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Derez De'Shon Breaks Down Inventing "Pain Music", Rod Wave Collab, & Surviving 2 Truck Sh**tings · The Baller Alert Show

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Speaker 1: Before I actually really became the Reds to shine, platinum record,
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Speaker 1: all that, I used to be afraid to become successful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. That's after the truck got shot up.
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Speaker 2: That's when it had to be.
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Speaker 3: Your truck got shot up?
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Speaker 2: Twice in one night.
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Speaker 1: They didn't complete the mission the first time, followed me
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Speaker 1: and tried to do it the second time, and still
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Speaker 1: didn't finish.
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Speaker 4: Previous, the Reds to shine, you were more angry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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Speaker 5: You hear a lot of healing.
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Speaker 6: One of the valuable lessons that you learned about been
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Speaker 6: in this business? Because you've been in record deals and
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Speaker 6: things of that nature. Now back to the PJ. When
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Speaker 6: you were on the PJ, how was your feeling when
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Speaker 6: you was.
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Speaker 1: Going on it? Oh, we was arguing. Me and my
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Speaker 1: man was- Well, y'all was arguing on the- Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: I'm like, boy, you don't run shit.
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Speaker 2: Who you firing?
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Speaker 7: Now, what's this clip going online about your lady cheated
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Speaker 7: on you, and then you made a song?
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Speaker 8: Is this legit, or is this content?
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Speaker 1: Which one?
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say this.
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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, what's happening? It's your boy, The Reddition,
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Speaker 1: the Southside God. I'm not okay, but album out right now.
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Speaker 1: And I'm coming up next on Baller Alert. The Reddition.
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Speaker 7: Broadcasting live from the Nagel Law Firm Studios.
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Speaker 8: Welcome to the Ball Alert Show. I'm Ferrari Simmons.
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Speaker 1: I'm You Know BT.
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Speaker 5: I'm Big Caleb.
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Speaker 10: Southside Clayco in the building. What's up?
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Speaker 1: What's happening?
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Speaker 3: What's up, bro?
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Speaker 1: Chilling, chilling.
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Speaker 8: So you got no shirt today?
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Speaker 2: No shirt.
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Speaker 8: You big boy mode.
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Speaker 1: I'm exercising the fact that I'm a little overweight, but
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Speaker 1: nobody's perfect.
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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: My show was wanted. I was like, what the hell?
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Speaker 1: What the hell? Your shirt.
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Speaker 8: What the hell?
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Speaker 10: Hey, we outside.
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Speaker 8: Straight artist mode.
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, do you consider yourself a singer?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 8: Artist. I do everything.
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Speaker 2: I can do it all.
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Speaker 3: Art.
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Speaker 7: I do art. I feel like in his genre, he
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Speaker 7: can kind of explore the R & B method of
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Speaker 7: no shirt.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try.
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Speaker 8: Because he sings slick.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm going to do that. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: get y'all on and be out too soon.
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Speaker 3: Man, you can only do that when you got jewelry.
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Speaker 8: Because who we had in here?
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Speaker 6: When you ain't got no jewelry, don't be walking around
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Speaker 6: with a damn, with your shirt out.
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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what's crazy? Moray told me the same thing.
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Speaker 1: For real? He was like, your beard different from my beard.
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Speaker 1: You got the tattoos and the jewelry, bro. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: You can hold it at all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I saw DeRozan, like, in the fucking airport. We were
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Speaker 7: on the, I just was like, dog, I just knew
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Speaker 7: it was him because he had all his jewelry on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't put my, I ain't scanning it. I
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Speaker 1: ain't putting it on the plane.
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Speaker 8: You wore it. Yeah, I'm aware.
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Speaker 3: They be stealing jewelry at the airport.
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Speaker 2: I ain't going.
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Speaker 8: When our partner's jewelry got stolen.
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Speaker 1: Whatever show I got that day will be canceled, and
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Speaker 1: I ain't leaving the airport until my jewelry come back.
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Speaker 3: You know, some airports will tell you to take your.
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Speaker 5: Watch off and, They're trying to make you do all that.
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Speaker 11: They ain't got a little bit more lenience since they
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Speaker 11: started letting you keep your shoes on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh, they let you keep your shoes on?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Oh, they do?
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Speaker 5: Certain airports.
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Speaker 8: Certain airports. Depends on the airport.
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Speaker 5: Like Atlanta airport, for sure.
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Speaker 2: Nah.
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Speaker 1: I ain't.
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Speaker 2: They been making me tight, man.
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Speaker 1: For real?
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Speaker 8: You probably just been like. Man, you got to get
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Speaker 8: TSA pre-checked.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they doing it. Oh, yeah. I need to do that.
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Speaker 1: You don't got pre-checked?
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Speaker 2: I got, what is going on? Yeah, clear.
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Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 8: Okay. I didn't know they said both.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know they make you take your shoes off
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Speaker 1: when you go through clear. Yeah.
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Speaker 8: I know this is going to sound bougie.
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Speaker 7: I'm paying for whatever is going to get me through
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Speaker 7: the line faster.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I ain't know. I ain't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 3: Man, I got digital ID. I got everything. And people
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Speaker 3: be worried about like, oh, well, they scan your face.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, brother.
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Speaker 8: They're scanning your face anyway.
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Speaker 3: Brother, they already got everything.
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Speaker 8: I don't know what y'all hiding, but they already got everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hot there. When you walked out of the street,
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Speaker 2: face scanned.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they already got you.
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Speaker 8: So what's up, man?
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Speaker 3: What you been working on?
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Speaker 1: Man, in all honesty, I just been working on... My spirituality,
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Speaker 1: my peace, my family.
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Speaker 10: You're summoning somebody.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: That's what I've been on.
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Speaker 2: I just left from doing some spiritual work before I
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Speaker 2: got here.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: If I was late, I'm sorry. My bad. But I
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Speaker 2: had to get some things right.
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Speaker 3: You were right on time.
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Speaker 8: We got to be here anyway.
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Speaker 7: We got to be here anyway.
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Speaker 8: I told man, I said, we here anyway.
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Speaker 1: It's all good.
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Speaker 3: We got to be here anyway.
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Speaker 1: We on the radio, too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my bad. My bad.
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Speaker 8: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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Speaker 8: I already know you.
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Speaker 11: So, Blackman, how's your spirit since you've been doing the work?
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I ain't even going to lie. Right now,
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Speaker 1: at this exact moment, I feel real relieved. I feel lighter.
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Speaker 1: I feel energetic. I'm anxious for something. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what it is.
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Speaker 2: I'm just ready.
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Speaker 11: You know, when you're getting ready to, like, unveil the
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Speaker 11: ending of a transition, that's when you start getting eager.
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Speaker 11: You just have to make sure that your pivot is
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Speaker 11: still strategic. So just keep staying consistent with the work
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Speaker 11: that you're doing. Because let me tell you, I'm not okay, but.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You did. You still there.
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Speaker 11: Let me tell you, to hear, like, listening to the album,
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Speaker 11: because I've been doing my due diligence, too, about just, like,
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Speaker 11: because I'm captivated.
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Speaker 5: And I talked about this before about the sound. And
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Speaker 5: then I listened to what you're saying.
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Speaker 11: Let me tell you, I hear a lot of growth. Like,
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Speaker 11: I can tell you're still healing, for sure. You can tell,
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Speaker 11: I'm going to break you down.
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Speaker 5: Real quick, if that's okay with you.
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Speaker 1: I'm with it.
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Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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Speaker 5: Relationally, you've been laid down.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 5: You've definitely deceived.
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Speaker 11: Friendships, you can tell that people have not followed through
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Speaker 11: and executed on the commitments that they have made, the
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Speaker 11: promises that were given. I can tell that you just
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Speaker 11: went through a very, very difficult season, mentally and emotionally.
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Speaker 11: And I think when you pivot, and them finances get
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Speaker 11: to a certain point, people, they start to show who
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Speaker 11: they really are to you. And I can tell all
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Speaker 11: of that simply from listening to the album.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 11: But I love the way you articulated it, though, because
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Speaker 11: previous The Rest of.
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Speaker 5: Shine, you were more angry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
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Speaker 11: You hear a lot of healing, like me versus me.
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Speaker 11: When I'm listening to that, it's like, number one, I
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Speaker 11: commend you for accepting.
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Speaker 5: Yes, but it's like.
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Speaker 8: You pissed off.
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Speaker 4: But it's not, his me versus me is not angry.
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Speaker 11: Like, the first thing you mentioned is accountability, and you
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Speaker 11: got to know, I love that.
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Speaker 8: I love me some accountability.
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Speaker 2: That's what I've been doing lately.
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Speaker 1: I've been taking, and I can't lie, you know, practicing
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Speaker 1: if I got me that, it got me taking accountability
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Speaker 1: and learning, like, I know I'm wrong.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I can't hide it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, somebody know, you know what I'm saying? The
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Speaker 2: truth going to.
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Speaker 1: Come out, so I'm just like, hey, man, I'm taking
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Speaker 1: more accountability. I'm taking responsibility. I'm actually being a voice
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Speaker 1: for sure. Like, I'm watching what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I'm making sure what I'm saying can be understood.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 5: Yes, because comprehension is so important.
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Speaker 1: Whether I'm having a regular convo, whether I'm doing music,
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Speaker 1: whether I'm talking to kids, whether I'm doing a podcast interview, whatever.
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Speaker 2: I want to make sure you understand what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I am taking accountability for all the things I did.
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Speaker 7: In 2018, when you record Pain, did you think that
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Speaker 7: you were creating the Pain genre?
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Speaker 1: Nah, I actually thought, I actually had a lot of doubts.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Because everybody was like.
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Speaker 8: Of your particular style of music?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of my music. I didn't know what it was
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Speaker 1: going to do. I wasn't sure of.
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Speaker 7: To me, it seemed like it came from the album,
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Speaker 7: and it was a lot of different versions of you
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Speaker 7: that came after that.
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Speaker 8: Yeah. But in particularly, it was pain music, and your
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Speaker 8: debut project was called Pain.
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Speaker 2: Facts.
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Speaker 7: Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, in the comments, whoever,
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Speaker 7: I can't remember hearing another version or a version of
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Speaker 7: your type of style of music, pain music, before the
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Speaker 7: Pain project.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.
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Speaker 2: Totally, 100%.
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Speaker 8: Because then I heard Moray. Then I heard Rod Wave.
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Speaker 7: Then I heard a plethora of other people implementing pain
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Speaker 7: into what they already had going on. So when you
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Speaker 7: hear other artists' music, you'll hear.
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Speaker 8: A pain record on their projects.
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Speaker 1: You got to hear. Your shit is all pain.
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Speaker 2: It's all.
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Speaker 1: Upset. I'm stressed out.
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Speaker 10: God help me.
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Speaker 8: God, why? It's all these things going on.
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Speaker 10: Did you really understand the significance.
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Speaker 8: Of what you were recording when you recorded pain?
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Speaker 1: Nah.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: If I could unintentionally go back to my old self
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Speaker 1: and tell myself, I would definitely say, hey, bro, trust me.
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Speaker 8: Hercules. I'm just going over some things on there, bro.
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Speaker 8: You got a song called Hercules. Crazy. No Love Lost.
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Speaker 2: Crazy.
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Speaker 8: Hardaway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Remember you did the Remus with DJ Envy? Uh-huh. Shout
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Speaker 8: out to Envy. What up, Envy? Fed Up. That's literally
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Speaker 8: a song that I use to clean up in the house.
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Speaker 3: That's real.
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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 7: It's literally in my playlist. My wife, my kids, we
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Speaker 7: know the words to that song.
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Speaker 8: We sing together.
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Speaker 1: That's what's up.
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Speaker 2: We love each other all the time. That's what's up.
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Speaker 5: You know, my cut is same way.
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Speaker 8: Pain is love is crazy, too, though.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Bro, you had so many records on here, fam.
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Speaker 6: How does that make you feel, though, with the birth
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Speaker 6: of a lot of artists that kind of sound like you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I honestly don't have any specific feelings towards the situation itself,
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Speaker 1: but when it comes up, I'm like, it feel good
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Speaker 1: to be able to know that If I didn't do
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Speaker 1: anything I inspired people to be more real with they
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Speaker 1: self or to get it off you know what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying like to be able to go in there and
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Speaker 1: say what they say because I'm looking at it as
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Speaker 1: when I do it it's therapy you know what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying so if I'm helping another man regardless of him
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Speaker 1: being an artist or whatever he doing if I'm helping
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Speaker 1: him therapeutically by speaking they mind, then I love it.
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling like I'm doing what God want me to do.
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Speaker 6: Now, do you feel like you should have coined, like,
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Speaker 6: crowned yourself like, I'm the pain artist?
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I do it now. You know, I was
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Speaker 1: so quiet and humble.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why it was more and more and more
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Speaker 2: and more, and now.
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Speaker 1: You got somebody that they quote-unquote think, you know, is
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Speaker 1: the one, but it's me. Never been the two. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: He said it.
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Speaker 3: He said it. Now, why haven't we kind of seen
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Speaker 3: some collabs with some of those artists? Because y'all do have.
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Speaker 8: You have a record with Moray, right?
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 1: On the new album, I got a record with me, Moray,
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Speaker 1: and T-Rell.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, T-Rell is the other one. What up, T-Rell? But
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Speaker 8: are we ever going to see a ride wave with
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Speaker 8: the rest?
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Speaker 2: I'm with it. I'm waiting for it. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: speak it into his ear.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming.
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Speaker 3: It's going to happen.
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Speaker 8: That's what I like to hear.
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Speaker 1: It's going to happen.
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Speaker 8: Thanks. My bad, BT.
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Speaker 7: Before he blew up, then wasn't he more so not
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Speaker 7: reaching out to you?
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Speaker 1: I think in the beginning, before any of us was
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Speaker 1: where we are today, I think we was kind of
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Speaker 1: like our circles maybe have been.
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Speaker 8: Trying to make a collab happen?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 7: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I think like his brother, you know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: everybody say they brothers and stuff, but I know his
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Speaker 1: brother was working with a DJ, I believe, at Blue
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Speaker 1: River or something, and we tried to set something up. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Now, you spoke earlier about E5s. That's something that you've
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Speaker 6: been practicing?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Been practicing going on like five years now.
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Speaker 3: Now, I feel like E5 has become really popular in Atlanta.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It has. But I think some people doing it for
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Speaker 2: the wrong reasons.
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Speaker 1: I do it because it's like the closest I think
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Speaker 1: that I've ever been to God spiritually than anything else
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Speaker 1: that I've ever tried. But shout out to everybody that
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Speaker 1: do their thing. But it's just I feel real closer.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm actually getting closer. The answers that
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Speaker 1: I need, the understanding that I need, I'm understanding why
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Speaker 1: I'm this way and that way. I'm understanding myself better.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I'm understanding people differently. So
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Speaker 1: some people do it for the wrong reason, but, you know,
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're going to pay
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Speaker 1: for that.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Now, what's one of the valuable lessons that you learned
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Speaker 6: about being in this business? Because you've been in, you know,
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Speaker 6: record deals and things of that nature.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. A valuable lesson I learned is learn the business.
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Speaker 1: Actually know what you're doing. You're a product. Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: this person, you're this human or this machine or whatever
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Speaker 1: you want to call yourself, but it's still a business.
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Speaker 1: So the most valuable lesson I learned is actually be
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Speaker 1: involved in your business and learn your business.
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Speaker 2: Know what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: So you don't be mad when you make $ 100 million,
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Speaker 1: but you only get 10 or, You don't know how
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Speaker 1: many dollars you make on the stream, so how you
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Speaker 1: going to feel away with this person or that person. Like,
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Speaker 1: if you don't know your business, if you don't know
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Speaker 1: what you're doing, you will be frustrated. I was frustrated
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Speaker 1: in the beginning, but now I got everything pretty much together.
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Speaker 1: So learning business, the most valuable.
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Speaker 6: So you was more frustrated about, like, where my money going?
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Speaker 6: Or who got paid for this?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was frustrated because, for one, I used to see, like,
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Speaker 1: and I don't feel a way, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: I went through what I went through, and, like, again,
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Speaker 1: I take accountability for the position I'm in right now.
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Speaker 1: But I used to watch other artists I was cool
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Speaker 1: with at the time. Like, how the hell a bro got,
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Speaker 1: you know, not pocket watching, just wondering, like, damn. So
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Speaker 1: I had to be coming to open up for me.
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Speaker 1: How the fuck he riding around and da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and he
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Speaker 1: got this much money. How he got a million in
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Speaker 1: the book bag? Then I started looking at what was
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Speaker 1: going on around me like, hmm, this person got this
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Speaker 1: on my team. This person got this on my team.
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Speaker 1: I thought this was supposed to be going on, but
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Speaker 1: this is what's going on. So I started paying attention.
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Speaker 1: So now what I'm thinking of what I thought was
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Speaker 1: supposed to be done by, let's just say, I was
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Speaker 1: with commission. I thought commission was supposed to pay for this.
14:47
Speaker 2: It's really me.
14:48
Speaker 1: Or I'm going to have to pay it back. I
14:50
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Or let's say my manager say, oh,
14:53
Speaker 1: all the show money, we're going to use the front
14:56
Speaker 1: for business and we're going to put the back in
14:57
Speaker 1: your pocket. But then when you're using the front for
15:00
Speaker 1: other things other than the business and I still got
15:02
Speaker 1: to come out the back to pay for business, I'm confused.
15:05
Speaker 1: Because if I got a million in the safe, it
15:07
Speaker 1: should be a million in the front, you know what
15:08
Speaker 1: I'm saying, for the business.
15:10
Speaker 2: So, it was like that. Like, I learned through that.
15:13
Speaker 5: You feel like you really trusted.
15:14
Speaker 2: And I was frustrated. Like, nigga.
15:16
Speaker 11: Yeah.
15:17
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
15:19
Speaker 2: Like, I'll never forget one time.
15:20
Speaker 8: Because this shit come at a cost.
15:21
Speaker 1: It do.
15:22
Speaker 2: I'll never forget one time, right?
15:25
Speaker 1: It got to a point where I think the most
15:28
Speaker 1: shows I did in a day was four.
15:29
Speaker 2: Like, four shows back to back.
15:31
Speaker 1: And it was like some afternoon stuff all the way
15:34
Speaker 1: up until later on that night. And my manager at
15:38
Speaker 1: the time booked a P.J., Now, in my mind.
15:43
Speaker 2: I ain't paying for this. You know what I'm saying?
15:45
Speaker 3: Right?
15:45
Speaker 2: Because you didn't ask me.
15:46
Speaker 1: I don't know.
15:47
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying?
15:48
Speaker 5: I wasn't aware.
15:49
Speaker 1: I was not aware. You just tell me, pull up
15:51
Speaker 1: to the thing, and we get on the plane, and
15:53
Speaker 1: we dip. So we went from Atlanta, I want to
15:57
Speaker 1: say to Florida, to Philly, back to Florida. You feel me?
16:02
Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
16:03
Speaker 2: So when I get back, you know what I'm saying?
16:05
Speaker 1: And the craziest thing about that, too, he fired my
16:07
Speaker 1: DJ on that flight and didn't say nothing either. So,
16:10
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying? It's stuff I didn't know.
16:11
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated with my DJ. He done told my DJ
16:13
Speaker 1: he fired. I'm calling him, hey, bro, where you at?
16:16
Speaker 1: You ain't taking this shit seriously. Bro, I got fired.
16:18
Speaker 1: Who fired you? But we in the plane. We on
16:20
Speaker 1: the plane now.
16:21
Speaker 5: You in the air.
16:22
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
16:22
Speaker 1: So, now we going back and forth and then later
16:25
Speaker 1: down the line, oh, yeah, how much you think that
16:29
Speaker 1: PJ cost? Nigga, who told you to pay for it?
16:34
Speaker 1: Why did you overbook me and then spend my money
16:36
Speaker 1: for me?
16:37
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
16:38
Speaker 2: It was a lot of that going on, like.
16:40
Speaker 11: Do you think mentally, how did you navigate that first part?
16:45
Speaker 11: Because I'm sure it was a shock when you had
16:47
Speaker 11: to take it all in.
16:48
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. At first, I wanted to do some things.
16:51
Speaker 8: You wanted to hurt somebody.
16:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
16:52
Speaker 2: I probably would not be here right now.
16:54
Speaker 1: Don't count.
16:55
Speaker 2: I was ready to go there. Shout out to Rocky.
16:58
Speaker 2: He stopped me. It was in motion. He stopped me.
17:01
Speaker 2: He was like, and I'm going to tell you what
17:02
Speaker 2: he said.
17:02
Speaker 1: He said, bro, you still got a chance to be
17:06
Speaker 1: the red, the sun, the legend, the superstar. But if
17:10
Speaker 1: you go with this move, you're going to be the
17:12
Speaker 1: nigga at McDonald's who they be like, oh, you used
17:14
Speaker 1: to be the red sun. If you get out and
17:16
Speaker 1: get a job. And that shit, I had to.
17:20
Speaker 5: When you process that.
17:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:22
Speaker 5: It's being your ultimatum. Like, where did your mind go?
17:26
Speaker 2: Man, to my kids.
17:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.
17:28
Speaker 1: Because more than anything, I don't ever want them to
17:31
Speaker 1: think I used to be nothing.
17:32
Speaker 8: Right.
17:32
Speaker 11: I am that.
17:33
Speaker 1: I am that. I'm daddy.
17:35
Speaker 2: I'm your protector.
17:37
Speaker 7: Yeah.
17:38
Speaker 2: Whatever you need me to be, I'm there. I'm that.
17:41
Speaker 5: Yeah.
17:41
Speaker 2: Yeah.
17:41
Speaker 11: I love that.
17:42
Speaker 5: I love that accountability.
17:43
Speaker 11: So you were preceding the accountability. You kind of like
17:47
Speaker 11: overindulging in.
17:48
Speaker 5: Now you had it. Then that was your start.
17:50
Speaker 2: That was the start.
17:51
Speaker 3: Yeah.
17:52
Speaker 1: That's right. I had to put it all on the
17:53
Speaker 1: table and realize today is not going to look like
17:57
Speaker 1: tomorrow by a simple decision you make today.
18:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
18:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now back to the PJ.
18:03
Speaker 8: When you were on.
18:05
Speaker 6: The PJ, how was your feeling when you was going
18:09
Speaker 6: on it?
18:09
Speaker 1: Oh, we was arguing. Wait, y'all was arguing on the PJ? Yeah,
18:12
Speaker 1: because I'm like, bro, you don't run shit. Who you firing?
18:15
Speaker 3: Oh, your DJ text you like.
18:17
Speaker 1: Nah, we late. I'm late.
18:18
Speaker 2: I was late. So he should have been there.
18:23
Speaker 5: Right, right, right.
18:24
Speaker 1: So when I get there, I'm on his ass. Yeah,
18:27
Speaker 1: I'm on his ass.
18:27
Speaker 3: Boy, where you at?
18:28
Speaker 1: Boy, I see you can't be higher. Everybody else the superstar. Nigga,
18:31
Speaker 1: I'm the star higher. I can be like, you can't
18:32
Speaker 1: be like he. Nigga, I got fired. I said, who
18:36
Speaker 1: the hell fired you? I ain't fired you. I don't
18:40
Speaker 1: want to say by the name, but you know what
18:42
Speaker 1: I'm saying? You know, he like shouted, said, woo, woo, woo.
18:44
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, bro, my bad. I'm going
18:48
Speaker 1: to get with you when I get back. hang up,
18:51
Speaker 1: me and him arguing, nigga, who you think you is, bruh? Like,
18:54
Speaker 1: you managed, nigga, you don't run, you know what I'm saying? So,
18:59
Speaker 1: whatever happened, I can't really remember, it was so long ago,
19:01
Speaker 1: but we go do what we do, we do the shows,
19:06
Speaker 1: I get back, and I'm just like, you know, at
19:09
Speaker 1: the moment, excited, I never been on a PJ, especially
19:12
Speaker 1: not something like how I'm doing it, I got my
19:16
Speaker 1: niggas with me, you know what I'm saying? And I
19:18
Speaker 1: ain't never been on a plane, a plane, You feel me?
19:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
19:21
Speaker 1: Let alone a P.J. So it was, I enjoyed the experience,
19:25
Speaker 1: but later in life, I'm like, hey, hold on, wait, whoa, what?
19:29
Speaker 1: You like, how much was that P.J.? Bro, it costed
19:32
Speaker 1: $ 10, 000 to go here, $ 20, 000 to go there. Bro, who
19:35
Speaker 1: in the hell thought that I wanted to pay that?
19:38
Speaker 2: Bro, we could have.
19:39
Speaker 6: And y'all could have all been first class.
19:41
Speaker 1: Whole team could have been first class.
19:42
Speaker 8: Whole team workers.
19:44
Speaker 1: Even me, and at that time, I'm like, bro, we
19:46
Speaker 1: could have broke these boogers down, brother. Like, we could
19:49
Speaker 1: have took two here. Next week took two. Like, why
19:52
Speaker 1: you want to do four all of them in one day?
19:54
Speaker 1: You greedy.
19:55
Speaker 2: You doing too much. And did you think about me?
19:57
Speaker 1: Like, I'm going to have to perform here, get off here,
20:00
Speaker 1: get on this plane, go to hell, perform, get off,
20:02
Speaker 1: do the same thing.
20:02
Speaker 2: Like, bro, you didn't think about me, did you? At once.
20:05
Speaker 2: But a lot of frustration came from that.
20:08
Speaker 11: Like, What did you learn to do differently now with
20:11
Speaker 11: the people who you entrust to oversee your vision as
20:15
Speaker 11: an artist?
20:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
20:16
Speaker 2: It's Manny.
20:17
Speaker 1: It's Manny. That's what I'm saying. I've learned this business
20:21
Speaker 1: because of Manny. Manny sit me down and read them 20,
20:26
Speaker 1: 30 pages of contracts and shit to me.
20:29
Speaker 5: Shout out to Manny.
20:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Manny.
20:30
Speaker 1: When I don't want to hear it, hey, man, I
20:32
Speaker 1: keep trying to get you to learn, bro. This what
20:35
Speaker 1: you didn't do in the beginning. That's why you was
20:37
Speaker 1: in the situation you was in. So now he'll call me,
20:40
Speaker 1: no matter what it is. We sit down, we talk,
20:42
Speaker 1: he read it. I don't know what a word means.
20:44
Speaker 1: I'm even learning new vocabulary by sitting down and talking
20:46
Speaker 1: to him.
20:47
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
20:48
Speaker 1: Learning terminology, learning how certain words go before and after
20:52
Speaker 1: certain words mean certain things. So it's like, yeah, now
20:57
Speaker 1: I'm knowing. Manning Carlin. Hey, for example, I'm doing my
21:01
Speaker 1: first festival that I'm headlining, like me, the Reds and Friends.
21:06
Speaker 2: September 19th and 20th. With Atlanta Food Festival.
21:11
Speaker 8: I was going to say, we going to be in Vegas.
21:14
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
21:16
Speaker 2: So with that, look.
21:17
Speaker 1: So look, with that, he telling me like, hey, you
21:19
Speaker 1: got to do the 19th and the 20th. And I
21:22
Speaker 1: think I got to show the 17th as well. But
21:25
Speaker 1: then Texas called like, hey, we want the 18th. And
21:28
Speaker 1: he telling me like, hey, if you do this, you're
21:31
Speaker 1: going to have to do this. You're going to have
21:32
Speaker 1: to go there. You're going to have to catch a
21:34
Speaker 1: layover for two hours here.
21:35
Speaker 2: You're going to have to.
21:35
Speaker 1: Can you do that? Instead of just doing it. And
21:38
Speaker 1: then I miss it. And now we're getting food. You
21:40
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying? So that's how it's happening now.
21:43
Speaker 1: We go over it thoroughly. And if he know I.
21:45
Speaker 2: Can't do something, he ain't even going for it.
21:48
Speaker 1: I could be like, yeah, I can do it. You sure?
21:50
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah.
21:52
Speaker 1: He'll see how the show going on the 17th. He'll
21:55
Speaker 1: be like, nah. Hell nah, we ain't doing all that. No, sir.
21:59
Speaker 7: Nah, it's good to have someone like Manny. I saw
22:03
Speaker 7: how he definitely took you on his wing and embraced
22:07
Speaker 7: you as family.
22:08
Speaker 2: Facts. Family.
22:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:09
Speaker 8: Because I saw that firsthand.
22:11
Speaker 7: I would like to say I'm proud of you, bro,
22:12
Speaker 7: because we've had some private conversations where I.
22:16
Speaker 8: Seen you in a bad mental space.
22:19
Speaker 7: I mean, one time I was DJing, and I had someone,
22:23
Speaker 7: I had to use the restroom in the club. So
22:26
Speaker 7: I had a DJ cover me for like 15 minutes.
22:29
Speaker 7: I'm going to use the restroom. I come back, and
22:31
Speaker 7: I see Durant's. On the side patio, just like this
22:34
Speaker 7: right here, staring off into the sky.
22:37
Speaker 1: You remember that night? I don't know what we was at.
22:39
Speaker 8: We was at 1145.
22:40
Speaker 1: I was out in the back. Duh.
22:42
Speaker 10: You were just staring out into the sky.
22:45
Speaker 11: Hey, man.
22:46
Speaker 10: And I told the DJ, young Fro, I said, Fro,
22:48
Speaker 10: I need you to finish.
22:49
Speaker 8: I got to go talk to the rest.
22:50
Speaker 2: What's going on?
22:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:51
Speaker 10: And we talked for about two hours. The club was over.
22:54
Speaker 8: Lights came on.
22:54
Speaker 1: You remember that night, man?
22:55
Speaker 8: I don't know.
22:57
Speaker 7: But we was outside on the back, and we was
22:59
Speaker 7: just talking about life.
23:00
Speaker 8: But you was telling me about some shit you had
23:02
Speaker 8: going on.
23:03
Speaker 2: It was going on.
23:05
Speaker 8: You was fucked up.
23:05
Speaker 2: The stars had me. They was holding me down. I'm
23:08
Speaker 2: looking up there trying to figure it out.
23:09
Speaker 10: He was just staring at the sky.
23:11
Speaker 5: I ain't going to lie. I would see him on
23:13
Speaker 5: Instagram and stuff.
23:14
Speaker 11: You know how I am. I'm very, like, a spirit person. And, like,
23:18
Speaker 11: that's why I always sing my prayers. Because I could
23:20
Speaker 11: just tell you.
23:22
Speaker 8: Was in it. Oh, okay.
23:26
Speaker 11: I would always see him and I'd just be like, man,
23:29
Speaker 11: I understand that there's not always an environment that's cultivated
23:33
Speaker 11: for men to.
23:34
Speaker 5: Just open up.
23:35
Speaker 11: Especially when you don't know me from a can of paint.
23:37
Speaker 11: And especially when you come from certain different backgrounds, man,
23:41
Speaker 11: trust is hard. And so I think that's what spirituality
23:45
Speaker 11: does is it opens your floodgates to trust.
23:48
Speaker 5: And so for me.
23:49
Speaker 11: that's kind of like how I began to sow my
23:51
Speaker 11: seed when it came to you. That's why I've always
23:53
Speaker 11: been so eager to have a conversation because I knew,
23:56
Speaker 11: I don't know, there's some people where you see them
23:58
Speaker 11: getting a rep and.
23:59
Speaker 5: You know they ain't going to get out of it.
24:01
Speaker 11: And you pray for them, but you just know, but
24:03
Speaker 11: you just have like the spirit of a conqueror. And
24:06
Speaker 11: I think that that's always like been exemplified in your music.
24:10
Speaker 5: And I think in your.
24:11
Speaker 11: Openness to say, you see it. So I've been praying
24:14
Speaker 11: for you for a very long time.
24:15
Speaker 5: That's why I listen to this album.
24:17
Speaker 2: I swear I do.
24:17
Speaker 5: It's like, It's true proudness. Like I hear your growth.
24:21
Speaker 11: You're not angry, sad no more. Cause that's the shit
24:25
Speaker 11: that'll keep you in a box. You're like alignment, your openness,
24:30
Speaker 11: your spiritual sad.
24:31
Speaker 5: Like I understand. I feel this. I'm acknowledging it. but
24:35
Speaker 5: we moving forward.
24:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to.
24:37
Speaker 8: And thank you, bro. You was one of the first
24:38
Speaker 8: artists to rock with me and give me music.
24:40
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
24:41
Speaker 8: You was like one of the early artists that gave
24:42
Speaker 8: me a song. I was like, hey, bro, I need
24:43
Speaker 8: a song.
24:44
Speaker 3: Whatever.
24:44
Speaker 8: All right, here. Already done.
24:47
Speaker 10: I was like, wait.
24:48
Speaker 8: I was like, damn, the Reds gave me a song song.
24:50
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. You know what I'm saying?
24:52
Speaker 8: So I always appreciate that.
24:53
Speaker 3: You feel me?
24:54
Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
24:54
Speaker 10: Out of the albums, I know you got another one
24:56
Speaker 10: for me, right?
24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, man. You know this for every other day. We
25:00
Speaker 2: ain't never tripping.
25:01
Speaker 1: It's for every other day.
25:02
Speaker 8: Send me about two, I can pick.
25:03
Speaker 1: Me too.
25:04
Speaker 11: You remember what Tushar said? He said, man, you be
25:06
Speaker 11: planting them seeds with people you never know.
25:08
Speaker 5: Them relationships are everything.
25:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know.
25:11
Speaker 6: Like, I had a conversation with JD last night about that.
25:14
Speaker 6: We was at Tyler the Creator's pop-up party, and he
25:17
Speaker 6: was just talking about, like, he was talking to me
25:19
Speaker 6: and Lil Yachty, and he was saying, like, relationships, like,
25:24
Speaker 6: People don't understand the power of relationships because the social
25:27
Speaker 6: media makes us so disconnected to where we don't believe
25:30
Speaker 6: in relationships. And JD was like, man, I used to
25:33
Speaker 6: come to parties like this all the time where there
25:35
Speaker 6: was no sections and no phones and everybody's dancing. He's like,
25:38
Speaker 6: that's how I met Lil Jon. Just being out and
25:42
Speaker 6: just having a conversation with somebody that I really don't
25:44
Speaker 6: know and build a relationship with them.
25:47
Speaker 2: And bump right into what you need.
25:50
Speaker 5: Even that, you... By chance, having to go to the restroom.
25:53
Speaker 10: Yeah.
25:54
Speaker 5: Then y'all have that moment.
25:55
Speaker 8: That was an alignment situation.
25:57
Speaker 7: Because if I wouldn't have had to go use the restroom,
25:59
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have saw you, like, staring into the sky.
26:02
Speaker 8: That was, like, y'all.
26:04
Speaker 10: I ain't, ain't nobody. Yeah. Like, y'all, he was like this.
26:09
Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha, ha. Hey, it was many nights like that.
26:14
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this nigga doing? I ain't
26:16
Speaker 1: even into the club. I'm just like, man, what am
26:19
Speaker 1: I doing?
26:19
Speaker 10: No, wait, the party was packed.
26:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:22
Speaker 5: That's how you know, though.
26:24
Speaker 8: Nigga, I was playing Dreams and Nightmares. Yes.
26:27
Speaker 1: This like 2000, maybe 19. I don't know. Yeah.
26:30
Speaker 8: I'm playing Dreams and Nightmares.
26:32
Speaker 1: Hold on.
26:32
Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
26:33
Speaker 8: I got to go pee like a motherfucker.
26:34
Speaker 1: I go pee.
26:35
Speaker 10: I say, what the fuck is Red doing?
26:36
Speaker 3: You were staring at the stars.
26:38
Speaker 8: He was just staring, bro.
26:39
Speaker 4: You know how that's like me when you zone out.
26:42
Speaker 2: I still do that. I look at the sky and
26:44
Speaker 2: get pees, though.
26:45
Speaker 5: Yeah.
26:45
Speaker 1: I sit outside.
26:46
Speaker 2: I look at the sky.
26:47
Speaker 8: You remember that night, though, right?
26:49
Speaker 1: I remember vividly some pieces of them things.
26:52
Speaker 8: You told me about the daughter.
26:54
Speaker 6: Who was upset.
26:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did what I'm saying?
26:56
Speaker 7: Yeah.
26:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember pieces of that.
26:58
Speaker 8: We'll talk.
26:59
Speaker 1: We'll talk.
26:59
Speaker 8: We'll sidebar.
27:00
Speaker 11: I'm happy that you were obedient, too, but I'm also
27:03
Speaker 11: happy to your openness to sit in it. People don't
27:07
Speaker 11: understand the power of the type of men that you
27:09
Speaker 11: guys choose to surround yourself by because- Not everybody makes
27:13
Speaker 11: that a safe space, you know?
27:15
Speaker 5: Like, even you being willing.
27:17
Speaker 8: I had to go check on him. I was just like, damn.
27:18
Speaker 11: You know, some people would have left that bathroom and
27:20
Speaker 11: went straight back to DJing and just been like, fuck it, bro,
27:23
Speaker 11: just looking at the stars, you know?
27:24
Speaker 8: Something's wrong.
27:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. It goes back to relationships.
27:29
Speaker 1: Yes.
27:30
Speaker 6: Relationships go a long way, and sometimes you got to
27:33
Speaker 6: check on your strong friends.
27:34
Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to check on your rich friends.
27:36
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to. Check on people that you think
27:38
Speaker 1: got it all together.
27:39
Speaker 5: Yes.
27:40
Speaker 3: Because we really don't have it all together.
27:41
Speaker 2: No, we don't.
27:42
Speaker 1: I agree.
27:42
Speaker 3: What success you have.
27:43
Speaker 1: Facts.
27:44
Speaker 6: I know richest niggas that you'll be like, why is
27:47
Speaker 6: this nigga always depressed?
27:48
Speaker 1: Facts.
27:49
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying?
27:51
Speaker 10: Nigga, give me your money.
27:52
Speaker 8: But what do they say?
27:53
Speaker 11: More money, more problems. Your problems, you're just in a
27:56
Speaker 11: different category of problems. And I think that that's why
27:59
Speaker 11: y'all acknowledging that amongst each other is so powerful, especially
28:03
Speaker 11: when you're in a particular bracket.
28:05
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
28:06
Speaker 4: Because not everybody's going to think the reason.
28:07
Speaker 5: Some people are too intimidated.
28:09
Speaker 3: Like me.
28:10
Speaker 5: Boy, I don't care who it is.
28:12
Speaker 4: Boy, I'll talk to the president if your spirit off.
28:14
Speaker 5: Hey, you all right? You okay?
28:15
Speaker 11: Because some people are just waiting for that invitation for them.
28:18
Speaker 8: To just say something.
28:19
Speaker 2: Well, I get it. Like, I'm going to be honest
28:21
Speaker 2: with you.
28:22
Speaker 1: Before I actually really, like, became, like, the Red to Shine,
28:27
Speaker 1: Platinum Record, all that, I used to be afraid to
28:31
Speaker 1: become successful. Because my little world was already... All over
28:36
Speaker 1: the place.
28:36
Speaker 10: Yeah.
28:37
Speaker 1: And I knew, like, once I got a little bit
28:40
Speaker 1: of that, like, on the road, and now I'm seeing
28:43
Speaker 1: everybody depend, like, if they wasn't depending on me then,
28:46
Speaker 1: they depending on me now. For sure.
28:48
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
28:49
Speaker 1: And I'm like, shh, man.
28:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
28:52
Speaker 1: If I don't do this show, I can't do this.
28:54
Speaker 1: I got partners that's locked up, like, hey, bro, do
28:56
Speaker 1: this for me.
28:57
Speaker 3: Yep.
28:58
Speaker 1: Man, do this show for this mother fucker, man. They
29:00
Speaker 1: going to throw me something new way. Like, it's like,
29:02
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to do it. It was times
29:06
Speaker 1: where I was like, damn, bro, I'm buying this nigga
29:09
Speaker 1: baby mama. Not his baby mama, but I'm buying this
29:12
Speaker 1: nigga children diapers and baby food and putting groceries in
29:16
Speaker 1: his mama's house. And, you know, tomorrow or next week
29:19
Speaker 1: when that shit run out, he going to ask me again.
29:21
Speaker 7: Yeah.
29:21
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So having that money can
29:24
Speaker 1: make you depressed, like literally. Because when I didn't have it,
29:27
Speaker 1: nigga wasn't asking me to buy no fucking groceries. You
29:31
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
29:31
Speaker 8: That was part of the things we talked about.
29:33
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
29:34
Speaker 12: That night.
29:34
Speaker 1: So, see, it's kind of, yeah, oh, oh, yeah. But
29:37
Speaker 1: that's scary.
29:38
Speaker 8: I know what was really going on.
29:40
Speaker 1: About 2019, bro. Okay, yeah. Can y'all tell us more?
29:43
Speaker 10: Well, without his consent, I will say you was upset.
29:47
Speaker 8: About finding out something about your daughter that pissed you off.
29:50
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:51
Speaker 8: It really bothered you.
29:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:53
Speaker 7: And it was the situation that you did the music
29:55
Speaker 7: about when it was.
29:57
Speaker 2: She keep picking these niggas over me.
29:59
Speaker 9: Yeah.
30:00
Speaker 7: But it was another situation where you almost lost your life.
30:06
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
30:07
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. I know what you're talking about.
30:09
Speaker 8: I guess that just happened.
30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. How many shots after that?
30:12
Speaker 10: That had just happened.
30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:15
Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of days ago. Yeah, I know what
30:17
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
30:18
Speaker 10: And I just so happened to see you looking at
30:20
Speaker 10: the stars.
30:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Now I know where you at
30:23
Speaker 2: with it.
30:23
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:24
Speaker 3: Do you remember?
30:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. That's after the truck got shot up.
30:28
Speaker 2: That's when it had to be.
30:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:29
Speaker 3: Your truck got shot up?
30:30
Speaker 1: Twice in one night. They didn't complete the mission the
30:33
Speaker 1: first time. Followed me and tried to do it the
30:35
Speaker 1: second time and still didn't finish.
30:38
Speaker 5: Because it wasn't meant.
30:39
Speaker 8: I saw him a couple of days after that.
30:40
Speaker 5: It wasn't meant for it to be there.
30:42
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what I tell you. What I tell you
30:43
Speaker 11: is spirit of a conqueror.
30:45
Speaker 8: And he was like, he was like, you wasn't depressed,
30:47
Speaker 8: but you was like, I don't know. Like, you was
30:50
Speaker 8: in a.
30:51
Speaker 2: I was lost, bro.
30:52
Speaker 1: Like, I was so lost because it was like.
30:55
Speaker 8: And then you dropped that song, How Many Shots.
30:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm so lost, right?
30:59
Speaker 8: Go listen to that song, by the way.
31:01
Speaker 1: You got people in my ear telling me one thing,
31:05
Speaker 1: other people in my ear telling me another thing. Then
31:08
Speaker 1: I had to go home and explain to my kids, like, hey,
31:13
Speaker 1: you know, that almost just da-da-da-da-da-da-da. As I'm speaking, it's
31:19
Speaker 1: debris and shit from the bricks hitting, the bullets hitting
31:22
Speaker 1: the bricks in my shirt and shit falling and All
31:26
Speaker 1: kind of, I'm like, God damn, like, all kind of,
31:29
Speaker 1: and I think at that time, I just found out
31:31
Speaker 1: my daughter was having sex and everything.
31:32
Speaker 2: She was a looker.
31:33
Speaker 8: I didn't want to say it.
31:34
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying? Like, all this started happening.
31:36
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, my baby ain't even, what, what is
31:39
Speaker 1: you doing?
31:39
Speaker 2: So, you know what I'm saying?
31:41
Speaker 8: I'm just all over the place. That was the conversation
31:43
Speaker 8: we had. Yeah.
31:44
Speaker 1: Okay.
31:44
Speaker 11: Yeah.
31:44
Speaker 2: So now it's coming to me.
31:45
Speaker 8: See what I'm saying? I was the first person you
31:47
Speaker 8: spoke to. Yeah.
31:48
Speaker 1: Cause I ain't know what to do. And get with it.
31:49
Speaker 1: And now I'm a granddad. And I had that same feeling.
31:52
Speaker 1: I probably was standing at the start of the end,
31:54
Speaker 1: but I ain't had nobody to talk to me then.
31:57
Speaker 1: So that's what I had to do. I just had
32:00
Speaker 1: to accept it and pull up to the hospital and
32:02
Speaker 1: be like, y'all niggas going to call me G-Dad.
32:06
Speaker 2: Not granddaddy, not papa.
32:08
Speaker 1: They can't call you papa. No. I ain't old enough
32:12
Speaker 1: for that word.
32:13
Speaker 8: I know that, right.
32:14
Speaker 1: You can call me G-Dad.
32:16
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
32:16
Speaker 8: Yeah.
32:17
Speaker 2: But, yeah, no, I do now. Yeah, it's all coming back.
32:20
Speaker 11: I was lost, bro. When you look back and you
32:22
Speaker 11: reminisce on the heaviness that you probably, like, were in
32:26
Speaker 11: and existing in in that moment talking to him and
32:29
Speaker 11: now talking to him now, how.
32:31
Speaker 5: Do you feel?
32:32
Speaker 1: Bro, I can't believe I made it through that situation.
32:35
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I can even find a way
32:37
Speaker 1: to smile today. Like, thinking about it now is kind
32:40
Speaker 1: of like, damn, I did do that. I did go
32:43
Speaker 1: through that. I was in a dark-ass place. And I
32:46
Speaker 1: can't believe that now I'm, like, full of joy. I'm
32:50
Speaker 1: seeking love. Hold on.
32:51
Speaker 7: Wait.
32:51
Speaker 1: Let me clarify that, though.
32:55
Speaker 7: I'm going to interrupt you a little bit because I
32:57
Speaker 7: want to say, what was it, last year?
32:59
Speaker 8: What happened? What was going on when you dyed your hair, fam?
33:02
Speaker 1: Oh, man, that was for mental health. I did that
33:05
Speaker 1: because who would be bolder than me?
33:06
Speaker 2: I'm that guy.
33:07
Speaker 8: Okay.
33:07
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
33:08
Speaker 8: Okay.
33:08
Speaker 1: Them colors, every color I had in my hair meant
33:11
Speaker 1: something for mental health.
33:12
Speaker 2: For me, it's mental health.
33:13
Speaker 8: I was scrolling. I was like, what the hell he
33:15
Speaker 8: got going on? I had some shit going on, so
33:18
Speaker 8: I just kept scrolling.
33:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was difficult.
33:20
Speaker 8: He said, I had some shit going on.
33:22
Speaker 1: I had some shit.
33:23
Speaker 8: He was on me.
33:24
Speaker 1: He said, hold up.
33:25
Speaker 8: My shit fucked up.
33:26
Speaker 1: Hey, my shit fucked up right now, too.
33:27
Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on. I ain't even getting
33:29
Speaker 8: a give right now.
33:30
Speaker 1: You know what?
33:31
Speaker 8: And that's good.
33:32
Speaker 1: Sometimes people got money.
33:33
Speaker 8: I know you had some shit going on.
33:35
Speaker 1: That's why you got to be like, Let me keep scrolling.
33:42
Speaker 1: Let me keep going.
33:43
Speaker 11: And you know what? You can love people, but not
33:46
Speaker 11: everybody is always your assignment. So it's like, you know,
33:49
Speaker 11: sometimes you got to let God be God.
33:51
Speaker 8: And let God take people through stuff.
33:52
Speaker 1: I'm learning that right now. I really said, what the
33:54
Speaker 1: hell is that right now? And then I just was like,
33:57
Speaker 1: I get out of it. I did it for mental health.
33:59
Speaker 1: It was Men's Mental Health Month. And I was like,
34:02
Speaker 1: what can I do as an artist to.
34:06
Speaker 5: Bring light to that.
34:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, like bring light to that. And for one, make
34:10
Speaker 1: people ask, what y'all got going on? So now when
34:14
Speaker 1: you ask me what I got going on, obviously it
34:16
Speaker 1: look like I'm going through something, right? Obviously this is
34:19
Speaker 1: something I never, ever did and you would never see
34:22
Speaker 1: me doing. So now I can tell you, oh, I
34:24
Speaker 1: did this for Men's Mental Health Month. All these different
34:27
Speaker 1: colors stand for different aura colors and what it mean. Depression, loneliness, sadness,
34:32
Speaker 1: all of the purple, the blue, the green. The red.
34:35
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I can tell them what
34:37
Speaker 1: all them colors meant. And then I go back to,
34:40
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, the idea came from Joker. And I'm
34:43
Speaker 1: going to tell you how I thought about it.
34:44
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn.
34:44
Speaker 8: Joker the character?
34:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Joker the character. I'm like, I wonder what
34:48
Speaker 2: made them die.
34:50
Speaker 1: Joker, hell green. Like, I really wondered. I got to
34:53
Speaker 1: doing some research on stuff. And I learned that a
34:58
Speaker 1: superhero is the exact same thing as a villain.
35:02
Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
35:02
Speaker 2: It's just a.
35:03
Speaker 1: Superhero express their superheroism in a positive way and try
35:09
Speaker 1: to prevent you from feeling the pain they went through.
35:12
Speaker 1: And the villain wants you to feel.
35:14
Speaker 2: The pain they went through. You see what I'm saying?
35:17
Speaker 1: So then I got to saying, damn, what the hell
35:19
Speaker 1: Joker been through? Don't quote me, but anything can be
35:25
Speaker 1: told on the internet, but Joker always felt alone. I
35:29
Speaker 1: think Joker was like Batman had a brother, but He
35:32
Speaker 1: got the riches, and Bruce Wayne adopted him, and they
35:36
Speaker 1: loved him and stuff like that. But Joke is supposedly
35:39
Speaker 1: his ab brother that the world was dark and rough
35:41
Speaker 1: on him, and he didn't know what to do.
35:43
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to check that out. It was
35:45
Speaker 2: a joke.
35:45
Speaker 1: We ain't got to check. They're going to tell us
35:47
Speaker 1: in the comments. It was always a joke. Yeah, they're
35:49
Speaker 1: going to tell us.
35:50
Speaker 8: I read it now.
35:51
Speaker 1: I read that. They're going to tell us in the comments.
35:54
Speaker 10: Look, I know what I read.
35:56
Speaker 1: But look, they said... You know, it was a joke
36:00
Speaker 1: to Joker. Everybody made fun of him. That's where the
36:04
Speaker 1: joke come from.
36:05
Speaker 2: It's a joke. Until he became that villain. Now the
36:08
Speaker 2: joke's on you.
36:08
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So then I go to, damn,
36:12
Speaker 1: what was he going through when he was in the
36:15
Speaker 1: psych ward or whatever the case may be like?
36:17
Speaker 2: Because Joker had to go through that. What it was called?
36:19
Speaker 1: The psych ward he was in. I know what you're
36:24
Speaker 1: talking about.
36:24
Speaker 2: I forgot.
36:26
Speaker 8: Anyway.
36:27
Speaker 4: Anyway.
36:28
Speaker 1: He was going through depression, goddamn schizophrenia, all that kind
36:32
Speaker 1: of stuff. So then I don't even know how. I
36:35
Speaker 1: just looked up what aura colors are for these things. Yeah.
36:38
Speaker 1: And it came back the colors of Joe Gale. I said,
36:41
Speaker 1: these folks deep. So I said, I want to do that.
36:43
Speaker 8: Yeah.
36:44
Speaker 2: That's hard.
36:44
Speaker 1: So when they ask me, I'm going to say this,
36:46
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go here, and then it's going
36:47
Speaker 1: to be like something to talk about.
36:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:49
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
36:50
Speaker 2: So that's what I did it for. Yeah. It was
36:53
Speaker 2: a meaning.
36:53
Speaker 7: Now, what's this clip going online about your lady cheated
36:57
Speaker 7: on you?
36:57
Speaker 8: And then you made a song. Is this legit or
36:59
Speaker 8: is this content?
37:00
Speaker 7: Which one?
37:01
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this. It's water under the bridge.
37:06
Speaker 2: We done moved on. We are good parents. We friends.
37:11
Speaker 8: Oh, so this is true.
37:13
Speaker 6: He said it's water under the bridge. Water under the
37:19
Speaker 6: bridge means we have moved on.
37:22
Speaker 8: I just see the clip circulating, though.
37:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, man. I see it, too.
37:25
Speaker 2: I ain't going to lie to you. I'm going to
37:26
Speaker 2: be a honey. You know me.
37:28
Speaker 1: I ain't the type of person to, like, my heart
37:30
Speaker 1: so big, even if that was true, I wouldn't want to, like,
37:34
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying?
37:35
Speaker 7: Yeah.
37:36
Speaker 11: And you know, when you get in a good space
37:38
Speaker 11: with co-parenting, boy, you got to keep it.
37:40
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, okay. Wait, so you said this on the internet?
37:42
Speaker 2: Nah, this is my first time saying it.
37:44
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying the clip that you talking about, it
37:47
Speaker 3: was said on the internet.
37:48
Speaker 1: Oh, no, so what he talking about.
37:49
Speaker 2: It's on the title.
37:50
Speaker 1: So basically, one of my singles that came out, What
37:54
Speaker 1: You Want, from the new project, I'm speaking on some things.
37:57
Speaker 2: About a girl trip.
37:58
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
37:59
Speaker 1: And they brought up an old video clip of my
38:03
Speaker 1: ex saying some things, you know, that I didn't find. Gotcha.
38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. And now they trying to put one and two together. Like, oh,
38:13
Speaker 2: he talking about her.
38:14
Speaker 5: The internet.
38:14
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
38:15
Speaker 3: The internet.
38:16
Speaker 11: Yeah.
38:16
Speaker 3: The internet. The internet is the real researchers.
38:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:20
Speaker 3: You don't even need Google no more.
38:22
Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
38:23
Speaker 2: Hey, but yeah, it's true. I mean, hold on.
38:25
Speaker 1: It's not true that I'm replying, but I went through that.
38:29
Speaker 2: Okay. You get what I'm saying?
38:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went through that. Yeah, I went through that.
38:33
Speaker 1: Discovering the person I love over here playing with somebody else.
38:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it broke my heart. I had to put it
38:39
Speaker 2: in the music. That's what I do.
38:40
Speaker 5: Yeah.
38:40
Speaker 2: I go through it, rap about it, sing about it.
38:43
Speaker 11: I think I appreciate the fact that even when you
38:46
Speaker 11: articulated your feelings in that song, it wasn't like, fuck
38:49
Speaker 11: that bitch.
38:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:51
Speaker 8: Was it another fat boy?
38:53
Speaker 2: Nah, hell nah.
38:54
Speaker 1: You the skinny nigga? Yeah, that's what made me really...
38:56
Speaker 1: That's what really kind of like broke my heart a
38:58
Speaker 1: little bit.
38:59
Speaker 8: Fuck the skinny dick.
39:00
Speaker 2: This nigga.
39:00
Speaker 8: Nah, look.
39:01
Speaker 1: I'm sick of you. This nigga done total exact... We
39:04
Speaker 1: being serious right now, right? We being serious.
39:06
Speaker 10: Have my boy, dog.
39:07
Speaker 8: We been talking to him like that.
39:08
Speaker 1: So are we still being serious?
39:10
Speaker 4: We being serious.
39:11
Speaker 8: Have my boy.
39:11
Speaker 10: He said I was the one that had a fat boy.
39:13
Speaker 1: Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:14
Speaker 3: You can.
39:15
Speaker 1: It's funny now. Yeah, we can laugh about it. He cool.
39:18
Speaker 1: He said it's funny now.
39:18
Speaker 2: The funny part is it was... These niggas was the
39:22
Speaker 2: exact opposite of me.
39:25
Speaker 8: Oh, plural. Yeah.
39:26
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? The exact opposite. I'm like,
39:29
Speaker 2: these niggas.
39:30
Speaker 1: Stand with a low cut. This nigga short as hell.
39:34
Speaker 1: This nigga tall. This nigga black as fuck. You know what?
39:37
Speaker 4: That dude be the worst when you get cheated on.
39:39
Speaker 5: And they're the complete opposite. Because you be like, am
39:40
Speaker 5: I even your type?
39:42
Speaker 1: Right. Exactly.
39:43
Speaker 3: Am I even your type?
39:45
Speaker 1: Listen, man.
39:46
Speaker 2: I'm glad we on this. Because a long time ago.
39:48
Speaker 10: Let's talk about it.
39:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
39:49
Speaker 2: A long time ago, right, when I used to hear
39:51
Speaker 2: certain things.
39:52
Speaker 1: Like, imagine you sitting in the living room with your
39:54
Speaker 1: girl and her family or whatever. And then she like, mm.
39:59
Speaker 1: And you get the, what you, what, what? What you, what?
40:03
Speaker 1: What you meanin' about? What you see? What do you
40:06
Speaker 1: see that you like?
40:07
Speaker 10: Talk to me.
40:08
Speaker 2: What do you see up there?
40:10
Speaker 1: Oh, he's a handsome man.
40:11
Speaker 3: Da-da-da-da.
40:13
Speaker 1: That nigga got a damn 12-pack. I never even seen
40:18
Speaker 1: a 12-pack before. He got ass all the way down
40:21
Speaker 1: to his, you know what I mean?
40:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
40:23
Speaker 1: You like that? I mean, no, you know, he's just,
40:25
Speaker 1: you know, women, you know, women, da-da-da-da-da-da. And then when
40:29
Speaker 1: the teen situation go on, and you.
40:31
Speaker 2: Look and be like, hold on.
40:33
Speaker 1: There were signs. I wasn't wrong, bitch.
40:35
Speaker 5: You like skinny.
40:36
Speaker 8: You like this skinny, black-ass shit.
40:38
Speaker 10: You like that? That's what you went to?
40:40
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah. You know, people try to make it like,
40:42
Speaker 11: when you have that intuition, like, they automatically deem it
40:46
Speaker 11: as being insecurity.
40:47
Speaker 4: But I feel like it's a human.
40:48
Speaker 5: For a man that do that.
40:49
Speaker 1: Yes.
40:49
Speaker 4: I feel like it's like a human instinct, though.
40:51
Speaker 11: Like, if I love you and I see you looking
40:53
Speaker 11: at some other shit that don't look like me, what
40:54
Speaker 11: the hell?
40:54
Speaker 8: I feel like if a man's insecure, we're not too
40:57
Speaker 8: far off.
40:57
Speaker 1: Exactly. Even if it is insecure.
40:59
Speaker 8: We really don't give a fuck.
41:00
Speaker 2: I know.
41:01
Speaker 10: So if I give a fuck and I feel insecure
41:03
Speaker 10: about something, you made.
41:04
Speaker 1: Me do that.
41:05
Speaker 6: Look, men, we might not have intuition, but we got
41:08
Speaker 6: our spider senses.
41:09
Speaker 1: When the motherfuckers start tingling, we know some shit going on.
41:14
Speaker 1: What does the word insecure actually mean?
41:17
Speaker 8: There you go. What does it mean?
41:18
Speaker 1: Do we know?
41:19
Speaker 8: I don't think.
41:20
Speaker 5: Should we Google it? Let's Google it.
41:20
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, let's Google it. Because I can understand, oh.
41:23
Speaker 2: I feel secured or I don't feel secured.
41:26
Speaker 1: I feel like the word insecure is becoming.
41:27
Speaker 2: It's confidence.
41:28
Speaker 8: It's a confidence thing.
41:29
Speaker 3: But I feel like. But it's becoming a deflection.
41:31
Speaker 11: It means not confident, uncertain, or lacking self-confidence or not
41:35
Speaker 11: safe or protected.
41:36
Speaker 8: There you go.
41:37
Speaker 3: But it's becoming a deflection word.
41:40
Speaker 8: Usually, man don't give a fuck.
41:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I've been saying. I ain't never been
41:45
Speaker 1: insecure if that's the case. You know what I'm saying?
41:48
Speaker 7: If there's a slight insecurity that you're making me feel,
41:51
Speaker 7: I might be right.
41:52
Speaker 1: When them spider senses go off. I ain't insecure because
41:57
Speaker 1: I ain't tripping. But it's when I get to seeing
42:00
Speaker 1: you twinkling your eye a little bit at the nigga
42:03
Speaker 1: that's giving us the food or the drink or Yeah.
42:06
Speaker 2: You know, we had to drive through. Hey, oh, what's up, love?
42:09
Speaker 1: Hey, hold on.
42:10
Speaker 8: So this is my thing.
42:11
Speaker 10: If you can take my lady, she not my lady.
42:14
Speaker 1: And that's real. It took me a long time to
42:15
Speaker 1: learn that.
42:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, if she going to the club hugging every security guy,
42:21
Speaker 6: she got to tell you to hold on. She got
42:22
Speaker 6: to go to the section to go speak to some
42:24
Speaker 6: other man.
42:24
Speaker 2: You're like, hold on, man.
42:25
Speaker 1: That ain't security. That's what you doing.
42:27
Speaker 2: You're like, hold on, man.
42:28
Speaker 1: What the hell you got going on?
42:30
Speaker 5: You know what?
42:30
Speaker 11: That's a lack of boundaries, too, because I've been having
42:33
Speaker 11: this conversation lately, too. It'd be like, when you enter
42:35
Speaker 11: into a relationship, you're making a covenant with having certain.
42:38
Speaker 5: Respect for people, that person, you know?
42:41
Speaker 8: Exactly.
42:42
Speaker 11: The stuff you do when you single, you should not
42:45
Speaker 11: be carrying on with that or you should stay single.
42:47
Speaker 3: You know why?
42:47
Speaker 8: You guys know why?
42:48
Speaker 7: Because we skipping those parts and we going straight to fuck.
42:53
Speaker 3: You right.
42:53
Speaker 5: That's the problem.
42:53
Speaker 6: You right.
42:54
Speaker 1: This is true.
42:54
Speaker 3: And now you.
42:56
Speaker 10: Over here start looking at the other shit. You be like, nah,
42:58
Speaker 10: I don't like that. First of all, you need to
42:59
Speaker 10: back it up.
43:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:00
Speaker 4: Let's talk about it.
43:01
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody rolling out they list. This is my insecure list.
43:05
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying?
43:06
Speaker 1: And then you over here, now you trying to cross
43:08
Speaker 1: shit off the list.
43:09
Speaker 3: No.
43:10
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm doing
43:11
Speaker 2: that now.
43:12
Speaker 1: That's why I slowed it down when I said I'm
43:14
Speaker 1: trying to find love, not from a female.
43:17
Speaker 2: Hold on.
43:17
Speaker 1: See, every time I talk to y'all, I fumble across words.
43:22
Speaker 1: I got to be careful. Because these folks will get, oh,
43:25
Speaker 1: you don't fall in love with females.
43:26
Speaker 8: You like it, dog.
43:27
Speaker 5: Just chill.
43:28
Speaker 1: You feel me? You got to be direct when you
43:31
Speaker 1: speak down on social media.
43:32
Speaker 5: You do.
43:32
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for a relationship at all.
43:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
43:36
Speaker 2: Because the more that I look at females, right, I'm like, no.
43:42
Speaker 1: She do hair?
43:42
Speaker 2: Hell no. She do now? Oh, fuck, no.
43:45
Speaker 8: Stop, bro. Stop. Wait, stop.
43:47
Speaker 7: This is why, one time for my wife, Tanisha. Tanisha
43:50
Speaker 7: is me in a woman body. We literally have the
43:54
Speaker 7: same brain. She like the shit that I like. We
43:58
Speaker 7: do the shit. We don't want a whole bunch of
44:00
Speaker 7: company at the house. How many times you been in
44:01
Speaker 7: my house?
44:03
Speaker 1: Once.
44:03
Speaker 8: J-Rod, how many times you been in my house?
44:06
Speaker 1: Twice.
44:06
Speaker 7: Twice.
44:07
Speaker 1: I ain't invite motherfuckers to the house.
44:09
Speaker 10: She ain't invite motherfuckers to the house.
44:11
Speaker 2: Perfect.
44:11
Speaker 10: We're aligned on that.
44:12
Speaker 2: That's fine.
44:13
Speaker 10: When I get off work, I'm off work. When she
44:16
Speaker 10: get off work, she off work.
44:17
Speaker 8: Off work. When I'm not doing Ferrari shit, I'm not friendly.
44:21
Speaker 8: She not friendly, period.
44:22
Speaker 2: Exactly.
44:23
Speaker 1: See, that's beautiful, man. That's my boy.
44:25
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
44:26
Speaker 7: What I'm trying to tell everybody is find yourself in
44:30
Speaker 7: the other species' body.
44:33
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. It's going to work. Nigga,
44:35
Speaker 1: I know. I don't think I ever find a Miss
44:37
Speaker 1: Derez Deshaun.
44:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you will.
44:39
Speaker 8: You want me to tell you something?
44:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, you will.
44:40
Speaker 1: How? You're going to find her.
44:42
Speaker 10: She's going to find you.
44:44
Speaker 2: There you go.
44:44
Speaker 5: You know where it comes from.
44:45
Speaker 1: Communication.
44:46
Speaker 8: Stop looking, bro.
44:48
Speaker 1: Let her find you.
44:51
Speaker 4: You see the way you just broke that down?
44:52
Speaker 8: She might be around you and you ain't paying attention.
44:54
Speaker 11: You can communicate who you are. I think, too, that's
44:58
Speaker 11: why your journey that you're going on now. A lot
45:00
Speaker 11: of women and men, we don't have productive relationships because
45:03
Speaker 11: we don't know ourself. And if you don't know yourself,
45:06
Speaker 11: how can I tell you who I am? How can
45:08
Speaker 11: I show you who I am? I can't demonstrate anything
45:10
Speaker 11: because I'm still figuring it out.
45:12
Speaker 8: And by the time you figure it out, it's toxic. Right.
45:14
Speaker 4: Two babies are there.
45:16
Speaker 1: Yes.
45:17
Speaker 8: That's why you have to hate each other.
45:19
Speaker 3: But look, that's why you got to know yourself.
45:22
Speaker 8: You got to say, this is what I like.
45:24
Speaker 3: This is what I don't like. You do some shit
45:27
Speaker 3: like this, I'm gone.
45:28
Speaker 1: It's over. No, for real, you got to start setting
45:31
Speaker 1: boundaries like this.
45:32
Speaker 8: No, for real.
45:33
Speaker 6: I know the shit I don't like, and I know
45:35
Speaker 6: the shit I like, and I know the shit that
45:36
Speaker 6: if you do, I'm gone.
45:38
Speaker 1: Exactly.
45:38
Speaker 11: Because everybody has non-negotiables and then you have things that, hey,
45:42
Speaker 11: I may never have been with this before, but this
45:44
Speaker 11: is just something I haven't been exposed to in a
45:46
Speaker 11: healthy environment.
45:47
Speaker 1: So I think you just got to know both. That
45:49
Speaker 1: part right there, that what you just said, I'm actually
45:51
Speaker 1: doing that right now.
45:52
Speaker 7: Good.
45:53
Speaker 2: With my ex, you know, shout out to her. They
45:56
Speaker 2: got married.
45:56
Speaker 5: Yeah.
45:57
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I never experienced that part of co-parenting.
46:02
Speaker 5: Yeah.
46:04
Speaker 2: My kids got a stepdad and all.
46:05
Speaker 7: Yeah.
46:06
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
46:06
Speaker 1: So in the beginning, I used to be, in the beginning,
46:10
Speaker 1: I used to be.
46:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is.
46:12
Speaker 2: In the beginning, like, no cap.
46:15
Speaker 8: It bothered you?
46:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really did.
46:17
Speaker 1: And I can say again, I take accountability because I
46:20
Speaker 1: probably could have messed their relationship up off of my bullshit.
46:23
Speaker 8: For sure.
46:24
Speaker 1: Trying to stand on business by my kids. But from
46:28
Speaker 1: my understanding, he's a good man to my ex and
46:32
Speaker 1: my kids, not just her.
46:33
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
46:34
Speaker 7: Yeah.
46:35
Speaker 2: And to be honest, my oldest one was like, yeah.
46:37
Speaker 8: That shit could be fucked up. Yeah.
46:39
Speaker 2: She was like, you need to talk to him.
46:40
Speaker 3: Be cool with him.
46:41
Speaker 2: He's a good guy.
46:42
Speaker 4: I think that's the part that says a lot.
46:44
Speaker 1: That is such a blessing to have. And it was
46:46
Speaker 1: even to the point where, like, my daughter had games.
46:48
Speaker 1: And I'm like, shout out that I ain't going. And
46:51
Speaker 1: she was like, I want my daughter. I want you
46:53
Speaker 1: to go. I want both of y'all to.
46:55
Speaker 5: Yeah.
46:56
Speaker 4: Them kids, those kids will humble your heart, though.
46:58
Speaker 3: Hey, the kids will humble you, boy.
46:59
Speaker 10: I ain't gonna lie.
47:00
Speaker 11: That's how my daughter was when her dad got married, like,
47:04
Speaker 11: I was very, I think, conscious of that because I
47:06
Speaker 11: grew up with a stepdad. And so when she got married,
47:11
Speaker 11: I didn't really have no background on her stepmother. And
47:14
Speaker 11: so I had to establish that even to her dad
47:17
Speaker 11: because that is also the responsibility of the parent. We
47:20
Speaker 11: don't want to come into a hostile, but a lot
47:22
Speaker 11: of that protector that comes up is like, I don't
47:24
Speaker 11: know you.
47:25
Speaker 2: Exactly.
47:26
Speaker 4: And that's all it is.
47:27
Speaker 11: So what you do is you address the actual problem
47:30
Speaker 11: at the source.
47:31
Speaker 5: I don't know you, so what's the solution to that?
47:33
Speaker 5: I got to get to know you.
47:34
Speaker 3: You're right.
47:34
Speaker 2: I don't know you.
47:35
Speaker 1: I got to get to know you.
47:36
Speaker 7: And on some man shit, you know, he's in your
47:40
Speaker 7: form of pudding, and he's putting his sausage in your
47:45
Speaker 7: own microwave.
47:47
Speaker 8: And you know how that microwave used to work.
47:49
Speaker 7: Yeah.
47:50
Speaker 10: And you know all the things.
47:53
Speaker 1: He want me to tell the truth. All right.
47:57
Speaker 7: Yeah.
47:57
Speaker 10: So in the beginning, all that played a part. You
48:01
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying?
48:02
Speaker 1: All that did play a part. You like, if I
48:05
Speaker 1: see that nigga at the game, nigga, it's up. You
48:07
Speaker 1: let that nigga know.
48:08
Speaker 8: I know she like, God damn. He's a good guy.
48:13
Speaker 1: Nah, you let that nigga know it's smoke when I
48:15
Speaker 1: see it.
48:15
Speaker 5: Hey, look.
48:16
Speaker 1: Hey, let me tell y'all some real shit, bro. This
48:18
Speaker 1: real shit. So the first time I met the dude, right,
48:22
Speaker 1: you know, face to face or whatever.
48:24
Speaker 2: Damn, I hope I ain't kicking nobody.
48:26
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
48:27
Speaker 8: No, you're good.
48:28
Speaker 1: The whole time, you're a good guy. It was my
48:31
Speaker 1: daughter's birthday, my younger daughter's birthday. And everybody was just so, like,
48:38
Speaker 1: watching me.
48:38
Speaker 2: Every step I take, they.
48:40
Speaker 8: It be like that.
48:42
Speaker 2: They're like, what he doing?
48:44
Speaker 8: What he doing?
48:45
Speaker 1: And, you know, my ex pulled him to the side like, hey, look,
48:48
Speaker 1: you know. You're doing a good job. We did not
48:51
Speaker 1: expect you to come this way.
48:54
Speaker 8: And you were probably different because you're also Derez Deshaun.
48:57
Speaker 1: You dig what I'm saying? Yeah.
49:00
Speaker 5: They was expecting to crash out.
49:02
Speaker 1: They was expecting to crash out. My daughter told me.
49:04
Speaker 8: You had all your shit on.
49:05
Speaker 1: You had all your shit on. I don't even know
49:06
Speaker 1: how I came.
49:07
Speaker 2: I think I might have.
49:08
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't know how I came. Listen,
49:12
Speaker 1: my daughter told me like, yeah, Dad, I told him
49:15
Speaker 1: that he gonna have to hide under the table when
49:16
Speaker 1: you come because you gonna beat him up. Oh, my God.
49:19
Speaker 1: So that hurted me to him.
49:21
Speaker 8: Like, I'm not finished. In all seriousness, yes.
49:23
Speaker 1: You feel me?
49:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure.
49:25
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna beat nobody up.
49:27
Speaker 1: And we went outside, like, and I give it to him, like,
49:30
Speaker 1: I respect him, you know what I'm saying? Even with
49:33
Speaker 1: my daughter and her family telling him that, he like,
49:36
Speaker 1: what's up, bro?
49:37
Speaker 2: Shit, let's go chop it up.
49:39
Speaker 5: I'm like, And see, them the ones you respect. That
49:42
Speaker 5: was the first.
49:43
Speaker 1: You know, they're like, are you trying to have a duel? Look,
49:45
Speaker 1: I'm like, you sure, nigga? That's what I'm thinking at first. Like,
49:50
Speaker 1: you sure? Because I can get you out of here.
49:52
Speaker 1: Ain't no telling what might happen. And then I had
49:55
Speaker 1: to think, like, nah, fuck it. That's real nigga shit.
49:58
Speaker 2: Come on.
49:59
Speaker 1: We talked it up for a minute. And I respect them.
50:02
Speaker 1: I got to respect them.
50:03
Speaker 5: That probably did so much for your girls to see that, too.
50:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
50:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had to be. But, yeah, I respect them.
50:09
Speaker 1: Shout out to them. They married now. You know what
50:12
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Hey, man, I'm happy for you.
50:14
Speaker 8: That's actually good for you, too.
50:15
Speaker 2: That's good.
50:16
Speaker 5: Yeah.
50:17
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure.
50:18
Speaker 7: Well, listen, man, we proud of you, brother.
50:20
Speaker 1: For sure.
50:21
Speaker 2: Thank you.
50:22
Speaker 8: Appreciate you pulling up on us, my boy.
50:23
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. Man, I appreciate y'all having me.
50:26
Speaker 6: Yeah.
50:27
Speaker 1: It was a good conversation. Yeah, it was beautiful.
50:30
Speaker 2: It definitely was.
50:30
Speaker 8: Good conversation.
50:31
Speaker 7: So Manny had been trying to get you in here
50:33
Speaker 7: for a minute, but we had been so busy that
50:35
Speaker 7: I had some personal things going on that's been kind of...
50:39
Speaker 7: But Manny didn't even get mad. Manny just said, hey, man,
50:42
Speaker 7: I've been trying to hit you about getting the reds.
50:43
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what?
50:45
Speaker 8: Tell him Tuesday.
50:45
Speaker 2: Ryan didn't want to tell y'all.
50:46
Speaker 3: He had his lights cut off.
50:48
Speaker 8: For real?
50:48
Speaker 1: Huh?
50:49
Speaker 12: There's a lot of shit going on, but all is good, brother.
51:02
Speaker 7: I'm just home caring for a family member. That shit
51:05
Speaker 7: been a lot on my plate, for real.
51:07
Speaker 1: Hey, man, guess what? I'm understanding that. I ain't going
51:11
Speaker 1: to say the name, but I'm dealing with that situation, too,
51:14
Speaker 1: where early signs of dementia.
51:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:18
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
51:19
Speaker 7: There's a stroke on ours, so you can't walk, can't talk,
51:22
Speaker 7: and then you got to, everything reset, and it's just
51:25
Speaker 7: a new normal that's taking everybody like, damn, you know
51:28
Speaker 7: what I'm saying? It take a lot from us, but
51:30
Speaker 7: it's a lot of love involved, so nobody's really paying
51:32
Speaker 7: attention to how hard it is to deal with it,
51:35
Speaker 7: because it's so much love there. I literally don't think
51:39
Speaker 7: about anything but making sure Everybody's good.
51:43
Speaker 2: That's what's up. That's real. That's real.
51:46
Speaker 8: I just told him, man, it was you.
51:47
Speaker 7: You know, you my boy. So I was like, hell yeah.
51:49
Speaker 7: I didn't even tell him. I was like, hey, man,
51:50
Speaker 7: the Reds Tuesday.
51:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
51:52
Speaker 8: You was like, I asked.
51:53
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
51:54
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, the Reds Tuesday.
51:55
Speaker 6: That's love.
51:55
Speaker 8: You my boy.
51:56
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
51:57
Speaker 8: We had good combos.
51:58
Speaker 1: This is the first time with Kayla. Yeah, I just
52:02
Speaker 1: connected the dots. That's my dog right here.
52:05
Speaker 4: That's my dog, man.
52:06
Speaker 11: It's so funny because I just said something to you
52:09
Speaker 11: last week because I said you dropped the album. But
52:11
Speaker 11: when I listened to the music, I was like, he's healing.
52:13
Speaker 8: The album's really good, by the way.
52:15
Speaker 5: He's healing. Thank you.
52:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't even talk about the album. Go get it.
52:20
Speaker 8: Go get the album right now.
52:22
Speaker 1: Ace out.
52:23
Speaker 8: Thank you.
52:23
Speaker 7: Thank you for your contributions to the genre, to the.
52:26
Speaker 8: Music, to Atlanta.
52:28
Speaker 5: I think to men's mental health, too.
52:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
52:30
Speaker 5: To the South Side, you have to highlight that.
52:33
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, yeah.
52:34
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Danny Nega.
52:35
Speaker 8: Danny Nega's my dog. Yeah, he sponsors our show.
52:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Danny.
52:38
Speaker 2: This is Baller.
52:39
Speaker 5: Go ahead, XR.
52:40
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, by the way, and if you ever get
52:42
Speaker 8: into an accident, 844-GA-REC. That's 844-GA-REC. And then also, Shout
52:49
Speaker 8: out to our folks over here. You know what I'm saying?
52:52
Speaker 11: Yeah.
52:53
Speaker 10: Slapwoods!
52:55
Speaker 1: Slapwoods! Slapwoods!
52:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.
52:57
Speaker 10: Slapwoods.
53:02
Speaker 3: Kadibby Slap.
53:03
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
53:04
Speaker 3: Now, this is a great conversation.
53:06
Speaker 6: Conversations like this is going to make people stream the
53:08
Speaker 6: album more because this is the conversation that your fans...
53:12
Speaker 6: And I know it'd be hard talking about a lot
53:14
Speaker 6: of shit because you'd be like, do I want to
53:15
Speaker 6: talk about that?
53:16
Speaker 1: They want to know. You want me to tell you
53:18
Speaker 1: what I had to learn? I had to learn that
53:20
Speaker 1: I have to talk about it.
53:22
Speaker 3: Yes.
53:22
Speaker 1: Bruh. The music is there, but I think my fans,
53:27
Speaker 1: specifically my fans, are in love with me. Yes.
53:32
Speaker 10: And you do have real fans.
53:35
Speaker 2: Real fans.
53:36
Speaker 8: For sure, 100%.
53:37
Speaker 2: They want to know about me. Am I good? We
53:39
Speaker 2: got you on the music.
53:41
Speaker 1: What's up, though?
53:42
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
53:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
53:44
Speaker 1: That's why we got to get that transparency.
53:46
Speaker 3: That's why we know.
53:48
Speaker 6: We know it's hard talking about personal stuff, but this
53:51
Speaker 6: is stuff that fans want to know because they like, oh,
53:53
Speaker 6: that's why he said that in his song.
53:56
Speaker 8: Oh, now it makes sense. Last thing, too.
53:58
Speaker 7: You go on our YouTube page, our interviews be like
54:00
Speaker 7: 20 minutes, 30 minutes.
54:02
Speaker 8: We can talk to you for an hour.
54:03
Speaker 2: That is love.
54:05
Speaker 5: But I think that there is a power in.
54:08
Speaker 11: this conversation for you for him for me for bt
54:12
Speaker 11: because there's a full circle moment you know what i
54:15
Speaker 11: mean because there's a lot of people like you said
54:18
Speaker 11: they love you as a person and so seeing you
54:21
Speaker 11: go through the emotional turmoil that you've endured the last
54:23
Speaker 11: couple years and then hearing you finally be at a
54:26
Speaker 11: place to articulate like look i was fucked up but
54:30
Speaker 11: i'm getting better now guess what that does for listeners
54:33
Speaker 11: it encourages them.
54:34
Speaker 5: Like okay peace he's good You know what I mean?
54:38
Speaker 5: And now when they see you out, they'll be like,
54:40
Speaker 5: are you doing all right?
54:41
Speaker 11: They're going to start asking those questions, and that is
54:44
Speaker 11: how God sends you miracles, signs, and wonders to have
54:47
Speaker 11: you have that remembrance while you're doing the work. Because
54:50
Speaker 11: sometimes the checks ain't always getting cash quick.
54:53
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
54:54
Speaker 11: So when you're doing the work, you're sowing the seed,
54:56
Speaker 11: but you got to understand your purpose is bigger than that.
54:59
Speaker 2: I did.
55:00
Speaker 1: I recently came to understand with that after even dropping
55:05
Speaker 1: this album, So many people, you know, I see in
55:08
Speaker 1: the comments are like, thank you, bro.
55:10
Speaker 7: Yeah.
55:11
Speaker 2: We've been needing this, bro.
55:12
Speaker 3: Yeah.
55:13
Speaker 2: The world is healing now.
55:14
Speaker 6: Yeah.
55:15
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, that's deep. The word out here now,
55:18
Speaker 2: because the real drunk.
55:18
Speaker 5: When I heard that, you see, you got a fence,
55:21
Speaker 5: and I look at you different. I said, please, yes.
55:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel me? Because what you doing?
55:25
Speaker 3: What you doing?
55:26
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying?
55:28
Speaker 6: But this is why artists have to go through things.
55:30
Speaker 5: Yes.
55:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real.
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Speaker 3: Because we, that's relatable things.
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Speaker 8: Because people go through it, too.
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Speaker 1: People go through the same stuff.
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Speaker 6: Everybody goes through ups and downs in their life, career, relationships,
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Speaker 6: and it makes the music better that you say, oh,
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Speaker 6: He just like me or she just like.
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Speaker 11: Me, 100%.
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Speaker 1: Facts.
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Speaker 2: Rich niggas, broke niggas, orange people, yellow people, whatever.
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Speaker 1: We all the same.
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Speaker 8: Everybody going through something. Well, listen, man, we proud of
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Speaker 8: you again.
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Speaker 7: Like we always say, man, thank you for pulling up
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Speaker 7: on the Ball Alert Show, man.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, man. And I appreciate y'all,
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Speaker 1: each and every one of y'all.
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Speaker 2: I swear.
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Speaker 8: Go ahead and send me songs tonight, man.
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Speaker 2: What you working on? You going to drop me another?
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Speaker 2: I got you.
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Speaker 1: How you want to do it this time? You want
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Speaker 1: me to get in there with you? Yes, please.
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Speaker 2: I got you.
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Speaker 8: But I still want to send me a few notes.
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Speaker 5: It's giving a listening session.
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Speaker 8: No, for sure. I got some shit.
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Speaker 5: I'll be at that one. I'm with you.
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Speaker 8: I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: All right, man. We're going to talk about this off camera, man.
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Speaker 8: Daddy make love for Studios Baller Show.
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Speaker 4: Peace.
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Speaker 8: A-Town.