class
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  Speaker 1: inequality would be the big one, right, Like that is
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  Speaker 1: a huge part. And I'm sure that that's why it's
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  Speaker 1: closer to the original. I could see King writing this
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  Speaker 1: more like this movie than the original. The original movie,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they were like, we just took the
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  Speaker 1: concept and then applied it to Arnold, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty from what I've heard, pretty loose how the
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  Speaker 2: first movie even used it. It's almost like we just
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  Speaker 2: took this kind of idea of the running man mm
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  Speaker 2: hm and kind of like change that totally around. Whereas
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  Speaker 2: this one is more the actual story is more present,
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  Speaker 2: you know, King's story is more there. His original story,
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  Speaker 2: which I heard Edgar Wright talking about it too, and
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  Speaker 2: he said the novel was originally published in eighty two,
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  Speaker 2: but King wrote it in like the seventies, like the
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  Speaker 2: early seventies, right, So that's kind of where you get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the maybe some of the social you know,
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  Speaker 2: commentaryan vibe where that initially came from.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of you know, you mentioned Edgar Wright, who directed
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  Speaker 1: and also wrote some of the screenplay for this. Edgar Wright,
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  Speaker 1: the movie buffs out there, you know, Shanna the Dead,
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  Speaker 1: the World's End, Baby Driver, which we love, We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about on this show, Scott Pilgrim Versus the World. So
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  Speaker 1: he's got some you know, some cred there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: depending on what kind of movie you like to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I've seen a lot of them on his list.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, you've got Glenn Powell, who is
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  Speaker 1: in this movie. Seems to be the hot thing as
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  Speaker 1: of the like last three to five years, probably has
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  Speaker 1: been tons of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a rare name actor we have nowadays, like people
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  Speaker 2: actually like know who he is.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. One other actor. I'll just kind of pull
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  Speaker 1: out of this slightly spoil alert Lee Pace. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people don't know this guy's name, which he's been
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  Speaker 1: in stuff. Okay, this guy has been in a foundation
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  Speaker 1: which is an Apple show. He's been in cap in Marvel,
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  Speaker 1: so he was Ronan in the Marvel movies if you
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  Speaker 1: remember the Blue Guy who is like, you know, bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: He was also in Halton catch Fire, which is a
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  Speaker 1: great show. Like I think it's twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who his agent is, but he's getting
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  Speaker 1: a ton of stuff right now, and I think you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna see him more and more. And I think he's
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  Speaker 1: got a really cool name, v Pace. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Lee Majors.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of those actors who has bounced around and
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  Speaker 2: popped up in things and like you know his face
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  Speaker 2: or you've seen him in something. He's also in a
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  Speaker 2: show called Pushing Daisies that was on like a long
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  Speaker 2: time ago. That was like one of those shows that
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  Speaker 2: people would be like kind of buzzing about but nobody
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  Speaker 2: actually watched. But it was kind of like quirky and
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  Speaker 2: like Tim Burton esque and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, off topic, but some good actors in here.
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  Speaker 1: Movie had a budget of one hundred and ten million estimated,
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  Speaker 1: So right now we saw it opening night were in
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  Speaker 1: the same weekend. I will I'll tell you. Doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: like it's going to make the money back at this point,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't know. I mean, it's still first weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, could have legs it's not. Doesn't seem to be
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  Speaker 2: blowing the doors off. Looking like an opening weekend around
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  Speaker 2: like fifteen million, which is a little lower than they
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  Speaker 2: were hoping for, something around twenty mm hmm. We saw
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  Speaker 2: it in Imax opening nights. It was like first show
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  Speaker 2: wasn't exactly a full house, no, but you know, we
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  Speaker 2: were excited. There were some other people who were excited
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  Speaker 2: for it too.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like game show esque mechanics
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  Speaker 1: to the movie. They're on a game show, the ideas
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  Speaker 1: that they have to he has to survive thirty days.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not giving anything away. By the way, we said
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  Speaker 1: no spoilers. We were not giving any spoilers on this
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  Speaker 1: show today. So all stuff that has been in the
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  Speaker 1: trailer too, so you're not hearing anything that is out
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  Speaker 1: there that's going to ruin the movie for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just kind of the general setup. Hmm. So
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  Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about the movie itself. You know, again,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to give anything away if you haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen it yet, but just kind of talk about how
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  Speaker 2: we felt about a key question. I think the first one,
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  Speaker 2: did this movie live up to your expectations? I guess
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  Speaker 2: what were your expectations? And did the movie live up
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  Speaker 2: to it?
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  Speaker 1: My expectations were pretty high. I think I had a,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a fondness for this movie as a as
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  Speaker 1: a young person Arnold, like what are they going to
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  Speaker 1: do with this? That kind of expectation. Did it live up?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was good, it wasn't great. I will
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  Speaker 1: say that, what did you think?
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  Speaker 2: I'm right with you there. I do think part of
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  Speaker 2: it is my I went in with like really probably
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  Speaker 2: unreasonably high expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with some good reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think the Running Man was actually one of
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  Speaker 2: the rare things. It's probably pretty ripe for a Remaker reboot.
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  Speaker 2: I thought this was like a good thing to bring
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  Speaker 2: back the Edgar Right of it, you know, the Glenn
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  Speaker 2: pal of it. I thought these were like people I
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  Speaker 2: like that. I'm like, oh, this is a good combination here,
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  Speaker 2: it's a good mix. So I probably like raised the
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  Speaker 2: bar higher than the bar should have been raised. So
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  Speaker 2: didn't quite match my sky high expectations. I will say
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed watching the movie. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: afterwards when you start scratching at it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: where I was like, but for the most part, when
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  Speaker 2: I was watching the movie, I was like having a
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  Speaker 2: good time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good watch, Like it was good. And
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  Speaker 1: then you go back and you're kind of like, using
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  Speaker 1: your words, scratching at it a little bit. You're like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I kind of wanted a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything the movie could have done that it
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  Speaker 1: would have given me that satisfaction? Probably not, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where like your expectation sometimes is unrealistic,
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  Speaker 1: especially when it's rooted in nostalgia. You can't live up
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  Speaker 1: to it. And so I don't fault the movie for that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt the movie a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Just I'll say, you know, say some like good things first,
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  Speaker 1: like you're gonna sandwich it. You're gonna sandwich it is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I want to like I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be like turn it into like a negative thing, but
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  Speaker 2: there's some things I have to like throw out. I
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  Speaker 2: will say, watching it now, you probably have this experience too.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot funnier than I was expecting. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: at least like the first half of it, it's a
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  Speaker 2: borderline like almost comedy to some extent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to some extent. Yeah, it whips you around a
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  Speaker 1: little bit in terms of it's too close to home
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  Speaker 1: in some places, and you're like, hhm, and that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny, you know, because you're like, okay, that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's actually funny because this is supposed to be the
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  Speaker 1: dystopian future. Yet there are elements from today that are
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  Speaker 1: very accurate, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would even argue the social commentary when they
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  Speaker 2: were being funny was probably better than when they were
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  Speaker 2: trying to like be on the nose about it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing I'll say is there's some good fun
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  Speaker 2: action sequences in here. You know, without getting specific, there's
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  Speaker 2: a few of them that were in here that I
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  Speaker 2: thought were pretty good, creative and.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just kind of like a fun time all
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  Speaker 1: right now, the bad you gave me, the fluff Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the fluffiness, the happy.
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  Speaker 2: The sane witch. You know, why did the final product
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  Speaker 2: not match what was in my head? You know, I
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  Speaker 2: kind of mentioned this after we got out of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I think it starts right off the bat with Pal.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was either miscast or they wrote the
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  Speaker 2: character wrong. Maybe maybe both things. It just never it
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  Speaker 2: didn't line up for me. I never like bought it.
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  Speaker 2: They try to make him like this angry guy who's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, super protective of his family. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: just didn't really fit with me. I'm like, this would
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  Speaker 2: have probably been better if they just made him like
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  Speaker 2: a cocky, down on his luck guy who's like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go on a TV show and conquer this. But
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  Speaker 2: I just I could not get there with the actor
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  Speaker 2: and the character, with what they were trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: I was almost like, should we be following one of
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  Speaker 2: these other Running Man contestants?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will agree with you, And I think I've
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  Speaker 1: broken it down to this. You almost have this conflict
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  Speaker 1: because he seems like way over the top angry and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't really jive with everything else that's going on,
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  Speaker 1: because you're kind of like, oh, that's supposed to be funny,
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  Speaker 1: but he's playing it kind of serious. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it could have been maybe the casting, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: a different person my bill pull that off a little differently,
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  Speaker 1: or to your point, they could have wrote that a
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  Speaker 1: little differently. To be a little less angry, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or giving us some backstory something, Yeah, had to happen
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  Speaker 1: there to make that a little more believable. That was
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  Speaker 1: the part that was a struggle for me too, So
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  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, for me, it was like they say he's angry,
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  Speaker 2: but he didn't seem all that angry for most of
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  Speaker 2: the movie. So I'm like, either go all in on
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  Speaker 2: the anger because he's not. I don't think of that
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  Speaker 2: actor as like an angry guy. That's where I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: go all in on the anger and like put somebody
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: else in there who seems really angry, or like throw
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: that out of there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you said this after we left the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: movie that you felt like they abandoned that at some
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: point in the movie.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I felt like, after like twenty minutes, they're kind of like, well.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, Glenn, don't be so angry in this scene,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and he's like, but you wanted me to be angry.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Now we're done with the anger part, which that was
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: in the beginning.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Now you're having you're running, man, you're having a good time.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're running. You're on a show that releases all
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that anger. So you don't need to be angry anymore.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that was one thing. You know. Then they
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: do a lot of like kind of like satire of
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: TV and stuff in there, and I thought a lot
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: of that stuff felt a little like behind the times,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: like that stuff. I thought they should have updated a
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: little bit for now.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Can you give an example, Well, it's.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Like everybody's watching like TV and game shows, and that
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: felt very much like attached to the time this was created.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And they even have like a and then this not
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: really a spoiler, they have like a keeping up with
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the Kardashians satire that they keep showing that people are
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: like watching on TV. And I'm like, man, this feels
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: like ten years ago that were like kind of making
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: fun of this thing. We're like over that now.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. I mean, if you're just
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: talking about tech the contestants send in tapes.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know it's supposed to be like a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: weird future that's technology is different.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But in that I do get what you're saying. There's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: like a little bit of that. And then I guess
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that's where you kind of disassociate where we're at now.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I guess it's more of like, oh, remember when it
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: feels a little less like the future, so it doesn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: hit as hard.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the probably the biggest thing was, you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I came into this and I was like looking for
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: an Edgar Wright movie, and there's there's pieces of that,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't have that feel like you know, like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Baby Driver felt like this guy's putting his stamp on.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Sean of the Dead felt the same way. You know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you get like the music and some of the cuts
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: and like there's like a style to it. Yeah, you
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: got that in like pieces, but it just didn't have
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that overall like feel to it. The third act of
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the movie, the end of the movie kind of like
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: falls off a little bit. I feel like it was
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: almost like lost. His touch was like almost gone.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, like I think about it and I go, oh,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: it makes sense because like this seems like a huge
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: budget film, one hundred ten million. There's a lot of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: powers that be that are probably like expectations people had,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and he was sort of like trying to curry favor.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: That's probably what happened there, because you see those little
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: bits of it, they're like, we want you to do
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: your thing. And then he's doing his thing, They're like, well,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: but can you do it more like this? Which is
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the opposite of what you just asked, right, which.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I get he was trying to make something, you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: more for the masses, But sometimes when you do that,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you take away, you know, what makes it unique. You're
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: kind of like signature thing, which was something I was
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: like looking forward to. So that was just something that
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: deflated my expectations a little bit. Those were just a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: few of the things that when I like thought about it,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why wasn't this what I was hoping it
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: would be?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Completely? Yeah, So what was your favorite part of the movie.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: You talked about the you know, like you sandwiched the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: good and the bad, but what was your favorite part?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Personally, my favorite part, without giving too much away, there's
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: kind of like an action scene that takes place in
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: a house after Michael Sarah shows up, Oh yeah, which
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I thought was pretty both funny and creative and interesting.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So that was probably my favorite part of the movie.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Sarahve Sarahve, you know what about you? Two things I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think really made this fun for me. And I don't
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: know what the marketer side of me is. The product
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: high ins hmm right, there's a lot of product high
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: ends and they're very blatant. And then the Michael Sarah
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: part and his hot dog obsession. And I'm not giving
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: anything away. You won't have any idea. It's like just
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It hits, it's funny,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it's funny tofbeat, it's hilarious. Yeah, it makes no sense.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But also you know, okay, so between those two things,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the product high ends too. Let me just say, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm only counting a handful that I could remember. You
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: got Puma, you got Monster Energy Drink, you got car Heart,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and then Liquid Death, some big, very obvious product hie ins.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So from a marketing standpoint, you know, it's kind of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: like we talked about in the days with like E.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: T and all those movies where they were just like
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: kind of pumping the products. This is one of those,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and it made sense for the movie. That's what's funny,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: is like this movie is all about you know, hyper capitalism,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: commercialism of everything. You know, So it made a lot
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of sense. But funny too when you see it because
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the product tie ins were like all things that you've
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: seen today. Puma, though crazy to start seeing them kind
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: of make their way. You think it'd be like an
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Adidas or a Nike or something, but they, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: they use a brand that has not seen a lot
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of love as of you know, like the last twenty years.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those brands, they really pop out. They really get
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: a spotlight, uh, especially some of them. So that's a
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: good one and intentionally so I think there's also in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: generally the movie has some good kind of easter eggs
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: m M. You know, there's a good callback in the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: beginning to the original Running Man that got a good chuckle.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: So there's stuff like that that I bet if I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: watch it again you'd find even more.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Which brings me to the connect question would you see
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it again? Will you see it again?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I'm you might see it again. You know, this is
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: something it's like would you recommend it? I was my
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: family was asking me this.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I would.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: It's a fun time at the movies. It's a good
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: movie to watch, So I'd probably watch it like one
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: more time and I'd probably recommend it as like, like
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: you said, good, not great. I'd like temper people's expectations.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I think you'd enjoy it more that way. You know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: if you're not looking for an egg or right classic,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: but just kind of a popcorn movie. Yeah, I think
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it's a good time at the movies.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. The main word that I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: use there might I might see it again. I wouldn't
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: go see it again in the movie theater. I definitely
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't pay, you know, like twenty bucks for an Imax movie.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I think if you go into
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it with the expectations of it's just a good movie.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I think there's some pleasant, you know, thrills in it,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and to your point, you might catch things the next
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: time around that you go, oh, okay.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: You know, in the old days, you might call this
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: like a cable movie, when we would when you just
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: stumble across something and end up watching some of it
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and be like, it's growing on me a little more,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It might be that kind
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: of movie. Yeah, But let's talk a little bit about
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the imax of it. So we saw this in imax.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Imax right now making a lot of money for movies.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: So while domestic box office declined eleven percent in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: third quarter of twenty twenty five, Imax box office grew
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: significantly over the same period, up twenty nine percent in
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the domestic market and fifty percent globally. This is a
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: draw for people to go to the movies right now.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: People might not be just going to movies, but they're
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: going to movies in Imax. All that being said, we
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: talked about The Running Man as a movie itself. What
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: did you think about The Running Man in Imax?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I was let down. I was let down. Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like maybe it was the theater, it says
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Edgar Wright's first movie in Imax. Maybe the theater we
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: saw it in wasn't as good. I feel like that
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna give us an IMAX movie, give us
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: like the true experience. Maybe the theaters are doing this
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit, like they're writing the coattails of the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: success of IMAX right now, and they're like saying it's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: an Imax movie or an Imax experience, and then they're
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: not truly delivering because, like you and I were talking
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: about this, it seemed like it was proportionally shorter height
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, and I don't know what was
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: going on there with that theater specifically, but it was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a bit of a letdown for something you're spending a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: decent chunk of money on they need to up their
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: game a little bit.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: To be clear, this this is a movie that was
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: not made for Imax, right, but it's like converted, you know, optimize.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: For Imax, right, So so that might have been played
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a part.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably part of the reason it didn't use
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the entire screen. You know, it's like kind of cut
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: off from the top of the bottom. You know. One
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: of the previews we saw was for Ivatar, Fire and Ash,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and when you saw that, which used the entire screen,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: you know, made for Imax, You're like, Okay, give me this,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: this is what I want. Yeah, But then going from
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: that to The Running Man, you know, it felt like
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: downgrade a little bit, you know, because you're still getting
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you're getting like part of this scre and you're like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it's still bigger, But is it that much bigger?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, exactly. Probably hurd it that we just
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: saw a trailer right before the movie that was more
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: true to the IMAX experience. The average IMAX ticket is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: thirty dollars. I was reading, you know, there's in some
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: places like fifteen. Other places it's like twenty five. It
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: requires you to I think sort of reflect on whether
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: or not and also do a little research like are
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you getting a true Imax experience for the movie you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: want to go see that in because don't pay for that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. I don't know that it's worth it. Yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: but something like you know, one battle after another which
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: was like shot in Imax or Avatar Fire and Ash.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I think there's like some real value there,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and just going to a movie in Imax does feel
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: like you're doing something special. Yeah, so you do want
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to you want that experience, you know, you want to
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: go in there and be like, oh yeah, like watching
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Avatar seeing that on the screen when you're like your
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: full field of vision in front of you, you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: is covered. Yeah, that feels like something better. There's like
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: an ooh factor to that. This didn't really have that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And again expectations were like, yeah, the Running Man and Imax, Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: We should have saved it for an Avatar Fire and Ash.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Also I will say, just side bit, Avatar Fire and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Ash looks a little cartoony.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Well, did you feel that way about the Way of Water.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: A little bit? A little bit, I felt like I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: kind of felt that.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Way about the way it was.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I felt like and maybe that was just
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you know, at the time of the original, it was
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: way it surpassed everything we were experiencing up until that point,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: so it had a leg up, you know in terms
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of our perception. And now I wasn't super impressed by
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the Also, they showed us the entire movie in the trailer, Like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: why would you show me that much of the trailer
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: or that much of the movie? Show me less?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not the entire movie, because the entire
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: movie is four hours long.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Twelve if you've got the director's you know cut director's cut. Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so i'max, you know, at a little bit of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a wet down. Also, yeah, I
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: mean this is the real downer of an episode. Now, yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: we like to stay positive. I'll give you credit.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: You've you know, you sandwiched everything really nicely at the beginning,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and then we just kind of like you know, trailed off.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: This led us into what our next portion of this
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: is the shadow of Arnold's biceps. Hello, qutie Pie. One
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of us is in deep trouble the original versus now
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and you know, the big question that comes up is
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: how does this compare, which I told a little bit
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of the comparisons of the plotline, How does it compare
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to the eighty seven Arnold Classic, not to be confused
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: with the Arnold Classic, which was his bodybuilding show that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he had. It was called the Arnold Classic. Did you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: know that? No?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it. So it's like, what are you
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: For all Arnold fans out there? You know, you know
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: who you are.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the things I was interested
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: going into this. I'm like, how much is this going
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to be a like or different from the eighty seven movie,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: which you know I've seen several times, and it is
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: almost unrecognizably different. You know, it's completely completely different from
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: beginning to end with all the people involved. You know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: as I was talking about, I thought for sure this
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: one was going to blow the doors off the nineteen
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: eighty seven. But I think I still probably prefer the
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: eighty seven in some ways, even though it's pretty dated
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you watch it, yeah, but it's also kind of darker
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and more you know, raw in some ways. I actually,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: when I watched it recently, I was like, oh, the
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: four K transfer, this actually looks still looks pretty good.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I agree with that, But it has some things that fit.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it feels very eighties and someoney. It has
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Richard Dawson as like the game show host who used
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: to hoacht the family feud and you know, was like
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: known for like hitting on all the female contestants, who's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: actually pretty good. And it has like Jesse the body
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Benchura who was a wrestler and then became a governor,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and Jim Brown who was like an NFL player. So
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: those are very like eighties things. So it's got like
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a cheese factor to it. It kind of works for
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the the way they do the premise there, with the
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you know where you're very much in the game show
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of the movie. If I'm like putting these
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: side aside, they're very different. That one's still kind of
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it's almost so hyper focused. It works for me a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: little better.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I get that this is closer.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: This new one is closer to the original novel.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think Stevie King liked the original at all.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know it was sort of like loosely adapted. Yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and I get that, you know, no matter how factual,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this is, like, this is as close to the original,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: because again I can't speak to reading and then watching
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the movie, but I can watch the movie and hear
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: people say that it's closer. But I don't know if
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: it's necessarily a better movie because of that. I think
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: there's always the element of you watch something present time.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: You know, it feels higher quality because it dated media
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and the way that they filmed it and stuff like that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But to your point, the four K version of the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: original still looks really good.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks pretty clean.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it does. You know, there are elements to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that that's dated. But I think the New Ones a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: very well made movie. It feels good. It has some
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of that campiness that we need, you know, because like
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the original, I think there's there's a little bit of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that campiness for other reasons, right like because it's Arnold.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: It's that type of movie. There's a lot of like
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: goofy one liners, you know, and stuff.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Like that, what happened to Buzzsaw?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: He had to split? Yeah, he has a lot of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: one liners in there. This was that peak one liner
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: era for Arnold. But the tone feels really spot on
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: for this one. I feel like the aesthetic is pretty good.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit the theme from
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a punk rock perspective. The end credits scene. I feel
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like the graphic design of that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched the whole credits.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we watched all of the credits, which is unusual,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you know, because they all had fun little easter eggs
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in them each slide essentially, and then I really like
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: little things that they threw in there. Here's a continuous
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: quote stop filming me. That was a big one, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: then continuous theme of the middle Finger. The middle Finger
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: is kind of like the ultimate punk rock anarchy, telling
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: off the man the powers that be.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the New One has a good world where it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of like our world with just these
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: little which is what the future essentially is. You know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: if you look back like thirty years or then thirty
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: years before that, the buildings, the streets, it's all similar
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: mm hmm, but then you just have these like little
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: technological differences and things like, you know, these little touches
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: that are different. And I think the New One gets that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: There's like a griminess to it, and it like puts
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you in that world pretty well, and it does a
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  Speaker 2: good job taking you to kind of like different settings
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  Speaker 2: because the way it hops around, which the first one
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: does to some extent, but it's a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Contained, Yeah, a little more set.
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  Speaker 2: Like. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing I will say for for listeners or
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: people who are going to see this, and you could
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: disagree with me, I think the social commentary aspect is
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: way more in your face in this movie, yeah, versus
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  Speaker 1: the original. The original had some of it, but it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: was pretty secondary to the action, HM, whereas this one
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  Speaker 1: feels like media and corporate government collusion and surveillance and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, like all those things that you get
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  Speaker 1: in some of the other dystopian movies that we've talked about,
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  Speaker 1: like Minority Report or something like that. But this one
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  Speaker 1: it's like in your face, like stick it to the man.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't like those types of movies that talk
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: about that, then you probably hate this. I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you that there's a lot of it. There's a lot
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: of it layered in, and I like that piece of it.
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  Speaker 1: I did think it was like a little thick, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like that stuff when it tends to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: be like a little more not necessarily subtle, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like painted over the top the whole time,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and by the end of.
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  Speaker 1: This, I was like, we got it. Yeah. I like
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  Speaker 1: the ones that are you know, you almost don't even
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: realize it's there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're pulling it in almost a little bit subconsciously.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like a line or two or like
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  Speaker 2: something you're picking up in like the setting or the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the background.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think there's a place for movies that
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: have it sort of like this, where it's so thick
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you in your words that you're sort of choking on it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I think there's places for those movies, because
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  Speaker 1: I think there's times where you're like, Okay, we need
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to like hit you over the head with it. But
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I do enjoy the ones where it's way more subtle,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: way more subconscious, maybe also subliminal. Yeah, just what was
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that flash of That was one frame and I saw
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever the anarchy symbol is or whatever.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You can sort of read it in your self or
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you're like getting something you're like, did I see that?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmmm.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So it's a mixed bag the Running Man, you know
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's like we said at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's good, not great if you're going to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: go see it. If you have seen it, we I'd
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: be interested to see what people think. You know, We've
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: got a lot of listeners out there who, like us,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you know, have a love for the original stuff that exist.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And if you don't, that's okay. For our other listeners
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: out there who who don't appreciate the arnold world of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: action movies, I'd be interested to hear what you think
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: of this is standing on its own.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that this movie is made better
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  Speaker 2: or worse by the existence of the first one at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it even matters to how you will
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  Speaker 2: see it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you do have that perspective where you
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: have or that vantage point where you can, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: compare the two, it would be interested to see if
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: we're on par with everyone else's thoughts or if they're like, man,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: this one was glorious.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was banging. What are you talking about?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Six seven six seven? I don't even know if that
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  Speaker 1: applies this.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, it applies everything, doesn't it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this episode. That's it for movies
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  Speaker 1: and marketing until next time. Let's fade to black.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back. It's not coming back.