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My roommate gave me a candy from a STRANGER... then called me paranoid for refusing! -r/BORUpdates | Reddit Stories | EP3079-1 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: Ayo, it's Riley here.
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  Speaker 1: My roommate gave me candy from a stranger and then
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  Speaker 1: called me paranoid for refusing.
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  Speaker 4: Strangers always have the best candy.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Me, 24 female, and my two roommates
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  Speaker 1: work in the same company. Today, I worked from home
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  Speaker 1: while they were at the office. My male roommate came
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  Speaker 1: home first and handed me a package I needed him
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  Speaker 1: to grab for me, and there was a lollipop inside.
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  Speaker 1: I asked about it, and he said it was sent
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  Speaker 1: to me by a secret admirer? I asked what in
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  Speaker 1: the world this guy's talking about, but he refused to
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  Speaker 1: elaborate since he promised not to say anything. I asked
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  Speaker 1: if I even knew the person, but he didn't say anything.
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  Speaker 1: My female roommate came home... a couple hours ago, and
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  Speaker 1: I asked her if she knew anything about the lollipop,
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  Speaker 1: but she said she didn't know what I was talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So I put the lollipop inside a container in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the table that has a couple of candy
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  Speaker 1: and mints and said I wasn't eating it. Both asked why,
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  Speaker 1: and I said I have no idea where it came
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  Speaker 1: from and I'm not gonna risk poisoning myself or something.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from WormsOnTheMoon.com. And if you
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  Speaker 1: slash okay story time subreddit. I am Dakota.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Savannah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Riley. We're going to read this here story about
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  Speaker 1: this here lollipop. We're going to have our thoughts and
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  Speaker 1: you get to have yours. in the comments where we
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  Speaker 1: can read them. Now, both of them are calling me
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  Speaker 1: insane and paranoid and that I've been watching too much TV.
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  Speaker 1: Am I? Also, my male roommate has been openly J
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  Speaker 1: with a G since before I knew him. And also,
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  Speaker 1: I threw it out. It was really funny to see
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  Speaker 1: people pressed because I'm risking the safety of imaginary house guests.
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  Speaker 1: And there's an update. First, I want to thank everyone
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  Speaker 1: for reassuring me I wasn't crazy because I needed it
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  Speaker 1: after today. This morning I came into the office and behold,
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  Speaker 1: there was a mini Snickers on my desk. I asked
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  Speaker 1: around and a co-worker, not my roommate, said it was
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  Speaker 1: from my secret admirer. I didn't say anything. I took
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  Speaker 1: the Snickers and tossed it in the trash next to
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  Speaker 1: my desk. Before lunchtime, a woman from another department, Kay,
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  Speaker 1: came and asked me if my roommate had given me
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  Speaker 1: the candy. I was really confused, and Kay said she
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  Speaker 1: had brought Christmas candy for everyone, but since I wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: they had saved me some. My roommate just said she
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  Speaker 1: tossed it in the trash because she doesn't take food
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  Speaker 1: from strangers. I was so embarrassed and apologized to Kay
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  Speaker 1: and told her if I had known who it was from,
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  Speaker 1: I would have eaten it. She left, and I could
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  Speaker 1: see she was really confused. I confronted my roommate. And
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  Speaker 1: apparently this is what happened. Kay brought the candy. They
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  Speaker 1: saved the two leftover pieces for me. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: your roommates are just goofing you like super hard. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they knew you would be the kind
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  Speaker 1: of person who would do this. And so they did
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  Speaker 1: this to you.
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  Speaker 4: I agree. And now look who is stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Under that context, if it's like your secret admirer, it's
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  Speaker 1: like it adds that vector of like, yeah, this person
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  Speaker 1: could be a creep. Who is this person?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone says Secret Meyer.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what do they like about me?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's think about Savannah's type. Savannah likes dudes that
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  Speaker 3: look like they haven't showered in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: It is true.
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  Speaker 6: Can we really trust her judgment?
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  Speaker 1: There was that one guy.
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  Speaker 6: He's gone now.
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  Speaker 1: He looked like a... Oh my. He was probably a
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  Speaker 1: nice young man. On the inside. He looked like a newt. Who?
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  Speaker 1: Newt boy.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know who.
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  Speaker 1: A newt had hair.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, this is great.
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  Speaker 1: Or roommate is the secret admirer, but they said that
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  Speaker 1: roommate is J with a G. Yeah, I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, y'all are annoying. Apparently, all six of
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  Speaker 1: my coworkers, including my roommate, thought it was a great
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  Speaker 1: idea to make up the secret admirer thing and to
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  Speaker 1: save the other one for me to find the next day.
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  Speaker 1: I straight up told them that was a crap thing
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  Speaker 1: to do, and they embarrassed both me and Kay. They
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  Speaker 1: took it as a joke and told me, did you
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  Speaker 1: really think you had a secret admirer in the company?
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  Speaker 1: And I just said that there are many weirdos out there.
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  Speaker 1: I went to apologize personally to Kay, and I'm currently
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  Speaker 1: on ice mode with everyone, but at least I know
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  Speaker 1: there weren't any suspicious substances on that lollipop or Snickers. Yeah, see,
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  Speaker 1: now you wasted them. You're a weirdo for that. To
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  Speaker 1: feel the need to go direct okay, I'm so sorry
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  Speaker 1: that I said that thing to you that you didn't understand.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I know that was so bad of me.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry, though. I'm not talking to anyone in the
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  Speaker 1: office anymore. Yeah, how about we just don't do any
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  Speaker 1: of that? How about we just go, ah, you guys.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are so annoying. And go on with our life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's how much weight that should hold. It'd be
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  Speaker 1: different if they were like, no, eat it, eat it,
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  Speaker 1: eat it. And they're like, put it in your mouth.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm like, dude, don't talk to me. Don't touch me.
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  Speaker 1: Get away from me. Invaded my personal space. It was
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  Speaker 1: just like a little joke. And they knew it would
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  Speaker 1: get you right.
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  Speaker 2: In the goat.
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  Speaker 1: And it did.
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  Speaker 6: Freak.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: read the next one.
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  Speaker 4: My roommate refused to pay every bill. So I got
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  Speaker 4: my name off the lease.
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  Speaker 6: As you should.
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  Speaker 4: My significant other's little sister's boyfriend has been nothing more
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  Speaker 4: than a scathing leech on everyone in his life since
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  Speaker 4: I've known him. Jobless, penniless, couch cruising from significant other's
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  Speaker 4: family members until he's worn out his welcome and constantly
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  Speaker 4: dodging any and all responsibility and claiming himself the victim
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  Speaker 4: no matter what. With that out of the way... The
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  Speaker 4: latest escapade. Significant other's little sister equals Jill. Little sister's
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  Speaker 4: boyfriend equals Jack. Jack was sick for a bit and
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  Speaker 4: having trouble staying at work and calling out a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Serious enough for his HR to put him on FMLA.
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  Speaker 4: FMLA comes to a point for him to either extend
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  Speaker 4: it or go back to work. Jack decides to go back.
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  Speaker 4: Upon arriving at work, starts to feel sick again, calls out,
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  Speaker 4: and while waiting for his relief to get there, emails
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  Speaker 4: his boss a resignation for him to effectively quit immediately.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, his job fires him. Meanwhile, Jill had missed
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  Speaker 4: out on a lot of work because Jack would refuse
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  Speaker 4: to go to the hospital or doctor without her coming
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  Speaker 4: with him. Jill gets fired. By the way, this comes
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  Speaker 4: from Skellington9270, and if you want to submit your own stories,
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  Speaker 4: get onto the r slash ok story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Hot Patty.
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  Speaker 7: Eh!
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  Speaker 5: And we're here to give.
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  Speaker 4: Some good advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers.
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  Speaker 4: We only tell you what we would do. Let us
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  Speaker 4: know what you would do down in the comments. Jack,
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  Speaker 4: at that point, had been living with me for seven
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  Speaker 4: months as a roommate. I wasn't like the rest of
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  Speaker 4: my significant other's family. Jack was on the lease with me,
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  Speaker 4: so he was locked in and liable. Bills all in
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  Speaker 4: my name so I could cut and run if.
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  Speaker 5: I need beat.
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  Speaker 4: I was sick of living with Jack. never cleaned anything,
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  Speaker 4: no dishes, dusting, vacuuming, sweeping, picking up after himself, nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Two weeks before she lost her job, I ran the
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  Speaker 4: idea by Jill. that she could take over my half
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  Speaker 4: of the lease for $ 50, move out of her mom's,
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  Speaker 4: and have her own place with no security deposits for anything.
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  Speaker 4: Just transfer all my crap to them. Clean cut. Wash
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  Speaker 4: my hands of the mess. Flash forward, Jill had been
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  Speaker 4: living there for a week, and I had moved all
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  Speaker 4: of my stuff out when she lost her job. She
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  Speaker 4: had allegedly been fighting with her boss on getting her
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  Speaker 4: pay stubs for the apartment application for weeks. But now
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  Speaker 4: that's out, cause no job. So I'm still tied to
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  Speaker 4: the lease. My significant other and I agreed to give
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  Speaker 4: them two-thirds rent till they get their jobs, thinking a
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  Speaker 4: month at most. This is already a book, so I'll
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  Speaker 4: skip a little crazy crap and get to the juice.
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  Speaker 4: Fast forward four weeks. My significant other and I had
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  Speaker 4: paid two-thirds rent and my significant other's mom paid one-third.
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  Speaker 4: The apartment at that time had Jack, Jill, and one
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  Speaker 4: of Jack's friends living there. Everyone gets their stimulus checks
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  Speaker 4: on the 15th. Jack and his friend get their tax refunds.
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  Speaker 4: Jill gets a job. Jack's friend has had one. Jack
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  Speaker 4: is trying to get his job back to no avail.
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  Speaker 4: His boss called me where friends told me he'd never
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  Speaker 4: hire him again and I told Jack this. Didn't phase him.
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  Speaker 4: Told them that all expenses were on me for the
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  Speaker 4: remainder of the lease end of June. I told all
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  Speaker 4: three of them, significant other tells Jack and Jill, significant
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  Speaker 4: other's mom tells Jack and Jill. Flash forward to yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Me and my significant other have been out of our
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  Speaker 4: old apartment for over two months. We've been living at
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  Speaker 4: significant other's mom's house to save up money to move
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  Speaker 4: out of state. It's been amazing being more or less
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  Speaker 4: on our own and away from all the drama. I
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  Speaker 4: have been asking Jack about bill money, seeing that they
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  Speaker 4: are in my name and due date is coming up.
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  Speaker 4: No response. Jack and Jill show up to the house
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  Speaker 4: to grab some of Jill's stuff she left behind. Jack
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  Speaker 4: walks up to me working in the garage and asks,
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  Speaker 4: have you paid your half of the rent yet?
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  Speaker 5: Me, uh, what?
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  Speaker 4: Significant other. We told you four weeks ago that it
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  Speaker 4: was on.
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  Speaker 6: You, Jack. Crap!
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  Speaker 4: We are effed! We are straight effed!
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  Speaker 5: Jack exits stage left.
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  Speaker 4: My face when those three A-hats had $ 5, 800 between the
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  Speaker 4: three of them four weeks ago and don't have enough
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  Speaker 4: to scratch up $ 770 for rent now. The dude straight
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  Speaker 4: up gets pissed, saying that we promised to pay for
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  Speaker 4: their expenses till the end of the lease.
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  Speaker 6: Where? When did I say that? Bring that up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That they lost their jobs due to the ronin. That
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  Speaker 4: we were attempting to take advantage of him for being
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  Speaker 4: nice and allowing us to move out. I told him
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  Speaker 4: that I didn't know what we were going to do.
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  Speaker 4: Significant other ain't giving them anything. Significant other's mom isn't either.
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  Speaker 4: As for me, my name is on the lease and
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  Speaker 4: rent is due today. So I don't know. Any advice?
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  Speaker 4: You have to take your name off and put it
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  Speaker 4: into them.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: If they weren't responding to your messages, I would have
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  Speaker 7: just covered any and every angle they could have just
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  Speaker 7: been like, oh, we didn't know.
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  Speaker 6: Someone's got to pay this.
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  Speaker 4: After posting this, I decided to cut off the internet.
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  Speaker 4: Jack had been texting me that day, trying to tell
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  Speaker 4: me and my significant other that any and all discussions
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  Speaker 4: of the apartment should go through him and no one else.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the only person not paying to be there.
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  Speaker 4: He hadn't messaged me for over an hour, leaving me
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  Speaker 4: on read.
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  Speaker 1: Within.
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  Speaker 4: Five minutes of me getting off the phone with the
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  Speaker 4: internet company, he texts me asking if I had paid
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  Speaker 4: the internet, when it's due, and how to reset the router.
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  Speaker 6: This guy's really sly.
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  Speaker 7: This guy just knows how to just work his way
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  Speaker 7: around the questions here, the real questions. He said, you
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  Speaker 7: texted him, I cut the internet. So how are you
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  Speaker 7: going to pay for the internet and how do you
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  Speaker 7: reset the router?
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  Speaker 4: I can't think of it. There's a song in Spongebob
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  Speaker 4: and also in the Ravioli song. But they sing the
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  Speaker 4: Bikini Bottom, we love you.
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  Speaker 5: And it's the.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna really, oh, I'm gonna be really upset
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  Speaker 4: about that. Significant other was getting food with their mom
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  Speaker 4: for Jill. They get back to the apartment to drop
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  Speaker 4: off said food and Jill asked them if I had
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  Speaker 4: cut it off and significantly said yes. And all three
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  Speaker 4: of them were laughing, Jill saying, hopefully this will be
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: a wake-up call. She could not have been further from
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  Speaker 4: the truth. I never messaged him back and turned off
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  Speaker 4: the message notification so he couldn't see if I read
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  Speaker 4: them or not. He blew up my phone, seven missed
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  Speaker 4: calls and multiple messages saying, I thought we would be civil.
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: That's some petty bullcrap, bro. I waited a bit and
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  Speaker 4: told him that if he couldn't afford rent, he didn't
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  Speaker 4: need internet and that he had no control over my actions.
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: Him saying, I don't need the electric being out. arbitrarily
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  Speaker 4: turned off based on a decision made entirely on your own.
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  Speaker 4: You don't pay for anything.
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  Speaker 2: So, shh.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know where he comes up with this crap.
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  Speaker 4: Without any notice or sense of decency in discussing with
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  Speaker 4: or even notifying us. Like, really, dude? Am I breaking
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: the Geneva Convention by taking away your bidet, James? I'm
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: not mad you turned off the internet. It's that you
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  Speaker 4: did it without saying anything at all. And maybe I'm
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  Speaker 4: wrong in saying this, but I feel like you avoided
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  Speaker 4: even talking about it with me even afterwards. I responded
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  Speaker 4: with the sense of decency has been entirely absent during
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: this entire process. Breaking the lease is an option. I'm
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: looking at all options that remove my involvement from the apartment.
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that I want out. You don't have control
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: over whether the electric stays on or not. I'm telling
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  Speaker 4: you that it will stay on until my name is
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  Speaker 4: off the lease. I don't feel the same. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think you have tried your best and that everything that
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: I have done has been in my best interest to
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  Speaker 4: do so. I absolutely avoided you after disconnecting the internet.
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  Speaker 4: I know that you and Jack's friend both were extremely upset,
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: so I gave you time to calm down. This is
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: all snippets of a five hour long conversation. But he
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: went on to talk about human decency and respect. I
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: told him I was fed up and he got super
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: defensive saying, F'd up about what exactly? Me being sick
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: and in incredible pain? Also, Jill was still paying one
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  Speaker 4: third until she lost her job and what would have
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: happened been better? Potentially paying $ 1, 000 in a lease break
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  Speaker 4: while also paying for two thirds rent. So you don't
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: have an eviction notice in an apartment you don't even
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: live in. or being responsible for three-thirds rent, so all
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  Speaker 4: the rent, until July.
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: This guy's a moron.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I would talk to significant other and be like, why
• 11:59
  Speaker 7: is your little sister dating this moron?
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be pretty annoyed at this point.
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  Speaker 6: I has no money. I expect everything to be given
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  Speaker 6: to me free.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 6: That's how it works, right?
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  Speaker 4: Apparently, we can add math to things he cannot do.
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  Speaker 4: I responded with, you mean going to the hospital multiple
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: times a week, begging for pain meds, and then checking
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: yourself out when they outright refused? the 20 plus showers
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: a day, the constant noise of dry heaving and screaming. Yeah,
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: I was fed up with that. I understand and know
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: that you were in genuine pain, but that takes its
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: toll on everyone, not just you. If I knew that
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: it would take you more than two months to get
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: a job, I would have broken it when I moved out.
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  Speaker 4: Pay between $ 756 to $ 1, 256 and be done. If I
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  Speaker 4: had stayed- it would have been $ 3, 800 before bills. Or
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  Speaker 4: what you were expecting, where we pay two-thirds until the
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: end of the lease. That's $ 2, 560 plus whatever you can't cover.
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  Speaker 4: The cheapest route. was and still is breaking the lease,
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  Speaker 4: but that would be inhumane. I have already told you
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: that I was exploring any and every possible avenue for
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  Speaker 4: getting my name off the lease. You didn't and don't
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  Speaker 4: need to know about it. It only takes one signature
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  Speaker 4: from one resident to break it. I feel like you
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: have been acting like this is affecting others and that
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: you don't care. Jack, between you, Jill, and Jack's friend,
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  Speaker 4: You had at minimum $ 2, 400 three weeks ago and two
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: of you have jobs. How did you all spend more
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: than $ 2, 000 in less than a month? This whole scenario
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: has taken its toll on me, Jill, significant others, significant others' mom,
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: my dad, probably even Jack's friend too. I know that
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: it isn't just me and significant other. but it seems
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  Speaker 4: like we're the only ones who are going to care
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  Speaker 4: about us. He blew up saying, I do not need
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  Speaker 4: to know about it because it would make me homeless.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: Case in point of not considering others.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: Thanks for proving your point or proving my point.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: What does that have to do with anything?
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know. He's like that.
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: He tried to do a reverse cycle.
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: What was that supposed to do? You really swayed me.
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: Don't know.
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: Don't know.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: That just proved I even tried helping the kid, asking
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: if I did break the lease, would it be my fault?
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: A bit back and forth of him saying it would
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: absolutely be my fault and a horrible thing to do.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: No human decency the whole nine, ending with, well, I
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: suppose it is my fault that I didn't know that
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: it only took one person to break the lease that
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: had two signers on it. and i sincerely mean that
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: i told him that it was crazy how he will
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: pull the pin and jump on every grenade he can
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: to cry victim and to have a nice night of
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: course he had to get the last words in by
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: quoting some of my texts at me and i left
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: it alone the next day i talked to the leasing
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: office and explained everything again the night before they had
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: 500 to put towards rent but now only had 320
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: It cost $ 175 to open up with a new internet
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: account with crappy credit around here, and I guess $ 5
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: for a Happy Meal.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: Just take your name off the lease. You know he's
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: not gonna budge.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it's just his, it's his thing.
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: It's his problem.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: And it saves you such a big headache, which you're
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: already getting. It's giving me a headache how dumb this
• 15:03
  Speaker 7: guy is.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's dumb. This is so stupid.
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: I told the office that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: She laughed.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: I told her that any and all money was coming
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: from them alone. If they were behind or not paying
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: to let me know and that I'd be breaking a lease.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: I also typed up a legal notice stating that under
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: no circumstances would I renew or open up a new
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: lease there in the next 12 months. Because I guarantee
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Dirtbag would do that to me. I haven't heard from
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: him since. Since then, Jill has gotten a second job,
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: and Jack has an interview today to try to get
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: on at Jill's second job.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Girl, no.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: It got to the point where you made your girlfriend
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: get a second job because, one, you can't get a job, anything,
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: to help pay for any of the bills.
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: You really do suck.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Of course, because he has to be stuck up Jill's
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: butt constantly. It only took him three months since he's
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: gotten better. To get a job. Jill has come over
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: a few times to get away from Jack and told
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: me Jack was trying to psych up Jack's friend to
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: come meet with me man to man. The night all
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: of that went down. Or more like man and man
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: to man. That's the end of the series. In the end,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: the shatter was fine and Bilbo and Frodo floated off
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: with the elves and all was happy in Middle Earth.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: The end.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Just kidding.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: Opie's a little dork and I love it. I love you, Opie.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I'm just kidding here because there isn't a second update.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: Oh no.
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I'd just be done with it. Just get your name
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: off the lease.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: There's my advice.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: This guy's such a headache.
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: I would not give him any time of day or
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: anything because after the first month, I would have been like,
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: I'm done.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: I'm done.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Update two.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: More than two months later. So I had cleared everything
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: with the leasing office and they said they wouldn't hold
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: me liable for anything. Jack has been handling everything with
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: the bills and leasing office since then. And Jill and
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Jack's friend have been taking his word for it. A
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: month ago, I got a text from Jill asking if
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: the electric bill was still in my name. I confirmed
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: it was. Apparently, Jack had told her he switched it
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the day he started up his own internet account. Asked
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: if I've been paying and told her he sends me
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: the money whenever it's due. She confronts him. And he
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: tries telling her more lies, then finally comes clean after
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: a day of squabbling. They go to start a new account,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: and due to their poor credit, are required to put
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: down a $ 250 deposit, which they can't afford. Try to
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: borrow from Jill's mom. She ain't having it. So they
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: decide to start an account anyway and put the deposit
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: amount on their first bill. As you do, my account
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: is auto-closed due to their starting. So it isn't my
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: problem anymore.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Should have been like that from the very get go.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: No, literally.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: First bill comes out and surprise, they can't afford it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: So Jack decides to not pay rent on time and
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: not tell the office, as you do. This triggers an
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: eviction warning because they aren't having it either. Jill sees
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: this and goes up to the office herself instead of
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: telling slash letting Jack handle it. She's informed that they
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: have racked up $ 500 in late fees and incorrect payments.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Jack got it in his head that the rent is
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: $ 750 instead of $ 770. Never checked with the office and
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: has been throwing away the notices before anyone else saw
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: them for months. I mean, like, throwing that away isn't
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: doing anything.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Like, still there.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Still gonna get evicted.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Just because, you know, oh, I'm gonna throw away the paper.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: No more eviction!
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: I just want to hear his excuse now of why
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: it came to this or why he didn't know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Who's he going to point the finger at? Better be
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: the mirror. Not your problem anymore. Thank goodness.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Jill calls me and confirms the $ 770 rent. and I
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: can hear him in the background whining to stop talking
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: to me and that he's right. So she goes back
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: up to the office and calls me later asking if
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I was still on the lease and I said yes.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Jack had told her that he handled it and was
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: under the impression that they were on a new lease
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: that had been extended. When she found out about the lies,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: the lease was up in less than a week. It
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: was never renewed or canceled or anything. I called the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: office the day the lease ran out and the conversation
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: watered down when we good.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we good.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: So now they're on a month-to-month lease, whether they know
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: it or not. That's $ 1, 000 a month with $ 250 plus
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: in fees. Wanting to leave, but Hey, the internet is
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: still on. My hands are clean and that's all I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: care about. I knew that this would end up being
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: a trilogy. I could finally sleep soundly.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely was some type of.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Jack wasn't... Regular use guy. Truly.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: He was using something.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: I would try and talk to Jill and be like, Jill,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: what is he doing for you?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Other than making your life miserable and stressful.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you... What are you getting out of this?
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Other than stress.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: It's really not worth it, in my opinion. I'd be
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: done with it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to read.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the next one my brother hooked up with my sister-in-law
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: my wife found it hilarious that is hilarious i am
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: 28 male at home now and my wife 28 female
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: is in the other room on her tablet earlier this
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: evening i drove by my folks place to drop off
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: some floor tiles i got for my father He and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: my mother are celebrating their anniversary and are out of
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: state on vacation. Anniversary floor tiles. There was like a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: house party going on on the same street, and it
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: forced me to have to park a bit further away
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: than usual due to all the cars, and I don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: have access to my folks' garage door opener.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Dang it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user... Miserlew Loves Company
• 20:28
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• 20:30
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• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I'm Sophia I'm Riley and we.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Are going to read this here story maybe have a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: little bit of advice to give maybe not who knows
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: but you can tell us all of your thoughts in
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the comments stream of consciousness style no.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: One wants the owls I'm not taking offense to it
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: but I am offended I don't even care wow that's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a tough crowd I don't even freaking care.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: So I park in front of a different house and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: walk a little way I go into the house through
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: one of the side doors to get at the garage.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: When I get in the house, I'm immediately struck with
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the sounds of baby making. I am grossed out and confused.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: At first, thinking it's my parents. Gross. They're both in
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: their 60s.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Gross. They can't do that anymore.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Before that image can settle, I pass through the door
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: in the house that connects to the garage and my
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: brother's car is parked in there. He's 23, male. He
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't live with my parents. For a second, I'm like, okay, creepy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He took a date back to my folks' place, but
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I reasoned it's because he has a messy apartment. Not
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: wanting to cause a scene or ruin his fun, I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: duck out thinking I'll come back tomorrow.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: What?
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: Uh-oh.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: What? I haven't said anything to the wife yet. Part
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of me is like, keep your mouth shut and pretend
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you saw nothing. And the other part knows I ought
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to tell my wife. What the heck do I do?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Tell your wife. Tell your wife.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: And then she has to deal with it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And you are not alone in this moral conundrum.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Your wife's in it now. You're in it together.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Are you going to cry? Okay, we've got comments. OP says,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I've decided to do as someone suggested and drive by
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: my folks tomorrow around the same time and see if
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the car is there. I'm going to ask my brother
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: why he's doing specific things in my folks' house. I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: then going to ask him directly if it was her
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: because her car was there.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: This is what you do. You take him into a room.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: There's only one light. He's seated down.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: There are no windows or doors.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: There's no windows or doors. There's only one light. It's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: one of those like really small lights. It's directly pointed
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: at him. He can't even see you. It's so dark
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: in there. He can't see you. Light's shining right into
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: his face.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: He's gone. You pass over a document and you say,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: is this you? He opens it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It's him lying on the bed. And then you say,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: who's the woman in the picture? And he goes, what's
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Where am I?
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: You say, answer the question. Who's the woman in the picture?
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: He looks down. He goes, sister-in-law.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: Nope.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: He goes, boys, we got him. Take him away. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: then brother goes, no, no, please, please.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That's good. I was really hoping for a twist though.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Brother says, no, no, please, please. They take him away.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: It's the president.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: The president of Gahool. They've hit the tree. Metal beak
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: hit the tree.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: They've hit the tree.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Based on his answers and how truthful I think he's being,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'll go to my wife about it. No sense in
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: embarrassing my brother too much if he just had a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: random girl at the house. Opie also says, it's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: new day, a different day. If I drive down there
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and her car is still there, it's obviously cheating. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: there's an update two days later.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Oh boy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I had the day off today and it was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: still gnawing at me. Well, today I went to drop
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: off the tiles and neither car was there. I neglected
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to mention any of this to my wife and decided
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to just talk to my brother first to see what
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was going on. As he wasn't there, I figured I'd
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: go pick up a case of briskies and drive over
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to see him. Make up some story about being in
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. As I'm on the way to do this,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I get a call from my wife who sounds a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: little distraught. She informs me that she just got off
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the phone with her sister and that she's apparently getting divorced.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Sister-in-law and her husband actually haven't been living in the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: same apartment for like A week now. What? Hearing this,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I expected her to tell me that sister-in-law got caught cheating,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: but it was actually the opposite.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: What?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: The guy I thought I'd be helping, well, it turns
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: out he's been having a six-month affair with their kid's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: former preschool teacher.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: What?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: So sister-in-law's husband was having an affair with the preschool teacher,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and so sister-in-law was not cheating when she was having
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the spicy sleep with the brother.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: What?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Sister-in-law had been despairing for a week having to tell
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: anyone about this because she's ashamed of it. So I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: breathed a sigh of relief knowing that if I had
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: stumbled on what I stumbled on, at least there was
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: no real wrongdoing there. No shenaniganry. Tomfoolery or underhandedness. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: still kept it from my wife and opted to talk
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to my brother. I don't usually show up out of
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the blue, so he was a little anxious that I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was there. I told him about me and what I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: heard and he apologized profusely. I then asked him about
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: sister-in-law's car and he got quiet. Well, It turns out
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: sister-in-law wasn't telling my wife the whole truth. Apparently, sister-in-law
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: has known about her husband's affair for several months now,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but didn't confront him until just recently. Waiting for the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: opportune moment to strike.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Ow!
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: While worrying about who to talk to about all this,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: she bumped into my brother at a gas station. He
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: told me that she basically broke down crying over it,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and for the last few months, he's been letting her
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: confide to him. and he's kept quiet about it. They
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: next started meeting up and having coffee together, and as
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: my brother has depression, he was recommending a few good therapists.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: There was never any major flirting in their meetups. They
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: actually talked about their kids. My brother has a daughter
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: from a previous relationship, so he talked about her. Sister-in-law's husband,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: who did not know his infidelity had been discovered, began
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to grow suspicious of my brother and sent him a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: message asking about what is going on with his wife.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Why are they suddenly liking each other's posts so much?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and texting. When sister-in-law learned of the messages she saw
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: read and finally confronted her husband and he walked out.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: That was last week. Folks, what is going on?
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: What's going on?
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: More and more people in this country are walking out
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of their marriage. Simply because your husband slept with a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: preschool teacher. It's just a big brain activity right now.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty funny.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Seeing as we're not even funding the preschools.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I find that kind of funny.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Seeing as.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: It's a real mega mind kind of thing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: You feel me?
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, make a mind.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: That takes us to yesterday. They went out for coffee again.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Sister-in-law mentioned being worried about how to tell her folks
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and her husband's folks about his affair, but said she
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: was feeling much better with him not in the house.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: She kept giving him signs talking about her passed away bedroom,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: talking about being lonely.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: She said, my bedroom is so lonely.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: She's like, ah, I haven't been touched.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: My husband's F-ing the preschool lady.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: She's talking about spastic frustrations, and my brother took the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: bait and took it to my folks' place, and the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: rest is history. When asked why he chose my folks' place,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: he said it's because they have a better TV, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: he had left his guitar there and needed to pick
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it up anyway.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Like, why sleep there? My guitar was there.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, home is where the girl who wants to bang
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: me is, bro. What are you talking about?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Duh.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I told my wife when I got home and she
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: turned from being sad and nervous for her sister to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: quite playful about everything. So it's looking like my kids
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: might have double cousins at some point. Whoa, that's crazy.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. Hey, this
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: is Riley, the new Californian here.
• 28:02
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• 28:06
  Speaker 2: My father said presents proved they cared about us while
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: criticizing my husband.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Criticize, criticize, criticize.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: My younger sister just came for a visit. My husband
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and I moved across the country from most of my
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: family after getting married. For reasons that will likely become
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: clear as you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Continue to read. And it was a disaster.
• 28:25
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• 28:28
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  Speaker 1: I'm Sophia. I'm Dakota. I'm Riley.
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  Speaker 5: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
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  Speaker 5: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the comments. Oh,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: P says, I was so excited to share that I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: newly pregnant with her. But basically from the moment she
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: got here, she harped on my husband who had advocated
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: for her visit and even offered to pay part of
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: her way, encouraged her to stay longer prior to her
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: getting here. Anyway, she was staying with us and eventually
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I snapped and told her she wouldn't be welcome if
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: she kept talking like this about my husband to me
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and to his face. She toned it down, but was
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: obviously offended by this. For context, the main issue is
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: that the dishes were piled up. My husband works full-time hours,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but odd times. 10 to 16 hour days, sometimes starting
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: at 5 a.m. Dang.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Sometimes working until midnight.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Dang. So he has days off midweek, which has been
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: so helpful. Had a physically demanding job and has always
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: been the main cook. Sometimes like once a month, maybe.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I make a salad or a simple side dish, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: otherwise he cooks everything. So dishes and other housework are
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: primarily my responsibility. This is how we divided housework from
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the get-go and it works well for us. He's been
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: trying and overall succeeding. To pick up the slack since
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I've been horribly sick this whole pregnancy. And the smell
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: of doing dishes specifically has been making me nauseous. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: they were already behind because of me prior to the pregnancy.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't even his fault, which I just kept
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: telling her. I was happy I got a prescription that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: worked well enough that I had the energy to vacuum
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and clean the bathroom properly before she came. The kitchen, unfortunately,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: just wasn't something I could fully tackle.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Of course you can't tackle a kitchen. It's a room.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Not a person?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I can't tackle it. It was just too big.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm Mr. Literal now.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: He's Mr.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Literal.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Call this guy Amelia Bedelia.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Call me Pepper Ann.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And so, while still very much livable, it wasn't up
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to my normal standard with some clutter around and far
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: too many dishes in the sink. She kept saying how
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: useless he is and how I need to address the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: issue with him. Again, despite the mess quite literally being
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: from my own uselessness.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Not really. I also work and I have had some
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: crazy weeks recently.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Dishes aren't exactly my favorite chore and they wound up
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: piling up a little longer than usual. Then pregnancy nausea
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: hit and it got really backed up. I think her
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: feelings about the kitchen needing to be cleaner for her
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: as a guest were justified on some level. That's how
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I was raised. My husband disagrees and thinks she doesn't
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: get an opinion when she's staying somewhere for free.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, she still gets an opinion. How much
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: weight does it hold?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: But how she addressed it as some major failure on
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: my husband's part was wholly unacceptable. Additionally, because I've been
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: unwell from the pregnancy, it also definitely wasn't the trip
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: either of us were looking forward to. I couldn't really
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: take her to the local or- I could barely leave
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the house and I was so exhausted I fell asleep
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: on her multiple times and had to take naps every day,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: leaving her to her own devices. She's pretty introverted and
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: brought college work and a huge book to read. She
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: had things she had planned to do on her own,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: but I feel bad about it anyway. I've struggled setting
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: boundaries with my parents my whole life. Knowing I'm going
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to have a child to care for and protect has
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: definitely emboldened me to set firmer boundaries with them. One
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: of them being they will not get a relationship with
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: my children if they're going to talk badly about their dad.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Our relationship, parenting style... etc.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: regardless of whether they are doing so in front of
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the kid or not. I want to be clear that
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it's not about not accepting constructive criticism or feedback. It's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: about them making comments about how my husband doesn't love me,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't treat me right, isolated me from them, calling him
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: stupid and other outright baseless lies or insults.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's that bad.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Usually it's insinuated rather than said outright. But there's no
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: mistaking it. I haven't told them about the pregnancy yet.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I was waiting for my sister to visit so I
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: could surprise her in person and my nervousness to address
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: this with them came up. My sister and I talked
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: about this at length and she was supportive of that
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: boundary but proceeded to speak down to my husband and
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: about him negatively to me. Basically any chance she got.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: We had a rocky relationship as kids. We were pitted
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: against each other from the moment she was born. But
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the past few years, we've really made so much progress
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and I thought mostly repaired that relationship. She's already talking
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: about her next visit. Initially, I asked her to come
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: instead of my mom around the time of the birth.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But now that I've seen her attitude on full display
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: in her home, at this moment, I am so beyond
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: drained and no longer want that. It's exactly what I
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: expect and want to avoid from my mom. And I
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: just expected more of my sister. I don't have family here.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And while there are friends who I know I can
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: count on, at least for some things. I really wanted
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: some measure of family support during the pregnancy and now
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: feel like this happy thing is going to be a
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: struggle I go through alone. Oh, obviously I know it
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: can count on my husband. He has been a saint
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: trying so hard to cook healthy meals I can stomach
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: when nothing sounds good and waiting on me hand and
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: foot when he's home while balancing work, his normal housework,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: and a lot of my usual chores on top of
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: it all without a single complaint.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Dude, cool husband alert.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Sounds great.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Sounds great. Sounds like he's awesome.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: He is a trooper and has put up with this
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: ridiculous attitude from my family our entire relationship. I tried
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to play mediator at first, but when my parents and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: sister base their feelings on absolutely nothing and he just
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: keeps on putting up with it, I just get more
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and more sick of it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: And we've got an update. But do you have any thoughts?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I like your husband.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, your husband seems cool, man.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine a more overwhelming place to be. Being
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: pregnant and... Yeah. Everyone around you is annoying except your husband. Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: And demanding.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: And they're near you. Sounds like a nightmare.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think we should invent a system of underground networks
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: where pregnant people can take a capsule into a bubble
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: society so that they can be sheltered from the nonsense.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Whenever a pregnant woman gets annoyed, it just goes... And
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: they go into their little capsule.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: It's like a life alert thing where it's around their
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: neck and they just press a button and it... Like
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it unfolds like an Iron Man, Tony Stark suit.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And it's like just a, and then it just, it
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: just drills down into the earth.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I like that. I like that. I think we've got sharks.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. Sharks.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: But we got some updates. Our little baby boy is here.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Almost a month old. Happy and healthy.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: We moved to another city still on the other side
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of the country from my immediate family at the start
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: of November as we both had friends here and my
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: husband found a job with better opportunities, benefits, hours, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: we're thriving!
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Yay!
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I had a really difficult pregnancy. Thankfully, postpartum and the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: newborn stage have been really quite enjoyable for me. My
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: husband is amazing with the baby and such a good
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: supportive partner, making sure I prioritize eating and rest. Something
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I honestly struggle to do at times. It's funny, I
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: was so worried when I made the last post about
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: not having my mom or sister as support in the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: delivery room, and there were one or two moments when
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I mourned what could have been. But I didn't realize
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: just how wonderful it would be to just be my
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: husband and I. And it really was special. On to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: the main reason for the update. We are no contact
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: with my parents right now. It has not been easy
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: emotionally to make that decision, but things came to a
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: head this fall. I'll try to keep this as brief
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: as possible, but man, there are a lot of things
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to tell. Part of why we moved here is that
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I knew people who lived in my hometown, and I
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: grew up with people who know and are friends and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: friendly with my parents and my husband also knew a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: couple with kids around our age who are here my
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: parents came here a few years ago for the wedding
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: of one of our mutual friends and made more friends
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: while they were here even met the couple who know
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: my husband we all happen to be part of the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: same community and it can be very small world we
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: have been given such an amazing welcome by all and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: feel right at home here In December, someone here told
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: me about some comments that they had heard either directly
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: from my mom or repeated by someone she talked to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: at various points in the last few years. Uh-oh. Comments that,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: according to them, made them worried about me and led
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: them to go to the couple my husband knows and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: ask about his character.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Come on, what's this mom saying? Shut up.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: That was very upsetting to me. I cried to my
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: husband about it all night. I felt like the people
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: who had welcomed us, particularly people who were friends with
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: my parents, who I could only assume mom would have
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: said some of these things to, were silently watching and
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: judging our relationship. To be clear, these friends of my
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: parents have been very good friends to me and have
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: since reassured me that they are judging my husband on
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: his own merit and take what my mom has said
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: to them with a grain of salt, and I trust that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I felt talked about. I felt betrayed. I felt that
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: what she said about my husband reflects what she thinks
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: about me. Like she thinks I'm so stupid and desperate
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that I married the first boy to give me any attention.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: It's actually pretty much exactly what my grandmother told me
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the day after we got engaged.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Yikes.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: That's a lot to chew on.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Grandma sucks.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Not exactly on great terms with her either for obvious reasons,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: but that is a story for another time. I felt
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: as though I can't trust my mom around my child.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: If she hates his father this much, who he will
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: likely look and act like, and who he is named after,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: how do I trust she won't treat my child just
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: as bad? How do I trust she won't badmouth or
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: undermine her father in front of him? Add on to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: this that back in March of last year, at a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: family funeral, I had multiple aunts and cousins asking how
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I was doing. one in particular asking in a way
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: that made me feel as though they thought I was
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: unhappy and in trouble.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: It's my mom's family.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Where would they get this idea other than from my mom,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: who I know had bad-mouthed my husband in the past?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Add on to this the awfulness I suffered from my
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: mom growing up and how it has had a real
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: toll on me this pregnancy when I thought about the
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: kind of mother I would be. I made the decision
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that night that we were going no contact with my mom,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: at least for the time being.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: My parents had visited us.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: In October, so only two months prior of My husband
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: and dad had a good talk then. I was prepared
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to have a talk with my mom about certain behaviors
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and boundaries, but she was surprisingly well-behaved, so rather than
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: sour the trip, I decided to leave it alone. And
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: we felt that we'd finally turned a corner. Because of this,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the betrayal felt deeper. But it also made my husband
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: feel he should reach out to my dad and speak
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: to him first to get some of their side and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: let him know where we were at, especially as I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: was so worked up. According to him, that conversation also
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: went well. My dad seemed to take what he had
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: to say seriously, acknowledge our feelings about it, and respect
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the decision.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Well, when I spoke with him later on, he completely backtracked.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: He said that he'd never heard my mom say anything
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: as bad as we were making it out to be.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: My reply was that she said to my face bad
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: things about my husband. So she absolutely is capable of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: saying that sort of thing.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: It's clearly what she thinks.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: He apologized for that and said he didn't know, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: what she'd say to me isn't what she'd say to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: just anyone, which I don't know if that's really true
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: or not. He said that they had bought us things.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: He said that they had bought us things!
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Genie of the lamp, is she saying all of this
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: stuff to everybody or just me? And then the genie
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: comes out and goes, that's the dumbest... Wish I've ever gotten.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: This was proof that they were trying to be supportive
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: and choosing to cut mom off was so ungrateful. He's like, yeah,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: your mom is talking about you behind your back, but
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: she's buying you stuff.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah so you should let her let her
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: do that she's.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: You know here comes the mommy with all the money
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy money money It was confused.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a reply for that in the moment,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: but it felt really disgusting. Like they were buying the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: right to a relationship with us, regardless of how they
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: treated us. We had a second conversation where he said
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that we were compromising our relationship with God.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: We are very religious.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: My response was that this choice is something we talk
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to people in the church about, and we were given
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: scriptures that actually backed our decision. One example is Proverbs
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: 26 20, which basically says there's no fire without wood.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: There's no bad mouthing without a bad mouther. I'm summarizing.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: That's not a direct quote, lol. And I thought about
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: David and Saul, literally his father-in-law. Even when Saul offered peace,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: David kept his distance. And it turned out was right
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to do so because Saul kept hunting him.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Well, clearly Proverbs has never heard of that. I don't
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: know what country it's in, but there's a fire that's
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: been burning underground for, I don't know. You can have
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: fire without wood. That's my point. I can't even do it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: You can get fire with that too. I don't know.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Read the Bible.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: He also said that anything they may have said to
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: me about him in the past was out of love
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and concern for me. Yet when my mom was verbally
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and emotionally awful towards me in the past, I guess
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the love and concern about awfulness only counts when it's
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: not my mom. The straw that broke the camel's back
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: has been how she talks about my husband, but how
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: she treated me growing up is absolutely coloring my feelings. Basically,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: every time my dad and I interacted after it, felt
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: like he wasn't just minimizing her actions. He was manipulating
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: my already high emotions to get the result he and
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: my mom wanted. It was way harder to make the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: choice with my dad because he'd always been the safe parent.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: But we decided that we couldn't reasonably be in contact
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: with him either after this. We have decided that this
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: is hopefully not a long-term thing Though I don't think
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: at this point the relationship can ever quite be what
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: they want, as I still don't think I can ever
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: truly trust how they'd be alone with my kid. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: realize many people decide for no contact to be permanent,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: and I see the argument for it, but my husband
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and I agree that if we see any reason for it,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: we will be open to a relationship with them in
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the future. One thing I mentioned to them was that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: while I obviously can't force my mom into therapy or
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: meds or anything.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Her.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Taking steps to address her mental health, whatever those steps
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: may be, would likely help me to feel better about
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: our relationship. And my sister has told me that she's
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: been looking for a therapist.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: At least you got sister.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: At least you got someone on your team, right?
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Out of kindness, my mom is extremely anxious and this
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: is their first grandkid. I reached out to tell them
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: when baby was born that we were all healthy and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I sent them a Part of me hopes that we
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: can let this go and try to rebuild. Part of
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: me is so relieved not to have the stress that
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't even realize a relationship with my mom was
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: giving me right now while figuring out motherhood myself.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: On to my sister.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: When I made the decision to go no contact with
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: my mom, I also made the decision for my sister
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: not to come out for the birth. We both cried
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: when we talked about it, but she understood and apologized
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: for her behavior on the trip last year.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Huge, huge, love that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Big, big moves, big moves, big changes.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: Any thoughts? Just one will do.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Trees. Eh, that's good. If I'm honest, I'm on OP's side.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: If I'm being real, totally on her side.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I believe OP and your mom is stinky. And at
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: least your sister apologized. We had a good talk.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: And are mending the hurt.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: She may come out to meet her nephew sometime later
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: this year, but no plans are set yet. My husband
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: still holds some hurt over the visit, which is totally justified,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: especially given the past few months with the drama with
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: my parents. She knows she cannot stay with us when
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: she comes this time, but I hope that with time
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: this can be resolved as well. I also started seeing
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: a therapist after the decision to go no contact was made,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm feeling pretty good these days. Slowly but surely,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I'm getting the hang of motherhood. a good headspace and
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I have support for my husband and friends both here
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and far away. As negative as the most of this
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: update has been, I'm so thankful for that. My adorable
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: son is already growing so fast and I'm really enjoying
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: getting to soak in this season of his life.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: And that is the end.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Life does move in seasons, does it not?
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Seasons of love.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Season one, season two, season three, season four.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Season five.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: No way for me. And that's the end of this story.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: We're going to read the next one.
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: My wife secretly applied to school, then demanded I approve
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: her loan.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, uh, what, you don't want your wife to
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: be smart?
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Well, here's a fun start.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: My wife and I have had a rocky relationship over
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: the last few years.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: We have two young kids under six.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: We are going to our second marriage counselor now and
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: have been making progress on removing resentment and communicating better.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: I am the breadwinner in the relationship. My wife tends
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: to want to spend any money that she has access
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: to and believes I care too much about money. She's
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: not involved with any of the bills and gets stressed
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: out if I try and have a serious conversation.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: About budgets with her. Oh boy, what a lovely start.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe she should go to school to learn about finance.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: She has a bachelor's degree and has been bouncing around
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: doing different jobs related to her degree. She never seems
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: to be content with doing what she's doing and is
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: always looking to change something. She has brought up going
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: back to school for a different degree for a number
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: of years now. I have tried to be open-minded and
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: understand where she's coming from, but considering our young family,
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: our current financial responsibilities, and the fact that she already
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: has a great degree that she can do a lot with,
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: it has been hard for me to be supportive of
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: her ideas. Yeah.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Life sucks when you're put in a position where you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: have to sacrifice the thing that you want, do the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: right thing in the context of what's already going on.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: And if you yeah, if you have like a family
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and two kids under six that you got to support now,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: now is not the time to delete your income and
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: go back to school. when you have a degree that
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you can use to get jobs.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Obi continues saying, we were fortunate enough to save up
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: some money over the last year and were able to
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: completely pay off her school loans.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: The next day, she's let me know that she.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: Wants to quit her job, maybe work part-time to still
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: bring in some money and go back to school to
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: take out a 60K in a school loan.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Oh no.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: What are we doing? We just paid them off. You
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: just like spending money on nothing.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: If there were no kids, I'd be like, I guess
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you could do that. It's better to do it now
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: than to wait. But you already have kids.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: I go, honey, where's the 60K coming from? Honey, where's
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: the 60K coming from?
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: If you had no degree, it'd be like, okay. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. What level of compensation are you able
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to bring in?
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: But.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: I do know that this story comes from user ThrowIt12234.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: And if you want.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: To submit your own stories, go to the r slash
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: OKStoryTime subreddit.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: And we're here to give good advice goofily. We do
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: not have all the answers. We only know what we do.
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: Let us know what you do in the comments down below.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: As OP says. We had a discussion about what she
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: wants to go for, how childcare would work, a few
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: of my concerns, and she had some good ideas and
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: had put a good amount of thought into it. When
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: it came to asking for a timeline, she admitted that
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: she had already applied, been accepted, and is waiting for
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: my approval to sign the school loan acceptance.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, none of that's necessarily wrong. It's just like,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you'd think that you would ask about the most important part,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: which is, Can we financially do this before you do
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: all of that work?
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: She then let me know that it was in the
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: ballpark of $ 60, 000.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: For this degree.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: As soon as I mentioned any apprehension to that financial
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: and time commitment, I was told that I care more
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: about money than my family.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: I'm divorcing her. I'm sorry.
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: If this is your idea and how you do the
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: argument every time is you care about money more than family.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's like I care about the money that provides for
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: our family.
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: Obi continued saying, I found this truly hurtful as I
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: have worked hard to be where I am to be
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: able to provide a comfortable life for my family. Family.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Q and Vin Diesel.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: I do hold resentment for sacrifices I had to make
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: at the threat of her breaking up our family in
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: the past. As soon as the conversation got tougher about
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: going back to school, she told me our values are
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: too different, that I hold money above everything else, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: that she will do this without me if I'm not
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: on board.
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: She's just threatening you. These are just empty threats.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You hold money above everything else. Hey, why are you
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: going back to school?
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: Also, who's paying for everything?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Are you going back to school so that you can
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: get a better job that makes more money, or are
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: you going back to school just so you can get
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: a different job that you don't hate?
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: So I can spend more money.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Because I have a sneaking suspicion you're going to go
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: to school to get that degree, to get the job,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you're going to get to the job, and you're not
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: going to like it.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: The conversation is not resolved, and I feel very hurt,
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: and I am convincing myself more and more that this
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: is not a right for a spouse to hang over
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: their partner's head. My wife suffers from depression, has been
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: seeing her own therapist, and has not been improving. Any
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: obstacle she experiences, her first reaction is to quit, Dakota.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: She goes, that's too hard. That's too tough.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I give up. And you know what? You should, girly pop.
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: Regardless of what's at stake, I am not free of fault,
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: as I have made my own mistakes as well over
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: the relationship. We have another marriage counseling session tonight, and
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: I am losing motivation right now to try and fight
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: for this relationship, besides trying to give my kids the
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: best life possible. My question for you, fellow Redditors... Do
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: I bend over and fake a smile in hopes that
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: this new career and life path brings my wife the
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: fulfillment she thinks she's looking for? Or do I call
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: her bluff and tell her she's doing this on her
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: own if she wants to burden herself with such a
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: debt and time commitment while agreeing to.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: Break up my family? We have an update.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know, OP, what which one sounds better over
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: there you get bent over and just keep doing the
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: cycle and her lying to you and making you feel
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: like the.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Bad guy honestly there's we're missing like what i would
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: consider all of the most important pieces of information to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: determine how out of pocket either of these people are
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: being namely like how much income you're both pulling in,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: how long she's been in the field she's in, what
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: the nature of her work is, the nature of the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: works that she wants to do by getting a degree,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: where you live, what does it cost to be in
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: your house? Is it paid off? Is it not? Do
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you have a mortgage? What's going on? Without all that information,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it's really impossible to say what's right. or who's right,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: but it definitely feels like, based on what you've said,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: this is not going to end with your wife getting
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: another degree and then getting that job. It's just going
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to move the problem down the line.
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: If my partner kept saying, all you think is about
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: money over your family, and I go, I'm the only
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: one who's been working a consistent job providing for the family,
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: and you want to go play make-believe or the reset button, no,
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: this is life. We have two kids now. You know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: like I get it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: You don't.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: Sometimes a job does suck, but it's not. It hasn't
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: been one to two jobs or three jobs. It's been
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: like any obstacle she gets, anything that's tough. She goes,
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: I know how to make it easier. Don't tackle it.
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: Don't go head on.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: Go backwards.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man.
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: We have an update. Opie says, just got.
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: Done with our marriage counseling session. The counselor was on
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: my wife's side and did not care or want to
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: hear about any ultimatum. I'm supposed to be more compassionate
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: to my wife's feelings and desires and need to support
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: her on this decision. Basically, I was given the same
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: scenario by the counselor. If I want to stay in
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: this marriage, then this is something my wife has to do.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It just, I can, I can, again,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: we just don't have enough info to make it go
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: one way or another, in my opinion, because if I
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: had a partner and they were miserable in their job
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: and we were financially secure enough for her to explore
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a different career path, then I'd do it. But I
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. I guess if that were the case, you
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have to sign a loan. You'd just pay for
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it out of pocket. So maybe that is evidence enough
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that that's not the case.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: Up to continue saying, I will still be looking into
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: protecting myself and consulting a lawyer. Thank you to everyone
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: who responded and provided their advice and opinions. We have
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: a second update. We're going straight into it. So After
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: the original post, I was preparing for the end of
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: my marriage. I was a mess and had a number
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: of very weak moments. I will give my wife credit.
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: She did see how hurt and distraught I was, and
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: she did provide comfort and support. As mad as I
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: was at her, it was needed and allowed us to
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: be vulnerable enough to admit some things that were hard
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: to hear. Our first couples counseling after the incident seemed
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: like a joke when discussing our situation. But reflecting and
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: talking it out like adults with my wife, I have
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: learned a number of things. First, my wife agreed to
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: not pursue furthering her college until we had looked over
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: all the options and tried to figure it out together.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: She felt like she had to try to have conversations
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: about her furthering her education and thought at this point
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: her only option was doing it alone behind my back.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: I have been very.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: Dismissive of the idea and it causes a lot of
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: stress and anxiety to me about the financial and emotional
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: burden that it comes with. This is partly my fault
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: for not listening and understanding what she was feeling and
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: what she needs in her life. Looking back on it now,
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: I was upset that my wife and marriage counselor were
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: not concerned about me giving an ultimatum about our relationship
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: unless I allow my wife to burden us with more
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: debt and disrupting our lives for her benefit. It was
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: not fair of me to be the decision maker on
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: what her life looks like, but is both our faults
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: for not communicating better over the last few years?
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: Dakota?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know it sounds like it could be be
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: better like I said like I don't know I really
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: don't I can't have a horse in the race because
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: all of the most important information is left out it's
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: like all of the information that would make me decide
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: one way or another on who is more like justified
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: in their stance here snanced it's completely missing.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah I'm just I'm just afraid that OP's partner is
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: just to keep doing this cycle of I'm not happy
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: with my job I'm not happy with my job I
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: need a new job I don't like what I'm doing
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: I need new degree or I need to do something else.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It's like maybe you just need something outside of your
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: job like a hobby all that stuff matters in terms
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of like like is OP like a nurse and they're
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: like I can't handle it anymore you know like that
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: makes sense so like an incredibly stressful job but it's
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: like yeah if they're just they have a communication degree
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: And they're bouncing around from job to job. But that
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: also makes sense because it's like I want a job
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: that does more and makes more and means more. It's
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people feel that. It really just
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: all comes down to can you financially– how much does
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: it hurt? And for her to try to just do
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: it behind your back and then be like, well, it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: already all done. You just have to say yes. It's like, well,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: it's clearly a little manipulative or trying to be. Yeah.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: But we have a new understanding now, so I guess
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: that's better.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: Let's go ahead and finish up this story.
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: Our marriage is not fixed by any means, but we
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: have agreed to give it six months to a year
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: to see if we can figure it out and fix
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: what is broken. In the almost two weeks since I
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: had made the original post, we had a number of
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: very nice moments and have communicated and gotten along better
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: than we have in years. We have learned things about
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: each other that we didn't even know and have enjoyed
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: each other's company. This could and may be short-lived, but
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: I am naively optimistic that we can keep our family together.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: I am still preparing for my backup plan in case
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: things do not work out. Thank you to everyone who
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: gave their opinions on the situation. And that's the end
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: of that story. I hope it all works out, and
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: I hope things go smooth for the rest of your
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: time and your families. All peachy and good, OP, but
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: I think this is a sign that as long as
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: you can put in the work and the effort, And communicate,
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: I think it should be fine.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: But who knows?
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: This is a fresh phase. It's a new start, technically.
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: And I hope it works out for you.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: read the next one.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fashion host here. We're going
• 55:36
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• 55:41
  Speaker 1: My wife and I are paying for our wedding, but
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the guests are demanding we change it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: Don't come to my wedding.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: We aren't going to change our wedding. I'm not looking
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: for advice. I'm just venting.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Oh, these are my favorite. I love that. We're going
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: to have so much fun with this one.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: We are going to have a 10 or 15 minute
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: ceremony at sunset. Afterwards, we'll have dinner and a reception.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: The two of us plan to take most of our
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: photos before the ceremony. Only a few with our families
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: will be needed after the ceremony. Additionally, all guests must
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: be above the legal drinking age, so no one under
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the age of 18 is allowed inside. This is the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: policy of the venue, not ours. I would like to
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: think we are being reasonable to our guests. The ceremony
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: and reception will be four to four and a half
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: hours long. If any guests want to leave earlier, it's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: not a problem. We'll be providing transportation to and from
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the venue for anyone who wants it. The wedding will
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: be on a Saturday, so no one we're inviting will
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: need to take time away from their jobs. By the way,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this comes from Wedding Absurdity 96. If you want to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: submit your own stories, go to the r slash ok
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: story time subreddit. I'm Dakota.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to read this story. We're going to put
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: our thoughts out there. You can put your thoughts in
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: the comments. We know everything. Listen to us all the time.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: We know better.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: Two plus two is five.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: See?
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: We know better. You think I'm being serious? You don't
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: belong on the internet, OP says. The wedding is local
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and all of the people we're inviting live here. No
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: one has to travel or pay for a hotel. None
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of our guests will have to pay for their food
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: or drinks or transportation, which I've heard of that happening.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: And we've told everyone we don't expect gifts. There's no
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: pressure for that.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: It sounds like a very just chill wedding.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Their problem is going to be like, why is it
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: so chill? It should be less chill.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: And, of course, we obviously can't force anyone to attend.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: If anyone declines our invitation, we won't bother them about it.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: The two of us are paying for our entire wedding ourselves.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: But everyone seems to think we want their opinion.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: Who wants what? Is it in-laws?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Let's find out. Who are these people? Do you walk
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: by them on the street?
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: Hey, what do you think about our wedding?
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Hate it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: You smell like you're getting married.
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: Smells like a scam.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: The biggest complaints are about children not being invited because
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: of the age policy of the venue. So many people
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: are upset and say we need to get married somewhere
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: else so their babies or kids can come. Other people
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: say the wedding is too formal and they don't want
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: to dress up or have more formal dinner like what
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: the venue offers. What are you talking about?
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: It's a wedding. Dress up.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: No one wants a nice dinner.
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: Everyone wants to come in like sandals and swim trunks.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: The two of us would never tell anyone what to wear.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: But people are reacting to the venue because it's a
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: more upscale place.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: You don't have anything nice and proper to wear? Don't come.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Also, many of the same people who are complaining about
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: children not being invited say our wedding is too formal
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: or too late in the day. They want us to
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: move the time and have a less formal atmosphere.
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: I'm starting to have these people making demands saying, no, no.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I would ask them, do you think we're going to
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: change it? You know what?
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: You asked so nicely. We are going to change everything
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: for you.
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: Really? No.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: It's like we want your wedding to be less nice
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: and we want all our kids to run around.
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: Also, change the time for us. The kids get a
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: little tired around sunset anyway.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Again, this is, and I'll always say this, weddings are
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: for you. Weddings are for you and your partner. Who cares?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: It's like I understand to some level if it's like, yeah,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: you want the people that you love in your life
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: to be able to celebrate this, you know, momentous occasion.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: But do that later.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Do it exactly how you want to do it first.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Just you guys. And then do the next one. Then
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: do the one that costs money and you got to
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: have people and you got to have the venue and
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: you got to do this and you got to do that.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: And then if everyone goes, we don't like it. We
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: want it to be worse. You can go, well, whatever.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: We're already married and we had our perfect marriage. We
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: had our perfect wedding, just the two of us. So
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: we'll do whatever they want because we don't really have
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: to care that much.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, no, I won't say it. Keep going.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: We've had people, which mainly are both sets of parents,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: offer to pay for the wedding so they can change
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: things to what they want. It is not just one
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: person complaining, it is several, including some siblings. All of
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: it is maddening. We have told them all we are
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: not changing the wedding. We don't want to elope, so
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: please don't suggest it or give any advice. We were
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: clear that if anyone doesn't like what we're doing for
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the ceremony or reception, they can just decline our invitation.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I just can't believe how entitled some people are. I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: would pass away out of embarrassment if I ever tried
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: to tell someone they had to change their wedding to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: what I wanted it To be. I didn't think our
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: wedding would be so controversial, but here we are. I'm
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: just here to vent about how entitled some people are.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: It's our wedding. If we want to have a formal
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: wedding at sunset, that's what we'll do. There's nothing wrong
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: with a couple having the wedding they want if they're
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: paying for it. People have some nerve telling others to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: change their wedding. What do you guys think? Easy.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: I said all the time, your wedding, your rules. Oh,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: you don't like my rules? Don't play the game. Don't
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: come to the wedding.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: It's pretty normal, dude. Why don't you want to elope?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I've heard the excuse. Not the excuse. I've heard the reasoning.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: I like OP. They're like, OP and his partner are like, no. Oh,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: you have a problem with us?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, your parents want to pay for this? My parents
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: want to pay for this? Cool.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: Pay for their wedding. If they want to have another wedding.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: To do it at this time, at this venue. To
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: dress up that way. This is our wedding.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: I love it. The advice is, keep doing what you're doing, OP.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: Stay on your ground.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Seven months later, my wife and I did not budge
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and we had the wedding we wanted. I couldn't believe
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: that anyone would get so angry about someone else's wedding.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just one person or a handful of people.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of complaints. And my wife and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I were surprised at how entitled some people were being.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: We just got back from our honeymoon and some people
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: are still upset with us.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: That's crazy. Be like, cool.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: We just got married, had a honeymoon. Hey, you know,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: it's over now, right?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can let that go. We ignored anyone who
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: complained or decided not to come to our wedding, but
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: we are both glad we didn't cave to the pressure
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: and kept things the way we wanted. It was the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: perfect day, and we have no regrets. We had our
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: ceremony at sunset. It took less than 15 minutes. Then
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: we had dinner and a short reception. Our entire wedding,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: the ceremony, dinner, and reception lasted four and a half hours.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: We got married locally, so no one had to pay
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: for flights or hotels. We hired a taxi service to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: provide free transportation to and from the wedding for anyone
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: who wanted it. We had an open bar and free food.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: That's all you need to provide for me? I'm happy.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: People are complaining like, oh my gosh, sunset wedding, fun venue,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: free food, open bar.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: I'm still going to complain.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling, and I hope that it's true,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: that you didn't say that to all of them. Because
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you knew that they would just go, oh, yeah, okay, whatever.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: If there's free food and free drinks, I'll come. So
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: you just wanted to have the people who actually wanted
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: to show up for your wedding there. That's the move.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: That's a very good move.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: We got married on a Saturday, so none of our
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: guests would have to take time off work. My wife
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: and I nearly had all our photos taken before the ceremony.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: So we only needed to do a couple of photos
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: with our families. And there wasn't a delay between the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: ceremony and dinner. We told our family and friends we
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: didn't want gifts. We didn't pressure anyone to attend if
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to. We thought we were being relaxed
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: about things, but it wasn't enough for some people.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: This is great.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think I've unlocked, we've all collectively unlocked the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: new wedding technique.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: Of Don't tell anyone what's happening.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Just don't tell them that the food and drink is free.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like that idea. You know what, to the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: people who didn't complain, this is our treat to you.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: or didn't want to come, our treat to you.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: The complaints were related to the venue having a policy
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that all guests had to be above legal drinking age,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: the venue being upscale and formal, and the wedding being
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: so late in the day. People were upset that they
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: couldn't bring their children because the venue only allows people
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: who are 18 and older. People were upset about having
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to dress up. People thought the late time and formal
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: dinner were not child-friendly.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: Gee, I wonder effing why. Wait, you mean to tell
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: me the childless venue is not child-friendly?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Oh!
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: It's like, is there no universe in which you can
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: have your kids watch for four and a half hours?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Six hours of babysitting?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: It's just like fully impossible?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: Anything's possible if it's Popsicle.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: We had so much pressure to get married somewhere else
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: or have the wedding earlier in the day. I still
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: can't believe how entitled people were about our wedding. How
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: do you tell someone else what to do for their
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: own wedding? And that is the end of that story.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: Dumb. Shut up.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah. You go... Hey, passive aggressive group chat. Everyone
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: needs to stop with the opinions. Our wedding is happening
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the way we want it. We don't care if you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: don't like it. Don't come. Thank you.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: Those all sound like wonderful ideas for your wedding.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Go hang out with your kids and watch Caillou if
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: you want. And that's the end of the story.