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Ole Miss Matchup Preview, Longhorn Basketball Exhibitions Underway, Memorable Snow Games and More! · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: We have arrived at the midweek, at the humpiest of days,
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  Speaker 1: trying to help you get over that hump and on
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  Speaker 1: the downhill run to the weekend. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300 The Zone,
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  Speaker 1: where we bring you conversation and invite your conversation and
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts as well from two to five. each and
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  Speaker 1: every weekday afternoon, Monday through Friday. My name is Craig Wade.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us. Thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. Let me tell you what's coming up.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to hear a little bit here momentarily from
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  Speaker 1: the Texas women's basketball coach, Vic Schaefer, and the men's
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  Speaker 1: head coach, Sean Miller, because both of their teams have,
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  Speaker 1: and I think this is fair to say, high-profile exhibition
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  Speaker 1: games on Sunday. the Longhorn men will be in New York,
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  Speaker 1: and it'll be an 11 a.m. tip-off against St. John's
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  Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden. And the Texas women, who already
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  Speaker 1: had a road exhibition game, have a pseudo home game
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday when they host the defending national champion UCLA
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  Speaker 1: Bruins in Cedar Park at the HEB Center. That's a
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  Speaker 1: game that we will broadcast for you, and you can
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  Speaker 1: hear it right here On 13 under the zone, 12.45 airtime,
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  Speaker 1: 1 o'clock tip-off on that. So we'll hear from both
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  Speaker 1: of those coaches coming up here in just a few moments.
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  Speaker 1: Right around the corner, coming up here in about 15
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  Speaker 1: minutes or so, David Kellum is the play-by-play voice of
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  Speaker 1: the Ole Miss Rebels. And DK will join us to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, from the Ole Miss perspective and their side
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  Speaker 1: of things, this matchup between the Rebels and the Texas Longhorns.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have that. We'll have inconceivable this hour as we
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  Speaker 1: invariably do. We'll have that coming up in the three
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  Speaker 1: o'clock hour. We have pushed back our conversation with Greg
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  Speaker 1: Tepper by one day from yesterday to today, the editor
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  Speaker 1: in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas football magazine. There's plenty
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  Speaker 1: of things to talk about. This is a high profile
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  Speaker 1: weekend of district games. There are some massive district games
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  Speaker 1: across the state and we'll, We'll talk with TEP about that. Also,
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  Speaker 1: the latest induction class to be announced for the Texas
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  Speaker 1: High School Football Hall of Fame. That induction banquet will
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  Speaker 1: take place in Waco next May. But they announced the
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  Speaker 1: class yesterday. I mentioned it on yesterday's program. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: run through it again with TEP. So we'll do that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk some college football in the state of Texas
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  Speaker 1: with Greg Tepper as well. We're going to hear from
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  Speaker 1: Longhorn players. We'll hear from Justin Cryer. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 1: Hiro Kanu as well. And then in the four o'clock hour,
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  Speaker 1: bring you something that I was listening to this earlier
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  Speaker 1: today here on The Zone where we bring you The
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  Speaker 1: Herd with Colin Cowherd every day. He had Brady Quinn
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  Speaker 1: on with him. Brady Quinn, of course, played quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame and he played seven seasons in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: and Worked, I think, briefly at ESPN, but has been
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  Speaker 1: with Fox for the past several years. And he's part
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  Speaker 1: of the Big Noon kickoff crew. And Brady Quinn was
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  Speaker 1: on with Colin Cowherd. And he talks, he does a
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  Speaker 1: really good cross-section of commentary and thought on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of college football matters, including the Texas Longhorns and Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted you to hear that, as well as
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  Speaker 1: he talks about Ohio State. Notre Dame, Miami, the National Championship, Chase,
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  Speaker 1: and then what appears to be the impending 2014 college
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  Speaker 1: football playoffs. Not official yet, but looks like all the
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  Speaker 1: signs are pointing in that direction that it'll be that.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll hear from him coming up. from a segment
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  Speaker 1: of Colin Cowherd's show. That's in the four o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do that. So got a lot of stuff to
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  Speaker 1: get to. As always, we welcome your questions, your comments,
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts. All you have to do is you can
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  Speaker 1: text the program. You text the word Texas, followed by
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  Speaker 1: your question or comment to 81530. A great gentleman yesterday
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  Speaker 1: come up to us when we were out at Boulevard Social.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope you can get out there. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't been out there before, up there on North Lamar,
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  Speaker 1: great place, tremendous food. in that sports bar and good
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  Speaker 1: television sets and things like that to be able to
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  Speaker 1: watch the games. They do WWE watch parties and things
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  Speaker 1: like that as well when they have those big events.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a great place to go in and grab
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  Speaker 1: a burger or a cold beverage or wings or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So that's at Boulevard Social up there on North Lamar.
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  Speaker 1: And so when we were over there yesterday, we talked
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  Speaker 1: about a variety of different things. and we'll hear some
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  Speaker 1: more from Longhorn players and also on other college football topics.
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  Speaker 1: The producer of the program here in the studio is
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  Speaker 1: Jay Kerman. You were in here yesterday, but I know
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  Speaker 1: you appreciate a good meal, so I'm sure it's now
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  Speaker 1: on your mind, curious about possibly popping by Boulevard when
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  Speaker 1: you get an opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious why nobody brought me anything. I was sitting
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  Speaker 2: in here ready to go. I had, like I said
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  Speaker 2: on the air, my fear of missing out. It came true.
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  Speaker 2: It sounded like you guys had a lot of fun
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 3: We did.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you a simple question. Who would
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  Speaker 1: be coming back this way to bring you something? Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good point. Linda and I hung out there
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  Speaker 1: to have an early dinner afterwards. But the other guys
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  Speaker 1: just scattered. Mark Henry's gone. Harge was gone. Cameron was gone.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's got places to be, huh?
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  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's the deal. Let's hear a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a basketball conversation before we get back
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  Speaker 1: to talking football. This is from Vic Schaefer. And this
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  Speaker 1: was coming after the loss at UConn and getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for the matchup with UCLA.
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  Speaker 4: Having the opportunity to play tonight was good for us,
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  Speaker 4: and hopefully it was good for Connecticut. When I look
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  Speaker 4: at the game, I mean, our standard at Texas is 60.
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  Speaker 4: And so we gave up 37 in the first half
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  Speaker 4: and then 46, I think, in the second half. So
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  Speaker 4: we obviously didn't live to the standard, but we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to live to the standard with all the new
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  Speaker 4: kids that we're playing right now we're probably going to
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  Speaker 4: struggle in that area for a while. You know, your
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  Speaker 4: defensive chemistry is the last thing that you get. Now,
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  Speaker 4: offensively tonight, we really, we struggle. And I thought we got,
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  Speaker 4: and again, I wear it, right? But I thought they
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  Speaker 4: were tough. Like, I thought Connecticut was really tough tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I thought we got out-toughed. We couldn't make a contested shot.
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  Speaker 4: We couldn't make a contested layup. And then on the
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  Speaker 4: other side, let me tell y'all something. you're going to
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  Speaker 4: lose the horse game. They had wide open shots and
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  Speaker 4: you're going to lose the horse game at this level.
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  Speaker 4: Any team in the top 10, top 15 in the
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  Speaker 4: country got kids that can make shots. And we talk
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  Speaker 4: about it all the time. You're going to lose the
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  Speaker 4: horse game. And we lost the horse game tonight. We
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  Speaker 4: left them wide open. They went three for 22 the
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  Speaker 4: other night. Tonight they went 10 for 18. But Great players,
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  Speaker 4: great shooters are going to make wide open shots. We
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  Speaker 4: didn't have too many wide open shots, y'all. You have
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  Speaker 4: to give them credit. I say this all the time.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Coach Ariyama doesn't get a lot of credit
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  Speaker 4: for his defense. And I think his defense is always good.
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  Speaker 4: You always talk about his offense and their flow and
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  Speaker 4: their movement. But I think defensively, his teams are always tough.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought they were tough tonight. I thought we
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  Speaker 4: just It's going to be a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: learning curve for us. We're playing a lot of young
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  Speaker 4: kids out there. Started two freshmen. You know, I brought
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  Speaker 4: some kids off the bench that haven't been in our
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  Speaker 4: program that are going to play a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And so they're kind of learning the standard that we have.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, they shot 53%
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  Speaker 4: for the game, but 64 in the second half. So
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  Speaker 4: that tells the old coach, we might have got tired.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We may have gotten.
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  Speaker 4: Just a little fatigued and a little tired, but I
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  Speaker 4: just thought tonight, from a toughness standpoint, we were not
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  Speaker 4: Texas tough, as we say. We backed out of some charges.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't sit well with me. We didn't get some
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  Speaker 4: 50-50 rebounds, some 50-50 balls. Point guard play was not great.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you're being pressed, you can't secede to
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  Speaker 4: somebody else doing your job. And so, again, as I
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  Speaker 4: told them, and Bree knows this because she's heard it
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  Speaker 4: from me when she'd come off the bench, when you're
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  Speaker 4: the point guard, you're in charge of that team and
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  Speaker 4: you're in charge of the offense. And if the offense
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  Speaker 4: isn't scoring, it falls on the point guard's job. Your
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  Speaker 4: job is to get us into a set, get us
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  Speaker 4: into something, and if the team's not scoring, it's just
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  Speaker 4: like the quarterback of a football team. It falls on
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  Speaker 4: your shoulders. So, I think they'll learn from it and
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  Speaker 4: grow from it. But, again, just too many uncontested shots.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think we played that hard in the second half. And, again,
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  Speaker 4: I thought both All-Americans were All-Americans tonight. That had to
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  Speaker 4: be fun to watch for a lot of y'all. I
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  Speaker 4: liked mine, and I didn't like watching the other one
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  Speaker 4: because she's pretty good. But I thought Maddie was really
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  Speaker 4: good tonight, competed. And we had some foul trouble, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: with Madison and Brea. Brea had a good first half,
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  Speaker 4: and second half, you know, I don't know that she
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  Speaker 4: scored in the second half. So, again, great opportunity. Glad
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  Speaker 4: we came first half. It's 37-37 and you're competing. But again,
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  Speaker 4: first five minutes is always the most important five minutes
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  Speaker 4: of a half. I didn't think we came out of
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  Speaker 4: the locker room and really realized that. But again, I
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  Speaker 4: got eight new players, y'all. So what I had to
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  Speaker 4: do tonight might have been different from what he had
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  Speaker 4: to do tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And that's okay.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with that at all. I
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  Speaker 5: think we all got better tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully we got better, which I think we did, and
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  Speaker 4: hopefully they did as well.
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  Speaker 1: And tonight there'll be an orange-white scrimmage for the Texas
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  Speaker 1: women at Moody Center. It's free, free parking as well.
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  Speaker 1: So take advantage of that if you get an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: All right, up next, we shift back to football. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to visit with David Kellum, play-by-play voice of the
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss Rebels when we continue on 13 Under the Zone. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we got a bit of true confession going on here
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  Speaker 1: on the Yacht Rock Wednesday. Back in August, it happened
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  Speaker 1: to fall on a Wednesday that we visited with my
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  Speaker 1: good friend David Kellum, the play-by-play voice of the Ole
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  Speaker 1: Miss Rebels. And we bump back with this particular tune,
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  Speaker 1: which is Bachman, Turner, Rotterdam Drives, looking out for number one.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked DK because I knew he was a
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  Speaker 1: big yacht rock fan and a classic rock fan. And
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  Speaker 1: he said, oh, yeah, I know all about BTO. Got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. But to be, and if I'm
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  Speaker 1: quoting him correctly, but to be honest, I thought I
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  Speaker 1: was going to need a martini. When he heard that.
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  Speaker 1: So I said, as David was getting ready to come
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  Speaker 1: back on, I said to Jake, oh, you got to
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  Speaker 1: pull up looking out for number one again. We got
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  Speaker 1: to go down that road again. So I appreciate the indulgence, DK.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's become my theme song. Anytime I talk
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  Speaker 3: to Craig White, it's the way to go when I
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  Speaker 3: talk to Craig White.
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  Speaker 1: And looking out for number one. And that's tough to
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  Speaker 1: do in this league, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want us to get the number one.
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  Speaker 3: I hope that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me, you don't want that. You don't want that.
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  Speaker 3: The league has been just crazy, hasn't it? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's something else. And I'm pleased you took an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: here to be on with us. And I have several
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  Speaker 1: questions to ask you. But the first thing I want
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  Speaker 1: to ask you, you've been around Ole Miss coaches for decades,
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  Speaker 1: just as I've been around Texas coaches for decades. I've watched...
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  Speaker 1: Pete Golding's news conference. And I came away from it
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  Speaker 1: being pretty impressed by the relaxed yet completely informative nature
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  Speaker 1: that he brought to the podium, if that makes sense. Because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can pull up press conferences from lots
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  Speaker 1: of different coaches. And there's that tension there, even when
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  Speaker 1: things are going well. I mean, the champ of all
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  Speaker 1: of it was Nick Saban, but there's that tension, even
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  Speaker 1: when things are going well. But Golding seems to have
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  Speaker 1: really comfortably transitioned into the head coaching role, starting being
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  Speaker 1: thrown right into the fire in the college football playoff,
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  Speaker 1: but then picking up from there. And I'm just curious
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  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on how he's handling everything, because
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  Speaker 1: it looks like he's handling all of it with quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit of aplomb. Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And he really, Craig, didn't have a desire to be
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  Speaker 3: the head coach, wanted to continue to be the defense
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  Speaker 3: coordinator and lane stay here.
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  Speaker 1: And yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 3: But when it became a possibility, he said, why not me?
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  Speaker 3: And obviously he had a plan on the day that
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  Speaker 3: that would happen. He immediately got out of his defense
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  Speaker 3: coordinator only mode, met all the offensive players, brought them
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  Speaker 3: in one by one, went out and got John David Baker,
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  Speaker 3: the great offense coordinator. So he did all the things.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know, it was the most amazing period
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  Speaker 3: a year ago. And the way he handled it, it
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  Speaker 3: was huge. I mean, it got us one play away
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  Speaker 3: from being in the national championship game. So he did
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  Speaker 3: a wonderful, wonderful job there. And then this is the
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  Speaker 3: first full year, and as a fan, kind of looking
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  Speaker 3: from a distance, you go, okay, so he did really
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  Speaker 3: good last year. Is he going to be the right
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  Speaker 3: guy to be our head coach? I think there's no
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  Speaker 3: doubt about it. And he's not necessarily laid back. He's
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  Speaker 3: just focused, very, very focused. You know, a ball coach,
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of nonsense, and holds the players accountable
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  Speaker 3: and wants them to become the best version that they
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  Speaker 3: can become. But, yeah, I think he pretty much nailed it.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that I don't think has
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  Speaker 3: any fear. He's been with Saban as a defense coordinator,
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  Speaker 3: just like Sark was over there. And so those guys
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  Speaker 3: that kind of come out of that tree, they've been
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  Speaker 3: singed a little bit, I guess. And so they get
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  Speaker 3: it for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say this too, and I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: to see what you think about this. For years, and
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  Speaker 1: we still hear it, but for years, the past several years,
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  Speaker 1: the buzzword in just about any college football program, especially
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  Speaker 1: for a coach taking on his first year, was the
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  Speaker 1: C word, culture. Everything was about culture. Now I'm hearing
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  Speaker 1: the A word, and you just said it, accountability. And
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  Speaker 1: I heard him say it the other day. Sark has
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  Speaker 1: had to drop that in saying accountability has to go
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  Speaker 1: around when you're not playing the way you should or
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  Speaker 1: even when you are playing well. And so folks may
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  Speaker 1: wonder what exactly does that mean other than, hey, my
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  Speaker 1: bad if I made a mistake. But it means several things,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it? And I'm sure it does to Coach Golding.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think so. And the thing, too, now that
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  Speaker 3: they're making money, you hate it to a certain extent.
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  Speaker 3: We've always said through the years, oh, they're just 18, 19, 20-year-olds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but now they're 18, 19, 20-year-olds are getting paid for
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  Speaker 3: their craft and what they're doing. And so it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like you can't be a kid anymore. You got
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  Speaker 3: to grow up and be more pro-like. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of the downside of it. The NIL and
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  Speaker 3: the portal transfers and all that, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: good to it. You take like Keewon Lacey for us,
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  Speaker 3: who was in a running back room where he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: going to play at Missouri, so he needed to find
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  Speaker 3: another opportunity. Austin Simmons, who just left us and went
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  Speaker 3: to Missouri. was behind trinidad chandler's he's a fantastic quarterback
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  Speaker 3: so i think that you know it's good in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of ways and i'm not against them getting paid
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  Speaker 3: by any means but i do think that it has
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  Speaker 3: it has really increased accountability for players i mean you
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  Speaker 3: don't need to be missing missing meetings there's a fine
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  Speaker 3: system in a lot of schools going on too and
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  Speaker 3: uh but but yeah i think that that that's a
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  Speaker 3: good way to nail it with especially with.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Well, you brought up Kiwan Lacey. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on him. You know, I know people
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  Speaker 1: think of him as a former Missouri Tiger. Let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you something. I know him as a former Lancaster Tiger,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. But he, I think,
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  Speaker 1: has done a really good job in having to work
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  Speaker 1: through and around the injury bug that he's had to
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  Speaker 1: deal with this season. How would you describe what he's
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  Speaker 1: gone through and where he is at the moment?
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  Speaker 3: Very, very tough kid. He's had a banged up shoulder
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, had a little bit of a hamstring
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  Speaker 3: twinge in this last game, and he just keeps on rolling,
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  Speaker 3: gets on the bike, does what he needs to do.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm sure we're not putting him full throttle through
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  Speaker 3: practice as much. But, yeah, we were over in Dallas
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  Speaker 3: for what we call Rebel Road Trip, and we had 500,
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  Speaker 3: 600 people show up. We've got so many Texas students now, Craig.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. And Ole Miss has just been kind of
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a popular spot for a lot of the Texas kids.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: And we had, I think, half of the crowd were
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Texans who had attended Ole Miss. I kind of asked
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: that question. But we took Kiwan because we thought that,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: you know, he would be loved in that area.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: And he really was.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's very popular. in that area and all, but, uh,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: he's been fantastic for us and is just a tough kid. He's,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: we're a different team when he's in there. We got
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: a really good room, probably a better overall running back
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: room than we had even a year ago. Uh, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Frazier's great. Does a good job. Lindsay is too, but Lacey's,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Lacey's a difference maker. I mean, he's, he's considered a
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Heisman possibility for, for a reason. Um, And hopefully we
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: can get him healthier and he can get more playing
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: time to go. He got over 100 yards against Missouri,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: even though he was banged up. So that's how important
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: he is to our offense.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm in complete agreement with you that he probably
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: would be a Heisman Trophy if the guy who's handing
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: him the football wasn't probably front and center on that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: We talked before the season what a great guy Trinidad
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Chambliss is and what he means to us. to the program.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And now with the weight of the world, obviously thrust
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: on him as the quarterback, he has performed remarkably well.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: How about your thoughts, both in the disappointment of the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: loss to Florida and what he has done, obviously, before
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and since?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Well, and you know, even in that game, he played
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: exceptionally well. He played well in the Florida game. We
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: just didn't defensively. We were terrible. And we kind of
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: came back and had some powwows with the team. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: since then, we've been really good defense, especially against Missouri.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: We held them down in the running game and they'd
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: been fantastic the previous two weeks. So we felt really
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: good about our defensive front and all. And, and, They
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: have continued to play well, but we're just missing a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: bunch of tackles. And I think Pete, as a defense
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: coordinator by trade, solved that a little bit. But Trinidad
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: played well in that game. And, you know, here's the
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: thing about him, Craig. So he comes from Ferris State.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure in his mind, he's not real sure,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: do I belong at this level? And so we go
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: out and look at him last year as a backup
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: quarterback in practice. Harry Harrison is my color analyst. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: we went on, so let's go look at this kid
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: from Ferris State. So we go over to the practice
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: field and watch him and say, hey, he's going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: be all right. If something should happen to Austin Simmons
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: or if we need him, he can handle it. He
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: can handle it. So he ended up just exploding onto
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the scene. Unfortunately, Austin does go down. We pretty much
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: had Austin Pennsylvania as the number one guy all year
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: last year, but the injury was slow to recovery, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Trinidad just got better and better. But the thing that
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I like about him is he's still very humble, even
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: though now everybody's bragging about him and he's on the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Heisman list and all of these things. He's still working
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: on his craft. He wants to be better. It's only
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: halfway through the second year he's played in Division I.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: And so he's been very humble and super, super talented.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: But we've also watched him get better game by game,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: making the throws better. He had a couple of misses
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: in this last game, but then he turned it on
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and hit some fantastic passes down the stretch. So knows
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: when to run, very cerebral, if you will, as a quarterback.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: And you always feel like you got a chance when
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you've got him.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when you've got receivers like Deuce Alexander
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and Horatio Fields, that makes a big difference, and certainly
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: they're worth the wait. I want to ask you about
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the other guy, the former Longhorn, John Tate Cook, because
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: he had, and I call it a state championship games
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: when he played at DeSoto, and he had some big
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: moments in Texas, but it didn't work out from there,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and then went to Syracuse and had some off the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: field things, and it didn't work out. It looks like
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: he has, if not reinvented himself, kind of retooled himself.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Is that a fair way to describe it? Because he's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: obviously been a contributor.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. We're kind
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: of a weird receiving room. You know, we lost a
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: lot of those key guys from that playoff run team
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: a year ago. Deuce is one of the returning players,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: and he leads us by far as far as receiving goes.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Alexander does. But Fields and Ray and Cook and those guys,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: it's kind of an equal distribution among them. They're all
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: handling it pretty well. Caleb Odom is kind of a
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: hybrid tight end, H-back. And then you've got a couple
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: of other tight ends that are in the mix too.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: But Tate's done a good job. He's... You know, one
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: of those guys that's getting his third stop, so to speak.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: We also took him to Dallas when we had our
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Rebel Road Trip over there. And he got a nice
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: round of applause when we introduced him and all. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: got to meet his family there, too. And, yeah, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: think he is kind of reinventing himself and trying to
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: stay on track the rest of his career.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: What was the key, do you think, in flipping the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: script and being able, because, you know, coaches talk about
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: it and players talk about it too, about shelving it,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: putting behind them, you know, if they have a disappointing
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: loss and being able to move on. It stunned a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: lot of people, especially after the win over LSU to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: have what happened happen. in the swamp there. But Texas
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: discovered that last year and they discovered it last week
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: about having to deal with Florida and all that. But
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to be able to turn it back around to play
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: so well against Vanderbilt and then against Missouri, what was
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the best thing that you noticed about how the team
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: kind of dusted itself off and went back to work?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It's hard to measure, but you don't know how much
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: or what part of it is that just showed up
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: at Florida. My wife and Gene, bless her, Mary said,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: she said, have you looked at the schedule and who
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: we're playing after LSU? I said, yeah, I think it's Florida.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: She said, yes, Florida, on the road where we don't
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: do really well. And win or lose, that's going to
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: be a tough game. And she was 100% right. And
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: they just, they stuffed us and they ran the ball.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And Jaden was fantastic in that game. Hadn't been quite
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: as good since, too. And then they lose a couple
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: of games after that and get the win over Texas.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing is just... crazy but i
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: think what we did was get go back to the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: drawing room and during the two-week period uh pete said
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: that they really increased self-evaluation you know self-evaluation is fan
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: sometimes we don't know but that's an ongoing thing with
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: all our programs especially in our league too but you're
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: looking at your own tendencies making sure you're not throwing
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: something out there on video that that people can say
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: oh when they do this you know the the We
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: can take advantage of it, blah, blah, blah. So there's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of self-scouting going on. And then really got
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: physical during that two-week period. I think we'd come into
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: these camps sometime before season started. Good old days. You
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: had two days and you knocked each other crazy. And
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: so you were up to speed physically. But the fear
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: of getting players hurt and that kind of thing, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: just don't know how physical we are. We did have
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: some physical practice. and periods before the season started. But
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: we really got down and dirty during that two-week period,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: especially the first week, and made sure we were getting
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: people on the ground defensively. And we've just played so
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: much better defensively the last two games.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: David, this isn't the right phraseology, but I'll ask it anyway.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: How weird is this league? I mean, I know L
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: tough and a grind and all this, but to see
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: some of the things that have happened, you know, from
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: what Kentucky has done and then LSU up and down
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and then Texas starts four and oh, and they're number
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: one and now they've dropped two in a row and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma looked great, and then they fall back, and then
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Auburn winning at Georgia, and then Alabama losing at Tennessee.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: What does it say about this league other than the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: fact that it's a tough league to be in?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I know you and the Longhorns are a recent arrival,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: so to speak. But for someone who's been associated with
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: it for like 40 years, this is one of the
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: craziest years ever. And I think it's because everybody has
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: got 25 million plus rosters. Everybody's got really good players.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: And if they show up and they play well and
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: you're a little bit off, you can get beat. I
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: just think top to bottom, there's that potential there. Some
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: have got better depth than others. I also think that
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the portal has affected maybe some blue blood depth, if
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: you will. I mean, Alabama used to go four deep.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And if somebody got hurt, just plugged another one in
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: and you ran out of gas late in the game.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's happening as much either. And believe me,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I'm just guessing. I really am. Because it's just been
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: a crazy year of how we're kind of beating each
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: other up. And you hope, Craig, by the time you
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: get to the end, that the committee will look at
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: all And if there's a handful of nine and threes
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: that they'll say, hey, you know, they're not a three.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: But so that's going to be the mystery down the road.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: But we sure are beating each other up. And you
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: just don't know. It makes it very exciting from weekend
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: to weekend to see what's going to happen.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. He's David Kellum, play by play
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: voice of the Ole Miss Rebels. D.K., are you bringing Ms.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Mary with you?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Ms. Berry's not making this trip. We came to Texas
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: for baseball. She came with me on that one. Came
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: to football last time we'd been to basketball. So she's
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: taking a break this weekend and going with the best
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: friend of hers to the lake. So she's punting me
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: going up to Pickwick to the lake this weekend. But
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: we are bringing a good crew, and we're looking forward
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to it. We're going to stay out in Round Rock.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Team's going to be at Round Rock and see what
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: we can do with Texas. I really wish you'd won
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: last weekend so you wouldn't be backs against the wall.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But oh well, it is what it is, right?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: We've learned that that sometimes matters and sometimes doesn't. So
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll see how that does. Exactly right. Hey, DK,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: thanks for the time. I appreciate it. Look forward to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: seeing you this weekend.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: That's David Kellum, play-by-play voice of the Ole Miss Rebels.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Up next, we bring Inconceivable here on Sports Radio AM
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: 13 Under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app. Second hour
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of the program here on Sports Radio AM 13 Under
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the Zone. Craig Way with you alongside the producer, Jay Kerman.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us. We're with you up
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: until 5 o'clock. Bucky and BK come along at 5.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: A reminder that the Texas women's basketball team has an
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: orange-white exhibition tonight that's free. Parking's free as well there
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: if you want to go out and see that. That's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: at 6 o'clock this evening. We're going to hear from
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Vic Schaefer. And by the way, Vic is going to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: be on tomorrow morning with the morning kickoff. So he'll
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: be on with Mike Hardball-Harge and also Mark Henry. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he'll kind of recap that and look ahead to what's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: going to happen on Sunday, the exhibition against defending national
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: champion UCLA in Cedar Park. And they come off that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: exhibition loss at UConn on Monday night. We'll hear from
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: him in a moment. Also going to hear from men's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: head coach Sean Miller. They got a pretty high-profile exhibition
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of their own. coming up on Sunday morning, 11 a.m.,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden in New York, taking on the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: New York, and not taking on the New York Knicks.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: The New York Knicks might want to take on, after
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: losing their opener, hanging the banner, and then LeBron and company,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the Sixers beating him. I tip my hat to Mike Hardball-Hard.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: He said, you know what happens? When you hang the banner,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you get worked. It was only a six-point game, but
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: they still got worked.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Well, and look, you saw right away the difference that
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: LeBron James can make. I thought his defense was good
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: in that game last night, especially late down the stretch. And, yeah,
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: of course it's a motivating factor for LeBron James. There's
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: no secret. He's in Philadelphia to try and win a ring,
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: to try and add a banner to the end of
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: his career here. And there's nothing that's a greater motivation
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: than seeing one go up in your rival's gym before tip-off.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: It's a good little cushion here to watch some NBA
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: because I know we've had football. There is at least
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: one football game every day for, what, 53 days or
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. And there's one tonight, I think. as well.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: There were, I think, two last night. And then there's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: one tonight, a college game. Who's playing tonight? This is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: usually the night of Conference USA. They're big on Wednesdays.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Like Sam Houston plays a lot of Wednesday games. So
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if they were playing, but it's usually.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Bingo.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: New Mexico State pays a visit to Bauer Stadium in Huntsville.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go. Sam Houston, your home for
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night football. So anyway, that one's going on tonight.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: But anyway, the basketball, since World Series doesn't start until Friday...
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Gene Watson, our MLB insider, will join us tomorrow to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: preview the World Series and to talk about the impending
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: dark clouds of the offseason. So we'll visit with him
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: about all that. With regard to college football, a question
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on the text line from The Savant on X, our
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: man CB. He says, what do you remember about Lincoln
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: 20 years ago today in the snow? Was that the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: first time Texas had played in the snow? I don't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: think so, CB. I'm trying to remember. I know they
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: played in the snow in some games in the past,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: games that preceded my time being on the broadcast. But
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: there were some other games that had snow falling. And
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that was a weird day, weather-wise anyway, because it offered
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a mixture of There was some sunshine. There was some drizzle.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: There was some sleet. There was some snow. That's what
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I remember about it. It was all sorts of things.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I also remember late in the game, Nebraska had a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: chance to put it away and fumbled, and Aaron Ross
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: recovered a fumble for Texas, and they set it up
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: for the Longhorns to try a game-winning field goal. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: We had been told before the game that the Longhorns
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: regular kicker had like a groin strain or something and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to go. And I'm always grateful to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: John Bianca for doing this. He came into Booth and
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: told us, to a tip of the hat, he said,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: we got a walk-on guy at an Anderson High named
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bailey. And if we need a field goal thing,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: he'd be the one.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I said, okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: So they were covering, and here they are setting up
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: for the game-winning field goal. And I had no end
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: of people telling me that even though John, who always
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: does a great job, goes in and lets all the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: television people know what's going on, even though he went
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in and told the ABC broadcast crew before the game
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that we have a backup place kicker that Brent Musburger
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: forgot about, I'd said, all right, now on for the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: game winning field goal try. And it was the other
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: guy who was Injured.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Made him sound like a yacht rock musician there.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You ever hear Musburger doing that kind of thing? You're
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: looking live. So anyway, Ryan Bailey knocked it through. Anderson
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: High School legend that he became and Texas legend. Game-winning
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: field goal to beat Nebraska.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I did some quick research on snow matchups here.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. 1993. Oh, my goodness. How could I forget that? Wow, yeah. CB,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you should remember that. 93 against A & M. It's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night. And the Loghorns were 5-4-1 going into the game.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And Texas A & M, I think, was 10-1. And yet,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: they were either 10-1... No, no, no.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: 9-1.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Because they were playing 11-game regular season schedule. I think
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the Aggies were either 9-1 or 8-2. And the Loghorns
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: were 5-4-1. And yet.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Whoever won that game was going to win the Southwest
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Conference title and go to the Cotton Bowl. And in
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Texas is down 15-9, pretty late in
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the game. And there's a, Shea Marins, I believe it was,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: threw an interception in the end zone. And then the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Aggies tacked on a real late field goal. They won 18-9.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Dennis Allen picked them off.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yep. And so the Aggies won to do that. But yes,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: there was snow and ice everywhere. And I was living
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: in the Metroplex and commuting for all the games. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I had to drive back to Dallas. And I like
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: to tell people that late at night that I skidded
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: my way around the traffic circle in Mahea on the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: way on the drive back up. You'll also remember this
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan. That was the day
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: when they played the Miami Dolphins at Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys blocked what was going to be a
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: game-winning field goal try, except the ball went forward, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Leon Lett went over and tried to pick it up
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and slid. The ball got away from him. Dolphins recover.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And on the next play, they kick a walk-off field goal.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Surely that's the only Butterfingers moment for Leon Led in
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: his career. Yeah, it was the second one in nine
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: months going back to that Super Bowl. It did not
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: hurt the Cowboys. They went on and won the Super
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Bowl anyway that year. But that was it. He just
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: went up to it. And that's why the word is,
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: if it goes forward, you know, don't touch it. Whatever
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: you do, do not touch the ball.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That happened in the Bastrop game.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, it did?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, you don't want to do that. But that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: was that day. And it was. There was quite a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: bit of snow. They cleared it off for the game,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: but it was really, really cold. 1982 Sun Bowl.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: They played North Carolina in the Sun Bowl in 1982. Now,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I was a student in North Texas at the time.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't have any affiliation with Texas. But I remember
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: watching that game on Christmas Day. The long-run quarterback was
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Todd Dodge. Of course, went on winning the state championships
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: at Salt Lake Carroll and then Westlake and now at
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Lovejoy High. Todd was the quarterback, and I've asked him
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of times about that game and how miserable
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: it was that day. And North Carolina won that game,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I think, 26-10 or something like that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: And Danny Davis reported it's the only time that any
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: of UT's athletic teams have ever played on Christmas.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: At least as of Danny Davis' story about it a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: couple years ago.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So there it is. Yeah, that was in the Sun
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Bowl on Christmas. So there's a couple of your thoughts
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: on that. Okay, coming up, we're going to talk some
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: more football. Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You'll join us next when we continue on Sports Radio
• 36:19
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• 36:22
  Speaker 8: Oh, give me.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: The beat, boys, and free my soul.
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: I want to get lost in your rock.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Just all kind of drifting away or trying to drift
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: back into it here on Yacht Rock Wednesday here on
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: 1300 The Zone and the great Dobie Gray there. You know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: when we play at the end of the show every day,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: we play that instrumental version from the Ramsey Lewis Trio.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of the in crowd. But if you were to hear
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Dobie Gray's vocal of that going all the way back
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to 1965, if you heard it, you probably would not
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: equate that with what we were just hitting you with
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: there with Drift Away. And then, and I like the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: fact that Dobie was included on the on the Uncle
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Cracker edition, on the bridge of it anyway.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Only thing saving that version of it, if you ask me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. You know what saves this segment
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: from time to time is getting to visit with the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Greg Tepper joins
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: us right now. And, Tepp, we'll get back into the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: specifics later. uh here in a few minutes because i
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: want to go over to college but before i go
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to college uh is this a cataclysmic week for high
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: school football across the state when you look at some
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: of the matchups oh wait i can't hear you guys
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: hold on i got you real well um having some
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: trouble hearing you guys and i couldn't hear you just
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in jake give me one second all right all right
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: so you're trying to pull that in and and and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: uh seeing if he can pull that back in. So we'll,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: he'll try to do that. Um, in the meantime, while
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: we try to do that, I did want to bring
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you the comments, uh, from, uh, Sean Miller. So let's,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: let's do this about them getting ready for this exhibition
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: game on Sunday while we get, uh, TEP reestablished here.
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: As you guys, I think are aware of we've, we've
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: had two close scrimmages and just, uh, out of the
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: spirit of, of, uh, following what we're allowed to talk about. Um,
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: I won't get into the score of either game as
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: much as just I can talk about how I feel
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: about our team. Now, we've played two teams, both Arizona State,
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: which we did in Moody, and then recently at SMU.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: Those are the two closed scrimmages. Moving forward on Sunday, obviously,
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: that's open to the public. That's in Madison Square Garden,
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: playing against a great program in St.
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: John's.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: That'll be a great, great test for us. But a
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: couple things. I think we're still on a really good track.
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: I've been very positive just in terms of, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: my overall feelings about the team that we have, the
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: group that we have. I believe that we're deeper, more
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: talented across the board. And our guys just they've really
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: done an amazing job of just. having a process working
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: hard themselves trying to listen trying to learn trying to
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: grow and I really believe we've made a lot of
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: progress with them in five months the thing that really
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: stands out for me early on is you know In
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: my mind, this is a good thing. We're nowhere near
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: where we one day can be with this team. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: I don't mean beyond this year. I'm talking about this year.
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: It's just when you have one player, Modis, who played
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: on our team a year ago, meaning real minutes, big role. Obviously,
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: he was a huge factor in a year ago. You
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: can't really name two. They're just one. And so as
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: we start to play against other teams, you feel that
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: because this is like the first bus ride we took
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: together It's the first time that we've been on the
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: same bench together. It's the first time we're going through
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: all these things together for the first time. And although
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: I think we have a really good group, there's nothing
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: that can make up for experience. So I think every
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: week that we're together, even the fact we've already played
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: two other teams, it's much more beneficial and helpful for
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: us today than it would have been two weeks ago.
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: You can only practice and play against yourself so much.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: So I'm really looking forward to the trip to New
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: York City. I'm looking forward to that experience. It will
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: not be easy, but I believe that's the next test
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: that we need as we now get ready to open up.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, and again, that exhibition game is Sunday morning at
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: 11 o'clock against St. John's at Madison Square Garden. Quite
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the exhibition game, just as it will be for the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Texas women against the defending national champion, UCLA, at the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: HEB Center in Cedar Park Sunday afternoon at 1. Okay.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Bugs corrected. Tepper is back with us now. And I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: started to ask you a cataclysmic statement about high school football.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And we'll get to that in a moment. But let
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: me start off with, well... To Longhorn fans, it's been
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: a cataclysmic fortnight. But with regard to the rest of that,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: with the Dave Campbell's Texas football power poll, Texas tag
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: number one, Houston number two, SMU number three in that poll.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And what a big game, Houston-Utah, to draw ESPN's college
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: game day out there.
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah, how about that? I mean, you know, in the
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: state of Texas, we obviously talk about the big flagship
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: programs of Texas and Texas A & M, you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: add in maybe Texas Tech there. But the rise of Houston,
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: you know, I know you and I have been talking
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: about it since the offseason about how, you know, what
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: Willie Fritz is doing there at Houston is.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: is really special and it might be flying under the radar.
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: You know, I know that there was some frustration a
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: couple of weeks ago when, when, you know, a nationally
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: ranked Houston team, you know, played in front of a
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: relatively small crowd there at their stadium.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, people got started to.
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: Not pay attention to what this team looks like because
• 42:23
  Speaker 10: they have been absolutely exceptional. And I'll tell you, The
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: Conor Wegman story is a really remarkable one. We put
• 42:31
  Speaker 10: him on the cover of our magazine back in 2024,
• 42:33
  Speaker 10: famously with Quinn Ewers. with kind of the renewal of
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: the A & M and Texas rivalry. Well, your mileage
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: may vary.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I know Texas fans have their feelings.
• 42:47
  Speaker 10: About Quinn Ewers, and A & M fans certainly have
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: their feelings about Conor Wegman. But for Wegman to land
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: on his feet in the way that he has there
• 42:55
  Speaker 10: at Houston and really blossom into the guy that we
• 42:58
  Speaker 10: thought he could be, He's really impressive. I mean, we've
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: seen this since he was at Bridgeland, kind of.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Tearing it up there in Cyprus.
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: And now he's turned into a real certified, you know,
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: field general out there for the Cougs. And he's got
• 43:11
  Speaker 10: a great opportunity to have a big showcase match up there,
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: you know, in in Salt Lake City against a really
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: good Utah team, an opportunity to make some noise. And
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: I think when you're talking about what this team has
• 43:23
  Speaker 10: looked like and what Willie Fritz has built.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: There, you know, it's only the beginning.
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: I mean, you remember they brought in the number one
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: quarterback in the state last year in Keyshawn Henderson.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: He's waiting in the wings.
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: There's something building there in the third ward.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I think that.
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: That's one of the, it's probably an opportunity, I think,
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: this week for a lot of people who may not
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: have necessarily know what's been going on at Houston to
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: get a look at what is a really darn good
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: ball club.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: You know, what's interesting is they have this huge test
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: at Utah on Saturday, and then they have an open
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: date to go trick-or-treating on Halloween. And then after that,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's very manageable for them. They have Cincinnati
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: at home, maybe a tricky trip to Boulder to play
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Colorado on that Friday night there. It's never a guarantee
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: we go to Morgantown, but they got to go there.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And then they finished with Baylor. I mean, there's a real...
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: increase their opportunity two games come to mind for me
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: tip on the collegiate level in the state right now
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: other than obviously that what I have to deal with
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: on a week-by-week basis with Texas but the the Houston
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: at Utah game and and then SMU has Notre Dame
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: late in the season we're already hearing conversation because the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: way that Notre Dame BYU game ended that if Notre
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Dame loses to Miami And then the SMU game becomes
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a must win for them or they're probably not getting
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: in the playoff. And SMU, on the other hand, can
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: continue to upgrade its profile by continuing to win leading
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: up to that game in South Bend in late November.
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think right now when you take a look
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: at what SMU's got in front of them, they play
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: at home against Cal, they're at Syracuse, and they're home
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: against Virginia Tech. You would think that SMU should be
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: able to take care of business against those three. And
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: then you're going to have a really dynamic and really
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: interesting kind of twofer for them when they take welcome
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: in Wake Forest and they go to Notre Dame. And,
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: you know, look, at that point, you know, Wake Forest,
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: by the way, I don't know if people know this,
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: 17th ranked team in the country, that would be back-to-back
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: top 20 wins, assuming those teams win.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: To kind of stay in that kind.
• 45:36
  Speaker 10: Of echelon, which I think, you know, for all we
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: kind of, there's the wailing and gnashing of teeth earlier
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: this season when SMU, you know, dropped a game, quite frankly,
• 45:47
  Speaker 10: that I don't think they should have when they played
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: poorly at Louisville, right? Well, they can win it all
• 45:52
  Speaker 10: back and everything's still right there in front of them.
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: You can make the argument that they still control their destiny. Certainly,
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: you know, if they were to continue to roll and
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: play in the ACC championship game, but even then, as
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: an at-large, you know, that would be a team that,
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: you know, As a music team, I think early in
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: the year, we may have been ready to ride off,
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: but because of the way that the schedule is broken
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: and with those two big high-profile games late in the season,
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: that can give them an opportunity to vault back into
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: that national conversation. Those are two of the monster games
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: left on the schedule to kind of determine what the
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: Texas representation may.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Look like in the college football playoff.
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: Right now, it doesn't look like A & M is
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: going to be participating. Tech, obviously, looking very good there
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: in the Big 12. You know, Texas, their season is teetering,
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: as I know you guys have been talking a lot about.
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: But two programs that, you know, here in Houston and SMU,
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: I think have an opportunity to really crash the party.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Talking football in the Lone Star State with Greg Tepper, Editor-in-Chief,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Dave Campbell's Texas Football here on AM 13 Under the Zone.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Let's jump to high school and we'll start off with,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it happened yesterday. The Texas High School Football Hall of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Fame announced its class for 2027. And for folks who
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: don't know the way this works is they induct a
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: player from each decade. It starts from 1969 and before.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: So that would also include folks even prior to the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: decade of the 60s. That enshrining will be Joe Barnes
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: from Reagan County. Then in the 70s, Doug Dawson from
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Houston Memorial and former Texas Longhorn. Richmond Webb. from Roosevelt
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: High in Dallas and Texas A & M for the 80s.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Casey Hampton, a warm spot in many Longhorn fans' hearts
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: from Galveston Ball. Chase Daniel from South Lake Carroll, certainly
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: one of the most decorated recruits coming out of high school,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: played at your alma mater, Missouri, and then had a
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: career as a backup in the NFL, now working college telecast.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield will go in. Of course, he was the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: final quarterback in the drive for five for Lake Travis.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: And then you have two coaches. uh john outlaw uh
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the late john outlaw from lufkin and johnny tucson from
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: waco high both definitely deserving and then the dave campbell's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: texas um football uh you might say the the major
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: domo of that your balls adam hockfelder getting in on
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the dave campbell contributor to the game induction.
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: How about that Yeah, you know, the Hall of Fame
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: has a special place around here at Dave Campbell's Texas football.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: You know, Dave Campbell was really instrumental in, I don't
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: want to overstate it, but in a lot of ways,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: he kind.
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: Of saved the Hall of Fame and kind of floundering
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: here in the DFW Metropolitan. really kind of rallied the
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: troops to move it to Waco, to give it the
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: kind of prominence that needs it. And that's the Texas
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: Sports Hall of Fame, not just the Texas High School
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: Football Hall of Fame, although that's obviously a subsidiary of
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: the Texas Sports Hall of Fame.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: And so, you know, obviously that, you know.
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: The Dave Campbell Contributing to the Game Award is how you, Mr. Way,
• 48:51
  Speaker 10: are in the Hall of Fame there in Waco. And then,
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: you know, so I know that means a lot for
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: Adam to be able to go in there.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: And what is the star-studded class, right? You know, you
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: mentioned Casey Hampton.
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: Austin was an absolute juggernaut in Galveston, just like a
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: force of nature in Galveston.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And it's a long time coming, I think, for him
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: to get in.
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: You know, Chase Daniel, a guy who, of course, was,
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: you know, one of those most decorated quarterbacks there in
• 49:22
  Speaker 10: those early 2000 South Lake Carroll teams under Todd Dodge.
• 49:27
  Speaker 10: And then, you know, obviously went off and had a
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: terrific college career. You know, Peter Mayfield, still cooking, still
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: doing what he's doing there. And obviously part of that
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: drive for five there at Lake Travis. I would draw
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: special attention to the two coaches. because you kind of
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: hit the nail on the head, I think John Outlaw
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: and Johnny Tusa, this is long overdue for these two guys,
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: you want to talk about guys who are legends in
• 49:49
  Speaker 10: their towns, you know, Johnny Tusa there in Waco is
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: as respected a high school football coach as you may
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: ever see, and then Don Outlaw out there in Lufkin
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: is the guy, is the name, you You know, everyone's
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: trying to be John Howell. Those are the big shoes
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: to fill.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: So it's a special class.
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: You know, I think the Hall of Fame did a
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: fantastic job of bringing in an outstanding class worthy of
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: the Hall of Fame. And the fact that our president
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: gets to have a small part in it, I think, is.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Pretty special for him.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and he's been very instrumental in how this
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: game is going. grown by leaps and bounds in terms
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: of what's done online, what you and the crew do,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: what TexasFootball.com and what he's done also with the crew
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: in getting all those live telecasts. There's two things that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: come to mind with the two coaches going in. Johnny Tusa,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: just to let folks know how important he is. We
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: had Derek Johnson on Sark's radio show a few weeks back.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: And DJ, of course, played for Coach Toose at Waco High.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: And DJ was an All-American at Texas. He was an
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: All-Pro with the Chiefs. And he was being inducted into
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs Ring of Honor. He insisted on flying Coach
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Toose and his wife. up to Kansas City to be there.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: That's how much he said, I never would have gotten
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to the things, I never would have accomplished what I
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: did at Texas, and I certainly wouldn't have accomplished what
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I did at the Chiefs without Coach Tusa. So that
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: tells you one thing about what Johnny Tusa's done. And
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: then John Outlaw, I always like to tell the story,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you know, John Outlaw was really good at a lot
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: of places, including Sherman, and then he gets to Lufkin.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And I'll always remember this, because on opening night of
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: either his first or second season, I think it was
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: his first season, they shocked John Tyler, who was, I think,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: number one in the state on that Friday night. And
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: this was before you were on board with us with
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the scoreboard live show. So we tried to get him
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to go on live with us like you and I
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: have done so many times in the years with a
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: winning coach. And we're trying to get him on by phone.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: And somebody called him and he answered the phone at
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: his house. He couldn't get him at the field house.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: It was getting kind of late. And they got him
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: at home and they said, hey, we'd like for you
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to come on High School Scoreboard Live with us. And
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm going to bed. I'm not doing it.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: And they said, well, Craig Wade told us to call
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: you that he'd really like to have you. He goes,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: tell Craig I love him. I'm going to bed. Good night.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: And I'll always remember that about John. He was that
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: kind of guy. Great dude off of that. Okay. Now.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the game log. Before we have the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: technical snafu, I was going to ask you how cataclysmic
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: a week this could be with some of the selections
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: on this. Good piece for folks online. If you're not
• 52:32
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• 52:38
  Speaker 1: read the piece that Matt Stepp did on Gerald and Stephenville.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: We'll find out how for real Gerald is. I think
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the computer likes Stephenville by 13. But I want to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: ask you about another game. Now, this is not included
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: in the three games where you have to pick one.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I could have been really mean and done this, but
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I like you too much. We're too close, and it
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: would not have been fair for you to do this.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: But I want you to tell me what you know
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: about Dallas Life Oak Cliff. They're 7-0. They're playing Pilot Point,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: who's good, but the computer likes Life Oak Cliff by
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: four points, I think. And the reason why I ask
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: you this is because you tell me if you can remember,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I cannot remember in football, I know obviously in basketball,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: but in football, I cannot remember a situation where a
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: charter school was ranked as high as Dallas Life Oak
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Cliff is in 3A Division I.
• 53:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, look, they're a serious team. You know, Life Oak
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: Cliff is one of those teams that is absolutely star-studded.
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: They have a junior quarterback, Cameron Phillips, who is lighting
• 53:49
  Speaker 10: it up right now. He has got 42 total touchdowns
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: on the season, already a 2,000-yard passer.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: And here's the other thing, though.
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: The other thing about it, and probably where they're most notable,
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: is that they had a game earlier this season which
• 54:05
  Speaker 10: made some headlines about where they played at Bonham. And
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: Bonham's a proud program. That was, I think, trying to
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: go out there and kind of get some reps in.
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: And the game got out of hand. They scored 105 points.
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: I haven't had a 100-point game in a UIL game in, boy,
• 54:24
  Speaker 10: since the.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: 30s, since the 40s maybe.
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: It's been a long time. There's just kind of that
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: understanding that you don't get over there. From what I understand,
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: the coaches were, I think there was an audible late
• 54:34
  Speaker 10: and the coaches weren't too pleased with it. And anyway,
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: I don't, I don't want to point fingers here, but
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: there's that. That's kind of one of the things that
• 54:41
  Speaker 10: kind of draws your eyes to them. One of the
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: things that, that when I look at this, uh, them.
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: But the thing that I've, you know, in working with
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: Jerry Forrest, outstanding computer program for a long time, I
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: can tell you that one of the things the computer
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: likes is dominance. Well, there have been few teams as
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: dominant in the state as them. They have an average
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: margin of victory of 39 points in their games. I
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: do think that when they play Pilot Point, we'll find
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: out more about in their next three games than we
• 55:13
  Speaker 10: have in their previous seven games combined. Because Right now,
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: their best.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Win of the year is probably over Dallas Christian.
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: That was also their closest game of the year. And hey,
• 55:21
  Speaker 10: don't apologize for beating Mike Wheeler, who is one of
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: the most winningest coaches in Texas high school football history there.
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: But the next three games are Pilot Point, Gunner, and Pottsboro.
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: Those will be, in my estimation, the three best teams.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: That they have played.
• 55:34
  Speaker 10: If they come out, if they finish 10-0, I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: we got to start having a really serious conversation about
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: Welton Johnson's ball club. I think right now I'm still
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: in wait and see mode. And if they go out
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: there and they beat, if they beat, you know, I'll
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: point this week, especially on the road, then we're going
• 55:50
  Speaker 10: to start having a really interesting conversation about how deep
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: the Lions can go there and create a mission one.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Now to the meanest thing we do every week. I
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: give you three games. You pick one to transport it.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, which is your game this week?
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: We have got Duncanville and Waxahachie.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, good. All right, so we're recusing you from
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: that game then. And I was really torn between going
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: with that game or C.E. King and North Shore. So
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: you've made the decision for me. All right, C.E. King
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and North Shore is one of the games. I'm not
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: even putting Westlake Lake Travis on there for you because
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: this roster is so dynamic this weekend. The other two
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: games I'm going to give you, are, uh, Bremond at
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Burton and at the one 81 level, Hermley at defending
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: state champion, Jaden.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: I thought you were going to do that. I thought
• 56:46
  Speaker 10: I was like, man, he's going to throw like a
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: six man game. Cause this is really, it's by the way,
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: it's a.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Really nice week in one day, like a really fun week.
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: Um, and so look, Burton, I think Burton and Bremond
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: is really flying under the radar. I'm, I'm a big
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: fan of this Bremond team. Um, what's, able to do,
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: you know, off to a fantastic start there.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Anytime they've got a coach's kid at.
• 57:07
  Speaker 10: The quarterback spot, I'm going to be in and they've
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: got Sam Kazowski running the show there.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: He has been electrifying.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: For them as the junior.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: They run the ball.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: They got a running back named Tank Scott. I mean,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: that's just fantastic um jayden.
• 57:20
  Speaker 10: And hermley is going to be a lot of fun
• 57:21
  Speaker 10: because i think we're going to you know jane is
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: kind of a known commodity even moving up to 1a
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: division one they have that that kind of wild last
• 57:29
  Speaker 10: play loss to newcastle a couple weeks ago but they
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: are six and one and very good but hermley is
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: a team i've got my eye on because this is
• 57:36
  Speaker 10: the real test for them they're undefeated seven 7-0, but
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: I do think that this is going.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: To be the toughest game of.
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: The year on the road.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: We will learn a lot about the Cardinals. My pick
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: has got to be North Shore, C.E. King, though.
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: This is, in my estimation, the best game, the game
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: of the year at Houston so far.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: The defending 6A.
• 57:53
  Speaker 10: Division I state champs, They're in North Shore, the reigning
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: 6A Division II state runner-up in C.E. King, which has
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: the fastest man in Texas in Dylan Mitchell at the controls.
• 58:03
  Speaker 10: And then North Shore has gotten such a dynamic, electrifying
• 58:07
  Speaker 10: defense led by Deshaun Royal. And this is an east
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: side rivalry. These two programs are separated by about seven miles.
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: They don't like each other. And in fact, Aubrey Johnson,
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: the wide receiver for C.E.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: King, last year you may know him as the offensive
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: MVP of the state championship. championship game for North Shore last.
• 58:26
  Speaker 10: Year so there's some there's.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Some uh you know some there are.
• 58:32
  Speaker 10: Gonna be some some chippiness in this game I think
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: there's gonna be a a highly high octane ball game
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: and I think it's gonna be a whale of a
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: game that'll tell us a lot about how region three ends.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Up shaking out are you saying that these teams will
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: each be in their feelings a little bit on Friday
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: huh It will be.
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: An emotional contest. It will be up to these two
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: outstanding coaching staff to wrangle those emotions.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Which of these two teams has the better chance of
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: pulling off a surprise? Gerald at home against number one
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and defending state champ stevenville or pleasant grove having to
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: go to carthage.
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: Uh you know it's interesting both of them i think
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: are really on the table you know pleasant grove they
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: had that one loss to gilmer and the concern that
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: i have for them is that they gave up 300
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: yards rushing to gilmer well you know this is not
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: a carthage team that runs the ball as especially well.
• 59:23
  Speaker 10: They throw the ball really well, Jacob Dixon, J.D. Edwards,
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: but that kind of plays into the hands of Pleasant Grove,
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: so if you believe that styles make fights, that's one thing,
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: although going to Penelope County and getting a win is
• 59:35
  Speaker 10: probably a lot to ask. One thing I am interested in,
• 59:38
  Speaker 10: this Gerald Stephenville game, I think, is a live ball.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: I think Gerald's for real.
• 59:44
  Speaker 10: Alan Hare is a guy who has been around the block.
• 59:49
  Speaker 10: He knows how to coach these guys up, and he
• 59:51
  Speaker 10: has got them cooking right now. Running the ball exceptionally well.
• 59:56
  Speaker 10: Alan Hare is a guy who you don't want to
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: see on the other side. And look, when they get
• 59:59
  Speaker 10: the slot tee going, Stephenville doesn't see a lot of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: the slot tee. That is primarily a South Texas thing.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 10: You know, and Alan Hare has brought that to Gerald,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 10: and they are cruising with it right now. A real
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: test for the defense. I think this is a live
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: ball there at Cougar Stadium in Gerald that it would
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: not be surprised if this game.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Is tight in the fourth quarter.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I'm with you there. He's Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief of Dave
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Have fun with that Waxhatchee-Dunkerville thing,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: and we'll do it again next week.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 10: All right, looking forward to it, pal.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: All right. That's Greg Tepper from Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I'm with him on this. I think Coach Hare is
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: an outstanding coach in the way they run the slot
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: tee at Gerald. We'll see if they can hang with Stephenville.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: It's a tall task, no doubt about it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: We have more coming up when we continue on Sports
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• 1:00:51
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• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: here on 1300 The Zone. Let's hear from a couple
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of Longhorns. Justin Cryer, the Longhorn linebacker, was asked, when
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: talking about the things they can do to be better,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: what can they do that he is seeing where they
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: can be better?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 11: For the most part, I think that the want to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: is there for us. I just think that execution-wise... For
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 11: the most part, we were solid, but we just had
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: to tackle better.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: We missed way too many tackles that game.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 11: And what disappointed for me, this is like a personal thing,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: is that when I watched the game defensively, when I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: watched us play, I'm going to feel that we were there.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: We're out there having fun.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 11: And that second half, I just kind of felt that
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 11: we were a little flat energy-wise.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like we were.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: like, you know what I mean, when you watch the defense,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 11: I mean, like, this Texas defense is, like, you know
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: what I mean, and regardless of if, and I'm not
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: taking anything away from Colin, right, but we're also losing
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: the field, right, Colin got, went down, but that doesn't mean, like, our,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 11: our spark, our energy changes, right, we're, I'm saying, we,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 11: we're still productive, we're still, we're still a good unit,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: so I just feel like that was something that I, um,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 11: had to talk with the guys about today, was that, like, man, like, that,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 11: that third and fourth quarter, like, I, I feel like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: we were, like, out there having fun and out there
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: kind of flying around a little bit. Again, I don't
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: think our effort wasn't there. I thought we had played
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: with good effort. I thought we executed our calls for
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: the most part. Obviously, some tweaks here and there, but
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: I want to feel that energy and that spark that
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: we've had the first five weeks of the season.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, the big question surrounding the defense is the health
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: and the status of Colin Simmons. The first of the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: SEC student-athlete availability reports comes out this evening, just past
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: 7 o'clock, and that's where we'll probably learn, you know,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: where Colin Simmons is, and with that high ankle sprain,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: there's a chance he may be out for a bit.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: So here O'Connor was asked, what is the mindset of
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: this defense if Simmons is down for a bit?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 12: It's next man up mentality, you know. It's cruel in
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 12: the sport, but, you know, one person goes down, the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 12: next person got to step up. And we all know that,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 12: you know, every play comes with the risk, you know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 12: of injury or whatever. But, you know, you just got to,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 12: you know, move on forward. It's next man up.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And that next man could be Richard Wesley, the freshman
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: who has played well at times. So he's asked, what
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: does he like about Wesley?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Richie, he came in ready to play. Like, he's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 12: not one of those guys that, you know, wants to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 12: wait around. He came in and attacked it. I think
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 12: you see it, like, you know, the moment he stepped
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 12: on campus, he was locked in. He's really locked in on,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 12: you know, learning the playbook. That's something young guys usually
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 12: struggle with the most, and he's totally dialed. I think physically,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 12: he's ahead of his time. You know, he's still young.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 12: but physically he's so developed. I think he can go
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 12: out there and really make an impact as well.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: And again, we'll find out more tonight when the first
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: of those SEC student athlete availability reports are released. We'll
• 1:03:48
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: hear a little more from Vic Schaefer and from Sean
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Miller coming up. And then we brought you some sound
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: earlier in the program, uh, on the eve of two
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: very high profile exhibition games that, that by the way,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the Texas women do have an orange white game tonight,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: scrimmage tonight at Moody center. And, uh, So you'll get
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: a chance to get a look at them at home
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: for the first time. Of course, they have the Monday
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: night exhibition game at UConn, but they will be at
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: home tonight for an orange-white that starts at 6. And then,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: of course, on Sunday, in the area, not at Moody,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: but in the area, and in chance for you, I'm
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: not even talking about the season ticket holders because they
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: show up anyway. They're a fabulous fan support. But you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: folks up in Wilco have a chance to see them
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: right in your backyard because they're going to be at
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: the HEB Center in Cedar Park against none other than
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: the defending national champion, UCLA Bruins. So that's Sunday afternoon
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: at 1 o'clock. You'll hear it. right here on 13
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Under the Zone, beginning at 1245, the pregame, and the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: tip-off is at one. The men also play on Sunday,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning at 11 a.m., and they're going to be
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden in New York playing St. John's.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: So we'll hear from Sean Miller more on that coming up.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: We're also going to hear more from Justin Cryer, Longhorns linebacker,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and Hiro Kanu, the defense and defensive lineman as well.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Other college football notes. I know you weren't necessarily calling
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: for this guy to be removed, but you were predicting
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: it was going to happen, and it has happened. Mike
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Loxley has been dismissed. Eight years there in Maryland, including
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of wins over Texas. But He went 39-54
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: with the Terps, but just 10-21 since the start of
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: the 2024 campaign. And they've lost 12 Big Ten games
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: in a row. So, no big surprise there.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: No, and a little bit surprised that they didn't wait
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: a little bit towards the end of the season. The
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: buyout would have come down significantly. So, that is maybe
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: Maryland just looking for that first mover advantage at the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: end of the day. It just wasn't an acceptable... product
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 7: to them on the field this season. You can't lose
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: 12 in a row in any conference. It's very similar,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: I would say. I don't know if folks will remember this,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: but it's very similar to the buyout that Texas did
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: with Charlie Strong when they were hiring Tom Herman. And
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: what I mean by that is Charlie's had a deal
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: where they were paying it all unless he got another job,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: which he did at South Florida, and then it mitigated
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: some of it. In the case of Loxley, they're going
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: to pay it all Regardless of what happens.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the 2014 playoff has something to do
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: with this decision.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. I don't know.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: He was set to earn $ 6. 4 million this year. It's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: a contract that runs through 2028. And he's owed a
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: buyout of $ 9, 750, 000. So there is no offset or mitigation
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: on the deal, which means Maryland will pay all of
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: it even if Loxley lands another job. So Erland was
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: just ready to move on. And they named longtime assistant
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Azhar Abdul-Rahim as the interim head coach. They say they're
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: beginning a national search for Loxley's replacement. Abdul-Rahim is a Washington, D.C.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: native and has strong ties to the area, viewed as
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: a key figure in the building to help retain the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: top talent. Recently promoted defensive coordinator, after Ted Monachino was
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: fired this past Sunday by Loxley. And then Loxley just
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: got fired. So now this guy goes from being assistant
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: to defensive coordinator. Now he's the interim head coach, such as,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: way of things.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah and and such is the the way that you're
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: going to watch that situation unfold maybe he stays on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: next year as a defensive coordinator that's going to be
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: maybe the first choice that both the administration and the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: new head coach makes when they get in the building
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: you also got to retain malik washington it's it's it's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: a talented quarterback yep in college park and you saw
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: the new coaches that have had success this year they've
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: either brought a lot with them or they've retained a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: lot of good players so we'll see how that pans out.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Um Maryland's defense, and like you said, we'll see if
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: they retain him as defensive coordinator. He was not the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. for this defense that has given up 219
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: points in its current five game losing streak um the
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: turps ranked 133rd nationally in points allowed at 33.3 per
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: game and 83rd in yards allowed um They went back
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: to back four and eight the last two years. So anyway.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, those four are the non-conference cream puffs that they
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: scheduled too.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: It hadn't been pretty.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: So anyway, there's the deal for that. Here was something
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: else I was going to get to yesterday. We really
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: didn't have an awful lot of time to do it
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: because we were out at Boulevard Social. And again, you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: heard us talk about yesterday. It was great to be
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: out there. Great people. Linda and I stuck around and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: had that. Big old cheeseburger they have. In fact, we
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: even split it. It was so big. And it was
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: really good. I mean, all the stuff. You know, you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: heard Mark Henry raving about the wings. And the seasoned
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: fries were real good. And all kinds of things. Anyway,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: it's there at 6215 North Lamar. And a good place
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: to be. And by the way, if you're a WWE fan,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: they do watch parties there.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Just something to keep in mind off of that. Okay,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: as I started to say, because we didn't have an
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: awful lot of time to get into this, for those
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: who have certainly complained about the Texas offense and saying
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: that Steve Sarkeesian needs to bring in an offensive coordinator,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: and like I've said all along, no matter how you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: feel about that, that's not going to happen in the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: middle of the season. It just won't. if there's any
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: decision on that, that would come after the season. Same
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: thing with the play calling. Not going to turn that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: over in the middle of the season or exactly at
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: the midway point of the season. The reason why I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: bring this up is because the heat has turned up
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: in Norman, Oklahoma on Ben Arbuckle. You know, the Sooners,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: of course, you know, had the one offensive touchdown and
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: then they had the defensive touchdown and they had the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: blocked punt. against Texas. And then last week, they had
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: one touchdown. It was one and two field goals, or
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: was it a missed two-point try in the loss to Kentucky?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: In any event, they lost 21-13 to Kentucky. So more
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: scrutiny has come up on that. Well, Tuesday is the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: day where Brent Venables has his weekly news conference. And
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: he was asked point blank about Ben Arbuckle and his
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He's in his fourth year. And in his
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: fourth year with John Mateer, going back to Washington State.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: So he's been, according to Venables, his job is not
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: in jeopardy. He's fine. And Arbuckle was made available to
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the media yesterday. And he was talking about Mateer. He
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: said everything that he's done, the player that he is,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: the preparation that he has, we believe that John Mateer
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: gives us the best chance to win. Because in Oklahoma
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: right now, they're doing what some folks in these parts
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: are doing, are calling for the backup quarterback, which is
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: a normal fan reaction and, in some cases, in some places,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: the fashionable thing to do when things aren't going well.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: But Arbuckle says he gives us the best chance to win.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Not Bo Bentley, the freshman. So, anyway, there's that kind
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: of thing. So, So that's going on.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: Still can't run it. I mean, 31 carries, 76 yards,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: two and a half yards per carry, longest run of
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 7: 11 yards.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: So it's a big deal. So anyway, there's a couple
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: of college football headlines. And like I said, coming up
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: here in a few minutes, we're going to hear from
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Brady Quinn on the Fox telecast. It was from a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: segment on Colin Coward's show. And it's all college football.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: His thoughts on Texas football. and Arch Manning, his thoughts
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: on Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State, and the 24-team impending
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: announcement we're expecting here at some point of the doubling
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: of the college football playoff field from 12 teams to 24.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It's a really good segment. That's why I wanted folks
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: who might have missed it when Colin Cowherd had him
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: on just past noon to have a shot to hear
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: it as you're getting in your cars to drive home
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So that's coming up in a few minutes.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Let me go to basketball. Vic Schaefer. getting his team
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: ready for this matchup with UCLA, and asked, you know,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: will we start seeing more of these high-profile exhibition games
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: like the game at UConn and like this one now?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Is that becoming the norm?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: You're going to see it not just in exhibitions. You're
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: going to see it in the schedule, in the non-conference part.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: And it's going to be on neutral floors because, you know,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: this was an NIL opportunity. Next year, when they come
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: back to Austin, it'll be an NIL opportunity. We're playing
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: UCLA in Austin Sunday. That's an NIL opportunity. And then
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: I've got two games in Dickies Arena in Fort Worth
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: that are both NIL opportunities.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: And then I've got the Players' Era. That's NIL opportunity. Now,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: that's a lot.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: And if you knew who was trying to get me
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: to play next year in another event that'll have six.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: Monsters in it, I mean, it's really.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: for me, it is not much fun trying to figure
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: it out, but I got to do it for my kids. Like,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to not do something just because it
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: might be a little harder if it's going to benefit them. So,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: but that's what's on the horizon in women's basketball. There's
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: going to be more and more of these events on
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: neutral floors that benefit these kids for NIL opportunities. And so,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Here's the bad thing. It affects your home non-conference schedule. Yeah,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: I got a great conference schedule at home. We play
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: in the SEC. But for a team that doesn't play
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: the University of's, and now you're taking their opportunity to
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: play a University of in a non-conference game, for me,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: I'm losing six home games. I could potentially lose six
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: home games next year in my non-conference schedule. My fans,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, we just, sold out of season tickets for
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: the first time ever in the history of Texas women's basketball.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Wrap your head around that. So I'm so proud about that.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, if it's not for the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: SEC-ACC challenge, which next year will be on the road,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: my non-conference schedule, probably my fans are going to look
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: at it and go, hmm. And you know what my
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: answer is going to be? You ain't coming to watch
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: who I'm playing. You're coming to watch Texas play. That's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: the answer. You're coming to watch our kids, not who
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: we're playing against. So we'll have plenty of names once
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: we get to January and February. But this is where
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: our game is, y'all. And this is where it's growing to. Hey,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: I told my administration the other day, you want to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: give me the money that I'm going to make in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: those six games next year potentially?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'll stay at home. No problem.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: But I just don't think that's probable. And so this
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: is where we are in our game of women's basketball.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: And so great opportunities to play great name teams, University
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: of's on a neutral floor. But it takes away from
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: your home schedule a little bit in non-conference.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: And then hearing from Sean Miller. They had the whole
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: high-profile exhibition game Sunday morning with 11 a.m. tip-off at
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden against St.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: John's.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: And Sean was asked, How do you balance playing smart
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and physical, given that it is an exhibition, but you
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: want to see what you need to see when you
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: take on a really good St. John's team?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 9: A year ago, Michigan played St. John's in the same game,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 9: maybe on the same date. And I think that Michigan,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: not because they won a national championship, but I think
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: if you spoke to their team, their coaches, which I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: have spoken to them, they got so much out of
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 9: that experience for the reason you're talking about. When you
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 9: play against St. John's, man, it's like going into the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 9: athletic crucible. I mean, you have to have some toughness.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, you have to have the ability to get open.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 9: You have to play through contact. You have to play
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: full court. You have to play through exhaustion. When a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 9: shot goes up, there'll be no team that will try
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: to get second shots more than St.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: John's.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: They are relentless in terms of their effort level. And
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 9: it comes in waves throughout a 40-minute cycle. Being able
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 9: to play in the garden, It was a great experience
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 9: for all of our players. I'm really grateful that we
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: have a chance to give them that opportunity.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: And the trip itself, playing a true road game.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: All of those first-time things, it's how I started off
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: here today, where I wish we'd been through it a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 9: second time, a third time, where five of our seven
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: have played a year ago for our team. That's not
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: our advantage. Our advantage, I think, comes with our talent
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: level and our depth. But this experience is something that
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: you really feel like every time that we do something,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: we have to gain from it. And I believe that
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 9: this experience will really help us in a lot of ways.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: We'll learn a lot about our team as well.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: So, obviously, those are two high-profile games that are just
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: exhibitions to be high-profile. Gives you a chance to kind
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: of measure yourself a little bit and see where you
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: are with things.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Coming up, again, a deep dive into college.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Football.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Brady Quinn from Fox joining Colin Cowher, and we'll have
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: that for you. Coming up next on Sports Radio AM,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: 1300 The Zone and the iHeartRadio app. You know, one
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: thing Longhorn fans do not want to get used to
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: the offense struggling. So hopefully that flips as well. This
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: is getting used to it from Roger Viduras on the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Yacht Rock Wednesday. Let's hear about college football, about Texas,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: about Ohio State, about Notre Dame, Miami, the playoff, all
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Earlier today on The Herd with
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Colin Cowherd, Brady Quinn, former Notre Dame quarterback, seven years
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, was on with... Colin Cowherd, and he
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: talked about a lot of things, including what he saw
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: in some of the crazy stuff that happened over the
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: previous completed college football weekend. Let's start with that because
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: there's so many unbelievable topics in college football. I mean,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I got eight of them here.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: They're all great.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: Maybe the best weekend I've ever seen in college football.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: So my eyes, you played the position, my eyes told
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: me that Tommy Carr was just, hey, listen, I can
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: do the stuff the coaches want.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Me to do.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: It may not have a huge ceiling. Maybe it does.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: That's what my eyes told me. You played the position.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: What did Tommy Carr do that impressed you?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 13: He just operated within the offense right from the jump
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 13: when he got inserted in in the very beginning of
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 13: the first half, or second half, excuse me, of this
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 13: past week's game. I mean, there's a couple things that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 13: really stood out to me. He only threw the football
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 13: eight times in this game in the second half. However,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 13: They started off the second half of them throwing an
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 13: RPO over the middle. Typically, coaches don't want to put,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 13: especially an inexperienced young quarterback in that position, throwing the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 13: football over the middle, because that's where the interceptions comes.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 13: The tips, the overthrows, things.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: Of that nature. If there's a strike to JJ Buchanan,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: then they're off.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 13: And then the next, on the third down, he throws
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 13: a nice little sprint out, completion to Andrew Marci. If
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 13: he just ran upfield, trusted his feet, probably would have
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 13: gotten the first down, didn't. But even a flea flicker
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 13: then later on. So it's an assortment of plays that
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 13: they're basically saying, this young man's capable, even though he
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 13: doesn't have the reps, of doing all these things we're
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 13: asking of him. And then you go look at the 22,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 13: 23-yard scamper he had for a touchdown, and it's like,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 13: oh yeah, he's got that dual threat ability to running
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 13: the football. So it's no surprise that, you know, interjecting
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 13: a different quarterback in there who I think did a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 13: better job with some of the run reads, but also
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 13: the reads in the passing plays helped open up an
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 13: offense for over 220 yards and 21 points in a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 13: comeback victory. Now, it's a different challenge this week versus
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 13: Indiana with as much pressure as they like to bring.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 13: And there was one play in particular where I'm not
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 13: even sure he saw the corner cap, the corner blitz pressure,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 13: but the opposite line, the running back did a good
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 13: job picking it up. He's going to get a heavy
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 13: dose of that versus Indiana. They're typically a team that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 13: doesn't like to bring a lot of pressure, But they
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 13: have the past couple of weeks turning it up. And
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 13: I would imagine they're going to test him often with
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 13: his eyes and what he's seeing out there, given his inexperience.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: Brady Quinn joining us for the radio audience. So, I mean,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: there was an article the other day that said, and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: I like Sark. I feel like I've watched Sark coach
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: for so long. He's never been... He does the big
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: stuff well. Sometimes on the details, he drives me nuts.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: I feel like all SART games kind of look the same.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: They have a great half, a bad half. You know,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: they do some things brilliantly like recruiting and flash. And
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: then some of the other stuff, I'm like, it shouldn't
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: be this hard. But everybody was saying, well, Arch Manning,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: when are we going to get the best Arch Manning?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: When are we going to see this graduation to an
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: X class?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, folks, stuff's hard.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: And maybe this is what he is, that he doesn't
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: see the field brilliantly. He doesn't see it like Brock Purdy.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: Some guys see it.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: Some don't.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: That he's super athletic.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: He's got good traits. He's a big, strong kid. He's
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: got the Manning family. But it is possible that there,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: you know this, there's an it factor. They're seeing the field.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: Maybe he was a little overvalued, dominating a smaller Louisiana
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: high school. Or am I wrong that there is this
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: massive ceiling? He's going to hit it.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Or my take is maybe he's just this is kind.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: Of what he is, which is he doesn't see the
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: field quite as quickly in process. Herbert's got some of
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: this that maybe as he as other guys do.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Is it possible?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 13: Well, look, everyone's going to process at a different rate.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 13: And that comes down to the individual. And that's something
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 13: that we don't quite have the ability to measure yet.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 13: You can kind of tell based on their decision-making and
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 13: on film. But you referenced Brock Purdy. That's a guy
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 13: who played a lot of football during his time at
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 13: Iowa State. And he fell into a position where I
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 13: don't know that he could have fallen to a better team,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 13: a better coach and offensive line than Kyle Shanahan. And
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 13: you mentioned something in asking the question, talking about details.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 13: If there's something that I'm concerned the most about this
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 13: Texas offense, it is the details. It's the fact that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 13: their offensive line plays incredibly inconsistent, not only in pass throw,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 13: but also in one block. I mean, you see them
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 13: turning guys free from time to time. You'd never see
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 13: an offensive line that should be one of those dominant
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 13: college football really highlighted in that way. To me, it
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 13: starts up front with them in the trenches offensively. Then
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 13: you go back to the wide receiver group where there's
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 13: not a ton of separation, which to me doesn't fall
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 13: necessarily always on Wingo and Cam Coleman, two of the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 13: top receivers.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 8: It's somewhat of a scheme, too.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 13: It feels like when you're out there, you don't have
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 13: plays building off of one another, where they're showing you
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 13: the same formation, the same personnel grouping, and doing multiple
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 13: things out of that. to keep a defense on their toes.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 13: You know, that's, to me, good offensive scheme and good
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 13: offensive football. And so all these things add up to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 13: make it even more difficult for Archstead to make plays.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: And then when he has made plays this year, some
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 8: of that stuff has backfired.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 13: I mean, I go back to the Cam Coleman catch
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 13: where he beat his defender by five yards downfield. He dives, catches,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 13: and all of a sudden the ball gets tipped up
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 13: into being an interception. You know, Ryan Wingo dropped a
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 13: touchdown pass in that game. They were fortunate to come
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 13: back in that game. But all that stuff ends up
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 13: adding up to being thrown on Arch Manning's shoulders. So
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 13: has he played perfect this year?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 8: No quarterback has.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 13: You know, I don't know, maybe outside of maybe you
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 13: say Darian Mensah, who from start to finish had a.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 8: Really solid, consistent season.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: All of these.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: Quarterbacks have had their ups and downs. And this has
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: always been the case.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 13: I mean, the fact that we're making such a big
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 13: deal about it only speaks to, I think, A, what
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 13: his ceiling may be, but also the fact of what
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 13: the expectations were, not only for Arch, but also for Texas.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 13: And then it feels like it's more disappointing for Texas
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 13: as a whole than anything else. I'll leave you on
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 13: this on this topic. Last year, too, we'd kind of
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 13: written Arch off after the first half of the season. Well,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 13: we're halfway through now. And the problem was is everyone
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 13: stopped watching. And Arch played phenomenal the second half of
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 13: the season. So that's where we're at now. I'm not
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 13: throwing in the towel on Texas or on Arch Manning.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 13: They've got some things to improve on and fix, but
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 13: it's not just him. It's everyone who's a part of
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 13: this offense. They need to find their identity. They need
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 13: to hammer back down on the details. They need to
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 13: get better up front and also run the football and
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 13: take some of the pressure.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Off of them.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Listen, I didn't like the calls at the end of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: the game. I thought Notre Dame got cut off.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Homered twice.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: Be that as it may, they didn't play great. They
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: blew some red zone opportunities on third down. They did
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: not play Notre Dame football. I saw criticism yesterday or
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: the day before. People were saying, you know, they lose
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: a lot of close games to good teams, and they
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: beat up, because of their schedule, half a member of
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: a conference on a lot of average teams. And first
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: of all, everybody loses close games to good teams. Ryan,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: they does.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: They all do.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: I like where Notre Dame's at. But I do think
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: now with super conferences, SEC and Big Ten, nobody wants
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: to play these out-of-conference games.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to play Notre Dame.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 6: They're getting on the phone and people are like, I
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: got to play Texas, Oklahoma, and the SEC now.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing Notre Dame.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to South Bend in November. Forget it.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: So it's a weird spot. That's why I think 2014 playoffs,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: good for them. Where are you on Notre Dame? I
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: still think Notre Dame can play for the title.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I still do.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: They're good at key positions, corner, quarterback, coach. I think
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: winning in Pro Bowl is hard. BYU's got NIL money.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: They got NFL guys. I don't think we think of BYU.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: I watched BYU, Notre Dame, Brady. They look pretty even.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: They were both big. I don't think it's that punitive
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: of a loss, but because of their schedule, it is.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Where do you land today? Where are they going forward?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 13: Well, I definitely think they have the chance to still
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 13: win a national championship. They're that talented and that's their ceiling.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 13: The problem is there's no room for error. And we
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 13: saw that after last year dropping their first two games
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 13: of the season, running the table, but 10-2 wasn't good enough.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 13: And I think that's the concern here is it all
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 13: comes down to the Miami game. Assuming they win the
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 13: rest of their games, you know, they really need to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 13: be 11-1. They really need that win, I think, for
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 13: their strength of schedule and to prove to everyone out
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 13: there that they deserve to be a part of the playoff.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 13: I think if you lose that game or if you
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 13: were to drop a game to SMU or someone else
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 13: along the way, you then once again leave it up
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 13: to the college football playoff committee and you might find
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 13: yourself on the outside looking in.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: And so this past week's.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 13: Game, we can talk about the calls and officiating and
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 13: why there should be more of a push for a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 13: national officiating group instead of doing it by conference.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: I have no idea how.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 13: we've come to an agreement on an expanded 2014 playoff
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 13: and how we're going to play for a national championship
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 13: but we still have officials by conference it just it
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 13: doesn't make any sense to me we should bring it
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 13: all in-house all under one umbrella for replay everything else
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 13: so everyone's understanding how we're trying to implement whatever changes
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 13: it is whatever calls we're doing this year it's all
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 13: under the same roof that that to me would be a.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 8: Great step for all college football last.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 13: Week that what was disappointing was this is a team
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 13: that was a 10 point favorite on the road and
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 13: so i expectations for this team that in a big
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 13: game got off to a slow start they didn't look
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 13: good offensively cj car didn't play his best game he
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 13: he still showed me flashes of why i think he's
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 13: the best quarterback in college football because a couple throws
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 13: he made down the stretch that i mean there's no
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 13: one else who's going to make those throws as accurate.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: But he was off. He missed a few throws. He
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: has some mistakes along the game, but so did everyone.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 13: I mean, the coaching staff, so the play calling. You
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 13: can look at Chris Ash and his resistance to wanting
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 13: to play more man-to-man versus a team that.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 8: I think you'd match up with very well.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 13: And I understand you lost your best edge rusher to
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 13: start the game, and that can kind of be a
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 13: shock to the system.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: But that was a very winnable game.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 13: I mean, you had a botched punt, you had a
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 13: fake punt, which was an awful call in the backed-up territory,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 13: and you couldn't take advantage of it in the red zone.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 13: So Notre Dame should look nowhere else but in the
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 13: mirror and try to pick up the pieces, make the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 13: fixes they need to make, because they aren't capable of
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 13: winning at all. They have the advantage of getting home
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 13: field versus Miami, but you can't afford to lose it.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 13: I mean, you can make the case they're in the
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 13: playoff now. Every single week, they've got to win, and
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 13: they've got to be able to advance into the playoff.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: You know, the NIL is interesting. So I think it's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: hurt the depth of the Georges and Ohio States. A
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: prime example that Ohio State once won a natty with
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: Cardell Jones. Well, Cardell Jones would not be on their
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: roster anymore because somebody like Oregon State would go say,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: here's money.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: You don't have a great third quarterback. That's not at
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: least an experienced one.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: And so, you know, they've won titles with Craig Krenzel
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: and Cardell Jones. But the Cardell Jones guys that are
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: talented backups now, they want to start and they're going
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: to play and they're.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: Going to leave.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: And so to me, when you lose Julian San, my
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: take is they're not going to win. They're out of
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: the national championship. There's too many good quarterbacks. Notre Dame, Miami,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: there's too many good quarterbacks on good teams. I look
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: at Ohio State and I'm like, Brady, NIL, you got
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: to play a three-star freshman. I don't even think Ohio
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: State can win a natty now. I don't think it's possible.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 10: Do you?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 13: I think it's still possible. I mean, you referenced us
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 13: this season. They did it in 2014 with Urban Meyer.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 13: They didn't have to go quite as long into the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 13: season in order to do that. It was a much
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 13: shorter postseason for that team.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: To win it all.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 13: But look, they're going to have to hang their hat
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 13: on the running game. They have to get much more
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 13: physical on the offensive line. And defensively, they have to
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 13: start being more dominant on that side and getting more pressure,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 13: getting more tackles for loss and negative plays, which hasn't
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 13: really been them so far this season. So they're going
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 13: to have to lean on a lot of other peoples
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 13: outside of the quarterback position.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 8: And for all those people who aren't big Julian Sand fans,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: how are you feeling now if you're a Buckeyes fan?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 13: For a guy who completed his career over 70% of
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 13: his passes, it's like now you're really concerned about whether
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 13: or not you can even beat Michigan at the end
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 13: of the season, let alone try to win a national championship.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 13: So defensively, I'm still a believer in this team because
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 13: I think they've got a hell of a coaching staff.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 13: They have a ton of talent, the best player in
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 13: the country, and Jeremiah Smith. It just comes down to,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 13: can they put together a game plan that allows, whether
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 13: it's Luke Fahey or Tavian St. Clair or a combination
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 13: of both, or maybe you use Legend Bay, who did
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 13: use to play some quarterback during his days in high school.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 8: Maybe he comes in as a wildcat quarterback.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 13: Whatever the case is, putting together a game plan that
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 13: might not be what the identity of your offense has
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 13: been so far this year, But it places their strengths
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 13: and allows you to be successful. That's going to be
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 13: the formula moving forward. And they've got to figure out
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 13: what that's going to be over the course of the
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 13: next week or so during their bye before they play
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 13: a tough SC team. So I'm not counting them out
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 13: because history has shown us otherwise. But the Big Ten
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 13: now is wide open. And I think for the SEC,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 13: because you haven't won the national championship now in the
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 13: past four years, the door is open. You've got some
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 13: teams that are going to be in contention for it, obviously,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 13: despite some of the struggles we've talked about. with Texas
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 13: and Orange and whoever else, LSU and Sam Levin, the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 13: door's wide open now because Ohio State was the team
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 13: to beat in the Big Ten.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: You know, people forget John Wooden actually took a few
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: years to get UCLA rolling. We're all impatient. We want
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: you to be great. Ryan Day wins 88% of his games,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: and he's always under attack from Buckeye fans. I've told
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: USC fans this. Listen, if you want to, the NIL
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: means you have to go to the boosters and ask
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: for $ 35 million a year. They just spent $ 250 million
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: on facilities. You want to buy out Lincoln Riley? That's
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: $ 70 million. And the new guy is going to cost
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: you $ 12 million a year or $ 9 million a year.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: So NIL has actually helped coaches keep their jobs for
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: a lot of these schools because you can't just blow
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: them out. And my other thing is, I want your
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: opinion on Lincoln. If I just said, Lincoln Riley, write
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: a paragraph. Where are you today? Obviously, the defense remains
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: an enigma today. But they're just tremendous offensively, throwing the
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 6: ball in a throwing era. Where do you land on.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: His position and his space and his ascension right now?
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: Well, that's been kind of what he's been.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 13: He's a great offensive line. And I think that gets
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 13: you only so far as a head coach. You have
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 13: to be able to pair together with a solid defense.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 13: And how you go about constructing that is a separate conversation.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 13: But from his time taking over for Bob Stoops, who
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 13: really built the foundation of that program and kind of
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 13: just gave him the keys and let him run it,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 13: they obviously had success. You have guys who are winning
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 13: Heistons and making a college football playoff berth, but you're
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 13: never able to get to the pinnacle. And so then
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 13: you go to SC, and that was the expectation. I
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 13: think the tough thing for a guy like Wendigan Riley
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 13: is you've had good recruiting classes. You've had a Heisman
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 13: Trophy winner in Caleb Williams. You've had other talented players.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 8: Come through there. But it hasn't equated to the postseason success.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 13: Never winning a conference championship, never having a college football
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 13: playoff berth. And when you watch what Kurt Cignetti has done,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 13: where he takes an Indiana program that was arguably the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 13: worst ever in college football history and turns it around
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 13: in basically two years' time to win a national championship.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: You have to be.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 13: Scratching your head if you're an SC booster, if you're
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 13: an SC fan, going, why can't we do this? We're
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 13: in a recruiting hotbed. We're in an easy place to
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 13: get guys to come to. We supposedly have enough money
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 13: to do so. Why can't we do this? They just
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 13: did it in the Big Ten. And so, you know,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 13: there's obviously some difficulties for both those teams and the
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 13: challenge they have, but Kurt Cignetti has made it harder
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 13: for a lot of blue blood programs who aren't having
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 13: that quick turnaround like they thought they were going to,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 13: that are well-funded, where everyone's kind of looking at him saying, well,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 13: why can't you do what he's doing if you're such
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 13: a good coach? We're paying you all this money. And
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 13: that's a legitimate question. So, look, he's a great offensive line.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 13: No one's going to deny that. What they do this season, though,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 13: that's still all out there for them.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 8: They've got some big-time games ahead.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 13: I think at the end of the day, if they
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 13: are a 10-2 team with their schedule, depending on who
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 13: they beat, if it is Ohio State, maybe they don't
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 13: get quite as much credit for it. Maybe that UCLA win,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 13: all of a sudden, it would look a lot better
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 13: on the resume, given even their circumstance, even though they're
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 13: playing with a backup, too. You still look at a
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 13: couple of those teams and go, if they're able to
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 13: be one of those two at 10-2, they'll definitely be
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 13: in contention for the playoff. And if they win them out,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 13: obviously they're playing the Big Ten Championship. And that narrative
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 13: is changing completely for him.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: Finally, by the way, Indiana at Michigan on Fox. Brady Quinn,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: part of the big noon kickoff. That's a really interesting game.
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  Speaker 6: Michigan's secondary is pretty good. Indiana's got great ability to
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  Speaker 6: beat you down the field. That's a really interesting matchup
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  Speaker 6: for me. And Michigan's offense does look like it's more
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  Speaker 6: functional now. So the 2014 playoff, my argument is generally, Brady,
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  Speaker 6: that in life, if something, the quality is good, it
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  Speaker 6: could be a restaurant. It can move, you and your
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  Speaker 6: wife will still find it. It can expand and lose
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  Speaker 6: its charm, you and your wife will still go. College
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  Speaker 6: football's product is so damn good. Last week, Saturday, was
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  Speaker 6: so much better than NFL Sunday. The product's so good,
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  Speaker 6: we can expand, we can move, we can, it's just,
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  Speaker 6: it's gonna be okay at 24 teams. Or there's the
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  Speaker 6: traditionalist that says, you know, you don't love the romance
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  Speaker 6: of it, the charm of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fair argument. Maybe I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you land?
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  Speaker 13: I land on the inclusiveness of the expansion. It is
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  Speaker 13: obviously going to be a good thing. I mean, to
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  Speaker 13: your point, if more teams are making the college football playoff,
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  Speaker 13: it probably slows down the quick trigger to move on
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  Speaker 13: from coaches. You probably don't see as many players being
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  Speaker 13: as transient, although the Protect College Sports Act is going
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  Speaker 13: to limit that a little bit to reducing the amount
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  Speaker 13: of times players can transfer before they graduate. There's some
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  Speaker 13: caveats to saying that, but I think the hardest transition
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  Speaker 13: for all of us is that you can lose a
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  Speaker 13: couple of games now and still feel like your team
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  Speaker 13: has a shot. And that didn't used to be the
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  Speaker 13: case in college football. That's where it really differentiated itself
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  Speaker 13: from the NFL. That was one of the hardest things
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  Speaker 13: transitioning to the NFL as a college football player when
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  Speaker 13: you win a lot of games. You're sitting there saying
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  Speaker 13: to yourself, I can't afford to lose five, six games.
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  Speaker 13: That's an awful season in college. Well, in the NFL,
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  Speaker 13: you're probably a playoff team. You're probably winning your division So,
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  Speaker 13: you know, it's changing the thinking, I think, of how
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  Speaker 13: a lot of fans and even some of the coaches
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  Speaker 13: and players feel about it. And their response to losses,
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  Speaker 13: knowing that in a 2014 playoff, you're going to have
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  Speaker 13: two lost teams, you're going to have three lost teams
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  Speaker 13: who are going to be a part of it. And
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  Speaker 13: that just hasn't been the nature of college football. It's
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  Speaker 13: traditionally been a regular season sport where it comes down
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  Speaker 13: to a team that's undefeated or a team with one loss.
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  Speaker 13: And based on how that whole game goes, that was
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  Speaker 13: how they're going to be voted or that was what
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  Speaker 13: it was going to look like. well we've we've strayed
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  Speaker 13: away from wanting to make it a regular season sport
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  Speaker 13: and it's becoming a postseason sport so you know there's
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  Speaker 13: some different feelings i have about that in general you
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  Speaker 13: know but at the end of the day if this
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  Speaker 13: is the direction that we're going i think it will
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  Speaker 13: make the sport better having more teams involved in a
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  Speaker 13: world of parity right now where you just said it
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  Speaker 13: last week we had five teams in the top seven
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  Speaker 13: lose like who's that great team right now in college
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  Speaker 13: football i I really don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe it's Miami, but that was a controversial ending to
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 8: that game.
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  Speaker 13: You're telling me Florida State shouldn't have had that touchdown
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  Speaker 13: for Deuce Robinson and had a chance for a two-point
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  Speaker 13: to extend that game?
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  Speaker 3: There's just so much.
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  Speaker 13: Parity out there. I think it's going to make for
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  Speaker 13: a great 2014 playoff when we get there.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff from Brady Quinn there from Colin Cowherd's program
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  Speaker 1: earlier today. We'll hear from a couple of Longhorns coming
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  Speaker 1: up on 13 Under the Zone. On a Wednesday, Yacht
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  Speaker 1: Rock Wednesday here, showering the people here. We like to
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  Speaker 1: shower you with lots of sound from various and sundry people.
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  Speaker 1: Like Justin Cryer, the Longhorns linebacker, was asked if the
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  Speaker 1: frustration the team has been feeling of late comes from
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  Speaker 1: not being able to execute what they've done very well
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  Speaker 1: on the practice field. Yeah, for the most part.
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  Speaker 11: Like i'll like again i said it in the past
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  Speaker 11: before i like players that are like 50 50 one-on-one
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  Speaker 11: balls you get beat like i'm not going to sit
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  Speaker 11: here and and lose my mind off that i want
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  Speaker 11: to lose my top off that but there were certain
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  Speaker 11: plays in the game where i'm i got so frustrated
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  Speaker 11: because i'm like but we've practiced this not even 24
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  Speaker 11: hours ago right so for us to go out there
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  Speaker 11: and mess it up it's like man like we we
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  Speaker 11: have to just have better focus in the moment right
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  Speaker 11: and i get it right the game's going on adrenaline's
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  Speaker 11: rushing right but like when they may not do the
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  Speaker 11: same thing that you've practiced, right? But this is where
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: you apply your rules at, right? This is, you can't
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  Speaker 11: practice for everything because much of the coaching before I
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 11: was born, since the dinosaurs were alive, but I can't
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 11: sit here and, and he can't predict everything that's going
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  Speaker 11: to happen. Like they won't be perfect. And he, I
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 11: know he knows the OC, but the OC knows that
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: he knows him too. So he's going to give them different,
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  Speaker 11: different looks.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 11: So we have to apply that training that he's given
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  Speaker 11: us to apply to the situation that we're, that we're having.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 11: So, Whether we're in the low red, we have to
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 11: play better low red defense. That was probably my biggest
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  Speaker 11: takeaway too. There's things that we've practiced throughout the week
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  Speaker 11: and said this is going to come. And speaking from
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  Speaker 11: a defense perspective, obviously, we have to do a better
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  Speaker 11: job of getting that done. Because I can count countless
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  Speaker 11: plays up there that we practiced and we've gone over
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  Speaker 11: and we did not do a good job. So again,
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  Speaker 11: taking ownership of that. They've put us in the best
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 11: position to go out.
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  Speaker 1: There and do it.
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  Speaker 11: As players, we have to do a better job. And
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  Speaker 11: there's no other way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: And then one more from Hiro Kanu. We heard him
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  Speaker 1: talking about Trinidad Chambliss earlier in the program, but now
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  Speaker 1: the question comes to how do you slow the man down?
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  Speaker 12: Cleaning up our assignments, making sure we have the right leverage,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 12: not missing tackles. Because once you make those tackles, they're
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 12: gonna be behind the sticks. And that's gonna make it
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 12: a lot harder for the offensive coordinator plays and for
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  Speaker 12: him to make plays as well. You gotta make sure
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 12: his defensive line to contain him in the pocket. to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 12: at least make him one-dimensional, just playing quarterback, not using
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 12: his legs.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Sound words right there. We'll see how it turns out
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. We'll be back to wrap up today's edition
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  Speaker 1: of the program on 13 Under the Zone.