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Ep: 78 Why are we fighting each other? · The Sense and Senseless Podcast

• Bryan: You ever wonder why two people who both hate rising grocery prices, both want cheaper health care, and both think Congress is full of shit, still treat each other like the enemy? Have you noticed the loudest fights almost never about the rising cost of everyday life that affects all of us? You ever wonder why we all so divided as US taxpayers? That's not an accident. Stick around. Tonight we break down why we're fighting each other and who benefits when we do. Hey, welcome back to the Sense and Senseless Podcast. I am Brian. Yes, J. If Jason: No, I'm Jason. Bryan: you're new here, welcome to the family. We're just two guys breaking down shit in a way that everyone can understand. Tonight we got a simple question. Why are we fighting each other? Not why do politicians disagree? Why American taxpayers who share the same problems? Keep lining up behind two parties that do nothing to help them on their daily struggle. Most of us are fighting the same shit every day. But we are separating ourselves by our political beliefs. Stick with us, and we're going to discuss this fight. Jesus. Got anything? All right. Me, myself, and I consider myself and always considered myself in the middle. I've always been a registered independent because I I don't really like either party. And I never wanted to follow politics. I thought most people in the United States were closer to the middle than they were completely aligned with another party. However, today you have to be all or nothing. If you don't agree with everything your party's politicians say or do, you are the devil. As we discussed before, there seems to be a huge difference between online political hate and everyday political hate. And where I live, you can't tell most people's political beliefs just by seeing them in public. Nor should you. However, what you see online and in the media, you would believe that we have two teams just ready to fight each other at the drop of hat. Just wishing the motherfucker would every day. All day. But I don't see that in my daily life. Nor do I believe most people see that in their daily lives. Like so, Jason, you see all this political hate in your daily life? Jason: No. No, I'm I'll be honest. When before social media came out and got big, I thought everybody thought about the same where I lived. Bryan: Yeah, you thought everybody was in the middle too? Jason: Yeah, I just thought everybody had the same wants and needs and believed in the same stuff and, you know, just wanted to live simple lives and get along and I I didn't realize it was as bad as it is until I started watching social media. Bryan: So you telling me you don't have people just walk up you in your daily life and tell you you look racist. Jason: No. Bryan: Like we get in our comments. You just look racist. Jason: 'Cause of the beard and the bald head, dude. Bryan: Yeah. Jason: I mean, I could understand if you had a big schwastika tattooed on your forehead or something, but I mean Bryan: That that's what I don't understand is the h the the online hatred Jason: What about a bald bla or b bearded black dude? Is he racist? Probably. Bryan: Maybe so. Maybe so. I I think most of this is just fabricated to keep you in line with your political party. Why? Because if the other party wins, you know what happens? It'll be a complete disaster. Civil war, communism, World War III. We have a nuclear war. We're gonna get higher taxes. Jason: We've seen both parties win and this shit don't happen, so Bryan: And the worst one they tell you is they're gonna take away your social security. No, you can't forget that one. Then you get all the older people. Jason: they tell the women they're gonna lose all their rights as a woman too, like all their rights to their body and all that. I mean, I'm married. Bryan: Yeah, your world's going. Jason: My wife hasn't lost any I mean, she lost some parts due to cancer, but she didn't lose any right to her. I mean, it's not like the doctors and the government's up in here doing stuff to her, or I don't even get to do stuff to her most of the Bryan: Ha ha. Jason: time. So where's all these rights being lost at, Brian? I mean Bryan: That's 'cause you didn't vote right. It i Jason: Okay. Bryan: if you voted right, y all that shit would come true. That's what they tell you every time. You so you gotta vote your party, Jason. You have to vote your party. Don't you know that every time you vote your party line, you get everything that you want in it? Jason: Yeah, it's like a having a genie in a bottle, isn't it? It's the political genie. Bryan: Yeah that genie's a I don't know. He's he's not a good genie. The Jason: A mother effort. Bryan: wishes the wishes he gives you he gives you is the genie when he comes out he he he allows you to uncover three lies. Jason: One of those lies is I'm not gonna lie anymore after this. Bryan: Hey, you know, so you you go vote, your party wins, and now you gloat about how things are gonna change and how the other party's the problem, right? And then Jason: Well, Bryan: if you if your party loses, they don't care what party it is, you claim election fraud, you blame something else on the loss. But for the winning party, everything is better now because your party is in power. But nothing really changes ever. No matter who the fuck's in power, both parties suck ass. They do. Jason: Right. Right. Right. Bryan: So we go through the process, we go through the the election, someone wins, and then the process starts over. We just all start fighting over the next election. And how that election is the most important ever. And you know what'll happen if if the other party wins? It's every every election it's the worst thing. Jason: Dude, I'm telling you, man, they either wrestling got this from politics or politics got it from wrestling. One of the two. Because tell me that story, I d I always lean on it. Them them two big fat boys over in Illinois, Southern Illinois, sitting in front of that mobile home trailer during the middle of the day, which they they didn't work. And I'm not judging them. I'm just saying two grown dudes sitting outside talking about how The Undertaker and Stone Cold were gonna go at it and I betcha Stone Cold just gonna whoop his ass. Like like they believed the shit. You know what I'm saying? Bryan: Well, yeah, it's true to them. That that's their that that's probably and I hate to even put it in this aspect, but that's probably at that point was their religion. You know, they will not so much they will worship in it, but they will just put in them Jason: I watched it too. They're good athletes, but damn, you know that this shit ain't real. It's rigged. Bryan: No, but you can even and I'm not saying football and sports are rigged, but you'll see two people and I know I'm not trying to use this analogy the same way, but I'm just talking about how bought into something someone can get. Where two people actually get into a physical altercation over, you know, their sports team. You know, it's Yeah, they they they don't own nothing Jason: yeah. Or you see the fights at a at a game. Bryan: with that team. That team's not giving them anything, but yet you're gonna fight Jason: No. Bryan: over them because you have that much belief in your team. Maybe it's Jason: Yeah. Bryan: the same way with wrestling, I don't know. Jason: But I'm telling politics is the same damn way. I mean, it's like people Bryan: yeah. Jason: got they like I tell you the other thing is like Catholics. Like if you have a Catholic stop going to a Catholic church and they go to a Protestant church, their family will disown them. Bryan: You think? Jason: I know it. I know people that have been done like that. Now, I'm not speaking for a hundred percent, but I'm gonna tell you a majority. Like I've got to watch how I say stuff on here. I know that. But I'm telling you, I know, I know people that have been disowned. I'll have my wife come in here and confirm it that people being disowned. And it's that Bryan: See, I I think Jason: and that's where I live. It that'll happen. So I can imagine the other areas that it would happen too. And it's the same thing with your politics. Bryan: They get the zone, that's what you're talking about. Jason: Y'all, I bet guarantee you, fam you see it on social media. Bryan: I think people that bought into politics. And I think people bought into it so much that it could become their religion. And I think this is what I was thinking of the other day. And I don't know if I told you this while I was on vacation. That you you remember back in the day you you buy a an album or a CD or fucking cassette, and it was like only one song on it that you like. But you really liked the band that you bought it for, and you only had one song, Jason: Yeah. Bryan: but you tried to make yourself like the rest of it. Jason: Yeah, we talked about that on the beach. Bryan: Yeah, so you you try to make yourself enjoy the rest of it. And and you are gonna because that's your favorite band, you're gonna fight everyone else's. It's not that bad because they're gonna be Man, you stupid for buying S C D is only one good song. No, no, they got a few other good ones on. That's what reminds me of politicians. It's like Jason: Yeah. Bryan: you don't agree, yeah, they did one good thing that you agreed with, but all the rest of the shit sucks, but you're still gonna fucking protect them, you know, because that's who you voted for. And you couldn't be wrong. Why why why could you be you don't know these people and So they could be doing something that you don't know about, right? And you could be wrong. Just accept it. They're not perfect. You're not perfect. I'm not perfect. Nobody's perfect. You know, just accept the changes as they go. But they don't. Jason: You know, hey, we got more listeners now, so I'm not gonna make this bet, but if we still had like twenty, I would probably do this. I'd bet a hundred dollars that if when Trump's out of office, I bear guarantee the next president that comes in, Republican or Democrat, the Epstein files will not be released. And if they are, he's not gonna be incriminated. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, if he was gonna be incriminated in those files, Biden and them would have Kamala and them would have released them before the election. Yes. Bryan: Are you talking about Trump won't be incriminated? Jason: Like 'cause I'm holding that 'cause of the crap we read in our comments. And we hey, I appreciate the comments. I really do. And I appreciate everybody that don't agree with us and has a different view. We we like that. But You some of you fools that go too far, well, you support a rapist. You'd support a child predator. probably a f you could be a friend of a rapist and never know you were a friend with one. I mean you don't know what everybody does behind closed doors but I'm gonna tell you right now yeah I no kidding Bryan: No you de you don't wanna know what I do behind closed doors. Jason: I mean damn people come on we we're around people all kinds of weirdos day in day out Bryan: Yep. I I I think I Jason: But what I'm getting at is they them Democrats would have released it's already been brought to light by the Hodge twins and and and all these big podcast people or whatever. And the ones that aren't really liking Trump now, you know what I'm saying? The ones that like, man, I didn't vote for this. Or even still saying if he was in the Epstein files and incriminated, they would that would have came out already. It would have. Bryan: I think it would have too in in that case. The only reason I would the only argument I have against that is that it would have incriminated too many people for it to come out on him. Then that might be the reason that he could that's the only reason I can see that he would still be in those files that it would have something against him to incriminate him and it not Jason: Right. Bryan: be released. It's because it would have been too many, too many big people would have went the fuck down. Jason: Right. If he's protecting his big friends, I'm not I don't agree with that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Bryan: No, no, no. I'm not saying he's protecting his big friend. I'm saying when Biden was in office and they were going after Trump and and they had if Trump was in the upsteam files and they could have said, hey, look what he was doing to the whatever, right? And how bad that looked. But if they did that, they were going to blow up a fucking network that they wasn't ready to deal with because it wasn't just going to be Trump. You see what I'm getting at? Jason: Right. No, no, there yeah, there was all kinds of people in there that was gonna go down or burn. Bryan: Right. So that that that's the only argument I I guess I'm saying that I would have against the fact that they wouldn't have released that's the only thing I could see is why they wouldn't have 'cause they were going everything else at Jason: But you think that somebody in that realm or whatever would have released something that they would have been, you know what, screw it. I really don't want this mother up effort in office. I'm released I'm gonna say something. Bryan: No, I would assume I don't I'd bet that I don't know if he has anything that incriminated himself to begin with. You know, he's did I haven't seen any proof to say otherwise that there would be something incriminated. But you know, if Biden and them did have something on him and he wasn't gonna use it, the amount of people that was above fucking Trump that probably also would come down, they know they they Jason: Yeah because Bryan: they wasn't willing ready to put that nuclear bomb in. And to play just yet. Jason: well, and if we can get into a a little scenario, and I know you said this one might go a little long tonight, so I'm not trying to add on to the longness of it, but but say, you know, all these people wanting to roll back to that. Well, what if Obama was on that? What if Clinton? The Clintons were already had that hearing. Bryan: And it's possi it's quite possible they are all on that. Jason: You you see what I'm saying? Those people that are coming after us say, Well, you voted for a child predator, you vote you voted for Obama more than likely, you voted for the Clintons more than likely if you were old enough to vote for Clinton, but you probably were for Obama. These people that are telling us this, right? So what if he's on there too? Bryan: And that would be a reason another reason why Biden might not have released the files to get Trump. Jason: Biden may have been on there too. Bryan: Well, that's what I'm getting at. So when you say that if they would have had the files on Trump, they would have released them because they were going after them. There's a good chance that there was other prominent people on there that if that that was associated, and this is just all hypothetical because I don't fucking know. Let's just say Trump was associated or in those files and it was incriminating, but it was also linked. To these other prominent people, let's say, you know, like Bama and Clinton, you're not gonna go ahead and say, hey, look, you know, we're gonna release this because now you're gonna start a tit for tat that you don't want nothing no part of. You know I'm getting that. Cause now Jason: Yeah. Right. Right. Bryan: when I gotta give my deposition, guess what's gonna fucking come out? You know, we we we gonna start, Jason: The next person. Bryan: we're gonna start naming some motherfucking names. Jason: Yeah. Cause my ship's going down. I'm taking everybody down with me. Bryan: yeah, I'm imploding this motherfucker. Jason: Yeah. So that's what I'm getting at is the let's let's all agree the file needs to come out and show everybody. And we all agree I agree. You agree with that. Okay. And if and if anybody Bryan: I agree. I agree a hundred percent. I don't give a fuck who's on it. Let's fucking call out. Let's come the fuck out. Jason: I voted for at any time was on there, sorry, I didn't know. I didn't know what was on that file. I didn't know what that that Bryan: No. Jason: that was going on. Bryan: You none of us know any of these people. Period. Any Jason: That's right. That's right. Bryan: of them. I don't care how much you unless you like really best friends with them. Jason: So are you gonna or is somebody gonna eat their words when their candidate that they voted for is on there too? You know what I'm saying? No, they're not gonna they're gonna be like, Well, well you're you're your your guy got president, no, mine didn't. You know? It's like, Well you shut the fuck up. You you voted for that person. You supported that person. Go ahead. Bryan: Well, so we that brings me to so we have this endless cycle of fighting, right? And we fight with each other, but nothing but nothing ever gets fixed. You know, and Jason: yeah. I just got into one right there. No, it doesn't. Bryan: that there might be some small changes, you know, that but nothing that really helps people. And the the everyday tax I'm not gonna say it don't help people, it don't help us, the everyday taxpayer. So when was the lex last time there was an election that changed your grocery bill? Jason: The first one? Bryan: Yeah, yeah. All right or it dropped your insurance costs. Gave you hope that you was gonna get ahead in life. If you just worked hard enough, you would get ahead in life. Jason: Mm. I mean none. Bryan: And I I could say there was a short time, you know, now looking at this and what we just talked about with Trump, there was a short time in that first administration that I felt like, okay, things might get a little better. You know. Jason: Yeah, because gas came down, groceries came down. I mean it was like okay. Bryan: But that was short lived. Jason: It was. Next thing you know, there's riots all over the damn place and you know what I'm saying? Like this world just started Bryan: Can't can't have nothing. Jason: looking like a third world country, huh? Bryan: Can't have nothing, man. Can't have nothing. Can't have nothing. Jason: You can't we can't have peace, man. We can't. If somebody's Bryan: You know a huge Jason: looking good, they're gonna make look if I'm telling you, that's just how they are. If somebody is looking good and be like, crap, they gotta make them look bad. Bryan: You don't think that goes on both parties though? Jason: I think it yeah, I think it does. I just I ain't gonna lie. I just well and it may have been 'cause of the way social media is more popular now that it was exposed more with them with the Democrats than it was the Republicans, but I at the end of the day, I still think that there's this country, right, that's got a white flag with blue in it and a star on it, and their leader has the same nickname as No, it's a star. It's the star David. Bryan: Y is it a star or is it a pentagram? it's okay, it's a star. I was just asking, you know, I'm just curious. I I didn't really know just Jason: And that's what they say. Yeah, you draw a circle around it, it'd be a pentagram, but they say that's what the pentagram came from was the star of David with the star or circle around it. But anyways, yeah, and their leader is nickname of the little the little rifle you get your kid to learn how to shoot with called B B. But I believe that they're controlling a majority of our dang. I think I think whoever's in office is who they want in office. Bryan: No, I agree with that. And I think and I don't want to keep making this about Trump, because this is not about Trump. This is I just want to talk about all political parties, but going back to twenty sixteen, I think Jason: good. Bryan: that's why it worked in twenty sixteen because he was not really affiliated with either party. Both parties pretty much didn't like him, right? And Jason: Right. They yeah, Republicans are were scared of him. Bryan: So I think the beginning of that is why it worked out until they found a plan to just to make it look worse. Now whether you like them or not, I I I don't care. I that's that's not the point. At at the beginning of that portion of his you know, his administration, we were doing a lot better before COVID. That's the numbers are there. I can't argue that. What changed after that? I don't fucking know. Now, a huge issue, I Jason: Fine. Bryan: science. That's right. Science. Yep. Ask Anthony Fauci. You get an argument with somebody and you can't fucking answer it? Science. Science. Science Dan. Yep. Jason: Science. Just say science. Science is the answer for everything. We'll see how many of our people that listen to us will go around just at work. Hey Bob, do you got the numbers on them things? No. Do you know what it is? Science. It's science. Bryan: Science and just walk away. Don't don't give no fucking explanation. Just fucking walk away. That that ain't that Jason: Just walk away. Bryan: ends all conversations right there. Jason: Honey, did you do the dishes tonight? Science. Bryan: Science. Jason: Science. Bryan: A huge fucking issue I have is we all talk or we've been trained to say political power. You know, we we all you always hear about the Republicans have the political power or you have the power of office. When the problem is is the the political power should be for the people, not for the fucking politicians. You know, they represent us, they work for us. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Their power is given to them by us. Or at least that was an intentions. Jason: They were supposed to be spokesmans for our areas, Bryan: Yeah. Jason: I'm at right? Bryan: Y yeah, I mean technically. Yes. Jason: And why do you have to have a Senate and a Congress? I I I guess I need to get educated more why you have the two different Bryan: The the short answer is one is law and the other one's basically holds the strings of the purse. Jason: Okay. Bryan: So the house has the strings of the purse and the Senate has more of the law effect. Jason: Okay. Bryan: So that's the the short answer. And anyone that wants to challenge me, I don't fucking know anyway, so I watched what was it? The schoolhouse rock. Jason: But y I Bryan: I watched just a bill. And shit like that. That's the shit I learned on. So Jason: The bill. Yeah. Bryan: that that's my lawyer fucking education. Jason: That's why he ran home real quick after school to watch some schoolhouse rock. Bryan: That's right, schoolhouse rock. You can't beat no sk if you don't know what schoolhouse rock is, y'all need to check that shit out. That sh that shit Jason: Yeah. I'm sure it's on U I bet you can find it on YouTube. Bryan: That shit educated me. It taught me what what a bill was, bill's a bill. And it tell you Jason: Until it gets sign it's just paper and Bryan: On Capital Hill. Jason: on Capitol Hill until it gets signatures on it. Bryan: That's right. Then it becomes the law. Jason: Then it comes a law. Bryan: I'm telling you, you can learn all kinds of shit on school hours rock. All right, so go away off topic on this shit. Jason: No, that's fine. Bryan: Let's let's start talk we're gonna talk about the political divide, the issues that the media and the politicians keep in your face. According to the US data polling dot com, these are the issues that they want you to focus on. The immigration and border, climate, abortion, democracy, transgender and related cultural issues, and guns. The average gap between parties on these issues runs around 30 to 45 points. Republicans treat immigration and crime as core. Democrats treat climate abortion election rules as core. It was found that activists also fight hardest over the gender identity issues, even though each party say their own side talks too much about transgender issues. Kind of weird. Now, the US population identifies as roughly twenty nine percent Democrat, twenty eight percent Republican, and independents are at a record or near record highs at forty one to forty five percent. When you add in how the independent lean or vote, the Democrats are around forty seven percent, Republicans are around forty three percent, and there's a small remainder that don't lean either way. The most ideologically intense groups on each side, the loud ones that set the tone of the arguments, there's still a smaller portion of all this. Pew's 2026 report puts the hard right around 21% of adults, and most of the hard left wing groups around 17%. And that one kind of shocked me because I thought there would have been more people, on the left wing as, Jason: Uh-huh. Bryan: you know, hard into their shit. And it might be growing because socialism seems to be growing in this country. And maybe they're still counting that. But that one kind of shocked me. Now, according to these polls, most of the country sits in the middle with mixed or lower engagement. The fight is loud because the activists on both sides are the loudest. And the average person in the middle is just going about their fucking day and minding their own business. And it's not that the average person doesn't care. Most of them don't have the time or energy to live online and argue about politics and random shit all day. You know? And that all might likely be by design. I d does that match what you see, or does the internet Jason: Yeah. Bryan: have us convinced that the whole world is at war? Jason: That's what I see in daily life, but Now you it it gets you looking now. Like before I didn't look at people and like, I betcha that dude's a Democrat. I call Bryan: yeah. Jason: I say that when they're driving and shit. The way they drive, I'm like, I betcha that dude voted for Kamala. Bryan: Serious? Jason: Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: By the way they drive, I I I'm curious how many people actually do that. I I've I've never done it. Now, don't get me wrong, and I hate to even say I've done this, but I I'd be honest with you. I've seen people like with just like blue hair and and earrings all over their face and shit, you know, and c can't even speak because they got so many earrings in their lips. And like they probably voted for Kambala. You know? So yeah, I understand that, but never driving. Jason: yeah. Bryan: And and don't get me wrong, I know people look at me because they say it online and they say, Yep, he voted for Trump. The bearded guy with bald head. Yeah, he he voted Jason: Bald head. He he's racist. Bryan: he racist ass voted for Trump. Bigot. Yeah. I'm racist. It's something I can't Jason: You grew up with a bunch of blacks. I didn't. And they call you racist because you're bald and got the beard. So Bryan: even fucking control. I can't even control growing hair on my head. But I can grow it on my chin. So I grow it on my chin. Jason: I know. And I can't control my accent either, so sorry, I mean last time I checked it wasn't racism didn't come from an accent, but whatever. Bryan: No right. So let's look at the transgender issue they always make us argue over. And this one will probably piss some people off, but I I just want to talk about it because it's it's a hot topic on both sides. Jason: Right. Bryan: And honestly, I believe there's a lot of oxygen wasted on this subject. I just do. And I'm gonna explain why. To this day, I don't understand why so many people fight over transgender issues. I understand that there are plenty of transgender issues and that aren't good for the mass population. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Like men in women's sports, Jason: Yeah. Bryan: cutting kids' private sports off to make the opposite sex. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Men in women's bathrooms. You know, Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: these are real issues and I get it, you know. But why do we allow was that Jason: You kn you never heard of problems with women coming into men's bathrooms. That's the weird one. I'm just saying. I go run go back to whatever the heck you use. I'll use chat and we'll see if there was any issues with Bryan: There they might be because I mean God is gonna make me sound like a fucking creep. You got kids in school now, you know, fucking high school kids bitching about fucking their kid teachers. You know that teacher fucked me. Talking about dudes fucking their female Jason: Yeah. Bryan: women teacher and complaining. Yeah, she sucked my dick. Dude, are you stupid? You know? So there might be dudes complaining about girls going in the bathroom, is all I'm trying to say. Would you Some of these teachers look pretty good. Would you fucking be like, man, she fucked me. You know, I'm you know, I want to press charges. Jason: No, 'cause my teachers look like Rambo back in the day, so Bryan: Your teachers would fuck you, huh? Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Fucking Beulah ball breaker. Jason: Yeah. Come over here, boy. Bryan: You know what I'm getting at though. May you see the women Jason: I know because Bryan: pop up on TV and you like, are you serious? You mad that you fuck that? Jason: Well, yeah, but I'm still trying to understand where the teacher's mind is on this too. Like where Yeah, like I could now listen, I know Bryan: no, the teachers are fucked up. The teachers in my mind they're just fucked up. But the kids Jason: I know it is what it is, right? I know there's an age and all that stuff and illegal and and all this, so don't please do not come at me for this and and understand where I'm coming from. You get girls that get out of college at what, four years, twenty one years old, right? So eighteen, nineteen, twenty yeah, twenty one. And you got a seventeen year old. dude, right? In your class. That's why I don't think like young girls like coming out of college should be able to teach high school. Bryan: Yeah, but we got thirty something year old chicks, fucking sixteen year old kids. To me that that Jason: I know. Yeah, yeah. I don't know I don't I don't know where that's going, but you when you got them ones doing twelve year old boys and thirteen, where what what's yeah, what Bryan: No, that that's just weird. I'm talking about I'm talking about a high school kid at the peak of his fucking because you at that Jason: Yeah, like a sixteen, seventeen year old dude, yeah. Bryan: age you will you gonna fuck anything. You just w and then you got Jason: dude. And th they got that Saturday Night Live skip with shoot, what is his name? he looks he's pale as hell from New York. His dad actually died in the World Trade Cent a firefighter in the World Trade Center. I forget what his name is, but people are yelling it if we cut this clip. But anyways, it dude, it's funny as hell because he was it he was in court and the two teachers were on the side. Rhonda Rousey was one was the guest for that Saturday Night Live and then one of the other girls that is a good looking girl on there and he had a two way with the two teachers and or a threesome with two teachers on the thing. And it was like, what are the other what what the other kids do to you at school? He said, I gave like two million high fives down the hall Bryan: Yeah. Jason: Yeah. It's like you know, the mom was the one making a deal about it. I mean the judge was high fiving him too, like, you go, dude, you know, and it's like what about I'm sorry, what about the the Republican Congresswoman from Colorado? Isn't she getting Bryan: I don't fucking know. Jason: Something about sexual harassment? What what's her name? Gosh dang it. Bryan: I don't know, dude. We already forty minutes into this thing. Jason: All right, but anyways, that's yeah. I d I totally Bryan: Ha ha ha. Jason: understand. we were talking about you never hear complaints about women going in dudes bathrooms. So as a as a father, no. I d I don't want a man in a woman's bathroom. Bryan: No, I don't think any man I don't think any woman wants a man. Well, I can't say any woman. I I don't want a man in a woman's bathroom. There's gonna be some people that won't mind because evidently they're fighting over this issue. Jason: And kids should not have a choice whether or not they get their junk cut off or added or whatever you're getting done. They they shouldn't have a that shouldn't no. Bryan: And we make all they make these things a big issue. And I can't understand why, because transgender people are such a small part of our population. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Yeah. According to the CDC from t 2021 to 2023, they came up with the following and regarding the transgender population. About point eight percent of adults, two point one million identify as transgender. Three point three percent of youth ages thirteen to seventeen. 724,000 identifies as transgender. 1% of people ages 13 plus 2.8 million identify as transgender. Younger people drive the numbers. About a quarter of the people who identify as transgender are 13 to 17 years old. Even though that age group is only 8% of the population. Gallup 2024 to 2025 puts the transgender identification among All adults around 1.1 to 1.3%. And the broader LGBTQ plus identification is about 9% of adults. Bisexual is the largest slice of that group, not transgender. These figures are self-identification, not counts of people who have had hormones or surgery. The number who have received medical transition as minors is far smaller than the identification rate. Also, I want to note that the support for medical sex change interventions for children is a minority position in most national post polls. All right. So from the polls, it seems that most Americans agree that sex change for children is wrong. Yet this is something that is in front and center of the fight between both parties. We're fighting over something that affects less than 3% of the population. Then your ex, then Brian. Why are transgender rights so prevalent when the transgender population is so small? It's because it is a high conflict, low personal contact issue, not because most Americans live with it day to day. A lot of people don't even personally know someone who is trans, but institutions and media reward controversy. It becomes a proxy war about sex, children, and who controls the rules. The argument is rarely should two million adults Be allowed to live privately as they wish. Oddly, most of the arguments are about places where sex was already used as the rule to sort people, like girls and women's sports. There's a fucking reason why girls and women sports exist and it's just not sports. You know, bathrooms, prisons. There's a reason that there's men and women bathrooms, men and women prisons. Yeah. Why are we fighting about this now? War we roam the whole time, and all of a sudden somebody's gonna show us what's right? It it doesn't make sense. And those settings affect other people outside of just the transgender person. But yet they're fighting for that 3% or less than 3% more than they're fighting for the 97%. A one percent group can still force every school, hospital, sports league, and HR department to pick the definition of a woman. In my opinion, this should be a non-issue. You want to be a transgender, good for you. If you're old enough to consent to this transition and our tax dollars aren't paying for it, fuck do you. I respect that. You know, just be normal. Just go about your fucking day. But don't demand the whole country to join your delusion. A small group does not get to rewrite the rules for every school, locker room, prison. sports league and then call the disagreement we have with that hate speech. Doesn't make sense. And why are we fighting over this shit when we have so many other issues to address? Do you agree with that, Jason? Jason: Yeah. No, I did. I mean I think they just have people, man, that just come up with shit that they know will cause a bunch of problems between people. Bryan: They like that drama. Jason: Yeah, they do 'cause they what did we always say? They don't want us coming together. Bryan: Not even a little bit. They're Jason: No. Bryan: gonna take one, three to one percent of our country, and they're gonna make you fight over it. Doesn't make any damn sense. When most people don't even agree with it. But they're gonna polarize that to make you look like a bigot. Because someone's doing something that's against the norm and you have an opinion about it, and your opinion is now hate speech. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Because you don't agree with them. Fucked up. All right, real quick before we keep going, if this makes sense or shit, even if you don't like us and you're still listening, do one thing that actually helps two regular guys keep doing this shit. Like it, share it, follow it, subscribe. Send it to a friend that thinks the problem is with their neighbor with the wrong yard sign. The show doesn't grow because a party machine pushes it, it grows because people pass it to other people. The Sins and Sisters Podcast brought to you by two knuckleheads that love this country. All right, let's get back to the show. So I heard this woman earlier this week giving this speech about wanting a gay son. And I was talking to you about this earlier, but I haven't showed it to you yet. So check this shit out. How you feel about that? Jason: That's weird. Bryan: It's weird, huh? To want your kid to be another Jason: Be gay because you think that gay sons are the best sons and you wanna be that mother that carries a picket sign around and will beat the shit out of people that pick on her kid and Bryan: It's weird. If your kid's gay, I I get it. Jason: That's like saying you want your kid to be have cancer or be born with something like Down syndrome or something like that so you can advocate because nothing makes a parent more prouder than being able to advocate for their kid. Bryan: It's she's more about what she needs from her kid than what her kid needs. Jason: Yeah. What it gives her instead of what her kid gets. Bryan: And I think there's a lot of parents like that that like the virtue signal b through their child. And, you know, whether their child's transgender, whether their child's gay. And if you have a gay child, be proud of them. You know, I have no problem with that. But I don't think you should try to force sexual preference on any child. Jason: Talking about how I got pictures of my son in high heels and full drag and he knew all Bryan: Yeah, that it Jason: the I mean, she was probably pushing it. And he probably Bryan: Exactly. You don't do Jason: got older and was like, This ain't this don't feel right. Bryan: And you don't think that can hurt his development? I mean, I'm not even Jason: yeah. Bryan: saying as a man, I'm talking about mentally. His mental development. If you have someone constantly telling you that and I don't know what she did, but it's if she's dressing him up. So she's basically saying, Hey, you you're gay. And and he might have tendency that he wants to be with someone. And don't get me wrong, I can see it the other way around too, whereas you you have a gay child and you constantly Jason: And you try to work the gay out of Bryan: Yeah, I can see I mean that's wrong also. I understand that. But going out there and and advocating for it because you're gonna carry a picket sign and beat the hell out of someone, that just sounds like that's more about you. You know? And again, I mean I have no issues with gay people at all. I don't. But I don't think you should try to push any sexual preference on your child. You you're not raising a play toy. You know what I'm getting at? You're raising a human being to function in society. It's as simple as that. And that right there, if they have more parents doing that, I mean, to me, that's hindering your child's development. And it it could really fuck their psyche up. So why are we fighting about all this shit? Because it distracts you from the shit that really matters. So what do Americans believe are the real problems? we're just gonna run through them. We've got money in politics, healthcare affordability, inflation, high prices, parties working together in Washington, federal budget deficit, and drug addiction. So what does this show us about the concerns of American people? Not Republicans and Democrats, the fucking American people. This is what the red-blooded American people are concerned about. What the people of this great nation want is not complicated. Make basics cheaper. Your healthcare, your housing, your groceries, utilities. You know, when was the last time that you just looked at a utility bill and wasn't mad? Or a grocery bill? You know, you don't, you don't ever pick up, I know we don't, you pick up your utility bill and go, man, until it gets the winter time or something, or like the fall, and it's like, man, it finally dropped. But in the summertime, you look at a utility bill, you're like, fuck, you like gotta go take out another mortgage. You know. How about how about this? How about you pass a fucking budget? Do do we ever pass a budget from last year yet? Jason: I d I don't think we have, have we? Bryan: I I don't know. I don't know what we do anymore. We just kick it down the Jason: Kick the can down the road. And Bryan: How about term limits? Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: Well, let's get rid of some of these career politicians. I think a lot of us can agree on that. About ban stock trading for members of Congress and their spouses. Jason: that's not r that's not wrong, Brian. We don't have any insider info. We don't Bryan: No. They do an e Jason: we don't vote on shit that affects companies that affects their stock. Hmm. Bryan: How about we treat drug addiction like it's a national problem and not just a local one? Jason: There's an old drug issue. Brian. Bryan: I I think this is simple shit we can all agree on, right? This shit ain't new. I this is shit we all can agree on for some time now, but we don't discuss Jason: Hey, Newsom's fighting for homeless people, so shut up. Bryan: shit, dude. I seen earlier today and I didn't see nothing on Newsom, but no, I seen the top three Jason: Sorry. Bryan: cities that are with homeless people and they was showing LA. Man, the amount of tents they got out there is unfucking believable. Jason: Looks like Woodstock or something. Bryan: no man, I'm talking like organized, like in rows, like like you go to a trailer park, it's like a tent park, but on the street. Jason: Yeah. it looks like a military yeah. Tent part. Yeah. That's funny. It's not funny, but I Bryan: No, it's it's it's sad funny. And what's real was really sad is all the tents look the same. So that means somebody gave them to them, you know, and set that up. So there's money being put into that, and then they I guess they're trying to help them, but what what what's what's causing that? You know? Let's figure that out. And we can agree on a lot of shit, but shared problems make people look in the same direction. And because that would bring you together, and we would see all the they thems for what they really are. And they don't want that. We've been fighting about abortion for over forty years. There's room for an ugly compromise. Most people could live with. Not the extremists, most people. I would like to believe that most people will agree on abortion at some level of circumstance. Whether it be rape, incest, you know, a cutoff of so many weeks being pregnant. Something can be agreed upon by the people. This won't make everybody happy, but I think there can be some kind of agreement. You know, you're gonna still have people that. they don't want don't want abortion no matter what. You can't have an abortion. And then you'll still have people that'll think that you can terminate a child at birth. I think those are the extremes though. But I still feel like we can find some middle ground there and there's room for discussion. I don't think it has to be the sense of there's no abortion or you kill a child when it's born. That's where we're at right now. There's a whole lot of shit in the middle right there that we can discuss and maybe get, you know, maybe get the majority of people on board with. Like, do you you're a very religious man. I mean, do you disagree with that? Do you think that we can find some middle ground on abortion? Jason: I don't know, man, because like I said, I still believe that it's w once something I I I try to take the religious out of it and look at it. So my wife can't get pregnant anymore because of her cancer or whatever, but we'll take my daughter, twenty-seven years old, she she gets pregnant. She goes and has an abortion, huh, no problem. But if somebody was to kill her, they get charged with double murder because she's pregnant. The baby has rights in that. point, but what if my daughter decides to abort it, it doesn't have right. I don't get that's a double standard to me. You see where I'm getting at with that? So Bryan: No, I'm just done, huh? Jason: I don't I don't agree with that. Or if the if the woman, you know, decides that I'm gonna get an abortion, but the guy that got her pregnant says, No, I want to keep the baby, the woman gets to decide that because it's in the woman's body. But if the guy doesn't want the woman to have the baby, Because he don't want to pay child support and she keeps the baby, he's obligated to pay child support. There's your double standard again. I just don't I don't agree with it. and I think that if you go and look at the amount of abortions that were due because of rape or incest, I might be able to i if somebody goes and files for rape, like as soon as the rape happens, then I'm fine for the morning after pill. You see what I'm saying? Bryan: Mm-hmm. Jason: But once you get in there and there's an embryo growing and all that stuff, I think sorry, it's Bryan: See Jason: Because I I guarantee if you go and pull the numbers, I betcha the rape and incest abortions that have ever happened in the United States are a minute a grain of sand in the in the beach that we were on, right? One little piece of sand on that beach. The ones where people just do it because Yeah. Yes. Bryan: When you compare it to how many abortions they were having. Right. Using when especially when they were using the abortion pill as basically you shouldn't, in my opinion, you shouldn't use that at exactly. Jason: Yeah, as a contraceptive. Yeah. Bryan: Having said that, I still think there should be some room for abortions for those type of issues. That's just me. I I look at it more in I don't look at it from a religious way. I just look at it how it can affect your life in certain ways. And when I'm saying that is, you know, if you're looking at incest, rape, or even I hate to even say this, even if you haven't sex unprotected and and you had you got pregnant, I still believe that within a certain time frame, you you should be able to take care of that, you know, through abortion, whether that's 12 weeks, 16 weeks, I don't think once you get to that I think you can determine, all right, this is your cutoff. I also believe that it shouldn't you shouldn't have be able to have multiple ones. Okay, we'll acknowledge a mistake. You know, we don't want you to fuck your life up at 16 years old. You made a mistake or whatnot. You know, you had an abortion. But when you come in in the abortion clinic every fucking week trying to say, I don't like that. You know? And and a lot of people would disagree with me because they're saying, hey, look, you you playing with fire, and you play with fire, you get burned. I understand that. But there's a lot of things you play with fire with, and you still get away with it, you know. That's just how I feel about it. And I think there's some room for that, to for to have those discussions. And I don't think that me and you could agree on everything. But I think the problem is, is they want you. To get to a point to where me and you are going to agree on every point. We're not. That's Jason: No. Bryan: why you have a compromise. And it's going to be some. Jason: Even though we both support weapons and you know, have been trained and all that stuff and you know what I'm saying? And you you've been through more classes because of concealed carry. I haven't been to one yet. We both own firearms and we both agree that that's our God given right. But I guarantee if you like dug into the total laws of it, there might be some stubb me and you don't agree on on weapons. You know what I'm saying? Bryan: There's some room on weapons too. I mean, I agree that Jason: Yeah. Bryan: you need to have a background check. I also agree that you need to be mentally stable to own a weapon. You know, I agree with those things. I think there's Jason: Yes. Yes. Bryan: some room for discussion in that also. But we don't have those discussions because it doesn't become a discussion anymore. You just start fighting with each other because you're right. You don't want to listen to the other person and compromise and say, okay, well, all right, I'll I'll give you that. Well, how about this? It all right, look, and you work back and forth. You're not gonna get everything you want. I'm not gonna get everything I want, but we can put something on the table and say, look, this is what the majority of people agree with, and this is what we can live with. This staying all the way to this side and all the way to this side and saying this is where we need to meet. Kind of like with Trump right now, with the Iran war. You know, when he at first he said you got to have unconditional surrender. You know, no matter what, you gotta unconditionally surrender to us. And they're like, We're not gonna unconditionally. So you're never gonna find. a common ground to where you can come to a peace deal with that because they're too far apart because they're lockstepped in extremes. I find it's the same way with this stuff. We get too lockstepped in streams. I understand people have their faith, but there's also people that don't believe that way. And we all have to live together. And we have to find a way to where we can still be civil with each other, discuss these things, and come together as a country instead of just using these examples To just fight all the fucking time. Why are we still fighting about that? It's ridiculous to still be fighting about that. You know? Jason: 'Cause I told you they don't want us to come together. Bryan: They don't. Jason: They don't want us to compromise, Brian. They want us to be at odds with one another. Bryan: Yeah, and I I don't think the prop Jason: You either for The Undertaker or Stone Cold, damn it, Brian. Geez, you can't be for both. You can't just w you Bryan: Yeah. It can't be for both. Jason: can't ride the fence. It's in the Bible. You can't be you can't be Yeah. Can't be lukewarm. You're either cold or hot. Bryan: You can't have a stone code Undertaker. They what happened if they became a tag team? Jason: I just disown this place. Shit. Until Bryan: They would they would have to kill each other. Jason: it happened, then I'd be like, Man, that's pretty damn cool. I was always hoping they'd come together. Bryan: That see the problem is is that Americans, they're not incapable of compromise. The problem is that the leaders treat compromise as betrayal, you know, just like you were just saying. That's the problem. It just like The Undertaker and shit. Jason: I know. Yeah. You're betraying your party, Brian. Bryan: All a nutin, dude. All a nutin. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Yep. The reason we can't get any resolution style issues is because our political leaders have us fighting with an all or nothing mentality. God forbid you change your mind just a little bit, just like us with MAGA. You know, I I don't even consider myself MAG anymore. I get so much bullshit. But you gotta have that all enough. If you don't back Trump a hundred percent, you know, even if you don't like what he wore that day, you you fucking in trouble. Yeah, it's Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Bryan: it's that damn stupid. So what has gotten better in the last 50 years and in your lifetime? What has gotten better? Jason: Yeah. Bryan: 'Cause of the internet and shit and order and stuff. Jason: Yeah. Stuff like that. I mean in it in people's minds when I look at it that that but it's killed them all, it's killed you know, it it's killed a lot of business outside of that. You know, when you like some places like I told you in Omaha, we ordered that thing fifteen minutes later, we get a we get a thing and we think a drone dropped it off 'cause they're using those drones over there. Bryan: They better shot it out of a cannon. Jason: Yeah. So Louisville. Bryan: Parachute. Jason: Louisville's got a big Amazon warehouse over there. So you can order stuff there and get it same day. Here it takes, you know, three days or whatever, but still three days isn't shit compared to what it used to be to get stuff. So Bryan: And you don't have to run around town looking for it. Jason: No, hell no. You ain't gotta waste gas. I don't gotta get around people. Bryan: Yeah, so Jason: I don't have to deal with traffic and all them Kamala Harris drivers. Sorry for anybody that I've done that to. Sorry, I need to stop doing I really do. I need to stop doing that. I'll try to put that in the clip too, but it probably won't make it. But anyways, I might put a disclaimer down on the title. But it yeah, it convenience to me. But like fast foods went downhill. I mean, it takes d how many times I get parked at McDonald's? How hard is it to make a damn cheeseburger, people? Cheeseburger Eddie Bryan: Sure. Jason: had them on him all the time on the longest yard, dude. He was always pulling them out. Science. Yeah. And Bryan: Science. Science. Jason: why can't we keep our fries hot? Stop pulling my fries out if my damn burger ain't ready. Pull my fries last. Gosh, dang. I'm on a rant tonight. Bryan: Well you got d see, you y you failed on the st you still think you're eating potatoes. Jason: I told you I found a hash brown in the back of my in the toolbox of my work truck. I Bryan: Yeah. Yeah. Jason: guarantee, Brian, it'd been there six months. Seven months, it had no mold on it. It looked just like it came out the fryer, other than it was cold. I didn't eat it. Bryan: What did it taste like? You don't lie. You know you tried it. You warmed it up. You put it you you went home and put it in the air fryer and tried it again. You know you did. Science. Jason: I didn't. Ask Holly. I don't she eats the hash browns. I don't eat Yeah. It's like, yeah, si I'm gonna do this for science. Science. So but no, it's yeah. Bryan: So we fight over our political issues as if our political Jason: Yes. Bryan: party was taking care of the taxpayers' money and looking how far our we're being, right? And we're Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: constantly told that if the other party wins, we're doomed. But what has really gotten better? And healthcare itself has gotten better. People live longer than they did 50 years ago. Therefore, the healthcare industry found a way to keep you alive longer, right? Jason: They make more money off you. Bryan: According to health systemtracker.org, the U.S. now spends about 17% of its GDP on health, far more than any other country. Yet our life expectancy has fallen behind these countries. Healthcare was around 7% GDP in the early 70s and is around 17, 18% of GDP today. Now, health affordability is worse now than it was 50 years ago. Even for households with insurance. Why? Because the cost of health care rose faster than your wage. In some reports, healthcare over the last 50 years rose at least twice as fast as the wages. If you're older, you know that healthcare is expensive, and that cost is what keeps most people locked into jobs that they don't want to do. Healthcare will keep you working well past the time you should have retired because you can't afford to lose your health insurance. Health insurance is one of the major mechanisms that keep people working longer than expected. So they are able to keep you living longer than you used to fifty years ago, but you can't afford to keep living. It's kind of a fucking issue. Jason: You're in a quagmire here, Brian. Bryan: Yeah, you spend your last years of your life struggling, just like the American dream. Jason: Did we not talk about that on vacation? And by the way, people sorry for not having anything out for a little while. We were we were both enjoying a long needed vacation together. with our spouses and my daughter. but anyways, we we talked about healthcare kind of keeps us around our job. Bryan: Yeah, it keeps you stuck in the job. I mean, without healthcare, you're pretty much fucked. Jason: You're Yeah. Bryan: Yeah, and it's expensive as shit to do it on yourself. And it's nice to have healthcare insurance with your job. But it does lock Jason: It is. Bryan: you into your job. Jason: It does. And in order to go find something else, if you feel like your job is causing your hell to go down, I mean, it's hard to find something with good health care. So if if your job offers good health care, they got you by the balls again. It's almost like being in a relationship that you want to get out of, but Bryan: It costs you more to leave. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: That's all relationships. That's most jobs in all relationships. Jason: Yeah. Hey, I say this with love and she knows that I've told her too. They there was a lot of times I wanted to bounce, but I'd I'd I got flashes of of two kids' child support payments and I was like, I think we can work this out. Bryan: Yeah, you want a kick in the nuts, pay child support. Jason: Yeah, you you did. I I didn't. so I meant not a and and everybody's different, right? Everybody's situation different. Mine wasn't abusive or anything like that. It's just sometimes you just get fed up with one another and you want to bounce and then all of sudden you've known people that had to pay that child support and you remember their conversations and them writing that check every payday to their spouse back when you had to do that. Now they Now they can just have it taken out of your check. But Bryan: But look how much better you are now today that you tough you toughed it out. Jason: yeah. I mean going on thirty two years of marriage in Bryan: See? Jason: December, so Bryan: You took the disposable realm that everybody's in now and you fought through it. You done what a lot of people wouldn't do, what I didn't do. So I applaud you for that. So Jason: Right. Right. Right. Well, and I was gonna bring that up earlier in your thing about compromise and stuff, but I was like, shit. Brian's been divorced. it's kinda like a marriage. You gotta compromise in a marriage. I Bryan: You do? Jason: mean you you're married again and it's not like you found Brian Maeon with with boobies and a vagina. I mean, j your wife's different than you are. Bryan: No d there's a lot of compromise. But between both of us though. Jason: Yes. Well yeah, because I'm not gonna lie and I've got my problems too, but I know you too and and you're you're hard headed and shit like that. Bryan: yeah. Well I I was just thinking of the other day for putting up with my shit. So I know I know I'm hard to deal with. Jason: But yet I was with you for a week and damn, I think there was two conversations. I was about to run that damn car off the road. Be like Bryan: yeah. My my wife, yeah, she she does she she does a lot of compromise. I'm not gonna lie. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: But yeah, you have to compromise. And I I and I'm realizing Jason: Yeah, if you wanna if for anybody out there that wants to test their patience or needs to work on their patience, maybe email us at the sense and senseless podcast at outlook dot com and Brian might be able to call you and have a long conversation with you and see where your patience is. But I love you. I love you. Bryan: I I just think a little differently. Love you too, buddy. All right, let's keep moving on. Let's talk about our drug abuse. Our drug abuse is worse than it was 50 years ago. And that's for both prescription and illegal drugs. I would believe we all know someone affected by drug addiction, whether it's legal or illegal. Think about it. Xanax is one of the most highly addictive drugs that you just can't stop using as shit. The University of Alabama report. Approximately thirty point five million prescriptions of filled each year. Roughly three point four million Americans on Xanax. When you include all benzos, the total filled each year exceeds ninety million each year. Inflation was higher in the seventies and then it came down in the nineties through the twenty tens, but COVID caused the inflation to climb again. Money in politics is way worse today than it was in the seventies. Most of it is because of the PACs and the super PACs we discussed in a couple episodes and how corporations put all this money into these political parties and Jason: Mm-hmm. By vote. Bryan: And not just corporations. We might have some countries that do that. Jason: He paid. Bryan: Apex. I mean, most politicians don't need your donations today. I mean, they all well funded and paid for. Jason: They don't need your vote. Bryan: Well, I think they need your vote. And the only reason I say that is they need the illusion that you voted. Yeah. Because if nobody shows Jason: That that you're voted for so that they won. Bryan: up to the polls and they got, you know, eight million votes and it's like, well. Jason: That looks a little suspicious. Bryan: That's a little suspicious. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: So you you gotta show up on on election day, you know, to make it look like you actually did what you were supposed to do. You know, and make sure you get that illusion that you had a choice. But in reality, I mean, the lobbyists and the big donors control what the politicians do. You know, they might throw you a bone, but that's about it. Our country's debt is much worse than it was fifty years ago. Both parties have repeatedly won election promising cheaper living, less fiscal waste, less corruption, better health care, and a government that works. Over decades, they have not delivered a durable win on that bundle. Each side delivers branded wins for their coalition. Both parties have failed the average American on things like affordability, fiscal restraint, and a government that does not look captured. By corporations in other countries. Neither party is the taxpayer's party on the issue the taxpayers say they share. Each is a coalition party that uses the issues of the average American as a fucking campaign slogan and then governs for its donors. Our politicians are hand in hand with the they thems. They are not there to represent you, the ma average American. They're there to push an agenda that helps them stay in office while making everyone around them richer, all while we fight over issues they create. It's the fucking infomercial model. You know, they create the fucking problem you don't have and give you the solution you don't fucking need. Thing, Jason. Jason: That's the same way that medicine is, right? Bryan: yeah, great. yeah. We I I mean I started Jason: They they create diseases, so we have to take medicine for it. That's how the damn pharma big pharma works. So I mean that's how polit somebody wrote this shit and like I said, wrestling, politics, big pharma. Bryan: I did a little digging and a lot of people that probably listen to this probably already know, but you know, into the Rockefellers and the and the pharmaceuticals and shit. We're gonna discuss that one week too. It was it was pretty interesting on basically how they make us sick. You know, and then give us a pill to make us better. Fucking infomercial. So what's the answer? And you would think, fuck them, right? Let's start a let's start a third party, you know, for the people in the middle. Sounds reasonable, right? And the truth is, it it is the reasonable way to think. But history proves it's not practical. First, the money. Not having enough money to run a campaign is a huge issue. The two party system has huge donors. The kind of money that can get a dementia ridden Politician elected president. Think about that. That's how much money they have. They have someone that could barely walk and couldn't make a complete sentence and he won an election. that is still tough for me to fucking appeal for me to swallow. It is tough for someone without the backing of some serious deep pockets to win an election. Ex Thomas Massey. He'll tell you that. Now, there were some third party challenges for presidency that made some noise. And the most notable one in my lifetime was Ross Perot. Back in 1992, Ross Perot ran on things that matter to the people. The deficit in the debt. He talked about How Washington is captured by the PACs back then. They didn't I don't think they had the super PACs with the PACs. trade and jobs. He thought NAFTA was a a fucking joke and it was just gonna take all our industry away from us and send it to Mexico. He was pretty much right. He wanted term limits and a shorter campaign season. And he was anti two party. He said both parties created the mess. And decent people go to DC and lose touch with the average American. And Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: all that is true today. Nothing's changed. But he couldn't win. Both parties attacked him. They took some of his talking points and made it theirs. Now, once you believe your party will help, this is this is what happened with Ross Perot. Ross Perot came in with these ideas, and the Democrat and Republican Party would pick up. On a few of these things and they would make it theirs. So now once your party says something like, How about term limits? Well, now it's their idea because you're going to hear more from the Republican and Democratic Party than you are from an independent because they don't have the money or they don't have the media backing them or, you know, pushing, pushing their jargon. So Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: now they said it. You see what I'm getting at? They're stealing from them and just getting getting in line and taking that. From him and now he he he's losing air in his sale. Not only does it not have money, but the shit he was campaigning on that nobody else was campaigning on, they're still in that shit. They Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: don't do nothing with it, but it's a good fucking talking point. Jason: Yep. Bryan: Yeah. Jason: Tickling ears. Bryan: Yeah. And the other thing is, is once you start doing that and you get the Republican or Democrat to start saying some of the things that the independent's saying, then you start thinking, well, the independent can't win. You know, he might only take ten percent of the votes, and that's going to take away from the other party that can win. And then the person you don't want in there is going to win. So why should I even vote for the independent? And that's why you can't fucking get an independent in. This two-party system has it just locked. And unless you limit the amount of money spent on campaigns, I don't think we'll ever get someone in like that. I thought when Trump came in, if he could have won as an independent, I'd had more hope. But since Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: he had to pick someone it someone had to pick him up, that even shows that even him needed a party behind him, you know, to win. So I got a video from 1992 of Ross Perosa's speech that he gave. It's It's about four minutes long. I'm gonna stop it in the middle 'cause I wanna go over some things with you. All right. So is there anything you disagree with so far? Jason: That dude was like a prophet, man. Bryan: It's sad. I mean, the same problems he's seen in 1992, we're seeing right now in 2026. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: And if you remember, if if you was part of that time, all you seen was Ross Perot with big ears. They would talk about how much of it. Yeah. Jason: Little short dude with a mouth, yeah. Bryan: And that's all they talked about. It was like they made him like a troll and he was the idiot. And you've seen Jason: Yeah. Yep. Bryan: that replayed on television over and over and over again. But if you listen to him, it's like, That's ain't the same person they projecting to us. Yeah. And it's kind of fucked up. Well, it's not it's not kind of fucked up, it's really fucked up. Let's keep going. Let's see. Let's see how much of a prophet he was. I was just thinking if that man would've won, he would have probably been assassinated. Jason: yeah. Bryan: Made a lot of sense back then. That was nineteen Jason: Yep. Bryan: ninety two. Jason: Yep. Bryan: We're being played by both parties and people are so hell bent at being right and not wanting to admit they're wrong that they're gonna go to fight for these parties no matter what. The the fights they put on your screen, the cultures, the symbols. Who is the trader this week? It's just a cheap product that they keep you fighting over. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: The expensive product is your health care premium, your rent, the interest on the US debt. A debt that you didn't vote to run up. You know, we have a government that answers to the checks written by the donor and the elite class, not the average American taxpayer. Both parties know your concerns and your needs. They're not ignorant to what American taxpayers want. They won't fix the issues of the American taxpayer because every real fix creates an enemy with the lobbyists or a huge donor. You know, it it it's hard to fix price of medicine when the pharmaceutical companies are the reason you're in the office. So they feed you shit from the list we can't agree on until you pick a jersey, red or blue. You'll pick your poison. A party that ran on lowering costs, bringing down a debt, and stop selling your government to the highest bidder would be an obvious team to support. But shit, we just seen right there, couldn't even support Ross Perot. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: When that kind of candidate shows up outside the political machine, the political machine crushes them, steals the slogans, and tells you he's a fucking crazy loon. It's not a mystery, it's a fucking business model. The rules are built so a third party for some people can't survive. Even when you have a third party candidate that has the right intentions, like Ross Perot. It makes sense. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: That's why we'll never have a Jason: I mean it's Bryan: third party. Jason: I mean, it just makes me laugh and giggle that people still stay far left and far right and Bryan: Yes. Jason: I mean, you guys are the ones drinking the Kool Aid. I'm not. I don't know how to fix the shit, but I don't sit here and think that I don't realize it's we're getting played by both sides. Bryan: Yeah, we're getting played. Getting played like a motherfucking fiddle. Jason: Yep. Bryan: Now, if this episode hit you in some kind of way, or if you think we're full of shit and just want to say why, don't just scream in the comment section and disappear. Email us at the Senson Senseless Podcast at Outlook.com. I know it's a long damn email, but the Sensin Senseless Podcast at Outlook.com. Tell us what you think. You know, tell us what you wish your politicians would shut up about. Tell us what you wish we would shut up about. Yeah. We read that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Jason: Or tell us what you want us to talk about. Bryan: What you we're just two average guys. I mean, yeah, just give us a little bit of feedback. Trying to figure out shit, you know. We want to discuss the shit that concerns everyone. We're trying to do it in a way that we all understand this shit. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: So in closing, the they them just keep you fighting with each other so you don't look up and see what the problem isn't your neighbor with a different political sign in New York. The problem is with the people in DC that they're there for themselves and not to represent you. Once you see that, the whole show changes. You stop asking, how do I destroy the other team? You start asking, Why does neither team fix the shit we already agree on? Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Now, we're not telling you to quit Karen. We're telling you to stop letting the political and elite class use you as soldiers in their fight against your neighbor. These people hate you. They don't understand you. You're just a tool at their disposal. And you should look at them the exact same fucking way as a tool at your disposal. We're sold on our political beliefs. We can't be wrong. We can't compromise all or nothing. So we double down on stupid. And continue to suggest this political machine. Sadly, though, that is likely how this great country is gonna fall. Jason, you got anything to add? All right, guys, thanks for joining us. We appreciate every single one of you. This is the Simpsons Senses podcast. I am Brian. Here's Jay's home. Peace. Jason: I'm Jason. Peace.