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Ep 171 - Shough Contract Standoff? + Chris Olave's Critical Season · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hashtag no music no intro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The episode of Saints Block Party podcast coming at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adam joint with my guy Ryan A. K. Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've had dinner and then the evening was a nice refreshing mango cut water.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't work in on that splotchester field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully they'll come.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's on the point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Need it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cut water.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hallelujah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you realize that in a week's time?
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[SPEAKER_02]: From today, mind you, the saints, the vets, and the rookies will be reporting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the work is for posters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like I, I'm pretty sure they broke report the same day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Same day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And everything for the two thousand twenty five Saint season will be put into like hyperdrive for falsie man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this episode,
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have two main topics that we'll discuss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's some little intricacies that will, you know, before we get into them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the two main topics that we're kind of discussed are speaking of that, speaking of training camp and being that it's literally all the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, the biggest storyline, that the same space right now, unlike in the other team,
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[SPEAKER_02]: is the whole ordeal regarding, essentially, the standoff that thirty other second raw picks and NFL have with their organizations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, regardless to guarantee contracts for second raw players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It has, it was on my radar a month and a half ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, and it's,
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're now seeing it with like the chargers, like they started training camp the earliest, and so we already are seeing it with tray harris of the chargers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's a holdout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a holdout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hold up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's holding up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's holding up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so to me, it's a big story because unlike any other team, the same drafted a quarterback in the second round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So distinction there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: quarterback and sick around who's in a quarterback battle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we get to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what that's our last one in topic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's our big topic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second topic that came from yesterday's news, Garrett Wilson signed a contract extension with the New York Jets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That funny money got revealed today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not making thirty two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: point five million per season that you said in the discord what it was twenty five twenty five year still great money um... but then after that contract announced yesterday but then it became this whole uh... get to it i'm trying to say we try to lead a lead a total of course about crystal a lot of it we are taught that i'm sorry to talk about propaganda that i'm not buying about crystal a lot of it
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[SPEAKER_02]: um... what's the one said i'll think you get done before camp regarding Tyler's truck killing seems injured to make sure he's straight maybe he wants a guaranteed contract it's like it's like well that well don't forget that um... every like we've got to sell with these assumptions like
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's an assumption.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, I'm sure he wants like, like, it's killing going to go to Mickey and tell Mickey, like, hey, I want him to be fully invested in this quarterback competition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I need to make sure, because this is a whole standoff that not only to like, you have to realize how this affects.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not to the degree of like the Lamar situation and the whole collusion thing, because our two players have already signed those contracts with J. and Higgins of the Sexes and Carson Swersinger of the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's thirty other players or teams who are kind of like trying to like hold the line or what have you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's going to be movement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really the question of like how soon is the movement going to come and how much time is a player going to miss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why it's important for Tyler Shuck because he's in the quarterback battle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's in here with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's it's really here because it's really important because every snap that he misses potentially in training camp is vital if he misses time at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: um just something I wanted to get off um get off my chest a little bit because I did I did go I did very briefly get um into it with the fantasy football kindness and day this past weekend that flower's people awful awful awful
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[SPEAKER_02]: comes out news comes out quince on junk and speak in a second on picks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, get to rest it for domestic violence incident against partner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Girlfriend ex girlfriend would have you and.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in those name drew something true something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Makes makes a tweet about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the tweet was very obvious of like what the tweet was was in reference to us like like we've been in this we've been in the football game like I just pull up one of my favorite deep cut wolf tweets about Riley Cooper from two thousand thirteen nigga like this is how long we been in the football game
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like you not go get some you not go sneak something football is to a by me and not think I know what it meant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was clearly a regards to how does any was it was like I'm getting a lot of questions regarding quiz on juggins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think the questions are about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think the questions are?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it about the welfare or the person that got hurt during the incident?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's the fucking point I was making with my tweet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All I said, all I said was, and this is what I, this is what I meant, when I said if I ever went back in water doctorate, I would talk about like how fandom is being, how being fandom is, and essence being being like fandom, sports fandom,
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[SPEAKER_02]: like fantasy football, all that it's being in an abusive relationship and it's also like being in a cult because where did we as a society?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where did we as a society?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone a person, a woman, like, and it's like the talk back was like, well, we don't know what really happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was a ledge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were the responses I got right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was alleged.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, the his third point was like it's my it's my like I'm a fantasy football reporter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's my job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You did not get my help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You deducted my cover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remihan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remihan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remihan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remihan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The night I got down my couch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's about being responsible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's what your job is, then you have to be responsible about how you're reporting it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And shout out to my dude Jake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jake was like, Jake texted me yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, damn, damn, I don't think you know, scared him straight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I've been watching this tweet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't repeat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just started reporting this really more respectfully.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the point I'm making is that when you're a point in a situation like this, where do we get as a society where the person that got hurt in this situation doesn't matter and also players aren't even viewed as players anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're viewed as simply what can you do for me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you helping my wallet?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And once you're like fantasy team, well thanks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fantasy team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it firsthand, bro, with the whole site where taste, how did the fertation, you know, attempted wooing of this all about, we saw it firsthand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People's like, twenty-two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty-two, thirty-four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how many victims.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you win?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need a quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you win?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you throw?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's like you say it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It turns like people in the cultists, social pets, it's like we just throw all reasoning, all rationality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do they have humanity go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that whole interaction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I got, I had people coming my mentions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone had either fantasy in their username or ff, ff, all in there, ff, all in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She will try to, she don't want you bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when are you talking about me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about me.
10:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe because it's been a decade and I've seen what, like, true abuse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: True abuse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually do with victims.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, have you, have you dealt with the actual victim?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, well, that was, that was not you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, oh, I, I, I, I, I volunteer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, oh, do you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's sold and you're doing a really shitty, shitty job of represented them, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me, let me stop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just goes into like the whole bigger conversation of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He made it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He made it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He made it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, where's he gone?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Turn on the news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got an alligator, alcatraz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Marvel universe is my limited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what is going on, man?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, little spoiler alert.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, as a family, we wouldn't watch Superman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the men, me and my daughter went and watched it on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In surprising, like my daughter, like loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, I really, she, like, really loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, yeah, she was like, she was like, I want to go, I want to go see it again and like, let's take Jay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, all right, so we went, we ran it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: on Saturday and we took her in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like, I liked it, but you know, I like going to the movies to like escape reality and like so much of that movie was very like it really hit close to home and the thing that such is like, man, they don't fuck me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They know Superman flying around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's no, I mean, there's no, I mean, that's, there's no, there's no true spoilers, but that, that was it, no spoilers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What else?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't hit this, we didn't hit on this on the last episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my fault.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went, I meant to bring this up and I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cam Jordan video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: actually you know I really you know I rarely delete tweets like I rarely rarely rarely ever delete tweets but uh they're teasing the potential like alternate jerseys today in the cam Jordan video and so on was like oh cam getting what he want like he's looking at the baguette he would want it already to know I felt bad bro I did the lead of bro
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, let me just shit brown though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you pick it on my social media on a move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's Bobby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, but I forgot what he, I forgot what he was capable for or what, what show that was my final straw bras.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but like I don't know, it might not, it might not be him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could have been someone else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, I just wanted to just delete it that bra.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I rarely ever delete tweets, but I deleted that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I meant like the workout cam Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, video.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to talk about that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what is there to say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was just like, man, who put that up?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I hope you didn't put that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you got to go back, like, he had to come out and like explain the video after the fact like, you don't know what to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was my free workout before the workout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I ever see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I didn't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going full speed yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just getting warmed up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just how you run it out of the collar mirror.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all if you accidentally bust too soon, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you was throwing it back like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I told you not to do that move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't have to move my weakness, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Try that, that's right, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't get me back out, girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be all right, come on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then like you you see the big the big creep workout video big creep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you saw it, but I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Creep was moving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're moving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like he was doing a lot of coverage practice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know why I don't need no big creep in coverage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brandon, you got that word from Brandon, you got that word from Brandon, you got it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm gonna do you do you do you do a couple of two, but I'll be back in a couple of times, rock out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a quick aside, just because I feel like I just can't ignore it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to be careful how I say this and I'm trying not to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and not be very hyperblish when I say this, I don't watch calls for, I'm not a cause football, watcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watch players and cause football for like NFL prospect purposes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, it is insane how crazy good this upcoming
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[SPEAKER_02]: quarterback class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next year might be brah.
16:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know I know it was like a talking point for a lot of people who were like anti trading again trading up for cam board.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were just like just going for the class next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it'd be fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be the most sync shit ever, like we expected them to pick in the top five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they could go out and have like a season where they, they pick like, thirteen, fourteen, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's quarter back class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, never know man, never know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never know, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that this class brought up with cheese.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's deep and special, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it could be up there with the class man before his last year, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw six go in a one first couple of, you know, well, picks or whatever, it could be crazy like that, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could really be crazy and just done.
17:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's early, you know, these guys got to play like a season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they see how these things shake out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some might come, some might go back to school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some might have try a season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some might get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to let it play out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But just like now looking at snapshot of the metallic and the potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Treating man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell me Jeff Ireland and all of them guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They sitting at the peak and at the tape.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, they look then I keep seeing since thirty first thirty second in the power rankings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just they just power rankings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the latest time since it was like, raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That low in power.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's consistent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's consistent too, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's consistent, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, every like, YouTube, they're popular.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just go check this to see if I have to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like three to Browns of the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always three to Brown Saints.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh... Browns got a defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a nasty division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me, yeah, nasty division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I clean into them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very distant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's just it's gonna be fascinating like I was there in our disco or I was like man I might actually have to watch a lot more cars football this like a lot more than I what we want you got with LSU versus Clemson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another versus a little big week one gets versus Ohio State I think oh
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's arch versus maybe our future quarterback maybe versus our future safety.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows Ryan?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we pick a knife, okay, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I did, okay, I guess even then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a dog.
20:00
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't have no opinions about Caleb Downs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They would do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My opinion about Caleb Downs is like if they're picking top four and the pickest Caleb Downs, I will personally fly in their airline to burn that machine down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The airline deep pulling up to come outside, Mickey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Murdered is down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Final quarterback.
20:27
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, before I get into luck, I mean, topic.
20:30
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20:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, right now, right now.
20:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Giovanni Martinez has heard, uh, Schmart Stewart may not even sound what since he, he's, he's been training with A and M. If he doesn't sign does since he get their firm from pickback.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not.
20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He basically, he can't go back to school.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: He essentially would just have to sit out this season and he would be eligible to be in the draft next year.
21:06
[SPEAKER_02]: That is that situation.
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: As a whole, it's one of the most fascinating situations in the NFL I'm currently watching.
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole Shamar Stewart situation.
21:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not budging and I don't end to fear like it in he I don't he shouldn't like he's doing nothing.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He should not but at all at all He's not asking for something like unreasonable or even like extra.
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not asking for like more than what usually he's asking for like age is giving what?
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Normal people would get it this flat.
21:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me what the last verse from pick last year got in their contract in their terminal language.
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That's literally it.
21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: If the language, if you can just make the language read what the last verse from pick got in this contract, I will sign it.
22:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've probably, like, I've seen NFL low enough to with these things or stories in July and then if we're gotten about, like, come August of September, it's just like, okay, think it's signed and we move on.
22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Big Bailey say we're getting on a handle these contracts all-scarter does not deserve to be the highest pay point of back tired of guys getting big deals just because they do for a contract
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, sauce sauce is overrated to me, but he had two all first team all pros.
22:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It's first two seasons.
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he getting that crazy.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Top of the mugged buddy, brother.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
22:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, he had a down your last year.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but like you getting top of the mugged buddy, but he raised the rig for corner base to ease.
22:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I haven't looked at the coolest numbers, but he's no even in that thirty and thirty movie in a year area anywhere, corners were low for a while, man.
22:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It's still the game, the game is the game.
23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's talk about one first of our big topics.
23:10
[SPEAKER_02]: The
23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't, I don't want to be careful.
23:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I talk about it because I don't know how big of a cloud it is because, well, I feel like with the, I don't say I feel.
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: With the sense, it's definitely a bigger cloud as opposed to other teams because of the nature of the position, because it's a quarterback who potentially may miss time.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're listening to this for the first time, if you're kind of up to, so what we're talking about,
23:43
[SPEAKER_02]: why there's and I don't want to and I want to be clear with this.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a Tyler shock thing.
23:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So there was these things on mostly kind of put on Facebook and then the the weird footer accounts that were like miss miss kind of representing how it was like time to suck what they break it down for you.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not asking for anything different
24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: than what the Texans gave the contract to Dayton Higgins when they signed him for his four-year contract, then what the Browns gave to Carson Swesinger when they signed him for his four-year contract.
24:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The contract is four-years guaranteed.
24:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Money is guaranteed for all four-years.
24:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to live in your dollar guarantee.
24:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Give it a take.
24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler shook, and I was told, I was told, I was texted this during the car emergency retirement podcasts when I was in love.
24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And every other player drafted in the second round, they saw that those, their counterparts got those contracts.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So of course, they, in their agent, they want the same thing.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: They want the same, particularly the agent.
25:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because they just don't tell me why.
25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, we don't, we don't, we can, we can try to get you.
25:09
[SPEAKER_02]: They just have us to get the maximum money.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Max, get your team money.
25:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Brookies are already slotted with the total amount of money they can get.
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no negotiating to have been on the total amount of a contract.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's already slotted, send a books that you can do about it.
25:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can negotiate everything else, guarantee money, injury protections, offset guarantees, all that stuff.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the stuff that they fight over.
25:38
[SPEAKER_01]: that they have left the fight over with working contracts.
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the old days before they would get away with scaleware.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you know, why, why, why was it going there?
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't no slack.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we see working holdouts that go into the season.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, my fourth year.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Every year, every year was always a couple quarterbacks that would hold up.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a couple of players.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So now, you know, we're back kind of back to that point because even though the total money is slotted, it still some of these things to kind of negotiate with.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, you got dirty players that are in kind of a seat is a standoff.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because the league teams are like,
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to give no more guaranteed money than I have to.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And players are like, I want as much guaranteed money as I can get.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's crazy.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: The crazy thing is not.
26:34
[SPEAKER_02]: the league is the owner is so fucking cheap because it's not even like someone came in our Twitter, not Twitter, our YouTube comments saying like Tyler shook like it's not the answer he's not gonna be good so he shouldn't even get the contract.
26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what the fuck are you even talking about?
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would he think like that though?
26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would Tyler shook operate with that mindset?
26:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm not good so I'm not even about the fight with him and you kind of want to
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just gonna get you know, you know what you know what boss man low ball mean buddy Oh I'm worth this amount how about you deduct a couple of the duct whatever my unit salary is take a couple of hundred off that.
27:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't need that
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Who just that?
27:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody.
27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's what it gets back to my whole point.
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think as I've gotten a lot older, it's definitely helped with this.
27:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll speak to this, especially when we talk to our clients a lot of that.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not our fucking money.
27:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not our money.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Not our money.
27:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go Benz's money.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, I'd rather her pay it to football players, like I at least get ones who are like good morally, rather than maybe a Catholic church, maybe I don't know, molesting people.
28:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm not breaking news.
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That says, did I say something incorrect?
28:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, just just saying.
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like, what do we do?
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so getting to why it's super important specifically for Tyler's shock.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He was the only quarterback drafted in the second round.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He is an quarterback battle.
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the few quarterbacks going into training camp, who's going to be an quarterback battle.
28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: If this isn't resolved, so they report on the twenty second, which is next Tuesday,
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll probably do like their conditioning task, but whatever, so then probably like the actual training camp will probably start either probably Wednesday or Thursday or Thursday.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Open the fans of the game.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit.
28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So then that's next Wednesday.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when the clock starts, in terms of like snaps, in terms of like install.
29:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why like, like any other position, like missing time and training camp is important period, like no matter the position.
29:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But him missing important on this team, interests in a quarterback battle is huge.
29:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where the standoff, when I put this in the title, the standoff is does he, as shucking his agent, do they concede and say, all right, I'm okay with not getting the guaranteed money and I just want to go in
29:50
[SPEAKER_02]: may get get as much as I can, maybe not all being guaranteed and just go in and battle it out so I can be probably the week one try to be week one starter because Mickey wants me to be one we can start maybe a head coach will be with one starter.
30:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But my long or if I'm going to just be like, you know, I really want.
30:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Jayden Higgins got this call this question.
30:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You got this.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a quarterback.
30:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I deserve this.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he argues the latter out, he has every right to.
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't want this narrative to start.
30:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, why are you?
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the shit that I can't stand, bro.
30:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't stand that.
30:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Try as me crazy.
30:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Try as me crazy.
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But it is crazy because like even like pro football, it's all broke down like the percentage of guaranteed money like by the slats.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you would already get like seventy seven point three percent guarantee in a normal slat.
30:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So like they did a little bit of, it's a little bit like a battle over like a quarter million dollars to earn a fifty thousand dollars.
30:52
[SPEAKER_02]: of guaranteed money.
30:53
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was about.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So like you, and get from the science perspective, like you will in, if you want this guy to have like fully ready to go, are you really willing to blow that over, you know, a quarter man, a guaranteed money, not any money you won't get, but just in guaranteed money.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And for the flip side, the shock side, do you really, are you got a chance to start the season, change your life?
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: change your life if you can start this season and look good.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you really going to haggle over like about a quarter million in guarantee when you potentially talking about sixty seventy million dollars a year?
31:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if everything goes right, you know, if you're able to show that you're a starter, you're a good player and blah, blah, blah.
31:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you've got to be looking at it long term.
31:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to be thinking like big picture.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the big picture here?
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, my, my kind of point to that is like how many injuries that Tyler should have had in his career though?
31:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another thing.
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I just say, like, I, you could, you could go back and forth, brother, like, I get a good deal.
31:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't admit, two hundred fifty thousand, two hundred fifty thousand dollars is two hundred fifty thousand dollars.
31:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And guaranteed is guaranteed.
32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I could go my show.
32:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I could go my show to the training camp.
32:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And never play a single, and again, we're not, we're not putting this out there.
32:09
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to, we just do it.
32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't like the reality of situation.
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And never play a single snap of football ever again.
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fair, fascinating, fascinating.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: How's it going to play out, man?
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because it's similar to the charges when you had jubries, like the twenty eight, two thousand three season, he had an up and down year.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you got benched.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: came back up and down.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then all the dribblers charges.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, charge is what he drafted.
32:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He lied, man, and it took the whole thing for the river's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
32:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Drew came in locked in.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not giving this job up in it.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a pro bowl season.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like having it.
33:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
33:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to like a living five or something like that.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what's the playoffs?
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let it go.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying, so that's the kind of spot like grappling right now.
33:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of where he's like, he's the the second right and he's not sitting around pick, but he's the guy that was drafted early.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You know that the kind of just trying to move on they want to go to the new first thing, but he has a chance to come in and just take it especially if Chuck holds out if he gives up to three maybe a week of training camp to Ramler.
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's he's not starting.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives up like a week.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not starting week one, like Chuck is done as far as like a week one started.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Wayne said, bottom line, do you think this gets resolved before Mickey and Chuck have to make a decision?
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you, but you know, I'm sure you, man.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, thanks for the five dollars to be chat.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's such a, it's such a huge thing.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a huge thing.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I want to pull up our, uh,
34:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because this has been on my mind for a while.
34:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And just like this story has been on my mind, just like the whole, the Saints win the mandatory mini-campus approach in.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And if Derek Car was going to show up or not.
34:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just how that was on my mind.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And just perfectly, I was like, and this thing goes show up.
34:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And as they got closer, it's like, he's showing up.
34:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's showing up.
34:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's showing up.
34:39
[SPEAKER_02]: This is kind of like the same thing that's on the month.
34:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So Matthew Paris last month about I guess I don't know who asked in this, but my guess was be Matt, maybe ask.
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Chuck about this on the on the on-saw contract late last month.
34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole second round, we're just seeing kind of where things lie.
35:03
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not there's not like a demand or obviously
35:08
[SPEAKER_02]: you're super optimistic.
35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just part of it, this whole process.
35:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we'll see.
35:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, it seems like for the majority of the party, those dirty players, I mean, quench on Juckins fucked himself over.
35:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But those twenty nine players now, kind of have like this solidarity, right?
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it seems like it, like they do, right?
35:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, the lead does.
35:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to leave the right.
35:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, outside of the Texans and the Browns, right?
35:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But the rest of the teams will do.
35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just, it is to me it's extremely, extremely fascinating.
35:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And at some point, it's how much, how much is Tyler Shark willing to stand on business about this?
36:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really what the worst really was down to.
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you'd really stand on business about it for until he gets a guaranteed contract.
36:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he misses the legit training camp time, like you said, like a week, week and a half, whatever, that's, that's, that's, he has every right to.
36:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And but I, a hundred percent.
36:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just, I just know the spin I know the narrative of how it's going to appear and look in social media because I, I've been, we've been in this game.
36:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We know how it looks.
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's being selfish.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he doesn't care about the team.
36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if he was wanted to be a real quarterback of the Saints, he would just sign the contract and be out there.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He's grateful.
36:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He should be grateful.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Such a big, how about that?
36:46
[SPEAKER_02]: He grateful you got drafted at a certain realm, and that's the opportunity.
36:52
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
36:53
[SPEAKER_02]: We know we know what the tweets looked like, but we can hear them.
36:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We can, we don't, we don't, we don't write them before, bro.
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But to Wayne's point, I think it gets resolved.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to go up, literally, to the eleventh hour, to the, I think he's going to be sitting in the car outside the, say she had quarters without a contract waiting, looking at his phone with his agent to give the thumbs up a thumbs down.
37:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's going to go up until the last minute.
37:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, okay, you had,
37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: What's his name?
37:29
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the lineback of names?
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your neighbor?
37:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
37:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your neighbor?
37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:38
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:39
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:40
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:43
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his neighbor?
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: What's his neighbor?
37:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He's on side right now.
37:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He's next up.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's the next thing like he's the next player is like look guy right above me got a guaranteed contract.
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a guaranteed contract.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So all eyes on him.
37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen here after him could shine jackets.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get into a guaranteed contract.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not done.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be on the NFL.
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, who knows what happens, but he's not going to go together.
38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of think that Quincy I took this thing just kind of ruined it for everybody.
38:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it just, I think it broke, it broke the domino effect.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: The domino right, Nick, I think he might get it.
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe not.
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a safety who knows.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But after that, it's up in the air.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you got like four or five post slides and take it to township.
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, township is a quarter back to the quarter.
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a little different day.
38:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little different.
38:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But just my gut feeling is it gets resolved.
38:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like I before.
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack Hunter said, thirty out of thirty two second round rounds are unsigned.
38:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Not an issue.
38:51
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think you're missing the point like the issue was that did you just listen to everything you just talked about or did you just log in?
38:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we just say that, yes.
39:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Could be a maker, like, would you just explain why it could be an issue?
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like today on July, what, fifteenth, where no players are in camp, it's not an issue.
39:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's literally a nine story until it becomes a story.
39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What we're talking about, it has very potential to be a very big story.
39:22
[SPEAKER_02]: If he holds out into camp right now, not an issue is wait and see.
39:28
[SPEAKER_02]: wait and see, but I mean, they're lucky that they're training camps and starting next week.
39:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, like, train for right now, it's an issue for the, it's an issue for the charges.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an issue for the charges.
39:39
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39:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry to put a check.
39:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right here.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's needed, bro.
39:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right here.
39:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right here.
39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right here.
40:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right here.
40:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, bro.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Louie's down.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It says Cleveland training camp starts on Friday.
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was like, you're training camp, so I'm gonna start picking up.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
40:25
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about that bomb being the third best off ball?
40:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm back here in the middle of the news.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, please.
40:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
40:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We could just set back, like we left about it.
40:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But we could just step back and really take a part of like, that's wild.
40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's wild.
40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, for most of them, you're like, he was drafted under Charlotte P. Um, but that's he was, but even then he was, he was a DC.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he, that is coached.
41:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, practice and it's purest for him, bro.
41:08
[SPEAKER_02]: That are all true.
41:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Who the league think is like one of the top three linebackers in the league.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right.
41:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Only two linebackers that the execs have above him.
41:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Brett Warner and Rhoquan Smith.
41:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that bomb, bro?
41:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you sitting here by the fucking bomb?
41:32
[SPEAKER_02]: We're in a pay of people, aren't it?
41:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Eight, nine, eight of you.
41:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that is cool.
41:42
[SPEAKER_02]: She felt practice and it's fine.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's fine.
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable.
41:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I know that list came out.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Arlin.
41:52
[SPEAKER_02]: A little cigar in his office.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a desk reset.
41:56
[SPEAKER_02]: See this?
41:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I stand by my grave.
42:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Stand by.
42:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I stand by by great insane wolf.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I read that I just I was just like it's the shit that had me hollering bro.
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It says like the year before.
42:17
[SPEAKER_02]: No ranking.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: No wreck.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He was he was on special teams for the same.
42:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why.
42:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blue.
42:34
[SPEAKER_02]: a team that's like, ancient for young talented players.
42:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is right there.
42:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is what I was told.
42:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to be, I want to give them a, I guess a little grace to, to some degree.
42:50
[SPEAKER_02]: For them to have been able to realize this about Zack Barton is that they would have had it been able to put him at middle.
43:05
[SPEAKER_02]: which also would have meant that at some point, they would have to move them from tomorrow early and not give it him that extension.
43:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And at some point, they would have had to see some seen something in Zackbahn that would have let them know that he had the ability to play metal, right?
43:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, it goes to your point of self-scouting
43:33
[SPEAKER_02]: and coaching, because Vick Fangeo and so on, not so enough on film and said, oh, oh, I could do something with this could be something with that.
43:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And keep in mind, like obviously we know that there wasn't a lot of snacks that they obviously had a lot to work with because of right what the Saints had, Jack Bond doing on special teams.
43:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So if Vick Fangeo saw
44:00
[SPEAKER_02]: had a vision, always go back to it, go, always go back to that.
44:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Had a vision in just very limited snaps of scenes at Bono, he was on defense.
44:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It all just goes back to the whole premise of coaching and coaching Mel practice at its absolute fucking
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, in team building, in team building.
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like, about a slight, but the Mario, because the Mario Davis has been outstanding, still one of the best, even last year, even coming off last year where you finally started to see, you know, bumps in the road, as far as his performance, like still on net when you look relative to like other teams, still one of the better live-action of the Mario Davis.
44:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you learn a little, also look at where your team is at the moment.
44:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, there it is.
44:53
[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta get, you gotta get younger, you gotta get your cat under control.
44:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, that's, that's why you draft players.
45:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the whole point.
45:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's talent acquisition and development.
45:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's what you're supposed to be doing.
45:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you don't put your role, you don't put role blocks in front of players, where you can't even be valuable.
45:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I did do that.
45:17
[SPEAKER_01]: like you got a lot of money to play yeah if I started to play some last year at the industry and they put a map as much of a thing they put a man Mike you know so uh... raise on the was that he wanted to get some votes okay uh...
45:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be nice if Pete Warner had a bounce back season.
45:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete is what he is.
46:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We have another version of Pete, go, Pete, Brian, just play the new Pete.
46:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Who was the age age decline?
46:08
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a couple of years ago.
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, just, you know, I think he's still in a league if I'm not mistaken.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He was recently, I know he'll hit the bills, bills, yeah, for a little while.
46:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's like that type.
46:19
[SPEAKER_02]: He's probably going to be in a league probably ten, eleven years in a league, have a good career.
46:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Just nice, you know, solid lineback.
46:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
46:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of weird.
46:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of weird.
46:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they set up a dance workshop, which Marm wore plays that Bonna wins an Oscar for the scene of him crying in his car in the rain.
46:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just bitches, you know what?
46:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It is baseball.
46:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're tired.
46:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark, Mark, producers said that AJ Clash retired.
47:01
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
47:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Final thing we wanted to hit before we wrap up.
47:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a thirty-six concurrent viewers on right now.
47:07
[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate y'all.
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, true, true sick-o hours right now.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: True sick-o hours right now.
47:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about Crystal Lobby again.
47:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Gert Wilson.
47:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Got contract attention yesterday from the Jets.
47:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, true numbers came out.
47:35
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to make theory too.
47:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I've said this earlier.
47:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to make third to point five million a year.
47:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be closer.
47:40
[SPEAKER_02]: As you said in our discord, we close to like, twenty five million a year.
47:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And because they were drafted in the same draft, there became like a lot of talks about like how that affects Crystal Lava.
47:52
[SPEAKER_02]: His contract extension is future with the Saints.
47:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be honest with you.
47:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see a lot of the discourse on Twitter.
48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe because most of the people that were saying the discourse from maybe I've already been blocked, don't know.
48:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say something I found, I found interesting is I asked my friend.
48:17
[SPEAKER_02]: The way I posed it was I wondered how the Garrett Wilson contract would maybe influence the crystal lobby contract.
48:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would still
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: and what I found interesting.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, on one hand, when I first heard that I was like, that's interesting, but on the other hand, I was like, it's not that interesting because they've had two completely different careers in some regards, right?
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Garrett Wilson has played every single snap since he's been drafted.
48:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Chris Alave, obviously, has not because of injuries, the concussions were documented.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: but it's still what's really funny is even though that's the case, their numbers, especially because they're in their quarterback situations, are that far different?
49:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, I don't know.
49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: If a lot of it played his normal reps this past season, it would have equal to, or maybe more, at least yards and catches ends, Garrett Wilson.
49:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Touchdowns, Garrett Wilson got a beat on touchdowns.
49:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they're very, very productive while it's simple and clear.
49:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very simple and very simple.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, Crystal Love is under contract to more years, right?
49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, there's no, it's, this season is like, I don't think there's any negotiations going on.
49:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows, like, this season is critical to his NFL career.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: School of contract.
49:52
[SPEAKER_01]: My NFL career.
49:54
[SPEAKER_01]: This season is critical and the Saints know that too.
49:56
[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints want to know is this the young guy we want to build around is this one of the young players, potentially he should be
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is that fear with questions, it's kind of like, you know what I'm saying?
50:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you got it to see, it's something.
50:10
[SPEAKER_02]: The question's, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like like, like, like, like
50:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really want to talk about that.
50:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
50:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one of those things.
50:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But it just kind of is what it is, man.
50:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a dialogue about it.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I saw people saying, like, oh, it was a bad pick.
50:39
[SPEAKER_01]: We just need to move on.
50:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what?
50:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you talking about?
50:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Make that make sense to be.
50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You just need to move on.
50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to trade them?
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a different discussion.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the discussion that I think maybe you have at some point, but there's no rush to do that.
51:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, you got him on the contract for two years.
51:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to see where he's at this year.
51:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it would make no sense to trade it right now when one is
51:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, his value is probably that his lowest point right now.
51:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
51:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So like why I even entertained that you want to see, I want to at least let him build up his value and you want to know what what he can do potentially.
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He can potentially have a good help a year, you know, with no questions and unlike that, you know, and then what?
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, God, I'm on the contract for the next year for fifteen million dollars on the fifth year, you know, fifth year, fifth year option.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Then maybe, do you talk about the contract then or do you wait?
51:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know, you can kind of figure it out.
51:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you go and draft another player, you know, why was you even a draft to give yourself some, you know, some leverage or some wiggle room in contract and good.
51:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got all this time to like play all this stuff out.
52:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't get the dialogue about like, ah, like, is what it is.
52:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Just do what they weren't doing.
52:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all talking about that.
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you all watching?
52:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want to know.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But we watch from the same game.
52:11
[SPEAKER_02]: can't be can't be like if you want to have the argument potentially like maybe he's not like what's deemed in the true definition like why I was one we can have that we could that conversation be had
52:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I do mind Harman put out, I think it article today, the, it goes like top fifteen right receivers in the end of like it was top fifteen under twenty five, twenty five, twenty five and up to you.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Chris, a lot of his number nine on the list, woof.
52:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Number nine.
52:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And Matt Harmon is, if there's one person's opinion, I want to listen to when they were, when it's regarding our receivers.
53:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about the moment.
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about the moment.
53:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about the moment.
53:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's all he does.
53:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He does it.
53:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not saying he's the offensive line expert.
53:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a quarterback expert.
53:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He studies wide receivers.
53:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Period.
53:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Period.
53:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna pull up.
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt's list.
53:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right.
53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know it was, um, this is terrible podcasting.
53:29
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my favorite thing to say.
53:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, when I do it for the audio listeners.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So number one, Jamar Chase.
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Number two, who gonna cool it?
53:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Number three, uh, I'm a Ross Saint Brown.
53:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Number four,
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Number five, which I potentially, I would probably disagree with, but Matt Harman's always been higher on him than I have been as Drake London.
53:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Number six, Latin McCunkey.
53:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Number seven, Brian Thomas Jr.
54:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Number eight, Garrett Wilson.
54:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Number nine, Crystal Lobby.
54:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Number, I wanna give you, I'm gonna give the, it's not fifteen, it was in twenty five.
54:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fifteen.
54:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna give the rest of them.
54:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Ten Josh Downs, eleven Jackson Smith, the Jigba, twelve-ish, she rice, just don't put him in a car, thirteen, Margaret Harrison, Junior, fourteen, Dave Flowers, fifteen, George Pickett.
54:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty five is under.
54:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty five is under.
54:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty five is under.
54:39
[SPEAKER_02]: The Saints have a good young, wide receiver.
54:42
[SPEAKER_02]: that you just gotta hope you get over this concussion issue.
54:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And people, and I would say, eighty-five percent of people on things where they can't wait to get rid of them.
54:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't get that.
54:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand it.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand it.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.
55:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I get the worry about the gut about the injury.
55:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I get that.
55:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What the hell is that?
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: That was valid.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But that...
55:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That was going, but this like kind of narrative was going on before, like before this past year.
55:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know.
55:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
55:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was.
55:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But then it, because it becomes a thing of like, again, what we talked about.
55:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's not my money.
55:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
55:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
55:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So then the, then the, then the, then the discussion becomes like what, what is, like the value, like what's Chris O'Laby worth, like the contract Boba, Boba,
55:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, then my question would be, who else would the things have to pay?
55:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say he gets through this year, puts up a good to great season, good or decent to good to great season, and then heading into next year after a good to great season.
56:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Who do the things have to pay when they're gonna be flushed with cap space?
56:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You know why the flush we can't go to the flush we can't fix?
56:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause they don't draft fucking well.
56:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
56:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have really bad in the paper.
56:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't have young players to pay.
56:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's bad.
56:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they got, I think a fast.
56:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, they don't have.
56:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They got the Kenjrey Miller.
56:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, look.
56:23
[SPEAKER_02]: The Trevor Pennywood.
56:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, they don't have him to put on.
56:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time the train broke out.
56:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but then, but then people like, well, you could go and, you know, get freezes.
56:38
[SPEAKER_02]: We, you see how that goes every year.
56:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Free agents.
56:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we go get a choice.
56:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we go get, we go get Marcus May.
56:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
56:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit.
56:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He's at, oh, down.
56:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, in freezes, you are also competing with other teams.
56:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Other teams that, you know, are like better than you?
57:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we saw what the cults.
57:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Traverse work.
57:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, what, what are we doing here?
57:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the, the, the narrative should be like, man, I hope Chris will not be abolishing.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's all you have to see.
57:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the chance for what it may, whatever you get paid, you get paid, we'll get to that when we get to that.
57:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just see, and hope he bows out this year.
57:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all you can do.
57:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you can do.
57:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, if he gets injured or whatever, then you've got to circle back and start asking questions, you've got to, you know, grab some more.
57:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Any drafts from our previous relatives, like, whether he has a position or not, like, look, Rashida, he doesn't free agent next year.
57:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
57:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get paid by somebody.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That speed, you can't teach, like, nope.
57:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like field tilting speed.
57:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get a cartridge.
57:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to shock people, I think.
57:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I think people are going to shock.
58:01
[SPEAKER_02]: How much money?
58:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially if it's like a healthy season.
58:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, man, especially with, like, how the cap keeps going up with what he can do.
58:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he might get a contract.
58:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That might start with a two in front of it like his name.
58:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I do too.
58:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I do too.
58:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I do too.
58:27
[SPEAKER_02]: But just because like just what he does, like it truly changes like it can change a game, bro.
58:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's indeed, man.
58:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're the bills, the chiefs, the ravens.
58:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, Texans, Green Bay, well, Green Bay don't spend money for that.
58:48
[SPEAKER_02]: They got plenty of wire super that.
58:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, like, you just named a team for like, every team wants somebody that could, that could tilt the field like it.
59:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Every, every team wants that.
59:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So people are going to be surprised.
59:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll play today.
59:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So he got all that.
59:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Watch, watch, see.
59:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, all the Saints being in a, I don't know, but like if you get rid of a lot of it, then it's like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like we're branded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we same said draft it with Michael time it's a sixteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the year they had like brand of cooks had over thousand yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time it's in over thousand yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will it's neat and like you need like almost thousand yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they traded brand of cooks that next all season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, okay, you got Michael time is they went out and paid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh dead again take in the broding take in Yeah, they brought in take in sitting like okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He could fill in that brand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It cooks for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Break up breeze arm was started to diminish a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they changed the way the offense was kind of structured a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you kind of okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can understand him doing it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't got you got no horses in the stable like that right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also like here's another point
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[SPEAKER_02]: you are trying to evaluate young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fellow, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can make sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they make sense to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People don't fucking idiot bro.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if even if you say like, man, we just treat a lot of it because we just need to tank and get a high pick.
1:00:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they run a risk of completely
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[SPEAKER_01]: running your team to the point where, whether you do draft, you can't even evaluate them.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_02]: They're looking like Bryce Young in twenty twenty three.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like, I don't even know what I'm looking at because the team just so transparent.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Baron, right?
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And not look at what the pets do at age draft.
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And why was he was in the first round two years of the role trying to replenish what they gave away like DJ Moore and all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_02]: He said that because the next nigga.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Garrett Nussmire, Jew Aller, Arch Manning, Cade, whoever it is.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Sellers, you don't think that, uh, Wrathler, Chuck, you don't think that they might need an alive aid of throw tools on the Seas healthy.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, someone who could get open against man and press, man, press, zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zone, could light up a ZX, bunch of sets.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, man.
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Dante said you want to trust this front office to drive the skill player in the draft.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_02]: They haven't dropped the one you've brought.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_02]: They had nine picks.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Dante, this season in, they will attract me some tips back on that verb.
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a tipten baby.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a tipten.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been often doing about to be in the snack time, bitch, bro.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to be off goddamn lead.
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I was going to play out.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of animals stay in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the Saints really want.
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no intentions of training him.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_02]: They really want him to, you know, they have everything.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_02]: They have, they don't land on training him.
1:02:27
[SPEAKER_02]: That very intention on extent, you want to extend him is the plan.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Can that plan change?
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, you know, can a team come in and truly be like, she it.
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We, we love this idea.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me, Chris, a lot of it so much like,
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's this potentially, I don't, I couldn't see an happen, and I'm just throwing this out there like an example, you know, just for people to have like a mindset, but like, here's, we think we're gonna be so good.
1:02:56
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna be a playoff team and be picking like, twenty nine, thirty, thirty, two, and we think that Chris Alabe is that good that he's gonna push, like, could a team do that?
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably not, but like, if a team were to do that, I think as, like, that's what, as a, as a franchise, you're like, okay,
1:03:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That you entertain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe if there's a team who's offering you like a second round pick and you think that's it may be like a high second round pick kind of around like what you got like that Tyler struck rain, like that forties and higher, especially in like next year's draft, you like
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's even in Tyson a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything after that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you can get some good.
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A to the dawn.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for bringing this up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to talk about this.
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going a little over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it is a trade?
1:04:00
[SPEAKER_02]: He's after they're a trade floor for John Jennings on the table.
1:04:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just talk about the whole John Jennings thing in general.
1:04:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He comes out this week says, pretty much let's say that tells the Niners either.
1:04:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I need a contract extension.
1:04:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to be paid more.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_02]: or you can get me out of here.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been on, I've been at Jay's neck since Clint because Jay's a nine year span.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've seen a lot of John Jennings in this house.
1:04:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been a fan of his, especially when Clubeyac became OC, we did an episode where I wanted him to be.
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to Clint to bring John, Jenny's to the Saints.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying he's Michael Thomas, but he has a lot of M.T.M.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_02]: elements to his game.
1:04:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He is, we talk about the Saints, the Saints have been needing one in a chain move or someone to get like, he is that.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He is that, a hundred and ten percent.
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think I looked it up like this week.
1:05:01
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, what, twenty eight, twenty eight.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's over.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One should the same straight for John Jennings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And two, if they should, what would you be willing to give up and what contract in terms of how much would you be willing to pay for John?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll see get an engineer seven and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like seven and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here's what he said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he is a hundred percent a certified fucking dog.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is what the Saints need identity wise in the white received.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I give up a fourth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm right.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_02]: What you.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like what I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I pay a fifteen million.
1:05:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, see, you know what I think like fourteen thirteen to fourteen.
1:05:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I double way to get now.
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I double way to get now, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do that, bro.
1:05:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think that I think he'd be good at this.
1:06:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good blocker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saints really need that.
1:06:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Good blocker.
1:06:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Good blocker.
1:06:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He could line up at X and be like, that guy at that spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would love to.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to watch in his brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like give him like a three year, you know, three year, forty five million, you know, thirty guaranteed, twenty guaranteed or something like that.
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He was gonna pick up a cup, you know what I'm saying?
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and Joanne is right now is a more a sitting player than a cup of cup of cup is right now anyway.
1:06:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I just couldn't give up anything more than a fourth.
1:06:33
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the winner's team might be drafted next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that third.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, sir.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, sir.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, sir.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There might be like
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[SPEAKER_02]: the sixty now I would offer than I would call it John Lynch right now in order to offer more forth and I would I would offer a con I would give a I would do it I would do it because they would it would it would it would give it would be a huge check and I think you would give complete a little more completion to the walls yeah no question no question about it no question about it
1:07:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll just, you know, it'll just kind of everything.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll just kind of fall into place a little bit, you know?
1:07:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I do it in plus, like the cap situation for the things are getting better.
1:07:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I'd probably try to get some resolution to whatever the taste and contract situation is, too.
1:07:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:07:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, great point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jack, Jack said throw Fosco on the deal.
1:07:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we try to make this trade go through, nigga, not get the trick or hang up.
1:07:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go see who?
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my phone.
1:07:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I said yeah.
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_01]: What they don't my team.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the frame of, bro.
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, um, hundred percent would do the John Jennings trade, if I was to say it's also, um, what's his name?
1:07:53
[SPEAKER_02]: The Washington Commanders.
1:07:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, uh, Trevor Clark.
1:07:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Scary Trevor Clark.
1:08:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:08:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He's also unhappy.
1:08:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_01]: where his contract Nicole sees it.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I think that's a fascinating.
1:08:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they pay him, like I'm like, what are you all doing?
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you got, you got that.
1:08:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They did just, like, what are you all doing?
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I paid a guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, anyway, what would he get on a trademark?
1:08:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's older though, he is.
1:08:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, you go to pay him in the thirty range.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we just said, John, James, get a forward.
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, scary Terry got to get at least a second.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a boner five one.
1:08:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a boner five one.
1:08:46
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a boner five one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's, he's at least going to, he got to get a second.
1:08:50
[SPEAKER_02]: At least I can end thirty minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, there's no way.
1:08:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He, he didn't pay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, don't, don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:09:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, anyway.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good fun episode.
1:09:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is kind of like our last kind of like our last down week because again, once training camp starts up next week, rolling.
1:09:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's full steam ahead.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if
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[SPEAKER_02]: our plan for next month.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll think you plan next month works out.
1:09:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're working on something next month.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to divulge it.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to keep that under wraps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will be at the first things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Precise the game.
1:09:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks Chargers.
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1:09:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll have all the reporting.
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_02]: A private thing goes.
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy because we like pre-season football is like rather on the corner, right around the corner.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We all find out.
1:09:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We won't get so many chances.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we will be back.
1:10:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We still have to finish our Rooker the week series at some point, but.
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We're about to see the Rooker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, we have action.
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1:10:22
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