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SPECIAL EPISODE: Homeopathy for Complex Cases · The Remedy Revolution Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: With the whole revolution.
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SPEAKER_01: With the whole remote show.
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SPEAKER_01: Remedy Revolution is here for you.
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SPEAKER_01: And now here's your host, Aaron Page.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Remedy Revolution Podcast.
0:17
SPEAKER_00: This is Aaron.
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SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to say I have missed you guys.
0:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's been a little bit of a challenge the last uh couple of months.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if things have been explained or if you've heard about it, but uh I did have a flood uh that impacted my uh recording studio, and I have not been able to record anything over the last uh couple of months, but I do have some things that I'm really excited to share with y'all coming up very, very soon.
0:50
SPEAKER_00: I wanted to make sure that I did give you something though.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: So I am sharing something uh from a recent webinar that I just gave.
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SPEAKER_00: I created it for a couple of groups of people.
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SPEAKER_00: First of all, um individuals who just want uh a clearer idea of how I practice homeopathy and how that may differ from some of my colleagues, and also practitioners.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: So I attended the MAPS conference in Philadelphia and I always have tons of questions from practitioners who are interested in working with homeopathy, perhaps in their own practice, but just don't really know where to start or how they might be able to uh learn as much as possible.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: So many of my colleagues are super skilled uh at what they do.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: Um we share a lot of the same foundational principles, but I do things a little bit differently in my practice as my uh board certification is as a holistic health practitioner.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: However, uh my training is primarily in homeopathy.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: So uh it gives me a little bit of a different perspective on how to treat some of these kiddos in particular or chronic conditions.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to explain a little bit of my methodology and what differentiates me from some of the other practitioners that are out there and makes uh treatment so successful, particularly in the pants pandas and chronic illness uh world, uh chronic Lyme, uh, autism, of course, um, and a number of other conditions because homeopathy is purely symptom-based.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of reasons why I find it to be incredibly helpful for so many of these more chronic and complex cases.
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SPEAKER_00: And I hope you enjoy this webinar.
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SPEAKER_00: It is an introduction for a year-long training program that I am putting together for practitioners beginning in March of 2027.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh, I'll give you a little bit of an explanation throughout the webinar of what that course entails and uh information on it if you are interested in joining.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening and for tuning in and uh be on the lookout for another several episodes coming up.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: I've got some great guests, and uh I look forward to sharing new episodes with you from my new office.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: All right, y'all take care.
3:16
SPEAKER_00: All right, welcome everybody to Beyond the Diagnosis Homeopathy for Complex Chronic and Pediatric Cases.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh just to introduce myself for those of you I don't know, um my name is Erin Page.
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SPEAKER_00: I am a board-certified holistic health practitioner and a trained homeopath.
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SPEAKER_00: So I just went to school with the School of Intuitive Homeopathy.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I also went through the Center for Homeopathic Education um with Hilary Dorian in the Master Practitioner Program.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: Um I just to kind of back up a little bit, I um I also was the founder of a group called Saving Our Pandas in 2012.
3:59
SPEAKER_00: Um my son was a very severe case of pans pandas, uh, which led me down the path of wanting to search for alternative methods to help him heal.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: So that's how I wound up in that position.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Um and uh I was at one point the co-executive director for Autism One.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm currently a member mentor for Remedy Academy out of Australia.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: They just started their new cohort with uh, I think almost a thousand uh homeopaths or people training to be homeopaths, which is really exciting.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I host the Remedy Revolution podcast, and I have an upcoming book called From Hell to Healed, a roadmap for pans, pandas, parents, and patients that will be out in January, but it is available um through it will be available through children's self-defense.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: It is on the um uh Amazon site right now for pre-order.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh so um all that to say uh this has kind of been my world for a really long time.
5:07
SPEAKER_00: Um and uh I'm really excited to be here and chat with y'all.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so a couple of things.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: So tonight's objectives are threefold.
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SPEAKER_00: So first is what makes a case complex.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: So um for those of you that have some background in homeopathy, uh you know that the vast majority of cases that initially come to homeopathy are usually ones that have been kind of through the ringer of mainstream medicine, unless you're practicing in a real acute kind of situation.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: So we'll talk about some of the things, some of the dynamics that make cases a little bit more complex, even for uh practitioners who maybe don't specialize in those particular areas.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, and this is gonna be primarily about method, not Materia Medica.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not going to go into very specific remedies for specific symptoms tonight.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: This is just about methodology of case taking so that when you are presented with those complex cases, you have a little bit more strategy and framework to use uh in order to help resolve the case.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: Um and then lastly, experience is really what builds the expert.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: So we'll talk a little bit about how you can gain a little bit more experience working with some of those complex cases and how you can apply the experience you already have in order to work those cases more effectively.
6:38
SPEAKER_00: All right.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: Um so a lot of times people come to me with this laundry list of diagnoses, and um we'll kind of go into very, very basic uh briefer on um what homeopathy is, but it is uh essentially symptom-based.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking at a totality of symptoms, the symptom picture overall.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: So the diagnosis um really is not uh very uh impactful when it comes to case taking, because a diagnosis can mean a lot of different things.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh they say that you know, once you've met one child with autism, you've met one child with autism.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: And that I think uh kind of sums it up that that autism is a label that uh has a very, very wide umbrella that casts this huge net.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: And so it's more about how that child is expressing autism rather than um how uh you know the the number of diagnoses that that particular child has.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: So uh you really want to think about not necessarily the labels, but um, you know, how that particular child is expressing those uh set of behaviors.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: All right.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: So um, where does the initial training stop?
8:04
SPEAKER_00: So um there are a lot of variables that are gonna complicate these cases.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: Um I think there are some fantastic schools.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I'm a mentor for Remedy Academy.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: Um I think they've done a fantastic job of training their new homeopaths, but they're still lacking in experience with complexities and um you know it takes a while to kind of build a repertoire and start to recognize patterns as a homeopath in general.
8:34
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of different things that go into it.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: But essentially, um, I wanted to kind of give a few variables that I have seen in my practice time and time again that really make it a little bit more complicated, um, just especially from the um the new practitioner perspective or from a practitioner's perspective that maybe is uh has some of these kids in their uh practice, but they're not uh fully confident in treating them.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: All right, so a couple of things that I've seen four diagnoses in one small body.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, this is the kiddo that comes to you, they're like three years old, and they've got, you know, an autism diagnosis, an OCD diagnosis, uh uh PDA diagnosis, whatever, um ODD, all these different uh labels that don't necessarily describe that child, um, but kind of give um they muddy the picture, if you will, um rather than give you a very clear idea of how that child is behaving and moving through life.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, a child that is unable to thoroughly communicate symptoms for whatever reason.
9:48
SPEAKER_00: So uh whether this child has apraxia and is unable to speak, um, or is just learning to communicate with a letterboard uh or is an infant or is a child that maybe has some cognitive delays and uh just can't really express themselves in the way that you know we need them to in order to take the case properly.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: Polypharmacy is a big one, so um I cannot tell you how many uh kids who have come to me on I can't I can't stress this enough, but you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten medications at the same time.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, those medications that have piled on top of one another.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: And uh we still don't really have a clear picture of what is an actual symptom and what is a side effect of some of those drugs.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: So unraveling that makes this a much more complex case, obviously.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: Um seem to be highly variable.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: So these are kids that um are, you know, lovely and friendly uh 10 days uh out of the month, and the other 20 days out of the month, they are absolutely terrible, and it's primarily at home.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you can't predict what kind of day it's gonna be.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: Um things are um, you know, sleep is very erratic, um, you know, behavior is extremely unpredictable, um they might have diarrhea one day and constipation for a week, you know, those kinds of things where the symptoms make it very difficult to repertorize a case because they have uh this um variable uh nature to their symptom picture.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: Um a patient who cannot recall life without illness, so I see this a lot, um, lots of times.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh so my own son uh had a regression at age four.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, because of you know a variety of of things with regard to development, we weren't sure what was behavioral, what was personality.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, there were a number of things that uh physical things that he you know had always remembered as part of his um constitution physically, but you know that's because he'd been sick for such a long period of time.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: So when he's 12 years old and still he's not complaining about headaches, but he is uh very clearly in pain, uh you know, from my mother's perspective, mother's intuition, um it took a while to figure those things out that oh, actually he just doesn't know that he has a headache all the time because he's had it all the time since he was four.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then uh a patient who cannot or will not take supplements or medications.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this becomes very challenging.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: I've got a lot of patients who have RFID, um, avoid a restrictive feeding um issues, and those challenges make it so that those kids uh will refuse anything and everything under the sun just because you told them to take it.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: Um there are kids who can't physically um masticate or chew.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, a chewable uh or a gummy or something like that is very difficult for them.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Um so there's a number of reasons why a patient uh can't take any supplements or medications, um, including uh just a lack of desire to do so.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Um so a lot of these kids get very burnt out from uh being overly medical medicalized the vast majority of their lives.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: And then lastly, a parent who prioritize the symptoms that impact them rather than the symptoms that are truly impacting their child.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: So this is something I see a lot because parents become frustrated with the behaviors of the child, and so they come to me saying that they want, you know, X symptom fixed, whatever it might be.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's um they're wetting the bed every single night and mom is just exhausted from having to change the sheets every night.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so while that is understandable that mom is frustrated, um, the child may have a very different idea of the things that they would like to have healed rather than you know what mom would like to have healed.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: Um so that uh kind of gives you a good idea of these, uh, some of these issues that that can complicate a case.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the rubrics uh in these cases oftentimes don't line up.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: Um why?
16:06
SPEAKER_00: So um a lot of times we're thinking about classical homeopathy in a complex world.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, so what's the difference?
16:15
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean exactly?
16:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, 250 years ago when Samuel Hahnemann first developed homeopathy, there were far fewer variables in play.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: Now we have lots of kids who are uh overwhelmed with infections, they have a number of um uh environmental assaults, they have pharmaceutical assaults, they have um uh challenges with uh traumas, um difficulties with uh, you know, family members, um there's a lot of things that are that complicate these uh cases in a very um meaningful way.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's really important to acknowledge and understand that we live in a very different world than we did 250 years ago.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: So um from that standpoint is the way that I've had to approach a lot of these complex cases.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Um so, what do I mean by that?
17:17
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times I'll have to look at uh lab results, for example.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll have to not only, you know, do all of the things that we normally do uh in a regular uh homeopathic case taking, but um add a variety of other things either as supports or detoxifications, or um, you know, there's an there's a number of uh nosodes, for example, that we'll utilize for kiddos that are exhibiting pans panda symptoms in particular, um parasites, mold, you know, all of these things that they might be impacted by.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: So the idea of treating with one remedy at a time um for you know um the life of the patient, um, while that seems uh amazing, if if that, you know, was able to work, um, then that would be great.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: And I think it does work in certain scenarios with, you know, very small children who uh their regression is caught very early and we can um clear it um, you know, before too many assaults are brought on.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: Um but from my experience with these real complex cases, I just don't see that being the thing that resolves the entire case.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Um okay, so how do we determine um where to start?
18:45
SPEAKER_00: So what I'm looking at is the symptoms that are based on on the surface level, the most forward-facing issues, right?
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, when we don't understand the constitution of the patient.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, like I said, a lot of these kids have been sick a really long time.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: And so uh it's very difficult to understand what is this child's personality actually, because you know, for such a long time they've been experiencing or exhibiting what we might call symptoms, and um, some of those symptoms might become a little bit more ingrained as the child gets older and seem like a personality trait, it might actually not be, especially for those non-speakers.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: This is super important too, because I deal with a lot of non-speakers who are now spelling uh to communicate, and it uh you would be surprised at some of the things that parents and practitioners have presumed for many, many years that are incorrect about that particular patient because they couldn't communicate um how they were actually feeling.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's really important to understand that symptoms can cover up the constitution of a patient, which makes it very difficult to determine a constitutional remedy type for that particular patient.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: All right, it's not that the rubrics are failing you, it's that you were given the right tools, but it might just be for a different population from a different time.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, and unfortunately, because of the toxic soup that we are uh currently living in, um, this makes it a little bit more complicated when we are faced uh especially with these real complex um uh mental health and pediatric cases.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: All right.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: So who is this particular class for?
20:42
SPEAKER_00: Um I kind of alluded to it, but homeopaths that are moving from acute and constitutional into chronic complex cases, pediatric, autoimmune, multi-diagnosis, um, other practitioners, so chiropractors, andes, nurses, health coaches, um, people that are looking to kind of expand their scope, uh, learn about homeopathy, um, and MDs and integrated physicians bringing homeopathy and functional techniques into autoimmune and pediatric practice, and practitioners that are already uh in practice who have a good grasp of homeopathy, but are maybe new grads who just feel a little bit out of their depth when it comes to some of these more complex cases, um, especially those who are just newly graduated, because it it um I think when you start to take some of these cases, it can feel a little bit overwhelming.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so we want to be able to make sure that we give you this a little bit of framework.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so word of caution, um, this class is not really for parents.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: If you are a parent and you're just interested in learning more, um, you're welcome to stay, of course, and listen.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'll you know give you as many tips and tricks as I can.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: But uh I just want to stress that homeopathy is it completely individualized, so you really want to make sure that you consult with a homeopathic practitioner to explain your case in depth and make sure that you get the best treatment for your particular child.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Um this is not really for practitioners that are just hunting for protocols instead of real skill in case taking.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you want protocols, um I'm probably not the gal for you to be honest.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm not a big fan of protocols.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: I really do treat each patient completely individually.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Um so uh but what I'm here to do is to train you in the methodology rather than um protocols.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Um and then just to remember that a label or a diagnosis doesn't really describe a case, it just provides some direction in your case taking.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna keep this super, super brief, but um I know that there are some people who registered for this uh call who are not homeopaths, so um the the uh Cliff Notes version elevator pitch is that homeopathy is a 250 year old system of medicine with historical and clinical evidence.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, don't Google that.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: Because you know Google has its own biases, but um I can point you in the direction of a number of uh great educational um materials.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: Um it's truly individualized symptom-based care.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, what I mean by that is that we are looking at each person, uh what kinds of symptoms, how they are expressing life.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh it is really truly um not a one size fits all or pill for every ill, um which makes homeopathy very complicated to apply in traditional um medical avenues, right?
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Because uh the case taking takes a lot longer.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: Um there are a number of other um factors, such as you know, we're we're serving as not only a diagnostician and a um clinician and uh a therapist and a detective and all of these things.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: So um homeopaths really um are are doing a lot of work uh over and above just you know looking at lab results and things like that.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: All right.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: Um it has an unmatched safety profile.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Um homeopathy is uh you know beyond safe.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: I've treated uh my latest patient, um, the youngest one was like 14 days old, I think, when we give her her first remedy, um, and did amazingly well.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it is easy to implement for anybody.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, that infant that I'm talking about, we put the remedy in water, just her with a couple drops uh of the water.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, I literally have not had any patient who has struggled, we've struggled to get a remedy into.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, so uh knock on wood, um nobody's been able to beat that yet.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: So that's great.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Um all right, so the complex pediatric case.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: Pediatric case taking already presents challenges.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously, you know, young kids can't really communicate um where they're hurting, what makes it better, what makes it worse, um, what the quality of the pain is, you know, it's very difficult to take a case from a young child.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, but a complex case presents a lot of other challenges as well.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: So the core problem is how can we determine a constitution when there are so many symptoms in the way of our understanding?
25:54
SPEAKER_00: So I talked about this a little bit earlier, but a lot of times, you know, we have so many um so many things.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: So if we've got a lot of medications, for example, a lot of infections, for example, um, if the child is uh perhaps diagnosed with autism and then all of a sudden they can come down with a bunch of rage behavior or super anxious behavior, which is possibly pans or pandas.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: Um so everything gets muddied.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: We're not really sure what we're looking at.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Um so it becomes very difficult to determine uh what is uh actually at the core of that particular patient.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, so observation, how can we accurately take the case when the child's communication is limited and we must rely on others?
26:43
SPEAKER_00: So typically this is mom or dad.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Um nine times out of ten it's mom.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, but um you know, a lot of times um mom is dealing with her own challenges or other children or um you know uh her own uh physical issues.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: So sometimes that can be skewed to reflect how mom is feeling.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: Um this also makes the case for the idea that sometimes it's very helpful to treat moms alongside their children, um, but that's another another class.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Um ideal outcomes.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: So um a layered totality approach is often needed to reveal the accurate constitutional picture.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: So the way that I've started to approach cases is by um looking at the overarching totality of symptoms in each presentation.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: So uh where are we at today or most recently, is there a never well sense um picture that is coming up?
27:46
SPEAKER_00: So do we need to address the most recent assault?
27:50
SPEAKER_00: Are we looking at um, you know, lots of behaviors that we need to kind of uh figure out where that's coming from?
27:58
SPEAKER_00: But looking at the totality of symptoms as it presents right now can often be really helpful.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: All right, um, so the challenges sensory behavior and physical observation um replace direct verbal report.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: So is this a voluntary movement, for example, or is this a STEM?
28:19
SPEAKER_00: So I'll give you an example.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: Um I've taken a lot of cases of uh non-speaking uh children, and oftentimes they will try to communicate with me by showing uh picture books.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: And um I have since been able to communicate with some of those uh non-speakers um who have communicated that yes, sometimes they do communicate with those picture books, and other times it's more of a stimming kind of behavior.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: They just grab a book off the shelf and flip through the pages, and it's they're not trying to show you anything specific.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, so um it's difficult to tease out what kinds of things are actual behaviors and um what is more of a stim or a tick.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Um uh for example, um my son had a burping tick um at his onset and it did seem behavioral for a while because he would burp uncontrollably until the point he would vomit.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: And um he would tell me, I just can't stop.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, I would and of course, you know, as a mom of a four-year-old, I'm like, okay, like what do you mean you can't stop?
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Like that didn't make any sense to me.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh later, it wasn't until later that I realized that um that he was physically manifesting these, um, it it was almost like a neurological uh kind of challenge.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: Um I mean it was a neurological challenge um that he was unable to stop.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: Um so those kinds of things are important to understand.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: Um I just had a parent the other day continuously tell me that her child um is trying to seek attention.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: And from my perspective, um the vast majority of children, uh, especially impressionable, you know, um preteens uh girls are are not um wanting to seek negative attention in that way, in a way that makes them look um crazy or uh you know or difficult, um, especially within the setting.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: So um I challenge that a little bit.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, sometimes parents have their own views of things, um, but um a lot of times these kids really cannot uh control the behaviors.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: Um all right, uh parent narratives stand in for the patient's own words and some intuition will always be necessary.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of going along with what I just said.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of times, um, you know, with this particular child, um, she was creating things, um, behaviors that were putting her at odds with her peers.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: And um then uh I I think a lot of this was actually OCD driven.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: There were a lot of behaviors that she was um engaging in that were particularly out of anxiety.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so when she was challenged with something that was very difficult for her, she's had a lot of executive dysfunction, um, it was very, very um frustrating and caused her to you know fly into rage kinds of behaviors that um were isolating her from her peers.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: Um so um sometimes you have to kind of intuit what the parent is actually saying, what the actual behavior is and what might be driving that behavior rather than what the parent's um interpretation of that particular behavior might be.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: All right.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: Um silence, gaze aversion, scripting, shutdown, those are all clinical data that can help you um move a case forward.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times people will say, well, you know, they uh they get on the call with me or the the Zoom or they sit in front of me and they just don't respond.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, um that can also be uh clinical data, right?
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Because that could be a difficulty with processing, for example.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, it could be uh extreme anxiety or fear.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: There are a number of reasons why a child might not be able to respond.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: Um medication and treatment load uh must be taken into account.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: So, like I said, a lot of these kids are on a multitude of medications, and so um, you know, you have to understand that when they are um medicated, sometimes that's gonna alter the behavior as well.
33:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, observation is the case watch before you reperturize.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: These are not just autism.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: I think this is really important.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times um people will, um, particularly some clinicians will say that, oh, you know, your child has does this behavior.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's just autism.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's very frustrating to hear that as a parent because um it nothing is just autism, right?
33:44
SPEAKER_00: A behavior is a behavior that your child is exhibiting.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh it it doesn't necessarily need the label um to uh to validate that it might be going on.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: So um things get lumped in and then they are completely overshadowed by a la label like autism.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, GI issues is the first thing that always comes to mind is that you know, so many of these kids have massive gut dysfunction, and um, you know, you take them to the pediatrician and they just dismiss it.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh so those are modalities of the living picture.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: In other words, how is the patient exhibiting autism?
34:26
SPEAKER_00: Not I have autism, right?
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Or or my child is autistic.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: That is not as nearly as important as the details of okay, um how is this child going through life?
34:41
SPEAKER_00: What kinds of things are they exhibiting?
34:43
SPEAKER_00: What kinds of behaviors do they have?
34:45
SPEAKER_00: What kinds of physical issues do they have?
34:47
SPEAKER_00: What is their family history?
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, what what miasmatic layer might we be looking at?
34:54
SPEAKER_00: So the diagnostic label again creates uh direct case taking, but it doesn't replace it.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh boy, all right.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm realizing the time here and I'm like not even halfway through, but okay.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: The parent account is clinical data.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: So a couple of things.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is again some of this methodology.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: So number one, work the timeline.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: What is the first change that the parent could not explain?
35:20
SPEAKER_00: What was the true before picture?
35:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, but this is about the onset, not necessarily a recap of diagnosis.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of people will go through the dates in which they received a diagnosis.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: That's not nearly as important as going back through and understanding what created the symptoms in the first place.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: So make sure that when you're a case taking, you're going back and asking those questions rather than, you know, in 2012 they were diagnosed with autism.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: That really doesn't give you much to go on, right?
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Baseline versus flair.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: So what is always present and what has always been present versus what only shows under infections or new medications or stress, because the difference really does matter.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, a lot of times when people are in chaos, when these kids are are in crisis mode, they'll get a lot of things thrown at them.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: And it can be really difficult to understand if that child is now experiencing side effects from a medication versus um this is a new symptom picture emerging.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: So be very specific when asking your patients about, okay, when did they start this medication?
36:38
SPEAKER_00: When did this behavior come on?
36:40
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times they will start to connect the dots on their own.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: You don't really have to do a lot of explaining at that point.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh additionally, you want to make sure, specifically these kids that have regressed at a very young age, a lot of times their their baseline is very unknown, right?
36:59
SPEAKER_00: Because they've been essentially in a flare, if you will, or um exhibiting symptoms since they were um, you know, very young and hadn't reached a lot of developmental milestones.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: All right, exact language.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: So record the patient's or child's own words, sounds, gestures, um, and refusals verbatim as much as possible.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, try not to paraphrase.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then I wanted to give you guys a very specific case that I had of a mother who was uh her daughter was autistic, non-speaker.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: She was probably about six or seven years old when I took the case.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: And um the mother had colesthesis in pregnancy, um, and she just kept uh repeatedly talking about this burning sensation.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: Everything was burning and burning and burning.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: And um the child was in the background, and she it was, I don't know, probably in the winter, but they were inside and in like some uh northern state, I don't know, it's like Michigan or something like that.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: And she went into the bathroom and grabbed the sunscreen and brought it out to her mom.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: And I could have ignored that, but in that scenario, I thought, gosh, this is really strange because she keeps talking about burning and burning and burning, and this child comes out, brings the sunscreen, and um she's talking about her daughter's like diarrhea and um you know that burning sensation over and over and over again.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: And um anyway, I gave Cantharis in the case and um it uh she did amazingly well.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, started uh with some language, um, expressive language and things like that.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: So um don't ignore the exact language because sometimes it can be a huge clue as to where which direction you need to go in the case.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, what the parent fears you will miss.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: So do not be afraid to ask the tough questions.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by that is uh as a pandas parent myself, I know that a lot of pandas parents are very reluctant to talk about particularly violence or sexual behaviors or um, you know, more uh suicidal tendencies, things like that.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, parents are very fearful to talk about those things, um, particularly with a new practitioner, because they don't want to let you in too quick, too fast.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: They have a lot of fear about um child protective services or things like that.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, so don't miss that.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: Don't be afraid to probe into um those kinds of conversations um because sometimes you can get parents to open up um with just a little bit of questions and uh empathy, honestly.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay, um intake when the child is not present.
40:05
SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of times I will take an intake without the child.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: In fact, most times, um yeah, especially the first, um, the first appointment.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: Why?
40:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, because a lot of these kids have embarrassing behaviors um and uh or difficult behaviors, they might be very defiant and uh resist everything that mom or dad says.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: Um and I don't want to create conflict within that relationship.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: I want this to be um a positive move forward for that particular child, but I also really think that it's detrimental to a child to speak poorly about that child while they're in the room.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Um and this goes equally for non-speakers.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, in fact, probably even more so.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh I find it very disheartening when parents are um demeaning their child while they're sitting right there because they presume that they cannot understand.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Um presume that your child can understand every single word that you are saying and be respectful and kind always.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Um that's usually where I start.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so um what is the presenting crisis?
41:22
SPEAKER_00: So what made them book right now?
41:24
SPEAKER_00: What is the thing that brought them to your door?
41:27
SPEAKER_00: Um is there a safety concern?
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, if there is, that's usually number one.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: We'll get into that in just a minute.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: Then you want to look at uh a number of markers, right?
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Infection, inflammation, sleep, gut, skin, uh, medical history, of course.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: The mentals, it's very important to record as behavior under the condition.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: And again, a lot of this is because if you're looking for a constitutional type of remedy, you're gonna get led down the wrong path, you know, nine times out of ten if you're thinking that this is a constitutional um personality trait and not behavior under the condition.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: Um not to focus too much on labels, look at the family atmosphere.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, um, you know, a lot of this is like um particularly sibling relationships.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, are there challenges there?
42:26
SPEAKER_00: Um obviously, challenges between mom and dad can be uh difficult for the child.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then of course their their um relationships with their parents as well.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: And then also what has already been tried.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: And I mean that uh not just homeopathically, but across the board.
42:45
SPEAKER_00: Get the laundry list, right?
42:47
SPEAKER_00: Understand all of the different things, the treatments that they have tried that might give you some clues as to um where to go next.
42:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, and if I were to ask your child, this is something I usually ask the parents, if I were to ask your child which symptom they would like addressed, what would they be most likely to answer?
43:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, why do I ask that question?
43:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, because a lot of times mom or dad is having a very different idea about what is bothering their child versus what is actually bothering their child.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, and some kids, to be honest, are like completely unbothered.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: Um they just want like, you know, the diarrhea to go away or the skin rash to go away or something like that.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: And like they have no problems with some of the other stuff that's going on.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: All right.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh, all right, so the parent with the binder.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of people, practitioners, um kind of roll their eyes and get frustrated.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think it's evidence.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh, it serves as evidence.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: Am I gonna read through all 100 pages of your binder?
43:54
SPEAKER_00: No, probably not.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm sorry to say.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh it does provide uh evidence that I can look back onto um later on as we start to peel back some of these layers.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: So use it as evidence.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, you can pull things like onset dates, um, periodicity.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: So, like if there's a relapsing remitting pattern, sometimes those binders are really great at recognizing those things.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Suppressions, um, failed drugs.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: So if they've tried a bunch of you know, antibiotic and it's not working to quell the pans panda symptoms, okay, that's good information.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, what improved on antibiotics, steroids, SSRIs, and what got worse.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I just recently had a kiddo who tanked on IVIG, she'd been getting IVIG for a long time, tanked on it.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: And um, by the way, I'm not a huge advocate of all of these things, but it is important to know and understand the mechanisms behind them if you're going to treat this population of patients.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, but tanked on IVIG and uh and then we went back and looked.
45:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, and um lo and behold, all of a sudden her coxacky titers uh went sky high through the roof, and uh it should never Hand foot mouth.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so now her practitioner even is the one.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh, her medical doctor is the one who suggested I think she's probably getting it from the IVIG, and so they've paused IVIG for now.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, just really interesting.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: So understand what improved and what got worse, and perhaps the mechanisms behind those things, right?
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, you can use those as reference after you've begun to rebitrize the case rather than before.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, the reason I say that is because you don't want to cloud the current picture of that patient by digging into each individual assault.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: It will lead you down so many rabbit holes that you'll stop, uh you'll you'll lose the thread of the case.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: All right.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
46:09
SPEAKER_00: Part one takeaways.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, a child without descriptive language still produces a case.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, the diagnosis can orient the interview or the case taking, but it really doesn't help you choose the remedy with any specificity.
46:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the characteristic picture actually does.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: Remember that a parent's observation may not be 100% complete.
46:31
SPEAKER_00: All right.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: So next I want to talk about a case with four different labels and how to hold the case through years of change but still yield results.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: So layer one is the present.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: This is the foundation that makes everything else possible.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: You want to have success in your cases immediately if you can, because that's gonna help maintain compliance throughout the life of the case.
46:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, look for the most forward-facing symptoms and the onset of those symptoms first.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: So, like the case I was just talking about, the girl who had IVIG and cocksaky.
47:11
SPEAKER_00: What was the first thing I did?
47:14
SPEAKER_00: Anybody?
47:15
SPEAKER_00: I started to detox her from coxacky.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: So I gave her a cocksaki nose sode, um, uh as well as a few other things to help with some of the other behavioral picture issues.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, but what are the most forward-facing symptoms?
47:31
SPEAKER_00: What was the most recent assault?
47:33
SPEAKER_00: What kinds of things can we peel back?
47:35
SPEAKER_00: How can we lessen symptoms in severity or frequency or both?
47:40
SPEAKER_00: So I want to look at those as much as possible.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, because when you have success with your initial prescription, your client is more likely to come back and more likely to continue treatment and understand the importance of addressing each layer as it comes.
48:00
SPEAKER_00: All right, the turn.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: So layer two, this is where a lot of cases stall.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean that you're lacking the tools though.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: But what happens is we still try to prescribe either constitutionally or we start going down a number of rabbit holes.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: So, oh well, I'm gonna chase, you know, the lab results that we got and let's um let's address those specific infections first.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Um but a lot of times what needs to happen, so for example, um, I've detoxed a lot of uh various pharmaceuticals.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and what happens after that detox a lot of times is other symptoms start to fall away.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: So it's important to reassess the case at that point, understand what the forward-facing symptoms are and what the next layer is that is coming up to be treated, what presents itself to be treated, because the body is gonna heal itself in the direction that it wants to heal, not in the direction that you want it to heal.
49:01
SPEAKER_00: So as many times as parents have come to me saying, you know, we have to address this one thing, I'm gonna do my best to address that one thing.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: But if there that little body isn't ready to address that one thing, and then we got to peel back another layer and figure out how uh you know we can get at that next layer to address the thing that's bothering mom and dad the most, right?
49:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: Um then layer three is the core.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: So this is where we start to address initial trigger, like maybe this is something that happened during um gestation, right?
49:38
SPEAKER_00: Maybe this is something that happened at birth.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, those kinds of things, um, miasmatic layers.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: So we're looking at, you know, real deep um uh miasmatic uh generational trauma kinds of things.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: Um this is about depth, it's about resolving the case as much as possible and then bringing sustainable change.
50:00
SPEAKER_00: Um so this is kind of the direction that I guide a case um throughout uh you know a number of appointments.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: Um labels are layers, not necessarily a protocol list.
50:16
SPEAKER_00: So again, I'm not a huge fan of a bunch of protocols.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: I know that there are many homeopaths that treat very successfully with them, including, you know, people like Banner Gees.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: Um for me, I just I find that um the real symptom-based care, um, individualized care is what yields the best results.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, I realize that's not the most efficient way to treat.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: And so I do understand uh the reasoning behind a lot of these protocols.
50:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, but um for me, um I've just found that uh this approach is uh a little bit more impactful for the people that I'm dealing with.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: All right.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, so neuropsychiatric, OCD, ticks, rage, anxiety, these are usually like the loudest layer, um, but it doesn't necessarily represent the full picture.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: So you can have a kid who's very sweet and kind, you know, 99% of the time.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: And during a rage, they are like, you know, they people talk about like the exorcist, right?
51:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's you know that that's not your child, but if we prescribe based on that uh only that um picture, then um we're we're not getting a full understanding of that child's constitution.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: And we gotta look at infectious and autoimmune disease, um, pans, Lyme, strep, um viruses.
51:45
SPEAKER_00: This is another layer, right?
51:47
SPEAKER_00: So this is uh frequently conflated within a variety of labels that again do not address the cause.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: So I cannot tell you how many kids.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: I'll give you another example.
51:58
SPEAKER_00: So I've had a lot of young girls lately uh coming into my practice who are diagnosed with anorexia.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: And um, anorexia is uh refusal to eat, but the majority of these girls are actually kids with OCD and RFID and uh challenges with a number of things like emetophobia, for example, or fear of vomiting, and not girls with anorexia.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, what happens is once they get that diagnosis, uh they will often go into inpatient care and um they're trying to address it with behavior modification, which rarely works because again, we're not addressing the, you know, whatever the gut dysfunction is and all of these other infections that are a piece of this um RFID presentation, which looks a lot like anorexia because they're young girls and they're refusing to eat.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: All right.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: Um developmental and genetic.
53:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is terrain, this is uh genetic SNPs that are going to create challenges because you know, maybe detoxification pathways are limited.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there's issues with histamine, for example, and so this child is uh going to go into a highly inflammatory state very often.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: Um uh there's a lot of variabilities obviously that go into that.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, drug and suppression history, so antibiotics, steroids, psych meds, IVIG.
53:36
SPEAKER_00: Um uh anyway, is this a true symptom or a potential side effect?
53:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm looking at the time and freaking out a little bit, so I'm gonna try to go as quickly as possible.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: So um hierarchy of care.
53:49
SPEAKER_00: So what is threatening function now?
53:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, this is primarily where I begin every single case.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: All right.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, I told you I'd give methodology.
53:59
SPEAKER_00: This is kind of the secret sauce, right?
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Where what is threatening function now?
54:03
SPEAKER_00: Sleep, eating, aggression, school collapse.
54:05
SPEAKER_00: What is the acute crisis?
54:08
SPEAKER_00: And let's work on the chronic terrain as much as possible in the background.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: But what is the acute crisis?
54:15
SPEAKER_00: Let's get to that right away.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, nobody should be uh feeling unsafe, right?
54:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then we start to go into what is the stranger or peculiar, and I'm not talking about a diagnosis, even a rare diagnosis is not a good idea of a symptom picture, right?
54:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, look for the symptom that no label actually explains.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: Um trying to think of that was something that came up the other day.
54:42
SPEAKER_00: It's gone, but anyway, um, they're often very, very strange, like kids that are obsessed with like trains or things like that or sea animals.
54:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, that actually came up recently.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: Um okay, most recent and changeable versus lifelong terrain.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: So what has come up um recently, what has uh what has changed recently um versus like okay, this has always been a symptom.
55:12
SPEAKER_00: Um so maybe this is a personality trait, actually.
55:15
SPEAKER_00: Um treat the storm first and then map the climate.
55:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, obstacles that will make any similar look like a failure.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: So um suppression, diet, medications, mold, sleep, debt.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think this is a hugely important takeaway.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: Um clear the path before you read the response.
55:35
SPEAKER_00: Meaning if this child is eating garbage and they're not sleeping and they're not pooping, um, then um that's gonna be a difficult talk with mom and dad about how do we change those things in order to start seeing a positive response.
55:51
SPEAKER_00: Can homeopathy still make a dent?
55:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
55:55
SPEAKER_00: But if you're not, if they're not willing to go into and and change some of these pieces that will help um build a robust terrain, it's gonna be uh infinitely more difficult.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: All right.
56:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay, sequencing without losing the thread.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: The other care, sorry, the original characteristics picture.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, so write it down, date it, and this is what I mean by this.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: Um sometimes parents will tell me things like, um, oh, um this is my child is um extremely depressed.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, um, what does that mean?
56:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, this is how it impacts her, this is how she's acting.
56:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and I say, okay, can you put a number on it?
56:40
SPEAKER_00: If you know, zero is like never ever depressed, and 10 is like she won't get out of bed for anything or anyone or um any particular activity, um, then where would she fall on that particular scale?
56:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, when you ask a patient to put a number on it, it invites them to be able to revisit that and you can give um you know positive reports.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: Even if the changes are slight, they can start to see that as the child improves, that things are improving, uh, the numbers are improving along with that.
57:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay, the first true response, note what you note what told you the direction was correct, even if it's just a small change, again, note it.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: Try to put a number on it if you can.
57:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, try to quantify it as much as possible with the patient, get their buy-in, and then as you go back and review, that can really help.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, um when sometimes uh you go too deep or too fast or things go sideways, but it's important to document what returned, what amplified, what kind of muddied the picture.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's not something you did, something, you know, a sickness at school or a new medication or something like that.
58:05
SPEAKER_00: So just put all of those things in your record.
58:09
SPEAKER_00: Um healing aggravation, new layer, wrong prescription or wrong timing.
58:14
SPEAKER_00: These are not the same.
58:15
SPEAKER_00: So learning to distinguish them is a core skill of long-term case management.
58:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, same same case, new chapter.
58:22
SPEAKER_00: So be cautious about repetition here because um a lot of times um we will go back to a prior prescription just because we're like, oh, well, that worked well in this scenario.
58:36
SPEAKER_00: But the presentation might be completely different.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: So really kind of make sure that you're prescribing based on the current state rather than going back and just thinking about um, well, this worked at that period of time.
58:50
SPEAKER_00: You might be in a new state entirely.
58:53
SPEAKER_00: All right, journey to resolution.
58:55
SPEAKER_00: So these cases can move in seasons.
58:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna kind of skip through this as much as possible because I've got a lot more to go.
59:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, contradiction is normal.
59:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, mixed miasmatic and mixed infectious pictures create uh competing symptom layers that resist a single remedy thread.
59:16
SPEAKER_00: So um a lot of times uh these kids will uh have massive contradictions.
59:22
SPEAKER_00: So let's say it's um, you know, uh the remedy is uh better by the seaside, right?
59:30
SPEAKER_00: And they're like parent says, yeah, well, um they used to love the beach and now they hate the beach.
59:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, so in those particular scenarios, sometimes um there's gonna be contradictions between the Materia Medica and what you feel is the best um totality fit.
59:50
SPEAKER_00: So sometimes you'll want to kind of consider um that remedy uh despite it being a contradiction um in the Materia Medica, and we'll get into polarity here as well.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: Um consider barriers to the cure also, and you don't want to discount other modalities that could help that child, right?
1:00:12
SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of times um there are other uh you know adjuncts things that you can really do to help that child.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_00: I always say that for me the most important thing is to help that child um improve as quickly as possible.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: And if that means, you know, giving them um some saffron to help their mood or um some herbs to help, you know, uh tamper down some of the gut bacteria, to me, that's uh I I want to move the case along as quickly as possible.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_00: Okay, wrong potency, wrong remedy, or wrong timing.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, how can you tell the difference?
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: So potency selection or posology should be a frequency match and not a protocol.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times I'll see practitioners that come out the gate and they're like, yeah, well, I'm comfortable with only the lower potencies.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_00: And um I think that can often be a huge hindrance and can create a lot of aggravation because when you're addressing something that's really deep, like miasmatic kind of uh layer, and you're only giving, say, a you know, a 30C potency, a lot of times you're just pushing it up to the surface and you're not helping it to resolve.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: So um make sure that whatever selection you're making, that you're making it on purpose, not just because you've been told to dose in a 30c or 200C potency.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, really be intentional.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, know what it is that you're going after and uh the layer that you're addressing, and then use the potency to match the frequency of that particular symptom.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_00: All right, um choose the layer that is running the show, not the loudest diagnosis.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, you want to do things sequentially, not just scatter gun.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_00: So don't just throw a bunch of remedies at um these kids, but um be be intentional.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, plateau is information that's not necessarily failure.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: So understand where the obstacles are to cure in order to continue the case uh movement.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_00: Beyond the beyond the totality, so how no sod, sarcodes, pharmaclears, and ponderables, and even things like herbal tinctures and targeted supplementation impact case resolution.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_00: So, what kinds of things do we assess?
1:02:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, first steps, and then looking at a protocol as a whole.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_00: I cannot tell you how many practitioners are putting these kids on literal laundry lists of um, I mean, it's like two pages long, some of these protocols.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_00: It's unbelievable to me.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_00: I remember the first time um my son and I went to uh a practitioner who I really loved.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, he was a naturopath, and um he uh, you know, did a bunch of testing and and came back with all these um supplements for him to take.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_00: He was like six or seven, and um they were all capsules.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_00: And uh he wanted me to give my seven-year-old um, I don't know how many.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_00: I I, you know, it was more than 10, let's just say that, um, per day.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: And he did not know how to swallow one.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_00: And so I frantically was trying to figure out how to hide all of these, you know, things in a variety of foods, and of course, um gave up rather quickly because uh that just I realized that that was never gonna work.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, so look at the protocol as a whole, um, meaning look at your patient's um current protocol, see if maybe there's some things that you might be able to chat with them about, you know, what kinds of things if you have a relationship with their other practitioner, hey, you know, is there a few things that we can maybe consolidate?
1:04:10
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, there this patient's just kind of overwhelmed.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, so you can put together the most amazing protocol, but if they cannot follow it, um, it's not going to help anybody.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_00: So keep that in mind.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh, determine your expertise.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times your expertise um might be um uh in um Chinese medicine, for example, or naturopathy, or um, you know, there's a number of things that that you know many of you I know are are trained in, some of you are more conventional, like um nurse practitioners and things like that.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_00: What is your expertise?
1:04:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then acknowledge the need to collaborate sometimes for the best outcome.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_00: So is there somebody else you need to collaborate with in order to gain results for that particular patient?
1:04:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, or is it something that you want to learn on your own?
1:05:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, prioritize using the available tools to help the patient rather than a strict adherence to dogma or principles.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_00: This kind of echoes what I had said at the very beginning about a classical approach.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_00: So there are a number of my colleagues who unfortunately don't believe that anybody should be taking anything else while they're taking a homeopathic remedy.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_00: Um I just really feel like it's more important to get kids better as quickly as possible.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_00: And so um if that means giving them some vitamin C, um, by all means please give them some vitamin C.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_00: Okay, the chronic patient.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, the chronic patient will come to you with, again, binders of medications, binders of herbs and supplements.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_00: They have a practitioner for every part of their body, right?
1:05:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, they've got endocrinology, neurology, um, they've got a functional doc, they've got a chiropractor, they've got, you know, all of these doctors that are doing all of these things.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_00: And you have to understand where you fit in to um that particular patient's uh sorry, there's a bunch of people joining right now.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_00: So uh I'm wondering if you guys got the wrong time, unfortunately.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_00: Um that may have been on my part.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_00: So I apologize, but um we're about halfway through and I still I have got like 20 minutes left.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm gonna keep talking as much as possible, but just a reminder that the recording is gonna go out.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so um when you have all of these patients, a lot of times what happens is they see all these practitioners and they add one or two things from every single practitioner.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_00: And then they've got duplicates of things, they've got a number of things that they don't even know why they're taking it, they don't understand um what this does and what that does.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_00: And um so and there's very little um idea of what baseline looks like anymore.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_00: Um I am a firm believer that a lot of times it is best to simplify as much as possible.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_00: So when you have a patient who comes in, they're on you know 50 different Things, this huge protocol list.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, you sometimes it's best to be like, okay, you know, why are you on this?
1:07:23
SPEAKER_00: Why are you on this?
1:07:24
SPEAKER_00: Why are you and they're like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay, why don't we consult with your other practitioners?
1:07:30
SPEAKER_00: Let's figure out you know what all of these things are doing.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we don't need to be on these things anymore.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's true of medications as well.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, one of the things that I've encouraged patients to do is that when they go on medication to uh make sure that there's an exit strategy.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_00: Number one, if the medication doesn't work um or if it has a variety of side effects, um, there needs to be a very clear strategy that, you know, if this doesn't work, okay, what are we gonna do?
1:08:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, and what is the the plan of attack?
1:08:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, talk that over with their practitioners, with their doctors, because um those kinds of responses will give you a good idea of um how invested that particular doctor is in truly helping your child versus just throwing a bunch of meds at you.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, when support helps, and support, I mean um things like herbs and supplements um or adding um things like LDI, a variety of other modalities.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_00: Um LDI is still homeopathic, but it is um fairly different from uh what I do as far as you know single dose nosods and things like that.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_00: So when support helps, it opens an obstacle like sleep, bowel, rampant inflammation, poor nutrition, um, so that the remedy response can be read.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_00: And I think this is really important because a lot of times the resistance is that, oh, well, we don't know what the remedy is doing if you're um utilizing other things.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, um, we also don't know what the remedy is doing if your child is only sleeping two hours a night.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, the vast majority of kids that aren't sleeping are are not going to um be, you know, lovely um compliant children when they wake up, right?
1:09:23
SPEAKER_00: So um so we need to make sure that those things are happening uh so that we then can understand what that remedy is doing.
1:09:32
SPEAKER_00: If there are huge obstacles uh in the way, um then we want to address those.
1:09:39
SPEAKER_00: Um support can also preserve safety.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, this is a huge priority.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, again, you know, I've got kids that come to me super violent, super anxious, super depressed, um, and are, you know, threatening suicide and um, you know, homicide and all of these kinds of things, very dangerous.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_00: So we want to make sure that we address safety for the child as well as everybody else in the household.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, that's always going to be priority number one.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_00: Is time uh limited and serves as support and not as a second constitution running in parallel.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_00: So we're utilizing support um in a uh very targeted way again.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_00: Um and it also leaves the characteristic picture visible and attributable at every follow-up.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_00: So, right, when kids are sleeping and pooping and um you know don't have a bunch of inflammation or they're like eating actual real food, that can really help um clear up the picture.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_00: When does support muddy?
1:10:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, if we're trying to target a whole bunch of things.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_00: So let's say sleep and pooping and uh you know, all of the things that I listed are all uh major challenges.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_00: And so I do, you know, one herb for this and uh one supplement for that, and what you know, those kinds of things versus okay, what is the overall picture?
1:11:08
SPEAKER_00: What is the main challenge right now?
1:11:10
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's inflammation or histamine issues.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_00: So what do we need to address very clearly and um targeted when treatment is conducted by multiple practitioners without communication?
1:11:23
SPEAKER_00: Again, so like if we've got five practitioners all treating the same child, we don't communicate, we don't know what other practitioners are, I mean um what their methodology is, we don't understand why they're you know prescribing in the way that they're prescribing.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_00: Um there's probably a method to their madness, just as there's a method to yours, but um if you don't know what that is, then it might be really difficult to kind of um intuit.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then treating labs instead of addressing the current symptom picture.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_00: So this is a big one because a lot of times I have kids come back positive on, you know, they'll pop positive on a number of different infections.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_00: And if I went after every single one of those infections with a nose hode, for example, um, I would be, you know, chasing my tail because uh ultimately the various infections have a very distinct uh presentation.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_00: So when I see that presentation um uh behaviorally, oftentimes I can uh deduce that we need to dose that particular nose out.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_00: Also, as as gut function starts to return, some of those pathogens just fall away.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_00: So we don't see those uh same types of symptoms pop up.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, um decision trees, what is the simplest way to reduce symptoms severity, frequency, or both?
1:12:43
SPEAKER_00: How will I know in seven to ten days if it helped?
1:12:46
SPEAKER_00: What will I stop if the sorry, if the picture blurs, and then is this for the child or for the parent?
1:12:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you can always dose the parent too, um, if they're willing.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh, something I've done as well.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_00: Polarity in action.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_00: So this goes back to uh homeopathy.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_00: We have um very distinct polarities.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of times when you read through Materia Medica, it will show you the most uh extreme level of that particular picture.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_00: Understand that that there is a spectrum and that there is a polarity to those kinds of things.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't have time to get into a whole lot of that, but utilizing experience as your guide, your experience is as applied to homeopathic prescribing.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_00: So for example, I took the master practitioner seminar with Hillary Dorian.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_00: Hilary Dorian uh was originally uh an acupuncturist and trained in Chinese medicine.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_00: So her lens of Chinese medicine helped to uh ultimately guide her as a homeopath because she knew a lot about uh many of the herbs uh that were utilized in homeopathic potency and how they might impact her patients.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_00: Umpathy to address the energetic root of the chronic state.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_00: So again, you know, things like uh persistent strep, um, which is huge.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, we can utilize uh strepnosode, for example, to go after that chronic root that keeps popping up over and over and over again and to stop that cycle.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, all right.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_00: Personal family experience provides a layer of empathy, obviously, for complex patients, and your prior training can bring insight into a case that others might not see.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_00: Keep your protocols clear, simple, and easy to follow.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_00: And if a patient cannot implement, you can't have impact.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_00: You just can't, unfortunately.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, remember the polarity of your remedies.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, don't be so distracted by one piece of Materia Medica that you miss a crucial piece to that case.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_00: And use your experience to guide the case.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so um is homeopathy already part of your toolkit?
1:15:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'd love to kind of hear from you guys in the chat.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_00: Is it something that you're already using?
1:15:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, what kinds of patients are you looking to work with?
1:15:10
SPEAKER_00: Would you like to outsource to a homeopath or do you want to learn to use homeopathy so that you can further help your patients?
1:15:18
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's just something that you've dabbled in at home, you've maybe taken a couple of acute prescriber courses.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm interested to know.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_00: So if you're wanting to put anything in the chat, I'm happy to respond.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna keep moving through my slides while you guys are typing, but um, so what have we covered?
1:15:39
SPEAKER_00: So the role of homeopathy in a modern era practice treating complex cases and the benefit of simplifying patient protocols as much as possible.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_00: We want to keep these things as streamlined and uh conservative as possible to to elicit the most impact um in the quickest amount of time.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_00: Foundational training continues to improve, it still can only scratch the surface.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, complex chronic conditions really do require persistence and a lot of experience.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, and we kind of went through a lot of these things.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_00: All right, so what I didn't have time to share tonight, there is no protocol per diagnosis in homeopathy.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_00: In other words, people constantly say, What do I need to take for this diagnosis?
1:16:33
SPEAKER_00: I have ADHD, I have OCD, I have anxiety.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_00: That is going to be highly dependent on that particular patient and how they are doing that disorder rather than um, you know, what kinds of things, uh, what kinds of labels that some doctor has decided that they are uh worthy of, right?
1:16:54
SPEAKER_00: Um the clinical experience that has guided in this lecture, I've kind of given you a few little snippets from my clinical experience.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, and we haven't really gone into any Materia Medica whatsoever, obviously, because um I really wanted to focus and hone in on methodology, um, the homeopathic principles that make it so successful, whether used as a standalone treatment or as adjunct care.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_00: So um I'm gonna see if this'll play.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_00: Let's see here.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_00: Can you guys hear that?
1:18:40
SPEAKER_00: Typing in chat.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there are people typing in chat.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh I will try to just send this out with the um recording, but essentially this is uh a patient that I've worked with uh two of her boys as well as her, and um she's now a homeopathy student um with Remedy Academy, which has been really amazing to kind of watch that journey.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, she talks about uh the journey that she uh went on for about two years with a classical homeopath.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_00: They did see some initial results and then stalled, um, like I had mentioned before and didn't see any results and just kept backsliding for a very long time.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_00: And once we started working together, um they started seeing results and and now her her two boys are thriving and um you know are starting to ask about potentially going to school, which was like totally unheard of.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_00: So um all of these things um uh that have where I have utilized this method successfully, and um now not only has it impacted her kids, but um gotten to the point where she is even training as a homeopath herself, which it makes me really excited.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_00: Um so I really wanted to start build uh building a training that was uh that had a different starting point.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of people that I know have been um utilizing homeopathy for a long time, but they aren't necessarily as familiar or as comfortable with some of these complex cases.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_00: So um I did just start uh open up applications.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_00: I have a one-year master course, it is by application only, um, and it starts in March of 2027.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_00: So if that's something that interests you, if you feel like uh after listening to today's presentation that um you know you'd really like to start working with some of these cases, uh, I'd be more than willing to chat with you.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_00: If you are not a current uh practitioner, um then go ahead and fill out the application anyway.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_00: Um there are a number of uh acute prescriber types of courses that will give you the basic rundown of homeopathy so that um you know you can get uh a good uh head start on what kinds of things we'll be talking about.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_00: Because again, it's a different starting point.
1:21:30
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not gonna go into the specifics of you know homeopathic history or um uh really uh ideas of succussion or um a variety of uh different methods.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_00: Really, what we're gonna focus and hone in on is treating these complex cases and how to break down the methodology as well as of course the Material Medica throughout that course.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, that being said, I would love to take any of your questions.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_00: If you can access the chat, and if you cannot, um then uh maybe we'll um unmute.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_00: Are you able if you're able to raise your hand, um maybe we could do that?
1:22:10
SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I do have a couple questions in the chat.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_00: So how long do you want patients to use a remedy?
1:22:24
SPEAKER_00: So it really kind of depends.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, but essentially what I'm looking for is what layer are we peeling back?
1:22:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, because that's gonna make a difference.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_00: And once we complete a round of that particular remedy, let's say it's uh a month of a remedy, let's say it's you know a single dose or a couple of doses, um, we want to kind of reassess at that point and figure out, okay, is it the same symptom picture?
1:22:55
SPEAKER_00: Is it a new symptom picture?
1:22:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, and also what are we targeting?
1:22:59
SPEAKER_00: So is this more of a constitutional type totality remedy that might be good for that particular patient in the future?
1:23:07
SPEAKER_00: Maybe, um, or is it something that then we're uh that we want to look at in the future again?
1:23:14
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes that uh is the case as well.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_00: So um uh it's hard for me to answer that question because I I treat every single patient completely individually, and so um yeah, it's very it's very difficult for me to answer that question because all of my patients um uh are gonna get a different answer depending on what what layer we are addressing in that particular uh uh phase of the treatment.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_00: You said to prioritize available tools over dogma and that support like sleep ball work, inflammation, and nutrition should open the obstacle.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_00: So the remedies response can be read for a child who's only sleeping two hours is unsafe.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_00: How do you practically decide what support you put in first and how long you keep it time limited and how you then know what is remedy effect versus support effect, especially when that child is already on 50 things with an exit strategy that was never discussed?
1:24:14
SPEAKER_00: Wow, okay, so this is a loaded question.
1:24:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, but um here's what I'll say.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_00: So um if the the um basics are not being met, if there's no sleep, if the um bowels are not moving, if there um is rage off the charts 24-7, um, histamine kinds of flaring, um, if they're in a horrible moldy environment, for example, all of these things need to be addressed in order to um bring that child into a little bit of stability.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_00: And truly, you don't know what is gonna be helping until those things are addressed.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_00: So um what I would do in those specific scenarios is address it both homeopathically as well as supportively.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_00: So um I'm gonna help with homeopathic remedies as much as I can.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, if there's no sleep and there's a lot of rage, I'm gonna go after some of the rage behaviors, see if we can't minimize some of that while we also simultaneously work on the sleep.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_00: Um if there's um a lot of anxiety and the child is extremely constipated, I'm gonna work on both of those simultaneously.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_00: In the end, you know, to be honest, it really doesn't matter what is working as long as we get the child pooping and we bring down the behaviors, right?
1:25:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, and from my perspective, if we're doing that from both sides of the equation, then we're gonna elicit uh stronger results much faster rather than having to wait for a long period of time.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_00: So in true classical homeopathy, we would take a uh, you know, dose of remedy and then let it, you know, let it ride for, you know, some of some practitioners say, you know, up to a month.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_00: Um if a kid is not sleeping more than two hours a night, I I don't know, I'm not willing to wait that long.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, so uh, you know, in some of those scenarios, things like melatonin, um, just to get the child sleeping because that's where in all of the repair um is happening, um, you know, I'm not opposed to something like that because I think it's really important uh for the healing process to make sure that those particular things are happening.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_00: So um I hope that answers your question.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_00: But um basically what I'm saying is we we want to address it from as many sides as we possibly can to move the case um in in order to get some kind of resolve.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_00: Any other questions?
1:26:59
SPEAKER_00: I've got a couple more minutes here.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_00: Um if you would like to unmute yourself um or uh type in the chat, you're welcome to do that.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_00: Um I do on the website have a number of uh um some of the curriculum as well.
1:27:26
SPEAKER_00: So if you're interested in kind of learning more about what kinds of things we will be talking about throughout the um uh master course, then um by all means uh go ahead and check that out.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_00: It is uh heartwinghealing.com slash master dash course.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, but if you go on the website, you can find it um pretty easily.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_00: Um I am limiting applications, so um, you know, I want to make it a pretty small group, uh a group that is manageable so that all of you have time to take cases on your own.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_00: Um we will do lots of clinical work.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, I will take cases live.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_00: Um you will also have the opportunity to take cases as well with supervision so that you know we can kind of talk through those uh those cases.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_00: It's really more of a mentorship program because ultimately my goal is to make it so that these kids don't struggle um as much as they are.
1:28:35
SPEAKER_00: I want to make sure that all of these kids that want homeopathic care can receive it.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_00: So um, all right.
1:28:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm not seeing uh so all of the details are on the website.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't have everything available at my disposal at the moment, but um yeah, pricing, uh timing, all of that is on the website.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_00: Um so just go to heartwinghealing.com and um you can click on master class or master course.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I'm butchering what it says, but anyway, you can find it.
1:29:13
SPEAKER_00: Um all the information is on that page and as well as the application form.
1:29:18
SPEAKER_00: Um so you can go ahead and fill out the application form if you're interested in applying.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_00: And um I look forward to seeing your application and meeting all of you.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_00: And uh thank you so much.