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- 0:05All system's gone clear the lift on What's up? Remember one Tyler Tamberline here
- 0:38aka Totag and Tambo. Back for another edition of the Monday First Look Golf
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- 1:00the way in. Got my guy here, Hoopster with me has always got
- 1:02to give a shout out, go collect first in off the top. A
- 1:04lot of good sweats this week, a lot of good wins this week.
- 1:07We'll cover that and congratulate everyone here with the Nation celebration here in just a
- 1:11minute. But Hoopster Xander times two, we got the double major. He
- 1:15was a loser who could never win a tournament, but now he's got two
- 1:19majors. What was your thoughts on the open? We'll cover that quick.
- 1:22Yeah. I mean a guy that you know couldn't win until he started winning,
- 1:26and now he just took home his second major, huge accomplishment. You
- 1:33know, he's ascending obviously to the top. I mean, we have Scottie,
- 1:37you know, number one, I think still you know, up there
- 1:38in a tier of zone. But you know, Xander's on the doorstep kind
- 1:42of kind of knocking, getting close to opening that door. And it's been
- 1:47a phenomenal run for him. Just very well rounded golfer. I mean,
- 1:51all these guys are, all the top guys are very well rounded, but
- 1:53it just seems like with him, he just does everything very well. He'd
- 1:57been in contention a ton of obviously before these wins started falling into place.
- 2:01But you know, sometimes all it takes is one to get that confidence going,
- 2:06and you know, just you know, kind of dusted the field yesterday
- 2:08and got the job done. So congratulations to him for sure. You know,
- 2:14it was a funny amount. Obviously what didn't have my greatest week.
- 2:16Mister McElroy had had other plans. I took a big stance on him and
- 2:22did not work out so well. And it's the beauty of what we do.
- 2:24You you forget about it, you move on and we have a whole
- 2:29new week of events to contest to look forward to. But there were a
- 2:35lot of winners within the community. I mean the showdown stuff was huge.
- 2:38I know DJN won fifty thousand dollars plus, and you know, a bunch
- 2:42of other members got the job done too, So you know, it's what
- 2:46we always talked about. It's a community around here, you know, community
- 2:49feel you know, I didn't have my greatest week, but man, I
- 2:52love seeing our community take down some big, big scores this week and big
- 2:58amounts of money back to our community. So congratulations with all the winners.
- 3:01You got to tweet up. You can kind of go through it and break
- 3:04it down for everyone. But it was a big week within the community yet
- 3:07again, and just a note too, like even just the joke of Xander
- 3:09like knocking at the door and you know, the the djen or he could
- 3:13he you know, he might not win anything until he does like that.
- 3:15That's the kind of thing here. New One said had some huge sweats.
- 3:17I know lsu Nick, who's usually in here, probably in here shortly he
- 3:21had a couple of sweats. I was up there in the Millie Maker and
- 3:23the five dollars. I ended up like twenty second in the eight eighty eight
- 3:27with a five of six you just you just got to keep putting yourself into
- 3:30contention, and that's where it's gonna happen. No different than what we saw
- 3:32with Xander keeps putting himself there and then takes down two majors in the same
- 3:37year. I do want to say quick before we do the celebration of the
- 3:39nation. First off, virtual time stamps for all the people that like to
- 3:43complain. We are going to go through and celebrate the wins across our community
- 3:46on a free show every single time, every single week. So if you
- 3:49don't want to hear about it, jump ahead. If you do, we'll
- 3:51cover it. But real quick. We did this contest at the start of
- 3:53the year. It came down if you know, here's the thing, it's
- 3:57actually hard to pick the exact winners of all four majors. Only nine people
- 4:01picked two exact major winners, right, and then Kelly Bergland was the winner
- 4:08in the end of the random draw out of the nine. So shout out
- 4:11to Kelly. Kelly is going to reach out today they said they were a
- 4:13PGA only member. They will now get the six ninety nine all access membership
- 4:16for the next twelve months for free. So we do take care of our
- 4:19contests down the road, even when they are months from when we began,
- 4:24right, we started that one way back before the Masters. As for the
- 4:27winners this week, just another ton of them again, we'll go through it
- 4:30quickly. But shout out to Kenny W seventeen thirty two, eighty three thousand
- 4:33hopped in said new to town. Howdy neighbors popped up the nick the sheriff
- 4:39emoji, So that was nice to see. But a huge week for him.
- 4:42That's a good way. That's a good way to show up and you
- 4:45know, introduce yourself to the community. Hey guys, I'm here just one
- 4:49what's that number? Eighty three thousand, Ye welcome Stoche eighty two, like
- 4:59six hundred bucks. Just a huge ROI nice return on investment there. Ricardo
- 5:03back at it again, just absolutely dominates this format every single week, just
- 5:08crashing it. That is very impressive. He's always winning and then if not,
- 5:13like in contention, the name is just always up there and a good
- 5:15guy in the discord in the community. So you definitely love to see that
- 5:19for sure, one hundred percent supple up there. Four thousand bucks runner up,
- 5:24but I'll take it. Still very nice, definitely X dirk a twenty
- 5:28five hundred bucks for him. Lsu Nick was up there. He finished twenty
- 5:31fourth in the main Millie and he had the sweat overnight. I think he
- 5:34was sitting thirty third, had a real shot, same thing, ends up
- 5:38finishing twenty fourth. So nice to see that Philly Phantom on fire right now.
- 5:42So says thanks to the team, got sixteen NFL basketball tickets, cash
- 5:46first and all the ten times Multipliers wins this two thousand dollars. And I
- 5:49know it's not depicted here, but he went back the next night, just
- 5:53a week before All Star break, he said, I'm going to try and
- 5:57Q with Hebrew Cheetah into that mlbfbd WC the first Slate out that he comes
- 6:02back into the baseball he wins the thirty four to seventy ticket and he'll be
- 6:05competing in the next Mega to get into it. So just dominant, you
- 6:09know, said he's gonna do it, goes out and does it. Our
- 6:12guy Dejenner, who you talked about, just a huge weekend, not only
- 6:14from Classic Slate for calling the weather the whole way from start to finish on
- 6:18his stream, which was phenomenal again the final stream for him this year for
- 6:21the PGA season, but he'll be back for the football season. But that
- 6:25major he said would be his last stream for a little while for those wondering,
- 6:28but came out and just dominated. It was like sixty five sixty three
- 6:30thousand just in this and there was nine k in the Megamilly Off, some
- 6:34ticket wins and stuff like that. So shout up to our guy James.
- 6:38Just crush it there again for himself and for the entire community. So that
- 6:42was awesome to see. And then lastly the quick one. We went through
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- 7:12we by the way, we'll be doing one show next week on Wednesday for
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- 7:41well. Hoop, did you have anything else you want to add before we
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- 9:15good stuff going on. Shut out of Colin James, Me and you are
- 9:18on the same page. Sam Burns cost me quite a bit. I was
- 9:20sitting second in the five dollars after round three, fourteenth and the twenty five
- 9:24dollars million maker Burns in both of those lineups, and it did burn to
- 9:28watch that fall. So it's the way it goes. It's fun. We
- 9:31had a ton of fun over the weekend. Another major in the books,
- 9:33another major season in the books. Let's get on though, Let's move on
- 9:35to this three M hoop and let's talk just first grand scheme overview here,
- 9:39anything that you think of just off the top of your head. I was
- 9:43at the event last year, live with the you know, Lee Hodgers win
- 9:48there and everything going on with the Fantasy Golf World Championship. So first thoughts,
- 9:52and there's a guy, Kenny eighty three thousand dollars over the weekend.
- 9:54Shut out to Kenny, appreciate you. Lots of other good people here in
- 9:56the chat, but just nice to see everybody in here. But first on
- 10:00the three them open, let's dive into it right at the ten minute mark.
- 10:01We made it nice. Yeah, and congrats to Kenny and thanks for
- 10:05joining in you. First thing obviously easy course, Bertie Fest, weak field,
- 10:11and based on what I see on the first pay chair, pretty soft
- 10:13pricing. So those are the three things that stayed out. Bertie Fest,
- 10:18weak field, soft pricing in terms of DraftKings. Pretty straightforward for me.
- 10:22That's that's what I think of with this event, and then combining it with
- 10:26what I see in the first pay chair pricing. He's back. Rinz here
- 10:30Ivier w d last week, by the way, shut out the Nick Dunlap.
- 10:33Just an absolute baller. If you watched him last night, the fifty
- 10:37five foot eagle at the Barracuda. He's in the field. We'll talk about
- 10:39him when we get there in a minute. But if you I mean I'm
- 10:41a degenerate, I'm watching all this stuff. You know it. So I'm
- 10:43going out there. Patrick Rogers. If you wondered why this guy can't win,
- 10:48just go watch the highlights of yesterday again. Nine holes to figure it
- 10:50out, and the guy just cannot do a thing. He puts it in
- 10:52the fairway and then makes every mistake possible thereafter my boy Mac Meisner Mark Messiers
- 10:58Mad likes to call him, but we were trying to get him to the
- 11:01finish line yesterday and he couldn't get the job done either. So, you
- 11:05know, just lots of other good stuff. Andrew who's always helping out.
- 11:07I give him the gears sometimes. But he said, finally had a good
- 11:11profit being close to the last month, tanuking, let's keep the train rolling,
- 11:13thanks for it all it does for its members, so love to see
- 11:16that. And then one more set up to Jason. This is Bader Bear
- 11:20in the discord. He is giving so for members watching, He's given away
- 11:24one hundred dollars single entry ticket. You'll want to be in the discord this
- 11:26afternoon. It's going to be the first two hundred to get in. He's
- 11:30gonna maximize it. It's gonna be a free role. But whoever wins that
- 11:33is going to get one hundred dollars single entry that they can use for the
- 11:35Olympics or if they want to save it for the Windom. And yeah,
- 11:39rin on brand with the EVR open so like that. And lastly, Nick
- 11:43ship my first contest of any kind in over three years. I could never
- 11:46ship a contest till I could. And that's what it's all about. What
- 11:50right, keeping yourself in the game, bankroll management, contest selection, the
- 11:54sustainability of the ecosystem, being able to be in there and be around for
- 11:58when your time comes. So yeah, some crazy prices shout out to you,
- 12:01Pam two sixty seven hundred Davis Riley, All right, let's get into
- 12:05it, Birdie Fest. Like you talked about it. We did cheat a
- 12:07little bit right pre show just said, is the five K range in there?
- 12:09It's not so interesting On a couple notes, One, it makes sense
- 12:13we only have a ten to five tony finaw, so it's not like a
- 12:16twelve K or a twelve five and two. We don't want to see,
- 12:20you know, I don't want to see anywhere like a five K range just
- 12:22with one hundred guys thrown in it, just because I kind of liked that
- 12:24they kept it back to the normal price setup when we don't have a Scotty
- 12:28or a Rory that's going to blow away the field on paper. Mind you,
- 12:31Fino is a pretty big favorite, so I guess I'll get your thoughts
- 12:33starting there. But only three guys who ten k about Burns who we mentioned
- 12:37Tigala and Tony Finow. Yeah, so the first thing that definitely stands out
- 12:43is yeah, no five K range, which I'm pretty happy with, but
- 12:46it's like you still without the five K range need a higher ceiling price like
- 12:50ten to five is not going to do it, just going to be very
- 12:54easy to play multiple expensive guys. Now, these aren't the typical expensive guys
- 12:58that see most weeks. This is a week field. So the top guys
- 13:03here feed now with the Galla Burns are the only three above ten k.
- 13:05But to me, what stands out even more and I just counted, so
- 13:09the average roster spot on DraftKings is eight three hundred and thirty three dollars.
- 13:15How many guys are priced above the average roster spot on DraftKings and this week
- 13:18it's only fifteen, Only fifteen, So you're gonna be able to play at
- 13:24least, you know, for the most part, three guys, three guys
- 13:28over eighty three hundred very comfortably. Most most lineups will have four, and
- 13:33you can probably i'm guessing maybe make it work with five. Does that even
- 13:35that up? Yeah, you could play five guys over the average cost of
- 13:39a roster spot and still have seven thousand dollars left if you went super balanced.
- 13:43So initially here is you know, some of these guys are are going
- 13:48to be overlooked a little bit, have low ownership. But it's going to
- 13:50be easy to play whatever you want this week. It's going to be easy
- 13:54to get in. If you want to play fee now and play a shit
- 13:56ton of feed o, it's gonna be very easy to do. That seem
- 14:00very very soft now. Specific to the ten k range, you have feenwe
- 14:03you have the Gala, you have Burns, like you said, I mean,
- 14:05I think it's female that people are most comfortable with. He's he's ten
- 14:09to one. His odds to win are much better than the others up here.
- 14:11Burns is eighteen to one and thi Gala is twenty to one, so
- 14:18you know few basically what the double you know, Thigala's double the odds twenty
- 14:26one versus ten to one on a guy like ten five. So I think
- 14:28Fenw probably gets a lot of ownership here. He's played, has he won
- 14:33this He won it right? Yeah? One, just two years ago,
- 14:35yeah, last year, third and twenty like he's crushed it here. Yeah,
- 14:39So he's got the course history he's got the successes. I think a
- 14:43lot of people will just say, yeah, I want Pheno. I'm assuming
- 14:46he's going to be very highly owned at ten to five and be very easy
- 14:48to play him. If you start your lineups with him, you still have
- 14:52seventy nine hundred dollars per roster spots. There's gonna be a lot of cheap
- 14:56guys we can consider. People always like playing Gala and then Burns at ten
- 15:01k. I mean, Billy hasn't done anything this year. I mean I
- 15:03can't really think of a time when you needed Sam Burns to win money.
- 15:07I mean, he's had some decent results ninth at the US opened, tenth
- 15:11at the Canadian Open, thirteenth at the Wells Fargo, but has not been
- 15:15great. So in terms of ownership, I think Female gets a ton,
- 15:20probably the Gala second, and then Burns would be third. When you just
- 15:24look at these these three guys at ten k and above, and yeah,
- 15:26it's kind of lame only three guys ten thousand dollars and above. It's tough
- 15:31tough sledding when you get a field like this. I hear everything you're saying
- 15:33though completely, and yeah, that would be the take for me just from
- 15:37a first look perspective and just thinking about it out loud as you talked through
- 15:39all of that. There's forty three guys in the seven K range. Now,
- 15:43there's tons of guys in the upper six k that you can get to.
- 15:46There's guys that people will like in the eight k, and so female's
- 15:48ownership has just got to be through the roof right ten to five. Only.
- 15:50You can play them in a million different ways. It doesn't matter how
- 15:54you use them. You can get them in there with the Gala or Burns.
- 15:56You can go skip down and say, I like Batia better. He's
- 15:58had better chances tournaments like this, so fin now Batia could become popular.
- 16:03But I don't know if people are gonna love Billy Horschell ninety six hundred,
- 16:07if they're gonna like to pay ninety three hundred for amateur Luke Clanton even though
- 16:11we know how good he isn't following this guy, Are people gonna want to
- 16:14click that? Maybe not right. Keegan Bradley nine thousand, By the way,
- 16:18he was the Ricky Fowler of the the Open. There to congratulate Xander
- 16:22first off, new Ryder Cup captain had to be there to give the handshake,
- 16:25so good for him, But I do think people will gravitate more to
- 16:29these eight K guys, whether it's hodges Off winning last year or Pendrith with
- 16:33a decent result yesterday at the Barracuda and makes sense here Davis has pretty good
- 16:37history here and should rate out well. McNeely eighty three hundred, so I
- 16:41could see it's more feenw and another stud or like with Bati and above.
- 16:45Really I'll say ninety eight hundred and up with few and then that's really three
- 16:49choices and then few with eight K guys that seem to stand out early on
- 16:55is where people would end up, because then you can round it out however
- 16:56you want. I just don't see a lot of people going to some of
- 17:00these other names. They'll feel like they're a little bit priced up. And
- 17:03I'll let you talk about that right now. Hoop like ninety six hundred,
- 17:06Billy awesome at the Open. Good for him. Really didn't do anything super
- 17:10wrong in the final round. He made some mistakes, for sure, but
- 17:12besides the fact that Xanders shot a sixty five bogie free round, I mean,
- 17:15you're not really gonna overcome that. But he didn't blow up and shoot
- 17:18an eighty or something. So Horseal ninety six hundred talked, you know you
- 17:22can lump Bati in there. I lumped him into the top myself and then
- 17:26other guys he can post in clant Mitchell thoughts of this nine k range or
- 17:30how to use them? Yeah, I mean not here typical nine k range
- 17:34in terms of the talent. I mean it falls off pretty quick. I
- 17:37mean, I mean it falls off in the ten k range when you don't
- 17:40see those guys up there all that often. You know f now As occasionally
- 17:44crept up. But it's a big price that you get the nine k range
- 17:47and it's like wow, you know, BITTI I think people feel fine playing
- 17:49just because he's had some some went upside, you know, Billy Horschell at
- 17:55ninety six hundred, like, if that beats me this week, sweet,
- 17:59like, I'll, you know, take money, I'll move on to the
- 18:00next thing. Mitchell has not been playing well. I think Clinton's the name
- 18:03people can definitely sell themselves on because it's a new name. He's been playing
- 18:08very solid. Obviously had the tenth that the Rock and more. We followed
- 18:11up with a second at the John Deere so Clinton's the name people will be
- 18:15fine going to. And then you have Posting and and Keegan, and neither
- 18:18one of those guys is playing particularly well, you know. For so for
- 18:23like nine K and above, I mean I think few Batilla get a lot
- 18:30of ownership. I think people are definitely going to go to those two.
- 18:32And then you probably just when you look at these names, it's like,
- 18:34all right, well do I just go and pay the ten k for Burns,
- 18:38who you know maybe has a chance to win the Galla Boom or bust.
- 18:41I just been this nine K range is range people are not going to
- 18:45feel very comfortable with outside of what I think would be Batilla and Clanton.
- 18:49But it's it's roughier and it's tough to really sell yourselves in some of these
- 18:53guys. But I have some Monday afternoon. I don't really see myself playing
- 18:59Billy Horse at ninety six. Like again, like if he beats me,
- 19:02he beats me. Yeah, And I'll say quickly too because the chat mentioned
- 19:04already like Mitchell fifth here in twenty twenty one, fifth here last year.
- 19:08People will probably get on him then a little bit, but it's the same.
- 19:11I was just about to say this post in eleventh and second the last
- 19:14two years, twenty eighth, not far before that, three years ago.
- 19:17So again that to me though doesn't say Chalk. That says like, that's
- 19:19where it will balance us. So it'll be female, and then these guys
- 19:23will get a little bit more spread out. So you should play who you
- 19:26like in that range, or you could start with some nine K guys somebody
- 19:30talked about already. There's some nine k in the leverage that can work.
- 19:32There'll be lineups there that you could build if you wanted to move off of
- 19:34female Thigala Burns, whatever that might be. Maybe people shy away from Thigala
- 19:40because the three miscuts, the three times he's played here, and he can
- 19:42spray it a little bit, like our guy Kenny says over here. So
- 19:45I don't know, we'll see how that goes on. Just to Aaron here,
- 19:48the chocky guys said, Degenerate did do a pretty good post about this.
- 19:52Actually, it's like the Chalk really didn't like Rory missed the cut,
- 19:56huge ownership, Hatt and Fleetwood, big ownership, misscut, Feenale, big
- 20:00ownership, miss cut, Tom Kim pretty good ownership, missed the cut.
- 20:04Thigala Batiya were down there. Louie Louie Big ownership miss cut, but Sungjay
- 20:08got T seven, so you know that that's part of it. You see
- 20:12sung JT seven, you see Lowry six, but Cawa T sixteenth like those
- 20:18weren't necessarily required, and not many of the guys at the very top were
- 20:22the chalkiest in their range. Again, it's not just fifteen percent is chalk.
- 20:26It's what if they're fifteen percent but everyone around them is twenty five or
- 20:29twenty eight or whatever the number is. The chalk really didn't have a great
- 20:33week, and that's why you saw a lot of people that sort of go
- 20:34against that or exploit it have a little bit better. And then we talked
- 20:37about this last week. If you were gonna go against a different wave the
- 20:41AMPM, one reason just to go against it, whether aside, was that
- 20:45the AMPM was was hosting most of the chokiest guys. That was the other
- 20:49angle of attack. So just to note that as you go through looking at
- 20:53it week to week, that certainly stands out as well. So I don't
- 20:56have much more on the nine K range troop, but I do think this
- 20:59akrange gets pretty popular pretty quickly. Like this is where I think if people
- 21:03are gonna bite the bull again, you can say it about all those guys
- 21:07Mitchell, because of course history post it because of course history. But like
- 21:10cam Davis tenth sixteenth, twenty eighth, twelfth, Tom Hogy twentieth, fourth,
- 21:15Rio third, second, tenth, Lee Hodge is won here last year
- 21:18sixteenth, the year before. To me, it just tells me right away
- 21:22this is where people are landing. And so even though there's course history related
- 21:26to those nine K guys, we know female is gonna be popular, and
- 21:30we know it's probably pick a nine k and then pick a couple eight k's,
- 21:33but I can see lineups having at least two eight K guys more often
- 21:37than not going into this week. Just first look, yeah, just adding
- 21:41on to all the good points that you made there. I mean, just
- 21:42kind of like the Hyge test, people are gonna come down here to the
- 21:45ak Ring and say, man, is there really a difference between like Taylor
- 21:49Pendrith and you know JT posting No not in their head? Is there a
- 21:53big difference between matth McNeely and you know, Keith Mitchell, Yeah, probably
- 21:59not. Like you can you can sell yourself on these eight K guys over
- 22:03the nine K guys all day long. So everything you just said, combined
- 22:07with the fact that you're saving money to come down here, I think this
- 22:10range gets a lot more ownership than the nine K range. Camp Davis Hogi
- 22:15Pendrith has had some big wins. You know. Evrs obviously a name people
- 22:19like to quick click, not just Wrin our guy Wrin obviously really likes to
- 22:22click the name, but people will like to play him at eighty six Dumblap
- 22:27coming off to win Hodges with the course history like you said. And then
- 22:30Patrick Rodgers at eighty one hundred playing pretty solid goal fifth thirty, fourth,
- 22:36thirty, first, sixteenth, Like he's a guy that you look to in
- 22:38some weaker field events, like he gets his as kicked when he plays with
- 22:41the big boys, but in events like this like you can definitely consider him.
- 22:45So yeah, I think we do see a lot more ownership in this
- 22:48eight K range. First the nine all the points that you've made, combined
- 22:52with the fact that people will just be fine saving some money and coming down
- 22:55here just based on what they view as the difference in talent, it's just
- 23:00not going to be much too many people when they start comparing the names and
- 23:03the prices. So yeah, AK will definitely be more own than nine k
- 23:07for sure. Yeah, that's how I see it. And it's just like
- 23:11I said, whether it's two or three. I mean, you could do
- 23:12a you mentioned earlier, how you could fit five guys above the average if
- 23:15you really wanted to and go balanced. But even with few, you can
- 23:18get you know, three and four in there pretty comfortably at least close to
- 23:22that, and be able to drop down and still land in plenty of options
- 23:26there. So I think that's just how that shakes out. You know,
- 23:27if you're gonna go, maybe you could overstack that, or you could try
- 23:30and do the double stud up top and move away from that range. Like
- 23:34there's a couple different ways if you did the three nine K guys or something
- 23:37along those lines. I definitely think there's alternatives, and it becomes one of
- 23:41those situations that I always talked about where you kind of have to trust talent
- 23:45or upside and just for example, like a Batia Clanton lineup, while they
- 23:51may get some individual ownership, they become more into me that range at least
- 23:53early. Batia will get some for sure, but like Clanton might end up
- 23:57fourteen fifteen, if even get to that level at ninety three hundred dollars price
- 24:02tag or a Horsell Clanton and just say I'll take those two guys, even
- 24:04though you think there's not much of a difference that really there isn't with some
- 24:07of those eight k guys. You just have to kind of angle for that
- 24:11with your builds and just take that on as the roster construction being different while
- 24:15st still taking on two very talented golfers as of late. So I think
- 24:18that's just how I would look at it. But Dunlap winning yesterday, Pendrith
- 24:22doing well there. You know, people like evr Grioh, Hogi, Davis
- 24:26have the history, Hodges definitely won it last year. Rodgers hasn't been that
- 24:30bad here. I definitely think this is where people end up. Did you
- 24:33have a Rose take that I missed just thinking about last week? Obviously had
- 24:37himself a shot to be in the mix there. He has not played here
- 24:41in the past, but you know, qualifying for the Open and then going
- 24:45out and finishing second and now here at less than average at eight thousand.
- 24:49Do you have any quick thoughts on him before we hop into this bigger seventh
- 24:52range. Yeah, nothing personal, just a name. I refuse to click
- 24:56like I just I don't. I can't even tell you the last time I
- 24:59played Justin Rowe. That'll continue this week as well. I'm not playing Justin
- 25:03Rose. All right, Okay, I thought you might be in on this
- 25:04guy after last week. But let's let's move on. Let's go to the
- 25:08seven K range. We've got let's do seventy five hundred and up. There's
- 25:12thirteen guys there. You got Ben Griffin down to Matt Wallace. Anything that
- 25:15stands out for you in this one, well, you know, the first
- 25:18thing that kind of stands out is there's so many guys here. So I
- 25:22think ownership probably does get spread out. I mean, just you know,
- 25:25a Monday afternoon prediction. I think a lot of ownership does get spread out
- 25:29because when you see so many playable guys in the same price range, that's
- 25:32just what naturally happens. And I think a lot of these guys will come
- 25:36to the forefront of as solid plays as the week goes on. People always
- 25:38like Ben Griffin. Sam Stevens continues to make cuts. The results hasn't been
- 25:45all that great, but he's making cuts and now in a weaker field event,
- 25:48which you know, he's played in some of the more difficult ones.
- 25:52Not Tony typically lives in these weaker field events. But at seventy eight hundred,
- 25:56make a cut. Can you get into the top twenty. Yeah.
- 26:00Thor at seventy seven I think is fine in this sort of event. Didn't
- 26:03really do good at the Baracute Kuda last week. What finished tied for sixty
- 26:07first, But I'd be fine getting behind him. Mackenzie Hughes at seventy seven.
- 26:15Mac Meisner, maybe he's the one. You know, Mark Messier is,
- 26:18as Mao says at seventy six coming off the what fourth place finish?
- 26:22He had a sixteenth before that, twentieth. Maybe he's the one that gets
- 26:26the ownership in this range. Probably a pretty solid play Bo Hostler and Matt
- 26:30Wallace at seventy five hundred. Sure, So there's just a lot of viable
- 26:34options in this range. I imagine, you know, ownership does get spread
- 26:38out, so you can kind of just play your guys when the dust settles,
- 26:41you know, going into Thursday. Yeah, I don't have to see.
- 26:44If anything really pops we get to the Wednesday show, we'll talk about
- 26:45it. If there's like, you know, some crazy pop off the page
- 26:48value that everybody's landing on. But for early on it definitely looks. And
- 26:52when you add the point that I was just gonna say, also, when
- 26:55you add earlier what I talked about with forty three guys now in the seven
- 26:57K range, it's going to be leverage that you can leverage to be had
- 27:00on pretty much anyone you want. Like you know, we talked earlier about
- 27:03the chalk hitting like some of the lineups at the top this week, Yes,
- 27:07Sung Jay was eighteen percent in the million maker and Xander was sixteen,
- 27:11but with rom JT eight, five, Burns four, Henley seven, Billy
- 27:17Horschel one, you know, all these guys being so low owned. I
- 27:19mean, I could see that again here, and so you can mix some
- 27:22of these guys. You just don't want to go all in on all these
- 27:26chalk guys because this is typically an event too where we see some carnage right
- 27:29water out there, all that stuff. So I was there last year,
- 27:32it's definitely I can see why. And you're kind of like pins and needles
- 27:34on every shot, especially near that cut line. When you get there on
- 27:37Friday, you're like, man, please just get up over on the eighteenth
- 27:41and get land on the green. Even if it's just a par I'm pining
- 27:44with it, even though it should be a birdie. It's just one of
- 27:45those things. So I think we see that. I tell you what though,
- 27:49this mac Meisner guy. I vouched for this dude, and then I
- 27:52had to watch him play for nine holes plus yesterday, just kicking it over
- 27:56to the barracuda. He has this pre shot routine that is so till it's
- 28:00ridiculous. I would never want to just I'm so happy we don't have to
- 28:03watch him very often. After that. I'm not sure if I can be
- 28:04a backer at this point. He just does it every single time, So
- 28:07I don't know if I'm going to be in on him. But Rico Joe,
- 28:11he's been coming through lately. He's got some good results. Chan Kim
- 28:15seventy six hundred thor I think it was a Beaderberg guy here. Earlier he
- 28:18mentioned the kids have been shown out the games may just be superior. It
- 28:22looks like they just seem to care. They care a lot, but it's
- 28:26also there, you know what's the right word for, but like they don't
- 28:29care as much. They will fire away and take whatever happens happens because there's
- 28:33less to lose, more to gain. And so Clanton Dunlap Thor Shipley I
- 28:37looked at I think he was pretty good last week too, so he's down
- 28:40at seventy three here in a second. But I like these guys that some
- 28:42are amateurs, some are amateurs turned pro. So in this spot here,
- 28:47I think this is a spot we can get to with some of these guys.
- 28:48So I'll definitely have interest on that range. And then the lower range
- 28:52seems to have all the guys right who you got let me see here twenty
- 28:57thirty guys from seventy four hundred down to seven thousand. So maybe just a
- 29:00few names that stand out to you, your guys fencing back in the mix
- 29:04there ll get in on him and on fencing. Grazerman, he's been playing
- 29:11very well thirteenth, twenty first, twenty six thirty first, twenty first at
- 29:15the US Open. I think he's a strong option. Andrew Novak seamous power.
- 29:19There's a lot of guys here for me, Shipley, I'm with you
- 29:22on that, and I do like to angle the younger guys for sure.
- 29:25Nap Ak wrote Silverman. I think Pam puts Silverman in the chat at what
- 29:32seventy two hundred. Yeah, he's been playing solid, a lot of made
- 29:34cuts. Looks like seven or eight straight made cuts for him at seventy two
- 29:40hundred. Can he make the cut get into the top fifteen to twenty,
- 29:42I think Silverman can, so I do like him at seventy two hundred.
- 29:48Coody coming in at seventy one, coming off the second second place finish,
- 29:52and the guy that's made six cuts in a row. So you're getting some
- 29:56good value down here. Rio I always kind of play. He's at the
- 30:00seventy one Andrew Putnam seven K flat, Burger seven k flat. There's plays
- 30:07here, a lot of plays, and yeah, just looking at this,
- 30:10for me, I definitely prefer the lower sevens post of the uppers. I
- 30:15think I'm gonna probably play more of these lower seven guys in the upper seven
- 30:18guys. But there's a lot in this range, just because the sheer number
- 30:22of golfers, like you've mentioned, would you say, is like forty forty
- 30:23three, Like that's a huge, huge number in the pressure and that's obviously
- 30:27a product of the No. Five K range. If there was a five
- 30:30K range, all these guys would be in the six K range, So
- 30:33no five K range, seven K gets flooded with a lot of guys,
- 30:37and like we both said, that's going to just spread out the ownership here
- 30:41because there's so many Bible options in this range, so easy to get leverage
- 30:45on the ones you feel the best about playing this week. Yeah, and
- 30:49what's interesting to me again, just forget the names, the picks and the
- 30:52plays. Focus on the process. That's what we do is like Cam Champ,
- 30:55you know, first and sixteenth, you know two years ago, in
- 30:57the year before that, he won, but like there's not much course history
- 31:02that besides, like a couple guys last year did good, for example,
- 31:04so like Adam hadwin back in the day at seventy nine hundred, Johnny Vegas
- 31:08got a second three years ago, like maybe Doug Gim because he's got three
- 31:12decent finishes over four years. But other than that, there's not much.
- 31:17Like people will say, Okay, Dilan MoU came fifth last year, but
- 31:18what else miscut the yearboard didn't play before that, Sam Ryder seventh, miscut
- 31:23twenty fifth miss cut. Maybe they play him, but like I don't think
- 31:26anyone's gonna be going based off that, So it's going to be more recent
- 31:29form in this range and then just betting odds and value and stuff like that
- 31:33that will lead into it. So you know, like Rinn says, here,
- 31:36the fact you can get nap, Shipley and Eckro have a ninety four
- 31:40dollars average, I don't hate that. Go Collect brought up nap as well.
- 31:42It's another djen line Dejenner seventy five always says it, you know,
- 31:47don't sleep on that. But he also says, play nap when he plays
- 31:49against the slap Dicks. That's uh, you know, this would be a
- 31:52week for that. So I definitely think that's a possibility as well. But
- 31:56you know, tons of options down here where I think it's going to become
- 31:59just pick the guys you want, because I don't see early on at least
- 32:02many that are gonna just skyrocket up in ownership. With having forty three options,
- 32:07it's gonna get more spread out. And one guy's twelve and one guy's
- 32:09eight, and there's gonna be people wrong on the projections where they think one
- 32:14guy's twelve and he's eight, and the guy that's eight is thirteen or fifteen
- 32:16or something. So I think this is kind of the range where you're just
- 32:20gonna have to pick your poison. But like you said, with thirty guys
- 32:22seventy four hundred and below, you got tons of options down there that you
- 32:25can make your choices that way. Any thoughts on this upper six k range
- 32:30that anything that stands out to you there, because I feel like there's a
- 32:31lot of a lot of guys still that you could make the case for.
- 32:36The Shanks and the Gotterer Ups could have been up there, the Bramlets,
- 32:38the the zach Blairs, the all the small leads, the ones, all
- 32:42these guys could have been priced up just slightly more, but they stopped because
- 32:45there was, you know, already forty three guys. So I don't really
- 32:49think there's a huge difference yet, but I think after that it does kind
- 32:52of drop off a little bit. Yeah, I just wanted to cover this
- 32:55before I get into the six K range. The most disrespectful price and it's
- 33:00definitely uh Grazerman at seventy four hundred. I think it could easily be in
- 33:05the eight K range this week as well as he's playing so most disrespectful price
- 33:08tag on the slide is definitely going to be a Grazerman at seventy four hundred.
- 33:14In the six K range, yeah, I mean it's hard on a
- 33:16Monday to really, you know, dive deep into the six K range because
- 33:20there's just so many guys down here. But some names, you know,
- 33:23Ben Coles has had some pretty good finishes. Someone mentioned Toasty at sixty eight,
- 33:30Nie Smith, Shank, Davis Riley sixty seven, Joseph Bramlett sixty seven.
- 33:36I think those are names that people can get get behind plane this week
- 33:39going down. I don't know. There's not a ton actually now that I
- 33:42start looking at it, So I don't know. I really prefer some of
- 33:45these guys in the seven K range finding a way up to the seventh instead
- 33:47of settling on you know a lot of these six k guys. But again
- 33:52it's early, it's Monday. A lot could change. But I don't necessarily
- 33:55love what I'm seeing here in the sixth K range, which does make sense.
- 33:59I mean, it's a very weak field event once you get down here,
- 34:00the name it's gonna get pretty gross in a hurry. So yeah,
- 34:04out of tom right out of the bat, right out of the gate that
- 34:07I think I like this week in assist Kate Rage just not much. And
- 34:12that's why I think too, like I said earlier, like it sets up
- 34:14for you just don't even need to go down here. But it's just that's
- 34:15because there's forty three guys and the way it sets up up top, people
- 34:19like the eight k's, they all stand out. That makes sense. Your
- 34:22boy Callum Tern, he got twenty first recently so that we thought he was
- 34:25back, and then he missed the cut again last week, but seventh and
- 34:29thirteenth here, so he actually does have a couple of good results here the
- 34:31last two years if people were looking at that. But I will say,
- 34:34just going back to your most disrespectful and the range of that, it's like,
- 34:38that's where I think people are gonna end up on some of these guys,
- 34:40because when you look at it, they're gonna have to go off of
- 34:44the recent form. And Meisner, you talked about a twenty at sixteenth,
- 34:46fourth, Chan Kim twelfth, tenth, twenty ninth, Harry Hall coming off
- 34:51a win twelfth, thirty first, sort of before that, hoey Rico eighth,
- 34:57second, twenty, sixth, sixth, you know, Johnny Vegas twentieth
- 35:00and twenty fifth, so it's gonna be all based on the recent form.
- 35:04Fishburn actually has third at the Barracuda fifteenth twenty fifth. He's been in the
- 35:08mix a little bit. Shipley could have done a lot better yesterday, I
- 35:13think from all the stuff I looked at, and has a sixth the twenty
- 35:15of the twenty sixth and some real big boy events too in the mix there.
- 35:17So I think this is gonna be where everybody ends up and they're just
- 35:21gonna go based on this recent form and then whatever lines up with the betting
- 35:24odds. So you could build your lineups out based off of that and then
- 35:28see how you want your lineups to look. But I think that's gonna be
- 35:30the case here right where people are gonna be looking at that down low,
- 35:34it's always gonna be two. Without getting into the weeds and the names too
- 35:37much, Like what's this one? I just saw here? Four PGA cuts
- 35:42in a row at sixty three hundred ver smotherman like, yeah, if that's
- 35:45your guy, you got you know what I'm gonna tell you about that,
- 35:46Like, pick your guy. But he also has sixty first, fifty four,
- 35:50sixty fifth, seventy seventieth, miscut, miscut, miscut miscut. So
- 35:53if that's your angle and your take, play them, but play enough right,
- 35:58or play something that you can actually get an angle in, so it's
- 36:00not just one lineup with him because you thought that was right and then all
- 36:04the other stuff is wrong and it didn't matter anyway. So I don't see
- 36:07a ton though down here. Besides one that I got to bring up.
- 36:09Your boy usually is mentioned is Adam shank We talked about him sixty seven,
- 36:14My Boy, the flow chart, full motion Baby, We're back at it
- 36:16again, Troy Meryrett. What have we got here? Is Troy Marrett playing?
- 36:21Yes? Is he cheap? Yes? Can it be? Or is
- 36:23it usually a birdie fest? Yes? Do we play him? Yes,
- 36:28that's really what it comes down to. Up and down results with him lately,
- 36:30up and down results here. But sixty five hundred makes the cuts,
- 36:34make the birdies, let's see it. So he's a guy that I'll mention.
- 36:37Other than that the hoop. I don't have much down here at all,
- 36:40And I think that is the case of No. Five k range where
- 36:44they just slammed a bunch of guys down here for the leftovers after you get
- 36:46past sixty five hundred. There is forty seven names, and there's gonna be
- 36:53more. And I also should note too, we forgot to mention, but
- 36:55Glover is at seventy one hundred and Wrensky at sixty three hundred WDD just before
- 37:01the show went on, and four other guys are in, and there'll be
- 37:05other stuff too, so just keep an eye on that. We'll have it
- 37:07all covered over at triper Nation and in Discord over there as well. But
- 37:09yeah, there's almost fifty guys sixty five hundred and below. That's just your
- 37:14new dumpster this week, so you really don't even have to go there if
- 37:16you don't want to. Yeah, kind of the same boat. Like,
- 37:19I can't imagine there's gonna be many guys down there that I play. I
- 37:22mean, most likely it's going to be zero. The pricing soft, I
- 37:27just you know, from going through the show, I'll be able to get
- 37:29everything I want, which without you know, diving super super deep into the
- 37:32six k range. So that's my initial read at this point. You know,
- 37:37what I said in the opening remains true. Birdy fast, soft,
- 37:40pricing, weak field. Those are three things you need to know about this
- 37:45week. We'll obviously be back Wednesday for a more you know, in depth
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- 37:52But in terms of the first look for the three, I'm open, I'm
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