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I'll Go First One Day · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This week on your Gabble gabble. If you're in a
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  Speaker 2: funeral home plan in your grandma's funeral and you fight
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  Speaker 2: your aunts, do you have to pay for the damages?
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  Speaker 2: Judge Million tells us.
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  Speaker 3: And if you find out that your lover's wife isn't black,
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  Speaker 3: can you sue them? Judge Ross Doll's real fetal say
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  Speaker 3: justice this, Come on, stand up, get up.
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  Speaker 2: On your feet. Everybody, sit down, stand up, sit stand
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  Speaker 2: anybody welcome to yo gab gavel. I would see the
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  Speaker 2: answer to yours is no. If you find out someone
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  Speaker 2: is not black or is black, can you get money
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  Speaker 2: from that? No? I think should be the unequivocal answer there, right, Brand,
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  Speaker 2: Am I wrong here? But I don't know, you don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Just gonna tell us, man, you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: brand Dan and we watched TV courtroom shows for fun
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  Speaker 4: and then we tell you about them. I watched one
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  Speaker 4: Dan's gonna try to guess the verdict, and then Dan's
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  Speaker 4: gonna do the exact same thing to me, and I
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  Speaker 4: will guess the verdict and you at home can play along.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to figure out.
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  Speaker 4: How these TV court judges are gonna rule in these cases.
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  Speaker 4: Two good ones today, two good ones today. It's like it,
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  Speaker 4: can I go first?
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  Speaker 1: Sure you want to? I don't care, I'll go. I'll
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  Speaker 1: go first. What are you ready for? Judge?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Sure man?
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  Speaker 4: Kelsey Hummingway is humming humming Way positive. Kelsey Hummingway is
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  Speaker 4: suing Brandon and Lisa Styles for six hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 4: two dollars and seventy five cents for a hotel room.
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  Speaker 2: You ready, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is important to say. I don't typically
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  Speaker 1: do this.
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  Speaker 4: Kelsey is a black woman, Brandon is a black male.
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  Speaker 1: Lisa is not black, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Kelsey met Brandon on what she calls a safe dating
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  Speaker 4: site called Field. Apparently this is for polyamorous couples, people
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  Speaker 4: that are down to clown. That's exactly right. This is
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  Speaker 4: not the first time she's used this site. She's very
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  Speaker 4: familiar with it.
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  Speaker 1: She likes it. This is what she's into.
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  Speaker 4: Brandon and Lisa have been married for two years and
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  Speaker 4: they are both on the site of separate accounts, so
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  Speaker 4: they're both okay with each other playing the field. Kelsey
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  Speaker 4: and Brandon started talking and he says that if things
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  Speaker 4: go well between them, he will bring his wife into
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  Speaker 4: the mix. Okay, well, okay, Kelsey and brandonating this, Kelsey,
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  Speaker 4: I do this to myself, Kelsey and Brandon.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't pronounce it.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine I'm I'm in the clear here, howming way and all?
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  Speaker 4: Uh So, Kelsey and Brandon start meeting up twice a
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  Speaker 4: week for three months.
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Lisa says that she knew about these meetups and was
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  Speaker 4: all about it. She only heard good things about Kelsey.
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  Speaker 4: Kelsey says that, uh, I didn't know much about Lisa.
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  Speaker 4: It's good to know that Bradon was talking to you
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  Speaker 4: about me, because I know much about you. And so
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  Speaker 4: when I met her, it was a bit of a
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  Speaker 4: surprise that she was not black. Lisa is half white,
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  Speaker 4: half Hispanic. Kelsey was not down with that. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: she always wears a necklace which has like a I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, like a medallion on it, and Ross says,
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  Speaker 4: so this is like the key of key.
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  Speaker 1: Of life symbol.
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  Speaker 4: And apparently people wear this necklace so that that that
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  Speaker 4: you know when you see it that they are only
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  Speaker 4: going to date inside of their race.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. There's a symbol, a universal symbol for only
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  Speaker 2: dating inside your race.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I was news to me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if this I don't know if this
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  Speaker 4: is only uh like for like Kelsey and the black community,
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  Speaker 4: if this is like a symbol that's important to them,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. We didn't get into the specifics of
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  Speaker 4: the symbol, but apparently there's a necklace with a symbol
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  Speaker 4: on it, and you know it if you know it.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 4: So Ross asked Brandon if he was aware of this
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  Speaker 4: and her beliefs and only dating with inside her own race,
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  Speaker 4: and he says, with a smirk, yes, I did so.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: He says, he assumed that if she's in the me,
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  Speaker 4: she'd also be in the my wife, regardless of whether
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  Speaker 4: she's black, even.
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  Speaker 1: Though know that.
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  Speaker 2: Judge Ross asked Kelsey.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, like why why why is?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Why do you why are you only comfortable uh dating
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  Speaker 4: black people? And she says, I'm not comfortable sharing my
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  Speaker 4: body with anybody outside of my own race, and I
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  Speaker 4: had many conversations about that with Brandon. Brandon says they
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  Speaker 4: did have these conversations, but just didn't think that she'd
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  Speaker 4: have a problem with my wife. If my wife's cool
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  Speaker 4: with me, she should be cool with you. Is basically
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  Speaker 4: his understanding. Lisa speaks up and says, I just want
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  Speaker 4: it known that I do I do support black people,
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  Speaker 4: to which Ross says, yeah, we see that, which is great,
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  Speaker 4: great line, Judge Ross. Lisa says when Kelsey saw her,
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  Speaker 4: she freaked out and called her a snow bunny, something
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  Speaker 4: that she found to be very offensive. Kelsey says, this
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  Speaker 4: is true, but I was upset because I had had
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  Speaker 4: many conversations with Brandon about not marrying outside of my race,
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  Speaker 4: and Brandon says, Kelsey did say that. I never I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know that we were talking about marriage here. I
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  Speaker 4: just I didn't know that extended to just having Yep,
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  Speaker 4: if you will, she's not getting married to us, she's
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  Speaker 4: just having a relationship with us. So Kelsey met them
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  Speaker 4: at the airport to head to Hawaii. That's where they
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  Speaker 4: were gonna go. They're gonna go to Hawaii for a
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  Speaker 4: trip together. They meet the airport and that's when she
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  Speaker 4: freaked out. Brandon is like, she could have still come
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  Speaker 4: and had sex just with me, and Lisa is like, Yep,
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  Speaker 4: she could have come and she could have had sex
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  Speaker 4: with Brandon. Judge Ross cannot contain his laughter at that
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  Speaker 4: while Lisa says that she was excited to meet Kelsey
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  Speaker 4: and have a great trip, and uh, Brandon and Lisa
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  Speaker 4: still ended up going and having a great time. So
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  Speaker 4: the money that Kelsey spent, they like went splitsy go
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  Speaker 4: Daisy's on the hotel And the money Kelsey's asking for
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  Speaker 4: is for her portion of the hotel room because it
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  Speaker 4: was past the refund time. Okay, something that she could do,
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  Speaker 4: but she does have proof of payment.
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  Speaker 2: He's like two thousand bucks. She wants a third of
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  Speaker 2: it back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it, And so uh gets
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  Speaker 4: a She shows the proof of payment that she spent
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  Speaker 4: and a text message that she sent that she shows
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  Speaker 4: that she sent to Brandon after the fact asking for
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  Speaker 4: the money back. She calls him a snake. He texts
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  Speaker 4: back saying that he didn't know that she would be
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  Speaker 4: uncomfortable with his wife. Thought that that was the whole plan.
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  Speaker 4: Jud Ross, this is tough.
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  Speaker 2: If she was never told that she couldn't come on
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  Speaker 2: the trip, then I guess in theory she doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: any money. But if she felt unwanted, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: don't I don't know. I'm gonna say no money, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel super confident about it. Brand Uh, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what Judge Ross would have done had
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  Speaker 4: she not presented this text message, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: Part of her evidence is a text message that Judge
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  Speaker 4: Ross says proves that he wasn't aware that she would
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  Speaker 4: be uncomfortable with it far before today. This isn't a
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  Speaker 4: story that he made up for the courtroom. It's a
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  Speaker 4: story that he apparently had right away. I wasn't aware
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  Speaker 4: that you would be uncomfortable with her being in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: And so since he.
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  Speaker 4: Is on the record having that understanding, justice has to fall.
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  Speaker 4: The gable has to fall in favor of the defendant.
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  Speaker 4: His text response shows that he it is in line
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  Speaker 4: with what he has said here today. And so you
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  Speaker 4: should have asked more questions, more questions before deciding to
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  Speaker 4: go to a trip.
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  Speaker 1: With a couple.
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  Speaker 4: You should, even though you think that you are making
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  Speaker 4: it clear by sharing your beliefs and wearing the necklace,
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  Speaker 4: that might not be clear to someone else. Boys an
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  Speaker 4: important lesson in polyaminine polyamorous it's important to be clear
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  Speaker 4: upfront with your expectations and what you're comfortable with.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: No one is more understanding and learned about this topic
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  Speaker 4: than your rant. That's right, Dear God, well read.
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  Speaker 2: Hey brand, Let's go over to the people's court show.
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  Speaker 2: But while we head over to the people's court, I
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  Speaker 2: want you to imagine that it's personal injury court, because
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  Speaker 2: this feels like personal injury court. But now we get
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  Speaker 2: judgment on instead of judge Gino. That's what it feels like.
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  Speaker 2: Freaking Finally, this case has all of the trappings, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: of a personal injury court case.
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  Speaker 1: And not the big what it doesn't have the big money.
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  Speaker 2: It does not have the big money in the geno sense,
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  Speaker 2: but it's bigger than a typical all ten came backs.
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  Speaker 2: It is seventy five hundred and then a five thousand
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  Speaker 2: counter okakay. Alicia Smith is suing her niece seventy five
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  Speaker 2: for seventy five hundred bucks in medical expenses, pain and suffering.
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  Speaker 2: Danielle Smith, her niece, is suing counter suiting her, suing
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  Speaker 2: her for five thousand dollars in pain and suffering, which
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  Speaker 2: is the max? Alicia says, your honor. We were planning
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  Speaker 2: a funeral for my mom and her grandmother. We were
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  Speaker 2: at the funeral home. My mom died of pancreas cancer,
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  Speaker 2: and we were at the funeral home with the folks
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  Speaker 2: at the funeral home and we were planning the funeral.
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  Speaker 1: You get herd at a funeral home.
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  Speaker 2: So Alicia then gets to go up to the big board,
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  Speaker 2: not the plasma, not the plasa, A big big board,
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  Speaker 2: four at the tables, different court, a table with chairs
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  Speaker 2: and where everybody was sitting. So Alicia basically goes through
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, it's a meeting room where you're
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  Speaker 2: planning in a funeral.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the plan.
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  Speaker 2: So Alicia has like a brother, a sister, and a
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  Speaker 2: sister in law there and then one one of the grandkids.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that. There's a good mix all the siblings
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  Speaker 2: and then two grandkids. I think, uh oh no, no,
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  Speaker 2: all the siblings, a sister in law and a grandkids.
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  Speaker 2: That's who's there. Alica shows where everybody's sitting and she's
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  Speaker 2: like and when we sat down, I recognized Danielle's attitude immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Oh million, says why. Alicia says, the night before she
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  Speaker 2: has custody of her sister and my niece, my other
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  Speaker 2: niece who is younger than Danielle. So Danielle is is
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  Speaker 2: the legal guardian of her younger sister. The other niece
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  Speaker 2: asked to stay with me. I told her that was fine.
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  Speaker 2: Had no clue that Danielle would be upset about that,
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  Speaker 2: but she was. Okay. Million's like, so basically you took
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  Speaker 2: her child from her, and she was like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: kind of. She's why do you have custody of your sister?
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  Speaker 2: Danielle says, my mother had drugs in her system during delivery.
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  Speaker 2: My sister's now fourteen. And Million's like, why do you
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  Speaker 2: still have custody of her? That should be a temporary thing,
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  Speaker 2: and she goes, well, I got her when she was
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  Speaker 2: three out of foster care, took her straight.
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  Speaker 1: How old was she when she got custody.
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  Speaker 2: I think very young, like seventeen or eighteen. And then
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  Speaker 2: basically mom never got clean. Serious drug problem not in
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  Speaker 2: the picture. Okay, Okay, it's gonna get funny from here,
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  Speaker 2: I promise.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So just to be clear, she has custody of her sister,
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  Speaker 4: that's right, and that sister for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted to stay with Auntie.
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  Speaker 4: We wanted to stay with Auntieth for the night, and
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  Speaker 4: that made her mask That's right, okay, And now they
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  Speaker 4: show up, yes to the play.
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  Speaker 2: They're the funeral home. So she's like, I get to
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  Speaker 2: the funeral home, Alicia does the daughter and says, the
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  Speaker 2: lady the funeral home handed me three different bills, handed
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  Speaker 2: me one for seven some thousand dollars, one for nine
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  Speaker 2: hundred something for the pastor, and one for three thousand
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  Speaker 2: and something for other fees. Now, my mom had a
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  Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars policy, and I knew I couldn't afford
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  Speaker 2: any more of this, and I knew I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the money. And so this lady at the funeral home
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  Speaker 2: is trying to get me to sign these papers that
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand. And since I didn't understand it, and
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  Speaker 2: I knew that I didn't have the money past ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, I said that I was not going to
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  Speaker 2: sign these right now because I'm not putting my name
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  Speaker 2: on anything that I could be held accountable for, especially
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  Speaker 2: if I don't have the funds. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, So I said, what is so what are you
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  Speaker 4: doing a situation like that? Because I know it's a
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  Speaker 4: great question. I think death is a tricky business. It's
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  Speaker 4: a tricky business, and it shouldn't be a business, but
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  Speaker 4: it is. But yeah, so she said so before I
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  Speaker 4: was going to leave.
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  Speaker 2: And then I said, I'll sign the one for seven thousand,
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  Speaker 2: which is the process the body cremate it. The policy
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  Speaker 2: I knew would cover that. I'm not going to sign
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  Speaker 2: the other two. So I get up to the table
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  Speaker 2: and said, I wasn't signing anything else but the big one.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm signing. Danielle, her my mom's granddaughter and
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  Speaker 2: my niece, says, give me the damn papers. I'll sign them.
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  Speaker 2: And I looked at her and I said, this is
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  Speaker 2: for children only of the disease. You're not even supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Danielle said something. I don't know exactly what she said,
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  Speaker 2: but then she got up out of her chair and
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  Speaker 2: she threw a punch and it landed right here in
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  Speaker 2: my head. While Alicia's talking, Danielle is smiling.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, she loves it.
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  Speaker 2: She loves it, she said. I went to her and
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  Speaker 2: I grabbed her. She hit me by the arm. I
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  Speaker 2: tried to remove my arm. She bit my fingers, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: and grabbed my hair, which is why I have no
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  Speaker 2: hair right here to this day. She ripped it out
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  Speaker 2: of my skull. And then my brother came and finally
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  Speaker 2: split us up. But why is she there? If she's not,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get there or Million says, you have any witnesses?
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  Speaker 2: She says no. She's like, all right, Danielle, let's hear
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  Speaker 2: from you. Danielle says, all right. She goes to the board.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, here we go, there was another grand daughter.
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  Speaker 2: I was wrong. It wasn't an in law, it was
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  Speaker 2: another granddaughter in the room. She goes, there was another
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  Speaker 2: granddaughter in the room as well. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be clear like this, I'm not supposed to be there.
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  Speaker 2: The other granddaughter was there too. She said. What happened
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  Speaker 2: was there was a disagreement over whether we should bury
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  Speaker 2: her or cremate her. And now my grandma have four kids,
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to agree on this together. And I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to tell Alicia to stop making a scene. You can't
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  Speaker 2: make this decision by yourself. All four siblings get to
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  Speaker 2: agree on this, and Million goes, what do you think
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  Speaker 2: your grandmother would think watching this from up above the funeral?
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  Speaker 2: And Daniel's like, oh, she'd be rolling over in a grave.
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  Speaker 2: And she is rolling over in a grave, because she's
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  Speaker 2: still bothering me. Million's like, what do you mean? She goes,
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  Speaker 2: her spirit's in my house. My grandma's spirit is inside
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  Speaker 2: my house. I'll come home. My lights are on. I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to move because her spirit is actively bothering me.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, we're supposed to hang.
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  Speaker 2: Million's like, did you get along with her? And she goes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but what we're doing to her was wrong, and Alicia
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  Speaker 2: said she and Alicia said she wasn't going to sign
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  Speaker 2: the papers, and I said, I'll sign the papers. And
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  Speaker 2: I was walking to the table to get the to
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  Speaker 2: sign the papers, and I don't have money to sign it,
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  Speaker 2: but I would have done anything to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: it got paid eventually because it was the right thing
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 4: So, just to be clear, there though some important information.
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  Speaker 4: She was a believed that what they were agreeing to
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  Speaker 4: was wrong. Alicia did, yes, okay, Danielle believes, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: getting ahead a little bit. Danielle believes that Alicia's trying
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  Speaker 4: to pocket the money. She believes that that policy is
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  Speaker 4: paid out and she doesn't want to spend the money.
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  Speaker 2: That's what she believes. Interesting, So Danielle says, as I
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  Speaker 2: go to sign these Alicia charges toward me. She says,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who hit first, but she grabbed me
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  Speaker 2: and tried to take me down. Then, Danielle says this,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to bite her arm. I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to bite her booby, because you know, women's boobies are
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  Speaker 2: the most sensitive spot. And then she let go of
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  Speaker 2: me immediately, but her arm got in the way, so
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  Speaker 2: I bit her arm. That was the strategy of Danielle.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to bite my aunt's booby. That's what
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  Speaker 2: happens sometimes in the heat of a battle. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you go for booby and you get armed, go for booby,
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  Speaker 2: you get on you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I know what you can do.
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  Speaker 2: So Danielle says, once I did that, my uncle jumped
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  Speaker 2: in and he broke up the fight. Million says who
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  Speaker 2: hit first. Daniel says, I don't know, but she grabbed
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  Speaker 2: me first. Million goes, if you guys fought previously. Danielle goes, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all the time. Our family fights all the time. And
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  Speaker 2: she you know, she grabbed me floor. That's why I
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  Speaker 2: bit her arm. And she said, and then my uncle
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: tried to get me off of her, and I grabbed
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: a pin and started stabbing my uncle in the leg
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: with the pin. Why because I was telling him to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: get off of me. I was fighting my aunt. Million's like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: he's trying to stop a fight in a funeral home.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: This guy's a hero.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Also, don't like give up that information? Willing?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, weird that you would say. Then Million said, that's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: why her spirits bothered you. You're trying to fight people
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: in a funeral right there. M And she goes, so
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you think that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: You're gat your grandma wouldn't be haunting you if you're
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: doing the right thing, right, That's what I'm getting at.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: She thinks that she said, we're doing the right thing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Why would grandma be haunting you?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So Million says, Danielle, you think that your aunt was
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: trying to keep the money, And daniel goes, of course,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: that's what the funeral home will tell you as well.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: They were trying to do this for the policy. She
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: was trying to keep the money. Million Uh asked if
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: she has any witnesses. She goes, I have two statements,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: one from Alicia's sister, so one of her aunts is
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: actually giving a statement for the niece. And I have
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: a statement from the other granddaughter. She brings two affidavits
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to court. Milion reads them and both basically it says
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: something to the effect of Alicia threw the chair back
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and escalated things and basically started the fight right. She said, Alicia,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you're suing for what are your medical damages? Her cartilage
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in her wrist, She had to have surgery on her hand.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And then Million said, did you guys attend the funeral?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Danielle said, yeah, with no issues. She apologized to me.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I apologized to her when we got over it. I'm
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: not the first one. She did the same thing to
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: her daughter and to my sister. This is not something
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: new for Alicia. She does this on a regular basis.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Fighting.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She asked for medical records, and then she asked
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Alicia why she didn't bring any witnesses in her favor.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Alicia says, your honor. Between me and my brother and sisters,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: they all thought I was the favorite. They all have
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: something against me. I have a fracture here of the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: records to prove that. And mill Yon says, what's your counterclaim?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Danielle says, my counterclaim is for five thousand dollars pain
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and suffering. She took a picture, a baby picture of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: me that she had. She put it on Facebook and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: wrote the following, I was there when you were only
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: a confused child, and now this little baby is supposed
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to be my niece, where I sacrificed a lot of
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: time to make sure she was nurtured and loved. She's
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the cause of my left finger. Today, all I can
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: say is wow. So Alicia's take it was gonna be
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: puts it up and basically it's like, I can't believe
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: my niece did this to me. Yeah, So Danielle is
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: suing for five thousand dollars for paying and suffering because
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of that post. Alicia is suing Danielle for her seventy
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars of injuries past and present.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Did she have the medical she did, does have the
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: medical records, the bills.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: She has the bills and the medical records. You know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the thing that she read to roll, she's ready to roll.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: The thing that's tricky about this is it makes sense
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: to me that you would say, okay, I have my
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: mom had a ten thousand dollars policy and I can't
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: spend more than that. So I will then look at
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: what the bills are and say I can pay this one,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I can pay this one, which is like the burial,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the big one, like what are we going to do
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: with the body? And then and that's what I'm going
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: and I'm not going to take on any any debt.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: What the defendant seems to be stating is that is
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: she claiming that the total that she's claiming was owed
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: is not correct.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: We don't get super specific, but the way said that,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the way that I understand it is is that Danielle
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: believes that Alisha was trying to pocket three ish thousand dollars.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That's the way that I understand it is that but
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: these all needed to be done. Yes that they added
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: up to over ten thousand dollars, but not much some
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: over ten thousand dollars, probably maybe a thousand more. And
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Alisha signed the Big Dog and then she tried to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: walk and pocket the rest of that money. Per Danielle,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Alisha is saying, I signed the Big Dog and the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: other two I couldn't afford, so I needed to wait.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: And we don't there's disagreement over who punished first.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It was a squabble. I'm throwing out the countersuit for the.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Easy for that, I think that's easy easy. I think
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: that this would have been u uh. I think she's
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: gonna get the money. I think she can prove she's
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: proven that these injuries were as of a result of
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: her niece. Her niece did not countersue her for for
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: injuries injuries. She kind of sad for something else. I
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: think if you come with injuries and bills, then we
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: can kind of split it down the middle or whatever.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Hey, she injured me, I want money. I think she's
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: gonna get the money.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: She's not gonna get a dime brand uh, basically million,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: says your niece brought two affidavits to the courtroom that
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: says that you instigated and started this fight. I forgot
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: about the witnesses, and you brought me no witnesses that
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: say that she instigated and started the fight. Based upon that,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I have to rule that you started this fight and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: means you don't get any money for your your injuries.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: That's tough though, Like if if, if what she says
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: is true about her sibling believing that she was the face,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: it's a tough spot. Then of course they would take
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: like but she didn't have any witnesses. I mean, this
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: is familial uh strife, and that's always tricky, always tricky,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: It's always so tricky.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's a fine.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a fair ruling considering all involved. Yes,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you think she was pocketing the money. I think she
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: probably wanted to keep some of the money. I think,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't know for sure. That's
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: all I got. That's all I can tell you.
• 23:28
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